WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.240 Good morning and welcome to the regularly scheduled meeting of the Public Utilities 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:14.440 Board. It is 9 a.m. on December 9th, 2024, and we will open our meeting with any presentations 00:00:14.440 --> 00:00:21.960 from the public. I don't think we have any presentations today. Moving on to the consent 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:32.760 agenda, items A, D, E, and F have been pulled for questions, so I'll consider a motion for 00:00:32.760 --> 00:00:46.260 items B, C, and G. So moved. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion 00:00:46.260 --> 00:00:59.120 passes. Now, item A. Good morning, everyone. Chris Carroll. I'm the Water Utilities Treatment 00:00:59.120 --> 00:01:04.560 Division Manager for the City of Denton, and I'm here to talk about the 25% contract amendment 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:28.600 to the chemicals that we procure from vendors. So the purpose of this request, two things. 00:01:28.600 --> 00:01:36.600 We've got extreme chemical cost increases from the vendors, and two, we've got significant 00:01:36.600 --> 00:01:42.880 demand since 2021 when this contract went into place. Production was approximately six 00:01:42.880 --> 00:01:50.560 billion gallons in 2021 total for the year. We are now over eight billion gallons a year. 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:58.760 And as you can see, we've got the current year in blue. It's averaging five to 10 MGD 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:04.680 over the last five-year average, which that's where we come up with that number. Chemical 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:10.000 usage, FARIC is our primary coagulant. Due to the increased demand, you can see now we're 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:14.100 from four million gallons up to almost five million gallons per year, and this is over 00:02:14.100 --> 00:02:17.920 a five-year period. I'm sorry, could you slow down? What was that again you were pointing 00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:22.720 at? This one right here, this is the FARIC, the usage right here, production chemical 00:02:22.720 --> 00:02:28.880 usage. FARIC sulfate. Yes, correct. Okay. Yeah, and that's our primary coagulant. And 00:02:28.880 --> 00:02:33.920 then this is over here is where we were talking about the treatment chemical price increases. 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:40.320 Our most significant one was sodium hypochlorite, which is used for disinfection. So we went 00:02:40.320 --> 00:02:48.200 from like 12 cents a gallon all the way up to we're almost at $2 a gallon now. Yeah. 00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:55.600 Can you tell us what's driving that price increase? It's manufacturing. The supply chain, 00:02:55.600 --> 00:02:59.680 I think we're all aware of the issues that they've had. So a lot of these chemicals require 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:04.840 multiple products to create. And that's what we've been told is supply and then the availability 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.880 of the chemicals to create them. I mean, that's a very significant increase, much greater 00:03:09.880 --> 00:03:15.240 than the rate of inflation. I completely agree with you. Currency exchange. Yes. I'm trying 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:19.320 to wrap my head around that. Yes, I think we all were when we saw this and it definitely 00:03:19.320 --> 00:03:26.120 wasn't planned, especially on the sodium hypochlorite. Question? Yes. So it looked like it's not a 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:30.280 gradual thing. Is this like they just fell off the cliff as far as the price is going 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.200 up? Is that? Yeah. And what's interesting, it seems to have leveled off. Could you go 00:03:35.200 --> 00:03:52.400 back to that? Sure. Let me see. This one right here. A reverse cliff. Yes. A nice hill. And 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:59.800 no indication at all. Like I said, it was the quarter three, 2022. We're all aware of 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:05.340 the supply chain. I know stuff that I've personally purchased, it's three times, four times as 00:04:05.340 --> 00:04:10.960 much as it used to pay. And that was the reason that we were given. That's fine. Okay. Yeah, 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:17.760 appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Just an idea of what the vendors that are included in this 00:04:17.760 --> 00:04:22.960 chemical contract, some of them can supply the same thing. We use that for redundancy. 00:04:22.960 --> 00:04:27.720 If one was to run out, I mean, these chemicals are required to treat the water the way we 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:37.520 do. So usage forecasting, this production five year annual total on chemicals, it's 00:04:37.520 --> 00:04:41.640 a little deceiving because when we get into 24, we haven't finished that year out. So 00:04:41.640 --> 00:04:47.920 the graph's a little skewed, but it's, it's leveled off at least for now. We anticipate 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.340 though, that it's, it's going to continue that rise just because of the demand in the 00:04:53.340 --> 00:05:01.600 system. I was going to ask a question about that, increase demand. It seems like the demand 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:07.520 has outstripped the growth in population or am I missing something? Has the, has the population 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:12.760 increased that, that many fold in just this few years? Well, from what I understand Denton 00:05:12.760 --> 00:05:19.120 is on an 8% growth. I'm not sure about the industry that's here. Industrial usage can 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:24.800 increase that as well. I know there's several large developments, so I would anticipate 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:29.280 that we're going to see that gradual increase as we move through the year. And we've got 00:05:29.280 --> 00:05:34.760 the expansions at Ray Roberts planned to take it all the way up to 50 MGD. We have the expansion 00:05:34.760 --> 00:05:39.480 at Pecan Creek, which is going to take us to 26 and eventually 30, and then some projects 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:43.920 in Clear Creek and Hickory Creek as well. And so those chemicals, we're going to need 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:48.480 those chemicals at those sites too. So staff will be looking at that and what that's going 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:56.120 to take to budget for that. Okay. But again, it does seem that the demand has outstripped 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:01.120 the growth in population. So has something changed in the way we're treating the water? 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.720 Are we required to use more chemicals or achieve a higher level of quality or something along 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:12.320 those lines? Well, we do. We, right now we are, we participate in the total optimization 00:06:12.320 --> 00:06:18.280 program from TCEQ. That requires us to meet certain turbidity standards. And we also have 00:06:18.280 --> 00:06:23.520 achieved the Director's Award for the partnership, AWWA Partnership for Safe Drinking Water, 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:29.480 which requires we have better raw water treatment all the way through the filters and then out 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:34.160 to the system as well. So we do strive to have the best water, which I think we all 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:41.060 know that we're second best, at least last year. So we do strive to have a better quality 00:06:41.060 --> 00:06:43.880 water than what's demanded by regular water quality standards. 00:06:43.880 --> 00:06:48.640 Okay. So we have an increase in population and an increase in quality of our water. 00:06:48.640 --> 00:06:51.960 That's correct. Okay. Those are good things to know. Thank you. 00:06:51.960 --> 00:06:57.120 Yes. So the adjustment that we're asking for is a little over, I think it's 3.3 million. 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:04.720 We're going from a not to exceed from 13 to 42 to 16.5. That will get us through the end 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.020 of this fiscal year. Just checked with staff, we're at probably 99% of the contract spend 00:07:10.020 --> 00:07:16.160 so far. The anticipation is after the first of the year, we're going to initiate drafting 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:21.080 a new contract with these forecasting methods put into place so we're not having to come 00:07:21.080 --> 00:07:30.160 back and do these amendments. So in conclusion, staff's evaluated the usage, 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:36.400 the demand, the costs, and we're looking for a request for approval for this amendment 00:07:36.400 --> 00:07:45.840 to the contract. Any questions? When we go to renegotiate, so we're going 00:07:45.840 --> 00:07:51.080 to renegotiate the whole contract come the first year and are we going to just redo it 00:07:51.080 --> 00:07:56.840 as five on top of the 2026 maturity or do we do it five from next year because the last 00:07:56.840 --> 00:08:02.760 one was five years? Yeah. I'd have to talk to Lori about the contract. 00:08:02.760 --> 00:08:06.560 Was it five year with two extensions or was it three with two? 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.680 Three with two. Okay. So it's three with two. That's something 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:16.600 we'll need to look at. I'm assuming we're pricing for multiple vendors 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.960 or the contract restricts us to just one vendor? No. There's multiple vendors that can bid 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:24.720 on those contract items. Okay. And the pricing is consistent across multiple 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:29.000 vendors? What I've seen, Lori, do you have any information 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:34.080 on that? The idea is to use the best value if we can and if that's not available, then 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.660 why do we use that? Yeah. When we re-solicit it, we'll probably 00:08:37.660 --> 00:08:42.600 do a request for proposal. So we'll split it into sections like we did this last time 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:48.160 and we award per section to multiple vendors just so we always have someone that can supply 00:08:48.160 --> 00:08:53.000 it. So price will be a part of it. Normally it's about 40%, sometimes up to 60%, depending 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:58.040 on what other evaluations we want to look at, like performance and service and stuff 00:08:58.040 --> 00:09:03.920 like that. Sometimes it's low price, but sometimes it's overall best value for the city, but 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:08.960 we will award by section. So this contract, I think, had 10 different vendors, some in 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.520 primary positions, some in secondary positions, and we'll probably assume to do the same thing 00:09:12.520 --> 00:09:14.720 next time. Thank you. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.880 Yeah. Any further questions? 00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:20.560 One final question. Sure. 00:09:20.560 --> 00:09:26.200 The hypochlorite, that tremendous increase in cost, have y'all evaluated doing onsite 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.420 generation instead of purchasing it? We have not. It's something that we can look 00:09:31.420 --> 00:09:37.280 into. Right now, at Ray Roberts, we were using chlorine gas, and the intent was to go away 00:09:37.280 --> 00:09:43.560 from the gas production of that, and we've got a temporary bleach tank in there right 00:09:43.560 --> 00:09:49.520 now. The Lake Lewisville had converted several years ago to liquid ammonium sulfate and sodium 00:09:49.520 --> 00:09:55.960 hypochlorite, much safer for staff. So we will see an increase in cost just because 00:09:55.960 --> 00:10:01.240 the liquid form is more expensive than the gas, for some reason now that it's shot up 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:06.880 to $2, almost $2 a gallon. But that's something we can look into, but definitely be evaluated. 00:10:06.880 --> 00:10:12.200 Yeah. I know other groups throughout North Texas have moved to that because it's not 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:16.800 a hazardous material until you make the hazardous material onsite, so you don't need hazardous 00:10:16.800 --> 00:10:21.800 shipping. You aren't calling a bunch of water. You're only, you know, you're delivering just 00:10:21.800 --> 00:10:22.800 your salt. Correct. 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:25.520 Your machine turns, you know, adds the water and turns it into- 00:10:25.520 --> 00:10:29.840 Yeah, I'd like to look at how safe it is for our staff onsite, because I know there are 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:33.780 some hazards associated with onsite generation as well. 00:10:33.780 --> 00:10:37.400 Thank you. That is an excellent point, sir. Thank you. 00:10:37.400 --> 00:10:46.400 I'd like to move approval of the item. Do we have a motion? Do we have a second? 00:10:46.400 --> 00:10:55.760 All in favor say aye. All opposed? Same sign. A passes. Now on to D. Do we have a single 00:10:55.760 --> 00:11:00.460 presentation for D, E, and F? That's correct. And Brandon Hamby is coming 00:11:00.460 --> 00:11:06.840 up from DME. So we'll introduce items D, E, and F for the 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.600 presentation. Good morning. My name is Brandon Hamby. I'm 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:18.160 the leader and division manager for DME. Let me get this up. 00:11:18.160 --> 00:11:35.800 And then, all right. That's not a keyboard. All right. 00:11:35.800 --> 00:11:39.740 For today, we're going over the invitation for bid. 00:11:39.740 --> 00:11:45.480 It's a renewal of the previous bid that we had, because the previous bid, we've run out 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:52.240 of money on a couple of vendors, kind of like they were talking about on the previous presentation. 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:57.120 Our bids are broken up into sections. And so we have the meter bid broken up into 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:02.880 several sections. And of those sections, two of our vendors have run out of allowable spend. 00:12:02.880 --> 00:12:10.360 And so after consulting with our procurement department, it was decided to go ahead and 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:16.360 do a renewal of the whole bid because of two vendors being out of that spend. 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:23.200 So what we did is we went out and we did a new meter bid for the whole meter blanket. 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:28.360 So and that's kind of what we talked about here. Previous spend for section A, because 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.800 I think that's why Mr. Ryback had pulled this, was the questions about section A of the metering 00:12:33.800 --> 00:12:37.880 section. So far, we had spent $4.9 million with that 00:12:37.880 --> 00:12:43.760 section. But the total allowable spend for that section was $8 million. 00:12:43.760 --> 00:12:50.340 So we hadn't spent that whole section of that one, but we have that there for just in case, 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:54.960 because we have, like I said, 8% growth. We've been adding about 3,000 electrometers 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.840 per year. And we also have a maintenance program where we have to change out all the meters 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:03.280 that need to be changed out because of our aging meter population from when we first 00:13:03.280 --> 00:13:08.520 did our AMI system back in 2010. So we have some meters that are older and the electronics 00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:13.480 are getting older and we're having to exchange some of those meters as well. 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:19.440 Overall our system overall, as of when I did this PowerPoint, we had 67,000 electric meters 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:24.800 in the city. Most of those are residential, about 63,000 of those. And on the AMI system, 00:13:24.800 --> 00:13:29.840 we have 13 customers that have chosen the opt-out and do not do the AMI, which means 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:39.760 we have to manually read those every month. And then we have about 4,700 commercial meters. 00:13:39.760 --> 00:13:45.460 The beta was broken up into five sections. And Techline was awarded section A for the 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:52.520 electric meters. Texas Electric Co-ops for sections B, C, and D for electric meter sockets. 00:13:52.520 --> 00:13:56.080 Primary Instrument Rated Transformers and Primary Instrument Rated Transformers. And 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.160 then section E was Tray Networks Inc. for our AMI equipment. 00:14:01.160 --> 00:14:18.680 I'm curious if you would go back. Where's the previous? Secure Mesh. Could you tell 00:14:18.680 --> 00:14:25.560 us what that is? Yes, sir. There's different technologies for automated metering infrastructure. 00:14:25.560 --> 00:14:28.600 And there's point to point. And then there's what they call Secure Mesh. And then they 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:36.680 have Powerline Carrier, PLC. Secure Mesh is radio. It's basically in the, it's going 00:14:36.680 --> 00:14:43.880 to, all the meters are going to communicate via radio from the meter point to the extender 00:14:43.880 --> 00:14:49.640 bridge, the collector we have, and then from the collector back to the gateway. And so, 00:14:49.640 --> 00:14:57.000 and all the, all the passing of that information is encrypted. It's got 128 bit encryption 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.160 on it. And so that's why it's called Secure Mesh. So if anybody was to try to intercept 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:04.960 and try to get any of those transmissions, they would need our encryption key to get 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:12.960 the information inside. Okay. So we have 72,000, 73,000 total meters. 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:17.360 How many extender bridges do we have? We have 78 extender bridges in two games. 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:18.360 78? Yes, sir. 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.360 That's all? Yes, sir. 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:25.600 Wow. That's impressive. I would have thought it had been many hundreds. 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:29.240 We have 78. It is growing though, because the city is growing. So we will be looking 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:35.720 to add some more. But we generally try to keep about 2000 meters per extender bridge. 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.760 So that we have failover. All the extender bridges are set strategically. So if one was 00:15:39.760 --> 00:15:45.040 to go down, the others in that area could pick up those meters. A total, an extender 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:49.400 bridge can run about 5,000 meters total on it. But we try to keep them around 2,000 so 00:15:49.400 --> 00:15:55.840 that we have that failover. Just in case, like I said, whatever happens, we've had poles 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:00.920 crashed into or stuff happen where we've lost extender bridges, lightning. Lightning happens 00:16:00.920 --> 00:16:05.520 a lot sometimes where we lose one. So if we lose one, in the meantime, the others can pull 00:16:05.520 --> 00:16:10.680 in all those reeds and keep our system up and robust and going with that failover. 00:16:10.680 --> 00:16:17.820 So what radio band are they working at? So the meters themselves are 2.4 gigahertz band. 00:16:17.820 --> 00:16:26.440 And then the extender bridges run 5.8 gigahertz. And they're in the open band, where it's unlicensed. 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.280 Some AMI systems have licensed bands. And then you have to pay for that license. And 00:16:30.280 --> 00:16:35.780 that's an ongoing fee to pay for that license. Ours is the unlicensed band. And that's the 00:16:35.780 --> 00:16:46.880 encryption. Unlicensed, but encrypted? Yes. OK. Yes, sir. All right. So that's kind of 00:16:46.880 --> 00:16:52.440 what comes to questions, which those are very good questions. And any other questions that 00:16:52.440 --> 00:17:11.040 we have? Yes, sir. To this one or back? Just got it. Go towards the ending. OK, thank you. 00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:18.060 There, breathe. OK. So you're asking then for an additional what? This is not additional. 00:17:18.060 --> 00:17:25.400 This is to take the place of our current bid. OK. Our current bid, sections B, C, and D, 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:30.960 that vendor TEC, and then section E, the trend, those were out of spend. And so when they're 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:36.120 out of spend, the recommendation was to bring the whole bid back to have the whole thing 00:17:36.120 --> 00:17:42.040 rebid again instead of just certain sections of it. And so we came-- we've come back about 00:17:42.040 --> 00:17:46.320 a year earlier than what we were expecting to come back, just because we ran out of spend. 00:17:46.320 --> 00:17:50.400 And part of that is just because the costs of prices keep going up. Every time that we 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:55.360 do an order, we'd end up having to do an amendment for pricing, because we go out for pricing, 00:17:55.360 --> 00:17:59.400 which I do the order in the same app. Pricing has changed again. You all need to do an amendment. 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:04.320 And so we have these ongoing price raises happening over the last couple of years on 00:18:04.320 --> 00:18:09.480 all this equipment. Thank you. And Mr. Rybeck, this is the annual amount. What you're considering 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:13.520 today is a five-year amount. So you get to multiply this times five, each of these times 00:18:13.520 --> 00:18:18.000 five, to get to the contract amount. So take those numbers times five, you're saying-- 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.960 Yeah, correct. If you look at the agenda, it's a five-year award. He's just showing 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:30.480 this on an annual basis. Thank you. Right. So we're looking at $10, $11, $12 million 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:36.000 roughly for the whole package? That'd be correct. OK. Over the five-year period? Over a five-year 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.360 period. And we try to build in some contingency there, because we've looked at historical 00:18:40.360 --> 00:18:44.920 rising cost of prices and what the vendors have been coming back with because of manufacturers 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:51.520 gone up on prices. When we first started our bid that we are currently in back in 2021, 00:18:51.520 --> 00:18:56.000 we look at the prices there to the prices now. And there's many products that have doubled 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:01.120 in price that are twice as much as what they were. And we're still-- So what are you projecting 00:19:01.120 --> 00:19:07.040 here over the five-year period for pricing? We built a 5% increase per year. I thought 00:19:07.040 --> 00:19:14.000 that that was modest, but we needed to account for something. Well, I guess in some cases, 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:18.960 they've already doubled, so how much more can they go up? I would hope not much more, 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:27.040 but we've yet to see them level out. Oh, really? Every time that we've gone back in every order, 00:19:27.040 --> 00:19:33.320 even in this last year, prices have continued to rise. So we're hoping that levels out. 00:19:33.320 --> 00:19:40.280 We've not seen this before the pandemic, 2020, of how this dramatic a price increases. I've 00:19:40.280 --> 00:19:45.120 been here 24 years. I've never seen prices increases like this, but it certainly ran 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:52.360 our contracts out of money quickly. OK, so it's potentially going to be required for 00:19:52.360 --> 00:19:58.000 you to come back and ask for additional increases on this contract, pending additional price 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:03.520 increases in equipment and material. We've tried to build a contingency in there for 00:20:03.520 --> 00:20:07.600 that, and we hope that that can cover that. But if it doesn't, then, yes, we would be 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:13.120 back for that. Yeah, Mr. Rybak, unlike what you heard the Water Department say, we continue 00:20:13.120 --> 00:20:18.640 to see prices across the electric industry continue to escalate. And so we've not seen 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:23.880 any kind of flattening. It just continues to just build up across the entire equipment 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:28.200 system that we have. Well, I can appreciate that. Our food bills 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:34.240 up about 50 percent over two years ago. I looked at the national average between 2020 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:42.440 and 2024 just on inflation, and it's 20 percent in the last several years. Just on that, I 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:48.840 think 2021 was 4 point something, 2022 is 8 percent something, and then 2023 was 8. 00:20:48.840 --> 00:20:55.680 And then this year is 2.6 or something like that. So we're not over that. The last quarter, 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:01.680 it was at 2.6 on inflation. So national inflation, we've gone up about 20 percent since our previous 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:07.960 contract till now. Unfortunate, but true. Thank you. 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:13.560 Yes, sir. Historically, and there were a number of 00:21:13.560 --> 00:21:17.640 debt and bids in this, are debt and firms able to even compete on this stuff? Have we 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:22.280 been able to engage with them? In this case, we didn't get any in this one, but just for 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:27.320 my background knowledge. I talk about competing for the products. 00:21:27.320 --> 00:21:32.280 With electric metering, there's usually only a handful of, say, meter manufacturers. There's 00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:36.600 only about five in the whole United States. And then to find the ones that actually work 00:21:36.600 --> 00:21:42.080 with our AMI system module, we're down to two out of those five. As far as other equipment 00:21:42.080 --> 00:21:48.160 like the current transformers, potential transformers, there's also a limited number of manufacturers 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:54.120 to those in the United States. So a lot of this equipment, there's just a handful of 00:21:54.120 --> 00:21:58.960 manufacturers that kind of hold the whole industry, and you're kind of limited to working 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:05.120 with those manufacturers and the distributors for those manufacturers. 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:10.100 But we would welcome more competition if someone was to bring it, because that would certainly 00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:14.400 help with the pricing, if they had some more competition than what they have. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:25.920 Mr. Chairman. So you've had a 5% increase, hoping that that would cover it. It looks 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:32.000 like it's not going to. Is it your thought that next year, when we start this again, 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:38.040 you feel comfortable with the 5% knowing that you'd possibly be coming back to us with more 00:22:38.040 --> 00:22:45.520 alterations, or are you thinking about going to a higher number than the 5% for protection? 00:22:45.520 --> 00:22:49.880 I think in the current contract that we're in, we didn't have that, the current meter 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.840 bid that we ran out of money. And so we tried to build that into this one so that we would 00:22:53.840 --> 00:23:01.240 have that and in the hopes that it would be enough to cover that. And like I said, all 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:07.440 we can do is project and go off of our best projection without looking to the future. 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:13.120 It's unknown, but we just look at our historicals and try to go off of what we've seen in the 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:17.800 last couple of years. But also knowing the last couple of years is a departure from what 00:23:17.800 --> 00:23:23.200 everything was before those years as far as pricing and hoping that we will level out 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:29.600 at some point. That's the hope that these prices don't continue, hoping there's going 00:23:29.600 --> 00:23:34.120 to be a leveling. And if it will level out in price and kind of hold a closer price, 00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:36.960 then yes, this money will be enough. 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:41.760 So you feel comfortable with going with this procedure and then possibly seeing us more 00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:46.160 often than we've seen you before just because of the market? 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.400 That could be possible. I'd be comfortable coming back and talking to you. 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.040 Well, I'm just saying, right back and made that come in. I have no problem with it. It's 00:23:52.040 --> 00:23:53.040 good to see you. Just curious. 00:23:53.040 --> 00:23:57.560 Well, Mr. Rainer, that's one of the reasons why we do an initial three-year contract. 00:23:57.560 --> 00:24:02.000 If we see prices escalate too much, if we see more demand than we anticipated that we 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:06.200 think might be worthwhile, us going out for rebid, we can do that after the additional 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.600 term of three years. Yes, sir. 00:24:08.600 --> 00:24:09.600 Commissioner Ruddick. 00:24:09.600 --> 00:24:14.280 Yes. I was wondering, so we're committed to this Trillion Network, obviously, for this 00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:21.880 data gathering. So really don't have much leverage over them in terms of seeking another 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:22.880 vendor or competition for that. 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:28.520 Right. They kind of have a monopoly on their equipment and then the modules that go in 00:24:28.520 --> 00:24:31.240 the meters for that equipment. 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:34.480 Have their rate increases been a little more moderate? 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:39.120 Yours has not been all that bad in the pricing. When I looked at theirs, actually their price 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:44.440 increases have been only about 3% per year and stuff like that. And so it hasn't been 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:50.160 as high a jumps as we've seen, particularly with meter basis and current transformers 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.200 and potential transformers. That's where we saw the biggest increases where things are 00:24:54.200 --> 00:25:00.120 double in price from where our current contract is to the proposal of this one. 00:25:00.120 --> 00:25:06.760 Mr. Ruddick, the AMI system is something that DME implemented, what, 10 years ago, 20 years 00:25:06.760 --> 00:25:07.760 ago now, I guess. 00:25:07.760 --> 00:25:13.600 Starting 2010 is a five-year rollout. We completed it. It had 100% complete in 2015. 00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:21.600 So we do have in our CIP out in the out years $40 million to look at a new AMI system. We 00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:26.760 continue to push that out because the system is doing what we need it to do. But at some 00:25:26.760 --> 00:25:32.280 point, we probably need to look at just refreshing that and maybe looking at another system because 00:25:32.280 --> 00:25:36.540 there have been technology improvements. The water department is currently looking and 00:25:36.540 --> 00:25:40.600 implementing AMI as well. So there might be some opportunities there for us to leverage 00:25:40.600 --> 00:25:45.400 with them. But again, I think right now the cheaper route is to continue to keep the system 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.040 that we have. It's doing the work that we need it to do and postpone that $40 million. 00:25:49.040 --> 00:25:57.280 As long as their rate increases have been more normal and acceptable. Some of the rate 00:25:57.280 --> 00:26:05.560 increases we saw with the chemicals, it was eight times in one year. That's big. Anyway, 00:26:05.560 --> 00:26:09.600 I don't have anything else. Thank you. 00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:18.480 Any further questions? We'll consider these items individually. I would take a motion 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:29.040 for item D. So moved. Mr. Ryback moves. Second. Anybody? Mr. Plotk seconds. All in favor? 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:40.560 All are. The vote is unanimous for item E. I would consider a motion. Second. Motion 00:26:40.560 --> 00:26:52.000 is second. All in favor? Unanimously again. And for item E, a motion? I'm sorry. Item 00:26:52.000 --> 00:27:02.400 F. You're right. Who's the motion? I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Commissioner Plotk, second. All 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:11.720 in favor? Also passes unanimously. Moving on to items for individual consideration. Item 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:23.960 A, consider approval of the November 18, 2024 minutes. Is there a motion? Commissioner Newquist 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:33.480 and second by Ryback. All in favor? All are. Passes. And item B, consider adoption of an 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:38.560 ordinance from the city of Denton authorizing city manager to execute a CMAR guaranteed 00:27:38.560 --> 00:27:48.000 maximum price contract, price amendment number three to CMAR contract with Sunt Construction 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:53.000 for let's see, construction phase services of the third work package for neighborhood 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:58.600 two and six improvements. Good morning board members. Scott Feddick, senior project manager 00:27:58.600 --> 00:28:04.760 with capital projects. As you stated here this morning for consideration for an amendment 00:28:04.760 --> 00:28:10.040 to the contract for neighborhood two and six for GMP three or guaranteed maximum price 00:28:10.040 --> 00:28:17.800 number three. Neighborhood two and six is part of the 2019 bond program. So a little 00:28:17.800 --> 00:28:23.840 bit about two and six project. The area that we're taking place for three you can see on 00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:30.200 the map is indicated by the dotted black line. This overall project takes place primarily 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:35.520 in the southwest quadrant of the city of Denton. Some of the major streets with package three 00:28:35.520 --> 00:28:43.720 will be Sunset, Cordell, Congress and Scripture. With this project we'll be doing 49 roadway 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:49.280 segments for reconstruction. There's about 11,000 feet of water main replacements, 8,300 00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:54.280 feet of wastewater replacement, about 3,000 square yards of sidewalk replacement and then 00:28:54.280 --> 00:29:02.120 we'll also be looking at doing some sidewalk lighting and installation. So the GMP three 00:29:02.120 --> 00:29:08.100 overall cost, cost of work was just over 21 million. We had the contingencies for owner 00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:20.760 and Seymour with allowances. Total contract amount was 28 million, 145, 415 cents. Kind 00:29:20.760 --> 00:29:28.920 of a little bit about the... Could you go back please? Yes sir. What is the CMR's contingency? 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:34.820 So that is, that is an allowance that allows them to use money that is for items that come 00:29:34.820 --> 00:29:39.800 up within the project that are related to the project. So just for a simple example, 00:29:39.800 --> 00:29:45.320 when we're working in the UNT area, we started noticing that students are trying to get into 00:29:45.320 --> 00:29:51.280 the construction area. We didn't perceive that so they needed to get some fencing to 00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:55.600 put up and UNT requested fencing so we allowed them to use that contingency to go out and 00:29:55.600 --> 00:30:00.960 rent some chain link fencing and areas to protect the students in the project area. 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.240 So things like that that benefit the project. Okay so are allowances then from previous 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:12.120 risk contingency expenditures? Yeah so allowances, yeah so when we, we look at what the risk 00:30:12.120 --> 00:30:18.720 may be so just for example like say mailboxes, a bunch of mailboxes along the side of a street 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.400 that we could possibly damage as we go down through there but we don't know that we're 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:26.960 going to for sure. So we put that in an allowance so if that would happen, we have individual 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:31.700 lines that could use that money to fix that mailbox and if we don't use any of it, that 00:30:31.700 --> 00:30:36.080 money all reverts back to the city. That allows us to bring that money back versus have a 00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:42.040 line item that would get paid out in full for something we may or may not do. Okay so 00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:50.920 if you'll excuse me just working through this, so the construction fee is not the same as 00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:56.400 the general condition so the general contractor is being paid for their general conditions, 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:02.080 the construction fee goes to the CMR? Yes so it's, yeah it's a figure on the total cost 00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:06.120 of the project and then yes and then anything that's not used for that percentage would 00:31:06.120 --> 00:31:15.240 also revert back to the city and then the project for the construction fee. Okay thank 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:21.920 you. Mr. Chair, so if I understand on the contingency that would let's say the chain 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:27.520 link fence as you mentioned, but the mailboxes fall under the allowances? Right, right. It 00:31:27.520 --> 00:31:33.200 is a risk that we identified, you know the allowances are risks that we identified during 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:38.600 the project design. So as you're aware with the CMR, we bring on the CMR design firm and 00:31:38.600 --> 00:31:43.000 we all do it together. So constructability they're looking at, well this is a possibility 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:48.680 we might have to do this or you know sweeping or whatever you know that we may or may not 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:55.560 have to do is added as an allowance versus a solid bid on that line on them. So an event 00:31:55.560 --> 00:32:00.800 like the chain link fence just caught everybody by surprise because of the clientele in the 00:32:00.800 --> 00:32:04.760 neighborhood? Right that wasn't really expected. Students or students? Right, wasn't really 00:32:04.760 --> 00:32:11.480 expected so that is a way allowed to use contingency. Thank you for that. Mr. Chair, concerning 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:17.520 the contingency what you said the word we permit them to access the contingency, is 00:32:17.520 --> 00:32:21.200 there a comeback process to us to where they're telling us hey we're going or do they have 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:25.320 some unilateral discretion to go ahead and access it? How does that work? How do we know 00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:30.280 when they're tapping that? Yes, so we are required to let us know what they're going 00:32:30.280 --> 00:32:35.360 to use it for, vet out, give us cost, they provide the cost estimates and everything 00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:46.640 to us and then we say okay yeah we agree this is a valid use of contingency. Good. All right 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.400 so a little bit about our project schedule. Like I said this is the third and final GMP 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:59.640 for this project. GMP number one we started construction in November of 23, sorry December 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:07.760 of 23. GMP number two we started construction in May of 24. We are with an approval here 00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:14.280 we're going to go to council on the 17th and with that if we get an approval we would start 00:33:14.280 --> 00:33:21.000 GMP construction probably sometime in January quarter one of 2025. Overall project we are 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:29.960 expecting a total completion of the project in quarter four of 2026. So will that be the 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:35.400 complete expenditure then of the 2019 bond? Will that complete it? We'll not complete 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:42.760 the bond just this project. Okay and how much more of the bond is left to be executed? So 00:33:42.760 --> 00:33:47.720 we do have a few more projects left. There's the neighborhood 5A project, we've got the 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:54.480 neighborhood 5B and also the Oakland drainage is part of that project. There's a still in 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.800 in progress the neighborhood four project. We have a few projects that were associated 00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:06.920 with it that we have on hold right now with funding and they may get pushed but so majority 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:12.960 of it we're getting there so we're getting the majority of it is under construction or 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:18.640 in design. Okay so that 2019 bond when do we more or less anticipate that those projects 00:34:18.640 --> 00:34:26.640 will be completed? I think with the Oakland 5B Seth you may have to help me this is 28 00:34:26.640 --> 00:34:38.120 27 I know for sure into 27 28 for that project. I just want to get a general idea. Okay with 00:34:38.120 --> 00:34:43.440 that staff recommendation would be an amendment to the contract with Sunt Construction for 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:52.200 the GMP number three total not to exceed amount of $28,145,400.15 that does include the owners 00:34:52.200 --> 00:35:03.400 contingency of one million dollars. And any additional questions? Any further questions? 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:20.240 Or a motion? Mr. Ryback moves second. Nucleus seconds. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? None. 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:27.280 Motion B passes. Now we'll move to item C. Consider recommending adoption of an ordinance 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:33.480 to the city of Denton authorizing the city manager to execute a contact with Tiseo Paving 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:40.640 for construction of Bonnie Bray phase six improvement project for a total amount not 00:35:40.640 --> 00:36:02.360 to exceed $38,688,093.66. Good morning public utility board members my name is Jesus Perez 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.520 I'm a project manager with capital projects and I'll be introducing the Bonnie Bray phase 00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:12.800 six improvement project to you and the utilities that we will construct within its project 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:21.280 limits. On Bonnie Bray the scope will be to widen to a four-lane divided roadway from 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.800 University Drive all the way to Elm Street and within those project limits there will 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:36.760 be a total of 2,600 linear feet of new water mains and also a total of 11,600 linear feet 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:43.200 of new stormwater mains. On the scope on Rainey Road of course it would be to widen it to 00:36:43.200 --> 00:36:49.600 three lane a three lane roadway meaning there will be a turn lane in between from the Bonnie 00:36:49.600 --> 00:36:58.600 Bray intersection and Rainey Road to about 120 feet west of the Hardaway Road intersection. 00:36:58.600 --> 00:37:03.240 Within those project limits we will install about a thousand linear feet of new water 00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:13.400 mains and also a total of 800 feet of stormwater upgrades. The bid opening for this project 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:20.560 was conducted on August 28th 2024. At the time there was only two bids that were received 00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:28.960 and opened by procurement. The lowest bidder at the time it was from Tizio Paving Company. 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:35.560 All the bids and supporting documentation was collected by procurement and then sent 00:37:35.560 --> 00:37:41.880 to the Texas Department of Transportation for their approval. Once we received approval 00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:50.920 we had the go ahead to move towards construction. The base bid submitted by Tizio Paving at 00:37:50.920 --> 00:38:05.840 that time was for $36,845,803.49. The funding sources for this project are coming from a 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:12.040 couple of different sources. The first one being the 2019 General Obligation Fund. There 00:38:12.040 --> 00:38:19.680 is some Federal Highway Administration funding and there is Denton ISD funding that's coming 00:38:19.680 --> 00:38:27.640 through an ILA, Interlocal Agreement between the City and the school for the Riney Road 00:38:27.640 --> 00:38:36.320 segment. The upcoming schedule for the project of course will be to go before City Council 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:43.880 on December 17th to recommend award to the contractor. Shortly thereafter we will issue 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:50.040 a partial notice to proceed for the contractor to start ordering materials with a lot of 00:38:50.040 --> 00:38:56.840 lead time. Once we are in January the City will issue the full notice to proceed to the 00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:04.760 contractor so he can begin full mobilization into the areas that we need them to. What 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:11.920 I mean by that is that we have built in milestones into the project manual. There's three key 00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:21.720 milestones that he must meet time frame so that time is of the essence. The contractor 00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:28.680 asked for the total project, the contractor will have a total of two and a half years 00:39:28.680 --> 00:39:38.440 to complete. I have a couple of quick questions. The contractor that we plan to award to Tizio 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:47.000 Paving does the City have any experience working with them? No sir. Asking around with my project 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:53.000 manager team, I have not had any experience with them and neither has my team. The only 00:39:53.000 --> 00:40:00.440 person that I met that has had previous experience with Tizio Paving was the public works inspector 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:09.960 supervisor and he's dealt with them so I guess we will all have our first experience 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.000 with them. Okay well I'm curious because their bid was significantly lower than the other 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:22.520 bidder. About 30 something percent. It's always a little scary. It's good for the taxpayer 00:40:22.520 --> 00:40:26.480 but it could be scary for performance. And the other thing I was wondering, you mentioned 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:32.440 Riley Road. I didn't see that on the map that you showed us. Did I miss it? It's a very 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:40.640 short segment. It's where the drive in theater used to be. I'll have to take your word for 00:40:40.640 --> 00:40:52.320 that. That's where I saw Rambo. Oh there it is. Right there. That little, right by the 00:40:52.320 --> 00:41:00.960 high school. Well the new elementary school. Like I said earlier the interlocal agreement 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:07.120 is basically the agreement between the City and Denton ISD to construct Rainey Road. So 00:41:07.120 --> 00:41:12.840 right in front of the new elementary school frontage it goes actually from three lanes 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:20.060 to four lanes. So the project kind of builds a deceleration lane into their first driveway. 00:41:20.060 --> 00:41:26.880 So that's where I talk about that is the little section of Rainey Road that we are constructing. 00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:34.920 Okay so it's just that little leg that's why I missed it. Thank you. Mr. Chair a couple 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:45.500 of questions. To dovetail Mr. Rayback on were both of these companies, are they, so one 00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:52.120 is not on our LSER approved list per se. This is a brand new venture with him. What about 00:41:52.120 --> 00:42:00.040 Ed Bell? Are they in our primary, secondary, are they on the list? Where are they? I've 00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:06.100 only been here with the City of Denton for two years and in the Metroplex so I have no 00:42:06.100 --> 00:42:12.520 experience with contractors that would submit their bids so I have also no information for 00:42:12.520 --> 00:42:19.560 Ed Bell construction but I'll let Seth. Good morning board members. Seth Garcia, Deputy 00:42:19.560 --> 00:42:23.960 Director of Cal4Project. So both are very well qualified contractors. They do a lot 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.580 of work in the Metroplex. As work shrinking in the Metroplex we're seeing some of them 00:42:28.580 --> 00:42:34.200 continue to come north as we're continuing to put out projects. Mr. Rayback to your point 00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:41.060 I think Ed Bell's construction number is actually high and what we had the OPC was closer to 00:42:41.060 --> 00:42:48.400 Tizio Paving so really we were within I think less than a percent of our engineers estimate 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:54.620 for Tizio's number. Those FHWA funds that we have received for this project put additional 00:42:54.620 --> 00:42:59.760 stipulations on the contractors that we think weeded out some of the bids that we would 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.580 normally receive from some of our normal players so again getting two on a project this size 00:43:04.580 --> 00:43:11.040 and complexity we felt comfortable with these numbers. So if I may ask then on another point 00:43:11.040 --> 00:43:22.040 on the Denton ISD and the federal housing funding housing highway pardon me no my occupation 00:43:22.040 --> 00:43:30.680 are those costs include are those included in this? Yes sir so part of let me switch 00:43:30.680 --> 00:43:35.920 over to his funding. I'm just looking are we getting a little relief from those? Absolutely 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.840 so I believe so it's gonna be more than the 36. The contract amount is correct the city 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.840 's portion of that contract amount is what is less so from Denton ISD I believe we got 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.800 a little over 1.5 million to build their portion of Riney Road again the L.A. calls for a true 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:57.000 up process so once we actually receive bids we'll true up against the number that they 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.220 fronted us to make sure they're covering all portions of costs and anything that they go 00:44:01.220 --> 00:44:07.200 over for their portion they will reimburse back to the city. The FHWA funds was a little 00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:14.360 over 9 million dollars for construction and total we had 11.9 million so add those together 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:19.760 the city's portions roughly 25 million. That helps a lot. Absolutely sorry we didn't break 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:26.440 that down a little bit clearer. Thank you. Question please. Go ahead. When that FHA money 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:31.400 that federal highway when does that come is that on progress are they in first and we're 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.980 in last how's that work? Yep so it's reimbursable the 2 million of that came through right away 00:44:36.980 --> 00:44:44.320 so again once we procure and issue the funds we show we submit it to our transportation 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.980 consultant who provides it to TxDOT the local area office reviews it it goes to Austin for 00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:55.720 final approval and then we receive reimbursement back. So essentially we'll use a portion of 00:44:55.720 --> 00:45:00.900 the 25 million we have set into the project to front the money and then we'll do reimbursements 00:45:00.900 --> 00:45:11.360 on a monthly basis as we go through. Any further questions? Thank you sir. So this project is 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.880 adjacent to the Denton High School which has a couple of thousand cars a day entering and 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.040 leaving and then it's also next to the new elementary school. Is the new elementary school 00:45:20.040 --> 00:45:26.700 being constructed? It's in the same alignment Bronco West of the intersection of Rainey 00:45:26.700 --> 00:45:32.240 Road and Bronco Way. You go on Bronco Way to the high school and then if you go east 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:37.200 of the intersection you will be arriving at the new elementary school that is to open 00:45:37.200 --> 00:45:44.480 on August 20 August 2025. Okay so there there is a lot of traffic like very heavy daily 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.320 traffic to consider here. I'm assuming there's there's a phasing plan that allows all of 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:57.720 that traffic to to flow without creating. Yes and that's what I spoke earlier about 00:45:57.720 --> 00:46:03.440 the milestones that were built into the project the project manual. So the intersection of 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:09.460 Rainey Road and Bonnie Bray in essence becomes the most important the most critical intersection. 00:46:09.460 --> 00:46:17.680 So there will be a temporary asphalt pavement built on the west side of the intersection. 00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:22.920 So as that is being built the traffic that is approaching the intersection will be allowed 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:30.260 to go westbound eastbound and still northbound. They'll still have the same way of the same 00:46:30.260 --> 00:46:36.380 pattern as we built this temporary asphalt pavement around it. So once the temporary 00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:42.280 asphalt pavement is ready we'll flip the traffic and now the traffic will now be on the temporary 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:47.840 pavement going around the intersection and the contractor will fully close the intersection 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:55.800 and completely tear tear up and start rebuilding the road and into a much wider because Rainey 00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:02.160 Road will be a traffic controlled light intersection. I'm glad to hear I was afraid it was going 00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:15.360 to be a four-way stop sign. All right thank you. Yes let me so I think this is the slide 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.800 that I was in. So the staff recommendation would be to authorize the construction contract 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:28.000 with Tizio Paving both for the base bid and the owner's contingency of five percent. So 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:33.560 the total contract notice not to exceed amount will be thirty eight million six hundred and 00:47:33.560 --> 00:47:40.840 eighty eight thousand and ninety three dollars and sixty six cents. And any open up for any 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:47.280 further questions that you might have any further questions. It's one last school related 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:54.920 question are there sidewalks in the plan along Bonnie Bray and Rainey Road. Yes the the whole 00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:04.360 length of Bonnie Bray there we have plans to widen to the eight foot walking path. I 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:10.320 on both sides I believe and Rainey Road also on Rainey Road on the south side of running 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:21.520 road going to the intersection also gets a eight foot walking path. Thank you. Yeah can 00:48:21.520 --> 00:48:37.160 you go back to the time frame. There are no further questions. Chair would entertain a 00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:46.960 motion to move. We have a motion. Second. All in favor. Any opposed. Motion carries 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:54.840 unanimously on to management reports Mr. Chair. We have a couple of items that we've provided 00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:01.360 to you as follow ups. There was a memo on customer distribution for DMA. I think Mr. 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.960 Taylor had requested that there was also a follow up memo to a question that Mr. Ryback 00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:13.740 had and we have staff here. If there's any questions you have on either those memos questions 00:49:13.740 --> 00:49:22.260 first. Oh yeah so I appreciate the information and I noticed the categories were residential 00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:29.120 commercial industrial. I assume industrial is just the size of peak load or size of demand. 00:49:29.120 --> 00:49:37.800 That's correct. Okay. Thank you. Yes I have a question about the memo. I'm sorry go ahead. 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:45.720 What is a miscellaneous account in the pie chart. Let me ask Melissa to get up here and 00:49:45.720 --> 00:49:52.240 give you that answer. Good morning members. My name is Melissa with DME. Miscellaneous 00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:57.760 is essentially broken up between lighting and then we also have like the temporary service 00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:11.560 meters as well. It's just a break up of those. Any other questions on that one. Thank you. 00:50:11.560 --> 00:50:17.720 Yes I'm the one who requested the information regarding the filter repairs at Lewisville 00:50:17.720 --> 00:50:24.280 plant and I noticed that there was no start date as to when that occurred and was start 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:31.080 date for the water restrictions. Is anybody from the water department here who can. Yeah 00:50:31.080 --> 00:50:36.480 I don't see anybody from the water department here. I do apologize for that. But I'll go 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.480 ahead and take your question and we'll get get a response back to you on that. The reason 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.560 for my asking is when we were first reported to us this failure had occurred and there 00:50:45.560 --> 00:50:50.080 was a repair of the contractor who was doing that work was going to be kept on site and 00:50:50.080 --> 00:50:54.360 the whole thing would be wrapped up in a couple of weeks. Well it doesn't look like it was 00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.000 a couple of weeks. So maybe we need to know more about why it took longer to take place. 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.640 Yeah we'll get with with Stephen and Chris Carroll to get your response on that. Appreciate 00:51:04.640 --> 00:51:16.800 that. Thank you. Yeah so the only other items that we have on here. So today's the final 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:26.560 meeting of 2024. Your next meeting scheduled for January 13th and we'll try to populate 00:51:26.560 --> 00:51:32.520 that calendar for you. But shortly after the beginning of the year we begin the budget 00:51:32.520 --> 00:51:37.640 process and we'll be back in the whole process for all the utilities and look forward to 00:51:37.640 --> 00:51:42.640 having conversations with you about about the next year's budget. So with that happy 00:51:42.640 --> 00:51:49.680 answer any other questions you may have. Okay seeing no more questions chair would entertain 00:51:49.680 --> 00:51:54.040 a motion to adjourn. We are adjourned.