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01:39:29,980 --> 01:39:39,980 [ Silence ] 524 01:39:40,000 --> 01:40:01,980 I should have, quote, removed my motion because I don't feel that the final motion that was put forward to and voted upon was a better clarification. 525 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:11,980 It says what's being taken away and what's being added, and that was my objective. 526 01:40:11,980 --> 01:40:25,980 As to which way you voted, whether or not it has to go up, and this is something with legal. Does it have to go through a full open of discussion? 527 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:45,980 Or can a member say that I personally am reconsidering my vote and would like to change it from a yay to a nay, or vice versa, and then see how it impacts rather than doing it through a discussion? 528 01:40:46,000 --> 01:41:07,980 I don't know, but, you know, we battled this out the last time in more ways than one, and it was a contentious meeting that had a lot of personal items brought in it. 529 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:36,980 That personal item's influenced, I think, the way people voted then, and I thought we were here as a representative of our council member and as a representative of the constituents of that council member and not being impacted by our personal preferences. 530 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:48,980 And the like. So, I think we're getting into some whatever aspects of legality on this, and that's all. 531 01:41:48,980 --> 01:41:58,980 I'm going to hold my tongue on the propriety of this motion and when it's made and the spirit in which it's offered, and I'm going to give full deference to the chair. 532 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:06,980 This has been made in good faith, but the likelihood, if this motion were to carry and we were to reconsider, we would have to have an eight. 533 01:42:06,980 --> 01:42:14,980 And we're not telling the council what's going to be on the ballot, we're making a recommendation to the council on what we think ought to be on the ballot. 534 01:42:14,980 --> 01:42:21,980 We had a vote, we had a lively discussion, we had the latest of many lively discussions on this topic. 535 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:40,980 We voted, and now, if the vote was eight, six, eight, four, excuse me, eight, four, the likelihood if we reconsider and the chair changes her vote is that we're going to be seven, four, or six, five, or something that is not the affirmative eight. 536 01:42:40,980 --> 01:42:50,980 So, if your intention is that we don't recommend language to the city council, and we just don't have that recommendation go forward, that's the likelihood of what happens if we reconsider this. 537 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:57,980 If we don't reconsider it, the city council will have the same conversation if they choose to put it on the ballot. 538 01:42:57,980 --> 01:43:05,980 If you feel strongly about it, you can contact the city council members that you feel you're going to be the one presenting it with staff. 539 01:43:05,980 --> 01:43:19,980 So, all this motion reconsider can do is take away from this committee the ability to make a recommendation, because I don't think there are eight votes for the old way or the Julie suggestion or any of those other things. 540 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:24,980 There were eight votes at the time for that, and I think we all vote by the stand. 541 01:43:24,980 --> 01:43:25,980 Commissioner McClure. 542 01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:30,980 Julie, do you understand or do you recall in your motion? 543 01:43:30,980 --> 01:43:32,980 Julie didn't make that motion. 544 01:43:32,980 --> 01:43:35,980 The motion that she had before. 545 01:43:35,980 --> 01:43:36,980 She had it. 546 01:43:36,980 --> 01:43:44,980 She had it. 547 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:53,980 I don't think it's material whether Julie did or didn't make the motion. You're just saying that you want to change your vote from the motion that was on that one. 548 01:43:53,980 --> 01:43:55,980 You're asking to reopen. 549 01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:57,980 Yes, that would be much freer. 550 01:43:57,980 --> 01:44:00,980 I'm just saying that's what you're seeking. 551 01:44:00,980 --> 01:44:03,980 Right, yes. 552 01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:07,980 Do other people want to change their vote too? 553 01:44:07,980 --> 01:44:13,980 I mean, this is the second time we've voted on something twice that didn't go a certain way. 554 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,980 Let's call a spade a spade here. 555 01:44:15,980 --> 01:44:17,980 It's the fourth time. 556 01:44:17,980 --> 01:44:22,980 It's getting a little bit silly. 557 01:44:22,980 --> 01:44:27,980 That's my statement, and I'm going to be quiet. 558 01:44:27,980 --> 01:44:30,980 Again, Jane was a second to the motion. 559 01:44:30,980 --> 01:44:40,980 And so her vote, because we started talking again instead of taking the vote, Jane didn't get to vote, and it was clear how she was going to vote, and that would put it at nine and it would still carry. 560 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:46,980 So it seems unfair to reopen it when Jane didn't get to vote on the motion she proposed. 561 01:44:46,980 --> 01:44:52,980 So that's my biggest problem with reopening it. We didn't let her vote. We didn't catch her. 562 01:44:52,980 --> 01:45:01,980 And so I just think it's unfair to reopen it when she didn't even get to vote on. Her vote's not counted when she was the second. 563 01:45:01,980 --> 01:45:07,980 That's why I would refrain from reopening it. 564 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:13,980 I agree with Michelle. 565 01:45:13,980 --> 01:45:35,980 This whole thing started the last time with a reopening what had been a vote, because at that point it was concerning, supposedly, that certain people hadn't been present for the first vote. 566 01:45:36,000 --> 01:46:02,980 And if you keep doing stuff like this, you're doing such that as people read or watch, because I know several of them already have to me voiced, you know, your committee has lost its integrity. 567 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,980 I'll leave it at that. 568 01:46:05,980 --> 01:46:07,980 Question. 569 01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:13,980 Do you have the authority to do it again? 570 01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:17,980 The committee has the authority to approve a motion to consider or not. 571 01:46:17,980 --> 01:46:24,980 So you can bring the motion. I mean, you can say that and we can go ahead and do the motion. We choose to do that. 572 01:46:24,980 --> 01:46:29,980 On any vote, any member who voted with the majority can motion to refuse. 573 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,980 Okay. So, has there been a motion on the floor for that? 574 01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:35,980 My motion. 575 01:46:35,980 --> 01:46:37,980 Has there been a second to it? 576 01:46:37,980 --> 01:46:41,980 I believe I seconded it. Can I just make a comment too? 577 01:46:41,980 --> 01:46:43,980 Mr. Bunchigwer? 578 01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:53,980 I don't think, Chairwoman DeVray, I don't think you've lost your integrity. I think you made a genuine mistake. It's a long day. I'm going to take you with the word that you made a mistake. I think that's fine. 579 01:46:54,000 --> 01:47:03,980 And if Commissioner Seigel wanted to stay to vote on it, she very well could have because it was pretty clear it was coming up and she stepped out anyway. 580 01:47:03,980 --> 01:47:12,980 So I can't control that happen and that that changes the material of the vote at the end of the day. She's not here to actually vote on it. She very well could have stayed a couple more minutes. 581 01:47:12,980 --> 01:47:17,980 I trust that you made a mistake. So I'm going to be voting in favor of the motion to reconsider. 582 01:47:17,980 --> 01:47:19,980 Commissioner Danhout? 583 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:30,980 That same exact logic could have been used for why we've re-voted the first time. If you would have wanted to be here for the first vote, you could have been here. That's exactly what you just said. 584 01:47:30,980 --> 01:47:31,980 That's correct. 585 01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:49,980 I'm just putting that as a motion or as a statement that we keep doing this re-votes based on someone being or not being here. Now we've got a person who's not here and we're doing the exact same thing and using the opposite logic. 586 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:55,980 That is inconsistent at best. 587 01:47:55,980 --> 01:48:09,980 That's not correct though because she never actually voted on the original motion and the reason that this language even came back up in the first place is we never reached the eight votes necessary to make a recommendation. At that point there was a lack of a recommendation. 588 01:48:09,980 --> 01:48:12,980 We won't. We won't. 589 01:48:12,980 --> 01:48:16,980 Commissioner Davis, would you like to speak? 590 01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:35,980 Strange credulity that we're still having this conversation. You're pushing it too far. You had your second vote. You got your recommendation to City Council. You didn't like the way the vote went on the language and here we are again. We're not going to have eight votes for other language if you're changing your vote. 591 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:51,980 Whether Jane was here. If Jane was here it would be eight votes and we won't. You are hamstringing your own committee. You have the ability to do it. It's foolish. It makes us look foolish. 592 01:48:52,000 --> 01:49:10,980 And what do we vote? Hearing no further discussion. All those in favor of reconsideration of the language for this first question, please raise your right hand and say aye. No, but for reconsideration. For reconsideration. 593 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:32,980 All those opposed, please raise your right hand and say nay. Motion fails. All right. We move on now to the minutes I believe. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. We move on to the minutes and the amendment as presented by Commissioner McClure. Staff has reviewed the footage. 594 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:52,980 Yes Carlotta reviewed the footage and confirmed that the statement written amendment brought by Commissioner McClure is accurate. All right. Do I hear any motion on the approval of minutes? I think we had a motion on the floor. 595 01:49:53,000 --> 01:50:16,980 Would that carry through? We have a motion from Commissioner Davis, second by Commissioner McClure. All right. Any discussion of that motion in light of the new information? Staff says that it's correct. 596 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:38,980 All right. Any further discussion? All those in favor of certifying the minutes from our previous meeting with the amendment presented by Commissioner McClure, please raise your right hand and say aye. All those opposed, please raise your right hand and say nay. 597 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:57,980 Motion passes. How many concluding items? Commissioner Davis. Our final vote was unanimous just now. 598 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:12,980 All right. Seeing no further concluding items, I will close this meeting. Call this meeting to close at 729 p.m. on Thursday, November 14th. Thank you everyone. Y'all have a good night and hope safe.