1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,860 >> Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission 2 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:12,620 meeting for Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024. 3 00:00:12,620 --> 00:00:17,480 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 5.30 p.m. 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,740 This is our work session. 5 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:21,160 We don't have any work session reports. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,540 We've just got clarification on tonight's agenda. 7 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:29,000 So with that, our first item on our agenda are the minutes from October 9th. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Any questions, comments, issues with the minutes? 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Okay. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,800 How about for the proposed calendar for next year? 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,040 All good with that? 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,520 Okie dokie. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,840 Next would be 3B, FP240038. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,560 Sean, are you going to be -- Cameron? 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,880 >> Yes, ma'am. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,880 >> Okay. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Thank you. 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,880 >> Good. 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:10,960 Good evening, Chair and members of the Commission. 20 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:14,280 This is the Home Zone Denton edition. 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:20,680 It is a final plat for approximately two and a half acre, almost two and a half acre property 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,560 at the corner of West University and Ector. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,320 It has not yet met our criteria for approval, so we are recommending denial, but have no 24 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:33,200 objection to a first extension to November 13th. 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Happy to answer any questions. 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,800 >> Great. 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,760 Questions for Sean? 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Thank you very much. 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Next on the agenda would be 3C, V240111. 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Erin is here to give us the summary of that item and answer any questions for us. 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,440 Hi. 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,440 >> Hello. 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,440 >> Hi. 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,440 >> Let's see. 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Okay. 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:08,960 This is V24, Josh 01111. 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,280 This is a variance request for the Titan edition. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:20,360 The request is a variance from DDC subsection 8.32E3 to increase the maximum length of the 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,840 flagpole portion of the lot from 300 feet to 1,538 feet, and this is associated with 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,680 a minor plat that is under review right now and would be staff approved if this variance 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:41,520 passes and is a 21-acre lot generally located on the north side of FM 2449, just about a 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:50,060 mile -- or half a mile east of Florence Road out near Ponder, and this request is in compliance 43 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:53,480 with the DDC, and staff is recommending approval. 44 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,600 I'll have a longer presentation for the main session, but I'm happy to answer any questions. 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,600 >> Great. 46 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Thank you. 47 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Questions at all? 48 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Okay. 49 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Appreciate it. 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Thank you very much. 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Next is 3D, PP240006. 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,480 We had a very late email on this one about half an hour ago. 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,480 >> Yes. 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,480 >> Yes. 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,480 >> That is actually me. 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,320 >> Okay. 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,600 So -- all right. 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:31,400 Yes, so PP240006A, and yes, we were working pretty hard to get through this one, but they 59 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:38,520 -- we got everything done, and so the -- I'm sorry, it is the RM squared addition, about 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,640 363 acres out north of Hampton Road, and we are now recommending approval because they 61 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,120 have addressed all of our concerns. 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:52,120 I'm happy to answer any questions. 63 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,120 >> Great. 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Questions? 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Okay. 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Thank you very much. 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,080 I've got a few public hearings tonight. 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:06,320 First was -- is 4A, Z240014. 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,720 Matt is here. 70 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Hello there. 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,720 >> Hello. 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,720 All right. 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Matt Bodine, assistant planner, here to present a rezoning case requested by city staff for 74 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,320 city property. 75 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,400 This is to rezone approximately 40 acres from RR to PF district. 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,320 The property in question is just south of the Denton energy center and a little bit 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,920 west of the airport. 78 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,040 It is consistent. 79 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:59,760 This is to develop a solid waste transfer station and data center expansion on the property. 80 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:06,640 It is consistent with the zoning district and the Denton 2040 plan, and staff is recommending 81 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,560 approval of the zoning change request. 82 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,920 I have a much longer presentation for the main session, but here to answer any questions. 83 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,920 >> Great. 84 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Thank you. 85 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Questions from that? 86 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:26,800 Matt, I know initially this land was acquired on purpose for the solid waste transfer, correct? 87 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,320 >> So when the city was negotiating with the property owner, it was expressed with them 88 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,880 the purpose was for a solid waste transfer station. 89 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,400 The data center expansion has been a recent development. 90 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,040 It would be kind of like a secondary accessory use on the property, only expected to take 91 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,000 up a small portion. 92 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,720 That is moving forward quicker than the solid waste transfer station, hence the rezoning 93 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,720 at this time. 94 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,280 But it would allow for both uses. 95 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:56,280 >> Okay. 96 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:00,440 And that was my question, is that it would still allow for what originally it was purchased 97 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,440 for? 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,440 >> Yes. 99 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,440 >> Okay. 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Any other questions? 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Okay. 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Thank you very much. 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Next public hearing is for MPA 240002. 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Hello. 105 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,800 >> Hi. 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:25,760 >> I don't think you've presented for us before. 107 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Hello. 108 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,760 >> Okay. 109 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Good evening, chair and commissioners. 110 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,720 My name is Sahar Smandieri. 111 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,800 I'm a senior transportation planner with transportation services division. 112 00:06:48,800 --> 00:07:00,440 This is MPA 240002B mobility plan amendment for Underwood and Amix Road. 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,080 This mobility plan amendment has two components. 114 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,020 One Underwood Road and second Amix Road. 115 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:12,500 The reason that we have both of these roads in one case today is that they are both located 116 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,960 in the vicinity of Hunter Coral Ranch development. 117 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,680 For the Underwood Road, the proposed amendment is about downgrading the functional classification 118 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:29,520 of Underwood Road from a primary arterial to a secondary arterial. 119 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:39,160 If you can follow the cursor here, the Underwood located, the final configuration of Underwood 120 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:48,360 in the mobility plan 2022 is going to be about, starts from the airport road to the north 121 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:55,520 here or FM 1515 and goes all the way to the south to the future extension of H lively 122 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,440 road. 123 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:04,800 The reason behind this request is first by reclassification or downgrading the Underwood 124 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:12,080 road to the secondary arterial, we are going to provide more efficient access to the surrounding 125 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,080 developments. 126 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Also, this road located between future loop 288 West and I-35 West freeways. 127 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Both of these freeways are better alternative for north-south traffic navigation with higher 128 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,960 speed limit and more road capacity. 129 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Second is the Amix Road. 130 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:40,280 The proposed amendment is about removing an eastern portion of future Amix Road to the 131 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:48,400 future loop of 288 West, which is highlighted here in green and red. 132 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:56,440 The reason behind this request is there is a soil conservation lake located in the south 133 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:03,360 of the target road in a very close distance to this road and by removing this portion 134 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,200 of Amix Road, we are going to prevent any environmental adverse impact. 135 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Also, the Tonko Road is located to the north side of this target road. 136 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:22,880 The Tonko Road is going to be improved and create more capacity for future traffic generated 137 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,680 in this development for the east-west traffic navigation. 138 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:34,280 After comments, approval as it complies with the following criteria for approval. 139 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,240 It is consistent with Denton 24, the comprehensive plan. 140 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,200 It further aligns with mobility plan goals and also coordinates with text out plans and 141 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,760 improves safety. 142 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Thank you. 143 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,760 >> Thank you. 144 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,760 Questions for us here? 145 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,760 Commissioner Perot. 146 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,760 >> Thank you, Chair. 147 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Just a couple of quick ones. 148 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,640 First, thank you for bringing this. 149 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,600 I'm always happy to build fewer lanes that we don't need so taxpayers aren't on the hook 150 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 to maintain them for centuries. 151 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Sorry, just trying to pick the right word there. 152 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:17,920 The Amix Road portion there, I'm not an expert here with environmental impacts of roads based 153 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,580 on the type of road or the size or that sort of thing. 154 00:10:21,580 --> 00:10:31,840 It strikes me that since that is a collector west of the Seawolf Road, why not just downgrade 155 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,440 that one in a similar way to a collector so that it doesn't carry as much traffic near 156 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,100 to an environmental area? 157 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:42,320 Why is it better to remove it? 158 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:50,280 >> Because the construction road over this lake or soil conservation lake is a problem. 159 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,640 But I can refer to my colleague to have a better answer for this question. 160 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,040 >> So it's just the fact that you're constructing anything there is a disruption? 161 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,040 >> Yes. 162 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,040 >> Okay. 163 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,520 >> So I think by -- and also because Tom Cole Road is also located in a very close distance 164 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:11,480 up to the north and it is in parallel with the target road and it also moves the traffic 165 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,680 from east to west. 166 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:20,240 Tom Cole Road would be a primary arterial with four lanes going each -- three lanes each way 167 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:27,400 and it can provide enough road capacity for the traffic generated here in future. 168 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,400 >> Okay. 169 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 >> The Amix Road right now is not existed, it's the planned road. 170 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 >> Yeah, understood. 171 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Most of these roads don't exist, so yeah. 172 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:42,120 >> Yeah, and I think to add to that, I mean, the developer would have to do that. 173 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,400 That's cost prohibitive. 174 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:51,560 I'm certain to build a road over a -- I mean, that's part of this whole consideration, I 175 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:52,560 would assume. 176 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:53,560 >> Yes. 177 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:54,560 >> Because of the hardship it would pose to -- 178 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:59,480 >> They have to build a bridge over the -- but because of the steep and like other configuration 179 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,480 -- 180 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:06,720 >> Yeah, and as I recall, the planned future land use in that area and the zoning that Hunter 181 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:13,200 Cole has is kind of industrial northeast of the loop and then it's more highway corridor 182 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,980 west of it, is that correct? 183 00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:19,980 >> Generally that's correct. 184 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:24,880 I believe this area is a mix of currently light industrial, MN, their development, they're 185 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,320 just trying to get ahead of the mobility plan hurdles with their land planning, but generally 186 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,360 it's a mix of like higher intensity residential mixed use districts and industrial in this 187 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,360 area. 188 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,360 >> Okay. 189 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Thanks. 190 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Other questions? 191 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:46,160 >> Yeah, and I assume Tom Cole will be hopefully in and running as a -- you said it's going 192 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,160 to be a primary -- 193 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,160 >> Primary arterial. 194 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,320 >> Yeah, because I mean, it's -- when you look at that, there's not a whole lot of east-west 195 00:12:52,320 --> 00:13:02,640 options as we, you know, if we eliminate Amix Road, then that limits options greatly east-west. 196 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,680 It's part of the coal range development agreement that they are going to improve the road and 197 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,960 build extra capacity for these east-west traffic movements. 198 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,720 >> And I would just add to that, as they're getting more to the fine-grained land planning, 199 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,900 we also have the flexibility within the mobility plan to request other collector roadways be 200 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:27,520 added as determined once we get down to that level of detail in their plans. 201 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,800 >> Okay. 202 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,000 Anything else? 203 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 >> Thank you very much. 204 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:42,240 >> Although I think you're up here for the next one, too, because we've got 4C MPA 240004B. 205 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:56,320 >> Again, good evening, Chair and Commissioners, Saharis Van Yeri, Senior Transportation Planner, 206 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Transportation Services Division. 207 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:07,840 This is MPA 240004B mobility plan amendment for Hummingbird Lane. 208 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:13,680 This proposed amendment is about downgrading the functional classification of a future 209 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:19,720 Hummingbird Lane section from a secondary arterial to a collector. 210 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:26,800 As you can see in this map, the Hummingbird Lane is located here in this pink road I'm 211 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,800 showing. 212 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:36,400 A mobility plan 2022, this road is a planned road and it is designated as a secondary arterial. 213 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:43,680 The eastern extension of these roads is Mills Road and it goes all the way to Trinity Road. 214 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:49,280 South of this road, we have McKinney Street and at the north, we have Russell Newman. 215 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:55,480 The reason behind this request is first, by downgrading the Hummingbird Lane from a secondary 216 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:04,160 arterial to a collector, we are going to provide a safer road for all road users such as pedestrians, 217 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,080 cyclists, and vehicle users. 218 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Also Hummingbird Lane, as a collector, can provide better access for developments that 219 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:21,000 are coming around this road to the north and south. 220 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Another main reason is that there is sufficient roadway capacity by parallel existing roads 221 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,880 such as McKinney, Mills, and Russell Newman. 222 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:38,680 They all have more capacity to move the traffic from east-west and better navigate the traffic 223 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,840 from, for example, downtown Denton to the eastern part of the town. 224 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:51,400 Therefore, it is recommended to downgrade the Hummingbird Lane to the collector road classification. 225 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Staff recommends approval as it complies with the following criteria for approval. 226 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,840 It is consistent with Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan and further aligns with mobility plan 227 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,840 goals and also improves safety. 228 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Questions? 229 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Okay. 230 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Very good. 231 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Thank you. 232 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,240 We'll see your presentation in the meeting. 233 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,240 Okay. 234 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,280 That gets us through our agenda. 235 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:30,760 So with that, I'll go ahead and adjourn our work session at 547 p.m. and we will reconvene 236 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 at 630 in council chambers. 237 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:46,680 Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for 238 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024. 239 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,760 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 630 p.m. 240 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,880 First item on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas Flags. 241 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:08,880 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for 242 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,880 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 243 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,880 Honor the Texas flag. 244 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:23,880 I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. 245 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,880 Thank you. 246 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,880 Next item on our agenda is the approval of minutes for October 9th. 247 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,760 I guess before I say that we are having technology problems, so we are going to do hand raises 248 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,880 and roll call votes. 249 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,880 Look over here to Commissioner Villarreal. 250 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,880 Move approval. 251 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Thank you, Commissioner Thaggard. 252 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,880 Okay. 253 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,880 We've got a first and a second to approve our minutes for October 9th. 254 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,880 Any discussion? 255 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Okay. 256 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,880 Let's go ahead and roll call vote. 257 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,880 Commissioner Thaggard. 258 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,880 Sorry? 259 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,880 Voting. 260 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,880 Aye. 261 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,880 Thank you. 262 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,880 At least it's that. 263 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Commissioner Villarreal. 264 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,880 Aye. 265 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,880 Commissioner Pedro. 266 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Aye. 267 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,880 Commissioner Pruitt. 268 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Aye. 269 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Chair is also an aye. 270 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:15,880 That motion will carry one, two, three, five, zero. 271 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 That will take us to items for individual consideration. 272 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,880 The first being 3A, PZ 24214. 273 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,880 That's the approval of the 2025 P&Z Commission meeting schedule for next week. 274 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,880 Angie is here, I think, to put it on the board for us. 275 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,880 I have one in there. 276 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,880 It's on this screen. 277 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Oh, there it is. 278 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,880 And there it is. 279 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,880 Yeah, we're happy to receive any feedback from the commission. 280 00:18:52,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Generally, we kept the theme of second and fourth Wednesdays of each month with adjustments, I believe, in January due to holidays and then March, July, November, December, just due to spring break and the typical holidays. 281 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,880 All right, questions? 282 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,880 And you're looking for a movement on approving that, correct? 283 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Okay, sounds great. 284 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,880 Commissioner Villarreal. 285 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,880 Move approval. 286 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,880 Do we have a second? 287 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,880 Commissioner Pedro. 288 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Second. 289 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,880 We've got a first and a second to approve the 2025 P&Z Commission calendar discussion. 290 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,880 Okay, we'll go ahead and vote by a roll call. 291 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Commissioner Thaggards. 292 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,880 Aye. 293 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,880 Commissioner Villarreal. 294 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,880 Aye. 295 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,880 Commissioner Brown. 296 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,880 Aye. 297 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,880 Commissioner Pruitt. 298 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,880 Aye. 299 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,880 Chair is an aye. 300 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,880 That motion carries 5-0. 301 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,880 That will take us to 3B, FP240038. 302 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,880 Sean is here for presentation of this item for us. 303 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,880 Good evening. 304 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,880 Hi, Sean. 305 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Good evening, Chair and members of the commission. 306 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,880 Let me get this pulled up. 307 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,880 Okay. 308 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:14,880 So this item, FP240038, is a proposed final plaque for the Home Zone Denton addition, an 309 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,880 approximately two and a half acre property at the corner of University and Ector. 310 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,880 It does not currently meet our criteria for approval. 311 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Therefore, staff is recommending denial. 312 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,880 But staff has no objection to the request for a first extension, which could be granted 313 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,880 to a date certain of November 13th, 2024. 314 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,880 Happy to answer any questions. 315 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,880 Great. 316 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,880 Thank you, Sean. 317 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Any questions for Sean? 318 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,880 Okay. 319 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,880 Thank you very much. 320 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,880 Commissioner Villarreal. 321 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,880 Move approval of the extension request to a date certain of November 13th, 2024. 322 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,880 Great. 323 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,880 Thank you. 324 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,880 Commissioner Pruitt. 325 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Second. 326 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,880 Okay. 327 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,880 We've got a first and a second to approve the extension request to a date certain of 328 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,880 November 13th, 2024 discussion. 329 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,880 Okay. 330 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,880 Let's vote via roll call. 331 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,880 Commissioner Thaggard. 332 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,880 Aye. 333 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,880 Commissioner Villarreal. 334 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Aye. 335 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,880 Commissioner Pedrone. 336 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Aye. 337 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,880 Commissioner Pruitt. 338 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,880 Aye. 339 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,880 Chair is also an aye. 340 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,880 That will carry 5-0. 341 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,880 That will take us to 3C, V240111. 342 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,880 Erin is here for presentation. 343 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,880 This item tonight. 344 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Hello. 345 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,880 Erin Stanley, Assistant Planner. 346 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,880 This is V24-000111, the Titan edition variance request. 347 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:45,880 So this site is generally located on FM 2449, about half a mile east of Florence Road, just 348 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,880 east of Ponder, in the city of Denton's ETJ Division 1. 349 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,480 The applicant is proposing to create one lot on approximately 21 acres, and this is associated 350 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,880 with a minor plot that is under review by staff currently, and can be approved if this 351 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,160 variance is approved. 352 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:13,480 And the lot is proposed to take access off FM 2449 by a 1,538-foot-long flag drive. 353 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,240 So some site details. 354 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,360 As you can see here on the right, the flag drive measured from the edge of the right-of-way 355 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:28,880 to the southern boundary of their main portion of the property is just over 1,500 feet long. 356 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,120 And I do want to point out in this middle picture some of the existing conditions around 357 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,280 the site or around the property. 358 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:41,400 So you see the two existing gas well pad sites circled here, and the arrow pointing, there's 359 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:47,480 an adjacent road just to the west of the subject property as well. 360 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,240 And the applicant is requesting the variance from the DDC requirement that the flagpole 361 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,160 portion of the lot cannot be more than 300 feet long. 362 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,800 So some considerations that staff takes into consideration. 363 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:08,380 There are four approval criteria items, the first being that if granted, the variance 364 00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:13,720 will not be detrimental to the public safety, health, or welfare of the property or adjacent 365 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,720 properties. 366 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,960 This is not approved, this is not expected to be detrimental to public safety. 367 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,120 And the county has reviewed the request and has no objection to the length of the flagpole 368 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,160 drive. 369 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,840 And the second criteria is if there are any physical surroundings that result in a hardship 370 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,300 that could warrant this variance request. 371 00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:39,480 And like I pointed out in the previous slide, the bordering gas well pad sites do limit 372 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,760 the property from purchasing adjacent land on either side to eliminate the flag-shaped 373 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,480 lot or the flagpole-shaped lot, and strict application of the subdivision regulation 374 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,800 would prevent the property from becoming developed. 375 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:01,480 The third criteria has to do with compliance with city codes, and if approved, the variance 376 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:08,200 does not vary the provisions in the 2040 comprehensive plan, the DDC, or the mobility plan, except 377 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,400 for the flagpole length that we are talking about right now. 378 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,280 And then the fourth criteria requires that the conditions did not result from any owner 379 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:24,040 action, and the current configuration of the site has been this way since the 1960s with 380 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,720 a long drive to a home that was there at that time, and the gas well pad sites were developed 381 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,400 prior to 2004. 382 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,400 So with that, staff recommends approval of this request as it complies with the criteria 383 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:44,240 for the variance approval and the debt and development code, and I'll stand for any 384 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,240 questions. 385 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,240 Thank you. 386 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Any questions? 387 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Erin, you did mention that there's that secondary drive off the flagpole. 388 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Is that just for access for the gas wells? 389 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Correct. 390 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Yeah. 391 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,440 Okay. 392 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,440 That's what I thought. 393 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Okay. 394 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Thank you. 395 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,440 See any other questions? 396 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Great. 397 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Okay, we'll entertain a motion or discussion on this item. 398 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Commissioner Perut. 399 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,080 I'll move approval. 400 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Okay. 401 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Move a second. 402 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Commissioner Perot. 403 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Second. 404 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Okay. 405 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,080 We've got a first and a second for approval. 406 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,080 Any discussion? 407 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,080 Okay. 408 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Let's go ahead and vote via roll call. 409 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Commissioner Thaggart. 410 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,840 Aye. 411 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Commissioner Villarreal. 412 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Aye. 413 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Commissioner Perot. 414 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,840 Aye. 415 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Commissioner Perut. 416 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Aye. 417 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Commissioner Villarreal. 418 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,840 Aye. 419 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680 We'll pass that motion 5-0. 420 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,320 That will take us to 3-D, PP240006. 421 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,200 Sean is here for presentation. 422 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Good evening again, Chair and members of the commission. 423 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,280 Get the presentation pulled up here. 424 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Okay. 425 00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Sean Jacobson, Associate Planner, here to present PP24-0006A, the RM squared addition. 426 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,760 This is a preliminary platform, approximately 363 acre property. 427 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:12,000 They have met all of the criteria for approval and staff is recommending approval. 428 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Happy to answer any questions. 429 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Great. 430 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Thank you, Sean. 431 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Questions for Sean on this item? 432 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Okay. 433 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Thank you very much. 434 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Any more in motion? 435 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Commissioner Perut. 436 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,600 I'll move approval. 437 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,600 Commissioner Thaggart. 438 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Second. 439 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Okay. 440 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,520 We've got a first and a second for approval of this plat. 441 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Any discussion? 442 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Okay. 443 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320 We'll vote via roll call. 444 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,320 Commissioner Thaggart. 445 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Aye. 446 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Commissioner Villarreal. 447 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Aye. 448 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Commissioner Perot. 449 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,320 Aye. 450 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Commissioner Perut. 451 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Aye. 452 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,320 Chair is an aye. 453 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,320 That will pass 5-0. 454 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,920 That will take us to our first public hearing item this evening. 455 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,280 That's 4AZ240014. 456 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,680 That is here for presentation. 457 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:04,040 I will open the public hearing. 458 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Good evening, Commission. 459 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:22,640 Matt Bodine, Assistant Planner, here to present Zoning Change Case Z24-3014 Denton Energy 460 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Center. 461 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,980 This is a request to rezone approximately 40 acres from the Rural Residential RR District 462 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:34,080 to Public Facilities PF District. 463 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,200 This piece of property is immediately south of the Denton Energy Center and west of the 464 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:47,480 airport, specifically about 3,000 feet south of Jim Crystal Road and 850 feet west of Tom 465 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,480 Cole Road. 466 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,560 This piece of property was purchased by the city in December of 2022 for the purpose of 467 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,320 developing a solid waste transfer station. 468 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,360 If this request is approved, it would allow for the development of said transfer station 469 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:11,080 and the expansion of the data center on the city owned property immediately north of the 470 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,640 subject property. 471 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,400 So listed here on the right is the general criteria for approval as well as the zoning 472 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,540 criteria for approval. 473 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:26,460 As part of this presentation, we'll just highlight how this request is consistent with the proposed 474 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:34,060 district, the Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan, will not have any adverse impacts on the surrounding 475 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:40,960 area and is due to expected change in the area as well. 476 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:48,360 So the proposed Zoning District Public Facilities is intended to provide adequate lands for public 477 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,440 and quasi-public community uses and services such as utilities. 478 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:01,400 The proposed uses on this property do meet the intent of this zoning district and both 479 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:08,680 uses the transfer station and the data center are permitted within the zoning district. 480 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,440 The future land use map designates this area as industrial commerce. 481 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:23,640 This area is intended for primarily west of I-35 and is expected to have predominant uses 482 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,640 including light and heavy industrial uses. 483 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:34,560 This proposed zoning change and development would allow uses that are more intensive in 484 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:41,160 nature and seen as compatible with the uses intended and preferred for this area and thus 485 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,480 compatible with the future land use map. 486 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,200 The proposed zoning case does advance two goals of the Denton 2040 plan. 487 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,960 The first being the land use goal to grow resourcefully, particularly through contiguous 488 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,480 and compatible development. 489 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:08,960 The zoning change would be contiguous with PF zoning in the general area, as shown on 490 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:15,680 earlier, and said uses would be compatible with the intensive uses in the area as well 491 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:22,280 as uses that are preferred to come in based on the future land use map. 492 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,780 The second goal of this zoning case advances is the infrastructure and utilities goal to 493 00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:33,640 protect public and environmental health and conserve natural resources, enhance community 494 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,520 appearance and control costs. 495 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:42,200 The Denton 2040 plan does acknowledge that Denton is expected to see significant growth 496 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:51,440 over the next 20 years and as such the solid waste department and in addition future freeway 497 00:30:51,440 --> 00:31:01,120 loop 288 is expected to bring growth, particularly in this area where this zoning case is located. 498 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:07,560 The solid waste department did note that having a transfer station in this area of West Denton 499 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,720 would allow them to manage waste material closer to its point of generation, maximize 500 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:21,360 fleet utilization, minimize costs and provide safe and cost effective diversion and disposal 501 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:27,400 of waste and thus advance city services in this area. 502 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:34,320 This zoning change request was notified according to city standards. 503 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:41,660 Staff did not receive any written responses from neighboring property owners. 504 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:45,720 Staff does recommend approval of the zoning case as it complies with the criteria in the 505 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Denton development code, but here to answer any questions. 506 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,280 Thank you, Matt. 507 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,280 Any questions at the moment? 508 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,280 Commissioner Fagerd. 509 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Thank you, Chair. 510 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Just a quick question, it's really in close vicinity to what it looks like to some university 511 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,320 land. 512 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Have we reached out? 513 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,680 I know that we had reached out to folks in the area, but have we reached out to the university 514 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,360 to see if they have any plans for their land there? 515 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120 We did not reach out to UNT University. 516 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:19,560 That is a field research station, so intent is used. 517 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,640 Okay. 518 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720 Anything else for Matt? 519 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Okay. 520 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,920 This is a public hearing. 521 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,720 I don't have any cards in front of me on this item, but is there anyone here wishing to 522 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,200 speak and you can fill a card out later? 523 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200 Okay. 524 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:44,980 Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for motion or discussion. 525 00:32:44,980 --> 00:32:45,980 Commissioner Villarreal. 526 00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:46,980 I'll move approval. 527 00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:47,980 Okay. 528 00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:50,860 Got a first for approval. 529 00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:51,860 Commissioner Pruitt. 530 00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:55,480 Okay, we've got a first and a second. 531 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,480 Second. 532 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,480 Sorry. 533 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Yeah. 534 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Got a first and a second for approval. 535 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Is there any discussion? 536 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,480 Okay. 537 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Before, I'm just going to give a few thoughts just before we vote just because I have a 538 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000 few thoughts. 539 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Just for the reason that this is coming forward so quick, and I totally understand the request 540 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,080 and I'm totally in agreement with the request and why we're doing it, but why we're doing 541 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:30,400 it as for the expansion of the data warehouse and eventually the solid waste component. 542 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,720 I had thoughts on data warehouses when we discussed it years ago at DCRC when we were 543 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,600 first coming up with the definition and putting it as a use. 544 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,360 I just want to put some thoughts out there mainly for council, but also for staff, particularly 545 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,520 economic development. 546 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:55,680 It's just knowing that there's huge energy sucks, huge consumers of energy. 547 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,280 Knowing that the industry is doing nothing but growing, AI is not going anywhere. 548 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,400 We know that there's just going to be more and more of these requests going forward. 549 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:11,280 I just want to make sure that we have some policy in place as these come forward and 550 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,200 we can get some focus because we want to make sure that as we're making these decisions 551 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:24,080 that seem really, really good on one end, that we're not circumventing something else 552 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,880 that is policy focus for our city. 553 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,040 I just want to put that food for thought out there because I think it's important. 554 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,680 I think this is just, I'm sure, one of many that we're going to continue to see out here. 555 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:44,120 I think we just need to think about it so that we've got some clarity on it as we revisit 556 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,720 these future requests. 557 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:50,640 With that being said, is there any other discussion, thoughts? 558 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,360 Okay, let's go ahead and vote. 559 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,360 Commissioner Thaggard. 560 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Aye. 561 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,360 Commissioner Villarreal. 562 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Aye. 563 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,360 Commissioner Fadrone. 564 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Aye. 565 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,360 Commissioner Pruitt. 566 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,360 Aye. 567 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,360 Chair, is an aye. 568 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,760 That will carry 5-0. 569 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:14,440 That will take us to public hearing 4B, MPA 240002. 570 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:20,480 That public hearing was opened at our meeting on October 9th and left open. 571 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:43,920 So with that, I'll go ahead and invite Sahar here for presentation. 572 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,720 Good evening, Chairs and Commissioners. 573 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:53,400 This is Sahar Svahn-Yuri, Senior Transportation Planner, Transportation Services Division. 574 00:35:53,400 --> 00:36:05,240 This is MPA 24-0002B Mobility Plan Amendment for Underwood and AMEX Road. 575 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:12,240 This Mobility Plan Amendment has two components, first Underwood Road and then AMEX Road. 576 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:18,920 The reason that we have these roads together in one case today is that they are both located 577 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,000 in the vicinity of Hunter Coe Ranch development. 578 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 So first Underwood Road. 579 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,720 The proposed amendment is to downgrade the functional classification of Underwood Road 580 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,360 from a primary arterial to a secondary arterial. 581 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,160 Second is the AMEX Road. 582 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,680 The proposed amendment is to remove an eastern portion of a future AMEX Road to the future 583 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,960 loop 288 West. 584 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,880 So I will start with the Underwood Road. 585 00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:01,800 As you can see in the map, the Underwood Road, the final configuration in the Mobility Plan 586 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,120 2022 is located within this pink loop. 587 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:15,240 The current Hummingbird Lane, the current Underwood is located between Springside and 588 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:23,680 the intersection of John Payne and 2449 into the south. 589 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:31,640 The final configuration of the Underwood Road will be Airport Road or FM 1515 on the north 590 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:38,380 side and it goes all the way down to the intersection of the road and the future H 591 00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:44,200 Lively Road. 592 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:58,080 The future Underwood Road will be located between future loop 288 West and I-35 West. 593 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:08,240 The proposal is to downgrade the roadway classification from a primary arterial to the secondary arterial. 594 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,920 As you can see in this chart, there is a comparison between the primary arterial and secondary 595 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,440 arterial. 596 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:22,240 The most important aspect of it is a secondary arterial, we are going to have a typical speed 597 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:32,320 of 35 to 40 miles per hour and it will also have a narrower width of the road. 598 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:39,200 By downgrading the road to the secondary arterial, the road will provide better access to the 599 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,160 surrounding area and it will be more suitable for the moderate traffic volume generated 600 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,880 in this area and also we are going to provide safer road for all road users. 601 00:38:51,880 --> 00:39:01,240 Another main reason for this request is that the future loop 288 and I-30 West are freeways 602 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:08,040 and there are better alternatives to navigate the north-south traffic with higher speed 603 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:14,680 limits and more road capacity. 604 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,480 This proposed amendment has met all approval criteria. 605 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:25,280 Referring to the future land use and mobility plan, there is going to be the future loop 606 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:32,960 288 West soon in the area and it's going to carry out the north-south traffic with 607 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920 more capacity and higher speed. 608 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,400 Also the mixed use neighbourhoods in the area can have a better access. 609 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,760 This downgrading classification to the secondary arterial will provide sufficient service to 610 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,880 medium-sized trip generators. 611 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:58,620 Also it will distribute travel to small geographic areas. 612 00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:01,440 Now I'm going to talk about AMEX Road. 613 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:08,960 As you can see in this map, the target road is located within the teal loop. 614 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:17,680 Based on the mobility plan 2022, the future AMEX Road will be located on the terminus 615 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,580 of Seawolf Road and loop 288. 616 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:28,720 Also there is a soil conservation lake located at a short distance of the road. 617 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:34,680 There is a Tom Cole Road located just north of the target road and it is also navigate 618 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,380 the east-west traffic in the area. 619 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:48,440 The reason behind this proposal is first prevent any adverse environmental impact. 620 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:55,480 This soil conservation lake is identified as a female floodplain and environmental sensitive 621 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,760 area that are associated with this lake. 622 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,080 Also co-range development will increase the Tom Cole Road capacity to offset the removal 623 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:15,680 of a portion of the AMEX Road and provide efficient east-west traffic movement. 624 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,040 This proposed amendment has met all the approval criteria and referring to the future land 625 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:29,080 use and mobility plan, removing this portion of AMEX Road will prevent any future adverse 626 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:35,800 environmental impact and will provide safe traffic by avoiding the floodplain area. 627 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,040 Also it will avoid any unnecessary road construction in the area. 628 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:51,720 Tom Cole Road will be provide sufficient capacity and safer traffic flow for all road users. 629 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:59,520 According to the DDC regulation, the public outreach requirement has been met. 630 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,920 We had newspaper ad, website announcement and property signs. 631 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:13,040 And also we have mailed public notices and courtesy notices to the property owners in 632 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,660 200 feet and 500 feet buffer around the roads, the target roads. 633 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:25,520 We have not received any responses in opposition or in favor of this request. 634 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,920 We have received one question from adjacent property owner by email that has been responded 635 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,420 by staff. 636 00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:37,720 Also today we have received a phone call from a resident that has some concerns about the 637 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:43,200 underwood road and she mentioned that she is going to be here today to express her concerns 638 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,640 about this road. 639 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,480 African-Americans approval of the proposal as it complies with the criteria in section 640 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,320 two of the DDC for approval of a comprehensive plan amendment. 641 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:05,680 Next steps will be a public hearing at City Council on November 19, 2024. 642 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,680 Thank you. 643 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,680 Thank you. 644 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,680 Do we have questions for Sahar at this time? 645 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,680 Commission approved. 646 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,680 Thank you, Chair. 647 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:18,280 I wonder just sometimes we get layered in terminology here and as the public comes and some of the 648 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:27,560 newer members on this commission are here, could you explain briefly the trade-off and 649 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,320 difference between you mentioned access and better access versus higher speed and throughput 650 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,080 and why those goals are not achievable simultaneously? 651 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,680 Does that make sense? 652 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Sure. 653 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,880 I'm referring to my colleague to answer this question. 654 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,880 Okay. 655 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,880 Thank you. 656 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:54,280 Good evening, Commission, Chandra, City Traffic Engineer, Transportation Services. 657 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:01,680 So when you have a primary arterial, the spacing criteria per hour transportation is 400 feet. 658 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,920 When you have a secondary arterial, it shrinks to 200 feet, so when you reduce the designation, 659 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,480 you could provide more access for the adjacent land users. 660 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:18,520 So in that way, if any developments come in, we would be able to permit driveways without 661 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,480 any variances. 662 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:28,760 And this specific development, now with Loop 288 West, will be built with frontage roads 663 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,960 and the 35W on the eastern side also will have frontage roads in the future. 664 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,760 And Loop 288, although it's been there for 40 years, but now it has legs. 665 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:47,760 Finally, TechStart is building it soon, so this will carry a lot more traffic and reducing 666 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:55,520 this primary arterial to secondary will not affect any capacity issues. 667 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,520 Thank you. 668 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,520 Thank you, Chandra. 669 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,720 Any other questions for staff at this time? 670 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,160 Okay. 671 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,160 This is a public hearing. 672 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,280 I do have one card in front of me at the moment. 673 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:15,720 It's Kelly Holtzclaw, if you'll come up here and give us your name, your time will begin. 674 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:17,520 It says here you're speaking for a group. 675 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,520 Yes, ma'am. 676 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,520 Okay. 677 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,520 All of my neighbors that have been my neighbors for pretty much my entire life because I've 678 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680 lived down under Wood Road my entire life. 679 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:37,680 I have lots of questions because it's my road, so Kelly Holtzclaw. 680 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,480 So will the road still be two lanes is one question. 681 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,880 Will there be a sidewalk? 682 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,320 Is it going to encroach on any of our properties because if the road's going to get bigger 683 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,880 or there's going to be a sidewalk, I would assume that it's going to either encroach 684 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:03,720 on our property or to the west and curious about that. 685 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:09,480 And then with Underwood Road coming from Airport Road all the way down. 686 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:15,160 So there's lots of trees in that field and I see deer all the time and stuff like that. 687 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,760 Are the trees going to get replaced? 688 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:26,840 Are more trees planted because I'm sure that all the trees on the other side of our road, 689 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,160 it's going to be torn down. 690 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:35,320 So that concerns me because trees are important. 691 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:42,080 Is one of the reasons why it's being extended from Airport Road all the way down instead 692 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:49,480 of just using West Court because of all the trucks that block all the traffic every single 693 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,920 day that I call the city about because you have to try to sneak around them without getting 694 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,920 hit. 695 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,280 And the city or the cops say they can't do anything because all they can do is a warning. 696 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:06,160 Sorry, that's a whole nother issue. 697 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,280 And I'm still not sure what a secondary arterial road is. 698 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,320 If it's going to increase to 35 to 40 miles an hour because currently it's 30 miles an 699 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:23,480 hour, I mean, cars already hauled butt down that road, are 18-wheelers going to be allowed 700 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:30,720 to go down that road because right now they're not, or they're not supposed to, they do anyway. 701 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:31,720 That's my questions. 702 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:33,920 Do you all have anything else to ask? 703 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:40,760 Oh yeah, and the timeline on it, that would be helpful. 704 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,200 And I did not respond to the letter, well, I came to the meeting last week but read on 705 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,840 the paper that said it was going to be postponed until today. 706 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,240 So that's why I'm back today. 707 00:47:50,240 --> 00:48:01,880 I did not email because I'd rather just come here and talk about it. 708 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:09,120 I think the letters are just, whoever it affected on Underwood, since you guys are on Springside 709 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,320 Corbin, then it's further back than the recommended. 710 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640 Yeah, it has to do with proximity to what we're talking about. 711 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,840 And since Corbin is closed, they have to come down through that way anyway. 712 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,200 And why not reopen Corbin? 713 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,120 That would make a lot of sense because it's already a road and you don't have to turn 714 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640 on all the trees. 715 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,640 That's my questions. 716 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,640 Thank you. 717 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,280 We'll see what we can clarify for you, Kelly. 718 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,440 Thank you very much for coming out to speak. 719 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:46,200 Okay, so let's see who wants to take, I guess, some of these questions that I will put out 720 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,700 so that I can get Ms. Kelly's questions answered. 721 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:57,920 So maybe a little more explanation, again, of what this road is going to be. 722 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:05,800 So Underwood Road as such, with the 2022 mobility plan, it was upgraded to a primary arterial. 723 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:14,180 That used to be a secondary arterial back from the 2015 mobility plan, but we are trying 724 00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:22,400 to lower it back to the secondary arterial due to loop 288 widening and 35W widening 725 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,740 with frontage roads. 726 00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:29,360 So we see the capacities are well balanced with the new roadways. 727 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,120 So with the secondary arterial designation, if approved tonight, it will reduce from 135 728 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,980 feet right of way to 110 feet right of way, which is a smaller section than what it is 729 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:43,200 currently approved for. 730 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,280 And eventually, these roads are built by the development as it happens, and it will have 731 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,280 sidewalks. 732 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,880 It will be a four-lane roadway, currently it's a two-lane, and it will have sidewalks 733 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,960 on both sides. 734 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,100 And the speeds would be 35 miles, and depending on the geometry conditions, how it's built, 735 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:13,140 it could go as high as 40, but 35 is the ideal we try to target it for. 736 00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:16,640 And then the timeline on it, you said, is going to go as development happens, correct? 737 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,200 As development happens. 738 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,640 Because, yeah, then developers will be in charge of? 739 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,920 Building their portions as a perimeter improvement. 740 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:31,240 As it happens, okay, okay, future timeline, okay. 741 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,160 And then I would probably ask that if you haven't already, well, you already have an 742 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,160 email and communication, so maybe to be able to answer more specific questions you could 743 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:47,480 get with Kelly and be able to answer more specific to her property and her property 744 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,480 needs. 745 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,480 Sure. 746 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,480 That would be awesome. 747 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,480 Chandra, thank you. 748 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,480 Okay. 749 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,480 This is a public hearing. 750 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,420 I don't have any other cards in front of me. 751 00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:57,680 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 752 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,680 I have a question, but I don't know how to ask it. 753 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,680 You can come on up. 754 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,000 It's a public hearing. 755 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,280 You're welcome to ask it. 756 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,480 We'll see if we can get you an answer. 757 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,480 Will you give us your name, please? 758 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,320 Can you go -- Barbara Whitworth. 759 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,320 Thank you, Barbara. 760 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,320 Could you go back to the picture? 761 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,320 Which one? 762 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,320 The one of Corbin Road and Underwood. 763 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,320 Like this one? 764 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,320 Yes. 765 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,320 Okay. 766 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320 There's a green line. 767 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,320 I'm on Corbin Road at the very -- right there is where I am. 768 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:33,420 There's a green dotted line that's going to cross there. 769 00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:34,420 What is that? 770 00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:35,420 Here. 771 00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:36,420 This green dotted line right here. 772 00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:37,420 Right there. 773 00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:40,720 This is -- you're referring to this future land? 774 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:41,720 Yes. 775 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:49,960 So dotted green line, which means this is a planned road and it has not existed yet. 776 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,840 No, I know it's not because I live there and there's no road there. 777 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,840 Okay. 778 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,840 And that's going through -- 779 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,840 To the properties? 780 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,320 Through our properties, yes. 781 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:06,000 So is -- will we be notified when that's going to happen or are we going to be notified at 782 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000 all? 783 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,000 Okay. 784 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,000 I'm going to refer to my colleague. 785 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,000 Okay. 786 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,840 And I think Haley has some information as well. 787 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:12,840 Yes. 788 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,720 So I think there may be some general confusion. 789 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,320 So the map that we're looking at here on the screen is the city's long-term mobility plan. 790 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,920 So we're talking 20-, 30-year timeframe. 791 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,280 These roads that are shown on here as future roadways get built as development occurs. 792 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,040 So it's not that these are roads the city's planning to come acquire your property and 793 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,040 build tomorrow. 794 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,440 It's -- if you were to sell your property -- 795 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,440 But there's flags out there already. 796 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,440 We're seeing flags on -- 797 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,560 It's possible for survey work that's being done or something of that sort. 798 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,560 The city has no imminent plans to construct any of these roadways. 799 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,480 So underwood, the portion that is possibly going to be built in the near future is what 800 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,020 would be within the coal ranch development, not the portion that goes all the way up to 801 00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:54,160 Airport Road or Springside Road where you all are living. 802 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,920 That would be -- in the future, if you sell your property and someone comes to develop 803 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,900 it, they would be responsible for then extending the roadway up as far as that property goes. 804 00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:07,440 So the proposal before you today is not affecting your property in any way. 805 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,760 If enough pieces of it got built that the city needed to someday come in and connect 806 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,100 the missing links, that would have to be approved through a bond as a capital project or something 807 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,560 of that nature for the city to even fund that. 808 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:25,540 And you all would be engaged in that discussion at that time for the city to pay you the appropriate 809 00:53:25,540 --> 00:53:27,720 amount for your land for that to occur. 810 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,820 If that was even quite clear. 811 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:31,520 Yes, if that were to occur. 812 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,680 Currently, to my knowledge, there's no capital plans for any of these roadways in this area. 813 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,680 Okay. 814 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,680 Yeah. 815 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,800 Well, we heard this several years ago, and then I'm seeing the map with the broken lines. 816 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,800 Yes, ma'am. 817 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,000 This is just an amendment to that plan that was adopted in 2022. 818 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,400 So every few years we go through updates and just assess what future plans we might need 819 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,400 to change. 820 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,400 Okay. 821 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,400 Okay. 822 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,400 Just checking to make for sure. 823 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,400 Absolutely. 824 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,400 Cutting my property back. 825 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,400 Of course. 826 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,400 Yes, ma'am. 827 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,400 Happy to help. 828 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,400 Okay. 829 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,400 Thank you. 830 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,400 Yeah. 831 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,040 And no, people here in the city are happy to help with any specific questions too as it 832 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,040 relates to you. 833 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,040 Yeah. 834 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,080 So I know this can get very confusing when you look at it. 835 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,200 It's just the city has to have a plan. 836 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,520 It has to have an idea of how roads are going to get connected. 837 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:22,880 It doesn't mean that this is actually going to happen or even when it's going to happen, 838 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:29,160 but it has to be on some kind of a guiding document so as things happen, as property 839 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:37,640 sells, as development occurs, there is the plan of what the roadway connection will be. 840 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,600 So again, a public hearing is still open. 841 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,880 Is there anyone else wishing to speak? 842 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,160 Who hasn't already? 843 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,160 Okay. 844 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:51,840 I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and I'll open the floor for a motion or discussion. 845 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,840 Questions? 846 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,840 Commissioner Pedro? 847 00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:00,960 I just have a question for the member of public that spoke first regarding your understanding 848 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,080 of a primary arterial or secondary arterial road. 849 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:11,560 I just want to make sure that the definition provided is something that you understood. 850 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:18,520 Okay. 851 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,800 So my request is that in the communication with the public that that's also included 852 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,280 for the definition so it is understood. 853 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,680 I think sometimes we use very technical and heavy language and it's difficult sometimes 854 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,680 to understand. 855 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,400 You're making decisions or you're trying to process information with limited understanding. 856 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:42,260 So if we can include that in the communication as well that would be helpful. 857 00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:43,680 Commissioner Villarreal, I think I saw your hand up. 858 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,680 Did you have a question? 859 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,680 Yes, Chair. 860 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,680 Thank you. 861 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,840 Just for the community group here, did those answers help alleviate concerns about this 862 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,480 vote specifically at the very least or how are y'all feeling now? 863 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,200 I still don't know if the road's going to encroach on my property or if they're going 864 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,200 to reach me. 865 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,720 Yeah, we can't have discussion back and forth without a microphone or anything like that. 866 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,620 So better not to engage like as a group out there. 867 00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:11,240 But if you want to have some thoughts that'd be fine. 868 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:12,240 No, it's all good. 869 00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,240 Call one up. 870 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:14,240 Okay. 871 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:15,240 Commissioner Prud? 872 00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:16,240 Thank you, Chair. 873 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,240 Yeah. 874 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:18,240 I'll move approval. 875 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:27,860 I have a couple of thoughts and thanks to staff on this. 876 00:56:27,860 --> 00:56:31,040 These amendments are always very confusing. 877 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:37,600 Trust me, we took what, eight or nine months going through this mobility plan update in 878 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,600 2022. 879 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:47,360 And at various stages we had, you know, a collation of dozens of questions from us and 880 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,960 from council members during that process. 881 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,680 I'll let staff correct me if I'm wrong, I just want to make sure we're all on the same 882 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,680 page. 883 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:02,160 That the current mobility plan calls for these two roadways to be potentially wider than 884 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,160 four lanes. 885 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:10,280 And so this amendment says we actually don't need them that wide. 886 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:16,240 And so I'm happy to move approval for this because I'm told there are things I can say 887 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,120 that staff can't say. 888 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:29,660 My opinion is that the drawing of primary arterials on the mobility plan in some cases 889 00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:39,240 can be a desire to put things on the 10 year CIP so that the, and I'm sorry, this is going 890 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:47,880 to get terminology wise but essentially put things in a plan so that fees that we collect 891 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:57,920 from development are higher and therefore it doesn't immediately impact the tax burden 892 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,600 for bonds and other ways of building these roads in the near term future. 893 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:09,560 However, if we forget to go back and reassess as staff is doing here, we end up building 894 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,440 miles of lanes of concrete that we don't really need. 895 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:20,040 And then that causes the entire city to have to maintain and rebuild those when they fail, 896 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,360 which is much more expensive in the long term. 897 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:29,840 So I'm happy to move approval and just thank staff for continuing to look at this plan 898 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,720 as we go forward. 899 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,720 Thank you, Commissioner Pruitt. 900 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,300 We've got a first for approval. 901 00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,300 Commissioner Thaggard? 902 00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:38,300 I second. 903 00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:39,300 Okay. 904 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:41,080 We've got a first and a second for approval. 905 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,080 Any discussion? 906 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,080 Yeah. 907 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000 And I'll just echo a few thoughts from Commissioner Pruitt. 908 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,160 Yeah, this is actually a really, a great look at this plan as we had. 909 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,640 It downgrades Underwood as it was originally planned. 910 00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,320 It removes Amex Road altogether from that not happening in that environmentally sensitive 911 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,960 area being touched. 912 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,080 So it's very, it was a good thought for staff to have this amendment. 913 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,280 Yes, it gets confusing. 914 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:15,320 Yes, it's hard to understand when these things are way out before us in the future with truly 915 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,680 no plan for it to, any kind of timeline for it to happen. 916 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:26,920 But can't plan a city going forward without having a plan and mobility plan is definitely 917 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,920 part of that. 918 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:34,600 So very important and I think the amendment is certainly worthy of support. 919 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,600 Any other discussion? 920 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,600 Okay. 921 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,880 We'll go ahead and take a roll call vote then. 922 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,880 Commissioner Thaggard? 923 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,880 Aye. 924 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,880 Commissioner Villarreal? 925 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,880 Aye. 926 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:44,880 Commissioner Pedrone? 927 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,880 Aye. 928 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,880 Commissioner Pruitt? 929 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,880 Aye. 930 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,880 Chair is an aye. 931 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,120 That will carry five zero. 932 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:57,300 That will take us to item 4C, MPA 240004. 933 00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:00,800 Sahar is here for presentation of that item as well. 934 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,500 That also was opened at our 10/9 meeting. 935 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,800 That public hearing was opened and it was left open. 936 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:17,440 So I'll go ahead and turn it over to you for presentation. 937 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:23,680 Good evening chair and commissioners, Sahar Svendiri, senior transportation planner, transportation 938 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,040 services division. 939 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:40,320 This is MPA 24-0004B mobility plan amendment for Hummingbird Lane. 940 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:48,800 The proposed amendment for this case is to downgrade the roadway classification of Hummingbird 941 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,320 Lane from a secondary arterial to a collector. 942 01:00:53,320 --> 01:01:01,280 So some background about what's happening in this area and I'm trying to use some, not 943 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,760 use very technical words here. 944 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:11,860 So it's kind of related some of the wording to my other amendment. 945 01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:20,120 So currently, today, the Hummingbird Lane is existed on the west side of the loop 288 946 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,220 and it is identified as a residential road. 947 01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:35,140 For mobility plan 2022, the Hummingbird Lane is identified as a secondary arterial that 948 01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:42,760 extend across loop 288 and goes all the way to the Mehe Road. 949 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:49,160 And also it will continue to the Mills Road and the Mills Road goes all the way to the 950 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,720 Trinity. 951 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:58,200 Also we have McKinney Street here south of the Hummingbird Lane and we have Russell Newman 952 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:07,480 Road and Prominence Road as parallel roads on north side of the Hummingbird Lane. 953 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:13,560 So the proposed amendment is to downgrade the Hummingbird Lane classification. 954 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:21,920 In the chart here, you can see the comparison between a collector road and a secondary arterial. 955 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,620 The most important aspect of it is that with the collector, we are going to have a typical 956 01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:32,760 speed limits of 30 to 35 miles per hour. 957 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:38,720 And we are going to have a narrower width of the road which is going to be 65 feet whereas 958 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,960 it's going to be 110 in a secondary arterial. 959 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:49,800 By reducing the roadway classification of Hummingbird Lane to a collector, we are going 960 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:56,600 to provide a safer road for all road users with lower speed limit and also because it's 961 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:04,760 going through the community mixed use development, we are going to have a safer passage for everybody. 962 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:12,320 Also because of the short length of the road which is about 0.3 miles, it can better function 963 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:19,240 as a transition road between the local roads to the adjacent secondary and primary arterial. 964 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:24,960 I am referring to the McKinney Street as a secondary arterial and Loop 288 and May Hill 965 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,840 as a primary. 966 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:34,500 Also by reducing the road classification, the Hummingbird Lane will provide more access 967 01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:39,160 to the businesses and other land uses in the surrounding area. 968 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:44,920 The shaded pink area here is identified as a community mixed use land use. 969 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:51,680 Therefore, it can provide better access to these upcoming developments here. 970 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,480 Another main reason for this reclassification is the McKinney Street. 971 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:02,560 McKinney Street is a better alternative due to the proximity of this road to the Hummingbird 972 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:08,040 Lane and the length of the road and also the width of the road which is currently four 973 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,020 lanes with one central lane for turns. 974 01:04:12,020 --> 01:04:18,440 It can better navigate the traffic from east to west and for example, it can collect the 975 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:25,140 traffic from downtown Denton and move it to the eastern side of the city. 976 01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:29,280 This request has met all the approval criteria. 977 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:37,140 Referring to the future land use and the mobility plan, this reduction in the road classification 978 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:44,360 will allow a lower speed limit for short distance trip generators and it will provide safer 979 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,960 access opportunities for all roadway users. 980 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:55,920 Also downgrading the roadway classification aligns with the multimodal and Vision Zero 981 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,540 plans and also the context sensitive design. 982 01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:08,160 In accordance to the DDC regulation, the public outreach requirement has been met. 983 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:13,400 We had news prepare advertisement, website announcement and property signs. 984 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:20,720 We have also sent mail for the public notices and courtesy notices to the all property owners 985 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:26,220 in 200 feet and 500 feet buffer around the target road. 986 01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:33,900 We have received no responses in opposition or in favor of these requests. 987 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:39,040 Staff recommends approval of the proposal as it complies with the criteria in Section 988 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,960 2 of the DDC for approval of a comprehensive plan amendment. 989 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:50,900 Next step will be a public hearing at City Council on November 19, 2024. 990 01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:51,900 Thank you. 991 01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:56,880 Any questions? 992 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,160 Thank you very much. 993 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,720 I don't have any cards in front of me on this item. 994 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,720 This is a public hearing. 995 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:07,120 Is there anyone wishing to speak on this item? 996 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,680 Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for a motion 997 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:12,680 or discussion. 998 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,680 Commissioner Pruitt. 999 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,680 Thank you, Chair. 1000 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:19,320 I'll move approval for the same reasons of fiscal responsibility and safety in the previous 1001 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,320 item. 1002 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,080 Thank you. 1003 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,080 Commissioner Padrone. 1004 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,080 I second. 1005 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,080 Okay. 1006 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,080 We've got a first and a second for approval. 1007 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,080 Any discussion? 1008 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,080 Okay. 1009 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,760 Let's take roll call vote. 1010 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,760 Commissioner Thaggart. 1011 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,760 Aye. 1012 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,760 Commissioner Villarreal. 1013 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,760 Aye. 1014 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:36,760 Commissioner Padrone. 1015 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,760 Aye. 1016 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,760 Commissioner Pruitt. 1017 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:39,760 Aye. 1018 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,120 Chair is also an aye. 1019 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,800 That motion carries 5-0. 1020 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,440 That will take us to our Planning and Zoning Commission matrix and I will turn that over 1021 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,720 to Haley. 1022 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:51,720 Good evening. 1023 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:57,440 Yes, related to the matrix, we did add the request from the previous meeting regarding 1024 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,480 trail connectivity. 1025 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,360 So please let us know if we didn't capture that in summary correctly. 1026 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,680 And we do have several items, just so you all know, looking forward at our next meeting 1027 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,560 that will hopefully be addressed related to parks as well as multifamily data. 1028 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,600 So we'll expect all of those work session items at our next meeting. 1029 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,960 With respect to recent council items, at the October 15th meeting we had a handful of items 1030 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,860 that you all had previously seen that were approved. 1031 01:07:24,860 --> 01:07:31,560 We had the PD for the Villages of McKinney that was approved as well as the Jefferson 1032 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,940 North Elm, the multifamily at the Evers property also approved as well as the code amendments 1033 01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:39,140 related to housing incentives. 1034 01:07:39,140 --> 01:07:43,080 Those three items seem to all pair well in discussion and kind of carried each other 1035 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,920 across the finish line it seemed. 1036 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,800 And then recently, just at last night's meeting, if you were watching, we finally had success 1037 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:56,120 with our short-term rental code amendments after almost two years of work on Angie's 1038 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,120 part. 1039 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,180 So kudos to her for carrying that one across the finish line last night. 1040 01:08:01,180 --> 01:08:05,200 And then the two alternative ESAs that you all saw recently were also approved at last 1041 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:10,800 night's meeting and happy to add anything else that you all may have to the matrix. 1042 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,800 Any additions to matrix? 1043 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,220 Okay, thank you. 1044 01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:17,960 Any concluding items? 1045 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,920 Commissioner Villarreal. 1046 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,000 Early voting continues tomorrow through November 1st. 1047 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,880 You can vote anywhere in Denton County during early voting, not on election day, so go out 1048 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,360 and vote early so you can go vote anywhere in the county. 1049 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,360 Thank you. 1050 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,360 Thank you. 1051 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,360 Any other concluding items? 1052 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,360 Okay. 1053 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:41,080 With that, I'll go ahead and close our meeting at 722 p.m. 1054 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,000 Thank you very much, everyone.