WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.640 Okay, it is 9 o'clock and we have a quorum, so I'll call to order the Public Utilities 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:14.120 Board for the City of Denton on Monday, September 9th, 2024. 00:00:14.120 --> 00:00:16.920 Were there any presentations requested, Cassie? 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:17.920 No? 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:18.920 All right. 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:20.720 Then we'll go into Consent Agenda. 00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:24.440 Does a board member wish to pull any items on the Consent Agenda? 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:25.440 Mr. Rybeck? 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.240 I'd like to pull items A and B. 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:31.120 Okay, any others? 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:33.720 All right. 00:00:33.720 --> 00:00:39.280 Then do we have a motion to approve items C through F? 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.360 Mr. Reiner and Pluck seconds. 00:00:41.360 --> 00:00:43.400 All in favor say aye. 00:00:43.400 --> 00:00:44.400 Aye. 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:45.400 Motion carries. 00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:50.660 Item A. And just as a reminder, if you ever have questions, just go ahead and contact 00:00:50.660 --> 00:00:55.760 Tony and let him know what the question is so that the staff can be better prepared. 00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:56.760 Good morning. 00:00:56.760 --> 00:01:08.520 Sheldon Gatewood, Construction Project Manager with Capital Projects. 00:01:08.520 --> 00:01:13.560 So this plan maintenance turned into an emergency repair? 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:14.560 Is that correct? 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:15.560 That's wrong, sir. 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:16.560 I'm sorry? 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:17.560 Item A is... 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:18.560 It's going to be... 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:19.560 It's the road project. 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:20.560 Oh, that's a road project. 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:21.560 Oh, my apologies. 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:22.560 Oh, you're fine. 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:23.560 I was like... 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.640 I took my glasses off. 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.280 That was a mistake. 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:30.280 The road project. 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:35.800 So is this road project one that's part of the ongoing master plan for our road work 00:01:35.800 --> 00:01:37.600 or is it something new and different? 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:38.960 It's something new and different. 00:01:38.960 --> 00:01:39.960 Okay. 00:01:39.960 --> 00:01:43.000 And what is the origin of the project? 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.320 Basically the origin of the project is from when utilities went in, did their upgrades 00:01:47.320 --> 00:01:51.920 and then Atmos went in, did their upgrades and then they brought the OCI's ratings on 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:53.680 the street a little bit. 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:54.680 I'm sorry. 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:55.680 OCI? 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:56.680 Yes. 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:57.680 That's the... 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.360 Basically, the rating standards that street uses to warrant it for a new reconstruction, 00:02:02.360 --> 00:02:05.280 milling, overlay, micro-silling on any type of street. 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:10.320 So it brought the OCI low enough to warrant it a full street reconstruction. 00:02:10.320 --> 00:02:11.320 Okay. 00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:16.360 So this reconstruction project was really driven by all this other utility work? 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:17.360 Correct. 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:18.360 Okay. 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:23.080 What we weren't expecting in our overall plan for the roads for this to occur? 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:24.080 Correct. 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.680 Well, that's interesting. 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:34.080 In that case, why were we unprepared for it in terms of our planning if we knew all this 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.200 utility work was going to take place? 00:02:36.200 --> 00:02:41.080 It was mainly for those external factors as far as franchise utilities getting in there 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:45.680 at the same time of when public utilities went in there because it simply is just going 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:51.320 to be those permanent trench repairs that you see on any type of water utility, sewer 00:02:51.320 --> 00:02:52.560 utility project. 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:57.160 But seeing the Atmos went in at the same time, it basically degraded the street a little 00:02:57.160 --> 00:03:02.560 bit more than was already sought after as far as utilities going in there. 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.560 Is it unusual for multiple utilities to do their work at the same time or is that typically 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:08.760 preferable? 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:12.960 It's preferable for most utilities to do their work at the same time, but we still have those 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:19.240 external factors as far as Atmos, they have a iron pipe that needs to be upgraded to something 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.680 that poly or a low pressure system that needs to be upgraded to an intramarine pressure 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.000 system. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:29.880 It's unforeseeable as far as what their plans have in the future, but once they do come, 00:03:29.880 --> 00:03:31.680 we have to adapt. 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.240 So because they were changing out the line to a different material, was their work therefore 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:36.240 more extensive? 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:37.240 Yes, sir. 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:42.840 So whenever they're changing out for new materials, say if they're going to low pressure to IP, 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:47.800 they have to dig back to a certain extent and of course install a testing station. 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:52.320 That way they can adapt to the new feed because it's a different technology that they use 00:03:52.320 --> 00:03:56.520 from having their older models to newer models, basically. 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:57.520 Okay. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.960 Well, I don't have any other questions. 00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:00.960 Thank you. 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:01.960 Awesome. 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:02.960 Thank you. 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:03.960 Go ahead. 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:04.960 Go ahead. 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:05.960 Thank you. 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:12.680 So I live over there and once they found out that I was on this committee at Crosshairs, 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:18.440 so the question is, do you have a projected timeframe when all this will be done and they'll 00:04:18.440 --> 00:04:20.480 be back to normal streets? 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:25.880 So once we're given a notice to proceed for once to go to City Council next week, I plan 00:04:25.880 --> 00:04:31.080 to have Texas been in there, hopefully within next month getting a rock and rolling, no 00:04:31.080 --> 00:04:34.920 longer than 180 days from when their contract starts. 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:36.440 So they're going to be on top of it. 00:04:36.440 --> 00:04:37.440 That'd be great. 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:38.440 Yes, sir. 00:04:38.440 --> 00:04:39.440 Thank you. 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:43.160 Where do the funds come from? 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:44.560 Utilities. 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:45.560 From utilities? 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:46.560 Yes, sir. 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:47.560 Okay. 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.720 All the funds on this project come from utilities? 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:55.120 It's coming from utilities and the small drainage section from drainage. 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.000 Are you redoing the streets? 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:58.000 Yes, sir. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.240 So utilities are paying for the street on this? 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.240 Yes, sir. 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.880 Okay. 00:05:08.880 --> 00:05:19.560 So whenever the planning is done ... Oh, sorry. 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:24.360 When the planning was done for the budget for streets, the OCI didn't rank these to 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:25.840 be included. 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:30.600 And so there was no plan for streets to include these on the next batch that they're doing. 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:36.060 And then whenever all the utilities got replaced, the streets became in pretty bad disrepair. 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:42.280 So the utilities funding is what is being used to restore the streets. 00:05:42.280 --> 00:05:43.280 Okay. 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:45.800 That's not a norm, correct? 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.440 It's not normal. 00:05:47.440 --> 00:05:51.600 Because I mean, if you put a utility in a street, you're going to tear up the street. 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:52.600 Right. 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:56.000 And they usually come in and do their patches, and that's where you see the patches all through 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.000 the street. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:01.020 So they would pay for the patches normally, not for the reconstruction of the street. 00:06:01.020 --> 00:06:05.680 But we wouldn't be able to leave the streets in disrepair until streets would be able to 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.920 include it in a project, or in the planning budget part of it. 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.560 So we needed to go ahead and get them taken care of. 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:14.560 Okay. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:15.560 There we go. 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:16.560 That's where it goes. 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:17.560 All right. 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:18.560 That helps. 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:19.560 What's your name? 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:20.560 Robin Names. 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:21.560 Robin Names. 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:22.560 Project Mike. 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:23.560 Other questions? 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:24.560 All right. 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:31.680 Do we have a motion to approve Item A? 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:32.680 So moved. 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.360 I just moved, and we have a second. 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:37.360 Second. 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:38.360 Oh. 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:39.360 Devin Taylor seconds. 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:40.360 All in favor say aye. 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:41.360 Aye. 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:42.360 Thank you. 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:43.360 Thank you. 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.880 Item B. This one is the emergency repair. 00:06:47.880 --> 00:06:56.240 Good morning, Stephen Gay, Director of Water Utilities. 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:57.240 Good morning. 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.040 I'll ask my question again. 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.920 Cut them out of order. 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:06.480 So this planned maintenance turned into more of an emergency repair, I take it? 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:07.480 Yes. 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:11.960 We actually had filter number four, which we were planning to do the work on, and then 00:07:11.960 --> 00:07:13.280 16 failed. 00:07:13.280 --> 00:07:18.400 And so we didn't anticipate 16 failing in the heat of the summer when our demands were 00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:19.400 so aggressive. 00:07:19.400 --> 00:07:22.420 So that's what escalated this repair. 00:07:22.420 --> 00:07:24.840 So filter number four was already planned. 00:07:24.840 --> 00:07:25.840 It was already failed. 00:07:25.840 --> 00:07:28.280 So we planned to do the maintenance and repair on that. 00:07:28.280 --> 00:07:30.360 And then 16 failed. 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.720 And so that escalated the need to get 16. 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.840 We had the contractor here. 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:40.700 It made good sense for us to move forward with that repair, and the tool that we have 00:07:40.700 --> 00:07:43.960 available to do that is that emergency declaration. 00:07:43.960 --> 00:07:44.960 Okay. 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:50.000 So just curiosity on this case, since it is affecting all of us. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.000 Yes. 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.080 By increased water restrictions. 00:07:52.080 --> 00:07:54.480 So how long will it take for these to be completed? 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.400 Well, filter number four is back in service. 00:07:57.400 --> 00:08:02.080 The crew was here yesterday and while they're still here, they pulled out the under drains 00:08:02.080 --> 00:08:04.400 and they're doing their evaluation. 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:08.600 We anticipate roughly two weeks before that filter is back in service and then we'll get 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:12.360 back to full capacity, which is 50 million gallons a day. 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:13.360 Okay. 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:19.800 So this thing with these filters, are they something that are installed and still under 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:20.800 warranty? 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:21.800 Yes, sir. 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:22.800 Great question. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:23.800 They are under warranty. 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:29.480 Basically the warranty is expired, but the contractor has, actually a manufacturer has 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:35.960 evaluated the installation and has deemed that the filters have failed due to faulty 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.960 installation, so they're warranting their product anyway. 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:43.360 So they're coming to the table and they're with financial resources to offset the cost 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.360 of these repairs. 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:49.080 So the cost that we see is actually only a portion of the total repair. 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:50.080 Yes, sir. 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.080 That is correct. 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:53.760 So these filters, what is their typical life expectancy? 00:08:53.760 --> 00:08:57.520 Basically 20 years and so what we're going to be doing, we actually had already planned 00:08:57.520 --> 00:09:02.360 to do this, but we're going to be evaluating, we have to remove the filter material to do 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:05.200 a comprehensive inspection and so we're going to start. 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.020 We have 16 at Lake Louisville and so we're going to put them on a rotation to where we 00:09:10.020 --> 00:09:14.560 remove the filter media and we do a comprehensive inspection on those periodically and that 00:09:14.560 --> 00:09:15.560 will begin this year. 00:09:15.560 --> 00:09:18.280 It was already planned actually before the filters failed. 00:09:18.280 --> 00:09:19.280 Okay. 00:09:19.280 --> 00:09:23.080 So once you put them on a plan program, will you be doing a certain number of them each 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:24.360 year in the off season? 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:25.360 Yes, sir. 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:26.360 Yes. 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.240 And so we'll have, it'll be a comprehensive program, maintenance program for the filters. 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:31.240 Okay. 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.000 Do we have similar filters at Ray Roberts? 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.000 No, sir. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.000 They're different filters. 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.720 Well, they're different capacity. 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.560 We have fewer at Lake Ray Roberts. 00:09:40.560 --> 00:09:41.560 It's a similar design. 00:09:41.560 --> 00:09:47.280 I believe we have underdrain systems there as well and we use GAC, Granule Activated 00:09:47.280 --> 00:09:56.720 Carbon at, no, we're using anthracite at Ray Roberts and we're shifting to GAC and we use 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.520 Granule Activated Carbon over at Lake Louisville currently and that's what we'll be putting 00:10:01.520 --> 00:10:05.680 back into those filters, but at Ray Roberts we do that capacity improvement that we're 00:10:05.680 --> 00:10:07.040 working on right now. 00:10:07.040 --> 00:10:10.680 We're changing that filter media out to the GAC. 00:10:10.680 --> 00:10:13.060 And what is the GAC? 00:10:13.060 --> 00:10:14.060 Granule Activated Carbon. 00:10:14.060 --> 00:10:15.060 That was okay. 00:10:15.060 --> 00:10:16.060 You mentioned that. 00:10:16.060 --> 00:10:17.060 I'm sorry. 00:10:17.060 --> 00:10:18.060 We're changing that currently. 00:10:18.060 --> 00:10:19.060 Okay. 00:10:19.060 --> 00:10:21.840 Well, I don't have any further questions. 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:22.840 Questions? 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:23.840 Go ahead. 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:24.840 Sure. 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:25.840 Thank you. 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.120 So I'd like to, I saw the memo and the photos. 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:33.640 I guess since we're already talking about this, related to this expenditure, talk about 00:10:33.640 --> 00:10:34.640 this now. 00:10:34.640 --> 00:10:38.840 So the failure was, I was trying to understand what the failure was. 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:42.200 I saw like there were some torn holes in the... 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:48.840 Yeah, essentially the concrete wasn't level and then some media made it into the under 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:53.920 drain and so we put pressure on the filters or the under drains two different ways, right? 00:10:53.920 --> 00:10:58.640 So you have filter media that sits on top of them and so the water percolates down through 00:10:58.640 --> 00:11:01.600 the filter media and then goes into a main trough. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.300 That's the filter process. 00:11:03.300 --> 00:11:05.720 To clean the filters, we have to do an air scour. 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.320 So we basically push air up through the filter so we reverse the flow to break apart all 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.480 the little particles that are stuck to the filters and then we wash the filters to make 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:16.600 them clean. 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:21.040 And so we're putting pressure on going down and pressure on coming up. 00:11:21.040 --> 00:11:27.280 And when that filter media, I guess, breaches the under drain, it gets caught in there and 00:11:27.280 --> 00:11:29.600 it increases the pressure. 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:33.040 And so that's what caused those welds to fail. 00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:38.600 Okay, I couldn't tell by the images that there were failed welds. 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:43.800 Yeah, because what it did is the gasket because the actual concrete was not level so the gasket 00:11:43.800 --> 00:11:44.800 failed. 00:11:44.800 --> 00:11:49.040 He had the material in there and then due to just the normal operation and the pressure 00:11:49.040 --> 00:11:54.120 fluctuations caused the welds to fail on some of the troughs or some of the laterals. 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:59.120 Okay, and so the failure was in those lateral supports but the repairs to the concrete, 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:00.120 which is... 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.120 It's both. 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.640 Yeah, we're repairing the concrete, getting everything nice and level. 00:12:03.640 --> 00:12:05.280 That's what they found yesterday when they pulled them out. 00:12:05.280 --> 00:12:08.920 They said, "Yeah, the concrete really needs to be addressed." 00:12:08.920 --> 00:12:09.920 Okay, thank you. 00:12:09.920 --> 00:12:10.920 Yes, sir. 00:12:10.920 --> 00:12:11.920 Further questions? 00:12:11.920 --> 00:12:15.200 Okay, do we have a motion to approve item B? 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:16.200 So moved. 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:17.200 And second? 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.360 Oh, Mr. Rybeck seconds. 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:20.720 All in favor say aye. 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:21.720 Aye. 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:22.720 Motion carries. 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.160 Next item is, excuse me, consider approval of the August 26th, 2024 minutes. 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:30.280 Were there any changes or corrections? 00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:31.800 I couldn't access the minutes. 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:35.480 I don't know if they're available. 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.520 When I go to view them online, it just gives me a message that the document's not available. 00:12:39.520 --> 00:12:51.480 Oh, I had to go in a different way, but I couldn't get to them, yeah. 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.360 I would like to confirm that it's still the case. 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:55.360 Okay. 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:56.360 Nothing. 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:57.360 You couldn't get to them either? 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:58.360 Oh, I did. 00:12:58.360 --> 00:12:59.360 You're a genius. 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.280 Well, so's Aaron. 00:13:02.280 --> 00:13:14.200 Okay, Susan just said we can delay it and do both minutes next time. 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.000 Yeah, we don't. 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:21.480 Okay, we'll just delay that until the next meeting. 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.200 Thank you. 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:28.800 The next item is consider recommending the approval of the solid waste fiscal year 2024-2025 00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:34.400 meeting and capital budgets. 00:13:34.400 --> 00:13:41.920 All right. 00:13:41.920 --> 00:13:45.120 Good morning, members of PUB, Madam Chair. 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.880 My name's Matt Hamilton, budget manager for the city. 00:13:47.880 --> 00:13:53.840 Here today to present the budgets and rates for each of the utilities as well as the customer 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:59.160 service fund, which we've historically presented with the utilities. 00:13:59.160 --> 00:14:03.480 So first, we have the solid waste fund. 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:08.920 There are no changes to the solid waste fund from the information that you had previously 00:14:08.920 --> 00:14:10.020 seen. 00:14:10.020 --> 00:14:19.480 So as you may recall, we presented to the PUB in June and July and then presented to 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.880 the city council in August. 00:14:21.880 --> 00:14:27.160 There were no changes that had come out of the presentation from the city council. 00:14:27.160 --> 00:14:34.400 So we've returned today just to present what we intend to bring forward on September 17th 00:14:34.400 --> 00:14:37.920 for budget adoption. 00:14:37.920 --> 00:14:42.680 So the solid waste fund, as you may recall, we're proposing a base rate increase of one 00:14:42.680 --> 00:14:44.720 and a half percent. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:52.200 In the fiscal year 2025 budget, we've included expenditures for closure, post closure, an 00:14:52.200 --> 00:15:00.080 increase in personnel cost for the anticipated citywide COLA and merit, as well as an increase 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:06.280 in the debt service projected for 2025 from the 2024 CIP issuance. 00:15:06.280 --> 00:15:11.120 Supplemental request for the solid waste and recycling fund includes software for their 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:16.880 vehicles in the amount of $121,500. 00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:22.640 So this is the same PERFORMA five year forecast that you saw previously. 00:15:22.640 --> 00:15:31.840 The proposed 2025 budget is $43,519,287. 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:36.400 And this is just an overview of the total resources and expenditures that you had seen 00:15:36.400 --> 00:15:39.240 previously. 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:49.240 So the solid waste five year capital plan, a total of $12,995,711, which primarily is 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:57.840 debt funded and includes the projects that you see there. 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:02.440 And then just to provide an overview of the proposed rate changes, commercial and residential 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:09.800 cart service, a one and a half percent increase, $25 increase to the roll off rates for hauls, 00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:19.080 $2.92 increase on the rentals, again, $25 on the compactor rates, $1.05 increase on 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:27.560 the rental for 30 cubic yard and $4.25 increase on the rental of a 40 cubic yard container. 00:16:27.560 --> 00:16:34.920 And then landfill rates proposed to increase $1.50 with the exception of shingles. 00:16:34.920 --> 00:16:41.600 And then commercial trash, also one and a half percent increase. 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:50.520 So again, these are the same proposals that we previously brought to the board. 00:16:50.520 --> 00:16:54.840 And next steps will be budget adoption on September 17th. 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:58.360 Are there any questions in regards to solid waste? 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.360 Yes. 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:05.160 Could you go back to the slide with the debt service on it? 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.520 Excuse me. 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:10.520 Is that the one? 00:17:10.520 --> 00:17:11.520 Maybe it's the next one. 00:17:11.520 --> 00:17:12.520 Nope. 00:17:12.520 --> 00:17:13.520 Oh, there you are. 00:17:13.520 --> 00:17:14.520 Okay. 00:17:14.520 --> 00:17:15.520 Thank you. 00:17:15.520 --> 00:17:20.440 I just want to take another look at it, you kind of went by it. 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.860 Sure, sure. 00:17:23.860 --> 00:17:28.640 So we're projecting that our debt service ratio for solid waste is going to be declining 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.040 over time? 00:17:30.040 --> 00:17:31.040 Yes. 00:17:31.040 --> 00:17:38.720 So the debt service coverage ratio just looks at the current year's cash flow and that current 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.360 year's debt service. 00:17:40.360 --> 00:17:48.600 So whatever the revenues minus expenditures are in that year compared or, you know, over 00:17:48.600 --> 00:17:51.760 the amounts that we would owe in debt service. 00:17:51.760 --> 00:17:58.500 So some of that change is attributable to expenditures increasing in future years. 00:17:58.500 --> 00:18:02.680 Some of it is attributable to the debt service increasing in the future years. 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:08.020 The city's policy is to maintain a debt service coverage ratio of at least one and a quarter 00:18:08.020 --> 00:18:13.060 percent, but we target one and a half or, you know, 1.5. 00:18:13.060 --> 00:18:18.880 So the solid waste fund is well above our policy targets for the debt service coverage 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:19.880 ratio. 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:27.140 Okay, and the revenue sufficiency requirement line item appears to just start next fiscal 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:28.140 year. 00:18:28.140 --> 00:18:31.240 So have we not had that in previous years or? 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:37.280 So the revenue sufficiency requirement line is the anticipated additional revenue that 00:18:37.280 --> 00:18:44.160 we will need in those future years, which is akin to rate increases. 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:49.800 And now that may be base rate or it may be, as you saw, some of the other rates in terms 00:18:49.800 --> 00:18:55.440 of solid waste where, you know, we have landfill rates and other, you know, rates. 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.560 So not specific to, you know, residential base rates necessarily. 00:18:59.560 --> 00:19:05.580 And that's something that we evaluate and look at very closely each year. 00:19:05.580 --> 00:19:12.620 The percentages that you see in '26 through '29 are just projections at this point. 00:19:12.620 --> 00:19:20.280 And so, you know, if there were to be changes in growth, if there were to be changes in 00:19:20.280 --> 00:19:25.680 the fund's expenditures, you know, we could see that percentage fluctuate. 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.720 Well, I noticed as it went up, the debt service ratio went down. 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:35.520 So I was just curious if there was some relationship about that to try to maintain the debt service 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:38.160 ratio at a lower number. 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:44.160 It is that and that is the one tool that we use in order to keep that debt service coverage 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.220 ratio above the policy target. 00:19:48.220 --> 00:19:53.020 And so it all plays together. 00:19:53.020 --> 00:19:58.400 There's a revenue requirement to meet the expenditure needs as well as that debt service 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:04.520 coverage ratio, which is calculated based on the revenue and expenditures. 00:20:04.520 --> 00:20:08.920 So okay, well, I'm not the expert financial guy, but thank you. 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:09.920 Yeah. 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:10.920 Yeah, of course. 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:11.920 Other questions? 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:12.920 Go ahead. 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:20.640 I know we've seen this, the statistics in our previous budgeting meetings, and unfortunately, 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:21.640 it's not in this. 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:30.360 The last solid waste residential rate increase, was that in 2000? 00:20:30.360 --> 00:20:31.360 Do you know the year? 00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:35.520 I want to say, was it like about 12 years ago? 00:20:35.520 --> 00:20:41.960 I'll ask Brian to come up. 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:46.400 Brian Burner, Solid Waste Director with City of Denton. 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:47.400 You're correct. 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:52.600 I've just celebrated my sixth anniversary with the City of Denton, and we have not had 00:20:52.600 --> 00:20:56.780 a rate increase in those six years, so it's been at least 10 years since we've realized 00:20:56.780 --> 00:20:57.780 a rate increase. 00:20:57.780 --> 00:21:03.560 You may remember that about five years ago, we actually cut rates by about 27%, and we've 00:21:03.560 --> 00:21:10.200 carried that through to this point, which really is why it necessitates the 1.5% increase 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:11.200 moving forward. 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:12.200 Okay. 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:13.200 Thank you. 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:14.200 Thank you. 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:15.200 Other questions? 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:16.200 All right. 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:27.520 Do we have a motion to approve the solid waste fiscal year 2024-2025 operating cost? 00:21:27.520 --> 00:21:29.440 Operating capital budgets. 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.440 Second. 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:31.440 Devin, second. 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.560 All in favor, say aye. 00:21:34.560 --> 00:21:35.560 Aye. 00:21:35.560 --> 00:21:36.560 Motion carries. 00:21:36.560 --> 00:21:42.320 Next item is consider recommending the approval of the water fiscal year 2024-2025 operating 00:21:42.320 --> 00:21:46.920 capital budgets. 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:52.440 Okay. 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:59.160 Matt Hamilton, budget manager, here to present the water budget rates for fiscal year 2025. 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:05.080 So for the water funds, we are proposing a base rate increase of 3%. 00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:10.720 We again anticipate an increase in personnel costs, an increase in the debt service for 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:16.320 fiscal year 2025, and for the supplemental request for the water funds, we have seven 00:22:16.320 --> 00:22:26.560 directors, one apprentice, and an assistant general manager, totaling nine FTEs for $957,431, 00:22:26.560 --> 00:22:31.120 which does include the cost of benefits. 00:22:31.120 --> 00:22:33.280 This is the water fund five-year forecast. 00:22:33.280 --> 00:22:37.980 There were no changes since the last time you saw this. 00:22:37.980 --> 00:22:50.480 So for fiscal year 2025, we are proposing a $55,635,824 million budget. 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.880 The water fund five-year capital, CIP. 00:22:54.880 --> 00:23:03.880 For fiscal year 2025, we're proposing $130,426,000, which includes the various categories you 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:09.080 see there. 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:14.360 And in terms of the proposed rate changes, just to provide an overview, we're proposing 00:23:14.360 --> 00:23:21.840 a 3% increase for residential water service, a 3% increase on commercial water service. 00:23:21.840 --> 00:23:28.720 Both water services, just to note, that 3% increase includes both customers within the 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:33.320 corporate limits and outside of the corporate limits of the city. 00:23:33.320 --> 00:23:38.760 The Upper Trinity Regional Water District wholesale rates, we had talked about this, adjusting 00:23:38.760 --> 00:23:49.560 the current wholesale water rate to $0.96 from $0.90 to align with prior contract language. 00:23:49.560 --> 00:23:57.280 And then the wholesale treated rate, as you may recall, the current rate at $0.61 is lower 00:23:57.280 --> 00:24:06.840 than the wholesale rate, and making an adjustment to the $1.25 to align with current market 00:24:06.840 --> 00:24:10.080 prices for cost recovery. 00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:18.720 The meters, increase in the fire hydrant meter deposit to $3,000, just to align with the 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:25.440 cost of what the meter would cost if not returned. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:33.320 And then the backflow testing, increasing from $15.95 to $25, just to align with the 00:24:33.320 --> 00:24:37.000 actual cost of labor associated with the testing. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:42.600 And then the backflow service and non-City of Denton meter testing, adding those fees 00:24:42.600 --> 00:24:44.480 to the schedule. 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:54.240 Commercial irrigation rates, adding a tiered system to the irrigation rates, and then increasing 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:58.120 by 3%. 00:24:58.120 --> 00:25:05.720 Water tap and meter fees, making a change just to align with actual costs associated 00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.880 with those water taps. 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:14.520 And then taps over four inches, charging those on a per project basis. 00:25:14.520 --> 00:25:21.640 So depending on the project and the various factors associated with the project, the cost 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:27.020 may be a little lower or a little higher than the prior rates, but that would just be reflective 00:25:27.020 --> 00:25:34.280 of the actual cost associated with that project. 00:25:34.280 --> 00:25:39.240 And then next steps will be budget adoption on September 17th. 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.040 Any questions on the water fund? 00:25:42.040 --> 00:25:48.560 Page four on the capital requirements. 00:25:48.560 --> 00:25:55.000 So over time, we actually expect our capital expenditures to go down in the next five years. 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:01.600 Now, this year, obviously, plan improvements is a lot higher than we expect to see in future 00:26:01.600 --> 00:26:02.600 years. 00:26:02.600 --> 00:26:07.600 There's a couple other ones that replace lines this coming year, also higher. 00:26:07.600 --> 00:26:12.240 Is our history that we've ever seen lower costs on things moving forward, and how realistic 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.880 is it to expect that? 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.800 Yeah, so typically, well, I think a couple of things. 00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:27.400 One is that there are some very large needed infrastructure improvements within the water 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:35.640 and wastewater systems that is reflected in this CIP that you see here, particularly the 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:41.600 plant improvements of 40 to 50 million over the next several years, which is attributable 00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:48.040 to the growth that the city has experienced. 00:26:48.040 --> 00:26:54.080 In prior years, a historical amount would be 40 to 50 million. 00:26:54.080 --> 00:27:03.620 And so what you see here is you see the spike for this one-time infrastructure that's needed, 00:27:03.620 --> 00:27:12.020 but then a return back to that 40 or 50 million in typical infrastructure improvements. 00:27:12.020 --> 00:27:17.200 I have a question and a comment. 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:22.240 This slide, 134.26, that's 130 million. 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:23.240 It is. 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.320 This is expressed in thousands. 00:27:25.320 --> 00:27:29.120 So that 130, 426 is millions. 00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:30.120 Yes, sir. 00:27:30.120 --> 00:27:31.120 I understand that. 00:27:31.120 --> 00:27:35.960 But nothing on this slide indicates that it's being expressed in thousands. 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.680 Yes. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:38.680 My apologies. 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:39.680 It should-- 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.360 I would recommend you make an improvement. 00:27:43.360 --> 00:27:50.440 I wanted to go back to the untreated and treated water rates. 00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:54.520 So we're selling untreated wholesale water, or we're buying it? 00:27:54.520 --> 00:27:56.680 I was a little confused about that. 00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:57.680 Yeah. 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:04.080 I'll ask Stephen to come up. 00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:08.920 Stephen Gay, Director of Water Utilities, Mr. Redbeck. 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.020 Are we purchasing that water, or are we selling water? 00:28:12.020 --> 00:28:14.680 We sell both of those, our sales. 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:20.000 So the raw water is sold to Upper Trinity Regional Water District, and we also sell the 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.560 finished water to Upper Trinity Regional Water District. 00:28:23.560 --> 00:28:28.120 That finished water goes to serve the communities of Crum and Sanger. 00:28:28.120 --> 00:28:29.120 OK. 00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:30.440 But we're selling it. 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:31.440 We're not buying it. 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:32.440 That is correct, sir. 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:33.440 OK. 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:34.440 I was just curious. 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:35.440 I saw that number jump 105%. 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:43.820 It's like, wow, is that a cost problem, or that's a business opportunity, I guess, on our part. 00:28:43.820 --> 00:28:46.240 So why the big jump on that? 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.880 Well, we evaluated it. 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:53.680 It's been relatively stagnant for 20 years. 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:59.400 If you go back to the '80s, that's what the rate was for finished water. 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:07.080 And the organization hadn't re-evaluated it until recently, and we looked at our cost. 00:29:07.080 --> 00:29:09.080 And that's our preliminary adjustment. 00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:13.560 We're going to be doing a cost of service study this year, which is going to dig more 00:29:13.560 --> 00:29:18.160 deeply into that number to make sure that we ensure full cost recovery for whatever 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:19.440 we sell. 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.880 And what percentage of our water are we selling in those two categories? 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.440 It's roughly, on average, is about a million gallons a day, is what we sell to those two 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.440 communities. 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.480 Which would be what percentage of our total? 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:38.520 Well, we do 50 million gallons a day as our treatment capacity, 17 million gallons a day 00:29:38.520 --> 00:29:43.720 as our average daily demand, so 1/17 of that. 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.400 So 8% or 9%, something in that range. 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:48.400 Yeah. 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:49.400 OK. 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:50.400 Thank you. 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:51.400 You're very welcome. 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:52.400 I'm glad you asked me first. 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:57.160 I was curious, are we the sole providers for the water for Krumm and Sanger? 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:01.480 Krumm and Sanger also have groundwater wells that they rely on, but from a finished to 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:07.360 treated water, surface water perspective, it's us, but they're not our customers. 00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:10.420 They're customers of the Opportunity Regional Water District. 00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:15.480 And so our contract is to sell the water to Opportunity, and then Opportunity is their 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:16.480 provider. 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:17.480 Middleman. 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:18.480 Yes, sir. 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:19.480 Thank you. 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:20.480 Yes, sir. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.480 Two questions. 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.120 The raw water, is that provided in the lake, or is that-- OK. 00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:32.760 Yeah, they have an intake on Lake Louisville, and that's where they draw their water from. 00:30:32.760 --> 00:30:35.000 And that's based off of the Dallas contract. 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:41.240 So Dallas has their contract for raw water purchases, and in the contract that we had 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:46.760 with Opportunity, it referenced the Dallas rate, and we would be 85% of the Dallas rate. 00:30:46.760 --> 00:30:50.240 So we can just adjust the rate as Dallas adjusts theirs. 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:51.240 OK. 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:58.200 And my second is maybe somewhat of a comment, but also I just want to make sure we address 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.440 this in that cost of service study. 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:01.440 Yes, sir. 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.440 $1.25 per thousand is a very cheap rate for raw water. 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:06.440 Yes, sir. 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.440 Much less treated water. 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:08.440 So I just want to make sure-- 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:09.440 Yes, sir. 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:18.200 This was our first shot at trying to realize that full cost recovery, and definitely the 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.860 cost of service is being driven by this one as well. 00:31:21.860 --> 00:31:28.160 And I understand we can't necessarily shock those water departments by tripling their 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:32.440 rate in a year, but we do want to make sure that in the long term we bring that up to 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.560 full cost of service and full capital. 00:31:34.560 --> 00:31:38.480 Those pipelines out there will have to be replaced every 50 years, and all the pumping 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:39.800 costs, and all that stuff. 00:31:39.800 --> 00:31:40.800 Yes. 00:31:40.800 --> 00:31:45.080 Well, and to be fair, in the Opportunity Regional Water District budget for the last five years, 00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:50.880 they've increased their rate to those two communities by 5%, anticipating a rate increase 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:51.880 for us. 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.120 So I think there's some bandwidth there. 00:31:56.120 --> 00:32:00.680 Yes, thank you. 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:01.680 Further questions? 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:02.680 All right. 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:10.480 Do we have a motion to approve the water fiscal year 2024-25 operating in capital budgets? 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:11.480 So moved. 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:12.480 Okay. 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.480 Kevin moved. 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:14.480 Second? 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:15.480 Second. 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:16.480 Okay. 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:17.480 Billy second. 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:18.480 All in favor say aye. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.480 Aye. 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:20.480 All right. 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:25.960 Next one is consider recommending the approval of the wastewater fiscal year 2024-25 operating 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.360 in capital budgets. 00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:31.200 Okay. 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.840 So an overview for the wastewater funds. 00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:37.600 We are proposing an 11% increase in base rates. 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:42.800 This rate is needed to meet debt service coverage and policy targets. 00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:48.240 We also are proposing an increase in the sale of treated affluent, as well as changing the 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:56.280 tapping fee structure, similar to the fee structure that you had seen for the water 00:32:56.280 --> 00:32:57.280 fund. 00:32:57.280 --> 00:33:04.360 Expense projections, again, we anticipate an increase in personnel and operating expenditures, 00:33:04.360 --> 00:33:10.400 particularly in chemicals going into fiscal year 2025. 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.160 For supplemental requests, the only request included for the wastewater fund is one water 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:25.640 reclamation technician for a cost of $101,359,000 including benefits. 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.840 This is an overview of the wastewater five-year forecast. 00:33:29.840 --> 00:33:33.320 This is the same forecast you had seen previously. 00:33:33.320 --> 00:33:39.640 The total budget for the wastewater fund is $40,022,601. 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:48.240 And I'll just note that what you see here is just the wastewater component of it. 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.300 The wastewater fund also includes the drainage division. 00:33:52.300 --> 00:33:58.120 So we just wanted to break out each of those components so you could see them independently. 00:33:58.120 --> 00:34:04.700 So the drainage division, not much change here or no change since you saw it previously, 00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:08.340 but just year over year, there's very little change. 00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:18.080 The proposed budget for drainage is $5,639,563. 00:34:18.080 --> 00:34:26.400 And here's just a combined look at both wastewater fund components, wastewater and drainage together. 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:31.360 So the total of the wastewater funds that we will bring forward to council and for your 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:41.780 consideration today is $45,662,164. 00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:45.800 This is an overview of the wastewater five-year CIP. 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.880 And this is in thousands. 00:34:48.880 --> 00:35:00.200 So a total of $10475,000,000. 00:35:00.200 --> 00:35:04.180 And then providing an overview of the wastewater proposed rates. 00:35:04.180 --> 00:35:11.920 So again, we are proposing an 11% increase to residential and commercial services, an 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:18.640 increase in the sale of treated effluent rates from $1.67 to $2.50 per thousand gallons. 00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:26.760 And then the wastewater tap fees above four inches to be on a per project basis to align 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.960 with the actual costs associated with those individual projects. 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:38.720 And then an increase in the waste transportation manifest book, which is just reflective of 00:35:38.720 --> 00:35:44.200 the actual costs of printing and producing those books. 00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:49.080 And the next steps will be council. 00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:51.360 Any questions on the wastewater fund? 00:35:51.360 --> 00:36:00.920 Okay. 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:07.000 So we're predicting and proposing an ending fund balance of a million dollars. 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.760 So the drainage fund just pretty consistently is what I was looking at there. 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:17.160 We do have a policy within drainage to maintain a million dollar reserve. 00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:21.720 And so every year we budget to meet that million dollar reserve. 00:36:21.720 --> 00:36:26.500 If there is anything above and beyond that million dollars, it's put toward one time 00:36:26.500 --> 00:36:28.240 capital projects. 00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:31.800 If not, then it's a use of this reserve. 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.960 Typically drainage is pretty known and steady. 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.880 And so it's plus or minus, you know, a couple hundred thousand if that each year. 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:51.360 But there are quite a few, you know, drainage infrastructure needs that we know are coming. 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:59.120 And so just having that reserve is important to, you know, maintain if there's any emergency 00:36:59.120 --> 00:37:00.120 types of situations. 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:01.120 Oh, yeah. 00:37:01.120 --> 00:37:02.120 I remember that. 00:37:02.120 --> 00:37:07.400 And I'm pretty sure we did that when we instigated drainage fees in the city of Denver. 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:14.000 We just threw that number out there of a million dollars, and that was 15, 16 years ago or 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.000 something, I believe. 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.000 Yeah. 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.760 But is that about how far deep we are into drainage fees now? 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:25.040 Yes, the drainage fees have not been updated in a significant amount of time. 00:37:25.040 --> 00:37:26.040 Okay. 00:37:26.040 --> 00:37:27.040 Yeah. 00:37:27.040 --> 00:37:28.040 All right. 00:37:28.040 --> 00:37:31.040 I just wanted to clarify that. 00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:32.040 Thanks. 00:37:32.040 --> 00:37:33.040 Go ahead, Danny. 00:37:33.040 --> 00:37:41.800 Okay, so personnel services has a pretty steady just kind of future years, has about a 3% 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:45.680 growth, which would probably cost a living, wage increases, that sort of thing. 00:37:45.680 --> 00:37:53.040 Now, if you go down to the capital projects, which I think is a couple more here, we have 00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:57.040 about $400 million being spent to build a wastewater treatment plant. 00:37:57.040 --> 00:38:03.120 It seems like that's likely going to lead to a staff of 15 or 20 increase. 00:38:03.120 --> 00:38:11.640 Is that just not currently in the forecasts or will that be from existing staff being 00:38:11.640 --> 00:38:13.680 relocated? 00:38:13.680 --> 00:38:23.840 So we will evaluate the operational costs and needs of any infrastructure that is completed. 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:30.560 I think these plant improvements are anticipated to be completed, you know, a couple years 00:38:30.560 --> 00:38:34.160 from now I'll let Stephen discuss the timing of it. 00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:39.480 But that is something that we look at and include in the budget. 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:47.000 What's reflected here are not those specific supplemental requests in years four and five, 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.240 but they will be coming forward. 00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:55.120 So normally we've got this new plant coming online next year, we're going to do a supplemental 00:38:55.120 --> 00:38:57.120 for 12 new headcounts. 00:38:57.120 --> 00:38:59.840 Is that how normally in the budget process? 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:05.880 Yeah, and well, Stephen Gade, Director of Water Utilities, the new plant will be, I guess, 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.640 the modifications at Pecan Creek, so it's an existing facility. 00:39:09.640 --> 00:39:12.440 So we're adding that 5 million gallons of treatment capacity there. 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.160 We'll be able to manage that with our existing staff. 00:39:15.160 --> 00:39:19.680 The newest plant will be up in the Clear Creek Basin and that's projected to be online within 00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:21.560 the next five to six years. 00:39:21.560 --> 00:39:26.040 So we'll see that staffing hit about that time. 00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:32.160 So it's like an extra $100 million, an extra $150 million, an extra $150 million. 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:36.320 Those are primarily the Pecan Creek, not yet the Clear Creek? 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.040 Not yet Clear Creek, right. 00:39:38.040 --> 00:39:44.440 We're building, currently we have a CMAR, Construction Manager Risk Project, out at 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:50.760 Pecan Creek to add 5 million gallons of MBR technology at additional capacity at that 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:51.760 plant. 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.760 Okay, thank you. 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.280 I was thinking that was the new plant, not the current, thank you. 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.280 No, sir, not yet. 00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:02.000 We haven't even gotten into design on that yet, so, okay. 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.960 And the capital plan includes all the new development that's going to be happening in 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.760 Hunter and Cole? 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:08.760 Yes. 00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:09.760 Yeah. 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:10.760 Other questions? 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:17.600 All right, do we have a motion to approve the Wastewater Fiscal Year 2024-25 Operating 00:40:17.600 --> 00:40:19.400 in Capital Budgets? 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.400 Oh, you're moved? 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:23.400 Second? 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:24.400 Please, seconds. 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:25.880 All in favor say aye. 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:26.880 Aye. 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:27.880 Opposed? 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:28.880 Carries. 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:35.640 All right, on to the Electrical Fiscal Year 2024-25 Operating in Capital Budgets. 00:40:35.640 --> 00:40:44.200 Okay, so the Electric Fund, we do have a couple of items that we wanted to update the board 00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:47.300 on since the last time this was presented. 00:40:47.300 --> 00:40:50.320 For the most part, it's the same, but there are a couple updates on the supplementals 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.240 and rates. 00:40:52.240 --> 00:41:00.360 So as you previously saw, growth projections of 7.53% are anticipated for known residential 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:01.640 and commercial projects. 00:41:01.640 --> 00:41:07.900 In Fiscal Year 2025, revenue projections, we are proposing a 1.5% base rate increase 00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:10.440 effective October 1st. 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:16.880 And while keeping in mind that we do have a cost of service study that is ongoing and 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:22.520 is anticipated to be completed later this fiscal year, early 2025, with the primary 00:41:22.520 --> 00:41:29.040 consideration of looking at those fixed costs, the facility and usage charges. 00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:33.320 On the expense side, as you had seen with the other funds, we're anticipating an increase 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:38.960 in personnel costs for the citywide compensation, coal, and merit. 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:44.160 And then in terms of supplemental requests, what we are proposing for the Electric Fund 00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:53.720 are nine new FTEs in Fiscal Year 2025, as well as a supplemental for equipment and supplies 00:41:53.720 --> 00:41:56.280 and GIS cloud service. 00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:07.080 So the total supplemental requests for each of those combined is $1,871,252. 00:42:07.080 --> 00:42:14.560 So taking a look at the revised position requests, DME evaluated the requests. 00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:19.760 As you may call, originally it was 16 and a half new FTEs and 25. 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.800 DME revised that down to nine. 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:31.520 And so the supplemental expense reduced from $3.7 million to the $1.8. 00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:40.760 And here you can see the proposed nine positions. 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:47.200 The proposed rate summary-- so as you had seen previously, a 1 and 1/2% increase in 00:42:47.200 --> 00:42:56.560 base rates, but something that is new, that came up as we evaluated the full fee schedule, 00:42:56.560 --> 00:42:59.640 was pole attachment fees and making a revision to that schedule. 00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:05.480 So the pole attachment fees is an annual rental fee for telecommunication and cable providers 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:09.000 when they attach to DME poles. 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:15.800 And then also adding a schedule for wholesale transmission service, neither of these impact 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:21.240 residential customers, but it's something that we wanted to update within the fee schedule 00:43:21.240 --> 00:43:27.680 as we made the other changes. 00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:31.480 So this is an overview of the electric five-year forecast. 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:43.360 The only change is in the supplemental amounts, reducing from that $3.7 to the $1.8 million. 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:49.680 And then an overview of the five-year CIP, which is unchanged from what the board saw 00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:54.400 earlier this summer. 00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:00.880 A total CIP of $75,022,730. 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:11.080 And this one is not in thousands, but in actual. 00:44:11.080 --> 00:44:14.680 Next steps will be city council on September 17th. 00:44:14.680 --> 00:44:18.960 Are there any questions on the electric fund? 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:24.200 Going back to page five, personnel cost in 2024 are $26 million, but we're adding nine 00:44:24.200 --> 00:44:25.200 FTEs in 2025. 00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:28.000 Why is the personnel cost lower? 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.000 Yeah. 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.640 So that's a really great question. 00:44:31.640 --> 00:44:36.360 There are some position movements occurring between funds. 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:43.520 And so as you'll actually see in the customer service presentation that comes next, DME currently 00:44:43.520 --> 00:44:50.640 has dispatchers that will move from the electric fund into the customer service fund to be 00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:53.640 part of 311. 00:44:53.640 --> 00:45:01.280 And so there's just some internal position movements that account for that. 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:02.280 Thank you. 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:09.840 I had a question about, was it CIS or GIS on one of the slides? 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:10.840 The software. 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:11.840 Cloud service. 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:12.840 Mm-hmm. 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:16.640 Could you refresh my memory on what that is? 00:45:16.640 --> 00:45:17.640 Yeah. 00:45:17.640 --> 00:45:18.640 Ask Tony. 00:45:18.640 --> 00:45:20.920 So Tony went to DME general manager. 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:30.840 So this is basically moving a lot of our systems out of servers that are here locally to the 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:31.840 cloud. 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.640 For the payment of that cloud service. 00:45:35.640 --> 00:45:39.880 So again, just to increase the social security for many of our systems that we have. 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:43.120 So GIS, is that a company or a system name? 00:45:43.120 --> 00:45:48.200 Yeah, GIS specifically is the geographical information system. 00:45:48.200 --> 00:45:51.640 So it's how we map out our entire system. 00:45:51.640 --> 00:45:53.440 Thank you. 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.760 Question. 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:01.680 So just kind of me doing the math of all things being equal, so far we're looking at roughly 00:46:01.680 --> 00:46:08.040 a 17% overall increase in all the utilities, would that be a fair statement? 00:46:08.040 --> 00:46:09.040 I don't know. 00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:15.240 Well, I'm looking at one and a half, one and a half is three plus three plus 11 increases. 00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:16.840 In terms of rates. 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:17.840 Yes. 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:19.200 If you were to, yes. 00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.400 If you were to add those percentages together. 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.720 Because people will ask and I'm just as a, you know, with everything being equal, we're 00:46:25.720 --> 00:46:28.320 looking at roughly an increase of that this year. 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:29.320 Right. 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:30.320 Yeah. 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:31.320 No. 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:32.320 I understand. 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:33.320 The average. 00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:34.320 That's correct. 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.320 Right. 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.280 But I like the sum number because it catches people's attention. 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:39.280 Yes. 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.280 All right. 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:41.280 Appreciate it. 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:42.280 Yes. 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:43.280 Thank you. 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.000 I'd like to go back to the page with the personnel on it. 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:53.960 One of those caught my eye. 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:54.960 There it is. 00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:02.520 The electric technology business operations manager. 00:47:02.520 --> 00:47:08.160 So one of the things that, that we started doing this past year is handling a lot of 00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:15.080 our DME specific technology that was previously handled by the city's centralized tech services 00:47:15.080 --> 00:47:16.080 area. 00:47:16.080 --> 00:47:21.000 And so this, so this position is a manager to oversee the staff that we already have 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.760 on hand and try to relieve one of the division managers that's been overseeing that we're 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.040 in multiple hats. 00:47:26.040 --> 00:47:27.040 Okay. 00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:32.600 So basically DME is kind of going to take back ownership of managing those technology 00:47:32.600 --> 00:47:35.400 assets for those that are specific to DME only. 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:40.040 So the technology that's across the board for the city will continue to be managed by 00:47:40.040 --> 00:47:43.240 the city's centralized with the city's IT group. 00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:44.240 Yes, sir. 00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:45.240 Yes, sir. 00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:47.680 Thank you. 00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:55.440 On this slide, excuse me, on page five, the DSCR is pretty low 1.1 in 2023, 1.23 in 2025, 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.580 or excuse me, 2024. 00:47:57.580 --> 00:48:01.800 Has that impacted our interest rates and our capital projects that we're debt borrowing 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.460 to pay for? 00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:12.920 So the debt service coverage ratio is a factor that is looked at by the, by the rating agencies. 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:20.140 The debt service coverage ratio as it's looked at when it's reviewed by the rating agencies 00:48:20.140 --> 00:48:22.400 is for the utility system as a whole. 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.480 And so they're looking not at necessarily specific funds or divisions. 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.640 They're looking at the entire utility system. 00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:40.060 It is certainly a factor in the rating agency's ratings, which that rating directly impacts 00:48:40.060 --> 00:48:41.080 the interest rates. 00:48:41.080 --> 00:48:48.400 So the higher the debt service coverage ratio, you know, the more favorable the rating agencies 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:54.960 would look at that and then therefore your interest rate may be, you know, may be lower. 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:55.960 Right. 00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:03.080 So with it being 1.01% in 2023, 1.23 in 2024, it's a little bit lower than our other areas, 00:49:03.080 --> 00:49:05.920 which based on what you said could have an impact on rates. 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.400 Did we experience an impact on our interest rates? 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:09.400 We did not. 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:18.840 So the utility system is currently rated A plus, which is high investment grade. 00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:27.880 The CEOs that the utilities issue under the city of Denton rating is double A and so, 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:29.800 or excuse me, double A plus. 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:35.740 So one notch below the highest rating, which is triple A. So both the city and the utility 00:49:35.740 --> 00:49:39.680 system are very highly rated. 00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:41.920 So, yeah. 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.800 Yeah, why we need it. 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:45.800 Right. 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.240 Just a quick question, you may have touched on this earlier, the revenue sufficiency requirement 00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:56.640 kind of looks like it went from zero to one and a half this coming year and then it's 00:49:56.640 --> 00:49:59.040 going up around five, five and a half. 00:49:59.040 --> 00:50:01.640 What's driving that line item? 00:50:01.640 --> 00:50:07.080 Yeah, there's a couple of things that drive that. 00:50:07.080 --> 00:50:13.160 One is operating expenses, just in general operating expenses and debt service as well 00:50:13.160 --> 00:50:16.680 as the revenue projection. 00:50:16.680 --> 00:50:26.320 But in this case, a lot of what's driving it is the 31 million that was needed to be 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:33.160 securitized this year over the next five years for the unanticipated purchase power expense 00:50:33.160 --> 00:50:38.400 in August of 20, last year, 23. 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:44.840 And so what we anticipate is that the debt service as we forecast this out, you don't 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.160 see here, but in 2030 actually dips back down. 00:50:49.160 --> 00:50:55.160 And so what you see here is you see these five and a half, five percent rate increases 00:50:55.160 --> 00:51:02.680 again as I had mentioned with the other funds, that's just an anticipated number at this 00:51:02.680 --> 00:51:07.240 point, but once we get through the cost of service study, we'll have a much better idea 00:51:07.240 --> 00:51:12.320 of whether or not that five and a half is something that we'll need to move forward 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:13.320 with next year. 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:21.160 So it's just a projection at this point, but we'll see where that cost of service study 00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:22.160 lands. 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:27.200 Mr. Rubick, I'll just point out too that if you remember in February when we came to the 00:51:27.200 --> 00:51:31.520 board and to the council, we were projecting a five percent increase for 25 and we were 00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:35.360 able to work that down to one and a half. 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.560 That's our commitment going forward is that I know these are big numbers, but we'll continue 00:51:39.560 --> 00:51:44.680 to look at that, look at our budgets, there's still a number of things that we can potentially 00:51:44.680 --> 00:51:45.680 do. 00:51:45.680 --> 00:51:49.240 As an example, one of the things that we're going to be doing is some of these nine positions, 00:51:49.240 --> 00:51:52.920 some of those we're going to hold them for a little bit, we're not going to hire them 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.720 on October 1st, so we can finish out the year, see where we end up, so those are some strategies 00:51:58.720 --> 00:52:03.240 that we'll continue to put in place to make sure that we're being as responsible as we 00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:06.160 can with these rate increases. 00:52:06.160 --> 00:52:08.600 Thank you. 00:52:08.600 --> 00:52:09.600 Further questions? 00:52:09.600 --> 00:52:10.600 All right. 00:52:10.600 --> 00:52:16.440 Do we have a motion to approve the electric fiscal year 2024-25 operating and capital 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:17.440 budgets? 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.440 Mr. Rybak, Billy seconds. 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.440 All in favor say aye. 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:23.440 Aye. 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:24.440 Opposed? 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.280 Motion carries. 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:32.160 Consider recommending the customer service fiscal year 2024-25 operating budget. 00:52:32.160 --> 00:52:40.400 Okay, this is the last fund to present to you today and it's short and sweet. 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:47.440 So as you had seen previously, the customer service fund is proposing $230,200 in baseline 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:53.560 and supplemental requests and we've listed out what those requests are. 00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:58.320 And then as we talked about a little earlier, there are some position movements in regard 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:04.960 to the new 311 call center, so moving and reclassifying, which just means moving from 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:12.560 the funds for DME dispatchers to the 311 call center, so the 311 call center in the current 00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:20.200 year has six employees and starting October 1st, they'll have 10. 00:53:20.200 --> 00:53:24.160 So this is an overview of the customer service five-year forecast. 00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:37.160 We're proposing a budget of $11,965,917 and they don't have a capital improvement program. 00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:39.920 And so that's all we have. 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:40.920 Questions? 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:42.600 Short and sweet. 00:53:42.600 --> 00:53:48.480 All right, do we have a motion to approve the customer service fiscal year 2024-25 operating 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:49.480 budget? 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:50.480 Second. 00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.600 And Devin, second, all in favor, say aye. 00:53:54.600 --> 00:53:55.600 Aye. 00:53:55.600 --> 00:53:56.600 Carries. 00:53:56.600 --> 00:53:57.600 Okay. 00:53:57.600 --> 00:54:05.000 The remaining items on the agenda, there's four more, which are the recommendation of 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:10.880 the rate ordinances that will go to council for electric, water, wastewater, and solid 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:11.880 waste. 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:12.880 We don't have a presentation. 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.880 Those were included in the presentations you just saw. 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.360 All right, so we just need to take them each individually. 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:20.360 Yes. 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:27.040 All right, do we have a motion to approve establishing the rates and fees for wastewater 00:54:27.040 --> 00:54:33.760 service, repealing ordinance 22, 1857, and providing for repealer, providing for severability 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.600 clause, and providing an effective date. 00:54:36.600 --> 00:54:38.280 So moved. 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:39.280 So moved. 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:40.280 Mr. Cheek moves. 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:41.280 Second. 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:42.440 Aaron Newquist seconds. 00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:44.000 All in favor, say aye. 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.000 Aye. 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.000 Opposed? 00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.000 Carries. 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.160 Madam Chair, that was H right? 00:54:49.160 --> 00:54:50.720 I think we may have skipped G. 00:54:50.720 --> 00:54:51.720 Did I skip G? 00:54:51.720 --> 00:54:52.720 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:54:52.720 --> 00:54:53.720 That was H. 00:54:53.720 --> 00:54:54.720 Yes. 00:54:54.720 --> 00:54:55.720 Thank you. 00:54:55.720 --> 00:54:56.720 Thank you. 00:54:56.720 --> 00:54:57.720 All right. 00:54:57.720 --> 00:55:00.240 Let's go back to G. Consider recommending the adoption of ordinance for the city of 00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:05.440 Denton, Texas, establishing the rates for water service, providing for repealer, and 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.720 providing for severability clause, and providing an effective date. 00:55:09.720 --> 00:55:10.720 So moved. 00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:11.720 Devin moves. 00:55:11.720 --> 00:55:12.720 Do we have a second? 00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:13.720 Any seconds? 00:55:13.720 --> 00:55:14.720 All in favor? 00:55:14.720 --> 00:55:15.720 Aye. 00:55:15.720 --> 00:55:16.720 Okay. 00:55:16.720 --> 00:55:17.960 G is approved. 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.240 Consider recommending the adoption of the ordinance for the city of Denton, Texas, establishing 00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:27.080 the rates for electric service, providing for repealer, providing for severability clause, 00:55:27.080 --> 00:55:28.980 and providing for an effective date. 00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:30.840 Do we have a motion? 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:32.800 Devin moved. 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:33.800 Thomas seconds. 00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.800 All in favor, say aye. 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:36.800 Aye. 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:37.800 Opposed? 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:38.800 Carries. 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.640 Consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the city of Denton, Texas, establishing 00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:49.680 the rates for solid waste and recycling collection service, repealing ordinance 23-1736, providing 00:55:49.680 --> 00:55:55.160 for a repealer, providing for a severability clause, and providing an effective date. 00:55:55.160 --> 00:55:58.160 Do we have a motion? 00:55:58.160 --> 00:55:59.160 Okay. 00:55:59.160 --> 00:56:00.160 Thomas is going to move. 00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.160 Billy's going to second. 00:56:01.160 --> 00:56:02.160 All in favor? 00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:03.160 Say aye. 00:56:03.160 --> 00:56:04.160 Aye. 00:56:04.160 --> 00:56:05.160 Opposed? 00:56:05.160 --> 00:56:06.160 Motion carries. 00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:07.160 Management reports. 00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:08.160 Tony. 00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:15.960 Madam Chair, members of the PUB, so in your backup, we did include a memo from the water 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:16.960 department. 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:17.960 Stephen Gay is here. 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:22.240 I know it was some of the questions that you may have had already came in an earlier item, 00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:27.080 but if there are additional questions regarding the memo that Stephen provided, he's still 00:56:27.080 --> 00:56:28.080 here. 00:56:28.080 --> 00:56:33.160 Happy to have him come up here and answer your questions. 00:56:33.160 --> 00:56:36.960 With the water restrictions that we're on now, has there been any enforcement action 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:43.440 taken and if so, do we know the impact of that enforcement? 00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.840 Stephen Gay, Director of Water Utilities, no, we have not enforced those restrictions. 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:52.380 Thank you. 00:56:52.380 --> 00:56:57.960 Just to repeat the question, how soon do we anticipate the current restriction to be lifted? 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:02.680 Once the filter number 16 is fully back in service, so within two weeks. 00:57:02.680 --> 00:57:04.360 Dispute, possibly, two weeks. 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:05.360 Yes, sir. 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:06.360 Thank you. 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:10.240 And the recent rain helped. 00:57:10.240 --> 00:57:12.440 Yes, it did. 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:14.640 Yes, sir? 00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:19.040 So I've been following along on the Waterwise Denton site. 00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:24.520 I've been really impressed that every morning, I think it's by 8 a.m., you have updated with 00:57:24.520 --> 00:57:26.760 the previous day's stats and it's been really good. 00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:33.720 We were bouncing up in the stage trigger drought restrictions until the rain came and we had 00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:38.280 a significant, I don't know, 8 million dollar or 8 million or 6 million gallon decrease. 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.760 I don't know how big it is, but it's a big drop on the chart and you could see it daily. 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:49.380 It was really, I really appreciate that data being available to the public, almost live, 00:57:49.380 --> 00:57:50.380 like the next morning. 00:57:50.380 --> 00:57:51.380 You're very welcome. 00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:57.240 And our business partners at TWU and UNT and our parks departments really helped out as 00:57:57.240 --> 00:58:05.640 well because they significantly curtailed their use. 00:58:05.640 --> 00:58:11.240 I think it's about a 15 million gallon decrease from the peak to a few days ago during most 00:58:11.240 --> 00:58:12.240 of the rain. 00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:16.240 So that's a really significant change and it's really great to see it live, not hear 00:58:16.240 --> 00:58:19.120 about it a month later or that kind of thing. 00:58:19.120 --> 00:58:24.240 Those reports come out every morning at 7 a.m. so then we turn them right around. 00:58:24.240 --> 00:58:28.280 Well, I would like to thank you, sir, for that. 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.600 I was unaware it was available at the City of Denton website. 00:58:32.600 --> 00:58:33.600 It's Discuss Denton. 00:58:33.600 --> 00:58:36.600 We have our own site. 00:58:36.600 --> 00:58:42.360 All right, so the next item is just future agendas. 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.120 It's all blank. 00:58:44.120 --> 00:58:45.120 Don't think that we're not going to have meetings. 00:58:45.120 --> 00:58:46.120 We will. 00:58:46.120 --> 00:58:49.760 We're going to try to work on getting this populated a little bit better for the next 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:50.760 meeting. 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.480 I know there's a couple of items that will be coming for you. 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.240 I want to give you a heads up that way you can plan to be here for those. 00:58:57.240 --> 00:58:59.240 And then new business action. 00:58:59.240 --> 00:59:03.760 There was a request at the last meeting on this item from Stephen. 00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:05.760 He's provided that. 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:10.640 Solid Waste Department is also working on a question regarding card audits and they're 00:59:10.640 --> 00:59:16.680 planning to have that ready for the Board on the 14th of October and then still following 00:59:16.680 --> 00:59:20.280 up with Fleet on the one outstanding question on the EV vehicles. 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.960 But with that, happy to answer any questions you have or if there's anything else you'd 00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.960 like to request. 00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:31.520 All right, I guess not. 00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:32.520 Concluding items. 00:59:32.520 --> 00:59:36.360 Does any Board member wish to make a statement to the public or have a future agenda item 00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:37.360 added? 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:44.160 Seeing none, it is -- oh, 959. 00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:50.640 Motion to adjourn.