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 >> Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's planning and zoning commission

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 meeting for Wednesday, August 28th.

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 This is our work session.

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 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 5.05 p.m.

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 Let the record show that Commissioner Thaggard and Commissioner Villarreal are absent today.

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 First item on our work session is clarification of tonight's agenda.

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 First one being the minutes for August 14th.

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 Any questions about the minutes?

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 Okay.

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 Then we've got two individual consideration items.

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 The first being FP240025.

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 Mia, are you giving us any quick run down of that one, please?

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 Thank you.

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 >> Good evening.

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 Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner.

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 This is a final plat for 380 old north, located just north of 380 west of old north road.

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 They are not ready for approval at this time, so we are recommending denial.

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 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024.

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 Any questions?

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 >> Okay.

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 Questions for Mia?

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 Okay.

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 That will move us to FP240030.

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 >> Similarly, this is a plat actually in the city's ETJ, located at the northeast corner

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 of FM1173 and Mottch Branch Road.

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 Again, they are not ready for approval at this time, so we are recommending denial.

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 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024.

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 Any questions?

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 Okay.

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 Thanks, Mia.

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 4A and 4B, the applicant is requesting that be postponed indefinitely, so we will not

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 be taking action on either of those tonight.

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 So that will take us to 4CHL240002.

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 Karen is here and ready for a summary of that.

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 Hi.

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 >> Hi.

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 Thank you, chair and commission.

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 Let me pull up this, okay.

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 Sorry, okay.

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 So before I begin, just want to kind of give a background about historic landmark.

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 I know we have some new commissioners who have not seen a historic landmark designation

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 come through yet, so just want to give a brief background before I go over a summary.

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 So in terms of what is a historic landmark, in this instance, we're working specifically

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 with a building.

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 It is one that's officially recognized by the city for its outstanding architectural,

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 archaeological, cultural, social, economic, ethnic, or political, historical significance.

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 Right now in the city, we have 65 local historic landmark designations, and as y'all are well

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 aware, this is a zoning action, so it is a three-step process.

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 It first went to the Historic Landmark Commission for review, then it comes to the Planning

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 and Zoning Commission for review, and then lastly, the City Council for final approval.

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 So just quickly, some of the benefits of a historic landmark, there are property owner

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 benefits as well as community benefits.

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 I have a bunch of bullet points listed, but I'll kind of highlight that the popular ones,

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 property owner benefits, it does make them eligible for a local historic tax exemption.

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 It does provide that kind of invisible recognition with a plaque on the property.

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 Some of the community benefits, it does encourage better design because there are some design

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 standards that come with that.

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 It also protects from swift demolition, and then it does discourage kind of that sprawl

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 and it looks towards reuse of those historic structures.

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 So jumping into my summary, it is a historic landmark designation for 1526 Willowwood Street.

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 The zoning is R3.

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 It is located in the Deenia neighborhood.

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 It does meet our Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan, our goal community character two, as

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 well as our 2019 Historic Preservation Plan, goal number one, policy 1.3.

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 So staff is recommending approval as it does comply with those two plans as well as our

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 Denton Development Code criteria.

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 And I can stand for any questions.

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 Thank you.

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 Any questions?

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 Oh, Commissioner Prud?

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 Thank you, Chair.

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 I really enjoyed the backup on this, thank you.

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 In general, as we see more of these coming through, which I think is a realization of

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 some of the goals from the Comprehensive Plan, I would like to better understand how we should

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 evaluate the priority of different applications.

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 You know, we've done a lot of surveys.

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 We have thousands of properties identified as eligible.

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 And somewhere between zero and thousands is the right number of the right mix of types

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 of properties or types of things we want to preserve, right?

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 So I just, I would feel better understanding more than a pass/fail checklist, which is

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 kind of how our Comprehensive, I'm sorry, how our Development Code is structured.

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 And so I understand that's why the goals and that sort of thing are structured that way.

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 But I would feel better knowing, oh, actually, you know, because of so-and-so somebody or,

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 well, this is a past council member and that was a particularly highly rated thing that

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 we wanted to preserve, that sort of thing, right?

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 So anyway, and I did want to point out that, you know, the reference to the live-work architecture

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 within this structure, I think, actually, you wouldn't be able to build this building

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 right now, even if it were zoned for a live-work area, because our code requires the commercial

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 portion to be more than 50% of the total square footage.

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 So it seems a little strange, but that's all.

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 Thank you.

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 Thanks, Commissioner McHurd.

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 I think I'm confused as to what you want.

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 Are you wanting to do something as far as the information we're getting?

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 No.

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 I think all the backup and information on individual properties is very helpful.

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 I feel like I'm not sure how to weight different applications as they come forward in the future.

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 So sorry, I'm not better at explaining that.

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 No, that's okay.

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 I'll just like have Cameron.

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 So do we have a glut of applications?

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 So this is our second application of the year.

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 For I think over five years, we had not received any applications.

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 So this is the most we've seen since I've been here since 2021.

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 And I'm hoping that we see more come in the future.

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 But in comparison to the eligible properties, which is in the thousands, it's over I think

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 close to 3,000 properties that are currently eligible, we're not seeing as big of an influx

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 of people interested in designation as we would hope from the preservation program.

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 So are you trying to find a way to get people?

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 Because it's not like the city can go and say, "Hey, let's designate your house."

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 No, I completely understand how it's a voluntary thing.

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 I mean, maybe there's more we can do in promotion of it.

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 I'm thinking more from a...because it's a voluntary thing, all I'm aware of is we have

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 this program and if somebody finds out about it and they come apply, then if it passes

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 the rubrics, then you're in.

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 If there's some way of saying, "Okay, well, this one on some grading scale of whatever

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 it is, is one that we really want," as opposed to, "Well, it's eligible, but it's not as

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 high priority," or something like that.

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 Does that make any sense?

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 I mean, it does.

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 I just don't know how they could use it in the sense that, again, you're not going to

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 go knock on a homeowner's door and say, "Hey, we think that this is a number one priority."

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 I was just saying...

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 Oh, sorry.

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 No, go ahead.

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 No, please.

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 I think to maybe better answer your question or inquiry is, when it comes to historic structures,

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 if we find something that's eligible, that means it's a high priority, whether it's not

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 a high priority to the community, it's a high priority to preserve that structure historically

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 due to its architectural significance, cultural significance.

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 It really is on going to the Historic Landmark Commission.

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 If they task me with reaching out to a property owner, I do that, or the property owner coming

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 to staff and requesting it, but we don't really grade high, medium, low in terms of historic

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 preservation anymore.

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 We used to.

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 In a lot of our surveys, our 1996 survey, for instance, does high, medium, low, but

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 the Texas Historical Commission and surveys moving forward, they've switched to, if it's

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 eligible, it's eligible, and it's just as a priority as what we used to rank.

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 I understand what you're saying.

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 I do think it's a little bit difficult for staff to pick and choose.

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 I think it would have to be more of a community feedback where we get that community feedback

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 saying, "What do you think is a priority?

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 Let's go for those first, and then we can work down our eligible list."

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 But currently, as we have it, anything that's eligible, that's a high priority.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 So basically, you're saying that.

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 I mean, it all weights out the same.

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 One's not.

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 If it makes the list, it would be something that-

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 Just as important as the next one.

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 Yeah.

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 Yeah.

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 Thank you.

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 Yeah.

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 Commissioner Cole.

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 Thank you, Chair.

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 So I was curious about the exemption.

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 I mean, what amount is that tax exemption for historic?

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 It is currently 50% of your city property tax, and it lasts for 10 years, and you can

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 reapply, but you have to spend a minimum of $10,000 to even be eligible to reapply.

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 So there does have to be some cost by the property owner.

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 Thank you.

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 Of course.

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 Anything else?

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 No?

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 Okay.

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 Let's go to our next one.

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 Okay.

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 HL240003.

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 Thank you, Chair and Commissioner Cameron Robertson, Historic Preservation Officer.

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 This one I'll jump into a little bit more quickly.

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 So to summarize, it is a historic landmark designation for 1900 Westridge Street.

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 It's also located in the Denia neighborhood and zoned R3.

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 It does meet our Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan Goal CC2, as well as our 2019 Historic

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 Preservation Plan.

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 So staff is recommending approval as it does comply with both of those plans, as well as

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 our Denton Development Code criteria put forth.

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 Any questions?

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 Thanks.

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 I'm Ellen.

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 Lovely.

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 Mount Miller.

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 I'm excited to always see them, so great.

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 Thank you, Cameron.

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 Our final public hearing item for tonight is 4E DCA240010.

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 Leah is making her way up here.

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 Hi.

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 Hello.

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 Give me a moment to find it.

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 Give me a hand, I'm having a bit of trouble finding it, but we're just on our plan.

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 Oh, oops.

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 Thank you.

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 There we go.

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 You're right.

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 Understood.

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 Can I present in PDF?

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 Okay.

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 We'll do it like this.

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 Good evening.

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 Leah Atkinson, Housing Programs Coordinator.

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 Good to see you, Commission.

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 We are here to talk about the proposed affordability incentive amendment.

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 I'll just give a high level of review and answer any questions.

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 I won't go through the whole presentation.

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 These are the nine incentives as proposed.

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 We've seen them a few times.

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 Can we maybe expand that?

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 It probably will look better on screen.

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 I think it's to take away the boarder.

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 Can you do that?

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 I'm thinking it's the button next to the X, yeah.

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 Is it F11?

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 There we go.

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 Thank you.

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 Yeah.

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 Much better for a video view.

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 Absolutely.

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 Thank you.

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 Yeah, thank you.

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 These are the nine incentives as proposed.

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 You've seen them before.

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 It's a 20% deviation from minimum yard and setback requirements, maximum building coverage,

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 minimum lot width, depth and area, maximum building height, and minimum unit size, as

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 well as 10 point reduction from the landscaping area point system and a parking reduction

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 down to one spot per affordable dwelling unit.

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 In exchange, this is the updated table as directed by this commission last time we spoke.

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 This would be the affordability chart that residential developments would offer in exchange

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 for those incentives.

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 So if three or fewer incentives are utilized, it would begin at 20% of the units being affordable,

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 broken down over three different income categories.

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 The duration of that affordability would be 30 years, no matter the number of incentives

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 utilized, which was also the direction of this commission.

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 I think I'll go ahead and leave it there unless you all have any further questions or anything

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 else today.

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 Any questions?

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 I know we've gone over this before.

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 Okay.

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 Okay.

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 Thanks so much.

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 We'll see you in public session.

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 Thank you.

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 Okay.

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 That ends our agenda.

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 So then we'll go right into our work session reports.

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 The first being 2A, PZ24174, Brice is here, oh, Julie is here.

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 I didn't have an agenda, so I was like, is that me?

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 I think Brice is first.

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 On the agenda, yeah.

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 I didn't know if you were being Brice or what was happening, but.

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 I was a little confused as well.

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 Julie really wants to present this, I know.

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 Good evening, commission.

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 Brice Van Arsdale, assistant planner.

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 This is DCA 240011.

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 Staff is requesting direction regarding changes to the Denton Development Code in relation

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 to domestic animal land uses.

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 Currently, most domestic animal land uses will fall under either kennel or personal

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 service general land use definitions.

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 However, as the market has developed, we often see many of these uses under the same building.

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 For instance, a doggy daycare will include daycare services, overnight boarding, as well

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 as grooming and training, all under the same roof.

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 With the two existing definitions, I'll call your attention first to kennel, which specifically

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 calls out overnight boarding, as well as personal service general, which you'll see highlighted

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 at the bottom, specifically calls out pet grooming shops.

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 As just mentioned, we often see these under the same roof, which leaves staff in a bit

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 of a murky area when trying to interpret this and apply the correct standards.

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 We are applying or proposing two separate definitions we added to the Denton Development

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 Code.

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 They both relate to the grooming, boarding, adoption, or daycare services of domestic

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 animals while excluding veterinary care in the sale of these animals.

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 The differentiation between the indoor and the outdoor will be made with the use specific

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 standards.

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 One note here with the commercial animal services, they are very similar to the zoning districts

00:16:11.300 --> 00:16:13.140
 in which a veterinary clinic is allowed.

00:16:13.140 --> 00:16:17.900
 The major difference being made is that the outdoor use is not permitted in the MN or

00:16:17.900 --> 00:16:22.180
 MD zoning districts.

00:16:22.180 --> 00:16:25.140
 With the use specific standards, there are quite a few words there, but there are two

00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:28.780
 key takeaways that I would like you guys to take away from this.

00:16:28.780 --> 00:16:34.540
 First, when there's a residential zoning district adjacent to or within the property that the

00:16:34.540 --> 00:16:39.800
 building is or the proposed business is being located in, we do require that there's a distance

00:16:39.800 --> 00:16:43.820
 minimum between any outdoor component and the adjacent property.

00:16:43.820 --> 00:16:47.540
 Additionally, this outdoor component will have a time restriction on it in which the

00:16:47.540 --> 00:16:52.220
 business owner cannot utilize that area after a specific time.

00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:56.340
 With the second use specific standard, the commercial animal service indoor will be limited

00:16:56.340 --> 00:17:02.380
 to no more than 50% of the building the proposed business be allocated for an outdoor element.

00:17:02.380 --> 00:17:07.340
 In the mixed use zoning districts, this 50% is further restricted to 25% that can be allocated

00:17:07.340 --> 00:17:11.900
 as an outdoor component for these businesses.

00:17:11.900 --> 00:17:15.420
 You'll notice that the definitions and the amendments for commercial stable as well as

00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:18.220
 personal service general are fairly minor in nature.

00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:22.580
 However, we are removing kennel from the Denton Development Code as this does, any proposed

00:17:22.580 --> 00:17:27.940
 kennel will now fall under the commercial animal services definitions.

00:17:27.940 --> 00:17:32.900
 Additionally, we did make two minor edits to the use specific standards for veterinary

00:17:32.900 --> 00:17:33.900
 clinics.

00:17:33.900 --> 00:17:38.180
 Generally, these apply to onsite livestock veterinary care.

00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:40.260
 Just as a point of clarity, it is rare that we see that.

00:17:40.260 --> 00:17:44.100
 More often than not, these veterinarians are going onsite to treat these animals, but as

00:17:44.100 --> 00:17:50.380
 the city continues to grow, we wanted to provide that protection for these businesses.

00:17:50.380 --> 00:17:55.460
 Both of the proposed definitions will fall under the one space per 500 square foot per

00:17:55.460 --> 00:17:57.780
 gross floor area parking requirement.

00:17:57.780 --> 00:18:01.500
 This is consistent with the established veterinarian clinic.

00:18:01.500 --> 00:18:06.020
 The staff is requesting direction regarding these amendments, and I am here to listen

00:18:06.020 --> 00:18:08.060
 for any feedback, questions, or comments.

00:18:08.060 --> 00:18:12.820
 I know I have a few things.

00:18:12.820 --> 00:18:13.820
 Absolutely.

00:18:13.820 --> 00:18:19.060
 Can you go back to the ... I think it's the first slide.

00:18:19.060 --> 00:18:26.260
 This is going to ... This is me ... No, keep going.

00:18:26.260 --> 00:18:31.400
 The wording on this makes my brain hurt.

00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:37.860
 Is there a way ... I'm assuming what you're trying to say is primary located indoors or

00:18:37.860 --> 00:18:41.900
 primary located outdoors for these commercial animal services.

00:18:41.900 --> 00:18:51.260
 Can we switch that wording so that it is an establishment or business related to grooming,

00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:56.500
 boarding adopted, domestic animals, blah, blah, blah, which is primary located indoors,

00:18:56.500 --> 00:18:57.860
 excluding veterinary clinics?

00:18:57.860 --> 00:18:58.860
 Sure.

00:18:58.860 --> 00:19:00.100
 Can we switch?

00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:07.140
 Because it is hard the way that it reads right now what you're trying to say about what's

00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:10.540
 located indoors, and it sounds like veterinary clinics.

00:19:10.540 --> 00:19:11.820
 Absolutely.

00:19:11.820 --> 00:19:20.620
 That's just my English coming out, English training.

00:19:20.620 --> 00:19:31.460
 I'm working on the red line here.

00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:40.220
 We're allowing this commercial animal use in MN and MD, where before with kennels we

00:19:40.220 --> 00:19:41.860
 didn't have it like that.

00:19:41.860 --> 00:19:45.140
 Just wondering how staff came to that decision.

00:19:45.140 --> 00:19:46.580
 Yeah, absolutely.

00:19:46.580 --> 00:19:51.660
 With the MN and MD, specifically the indoor, we do allow something like a veterinary clinic

00:19:51.660 --> 00:19:55.420
 or a personal service, for instance, you'll see is the bottom line.

00:19:55.420 --> 00:19:59.660
 Anything that's like a grooming or a daycare service, those will also fall under that definition,

00:19:59.660 --> 00:20:01.420
 so we do want to allow for that.

00:20:01.420 --> 00:20:08.260
 However, with the use specific standards, I believe it's B2B2, you'll see we do require

00:20:08.260 --> 00:20:13.380
 a specific use permit in these zoning districts, as well as further restrict that outdoor component.

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:20.300
 Okay, and did you just decide that, I mean, they should be allowed here?

00:20:20.300 --> 00:20:21.300
 Yeah.

00:20:21.300 --> 00:20:22.300
 Yeah, totally.

00:20:22.300 --> 00:20:23.300
 Just because?

00:20:23.300 --> 00:20:24.300
 No, totally fair.

00:20:24.300 --> 00:20:28.900
 So we really based that on the personal service, which is where the pet grooming shops currently

00:20:28.900 --> 00:20:31.140
 fall under.

00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:32.140
 That helps me.

00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:35.540
 That's what I was trying to follow where you were following on that table.

00:20:35.540 --> 00:20:40.380
 That's exactly the answer I needed for that question, thank you.

00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:45.140
 Then the whole commercial stable thing, is that not a commercial animal service, I guess?

00:20:45.140 --> 00:20:48.980
 So we do leave that as its own definition still, since it's more, it's less about the

00:20:48.980 --> 00:20:53.580
 domestic animals, which are specified within the definition of commercial animal services.

00:20:53.580 --> 00:20:57.500
 We did change that definition slightly just to meet livestock, which is now defined under

00:20:57.500 --> 00:20:58.500
 the code of ordinances.

00:20:58.500 --> 00:20:59.500
 Okay, okay.

00:20:59.500 --> 00:21:01.940
 Yeah, I was just trying to understand why it was not that.

00:21:01.940 --> 00:21:10.060
 That helps me, thank you.

00:21:10.060 --> 00:21:20.020
 Here we've got the enclosed building requirement, that's item three, what was that, B23, I think.

00:21:20.020 --> 00:21:21.700
 The very bottom there?

00:21:21.700 --> 00:21:22.700
 Yeah.

00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:25.100
 And I don't know if this is even possible.

00:21:25.100 --> 00:21:29.260
 Can we say it has to be air conditioned, or is that not a thing we're allowed to do?

00:21:29.260 --> 00:21:31.340
 I'd probably go to Hillary for that one.

00:21:31.340 --> 00:21:32.340
 This is pretty standard language.

00:21:32.340 --> 00:21:33.340
 Okay.

00:21:33.340 --> 00:21:36.020
 There are several different definitions that have this use specific standard, and it is

00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:40.260
 standard language for what we have already on the DDC.

00:21:40.260 --> 00:21:48.780
 Yeah, I mean, it's just, I can't imagine somebody having that without, but also, I also know

00:21:48.780 --> 00:21:53.740
 that people are not always the most humane with animals.

00:21:53.740 --> 00:21:54.740
 Absolutely.

00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:55.740
 Happy looking into it.

00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:56.740
 Yeah, thank you.

00:21:56.740 --> 00:21:57.740
 Yes, ma'am.

00:21:57.740 --> 00:22:05.580
 Okay, so there's that, I'm just going through my notes, make sure I asked you all of them.

00:22:05.580 --> 00:22:15.140
 Let me answer that, oh, this last one I have, actually, I'm sorry, I have two more.

00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:21.140
 The 150 feet of an adjacent property residential, so that's B1A?

00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:23.580
 Yes, ma'am.

00:22:23.580 --> 00:22:28.820
 That seems close to me, was that here before, or?

00:22:28.820 --> 00:22:32.500
 Yeah, so it was not previously established, but it is something that we looked at some

00:22:32.500 --> 00:22:34.940
 other municipalities, what their standards were.

00:22:34.940 --> 00:22:40.300
 We also spoke with Animal Services, and unfortunately, their opinion was it really doesn't matter

00:22:40.300 --> 00:22:45.420
 how far it is, dogs are allowed, but 150 feet does allow for odors, anything like mess or

00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:49.580
 anything like that to stay on the initial property, on the subject property rather than

00:22:49.580 --> 00:22:52.940
 being spread, and it helps with the noise a little bit, but not like we'd like to see

00:22:52.940 --> 00:22:53.940
 in a larger property.

00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:58.100
 Yeah, it just still seems very close to me, 150 feet's not that far from a residential

00:22:58.100 --> 00:23:02.820
 house.

00:23:02.820 --> 00:23:16.740
 My last one has, going back to the definition, in the backup, it mentioned cat cafes as being

00:23:16.740 --> 00:23:20.260
 maybe something, somebody has come forth, and I can believe that they're in so many

00:23:20.260 --> 00:23:23.660
 cities now, but how does this definition help with that?

00:23:23.660 --> 00:23:24.660
 Absolutely.

00:23:24.660 --> 00:23:25.660
 I don't see that.

00:23:25.660 --> 00:23:26.660
 We just had the same conversation.

00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:27.660
 Okay.

00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:31.580
 Yeah, so we do think that that would fall under the boarding instance of this definition.

00:23:31.580 --> 00:23:34.740
 It would also depend on the primary use of the business based on the square footage,

00:23:34.740 --> 00:23:37.980
 whether it be a restaurant or that sort of thing, and this may be an accessory use to

00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:38.980
 that restaurant.

00:23:38.980 --> 00:23:41.840
 So you're going to interpret it as boarding?

00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:44.500
 If the animals are staying overnight, yes ma'am.

00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:48.300
 It would also, if they're doing, some of these are adoption in an effort to have people spend

00:23:48.300 --> 00:23:51.220
 time with these animals, that sort of thing, so that would be another way that we capture

00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:52.220
 that.

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:53.220
 Okay.

00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:54.220
 Okay.

00:23:54.220 --> 00:23:59.000
 I'm going to let someone else talk now, thank you for answering my questions, if anyone

00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.000
 has questions.

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:01.940
 I'm going to let you finish your prayer.

00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:02.940
 Just a few short ones.

00:24:02.940 --> 00:24:08.460
 First, can you go back to the why slide that you had?

00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:20.380
 Yeah, so I'm trying to read into these bullets to understand, have we had a difficulty categorizing

00:24:20.380 --> 00:24:21.380
 applications?

00:24:21.380 --> 00:24:22.380
 Absolutely.

00:24:22.380 --> 00:24:23.380
 Okay.

00:24:23.380 --> 00:24:25.260
 So there's been a lot of doggie daycares, for instance, at Camp Bow while I was applied

00:24:25.260 --> 00:24:29.060
 recently, and I believe we're taking that as a personal service general use.

00:24:29.060 --> 00:24:33.940
 However, it doesn't totally meet that, as we do have overnight boarding with that, as

00:24:33.940 --> 00:24:38.760
 well as the training and some other land uses underneath that umbrella.

00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:43.380
 So it does leave staff in a little bit of a gray area in which one to interpret.

00:24:43.380 --> 00:24:44.380
 Okay.

00:24:44.380 --> 00:24:45.380
 Okay.

00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:52.140
 Just because kennel wasn't the automatic bucket if there was overnight boarding necessarily?

00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:53.140
 Unfortunately not.

00:24:53.140 --> 00:24:54.140
 Okay.

00:24:54.140 --> 00:25:02.060
 So that strikes me as the core nugget of the challenge that we're trying to solve, correct

00:25:02.060 --> 00:25:03.060
 me if I'm wrong.

00:25:03.060 --> 00:25:04.060
 No, absolutely.

00:25:04.060 --> 00:25:08.380
 So kennel itself is more or less an antiquated business use where we don't just see boarding

00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:09.380
 anymore.

00:25:09.380 --> 00:25:12.260
 More often than not, we now see the grooming, the training, the daycare, all these into

00:25:12.260 --> 00:25:13.260
 the same building.

00:25:13.260 --> 00:25:14.260
 Okay.

00:25:14.260 --> 00:25:19.660
 Just two other questions, I think, to the same slide that Commissioner Ellis requested.

00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:22.980
 No, sorry.

00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:23.980
 That one, yes.

00:25:23.980 --> 00:25:35.860
 On the enclosed building requirement, this is B sub item three that would apply to outdoor.

00:25:35.860 --> 00:25:40.340
 And then we're saying that all the boarding has to be indoors?

00:25:40.340 --> 00:25:41.340
 Yeah.

00:25:41.340 --> 00:25:45.620
 So any boarding that is interior to, well, I'm sorry.

00:25:45.620 --> 00:25:46.620
 Yeah.

00:25:46.620 --> 00:25:47.620
 So any boarding must be indoors.

00:25:47.620 --> 00:25:50.420
 We won't allow an outdoor kennel to be proposed.

00:25:50.420 --> 00:25:51.420
 Okay.

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:59.620
 I just know many of them are outside of the city limits, but there are several animal

00:25:59.620 --> 00:26:10.280
 boarding facilities that have a desirable amenity where an animal may have a private

00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:13.540
 indoor area as well as an outdoor area that they can go.

00:26:13.540 --> 00:26:17.500
 And by reading this, it sounds like that would not be allowed, that they would have to restrict

00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:19.140
 them to the animal staying indoors.

00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:23.060
 So I believe we would still allow that, but I think a lot of these places do have more

00:26:23.060 --> 00:26:26.140
 or less like a doggie door that the dog's able to go in and out of that can be shut

00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:29.500
 after a certain time, which would also apply to the noise.

00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:30.500
 Okay.

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:40.100
 So it's really just, the intention then is to ensure that the boarding of animals overnight

00:26:40.100 --> 00:26:42.340
 is contained indoors as opposed to...

00:26:42.340 --> 00:26:47.220
 That as well as a bit of the AC thought as well, where we don't want to just have dogs

00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:48.220
 sitting in full sun.

00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:52.180
 There's an indoor area available and they're not left outdoors at night.

00:26:52.180 --> 00:26:53.180
 Absolutely.

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:54.180
 Okay.

00:26:54.180 --> 00:26:55.180
 So I don't see that in the language.

00:26:55.180 --> 00:27:01.740
 I don't know if it needs to be clarified to describe that, but that's what I see.

00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:13.540
 And then the indoor services, right, that's kind of would be the new bucket for animal

00:27:13.540 --> 00:27:16.460
 personal services.

00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:25.100
 There's many grooming facilities that don't board the animals overnight, but they do have

00:27:25.100 --> 00:27:30.460
 some crates or kennels that they keep the animals in and they might keep them there

00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:34.180
 and phase them just for efficiency reasons over a period of a number of hours.

00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:37.540
 I imagine that they do need to go to the bathroom.

00:27:37.540 --> 00:27:38.900
 Absolutely.

00:27:38.900 --> 00:27:50.900
 And I'm concerned that the hard SUP requirement for any outdoor activity would not allow a

00:27:50.900 --> 00:27:57.580
 pet grooming shop essentially in the MN and MD districts.

00:27:57.580 --> 00:27:58.580
 Does that make sense?

00:27:58.580 --> 00:27:59.580
 It does.

00:27:59.580 --> 00:28:02.780
 And I don't know if that's really the intention to restrict that.

00:28:02.780 --> 00:28:04.460
 So that's one concern I see.

00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:05.460
 Sure.

00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:09.260
 I'm looking into that for the public hearing.

00:28:09.260 --> 00:28:17.820
 I think possibly your issue about the enclosed might be taken care of with B1B where it talks

00:28:17.820 --> 00:28:22.500
 about outdoor can't be used after 9 p.m.

00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:27.420
 Because most of those runs, I mean, a typical kennel is going to close that dog door overnight.

00:28:27.420 --> 00:28:32.780
 They're not going to let the dogs run free at night with no supervision and their staff

00:28:32.780 --> 00:28:35.660
 doesn't work overnight.

00:28:35.660 --> 00:28:36.660
 Okay.

00:28:36.660 --> 00:28:40.420
 Do you have anything you're good on your questions?

00:28:40.420 --> 00:28:41.980
 No, I'm good.

00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:47.260
 And maybe it's just that I'm not also looking at the definition of animal boarding or something

00:28:47.260 --> 00:28:53.820
 that I don't grasp what that sub item three is grasping or covering, if you will.

00:28:53.820 --> 00:28:54.820
 Got it.

00:28:54.820 --> 00:28:55.820
 Okay.

00:28:55.820 --> 00:28:56.820
 Thank you.

00:28:56.820 --> 00:28:57.820
 Got it.

00:28:57.820 --> 00:28:58.820
 Understood.

00:28:58.820 --> 00:28:59.820
 Anything else?

00:28:59.820 --> 00:29:00.820
 No.

00:29:00.820 --> 00:29:01.820
 Thanks for this.

00:29:01.820 --> 00:29:02.820
 Thanks for this.

00:29:02.820 --> 00:29:03.820
 Yeah.

00:29:03.820 --> 00:29:08.220
 It's interesting that we had, you know, the dog stuff under personal services because all

00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:11.780
 of that seemed to be like human services and dog grooming, you know.

00:29:11.780 --> 00:29:12.780
 Absolutely.

00:29:12.780 --> 00:29:13.780
 Yeah.

00:29:13.780 --> 00:29:14.780
 It's probably a good thing that we're –

00:29:14.780 --> 00:29:15.780
 We tagged it on.

00:29:15.780 --> 00:29:16.780
 Yeah.

00:29:16.780 --> 00:29:17.780
 It was funny.

00:29:17.780 --> 00:29:18.780
 Okay.

00:29:18.780 --> 00:29:19.780
 Thanks, Bryce.

00:29:19.780 --> 00:29:20.780
 We'll see you.

00:29:20.780 --> 00:29:21.780
 Awesome.

00:29:21.780 --> 00:29:22.780
 Thank you.

00:29:22.780 --> 00:29:24.900
 Let's see.

00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:30.500
 Now it's Julie's show for 2B PZ24173 Received Report.

00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:36.180
 Hold the discussion regarding implementation of the 20/40 Comprehensive Plan.

00:29:36.180 --> 00:29:37.900
 I apologize for jumping the gun.

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:41.140
 I got really excited about talking about the comp plan.

00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:53.180
 All right, I'm Julie Wyatt, and I am presenting the annual report for the Denton 20/40 Comprehensive

00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:56.820
 Plan to you tonight.

00:29:56.820 --> 00:30:04.180
 Just as a refresher, the Denton 20/40 Comprehensive Plan was adopted in March of 2022.

00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:10.100
 Within the plan – and it contains – there are eight chapters, also known as elements

00:30:10.100 --> 00:30:12.020
 within the plan.

00:30:12.020 --> 00:30:18.140
 Within those eight chapters are 548 recommended actions to implement the plan.

00:30:18.140 --> 00:30:29.260
 In order to make that a more manageable amount, we synthesized those 548 into 253 key actions.

00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:36.340
 The key actions are a combination of a variety of recommended actions.

00:30:36.340 --> 00:30:38.980
 They are organized in four timeframes.

00:30:38.980 --> 00:30:44.780
 The short, which is three years from plan adoption, mid-term, three to five years, long-term,

00:30:44.780 --> 00:30:52.180
 beyond that five years, and then ongoing, and those are those actions that are continued

00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:56.380
 and addressed on that continuing basis.

00:30:56.380 --> 00:31:03.020
 This is that framework to guide our decision making for our goals, as well as our allotment

00:31:03.020 --> 00:31:08.740
 of resources, as well as that task list for us to follow.

00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:11.540
 I mentioned there's the eight chapters.

00:31:11.540 --> 00:31:15.820
 There are key actions associated with each chapter.

00:31:15.820 --> 00:31:20.740
 Some of those key actions may cross chapters, but generally they're associated with a

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.700
 specific chapter.

00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:33.220
 We have accomplished, or have ongoing, 95 of the 253 key actions within the Comprehensive

00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:41.460
 Plan over the last year, and of the 58 short-term actions, 13 of those were completed, and that's

00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:42.940
 22%.

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:46.460
 It's been a busy year.

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:48.500
 In the past, we've just talked about a list.

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:52.860
 We thought we'd do it a little differently this year, and just talk about some highlights.

00:31:52.860 --> 00:31:58.300
 What we're going to go through is just not everything that we accomplished, not all 95

00:31:58.300 --> 00:32:02.780
 actions, but we're just going to talk about some things that we thought you might be interested

00:32:02.780 --> 00:32:07.460
 in knowing a little bit more about, and just some of those highlights.

00:32:07.460 --> 00:32:10.660
 We're going to start first with our area planning efforts.

00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:12.140
 I won't go into a lot of detail.

00:32:12.140 --> 00:32:17.700
 I know you've talked about these things a lot, but we've had two area plans.

00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:18.740
 One has been accomplished.

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:21.140
 The Southeast Denton Area Plan was adopted.

00:32:21.140 --> 00:32:24.740
 Design Downtown Denton is going through that public hearing process.

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:29.340
 As you know, this is going to guide our zoning decisions and community investment for both

00:32:29.340 --> 00:32:31.840
 of these areas over the next 20 years.

00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:38.460
 This is related to Chapter 2, Chapter 4, and Chapter 7, so it really crosses a lot of chapters.

00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:43.260
 It's a lot of that comprehensive plan, and quite a few key actions that you can see on

00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:47.380
 the bottom of your screen.

00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:52.340
 Staff has also worked on maintaining a vibrant and historic downtown square.

00:32:52.340 --> 00:32:57.940
 I don't know how many of you know about the Downtown Reinvestment Grant, but we do have

00:32:57.940 --> 00:33:02.020
 the Downtown Reinvestment Grant within the City of Denton, and that can include funds

00:33:02.020 --> 00:33:11.500
 for exterior facade rehabilitation, fire suppression on the square, asbestos abatement, accessibility

00:33:11.500 --> 00:33:15.620
 improvements, it can go to impact fee reimbursement.

00:33:15.620 --> 00:33:25.860
 It is a 50% match with a cap of $50,000, and the exterior work needs to comply with the

00:33:25.860 --> 00:33:31.580
 Denton Square District, and that is the zoning overlay within our downtown area, and that's

00:33:31.580 --> 00:33:37.140
 further supports the historic preservation efforts within the City of Denton and on the

00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:38.500
 square.

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:44.060
 If you weren't aware of the Downtown Reinvestment Grant, you've probably seen it in action,

00:33:44.060 --> 00:33:49.940
 because McNeils was one of those buildings that did use that grant, and you could see

00:33:49.940 --> 00:33:54.500
 McNeils here, you could see its evolution at the top.

00:33:54.500 --> 00:34:01.460
 Here it is, here it was for, I don't know when that facade was put on, but it was recently

00:34:01.460 --> 00:34:08.660
 removed, and now you can see that that street frontage looks more like it did many decades

00:34:08.660 --> 00:34:09.660
 ago.

00:34:09.660 --> 00:34:15.780
 So it's a really successful program, it's something that Karen works a lot on as our

00:34:15.780 --> 00:34:17.980
 historic preservation officer.

00:34:17.980 --> 00:34:22.980
 She coordinates with the property owners to make sure that they stay in compliance with

00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:23.980
 the regulations.

00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:29.340
 Also, our main street coordinator works tirelessly with this grant to make sure that we keep

00:34:29.340 --> 00:34:35.300
 the buildings in compliance and make sure that we have all the necessary information

00:34:35.300 --> 00:34:37.140
 from the property owners.

00:34:37.140 --> 00:34:41.340
 Also the downtown ambassadors, if you've been downtown, you've seen the people with the

00:34:41.340 --> 00:34:49.100
 red shirts, they have removed 655 items of graffiti between February and July of this

00:34:49.100 --> 00:34:50.100
 year.

00:34:50.100 --> 00:34:52.980
 That is a lot, so they have been working hard.

00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:59.540
 This is related to not only land use but also our fiscal and economic vitality, our community

00:34:59.540 --> 00:35:06.420
 character and design, and a whole lot of key actions shown at the bottom of your screen.

00:35:06.420 --> 00:35:09.660
 Our Denton Enterprise Airport has also been busy.

00:35:09.660 --> 00:35:16.060
 They have, they're primarily related to our fiscal and economic vitality as well as our

00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:20.280
 mobility because think planes are another mobility option.

00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.460
 Two things I wanted to highlight that they've been working on are our aviation exploring

00:35:24.460 --> 00:35:25.460
 program.

00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:27.220
 I learned about this from them.

00:35:27.220 --> 00:35:28.720
 It's a really neat program.

00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:32.300
 It is for our community's youth ages 14 to 20.

00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:37.600
 If they are interested in the aviation industry, it allows them activities that they can participate

00:35:37.600 --> 00:35:42.180
 in flight simulations, airport tours, guest speakers, networking with people from the

00:35:42.180 --> 00:35:47.680
 aviation industry, and a lot of other workshops that give them some hands-on experience.

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:49.580
 It also emphasizes leadership.

00:35:49.580 --> 00:35:52.520
 They want to build leaders within our community.

00:35:52.520 --> 00:35:55.020
 As of today, 20 participants have enrolled.

00:35:55.020 --> 00:35:57.700
 You can see the picture on your screen.

00:35:57.700 --> 00:36:01.500
 According to Ryan at the airport, they had a standing room only at their informational

00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:05.240
 meetings this summer, so it's been really popular.

00:36:05.240 --> 00:36:08.780
 I do have a link there if you're interested.

00:36:08.780 --> 00:36:14.060
 Our airport's done a lot of work in the last year reaching out not only to Denton ISD,

00:36:14.060 --> 00:36:19.860
 to our younger folks, but also coordinating with TWU in their aviation program.

00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:21.620
 They've done a lot of outreach.

00:36:21.620 --> 00:36:24.220
 They've also kicked off their master plan.

00:36:24.220 --> 00:36:27.760
 Just like in planning, we do comprehensive planning and area plans, the airport also

00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.980
 has a plan.

00:36:29.980 --> 00:36:31.920
 That kicked off in spring of this year.

00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.380
 It is going to include cargo and freight operations.

00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:37.940
 They are updated regularly.

00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:42.840
 The last one was done in 2015, so it's time for them to update their airport master plan.

00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:47.940
 They're going to do things like review existing conditions, industry forecasts, and understand

00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:55.300
 that, what capacity building they need to do in order to implement the plan.

00:36:55.300 --> 00:37:00.940
 Another thing that Cameron works on, Cameron has all of the fun projects, is Denton Revealed,

00:37:00.940 --> 00:37:02.460
 and that's our preservation month.

00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:08.080
 This is related to land use, our economic and fiscal vitality, as well as community

00:37:08.080 --> 00:37:10.940
 character and urban design.

00:37:10.940 --> 00:37:13.100
 This is the month of May, every year.

00:37:13.100 --> 00:37:17.260
 This year, they celebrated their third annual, so they've been building on it for the last

00:37:17.260 --> 00:37:18.260
 three years.

00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:20.620
 They had a really successful year.

00:37:20.620 --> 00:37:25.260
 They had 277 participants that went on a variety of tours.

00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:28.640
 There was a mid-century modern master's architecture.

00:37:28.640 --> 00:37:32.340
 They always seem to have a cemetery tour.

00:37:32.340 --> 00:37:34.420
 This year, they were at the Cooper Creek Cemetery.

00:37:34.420 --> 00:37:36.980
 They also Clear Creek Walking Tour.

00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:42.100
 They had an Imagine the Possibilities Tour that was in coordination with our Main Street

00:37:42.100 --> 00:37:43.100
 program.

00:37:43.100 --> 00:37:46.780
 I don't know if you were aware of it, but it really was inviting industry professionals

00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:54.620
 to look at opportunities that they could take advantage of within our downtown square and

00:37:54.620 --> 00:37:59.700
 the real estate opportunities there, and also a historic bar tour.

00:37:59.700 --> 00:38:07.980
 This really is to promote not only economic development, but to instill some pride and

00:38:07.980 --> 00:38:13.540
 encourage that economic tourism, so really trying to get people excited about historic

00:38:13.540 --> 00:38:19.060
 preservation so we can designate more properties within the city of Denton.

00:38:19.060 --> 00:38:24.020
 This also is consistent with a lot of key actions shown at the bottom of your screen.

00:38:24.020 --> 00:38:34.980
 Danny's group has worked a lot with our Housing and Neighborhoods chapter, that element seven.

00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:38.660
 One thing I wanted to point out is a cross-care collaborative.

00:38:38.660 --> 00:38:43.420
 This works with Denton County Behavioral Health Leadership Team, as well as the Denton County

00:38:43.420 --> 00:38:46.340
 Housing and Homelessness Leadership Team.

00:38:46.340 --> 00:38:51.840
 It is to serve those folks that have entered the justice system, and they're also experiencing

00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:57.380
 homelessness due to mental health or substance use needs.

00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:02.700
 The intent of this is to make sure that there aren't duplication of efforts, that we're

00:39:02.700 --> 00:39:10.980
 all working together and doing our little piece of what's needed to be done to reduce

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:14.700
 the recidivism rate for people in crisis.

00:39:14.700 --> 00:39:20.900
 It's a good program, and they've worked on it this year.

00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:26.980
 Parks and our Sustainability Group has also worked on element five, and that's our parks,

00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:31.580
 conservation, and environment, as well as infrastructure and utilities.

00:39:31.580 --> 00:39:36.660
 Sustainability Group added a new position, and that's our conservation program coordinator,

00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:42.180
 and I believe there are two of them within the city, and they have a lot on their plate.

00:39:42.180 --> 00:39:47.300
 They need to coordinate our water and energy conservation efforts, that water audit program

00:39:47.300 --> 00:39:49.900
 for irrigation systems.

00:39:49.900 --> 00:39:54.180
 They do a lot of public outreach and teaching for the sprinkler spruce-up, as well as water

00:39:54.180 --> 00:40:01.460
 conservation, and they also assist with promoting that twice-weekly watering schedule to make

00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:06.260
 sure that we conserve our water within the city of Denton.

00:40:06.260 --> 00:40:09.620
 And then parks has done a lot of improvements.

00:40:09.620 --> 00:40:15.060
 They've improved a lot of our existing parks, like our Carl Young Spray Ground.

00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:20.740
 There's a new facility there, as well as some new shade, new equipment and landscaping on

00:40:20.740 --> 00:40:22.980
 a variety of parks.

00:40:22.980 --> 00:40:29.500
 I've got a picture of Fred Moore Park here that shows the new pergola there at the American

00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:30.660
 Legion Hall.

00:40:30.660 --> 00:40:34.740
 They've also installed public art, and if you've been on this square recently, you've

00:40:34.740 --> 00:40:41.180
 seen all of the boxes now have artwork on them, and so I've got an example here.

00:40:41.180 --> 00:40:46.820
 They look really great, and Parks has been working on that, as well as a mural program.

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:53.540
 Here is a bridge that had an artist paint that mural on that bridge, so adding that

00:40:53.540 --> 00:40:58.340
 public art to our public spaces.

00:40:58.340 --> 00:41:03.980
 We have a transportation group within Development Services who's worked on several items this

00:41:03.980 --> 00:41:07.380
 year, mainly related to mobility.

00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:09.660
 That is our Chapter 6.

00:41:09.660 --> 00:41:13.560
 We have kicked off a city-wide parking study.

00:41:13.560 --> 00:41:16.780
 We have a consultant, and that kicked off earlier this year.

00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:20.900
 They're reviewing things like our current regulations, enforcement challenges, our transit

00:41:20.900 --> 00:41:26.420
 availability, parking supply, nationwide best practices, all of those items that the community

00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:30.340
 has indicated we need to study.

00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:33.900
 And also, they are working on mobility plan updates.

00:41:33.900 --> 00:41:40.620
 You saw one earlier this year for adding that new roadway classification, the major collector,

00:41:40.620 --> 00:41:45.300
 but also adding the connection, that East Windsor connection.

00:41:45.300 --> 00:41:50.500
 You're going to see some more mobility plan updates in the upcoming months, so get ready,

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:54.620
 because they are working on them.

00:41:54.620 --> 00:41:59.620
 And we also have some new facilities that help serve our fiscal and economic vitality,

00:41:59.620 --> 00:42:05.260
 as well as community health, safety and services, our police department.

00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:06.680
 That is complete on Hickory.

00:42:06.680 --> 00:42:09.460
 If you haven't driven by, you should go take a look.

00:42:09.460 --> 00:42:11.700
 It's a very pretty building.

00:42:11.700 --> 00:42:16.780
 And then we have a new fire station at the airport, and the planning department got to

00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:17.780
 tour it.

00:42:17.780 --> 00:42:23.300
 It's a really neat fire station, and it is equipped with an ARF, I believe is how they

00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:27.380
 say it, and that is an airport rescue and firefighting truck.

00:42:27.380 --> 00:42:29.960
 And it is able to respond to emergencies at the airport.

00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:36.140
 So it's a really great asset for the community, and they're really proud of it.

00:42:36.140 --> 00:42:38.880
 And then infrastructure and utilities.

00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:42.900
 This maybe isn't the most exciting, but it is something that we in the planning department

00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:48.540
 and development services, as well as departments across the city, work with every day.

00:42:48.540 --> 00:42:51.760
 And that is our Denton Design Criteria Manual.

00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:59.320
 This was a really big project that our engineering folks and other folks within the city undertook.

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.960
 And this is related to our mobility, as well as our infrastructure and utilities.

00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:09.100
 In the past, if you were aware, we had criteria manuals, and we had one for transportation,

00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:15.020
 and one for storm water, and one for waste water, and one for solid waste.

00:43:15.020 --> 00:43:20.740
 And what they did is they combined it all into one easy to use criteria manual.

00:43:20.740 --> 00:43:23.980
 So it is a companion to the Denton Development Code.

00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:28.880
 It outlines those engineering standards and guidelines for not only development, but also

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:33.220
 for any construction that we work on within the city of Denton.

00:43:33.220 --> 00:43:41.540
 It also, I believe Sean worked on some DME updates to our DME standards, because make

00:43:41.540 --> 00:43:48.000
 sure that all of our street lights comply with our dark skies requirements.

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:55.380
 So looking forward, we are still working on the Invisio Dashboard.

00:43:55.380 --> 00:44:01.100
 We are working on the architecture to make sure that those reports, when they are generated,

00:44:01.100 --> 00:44:05.860
 really do give you good information about what actions have happened.

00:44:05.860 --> 00:44:09.660
 Also to make sure that we're linking those actions to other council priorities, like

00:44:09.660 --> 00:44:11.880
 our strategic plan.

00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:13.940
 And we anticipate that we're going to be finished.

00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:14.940
 We're almost there.

00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:17.660
 I think we're really close.

00:44:17.660 --> 00:44:23.780
 As well as we're putting together a road show, as I mentioned, the comprehensive plan was

00:44:23.780 --> 00:44:27.020
 adopted in 2022.

00:44:27.020 --> 00:44:32.220
 And we want to continue to educate the various city departments about the comprehensive plan,

00:44:32.220 --> 00:44:36.700
 what those planning efforts were, what the key actions and timelines are, and give us

00:44:36.700 --> 00:44:39.460
 some advice on how to use the comprehensive plan.

00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:43.220
 So we're going to have a series of meeting with a variety of departments in order to

00:44:43.220 --> 00:44:48.300
 have one-on-one conversations about how we can help, how we can educate all of our partners

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:53.620
 on the comprehensive plan and collaborate.

00:44:53.620 --> 00:44:58.420
 So with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have.

00:44:58.420 --> 00:45:00.300
 >> That's great, Julie.

00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:01.300
 Thank you very much.

00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:02.300
 Questions?

00:45:02.300 --> 00:45:04.940
 Did I just say I love the road show idea?

00:45:04.940 --> 00:45:05.940
 Awesome.

00:45:05.940 --> 00:45:06.940
 >> I know.

00:45:06.940 --> 00:45:08.700
 >> A really great idea.

00:45:08.700 --> 00:45:15.460
 Because, yeah, yeah, to keep the communication going and make sure, yeah, we're continuing

00:45:15.460 --> 00:45:18.420
 to meet these goals is really great.

00:45:18.420 --> 00:45:23.660
 I know with the short-term items you said 22% have been done, how are -- do you have

00:45:23.660 --> 00:45:28.020
 an idea of how the other short-term items are coming along?

00:45:28.020 --> 00:45:34.660
 >> You know, I don't -- a lot of -- you know, what I struggled with on presenting this information

00:45:34.660 --> 00:45:41.740
 is those key actions, as I said, there are grouping of a lot of specific other actions.

00:45:41.740 --> 00:45:48.660
 So, you know, we're continuing to make sure that we tease out all of those and break apart

00:45:48.660 --> 00:45:56.780
 those key actions where we need to to make sure that we can complete all of those individual

00:45:56.780 --> 00:46:00.260
 items that are the 578 within the code.

00:46:00.260 --> 00:46:05.020
 So I don't have specifics on those other ones.

00:46:05.020 --> 00:46:09.100
 But once again, with the road show, we're going to continue to talk to other departments,

00:46:09.100 --> 00:46:14.580
 see how their priorities, their goals are aligning, see how we can help them move more

00:46:14.580 --> 00:46:16.380
 of those items across the finish line.

00:46:16.380 --> 00:46:17.940
 >> Yeah, that's great.

00:46:17.940 --> 00:46:18.940
 Wonderful.

00:46:18.940 --> 00:46:19.940
 Commissioner Pruitt.

00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:22.580
 >> Thank you, Chair.

00:46:22.580 --> 00:46:28.140
 Thank you for allowing us to step back for a minute, you know, instead of being mired

00:46:28.140 --> 00:46:31.640
 in plats and see what all great work you've done.

00:46:31.640 --> 00:46:35.780
 I think we're all aware of the small area planning, but there were several other details

00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:38.220
 that I learned in this, so thank you for that.

00:46:38.220 --> 00:46:41.540
 I look forward to the Invisio -- is that how you say it?

00:46:41.540 --> 00:46:45.580
 >> I think it's -- I see a lot of nods, so yes.

00:46:45.580 --> 00:46:46.580
 It looks like it.

00:46:46.580 --> 00:46:48.620
 >> I look forward to that.

00:46:48.620 --> 00:46:55.220
 I don't know whether this is planned to be included in that or not.

00:46:55.220 --> 00:47:00.660
 One of the reasons that I think I had looked forward to these yearly updates -- and I'm

00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:09.100
 not sure what Commissioner Smith's thoughts were -- was to get an idea of the by-right

00:47:09.100 --> 00:47:13.260
 development activity that has happened in the city, as well as the applications that

00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:14.260
 we see.

00:47:14.260 --> 00:47:15.260
 >> Okay.

00:47:15.260 --> 00:47:24.140
 >> Because as we are looking at land use applications, it's very helpful to know whether current

00:47:24.140 --> 00:47:32.340
 market solutions within the existing zoning are achieving our goals for housing production

00:47:32.340 --> 00:47:37.980
 or that sort of thing, or whether they are restricted and that sort of thing.

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:38.980
 Does that make sense?

00:47:38.980 --> 00:47:39.980
 >> Absolutely, yes.

00:47:39.980 --> 00:47:45.060
 >> So if that's planned in Invisio, I don't think we need anything extra.

00:47:45.060 --> 00:47:50.540
 If there's some reason it won't, because that's more focused on goals and actions, I look

00:47:50.540 --> 00:47:54.580
 forward to seeing that information somewhere.

00:47:54.580 --> 00:47:55.580
 Thank you.

00:47:55.580 --> 00:47:58.780
 >> Anybody else?

00:47:58.780 --> 00:47:59.780
 >> Really awesome, Julie.

00:47:59.780 --> 00:48:00.780
 >> Thank you.

00:48:00.780 --> 00:48:01.780
 >> Great presentation.

00:48:01.780 --> 00:48:04.140
 So much wonderful information that you gave us.

00:48:04.140 --> 00:48:11.460
 And obviously shows how busy all of you all have been, which is really great.

00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:13.940
 So wonderful update to get.

00:48:13.940 --> 00:48:14.940
 >> Thank you.

00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:15.940
 All right.

00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:16.940
 Bye.

00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:17.940
 >> Thanks.

00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:18.940
 Okay.

00:48:18.940 --> 00:48:20.300
 That is the last thing on our work session.

00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:32.620
 So we'll go ahead and adjourn at 553 and reconvene in council chambers at 630.

00:48:32.620 --> 00:48:35.420
 >> Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting

00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:39.580
 for Wednesday, August 28th, 2024.

00:48:39.580 --> 00:48:43.420
 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 630 p.m.

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:48.020
 Let the record show that Commissioners Thaggard and Villarreal are absent today.

00:48:48.020 --> 00:48:52.420
 First item on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas flags.

00:48:52.420 --> 00:49:02.020
 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic

00:49:02.020 --> 00:49:11.300
 for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for

00:49:11.300 --> 00:49:12.300
 all.

00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:22.660
 One state, one country, Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible.

00:49:22.660 --> 00:49:27.220
 >> First item of action for us is the approval of our minutes for August 14th.

00:49:27.220 --> 00:49:33.940
 I'll go ahead and move approval of that.

00:49:33.940 --> 00:49:34.940
 Commissioner Pedrone?

00:49:34.940 --> 00:49:35.940
 >> I second.

00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:36.940
 >> Okay.

00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:40.380
 We've got a first and a second to approve the minutes from August 14th.

00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:41.380
 Any discussion?

00:49:41.380 --> 00:49:42.380
 Okay.

00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:49.300
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

00:49:49.300 --> 00:49:52.060
 That motion carries 4-0.

00:49:52.060 --> 00:49:59.100
 That brings us to our items for individual consideration, the first one being 3A FP 240025.

00:49:59.100 --> 00:50:02.060
 Mia is here for presentation.

00:50:02.060 --> 00:50:03.060
 Hi.

00:50:03.060 --> 00:50:09.740
 >> Good evening, Chair, members of the Commission, Mia Hines, Senior Planner.

00:50:09.740 --> 00:50:15.540
 This item is a final plaque for a property just over 18 acres located at the northwest

00:50:15.540 --> 00:50:18.700
 corner of East University Drive and Old North Road.

00:50:18.700 --> 00:50:22.340
 At this time, they are not meeting all of our criteria for approval, so staff is recommending

00:50:22.340 --> 00:50:23.340
 the denial.

00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:27.620
 However, we have no objection to the requested extension, which could be granted to a date

00:50:27.620 --> 00:50:30.660
 certain of September 25th, 2024.

00:50:30.660 --> 00:50:32.780
 At this time, I'll take any questions you have.

00:50:32.780 --> 00:50:33.780
 >> Thank you, Mia.

00:50:33.780 --> 00:50:39.540
 If you have any questions, thank you so much.

00:50:39.540 --> 00:50:40.540
 Commissioner Britt?

00:50:40.540 --> 00:50:45.540
 >> I'll move approval to the applicant -- of the applicant requested extension to a date

00:50:45.540 --> 00:50:47.580
 certain of September 25th, 2024.

00:50:47.580 --> 00:50:48.580
 >> Okay.

00:50:48.580 --> 00:50:49.580
 Commissioner Cole?

00:50:49.580 --> 00:50:50.580
 >> Second.

00:50:50.580 --> 00:50:51.580
 >> Okay.

00:50:51.580 --> 00:50:54.060
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of September

00:50:54.060 --> 00:50:56.940
 25th, 2024.

00:50:56.940 --> 00:50:57.940
 Any discussion?

00:50:57.940 --> 00:50:58.940
 Okay.

00:50:58.940 --> 00:51:05.820
 Let's vote, please.

00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:07.980
 That motion carries 4-0.

00:51:07.980 --> 00:51:10.740
 That'll take us to 3-B, FP240030.

00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:15.140
 Mia here again for presentation.

00:51:15.140 --> 00:51:19.620
 >> Good evening again, Chair, members of the commission.

00:51:19.620 --> 00:51:24.460
 This item is a final plat in the -- located in City's ETJ for a property that's approximately

00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:26.180
 for 5.6 acres.

00:51:26.180 --> 00:51:32.900
 Specifically, it's located at the northeast corner of FM 1173 and Motch Branch Road and

00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:38.100
 does come with some right-of-way dedication to the county for the realignment of Motch

00:51:38.100 --> 00:51:39.100
 Branch Road also.

00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:43.540
 At this time, the plat itself is not ready -- does not meet all of our criteria for approval,

00:51:43.540 --> 00:51:45.620
 so we are recommending denial.

00:51:45.620 --> 00:51:50.180
 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024.

00:51:50.180 --> 00:51:52.020
 That'll take any questions.

00:51:52.020 --> 00:51:53.020
 >> Thank you, Mia.

00:51:53.020 --> 00:51:54.020
 Questions?

00:51:54.020 --> 00:51:55.020
 Thank you.

00:51:55.020 --> 00:51:56.020
 Commissioner Pruitt?

00:51:56.020 --> 00:52:03.800
 >> I move approval of the applicant requested extension to September 25th, 2024.

00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:04.800
 >> Thank you.

00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:05.800
 Commissioner Pedron.

00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:06.800
 >> I second.

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:07.800
 >> Okay.

00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.580
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of September

00:52:10.580 --> 00:52:13.180
 25th, 2024.

00:52:13.180 --> 00:52:14.180
 Any discussion?

00:52:14.180 --> 00:52:15.180
 Okay.

00:52:15.180 --> 00:52:22.380
 Let's vote, please.

00:52:22.380 --> 00:52:24.440
 That motion will carry 4-0.

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.920
 That will take us to our public hearings this evening.

00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:40.500
 Items 4A, AESA 230002 and 4B, S220010 have been postponed by the applicant, so we will

00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:45.560
 not be taking action on either of those items today.

00:52:45.560 --> 00:52:49.980
 Should they come forward, that will be re-noticed to the public.

00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:55.620
 Next item is 4C, HL240002.

00:52:55.620 --> 00:52:56.620
 Cameron's here for presentation.

00:52:56.620 --> 00:52:58.420
 I'll go ahead and open the public hearing.

00:52:58.420 --> 00:53:00.540
 >> Thank you, Chair and Commission.

00:53:00.540 --> 00:53:03.900
 Cameron Robertson, Historic Preservation Officer.

00:53:03.900 --> 00:53:08.460
 There we go.

00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:17.600
 So, as stated, this is for a historic landmark designation of 1526 Willowwood Street.

00:53:17.600 --> 00:53:21.440
 It is located on the north side of Willowwood Street between Kendolph Drive and McCormick

00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:22.440
 Street.

00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.260
 The date is circa 1978.

00:53:24.260 --> 00:53:29.580
 I did want to state when it comes to a historic landmark designation, the property does not

00:53:29.580 --> 00:53:31.700
 have to be 50 years or older.

00:53:31.700 --> 00:53:37.100
 That is only in relation to a historic district and a conservation district.

00:53:37.100 --> 00:53:42.820
 So a little bit of the building's history, it was originally constructed for Mr. James

00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:44.380
 J. and Judith H. Feldman.

00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:47.260
 It is in that contemporary style.

00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:52.140
 The architects were based out of Houston, Texas, otherwise known as Anderson and Wilson.

00:53:52.140 --> 00:53:58.580
 The contractor was Neil J. Adams and it has had five owners since 1978.

00:53:58.580 --> 00:54:01.260
 So the request is for that historic landmark designation.

00:54:01.260 --> 00:54:05.460
 It's located within the Denia neighborhood on that R3 zoning.

00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:11.420
 It is a single-family residence on approximately 1.7 acres.

00:54:11.420 --> 00:54:15.580
 So just going to run you through some of the existing conditions of the structure itself.

00:54:15.580 --> 00:54:21.700
 This is that front south facade, as well as that rear north facade, as well as the east

00:54:21.700 --> 00:54:26.020
 facade and the west facade.

00:54:26.020 --> 00:54:30.740
 This is a survey of the property.

00:54:30.740 --> 00:54:37.160
 Staff's analysis was based off section 2.9.4(b) of the Denton Development Code.

00:54:37.160 --> 00:54:42.700
 In terms of the structure itself, it does meet the following criteria 1, 5, and 11,

00:54:42.700 --> 00:54:46.500
 which I'm going to go into more detail now.

00:54:46.500 --> 00:54:48.740
 So approval criteria 1.

00:54:48.740 --> 00:54:52.700
 So during the late 20th century, that live-work style was really starting to take off and

00:54:52.700 --> 00:54:59.860
 Houston was kind of the leader of that movement in Texas, really beginning in the 1950s.

00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:03.980
 Anderson Wilson architects were considered the true pioneers of that movement and are

00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:06.860
 featured prominently throughout the Houston area.

00:55:06.860 --> 00:55:14.020
 In 1526 Willowood Street, the Feldmans did hire Anderson Wilson to come up from Houston

00:55:14.020 --> 00:55:19.820
 and construct their home, really looking to embellish on that live-work style.

00:55:19.820 --> 00:55:25.320
 As part of this home, they had a artist studio or two artist studios constructed, one which

00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:33.300
 was specifically configured for a photographer's darkroom and the other a pottery studio.

00:55:33.300 --> 00:55:34.940
 Approval criteria 5.

00:55:34.940 --> 00:55:38.020
 So as I stated previously, it's that contemporary style.

00:55:38.020 --> 00:55:43.580
 To many people in Denton, this is kind of known as the birdhouse due to that front enclosed

00:55:43.580 --> 00:55:45.580
 atrium.

00:55:45.580 --> 00:55:50.020
 It does borrow some of that structural design from the international style which came forward

00:55:50.020 --> 00:55:56.820
 in the 1920s, but it is an asymmetrical structure with unordinated stucco surfaces and it's

00:55:56.820 --> 00:56:00.980
 really light on those kind of textures and it's very open.

00:56:00.980 --> 00:56:05.280
 Really for these kind of structures, the focus was in that interior and how the interior

00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:11.820
 functioned and how it also kind of integrated into the outdoor views and use.

00:56:11.820 --> 00:56:16.460
 As I say previously, they saw a design of this in Southern Living Magazine.

00:56:16.460 --> 00:56:21.580
 The owners of Feldman saw it in 1972, Southern Living Magazine, and they were infatuated

00:56:21.580 --> 00:56:26.540
 with it and so they hired Anderson Wilson architects to come up and expand on that residential

00:56:26.540 --> 00:56:33.540
 design and that courtyard which is a huge feature to the home is 20 foot, 25 foot high

00:56:33.540 --> 00:56:40.580
 by 60 foot wide and originally as part of the plans, it was supposed to have a swimming

00:56:40.580 --> 00:56:45.060
 pool so that's why it's a little bit elevated, but currently it is a garden.

00:56:45.060 --> 00:56:48.900
 They never ended up putting the pool in, but it is a garden and it does have box turtles

00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:55.700
 of which 33 were originally in there and now there are two remaining.

00:56:55.700 --> 00:57:03.140
 In approval criteria 11, there are a lot of personnel who have lived in the home and that

00:57:03.140 --> 00:57:08.340
 have great importance to the City of Denton and our larger Denton County community.

00:57:08.340 --> 00:57:09.460
 The first is the Feldman family.

00:57:09.460 --> 00:57:12.100
 They are the original owners and the builders.

00:57:12.100 --> 00:57:16.020
 They contributed greatly to the Jewish community in Denton as well as Denton County.

00:57:16.020 --> 00:57:21.940
 They were some of the founding members of congregation Kol Ami which is now located

00:57:21.940 --> 00:57:25.700
 in, why am I blinking?

00:57:25.700 --> 00:57:29.140
 It's located outside the City of Denton, but it had its roots in the University of North

00:57:29.140 --> 00:57:30.340
 Texas campus.

00:57:30.340 --> 00:57:34.220
 Dr. Gilda Garcia, she was the fourth owner of this property.

00:57:34.220 --> 00:57:37.160
 She contributed greatly to the University of North Texas.

00:57:37.160 --> 00:57:41.780
 She served as both the chief diversity officer as well as the vice president of the university

00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:45.540
 and then the current owners who are the fifth property owners, Jennifer Lane and Dr. James

00:57:45.540 --> 00:57:50.180
 Carr, they not only contributed greatly to University of North Texas, but also nationally

00:57:50.180 --> 00:57:53.260
 and internationally.

00:57:53.260 --> 00:57:58.180
 Jennifer Lane works for the University of North Texas College of Music.

00:57:58.180 --> 00:58:02.340
 They're also both recorded musicians and singers and teachers.

00:58:02.340 --> 00:58:08.540
 So staff's analysis consisted of looking at the 2019 historic preservation plan and the

00:58:08.540 --> 00:58:14.100
 Denton 2040 comprehensive plan of which it meets goal number one, policy 1.3, as well

00:58:14.100 --> 00:58:19.080
 as goal, community, character, dash two.

00:58:19.080 --> 00:58:20.240
 Historic outreach was done.

00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:26.020
 There was a newspaper website and property signed postings, mailed notices of 200 feet

00:58:26.020 --> 00:58:30.020
 to 19 residents and then 500 courtesy notices mailed out.

00:58:30.020 --> 00:58:35.060
 There were no responses in opposition, favor or neutral.

00:58:35.060 --> 00:58:39.460
 So staff is recommending approval of the request for the historic landmark designation of the

00:58:39.460 --> 00:58:45.860
 property at 1526 Willowwood as it does meet our Denton development code criteria for historic

00:58:45.860 --> 00:58:50.140
 landmark designation, as well as our Denton 2040 comprehensive plan and our 2019 historic

00:58:50.140 --> 00:58:51.580
 preservation plan.

00:58:51.580 --> 00:58:56.140
 The Historic Landmark Commission did recommend approval 50 and the next step is to go to

00:58:56.140 --> 00:58:59.020
 public hearing at city council on September 17th.

00:58:59.020 --> 00:59:04.180
 And I can stand for any questions and we also have the applicants as well if you have any

00:59:04.180 --> 00:59:05.180
 questions for them.

00:59:05.180 --> 00:59:08.220
 Thank you very much, Cameron.

00:59:08.220 --> 00:59:09.780
 Questions for Cameron?

00:59:09.780 --> 00:59:10.780
 Okay.

00:59:10.780 --> 00:59:15.780
 I don't have any cards in front of me, but is there anyone wishing to speak on this item?

00:59:15.780 --> 00:59:22.260
 Hi there, if you'll state your name, your time will begin.

00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:26.700
 Yes, my name is Charles Lee.

00:59:26.700 --> 00:59:29.420
 I'm against this.

00:59:29.420 --> 00:59:34.140
 This is not an indictment on property owners, personally themselves.

00:59:34.140 --> 00:59:39.820
 This is more of an indictment on the system itself because what it is, these politicians,

00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:45.460
 they're running up the tax bill so high that people can't afford their taxes and they're

00:59:45.460 --> 00:59:50.580
 looking for any loophole they can get to try to get out of taxes because you fail to state

00:59:50.580 --> 00:59:55.860
 that there is a tax benefit for the property owners and I really don't believe this is

00:59:55.860 --> 00:59:58.480
 any kind of historical significance.

00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:03.620
 People are just trying to find the best way to get out of paying property taxes and this

01:00:03.620 --> 01:00:09.220
 whole type of system is ripe for corruption because what it is, the people want to know

01:00:09.220 --> 01:00:13.900
 and the people that are well connected politically, they're going to apply for this type of benefit

01:00:13.900 --> 01:00:17.820
 so they can know how they can reduce their taxes and all this is going to do is shift

01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:22.780
 tax to tax burden to people who don't know this or who don't get this benefit and that's

01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:26.740
 going to raise their taxes up and it's going to create more of a division in our society

01:00:26.740 --> 01:00:31.940
 than it already is and like I said on repeat again, this is not a personal indictment on

01:00:31.940 --> 01:00:32.940
 the property owners.

01:00:32.940 --> 01:00:37.540
 I understand what they're trying to do, but what I'm doing is more of an indictment on

01:00:37.540 --> 01:00:42.340
 the system and just for that reason, what it is, politicians need to stop spending so

01:00:42.340 --> 01:00:46.860
 much of the community's money so the property taxes don't get so high, so we don't have

01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:49.760
 to resort to this type of system and this type of corruption.

01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:51.720
 Thank you very much.

01:00:51.720 --> 01:00:53.980
 Thank you.

01:00:53.980 --> 01:00:56.780
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item?

01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:57.780
 Sure.

01:00:57.780 --> 01:01:15.420
 I'm here for any questions too, but I'll just mention that that is definitely not a motivation.

01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:17.260
 We already have the freeze being over 65.

01:01:17.260 --> 01:01:19.180
 Go ahead and say your name, Jennifer.

01:01:19.180 --> 01:01:22.900
 Jennifer Lane, 1526 Willowood Street.

01:01:22.900 --> 01:01:26.220
 What the gentleman just said is not a motivation because we already have the freeze at 65.

01:01:26.220 --> 01:01:27.940
 It won't affect our property taxes.

01:01:27.940 --> 01:01:32.140
 What it will do is protect the property and if there are any questions about that, I'm

01:01:32.140 --> 01:01:34.500
 happy to answer them.

01:01:34.500 --> 01:01:35.500
 Thank you.

01:01:35.500 --> 01:01:38.380
 Any questions for our property owner?

01:01:38.380 --> 01:01:41.380
 It will not lower our property taxes, just so you know.

01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:44.580
 Thank you very much.

01:01:44.580 --> 01:01:47.460
 Anyone else wishing to speak on this item?

01:01:47.460 --> 01:01:49.140
 Okay.

01:01:49.140 --> 01:01:55.860
 I am going to go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion

01:01:55.860 --> 01:01:56.860
 or motion.

01:01:56.860 --> 01:01:57.860
 Commissioner Cole?

01:01:57.860 --> 01:01:58.860
 I move to approve.

01:01:58.860 --> 01:01:59.860
 Okay.

01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:00.860
 Commissioner Paduram?

01:02:00.860 --> 01:02:01.860
 I second.

01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:02.860
 Okay.

01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:09.500
 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion.

01:02:09.500 --> 01:02:16.300
 I just want to say, I am very happy that we have this in town.

01:02:16.300 --> 01:02:21.020
 This is an extremely special and beautiful property.

01:02:21.020 --> 01:02:25.540
 If you have not seen it, I have been lucky enough to see it.

01:02:25.540 --> 01:02:33.780
 It is with great pleasure to support the request before us.

01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:36.900
 Any other discussion?

01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:44.900
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:02:44.900 --> 01:02:49.220
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:02:49.220 --> 01:02:55.180
 Next item of public hearing is 4-D, HL240003.

01:02:55.180 --> 01:03:00.020
 I will go ahead and open that public hearing, and here is Cameron for presentation.

01:03:00.020 --> 01:03:02.460
 Thank you, Chair.

01:03:02.460 --> 01:03:09.380
 Jumping right in, the address is 1900 Westridge Street.

01:03:09.380 --> 01:03:13.020
 It's north side of Westridge Street, just east of Highland Park Road.

01:03:13.020 --> 01:03:16.380
 The construction date is 1970.

01:03:16.380 --> 01:03:22.580
 Some of the building's history, it was originally constructed for Horace R. and Yulene W. Brock.

01:03:22.580 --> 01:03:25.860
 The architectural style, similar to the first one, was contemporary style.

01:03:25.860 --> 01:03:28.380
 The architects are Mount Miller Architects.

01:03:28.380 --> 01:03:34.900
 The contractor is Burt Moore, and it's had three owners since 1970.

01:03:34.900 --> 01:03:38.260
 Today's request is for the historic landmark designation.

01:03:38.260 --> 01:03:44.820
 Similar to the previous designation request, it is located in the Denia neighborhood, also

01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:45.820
 zoned R3.

01:03:45.820 --> 01:03:52.740
 It is a single-family residence on approximately 0.6 acres.

01:03:52.740 --> 01:03:59.060
 This is the front south facade of the structure, as well as that east facade.

01:03:59.060 --> 01:04:03.980
 Then we have the rear north and west facades of the structure.

01:04:03.980 --> 01:04:07.620
 This is the survey for the property.

01:04:07.620 --> 01:04:14.260
 Staff's analysis, similar to the first, did look at section 2.9.4(b), of which 1900 Westridge

01:04:14.260 --> 01:04:20.700
 Street meets the following criteria 4 and criteria 11, which I'll jump into now.

01:04:20.700 --> 01:04:25.700
 Approval criteria 4, the property was designed by Mount Miller Architects, which is pretty

01:04:25.700 --> 01:04:32.480
 much a very well-known architect group here in Denton, which stands for Tom P. Miller

01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:34.700
 and Isabelle Mount.

01:04:34.700 --> 01:04:39.960
 They served on many boards and civic organizations here in Denton, and they helped really honestly

01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.740
 design that built fabric of Denton.

01:04:42.740 --> 01:04:49.100
 Over 45 years, they were responsible for designing and remodeling close to 300 residents, public

01:04:49.100 --> 01:04:52.700
 and commercial buildings in Denton and in nearby towns.

01:04:52.700 --> 01:04:57.740
 Some of the former or current Mount Miller examples that you all know today is that former

01:04:57.740 --> 01:05:04.180
 Denton Firehouse Station number 4, which is near Kings Row, and then 531 North Elm Street

01:05:04.180 --> 01:05:13.660
 where Simona Massage or Therapist is located, but it was constructed by Burt Moore also.

01:05:13.660 --> 01:05:15.100
 You may have heard the name.

01:05:15.100 --> 01:05:21.420
 He was known for Dencrete, which he manufactured his own concrete masonry units, and there

01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:28.560
 are a bunch of different homes in Denton that also utilized his Dencrete for their construction.

01:05:28.560 --> 01:05:33.900
 Looking at approval criteria 11, Horace and Yulene Brock, the original owners, also similar

01:05:33.900 --> 01:05:35.880
 ... Probably you've heard their name before.

01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.660
 They also had an important role in proving that social, economic, ethnic, and historical

01:05:40.660 --> 01:05:43.860
 heritage in the city of Denton and in Texas.

01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:48.500
 They also served on many boards and commissions, including non-profit organizations.

01:05:48.500 --> 01:05:53.180
 Yulene had a tenure with the city of Denton as a mayor, and she also helped found the

01:05:53.180 --> 01:05:57.760
 Denton Christian Women's Interracial Fellowship, and then Horace had a long career with the

01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:59.720
 University of North Texas.

01:05:59.720 --> 01:06:05.220
 He served as the UNT Department Chair, the Dean of College and Business Administration,

01:06:05.220 --> 01:06:09.460
 as well as the Director of Chief Executive's Roundtable.

01:06:09.460 --> 01:06:14.860
 Staff's analysis did look at the 2019 Historic Preservation Plan and the Denton 2040 Comprehensive

01:06:14.860 --> 01:06:18.820
 Plan, of which it is consistent.

01:06:18.820 --> 01:06:24.860
 In addition, public outreach was done for newspaper website signage, property signage,

01:06:24.860 --> 01:06:31.820
 as well as mail notices, we did receive two responses in favor of the designation, one

01:06:31.820 --> 01:06:36.060
 within the 200 foot and one within that 500 foot buffer.

01:06:36.060 --> 01:06:41.180
 Staff is recommending approval of the request for the designation located at 1900 West Ridge

01:06:41.180 --> 01:06:47.000
 Street, as it does meet the Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan and that 2019 Historic Preservation Plan,

01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:52.060
 as well as our section 2.9.4(b) of the Denton Development Code.

01:06:52.060 --> 01:06:56.620
 The landmark commission also recommended approval 50, and the next public hearing is at City

01:06:56.620 --> 01:07:01.100
 Council on September 17th, and I can stand for any questions, and the applicant is here

01:07:01.100 --> 01:07:02.860
 as well if you have any questions.

01:07:02.860 --> 01:07:04.260
 Thank you.

01:07:04.260 --> 01:07:06.060
 Questions for Cameron?

01:07:06.060 --> 01:07:07.500
 Okay.

01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:08.500
 Thank you.

01:07:08.500 --> 01:07:09.500
 This is a public hearing.

01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:13.160
 I don't have any cards in front of me, but if you'd like to speak on this item, please

01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:14.160
 come up.

01:07:14.160 --> 01:07:15.160
 Hi.

01:07:15.160 --> 01:07:16.160
 How are you doing?

01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:17.160
 Yes, my name is Charles Lagan.

01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:23.440
 I just want to say, yeah, I'm against this proposal, too, for the same reasons I said

01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.880
 before, and I'm going to say it again, that was a flat out lie.

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:29.900
 There is a tax benefit for this.

01:07:29.900 --> 01:07:35.300
 I heard it in the work session, you get 50%, it's attached onto the property, will necessarily

01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:39.700
 increase the value of the property, too, just because of that tax exemption, that will necessarily

01:07:39.700 --> 01:07:43.820
 go to the current owner, and if they sell the property, they'll receive that benefit.

01:07:43.820 --> 01:07:47.780
 So anybody who said that there's no benefit to the owner for this is a flat out lie.

01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:52.820
 And plus, if they will this to somebody in their family, they'll receive that benefit,

01:07:52.820 --> 01:07:55.260
 too, because it's attached to the property.

01:07:55.260 --> 01:08:00.940
 And in fact, there's no historical significance here, because so what, so the guy was a mayor

01:08:00.940 --> 01:08:03.180
 that owned the property, so what does that mean?

01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:08.500
 So every mayor in the town's property, whoever that lived there, is going to see a tax exemption

01:08:08.500 --> 01:08:09.500
 now.

01:08:09.500 --> 01:08:13.780
 Every council member, any other person, this just sounds like a bunch of aristocratic living

01:08:13.780 --> 01:08:19.700
 liberals that want to give themselves special benefits on the expense of everybody else

01:08:19.700 --> 01:08:20.700
 in the community.

01:08:20.700 --> 01:08:25.140
 To say anything different is just a flat out lie, and it really is.

01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:26.860
 It's absolutely ridiculous at this point.

01:08:26.860 --> 01:08:27.860
 This should be denied.

01:08:27.860 --> 01:08:34.540
 This is the type of corruption that's ruining this nation, and it needs to go away immediately.

01:08:34.540 --> 01:08:37.220
 Thank you.

01:08:37.220 --> 01:08:39.540
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item?

01:08:39.540 --> 01:08:43.420
 I do not have any cards in front of me, but you are welcome to speak on this item if you

01:08:43.420 --> 01:08:44.420
 would like.

01:08:44.420 --> 01:08:45.420
 Okay.

01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:54.780
 I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for a motion or discussion.

01:08:54.780 --> 01:08:58.700
 I will go ahead and move approval of this request, Commissioner Cole.

01:08:58.700 --> 01:08:59.700
 Second.

01:08:59.700 --> 01:09:00.700
 Okay.

01:09:00.700 --> 01:09:02.500
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

01:09:02.500 --> 01:09:05.020
 Any discussion?

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:11.700
 I'll just say great presentation on both accounts, Cameron, showing us this historical significance,

01:09:11.700 --> 01:09:14.020
 why these properties should be protected.

01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:16.780
 To me, every Mount Miller in our town should be protected.

01:09:16.780 --> 01:09:27.180
 Just tremendous significant historical story for our city, for sure.

01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:28.180
 Any other discussion?

01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:29.180
 Okay.

01:09:29.180 --> 01:09:36.700
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:09:36.700 --> 01:09:39.780
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:09:39.780 --> 01:09:47.780
 That will take us to our final public hearing this evening, and that is 4EDCA240010.

01:09:47.780 --> 01:09:50.420
 I will go ahead and open the public hearing.

01:09:50.420 --> 01:09:56.180
 Leigh Ann is here for presentation.

01:09:56.180 --> 01:10:01.460
 Good evening, Commission.

01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:06.220
 Leigh Atkinson, Housing Programs Coordinator with the Community Services Team, here today

01:10:06.220 --> 01:10:12.100
 to talk about the proposed amendment to the Debt and Development Code 212, Affordability

01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:13.100
 Incentives.

01:10:13.100 --> 01:10:17.340
 In summary, as stated, this is a proposal to update the Debt and Development Code to

01:10:17.340 --> 01:10:21.540
 include 212 affordability incentive procedures.

01:10:21.540 --> 01:10:25.660
 This amendment would introduce nine different development incentives, each of which offers

01:10:25.660 --> 01:10:29.380
 slight deviation from the standard DDC requirements.

01:10:29.380 --> 01:10:35.340
 Any residential development would have the option to utilize one or more of these incentives

01:10:35.340 --> 01:10:42.020
 in exchange for including affordability within the development.

01:10:42.020 --> 01:10:45.860
 Staff Rules of the Day is presented in alignment with a few different planning documents.

01:10:45.860 --> 01:10:50.340
 First and foremost, the Affordable Housing Strategic Toolkit, of which this is Activity

01:10:50.340 --> 01:10:51.340
 3B.

01:10:51.340 --> 01:10:55.260
 Additionally, it's aligned with City Council's priority to foster economic opportunity and

01:10:55.260 --> 01:11:01.900
 affordability, as well as Policy 3.2 in the Economic Development Strategic Plan and Policy

01:11:01.900 --> 01:11:07.860
 7.2 from the 2040 plan.

01:11:07.860 --> 01:11:09.380
 These are the nine incentives.

01:11:09.380 --> 01:11:15.420
 It would include a 20% deviation from minimum yard and setback requirements, maximum building

01:11:15.420 --> 01:11:20.580
 coverage, minimum allot width, depth and area, maximum building height, and minimum unit

01:11:20.580 --> 01:11:26.180
 size, as well as a 10-point reduction from the landscaping area point system, and a parking

01:11:26.180 --> 01:11:33.280
 reduction down to one spot per affordable dwelling unit.

01:11:33.280 --> 01:11:37.740
 In exchange, that residential development would be committed to setting aside some of

01:11:37.740 --> 01:11:43.540
 their homes for low-income households at rates affordable to that household.

01:11:43.540 --> 01:11:47.720
 That would start at three incentives or fewer were utilized.

01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:54.520
 That would kick in 20% of the units being held as affordable, broken down over three

01:11:54.520 --> 01:12:00.300
 different income categories, extremely low-income, very low-income, and low to moderate income.

01:12:00.300 --> 01:12:06.120
 The more incentives are used, that affordability scales up to a maximum of 65% of the homes

01:12:06.120 --> 01:12:07.620
 dedicated to affordability.

01:12:07.620 --> 01:12:12.420
 No matter how many incentives are used, the commitment would be to 30 years of affordability

01:12:12.420 --> 01:12:18.140
 in those homes.

01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:22.180
 To access these incentives, during the normal development process, a developer would submit

01:12:22.180 --> 01:12:25.340
 a request for affordability incentives.

01:12:25.340 --> 01:12:29.560
 Both development services and community services would review and approve or deny that request

01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:31.580
 based on the written standards.

01:12:31.580 --> 01:12:35.860
 That development would then go through the typical development review process with these

01:12:35.860 --> 01:12:38.220
 incentives being considered.

01:12:38.220 --> 01:12:42.400
 Prior to building permits being issued, both the developer and the city will sign an affordability

01:12:42.400 --> 01:12:48.660
 incentives program agreement committing both the city and the developer to those terms,

01:12:48.660 --> 01:12:55.660
 providing for standards in regards to monitoring, as well as providing for actions the city

01:12:55.660 --> 01:12:57.700
 may take if the terms are not honored.

01:12:57.700 --> 01:13:02.260
 It'll be the responsibility of the community services department to monitor that development

01:13:02.260 --> 01:13:12.040
 and ensure it's actually being leased or sold at affordable rates for the full 30 years.

01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:14.380
 This is an example of a real development in Denton.

01:13:14.380 --> 01:13:19.380
 This is the Sherman Crossing multifamily development, like every development of its type, it was

01:13:19.380 --> 01:13:22.100
 beholden to the landscaping area point system.

01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:27.820
 They chose to meet those requirements by selecting two different elements, each from section

01:13:27.820 --> 01:13:30.240
 A, B, and C respectively.

01:13:30.240 --> 01:13:34.780
 If they were to utilize the landscaping incentive, they could have removed their obligation to

01:13:34.780 --> 01:13:37.940
 do just two of those six elements.

01:13:37.940 --> 01:13:43.760
 For example, that could have been the parking island every 10 spaces or the size requirement

01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:48.020
 for the trees that were planted at time of planting.

01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:51.280
 This would have saved the development significant funds potentially.

01:13:51.280 --> 01:13:57.160
 In exchange, they would need to dedicate 20% of their homes as affordable, leasing to low

01:13:57.160 --> 01:14:00.140
 income households at rates affordable to them.

01:14:00.140 --> 01:14:05.140
 For this development, there were 294 total units, so 59 of those units would need to

01:14:05.140 --> 01:14:09.060
 be affordable.

01:14:09.060 --> 01:14:12.080
 The incentive package also applies to single family developments.

01:14:12.080 --> 01:14:19.080
 This is the Stella Hills development, scaled down to look at just one block specifically.

01:14:19.080 --> 01:14:25.600
 In this scenario, a lot width reduction could be used as an incentive.

01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:29.420
 The zoning underlaying here requires a 50 foot minimum lot width.

01:14:29.420 --> 01:14:35.100
 If they took a 10 foot reduction, those lots could be a minimum of 40 feet wide each.

01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:40.460
 We can see first illustrated here, those existing lots with those lot lines, as they are highlighted

01:14:40.460 --> 01:14:45.460
 in yellow, the potential 10 foot reductions, and that's 16 lots in total.

01:14:45.460 --> 01:14:49.820
 Then beside, a sort of revisioning of what that lot could look like in a 40 foot wide

01:14:49.820 --> 01:14:55.100
 lot scenario, where they could fit 20 lots on that same block.

01:14:55.100 --> 01:15:00.060
 This could significantly increase the number of homes that could be included in that overall

01:15:00.060 --> 01:15:03.940
 development if applied across the board.

01:15:03.940 --> 01:15:07.420
 In this scenario, 20% of those homes would need to be affordable.

01:15:07.420 --> 01:15:11.580
 This development, as it was finished, was 316 homes.

01:15:11.580 --> 01:15:16.460
 In this scenario, 63 homes would need to be sold to low income households at prices that

01:15:16.460 --> 01:15:21.500
 were affordable to them.

01:15:21.500 --> 01:15:24.980
 Staff did conduct public engagement regarding this amendment.

01:15:24.980 --> 01:15:29.420
 There was a town hall as well as an online feedback form open to both developers and

01:15:29.420 --> 01:15:30.720
 to residents.

01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.520
 The primary feedback that staff received from both residents and developers was an interest

01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:39.380
 in seeing stronger incentives that would increase developer buy in.

01:15:39.380 --> 01:15:45.660
 This is why, at the work session last time, the commission directed to start that process

01:15:45.660 --> 01:15:52.140
 at three incentives, prior to going increased affordability, as well as to standardize to

01:15:52.140 --> 01:15:56.240
 30 years of affordability across the board.

01:15:56.240 --> 01:15:59.460
 If this is approved over time, staff will continually evaluate the effectiveness of

01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:03.580
 the program, as well as evaluate whether there are additional opportunities to add further

01:16:03.580 --> 01:16:09.020
 incentives to the package.

01:16:09.020 --> 01:16:10.840
 As of today, there are three options.

01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:15.100
 The first is to recommend approval, in which case this item would proceed to public hearing

01:16:15.100 --> 01:16:18.660
 with City Council with a projected date of October 15th.

01:16:18.660 --> 01:16:22.920
 The second option is to recommend denial, and the third is to postpone the item.

01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:23.920
 That's all for me.

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:24.920
 Thank you very much.

01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:25.920
 Thank you.

01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:26.920
 I believe we've got a question.

01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:27.920
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:28.920
 Thank you, Chair.

01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:34.540
 I want to go quick so that everybody in the room and online is aware.

01:16:34.540 --> 01:16:42.380
 Would this program involve the city making monetary payments to anyone, or is it purely

01:16:42.380 --> 01:16:49.660
 just relaxing the requirements that we normally put in, which make housing more expensive,

01:16:49.660 --> 01:16:53.660
 in order to make sure that we can get some units that are income restricted?

01:16:53.660 --> 01:16:54.660
 That's correct.

01:16:54.660 --> 01:16:57.700
 This would only be about requirements in the DDC.

01:16:57.700 --> 01:17:00.140
 There would be no monetary payments associated with this program.

01:17:00.140 --> 01:17:01.140
 Thank you.

01:17:01.140 --> 01:17:02.940
 Thank you, Commissioner Pruitt.

01:17:02.940 --> 01:17:06.120
 Anything else for Lyle?

01:17:06.120 --> 01:17:07.460
 Thank you very much.

01:17:07.460 --> 01:17:08.460
 This is a public hearing.

01:17:08.460 --> 01:17:12.460
 I do not have any cards in front of me at this time, but if there's anyone wishing to

01:17:12.460 --> 01:17:14.780
 speak, please do so.

01:17:14.780 --> 01:17:16.300
 Mr. Lee?

01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:22.500
 Yes, my name is Charles Lee, and I just want to say this is a very bad plan.

01:17:22.500 --> 01:17:24.060
 This is just nothing but socialism.

01:17:24.060 --> 01:17:28.340
 What we're trying to do is just increasing the burden on certain people, and trying to

01:17:28.340 --> 01:17:31.540
 give more people more of a free ride.

01:17:31.540 --> 01:17:33.540
 All it does is create more division in the community.

01:17:33.540 --> 01:17:37.980
 You're going to have a lot of people compete off, because they're going to have to pay

01:17:37.980 --> 01:17:42.300
 more for their houses, and other people are going to pay less, and then certain people

01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:45.780
 are going to have to pay more property taxes, because their houses are going up, and other

01:17:45.780 --> 01:17:52.020
 people are going to have to pay less, and then you have the certain upper class elite.

01:17:52.020 --> 01:17:55.700
 They come up with all these tax sleep loopholes, so they can get out from under, and they don't

01:17:55.700 --> 01:17:56.700
 have to pay anything.

01:17:56.700 --> 01:18:01.940
 But if they don't care, as long as they divide the community up, and they remain in power,

01:18:01.940 --> 01:18:05.860
 that's all they really care about, so they can keep control over the population, and

01:18:05.860 --> 01:18:06.860
 keep the people divided.

01:18:06.860 --> 01:18:13.060
 This is a very bad plan, and this is all this does, is just continue that same type of thinking,

01:18:13.060 --> 01:18:15.860
 and this is not good at all.

01:18:15.860 --> 01:18:21.020
 I'm against it, and I hope, wish people would actually come to realize what's really going

01:18:21.020 --> 01:18:29.860
 on here, and go back to actual American principles, and not all this international socialism stuff

01:18:29.860 --> 01:18:30.860
 they're trying to push.

01:18:30.860 --> 01:18:32.860
 Have a nice day.

01:18:32.860 --> 01:18:34.860
 Commissioner Perrett.

01:18:34.860 --> 01:18:36.860
 Charles, a question for you.

01:18:36.860 --> 01:18:39.460
 We've got a question for you this week.

01:18:39.460 --> 01:18:43.180
 Thank you for coming out and sharing your point of view.

01:18:43.180 --> 01:18:47.020
 Being that you're not in favor of this, would you be in favor of the opposite, which would

01:18:47.020 --> 01:18:51.540
 be increasing the requirements that we have on new housing, so that we make it more expensive

01:18:51.540 --> 01:18:52.540
 to build homes?

01:18:52.540 --> 01:18:59.400
 No, I'm saying that we need to really stop ... The more you spend on a government, nothing

01:18:59.400 --> 01:19:00.400
 is free.

01:19:00.400 --> 01:19:04.620
 People have to work for this money, and people have to pay for government.

01:19:04.620 --> 01:19:08.420
 We have to pay for everything, and people have to work for this money.

01:19:08.420 --> 01:19:12.020
 This is not monopoly money we're dealing with.

01:19:12.020 --> 01:19:17.220
 Middle class people, they're the people that pay the majority of the taxes in this country.

01:19:17.220 --> 01:19:18.220
 It's not the rich.

01:19:18.220 --> 01:19:19.220
 It's not the poor.

01:19:19.220 --> 01:19:21.500
 It's middle class working families.

01:19:21.500 --> 01:19:24.620
 Every time you spend this money, with these ideas we're going to give to this, and give

01:19:24.620 --> 01:19:28.340
 to that, and do this and that, you're putting a burden on people that don't receive anything

01:19:28.340 --> 01:19:30.060
 or any kind of benefit.

01:19:30.060 --> 01:19:35.540
 The middle class is shrinking in this country, and this is a real recipe for revolution.

01:19:35.540 --> 01:19:41.420
 We need to go back to conservative principles, where everything is baseline brass tax, where

01:19:41.420 --> 01:19:44.900
 we all live within our means.

01:19:44.900 --> 01:19:49.780
 Thank you.

01:19:49.780 --> 01:19:52.020
 This is a public hearing.

01:19:52.020 --> 01:19:53.020
 Someone else wishing to meet?

01:19:53.020 --> 01:19:54.020
 Yep.

01:19:54.020 --> 01:19:55.020
 If you'll state your name, your time will begin.

01:19:55.020 --> 01:19:56.020
 Hi.

01:19:56.020 --> 01:19:57.020
 My name is Amanda Conway.

01:19:57.020 --> 01:20:00.620
 I'm a resident of Denton, Texas.

01:20:00.620 --> 01:20:03.700
 I personally would love this plan.

01:20:03.700 --> 01:20:09.500
 I've been part of the input sessions, a renter.

01:20:09.500 --> 01:20:15.860
 Like many of those that were at some of the meetings, I'm not a developer, like a large-scale

01:20:15.860 --> 01:20:20.380
 developer or even a person who just buys up homes in my neighborhood.

01:20:20.380 --> 01:20:24.660
 I'm a renter, and I have a good landlord.

01:20:24.660 --> 01:20:28.820
 I plan to remain a renter, because that fits my personal situation.

01:20:28.820 --> 01:20:32.780
 I hope for other people to have that opportunity.

01:20:32.780 --> 01:20:41.540
 I personally would qualify for these low-income units, and I know that I'm college-educated,

01:20:41.540 --> 01:20:48.900
 that I work full-time, that I have a child, that I'm law-abiding, and I want an opportunity

01:20:48.900 --> 01:20:55.100
 to have a home that I can afford, that I can feel safe in.

01:20:55.100 --> 01:20:59.740
 I want my neighbors to also have that opportunity as well.

01:20:59.740 --> 01:21:00.740
 I think this plan's great.

01:21:00.740 --> 01:21:01.740
 Thank you.

01:21:01.740 --> 01:21:02.740
 Thank you.

01:21:02.740 --> 01:21:06.220
 I appreciate sharing your thoughts.

01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:08.460
 Anyone else wishing to speak on this item?

01:21:08.460 --> 01:21:09.460
 Hi.

01:21:09.460 --> 01:21:10.460
 Hello.

01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:14.380
 Yeah, I just wanted to speak- Will you state your name for us?

01:21:14.380 --> 01:21:15.380
 Christine Bray.

01:21:15.380 --> 01:21:16.380
 Thanks, Christine.

01:21:16.380 --> 01:21:17.380
 Thank you.

01:21:17.380 --> 01:21:18.380
 I just wanted to speak in support of this.

01:21:18.380 --> 01:21:21.420
 I got to attend the community involvement meeting.

01:21:21.420 --> 01:21:23.780
 I'm grateful that staff took our feedback.

01:21:23.780 --> 01:21:28.820
 I think if I could summarize the feedback from the meeting very briefly, it would be,

01:21:28.820 --> 01:21:29.820
 this is good.

01:21:29.820 --> 01:21:31.660
 Can we get a lot more of it?

01:21:31.660 --> 01:21:37.420
 It was encouraging to see that they took the suggestion of adding the number of incentives

01:21:37.420 --> 01:21:42.340
 that were available to you at each given affordability increment.

01:21:42.340 --> 01:21:46.660
 My only encouragement would be that we should evaluate this, see how many affordable units

01:21:46.660 --> 01:21:52.060
 it's actually creating, to see if this is actually getting response, to see if people

01:21:52.060 --> 01:21:53.820
 want to take this up.

01:21:53.820 --> 01:21:58.980
 If we're not happy with the amount of affordable units that this is producing, consider increasing

01:21:58.980 --> 01:21:59.980
 them in a year or two.

01:21:59.980 --> 01:22:00.980
 Thank you.

01:22:00.980 --> 01:22:04.100
 Thank you.

01:22:04.100 --> 01:22:05.100
 This is a public hearing.

01:22:05.100 --> 01:22:08.300
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item?

01:22:08.300 --> 01:22:14.780
 Okay, seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion

01:22:14.780 --> 01:22:15.780
 or motion.

01:22:15.780 --> 01:22:16.780
 Commissioner Pruitt.

01:22:16.780 --> 01:22:18.260
 Thank you, Chair.

01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:21.620
 Yeah, I'll be happy to move approval of this item.

01:22:21.620 --> 01:22:25.860
 I think we had a lot of good discussion in our work sessions about it.

01:22:25.860 --> 01:22:30.260
 I'm thankful for all the community involvement.

01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:38.020
 My hope is that this would be wildly successful, and I trust with our staff that if it is not

01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:44.980
 creating what we need to, that we would learn from the applications that come in, as well

01:22:44.980 --> 01:22:56.620
 as be active and acting on our own accord to go out and find what other restrictions

01:22:56.620 --> 01:23:03.700
 increase the cost of homes that would not pose an undue burden on our residents to make

01:23:03.700 --> 01:23:13.460
 sure that residents of Denton, from all ilks, can afford to put a roof over their heads.

01:23:13.460 --> 01:23:14.460
 Commissioner Cole.

01:23:14.460 --> 01:23:15.460
 I second.

01:23:15.460 --> 01:23:17.640
 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval.

01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.060
 Is there any further discussion?

01:23:20.060 --> 01:23:21.540
 Okay.

01:23:21.540 --> 01:23:29.260
 I'll just say thank you for putting this together, for the time you've taken, community involvement

01:23:29.260 --> 01:23:33.940
 you've gotten coming before us a couple of times, so we could have good discussion.

01:23:33.940 --> 01:23:40.580
 It would be a great thing to have in our toolkit and be interested to see what it does to bring

01:23:40.580 --> 01:23:46.380
 that opportunity, needed opportunity, to our city.

01:23:46.380 --> 01:23:51.740
 I would hope that maybe with whatever timeframe makes sense that you would come before this

01:23:51.740 --> 01:23:57.260
 board and city council and give us an update and see how this tool is operating.

01:23:57.260 --> 01:23:59.420
 It would be great.

01:23:59.420 --> 01:24:00.420
 Okay.

01:24:00.420 --> 01:24:08.680
 Seeing no further discussion, let's go ahead and vote on the board, please.

01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:11.140
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:24:11.140 --> 01:24:17.140
 That will take us to our planning and zoning matrix, and I will turn it to Haley for that.

01:24:17.140 --> 01:24:18.140
 Good evening.

01:24:18.140 --> 01:24:21.340
 I did want to let you all know that we've updated the matrix that was in your packet

01:24:21.340 --> 01:24:25.460
 with the two items we discussed last meeting, so we are coordinating with parks to hopefully

01:24:25.460 --> 01:24:29.760
 get that master plan update to you all this fall.

01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:35.220
 With regard to city council updates, at the meeting on the 20th, we did have a few items

01:24:35.220 --> 01:24:37.900
 that were approved that had previously been before you all.

01:24:37.900 --> 01:24:42.340
 The charter school code amendments were approved, as well as the comprehensive plan amendment

01:24:42.340 --> 01:24:46.820
 and rezoning for the Dentex project that was located on the south side of All Red Road.

01:24:46.820 --> 01:24:51.780
 With that, we're happy to add anything else to the matrix that you all may wish to have

01:24:51.780 --> 01:24:52.780
 on there.

01:24:52.780 --> 01:24:56.260
 Anything to add to the matrix?

01:24:56.260 --> 01:25:04.300
 I don't know if this should be a matrix item or informational for us, but the item that

01:25:04.300 --> 01:25:11.620
 got postponed today is a multifamily SUP, so curious, I know we've brought it up before

01:25:11.620 --> 01:25:23.460
 of wondering how many multifamily projects we have in process and approved pending construction.

01:25:23.460 --> 01:25:29.380
 If we could maybe get an update on that, I think it would be helpful as we move forward

01:25:29.380 --> 01:25:35.360
 with that case, if it comes before us in any future, it would be great to get that update.

01:25:35.360 --> 01:25:39.060
 Certainly we can definitely find a way to get you all that data.

01:25:39.060 --> 01:25:44.140
 Is there a time frame for the past year or two years, what would you be most interested

01:25:44.140 --> 01:25:45.140
 in?

01:25:45.140 --> 01:25:48.140
 Well, really in process.

01:25:48.140 --> 01:25:52.420
 Things that are on the ground and functioning already, that's not really what I'm going

01:25:52.420 --> 01:25:53.540
 for.

01:25:53.540 --> 01:26:00.980
 It seems we've had a lot of requests over the last, I don't know, certainly year, maybe

01:26:00.980 --> 01:26:12.140
 two, of multifamily projects, whether an SUP or not, so I guess that's what I'm wanting

01:26:12.140 --> 01:26:13.340
 a number for.

01:26:13.340 --> 01:26:17.300
 I think that would be helpful for us as we continue to discuss these.

01:26:17.300 --> 01:26:18.300
 Okay, certainly.

01:26:18.300 --> 01:26:21.740
 Yeah, it may not be something we need to bring back as a work session, but we can shoot you

01:26:21.740 --> 01:26:24.300
 all a report or something of that nature to get you that data.

01:26:24.300 --> 01:26:25.300
 That would be lovely.

01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:26.300
 Thank you.

01:26:26.300 --> 01:26:28.460
 Anything else for the matrix?

01:26:28.460 --> 01:26:30.500
 Any concluding items?

01:26:30.500 --> 01:26:35.020
 Okay, with that I'll go ahead and adjourn us at 7.08 p.m.

01:26:35.020 --> 01:26:35.620
 Thank you very much.