1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,220 >> Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's planning and zoning commission 2 00:00:05,220 --> 00:00:08,320 meeting for Wednesday, August 28th. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,720 This is our work session. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,000 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 5.05 p.m. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Let the record show that Commissioner Thaggard and Commissioner Villarreal are absent today. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,080 First item on our work session is clarification of tonight's agenda. 7 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:27,440 First one being the minutes for August 14th. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Any questions about the minutes? 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Okay. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Then we've got two individual consideration items. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 The first being FP240025. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Mia, are you giving us any quick run down of that one, please? 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Thank you. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,120 >> Good evening. 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner. 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:05,920 This is a final plat for 380 old north, located just north of 380 west of old north road. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,840 They are not ready for approval at this time, so we are recommending denial. 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,740 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024. 19 00:01:15,740 --> 00:01:16,740 Any questions? 20 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:17,740 >> Okay. 21 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:18,740 Questions for Mia? 22 00:01:18,740 --> 00:01:19,740 Okay. 23 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:26,920 That will move us to FP240030. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,640 >> Similarly, this is a plat actually in the city's ETJ, located at the northeast corner 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,600 of FM1173 and Mottch Branch Road. 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Again, they are not ready for approval at this time, so we are recommending denial. 27 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,080 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024. 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Any questions? 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Okay. 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Thanks, Mia. 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,520 4A and 4B, the applicant is requesting that be postponed indefinitely, so we will not 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,000 be taking action on either of those tonight. 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,280 So that will take us to 4CHL240002. 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Karen is here and ready for a summary of that. 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Hi. 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,840 >> Hi. 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Thank you, chair and commission. 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Let me pull up this, okay. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Sorry, okay. 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,120 So before I begin, just want to kind of give a background about historic landmark. 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,720 I know we have some new commissioners who have not seen a historic landmark designation 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,720 come through yet, so just want to give a brief background before I go over a summary. 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,120 So in terms of what is a historic landmark, in this instance, we're working specifically 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,120 with a building. 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,360 It is one that's officially recognized by the city for its outstanding architectural, 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:53,040 archaeological, cultural, social, economic, ethnic, or political, historical significance. 47 00:02:53,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Right now in the city, we have 65 local historic landmark designations, and as y'all are well 48 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,680 aware, this is a zoning action, so it is a three-step process. 49 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,360 It first went to the Historic Landmark Commission for review, then it comes to the Planning 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:14,960 and Zoning Commission for review, and then lastly, the City Council for final approval. 51 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,160 So just quickly, some of the benefits of a historic landmark, there are property owner 52 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,440 benefits as well as community benefits. 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:27,480 I have a bunch of bullet points listed, but I'll kind of highlight that the popular ones, 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,080 property owner benefits, it does make them eligible for a local historic tax exemption. 55 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,640 It does provide that kind of invisible recognition with a plaque on the property. 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Some of the community benefits, it does encourage better design because there are some design 57 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,480 standards that come with that. 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,880 It also protects from swift demolition, and then it does discourage kind of that sprawl 59 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,320 and it looks towards reuse of those historic structures. 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,080 So jumping into my summary, it is a historic landmark designation for 1526 Willowwood Street. 61 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,000 The zoning is R3. 62 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 It is located in the Deenia neighborhood. 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,440 It does meet our Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan, our goal community character two, as 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,760 well as our 2019 Historic Preservation Plan, goal number one, policy 1.3. 65 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,420 So staff is recommending approval as it does comply with those two plans as well as our 66 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:19,160 Denton Development Code criteria. 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,840 And I can stand for any questions. 68 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:22,840 Thank you. 69 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:23,840 Any questions? 70 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:24,840 Oh, Commissioner Prud? 71 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:25,840 Thank you, Chair. 72 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:35,360 I really enjoyed the backup on this, thank you. 73 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,680 In general, as we see more of these coming through, which I think is a realization of 74 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:49,600 some of the goals from the Comprehensive Plan, I would like to better understand how we should 75 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,480 evaluate the priority of different applications. 76 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,360 You know, we've done a lot of surveys. 77 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,360 We have thousands of properties identified as eligible. 78 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:07,320 And somewhere between zero and thousands is the right number of the right mix of types 79 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,960 of properties or types of things we want to preserve, right? 80 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:19,640 So I just, I would feel better understanding more than a pass/fail checklist, which is 81 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,000 kind of how our Comprehensive, I'm sorry, how our Development Code is structured. 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:32,320 And so I understand that's why the goals and that sort of thing are structured that way. 83 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:40,640 But I would feel better knowing, oh, actually, you know, because of so-and-so somebody or, 84 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,840 well, this is a past council member and that was a particularly highly rated thing that 85 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:48,320 we wanted to preserve, that sort of thing, right? 86 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:56,960 So anyway, and I did want to point out that, you know, the reference to the live-work architecture 87 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,640 within this structure, I think, actually, you wouldn't be able to build this building 88 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:09,700 right now, even if it were zoned for a live-work area, because our code requires the commercial 89 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:13,680 portion to be more than 50% of the total square footage. 90 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,440 So it seems a little strange, but that's all. 91 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Thank you. 92 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Thanks, Commissioner McHurd. 93 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,200 I think I'm confused as to what you want. 94 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Are you wanting to do something as far as the information we're getting? 95 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,480 No. 96 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:37,440 I think all the backup and information on individual properties is very helpful. 97 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:44,520 I feel like I'm not sure how to weight different applications as they come forward in the future. 98 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,040 So sorry, I'm not better at explaining that. 99 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,040 No, that's okay. 100 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,520 I'll just like have Cameron. 101 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 So do we have a glut of applications? 102 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,720 So this is our second application of the year. 103 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,920 For I think over five years, we had not received any applications. 104 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,560 So this is the most we've seen since I've been here since 2021. 105 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,880 And I'm hoping that we see more come in the future. 106 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,760 But in comparison to the eligible properties, which is in the thousands, it's over I think 107 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,280 close to 3,000 properties that are currently eligible, we're not seeing as big of an influx 108 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,640 of people interested in designation as we would hope from the preservation program. 109 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,000 So are you trying to find a way to get people? 110 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Because it's not like the city can go and say, "Hey, let's designate your house." 111 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,360 No, I completely understand how it's a voluntary thing. 112 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,520 I mean, maybe there's more we can do in promotion of it. 113 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:43,360 I'm thinking more from a...because it's a voluntary thing, all I'm aware of is we have 114 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,760 this program and if somebody finds out about it and they come apply, then if it passes 115 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,440 the rubrics, then you're in. 116 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:58,000 If there's some way of saying, "Okay, well, this one on some grading scale of whatever 117 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:05,080 it is, is one that we really want," as opposed to, "Well, it's eligible, but it's not as 118 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,160 high priority," or something like that. 119 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Does that make any sense? 120 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,160 I mean, it does. 121 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,080 I just don't know how they could use it in the sense that, again, you're not going to 122 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:19,760 go knock on a homeowner's door and say, "Hey, we think that this is a number one priority." 123 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,880 I was just saying... 124 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Oh, sorry. 125 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,880 No, go ahead. 126 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,880 No, please. 127 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:31,400 I think to maybe better answer your question or inquiry is, when it comes to historic structures, 128 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,680 if we find something that's eligible, that means it's a high priority, whether it's not 129 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:41,160 a high priority to the community, it's a high priority to preserve that structure historically 130 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,000 due to its architectural significance, cultural significance. 131 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,320 It really is on going to the Historic Landmark Commission. 132 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,840 If they task me with reaching out to a property owner, I do that, or the property owner coming 133 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:02,120 to staff and requesting it, but we don't really grade high, medium, low in terms of historic 134 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,160 preservation anymore. 135 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,240 We used to. 136 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:10,240 In a lot of our surveys, our 1996 survey, for instance, does high, medium, low, but 137 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,360 the Texas Historical Commission and surveys moving forward, they've switched to, if it's 138 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,000 eligible, it's eligible, and it's just as a priority as what we used to rank. 139 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,360 I understand what you're saying. 140 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,120 I do think it's a little bit difficult for staff to pick and choose. 141 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,240 I think it would have to be more of a community feedback where we get that community feedback 142 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,200 saying, "What do you think is a priority? 143 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Let's go for those first, and then we can work down our eligible list." 144 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 But currently, as we have it, anything that's eligible, that's a high priority. 145 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Okay. 146 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Thank you. 147 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,160 So basically, you're saying that. 148 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,880 I mean, it all weights out the same. 149 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:44,880 One's not. 150 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,000 If it makes the list, it would be something that- 151 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Just as important as the next one. 152 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Yeah. 153 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Yeah. 154 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Thank you. 155 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Yeah. 156 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Commissioner Cole. 157 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Thank you, Chair. 158 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,960 So I was curious about the exemption. 159 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,480 I mean, what amount is that tax exemption for historic? 160 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:09,160 It is currently 50% of your city property tax, and it lasts for 10 years, and you can 161 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,760 reapply, but you have to spend a minimum of $10,000 to even be eligible to reapply. 162 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 So there does have to be some cost by the property owner. 163 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Thank you. 164 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Of course. 165 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,880 Anything else? 166 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,880 No? 167 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Okay. 168 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Let's go to our next one. 169 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,960 Okay. 170 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,960 HL240003. 171 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Thank you, Chair and Commissioner Cameron Robertson, Historic Preservation Officer. 172 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,880 This one I'll jump into a little bit more quickly. 173 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,620 So to summarize, it is a historic landmark designation for 1900 Westridge Street. 174 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:46,120 It's also located in the Denia neighborhood and zoned R3. 175 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,240 It does meet our Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan Goal CC2, as well as our 2019 Historic 176 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,600 Preservation Plan. 177 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:59,080 So staff is recommending approval as it does comply with both of those plans, as well as 178 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,720 our Denton Development Code criteria put forth. 179 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Any questions? 180 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Thanks. 181 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,720 I'm Ellen. 182 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,720 Lovely. 183 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Mount Miller. 184 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,560 I'm excited to always see them, so great. 185 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,920 Thank you, Cameron. 186 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Our final public hearing item for tonight is 4E DCA240010. 187 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Leah is making her way up here. 188 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Hi. 189 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,720 Hello. 190 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,720 Give me a moment to find it. 191 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Give me a hand, I'm having a bit of trouble finding it, but we're just on our plan. 192 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Oh, oops. 193 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Thank you. 194 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,720 There we go. 195 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,720 You're right. 196 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,720 Understood. 197 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Can I present in PDF? 198 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,720 Okay. 199 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,220 We'll do it like this. 200 00:11:57,220 --> 00:11:59,220 Good evening. 201 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:00,920 Leah Atkinson, Housing Programs Coordinator. 202 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Good to see you, Commission. 203 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,160 We are here to talk about the proposed affordability incentive amendment. 204 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,200 I'll just give a high level of review and answer any questions. 205 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,160 I won't go through the whole presentation. 206 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,880 These are the nine incentives as proposed. 207 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,680 We've seen them a few times. 208 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,200 Can we maybe expand that? 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,640 It probably will look better on screen. 210 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,160 I think it's to take away the boarder. 211 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Can you do that? 212 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:34,520 I'm thinking it's the button next to the X, yeah. 213 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Is it F11? 214 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:52,760 There we go. 215 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Thank you. 216 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,760 Yeah. 217 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Much better for a video view. 218 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Absolutely. 219 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Thank you. 220 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Yeah, thank you. 221 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,800 These are the nine incentives as proposed. 222 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,800 You've seen them before. 223 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,360 It's a 20% deviation from minimum yard and setback requirements, maximum building coverage, 224 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:14,120 minimum lot width, depth and area, maximum building height, and minimum unit size, as 225 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,320 well as 10 point reduction from the landscaping area point system and a parking reduction 226 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,080 down to one spot per affordable dwelling unit. 227 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:29,140 In exchange, this is the updated table as directed by this commission last time we spoke. 228 00:13:29,140 --> 00:13:34,840 This would be the affordability chart that residential developments would offer in exchange 229 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,440 for those incentives. 230 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:42,760 So if three or fewer incentives are utilized, it would begin at 20% of the units being affordable, 231 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 broken down over three different income categories. 232 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,720 The duration of that affordability would be 30 years, no matter the number of incentives 233 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:55,480 utilized, which was also the direction of this commission. 234 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,640 I think I'll go ahead and leave it there unless you all have any further questions or anything 235 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,640 else today. 236 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Any questions? 237 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,640 I know we've gone over this before. 238 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Okay. 239 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Okay. 240 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Thanks so much. 241 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640 We'll see you in public session. 242 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Thank you. 243 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Okay. 244 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,640 That ends our agenda. 245 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,960 So then we'll go right into our work session reports. 246 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:27,040 The first being 2A, PZ24174, Brice is here, oh, Julie is here. 247 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,200 I didn't have an agenda, so I was like, is that me? 248 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,200 I think Brice is first. 249 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,640 On the agenda, yeah. 250 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,240 I didn't know if you were being Brice or what was happening, but. 251 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,780 I was a little confused as well. 252 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:50,360 Julie really wants to present this, I know. 253 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Good evening, commission. 254 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Brice Van Arsdale, assistant planner. 255 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,120 This is DCA 240011. 256 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Staff is requesting direction regarding changes to the Denton Development Code in relation 257 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,440 to domestic animal land uses. 258 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Currently, most domestic animal land uses will fall under either kennel or personal 259 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,600 service general land use definitions. 260 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:15,080 However, as the market has developed, we often see many of these uses under the same building. 261 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,200 For instance, a doggy daycare will include daycare services, overnight boarding, as well 262 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,880 as grooming and training, all under the same roof. 263 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,760 With the two existing definitions, I'll call your attention first to kennel, which specifically 264 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,760 calls out overnight boarding, as well as personal service general, which you'll see highlighted 265 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,140 at the bottom, specifically calls out pet grooming shops. 266 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:40,220 As just mentioned, we often see these under the same roof, which leaves staff in a bit 267 00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:45,380 of a murky area when trying to interpret this and apply the correct standards. 268 00:15:45,380 --> 00:15:51,620 We are applying or proposing two separate definitions we added to the Denton Development 269 00:15:51,620 --> 00:15:52,620 Code. 270 00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:56,940 They both relate to the grooming, boarding, adoption, or daycare services of domestic 271 00:15:56,940 --> 00:16:01,040 animals while excluding veterinary care in the sale of these animals. 272 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,900 The differentiation between the indoor and the outdoor will be made with the use specific 273 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,060 standards. 274 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:11,300 One note here with the commercial animal services, they are very similar to the zoning districts 275 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,140 in which a veterinary clinic is allowed. 276 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:17,900 The major difference being made is that the outdoor use is not permitted in the MN or 277 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:22,180 MD zoning districts. 278 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:25,140 With the use specific standards, there are quite a few words there, but there are two 279 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:28,780 key takeaways that I would like you guys to take away from this. 280 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:34,540 First, when there's a residential zoning district adjacent to or within the property that the 281 00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:39,800 building is or the proposed business is being located in, we do require that there's a distance 282 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,820 minimum between any outdoor component and the adjacent property. 283 00:16:43,820 --> 00:16:47,540 Additionally, this outdoor component will have a time restriction on it in which the 284 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:52,220 business owner cannot utilize that area after a specific time. 285 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:56,340 With the second use specific standard, the commercial animal service indoor will be limited 286 00:16:56,340 --> 00:17:02,380 to no more than 50% of the building the proposed business be allocated for an outdoor element. 287 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:07,340 In the mixed use zoning districts, this 50% is further restricted to 25% that can be allocated 288 00:17:07,340 --> 00:17:11,900 as an outdoor component for these businesses. 289 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,420 You'll notice that the definitions and the amendments for commercial stable as well as 290 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:18,220 personal service general are fairly minor in nature. 291 00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:22,580 However, we are removing kennel from the Denton Development Code as this does, any proposed 292 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:27,940 kennel will now fall under the commercial animal services definitions. 293 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:32,900 Additionally, we did make two minor edits to the use specific standards for veterinary 294 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:33,900 clinics. 295 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:38,180 Generally, these apply to onsite livestock veterinary care. 296 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:40,260 Just as a point of clarity, it is rare that we see that. 297 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:44,100 More often than not, these veterinarians are going onsite to treat these animals, but as 298 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:50,380 the city continues to grow, we wanted to provide that protection for these businesses. 299 00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:55,460 Both of the proposed definitions will fall under the one space per 500 square foot per 300 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:57,780 gross floor area parking requirement. 301 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:01,500 This is consistent with the established veterinarian clinic. 302 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:06,020 The staff is requesting direction regarding these amendments, and I am here to listen 303 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:08,060 for any feedback, questions, or comments. 304 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:12,820 I know I have a few things. 305 00:18:12,820 --> 00:18:13,820 Absolutely. 306 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:19,060 Can you go back to the ... I think it's the first slide. 307 00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:26,260 This is going to ... This is me ... No, keep going. 308 00:18:26,260 --> 00:18:31,400 The wording on this makes my brain hurt. 309 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,860 Is there a way ... I'm assuming what you're trying to say is primary located indoors or 310 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:41,900 primary located outdoors for these commercial animal services. 311 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:51,260 Can we switch that wording so that it is an establishment or business related to grooming, 312 00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:56,500 boarding adopted, domestic animals, blah, blah, blah, which is primary located indoors, 313 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:57,860 excluding veterinary clinics? 314 00:18:57,860 --> 00:18:58,860 Sure. 315 00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:00,100 Can we switch? 316 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:07,140 Because it is hard the way that it reads right now what you're trying to say about what's 317 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:10,540 located indoors, and it sounds like veterinary clinics. 318 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:11,820 Absolutely. 319 00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:20,620 That's just my English coming out, English training. 320 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:31,460 I'm working on the red line here. 321 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:40,220 We're allowing this commercial animal use in MN and MD, where before with kennels we 322 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:41,860 didn't have it like that. 323 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:45,140 Just wondering how staff came to that decision. 324 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:46,580 Yeah, absolutely. 325 00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:51,660 With the MN and MD, specifically the indoor, we do allow something like a veterinary clinic 326 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:55,420 or a personal service, for instance, you'll see is the bottom line. 327 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:59,660 Anything that's like a grooming or a daycare service, those will also fall under that definition, 328 00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:01,420 so we do want to allow for that. 329 00:20:01,420 --> 00:20:08,260 However, with the use specific standards, I believe it's B2B2, you'll see we do require 330 00:20:08,260 --> 00:20:13,380 a specific use permit in these zoning districts, as well as further restrict that outdoor component. 331 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:20,300 Okay, and did you just decide that, I mean, they should be allowed here? 332 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:21,300 Yeah. 333 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:22,300 Yeah, totally. 334 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:23,300 Just because? 335 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:24,300 No, totally fair. 336 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:28,900 So we really based that on the personal service, which is where the pet grooming shops currently 337 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:31,140 fall under. 338 00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:32,140 That helps me. 339 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:35,540 That's what I was trying to follow where you were following on that table. 340 00:20:35,540 --> 00:20:40,380 That's exactly the answer I needed for that question, thank you. 341 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:45,140 Then the whole commercial stable thing, is that not a commercial animal service, I guess? 342 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:48,980 So we do leave that as its own definition still, since it's more, it's less about the 343 00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:53,580 domestic animals, which are specified within the definition of commercial animal services. 344 00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:57,500 We did change that definition slightly just to meet livestock, which is now defined under 345 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,500 the code of ordinances. 346 00:20:58,500 --> 00:20:59,500 Okay, okay. 347 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,940 Yeah, I was just trying to understand why it was not that. 348 00:21:01,940 --> 00:21:10,060 That helps me, thank you. 349 00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:20,020 Here we've got the enclosed building requirement, that's item three, what was that, B23, I think. 350 00:21:20,020 --> 00:21:21,700 The very bottom there? 351 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:22,700 Yeah. 352 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:25,100 And I don't know if this is even possible. 353 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:29,260 Can we say it has to be air conditioned, or is that not a thing we're allowed to do? 354 00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:31,340 I'd probably go to Hillary for that one. 355 00:21:31,340 --> 00:21:32,340 This is pretty standard language. 356 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:33,340 Okay. 357 00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:36,020 There are several different definitions that have this use specific standard, and it is 358 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:40,260 standard language for what we have already on the DDC. 359 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:48,780 Yeah, I mean, it's just, I can't imagine somebody having that without, but also, I also know 360 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:53,740 that people are not always the most humane with animals. 361 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:54,740 Absolutely. 362 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:55,740 Happy looking into it. 363 00:21:55,740 --> 00:21:56,740 Yeah, thank you. 364 00:21:56,740 --> 00:21:57,740 Yes, ma'am. 365 00:21:57,740 --> 00:22:05,580 Okay, so there's that, I'm just going through my notes, make sure I asked you all of them. 366 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:15,140 Let me answer that, oh, this last one I have, actually, I'm sorry, I have two more. 367 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:21,140 The 150 feet of an adjacent property residential, so that's B1A? 368 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:23,580 Yes, ma'am. 369 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:28,820 That seems close to me, was that here before, or? 370 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:32,500 Yeah, so it was not previously established, but it is something that we looked at some 371 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,940 other municipalities, what their standards were. 372 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:40,300 We also spoke with Animal Services, and unfortunately, their opinion was it really doesn't matter 373 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:45,420 how far it is, dogs are allowed, but 150 feet does allow for odors, anything like mess or 374 00:22:45,420 --> 00:22:49,580 anything like that to stay on the initial property, on the subject property rather than 375 00:22:49,580 --> 00:22:52,940 being spread, and it helps with the noise a little bit, but not like we'd like to see 376 00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:53,940 in a larger property. 377 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:58,100 Yeah, it just still seems very close to me, 150 feet's not that far from a residential 378 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:02,820 house. 379 00:23:02,820 --> 00:23:16,740 My last one has, going back to the definition, in the backup, it mentioned cat cafes as being 380 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:20,260 maybe something, somebody has come forth, and I can believe that they're in so many 381 00:23:20,260 --> 00:23:23,660 cities now, but how does this definition help with that? 382 00:23:23,660 --> 00:23:24,660 Absolutely. 383 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:25,660 I don't see that. 384 00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:26,660 We just had the same conversation. 385 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:27,660 Okay. 386 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:31,580 Yeah, so we do think that that would fall under the boarding instance of this definition. 387 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:34,740 It would also depend on the primary use of the business based on the square footage, 388 00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:37,980 whether it be a restaurant or that sort of thing, and this may be an accessory use to 389 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:38,980 that restaurant. 390 00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:41,840 So you're going to interpret it as boarding? 391 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,500 If the animals are staying overnight, yes ma'am. 392 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:48,300 It would also, if they're doing, some of these are adoption in an effort to have people spend 393 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:51,220 time with these animals, that sort of thing, so that would be another way that we capture 394 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:52,220 that. 395 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:53,220 Okay. 396 00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:54,220 Okay. 397 00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:59,000 I'm going to let someone else talk now, thank you for answering my questions, if anyone 398 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,000 has questions. 399 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,940 I'm going to let you finish your prayer. 400 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:02,940 Just a few short ones. 401 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:08,460 First, can you go back to the why slide that you had? 402 00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:20,380 Yeah, so I'm trying to read into these bullets to understand, have we had a difficulty categorizing 403 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:21,380 applications? 404 00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:22,380 Absolutely. 405 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:23,380 Okay. 406 00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:25,260 So there's been a lot of doggie daycares, for instance, at Camp Bow while I was applied 407 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:29,060 recently, and I believe we're taking that as a personal service general use. 408 00:24:29,060 --> 00:24:33,940 However, it doesn't totally meet that, as we do have overnight boarding with that, as 409 00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:38,760 well as the training and some other land uses underneath that umbrella. 410 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,380 So it does leave staff in a little bit of a gray area in which one to interpret. 411 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:44,380 Okay. 412 00:24:44,380 --> 00:24:45,380 Okay. 413 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:52,140 Just because kennel wasn't the automatic bucket if there was overnight boarding necessarily? 414 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,140 Unfortunately not. 415 00:24:53,140 --> 00:24:54,140 Okay. 416 00:24:54,140 --> 00:25:02,060 So that strikes me as the core nugget of the challenge that we're trying to solve, correct 417 00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:03,060 me if I'm wrong. 418 00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:04,060 No, absolutely. 419 00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:08,380 So kennel itself is more or less an antiquated business use where we don't just see boarding 420 00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:09,380 anymore. 421 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:12,260 More often than not, we now see the grooming, the training, the daycare, all these into 422 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:13,260 the same building. 423 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:14,260 Okay. 424 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:19,660 Just two other questions, I think, to the same slide that Commissioner Ellis requested. 425 00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:22,980 No, sorry. 426 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:23,980 That one, yes. 427 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:35,860 On the enclosed building requirement, this is B sub item three that would apply to outdoor. 428 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:40,340 And then we're saying that all the boarding has to be indoors? 429 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:41,340 Yeah. 430 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:45,620 So any boarding that is interior to, well, I'm sorry. 431 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:46,620 Yeah. 432 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:47,620 So any boarding must be indoors. 433 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:50,420 We won't allow an outdoor kennel to be proposed. 434 00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:51,420 Okay. 435 00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:59,620 I just know many of them are outside of the city limits, but there are several animal 436 00:25:59,620 --> 00:26:10,280 boarding facilities that have a desirable amenity where an animal may have a private 437 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,540 indoor area as well as an outdoor area that they can go. 438 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:17,500 And by reading this, it sounds like that would not be allowed, that they would have to restrict 439 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,140 them to the animal staying indoors. 440 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:23,060 So I believe we would still allow that, but I think a lot of these places do have more 441 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:26,140 or less like a doggie door that the dog's able to go in and out of that can be shut 442 00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:29,500 after a certain time, which would also apply to the noise. 443 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:30,500 Okay. 444 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:40,100 So it's really just, the intention then is to ensure that the boarding of animals overnight 445 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,340 is contained indoors as opposed to... 446 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:47,220 That as well as a bit of the AC thought as well, where we don't want to just have dogs 447 00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,220 sitting in full sun. 448 00:26:48,220 --> 00:26:52,180 There's an indoor area available and they're not left outdoors at night. 449 00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:53,180 Absolutely. 450 00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:54,180 Okay. 451 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:55,180 So I don't see that in the language. 452 00:26:55,180 --> 00:27:01,740 I don't know if it needs to be clarified to describe that, but that's what I see. 453 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:13,540 And then the indoor services, right, that's kind of would be the new bucket for animal 454 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:16,460 personal services. 455 00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:25,100 There's many grooming facilities that don't board the animals overnight, but they do have 456 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:30,460 some crates or kennels that they keep the animals in and they might keep them there 457 00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:34,180 and phase them just for efficiency reasons over a period of a number of hours. 458 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:37,540 I imagine that they do need to go to the bathroom. 459 00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:38,900 Absolutely. 460 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:50,900 And I'm concerned that the hard SUP requirement for any outdoor activity would not allow a 461 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:57,580 pet grooming shop essentially in the MN and MD districts. 462 00:27:57,580 --> 00:27:58,580 Does that make sense? 463 00:27:58,580 --> 00:27:59,580 It does. 464 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,780 And I don't know if that's really the intention to restrict that. 465 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:04,460 So that's one concern I see. 466 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:05,460 Sure. 467 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:09,260 I'm looking into that for the public hearing. 468 00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:17,820 I think possibly your issue about the enclosed might be taken care of with B1B where it talks 469 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:22,500 about outdoor can't be used after 9 p.m. 470 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:27,420 Because most of those runs, I mean, a typical kennel is going to close that dog door overnight. 471 00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:32,780 They're not going to let the dogs run free at night with no supervision and their staff 472 00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:35,660 doesn't work overnight. 473 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:36,660 Okay. 474 00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:40,420 Do you have anything you're good on your questions? 475 00:28:40,420 --> 00:28:41,980 No, I'm good. 476 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:47,260 And maybe it's just that I'm not also looking at the definition of animal boarding or something 477 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:53,820 that I don't grasp what that sub item three is grasping or covering, if you will. 478 00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:54,820 Got it. 479 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:55,820 Okay. 480 00:28:55,820 --> 00:28:56,820 Thank you. 481 00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:57,820 Got it. 482 00:28:57,820 --> 00:28:58,820 Understood. 483 00:28:58,820 --> 00:28:59,820 Anything else? 484 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:00,820 No. 485 00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:01,820 Thanks for this. 486 00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:02,820 Thanks for this. 487 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:03,820 Yeah. 488 00:29:03,820 --> 00:29:08,220 It's interesting that we had, you know, the dog stuff under personal services because all 489 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:11,780 of that seemed to be like human services and dog grooming, you know. 490 00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:12,780 Absolutely. 491 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:13,780 Yeah. 492 00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:14,780 It's probably a good thing that we're – 493 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:15,780 We tagged it on. 494 00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:16,780 Yeah. 495 00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:17,780 It was funny. 496 00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:18,780 Okay. 497 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:19,780 Thanks, Bryce. 498 00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:20,780 We'll see you. 499 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:21,780 Awesome. 500 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:22,780 Thank you. 501 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:24,900 Let's see. 502 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:30,500 Now it's Julie's show for 2B PZ24173 Received Report. 503 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:36,180 Hold the discussion regarding implementation of the 20/40 Comprehensive Plan. 504 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:37,900 I apologize for jumping the gun. 505 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:41,140 I got really excited about talking about the comp plan. 506 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:53,180 All right, I'm Julie Wyatt, and I am presenting the annual report for the Denton 20/40 Comprehensive 507 00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:56,820 Plan to you tonight. 508 00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:04,180 Just as a refresher, the Denton 20/40 Comprehensive Plan was adopted in March of 2022. 509 00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:10,100 Within the plan – and it contains – there are eight chapters, also known as elements 510 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,020 within the plan. 511 00:30:12,020 --> 00:30:18,140 Within those eight chapters are 548 recommended actions to implement the plan. 512 00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:29,260 In order to make that a more manageable amount, we synthesized those 548 into 253 key actions. 513 00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:36,340 The key actions are a combination of a variety of recommended actions. 514 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:38,980 They are organized in four timeframes. 515 00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:44,780 The short, which is three years from plan adoption, mid-term, three to five years, long-term, 516 00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:52,180 beyond that five years, and then ongoing, and those are those actions that are continued 517 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:56,380 and addressed on that continuing basis. 518 00:30:56,380 --> 00:31:03,020 This is that framework to guide our decision making for our goals, as well as our allotment 519 00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:08,740 of resources, as well as that task list for us to follow. 520 00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:11,540 I mentioned there's the eight chapters. 521 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:15,820 There are key actions associated with each chapter. 522 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:20,740 Some of those key actions may cross chapters, but generally they're associated with a 523 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,700 specific chapter. 524 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:33,220 We have accomplished, or have ongoing, 95 of the 253 key actions within the Comprehensive 525 00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:41,460 Plan over the last year, and of the 58 short-term actions, 13 of those were completed, and that's 526 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:42,940 22%. 527 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:46,460 It's been a busy year. 528 00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:48,500 In the past, we've just talked about a list. 529 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:52,860 We thought we'd do it a little differently this year, and just talk about some highlights. 530 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:58,300 What we're going to go through is just not everything that we accomplished, not all 95 531 00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:02,780 actions, but we're just going to talk about some things that we thought you might be interested 532 00:32:02,780 --> 00:32:07,460 in knowing a little bit more about, and just some of those highlights. 533 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:10,660 We're going to start first with our area planning efforts. 534 00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:12,140 I won't go into a lot of detail. 535 00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:17,700 I know you've talked about these things a lot, but we've had two area plans. 536 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:18,740 One has been accomplished. 537 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:21,140 The Southeast Denton Area Plan was adopted. 538 00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:24,740 Design Downtown Denton is going through that public hearing process. 539 00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:29,340 As you know, this is going to guide our zoning decisions and community investment for both 540 00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:31,840 of these areas over the next 20 years. 541 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,460 This is related to Chapter 2, Chapter 4, and Chapter 7, so it really crosses a lot of chapters. 542 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:43,260 It's a lot of that comprehensive plan, and quite a few key actions that you can see on 543 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:47,380 the bottom of your screen. 544 00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:52,340 Staff has also worked on maintaining a vibrant and historic downtown square. 545 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:57,940 I don't know how many of you know about the Downtown Reinvestment Grant, but we do have 546 00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:02,020 the Downtown Reinvestment Grant within the City of Denton, and that can include funds 547 00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:11,500 for exterior facade rehabilitation, fire suppression on the square, asbestos abatement, accessibility 548 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,620 improvements, it can go to impact fee reimbursement. 549 00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:25,860 It is a 50% match with a cap of $50,000, and the exterior work needs to comply with the 550 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:31,580 Denton Square District, and that is the zoning overlay within our downtown area, and that's 551 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:37,140 further supports the historic preservation efforts within the City of Denton and on the 552 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:38,500 square. 553 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:44,060 If you weren't aware of the Downtown Reinvestment Grant, you've probably seen it in action, 554 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:49,940 because McNeils was one of those buildings that did use that grant, and you could see 555 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:54,500 McNeils here, you could see its evolution at the top. 556 00:33:54,500 --> 00:34:01,460 Here it is, here it was for, I don't know when that facade was put on, but it was recently 557 00:34:01,460 --> 00:34:08,660 removed, and now you can see that that street frontage looks more like it did many decades 558 00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:09,660 ago. 559 00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:15,780 So it's a really successful program, it's something that Karen works a lot on as our 560 00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:17,980 historic preservation officer. 561 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:22,980 She coordinates with the property owners to make sure that they stay in compliance with 562 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:23,980 the regulations. 563 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:29,340 Also, our main street coordinator works tirelessly with this grant to make sure that we keep 564 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:35,300 the buildings in compliance and make sure that we have all the necessary information 565 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,140 from the property owners. 566 00:34:37,140 --> 00:34:41,340 Also the downtown ambassadors, if you've been downtown, you've seen the people with the 567 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:49,100 red shirts, they have removed 655 items of graffiti between February and July of this 568 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,100 year. 569 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,980 That is a lot, so they have been working hard. 570 00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:59,540 This is related to not only land use but also our fiscal and economic vitality, our community 571 00:34:59,540 --> 00:35:06,420 character and design, and a whole lot of key actions shown at the bottom of your screen. 572 00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:09,660 Our Denton Enterprise Airport has also been busy. 573 00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:16,060 They have, they're primarily related to our fiscal and economic vitality as well as our 574 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:20,280 mobility because think planes are another mobility option. 575 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,460 Two things I wanted to highlight that they've been working on are our aviation exploring 576 00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:25,460 program. 577 00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:27,220 I learned about this from them. 578 00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:28,720 It's a really neat program. 579 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:32,300 It is for our community's youth ages 14 to 20. 580 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:37,600 If they are interested in the aviation industry, it allows them activities that they can participate 581 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,180 in flight simulations, airport tours, guest speakers, networking with people from the 582 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:47,680 aviation industry, and a lot of other workshops that give them some hands-on experience. 583 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,580 It also emphasizes leadership. 584 00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:52,520 They want to build leaders within our community. 585 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,020 As of today, 20 participants have enrolled. 586 00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:57,700 You can see the picture on your screen. 587 00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:01,500 According to Ryan at the airport, they had a standing room only at their informational 588 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,240 meetings this summer, so it's been really popular. 589 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,780 I do have a link there if you're interested. 590 00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:14,060 Our airport's done a lot of work in the last year reaching out not only to Denton ISD, 591 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:19,860 to our younger folks, but also coordinating with TWU in their aviation program. 592 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:21,620 They've done a lot of outreach. 593 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:24,220 They've also kicked off their master plan. 594 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:27,760 Just like in planning, we do comprehensive planning and area plans, the airport also 595 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,980 has a plan. 596 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:31,920 That kicked off in spring of this year. 597 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,380 It is going to include cargo and freight operations. 598 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:37,940 They are updated regularly. 599 00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:42,840 The last one was done in 2015, so it's time for them to update their airport master plan. 600 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,940 They're going to do things like review existing conditions, industry forecasts, and understand 601 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:55,300 that, what capacity building they need to do in order to implement the plan. 602 00:36:55,300 --> 00:37:00,940 Another thing that Cameron works on, Cameron has all of the fun projects, is Denton Revealed, 603 00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:02,460 and that's our preservation month. 604 00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:08,080 This is related to land use, our economic and fiscal vitality, as well as community 605 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,940 character and urban design. 606 00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:13,100 This is the month of May, every year. 607 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:17,260 This year, they celebrated their third annual, so they've been building on it for the last 608 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,260 three years. 609 00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:20,620 They had a really successful year. 610 00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:25,260 They had 277 participants that went on a variety of tours. 611 00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:28,640 There was a mid-century modern master's architecture. 612 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,340 They always seem to have a cemetery tour. 613 00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:34,420 This year, they were at the Cooper Creek Cemetery. 614 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:36,980 They also Clear Creek Walking Tour. 615 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:42,100 They had an Imagine the Possibilities Tour that was in coordination with our Main Street 616 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,100 program. 617 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,780 I don't know if you were aware of it, but it really was inviting industry professionals 618 00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:54,620 to look at opportunities that they could take advantage of within our downtown square and 619 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:59,700 the real estate opportunities there, and also a historic bar tour. 620 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:07,980 This really is to promote not only economic development, but to instill some pride and 621 00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:13,540 encourage that economic tourism, so really trying to get people excited about historic 622 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:19,060 preservation so we can designate more properties within the city of Denton. 623 00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:24,020 This also is consistent with a lot of key actions shown at the bottom of your screen. 624 00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:34,980 Danny's group has worked a lot with our Housing and Neighborhoods chapter, that element seven. 625 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:38,660 One thing I wanted to point out is a cross-care collaborative. 626 00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:43,420 This works with Denton County Behavioral Health Leadership Team, as well as the Denton County 627 00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:46,340 Housing and Homelessness Leadership Team. 628 00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:51,840 It is to serve those folks that have entered the justice system, and they're also experiencing 629 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,380 homelessness due to mental health or substance use needs. 630 00:38:57,380 --> 00:39:02,700 The intent of this is to make sure that there aren't duplication of efforts, that we're 631 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:10,980 all working together and doing our little piece of what's needed to be done to reduce 632 00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:14,700 the recidivism rate for people in crisis. 633 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:20,900 It's a good program, and they've worked on it this year. 634 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:26,980 Parks and our Sustainability Group has also worked on element five, and that's our parks, 635 00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:31,580 conservation, and environment, as well as infrastructure and utilities. 636 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:36,660 Sustainability Group added a new position, and that's our conservation program coordinator, 637 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:42,180 and I believe there are two of them within the city, and they have a lot on their plate. 638 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:47,300 They need to coordinate our water and energy conservation efforts, that water audit program 639 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:49,900 for irrigation systems. 640 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:54,180 They do a lot of public outreach and teaching for the sprinkler spruce-up, as well as water 641 00:39:54,180 --> 00:40:01,460 conservation, and they also assist with promoting that twice-weekly watering schedule to make 642 00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:06,260 sure that we conserve our water within the city of Denton. 643 00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:09,620 And then parks has done a lot of improvements. 644 00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:15,060 They've improved a lot of our existing parks, like our Carl Young Spray Ground. 645 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:20,740 There's a new facility there, as well as some new shade, new equipment and landscaping on 646 00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:22,980 a variety of parks. 647 00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:29,500 I've got a picture of Fred Moore Park here that shows the new pergola there at the American 648 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:30,660 Legion Hall. 649 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:34,740 They've also installed public art, and if you've been on this square recently, you've 650 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:41,180 seen all of the boxes now have artwork on them, and so I've got an example here. 651 00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:46,820 They look really great, and Parks has been working on that, as well as a mural program. 652 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:53,540 Here is a bridge that had an artist paint that mural on that bridge, so adding that 653 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:58,340 public art to our public spaces. 654 00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:03,980 We have a transportation group within Development Services who's worked on several items this 655 00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:07,380 year, mainly related to mobility. 656 00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:09,660 That is our Chapter 6. 657 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:13,560 We have kicked off a city-wide parking study. 658 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,780 We have a consultant, and that kicked off earlier this year. 659 00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:20,900 They're reviewing things like our current regulations, enforcement challenges, our transit 660 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:26,420 availability, parking supply, nationwide best practices, all of those items that the community 661 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:30,340 has indicated we need to study. 662 00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:33,900 And also, they are working on mobility plan updates. 663 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:40,620 You saw one earlier this year for adding that new roadway classification, the major collector, 664 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:45,300 but also adding the connection, that East Windsor connection. 665 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:50,500 You're going to see some more mobility plan updates in the upcoming months, so get ready, 666 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:54,620 because they are working on them. 667 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:59,620 And we also have some new facilities that help serve our fiscal and economic vitality, 668 00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:05,260 as well as community health, safety and services, our police department. 669 00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:06,680 That is complete on Hickory. 670 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,460 If you haven't driven by, you should go take a look. 671 00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,700 It's a very pretty building. 672 00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:16,780 And then we have a new fire station at the airport, and the planning department got to 673 00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:17,780 tour it. 674 00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:23,300 It's a really neat fire station, and it is equipped with an ARF, I believe is how they 675 00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:27,380 say it, and that is an airport rescue and firefighting truck. 676 00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:29,960 And it is able to respond to emergencies at the airport. 677 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:36,140 So it's a really great asset for the community, and they're really proud of it. 678 00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:38,880 And then infrastructure and utilities. 679 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,900 This maybe isn't the most exciting, but it is something that we in the planning department 680 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:48,540 and development services, as well as departments across the city, work with every day. 681 00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:51,760 And that is our Denton Design Criteria Manual. 682 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:59,320 This was a really big project that our engineering folks and other folks within the city undertook. 683 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,960 And this is related to our mobility, as well as our infrastructure and utilities. 684 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:09,100 In the past, if you were aware, we had criteria manuals, and we had one for transportation, 685 00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:15,020 and one for storm water, and one for waste water, and one for solid waste. 686 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:20,740 And what they did is they combined it all into one easy to use criteria manual. 687 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:23,980 So it is a companion to the Denton Development Code. 688 00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:28,880 It outlines those engineering standards and guidelines for not only development, but also 689 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,220 for any construction that we work on within the city of Denton. 690 00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:41,540 It also, I believe Sean worked on some DME updates to our DME standards, because make 691 00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:48,000 sure that all of our street lights comply with our dark skies requirements. 692 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:55,380 So looking forward, we are still working on the Invisio Dashboard. 693 00:43:55,380 --> 00:44:01,100 We are working on the architecture to make sure that those reports, when they are generated, 694 00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:05,860 really do give you good information about what actions have happened. 695 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:09,660 Also to make sure that we're linking those actions to other council priorities, like 696 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:11,880 our strategic plan. 697 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,940 And we anticipate that we're going to be finished. 698 00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:14,940 We're almost there. 699 00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:17,660 I think we're really close. 700 00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:23,780 As well as we're putting together a road show, as I mentioned, the comprehensive plan was 701 00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:27,020 adopted in 2022. 702 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:32,220 And we want to continue to educate the various city departments about the comprehensive plan, 703 00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:36,700 what those planning efforts were, what the key actions and timelines are, and give us 704 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,460 some advice on how to use the comprehensive plan. 705 00:44:39,460 --> 00:44:43,220 So we're going to have a series of meeting with a variety of departments in order to 706 00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:48,300 have one-on-one conversations about how we can help, how we can educate all of our partners 707 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:53,620 on the comprehensive plan and collaborate. 708 00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:58,420 So with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have. 709 00:44:58,420 --> 00:45:00,300 >> That's great, Julie. 710 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,300 Thank you very much. 711 00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:02,300 Questions? 712 00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:04,940 Did I just say I love the road show idea? 713 00:45:04,940 --> 00:45:05,940 Awesome. 714 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:06,940 >> I know. 715 00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:08,700 >> A really great idea. 716 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:15,460 Because, yeah, yeah, to keep the communication going and make sure, yeah, we're continuing 717 00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:18,420 to meet these goals is really great. 718 00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:23,660 I know with the short-term items you said 22% have been done, how are -- do you have 719 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:28,020 an idea of how the other short-term items are coming along? 720 00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:34,660 >> You know, I don't -- a lot of -- you know, what I struggled with on presenting this information 721 00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:41,740 is those key actions, as I said, there are grouping of a lot of specific other actions. 722 00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:48,660 So, you know, we're continuing to make sure that we tease out all of those and break apart 723 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:56,780 those key actions where we need to to make sure that we can complete all of those individual 724 00:45:56,780 --> 00:46:00,260 items that are the 578 within the code. 725 00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:05,020 So I don't have specifics on those other ones. 726 00:46:05,020 --> 00:46:09,100 But once again, with the road show, we're going to continue to talk to other departments, 727 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:14,580 see how their priorities, their goals are aligning, see how we can help them move more 728 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:16,380 of those items across the finish line. 729 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:17,940 >> Yeah, that's great. 730 00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:18,940 Wonderful. 731 00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:19,940 Commissioner Pruitt. 732 00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:22,580 >> Thank you, Chair. 733 00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:28,140 Thank you for allowing us to step back for a minute, you know, instead of being mired 734 00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:31,640 in plats and see what all great work you've done. 735 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,780 I think we're all aware of the small area planning, but there were several other details 736 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:38,220 that I learned in this, so thank you for that. 737 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:41,540 I look forward to the Invisio -- is that how you say it? 738 00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:45,580 >> I think it's -- I see a lot of nods, so yes. 739 00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:46,580 It looks like it. 740 00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:48,620 >> I look forward to that. 741 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:55,220 I don't know whether this is planned to be included in that or not. 742 00:46:55,220 --> 00:47:00,660 One of the reasons that I think I had looked forward to these yearly updates -- and I'm 743 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:09,100 not sure what Commissioner Smith's thoughts were -- was to get an idea of the by-right 744 00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:13,260 development activity that has happened in the city, as well as the applications that 745 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:14,260 we see. 746 00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:15,260 >> Okay. 747 00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:24,140 >> Because as we are looking at land use applications, it's very helpful to know whether current 748 00:47:24,140 --> 00:47:32,340 market solutions within the existing zoning are achieving our goals for housing production 749 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:37,980 or that sort of thing, or whether they are restricted and that sort of thing. 750 00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:38,980 Does that make sense? 751 00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:39,980 >> Absolutely, yes. 752 00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:45,060 >> So if that's planned in Invisio, I don't think we need anything extra. 753 00:47:45,060 --> 00:47:50,540 If there's some reason it won't, because that's more focused on goals and actions, I look 754 00:47:50,540 --> 00:47:54,580 forward to seeing that information somewhere. 755 00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:55,580 Thank you. 756 00:47:55,580 --> 00:47:58,780 >> Anybody else? 757 00:47:58,780 --> 00:47:59,780 >> Really awesome, Julie. 758 00:47:59,780 --> 00:48:00,780 >> Thank you. 759 00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:01,780 >> Great presentation. 760 00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:04,140 So much wonderful information that you gave us. 761 00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:11,460 And obviously shows how busy all of you all have been, which is really great. 762 00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:13,940 So wonderful update to get. 763 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:14,940 >> Thank you. 764 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:15,940 All right. 765 00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:16,940 Bye. 766 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:17,940 >> Thanks. 767 00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:18,940 Okay. 768 00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:20,300 That is the last thing on our work session. 769 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:32,620 So we'll go ahead and adjourn at 553 and reconvene in council chambers at 630. 770 00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:35,420 >> Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting 771 00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:39,580 for Wednesday, August 28th, 2024. 772 00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:43,420 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 630 p.m. 773 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:48,020 Let the record show that Commissioners Thaggard and Villarreal are absent today. 774 00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:52,420 First item on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas flags. 775 00:48:52,420 --> 00:49:02,020 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic 776 00:49:02,020 --> 00:49:11,300 for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for 777 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:12,300 all. 778 00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:22,660 One state, one country, Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. 779 00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:27,220 >> First item of action for us is the approval of our minutes for August 14th. 780 00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:33,940 I'll go ahead and move approval of that. 781 00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:34,940 Commissioner Pedrone? 782 00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:35,940 >> I second. 783 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:36,940 >> Okay. 784 00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:40,380 We've got a first and a second to approve the minutes from August 14th. 785 00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:41,380 Any discussion? 786 00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:42,380 Okay. 787 00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:49,300 Let's go ahead and vote, please. 788 00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:52,060 That motion carries 4-0. 789 00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:59,100 That brings us to our items for individual consideration, the first one being 3A FP 240025. 790 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:02,060 Mia is here for presentation. 791 00:50:02,060 --> 00:50:03,060 Hi. 792 00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:09,740 >> Good evening, Chair, members of the Commission, Mia Hines, Senior Planner. 793 00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:15,540 This item is a final plaque for a property just over 18 acres located at the northwest 794 00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:18,700 corner of East University Drive and Old North Road. 795 00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,340 At this time, they are not meeting all of our criteria for approval, so staff is recommending 796 00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:23,340 the denial. 797 00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:27,620 However, we have no objection to the requested extension, which could be granted to a date 798 00:50:27,620 --> 00:50:30,660 certain of September 25th, 2024. 799 00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:32,780 At this time, I'll take any questions you have. 800 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:33,780 >> Thank you, Mia. 801 00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:39,540 If you have any questions, thank you so much. 802 00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:40,540 Commissioner Britt? 803 00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:45,540 >> I'll move approval to the applicant -- of the applicant requested extension to a date 804 00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:47,580 certain of September 25th, 2024. 805 00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:48,580 >> Okay. 806 00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:49,580 Commissioner Cole? 807 00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:50,580 >> Second. 808 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:51,580 >> Okay. 809 00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,060 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of September 810 00:50:54,060 --> 00:50:56,940 25th, 2024. 811 00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:57,940 Any discussion? 812 00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:58,940 Okay. 813 00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:05,820 Let's vote, please. 814 00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:07,980 That motion carries 4-0. 815 00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:10,740 That'll take us to 3-B, FP240030. 816 00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:15,140 Mia here again for presentation. 817 00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:19,620 >> Good evening again, Chair, members of the commission. 818 00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:24,460 This item is a final plat in the -- located in City's ETJ for a property that's approximately 819 00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:26,180 for 5.6 acres. 820 00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:32,900 Specifically, it's located at the northeast corner of FM 1173 and Motch Branch Road and 821 00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:38,100 does come with some right-of-way dedication to the county for the realignment of Motch 822 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,100 Branch Road also. 823 00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:43,540 At this time, the plat itself is not ready -- does not meet all of our criteria for approval, 824 00:51:43,540 --> 00:51:45,620 so we are recommending denial. 825 00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:50,180 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to September 25th, 2024. 826 00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:52,020 That'll take any questions. 827 00:51:52,020 --> 00:51:53,020 >> Thank you, Mia. 828 00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:54,020 Questions? 829 00:51:54,020 --> 00:51:55,020 Thank you. 830 00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:56,020 Commissioner Pruitt? 831 00:51:56,020 --> 00:52:03,800 >> I move approval of the applicant requested extension to September 25th, 2024. 832 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,800 >> Thank you. 833 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,800 Commissioner Pedron. 834 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,800 >> I second. 835 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,800 >> Okay. 836 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,580 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of September 837 00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:13,180 25th, 2024. 838 00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:14,180 Any discussion? 839 00:52:14,180 --> 00:52:15,180 Okay. 840 00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:22,380 Let's vote, please. 841 00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:24,440 That motion will carry 4-0. 842 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,920 That will take us to our public hearings this evening. 843 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:40,500 Items 4A, AESA 230002 and 4B, S220010 have been postponed by the applicant, so we will 844 00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:45,560 not be taking action on either of those items today. 845 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,980 Should they come forward, that will be re-noticed to the public. 846 00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:55,620 Next item is 4C, HL240002. 847 00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:56,620 Cameron's here for presentation. 848 00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,420 I'll go ahead and open the public hearing. 849 00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:00,540 >> Thank you, Chair and Commission. 850 00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:03,900 Cameron Robertson, Historic Preservation Officer. 851 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,460 There we go. 852 00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:17,600 So, as stated, this is for a historic landmark designation of 1526 Willowwood Street. 853 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,440 It is located on the north side of Willowwood Street between Kendolph Drive and McCormick 854 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,440 Street. 855 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,260 The date is circa 1978. 856 00:53:24,260 --> 00:53:29,580 I did want to state when it comes to a historic landmark designation, the property does not 857 00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:31,700 have to be 50 years or older. 858 00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:37,100 That is only in relation to a historic district and a conservation district. 859 00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:42,820 So a little bit of the building's history, it was originally constructed for Mr. James 860 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:44,380 J. and Judith H. Feldman. 861 00:53:44,380 --> 00:53:47,260 It is in that contemporary style. 862 00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:52,140 The architects were based out of Houston, Texas, otherwise known as Anderson and Wilson. 863 00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:58,580 The contractor was Neil J. Adams and it has had five owners since 1978. 864 00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:01,260 So the request is for that historic landmark designation. 865 00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:05,460 It's located within the Denia neighborhood on that R3 zoning. 866 00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:11,420 It is a single-family residence on approximately 1.7 acres. 867 00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:15,580 So just going to run you through some of the existing conditions of the structure itself. 868 00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:21,700 This is that front south facade, as well as that rear north facade, as well as the east 869 00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:26,020 facade and the west facade. 870 00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:30,740 This is a survey of the property. 871 00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:37,160 Staff's analysis was based off section 2.9.4(b) of the Denton Development Code. 872 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:42,700 In terms of the structure itself, it does meet the following criteria 1, 5, and 11, 873 00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,500 which I'm going to go into more detail now. 874 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,740 So approval criteria 1. 875 00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:52,700 So during the late 20th century, that live-work style was really starting to take off and 876 00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:59,860 Houston was kind of the leader of that movement in Texas, really beginning in the 1950s. 877 00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:03,980 Anderson Wilson architects were considered the true pioneers of that movement and are 878 00:55:03,980 --> 00:55:06,860 featured prominently throughout the Houston area. 879 00:55:06,860 --> 00:55:14,020 In 1526 Willowood Street, the Feldmans did hire Anderson Wilson to come up from Houston 880 00:55:14,020 --> 00:55:19,820 and construct their home, really looking to embellish on that live-work style. 881 00:55:19,820 --> 00:55:25,320 As part of this home, they had a artist studio or two artist studios constructed, one which 882 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:33,300 was specifically configured for a photographer's darkroom and the other a pottery studio. 883 00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:34,940 Approval criteria 5. 884 00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:38,020 So as I stated previously, it's that contemporary style. 885 00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:43,580 To many people in Denton, this is kind of known as the birdhouse due to that front enclosed 886 00:55:43,580 --> 00:55:45,580 atrium. 887 00:55:45,580 --> 00:55:50,020 It does borrow some of that structural design from the international style which came forward 888 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:56,820 in the 1920s, but it is an asymmetrical structure with unordinated stucco surfaces and it's 889 00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:00,980 really light on those kind of textures and it's very open. 890 00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:05,280 Really for these kind of structures, the focus was in that interior and how the interior 891 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,820 functioned and how it also kind of integrated into the outdoor views and use. 892 00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:16,460 As I say previously, they saw a design of this in Southern Living Magazine. 893 00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:21,580 The owners of Feldman saw it in 1972, Southern Living Magazine, and they were infatuated 894 00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:26,540 with it and so they hired Anderson Wilson architects to come up and expand on that residential 895 00:56:26,540 --> 00:56:33,540 design and that courtyard which is a huge feature to the home is 20 foot, 25 foot high 896 00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:40,580 by 60 foot wide and originally as part of the plans, it was supposed to have a swimming 897 00:56:40,580 --> 00:56:45,060 pool so that's why it's a little bit elevated, but currently it is a garden. 898 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,900 They never ended up putting the pool in, but it is a garden and it does have box turtles 899 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:55,700 of which 33 were originally in there and now there are two remaining. 900 00:56:55,700 --> 00:57:03,140 In approval criteria 11, there are a lot of personnel who have lived in the home and that 901 00:57:03,140 --> 00:57:08,340 have great importance to the City of Denton and our larger Denton County community. 902 00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:09,460 The first is the Feldman family. 903 00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:12,100 They are the original owners and the builders. 904 00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:16,020 They contributed greatly to the Jewish community in Denton as well as Denton County. 905 00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:21,940 They were some of the founding members of congregation Kol Ami which is now located 906 00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:25,700 in, why am I blinking? 907 00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:29,140 It's located outside the City of Denton, but it had its roots in the University of North 908 00:57:29,140 --> 00:57:30,340 Texas campus. 909 00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:34,220 Dr. Gilda Garcia, she was the fourth owner of this property. 910 00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:37,160 She contributed greatly to the University of North Texas. 911 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,780 She served as both the chief diversity officer as well as the vice president of the university 912 00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:45,540 and then the current owners who are the fifth property owners, Jennifer Lane and Dr. James 913 00:57:45,540 --> 00:57:50,180 Carr, they not only contributed greatly to University of North Texas, but also nationally 914 00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:53,260 and internationally. 915 00:57:53,260 --> 00:57:58,180 Jennifer Lane works for the University of North Texas College of Music. 916 00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:02,340 They're also both recorded musicians and singers and teachers. 917 00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:08,540 So staff's analysis consisted of looking at the 2019 historic preservation plan and the 918 00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:14,100 Denton 2040 comprehensive plan of which it meets goal number one, policy 1.3, as well 919 00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:19,080 as goal, community, character, dash two. 920 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,240 Historic outreach was done. 921 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:26,020 There was a newspaper website and property signed postings, mailed notices of 200 feet 922 00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:30,020 to 19 residents and then 500 courtesy notices mailed out. 923 00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:35,060 There were no responses in opposition, favor or neutral. 924 00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:39,460 So staff is recommending approval of the request for the historic landmark designation of the 925 00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:45,860 property at 1526 Willowwood as it does meet our Denton development code criteria for historic 926 00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:50,140 landmark designation, as well as our Denton 2040 comprehensive plan and our 2019 historic 927 00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:51,580 preservation plan. 928 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:56,140 The Historic Landmark Commission did recommend approval 50 and the next step is to go to 929 00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:59,020 public hearing at city council on September 17th. 930 00:58:59,020 --> 00:59:04,180 And I can stand for any questions and we also have the applicants as well if you have any 931 00:59:04,180 --> 00:59:05,180 questions for them. 932 00:59:05,180 --> 00:59:08,220 Thank you very much, Cameron. 933 00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:09,780 Questions for Cameron? 934 00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:10,780 Okay. 935 00:59:10,780 --> 00:59:15,780 I don't have any cards in front of me, but is there anyone wishing to speak on this item? 936 00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:22,260 Hi there, if you'll state your name, your time will begin. 937 00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:26,700 Yes, my name is Charles Lee. 938 00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,420 I'm against this. 939 00:59:29,420 --> 00:59:34,140 This is not an indictment on property owners, personally themselves. 940 00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:39,820 This is more of an indictment on the system itself because what it is, these politicians, 941 00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:45,460 they're running up the tax bill so high that people can't afford their taxes and they're 942 00:59:45,460 --> 00:59:50,580 looking for any loophole they can get to try to get out of taxes because you fail to state 943 00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:55,860 that there is a tax benefit for the property owners and I really don't believe this is 944 00:59:55,860 --> 00:59:58,480 any kind of historical significance. 945 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,620 People are just trying to find the best way to get out of paying property taxes and this 946 01:00:03,620 --> 01:00:09,220 whole type of system is ripe for corruption because what it is, the people want to know 947 01:00:09,220 --> 01:00:13,900 and the people that are well connected politically, they're going to apply for this type of benefit 948 01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:17,820 so they can know how they can reduce their taxes and all this is going to do is shift 949 01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:22,780 tax to tax burden to people who don't know this or who don't get this benefit and that's 950 01:00:22,780 --> 01:00:26,740 going to raise their taxes up and it's going to create more of a division in our society 951 01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:31,940 than it already is and like I said on repeat again, this is not a personal indictment on 952 01:00:31,940 --> 01:00:32,940 the property owners. 953 01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:37,540 I understand what they're trying to do, but what I'm doing is more of an indictment on 954 01:00:37,540 --> 01:00:42,340 the system and just for that reason, what it is, politicians need to stop spending so 955 01:00:42,340 --> 01:00:46,860 much of the community's money so the property taxes don't get so high, so we don't have 956 01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:49,760 to resort to this type of system and this type of corruption. 957 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,720 Thank you very much. 958 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,980 Thank you. 959 01:00:53,980 --> 01:00:56,780 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 960 01:00:56,780 --> 01:00:57,780 Sure. 961 01:00:57,780 --> 01:01:15,420 I'm here for any questions too, but I'll just mention that that is definitely not a motivation. 962 01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:17,260 We already have the freeze being over 65. 963 01:01:17,260 --> 01:01:19,180 Go ahead and say your name, Jennifer. 964 01:01:19,180 --> 01:01:22,900 Jennifer Lane, 1526 Willowood Street. 965 01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:26,220 What the gentleman just said is not a motivation because we already have the freeze at 65. 966 01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:27,940 It won't affect our property taxes. 967 01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:32,140 What it will do is protect the property and if there are any questions about that, I'm 968 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:34,500 happy to answer them. 969 01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:35,500 Thank you. 970 01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:38,380 Any questions for our property owner? 971 01:01:38,380 --> 01:01:41,380 It will not lower our property taxes, just so you know. 972 01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:44,580 Thank you very much. 973 01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:47,460 Anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 974 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:49,140 Okay. 975 01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:55,860 I am going to go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion 976 01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:56,860 or motion. 977 01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:57,860 Commissioner Cole? 978 01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:58,860 I move to approve. 979 01:01:58,860 --> 01:01:59,860 Okay. 980 01:01:59,860 --> 01:02:00,860 Commissioner Paduram? 981 01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:01,860 I second. 982 01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:02,860 Okay. 983 01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:09,500 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion. 984 01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:16,300 I just want to say, I am very happy that we have this in town. 985 01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:21,020 This is an extremely special and beautiful property. 986 01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:25,540 If you have not seen it, I have been lucky enough to see it. 987 01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:33,780 It is with great pleasure to support the request before us. 988 01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,900 Any other discussion? 989 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:44,900 Let's go ahead and vote, please. 990 01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:49,220 That motion carries 4-0. 991 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:55,180 Next item of public hearing is 4-D, HL240003. 992 01:02:55,180 --> 01:03:00,020 I will go ahead and open that public hearing, and here is Cameron for presentation. 993 01:03:00,020 --> 01:03:02,460 Thank you, Chair. 994 01:03:02,460 --> 01:03:09,380 Jumping right in, the address is 1900 Westridge Street. 995 01:03:09,380 --> 01:03:13,020 It's north side of Westridge Street, just east of Highland Park Road. 996 01:03:13,020 --> 01:03:16,380 The construction date is 1970. 997 01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:22,580 Some of the building's history, it was originally constructed for Horace R. and Yulene W. Brock. 998 01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:25,860 The architectural style, similar to the first one, was contemporary style. 999 01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:28,380 The architects are Mount Miller Architects. 1000 01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:34,900 The contractor is Burt Moore, and it's had three owners since 1970. 1001 01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:38,260 Today's request is for the historic landmark designation. 1002 01:03:38,260 --> 01:03:44,820 Similar to the previous designation request, it is located in the Denia neighborhood, also 1003 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:45,820 zoned R3. 1004 01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:52,740 It is a single-family residence on approximately 0.6 acres. 1005 01:03:52,740 --> 01:03:59,060 This is the front south facade of the structure, as well as that east facade. 1006 01:03:59,060 --> 01:04:03,980 Then we have the rear north and west facades of the structure. 1007 01:04:03,980 --> 01:04:07,620 This is the survey for the property. 1008 01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:14,260 Staff's analysis, similar to the first, did look at section 2.9.4(b), of which 1900 Westridge 1009 01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:20,700 Street meets the following criteria 4 and criteria 11, which I'll jump into now. 1010 01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:25,700 Approval criteria 4, the property was designed by Mount Miller Architects, which is pretty 1011 01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:32,480 much a very well-known architect group here in Denton, which stands for Tom P. Miller 1012 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,700 and Isabelle Mount. 1013 01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:39,960 They served on many boards and civic organizations here in Denton, and they helped really honestly 1014 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,740 design that built fabric of Denton. 1015 01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:49,100 Over 45 years, they were responsible for designing and remodeling close to 300 residents, public 1016 01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,700 and commercial buildings in Denton and in nearby towns. 1017 01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:57,740 Some of the former or current Mount Miller examples that you all know today is that former 1018 01:04:57,740 --> 01:05:04,180 Denton Firehouse Station number 4, which is near Kings Row, and then 531 North Elm Street 1019 01:05:04,180 --> 01:05:13,660 where Simona Massage or Therapist is located, but it was constructed by Burt Moore also. 1020 01:05:13,660 --> 01:05:15,100 You may have heard the name. 1021 01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:21,420 He was known for Dencrete, which he manufactured his own concrete masonry units, and there 1022 01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:28,560 are a bunch of different homes in Denton that also utilized his Dencrete for their construction. 1023 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:33,900 Looking at approval criteria 11, Horace and Yulene Brock, the original owners, also similar 1024 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:35,880 ... Probably you've heard their name before. 1025 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,660 They also had an important role in proving that social, economic, ethnic, and historical 1026 01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:43,860 heritage in the city of Denton and in Texas. 1027 01:05:43,860 --> 01:05:48,500 They also served on many boards and commissions, including non-profit organizations. 1028 01:05:48,500 --> 01:05:53,180 Yulene had a tenure with the city of Denton as a mayor, and she also helped found the 1029 01:05:53,180 --> 01:05:57,760 Denton Christian Women's Interracial Fellowship, and then Horace had a long career with the 1030 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,720 University of North Texas. 1031 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:05,220 He served as the UNT Department Chair, the Dean of College and Business Administration, 1032 01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:09,460 as well as the Director of Chief Executive's Roundtable. 1033 01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:14,860 Staff's analysis did look at the 2019 Historic Preservation Plan and the Denton 2040 Comprehensive 1034 01:06:14,860 --> 01:06:18,820 Plan, of which it is consistent. 1035 01:06:18,820 --> 01:06:24,860 In addition, public outreach was done for newspaper website signage, property signage, 1036 01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:31,820 as well as mail notices, we did receive two responses in favor of the designation, one 1037 01:06:31,820 --> 01:06:36,060 within the 200 foot and one within that 500 foot buffer. 1038 01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:41,180 Staff is recommending approval of the request for the designation located at 1900 West Ridge 1039 01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:47,000 Street, as it does meet the Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan and that 2019 Historic Preservation Plan, 1040 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,060 as well as our section 2.9.4(b) of the Denton Development Code. 1041 01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:56,620 The landmark commission also recommended approval 50, and the next public hearing is at City 1042 01:06:56,620 --> 01:07:01,100 Council on September 17th, and I can stand for any questions, and the applicant is here 1043 01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:02,860 as well if you have any questions. 1044 01:07:02,860 --> 01:07:04,260 Thank you. 1045 01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:06,060 Questions for Cameron? 1046 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,500 Okay. 1047 01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:08,500 Thank you. 1048 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:09,500 This is a public hearing. 1049 01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:13,160 I don't have any cards in front of me, but if you'd like to speak on this item, please 1050 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:14,160 come up. 1051 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,160 Hi. 1052 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,160 How are you doing? 1053 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,160 Yes, my name is Charles Lagan. 1054 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:23,440 I just want to say, yeah, I'm against this proposal, too, for the same reasons I said 1055 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,880 before, and I'm going to say it again, that was a flat out lie. 1056 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,900 There is a tax benefit for this. 1057 01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:35,300 I heard it in the work session, you get 50%, it's attached onto the property, will necessarily 1058 01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:39,700 increase the value of the property, too, just because of that tax exemption, that will necessarily 1059 01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:43,820 go to the current owner, and if they sell the property, they'll receive that benefit. 1060 01:07:43,820 --> 01:07:47,780 So anybody who said that there's no benefit to the owner for this is a flat out lie. 1061 01:07:47,780 --> 01:07:52,820 And plus, if they will this to somebody in their family, they'll receive that benefit, 1062 01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,260 too, because it's attached to the property. 1063 01:07:55,260 --> 01:08:00,940 And in fact, there's no historical significance here, because so what, so the guy was a mayor 1064 01:08:00,940 --> 01:08:03,180 that owned the property, so what does that mean? 1065 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:08,500 So every mayor in the town's property, whoever that lived there, is going to see a tax exemption 1066 01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:09,500 now. 1067 01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:13,780 Every council member, any other person, this just sounds like a bunch of aristocratic living 1068 01:08:13,780 --> 01:08:19,700 liberals that want to give themselves special benefits on the expense of everybody else 1069 01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:20,700 in the community. 1070 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:25,140 To say anything different is just a flat out lie, and it really is. 1071 01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:26,860 It's absolutely ridiculous at this point. 1072 01:08:26,860 --> 01:08:27,860 This should be denied. 1073 01:08:27,860 --> 01:08:34,540 This is the type of corruption that's ruining this nation, and it needs to go away immediately. 1074 01:08:34,540 --> 01:08:37,220 Thank you. 1075 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:39,540 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 1076 01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:43,420 I do not have any cards in front of me, but you are welcome to speak on this item if you 1077 01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:44,420 would like. 1078 01:08:44,420 --> 01:08:45,420 Okay. 1079 01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:54,780 I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for a motion or discussion. 1080 01:08:54,780 --> 01:08:58,700 I will go ahead and move approval of this request, Commissioner Cole. 1081 01:08:58,700 --> 01:08:59,700 Second. 1082 01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:00,700 Okay. 1083 01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:02,500 We've got a first and a second for approval. 1084 01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:05,020 Any discussion? 1085 01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:11,700 I'll just say great presentation on both accounts, Cameron, showing us this historical significance, 1086 01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:14,020 why these properties should be protected. 1087 01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:16,780 To me, every Mount Miller in our town should be protected. 1088 01:09:16,780 --> 01:09:27,180 Just tremendous significant historical story for our city, for sure. 1089 01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:28,180 Any other discussion? 1090 01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:29,180 Okay. 1091 01:09:29,180 --> 01:09:36,700 Let's go ahead and vote, please. 1092 01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:39,780 That motion carries 4-0. 1093 01:09:39,780 --> 01:09:47,780 That will take us to our final public hearing this evening, and that is 4EDCA240010. 1094 01:09:47,780 --> 01:09:50,420 I will go ahead and open the public hearing. 1095 01:09:50,420 --> 01:09:56,180 Leigh Ann is here for presentation. 1096 01:09:56,180 --> 01:10:01,460 Good evening, Commission. 1097 01:10:01,460 --> 01:10:06,220 Leigh Atkinson, Housing Programs Coordinator with the Community Services Team, here today 1098 01:10:06,220 --> 01:10:12,100 to talk about the proposed amendment to the Debt and Development Code 212, Affordability 1099 01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,100 Incentives. 1100 01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:17,340 In summary, as stated, this is a proposal to update the Debt and Development Code to 1101 01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:21,540 include 212 affordability incentive procedures. 1102 01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:25,660 This amendment would introduce nine different development incentives, each of which offers 1103 01:10:25,660 --> 01:10:29,380 slight deviation from the standard DDC requirements. 1104 01:10:29,380 --> 01:10:35,340 Any residential development would have the option to utilize one or more of these incentives 1105 01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:42,020 in exchange for including affordability within the development. 1106 01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:45,860 Staff Rules of the Day is presented in alignment with a few different planning documents. 1107 01:10:45,860 --> 01:10:50,340 First and foremost, the Affordable Housing Strategic Toolkit, of which this is Activity 1108 01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:51,340 3B. 1109 01:10:51,340 --> 01:10:55,260 Additionally, it's aligned with City Council's priority to foster economic opportunity and 1110 01:10:55,260 --> 01:11:01,900 affordability, as well as Policy 3.2 in the Economic Development Strategic Plan and Policy 1111 01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:07,860 7.2 from the 2040 plan. 1112 01:11:07,860 --> 01:11:09,380 These are the nine incentives. 1113 01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:15,420 It would include a 20% deviation from minimum yard and setback requirements, maximum building 1114 01:11:15,420 --> 01:11:20,580 coverage, minimum allot width, depth and area, maximum building height, and minimum unit 1115 01:11:20,580 --> 01:11:26,180 size, as well as a 10-point reduction from the landscaping area point system, and a parking 1116 01:11:26,180 --> 01:11:33,280 reduction down to one spot per affordable dwelling unit. 1117 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,740 In exchange, that residential development would be committed to setting aside some of 1118 01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:43,540 their homes for low-income households at rates affordable to that household. 1119 01:11:43,540 --> 01:11:47,720 That would start at three incentives or fewer were utilized. 1120 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:54,520 That would kick in 20% of the units being held as affordable, broken down over three 1121 01:11:54,520 --> 01:12:00,300 different income categories, extremely low-income, very low-income, and low to moderate income. 1122 01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:06,120 The more incentives are used, that affordability scales up to a maximum of 65% of the homes 1123 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,620 dedicated to affordability. 1124 01:12:07,620 --> 01:12:12,420 No matter how many incentives are used, the commitment would be to 30 years of affordability 1125 01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:18,140 in those homes. 1126 01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:22,180 To access these incentives, during the normal development process, a developer would submit 1127 01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:25,340 a request for affordability incentives. 1128 01:12:25,340 --> 01:12:29,560 Both development services and community services would review and approve or deny that request 1129 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,580 based on the written standards. 1130 01:12:31,580 --> 01:12:35,860 That development would then go through the typical development review process with these 1131 01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:38,220 incentives being considered. 1132 01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:42,400 Prior to building permits being issued, both the developer and the city will sign an affordability 1133 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:48,660 incentives program agreement committing both the city and the developer to those terms, 1134 01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:55,660 providing for standards in regards to monitoring, as well as providing for actions the city 1135 01:12:55,660 --> 01:12:57,700 may take if the terms are not honored. 1136 01:12:57,700 --> 01:13:02,260 It'll be the responsibility of the community services department to monitor that development 1137 01:13:02,260 --> 01:13:12,040 and ensure it's actually being leased or sold at affordable rates for the full 30 years. 1138 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,380 This is an example of a real development in Denton. 1139 01:13:14,380 --> 01:13:19,380 This is the Sherman Crossing multifamily development, like every development of its type, it was 1140 01:13:19,380 --> 01:13:22,100 beholden to the landscaping area point system. 1141 01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:27,820 They chose to meet those requirements by selecting two different elements, each from section 1142 01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:30,240 A, B, and C respectively. 1143 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,780 If they were to utilize the landscaping incentive, they could have removed their obligation to 1144 01:13:34,780 --> 01:13:37,940 do just two of those six elements. 1145 01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:43,760 For example, that could have been the parking island every 10 spaces or the size requirement 1146 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,020 for the trees that were planted at time of planting. 1147 01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:51,280 This would have saved the development significant funds potentially. 1148 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:57,160 In exchange, they would need to dedicate 20% of their homes as affordable, leasing to low 1149 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,140 income households at rates affordable to them. 1150 01:14:00,140 --> 01:14:05,140 For this development, there were 294 total units, so 59 of those units would need to 1151 01:14:05,140 --> 01:14:09,060 be affordable. 1152 01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:12,080 The incentive package also applies to single family developments. 1153 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:19,080 This is the Stella Hills development, scaled down to look at just one block specifically. 1154 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:25,600 In this scenario, a lot width reduction could be used as an incentive. 1155 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,420 The zoning underlaying here requires a 50 foot minimum lot width. 1156 01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:35,100 If they took a 10 foot reduction, those lots could be a minimum of 40 feet wide each. 1157 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:40,460 We can see first illustrated here, those existing lots with those lot lines, as they are highlighted 1158 01:14:40,460 --> 01:14:45,460 in yellow, the potential 10 foot reductions, and that's 16 lots in total. 1159 01:14:45,460 --> 01:14:49,820 Then beside, a sort of revisioning of what that lot could look like in a 40 foot wide 1160 01:14:49,820 --> 01:14:55,100 lot scenario, where they could fit 20 lots on that same block. 1161 01:14:55,100 --> 01:15:00,060 This could significantly increase the number of homes that could be included in that overall 1162 01:15:00,060 --> 01:15:03,940 development if applied across the board. 1163 01:15:03,940 --> 01:15:07,420 In this scenario, 20% of those homes would need to be affordable. 1164 01:15:07,420 --> 01:15:11,580 This development, as it was finished, was 316 homes. 1165 01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:16,460 In this scenario, 63 homes would need to be sold to low income households at prices that 1166 01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:21,500 were affordable to them. 1167 01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:24,980 Staff did conduct public engagement regarding this amendment. 1168 01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:29,420 There was a town hall as well as an online feedback form open to both developers and 1169 01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:30,720 to residents. 1170 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,520 The primary feedback that staff received from both residents and developers was an interest 1171 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:39,380 in seeing stronger incentives that would increase developer buy in. 1172 01:15:39,380 --> 01:15:45,660 This is why, at the work session last time, the commission directed to start that process 1173 01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:52,140 at three incentives, prior to going increased affordability, as well as to standardize to 1174 01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:56,240 30 years of affordability across the board. 1175 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,460 If this is approved over time, staff will continually evaluate the effectiveness of 1176 01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:03,580 the program, as well as evaluate whether there are additional opportunities to add further 1177 01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:09,020 incentives to the package. 1178 01:16:09,020 --> 01:16:10,840 As of today, there are three options. 1179 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,100 The first is to recommend approval, in which case this item would proceed to public hearing 1180 01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,660 with City Council with a projected date of October 15th. 1181 01:16:18,660 --> 01:16:22,920 The second option is to recommend denial, and the third is to postpone the item. 1182 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:23,920 That's all for me. 1183 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:24,920 Thank you very much. 1184 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,920 Thank you. 1185 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:26,920 I believe we've got a question. 1186 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,920 Commissioner Pruitt? 1187 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,920 Thank you, Chair. 1188 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:34,540 I want to go quick so that everybody in the room and online is aware. 1189 01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:42,380 Would this program involve the city making monetary payments to anyone, or is it purely 1190 01:16:42,380 --> 01:16:49,660 just relaxing the requirements that we normally put in, which make housing more expensive, 1191 01:16:49,660 --> 01:16:53,660 in order to make sure that we can get some units that are income restricted? 1192 01:16:53,660 --> 01:16:54,660 That's correct. 1193 01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:57,700 This would only be about requirements in the DDC. 1194 01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:00,140 There would be no monetary payments associated with this program. 1195 01:17:00,140 --> 01:17:01,140 Thank you. 1196 01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:02,940 Thank you, Commissioner Pruitt. 1197 01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:06,120 Anything else for Lyle? 1198 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,460 Thank you very much. 1199 01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:08,460 This is a public hearing. 1200 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:12,460 I do not have any cards in front of me at this time, but if there's anyone wishing to 1201 01:17:12,460 --> 01:17:14,780 speak, please do so. 1202 01:17:14,780 --> 01:17:16,300 Mr. Lee? 1203 01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:22,500 Yes, my name is Charles Lee, and I just want to say this is a very bad plan. 1204 01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,060 This is just nothing but socialism. 1205 01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:28,340 What we're trying to do is just increasing the burden on certain people, and trying to 1206 01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:31,540 give more people more of a free ride. 1207 01:17:31,540 --> 01:17:33,540 All it does is create more division in the community. 1208 01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:37,980 You're going to have a lot of people compete off, because they're going to have to pay 1209 01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:42,300 more for their houses, and other people are going to pay less, and then certain people 1210 01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:45,780 are going to have to pay more property taxes, because their houses are going up, and other 1211 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:52,020 people are going to have to pay less, and then you have the certain upper class elite. 1212 01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:55,700 They come up with all these tax sleep loopholes, so they can get out from under, and they don't 1213 01:17:55,700 --> 01:17:56,700 have to pay anything. 1214 01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:01,940 But if they don't care, as long as they divide the community up, and they remain in power, 1215 01:18:01,940 --> 01:18:05,860 that's all they really care about, so they can keep control over the population, and 1216 01:18:05,860 --> 01:18:06,860 keep the people divided. 1217 01:18:06,860 --> 01:18:13,060 This is a very bad plan, and this is all this does, is just continue that same type of thinking, 1218 01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:15,860 and this is not good at all. 1219 01:18:15,860 --> 01:18:21,020 I'm against it, and I hope, wish people would actually come to realize what's really going 1220 01:18:21,020 --> 01:18:29,860 on here, and go back to actual American principles, and not all this international socialism stuff 1221 01:18:29,860 --> 01:18:30,860 they're trying to push. 1222 01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:32,860 Have a nice day. 1223 01:18:32,860 --> 01:18:34,860 Commissioner Perrett. 1224 01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:36,860 Charles, a question for you. 1225 01:18:36,860 --> 01:18:39,460 We've got a question for you this week. 1226 01:18:39,460 --> 01:18:43,180 Thank you for coming out and sharing your point of view. 1227 01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:47,020 Being that you're not in favor of this, would you be in favor of the opposite, which would 1228 01:18:47,020 --> 01:18:51,540 be increasing the requirements that we have on new housing, so that we make it more expensive 1229 01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:52,540 to build homes? 1230 01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:59,400 No, I'm saying that we need to really stop ... The more you spend on a government, nothing 1231 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,400 is free. 1232 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,620 People have to work for this money, and people have to pay for government. 1233 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:08,420 We have to pay for everything, and people have to work for this money. 1234 01:19:08,420 --> 01:19:12,020 This is not monopoly money we're dealing with. 1235 01:19:12,020 --> 01:19:17,220 Middle class people, they're the people that pay the majority of the taxes in this country. 1236 01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:18,220 It's not the rich. 1237 01:19:18,220 --> 01:19:19,220 It's not the poor. 1238 01:19:19,220 --> 01:19:21,500 It's middle class working families. 1239 01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:24,620 Every time you spend this money, with these ideas we're going to give to this, and give 1240 01:19:24,620 --> 01:19:28,340 to that, and do this and that, you're putting a burden on people that don't receive anything 1241 01:19:28,340 --> 01:19:30,060 or any kind of benefit. 1242 01:19:30,060 --> 01:19:35,540 The middle class is shrinking in this country, and this is a real recipe for revolution. 1243 01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:41,420 We need to go back to conservative principles, where everything is baseline brass tax, where 1244 01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:44,900 we all live within our means. 1245 01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:49,780 Thank you. 1246 01:19:49,780 --> 01:19:52,020 This is a public hearing. 1247 01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:53,020 Someone else wishing to meet? 1248 01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:54,020 Yep. 1249 01:19:54,020 --> 01:19:55,020 If you'll state your name, your time will begin. 1250 01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:56,020 Hi. 1251 01:19:56,020 --> 01:19:57,020 My name is Amanda Conway. 1252 01:19:57,020 --> 01:20:00,620 I'm a resident of Denton, Texas. 1253 01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:03,700 I personally would love this plan. 1254 01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:09,500 I've been part of the input sessions, a renter. 1255 01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:15,860 Like many of those that were at some of the meetings, I'm not a developer, like a large-scale 1256 01:20:15,860 --> 01:20:20,380 developer or even a person who just buys up homes in my neighborhood. 1257 01:20:20,380 --> 01:20:24,660 I'm a renter, and I have a good landlord. 1258 01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:28,820 I plan to remain a renter, because that fits my personal situation. 1259 01:20:28,820 --> 01:20:32,780 I hope for other people to have that opportunity. 1260 01:20:32,780 --> 01:20:41,540 I personally would qualify for these low-income units, and I know that I'm college-educated, 1261 01:20:41,540 --> 01:20:48,900 that I work full-time, that I have a child, that I'm law-abiding, and I want an opportunity 1262 01:20:48,900 --> 01:20:55,100 to have a home that I can afford, that I can feel safe in. 1263 01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:59,740 I want my neighbors to also have that opportunity as well. 1264 01:20:59,740 --> 01:21:00,740 I think this plan's great. 1265 01:21:00,740 --> 01:21:01,740 Thank you. 1266 01:21:01,740 --> 01:21:02,740 Thank you. 1267 01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:06,220 I appreciate sharing your thoughts. 1268 01:21:06,220 --> 01:21:08,460 Anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 1269 01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:09,460 Hi. 1270 01:21:09,460 --> 01:21:10,460 Hello. 1271 01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:14,380 Yeah, I just wanted to speak- Will you state your name for us? 1272 01:21:14,380 --> 01:21:15,380 Christine Bray. 1273 01:21:15,380 --> 01:21:16,380 Thanks, Christine. 1274 01:21:16,380 --> 01:21:17,380 Thank you. 1275 01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:18,380 I just wanted to speak in support of this. 1276 01:21:18,380 --> 01:21:21,420 I got to attend the community involvement meeting. 1277 01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:23,780 I'm grateful that staff took our feedback. 1278 01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:28,820 I think if I could summarize the feedback from the meeting very briefly, it would be, 1279 01:21:28,820 --> 01:21:29,820 this is good. 1280 01:21:29,820 --> 01:21:31,660 Can we get a lot more of it? 1281 01:21:31,660 --> 01:21:37,420 It was encouraging to see that they took the suggestion of adding the number of incentives 1282 01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:42,340 that were available to you at each given affordability increment. 1283 01:21:42,340 --> 01:21:46,660 My only encouragement would be that we should evaluate this, see how many affordable units 1284 01:21:46,660 --> 01:21:52,060 it's actually creating, to see if this is actually getting response, to see if people 1285 01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:53,820 want to take this up. 1286 01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:58,980 If we're not happy with the amount of affordable units that this is producing, consider increasing 1287 01:21:58,980 --> 01:21:59,980 them in a year or two. 1288 01:21:59,980 --> 01:22:00,980 Thank you. 1289 01:22:00,980 --> 01:22:04,100 Thank you. 1290 01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:05,100 This is a public hearing. 1291 01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:08,300 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this item? 1292 01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:14,780 Okay, seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion 1293 01:22:14,780 --> 01:22:15,780 or motion. 1294 01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:16,780 Commissioner Pruitt. 1295 01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:18,260 Thank you, Chair. 1296 01:22:18,260 --> 01:22:21,620 Yeah, I'll be happy to move approval of this item. 1297 01:22:21,620 --> 01:22:25,860 I think we had a lot of good discussion in our work sessions about it. 1298 01:22:25,860 --> 01:22:30,260 I'm thankful for all the community involvement. 1299 01:22:30,260 --> 01:22:38,020 My hope is that this would be wildly successful, and I trust with our staff that if it is not 1300 01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:44,980 creating what we need to, that we would learn from the applications that come in, as well 1301 01:22:44,980 --> 01:22:56,620 as be active and acting on our own accord to go out and find what other restrictions 1302 01:22:56,620 --> 01:23:03,700 increase the cost of homes that would not pose an undue burden on our residents to make 1303 01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:13,460 sure that residents of Denton, from all ilks, can afford to put a roof over their heads. 1304 01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:14,460 Commissioner Cole. 1305 01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:15,460 I second. 1306 01:23:15,460 --> 01:23:17,640 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval. 1307 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,060 Is there any further discussion? 1308 01:23:20,060 --> 01:23:21,540 Okay. 1309 01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:29,260 I'll just say thank you for putting this together, for the time you've taken, community involvement 1310 01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:33,940 you've gotten coming before us a couple of times, so we could have good discussion. 1311 01:23:33,940 --> 01:23:40,580 It would be a great thing to have in our toolkit and be interested to see what it does to bring 1312 01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:46,380 that opportunity, needed opportunity, to our city. 1313 01:23:46,380 --> 01:23:51,740 I would hope that maybe with whatever timeframe makes sense that you would come before this 1314 01:23:51,740 --> 01:23:57,260 board and city council and give us an update and see how this tool is operating. 1315 01:23:57,260 --> 01:23:59,420 It would be great. 1316 01:23:59,420 --> 01:24:00,420 Okay. 1317 01:24:00,420 --> 01:24:08,680 Seeing no further discussion, let's go ahead and vote on the board, please. 1318 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,140 That motion carries 4-0. 1319 01:24:11,140 --> 01:24:17,140 That will take us to our planning and zoning matrix, and I will turn it to Haley for that. 1320 01:24:17,140 --> 01:24:18,140 Good evening. 1321 01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:21,340 I did want to let you all know that we've updated the matrix that was in your packet 1322 01:24:21,340 --> 01:24:25,460 with the two items we discussed last meeting, so we are coordinating with parks to hopefully 1323 01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:29,760 get that master plan update to you all this fall. 1324 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:35,220 With regard to city council updates, at the meeting on the 20th, we did have a few items 1325 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:37,900 that were approved that had previously been before you all. 1326 01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:42,340 The charter school code amendments were approved, as well as the comprehensive plan amendment 1327 01:24:42,340 --> 01:24:46,820 and rezoning for the Dentex project that was located on the south side of All Red Road. 1328 01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:51,780 With that, we're happy to add anything else to the matrix that you all may wish to have 1329 01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:52,780 on there. 1330 01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:56,260 Anything to add to the matrix? 1331 01:24:56,260 --> 01:25:04,300 I don't know if this should be a matrix item or informational for us, but the item that 1332 01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:11,620 got postponed today is a multifamily SUP, so curious, I know we've brought it up before 1333 01:25:11,620 --> 01:25:23,460 of wondering how many multifamily projects we have in process and approved pending construction. 1334 01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:29,380 If we could maybe get an update on that, I think it would be helpful as we move forward 1335 01:25:29,380 --> 01:25:35,360 with that case, if it comes before us in any future, it would be great to get that update. 1336 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,060 Certainly we can definitely find a way to get you all that data. 1337 01:25:39,060 --> 01:25:44,140 Is there a time frame for the past year or two years, what would you be most interested 1338 01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:45,140 in? 1339 01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:48,140 Well, really in process. 1340 01:25:48,140 --> 01:25:52,420 Things that are on the ground and functioning already, that's not really what I'm going 1341 01:25:52,420 --> 01:25:53,540 for. 1342 01:25:53,540 --> 01:26:00,980 It seems we've had a lot of requests over the last, I don't know, certainly year, maybe 1343 01:26:00,980 --> 01:26:12,140 two, of multifamily projects, whether an SUP or not, so I guess that's what I'm wanting 1344 01:26:12,140 --> 01:26:13,340 a number for. 1345 01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:17,300 I think that would be helpful for us as we continue to discuss these. 1346 01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:18,300 Okay, certainly. 1347 01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:21,740 Yeah, it may not be something we need to bring back as a work session, but we can shoot you 1348 01:26:21,740 --> 01:26:24,300 all a report or something of that nature to get you that data. 1349 01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:25,300 That would be lovely. 1350 01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:26,300 Thank you. 1351 01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:28,460 Anything else for the matrix? 1352 01:26:28,460 --> 01:26:30,500 Any concluding items? 1353 01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:35,020 Okay, with that I'll go ahead and adjourn us at 7.08 p.m. 1354 01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:35,620 Thank you very much.