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 I'm Russ Bafford.

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 I'm a retired engineer.

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 My week consists of six Saturdays and a Sunday.

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 On the June 11th work session.

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 >> No, we're-- throw that one away.

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 That was a preliminary presentation that we gave

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 to council for some consideration.

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 We've gone back, these are the rates that we're going

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 to be including in the rate study or in the rate ordinance.

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 >> So the home collection,

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 chemical collection will be included in this?

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 >> Yes.

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 >> Okay, great.

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 >> It'll stay included.

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 >> Great, thank you.

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 >> Thank you.

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 >> It is included in a residence monthly bill.

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 I'm going to think to answer your question too, so.

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 So this is residential rate changes continued.

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 We are looking to change or do away

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 with our excess refuse reload fee.

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 to have their cart reloaded with refuse, there's a $7 fee.

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 Moving forward, we're looking to do away with this.

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 We will continue to offer this service if customers call in.

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 We just aren't looking to charge in the future for this.

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 Bulky waste items currently, we charge for anything greater

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 than four items per year.

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 Moving forward, we're looking to charge for greater

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 than two items per collection.

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 Anything greater than two items per collection would be $5.

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 So we're actually increasing the frequency

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 and decreasing the fee.

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 Same day cart changeout fee is currently $65.

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 Based on the cost of service model we mentioned earlier,

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 it is recommended we reduce this fee to $50.

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 Moving forward to the next fiscal year.

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 Commercial rate changes, there is one major change we want

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 to make you aware of.

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 We are looking to introduce a commercial bulky waste

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 collection this fiscal year.

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 This would include multifamily complexes and apartments.

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 So if a customer called in to have a mattress collected

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 or a mattress and a couch, for one item it would be 25.

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 If it was two, it would be 30.

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 So there's a trip fee of 20 and a per item fee of $5.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> That concludes the right portion of the presentation.

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 If there's no other questions, I'll turn it over to Brian

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 to proceed to the rest of the presentation.

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 >> Thank you.

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 >> Well, good evening.

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 My name is Brian Barnard.

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 I'm Director of Solid Waste for the City of Denton.

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 I do appreciate the opportunity to come and talk a little bit

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 about our valley service that will be rolling

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 out in the downtown area.

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 And then I'll be talking a little bit

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 about some contracting opportunities we're going

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 to take advantage of.

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 This presentation was presented to council last week

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 and has been approved to go forward.

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 So this is informational, but I'd be glad

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 to answer any questions you might have.

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 Hopefully everybody read their Denton Record Chronicle

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 over the weekend and saw on the business pages where we talked

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 about our valley service.

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 Back on June 11th, we proposed a proof of concept back

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 on Industrial Street, which is, what, roosters and Steve's wine

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 bar and the other, you know, Texas tapas and fuzzies

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 and just that wonderful area, you know, to go in

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 and actually look at the way that we do garbage there.

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 Downtown, we have a series of what we call shared dumpsters

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 because it's so tight space we cannot locate a dumpster

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 for commercial service at every building.

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 So again, what we have is a series

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 of shared service dumpsters throughout the downtown area.

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 They're usually sitting in the right-of-way.

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 They're taking up parking.

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 They smell.

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 They're done sightly.

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 What we wanted to do is actually roll out this program and a proof

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 of concept which began on June 24th was to last, you know,

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 up to 120 days, but after 45 days it was like,

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 this is so successful.

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 We're not going to wait any longer.

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 We're going to roll it out, make these improvements

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 in the entire downtown area.

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 Basically what it is, it's a back door collection to each

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 of these shared service opportunities.

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 We have about 141 businesses and downtown residents

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 that are currently on the service.

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 So what we would do is actually incorporate them

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 into a collection depending on your usage size,

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 anywhere from maybe one time, two times a week,

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 up to three or four times a day depending on how much garbage

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 that you're-- and recycling that you generated.

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 Remove the public containers and as we start rolling

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 out and seeing how much free time is available

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 for our collectors, you know, start doing litter abatement,

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 pressure washing, just general cleanliness downtown.

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 So again, we began with the industrial street and as I said,

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 it was so popular and successful, we decided to move

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 to the rest of the downtown area.

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 Some of the benefits we originally identified was

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 improved aesthetics and odors.

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 And I got a couple of slides here

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 in a moment you're going to see really the benefit of the area.

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 Adding parking spots.

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 Parking is at a premium downtown.

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 Just by removing two dumpsters in the Russell Street,

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 behind Industrial Street here, freed up two spots.

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 By removing all of our shared dumpsters, we anticipate we can

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 get up to 20 additional parking spaces downtown.

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 So again, a lot of that depends on orientation and everything else

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 but, you know, 20 is a million when you're talking

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 about downtown and the need that goes on there.

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 So again, improved service efficiency just

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 because we're working with our businesses downtown,

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 we have a higher level of service due

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 to the increased frequency.

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 We're reducing our trucks from about 16 a week to two a week.

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 And again, on and on, there's just benefits out there

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 and they continue to grow.

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 >> Sixteen to two.

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 >> Correct.

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 >> Wow.

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 >> Yeah.

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 >> Think of the emissions that are not--

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 >> Exactly, you know, the wear and tear of the street.

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 >> And the wear and tear of the street.

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 >> And, you know, if you're one of those residents that's

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 in an apartment downtown, you know, we start early

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 so that we're not blocked in by parking.

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 So that truck comes rumbling by at what, 5 o'clock in the morning?

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 I don't know about you but I appreciate a little extra sleep

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 in the morning and not be awakened.

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 So again, you know, just another benefit.

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 So, okay.

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 So here's some before and after pictures.

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 This is behind Steve's Wine Bar.

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 This is the old garbage container that was there.

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 And you'll notice in the six weeks that since it's been removed,

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 it's a little bit cleaner

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 and Steve has actually constructed a patio back there

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 for his patrons to use.

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 So again, it's improving the aesthetics

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 and the business in the area.

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 Behind roosters and fuzzies, again, you know,

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 we've removed the recycle container and again,

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 it's opened up the street.

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 You can see how much cleaner it looks back in that area.

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 So again, just some immediate benefits from working in that area.

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 Here's something I want to talk about when we talk about shared service.

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 Again, you know, basically anybody in the area can throw trash

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 in those shared dumpsters and technically,

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 you've got an assigned dumpster or set of dumpsters to use

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 but what we found prior to starting the valet service,

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 we had about 56 cubic yards of service there every week

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 between garbage and recycling which equates to almost 10 tons of material.

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 When we started actually counting and weighing the bags in the valet,

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 we found that we were only servicing about 3.16

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 which means there's almost 7 tons of illegal dump material

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 in that Russell Street area every week.

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 And if it's just in Russell Street, what's happened on Hickory and Austin

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 and Cedar and all those others that we have down there.

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 So again, there's a high level of service that was happening.

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 We're still-- you know, our guys are downtown, they're working hard,

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 they're trying to see if this material is going somewhere else but again,

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 you know, it's highlighting a problem that again, the next step is trying to figure

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 out how we're going to address this material as it continues to identify it

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 and then how we're going to address it.

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 When you look at the tonnage, about 2-- a little more than 2 tons a week was garbage,

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 almost a full ton a week was recycling which is tremendous.

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 It gets our recycling rate up to about almost 29%.

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 When you look across the commercial sector in the city of Denton,

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 we're doing good to get 15% every week.

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 And in this area, we've been able to get to 29.

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 And part of that has to go with the fact that we're actually working with the business owners

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 and the people that are doing the work about how to recycle right.

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 What they can recycle, what they can pull out of their trash.

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 What I really want to focus on here is this contamination rate.

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 Again, it's less than 8%.

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 Right now, across the rest of the business sectors in the city of Denton,

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 we're anywhere from about 40 to 50%.

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 It is just really bad.

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 Actually, that number should be less than 1%.

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 In one load in one week, we had a person that was refilling the fryer with oil and forgot

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 to put the cap on as tight as they should.

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 And when they went in to compact it, the residual oil actually contaminated.

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 But we actually-- what was it, last week or the week before,

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 we had a load come through with 0% contamination.

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 And by working intensely with these businesses and looking at what's going in there

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 and going back and having those conversations,

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 we can really clean up those recycling loads.

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 So again, and the good part about that is it reduces the amount of waste.

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 It increases the value of the recycling.

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 So it really helps us as we're moving along.

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 As we start looking at the phase in of the valet through the downtown area,

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 we're going to be looking at it in several phases.

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 Starting today, we began a two-week audit period.

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 We're going to start with phase one south of downtown.

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 We're still talking about whether we could do phase two north of the courthouse or east

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 of the courthouse, but we may swap these two.

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 Go to phase four.

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 Finish up the area around the industrial street going north and south.

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 And then in phase six in November, come all the way over to Fry Street.

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 We do have some shared dumpsters over there.

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 But again, this whole auditing is actually going in, working with the management of the staff.

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 As they take out a load of garbage, they put it on an old-fashioned tick sheet.

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 You know, this is garbage at 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock.

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 What that does, it helps us build the route,

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 determine how many carts are going to need, what kind of capacity, so on and so forth.

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 So again, we don't want garbage sitting at the back door.

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 We don't want liquids going everywhere.

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 We're going to get it out and get it out of the way, clean up the downtown.

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 And again, we anticipate completion by the end of November through all the phases.

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 Again, there's going to be a new billing paradigm that we'll talk about here in just a minute.

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 It's based on a tier assignment, based on basically what your usage is.

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 We don't think that a single-family resident should be paying the same rate

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 as a very, very heavy industrial, you know, bar, grill type of thing.

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 So again, we've got different tiers set up.

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 We're going to go through this, and as people clean up their waste generation,

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 reduce the amount of waste, we'll do a true-up in 2020, such that you're paying,

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 everybody's paying the appropriate level.

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 It gives you an opportunity to actually lower your waste bill in the process.

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 Currently, it cost us almost $155,000 a year, or we're receiving

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 about $155,000 a year in payment.

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 But based on the illegal dumping and the actual cost that it tossed us to service that area,

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 we're under-collecting about $80,000 a year.

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 This valet service, again, is more expensive.

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 It's about $123,000 more, only because it's so intense on the personnel side.

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 But again, we're collecting litter, we'll be power washing.

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 These guys downtown have become our brand ambassadors.

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 They are going to be what people see as the city of Denton.

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 They'll be giving directions and doing other things.

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 But again, they're going to be out there intensively working in these areas and see and be seen.

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 So they'll be making a good impression for us.

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 When we talk about the different shared service rates, again, tier one is your office

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 and your residential, maybe a bag of garbage every two or three days.

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 Right now, we're seeing people in what we're calling a tier one paying anywhere from $24.72

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 all the way up to almost $200.

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 And that's just because of how wacky the current system is.

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 It's really hard to try to figure out how the rates came up with in the first place.

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 What we propose is anybody in phase one or in tier one would go to $24.70.

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 And on down, you'll see the different descriptions, the number of customers we have.

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 Under this system, like I said, we currently have about 141 businesses and residents on

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 shared service.

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 Right now, almost 100 of these businesses and residents would actually see a rate decrease

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 as a result of this tiered service.

506
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:09,000
 We have probably about a half dozen businesses right now that aren't paying anything.

507
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,240
 They never had solid waste services set up.

508
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,840
 And so we'll be getting them in line and paying their fair share as we go along with this.

509
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,000
 And as a result, continue working with everybody to get their rate as low as possible but equitable

510
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,880
 for what they're going to be producing.

511
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,720
 So with that, any questions on the valet or the shared service?

512
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,200
 I think it sounds great.

513
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,480
 As long as you can handle the labor costs, are you hiring anybody -- going to need to

514
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,040
 hire anybody in addition to cover the -- Yes.

515
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,720
 We actually are hiring a crew of -- a five -- a crew leader and then four field service

516
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,400
 workers to actually run this program exclusively downtown.

517
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,400
 They're not on any other truck.

518
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,820
 They don't have other assignments.

519
00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:55,820
 That will be their job.

520
00:24:55,820 --> 00:24:56,820
 All right?

521
00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:57,820
 Yeah.

522
00:24:57,820 --> 00:24:58,820
 Very good.

523
00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:07,240
 If not, the last thing we'll talk about is some contracted rates and waste volumes.

524
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,380
 Currently in the city of Denton, we have four private companies and one municipality bringing

525
00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:14,840
 waste to the city of Denton's landfill.

526
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:21,520
 They are not under contract but they are enjoying a rate of $24.50, much less than the $44.

527
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,640
 This is an internal rate that we basically charge ourself to process material and dispose

528
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,280
 of the waste.

529
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,440
 Over the years, though, other companies came in and they were allowed to enjoy this rate

530
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,260
 really with no contract or no direction.

531
00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:44,060
 So what we're trying to do is a little bit of cleanup and try to memorialize some of

532
00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:46,040
 this in a contracted situation.

533
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,480
 Currently we're receiving almost 9,000 tons of waste a month from these companies with

534
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,040
 close to $2.7 million in annual revenue.

535
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,040
 This is important because what it does, it allows us to bridge a financial gap that we

536
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,880
 currently have in the system.

537
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,840
 We have some long-term debt that if we pulled this, we would actually have to raise rates

538
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,380
 for both our business and residential customers.

539
00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:13,080
 So it allows us to keep the rates as low as possible but maintain some financial stability

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,800
 as we're going through here.

541
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,000
 What we've done is we've met with representatives of each of these entities and asked them to

542
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,420
 propose a guaranteed tonnage rate and a guaranteed amount of tonnage they would bring in here

543
00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:24,420
 and a rate.

544
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,080
 And commonly that's called a put or pay.

545
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,360
 So basically you say you're going to bring X amount and regardless of how much you bring,

546
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,960
 you're obligated to pay us for that tonnage.

547
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,820
 So if you say you're going to bring 200 tons and you only bring 150, you still owe us for

548
00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:41,640
 that additional 50 and you're going to pay the rate at which you're proposed.

549
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,520
 This would be under a three-year contract with an annual escalator like the CPI and

550
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,440
 we do a true-up on tonnage at the end of the year so everybody paid their fair share.

551
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280
 While we were doing these meetings, we actually had an additional government step forward

552
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800
 and say we want to bring some waste to you.

553
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,720
 So again, we throw that out to them and said how much you want to bring and what do you

554
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,320
 pay us to take it.

555
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,880
 So here's really what we've come back with.

556
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,720
 So the tonnage and the rates, they're sort of all over the board, but what it does, it

557
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,840
 basically brings us about 3,300 additional tons a month, but with these 33 additional

558
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:25,400
 tons we actually gain almost $1.4 million additional revenue annually.

559
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,800
 It's an estimated loss of about 80 days of airspace over the three-year period, but when

560
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,280
 you look at, you know, we've got 17 years left in the life of this landfill, you know,

561
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,040
 three years is within the margin of error, operational error, and when we look at our

562
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,520
 landfill expansion, we've got anywhere from 30 to 50 years on top of that.

563
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,800
 So again, it's an opportunity for us to regain some revenue, possibly provide some fundings

564
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,700
 for some projects that we've got coming up or provide some rate relief.

565
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:57,720
 At the end of the day though, what this does, this three-year, it allows us to get out of

566
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,400
 that debt circle.

567
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,960
 So in three years if we decide not to renew contracts with any of these companies from

568
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,560
 a financial standpoint, we won't have to worry about that debt that would have rolled off

569
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,000
 by that time and we can go back and not renew this, have them pay $46 or whatever the rate

570
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000
 gate rate is.

571
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,920
 If they want to use this grade, if not, that would be fine, but our rate payers would not

572
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,080
 be negatively affected by not accepting the waste at this time.

573
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,280
 Well, you guessed what my question was going to be on airspace, so yeah.

574
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,280
 So what is the --

575
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,280
 Oh, I'm sorry.

576
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,280
 Go ahead, Russ.

577
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,040
 Can you define for me airspace?

578
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:44,200
 Yeah, airspace basically is how we convert volume or how we convert weight to volume.

579
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:51,400
 So basically you can fit so much trash in so many cubic yards of space and because the

580
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,760
 height of the landfill is regular by the permit, it basically defines how much of the permit

581
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,800
 is eaten up by this activity.

582
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,480
 So we anticipate we've got about 17, 18 years of life, 80 days of that would be consumed

583
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,480
 by this activity.

584
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,040
 I had a two-part question, but that was the answer to the first one.

585
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,720
 The second one is you've listed your additional revenues that you'll be earning, what's your

586
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,720
 additional cost?

587
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,520
 There is no additional cost.

588
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360
 So it's zero for you to take?

589
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:26,120
 It cost us zero because again, running a landfill is a fixed-based enterprise.

590
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
 So if you get more waste, do you steal it and cost you more?

591
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,880
 No.

592
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,880
 You guys are great.

593
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,880
 I want to know that formula.

594
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880
 You've got to do that.

595
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880
 Well, you know, whether you take one ton of waste or whether you take 2,000 tons of waste

596
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880
 --

597
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880
 Well, if you take 50 people, it takes you more to take 100 people.

598
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880
 Yeah.

599
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880
 Yeah.

600
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880
 Okay.

601
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
 I don't buy it, but okay.

602
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880
 It doesn't matter because you've already passed it through council.

603
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,420
 I don't know why we're talking about it.

604
00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:48,040
 So anyway, this was another scenario, but they didn't go that route.

605
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,280
 So at the end of the day, we do have rating ordinances.

606
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480
 We're bringing it back to you today and it will be brought back to the city council,

607
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:00,680
 I believe, on the 10th.

608
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,980
 This is on the individual consideration to be approved today.

609
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:05,760
 It will be approved for city council on September 17th.

610
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760
 Okay.

611
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,760
 Excuse me.

612
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,360
 And as I said, we've begun the initial implementation in phase one in the downtown service area.

613
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,040
 And again, we're finalizing the contracting on the rates and volumes for the third-party

614
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,040
 haulers.

615
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160
 Those contracts we'll bring back and for consideration.

616
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,800
 All right.

617
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,800
 Questions?

618
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,800
 Any other questions?

619
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,800
 All right.

620
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,800
 Thank you.

621
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,800
 Thank you very much.

622
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,800
 Thank you, Brian.

623
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,800
 All right.

624
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,620
 Next item is receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding the Denton

625
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:45,600
 Municipal Electric Fiscal Year 2019-2020 schedules of rates for electrical services.

626
00:30:45,600 --> 00:31:00,560
 Good evening, board members and new board members.

627
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,360
 Sorry, my presentation is not going to be near as exciting as the landfill presentation.

628
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:12,240
 And like Nick has spoken up, we kind of got out of sequence here with some PV meetings.

629
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,720
 So this item has already been to the city council along with the solid waste rates.

630
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,240
 They've given us direction.

631
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,360
 We should note that we were-- if we would have followed the right sequence, we had two

632
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,640
 options that would be a no rate increase or a tiered rate increase of 3 percent with one

633
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,000
 and a half being each year.

634
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,720
 So those options were presented to the council and they gave us guidance to go with the no

635
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,040
 increase.

636
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,480
 So along with that, the caveat to that is we let them know that we'll probably be bringing

637
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:51,280
 this issue back to them by the end of the year to possibly address raising the ECA rate.

638
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,960
 So as I stated, there's no rate changes at all to the rate book for the electric rates

639
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,160
 for the 2019 to 2020 year.

640
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,760
 There's some minor changes here that are some terminology and some units and we're adding

641
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,920
 a LED security light rate and I'll cover these as we go.

642
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,240
 Any questions?

643
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,880
 No change is good.

644
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,320
 So what we have here is we'll start with the residential rates.

645
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,520
 These rates would be the same and this are going forward as they were last year.

646
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,360
 The facility charge, the usage charge and the ECA charge are all the same.

647
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,840
 So we have our three types of residential rates here.

648
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,120
 We have our standard residential rate, a renewable service.

649
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:44,200
 The difference there would be the RCA charge, that $4.80 charge and then our prepaid service

650
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480
 which I believe came online this year.

651
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,200
 That's a program where citizens can elect to prepay for the electric service.

652
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,080
 So as you'll note on here, the facility charge is about $7 and some change more than the

653
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,600
 standard facility charge.

654
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560
 That is the cost to administer the program.

655
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:07,440
 So this third party vendor actually is administering the program for this prepaid service.

656
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,440
 And the benefit to that we should say is there's no deposit.

657
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,720
 So for some accounts that have gotten behind, this is a way for them to get current.

658
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560
 So there's no deposit and there's no reconnect fee.

659
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:25,120
 So if the citizen is disconnected because their account went to zero, they charge their

660
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:32,240
 account, electricity would be turned back on, there'd be no charge to the rate payer.

661
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,880
 Our commercial rates, general service, they're the same as they were last year, kind of have

662
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,640
 general service, small, medium and large.

663
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,880
 We've shown some just typical bills and the proponents of that bill along with just kind

664
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:51,160
 of give you some idea of what type of entities are serviced with each rate.

665
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:57,920
 LED security lights, so I believe on September 9th there'll be an item coming before you

666
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,760
 which would be an LED street light program for the city of Denton.

667
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:08,200
 So in lieu of that, this is for the security lights which is its own individual rate.

668
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,340
 So these lights are not metered.

669
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:15,120
 So they're just a standard usage based on the manufacturer data.

670
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,800
 So we noticed that as we move forward with LEDs after the street lights, if it's approved

671
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,280
 and they're implemented, they will start to change out some of the security lights with

672
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,280
 the LED lights.

673
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,760
 So all this does is simply state that it accounts for the efficiency of the LED bulbs.

674
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,080
 So on the 100 watt, there's an example there on the 100 watt sodium vapor that's replaced

675
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,360
 with equivalent LED, you can see there's a small change.

676
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:45,840
 But over time when all lights get converted, this would be a significant energy savings.

677
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,520
 And finally, and for transparency sake and in the past, the rate book has always had

678
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,360
 the ECA and the RCA and has the formula of how you calculate it but it was never stated

679
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360
 in the manual.

680
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,120
 So it was stated in the budget, it was stated on the website.

681
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,080
 So to be more transparent, we thought we would just post that rate in the rate book and if

682
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,640
 we do need to come back to you, it'll take an ordinance to change this rate.

683
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,240
 At that time, we would update the rate book with whatever rate is selected.

684
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,240
 Like that.

685
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,240
 Any questions?

686
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,480
 Pretty dry.

687
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,720
 Sometimes we're more excited than this.

688
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,880
 Does the ECA, this is my second stint here, I don't know how you do it now, does the ECA

689
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,760
 come through the PUB for approval or does it go directly to the council?

690
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,540
 No sir, it goes through both.

691
00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:38,240
 But because we didn't have a quorum, they needed to take it forward to council.

692
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:46,080
 We tried to stay in the, if we know what the budget cycle is coming up.

693
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,080
 Yes sir.

694
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080
 So there is.

695
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120
 So it would have been approved through PUB Monday and then Tuesday council would have

696
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,800
 seen it, like 24 hour period, correct?

697
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,800
 Yes sir.

698
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,880
 That's the way it was scheduled, correct?

699
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,880
 Correct.

700
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,880
 Correct.

701
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
 And then it got bumped by, because there wasn't that meeting, so that's how it kind of got

702
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,360
 out of cycle.

703
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,360
 We just went straight to council.

704
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,360
 Correct.

705
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,400
 And then Tuesday on that we went straight to council and then.

706
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,400
 I understand.

707
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,400
 Yeah.

708
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,540
 And the ECA rate, the rate is written where it's a formula, it's an over or under collected,

709
00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:19,920
 but there's a discretion of the DME director to bring that to PUB and council as they see

710
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,920
 fit.

711
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
 We have to have some speculation, that's for sure.

712
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,920
 Yes sir, you're sure.

713
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,920
 Why is the RCA higher than the ECA?

714
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,480
 The RCA is the cost of the rec.

715
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,040
 Renewable energy credit.

716
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,040
 Renewable energy credit.

717
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:42,200
 So that's the ECA, it's the EC rate plus that .004 cents, that's the cost of the rec.

718
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,160
 So this is a rate that'll stay on the books as directed for the, when we go 100% renewable,

719
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,480
 at that time this rate would not be applicable, but it is on the rate book until we get to

720
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,820
 that point.

721
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:55,820
 And it is not changed?

722
00:36:55,820 --> 00:36:56,820
 No ma'am.

723
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:57,820
 Yeah.

724
00:36:57,820 --> 00:36:58,820
 It's not changed.

725
00:36:58,820 --> 00:36:59,820
 Okay.

726
00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:05,120
 And the only other change we had on there that kind of skipped over was our demand charge,

727
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:11,400
 it doesn't affect businesses at all, but it's just a unit change from KVA to KW.

728
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:18,160
 So that as these accounts cross from one account or one level to the next, it takes a firmware

729
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,440
 upgrade in the meters to capture that KVA.

730
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,320
 So changing it to KW would be a better way that our meter shop can see when they need

731
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
 to change that rate.

732
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,060
 So but there's no cost to the businesses.

733
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:35,800
 All right, other questions?

734
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,080
 All right, thank you for your time.

735
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,080
 Thank you.

736
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,040
 And the next work session item, receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff

737
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:59,360
 direction regarding credit collections, performance and processes.

738
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,280
 Madam Chair, board members, Krista Foster, customer service, welcome to our new members

739
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,000
 this evening.

740
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,720
 So I'm here this evening to do a little bit of follow up again on our credit and collections

741
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,260
 processes in the customer service division.

742
00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:18,720
 In February of 2018, we had some council directed changes to the way that we managed our credit

743
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:19,900
 and collections.

744
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:25,200
 We added about $25,000 a year to our plus one utility assistance program.

745
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,880
 We also broadened those scope of that program so that we can assist families more than once

746
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,820
 during the calendar year and we can assist with deposits.

747
00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:41,120
 We also introduced some additional deposit waiver options, including the bank draft deposit,

748
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:47,880
 a recurring payment deposit waiver and a homelessness deposit waiver that's part of the rapid rehousing

749
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,480
 program.

750
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,400
 The more important changes that were made to this were we changed the internal credit

751
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,240
 rating scale and that's what a lot of the things we're talking about today are related

752
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,520
 to.

753
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,560
 So what we did is we changed the way that we calculate some of the points that cause

754
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,840
 us to do an increased deposit.

755
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,280
 We also now have changed the credit scoring so it requires a greater number of events

756
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,840
 before a deposit is required on the account and for a lot of customers, it reduced the

757
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,680
 amount of deposit that's required by half.

758
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,800
 So what has happened with this is it has allowed us to charge fewer deposits or charge a lot

759
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,800
 less in deposits and we're providing some feedback on how that's going and what's happening

760
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,360
 with our performance.

761
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,920
 In March of 2019, we were asked to come back at a year into the program to provide some

762
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,120
 updates.

763
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,760
 We also came with Navigant Consulting.

764
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,960
 That's the company that had helped with us putting our processes into place and meeting

765
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,760
 some of the best practices.

766
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,920
 So we wanted them to review how our performance is going as well as to provide an update related

767
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,340
 to the changes that had been made.

768
00:39:55,340 --> 00:39:59,980
 As a result of that, we issued an informal staff report in June so that City Council

769
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:04,380
 could have some of their additional follow-up questions answered and they asked a few clarifying

770
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:08,200
 questions in the June 4th session when we were before them then.

771
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,840
 So what we're doing is we're addressing some of those clarifications tonight.

772
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:18,120
 >> Can I ask on that first slide, I'm not sure what you meant by interest no longer

773
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,680
 counts as a -- >> So what happened is we have different types

774
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,440
 of events like a late payment or interest when you would accrue interest on your account,

775
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,360
 it would be counted toward your internal credit score as a negative.

776
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,340
 So that was removed from it.

777
00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:40,520
 So the number of points that are accrued by a customer for their payment behaviors were

778
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,480
 modified slightly and that's the one that was changed there.

779
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,640
 So in the beginning of March, we only had just the very first portions of the bad debt

780
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,640
 data that had happened after these changes were made.

781
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,160
 So since we're coming back, we wanted to again continue to provide feedback on that.

782
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,700
 We were asked to closely monitor that.

783
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:06,800
 So again, just so that our new members can know, in 2010 is when we began implementing

784
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,320
 credit and collection practices to mimic best practices of the industry and what happened

785
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,640
 is we found that our annual bad debt was over $1.1 million that fiscal year.

786
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,980
 And so once we put a program into place, we began following some of the different standards

787
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:24,680
 that we followed today.

788
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:32,040
 We saw that reduce all the way down to $381,000 a year, just continually throughout that time

789
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,040
 period through FY '16-'17.

790
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:41,680
 FY '17-'18 was the first time since introduction of those policies that we've seen a growth

791
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,800
 in the annual amount of bad debt.

792
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,840
 That is the year we're partway through we've made these changes to our collection practices.

793
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,160
 The more concerning thing for us currently is that we had mentioned before that as we're

794
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,960
 just starting to see the data, it's a very volatile number.

795
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:05,820
 So over the first quarter of FY '18-'19, we've already seen a 44% increase in bad debt

796
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:08,720
 over the first quarter of the previous year.

797
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,560
 So we are still very closely monitoring these numbers.

798
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,460
 And that was before the hot weather.

799
00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:17,200
 And that was before the hot weather.

800
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,280
 And the high bills.

801
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,120
 And right now, we're looking at we have an additional 3,000 residential accounts that

802
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,320
 have been added in the last year.

803
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:32,480
 But we're at $850,000 fewer deposits on file than we would have had prior.

804
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,840
 So another quick summary so everyone can kind of see year over or quarter over quarter for

805
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:42,840
 the last three years, that in '15-'16, we followed the same practices that had been implemented

806
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,160
 in FY 2010.

807
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,780
 In '16-'17, we followed the same practices that we had followed in 2010.

808
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:56,760
 And then as you see in FY '17-'18, it's the point where you see the black outline.

809
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:02,200
 This is the quarters that represent the changes to our policy over time.

810
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,240
 And then of course, the FY '18-'19 is there as well.

811
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:11,440
 The thing that's most alarming to us at this point is that over the last 13 consecutive

812
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:18,360
 quarters, we've only seen bad debt exceed an average of $50,000 a month three times

813
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,360
 and two of those are the last two consecutive quarters.

814
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:28,200
 So there's still a lot of need for us to continue to closely monitor what's going on with this

815
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,520
 performance of debt.

816
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,580
 One of the questions that we were asked to provide a little additional clarification

817
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:42,760
 on is the relation of late fees and interest to bad debt.

818
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,120
 We were specifically asked what part of late fees, interest and deposits make up bad debt.

819
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,800
 So first I want to make sure that it's clarified.

820
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,920
 Deposits are never a contributor in a negative way to bad debt.

821
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,960
 That money belongs to the customer.

822
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600
 We are simply holding it on their behalf.

823
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,000
 Once that account closes, we refund the balance of that plus interest to the customer so it

824
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,440
 only ever offsets the numbers for bad debt.

825
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:15,080
 The second thing that's important to note is that final balances are not subject to

826
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,120
 late fees or interest.

827
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,280
 At the point the customer initiates that termination request, that balance is no longer subject

828
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,460
 to a late fee.

829
00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:29,240
 So anytime there is a late fee that's part of a write-off balance, it means that those

830
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:34,840
 fees existed prior to the customer requesting service termination.

831
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:42,040
 That being said, for our residential accounts, the average write-off is $278.

832
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,180
 And of that, $8 is fees and $0.75 would be interest on average.

833
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:51,360
 It accounts for about 3% of our bad debt.

834
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:58,480
 And only 35% of those write-off accounts actually have some form of fear interest that was included.

835
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,960
 Excuse me, just a quick question, how is the interest determined on how you're going to

836
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,600
 pay interest on the deposit back to the customer?

837
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,600
 We follow the federal interest rates.

838
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,600
 Okay.

839
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,600
 Which one?

840
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,600
 I don't know.

841
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,600
 Okay.

842
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,600
 I know.

843
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,600
 I'm off the top of my head.

844
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,600
 I can get the information and provide it back.

845
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,120
 I was just thinking about putting some money in the deposit.

846
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,120
 I don't think you'd pay that much bill.

847
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,000
 I will allow Tiffany to address that.

848
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,240
 Good evening, Tiffany Thompson, Director of Customer Service.

849
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,320
 I would not recommend putting your money there.

850
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,280
 It is a very small amount, but we do work with finance on what that is updated, but

851
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,440
 we work with the federal reserves on what that amount is, but it's very small.

852
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:51,800
 I wouldn't -- I care about you, don't do it.

853
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,200
 Any other questions?

854
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,200
 Okay.

855
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,320
 So, the other things that we were talking about, one of them is the way that late fees

856
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,560
 are assessed.

857
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,960
 So I wanted to address late fees and payment behavior.

858
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:11,900
 So in FY 2010, we increased our late fee from $10 to $20.

859
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:17,760
 We are one of the few municipalities that charges a flat late fee versus a percentage,

860
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
 which is where the question was raised.

861
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,160
 So as we're looking at this, what happened is we found that the $10 fee was not significant

862
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,920
 enough to deter the behaviors in the payment patterns.

863
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:37,360
 As soon as that fee changed to a $20 flat fee, we saw an immediate 29% month over month

864
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,520
 increase.

865
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:45,480
 And across eight years, that has resulted in over 42% fewer account delinquencies.

866
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,160
 The fewer delinquent accounts, the fewer customers who are being impacted negatively with fees,

867
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,160
 with interest, or with additional deposits.

868
00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:00,000
 So we recommend, you know, that this stays as it is because it is an effective deterrent

869
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:09,640
 to keep customers out of situations where they may be charged additional funds.

870
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,800
 Another area that we had questions about was the way we handle our deposits on transfers

871
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,080
 of service.

872
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,780
 We are an outlier.

873
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:24,240
 A lot of the different utilities actually transfer everything with the service.

874
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,920
 What we do internally is we will actually take the account that you're at today.

875
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,320
 We finalize the account.

876
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,280
 We apply your deposit and interest back to that final balance.

877
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,240
 We assess to see if you still require a deposit at the new account and assess that at the

878
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,800
 new account.

879
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,160
 The customer does have the option if there isn't a deposit assessed that they can make

880
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,820
 arrangements on that.

881
00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:52,640
 This gives that customer more access to fluid assets during that time that they're moving

882
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,880
 than if we were to follow some of the other practices.

883
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,880
 Most utilities will actually take at the time that account finalizes, they just transfer

884
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,180
 the deposit as well as all of the final balances.

885
00:48:04,180 --> 00:48:08,660
 That means that immediately that customer could be in jeopardy of additional fees or interruptions

886
00:48:08,660 --> 00:48:11,120
 at the new account.

887
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:17,040
 If that customer maybe would have to pay a lower deposit or no deposit at all, it doesn't

888
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,320
 take that into consideration.

889
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,040
 What we actually found was only 8% of our customers who have transferred service over

890
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:31,040
 the last 12 months actually were assessed a deposit at their new location.

891
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:38,200
 20% of our customers who had deposits got their deposit refunded and didn't require

892
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440
 a deposit at their new location.

893
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:50,480
 So we're giving them that benefit of being able to have better access to those funds.

894
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,680
 So for next steps, our recommendations are that we continue to monitor the uncollectible

895
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,240
 debt trend over the next quarter.

896
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:03,760
 In December of 2019, if we still continue to see the climb and the rates going up as

897
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:10,000
 they are today, we will be coming back looking for some containment strategies to help mitigate

898
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,920
 that before we see a significant amount of bad debt at the end of the year.

899
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,960
 We also would recommend postponing or avoiding any kind of policy or procedure updates that

900
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,560
 are going to contribute to the growth of that current uncollectible bad debt that we maintain

901
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,640
 our existing late fee structure as an effective deterrent to help prevent that from happening.

902
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,080
 And that we continue with our current deposit process.

903
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,360
 We actually did a little bit of surveying over the customers in the month of June, all

904
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,640
 customers who had transferred service.

905
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,040
 We did see one who said that he felt like he would rather have everything transferred

906
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,880
 over but largely the customers like that process.

907
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,060
 They felt like it was very easy to understand and they felt like it was beneficial to them

908
00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:59,200
 to be able to have that deposit pay off their final balances.

909
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,560
 And we also want to continue to monitor and grow our pay as you go prepaid metering program

910
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,720
 because of the -- it's the way that we can relieve burden to customers without having

911
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:16,880
 an impact on uncollectible debt.

912
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,160
 >> I remember we reduced it from a two-month balance to a one-month balance and utility

913
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:29,500
 industry is two months because we don't even know yet that you're going bad if it's just

914
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:30,500
 one month.

915
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:33,000
 Do you think that is the contributing factor?

916
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:39,400
 >> That is definitely a contributor to this because when a customer leaves the city and

917
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,800
 they terminate an account, they're going to have their current bill as well as another

918
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520
 month of service that has yet to bill.

919
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,340
 So that is typically why that standard is in place.

920
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:57,520
 When we do still charge a two-month deposit on the lowest tiers of that credit score but

921
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,240
 in that credit scale, we do have an entire section that is a one-month.

922
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,360
 >> Okay.

923
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,360
 Thank you.

924
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,720
 >> Any additional questions?

925
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:10,840
 >> You know how this -- how does this debt picture compare with other municipalities of

926
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,840
 a similar size?

927
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,800
 >> It is actually fairly difficult to be able to pull so that we -- Tiffany, do we have

928
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,200
 that from the Navigant study?

929
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,920
 >> If not, I'll provide that back to you.

930
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,200
 We had provided some information in March related to that.

931
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,800
 Only a handful of the other municipalities had actually provided some of their bad debt

932
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,800
 statistics.

933
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,240
 But I can certainly provide that back to you.

934
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:42,760
 >> I have another question but it's gone.

935
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,760
 Any other questions?

936
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,760
 >> All right.

937
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,760
 >> Thank you.

938
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,760
 >> Thank you.

939
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,760
 >> Oh, did you have something else?

940
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,760
 >> No.

941
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,760
 >> Okay.

942
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,760
 >> Okay.

943
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,360
 Next item then is consent agenda.

944
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,360
 >> Did you find them?

945
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,360
 >> Oh.

946
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,360
 Okay.

947
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,040
 >> Thank you for the question.

948
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,280
 Whenever we did the Navigant consultant, City of Denton came in quite favorable for our

949
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,280
 bad debt, what we had.

950
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,400
 We had Denton, Austin, DeSoto, Houston, and some of those like Austin had .45%, Lubbock

951
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:17,520
 was .54%, we were .15%, so we came out very favorable with our policies that were in place

952
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:24,760
 with that so they were actually kind of recommending us as being the model to other utilities.

953
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,760
 Does that answer your question?

954
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,960
 >> Prior to the changes or after?

955
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,320
 >> Prior to the changes.

956
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,920
 But that's where we're still at whenever we were reporting this.

957
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,920
 >> Okay.

958
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,920
 Thank you.

959
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,360
 >> I wanted to get that answered this evening.

960
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,880
 >> Thank you.

961
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,880
 >> Okay.

962
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,200
 Now we're onto the consent agenda and I believe we have just one item.

963
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,200
 Does the board, any board member wish to pull that item?

964
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,520
 All right.

965
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,960
 Then do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda?

966
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,960
 >> I move approval.

967
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,960
 >> I'll second.

968
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,760
 >> All in favor say aye.

969
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,760
 >> Aye.

970
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,760
 >> Opposed?

971
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,760
 Carries.

972
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,760
 Okay.

973
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,400
 Items for individual consideration.

974
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:11,320
 The minutes of July 22, 2019, did anyone have any changes or corrections?

975
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,280
 Okay, then they'll stand approved as presented.

976
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,720
 Next item is consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the municipal electric

977
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:25,720
 fiscal year 2019-2020 schedule of rates for electric service.

978
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:31,000
 Since we already had a presentation, do we have a motion to approve?

979
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,680
 >> Unless there's any additional information on it, I make a motion to approve.

980
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,680
 >> I second.

981
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,680
 >> Okay.

982
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,680
 All in favor say aye.

983
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,680
 >> Aye.

984
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,680
 >> Opposed?

985
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,480
 That one carries.

986
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,120
 Consider recommending adoption of an ordinance from the City of Denton, Texas, Home Rule

987
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,000
 Municipal Corporation authorizing the city manager to execute a contract with Archer

988
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,900
 Western Construction for the construction of Lake Louisville water treatment plant dewatering

989
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:57,900
 facility.

990
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,520
 I'm not going to read it all for the amount of $8,124,640.

991
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:19,840
 >> Oops, I grabbed the wrong presentation on my flash drive.

992
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,840
 >> Okay.

993
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,840
 >> Good evening, Madam Chair, PUB.

994
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:38,440
 I am Frank Pugsley, the Director of Water Utilities here to discuss the Lake Louisville

995
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:54,560
 water treatment plant dewatering facility, let me see if I can get this full screen.

996
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,640
 Here we go.

997
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:06,240
 Well, it's not working out for me as well as I'd like.

998
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:12,200
 The Louisville dewatering project, historically the Lake Louisville water treatment plant

999
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:20,880
 has discharged our water treatment plant solids to the sanitary sewer for ultimate treatment

1000
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,720
 and removal at the Pecan Creek wastewater treatment facility.

1001
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:29,960
 In about 2015, after the new phosphorus removal regulations, the discharge of the solids to

1002
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,600
 the wastewater plant became problematic and interfered with their process for phosphorus

1003
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,600
 removal.

1004
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:40,880
 They requested that we cease discharging solids and in 2017, we took steps to do that, installed

1005
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,760
 some additional pumps at the plant and began discharging our water treatment plant residuals

1006
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,080
 to the existing lagoon that's present on site.

1007
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:55,680
 The lagoon has finite capacity and we have been adding solids to it since 2017, knowing

1008
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:01,480
 that we would either have to routinely dewater the solids in the lagoon or come up with another

1009
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,480
 solution.

1010
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:08,920
 We have added a dewatering system at the plant.

1011
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:14,280
 Garver engineers were selected for that project and the ultimate design is a belt filter press

1012
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,520
 facility and some gravity thickeners to be installed at the plant.

1013
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:27,160
 Requests for bids were sent out and two bids were received, one being Archer Western.

1014
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:33,360
 The bid from Archer Western was $8.124 million and change, the two bids are actually very

1015
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,360
 close, they're within $70,000 each other.

1016
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,280
 Let's just know we at least had probably a good set of plans and competitive bidding

1017
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,160
 and the staff recommendation for that is to award the contract to Archer Western construction.

1018
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:51,280
 So the total is very close, but the pay items are not.

1019
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,280
 True.

1020
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,960
 So any explanation for that whatsoever?

1021
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,720
 I mean, I've seen a lot of bids and people think put money in different places.

1022
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:03,840
 Yeah, that's the only explanation we can have without having to dig into it, the two contractors

1023
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,720
 as they're trying to load their profit in one place or another.

1024
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,960
 Archer Western or Red River may have more expertise in one position or maybe using subs

1025
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,480
 in one place where they're wanting to add profit rather than the other.

1026
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,920
 This would love some, right?

1027
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,400
 Yes, I believe so.

1028
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,240
 Can I ask a question?

1029
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,240
 Yes, sir.

1030
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,240
 I'm just curious, what are the new phosphate regulations?

1031
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,720
 I don't have that information on me, but it's a wastewater treatment issue.

1032
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,520
 It's just to remove the phosphate from the ultimate discharge to Pecan Creek, reducing

1033
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,920
 the phosphate loads going to Lake Louisville.

1034
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,720
 Are there any primary sources that this comes from, fertilizer or?

1035
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,920
 Things like fertilizer, yes, are a source.

1036
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,920
 Thank you.

1037
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:51,920
 Sure.

1038
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:58,600
 There's no chance of eliminating the belt filter presses and dumps surveyor, is there?

1039
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,440
 To eliminate the belt filter press altogether?

1040
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,440
 Yes.

1041
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,800
 No, we have to have some means to dewater the sludge enough that we can haul it off and

1042
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:11,320
 we need to get it down to a nice dry cake rather than have it be heavy and wet.

1043
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,680
 The belt filter press one, we did a pretty exhaustive evaluation of different dewatering

1044
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,800
 technologies.

1045
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:22,000
 I was just trying to find an angle, what the angle is here for that to be such a lower

1046
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,280
 price than the other construction company.

1047
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,080
 Trust that you guys know what you're doing.

1048
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,040
 Has Archer Western done this before?

1049
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,280
 Yes, Archer Western is a very reputable well-known contractor in the water treatment industry

1050
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,680
 particularly.

1051
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,560
 This was within what we thought it was going to cost?

1052
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,560
 Correct.

1053
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,880
 I believe the engineer's estimate was around eight and a half, nine million.

1054
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,360
 That's what my memory said.

1055
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,360
 Yes.

1056
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,360
 It was a number.

1057
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,360
 All right.

1058
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,360
 Any other questions?

1059
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,800
 Do we have a motion to approve?

1060
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,960
 So moved.

1061
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,960
 Oh.

1062
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,240
 You'll be the second, okay.

1063
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,240
 Or second.

1064
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,240
 Yeah.

1065
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,400
 He raised his hand and you spoke.

1066
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,160
 We'll do Ed and then Charlie.

1067
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,160
 Okay.

1068
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,160
 All in favor say aye.

1069
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,160
 Aye.

1070
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,160
 Aye.

1071
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,160
 Aye.

1072
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,120
 Motion carries.

1073
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:25,120
 Consider recommending adoption of an ordinance establishing rates for water and water service

1074
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:35,240
 providing for repealer and providing a several clause that you can sever and providing for

1075
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240
 an effective date.

1076
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,680
 We're just seeking approval, I did have a presentation if you want to run through it

1077
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:50,400
 I'd be happy to otherwise we're looking just for approval today.

1078
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,400
 Presentation anyone?

1079
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,400
 New board members?

1080
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,400
 No.

1081
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,400
 Okay.

1082
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,400
 Do we have a motion to approve?

1083
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,400
 So moved.

1084
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,400
 Second.

1085
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,000
 All in favor say aye.

1086
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,000
 Aye.

1087
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,480
 All right.

1088
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,800
 Consider recommending adoption of an ordinance establishing the schedule of rates for wastewater

1089
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,080
 service providing for repealer same clause and an effective date.

1090
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,000
 I'm not going to try it twice.

1091
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,080
 Similar to water if anybody wants a presentation I'll have be happy to walk through it with

1092
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,080
 you.

1093
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,360
 Otherwise do we have a motion for approval?

1094
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,360
 I move.

1095
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,360
 We approve.

1096
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,360
 Second.

1097
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,360
 All in favor?

1098
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,360
 Say aye.

1099
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,360
 Aye.

1100
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,360
 Okay.

1101
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,880
 Then consider recommending the adoption for the rates for solid waste and recycling collection

1102
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,880
 service.

1103
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,120
 As you saw this presentation so moved approval.

1104
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,120
 All right.

1105
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,120
 Second.

1106
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,640
 All in favor say aye.

1107
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,640
 Aye.

1108
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,640
 Aye.

1109
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,640
 Motion carries.

1110
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,640
 All right.

1111
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,440
 Next item receive nominations to elect a vice chair.

1112
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,840
 So do we have any nominations for vice chair?

1113
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,440
 I'd like to nominate Billy Cheek.

1114
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,440
 Okay.

1115
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,560
 Do we have any other nominations?

1116
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:07,080
 Okay then we need a motion to approve his nomination so do we have a motion to approve

1117
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,400
 Billy's nomination?

1118
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,400
 Mr. Cheek's nomination.

1119
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,400
 Mr. Cheek.

1120
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,400
 I so move.

1121
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,400
 Board member Cheek.

1122
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,400
 I move.

1123
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,400
 We approve that.

1124
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,400
 Okay.

1125
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,400
 First of all Bruce.

1126
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,400
 Second.

1127
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,400
 All right.

1128
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,400
 All in favor say aye.

1129
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,400
 Aye.

1130
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,400
 All right.

1131
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560
 Welcome aboard.

1132
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,520
 Receive nominations to select a secretary and for the two new members you don't really

1133
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,000
 take minutes you just have to be the backup to the vice chair.

1134
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,440
 So it's if I'm gone and Mr. Cheek is gone somebody needs to run the meeting.

1135
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,440
 So nomination for that.

1136
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,440
 Anybody?

1137
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,440
 Any volunteers?

1138
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,440
 Any volunteers?

1139
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,440
 That'd be first.

1140
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:50,440
 It very rarely does it very rarely happens.

1141
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,720
 We did have a situation a couple of months ago where the chair and vice chair and we

1142
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,280
 had not elected a secretary in a while so in the moment we had to the board had to

1143
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:11,920
 nominate a chair and Ms. Bynum was was nominated for that for that day so just FYI.

1144
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:17,480
 So yeah in the last four years I think it happened once right so if anybody would like

1145
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,480
 to volunteer.

1146
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,480
 I'll volunteer.

1147
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,480
 Well thank you.

1148
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,280
 Well I'll nominate you.

1149
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:33,240
 So do we still I suppose we still need to motion to approve all right second all in

1150
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:42,000
 favor say aye aye aye thank you ACM update yes madam chair members of the board for the

1151
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:49,160
 new board members we provide the assistant city manager update ACM for short update what

1152
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,840
 it is is typically just memorandums or other pieces of correspondence that have gone to

1153
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,600
 the council that it may be pertinent to to the board it's intended to provide you all

1154
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,720
 with staff reports avoid to have to make presentations things that nature to get your get through

1155
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:10,200
 your agenda however this is tonight's is rather lengthy because we've had a number of items

1156
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,480
 we wanted to present to you those first two were actually action items that would have

1157
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,040
 been on your board agenda last time but we did not have a quorum so we had to cancel

1158
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,160
 a meeting so obviously there's no point of going through that process has already been

1159
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:29,000
 approved by council but we wanted to provide it to you just as a FYI for the board again

1160
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:34,980
 the other items are there for your for your your reading enjoyment if you have any questions

1161
01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:39,760
 we've got members of staff here that can answer specific questions about any of these reports

1162
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,880
 and then if you have items that you would like for follow-up we typically bring those

1163
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:49,120
 to you back in a as an ACM update just again to get your agenda moving and also just to

1164
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:54,160
 verify that for you and also for the record so if you have any questions for me or staff

1165
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,080
 would be happy to answer any of these questions regarding regarding these items and items

1166
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,640
 five and six was in response to uh brenda carroll's that's correct former board member

1167
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:11,720
 carroll uh had requested information regarding the city's recycling program and so again

1168
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:17,400
 uh with his departure um uh we weren't unable to get that on in time for him to be able

1169
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:23,080
 to review that but again it's it was been on the uh the new business matrix and so we

1170
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,600
 would like to present it to you all again if you have any questions be happy to answer

1171
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,940
 them then it also at least in staff's opinion fulfills the the request on the new business

1172
01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:38,000
 matrix and just kind of give you an idea when uh through um if you have follow-up items

1173
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,880
 and you would like to request out of staff uh we would go through that through concluding

1174
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,000
 items we put on a new business matrix try to give you all uh an understanding of when

1175
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,280
 we would be able to present that information either through a work session or through the

1176
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,000
 ACM update and that way you can you can at least be a prize of that information from

1177
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:03,680
 staff i have a comment a question i was looking through the recycling powerpoint and i saw

1178
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:13,680
 that the uh i guess it was the mixed use paper uh revenue was 56 dollars in change per ton

1179
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:21,280
 couple years ago and it dropped to seven dollars a ton in the last in at least on the slide

1180
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:31,440
 your powerpoint slide have you got a feel for what's going on there yes he does

1181
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,680
 with that drop the city is really fortunate there's a thing that's happened in the past

1182
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:43,000
 couple of years called the national sword prior to about beginning of 2017 probably

1183
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,440
 eighty percent of all recyclables uh in the united states of america was actually shipped

1184
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,860
 to china and into the asian countries for processing they were they were basically taking

1185
01:05:52,860 --> 01:05:57,120
 in as raw materials and then processing it and making new materials out of it however

1186
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,600
 in 2017 they did a couple things happen first of all they had they were overwhelmed by the

1187
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,400
 amount of recyclables that were sent there but second of all probably 50 percent of everything

1188
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,560
 that was sent was actually garbage and in a measure to control waste and to basically

1189
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,560
 heat garbage in the united states they they closed their borders with their their national

1190
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:24,520
 sword as a result all recycled cost or the value of all recyclables in the united states

1191
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:32,720
 of america have dropped tremendously which means that the our our responsibility to increase

1192
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,800
 the quality of the recyclable material that we collect curb size extremely important in

1193
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,960
 my previous presentation i talked about how you know less than eight percent contamination

1194
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:48,100
 that is that is wonderful because that means that that the value of that material is just

1195
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:53,280
 tremendously more valuable than than something that would have come in on off of a load and

1196
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,680
 as a result of the glut in the market in the united states right now because there's just

1197
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,360
 so much paper out there you know so the law of supply and demand there's too much supply

1198
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:07,800
 so or this and not enough demand so the cost really drops right now so that's whether it

1199
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:13,920
 be mixed paper whether it be cardboard whether it be plastics whether it be glass it's falling

1200
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,280
 right now we actually still get paid for the recyclables we collect curbside most cities

1201
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:23,640
 right now are re-evaluating the recycling contracts because they're going up many in

1202
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,200
 the east and northeast and some on the west coast have actually stopped collecting recyclables

1203
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:35,000
 just because it's it's costing so much right now the anticipated cost if we were to bid

1204
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,080
 out our contract again we would actually be paying a processor 95 dollars a ton to manage

1205
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:48,520
 that material some places up in the northeast it's 350 up to 400 dollars a ton to manage

1206
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,760
 it's a tough one it is a tough one and that's one reason why we focus on cleanliness and

1207
01:07:52,760 --> 01:08:00,440
 compliance with our program material but pratt also uses the pratt uses our recycled paper

1208
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,160
 yes yeah and that and that's really one of our saving grace for lack of a better term

1209
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,720
 because pratt is the paper market in north america and because they are so closely tied

1210
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:13,560
 with the city of dentons program they they need our paper they need our fiber so it's

1211
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:18,440
 a very very good relationship that we have with them on the fiber but still from a market

1212
01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:25,040
 standpoint that the prices are extremely depressed but there's hope that we're starting to do

1213
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:32,600
 our own here in the united our own recycling we have our own in in market processors here

1214
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,720
 in the united state that is correct and there's developments going on and there's currently

1215
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,880
 between what the state of texas did the last legislative session and some things that are

1216
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,440
 happening at the epa level right now they're actually trying to spin up some additional

1217
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:50,040
 markets related to the the reuse of plastics so next couple of years there's gonna be a

1218
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,560
 couple studies out and i think it will really help as we approach when our contract comes

1219
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:01,360
 up in in about six years and hopefully we'll be back on really good feet and and it the

1220
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:08,240
 cost differential won't affect us at that time i have a question about multi-family

1221
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:14,240
 yes cycling i was looking at this backup material and i see where the committee on the environment

1222
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:20,720
 one of their recommendations was to evaluate the implementation of mandatory rather than

1223
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,440
 voluntary multifamily has there been any movement in that direction not specifically what we

1224
01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:33,160
 are proposing to do is to uh excuse me is to go and actually look at this the the city

1225
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,660
 wide our entire comprehensive solid waste management plan and actually you know looking

1226
01:09:37,660 --> 01:09:41,280
 at both what we're doing residentially as well as commercially and from a multifamily

1227
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:48,560
 standpoint and from that standpoint you know moving forward to to more holistically manage

1228
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:53,000
 the waste that we have instead of individual programs as we're looking at them now thank

1229
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:12,960
 you all right i have a question on the denton energy center dashboard is it okay

1230
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:21,880
 i see a number on the dashboard of 2.44 million projected loss for 2018 19 is that right uh

1231
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:29,360
 yes sir terry nalte assistant general manager for the month of june that's showing uh or

1232
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:36,760
 i'm sorry through the end of june that was a negative two million dollar net income number

1233
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:44,400
 now we have done much better obviously in the last several weeks with july july was

1234
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:52,080
 actually a very bad month for us very mild weather uh but august has been a record month

1235
01:10:52,080 --> 01:11:00,200
 for us with uh significant revenues and gross margins produced because of very high temperatures

1236
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:06,640
 and very high prices i do have uh some data i can show you on that but you have to bear

1237
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:12,960
 with me a second i can bear terry i'd be careful uh going out too far outside the agenda too

1238
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:18,080
 far outside the agenda if you would like to provide something as a as a acm update for

1239
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,960
 a future board meeting it's just because the way this item was posted is absolutely something

1240
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,960
 in the past not for something in the future or current yeah apologize actually i think

1241
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,520
 that would be a really good we're going to have four new board members i think that would

1242
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:37,720
 be really good to have some of these things kind of an education process right so the

1243
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:48,320
 thing i'll add is that you know uh the deck as a as a generation resource is uh is dispatched

1244
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:55,240
 based upon the market price of energy and so as as the market price of energy is higher

1245
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:03,760
 the deck uh dispatches more and more and uh through june although we were showing a negative

1246
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:10,800
 uh two million dollar net income we were actually right on budget through june um all of our

1247
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,600
 money most of the money that we make from the deck or the margin that we generate from

1248
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,080
 the deck comes in july and august during the hot the very hot months where we have the

1249
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:31,520
 highest prices okay all right thank you and then our final item oh go ahead one more comment

1250
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,480
 oh sure when i when i look at item number one and a i c s and try to delve into it it

1251
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:51,080
 looks a lot like item number two we attached all the hazen and stuff item number one oh

1252
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:57,120
 it was duplicate yeah we can fix that yeah just yeah yeah not that i'm going to read

1253
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:11,400
 all hundred how many pages okay then our final item is uh eminent domain good evening madam

1254
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:21,920
 chair and pub i'm diana cody deputy director of capital projects and real estate and tonight

1255
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:32,280
 i have for you um the hickory creek sanitary sewer interceptor project phases one and two

1256
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:41,920
 this is a location map that shows that um the properties are located in between um let's

1257
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:53,400
 go back 377 and 35 and with anticipated growth in southwest portion of the city it's necessary

1258
01:13:53,400 --> 01:14:00,480
 to complete the installation of uh the hickory creek sanitary sewer interceptor there are

1259
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:07,800
 about four property owners that are being impacted on the project and um we're approaching

1260
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:14,280
 them for permanent and temporary easements that are needed for the installation so if

1261
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,280
 if a favorable recommendation from the pub is received today this item will go before

1262
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,160
 city council tomorrow to consider approval to authorize the city manager and the city

1263
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:28,760
 attorney or their designees to acquire the property interest by agreement including making

1264
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,800
 all offers required by law and to authorize the city attorney or his designee to file

1265
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:41,360
 imminent domain proceedings if necessary and to authorize the expenditure of funds therefore

1266
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:53,440
 and to provide for the chair's favorite word severability and to provide an effective date

1267
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:59,000
 so this is just an exhibit to the actual ordinance that will be presented tomorrow that identifies

1268
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:11,680
 the properties um the location and the property owners any questions so really what we're

1269
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:17,200
 we're just establishing it so that we can move forward yes okay it's to provide a recommendation

1270
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,640
 it's not going to eminent domain it's starting down the entire process no no no it's authorizing

1271
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:27,920
 the acquisitions and discussion yes and discussion just making it clear how often has the city

1272
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:36,880
 gone to eminent donate domain for easements like this small parcels uh it happens on occasion

1273
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:43,400
 um generally speaking we're able to negotiate acquisitions and so easements we don't often

1274
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:48,720
 end up in eminent domain it's a very small percentage of the time that that happens and

1275
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,040
 you need this to even start those discussions we've started the discussions with the property

1276
01:15:53,040 --> 01:16:00,000
 owners the negotiations yes all right do you know if there are any uh private improvements

1277
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:07,320
 on the land that you're seeking to have an easement for off the top of my head i can't

1278
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:12,960
 say with certainty i think the majority of the properties are raw land vacant land if

1279
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:18,280
 you'll see one of them one of the property owners says 195 dentin partners it's owned

1280
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:23,560
 by 195 dentin partners they own 195 acres so there's not a whole heck of a lot out there

1281
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:32,200
 yeah a lot of floodplain yeah a lot of floodplains a lot in the floodplain all right okay thank

1282
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:43,800
 you do we have a motion so moved all in favor say aye aye motion carries okay concluding

1283
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:50,560
 items uh there any item that a board member would wish to have on the future agenda like

1284
01:16:50,560 --> 01:17:00,280
 the the deck and the environmental concerns or okay we uh i missed an opportunity to comment

1285
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:07,480
 on something but that's okay i'm new here um the in the purchasing process i know there's

1286
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:15,120
 a normally written into the conditions we have an opportunity to audit vendors and particularly

1287
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:23,160
 the one that's doing the billing i wondered uh if we had ever audited that process in

1288
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:31,120
 the past uh to check to see that the amount uh that we know is billed is actually being

1289
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:37,800
 sent out and how that matches with what's coming back and so forth and that can add

1290
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:44,120
 that to the new business to the new business matrix and report back if i'm might clarify

1291
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:51,680
 what you said about the environmental i think um what i would like when it's available obviously

1292
01:17:51,680 --> 01:18:02,080
 uh any developments with mandatory multi-family recycling that moves is that moves along just

1293
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:09,520
 so we can see if it's positive or negative whatever thank you just a question do you

1294
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:18,120
 please still do board member orientations doesn't seem we have a new city secretary

1295
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:23,080
 and they are looking at revamping the boards of procedures for board members and it was

1296
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:28,280
 really helpful when i did it a long time ago me too okay you brought in an hour with different

1297
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,800
 department heads and just got to ask questions sure we can pass that information on

1298
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:40,400
 all right any other items well we are going to be saying goodbye to two of our board members

1299
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:49,160
 tonight both charlie and lilia are it's our last meeting thank you for serving i was surprised

1300
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:56,840
 lilia how many years now uh i've been on the board for since 2012 so that's what seven

1301
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:03,320
 years yeah so you almost turned out yeah yeah about seven years but charlie i did want to

1302
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:09,040
 say if you don't mind that um that thank you for allowing me to serve i have really enjoyed

1303
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:15,200
 serving on this board i was appointed by kevin rodin and i've enjoyed learning all about

1304
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:20,240
 dm e and the water and wastewater department and the solid waste department and going on

1305
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,400
 tours i've been on two tours of the and if you haven't been on a tour yet you really

1306
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:30,080
 need to go because it's it'll make you very proud of where of how far we've come and where

1307
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:38,920
 we stand in in in texas um some incredibly dedicated people who are on staff here working

1308
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:44,560
 for the city they've been very patient very respectful and very thorough in answering

1309
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:50,640
 my questions and i appreciate the hard work and the sacrifices that they make in service

1310
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:55,200
 to the people of denton and like i said i've enjoyed meeting and working with good people

1311
01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,960
 on the pub board um i'm glad that i was able to work with billy again because we had worked

1312
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:06,920
 together before on this board and uh i've enjoyed being a volunteer for the better part

1313
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:13,960
 of my life and i will continue to do so and um thanks again for the opportunity it was

1314
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:24,320
 it was wonderful thank you are you just gonna wait okay how can you follow that right you

1315
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:31,920
 know it's been interesting in times and it's been a hoot and it's been a hoot okay all

1316
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:38,320
 right we have a motion to adjourn all right we're adjourned