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 Good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the plan and zoning commission session work session

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 for August 21st 2019. I'll call this meeting to order at 434. We do have a quorum but with that we

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 do have the following commissioners absent at the start of the meeting. Commissioner Cole,

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 Commissioner Sanchez, and Commissioner Prunetta. This evening for the way the workflow is going to

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 go with the agenda is we're going to skip to 2a first. That will be the report from Roman McAllen.

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 After 2a we'll jump into the clarification of agenda items item one and then after one we'll

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 jump back to 2b. So for the first item for this evening I'll invite Roman McAllen for presentation

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 for the 2019 historic preservation plan. Thank you commissioners. I'm Roman McAllen, the historic

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 preservation officer for the city of Denton. This work session is about the draft historic

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 preservation plan that's been worked on since about October of last year and with us we have

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 visiting from Chicago Nick and I'll let you let him tell you his last name and Siraj are here

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 and really I'm just here to introduce them and let them go through the parts of the plans of Nick right here.

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 Good evening. Well thank you Roman. He has tried to pronounce my name a couple of times this past week.

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 It's Kallo Jerisus and I'm with the Lakota group and I'm here with my colleague Siraj Asfahani.

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 As Roman has mentioned we've been working with him and members of the community to

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 prepare a historic preservation plan and today we'll give you an overview of that plan and what's

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 inside it. It's been our pleasure to work with the community on this. This Denton has had a great

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 history in preservation. He's done quite a lot of great work and we'll talk about that in a moment.

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 So it's been a really interesting process as we've gone through. As Roman said we've been

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 working on this since last October and first of all a historic preservation plan it's like

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 a comprehensive plan or a downtown plan. It's a policy document. Basically it provides some

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 strategic directions for the community in terms of how to improve and enhance the historic

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 preservation program. There are many communities out there that have a municipal historic preservation

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 program and they develop historic preservation plans in order to give them some guidance.

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 Just to give you some background, many communities have started their preservation

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 program back in the 70s. The reason for that is in 1966 the U.S. Congress established

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 the National Register of Historic Places which is the nation's official list of buildings,

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 sites, structures worthy of preservation and so that began kind of the modern preservation

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 movement although there are many communities around the country that have done preservation

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 for a heck of a lot longer than the 60s. But the National Register gave impetus for communities to

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 look at their architecture, look at their neighborhoods and find out what's significant

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 architecturally and historically and to designate those as districts or landmarks.

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 So to give you a little bit more background some of you I'm sure are familiar the National Register

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 it's a federal level designation it's an honorary one there are no restrictions to that. Probably

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 the primary benefit of having a National Register district is that income producing and commercial

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 properties are eligible for federal tax credits also state tax credits as well so it provides an

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 incentive for those types of properties for to encourage rehabilitation and reinvestment in those

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 buildings but primarily it's it's honorary. Local communities however can establish local historic

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 districts and that's where you can have the latitude to regulate what happens to curate what

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 happens in those areas to manage them to maintain their integrity and authenticity over the long term.

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 So Denton has both of those you do have National Register districts and you have local historic

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 districts. So just to give you a background so really kind of officially the preservation movement

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 started here in Denton with the county when the Denton County Courthouse was the first property

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 in the community listed in the National Register of Historic Places so back in 1977 and then in 1980

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 the the city followed up with adopting a historic preservation ordinance which I'm sure you're

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 familiar with that is the tool that communities use to establish local districts is to have a

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 local preservation ordinance. In 1985 is when the last historic preservation plan was adopted

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 here in the community so it is a little bit overdue for a look and re-examine re-examination.

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 Many communities during the 70s and 80s adopted historic preservation plans and they really kind

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 of looked at their very significant buildings like a courthouse or a famous mansion associated with

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 a famous merchant so you looked at those real high style properties and so that's what we looked back

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 in the 70s and 80s. So back then we were looking at properties mainly developed before 1930 or 1940

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 because the National Register of Historic Places is its baseline evaluation criteria any property

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 over 50 years old is considered historic so that's kind of a baseline evaluation criteria.

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 So now that time has moved on and it's almost 2020 and I myself I'm National Register eligible

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 myself time has moved on so now we're looking at the 1950s and 60s and what's significant during

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 that time period so as I present we'll talk about that those types of resources here and then.

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 So then moving on from 1985-1986 the very first local historic district was established the Oak

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 Hickory Local Historic District. In 1989 the the city became a certified local government

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 and that is a designation that's given by the Texas Historical Commission and the National Park

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 Service. It's a designation for communities that have adopted a local historic preservation ordinance

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 have done surveying established districts but the primary benefit of that is it allows you to

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 access grants to do preservation projects and this preservation plan is partially funded through a

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 certified local government grant from the Texas Historical Commission. So and then in 2000 the

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 the downtown it's called the Denton County Courthouse on the square but it's basically the

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 the entire square area was listed in the National Register of Historic Places and then the in 2008

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 the West Oak Local Area Historic District was designated. I do like to point out in 2014 your

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 mainstream your mainstream program reached 25 years in operation. I point that out because

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 not many communities have had mainstream programs that lasted that long so that's quite an

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 accomplishment for this city to have a real successful program that's that's been around

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 and doing good things and then last but not least your latest historic district is the

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 Bella Avenue Historic District obviously that originally was a conservation district and now

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 it's a historic district. So overall over you know since 1980 you've designated 62 local landmarks

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 you have three local historic districts you have two districts listed in the National Register and

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 then you have four buildings individually listed in the National Register. So it's been a good

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 amount of work for the community and I think a very successful good program so this plan hopes

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 to build on that success overall. I do also I forgot to mention that this preservation plan was

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 also recommended in your Denton 2030 plan as an implementation measure. It was a specific

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 recommendation to update your historic preservation plan so you are achieving a part of your comprehensive

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 plan. So what is a historic preservation plan? As I said it's a policy document. We are doing

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 several things with the plan one is obviously to look at future historic districts where they may be

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 where there are future landmarks as well. How do we continue the strong work of your your mainstream

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 program and look at how to do preservation based economic development because historic preservation

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 does generate new jobs and you reinvest in existing buildings. It is probably in my opinion the most

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 effective sustainability strategy you could have because you're not demolishing buildings and

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 putting it into a landfill. You're saving and reusing them so it's the ultimate recycling program

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 in my opinion. Commissioner Beck has a question. Thank you Chair. Can you distinguish for us the

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 difference between historic and conservation districts? What's what's the difference is there?

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 There is there is a difference. There is a difference in level of design review

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 that the Historic Landmark Commission does. Typically in many Texas communities a conservation

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 district may be an area that not necessarily qualifies as a national register or local

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 historic district because it may not have the fabric the authenticity there the level of

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 integrity that needs to be there but you want to be able to sort of maintain and sort of manage

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 that area and encourage good design. There may be a need for infill development to happen and you

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 want to make sure that that infill development is is appropriate well scaled to that neighborhood.

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 So it's it's certainly for areas that may not meet that threshold as a historic district but it may

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 be an area where you want to manage to make sure it maintains some design quality. There may be some

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 relationship there to historical events or buildings nearby or something like that. Exactly. Okay okay

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 thank you. For clarification and this might be for a moment we have converted all of our

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 conservations to historic and we've phased out the conservation kind of designation in town.

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 Well let me just clarify we did you know we had the Bell Avenue Conservation was now a historic

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 district but what's important too is we went back to the code with that recent revision

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 and we changed the level of review that you would have so we can now still create districts

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 but if the way we've worded it if you have a demolition in that district or new construction

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 then you would go to the Landmark Commission but anything else at all would be reviewed by staff.

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 So it's a tool that could be used you know for example and I think this is something we need to

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 get clarification on but that new bill that came through this last legislative session about

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 materials regulation some I think that bill allows you to create a conservation district anywhere you

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 want and then regulate materials but that's been there's some people see it the other way in fact

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 we needed to get an opinion from the AG's office at some point but for us locally it's nice because

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 we didn't have that before. The historic district language and the conservation district language

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 were virtually identical. Gotcha thanks for that clarification. Sure thank you. Any other questions?

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 So just to continue on in a preservation plan we also look at how your programs managed and

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 ministered and so a lot of the questions we have right now in terms of design review and

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 how conservation districts work. We want to evaluate make sure that that's working for the

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 community and it's effective and then last but not least it's about education and advocacy it's

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 always about trying to educate the community about the benefits of historic preservation and what it

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 can do so that's always an ongoing need and so we look at other partners that could help us do that

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 so it could be you know the Denton County Office of History and Culture it could be other partners

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 we could bring in to help us educate those additional stakeholders about the benefits.

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 So the the plan itself this is how it's organized. Actually the plan part of it is at the very

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 beginning. We have a series of goals and policy statements. There's actually just four major

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 goals in the document and about 32 recommendations in there so it's at the very front. We also have an

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 implementation section about which party is responsible to implement what and time frames.

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 We also have a funding section in there so there's other funding opportunities beyond just

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 certified local government grants and then we also have a section in there about the different

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 historic resources that are here in Denton just to give a description of what's significant here

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 locally and then we have a section on city planning policies you know we did review some

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 of your prior plans and to see where preservation fits in and then we have a section in there on

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 community engagement and I'll talk more about that and then there's a series of appendices

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 that are just background information. So that's basically the structure of the historic preservation

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 plan. There were just two phases to this project. We started back in October. We had a series of

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 listening sessions with stakeholders to find out their concerns and their ideas about historic

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 preservation locally. We also had a community workshop and then we produced sort of a state

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 of the city report which gave a summary of existing conditions last March and then we're

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 here now we're finishing up the the second phase which is providing this draft historic preservation

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 plan. We did have a second community meeting back in June to present some of these ideas to the

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 broader community. We also had an online survey a couple of online surveys and I'll talk about that

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 in a moment. I'm not going to go into too great detail of the slide but generally when we prepare

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 preservation plans there are kind of three standards that we follow and these standards

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 were prepared by the US Department of the Interior and these are preservation standards that we try

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 to follow in developing our work. The first standard is preservation plans are based on

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 historic context and what that means is that a historic context is generally periods of history

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 in the community's development and so I mentioned a moment ago we're now looking at the 1950s and

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 60s as areas to look at. In many communities the 50s and 60s were important because that was a

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 period right after World War II when servicemen were coming back the GI Bill was in place but

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 there was also a period in there was a housing shortage generally but that's the period where

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 the first modern developers came about and built big large-scale subdivisions and so that's a

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 period of history we need to look at so that's a historic context. So we develop the plan includes

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 a description of different historic contexts the development of the universities another one the

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 African-American community experience here in Dent and so those are historic contexts and once

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 we identify those we try to find out what properties and and buildings are out there that kind of

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 represent those those context periods and then we develop a set of goals and priorities around

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 around those resources and so that's really kind of the the first two standards. The third standard

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 is to integrate historic preservation or broader planning operations here at the city so when we

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 look at city planning we're trying to make sure that we incorporate historic preservation as much

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 as possible. Going back to the community engagement as I mentioned we had a series of meetings and

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 workshops we had two community workshops during this process the stakeholder interview sessions

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 we had 45 participants in that representing a wide range of stakeholders from downtown property

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 owners to neighborhood residents and then we had two online surveys and we had 400 plus people

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 respond to the online surveys so it was a really good response and we asked questions basically

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 what do you think's important here to preserve what tools should be put in place so those were the

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 those were the big things that came out. I already went over much of this but like I said the plan

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 includes four goal statements 32 recommendations and they revolve around four areas surveying

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 documentation education advocacy community development sustainability and then program

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 administration so I'm just going to give you the the big highlights out of the plan.

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 To have an effective community preservation program we kind of think that there's these are the four

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 key areas you need to really work on and if you do these four areas well you have a really well

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 functioning program. The first thing is survey and documentation so this goes back to the discussion

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 of historic context so once you identify historic context you got to find out what areas of the

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 community does that context represent and we need to identify resources that are important so you

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 have to do a series of surveys to be able to identify those properties so in the past I know

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 15 years or so there's been three three main surveys done since 96 so three surveys that have

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 been done or that have identified buildings and some of those have become landmarks and districts

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 but we need to continue to do that survey work so we can identify those areas so in a moment I'll

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 show you a map where we think some future survey areas could be. The second part is having incentives

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 in place because you want to encourage the private sector to participate in preservation

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 if you want to encourage them to rehab the building it's always good to have an incentive

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 in place to make that happen so there are a number of incentives that are available here in Denton

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 I'll talk about a couple of them in a moment but it's really important to have that that care to

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 encourage reinvestment. The third part is administration so having the city being able

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 to administer the whole process of landmarking identifying landmarking buildings and things

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 and then last the education and advocacy part. So for the first thing on survey survey and

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 documentation our plan we did identify seven future survey areas and so on the map here

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 in blue are potential survey areas now we're not telling you to go out tomorrow to do all seven of

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 them these are areas to look at down the road you can secure additional certified local government

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 grants to probably undertake these surveys as have done and have been done recently but we

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 think these are areas that are worth looking at because you might be able to find additional

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 landmarks or districts and as you know it on the map there are probably there are several areas

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 that were built in the 50s and 60s and we think these are areas worth looking at they could be

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 districts there they could be conservation districts so we don't know but it's really

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 important to go out and be able to identify those so our plan does prioritize these survey areas and

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 we think some should be done first versus others. The areas in red are what we think are potential

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 national register historic districts two of them are two of your existing local districts the oak

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 hickory and the west oak historic districts we think that they can become national register

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 districts and then recently the idiots hill neighborhood was surveyed that survey identified

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 five i think four or five national registered districts but we think you could probably just

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 get one in that neighborhood you don't need to do probably do five different ones but just one big

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 one so the areas in red are potential national registered districts we do recommend an expansion

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 of the oak hickory local historic district to the south one half block to the south of that

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 district to capture some properties we believe kind of belong in the district and we're not sure

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 why they were left out but we think they're they're worth taking a look at including them we do

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 identify five potential historic conservation districts these are areas where previous surveys

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 have identified them as conservation districts so we kind of reaffirmed some of those past

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 recommendations and last but not least there's another level of designation out there i'm sure

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 you're familiar with it's the texas recorded landmarks this is a designation by the state

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 and there are several recorded texas landmarks already in den we do recommend eight more of those

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 one of them we're standing in right now city hall we think is probably eligible to be a texas

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 landmark so so those are things to look at and i've already mentioned many of these and again

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 this goes to post world war ii development there are areas and it's kind of hard to sell mid-century

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 and ranch development sometimes is historic but they are and there are a number of cities here

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 in texas that have already designated mid-century neighborhoods as national register districts so

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 it's happening already in houston and in tyler and i think in dallas as well so these are areas to

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 look at so the post world war ii the styled ranches mid-century building types there are

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 probably two or three o'neill four buildings that are probably should be city landmarks out there so

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 we do identify those as well there are also some smaller scale industrial buildings but there's

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 one big industrial building that we think should be a local landmark so there's some smaller scale

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 industrial buildings to look at then the african-american experience in denton one of our

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 recommendations in the plan is to develop a complete context statement for the african-american

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 experience or locally there's a lot of research and writings already about the history here but

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 we think that that probably should be gathered a little bit more into one definitive context

00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:32.800
 statement and then we do recommending do recommend surveying the southeast side to be able to identify

00:22:32.800 --> 00:22:38.560
 more buildings and landmarks that relate to that context and then we do talk about the historic

00:22:38.560 --> 00:22:43.360
 signs we did notice there's a few historic signs here in denton that are worthy of maybe some

00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:49.840
 protection and again that relates the morrison milling building company so that might be a good

00:22:49.840 --> 00:22:57.440
 one to start with so we do in the plan we do talk about community development we do have a few

00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:03.120
 recommendations and incentives additional centers for the city to look at one of them is to

00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:09.280
 potentially expand the tax abatement program to all contributing buildings in local districts

00:23:09.280 --> 00:23:13.600
 because right now only city landmarks are eligible to use that that incentive program

00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:19.120
 and it's something to look at it may be able to encourage more investment into your into your

00:23:19.120 --> 00:23:24.080
 residential areas or encourage more people to to do improvement so we think that's

00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:31.200
 worth taking a look at we also recommend taking a look at some targeted adaptive use opportunities

00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:36.560
 and it really kind of relates to your downtown there are probably just a handful of buildings

00:23:36.560 --> 00:23:41.440
 where we think you could probably target some some incentives to encourage some building

00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:48.400
 rehabilitations to happen so there are a number of communities that have adapted i mean not adapted

00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:55.440
 but have adopted adaptive use ordinances and that allows for sometimes for expedited development

00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:01.680
 review or permit fee waivers or things like that in order to encourage some of that rehab activity

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:08.080
 to happen and then last but not least we do we do talk about disaster mitigation for historical

00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:13.520
 resources being able to provide some information pieces to property owners about disaster mitigation

00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:18.240
 we also have recommendations in there about heritage tourism about trying to

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:24.240
 encourage your cvb and other partners to do a little bit more in the marketing end of that

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:31.360
 to market your heritage resources a bit more and then to promote the the adoption of a cultural

00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:36.480
 district in your downtown as well commissioner smith major oh i'm sorry what kind of partnerships

00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.560
 do you see with other cities doing this when you get involved when you say partnerships what does

00:24:40.560 --> 00:24:47.520
 that look like you flush that out for me a little bit in terms of uh well i think um i think uh you

00:24:47.520 --> 00:24:53.760
 know in terms of the heritage tourism aspect i think there could be more collaboration between

00:24:53.760 --> 00:25:00.800
 the city the cvb maybe the denton county office of history and culture in your main shoe program to

00:25:00.800 --> 00:25:06.800
 try to do maybe market the heritage assets a bit more i think there's probably a little bit more

00:25:06.800 --> 00:25:15.360
 that could happen in that in that regard gotcha so thanks yeah thank you okay moving on um in terms

00:25:15.360 --> 00:25:21.760
 of program administration again this this relates to what the city does now administers its program

00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:27.920
 we do recommend a development of a city-wide design manual or city-wide design guidelines manual

00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:33.280
 and it's mainly meant to be an educational resource for local property owners if they

00:25:33.280 --> 00:25:37.840
 want to undertake a rehab project in their house that they could have a publication they could go

00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:44.720
 to and get some uh information about how to do things it would be really helpful um that they

00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:49.680
 could have this information as they plan their projects out and then when they go and go to

00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:54.000
 enrollment in front of the historic landmarks commission they uh can have a project that's

00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:59.120
 ready and meets the requirements for the design review so we think that that would be a very

00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:06.720
 helpful publication to have um our the draft plan also has a section in there on sustainability

00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:12.800
 guidelines for historic buildings um that is an increasing interest nationwide how do you incorporate

00:26:12.800 --> 00:26:18.880
 energy efficiency alternative energy systems in historic buildings and so we included a section

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:24.000
 in there in the hopes that someday when you do develop a design guidelines or a design manual

00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:29.840
 that you can incorporate that information in there um we also recommend an additional tool in the

00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:35.600
 historic preservation ordinance once it's called a demolition delay ordinance um or a demolition

00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:41.600
 delay provision uh there uh dallas fort worth many other communities in texas have this in their

00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:48.880
 ordinance and it allows you to delay a demolition of a property that may be may have been identified

00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:54.960
 as significant through a survey but it's not designated as a local landmark or or it's not

00:26:54.960 --> 00:27:01.040
 included in the local district so it's just an additional tool to have so if a property is in

00:27:01.040 --> 00:27:06.560
 danger or it's being scheduled for demolition you could have some time to work with a property owner

00:27:06.560 --> 00:27:13.120
 on devising an alternative solution to demolition yes commissioner smith hey chair what are those

00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:18.640
 ordinances look like when there's a building those demolition delays is it a is it a citizen

00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:24.400
 petition referendum submitted to the city council is it a something that the city has power to go

00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.040
 in there and use what have you seen your path in the past for those types of ordinances how they're

00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:34.880
 formed sure it's usually incorporated within your historic preservation code within within the code

00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:39.760
 within your dentin development code it's included within the historic preservation section and

00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:44.400
 basically it all you would state and this is this would be up to the community how you would

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:49.920
 structure it you would it would only apply to buildings that have been surveyed so those areas

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.080
 that we've we've mapped out there i guess that's what i was gonna say is what what communities have

00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:58.240
 you seen who has it in their have it in there now what kind of procedures do they have currently in

00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:04.880
 that ordinance well in fort worth they uh in fort worth they have different levels of demolition

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:11.920
 delay so for fort worth that they have gone into an area and they've surveyed it it's for all the

00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.600
 properties you've surveyed so in those surveys if you identified highly significant property it's

00:28:17.600 --> 00:28:22.080
 eligible for the national register it's eligible for local landmark and they're subject to maybe a

00:28:22.080 --> 00:28:27.120
 90 day delay so if a property owner wanted or somebody wanted to come in and take that building

00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:33.040
 out that demolition would be delayed for 90 days and so that would have no matter what there's not

00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:38.000
 a citizen citizens don't have to step in and say something they automatically gets delayed correct

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:46.720
 and then the the delay time period goes down by significance so if you have a survey and it

00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:51.440
 only identifies as a property is potentially contributing to a district then it may be a 30

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:58.320
 day delay okay cool thank you sure and then uh the other recommended major recommendation we have

00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:03.840
 is any future clg grants that you secure it would be good to try to use those to designate more

00:29:03.840 --> 00:29:09.360
 districts national register districts and we think that would be a good use of that money um now that

00:29:09.360 --> 00:29:14.320
 you've done a plan you don't need to do another one so we'd rather see you use those monies to get

00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:21.200
 more districts and nominated um and then education and advocacy we have many different recommendations

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.960
 on that and this is where there could be more potential collaboration for between different

00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:31.760
 partners one recommendation we have is to develop an online portal a digital portal for survey

00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:37.840
 information so if i was a property owner and i bought a building somewhere in dentin i want to

00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:43.200
 find it find out if it's been surveyed or if it has any information on the history of the building

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:49.120
 i can go online click on a map click my property and what would pop up would be an information

00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:56.320
 sheet the survey information sheet so we see many communities putting that online as just an

00:29:56.320 --> 00:30:02.960
 information resource for property owners we do recommend expanding partnerships with the county

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:08.160
 they have a number of programs we did have a nice interview session with them they have a number of

00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.520
 programs we think that you can partner with and then providing some more hands-on preservation

00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:18.720
 learning workshops an opportunity for property owners to understand what what they can or cannot

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:26.080
 do to their buildings in san antonio texas for instance they have twice a year a hands-on workshop

00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:32.160
 on how to restore historic windows so it's just it's just an opportunity for people to learn more

00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.760
 about what they can do with their buildings and last but not least there is an implementation

00:30:37.760 --> 00:30:43.920
 section in the plan we have a chart near that gives timelines for for certain activities who

00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:48.880
 could be potential partners and then what are the other funding sources that are out there to do

00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:56.640
 things and then last but not least there are many benefits to preservation you know it's it's

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.520
 certainly preservation has had a significant impact here in the community we think it could

00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:08.080
 it could have more but i think the plan really kind of stresses preservation as a sustainability

00:31:08.080 --> 00:31:13.840
 strategy that that did come out in your dentin 2030 plan and we wanted sort of to continue that

00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:22.160
 that emphasis so so that's it and then i guess the next steps uh if you want to comment on next steps

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:28.480
 we had done a little bit of a delay and we meant for this plan to be an attachment in this

00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:34.960
 agenda but we'll have it i believe we determined by next friday in the friday report it'll go out

00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:41.360
 if not sooner to y'all directly we can do that and then we're going to come back here in this

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:48.560
 order hlc september 9th that'll be myself and i'll be here on that final presentation asking

00:31:48.560 --> 00:31:52.800
 for your recommendation to city council where you guys will be these guys will be back to

00:31:52.800 --> 00:31:58.480
 present it to city council mr beck thank you chair thanks roman and thank you sir

00:31:59.840 --> 00:32:05.760
 because i have a hard time with your name too um we we seem to talk mainly about buildings but

00:32:05.760 --> 00:32:13.040
 nothing was mentioned about things like landmarks just maybe a wall a stone wall or something like

00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:19.360
 that is that incorporated into what we're trying to preserve here those type of things well not

00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:24.080
 that i can think of any offhand but no there are the you know there's there's the landmarks and

00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:29.120
 there's the trees issue which we have the current code that we have the current code says that we'll

00:32:29.120 --> 00:32:35.440
 use our landmark designation process to designate trees but we haven't actually refined that down

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:41.840
 because when we do a landmark we landmark a plot of land and with the trees how do you do it and

00:32:41.840 --> 00:32:46.640
 i think you probably come up with the same kind of challenge on how to do a land a specific

00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:52.400
 there's one do you think i want specifically well in a way i guess it is kind of a building i went

00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.920
 out with jason cole on his property a couple weeks back and there is an old building out there that's

00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:03.600
 gutted that was part of his family turn of the century type stuff where they kept things and

00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:12.080
 it's got some stone walls the building itself and just that general area has some historical

00:33:12.080 --> 00:33:17.440
 significance we're fixing to develop well not fixing to but you know that that's the area that's

00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.560
 going to be developed over the next 20 years so that's something we didn't cover that much

00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:28.560
 you talk a little bit about that the easement you recommend in there yeah you know i just gave

00:33:28.560 --> 00:33:34.320
 the kind of the highlights of the plan but we do have a few other things in there uh that we

00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:42.080
 recommend one other tool to think about is um you know beyond landmarking you could ask for easements

00:33:42.080 --> 00:33:48.320
 you know as a tool uh there are communities out there and it's sometimes this is mainly tied to

00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:55.600
 downtowns or commercial districts where you're providing an incentive um to rehab the building

00:33:55.600 --> 00:34:01.360
 some cities will will require uh not so much if it's not eligible for landmarking you could be

00:34:01.360 --> 00:34:06.480
 eligible for landmarking but in return to get a grant you have to submit an easement to the

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:11.600
 building so that no future property owner can do any other alterations to it you can't apply

00:34:11.600 --> 00:34:18.400
 easements to so you know districts or special or infrastructure elements that you feel like are

00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:24.880
 important to a historic district that are worth maintaining um so the other thing too is you can't

00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.720
 put in your eligibility uh because you have to have eligibility requirements to be a local landmark

00:34:30.720 --> 00:34:37.600
 and you can make make it more specific where if there are landscape elements or even you know

00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:43.280
 archaeological ruins or partial buildings if they are significant in some way that they they could

00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:49.120
 be eligible for landmarking down the road when you talked about we'll use idiot field as a specific

00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:54.720
 area so are you looking at that area as a designation or all the houses individually

00:34:54.720 --> 00:35:00.800
 going to be considered uh part of a historical it'd be part of a district okay yeah part of a

00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.360
 larger district one thing that came to mind and i've talked to ron about this i used to

00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:10.000
 used to live in a house that i thought had some historical significance the guy who built it

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:15.760
 there's still the old frame house next door where he lived and he owned about 35 acres which just

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.600
 sits just opposite of sherman drive where idiot steel was and i'll want to talk to roman later

00:35:21.600 --> 00:35:28.000
 about still getting over there and trying to uh hold that but um i guess my concern is when i

00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.240
 sold the house the guy went in and just there was a lot of nice old stuff there there was

00:35:32.240 --> 00:35:39.520
 a trim that uh you don't see anymore there was the old broom sweep texture and so if we

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:47.680
 is there any way we can know if some of these older houses in these uh potential areas uh have

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:52.480
 traded hands or getting sold that the city can kind of learn them about you know hey you got

00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:58.080
 a potential for being a historical landmark you know so consider about what you're going to do

00:35:58.080 --> 00:36:02.400
 as far as changing stuff like that is there any not that we could stop them but at least we could

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:09.040
 you know be alerted and alert them to the fact that am i making sense there yeah okay uh you

00:36:09.040 --> 00:36:15.120
 know that's why i think um a design a design manual would be really helpful because you you

00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:19.040
 can't you i mean even though you're not going to regulate the interior you can't put stuff in there

00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:24.160
 to talk about finishes that buyer is going to be aware of it though yes that's what i was asking

00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:29.840
 how do we make that buyer aware that yeah you can you can you can talk about typical finishes of a

00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.280
 mid-century ranch house that you probably don't want to touch or destroy you know it's good to

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.680
 it's you know you have wide flexibility to put that type of information in a design manual even

00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:45.200
 though you're not may not work regulated right okay i would add to that that i think that that

00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:49.920
 i can't stress enough that i think the new conservation district language that we have

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:55.280
 now in the code um should be utilized i mean the idiots hill like said they recommended five

00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.880
 national districts in there um and local districts and what have you there are some really um

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:10.320
 top-notch respected architects who did work in um their um the comes of mind is the fellow that

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:17.120
 worked on datco and laney roland laney um but and many others but the end course fairhaven is there

00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:23.200
 is o'neill ford is right nearby but the conservation district which we could do think about is just

00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:27.760
 putting a conservation district around the whole area and i think the support is there in my

00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:32.640
 experience from people i've talked to all around there's there's not any opposition it's just a

00:37:32.640 --> 00:37:38.160
 matter of getting it done um and with the conservation district around it again you

00:37:38.160 --> 00:37:42.960
 won't you don't stress the hlc it's only they're only going to see a total demolition or a new

00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:49.840
 construction otherwise it's just a staff look at it but then when those can be marked in the county

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.880
 you know at least they'll have some designation hd or something will be in there as there is today

00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:00.800
 you know for look for historic districts in the landmark so i think that would be one way to to

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:10.720
 accomplish it to help i don't see any other questions appreciate you very much being here

00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:18.240
 and presenting to us thank you thank you uh so as stated earlier we're going to jump back into item

00:38:18.240 --> 00:38:22.720
 one on the agenda for this evening and go through the agenda items i just want to let the records

00:38:22.720 --> 00:38:27.360
 show that commissioner pernetta and commissioner sanchez have joined us uh commissioner cole is

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:35.760
 still absent um first item on the agenda is the minutes and we had an update that was distributed

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:42.080
 in terms of the who's absent who's present is there any other updates that need to happen to the

00:38:42.080 --> 00:38:50.480
 minutes great the next item of business is the consent agenda and i'll certainly open to questions

00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:59.440
 any item first we did get an update on the first item 3a so i do want hayley to update us on the

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:06.960
 new draft we got yeah just one quick cleanup item on the plat there was a previous note four that

00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:11.040
 referenced um there was a reference to actually an older plat that this company had done and

00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:15.120
 they realized that was an error being left on this plat so they just removed that and sent over a new

00:39:15.120 --> 00:39:20.400
 draft um i don't know if any of you noticed that it was a note referencing cross access to an adjoining

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.920
 property to the north that doesn't actually exist so they cleaned that up um and provided this new

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:32.320
 copy for you all this evening great any questions about this item or really item 3b while hayley's

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:51.200
 up here great thank you hayley is there any other questions on 3cd or 3e seeing none we'll move into

00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:59.280
 the items for individual consideration that is item 4a 80p 18-0006 and i'll invite cindy jackson

00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:07.280
 for presentation on this item thank you chair commission let me go ahead and bring up my

00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:27.920
 presentation okay i'm hearing before you tonight with a request for an alternate development plan

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:42.800
 adp number 18-0006 the applicant is requesting to deviate from sections 35 13 13 for non-residential

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:50.560
 and mixed use buildings and section 35 13 10 access parking and circulation requirements

00:40:52.720 --> 00:41:02.080
 the um i should note that 35 13 oops 10 uh staff worked with the applicant and that issue was

00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:09.040
 resolved so that is not part of this request tonight the site is uh consists of 3.42 acres

00:41:09.040 --> 00:41:16.720
 located in the nrmu district and the applicant is proposing professional office park the future

00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:21.840
 land use designation of the site is neighborhood mixed use which does correspond with the nrmu

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:27.280
 district this is applied to neighborhoods or districts where the predominant use is residential

00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:36.400
 however they want to have a neighborhood service office type component in it and this one of the

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.600
 requirements in this is to ensure that buildings are of appropriate scale and intensity to complement

00:41:41.600 --> 00:41:50.960
 the surrounding neighborhood the proposed deviations as listed section 35 i can read all

00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:56.240
 of these different section numbers if you want or i can just go through the deviations i think

00:41:56.240 --> 00:42:02.000
 going through the deviations will be adequate okay thanks um the requirements that buildings have

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.360
 their primary orientation towards the street rather than the parking area and the primary

00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.480
 entrance to each building must be readily apparent as a prominent architectural component and visible

00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:18.480
 from the street the proposed deviation is that all buildings are set back a minimum of 20 feet along

00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:24.640
 teesley lane the setback distance is required requested both to preserve existing trees and

00:42:24.640 --> 00:42:31.280
 due to the location of a 20 foot utility easement along teesley lane and that also applies to the

00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.240
 next deviation which requires at least 60 percent of the street frontage to have buildings within

00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:42.160
 10 feet of the front property line again that 20 foot required easement along teesley lane prevents

00:42:42.160 --> 00:42:49.040
 the buildings from getting that close to the property to the property line developments shall

00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:56.000
 have a minimum floor area of 0.4 plazas and pedestrian areas shall count as floor area for

00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:04.480
 the purpose of meeting the minimum far the site is shown has an far of 0.23 excluding the pedestrian

00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:13.760
 areas and plazas if you add them in they have an far of 0.27 the um purpose for the deviation as

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:19.520
 you'll see in my nest exhibit is the uh easements that are on the property there are so many easements

00:43:19.520 --> 00:43:25.120
 on the property it would be difficult to bring that the site up to the full far without going very tall

00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:32.960
 the next one is parking area shall be located behind buildings or on one or both sides

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:39.600
 what the way the applicant has designed this has the site design is that you we have one row of

00:43:39.600 --> 00:43:50.160
 parking in front of each building and um this also will provide a pedestrian access into the area the

00:43:50.160 --> 00:44:00.960
 site as you can see the site is pretty deep it's deeper than it is wide and with having the one

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:09.120
 row of parking along the um the front of the buildings it also provides sidewalk access

00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:15.520
 all from cheesely all the way back to the back of the site enabling the pedestrian yes sir

00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:23.440
 thank you chair could you show us where the walkways are the walkways are right here

00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.360
 okay and here and here you'll see it better on another slide that doesn't have all the easements

00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.480
 okay and while i'm on it too we we talk about this being a pedestrian oriented bill so can we

00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:40.560
 address the is there a sidewalk out for sidewalks all along here along here along oh yes definitely

00:44:40.560 --> 00:44:47.520
 okay okay couldn't quite pull that out myself thank you and the final deviation is uh the

00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:52.320
 building shall be set back not more than 15 feet of the right of way and we already talked about

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:59.760
 that this is an exhibit showing the all the easements that um encumber the site there is

00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:07.840
 the 20-foot utility easement which i spoke of there is a tp and l easement along the the front

00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:15.040
 portion of the site this is a court ordered access easement to this site this lot right over here

00:45:16.640 --> 00:45:25.200
 this is a 30-foot access easement and this is a 35-foot drainage easement so there there there are

00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:30.320
 a lot of easements on the site which uh the applicant had to work around in order to develop

00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:37.680
 the site kister smith what exactly is a court ordered access easement well from my understanding

00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:44.800
 is the former property owner of this site would not give access to the property owner here and

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:52.720
 this is a landlocked um lot the south the southern lot is a landlocked lot yes yes it is the the

00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:59.680
 southern the southwestern lot and uh from my understanding is the court ordered this this um

00:45:59.680 --> 00:46:05.120
 the previous property owner to provide access so does that mean that the so it's got to carry

00:46:05.120 --> 00:46:10.720
 over obviously for an easement but does that mean that the within that can the southern lot owner

00:46:10.720 --> 00:46:15.840
 then come back and say well according to your site plan it bends back around it comes back around

00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.200
 the road everything comes back around this other side on the south uh east corner of the buildings

00:46:21.200 --> 00:46:26.800
 down there that's exactly the configuration of this so the southern the southern plot owner

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:30.960
 plotter come back and say well we need you to stub that out for us now and do that is that

00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:36.240
 there if the aerial already shows that it connects with their driveway

00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:42.400
 okay so well let's wait for that so and there is this access easement right here as well

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:48.400
 that they can access the site from as well if the site ever develops right now there's a house on it

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:55.760
 if but if it ever develops in the nrmu district or in uh to more single family there is access

00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:02.880
 through this and this the applicant tried to work with the um property owner to change the

00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:11.120
 configuration of this but they wouldn't work with them does the looking at the site plan right now

00:47:11.120 --> 00:47:15.840
 or that site plan i'm sorry the location i guess i never realized that the reason why that driveway

00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.320
 was there but is that the only driveway for that person to get to their house uh my understand

00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:30.480
 from what i can tell yes interesting so whenever they develop this this could possibly make it

00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.480
 to where that that homeowner would be very hard for them to get to their house during the construction

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.040
 times or i'm assuming the quarter access easement probably has regulations within there that that

00:47:39.040 --> 00:47:43.680
 road has to stay open for them to get to and from their home exactly even during construction they

00:47:43.680 --> 00:47:54.240
 have to keep that open okay that's weird thanks okay the site plan um proposes seven buildings

00:47:55.120 --> 00:48:00.880
 there are all office buildings comprising of general office and medical office and for a

00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:09.360
 total of 33,800 square feet there are 122 parking spaces on the site the lot coverage is required

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:15.200
 to be a minimum uh excuse me a maximum of 80 percent and the lot coverage proposed is 73

00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:21.760
 percent and the landscaping a minimum of 27 percent uh 20 percent and they're providing 27

00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:27.280
 percent and the same with the tree canopy 20 percent minimum and they're providing 27 percent

00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:32.240
 so they are providing more open space and trees for the site than what is required

00:48:32.240 --> 00:48:39.120
 maximum building height permitted is 65 feet and in keeping with the character of the neighborhood

00:48:39.120 --> 00:48:47.840
 the applicant is going as high as 30 feet the far as we discussed uh 0.04 is the maximum required

00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:57.760
 and um 0.027 is what they are providing the key site features that the applicant is proposing

00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.520
 a pedestrian plaza with a primary area of tree preservation along teesley you can see this right

00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:10.880
 here the provision the provision of a significant 32 inch post oak located between building three

00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:20.400
 and teesley lane in this area here uh enhanced tree preservation they are preserving 100 percent

00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:28.400
 of the protected trees 100 is required however if um they remove any that we have requirements

00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:35.360
 for them to uh mitigate that the applicant's preserving all of them 77 percent of quality

00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:42.000
 trees are preserved only 25 percent is required 85 percent of secondary trees are preferred

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:49.040
 preserved only 12.5 percent of preservation is required there is sidewalk connectivity from

00:49:49.040 --> 00:49:55.440
 teesley you can see the sidewalk along teesley here and they've got sidewalk connectivity all

00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:02.080
 the way along to the back on both sides kister beck thank you chair cindy is there currently

00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:07.600
 sidewalk on both sides of that property where it would connect to is that the the road is

00:50:07.600 --> 00:50:15.840
 partially under construction okay so um i i i'm not sure at this time because it's been torn up

00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.480
 as it widens as the state comes in and widens that would they be putting the sidewalks in it

00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:31.520
 okay thanks now section 35.13.5 a of the dent development cove gives us criteria for approval

00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:37.680
 of uh alternate development plans the first is to preserve existing neighborhoods the proposed

00:50:37.680 --> 00:50:43.360
 office park is similar in nature to the office park located to the east of the side across

00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:48.400
 teesley lane neighborhood scale commercial developments provide effective buffers between

00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:53.600
 single family districts and commercial corridors the site is surrounded by single family and it

00:50:53.600 --> 00:51:00.240
 does provide a buffer the applicant will be excuse me ensure quality development the applicant will

00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:05.360
 be required to adhere to all develop all requirements of the dent development code with the exception

00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:11.600
 of those regulations noted that the applicant is requesting to deviate from the site is designated

00:51:11.600 --> 00:51:16.640
 as a pedestrian oriented neighborhood and the amenities provided on the site such as the

00:51:16.640 --> 00:51:22.400
 increased tree preservation pedestrian connectivity into the site and the provision of a pedestrian

00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:26.000
 plaza in front of the site enhance the pedestrian character of the area

00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:33.360
 focus new development to activity centers to curb strip development and urban sprawl

00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:39.040
 the proposed office park development is located within an area designated for neighborhood mixed

00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:44.400
 use on the future land use map commercial development of the scale proposed for this

00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:49.280
 site is the type of the development expected in these locations it provides neighborhood

00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:53.680
 scale development with enhanced pedestrian amenities that will help provide a sense of

00:51:53.680 --> 00:52:02.240
 place to the area proposal meets the criteria for approval i'm sorry ensure the infrastructure

00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:08.800
 is capable of accommodating development prior to the development occurring development around the

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:14.640
 subject site have already brought water and sewer connections to the area traffic along

00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:20.480
 teesley road can be problematic however text dot has plans for the improvement of the road in the

00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:26.560
 future it had already started however there were problems with the contractor and text dot is in

00:52:26.560 --> 00:52:34.480
 the process of hiring a new contractor because teesley lane is a text dot road driveway connections

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:40.560
 and drainage onto teesley will be reviewed and approved by text dot prior to construction the

00:52:40.560 --> 00:52:46.400
 drainage is a new thing that they are reviewing now it should be noted that if text dot review

00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:52.960
 requires revisions to the site which would affect this site plan or require key drainage features

00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:59.120
 such as a detention pond that they will have to come back to you for a revised adp site plan approval

00:52:59.120 --> 00:53:07.520
 results in high quality development meeting the intent of the standards the key site features

00:53:07.520 --> 00:53:12.640
 proposed by the applicant will achieve an enhanced pedestrian oriented development as noted before

00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:18.640
 there is enhanced pedestrian connectivity that ties into text dot sidewalks along teesley lane

00:53:18.640 --> 00:53:25.040
 or they will once the sidewalks are constructed a pedestrian plaza within a primary area of tree

00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:32.560
 preservation along teesley lane the preservation of a significant 32 inch post oak between building

00:53:32.560 --> 00:53:39.120
 three and teesley and the enhanced tree protection that i i mentioned earlier and there is sidewalk

00:53:39.120 --> 00:53:45.760
 connectivity from teesley lane throughout the entire site so that the people can actually just

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.760
 walk to the site and safely walk to whatever building they're going to instead of trying to

00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:56.320
 reverse the park the parking lots staff recommends approval of this request as it meets the established

00:53:56.320 --> 00:54:04.080
 requirements for approval of an adp in the ddc section 35 13 5a and that concludes my presentation

00:54:04.080 --> 00:54:09.680
 christopher thank you chair i wish uh richard was here today but maybe you can answer this and

00:54:09.680 --> 00:54:15.440
 correct so correct me if i'm wrong on this wasn't there some breakdown between the state and the

00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:23.280
 contractor on widening teesley that that's come to a halt right now is that a little off topic

00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.960
 pardon me it's off topic for the agenda well what the reason i'm bringing it up is if that

00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:35.840
 thing is stalled if teesley widening installed how that impact is developed can they move forward

00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:42.320
 completely even though the teesley widening or are they going to be restricted some the applicant

00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:46.880
 has accounted for the the widening of teesley on their site plan they've already they are not

00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.280
 encroaching into any of the variety of way that will be constructed with the widening okay so if

00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:59.040
 teesley the widening of teesley to the lead that shouldn't impact them okay thank you commissioner smith

00:54:59.040 --> 00:55:03.760
 cool things i guess i'll get the i'll have my questions out of the way then i'll get something

00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:09.920
 logistically out of the way on the there's a there's a pond behind the the lot behind yes

00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.440
 completely separate yes is that a retention pond or is that a yes that's a drainage easement back

00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:17.440
 okay so cool they'll be they'll be where they'll they'll retain all their water from building the

00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:23.040
 parking lot um there is no connection when i was asking that question but there's a driveway to

00:55:23.040 --> 00:55:28.400
 that house now and that looks like that's the only way in and out for that home their site plan one

00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:33.040
 we're only improving adp so the site plan that's in the adp yes there'll be there'll be a review

00:55:33.040 --> 00:55:36.400
 of that correct so to make sure that that if that's the only way in and out for that person we

00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:41.040
 shouldn't construct a road that doesn't let them have access to their house we are going to ensure

00:55:41.040 --> 00:55:45.520
 that that that that property owner will have access to their property gotcha okay that's what

00:55:45.520 --> 00:55:50.800
 i wanted to make sure of uh and then logistically because we're no longer discussing the parking

00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:56.640
 uh do we need to whenever we make a motion do we need to remove because the noticed item has that

00:55:56.640 --> 00:56:00.560
 section in there for you know we're looking at parking do we need to have our motion

00:56:00.560 --> 00:56:05.760
 remove that from the noticed item or can we just approve a staff recommendation so we're fine

00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.560
 because i'm not following there was no notice for this oh i'm sorry this is an individual

00:56:10.560 --> 00:56:16.560
 right consideration okay never mind thank you any other question would make it easier i could

00:56:16.560 --> 00:56:21.920
 just take that off of my presentation when i make it in the chamber i guess it was more of a question

00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:27.840
 of it's it's not so much notice as it was it was in the agenda which is publicly posted so to make

00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.680
 sure that we know if we put up there so yeah that item was approved it's like oh what what changes

00:56:31.680 --> 00:56:35.680
 with parking did you guys approve well we actually didn't do anything to it they actually complied

00:56:35.680 --> 00:56:40.400
 with the parking requirements actually if we need to make it's not really a big issue i'm not picking

00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.320
 a bone here it's making sure there's nothing we need to say to denote that that we actually

00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:48.400
 didn't vote on that piece whatsoever even though it was on the agenda you certainly could there's

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:53.600
 certainly no harm in it okay any other questions

00:56:53.600 --> 00:57:03.840
 okay thank you very much cindy thank you the next item of business is agenda item 5a it is the

00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:12.880
 continuing delay of this item the aesa 19-1c it is already opened so as we go to public

00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:19.840
 session i'll just ask for a vote to postpone this to a date certain of september 18th but

00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:25.280
 we won't open the public hearing since it's already opened we'll just look for a vote there

00:57:26.240 --> 00:57:34.080
 next is item 5b fr 18-0013 it's a replat presented by hayley

00:57:34.080 --> 00:57:51.520
 this request is for a replat of a single parcel it's located just off of i-35 where avenue a and

00:57:51.520 --> 00:57:56.720
 mccormick street currently intersect um you all may remember about a year ago we had a rezoning

00:57:56.720 --> 00:58:00.880
 request for this site for the expansion of the fire station so it's currently zoned dcg

00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:06.320
 the fire station today exists on this portion of the property that was previously unplatted

00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:11.520
 this lot also takes in a portion of the mccormick street right of way that council elected to

00:58:11.520 --> 00:58:18.560
 permanently close back in 2018 and then this is the former royal in addition lot a portion of which

00:58:18.560 --> 00:58:22.960
 was taken by tex dot so all three of those pieces are now being combined into one lot with the

00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:28.720
 intent of developing a new larger fire station on the western side of the property happy to

00:58:28.720 --> 00:58:34.720
 answer any questions christia ellis thank you chair hayley it's just with regard to the the response

00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:44.080
 that was uh given regarding um underwood was that ever addressed for them it's my understanding that

00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:49.600
 there's no intent at all to close underwood street um i haven't heard from that person any further

00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:57.680
 since their their response that was given okay christia beck thank you chair looking at the

00:58:57.680 --> 00:59:05.920
 outline on the uh notification map uh it looks like it's incorporated part of avenue a into that

00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:12.800
 is that just uh i believe that's just an error mapping how are they going to get up that way

00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:19.760
 looking for an alleyway or something thank you any other questions thank you very much hayley

00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:27.120
 next item of business is item 5c fr 19-10 and this is julie wyatt's item presentation

00:59:27.120 --> 00:59:40.080
 you're probably familiar with this site this property is located adjacent to i-35 near the

00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:48.240
 unt campus um it was the carriage square shopping center that has since been been demolished they

00:59:48.240 --> 00:59:55.200
 are they're replatting the property subdividing it into two lots to facilitate a mixed use

00:59:55.200 --> 01:00:00.800
 development on lot one which is the northern piece it's going to be a a combination retail

01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.560
 restaurant and multi-family with a wrapped parking garage

01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:16.240
 any questions for julie christia sanchez when you say multi-family is is this going to be

01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:21.760
 geared towards students is that do we know it just out of curiosity i don't know who their

01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.800
 perspective um i would imagine it would it would have a lot of students just because it's near the

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:40.880
 campus any other questions for julie thank you very much julie that concludes our uh walkthrough

01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:47.280
 the agenda for this evening we have one more concluding item and that is item 2b uh and so

01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:52.960
 with that i'll say it's um just a couple things about commissioner sanchez as this is his last

01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:58.960
 evening uh serving with us this uh tonight so before we break i just wanted to uh thank you

01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:05.600
 for all that you've done for planning zoning i know just by accepting the position as a city

01:01:05.600 --> 01:01:11.600
 commissioner there's a commitment and an involvement uh that is baseline but you didn't just show up you

01:01:11.600 --> 01:01:18.640
 came engaged studied and asked a lot of questions and helped all of our commissioners and so i

01:01:18.640 --> 01:01:23.600
 appreciate that you didn't just have it as a checkbox every other wednesday that you came uh

01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:28.880
 ready to help and serve and i think you've shaped the conversation of our city in a unique way and

01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:32.960
 so i know specifically for me a lot of the environmental issues with trees and drainage

01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.120
 and all those things you brought a great perspective from your background and history and so

01:01:37.120 --> 01:01:43.120
 over the past two years and hundreds of unpaid service to the city i just wanted to personally

01:01:43.120 --> 01:01:47.040
 thank you on behalf of the commissioner the commissioners and the city of denton for all

01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:51.280
 your work we just want to recognize you for your service and say thank you very much for all you've

01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:55.600
 done and and hopefully through the past two years you've seen the inner workings and you're not

01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:59.760
 going to be a stranger in the meetings you'll come and speak to us and help us continue as

01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:05.680
 your schedule permits helping us try our best to plan and zone the city but with that we have a

01:02:05.680 --> 01:02:09.520
 certificate for you i'll have richard hand to you and i just wanted to say thank you

01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:19.600
 i'd like to say thank you and uh i tell you i learned a lot in these two years i know it's

01:02:19.600 --> 01:02:23.760
 opened my eyes on as to what's going on in the city as far as planning and zoning so

01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:31.360
 uh all i can say is i appreciate it if it wasn't uh and the reason why we're we're uh

01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:37.840
 i'm separating is my wife and i have decided we just bought us an rv and and brought us a truck

01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.760
 we plan on doing some traveling at my age i figured you know i better do it while i'm healthy

01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:48.480
 and so that's primarily what we plan on doing the next you know for the next couple years

01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:53.840
 and that's why i decided we decided to separate well all right enjoy your travels and be safe out

01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:58.160
 there all right thank you with that we'll close the oh yeah commissioner beck let me add something

01:02:58.160 --> 01:03:03.120
 here and i don't want to take uh commissioner sanchez thunder away and i thank you for your

01:03:03.120 --> 01:03:08.640
 great comments about i totally agree with it just so there's a little understanding in my situation

01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:14.800
 here and i'm sorry i'm throwing monkey wrench into this but i'm kind of on hold right now and i'm

01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:20.640
 going to keep everybody updated month to month it seems like but after talking with uh councilwoman

01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:26.000
 uh keely briggs until she feels comfortable with somebody i've agreed to stick around

01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:32.480
 as long as i possibly can until the circumstances that motivated me to consider resigning become

01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.840
 overwhelming or what so i may be here maybe only one more month i could be here several more months

01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:43.440
 and i apologize for any confusion that may cause anybody so but i wish uh commissioner sanchez all

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.920
 the uh great fortune in the world and enjoy the travel man i wish i could be there with you

01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.800
 thank you thank you sir beck for that update uh any other words

01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.640
 with that we'll close the work session at 5 37 we'll meet back in council chambers at 6 30

01:03:58.640 --> 01:04:03.920
 good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the planning and zoning commission

01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:10.720
 meeting for august 21st 2019 seeing that we have a quorum i will call this meeting to order at 6

01:04:10.720 --> 01:04:15.680
 30 the first item of business is to stand and give a pledge of allegiance to the us and texas flag of able

01:04:15.680 --> 01:04:24.080
 pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic from which

01:04:24.080 --> 01:04:29.760
 it stands one nation under god indivisible liberty and justice for all

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.760
 to be

01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:47.600
 the next item of business is to consider approval of the planning and zoning commission minutes and

01:04:47.600 --> 01:04:54.000
 just for the record i wanted to state that the public meeting correction should mimic the

01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.240
 work session correction in terms of the attendance it was corrected for the work session minutes but

01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:06.640
 i wanted to make sure for the record we had the um public session minutes reflect the same changes

01:05:06.640 --> 01:05:12.480
 as the work session specifically that's uh commissioner pratt was present and absent was

01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:20.720
 commissioner beck and commissioner smith any are any discussion or motion for the minutes

01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:28.960
 commissioner smith move to approve the minutes for august 7th and for august 14th commissioner beck

01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.080
 all right

01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:39.680
 i can do it for the seventh but i can't do it for the 14th i forgot i wasn't there

01:05:39.680 --> 01:05:46.240
 i didn't mean to second that so i second for the seventh i wasn't here on the 14th

01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:55.680
 so can we take these in two different votes let's recuse your second do we have a second for the

01:05:55.680 --> 01:06:03.680
 august 7th yes yeah motion for the seven you're here for the seven you weren't here for the 14th

01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:08.960
 yes correct okay let's uh we have first and a second for the august 7th meeting we'll call

01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:21.520
 for vote on the board motion carries six zero commissioner smith uh move to approve the minutes

01:06:21.520 --> 01:06:26.720
 for august 14th commissioner pernetta second the motion we have a first and a second any discussion

01:06:26.720 --> 01:06:35.440
 seeing none i call for a vote on the board

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:43.280
 motion carries five zero wonder cues all right thanks for helping me through that one

01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.560
 next item of business is the consent agenda

01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:56.000
 christian alice move approval we have a first for approval christian beck second we have a second

01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.840
 with the first and second any discussion scene nine i'll call for a vote on the board

01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:13.680
 motion carries six zero the next item of business is the items for individual consideration we have

01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:31.600
 one it's item 4a adp 18-0006 i'll invite cindy jackson for presentation

01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:50.560
 missioners adp 19 18-0006 is a request for approval of an alternate development plan to

01:07:50.560 --> 01:07:58.240
 deviate from section 35 13 13 4 non-residential mixed use buildings and section 35 13 10 access

01:07:58.240 --> 01:08:05.600
 parking and circulation requirements i would like to note that the second portion act 35 13 10 access

01:08:05.600 --> 01:08:11.040
 parking and circulation requirements is is no longer a requested deviation because the applicant

01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:16.400
 now um worked with staff i worked with the applicant and they now meet the requirement

01:08:16.400 --> 01:08:25.040
 the site is 3.42 acres and as you can see the site right here it is zoned in rmu the use proposed

01:08:25.040 --> 01:08:33.040
 for the site is professional office park the site is designated uh future on the future land use map

01:08:33.040 --> 01:08:38.240
 as neighborhood mixed use this is applied to neighborhoods or districts where the predominant

01:08:38.240 --> 01:08:46.640
 use is residential however it encourages neighborhood scale non-residential uses such as

01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:55.200
 neighborhood services and offices this designation also requires that we ensure that the buildings

01:08:55.200 --> 01:08:59.360
 are of appropriate scale and intensity to complement the surrounding neighborhood

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:06.640
 the proposed deviations are as follows one is buildings shall have their primary orientation

01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:11.680
 towards the street rather than the parking area and the primary entrance must be readily apparent

01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:17.040
 as a prominent architectural component and visible from the street and at least 60 percent of the

01:09:17.040 --> 01:09:23.760
 street frontage shall have buildings within 10 feet of the property area and buildings

01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:29.120
 shall be set back no more than 15 feet from the right of way unless the area is used for pedestrian

01:09:29.120 --> 01:09:36.560
 activities such as plazas or outdoor eating areas all buildings will be set back a minimum of 20

01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:44.560
 feet along teesley lane due to the 20 foot utility easement that is located along teesley lane

01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:54.160
 the um next deviation would be development shall have a minimum floor area ratio of 0.04

01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.240
 the plazas and pedestrian areas shall count as floor area for the purpose of meeting the minimum

01:10:00.240 --> 01:10:07.360
 far the site is shown has an far of 0.23 and when you include the plazas and pedestrian areas it is

01:10:07.360 --> 01:10:15.280
 0.27 parking areas shall be located between the buildings or on one or both sides one row of

01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:20.880
 parking is provided in front of each building to facilitate pedestrian access to the buildings at

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:28.320
 the rear of the site this exhibit shows the location of the easements on the site the site

01:10:28.320 --> 01:10:34.720
 is encumbered by quite a few easements as you can see which is what is preventing the applicant from

01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:43.120
 fully complying with the requested deviations this is the 20 foot utility easement which is preventing

01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:51.440
 the the front setback from moving more than 20 feet this is also a tp and l easement there is a 35

01:10:51.440 --> 01:10:58.240
 foot wide drainage easement along the western property line a 30 foot access easement along

01:10:58.240 --> 01:11:04.960
 the southern property line and then a court ordered access easement that bisects the site

01:11:09.440 --> 01:11:20.400
 site plan is shown shows seven buildings on the site and a total of 33,800 square feet of office

01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:27.600
 space is proposed they also have 122 parking spaces when looking at the requirements for the

01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:35.200
 nrmu district there is a maximum of 80 percent lot coverage required and the applicant only has 73

01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:42.480
 provided landscaping a minimum of 20 percent is required and the applicant is providing 27 percent

01:11:42.480 --> 01:11:48.400
 which exceeds the minimum tree canopy required is at 20 percent minimum and the applicant is

01:11:48.400 --> 01:11:53.760
 providing 27 percent which also exceeds the minimum the height of the buildings as proposed

01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:59.040
 is 30 feet when the maximum is 65 feet this is to keep it more in scale with the neighborhood

01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:09.040
 the far is um required is 0.4 and they're providing 0.27

01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:17.520
 key site features on the property include a pedestrian plaza with a primary area of tree

01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:25.680
 preservation pedestrian plaza is right in this location the preservation of a significant 32

01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:32.000
 inch post oak located between building number three and teesley lane enhanced tree preservation

01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:39.600
 100 percent of protected trees preserved um 77 percent of quality trees preserved on the site

01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:47.360
 when only 25 percent preservation is required 85 percent of secondary trees are preserved when

01:12:47.360 --> 01:12:53.200
 only 12.5 percent preservation is required the applicant is providing sidewalk connectivity from

01:12:53.200 --> 01:13:04.080
 teesley lane through the entire site to enhance the pedestrian aspect section 35 13 5a provides the

01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:10.000
 criteria on that means to be met for approval of an alternate development plan the first one is to

01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:15.840
 observe for just existing neighborhoods the proposed office park is similar to the office park located

01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.720
 to the east of the site across teesley lane neighborhood scale and commercial development

01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:25.360
 commercial developments provide effective buffers between the single family districts and commercial

01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:33.440
 corridors and and there is single family all around this site and it is providing a buffer

01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:39.760
 for the single family to the west ensure quality development the applicant will be required to

01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:43.920
 adhere to all requirements of the dent in development code with the exception of those regulations

01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:49.600
 deviated from with this development as noted previously this this site is designated as a

01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:55.040
 pedestrian oriented neighborhood and the amenities provided on the site that i mentioned with the

01:13:55.040 --> 01:14:03.600
 previous slide slide um enhance the pedestrian character of the neighborhood focus new development

01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:09.440
 on activity centers to curb strip development and urban sprawl the proposed office park development

01:14:09.440 --> 01:14:15.520
 is located in an area designated for neighborhood mixed use on the future land use map commercial

01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:21.760
 development of the scale proposed for this site is the type of development expected in these locations

01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:27.680
 this is not a strip development it is an office park it provides neighborhood scale development

01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:34.640
 and enhanced pedestrian amenities ensure the infrastructure is capable of accommodating

01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:40.800
 development prior to the development occurring the site all around the site areas all around

01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:45.040
 the site have already been developed they have already brought water and sewer to the area

01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:52.880
 traffic along teesley can be problematic however the tex dot has plans for the improvement of the

01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:58.960
 road in the future which will alleviate the congestion that issues because teesley lane

01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:03.440
 is a tax dot road driveway connections and drainage onto teesley will be reviewed and

01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:08.960
 approved by tex dot prior to construction should be noted that if the tax dot review

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:15.280
 requires any site changes which affect the site plan elements that are the subject of this adp

01:15:16.160 --> 01:15:22.720
 as noted in the key in the proposed deviation table or the key site features previously noted

01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:29.920
 a revised adp will be required results in a high quality development meeting the intent of the

01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:37.360
 standards the key site features proposed by the applicant will achieve enhanced pedestrian

01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:42.240
 orientation and oriented development and i've already mentioned them several times

01:15:44.400 --> 01:15:49.360
 staff recommends approval of this request as it meets established requirements for the approval

01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:56.800
 of an adp in ddc 3513 5a that concludes my presentation and the applicant is present if

01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:03.840
 you have any questions thank you very much much cindy any questions i do not see anything thank

01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:07.040
 you the applicant is here and i believe you have a presentation

01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:15.600
 if you just state your name and address for the record you'll be provided 10 minutes for

01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:21.280
 the presentation good evening commissioners i'm not going to go through and repeat what cindy just

01:16:21.280 --> 01:16:27.520
 said i do want to address a couple of questions that came up during the work session very briefly

01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:32.800
 and then i want to give you an example of a recent office park development that the same property

01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.960
 owner and developer just completed just so you can see some pictures of what something similar

01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:41.760
 that we're going to do so the easement by right that cuts through the middle of our property was

01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:48.480
 a topic of discussion during the work session and just want to clarify that that arose it was a

01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:54.480
 court-ordered easement and it's it was written as an easement by right rather than an easement by

01:16:54.480 --> 01:17:01.360
 necessity it was a dispute between the neighbor and the previous property owner and the way the

01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:08.720
 court order was written it established an easement that we have absolutely no way to remove

01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:15.520
 and the property owner to our south who who was granted the easement would would have to agree to

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:21.360
 move it and my client did meet with her several times and she's just not willing to relocate that

01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:28.880
 easement so the peculiarity of our site plan is partially due to maintaining that easement for her

01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:34.080
 and we do intend all through construction to make sure that she has access within her easement we'll

01:17:34.080 --> 01:17:38.720
 do one lane at a time whatever it takes to make sure that she has access when we construct the

01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:43.760
 south drive she will have an alternate access that she is welcome to use it will be another public

01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:51.280
 access easement but we we have no way to remove the easement as it exists today and in terms of

01:17:51.280 --> 01:17:57.200
 text dot timing as it relates to the construction of our project and the latest update from text

01:17:57.200 --> 01:18:01.760
 dot was issued on july 17th and at that point in time they were still in the bidding process to

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:07.600
 select a new contractor and we do still think that they will be coming in ahead of us and

01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:14.240
 constructing the sidewalk and we still have to go through platting text dot access permits and you

01:18:14.240 --> 01:18:19.840
 know civil plans and building permits so it's going to take us some time and we do understand

01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:25.360
 that the burden is on us to construct those improvements if we get there first and then

01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:30.800
 lastly there was a question in regarding drainage and cindy showed you a 35 foot drainage easement

01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:37.680
 on our western property line and that is actually an existing concrete flume that the property owner

01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:43.520
 constructed in conjunction with request by the city's engineering department to alleviate some

01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:49.120
 drainage concerns with the bent oaks neighborhood to our north and it was designed and constructed

01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:54.720
 to handle all drainage at fully developed conditions of course we'll have to demonstrate

01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:58.720
 that when we come in with our civil plans but we do anticipate that it will handle everything that we

01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:06.240
 bring in and then with that i just want to show you quickly this is emory office park which you guys

01:19:06.240 --> 01:19:14.000
 saw a replat on relatively recently i think that's the only thing that had to come to you

01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:19.440
 but this is six professional office buildings located on bonnie bray and emory near razor

01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:24.400
 ranch that we just completed the the construction of the sixth building it's going to be the same

01:19:24.400 --> 01:19:29.280
 contractor same architect same developer and same property owner so just wanted to give you an

01:19:29.280 --> 01:19:35.280
 example of it will be residential style single story construction that is compatible with the

01:19:35.280 --> 01:19:39.440
 neighborhood and that's all i have but i'm happy happy to answer any questions

01:19:39.440 --> 01:19:46.000
 thank you for the presentation and giving us those contacts i don't see any questions at this time

01:19:50.240 --> 01:19:55.760
 this is an item for individual consideration so at any time we can discuss or make a motion if

01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:00.800
 there's someone out in the public they would like to speak certainly provide that opportunity to do

01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:08.080
 so but the chair would entertain a motion or discussion on the item to mr smith motion to

01:20:08.080 --> 01:20:13.760
 approve we have a first for approval commissioner pernetta second the motion we have a first and a

01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:20.640
 second for approval any discussion seeing none i'll call for vote on the board

01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:33.840
 motion carries six zero next item of business is item uh five a it's the first of our public

01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:42.560
 hearings it's a esa 19-0001c this item has been previously opened and postponed to this date

01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:50.880
 and staff is looking for us to consider a motion to move this to a date certain of september 18th

01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:58.720
 commissioner smith motion to uh to uh postpone till september 18th date certain we have a first

01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:03.280
 commissioner pernetta second the motion to postpone we have a first and a second to postpone to a date

01:21:03.280 --> 01:21:07.840
 certain of september 18th any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board

01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.400
 the motion carries five zero

01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:25.920
 next item of business is five b and that is the final replat 18-0013

01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:30.880
 can you pull those results

01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:38.160
 were you refusing christian pernetta no i get uh

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:44.880
 yeah can we vote by show of hands just so we can address the record for the previous item

01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:49.520
 five a to postpone to a date certain all those in favor can you raise your hand

01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:56.720
 okay so motion carries six zero let the record state that all commissioners voted for

01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:05.120
 minus jason cole who is absent that now brings us item 5b fr 18-0013

01:22:05.120 --> 01:22:12.080
 and i'll invite hayley for presentation good evening this is a replat of lot one r block a

01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:18.320
 of fire station number three edition um this replat is combining um currently unplotted property

01:22:18.320 --> 01:22:23.120
 where the existing fire station is located on the east side of the property with the mccormick street

01:22:23.120 --> 01:22:28.320
 right of way that's been permanently closed by city ordinance south of underwood street along with

01:22:28.320 --> 01:22:35.120
 the remainder of the old royal n edition lot one part of which was taken by tex dot the intent of

01:22:35.120 --> 01:22:40.240
 the replat is just to consolidate the site for the redevelopment of a larger fire station on the

01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:48.640
 property i'm happy to answer any questions i did not see thank you if i did not this is a public

01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:52.960
 hearing i want to make sure that that's open and uh the public can certainly speak to this

01:22:53.760 --> 01:23:01.040
 replat if they would like seeing none i'll close the public hearing christopher netta motion to

01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:06.080
 approve we have a first for approval christopher smith second we have first and second for approval

01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:17.520
 any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board motion carries six zero the next item

01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:24.320
 of business is item 5c fr 19-0010 i will open the public here and invite julie for presentation

01:23:24.320 --> 01:23:32.080
 good evening i'm julie wyatt senior planner with the city of denton

01:23:32.080 --> 01:23:39.600
 and this replat is for the carriage square edition the intent of the the replat is to

01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:46.880
 subdivide a previously platted piece of property for redevelopment they intend to develop the

01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:54.320
 the northern lot lot one with a mixed use development which includes um retail space

01:23:54.320 --> 01:23:58.880
 restaurant space and um and a multi-family development with it with a structured parking

01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:05.600
 garage i'll stand for any questions commissioner ellis thank you jim julie there's nothing planned

01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:14.000
 right now for lot two is that correct correct okay i do not see any other questions all right thank

01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:17.200
 you so much this is a public hearing anyone wishing to speak may certainly do so

01:24:17.200 --> 01:24:23.840
 seeing none i will close public hearing and turn to the dance for a discussion our motion

01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:28.400
 commissioner smith motion to approve we have a first for approval christopher netta second

01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:34.560
 we have first and second for approval any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board

01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:46.240
 motion carries six zero that brings us to our final item for this evening which is the plan

01:24:46.240 --> 01:24:51.120
 zoning commission project matrix i will turn it over to richard for an update and then open

01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:59.840
 to the commissioners for discussion briefly i have excuse me um no real updates on the on the matrix

01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:06.400
 i just wanted to provide a a quick update on last night's city council meeting they did approve the

01:25:06.400 --> 01:25:15.120
 the two ordinances um relative to the house bills uh with the uh i think it was the 2439 the building

01:25:15.120 --> 01:25:20.400
 materials that did include the the additional whereas clause that was requested by by the

01:25:20.400 --> 01:25:27.760
 commission so that was incorporated uh they also heard the fireside uh item the rezoned the overlay

01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:34.720
 conditions that were requested to be modified council did not take action but deferred or

01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:39.520
 postponed that item until september 10th and so there were some questions with respect to

01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:45.120
 obviously the fence and and the trees and how that would how that would work and coordinate with the

01:25:45.120 --> 01:25:51.520
 electric lines so i'll update you after after that and if you saw in the work session in the paper

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:57.120
 this morning there was also a a work session item on sort of development fees so we'll be bringing

01:25:57.120 --> 01:26:03.280
 that back um very shortly with those the actual fee ordinance as part of the budget and with that

01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:07.200
 i have nothing more to add any discussion for the matrix

01:26:07.200 --> 01:26:13.680
 christopher sanchez this is your last evening would you like to add anything just to put

01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:19.840
 work on the plate of city staff as a going away president not really well as we mentioned early

01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:23.920
 in work session i just wanted to thank you again for your service uh and wish you the best in your

01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:29.280
 travels and enjoy the rb trips be safe out there thank you with that i will close our

01:26:29.280 --> 01:26:31.320
 our meeting for this evening at 6 52.