1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,040 Good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the plan and zoning commission session work session 2 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:17,760 for August 21st 2019. I'll call this meeting to order at 434. We do have a quorum but with that we 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,520 do have the following commissioners absent at the start of the meeting. Commissioner Cole, 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Commissioner Sanchez, and Commissioner Prunetta. This evening for the way the workflow is going to 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,840 go with the agenda is we're going to skip to 2a first. That will be the report from Roman McAllen. 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:40,320 After 2a we'll jump into the clarification of agenda items item one and then after one we'll 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,160 jump back to 2b. So for the first item for this evening I'll invite Roman McAllen for presentation 8 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:53,120 for the 2019 historic preservation plan. Thank you commissioners. I'm Roman McAllen, the historic 9 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,800 preservation officer for the city of Denton. This work session is about the draft historic 10 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:05,200 preservation plan that's been worked on since about October of last year and with us we have 11 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:12,480 visiting from Chicago Nick and I'll let you let him tell you his last name and Siraj are here 12 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:23,920 and really I'm just here to introduce them and let them go through the parts of the plans of Nick right here. 13 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Good evening. Well thank you Roman. He has tried to pronounce my name a couple of times this past week. 14 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:46,640 It's Kallo Jerisus and I'm with the Lakota group and I'm here with my colleague Siraj Asfahani. 15 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:52,960 As Roman has mentioned we've been working with him and members of the community to 16 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:59,440 prepare a historic preservation plan and today we'll give you an overview of that plan and what's 17 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:06,320 inside it. It's been our pleasure to work with the community on this. This Denton has had a great 18 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,200 history in preservation. He's done quite a lot of great work and we'll talk about that in a moment. 19 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:18,640 So it's been a really interesting process as we've gone through. As Roman said we've been 20 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:26,400 working on this since last October and first of all a historic preservation plan it's like 21 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:32,000 a comprehensive plan or a downtown plan. It's a policy document. Basically it provides some 22 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,360 strategic directions for the community in terms of how to improve and enhance the historic 23 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:43,920 preservation program. There are many communities out there that have a municipal historic preservation 24 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:48,800 program and they develop historic preservation plans in order to give them some guidance. 25 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Just to give you some background, many communities have started their preservation 26 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:03,040 program back in the 70s. The reason for that is in 1966 the U.S. Congress established 27 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:09,360 the National Register of Historic Places which is the nation's official list of buildings, 28 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:16,000 sites, structures worthy of preservation and so that began kind of the modern preservation 29 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,600 movement although there are many communities around the country that have done preservation 30 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:26,880 for a heck of a lot longer than the 60s. But the National Register gave impetus for communities to 31 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 look at their architecture, look at their neighborhoods and find out what's significant 32 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,840 architecturally and historically and to designate those as districts or landmarks. 33 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:43,360 So to give you a little bit more background some of you I'm sure are familiar the National Register 34 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:50,640 it's a federal level designation it's an honorary one there are no restrictions to that. Probably 35 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,360 the primary benefit of having a National Register district is that income producing and commercial 36 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,360 properties are eligible for federal tax credits also state tax credits as well so it provides an 37 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,320 incentive for those types of properties for to encourage rehabilitation and reinvestment in those 38 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:13,200 buildings but primarily it's it's honorary. Local communities however can establish local historic 39 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:20,320 districts and that's where you can have the latitude to regulate what happens to curate what 40 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,840 happens in those areas to manage them to maintain their integrity and authenticity over the long term. 41 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:30,960 So Denton has both of those you do have National Register districts and you have local historic 42 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,560 districts. So just to give you a background so really kind of officially the preservation movement 43 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,080 started here in Denton with the county when the Denton County Courthouse was the first property 44 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:48,720 in the community listed in the National Register of Historic Places so back in 1977 and then in 1980 45 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,560 the the city followed up with adopting a historic preservation ordinance which I'm sure you're 46 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,120 familiar with that is the tool that communities use to establish local districts is to have a 47 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:06,880 local preservation ordinance. In 1985 is when the last historic preservation plan was adopted 48 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,960 here in the community so it is a little bit overdue for a look and re-examine re-examination. 49 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Many communities during the 70s and 80s adopted historic preservation plans and they really kind 50 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,760 of looked at their very significant buildings like a courthouse or a famous mansion associated with 51 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:31,600 a famous merchant so you looked at those real high style properties and so that's what we looked back 52 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:40,400 in the 70s and 80s. So back then we were looking at properties mainly developed before 1930 or 1940 53 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:46,400 because the National Register of Historic Places is its baseline evaluation criteria any property 54 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,240 over 50 years old is considered historic so that's kind of a baseline evaluation criteria. 55 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:59,600 So now that time has moved on and it's almost 2020 and I myself I'm National Register eligible 56 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,320 myself time has moved on so now we're looking at the 1950s and 60s and what's significant during 57 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:13,040 that time period so as I present we'll talk about that those types of resources here and then. 58 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:20,080 So then moving on from 1985-1986 the very first local historic district was established the Oak 59 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Hickory Local Historic District. In 1989 the the city became a certified local government 60 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:32,320 and that is a designation that's given by the Texas Historical Commission and the National Park 61 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Service. It's a designation for communities that have adopted a local historic preservation ordinance 62 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,640 have done surveying established districts but the primary benefit of that is it allows you to 63 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:51,520 access grants to do preservation projects and this preservation plan is partially funded through a 64 00:06:51,520 --> 00:07:00,000 certified local government grant from the Texas Historical Commission. So and then in 2000 the 65 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,560 the downtown it's called the Denton County Courthouse on the square but it's basically the 66 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,720 the entire square area was listed in the National Register of Historic Places and then the in 2008 67 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:17,920 the West Oak Local Area Historic District was designated. I do like to point out in 2014 your 68 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:24,320 mainstream your mainstream program reached 25 years in operation. I point that out because 69 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,920 not many communities have had mainstream programs that lasted that long so that's quite an 70 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,760 accomplishment for this city to have a real successful program that's that's been around 71 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,160 and doing good things and then last but not least your latest historic district is the 72 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Bella Avenue Historic District obviously that originally was a conservation district and now 73 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:50,640 it's a historic district. So overall over you know since 1980 you've designated 62 local landmarks 74 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,840 you have three local historic districts you have two districts listed in the National Register and 75 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,280 then you have four buildings individually listed in the National Register. So it's been a good 76 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:07,120 amount of work for the community and I think a very successful good program so this plan hopes 77 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:16,000 to build on that success overall. I do also I forgot to mention that this preservation plan was 78 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,000 also recommended in your Denton 2030 plan as an implementation measure. It was a specific 79 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,680 recommendation to update your historic preservation plan so you are achieving a part of your comprehensive 80 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:36,000 plan. So what is a historic preservation plan? As I said it's a policy document. We are doing 81 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,800 several things with the plan one is obviously to look at future historic districts where they may be 82 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,800 where there are future landmarks as well. How do we continue the strong work of your your mainstream 83 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,840 program and look at how to do preservation based economic development because historic preservation 84 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:59,120 does generate new jobs and you reinvest in existing buildings. It is probably in my opinion the most 85 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,480 effective sustainability strategy you could have because you're not demolishing buildings and 86 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,200 putting it into a landfill. You're saving and reusing them so it's the ultimate recycling program 87 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,280 in my opinion. Commissioner Beck has a question. Thank you Chair. Can you distinguish for us the 88 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,920 difference between historic and conservation districts? What's what's the difference is there? 89 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,200 There is there is a difference. There is a difference in level of design review 90 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:32,240 that the Historic Landmark Commission does. Typically in many Texas communities a conservation 91 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,760 district may be an area that not necessarily qualifies as a national register or local 92 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,720 historic district because it may not have the fabric the authenticity there the level of 93 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:48,080 integrity that needs to be there but you want to be able to sort of maintain and sort of manage 94 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:53,600 that area and encourage good design. There may be a need for infill development to happen and you 95 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,400 want to make sure that that infill development is is appropriate well scaled to that neighborhood. 96 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,880 So it's it's certainly for areas that may not meet that threshold as a historic district but it may 97 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,560 be an area where you want to manage to make sure it maintains some design quality. There may be some 98 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:16,960 relationship there to historical events or buildings nearby or something like that. Exactly. Okay okay 99 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,120 thank you. For clarification and this might be for a moment we have converted all of our 100 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:26,640 conservations to historic and we've phased out the conservation kind of designation in town. 101 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,680 Well let me just clarify we did you know we had the Bell Avenue Conservation was now a historic 102 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:36,240 district but what's important too is we went back to the code with that recent revision 103 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:43,200 and we changed the level of review that you would have so we can now still create districts 104 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,480 but if the way we've worded it if you have a demolition in that district or new construction 105 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,840 then you would go to the Landmark Commission but anything else at all would be reviewed by staff. 106 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,440 So it's a tool that could be used you know for example and I think this is something we need to 107 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,240 get clarification on but that new bill that came through this last legislative session about 108 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:11,440 materials regulation some I think that bill allows you to create a conservation district anywhere you 109 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,560 want and then regulate materials but that's been there's some people see it the other way in fact 110 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:20,880 we needed to get an opinion from the AG's office at some point but for us locally it's nice because 111 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,880 we didn't have that before. The historic district language and the conservation district language 112 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,240 were virtually identical. Gotcha thanks for that clarification. Sure thank you. Any other questions? 113 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:39,280 So just to continue on in a preservation plan we also look at how your programs managed and 114 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,840 ministered and so a lot of the questions we have right now in terms of design review and 115 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,720 how conservation districts work. We want to evaluate make sure that that's working for the 116 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,840 community and it's effective and then last but not least it's about education and advocacy it's 117 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,720 always about trying to educate the community about the benefits of historic preservation and what it 118 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:04,880 can do so that's always an ongoing need and so we look at other partners that could help us do that 119 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:10,480 so it could be you know the Denton County Office of History and Culture it could be other partners 120 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,600 we could bring in to help us educate those additional stakeholders about the benefits. 121 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:23,200 So the the plan itself this is how it's organized. Actually the plan part of it is at the very 122 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:29,520 beginning. We have a series of goals and policy statements. There's actually just four major 123 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:36,400 goals in the document and about 32 recommendations in there so it's at the very front. We also have an 124 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:42,080 implementation section about which party is responsible to implement what and time frames. 125 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,840 We also have a funding section in there so there's other funding opportunities beyond just 126 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,480 certified local government grants and then we also have a section in there about the different 127 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,920 historic resources that are here in Denton just to give a description of what's significant here 128 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,520 locally and then we have a section on city planning policies you know we did review some 129 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:09,360 of your prior plans and to see where preservation fits in and then we have a section in there on 130 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,600 community engagement and I'll talk more about that and then there's a series of appendices 131 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,680 that are just background information. So that's basically the structure of the historic preservation 132 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:27,280 plan. There were just two phases to this project. We started back in October. We had a series of 133 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,400 listening sessions with stakeholders to find out their concerns and their ideas about historic 134 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:38,000 preservation locally. We also had a community workshop and then we produced sort of a state 135 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,920 of the city report which gave a summary of existing conditions last March and then we're 136 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:49,600 here now we're finishing up the the second phase which is providing this draft historic preservation 137 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:55,200 plan. We did have a second community meeting back in June to present some of these ideas to the 138 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,320 broader community. We also had an online survey a couple of online surveys and I'll talk about that 139 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:08,880 in a moment. I'm not going to go into too great detail of the slide but generally when we prepare 140 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,720 preservation plans there are kind of three standards that we follow and these standards 141 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,920 were prepared by the US Department of the Interior and these are preservation standards that we try 142 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,920 to follow in developing our work. The first standard is preservation plans are based on 143 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:32,640 historic context and what that means is that a historic context is generally periods of history 144 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:40,640 in the community's development and so I mentioned a moment ago we're now looking at the 1950s and 145 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:47,120 60s as areas to look at. In many communities the 50s and 60s were important because that was a 146 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,120 period right after World War II when servicemen were coming back the GI Bill was in place but 147 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,840 there was also a period in there was a housing shortage generally but that's the period where 148 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,360 the first modern developers came about and built big large-scale subdivisions and so that's a 149 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:10,080 period of history we need to look at so that's a historic context. So we develop the plan includes 150 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:16,400 a description of different historic contexts the development of the universities another one the 151 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,760 African-American community experience here in Dent and so those are historic contexts and once 152 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,720 we identify those we try to find out what properties and and buildings are out there that kind of 153 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,480 represent those those context periods and then we develop a set of goals and priorities around 154 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,080 around those resources and so that's really kind of the the first two standards. The third standard 155 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:45,120 is to integrate historic preservation or broader planning operations here at the city so when we 156 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,760 look at city planning we're trying to make sure that we incorporate historic preservation as much 157 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:57,120 as possible. Going back to the community engagement as I mentioned we had a series of meetings and 158 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,080 workshops we had two community workshops during this process the stakeholder interview sessions 159 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,360 we had 45 participants in that representing a wide range of stakeholders from downtown property 160 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,800 owners to neighborhood residents and then we had two online surveys and we had 400 plus people 161 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:18,960 respond to the online surveys so it was a really good response and we asked questions basically 162 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,840 what do you think's important here to preserve what tools should be put in place so those were the 163 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:34,560 those were the big things that came out. I already went over much of this but like I said the plan 164 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:42,160 includes four goal statements 32 recommendations and they revolve around four areas surveying 165 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,360 documentation education advocacy community development sustainability and then program 166 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,960 administration so I'm just going to give you the the big highlights out of the plan. 167 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:59,040 To have an effective community preservation program we kind of think that there's these are the four 168 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,320 key areas you need to really work on and if you do these four areas well you have a really well 169 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:10,480 functioning program. The first thing is survey and documentation so this goes back to the discussion 170 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,320 of historic context so once you identify historic context you got to find out what areas of the 171 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:23,040 community does that context represent and we need to identify resources that are important so you 172 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:29,200 have to do a series of surveys to be able to identify those properties so in the past I know 173 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:36,160 15 years or so there's been three three main surveys done since 96 so three surveys that have 174 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,200 been done or that have identified buildings and some of those have become landmarks and districts 175 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,600 but we need to continue to do that survey work so we can identify those areas so in a moment I'll 176 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,440 show you a map where we think some future survey areas could be. The second part is having incentives 177 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,240 in place because you want to encourage the private sector to participate in preservation 178 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,760 if you want to encourage them to rehab the building it's always good to have an incentive 179 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,360 in place to make that happen so there are a number of incentives that are available here in Denton 180 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:12,960 I'll talk about a couple of them in a moment but it's really important to have that that care to 181 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,560 encourage reinvestment. The third part is administration so having the city being able 182 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,600 to administer the whole process of landmarking identifying landmarking buildings and things 183 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:30,640 and then last the education and advocacy part. So for the first thing on survey survey and 184 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:38,640 documentation our plan we did identify seven future survey areas and so on the map here 185 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:45,200 in blue are potential survey areas now we're not telling you to go out tomorrow to do all seven of 186 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:52,320 them these are areas to look at down the road you can secure additional certified local government 187 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:58,240 grants to probably undertake these surveys as have done and have been done recently but we 188 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,160 think these are areas that are worth looking at because you might be able to find additional 189 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,600 landmarks or districts and as you know it on the map there are probably there are several areas 190 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:13,360 that were built in the 50s and 60s and we think these are areas worth looking at they could be 191 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:18,080 districts there they could be conservation districts so we don't know but it's really 192 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:25,680 important to go out and be able to identify those so our plan does prioritize these survey areas and 193 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:33,760 we think some should be done first versus others. The areas in red are what we think are potential 194 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:41,040 national register historic districts two of them are two of your existing local districts the oak 195 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:47,920 hickory and the west oak historic districts we think that they can become national register 196 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,320 districts and then recently the idiots hill neighborhood was surveyed that survey identified 197 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,720 five i think four or five national registered districts but we think you could probably just 198 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,440 get one in that neighborhood you don't need to do probably do five different ones but just one big 199 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:11,520 one so the areas in red are potential national registered districts we do recommend an expansion 200 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,600 of the oak hickory local historic district to the south one half block to the south of that 201 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,400 district to capture some properties we believe kind of belong in the district and we're not sure 202 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:28,000 why they were left out but we think they're they're worth taking a look at including them we do 203 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,800 identify five potential historic conservation districts these are areas where previous surveys 204 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,760 have identified them as conservation districts so we kind of reaffirmed some of those past 205 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:46,560 recommendations and last but not least there's another level of designation out there i'm sure 206 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,280 you're familiar with it's the texas recorded landmarks this is a designation by the state 207 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:58,080 and there are several recorded texas landmarks already in den we do recommend eight more of those 208 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:04,000 one of them we're standing in right now city hall we think is probably eligible to be a texas 209 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:11,680 landmark so so those are things to look at and i've already mentioned many of these and again 210 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:20,160 this goes to post world war ii development there are areas and it's kind of hard to sell mid-century 211 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:26,720 and ranch development sometimes is historic but they are and there are a number of cities here 212 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:33,120 in texas that have already designated mid-century neighborhoods as national register districts so 213 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:39,200 it's happening already in houston and in tyler and i think in dallas as well so these are areas to 214 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,800 look at so the post world war ii the styled ranches mid-century building types there are 215 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:50,720 probably two or three o'neill four buildings that are probably should be city landmarks out there so 216 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:58,000 we do identify those as well there are also some smaller scale industrial buildings but there's 217 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,840 one big industrial building that we think should be a local landmark so there's some smaller scale 218 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:10,400 industrial buildings to look at then the african-american experience in denton one of our 219 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,280 recommendations in the plan is to develop a complete context statement for the african-american 220 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:21,360 experience or locally there's a lot of research and writings already about the history here but 221 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:26,400 we think that that probably should be gathered a little bit more into one definitive context 222 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,800 statement and then we do recommending do recommend surveying the southeast side to be able to identify 223 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:38,560 more buildings and landmarks that relate to that context and then we do talk about the historic 224 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,360 signs we did notice there's a few historic signs here in denton that are worthy of maybe some 225 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:49,840 protection and again that relates the morrison milling building company so that might be a good 226 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:57,440 one to start with so we do in the plan we do talk about community development we do have a few 227 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:03,120 recommendations and incentives additional centers for the city to look at one of them is to 228 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:09,280 potentially expand the tax abatement program to all contributing buildings in local districts 229 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,600 because right now only city landmarks are eligible to use that that incentive program 230 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,120 and it's something to look at it may be able to encourage more investment into your into your 231 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:24,080 residential areas or encourage more people to to do improvement so we think that's 232 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:31,200 worth taking a look at we also recommend taking a look at some targeted adaptive use opportunities 233 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,560 and it really kind of relates to your downtown there are probably just a handful of buildings 234 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,440 where we think you could probably target some some incentives to encourage some building 235 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,400 rehabilitations to happen so there are a number of communities that have adapted i mean not adapted 236 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:55,440 but have adopted adaptive use ordinances and that allows for sometimes for expedited development 237 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,680 review or permit fee waivers or things like that in order to encourage some of that rehab activity 238 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:08,080 to happen and then last but not least we do we do talk about disaster mitigation for historical 239 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,520 resources being able to provide some information pieces to property owners about disaster mitigation 240 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,240 we also have recommendations in there about heritage tourism about trying to 241 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,240 encourage your cvb and other partners to do a little bit more in the marketing end of that 242 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:31,360 to market your heritage resources a bit more and then to promote the the adoption of a cultural 243 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:36,480 district in your downtown as well commissioner smith major oh i'm sorry what kind of partnerships 244 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,560 do you see with other cities doing this when you get involved when you say partnerships what does 245 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:47,520 that look like you flush that out for me a little bit in terms of uh well i think um i think uh you 246 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:53,760 know in terms of the heritage tourism aspect i think there could be more collaboration between 247 00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:00,800 the city the cvb maybe the denton county office of history and culture in your main shoe program to 248 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,800 try to do maybe market the heritage assets a bit more i think there's probably a little bit more 249 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:15,360 that could happen in that in that regard gotcha so thanks yeah thank you okay moving on um in terms 250 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:21,760 of program administration again this this relates to what the city does now administers its program 251 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,920 we do recommend a development of a city-wide design manual or city-wide design guidelines manual 252 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,280 and it's mainly meant to be an educational resource for local property owners if they 253 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,840 want to undertake a rehab project in their house that they could have a publication they could go 254 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,720 to and get some uh information about how to do things it would be really helpful um that they 255 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,680 could have this information as they plan their projects out and then when they go and go to 256 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,000 enrollment in front of the historic landmarks commission they uh can have a project that's 257 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,120 ready and meets the requirements for the design review so we think that that would be a very 258 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:06,720 helpful publication to have um our the draft plan also has a section in there on sustainability 259 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,800 guidelines for historic buildings um that is an increasing interest nationwide how do you incorporate 260 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,880 energy efficiency alternative energy systems in historic buildings and so we included a section 261 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,000 in there in the hopes that someday when you do develop a design guidelines or a design manual 262 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,840 that you can incorporate that information in there um we also recommend an additional tool in the 263 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,600 historic preservation ordinance once it's called a demolition delay ordinance um or a demolition 264 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,600 delay provision uh there uh dallas fort worth many other communities in texas have this in their 265 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:48,880 ordinance and it allows you to delay a demolition of a property that may be may have been identified 266 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:54,960 as significant through a survey but it's not designated as a local landmark or or it's not 267 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,040 included in the local district so it's just an additional tool to have so if a property is in 268 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,560 danger or it's being scheduled for demolition you could have some time to work with a property owner 269 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:13,120 on devising an alternative solution to demolition yes commissioner smith hey chair what are those 270 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:18,640 ordinances look like when there's a building those demolition delays is it a is it a citizen 271 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,400 petition referendum submitted to the city council is it a something that the city has power to go 272 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,040 in there and use what have you seen your path in the past for those types of ordinances how they're 273 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,880 formed sure it's usually incorporated within your historic preservation code within within the code 274 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,760 within your dentin development code it's included within the historic preservation section and 275 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,400 basically it all you would state and this is this would be up to the community how you would 276 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,920 structure it you would it would only apply to buildings that have been surveyed so those areas 277 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,080 that we've we've mapped out there i guess that's what i was gonna say is what what communities have 278 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,240 you seen who has it in their have it in there now what kind of procedures do they have currently in 279 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,880 that ordinance well in fort worth they uh in fort worth they have different levels of demolition 280 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,920 delay so for fort worth that they have gone into an area and they've surveyed it it's for all the 281 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,600 properties you've surveyed so in those surveys if you identified highly significant property it's 282 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,080 eligible for the national register it's eligible for local landmark and they're subject to maybe a 283 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,120 90 day delay so if a property owner wanted or somebody wanted to come in and take that building 284 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:33,040 out that demolition would be delayed for 90 days and so that would have no matter what there's not 285 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,000 a citizen citizens don't have to step in and say something they automatically gets delayed correct 286 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:46,720 and then the the delay time period goes down by significance so if you have a survey and it 287 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,440 only identifies as a property is potentially contributing to a district then it may be a 30 288 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:58,320 day delay okay cool thank you sure and then uh the other recommended major recommendation we have 289 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,840 is any future clg grants that you secure it would be good to try to use those to designate more 290 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,360 districts national register districts and we think that would be a good use of that money um now that 291 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,320 you've done a plan you don't need to do another one so we'd rather see you use those monies to get 292 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:21,200 more districts and nominated um and then education and advocacy we have many different recommendations 293 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,960 on that and this is where there could be more potential collaboration for between different 294 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,760 partners one recommendation we have is to develop an online portal a digital portal for survey 295 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,840 information so if i was a property owner and i bought a building somewhere in dentin i want to 296 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,200 find it find out if it's been surveyed or if it has any information on the history of the building 297 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:49,120 i can go online click on a map click my property and what would pop up would be an information 298 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:56,320 sheet the survey information sheet so we see many communities putting that online as just an 299 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,960 information resource for property owners we do recommend expanding partnerships with the county 300 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,160 they have a number of programs we did have a nice interview session with them they have a number of 301 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,520 programs we think that you can partner with and then providing some more hands-on preservation 302 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,720 learning workshops an opportunity for property owners to understand what what they can or cannot 303 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:26,080 do to their buildings in san antonio texas for instance they have twice a year a hands-on workshop 304 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,160 on how to restore historic windows so it's just it's just an opportunity for people to learn more 305 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,760 about what they can do with their buildings and last but not least there is an implementation 306 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,920 section in the plan we have a chart near that gives timelines for for certain activities who 307 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,880 could be potential partners and then what are the other funding sources that are out there to do 308 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:56,640 things and then last but not least there are many benefits to preservation you know it's it's 309 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,520 certainly preservation has had a significant impact here in the community we think it could 310 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:08,080 it could have more but i think the plan really kind of stresses preservation as a sustainability 311 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,840 strategy that that did come out in your dentin 2030 plan and we wanted sort of to continue that 312 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:22,160 that emphasis so so that's it and then i guess the next steps uh if you want to comment on next steps 313 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,480 we had done a little bit of a delay and we meant for this plan to be an attachment in this 314 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:34,960 agenda but we'll have it i believe we determined by next friday in the friday report it'll go out 315 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,360 if not sooner to y'all directly we can do that and then we're going to come back here in this 316 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:48,560 order hlc september 9th that'll be myself and i'll be here on that final presentation asking 317 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,800 for your recommendation to city council where you guys will be these guys will be back to 318 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,480 present it to city council mr beck thank you chair thanks roman and thank you sir 319 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,760 because i have a hard time with your name too um we we seem to talk mainly about buildings but 320 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:13,040 nothing was mentioned about things like landmarks just maybe a wall a stone wall or something like 321 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:19,360 that is that incorporated into what we're trying to preserve here those type of things well not 322 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,080 that i can think of any offhand but no there are the you know there's there's the landmarks and 323 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,120 there's the trees issue which we have the current code that we have the current code says that we'll 324 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:35,440 use our landmark designation process to designate trees but we haven't actually refined that down 325 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:41,840 because when we do a landmark we landmark a plot of land and with the trees how do you do it and 326 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,640 i think you probably come up with the same kind of challenge on how to do a land a specific 327 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,400 there's one do you think i want specifically well in a way i guess it is kind of a building i went 328 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,920 out with jason cole on his property a couple weeks back and there is an old building out there that's 329 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,600 gutted that was part of his family turn of the century type stuff where they kept things and 330 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:12,080 it's got some stone walls the building itself and just that general area has some historical 331 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,440 significance we're fixing to develop well not fixing to but you know that that's the area that's 332 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,560 going to be developed over the next 20 years so that's something we didn't cover that much 333 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,560 you talk a little bit about that the easement you recommend in there yeah you know i just gave 334 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:34,320 the kind of the highlights of the plan but we do have a few other things in there uh that we 335 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:42,080 recommend one other tool to think about is um you know beyond landmarking you could ask for easements 336 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,320 you know as a tool uh there are communities out there and it's sometimes this is mainly tied to 337 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:55,600 downtowns or commercial districts where you're providing an incentive um to rehab the building 338 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,360 some cities will will require uh not so much if it's not eligible for landmarking you could be 339 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,480 eligible for landmarking but in return to get a grant you have to submit an easement to the 340 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,600 building so that no future property owner can do any other alterations to it you can't apply 341 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:18,400 easements to so you know districts or special or infrastructure elements that you feel like are 342 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:24,880 important to a historic district that are worth maintaining um so the other thing too is you can't 343 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,720 put in your eligibility uh because you have to have eligibility requirements to be a local landmark 344 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:37,600 and you can make make it more specific where if there are landscape elements or even you know 345 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:43,280 archaeological ruins or partial buildings if they are significant in some way that they they could 346 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:49,120 be eligible for landmarking down the road when you talked about we'll use idiot field as a specific 347 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,720 area so are you looking at that area as a designation or all the houses individually 348 00:34:54,720 --> 00:35:00,800 going to be considered uh part of a historical it'd be part of a district okay yeah part of a 349 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,360 larger district one thing that came to mind and i've talked to ron about this i used to 350 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,000 used to live in a house that i thought had some historical significance the guy who built it 351 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,760 there's still the old frame house next door where he lived and he owned about 35 acres which just 352 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,600 sits just opposite of sherman drive where idiot steel was and i'll want to talk to roman later 353 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:28,000 about still getting over there and trying to uh hold that but um i guess my concern is when i 354 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,240 sold the house the guy went in and just there was a lot of nice old stuff there there was 355 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:39,520 a trim that uh you don't see anymore there was the old broom sweep texture and so if we 356 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:47,680 is there any way we can know if some of these older houses in these uh potential areas uh have 357 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,480 traded hands or getting sold that the city can kind of learn them about you know hey you got 358 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,080 a potential for being a historical landmark you know so consider about what you're going to do 359 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,400 as far as changing stuff like that is there any not that we could stop them but at least we could 360 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,040 you know be alerted and alert them to the fact that am i making sense there yeah okay uh you 361 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:15,120 know that's why i think um a design a design manual would be really helpful because you you 362 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,040 can't you i mean even though you're not going to regulate the interior you can't put stuff in there 363 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,160 to talk about finishes that buyer is going to be aware of it though yes that's what i was asking 364 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,840 how do we make that buyer aware that yeah you can you can you can talk about typical finishes of a 365 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,280 mid-century ranch house that you probably don't want to touch or destroy you know it's good to 366 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,680 it's you know you have wide flexibility to put that type of information in a design manual even 367 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,200 though you're not may not work regulated right okay i would add to that that i think that that 368 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,920 i can't stress enough that i think the new conservation district language that we have 369 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,280 now in the code um should be utilized i mean the idiots hill like said they recommended five 370 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,880 national districts in there um and local districts and what have you there are some really um 371 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:10,320 top-notch respected architects who did work in um their um the comes of mind is the fellow that 372 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,120 worked on datco and laney roland laney um but and many others but the end course fairhaven is there 373 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:23,200 is o'neill ford is right nearby but the conservation district which we could do think about is just 374 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,760 putting a conservation district around the whole area and i think the support is there in my 375 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,640 experience from people i've talked to all around there's there's not any opposition it's just a 376 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,160 matter of getting it done um and with the conservation district around it again you 377 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,960 won't you don't stress the hlc it's only they're only going to see a total demolition or a new 378 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,840 construction otherwise it's just a staff look at it but then when those can be marked in the county 379 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,880 you know at least they'll have some designation hd or something will be in there as there is today 380 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,800 you know for look for historic districts in the landmark so i think that would be one way to to 381 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:10,720 accomplish it to help i don't see any other questions appreciate you very much being here 382 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:18,240 and presenting to us thank you thank you uh so as stated earlier we're going to jump back into item 383 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,720 one on the agenda for this evening and go through the agenda items i just want to let the records 384 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:27,360 show that commissioner pernetta and commissioner sanchez have joined us uh commissioner cole is 385 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:35,760 still absent um first item on the agenda is the minutes and we had an update that was distributed 386 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,080 in terms of the who's absent who's present is there any other updates that need to happen to the 387 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:50,480 minutes great the next item of business is the consent agenda and i'll certainly open to questions 388 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:59,440 any item first we did get an update on the first item 3a so i do want hayley to update us on the 389 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,960 new draft we got yeah just one quick cleanup item on the plat there was a previous note four that 390 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,040 referenced um there was a reference to actually an older plat that this company had done and 391 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,120 they realized that was an error being left on this plat so they just removed that and sent over a new 392 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,400 draft um i don't know if any of you noticed that it was a note referencing cross access to an adjoining 393 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,920 property to the north that doesn't actually exist so they cleaned that up um and provided this new 394 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:32,320 copy for you all this evening great any questions about this item or really item 3b while hayley's 395 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:51,200 up here great thank you hayley is there any other questions on 3cd or 3e seeing none we'll move into 396 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:59,280 the items for individual consideration that is item 4a 80p 18-0006 and i'll invite cindy jackson 397 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:07,280 for presentation on this item thank you chair commission let me go ahead and bring up my 398 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:27,920 presentation okay i'm hearing before you tonight with a request for an alternate development plan 399 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:42,800 adp number 18-0006 the applicant is requesting to deviate from sections 35 13 13 for non-residential 400 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:50,560 and mixed use buildings and section 35 13 10 access parking and circulation requirements 401 00:40:52,720 --> 00:41:02,080 the um i should note that 35 13 oops 10 uh staff worked with the applicant and that issue was 402 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:09,040 resolved so that is not part of this request tonight the site is uh consists of 3.42 acres 403 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:16,720 located in the nrmu district and the applicant is proposing professional office park the future 404 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:21,840 land use designation of the site is neighborhood mixed use which does correspond with the nrmu 405 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:27,280 district this is applied to neighborhoods or districts where the predominant use is residential 406 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:36,400 however they want to have a neighborhood service office type component in it and this one of the 407 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,600 requirements in this is to ensure that buildings are of appropriate scale and intensity to complement 408 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:50,960 the surrounding neighborhood the proposed deviations as listed section 35 i can read all 409 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,240 of these different section numbers if you want or i can just go through the deviations i think 410 00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:02,000 going through the deviations will be adequate okay thanks um the requirements that buildings have 411 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,360 their primary orientation towards the street rather than the parking area and the primary 412 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,480 entrance to each building must be readily apparent as a prominent architectural component and visible 413 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,480 from the street the proposed deviation is that all buildings are set back a minimum of 20 feet along 414 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,640 teesley lane the setback distance is required requested both to preserve existing trees and 415 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,280 due to the location of a 20 foot utility easement along teesley lane and that also applies to the 416 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,240 next deviation which requires at least 60 percent of the street frontage to have buildings within 417 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:42,160 10 feet of the front property line again that 20 foot required easement along teesley lane prevents 418 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:49,040 the buildings from getting that close to the property to the property line developments shall 419 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:56,000 have a minimum floor area of 0.4 plazas and pedestrian areas shall count as floor area for 420 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:04,480 the purpose of meeting the minimum far the site is shown has an far of 0.23 excluding the pedestrian 421 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:13,760 areas and plazas if you add them in they have an far of 0.27 the um purpose for the deviation as 422 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,520 you'll see in my nest exhibit is the uh easements that are on the property there are so many easements 423 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,120 on the property it would be difficult to bring that the site up to the full far without going very tall 424 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:32,960 the next one is parking area shall be located behind buildings or on one or both sides 425 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,600 what the way the applicant has designed this has the site design is that you we have one row of 426 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:50,160 parking in front of each building and um this also will provide a pedestrian access into the area the 427 00:43:50,160 --> 00:44:00,960 site as you can see the site is pretty deep it's deeper than it is wide and with having the one 428 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,120 row of parking along the um the front of the buildings it also provides sidewalk access 429 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:15,520 all from cheesely all the way back to the back of the site enabling the pedestrian yes sir 430 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:23,440 thank you chair could you show us where the walkways are the walkways are right here 431 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,360 okay and here and here you'll see it better on another slide that doesn't have all the easements 432 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,480 okay and while i'm on it too we we talk about this being a pedestrian oriented bill so can we 433 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:40,560 address the is there a sidewalk out for sidewalks all along here along here along oh yes definitely 434 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:47,520 okay okay couldn't quite pull that out myself thank you and the final deviation is uh the 435 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,320 building shall be set back not more than 15 feet of the right of way and we already talked about 436 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:59,760 that this is an exhibit showing the all the easements that um encumber the site there is 437 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:07,840 the 20-foot utility easement which i spoke of there is a tp and l easement along the the front 438 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:15,040 portion of the site this is a court ordered access easement to this site this lot right over here 439 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:25,200 this is a 30-foot access easement and this is a 35-foot drainage easement so there there there are 440 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,320 a lot of easements on the site which uh the applicant had to work around in order to develop 441 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:37,680 the site kister smith what exactly is a court ordered access easement well from my understanding 442 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,800 is the former property owner of this site would not give access to the property owner here and 443 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:52,720 this is a landlocked um lot the south the southern lot is a landlocked lot yes yes it is the the 444 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:59,680 southern the southwestern lot and uh from my understanding is the court ordered this this um 445 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:05,120 the previous property owner to provide access so does that mean that the so it's got to carry 446 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,720 over obviously for an easement but does that mean that the within that can the southern lot owner 447 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:15,840 then come back and say well according to your site plan it bends back around it comes back around 448 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,200 the road everything comes back around this other side on the south uh east corner of the buildings 449 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,800 down there that's exactly the configuration of this so the southern the southern plot owner 450 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,960 plotter come back and say well we need you to stub that out for us now and do that is that 451 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,240 there if the aerial already shows that it connects with their driveway 452 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,400 okay so well let's wait for that so and there is this access easement right here as well 453 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:48,400 that they can access the site from as well if the site ever develops right now there's a house on it 454 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:55,760 if but if it ever develops in the nrmu district or in uh to more single family there is access 455 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:02,880 through this and this the applicant tried to work with the um property owner to change the 456 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:11,120 configuration of this but they wouldn't work with them does the looking at the site plan right now 457 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,840 or that site plan i'm sorry the location i guess i never realized that the reason why that driveway 458 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:22,320 was there but is that the only driveway for that person to get to their house uh my understand 459 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:30,480 from what i can tell yes interesting so whenever they develop this this could possibly make it 460 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,480 to where that that homeowner would be very hard for them to get to their house during the construction 461 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,040 times or i'm assuming the quarter access easement probably has regulations within there that that 462 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,680 road has to stay open for them to get to and from their home exactly even during construction they 463 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:54,240 have to keep that open okay that's weird thanks okay the site plan um proposes seven buildings 464 00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,880 there are all office buildings comprising of general office and medical office and for a 465 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:09,360 total of 33,800 square feet there are 122 parking spaces on the site the lot coverage is required 466 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:15,200 to be a minimum uh excuse me a maximum of 80 percent and the lot coverage proposed is 73 467 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:21,760 percent and the landscaping a minimum of 27 percent uh 20 percent and they're providing 27 468 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,280 percent and the same with the tree canopy 20 percent minimum and they're providing 27 percent 469 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,240 so they are providing more open space and trees for the site than what is required 470 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:39,120 maximum building height permitted is 65 feet and in keeping with the character of the neighborhood 471 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:47,840 the applicant is going as high as 30 feet the far as we discussed uh 0.04 is the maximum required 472 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:57,760 and um 0.027 is what they are providing the key site features that the applicant is proposing 473 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,520 a pedestrian plaza with a primary area of tree preservation along teesley you can see this right 474 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:10,880 here the provision the provision of a significant 32 inch post oak located between building three 475 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:20,400 and teesley lane in this area here uh enhanced tree preservation they are preserving 100 percent 476 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:28,400 of the protected trees 100 is required however if um they remove any that we have requirements 477 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:35,360 for them to uh mitigate that the applicant's preserving all of them 77 percent of quality 478 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:42,000 trees are preserved only 25 percent is required 85 percent of secondary trees are preferred 479 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:49,040 preserved only 12.5 percent of preservation is required there is sidewalk connectivity from 480 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,440 teesley you can see the sidewalk along teesley here and they've got sidewalk connectivity all 481 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:02,080 the way along to the back on both sides kister beck thank you chair cindy is there currently 482 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,600 sidewalk on both sides of that property where it would connect to is that the the road is 483 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:15,840 partially under construction okay so um i i i'm not sure at this time because it's been torn up 484 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,480 as it widens as the state comes in and widens that would they be putting the sidewalks in it 485 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:31,520 okay thanks now section 35.13.5 a of the dent development cove gives us criteria for approval 486 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,680 of uh alternate development plans the first is to preserve existing neighborhoods the proposed 487 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,360 office park is similar in nature to the office park located to the east of the side across 488 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,400 teesley lane neighborhood scale commercial developments provide effective buffers between 489 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,600 single family districts and commercial corridors the site is surrounded by single family and it 490 00:50:53,600 --> 00:51:00,240 does provide a buffer the applicant will be excuse me ensure quality development the applicant will 491 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:05,360 be required to adhere to all develop all requirements of the dent development code with the exception 492 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:11,600 of those regulations noted that the applicant is requesting to deviate from the site is designated 493 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,640 as a pedestrian oriented neighborhood and the amenities provided on the site such as the 494 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:22,400 increased tree preservation pedestrian connectivity into the site and the provision of a pedestrian 495 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,000 plaza in front of the site enhance the pedestrian character of the area 496 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,360 focus new development to activity centers to curb strip development and urban sprawl 497 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:39,040 the proposed office park development is located within an area designated for neighborhood mixed 498 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,400 use on the future land use map commercial development of the scale proposed for this 499 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,280 site is the type of the development expected in these locations it provides neighborhood 500 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,680 scale development with enhanced pedestrian amenities that will help provide a sense of 501 00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:02,240 place to the area proposal meets the criteria for approval i'm sorry ensure the infrastructure 502 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:08,800 is capable of accommodating development prior to the development occurring development around the 503 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,640 subject site have already brought water and sewer connections to the area traffic along 504 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,480 teesley road can be problematic however text dot has plans for the improvement of the road in the 505 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,560 future it had already started however there were problems with the contractor and text dot is in 506 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:34,480 the process of hiring a new contractor because teesley lane is a text dot road driveway connections 507 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:40,560 and drainage onto teesley will be reviewed and approved by text dot prior to construction the 508 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:46,400 drainage is a new thing that they are reviewing now it should be noted that if text dot review 509 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,960 requires revisions to the site which would affect this site plan or require key drainage features 510 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:59,120 such as a detention pond that they will have to come back to you for a revised adp site plan approval 511 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:07,520 results in high quality development meeting the intent of the standards the key site features 512 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,640 proposed by the applicant will achieve an enhanced pedestrian oriented development as noted before 513 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,640 there is enhanced pedestrian connectivity that ties into text dot sidewalks along teesley lane 514 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:25,040 or they will once the sidewalks are constructed a pedestrian plaza within a primary area of tree 515 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:32,560 preservation along teesley lane the preservation of a significant 32 inch post oak between building 516 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:39,120 three and teesley and the enhanced tree protection that i i mentioned earlier and there is sidewalk 517 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,760 connectivity from teesley lane throughout the entire site so that the people can actually just 518 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,760 walk to the site and safely walk to whatever building they're going to instead of trying to 519 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:56,320 reverse the park the parking lots staff recommends approval of this request as it meets the established 520 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:04,080 requirements for approval of an adp in the ddc section 35 13 5a and that concludes my presentation 521 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,680 christopher thank you chair i wish uh richard was here today but maybe you can answer this and 522 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:15,440 correct so correct me if i'm wrong on this wasn't there some breakdown between the state and the 523 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:23,280 contractor on widening teesley that that's come to a halt right now is that a little off topic 524 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,960 pardon me it's off topic for the agenda well what the reason i'm bringing it up is if that 525 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:35,840 thing is stalled if teesley widening installed how that impact is developed can they move forward 526 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:42,320 completely even though the teesley widening or are they going to be restricted some the applicant 527 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,880 has accounted for the the widening of teesley on their site plan they've already they are not 528 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,280 encroaching into any of the variety of way that will be constructed with the widening okay so if 529 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:59,040 teesley the widening of teesley to the lead that shouldn't impact them okay thank you commissioner smith 530 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,760 cool things i guess i'll get the i'll have my questions out of the way then i'll get something 531 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:09,920 logistically out of the way on the there's a there's a pond behind the the lot behind yes 532 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,440 completely separate yes is that a retention pond or is that a yes that's a drainage easement back 533 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,440 okay so cool they'll be they'll be where they'll they'll retain all their water from building the 534 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,040 parking lot um there is no connection when i was asking that question but there's a driveway to 535 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:28,400 that house now and that looks like that's the only way in and out for that home their site plan one 536 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,040 we're only improving adp so the site plan that's in the adp yes there'll be there'll be a review 537 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,400 of that correct so to make sure that that if that's the only way in and out for that person we 538 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,040 shouldn't construct a road that doesn't let them have access to their house we are going to ensure 539 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,520 that that that that property owner will have access to their property gotcha okay that's what 540 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,800 i wanted to make sure of uh and then logistically because we're no longer discussing the parking 541 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:56,640 uh do we need to whenever we make a motion do we need to remove because the noticed item has that 542 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,560 section in there for you know we're looking at parking do we need to have our motion 543 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,760 remove that from the noticed item or can we just approve a staff recommendation so we're fine 544 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,560 because i'm not following there was no notice for this oh i'm sorry this is an individual 545 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:16,560 right consideration okay never mind thank you any other question would make it easier i could 546 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,920 just take that off of my presentation when i make it in the chamber i guess it was more of a question 547 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,840 of it's it's not so much notice as it was it was in the agenda which is publicly posted so to make 548 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,680 sure that we know if we put up there so yeah that item was approved it's like oh what what changes 549 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,680 with parking did you guys approve well we actually didn't do anything to it they actually complied 550 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,400 with the parking requirements actually if we need to make it's not really a big issue i'm not picking 551 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,320 a bone here it's making sure there's nothing we need to say to denote that that we actually 552 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,400 didn't vote on that piece whatsoever even though it was on the agenda you certainly could there's 553 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,600 certainly no harm in it okay any other questions 554 00:56:53,600 --> 00:57:03,840 okay thank you very much cindy thank you the next item of business is agenda item 5a it is the 555 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:12,880 continuing delay of this item the aesa 19-1c it is already opened so as we go to public 556 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:19,840 session i'll just ask for a vote to postpone this to a date certain of september 18th but 557 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:25,280 we won't open the public hearing since it's already opened we'll just look for a vote there 558 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:34,080 next is item 5b fr 18-0013 it's a replat presented by hayley 559 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:51,520 this request is for a replat of a single parcel it's located just off of i-35 where avenue a and 560 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,720 mccormick street currently intersect um you all may remember about a year ago we had a rezoning 561 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,880 request for this site for the expansion of the fire station so it's currently zoned dcg 562 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,320 the fire station today exists on this portion of the property that was previously unplatted 563 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,520 this lot also takes in a portion of the mccormick street right of way that council elected to 564 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:18,560 permanently close back in 2018 and then this is the former royal in addition lot a portion of which 565 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,960 was taken by tex dot so all three of those pieces are now being combined into one lot with the 566 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,720 intent of developing a new larger fire station on the western side of the property happy to 567 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,720 answer any questions christia ellis thank you chair hayley it's just with regard to the the response 568 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:44,080 that was uh given regarding um underwood was that ever addressed for them it's my understanding that 569 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,600 there's no intent at all to close underwood street um i haven't heard from that person any further 570 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:57,680 since their their response that was given okay christia beck thank you chair looking at the 571 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:05,920 outline on the uh notification map uh it looks like it's incorporated part of avenue a into that 572 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:12,800 is that just uh i believe that's just an error mapping how are they going to get up that way 573 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,760 looking for an alleyway or something thank you any other questions thank you very much hayley 574 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:27,120 next item of business is item 5c fr 19-10 and this is julie wyatt's item presentation 575 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:40,080 you're probably familiar with this site this property is located adjacent to i-35 near the 576 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:48,240 unt campus um it was the carriage square shopping center that has since been been demolished they 577 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:55,200 are they're replatting the property subdividing it into two lots to facilitate a mixed use 578 00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:00,800 development on lot one which is the northern piece it's going to be a a combination retail 579 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,560 restaurant and multi-family with a wrapped parking garage 580 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:16,240 any questions for julie christia sanchez when you say multi-family is is this going to be 581 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,760 geared towards students is that do we know it just out of curiosity i don't know who their 582 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,800 perspective um i would imagine it would it would have a lot of students just because it's near the 583 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:40,880 campus any other questions for julie thank you very much julie that concludes our uh walkthrough 584 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:47,280 the agenda for this evening we have one more concluding item and that is item 2b uh and so 585 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,960 with that i'll say it's um just a couple things about commissioner sanchez as this is his last 586 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:58,960 evening uh serving with us this uh tonight so before we break i just wanted to uh thank you 587 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:05,600 for all that you've done for planning zoning i know just by accepting the position as a city 588 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,600 commissioner there's a commitment and an involvement uh that is baseline but you didn't just show up you 589 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:18,640 came engaged studied and asked a lot of questions and helped all of our commissioners and so i 590 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,600 appreciate that you didn't just have it as a checkbox every other wednesday that you came uh 591 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,880 ready to help and serve and i think you've shaped the conversation of our city in a unique way and 592 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,960 so i know specifically for me a lot of the environmental issues with trees and drainage 593 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,120 and all those things you brought a great perspective from your background and history and so 594 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:43,120 over the past two years and hundreds of unpaid service to the city i just wanted to personally 595 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,040 thank you on behalf of the commissioner the commissioners and the city of denton for all 596 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,280 your work we just want to recognize you for your service and say thank you very much for all you've 597 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,600 done and and hopefully through the past two years you've seen the inner workings and you're not 598 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,760 going to be a stranger in the meetings you'll come and speak to us and help us continue as 599 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:05,680 your schedule permits helping us try our best to plan and zone the city but with that we have a 600 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,520 certificate for you i'll have richard hand to you and i just wanted to say thank you 601 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,600 i'd like to say thank you and uh i tell you i learned a lot in these two years i know it's 602 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,760 opened my eyes on as to what's going on in the city as far as planning and zoning so 603 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:31,360 uh all i can say is i appreciate it if it wasn't uh and the reason why we're we're uh 604 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:37,840 i'm separating is my wife and i have decided we just bought us an rv and and brought us a truck 605 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,760 we plan on doing some traveling at my age i figured you know i better do it while i'm healthy 606 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,480 and so that's primarily what we plan on doing the next you know for the next couple years 607 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:53,840 and that's why i decided we decided to separate well all right enjoy your travels and be safe out 608 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,160 there all right thank you with that we'll close the oh yeah commissioner beck let me add something 609 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:03,120 here and i don't want to take uh commissioner sanchez thunder away and i thank you for your 610 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:08,640 great comments about i totally agree with it just so there's a little understanding in my situation 611 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:14,800 here and i'm sorry i'm throwing monkey wrench into this but i'm kind of on hold right now and i'm 612 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:20,640 going to keep everybody updated month to month it seems like but after talking with uh councilwoman 613 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:26,000 uh keely briggs until she feels comfortable with somebody i've agreed to stick around 614 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:32,480 as long as i possibly can until the circumstances that motivated me to consider resigning become 615 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,840 overwhelming or what so i may be here maybe only one more month i could be here several more months 616 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:43,440 and i apologize for any confusion that may cause anybody so but i wish uh commissioner sanchez all 617 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,920 the uh great fortune in the world and enjoy the travel man i wish i could be there with you 618 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,800 thank you thank you sir beck for that update uh any other words 619 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,640 with that we'll close the work session at 5 37 we'll meet back in council chambers at 6 30 620 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,920 good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the planning and zoning commission 621 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:10,720 meeting for august 21st 2019 seeing that we have a quorum i will call this meeting to order at 6 622 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,680 30 the first item of business is to stand and give a pledge of allegiance to the us and texas flag of able 623 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:24,080 pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic from which 624 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:29,760 it stands one nation under god indivisible liberty and justice for all 625 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:39,760 to be 626 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:47,600 the next item of business is to consider approval of the planning and zoning commission minutes and 627 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:54,000 just for the record i wanted to state that the public meeting correction should mimic the 628 01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:00,240 work session correction in terms of the attendance it was corrected for the work session minutes but 629 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:06,640 i wanted to make sure for the record we had the um public session minutes reflect the same changes 630 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:12,480 as the work session specifically that's uh commissioner pratt was present and absent was 631 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:20,720 commissioner beck and commissioner smith any are any discussion or motion for the minutes 632 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:28,960 commissioner smith move to approve the minutes for august 7th and for august 14th commissioner beck 633 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:36,080 all right 634 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,680 i can do it for the seventh but i can't do it for the 14th i forgot i wasn't there 635 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:46,240 i didn't mean to second that so i second for the seventh i wasn't here on the 14th 636 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:55,680 so can we take these in two different votes let's recuse your second do we have a second for the 637 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:03,680 august 7th yes yeah motion for the seven you're here for the seven you weren't here for the 14th 638 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:08,960 yes correct okay let's uh we have first and a second for the august 7th meeting we'll call 639 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:21,520 for vote on the board motion carries six zero commissioner smith uh move to approve the minutes 640 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,720 for august 14th commissioner pernetta second the motion we have a first and a second any discussion 641 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:35,440 seeing none i call for a vote on the board 642 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:43,280 motion carries five zero wonder cues all right thanks for helping me through that one 643 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,560 next item of business is the consent agenda 644 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:56,000 christian alice move approval we have a first for approval christian beck second we have a second 645 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,840 with the first and second any discussion scene nine i'll call for a vote on the board 646 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:13,680 motion carries six zero the next item of business is the items for individual consideration we have 647 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:31,600 one it's item 4a adp 18-0006 i'll invite cindy jackson for presentation 648 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:50,560 missioners adp 19 18-0006 is a request for approval of an alternate development plan to 649 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:58,240 deviate from section 35 13 13 4 non-residential mixed use buildings and section 35 13 10 access 650 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:05,600 parking and circulation requirements i would like to note that the second portion act 35 13 10 access 651 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:11,040 parking and circulation requirements is is no longer a requested deviation because the applicant 652 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:16,400 now um worked with staff i worked with the applicant and they now meet the requirement 653 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:25,040 the site is 3.42 acres and as you can see the site right here it is zoned in rmu the use proposed 654 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:33,040 for the site is professional office park the site is designated uh future on the future land use map 655 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:38,240 as neighborhood mixed use this is applied to neighborhoods or districts where the predominant 656 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:46,640 use is residential however it encourages neighborhood scale non-residential uses such as 657 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:55,200 neighborhood services and offices this designation also requires that we ensure that the buildings 658 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,360 are of appropriate scale and intensity to complement the surrounding neighborhood 659 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:06,640 the proposed deviations are as follows one is buildings shall have their primary orientation 660 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,680 towards the street rather than the parking area and the primary entrance must be readily apparent 661 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:17,040 as a prominent architectural component and visible from the street and at least 60 percent of the 662 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:23,760 street frontage shall have buildings within 10 feet of the property area and buildings 663 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,120 shall be set back no more than 15 feet from the right of way unless the area is used for pedestrian 664 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:36,560 activities such as plazas or outdoor eating areas all buildings will be set back a minimum of 20 665 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:44,560 feet along teesley lane due to the 20 foot utility easement that is located along teesley lane 666 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:54,160 the um next deviation would be development shall have a minimum floor area ratio of 0.04 667 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,240 the plazas and pedestrian areas shall count as floor area for the purpose of meeting the minimum 668 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:07,360 far the site is shown has an far of 0.23 and when you include the plazas and pedestrian areas it is 669 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:15,280 0.27 parking areas shall be located between the buildings or on one or both sides one row of 670 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:20,880 parking is provided in front of each building to facilitate pedestrian access to the buildings at 671 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:28,320 the rear of the site this exhibit shows the location of the easements on the site the site 672 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:34,720 is encumbered by quite a few easements as you can see which is what is preventing the applicant from 673 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:43,120 fully complying with the requested deviations this is the 20 foot utility easement which is preventing 674 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:51,440 the the front setback from moving more than 20 feet this is also a tp and l easement there is a 35 675 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:58,240 foot wide drainage easement along the western property line a 30 foot access easement along 676 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:04,960 the southern property line and then a court ordered access easement that bisects the site 677 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:20,400 site plan is shown shows seven buildings on the site and a total of 33,800 square feet of office 678 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:27,600 space is proposed they also have 122 parking spaces when looking at the requirements for the 679 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:35,200 nrmu district there is a maximum of 80 percent lot coverage required and the applicant only has 73 680 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:42,480 provided landscaping a minimum of 20 percent is required and the applicant is providing 27 percent 681 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:48,400 which exceeds the minimum tree canopy required is at 20 percent minimum and the applicant is 682 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:53,760 providing 27 percent which also exceeds the minimum the height of the buildings as proposed 683 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,040 is 30 feet when the maximum is 65 feet this is to keep it more in scale with the neighborhood 684 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:09,040 the far is um required is 0.4 and they're providing 0.27 685 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:17,520 key site features on the property include a pedestrian plaza with a primary area of tree 686 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:25,680 preservation pedestrian plaza is right in this location the preservation of a significant 32 687 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:32,000 inch post oak located between building number three and teesley lane enhanced tree preservation 688 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:39,600 100 percent of protected trees preserved um 77 percent of quality trees preserved on the site 689 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:47,360 when only 25 percent preservation is required 85 percent of secondary trees are preserved when 690 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:53,200 only 12.5 percent preservation is required the applicant is providing sidewalk connectivity from 691 01:12:53,200 --> 01:13:04,080 teesley lane through the entire site to enhance the pedestrian aspect section 35 13 5a provides the 692 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:10,000 criteria on that means to be met for approval of an alternate development plan the first one is to 693 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,840 observe for just existing neighborhoods the proposed office park is similar to the office park located 694 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,720 to the east of the site across teesley lane neighborhood scale and commercial development 695 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,360 commercial developments provide effective buffers between the single family districts and commercial 696 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:33,440 corridors and and there is single family all around this site and it is providing a buffer 697 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:39,760 for the single family to the west ensure quality development the applicant will be required to 698 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,920 adhere to all requirements of the dent in development code with the exception of those regulations 699 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:49,600 deviated from with this development as noted previously this this site is designated as a 700 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:55,040 pedestrian oriented neighborhood and the amenities provided on the site that i mentioned with the 701 01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:03,600 previous slide slide um enhance the pedestrian character of the neighborhood focus new development 702 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:09,440 on activity centers to curb strip development and urban sprawl the proposed office park development 703 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,520 is located in an area designated for neighborhood mixed use on the future land use map commercial 704 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:21,760 development of the scale proposed for this site is the type of development expected in these locations 705 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,680 this is not a strip development it is an office park it provides neighborhood scale development 706 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:34,640 and enhanced pedestrian amenities ensure the infrastructure is capable of accommodating 707 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:40,800 development prior to the development occurring the site all around the site areas all around 708 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,040 the site have already been developed they have already brought water and sewer to the area 709 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:52,880 traffic along teesley can be problematic however the tex dot has plans for the improvement of the 710 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:58,960 road in the future which will alleviate the congestion that issues because teesley lane 711 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,440 is a tax dot road driveway connections and drainage onto teesley will be reviewed and 712 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:08,960 approved by tex dot prior to construction should be noted that if the tax dot review 713 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:15,280 requires any site changes which affect the site plan elements that are the subject of this adp 714 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:22,720 as noted in the key in the proposed deviation table or the key site features previously noted 715 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:29,920 a revised adp will be required results in a high quality development meeting the intent of the 716 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:37,360 standards the key site features proposed by the applicant will achieve enhanced pedestrian 717 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:42,240 orientation and oriented development and i've already mentioned them several times 718 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,360 staff recommends approval of this request as it meets established requirements for the approval 719 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:56,800 of an adp in ddc 3513 5a that concludes my presentation and the applicant is present if 720 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:03,840 you have any questions thank you very much much cindy any questions i do not see anything thank 721 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,040 you the applicant is here and i believe you have a presentation 722 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,600 if you just state your name and address for the record you'll be provided 10 minutes for 723 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:21,280 the presentation good evening commissioners i'm not going to go through and repeat what cindy just 724 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:27,520 said i do want to address a couple of questions that came up during the work session very briefly 725 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,800 and then i want to give you an example of a recent office park development that the same property 726 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,960 owner and developer just completed just so you can see some pictures of what something similar 727 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,760 that we're going to do so the easement by right that cuts through the middle of our property was 728 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:48,480 a topic of discussion during the work session and just want to clarify that that arose it was a 729 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:54,480 court-ordered easement and it's it was written as an easement by right rather than an easement by 730 01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:01,360 necessity it was a dispute between the neighbor and the previous property owner and the way the 731 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:08,720 court order was written it established an easement that we have absolutely no way to remove 732 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:15,520 and the property owner to our south who who was granted the easement would would have to agree to 733 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,360 move it and my client did meet with her several times and she's just not willing to relocate that 734 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:28,880 easement so the peculiarity of our site plan is partially due to maintaining that easement for her 735 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:34,080 and we do intend all through construction to make sure that she has access within her easement we'll 736 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,720 do one lane at a time whatever it takes to make sure that she has access when we construct the 737 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,760 south drive she will have an alternate access that she is welcome to use it will be another public 738 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:51,280 access easement but we we have no way to remove the easement as it exists today and in terms of 739 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:57,200 text dot timing as it relates to the construction of our project and the latest update from text 740 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,760 dot was issued on july 17th and at that point in time they were still in the bidding process to 741 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:07,600 select a new contractor and we do still think that they will be coming in ahead of us and 742 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:14,240 constructing the sidewalk and we still have to go through platting text dot access permits and you 743 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:19,840 know civil plans and building permits so it's going to take us some time and we do understand 744 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:25,360 that the burden is on us to construct those improvements if we get there first and then 745 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:30,800 lastly there was a question in regarding drainage and cindy showed you a 35 foot drainage easement 746 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:37,680 on our western property line and that is actually an existing concrete flume that the property owner 747 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:43,520 constructed in conjunction with request by the city's engineering department to alleviate some 748 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,120 drainage concerns with the bent oaks neighborhood to our north and it was designed and constructed 749 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:54,720 to handle all drainage at fully developed conditions of course we'll have to demonstrate 750 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,720 that when we come in with our civil plans but we do anticipate that it will handle everything that we 751 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:06,240 bring in and then with that i just want to show you quickly this is emory office park which you guys 752 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:14,000 saw a replat on relatively recently i think that's the only thing that had to come to you 753 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:19,440 but this is six professional office buildings located on bonnie bray and emory near razor 754 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:24,400 ranch that we just completed the the construction of the sixth building it's going to be the same 755 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:29,280 contractor same architect same developer and same property owner so just wanted to give you an 756 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:35,280 example of it will be residential style single story construction that is compatible with the 757 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,440 neighborhood and that's all i have but i'm happy happy to answer any questions 758 01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:46,000 thank you for the presentation and giving us those contacts i don't see any questions at this time 759 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,760 this is an item for individual consideration so at any time we can discuss or make a motion if 760 01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,800 there's someone out in the public they would like to speak certainly provide that opportunity to do 761 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:08,080 so but the chair would entertain a motion or discussion on the item to mr smith motion to 762 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:13,760 approve we have a first for approval commissioner pernetta second the motion we have a first and a 763 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:20,640 second for approval any discussion seeing none i'll call for vote on the board 764 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:33,840 motion carries six zero next item of business is item uh five a it's the first of our public 765 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:42,560 hearings it's a esa 19-0001c this item has been previously opened and postponed to this date 766 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:50,880 and staff is looking for us to consider a motion to move this to a date certain of september 18th 767 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:58,720 commissioner smith motion to uh to uh postpone till september 18th date certain we have a first 768 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:03,280 commissioner pernetta second the motion to postpone we have a first and a second to postpone to a date 769 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,840 certain of september 18th any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board 770 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,400 the motion carries five zero 771 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:25,920 next item of business is five b and that is the final replat 18-0013 772 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,880 can you pull those results 773 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:38,160 were you refusing christian pernetta no i get uh 774 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,880 yeah can we vote by show of hands just so we can address the record for the previous item 775 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,520 five a to postpone to a date certain all those in favor can you raise your hand 776 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:56,720 okay so motion carries six zero let the record state that all commissioners voted for 777 01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:05,120 minus jason cole who is absent that now brings us item 5b fr 18-0013 778 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:12,080 and i'll invite hayley for presentation good evening this is a replat of lot one r block a 779 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:18,320 of fire station number three edition um this replat is combining um currently unplotted property 780 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,120 where the existing fire station is located on the east side of the property with the mccormick street 781 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:28,320 right of way that's been permanently closed by city ordinance south of underwood street along with 782 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:35,120 the remainder of the old royal n edition lot one part of which was taken by tex dot the intent of 783 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:40,240 the replat is just to consolidate the site for the redevelopment of a larger fire station on the 784 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:48,640 property i'm happy to answer any questions i did not see thank you if i did not this is a public 785 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,960 hearing i want to make sure that that's open and uh the public can certainly speak to this 786 01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:01,040 replat if they would like seeing none i'll close the public hearing christopher netta motion to 787 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,080 approve we have a first for approval christopher smith second we have first and second for approval 788 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:17,520 any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board motion carries six zero the next item 789 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:24,320 of business is item 5c fr 19-0010 i will open the public here and invite julie for presentation 790 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:32,080 good evening i'm julie wyatt senior planner with the city of denton 791 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:39,600 and this replat is for the carriage square edition the intent of the the replat is to 792 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:46,880 subdivide a previously platted piece of property for redevelopment they intend to develop the 793 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:54,320 the northern lot lot one with a mixed use development which includes um retail space 794 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,880 restaurant space and um and a multi-family development with it with a structured parking 795 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:05,600 garage i'll stand for any questions commissioner ellis thank you jim julie there's nothing planned 796 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:14,000 right now for lot two is that correct correct okay i do not see any other questions all right thank 797 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,200 you so much this is a public hearing anyone wishing to speak may certainly do so 798 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:23,840 seeing none i will close public hearing and turn to the dance for a discussion our motion 799 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,400 commissioner smith motion to approve we have a first for approval christopher netta second 800 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:34,560 we have first and second for approval any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote on the board 801 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:46,240 motion carries six zero that brings us to our final item for this evening which is the plan 802 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:51,120 zoning commission project matrix i will turn it over to richard for an update and then open 803 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:59,840 to the commissioners for discussion briefly i have excuse me um no real updates on the on the matrix 804 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:06,400 i just wanted to provide a a quick update on last night's city council meeting they did approve the 805 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:15,120 the two ordinances um relative to the house bills uh with the uh i think it was the 2439 the building 806 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:20,400 materials that did include the the additional whereas clause that was requested by by the 807 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:27,760 commission so that was incorporated uh they also heard the fireside uh item the rezoned the overlay 808 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:34,720 conditions that were requested to be modified council did not take action but deferred or 809 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:39,520 postponed that item until september 10th and so there were some questions with respect to 810 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:45,120 obviously the fence and and the trees and how that would how that would work and coordinate with the 811 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:51,520 electric lines so i'll update you after after that and if you saw in the work session in the paper 812 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:57,120 this morning there was also a a work session item on sort of development fees so we'll be bringing 813 01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:03,280 that back um very shortly with those the actual fee ordinance as part of the budget and with that 814 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,200 i have nothing more to add any discussion for the matrix 815 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:13,680 christopher sanchez this is your last evening would you like to add anything just to put 816 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:19,840 work on the plate of city staff as a going away president not really well as we mentioned early 817 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,920 in work session i just wanted to thank you again for your service uh and wish you the best in your 818 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:29,280 travels and enjoy the rb trips be safe out there thank you with that i will close our 819 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,320 our meeting for this evening at 6 52.