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 Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for

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 Wednesday, June 26, 2024.

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 This is our work session and with the quorum present, I will call us to order at 5.04 p.m.

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 Let the record show that Commissioners Thaggard and Padrone are absent at this time.

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 First item on our work session is the citizen comment for consent agenda items.

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 I don't see anyone here for that.

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 So we will move on to our clarification of agenda items for tonight's meeting.

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 First being the minutes for June 12.

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 Any questions, comments?

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 Okay.

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 Next, we have one item on consent agenda.

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 Is there any questions there?

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 No?

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 I thank you, Barnes, for being available.

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 Okay.

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 Next move on to our items for individual consideration we've had.

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 We had quite a few emails that some of them came pretty late, so we'll go through these.

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 First one is 4AFP24002 format is here for presentation of that item.

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 Good evening.

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 No, no, it's afternoon.

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 Good afternoon.

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 Good afternoon.

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 All right.

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 Here we go.

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 This is not the right one.

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 Here we go.

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 All right.

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 Good afternoon.

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 Matt Bodine, assistant planner, presenting this plaque on behalf of Sean Jacobson.

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 So this is a final plaque or here to consider a quest of a final plaque of Sage Creek.

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 No, this is not the right one.

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 Never mind.

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 Yes, this is not Sean's one though.

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 Here we go.

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 Sage Creek.

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 All right.

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 Here we go.

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 Now we're ready.

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 All right.

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 So this is a request of the final plot of Sage Creek townhomes in approximately 24 acre

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 site located at the intersection of Audreau Lane and Lattimore Street.

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 This applies to establish 163 residential townhome lots, nine common area lots and the necessary

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 easements and right away.

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 Staff is recommending denial of this plot as is because it does not meet their criteria

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 for approval.

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 We have no objection to the requested extension to a date of July 24th and this would be the

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 first extension request.

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 Thank you, Matt.

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 Any questions?

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 Okay.

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 Appreciate it.

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 Thank you very much.

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 The next several items B through F, we do have a commissioner wanting to recuse on those

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 items, but if we do that, we will lose the quorum.

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 So we are going to move right on through and go on to 4G, FP240021.

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 Matt is back up for that one.

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 This is one that was emailed to us very early in the week.

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 We had a change on that, so Matt will walk us through that.

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 Here we go.

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 Yeah, so this is a final plot of lots 1 and 2, block A, force crossing, phase two addition.

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 Is approximately 20 acre track, generally located on the west side of North Mayhill

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 Road, approximately 1,000 feet north of North McKinney Street.

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 Is to create two lots, one of them is a multifamily development, which was approved, which has

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 an approved specific use permit that was approved by City Council on February 7th.

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 And then also part of this plot is dedicating part of a new Collector Street Hummingbird

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 Lane.

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 At the time the report came out on Friday, this plot was seeking an extension, but over

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 the weekend they were able to meet the last few criterias, clear the last few comments,

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 and so an updated plot was sent on Monday.

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 And so they now meet the criteria for approval and staff is recommending approval.

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 Excellent.

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 Thank you.

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 Questions for Matt?

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 Thank you very much.

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 Oh, Matt, you're up for the next one, 24HFP240023.

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 It's your show tonight.

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 Yes.

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 So this is a final plot of lot 1, block A, Riviera addition.

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 That's about a 15 acre track on the north side of Fishtrap Road.

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 On the east side of the town is to create a lot of record from a previously unplotted

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 tract, the property owner had been using a private water well for water services but

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 that water well has failed and so they have recently submitted for civil engineering plans

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 to access city water and as part of that they need to final plot and hence we are here.

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 At this time it does not meet the criteria for approval, however, staff has no objection

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 to the requested extension to July 24th and this would be their first extension.

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 Great.

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 Questions?

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 Thank you, Matt.

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 All right.

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 Appreciate it.

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 Next on our items for individual consideration is for IPD240005.

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 That's Mia's item.

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 This was our public hearing item from last meeting that we tabled till today.

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 Hello, Mia.

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 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner.

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 This item, like you said, is the PD overlay with a light industrial based zoning district

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 that was continued at the last meeting.

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 Just a reminder, it's located north of Black Road, it includes just under 53 acres and

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 the request is again for an overlay PD with a light industrial based zoning and some additional

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 conditions that would allow for some protections for the adjacent residential areas.

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 Some of the things that we added since that last meeting to the PD development regulations

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 are use restrictions, specifically those related to automobile services, travel plaza, hotel,

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 motel, parking lot as the principal use and then we've also added the building height

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 restriction of 55 feet.

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 One of the other things that was discussed during the public hearing was removing the

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 ability for an alternative ESA compliance review.

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 After discussing that with our technical staff who reviews ESA, they did acknowledge that

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 an alternative ESA could potentially lead to better drainage conditions for the residents

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 in that area so they wouldn't want to remove that flexibility at this stage.

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 We heard the residents and then the applicant has agreed to add these additional restrictions

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 to their regulations.

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 So we're back with that with the recommendation of approval and I will happily take any questions

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 or comments.

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 Thank you.

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 I know we had a lot of discussion about the wall the last time as well.

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 So I think in our red line, it had new verbiage in it.

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 Yeah, the consensus we realized was that where a wall could go for security purposes, the

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 residents would like to see that there but their main priority or their main focus was

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 the preservation of the existing tree canopy and so what we tried to add in these PD regulations

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 is that, like I said, in areas where it can go, it should go but we encourage the preservation

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 of the tree canopy within that 50 foot buffer and actually we've added the requirement to

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 require all healthy trees be preserved within that 50 foot buffer.

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 I know we went back and forth about the wall being required, not required and so now it

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 says if provided so giving the flexibility that if it's going to go in, it should have

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 these parameters.

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 Correct.

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 Well done.

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 Questions for Mia or anybody else?

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 Thank you very much.

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 That will take us to two public hearings for tonight.

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 First is 5AZ240008.

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 Erin is here for presentation of that item.

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 Hello.

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 Good evening, Chair, members of commission, Erin Stanley, Assistant Planner.

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 This is Z24-0008, Crowe Billingsley of Denton Rezoning.

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 So this is going to be a rezoning on approximately 7.8 acres, generally south of US 380 and west

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 of Mosh Branch Road, rezoning from rural residential to light industrial zoning district and the

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 property was annexed in 2010.

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 Currently it is undeveloped and surrounded primarily by other undeveloped property and

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 gas wells and staff is recommending approval tonight.

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 I'll have a more detailed presentation in the main session but I'll happily answer any

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 questions.

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 Thanks, Erin.

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 Any questions for Erin?

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 Second public hearing tonight is 5BDC240004.

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 Haley is here for a summary of that item.

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 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission.

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 Haley Zagorski, Assistant Planning Director.

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 If you'll recall in April we had a work session regarding razor ranch and kind of the history

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 that's led us to where we are today of needing to adopt appendix A into the DDC formally.

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 So that's what's before you this evening is that consolidation of those 20 plus razor

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 ranch ordinances that have been developed since approximately 2007.

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 This placeholder has been in the code since we adopted it in 2019.

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 It's just taken us some time to get to the point where we have all of those in a format

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 that we could bring before you all.

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 There is one change that I would consider substantive from what has been in the razor

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 ranch overlay for all this time and that is that they are asking for an additional 250

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 multifamily units to be allowed on the south campus.

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 If you recall in 2021 we had a similar request where they were getting close to the threshold

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 that had been set at seven, I believe it was 1,750 units and so we upped that at that time

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 to 2,000.

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 Now that they're nearing build out of the project they are needing a slight increase

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 in that and so we've baked in a little bit of flexibility there to give them the ability

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 to finish out those projects hopefully if you all in council are to approve of that

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 increase.

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 But staff is recommending approval of this and I'm happy to go over any additional details

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 that you may have questions on at this time.

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 Thanks Hayman.

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 Questions?

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 Concerns?

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 It's a big undertaking, I'm glad it's been done finally.

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 It's been quite the effort so we're glad to be here.

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 Thank you, appreciate it.

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 Now that Commissioner Perderone has joined us I'm going to go ahead and backtrack.

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 We're accusing Commissioner Cole of our items for individual consideration B through F and

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 I'm going to go ahead and invite Julie up for 4B FP 240022.

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 Hi Julie.

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 Hello.

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 Good evening, Julie Wyatt.

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 Ah here we are, sorry about that.

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 All right.

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 This is a final plat for unit 40 of Robeson Ranch, it's a single family residential development.

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 It's consistent with the plan development that was detailed planned out in 2011.

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 They do have to work through their civil plan still and some items that they needed to correct

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 on the final plat.

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 So staff is recommending denial, however we have no objection to the extension to July

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 24th and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

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 Thanks Julie.

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 Commissioner O'Rourke.

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 How many extensions have they had at this point?

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 Sorry I apologize, this would be the first extension, yes sir.

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 Great.

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 Thanks Julie.

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 Thank you.

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 Okay and the next items which are 4C through F, Erin is going to present those.

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 We got a few emails on those during the week, just want to make sure everybody understands

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 the changes from the original backup.

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 Yeah that's the first one.

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 Okay.

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 Erin Stanley, assistant planner, I'm presenting these for, no not that one, for Cameron Robertson

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 on that.

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 So this is Hunter Ranch Phase 1A.

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 This is a final plat request and we are recommending approval.

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 In your backup we originally did say that this was going to be an extension request.

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 They've since satisfied all the outstanding comments in their CEP so they can move forward

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 with approval for the final plat.

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 There also was a change since it got sent out with the name.

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 So they have sold off not instead of Hunter Ranch Land LLC, it is now Landmark Phase 1

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 LLC and all the plots have been updated to reflect that.

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 And they also changed a couple notes.

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 So the notes previously on the plat there was one that total summarized the HOA's responsibility

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 to maintain open space as well as the drainage areas and we separated those out into two

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 comments now or to two notes and so that is reflected on all of these plots as well.

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 So this is the first plat and I can move on to the second if there's any questions.

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 Okay, please do.

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 So this one, all the same comments apply to this.

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 This would just be Phase 1B of the Hunter Ranch development and we are also recommending

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 approval.

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 I'm sorry, okay, and then this is Phase 1C also recommending approval.

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 And Phase 1D also recommending approval.

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 Okay, thank you very much.

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 Appreciate that.

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 Thank you.

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 Going through that.

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 I think, yep, that takes us through our agenda.

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 We will get Commissioner Cole back in here and we've got two work session reports.

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 Our first one is 3APZ24130.

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 I'm not exactly sure who's presenting that, Mia?

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 Okay.

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 Mia and Julie.

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 Very good.

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 Set up team here.

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 Okay, good evening, Chair, members of the commission, again, Mia Hines, Senior Planner

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 here to talk action items for the Southeast Denton Area Plan.

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 So just to remind you guys, the area that we're talking about, well, first I want to

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 say that we've done a lot of work on this project.

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 It's been a long time coming to get to this point and we're very excited about where we

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 are and how we can move forward.

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 We hope to get you all this backup information a week in advance, but we wanted to take the

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 time to discuss the action items with our steering committee meeting, our team.

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 We did have like a three and a half hour long conversation with them over all of the action

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 items.

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 We got their feedback and their input and we'll talk through some of that when we go

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 through those items.

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 And then within this presentation, we're going to hit some highlights for you guys and get

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 your feedback on those items.

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 But of course, any detailed or any additional comments and feedback you got, we will gladly

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 take that.

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 So again, just reminding you guys where we're talking about, this is the Southeast Denton

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 Area, generally includes 600 acres bounded by McKinney Street to the north, Bell Avenue

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 and Dallas Drive to the west.

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 That's Teasley Lane and Shady Oaks to the south and Woodrow Lane to the east.

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 And this area does include a little bit of a transition on the north side of McKinney,

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 on the east side of Woodrow and then the south side of Shady Oaks and Teasley as well, where

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 we consider the land uses in this area as they might potentially impact the core southeastern

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 residential neighborhoods and areas.

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 So we've done a lot of, like I said, public engagement throughout this process.

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 And what we've learned from the community, or I'm sorry, through those public engagement

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 avenues that we've taken up our listening sessions, where we've gone out to the community,

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 we've held meetings where they were to come in to speak with us, to go through, be very

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 candid, have open, honest conversations about what they dislike and dislike about their

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 area, what they would like to see for their areas, where the city has fallen short in

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 some instances, a very open and honest conversation that we had with them during the listening

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 sessions.

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 And then we realized that we wanted to make sure that we were touching a different crowd,

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 the crowd that generally does not show up at our events.

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 And so we did pop-up events at local functions that were going on within the area as well

00:18:10.040 --> 00:18:13.880
 as local restaurants and things like that, trying to meet people where they were.

00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.520
 At those pop-up, I'm sorry, those were the intercept surveys.

00:18:16.520 --> 00:18:20.440
 And then we did pop-up events at like Juneteenth and events and festivals and stuff like that

00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.200
 where we ran those intercept surveys.

00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.800
 We've done some online surveys via Discuss Denton.

00:18:25.800 --> 00:18:30.440
 We've done some visioning workshop, again, inviting people to come in and have some conversations

00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:32.240
 about their vision for the area.

00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.920
 We've also done some visual preference surveys where we ask the people specifically what would

00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:41.240
 you like to see as far as the development, what do you think that the architectural style

00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.160
 of the area is, what would you like to see as far as commercial goes and things like

00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.160
 that.

00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:52.040
 And the key things that we learned from these events were that the area would like to see

00:18:52.040 --> 00:18:55.400
 improved communication between the city and the neighborhood.

00:18:55.400 --> 00:19:01.400
 They want to see a standard for housing, ensuring the long-term affordability, limiting displacement.

00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:05.620
 They want to see the community assets maintained and cherished.

00:19:05.620 --> 00:19:10.320
 They want to see improved infrastructure, preserve Denton's history and remember the

00:19:10.320 --> 00:19:13.920
 lessons of Quaker Town so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:22.280
 And then also in the pattern of perceived neglect and begin to heal that area as a result

00:19:22.280 --> 00:19:26.920
 or following the historic trauma that they've received.

00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:33.600
 And so we built on those key points, we built some desired outcomes, what we surmise.

00:19:33.600 --> 00:19:39.000
 That includes a fair share of political and economic and social investment, the celebration

00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:45.440
 of the black cultural roots within this area, wanting to obtain a variety of housing types

00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:50.920
 and pricing options for the area to diversify the housing options for this area, creating

00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.760
 a safe and accessible connected network.

00:19:53.760 --> 00:19:59.660
 And then also improvements to public amenities, their parks, Carl Young, Fred Moore are very

00:19:59.660 --> 00:20:05.260
 cherished assets within their areas and they would like to see some improvements to those.

00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:12.560
 With that we pulled in some visions and goals, building trust, honoring the culture and heritage,

00:20:12.560 --> 00:20:17.760
 investing in economic prosperity, strengthening those neighborhoods and housing affordability,

00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:21.720
 elevating the quality of public infrastructure and then also creating again a safe and connected

00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.240
 multimodal travel system.

00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.340
 With that we came up with our recommended or from that we came up with our recommended

00:20:27.340 --> 00:20:33.640
 strategies which we have brought to this body to talk through some of those.

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 And those have been also reviewed and validated by our steering committee and city council

00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:40.600
 as well.

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 So after taking on the existing conditions, giving us the desired outcomes, community

00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:50.920
 vision and goals, taking the recommended strategies, now we are at those proposed implementation

00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:54.920
 and action steps and now we are trying to get your feedback on the things that we are

00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:59.160
 hoping to implement, staff is hoping to do, where we're hoping to partner with other

00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.600
 organizations and actually make these things happen, make these things that the community

00:21:03.600 --> 00:21:05.320
 wants come true.

00:21:05.320 --> 00:21:12.400
 So with that I will just briefly go over the basically table of continent for our action

00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.480
 matrix that we have.

00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:19.960
 This table over here identifies city of Denton partners to your left there, identifies city

00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.200
 of Denton partners and agencies.

00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.320
 Keep in mind those acronyms because you'll see those throughout the matrix.

00:21:26.320 --> 00:21:30.240
 As far as time frame goes we've broken each action step into short term, mid term, long

00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.720
 term time frames where short term is hoping to have done in one to two years, mid term

00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:40.060
 is hoping to have done in three to five and then long term is six to ten.

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 And then also we've categorized the types of actions that we're going to discuss and

00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.080
 go through also.

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 And with that I will hand it over to Julie to get us going.

00:21:55.040 --> 00:22:00.640
 >> All right, so there's 53 action steps, so we won't go over every single one line-by-line.

00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.400
 We did do that with our steering committee last week, it took a lot of time but it was

00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:09.320
 a really important conversation that we had with the group to get their feedback, to validate

00:22:09.320 --> 00:22:14.280
 the findings and to make sure that we, that this plan is reflective of the community's

00:22:14.280 --> 00:22:15.280
 desires.

00:22:15.280 --> 00:22:21.760
 >> I also wanted to note that we did bring these actions to the community also at the

00:22:21.760 --> 00:22:25.840
 Juneteenth Festival last weekend, so we've gotten community feedback as well as steering

00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:27.640
 committee feedback on these action items.

00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.480
 >> Yes, thank you Mia, that was an important point because we really, we wanted to make

00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:35.240
 sure that we got this information to the community as well.

00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:42.520
 So I wanted to just set the table a little bit, these action steps are intended for us

00:22:42.520 --> 00:22:47.560
 to achieve those strategies and ultimately the goal and vision of Southeast Denton.

00:22:47.560 --> 00:22:52.380
 So these are going to be really those work-a-day tasks that staff is going to be doing, taking

00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:56.200
 the lead on, but also partnering with those other agencies.

00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:02.520
 So they really are intended to reflect back to those strategies.

00:23:02.520 --> 00:23:08.080
 So we're going to talk about just a few of them that are probably most significant, particularly

00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:10.560
 to the Planning and Zoning Commission.

00:23:10.560 --> 00:23:14.720
 And how we're going to do it is talk about the goals, so the first ones we're going to

00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.900
 talk about are related to goal two, which is honor the culture and heritage of Southeast

00:23:18.900 --> 00:23:20.920
 Denton.

00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:26.240
 To set the table a little bit for you, we heard from the community about the importance

00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:28.440
 of the culture of Southeast Denton.

00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:34.600
 This has been a prominent home to Denton's black American residents for decades, and

00:23:34.600 --> 00:23:40.880
 the churches and homes and businesses and streets and all of that created this fabric

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:46.640
 of a community that is so important to the residents, however, the demographics have

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:51.360
 changed recently, and that it is now a more diverse population.

00:23:51.360 --> 00:23:57.760
 So we've got roughly a third and a third of a third, not exactly, but that it would

00:23:57.760 --> 00:24:02.260
 of black, Hispanic, and then white.

00:24:02.260 --> 00:24:06.500
 So those demographics are changing, but we want to make sure that we keep in mind the

00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:12.480
 history of Southeast Denton, and that all future residents understand the importance

00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:14.260
 of Southeast Denton.

00:24:14.260 --> 00:24:18.440
 And so with that, we have this first summary of action steps, I'm not going to read all

00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:24.240
 of them to you, but I just want to talk about a summary, to honor that heritage and culture.

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:30.440
 And first is to survey it, so to look at the historic resources, those architectural resources,

00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.520
 maybe notable cultural areas, to educate the residents and property owners of the value

00:24:36.520 --> 00:24:43.720
 of preservation, to let them know what preservation means, what it could mean in terms of potentially

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.560
 grant funding or impacts to the community.

00:24:47.560 --> 00:24:53.520
 We want to coordinate with property owners to designate individual structures and districts.

00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:57.200
 This was an important one to Mitchell, to create a cultural district, to acknowledge

00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.640
 Southeast Denton places and families who created it.

00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.880
 And you could do that in a variety of ways.

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.480
 And what we want to make sure in these action steps is not to tie it down necessarily to

00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:13.340
 a specific thing, but to keep it a little bit broad so that we can make changes.

00:25:13.340 --> 00:25:20.160
 So thinking of things like murals or the sign toppers are a great way to honor the culture.

00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:25.020
 You could have festivals, you could have wayfinding signs, all of those things could honor that

00:25:25.020 --> 00:25:31.780
 culture of Southeast Denton, both physical items, but also maybe things like tours.

00:25:31.780 --> 00:25:35.640
 And use these districts to honor those past residents and cultures who call Southeast

00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.680
 Denton home.

00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:42.360
 So it would not only be that historic black culture, but also adding in those new cultures,

00:25:42.360 --> 00:25:43.360
 the Hispanic culture.

00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:46.680
 And that was something that the steering committee brought up, that we want to make sure that

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:50.200
 we honor all the cultures that call Southeast Denton home.

00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:55.720
 These are short-term and mid-term tasks, so that one to two or three to five years, they're

00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.280
 going to require coordination with external partners.

00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:02.440
 You know, in thinking about funding, maybe grants would be a good source of funding for

00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:03.440
 this.

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:09.680
 And then also, as with anything, public outreach, communication is going to be needed.

00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.080
 This is how the matrix looks.

00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:17.000
 So unless you want to talk through these, we could go on to the next group of items

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:22.760
 or I could be happy to answer any questions related to goal two, the history and culture.

00:26:22.760 --> 00:26:23.760
 Questions?

00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:24.760
 No?

00:26:24.760 --> 00:26:25.760
 Yep.

00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:26.760
 Keep going.

00:26:26.760 --> 00:26:27.760
 All right.

00:26:27.760 --> 00:26:28.760
 All right.

00:26:28.760 --> 00:26:33.920
 The next goal I want to talk about and the action items that relate to it are goal four,

00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.480
 strengthen neighborhoods.

00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:42.960
 So at our visioning workshop last August, we talked to the community about areas that

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:49.600
 they want to see that they would be open to change and areas that they would like to preserve.

00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:52.720
 And this is the map that resulted from that conversation.

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:59.480
 So the area in orange are areas that we really want to maintain, and that is those residential

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:00.480
 neighborhoods.

00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.200
 Those are really important to the community.

00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.080
 The areas that are in blue are the ones that the community's open to some change in that

00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:07.440
 area.

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:12.280
 And so with that, we also did a visual preference survey.

00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:18.960
 So we went back to the community and said, okay, in those areas of change or in the community,

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.360
 what kind of housing types of commercial development would you like to see?

00:27:23.360 --> 00:27:30.360
 The community was open to that middle housing, so things like duplexes or maybe some fourplexes

00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:35.240
 or triplexes, but they really also wanted to maintain those single family homes, especially

00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.760
 in the core neighborhoods.

00:27:37.760 --> 00:27:42.800
 They weren't really open to multifamily development, especially within the core, but they understand

00:27:42.800 --> 00:27:47.440
 in those areas in blue that a lot of that zoning has been in place for a long time,

00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.960
 and those are the areas that they would be open to more of that multifamily development.

00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.920
 We've also heard from the community that they do want that commercial, particularly we hear

00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.920
 like a grocery store or a pharmacy someplace to shop.

00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:04.440
 We asked them what kind of commercial spaces that they would like to see.

00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:11.400
 They liked that sort of maybe small grocery or pharmacy, but they also liked maybe converting

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:16.680
 some houses in some specific areas to allow for commercial development in those houses,

00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:21.680
 something that could be nested inside the neighborhood and would be compatible with the surrounding

00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.000
 development.

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:28.760
 So based upon the areas of change of stability and this, we are proposing some modifications

00:28:28.760 --> 00:28:30.800
 to the land use.

00:28:30.800 --> 00:28:37.200
 So this map here on the left, that is our current land use map and in the comprehensive

00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.720
 plan that was adopted in 2022.

00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.280
 The areas I want to call your attention to are the ones outlined in blue.

00:28:44.280 --> 00:28:53.240
 Those under the current future land use, these right here are that downtown future land use.

00:28:53.240 --> 00:29:00.400
 This relates to the county facilities, and then this has low residential.

00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:07.160
 We are proposing to make some modifications to that to shift some of that downtown area

00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.080
 to more neighborhood serving.

00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:14.680
 So take it out of that downtown future land use, shift it down to that neighborhood serving

00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:20.680
 so that any future development, any development area would be compatible with those adjacent

00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.520
 neighborhoods, provide that transition.

00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:28.560
 We're also proposing to create kind of a new symbology here for our future land use, that

00:29:28.560 --> 00:29:32.080
 is the county property and it's developed as such.

00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:37.440
 But we wanted to imagine what would happen in that corner if and when the county did

00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:39.880
 decide to move their facilities.

00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:46.480
 So we created this symbology to mix community mixed use with that public facilities so that

00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:50.680
 we can imagine what types of uses we would want to see on that corner if and when that

00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.080
 time to redevelop ever came.

00:29:53.080 --> 00:29:58.840
 And then finally, this corner here at Morse and Woodrow, it's kind of a good corner, we've

00:29:58.840 --> 00:30:03.900
 got an arterial there on Woodrow and then at some point in the future it will be signalized.

00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:07.640
 So we think that might be a good opportunity for some neighborhoods serving commercial

00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:08.640
 development.

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:13.200
 I would also point out that we talked about last week with the steering committee, the

00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:23.940
 Denton 2040 comprehensive plan did classify the area kind of south of or off of Shady

00:30:23.940 --> 00:30:27.080
 Oaks, kind of south of Duncan as community mixed use.

00:30:27.080 --> 00:30:28.800
 This plan kind of reaffirmed that.

00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:31.120
 Once again, that was in that area of change.

00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:37.320
 It is currently developed with some industrial uses or heavy commercial uses.

00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:43.560
 And we foresee that if and when it redevelops to be more consistent with something you would

00:30:43.560 --> 00:30:48.360
 see adjacent to a neighborhood commercial type uses.

00:30:48.360 --> 00:30:52.480
 In addition to the future land use, we're also proposing overlay districts.

00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.960
 So there are four proposed overlay districts.

00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.200
 Residential overlay, that's that area in yellow.

00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.180
 Just wanting to make sure that we protect that residential, particularly in terms of

00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.460
 scale and architectural theming.

00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:12.840
 Also height overlay, that's kind of consistent with that area that we sort of took down from

00:31:12.840 --> 00:31:17.920
 downtown to provide that transition to those residential areas.

00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.840
 We understand that that likely will develop with commercial uses or some more intense

00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:22.840
 uses.

00:31:22.840 --> 00:31:26.000
 We want to make sure the scale is appropriate next to residential.

00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.680
 The one that we talked about a lot last week with our steering committee is live work.

00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:35.520
 I think Tina reminded us today, we talked for about 30 minutes on this overlay.

00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:36.840
 So there's a lot of discussion.

00:31:36.840 --> 00:31:44.120
 So Prairie Street is actually historically a main street for Southeast Denton.

00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:45.640
 It was a commercial corridor.

00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:51.440
 It had retail, movie theater, barbershops, restaurants.

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.280
 And that's something we've talked a lot about in our steering committee.

00:31:55.280 --> 00:32:01.960
 Now that street has changed since that historic main street, but there's been some interest

00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:08.080
 to kind of bring that back a little bit, but keeping in mind that there is adjacent residential

00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:09.320
 next to it.

00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:15.720
 And so that's where we struck upon this live work overlay to create space for that small

00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:22.240
 scale retail or maybe office uses or something like a hair salon or barbershop, coffee shop.

00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.120
 But make sure it's combined with residential.

00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:29.840
 And that allows us to kind of blend the best of both worlds and to make sure that anything

00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:32.880
 that develops is compatible.

00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.160
 Now one thing we did talk about with the steering committee is, well, what's the next step or

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.600
 where does it go or how intense does it get?

00:32:40.600 --> 00:32:43.600
 This is an area that we're really going to need to monitor.

00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:48.880
 We want to make sure that we keep in mind the residential, make sure that it blends

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:54.680
 nicely and that their impacts to those residential areas are minimized, but continue to keep

00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.720
 monitoring it to see how it's working and see if any tweaks need to be made.

00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:03.280
 So it will be an ongoing iterative process.

00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:07.160
 And then finally, a commercial overlay, and that's that area in red.

00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.800
 Of course, I did talk about that we anticipate that we'd like for that area off of Shady

00:33:12.800 --> 00:33:17.560
 Oaks to redevelop out of those industrial uses to something that's more compatible with

00:33:17.560 --> 00:33:18.760
 the residential.

00:33:18.760 --> 00:33:27.800
 But we also want to make sure that any commercial uses still also don't create negative impacts

00:33:27.800 --> 00:33:28.800
 for the residential.

00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:37.480
 So we're proposing to add a commercial overlay to ensure that it is consistent with what

00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.740
 the community's vision is.

00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:42.640
 These are some short-term but also long-term tasks.

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.600
 There's quite a bit of zoning involved in this, and we want to make sure that it's done

00:33:45.600 --> 00:33:52.080
 correctly and that we keep the property owners and the community involved in this process.

00:33:52.080 --> 00:34:01.120
 So public outreach and communication are going to be absolutely key in these action items.

00:34:01.120 --> 00:34:03.960
 So here's what they look like in your matrix.

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.820
 Did y'all have any questions on any of those slides?

00:34:07.820 --> 00:34:08.820
 Questions about?

00:34:08.820 --> 00:34:09.820
 Commissioner Perot.

00:34:09.820 --> 00:34:11.400
 Thank you, Chair.

00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:20.560
 Great work, but I want to understand a little bit better what the vision is for achieving

00:34:20.560 --> 00:34:27.000
 some of those diversity of housing options that we talked to and the goals.

00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.160
 As I'm looking at this, and don't let me put words in your mouth, it looks like there

00:34:31.160 --> 00:34:35.720
 are specific things the neighborhood has said, "We don't want to lose X, Y, and Z."

00:34:35.720 --> 00:34:42.900
 And so the direction is, let's put some controls in it for that and then come in either simultaneous

00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:49.400
 or after the fact to allow some of that more housing diversity within that area, but not

00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.280
 sacrificing those things the community expressed.

00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.280
 Is that...

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:59.240
 That really is, and if I heard something different, let me know, but really that is the intent.

00:34:59.240 --> 00:35:04.720
 So the residential overlay would potentially see where we can do to encourage infill in

00:35:04.720 --> 00:35:12.400
 those lots that probably could allow for another home on them, but make sure that anything

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:17.160
 is developed is consistent with the scale and the architecture.

00:35:17.160 --> 00:35:20.880
 I mean, Southeast Denton has this...

00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:25.800
 The way it developed was over different time periods, so you've got some craftsman areas

00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:32.020
 and you have some ranch-style home areas, and we want to make sure that any development

00:35:32.020 --> 00:35:37.240
 within those streets and those neighborhoods fit and that they work, and that's where it's

00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:41.720
 gonna come in in coming in with those residential overlays to make sure we get it right.

00:35:41.720 --> 00:35:42.820
 Okay, thank you.

00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:48.520
 And just a comment, I think it wasn't apparent to me when reading through the backup material,

00:35:48.520 --> 00:35:57.720
 but seeing you explain sort of how the desire for perhaps some small commercial uses in

00:35:57.720 --> 00:36:06.300
 certain places and that sort of thing in existing buildings, I wonder if the tool of using what

00:36:06.300 --> 00:36:12.680
 I've seen called accessory commercial units ever came up where someone would build a different

00:36:12.680 --> 00:36:18.320
 structure in front of a house that maybe had a very large setback to be able to hold that

00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.200
 use up front, but then still have residential in the back.

00:36:22.200 --> 00:36:23.720
 Was that discussed or...?

00:36:23.720 --> 00:36:29.060
 We didn't talk about that specific, but like I said, and Tina may want to jump in here,

00:36:29.060 --> 00:36:35.940
 these are written to be somewhat broad so that there can be reevaluation and to make

00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:42.400
 sure that we get it right once we get to that, pass the policy and into the regulatory document,

00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.600
 so I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

00:36:44.600 --> 00:36:46.800
 Yeah, I would agree.

00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:52.400
 The action items provide the idea of these are the steps that we need to take, but how

00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:59.240
 the sausage is made on those action items is not fleshed out in the document at this

00:36:59.240 --> 00:37:05.320
 time because that's not what the purpose of the document is at this point in our efforts,

00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:11.280
 but to that point, and Julie's point about the flexibility, depending upon the time period

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.360
 in which we are implementing something that we have to take into consideration, what are

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.280
 the facts on the ground at that time, right?

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:25.280
 So it could be that next year we're working on establishing a conservation district or

00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:31.160
 looking to allow for the live work units to come into play, but to your point, there's

00:37:31.160 --> 00:37:35.840
 additional ways to achieve kind of a live work concept, so maybe the two uses don't

00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.680
 necessarily have to be integrated in the same structure, but somebody can build that accessory

00:37:39.680 --> 00:37:44.240
 commercial structure on the front and still achieve the same objective.

00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:46.160
 So does that help address your question?

00:37:46.160 --> 00:37:49.160
 Absolutely, thank you.

00:37:49.160 --> 00:37:50.160
 Okay.

00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:51.160
 Anybody else at this moment?

00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:52.160
 Okay.

00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:53.160
 All right.

00:37:53.160 --> 00:37:54.160
 We'll keep going.

00:37:54.160 --> 00:37:55.160
 All right.

00:37:55.160 --> 00:37:59.520
 And then finally, I want to talk about Goal 6, and that is create a safe and connected

00:37:59.520 --> 00:38:03.080
 multimodal travel system.

00:38:03.080 --> 00:38:07.120
 So on your screen is the current mobility plan.

00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:13.360
 You could see there's a variety of arterials and collectors that impact Southeast Denton.

00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.880
 We've also got some pictures on the existing streets.

00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.280
 The city has done some improvements to the streets within Southeast Denton in terms of

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:29.560
 that kind of between the curbs, but we've used this plan and this opportunity to reimagine

00:38:29.560 --> 00:38:35.340
 some of these areas to see where we want to go next.

00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.240
 We also looked at the roadway conditions.

00:38:37.240 --> 00:38:40.040
 We looked at where those sidewalks were, where they weren't.

00:38:40.040 --> 00:38:45.800
 We also pulled that traffic crash injury map from the mobility plan.

00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:50.920
 As you could see, the majority of crashes with injuries are along the perimeter on those

00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.640
 arterials, but there are some areas within Southeast Denton, particularly along this

00:38:54.640 --> 00:39:01.640
 lakey spine, which do have some concerns about safety.

00:39:01.640 --> 00:39:06.280
 This was backed up by the discussion that we had with the community at the visioning

00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:11.960
 workshop and that there were concerns about safety, particularly at those intersections.

00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:19.680
 So we have some recommendations and some action steps associated with that.

00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:24.560
 They include creating multimodal streets, and that is consistent with the mobility plan,

00:39:24.560 --> 00:39:29.520
 with kind of the direction that we have within the city.

00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:34.200
 And we want to make those intersections safer for all users.

00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:37.720
 And we should have said at the outset, before we went to Juneteenth and before we went to

00:39:37.720 --> 00:39:44.560
 the steering committee, the project team talked to internal staff to make sure that anything

00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:48.960
 we proposed as an action step, we could actually achieve.

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:54.080
 And so we actually talked, we sat down with our transportation folks to talk through this,

00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:59.480
 talk through some of those things that we would like to do as far as to make these intersections

00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:03.160
 safer and to make sure we were on the right track.

00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:05.160
 So we have talked with them.

00:40:05.160 --> 00:40:13.320
 One of the ideas is to create a colorful crosswalks, particularly along those more dangerous intersections

00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:22.020
 to alert drivers that pedestrians are there and to make it more visible.

00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:25.800
 We're also proposing to imagine additional connectivity.

00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:27.840
 So you could see the dash lines here.

00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:33.800
 Once again, we're kind of thinking through if the county ever were to leave that area,

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:35.560
 what would the connections be?

00:40:35.560 --> 00:40:43.660
 So that would be a really great opportunity to add some east-west connections in the future.

00:40:43.660 --> 00:40:48.900
 We also added, before I go to this, just want to, a little bit, the streets that we were

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:56.420
 looking primarily at the multimodal are these in blue here.

00:40:56.420 --> 00:41:05.460
 So it's really looking at particularly Prairie, Lakey, Morse, Robertson, those streets.

00:41:05.460 --> 00:41:12.320
 Also the orange circles, those are those intersections that we would like to see some additional

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.720
 treatment to make sure that they are safer.

00:41:15.720 --> 00:41:22.320
 And then finally, these orange circles here along Bell Avenue, those are intended to create,

00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:31.000
 to work on that, that strengthened of the connectivity between southeast end and downtown.

00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.940
 So with that, now we'll talk about the street sections.

00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:39.880
 So we also had as part of the plan, the project team create some conceptual street sections,

00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.720
 thinking in terms of that multimodal.

00:41:41.720 --> 00:41:49.800
 So we're going to want to get car travel lanes, obviously, but also bicycle, pedestrian, street

00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:56.520
 trees, and then in some areas we need on-street parking because this is an area where people

00:41:56.520 --> 00:42:01.520
 live and they have these travel patterns, so we want to make sure that we are consistent

00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:08.000
 with the travel patterns and what the community currently has and what they need.

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:15.440
 We also looked at these and how can we work within our existing right-of-way when possible.

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.920
 Because parts of town that are already developed are always challenging, they're good challenges,

00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.040
 right, to try to figure out what we can fit within that right-of-way, but once again,

00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:29.320
 we want to make sure we minimize disruption for residents.

00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.800
 The steering committee emphasized the need for shade.

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:38.420
 And then one idea or action step is tactical urbanism.

00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:43.640
 That's a great way to try out ideas that are low cost, that are reversible, so that if

00:42:43.640 --> 00:42:49.560
 we do add some sort of intervention, say on Moore Street, to figure out how to slow the

00:42:49.560 --> 00:42:55.760
 traffic on Moore Street, if one solution doesn't work, then we can try another solution.

00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.720
 But it allows us to test before we spend a lot of dollars on that.

00:43:01.720 --> 00:43:05.680
 So that will be, I think, a good opportunity for us.

00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:07.680
 These are mid and short-term tasks.

00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:09.160
 We want to get moving on these.

00:43:09.160 --> 00:43:13.100
 They're going to require coordination with a lot of city departments.

00:43:13.100 --> 00:43:19.040
 Urban funding will be needed, bond funds, maybe TIF funds, and then once again, public

00:43:19.040 --> 00:43:23.420
 outreach and communication to make sure that we are coordinating particularly with the

00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:29.320
 people most affected by any changes to these streets.

00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:30.320
 Any questions on that?

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:31.320
 All right.

00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.280
 And now I'm going to bring me up.

00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:43.440
 If there are no other questions about the plan, we want to talk about next steps, what

00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:44.440
 we have coming up.

00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:49.760
 There is a special call, planning and zoning meeting, on July 17th to talk about the final

00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:55.360
 draft of the plan, and then the following week, we will be bringing it to City Council

00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.200
 for final adoption, and that is July 23rd.

00:43:59.200 --> 00:44:04.340
 As far as implementation, we want to get started as soon as possible, right of way.

00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:10.680
 So we would be looking to start those short-term tasks following adoption.

00:44:10.680 --> 00:44:12.160
 We will continue public outreach.

00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:17.880
 We want to stay involved, and the joke is that the SetApp area knows our faces and they

00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.720
 know our names now, so we can't go away, and they can't get away from us.

00:44:22.720 --> 00:44:26.600
 So we want to stay involved and make sure that throughout implementation, and just in

00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:30.400
 the regular development review projects that we have that are around the area that we're

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.320
 communicating with them, any capital improvement projects that we have going on, making sure

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:39.640
 that we're communicating the timeline and being involved in that.

00:44:39.640 --> 00:44:46.680
 And then, I believe that's it, unless we have any other items to discuss.

00:44:46.680 --> 00:44:47.680
 Yep.

00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:48.680
 Commissioner Perot.

00:44:48.680 --> 00:44:49.680
 Thank you, Chair.

00:44:49.680 --> 00:44:50.680
 Amazing job.

00:44:50.680 --> 00:44:54.000
 Have we applied to APA Texas yet for the award?

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.000
 I'm serious.

00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.080
 No, I'm just -- Not done yet.

00:44:58.080 --> 00:44:59.080
 Not done yet.

00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:00.080
 We'll get there.

00:45:00.080 --> 00:45:01.080
 That's a good point.

00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:07.980
 It would be amazing to see, and it might be a first, it might not, I don't know, to see

00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:14.840
 this plan with the community members from the steering committee go to receive an award.

00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.400
 So just an idea.

00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.440
 Commissioner Perot.

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.360
 We can apply for national.

00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:25.360
 I second.

00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.720
 I think that's been a really impressive project and outcomes.

00:45:28.720 --> 00:45:30.480
 I do have one question.

00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.720
 Looking at the graphics that you provided regarding, like, just improving the safety

00:45:34.720 --> 00:45:40.800
 at intersections, was there a type of study that was done that reflects the train?

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.440
 So, for example, when the train is stopped in McKinney, a lot of traffic is diverted

00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.200
 through southeast Denton because, in particular, the intersection that's Robertson and Bell

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:52.360
 is the only outfeeder to get back into Bell.

00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:59.300
 So, going through southeast Denton from McKinney, the traffic goes through the neighborhood,

00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:02.080
 and it's already a little complex to navigate.

00:46:02.080 --> 00:46:06.080
 And so one of the things I would also ask for you to consider is when that happens -- and

00:46:06.080 --> 00:46:11.780
 it will happen because it's happened every year -- if maybe there could be special consideration

00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:16.600
 that's taken for the pathways that our residents may take through southeast Denton to try to

00:46:16.600 --> 00:46:22.560
 get from McKinney around to cross over to Bell, if that makes any sense?

00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:23.560
 Yeah.

00:46:23.560 --> 00:46:24.560
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:31.440
 And I think our priority or our goal of -- that feeds into our goal of creating those connections

00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.360
 or improving those connections between southeast Denton and downtown, but also southeast Denton

00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.880
 and the north side of McKinney and things like that.

00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:41.880
 Commissioner Billy Rayl.

00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:47.360
 Yeah, I guess third on, this is fantastic, you know, very much appreciate all the work

00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.320
 y'all have put into this, and it's a long time coming.

00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.640
 You know, I know we've been talking about, you know, southeast Denton Small Area Plan

00:46:53.640 --> 00:46:59.840
 for many years now, so thanks for putting this together and bringing it to fruition.

00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:06.440
 Just going back to the overlays, if we could -- I'm sorry, I meant to ask this earlier.

00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:11.080
 For the live/work overlay, what is that zoned as currently?

00:47:11.080 --> 00:47:18.960
 Is it community mixed use or -- Do we have a current zoning map up here?

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.440
 I anticipated such a question.

00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:30.440
 We have a zoning map, but I will also say that -- and I did not point it out, but there

00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:41.360
 is -- we are proposing, I don't know if you saw the orange, to moderate density residential

00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:42.840
 in this location here, too.

00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.800
 So right now, that's neighborhood mixed use.

00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:55.400
 We've got R7 along Prairie, and then we have R4, and then R4 along with some small neighborhood

00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:56.400
 mixed use here.

00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:57.400
 Got it.

00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.520
 Mixed use neighborhood, sorry, neighborhood mixed use.

00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:03.600
 For any commercial in the scope that y'all were discussing, that would require an SEP

00:48:03.600 --> 00:48:05.480
 in the R7, correct?

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:06.480
 Or rezoning?

00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:12.880
 Yeah, it would require -- and once again, these are sort of broad policy decisions.

00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.160
 We're going to have to look at that zoning and then what those overlays are going to

00:48:17.160 --> 00:48:18.160
 look like.

00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:21.160
 And we're going to want to do that in concert with the community.

00:48:21.160 --> 00:48:25.000
 And then also, of course, talk to the planning and zoning and the decision makers to make

00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.960
 sure that it addresses those needs.

00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:28.960
 Awesome.

00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:29.960
 Thank you, Beth.

00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:30.960
 Thank you.

00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:31.960
 Commissioner Cole.

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:32.960
 Thank you, Chair.

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:33.960
 Awesome job.

00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:34.960
 Thank you.

00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:35.960
 You guys have done amazing.

00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:40.640
 You've done a great job building trust in the community, and we sure do appreciate it.

00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:43.640
 And it's incredible.

00:48:43.640 --> 00:48:47.440
 Anybody else?

00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.680
 And I will echo all of that, my colleagues here.

00:48:50.680 --> 00:48:54.080
 Yeah, from how we got started with this to wondering if we were going to be able to get

00:48:54.080 --> 00:49:00.600
 a steering committee and get that involvement, I mean, yeah, the outreach has been just really

00:49:00.600 --> 00:49:01.600
 tremendous.

00:49:01.600 --> 00:49:03.520
 And clearly, it's here before us.

00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:04.520
 So that's exciting.

00:49:04.520 --> 00:49:08.440
 See you on July 17th for a more in-depth discussion and some action.

00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:09.440
 Awesome.

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:10.440
 Thank you.

00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:11.440
 Thank you.

00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:19.400
 Okay, we've got a final work session report, which is 3B-PZ2409-0.

00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.680
 Receive a report, hold a discussion regarding amending the Denton Development Code related

00:49:22.680 --> 00:49:28.240
 to establishing agenda item consideration process within the Planning and Zoning Operational

00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:29.240
 Procedures.

00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:30.240
 Hello.

00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:31.240
 Good evening, Chair and Commissioners.

00:49:31.240 --> 00:49:36.240
 Keisha Seriano, Assistant Planning Director.

00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:39.600
 Come on.

00:49:39.600 --> 00:49:46.920
 Okay, so we first discussed this item at the June 12th meeting.

00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.000
 We heard your comments, and we went back to the office and made some changes, so presented

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:58.440
 to you tonight to gather more comments and feedback before we bring it back later for

00:49:58.440 --> 00:49:59.440
 public hearing.

00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:05.280
 But just a reminder, this is an item that is dash initiated based on process that happened

00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:14.440
 last August and just confirmed that we needed to create a planning and zoning reconsideration

00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.280
 for you all in our current code.

00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:25.160
 Currently you do follow City Council's process if it's an item that is not currently already

00:50:25.160 --> 00:50:29.880
 advertised for City Council, you go through the process that they do and you can bring

00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.800
 it back as an item consideration to follow, meaning that's those same notes that you need

00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.200
 to make to our director.

00:50:36.200 --> 00:50:40.800
 But if it is an item that's already been advertised, currently you have to go to City Council and

00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.400
 make their request for the item to be reconsidered, and they would have to say, "Yes, we'll send

00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.400
 it back," or "No."

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:51.000
 So we wanted to create a process for you to be able to reconsider items that have already

00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:55.660
 been publicly noticed for City Council.

00:50:55.660 --> 00:51:00.240
 So here's the recommended process, and so this has been adjusted from our conversations

00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:02.200
 we had last month.

00:51:02.200 --> 00:51:07.320
 So for items that are not publicly noticed for City Council consideration the following

00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:12.720
 week, so this is your normal process that you will follow, is you will let us know by

00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:19.080
 10 o'clock a.m. prior to that next following meeting as if an item needed to be, you requested

00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:20.780
 a reconsideration.

00:51:20.780 --> 00:51:26.560
 If it's an item that has been publicly noticed and is on the agenda for City Council the

00:51:26.560 --> 00:51:32.280
 following week of that planning zoning commission during that week, you need to let us know

00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:35.920
 by 10 o'clock a.m. the following Friday.

00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:40.880
 So that's one and a half days, the other one is about one and a half weeks.

00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:46.920
 So I'll have a calendar at the end and you can see what that looks like.

00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:52.520
 So again, as I just said, if you want an item to be reconsidered, you would bring it, it

00:51:52.520 --> 00:51:58.520
 will come as an item of consideration first, and depending on how the vote went, it will

00:51:58.520 --> 00:52:02.080
 be back on the following meeting for a public hearing.

00:52:02.080 --> 00:52:07.320
 However, if it doesn't, then we'll go through the proper protocols to get it publicly noticed

00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:12.860
 again to go to City Council.

00:52:12.860 --> 00:52:15.200
 So here's the calendars.

00:52:15.200 --> 00:52:22.680
 So the calendar on my left, it's the calendar showing for items not publicly noticed for

00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:24.040
 City Council consideration.

00:52:24.040 --> 00:52:29.140
 So you see that following Thursday, 10 a.m., before your next meeting, you need to let

00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:33.360
 us know if you want an item to be reconsidered.

00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.760
 If it's an item that has already been publicly noticed for City Council the following week

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:43.320
 from your meeting, that's the calendar on the right, then we need to know the Friday.

00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:48.440
 So if you look April 16th, excuse me, August 16th, we need to know based on your August

00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:55.820
 14th original vote that was made, we need to know by that following Friday at 10 a.m.

00:52:55.820 --> 00:53:00.080
 Are there any questions or comments?

00:53:00.080 --> 00:53:04.240
 Commissioner Perot?

00:53:04.240 --> 00:53:05.240
 Looks good.

00:53:05.240 --> 00:53:10.840
 I just want to check -- sorry, I don't have chapter and verse from the backup, but when

00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:19.200
 you just said by the -- sorry.

00:53:19.200 --> 00:53:24.720
 The situation I'm trying to make sure we have covered is if the City Council meeting, just

00:53:24.720 --> 00:53:35.320
 because of schedule offsets, is 13 days from the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting

00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.560
 instead of six days, right?

00:53:38.560 --> 00:53:51.920
 So like on the left, if the City Council meeting is on the 27th instead of the 20th, then since

00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.960
 the City Council meeting would be before the next Planning and Zoning meeting, I'm assuming

00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:02.200
 that the purple asterisk would still apply, but I'm not sure whether it would apply on

00:54:02.200 --> 00:54:03.920
 the 16th or the 23rd.

00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.960
 Does that make sense?

00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:06.960
 Yes.

00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:07.960
 Okay.

00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:15.320
 Dana, you have an answer for that.

00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:23.480
 So we tried to address the normal council schedules.

00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:30.320
 If we had a situation where the council meeting was a little bit larger gap between what it

00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:35.360
 would normally be and where that meeting was scheduled, my recommendation would be we'd

00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:40.080
 still follow the process on the left because we have not been publicly noticed to be able

00:54:40.080 --> 00:54:42.840
 to provide for some continuity.

00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:48.720
 We actually went down that rabbit hole with staff trying to work through that and seeing

00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:56.760
 we could come up with something else and it did not result in any good solutions being

00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:57.760
 proposed.

00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:03.360
 And so therefore, we think the process that's on the left is generally what you're more

00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.360
 accustomed to.

00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:08.640
 We tried to maximize the amount of time for the commission, but also know that if we get

00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:12.280
 a request for reconsideration, keep in mind, there's administrative work we've got to do

00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:16.360
 where we've got to pull together that report and be able to get that on your agendas in

00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.240
 a timely manner where we can get it posted.

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:23.200
 So we tried to maximize the time there, but if the council meeting ended up being farther

00:55:23.200 --> 00:55:26.920
 out, then I would say we would still stick with the normal process because it's very

00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:31.000
 difficult to codify any potential scenario when it comes to scheduling.

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.880
 So we opted for continuity and some consistency.

00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.040
 Yeah, and if I could just jump in, because it really doesn't matter necessarily when

00:55:38.040 --> 00:55:39.040
 the meeting is.

00:55:39.040 --> 00:55:41.200
 It matters when the item is on their agenda.

00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:43.920
 That's really what the issue is, right?

00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:49.920
 Not when their meeting is going to be, whether it's a week after or 13 days after, right?

00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:56.280
 So not when it's on the agenda, but when it's already been noticed as a released public

00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:57.280
 agenda.

00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:58.280
 Got it.

00:55:58.280 --> 00:55:59.520
 Yeah, that's what's trying to be done here.

00:55:59.520 --> 00:56:01.640
 Thank you for helping me with that.

00:56:01.640 --> 00:56:02.640
 Sure.

00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:03.640
 Anybody else?

00:56:03.640 --> 00:56:04.640
 No?

00:56:04.640 --> 00:56:05.640
 Okay.

00:56:05.640 --> 00:56:06.640
 Yeah, thank you.

00:56:06.640 --> 00:56:10.920
 I think with our discussion last time, I think this solves the issue that we were all having

00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.240
 with it being that fast track date.

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:16.040
 So thank you for the extra work.

00:56:16.040 --> 00:56:17.040
 Okay.

00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:18.040
 Thank you.

00:56:18.040 --> 00:56:19.720
 I was just going to show you the tentative schedule.

00:56:19.720 --> 00:56:24.440
 So tentatively, we'll come back July 17th for a public hearing and then August 6th is

00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.200
 tentatively for City Council.

00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:28.200
 Thank you.

00:56:28.200 --> 00:56:30.200
 Thank you very much.

00:56:30.200 --> 00:56:32.400
 Okay.

00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:34.660
 That is the last thing in our work session.

00:56:34.660 --> 00:56:39.680
 So I'll go ahead and close our work session at 6 p.m. and we will reconvene in council

00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:41.280
 chambers at 630.

00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.280
 Thank you.

00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.880
 Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for

00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.280
 Wednesday, June 26th, 2024.

00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:54.120
 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 632 p.m.

00:56:54.120 --> 00:56:58.760
 Let the record show that Commissioner Thaggard is absent this evening.

00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:03.040
 First item is Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas Flags.

00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:11.160
 I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:19.600
 which it stands, one Nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

00:57:19.600 --> 00:57:27.600
 Honored Texas Flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State, under God, one Nation,

00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:28.600
 indivisible.

00:57:28.600 --> 00:57:36.960
 Thank you, our first order of business is the approval of our minutes from our meeting

00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:41.840
 for June 12th.

00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:42.840
 Commissioner Villarreal.

00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:43.840
 Move approval.

00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:44.840
 Commissioner Cole.

00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:45.840
 Second.

00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:46.840
 Got a first and a second for approval.

00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:47.840
 Any discussion?

00:57:47.840 --> 00:58:00.640
 Okay, let's go ahead and vote, please.

00:58:00.640 --> 00:58:02.440
 That motion carries 5-0.

00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:09.080
 That will take us to our consent agenda for this evening.

00:58:09.080 --> 00:58:10.080
 Commissioner Villarreal.

00:58:10.080 --> 00:58:11.080
 Move approval.

00:58:11.080 --> 00:58:18.800
 Okay, I'm going to wait for, okay, Commissioner Cole.

00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:19.800
 Second.

00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.320
 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval of our consent agenda.

00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:24.320
 Discussion?

00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:32.800
 Okay, let's vote, please.

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.400
 That motion carries 5-0.

00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.840
 That will take us to our items for individual consideration.

00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:42.240
 That first being 4A, FP240024.

00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:46.160
 Matt is here for presentation of that item.

00:58:46.160 --> 00:58:47.960
 Hello?

00:58:47.960 --> 00:59:06.400
 Good evening, Commission, Matt Bourdine, Assistant Planner, presenting FP240024 on behalf of

00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.800
 Sean Jacobson.

00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:15.840
 This is to consider a quest of a final plot of Sage Creek townhomes located at the intersection

00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.920
 of Audre Lane and Lattimore Street.

00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:25.200
 The purpose of this plot is to establish 163 residential townhome lots, nine common area

00:59:25.200 --> 00:59:30.880
 lots, as well as easements and right-of-way necessary for development.

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:38.080
 This plot, as it is right now, does not meet the criteria for approval, so staff is recommending

00:59:38.080 --> 00:59:39.080
 denial.

00:59:39.080 --> 00:59:44.560
 However, staff has no objection to the submitted request for an extension, and this would be

00:59:44.560 --> 00:59:46.040
 the first extension request.

00:59:46.040 --> 00:59:47.040
 Great.

00:59:47.040 --> 00:59:48.040
 Thank you, Matt.

00:59:48.040 --> 00:59:49.040
 Discussion?

00:59:49.040 --> 00:59:50.040
 Okay.

00:59:50.040 --> 00:59:55.960
 Thank you very much.

00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:56.960
 Commissioner Villarreal.

00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:03.240
 I move approval of the extension request to a date certain of July 24th, 2024.

01:00:03.240 --> 01:00:04.240
 All right.

01:00:04.240 --> 01:00:05.240
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:00:05.240 --> 01:00:06.240
 Second.

01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:07.240
 Okay.

01:00:07.240 --> 01:00:09.040
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of July

01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:12.040
 24th, 2024.

01:00:12.040 --> 01:00:13.040
 Any discussion?

01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:14.040
 Okay.

01:00:14.040 --> 01:00:25.600
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:00:25.600 --> 01:00:28.680
 That motion carries 5-0.

01:00:28.680 --> 01:00:34.800
 Before we move to 4-B, Commissioner Cole is going to abstain from items 4-B through F.

01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.240
 So, we'll let him move.

01:00:37.240 --> 01:00:38.240
 Okay.

01:00:38.240 --> 01:00:41.440
 And then I'll go ahead and invite Julie up.

01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.240
 Oh, Mia is presenting this one.

01:00:43.240 --> 01:00:44.240
 I'm sorry.

01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:45.240
 It's 4-B, FP240022.

01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:46.240
 That's cool.

01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:55.200
 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hine, Senior Planner, standing in for

01:00:55.200 --> 01:01:01.360
 Julie Wyatt, who's the planner on this project, presenting to you Robson Ranch Unit 40, the

01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.320
 final plat, FP240022.

01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:10.720
 The site is 54 acres located just east of Ed Robson Boulevard and approximately 650

01:01:10.720 --> 01:01:13.720
 feet north of Goodland Drive.

01:01:13.720 --> 01:01:17.800
 At this time, the plat is not ready for approval, so we are recommending denial.

01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:23.000
 However, we have no objection to the first requested extension, which could be granted

01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.360
 to July 24, 2024.

01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.720
 With that, I'll take any questions you have.

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:30.720
 Thanks, Mia.

01:01:30.720 --> 01:01:34.560
 Thank you very much.

01:01:34.560 --> 01:01:35.560
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:01:35.560 --> 01:01:36.560
 Yeah.

01:01:36.560 --> 01:01:44.760
 I'll move approval for the requested extension to a date certain of July 24, 2024.

01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:45.760
 Thank you.

01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:46.760
 Commissioner Villanueva?

01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:47.760
 Second.

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.120
 Okay, we've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of

01:01:50.120 --> 01:01:53.360
 July 24, 2024.

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:54.360
 Discussion?

01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:55.360
 Okay.

01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:09.160
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:10.760
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:17.880
 That will take us to 4C, FP240012B, and Erin is here for presentation.

01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:18.880
 Yes.

01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:19.880
 Good evening, Chair.

01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:20.880
 Members of the Commission.

01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:24.840
 Erin Stanley, Assistant Planner, presenting this for Cameron Robertson.

01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:29.440
 This is phase one of the Hunter Ranch development.

01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:36.280
 This is generally located north of Robson Ranch Road and west of I-35W.

01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:43.500
 This is a 53-acre site for 95 single-family lots and 10 HOA lots, and staff is recommending

01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:46.880
 approval as they've met all of the criteria.

01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:50.560
 Thanks, Erin.

01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:56.520
 I'll go ahead and make a motion for approval of this item, Commissioner Villareal.

01:02:56.520 --> 01:02:57.520
 Second.

01:02:57.520 --> 01:02:58.520
 Okay.

01:02:58.520 --> 01:03:00.400
 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion.

01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:01.400
 Okay.

01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:17.640
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:03:17.640 --> 01:03:19.840
 Motion carries 4-0.

01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.720
 That will take us to 4D, FP240013B.

01:03:22.720 --> 01:03:29.840
 Sorry, Margie, just for the record, I think that last vote went through as a continue

01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:34.760
 to a date certain, as opposed to approval.

01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:35.760
 On the board?

01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:36.760
 Yeah.

01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:37.760
 I didn't know.

01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.720
 I'm not sure what we need to do there.

01:03:42.720 --> 01:04:00.920
 Did we have a technical difficulty there?

01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:07.600
 Nope.

01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:16.320
 This was item 4C.

01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:20.800
 Do we need to read?

01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:24.000
 We're okay?

01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.080
 Okay.

01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:26.080
 Thank you.

01:04:26.080 --> 01:04:27.080
 Okay.

01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:28.080
 Okay.

01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:29.080
 Go ahead, Erin.

01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:30.080
 Thank you.

01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:31.080
 Are we good?

01:04:31.080 --> 01:04:32.080
 Good?

01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:33.080
 Yeah, we're good.

01:04:33.080 --> 01:04:34.080
 Okay.

01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:35.080
 Yeah.

01:04:35.080 --> 01:04:39.240
 So, the next one is Hunter Ranch Phase 1B.

01:04:39.240 --> 01:04:45.840
 This is approximately 53 acres for 180 single family lots and eight HOA lots, and staff

01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:50.000
 is recommending approval as it meets all criteria.

01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.120
 Thanks, Erin.

01:04:53.120 --> 01:04:54.120
 Commissioner Villareal?

01:04:54.120 --> 01:04:55.120
 Move approval.

01:04:55.120 --> 01:04:56.120
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:04:56.120 --> 01:04:57.120
 Second.

01:04:57.120 --> 01:05:00.840
 We've got a first and a second for approval of item 4D.

01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:01.840
 Any discussion?

01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:02.840
 Okay.

01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:16.060
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:05:16.060 --> 01:05:17.400
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:23.800
 That will take us to 4E, FP240014B.

01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.880
 This is Hunter Ranch Phase 1C.

01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:35.720
 This is 67 acres for 287 single family lots and 10 HOA lots, and staff is also recommending

01:05:35.720 --> 01:05:36.720
 approval.

01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:37.720
 Thank you.

01:05:37.720 --> 01:05:38.720
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:05:38.720 --> 01:05:39.720
 Move approval.

01:05:39.720 --> 01:05:40.720
 Commissioner Villareal?

01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:41.720
 Second.

01:05:41.720 --> 01:05:42.720
 Okay.

01:05:42.720 --> 01:05:49.960
 We've got a first and a second for 4E, FP240014B discussion.

01:05:49.960 --> 01:06:05.440
 Okay, let's vote, please.

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:14.480
 That motion carries 4-0, taking us to 4F, FP240015.

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:24.560
 This is Hunter Ranch Phase 1D on 56 acres for 185 single family lots and 8 HOA lots,

01:06:24.560 --> 01:06:27.240
 and staff is also recommending approval.

01:06:27.240 --> 01:06:28.240
 Great.

01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:31.240
 Thank you, Erin.

01:06:31.240 --> 01:06:33.880
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:35.600
 Move approval.

01:06:35.600 --> 01:06:36.600
 Commissioner Padrone?

01:06:36.600 --> 01:06:37.600
 Second.

01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:38.600
 Okay.

01:06:38.600 --> 01:06:40.360
 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion.

01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:49.200
 Okay, let's vote, please.

01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:55.120
 That motion carries 4-0.

01:06:55.120 --> 01:07:00.780
 That will take us to item 4G, FP240021.

01:07:00.780 --> 01:07:05.780
 Give Commissioner Cole a moment to join us.

01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:06.780
 Thank you.

01:07:06.780 --> 01:07:07.780
 Hi, Matt.

01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:08.780
 Good evening.

01:07:08.780 --> 01:07:17.640
 Matt Bodean, Assistant Planner, here to consider a final plot of forest crossing Phase 2 addition

01:07:17.640 --> 01:07:24.360
 and approximately 20-acre track on May Hill Road north of McKinney Street.

01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:31.200
 This final plot creates two lots in the easements for development to construct a multi-family

01:07:31.200 --> 01:07:38.960
 development that received approval of a specific use permit by City Council on February 7,

01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:44.120
 2023, as well as dedicate right away for a new collector's street.

01:07:44.120 --> 01:07:50.040
 An updated version of this plot was sent to the commission on Monday.

01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:56.520
 That plot meets the criteria for approval, so staff is recommending approval of the plot.

01:07:56.520 --> 01:07:59.520
 Thank you very much.

01:07:59.520 --> 01:08:04.160
 Okay.

01:08:04.160 --> 01:08:05.160
 Commissioner Villarreal.

01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:06.160
 Move approval.

01:08:06.160 --> 01:08:07.160
 Commissioner Pruitt.

01:08:07.160 --> 01:08:08.160
 Second.

01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:11.360
 We've got a first and a second for approval of 4G.

01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.520
 Any discussion?

01:08:13.520 --> 01:08:22.240
 Okay, let's vote, please.

01:08:22.240 --> 01:08:24.520
 That motion carries 5-0.

01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:32.240
 Access to 4HFP240023.

01:08:32.240 --> 01:08:39.800
 This is a final plot of Riviera addition, an approximately 15-acre tract on the north

01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.520
 side of Fishtrap Road.

01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:47.440
 This is to create a lot of record from a previously unplotted tract of land.

01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:53.520
 The staff is recommending a denial at this time because the plot doesn't quite meet the

01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:54.520
 criteria for approval.

01:08:54.520 --> 01:09:02.720
 However, we do not object to the requested extension to date certain of July 24, 2024.

01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:03.720
 Great.

01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:04.720
 Thanks, ma'am.

01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:05.720
 Commissioner Villarreal.

01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:11.200
 Move approval of the extension request to date certain of July 24, 2024.

01:09:11.200 --> 01:09:12.200
 Okay.

01:09:12.200 --> 01:09:13.200
 Thank you.

01:09:13.200 --> 01:09:14.200
 Commissioner Cole.

01:09:14.200 --> 01:09:15.200
 Second.

01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:18.040
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to date certain of July

01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:20.040
 24, 2024.

01:09:20.040 --> 01:09:23.440
 Seeing no discussion, let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:09:23.440 --> 01:09:33.400
 That motion carries 5-0.

01:09:33.400 --> 01:09:42.600
 We'll take us to 4I PD240005, and that is Mia's item here this evening.

01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:43.600
 Hi.

01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:44.600
 Hello.

01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:45.600
 Good evening again.

01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:49.200
 Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner.

01:09:49.200 --> 01:09:58.040
 Yes, so this item, PD240005, this is the second time you are receiving a presentation on this

01:09:58.040 --> 01:09:59.040
 item.

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:03.160
 As it was, the public hearing was continued to this date at the last meeting.

01:10:03.160 --> 01:10:08.960
 Just a brief overview, a reminder of the site and the case at hand.

01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:15.840
 This is a request to rezone property from R6 to PD with a light industrial-based zoning

01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.120
 district, and that's a PD overlay.

01:10:18.120 --> 01:10:24.480
 The site itself is just under 53 acres, located north of Black Road, approximately 800 feet

01:10:24.480 --> 01:10:30.940
 east of Giesling Road, and it's a part of a larger 86.07-acre tract, which is outlined

01:10:30.940 --> 01:10:32.880
 there in yellow.

01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:37.300
 The request itself would establish light industrial-based zoning on this site.

01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:40.480
 It also would require ESA compliance and zoning compliance plan review.

01:10:40.480 --> 01:10:46.720
 It establishes a 250-foot building setback, requires a 50-foot wide landscape buffer with

01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:58.040
 50 points adjacent to the residential properties to the east and south of the subject property.

01:10:58.040 --> 01:11:03.420
 In addition to the restrictions that we had initially published for the first meeting

01:11:03.420 --> 01:11:08.560
 that this public hearing was at, there were some additional concessions that the applicant

01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:14.000
 agreed to after hearing the neighboring residents' feedback at the last meeting.

01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:20.920
 Specifically, they are proposing to add in the condition to the land use compatibility

01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:29.320
 buffer area that allows for a masonry wall to be placed and counted towards their landscape

01:11:29.320 --> 01:11:35.000
 buffer points, but to be placed in a way that basically preserves the existing tree canopy

01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:40.400
 within the 50-foot buffer that they are proposing between their subject site and the residential

01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:42.400
 zone properties adjacent to it.

01:11:42.400 --> 01:11:47.880
 Additionally, they are proposing to restrict uses that would otherwise be permitted under

01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.120
 the base light industrial zoning district.

01:11:50.120 --> 01:11:55.240
 Specifically, those uses are major and minor automotive repair, auto fuel sales, travel

01:11:55.240 --> 01:11:58.480
 plaza, hotel, motel, and parking lot as a principal use.

01:11:58.480 --> 01:12:05.880
 Finally, they are proposing to cap the maximum building height within this area to 55 feet,

01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:12.080
 whereas the base light industrial zoning district would allow for that to go up to 75 feet.

01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:15.760
 With that, staff is recommending approval of this request as it meets our criteria for

01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.440
 approval, and that concludes my presentation this evening for you.

01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:23.560
 I do have the applicant here who would like to speak as well.

01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:24.560
 Sure.

01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:25.560
 Thank you.

01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:26.560
 Any questions for me at this time?

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:27.560
 Okay.

01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:28.560
 Thank you very much.

01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:33.560
 And yes, I'll go ahead and invite Amy Bissett up for discussion.

01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:34.560
 Hello.

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:35.560
 Good evening, commissioners.

01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:36.560
 Hello.

01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.560
 Amy Bissett, 109 North Elm, 76201.

01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:44.360
 I brought some slides, but I'm not going to share them unless you ask some specific questions

01:12:44.360 --> 01:12:46.500
 where we might need to go into detail.

01:12:46.500 --> 01:12:51.600
 I just wanted to share that since we were here two weeks ago, we did work through the

01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:57.840
 language for the PD standards, specifically to ... I spent some time with the neighbors

01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:03.320
 after the last meeting, and we talked through what their real objectives were between preservation

01:13:03.320 --> 01:13:11.720
 of tree canopy and natural area versus the masonry wall and how that could cause the

01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:13.920
 killing of the trees that they're trying to save.

01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:19.600
 And ultimately, they ranked preservation of trees and natural area above the masonry wall,

01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:24.920
 which is why the PD standards are written the way they are today, so that they reflect

01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:29.000
 the desire of the neighborhood in order of importance.

01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:34.520
 And we do have a few neighbors here this evening, and I just want to say again that it's been

01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:35.720
 a pleasure to work with them.

01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:41.520
 And I feel like the conditions that are before you tonight accurately reflect the desires

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:48.400
 of the neighborhood to the greatest extent possible, reflecting my applicant's wish to

01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:49.400
 rezone.

01:13:49.400 --> 01:13:50.400
 So thank you.

01:13:50.400 --> 01:13:51.400
 Great.

01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:52.400
 Thank you.

01:13:52.400 --> 01:13:53.400
 Any questions for Ms. Bissett?

01:13:53.400 --> 01:13:54.400
 All right.

01:13:54.400 --> 01:13:55.400
 Thank you.

01:13:55.400 --> 01:13:56.400
 Okay.

01:13:56.400 --> 01:13:57.400
 Appreciate it.

01:13:57.400 --> 01:13:59.920
 You're welcome to ask me, but if there is anyone in the audience who would like to speak

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:04.360
 on this item, you are welcome to do so.

01:14:04.360 --> 01:14:08.480
 Hi.

01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:09.480
 Good evening.

01:14:09.480 --> 01:14:10.480
 Good evening.

01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:13.560
 Jonathan Brooks, 5579 Black Road in Texas, 76208.

01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.280
 I spoke to you guys last time about this.

01:14:16.280 --> 01:14:22.680
 I did meet with Amy after the meeting and then again a few times in between these two meetings.

01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:28.400
 And I was very happy with what I understand the proposal to be, as Amy has explained it

01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:33.960
 to me, with specifically the tree canopy not being disturbed.

01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:43.920
 If I'm looking to you as the experts in this area, and I'm asking really, is the new proposal

01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:48.120
 that has been put forth concerning the 50 points, which I'm not exactly sure exactly

01:14:48.120 --> 01:14:49.120
 what that means.

01:14:49.120 --> 01:14:52.120
 I know it has to do with trees and shrubs and things like that.

01:14:52.120 --> 01:14:56.280
 And the setting of where the wall doesn't necessarily have to be.

01:14:56.280 --> 01:15:01.600
 But if the new buyer, whoever buys it, wants to put it there, does it seem to you that

01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:06.280
 it will preserve, it won't kill those trees that are along the border in that 50 foot

01:15:06.280 --> 01:15:07.280
 buffer zone?

01:15:07.280 --> 01:15:09.320
 So that's a question I'm asking.

01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:10.320
 Yes.

01:15:10.320 --> 01:15:18.600
 And Mia, do you have that verbiage that we can put up that's in front of us?

01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.080
 Do you have it to read?

01:15:20.080 --> 01:15:21.080
 Yep.

01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:22.080
 That would be great.

01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:23.840
 I think that will answer your question.

01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:24.840
 That's really it?

01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:25.840
 Yes.

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:26.840
 Okay.

01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:27.840
 Thank you, Ms. Brooks.

01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.840
 And thank you, Amy, for that.

01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:34.880
 You bet.

01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:45.640
 Oh, I do also want to say that one of you asked for the alignment of Giesling Road and

01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:46.640
 text on improvements.

01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.320
 And I do have a slide on that as well, if you'd like to review that.

01:15:50.320 --> 01:15:56.400
 Here is the verbiage, a minimum 50 foot wide landscape buffer shall be required as illustrated

01:15:56.400 --> 01:16:01.960
 in Figure 1, which is included in your backup, all of the buffer areas we discussed.

01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:06.680
 It has to contain 50 points of buffer planting or screening elements.

01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:11.160
 And the eight foot tall masonry screening wall, if provided, may receive credit for

01:16:11.160 --> 01:16:18.400
 buffer points, even if it is located further than 50 feet from the buffer area.

01:16:18.400 --> 01:16:22.620
 If the wall is located to provide screening between the development on the subject property

01:16:22.620 --> 01:16:27.920
 and those residential properties, any screening wall constructed shall be outside of any environmentally

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:32.600
 sensitive areas and the wall shall be located far enough from all healthy trees located

01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:37.160
 within the 50 foot buffer, such that the wall footing and construction do not impact the

01:16:37.160 --> 01:16:41.240
 critical root zone of all healthy trees within the buffer being preserved.

01:16:41.240 --> 01:16:42.240
 Excellent.

01:16:42.240 --> 01:16:45.240
 Thank you for reading that.

01:16:45.240 --> 01:16:52.380
 Do you want to see the alignment at Giesling?

01:16:52.380 --> 01:16:57.440
 The neighbors might be curious about this as well, so this was just recently released

01:16:57.440 --> 01:17:04.040
 by TextDOT right after the last PNZ meeting, and this is preliminary at this point in time.

01:17:04.040 --> 01:17:07.640
 Construction would not occur until 2028 or '29 at the earliest.

01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:15.160
 But as of right now, what TextDOT is proposing is just east of Giesling here, the main land

01:17:15.160 --> 01:17:24.720
 lanes of 380 would become a bridge over Giesling, and there would be both an exit and an entrance

01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:29.880
 off of the main lanes to be able to access Giesling, which would be a signalized intersection

01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:30.880
 going forward.

01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:36.400
 So I do think that improves the traffic conditions for traffic coming in and out of that location

01:17:36.400 --> 01:17:37.400
 going forward.

01:17:37.400 --> 01:17:38.400
 Great.

01:17:38.400 --> 01:17:39.400
 Thank you.

01:17:39.400 --> 01:17:40.400
 Thank you for providing that.

01:17:40.400 --> 01:17:41.400
 Appreciate it.

01:17:41.400 --> 01:17:42.400
 Thank you.

01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:45.560
 Yep, come on down.

01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:46.560
 Sure.

01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:51.480
 My name is Eric Janssen.

01:17:51.480 --> 01:17:59.320
 I reside at 3617 Falcon Court in South Denton, but I have property nearby here, and I would

01:17:59.320 --> 01:18:03.880
 invite Amy to come back up and confirm what I heard at the TextDOT meeting is if you look

01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:10.400
 at that schematic, and this is in the context of the conversation two weeks ago about access

01:18:10.400 --> 01:18:18.040
 to the property, what I understood from that TextDOT is there will be no ingress or egress

01:18:18.040 --> 01:18:23.080
 allowed from the subject property to university.

01:18:23.080 --> 01:18:29.560
 The only ingress and egress from the subject property will be via Giesling, and we were

01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:34.400
 under the impression that there would be Giesling and university, and so there really wouldn't

01:18:34.400 --> 01:18:39.240
 be much need for much traffic to go in and out of Black Road.

01:18:39.240 --> 01:18:44.840
 That green on the south side of the red, the green that goes east from Giesling and goes

01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:55.880
 past the flea market is an enclosed ramp that feeds onto the continuation of eastbound 380.

01:18:55.880 --> 01:19:02.800
 What TextDOT explained to me was that there will be a wall there that encloses the lane.

01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:07.160
 The subject property, light industrial, whether it develops in a year, whether it develops

01:19:07.160 --> 01:19:16.960
 in five years or whenever, there will be no ingress or egress northbound to the 380 as

01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:17.960
 they currently have.

01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:24.360
 There will be no ingress or egress until such time as frontage roads are built, and the

01:19:24.360 --> 01:19:31.200
 TextDOT planners at the meeting a week ago said there's no telling when that would be.

01:19:31.200 --> 01:19:34.860
 Perhaps Amy can elaborate because I think she may have had some other conversations

01:19:34.860 --> 01:19:40.720
 with them about the subject in the past week or so, but it's just important for the planners

01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:46.800
 to understand and for neighbors to understand that all ingress and egress will essentially

01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:52.760
 be Giesling until such time that frontage roads are constructed because the way TextDOT

01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:57.880
 currently has their plan, there will be a wall and there will be no way to get in or

01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:02.960
 out from the north side of the property.

01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:04.960
 Is that pretty much?

01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:05.960
 Thank you very much.

01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:06.960
 [inaudible]

01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:07.960
 Sure.

01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:08.960
 Amy, yeah.

01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:09.960
 Come on up.

01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:10.960
 Yeah.

01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:11.960
 If you want to ...

01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:23.840
 So what has been previously proposed in terms of access to 380 from Giesling would be limited

01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:30.760
 at maximum to ride in, ride out, and we were under the impression under previous zoning

01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:37.400
 changes related to this property that that would be a challenging ask to begin with.

01:20:37.400 --> 01:20:43.460
 What we like about this plan is that it does give a protected right-hand turn and left-hand

01:20:43.460 --> 01:20:51.200
 turn for all truck traffic onto 380s so that it would actually, in my non-expert traffic

01:20:51.200 --> 01:20:57.060
 opinion, alleviate any pressure off of black because truck traffic is going to go straight

01:20:57.060 --> 01:21:00.880
 out to 380 and they'll be able to turn left or right, they wouldn't have to take black

01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:04.600
 east or west to find a signalized intersection.

01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:11.400
 We always assumed that any entrance or exit off of 380 would be restricted to ride in,

01:21:11.400 --> 01:21:17.240
 ride out, and would not solve that issue, so we feel that this is an improvement to

01:21:17.240 --> 01:21:23.320
 that that would prevent the truck traffic from using black to get to a different intersection,

01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:24.320
 if that makes sense.

01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:25.320
 That does.

01:21:25.320 --> 01:21:31.880
 And at this point, these plans could change, this is very early for TxDOT, and it would

01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:37.080
 be constructed six or seven years from now where, with any luck, this project will be

01:21:37.080 --> 01:21:38.080
 developed by then.

01:21:38.080 --> 01:21:39.080
 Thank you.

01:21:39.080 --> 01:21:40.080
 Thank you very much.

01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:45.480
 Commissioner Pedro, was that question, is that question for Amy or?

01:21:45.480 --> 01:21:51.360
 I'm actually just curious if we could go through the remainder of her slides that she created.

01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:58.080
 Just as it's here, I would like to see what other slides are presented.

01:21:58.080 --> 01:22:02.360
 Most of them are what I went through two weeks ago, but I think you may have missed that

01:22:02.360 --> 01:22:03.360
 meeting.

01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:04.360
 No, you were here?

01:22:04.360 --> 01:22:05.360
 Okay.

01:22:05.360 --> 01:22:11.360
 So just as a quick recap, this property has been before you all before.

01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:17.760
 In 2021, the northwest portion of it was rezoned to light industrial to facilitate a project

01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.360
 that didn't materialize at that time.

01:22:20.360 --> 01:22:25.040
 The current property owners own the entire tract outlined in red here.

01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:28.280
 They're marketing the property for sale and are seeking...

01:22:28.280 --> 01:22:35.000
 Oh, sure thing, yes, thank you.

01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:36.660
 They're seeking consistent zoning.

01:22:36.660 --> 01:22:39.400
 Right now, it's a split zoning on one tract.

01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:45.480
 So that's the purpose of coming before you now rather than waiting until there is a developer.

01:22:45.480 --> 01:22:51.520
 And there are significant in conferences on the site that make it unsuitable for residential

01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:57.280
 development, including electric transmission lines, a gas pipeline, and it's adjacent to

01:22:57.280 --> 01:23:00.440
 an electric substation.

01:23:00.440 --> 01:23:05.600
 The future land use plan does show a transition area between low residential and light industrial

01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:12.720
 along the borders of all the residentially zoned properties or homes that are in the

01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:20.040
 DJ today, and in respect of that transition area, that is why we have proposed the increased

01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:26.360
 setback to 250 feet and the increased landscape buffer to 50 feet.

01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:32.600
 And we did initially propose those conditions to only be along the east property line and

01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:37.880
 had two neighborhood meetings with the neighbors in May.

01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:46.180
 And after hearing from them, we increased the proposed buffer area to include the properties

01:23:46.180 --> 01:23:48.600
 to the south as well.

01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:55.240
 And this is a slide showing the property owners that we know that we have spoken with over

01:23:55.240 --> 01:23:57.240
 the months.

01:23:57.240 --> 01:24:05.300
 And we've covered the additional requests and conditions already this evening, and that's

01:24:05.300 --> 01:24:06.300
 really everything.

01:24:06.300 --> 01:24:07.920
 Thank you.

01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:08.920
 Any questions from that?

01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:09.920
 Okay.

01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:10.920
 Questions?

01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:11.920
 No.

01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:12.920
 Okay.

01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:13.920
 Thank you.

01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:17.440
 Is there anyone else who's here that would be wanting to speak?

01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:24.160
 Yeah, come on down.

01:24:24.160 --> 01:24:27.960
 Okay, thanks.

01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:31.680
 Tom Brooks, 6801 Appaloosa Court, 76208.

01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:36.160
 I spoke with you guys previously and really wanted to address two concerns.

01:24:36.160 --> 01:24:39.920
 And we've talked a little bit about this last time, I think, and it's been discussed a little

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:45.800
 bit earlier today regarding the traffic issue along Blag.

01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:52.160
 Certainly appreciate all of the information regarding the developments along 380 and the

01:24:52.160 --> 01:24:56.680
 bypass and all that, but it still doesn't address anything that may come down May Hill

01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.320
 onto Blag and then down Giesling.

01:24:59.320 --> 01:25:04.520
 I mean, I'm not sure if the city's considered anything to prevent potential truck traffic

01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.920
 coming down Blag from May Hill.

01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:15.720
 That's a bigger issue too, because as I mentioned before, Blag Road barely can sustain two vehicles

01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:22.720
 going in each direction as opposed to one single large truck, so serious safety concerns

01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:23.720
 there.

01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:32.360
 The other one is, we've discussed this, I live on the east side of the proposed rezoning

01:25:32.360 --> 01:25:41.600
 piece of property, it is a good portion of that ESA, that creek that runs through there.

01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:49.840
 I think for me, there's concern to rezone this piece of property without knowing what

01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:56.320
 would be developed on that in any future time and what implications that would have on that

01:25:56.320 --> 01:25:58.280
 ESA from a drainage perspective.

01:25:58.280 --> 01:26:03.120
 So I think it's a little premature to be making decisions, but I can understand their concerns

01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:08.120
 to try and zone it consistently across the board, and certainly the concessions they've

01:26:08.120 --> 01:26:13.440
 made on that property, but the one thing it doesn't address is any of the drainage issues.

01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:21.460
 I know that there's language in the DDC regarding ESAs and drainage about that'll be looked

01:26:21.460 --> 01:26:27.000
 at when the time comes, but I think it should be looked at now.

01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:31.480
 I live on that east side of the property where all that drainage comes to, and I have concerns

01:26:31.480 --> 01:26:34.520
 of any flooding, that's what I wanted to show you here.

01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:40.420
 Part of my concerns is this is a video of one of the property owners in Lakeview where

01:26:40.420 --> 01:26:45.680
 this creek runs through, and this is a typical rainfall, so there's a detention pond on a

01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:52.460
 person's property adjacent to this guy's property, and you can see this.

01:26:52.460 --> 01:26:58.920
 This is the issue that we're running into when this creek floods.

01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:05.040
 That's significant runoff from a detention pond into this person's property, and this

01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:09.300
 is what I see on my property anytime there's a significant rainfall.

01:27:09.300 --> 01:27:15.320
 Now if we build something on that property in question, there's issues.

01:27:15.320 --> 01:27:20.740
 My house is probably going to get flooded if not taken care of properly, so I have huge

01:27:20.740 --> 01:27:22.440
 concerns regarding this.

01:27:22.440 --> 01:27:29.080
 Not just me, but everyone that lives in Lakeview Ranch that this creek comes through, and so

01:27:29.080 --> 01:27:32.320
 I think that needs to be considered.

01:27:32.320 --> 01:27:36.900
 Certainly I've read through a lot of the guidelines, the ESA and the drainage guidelines

01:27:36.900 --> 01:27:40.600
 in the DDC.

01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:46.480
 You guys say that you'll make the right decisions, right research and planning, do the analysis,

01:27:46.480 --> 01:27:48.240
 but that's not going to prevent anything.

01:27:48.240 --> 01:27:51.040
 What are the repercussions if something does happen?

01:27:51.040 --> 01:27:54.240
 Who's going to take care of my house if it does flood?

01:27:54.240 --> 01:27:58.440
 I'm asking you guys, right?

01:27:58.440 --> 01:28:02.320
 I'll let Steph answer that question.

01:28:02.320 --> 01:28:06.080
 Yeah, so those are my concerns, right?

01:28:06.080 --> 01:28:07.080
 Sure.

01:28:07.080 --> 01:28:08.080
 Any questions for me?

01:28:08.080 --> 01:28:12.360
 Yeah, I definitely, certainly understand your questions.

01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:17.040
 When we consider what we consider up here, which in this case is the zoning case, that's

01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:22.900
 what's before us today, we're not engineers up here, so a lot of the things that you're

01:28:22.900 --> 01:28:30.720
 asking for absolutely have to come when engineering and their crew are looking at something specific

01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:31.720
 that's being built here.

01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:32.720
 Yeah.

01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:33.720
 It can't really be looked at ahead of time.

01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:35.600
 But you're making decisions before those decisions are here, right?

01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.640
 Well, we're making a zoning decision.

01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:38.640
 Correct.

01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:43.680
 That's going to affect this property or all of these properties in the future to come,

01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:44.680
 right?

01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:48.920
 That's what we are, and we're going to hope that perhaps with the parameters and the communication

01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:52.780
 and the discussion that's been done.

01:28:52.780 --> 01:28:56.520
 Given the certain guidelines, and there's a lot of good language in those guidelines.

01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:58.680
 I read through a lot of it, right?

01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:03.800
 But what's to come of it if something does happen and it's not taken care of properly

01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:06.640
 and properties do flood, right?

01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:09.800
 Again, I'll let Steph answer that question, yes.

01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:15.760
 Well the other part of that question is, okay, so this is a picture of a detention pond and

01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:17.960
 the overflow from that detention pond.

01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:23.800
 So there's plans to potentially put a detention pond on this property that's being rezoned.

01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:24.800
 Where is that going to be?

01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:26.800
 How is it going to be located?

01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:36.560
 So when your engineers go to do the study, are any of the adjacent property owners notified

01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:45.960
 or anyone downstream of this creek notified of the study, the analysis, and the outcome?

01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:46.960
 That's a question.

01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:47.960
 Right.

01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.320
 You're going to have to let me bring staff up here and have them answer that.

01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:54.500
 Being a property owner that's going to be affected, I would like to know that once the

01:29:54.500 --> 01:29:59.040
 study is done, what the outcome of it is, what are the decisions being made that's going

01:29:59.040 --> 01:30:01.040
 to potentially affect my property?

01:30:01.040 --> 01:30:02.040
 Sure.

01:30:02.040 --> 01:30:03.040
 And I understand that.

01:30:03.040 --> 01:30:05.600
 Many of your questions may not be able to be answered at this time.

01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:10.680
 What is the problem with making a zoning decision before you know what's going to be built?

01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:11.680
 Okay.

01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:12.680
 I appreciate it.

01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:13.680
 Thank you for sharing your comments.

01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.040
 I'll see what kind of questions I can get answered for you.

01:30:16.040 --> 01:30:19.840
 Mia, do you want to handle that or Haley wants to handle that?

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:20.840
 Yeah.

01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:23.320
 I'll answer to drainage concerns just a little bit.

01:30:23.320 --> 01:30:24.320
 Thank you.

01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:32.400
 Part of the study of the ESA is knowing what's going to be there and how the potential developments

01:30:32.400 --> 01:30:35.680
 might impact the ESA and might impact the areas around it.

01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:41.400
 One of the things that was talked about in the last meeting was possibly preventing or

01:30:41.400 --> 01:30:48.280
 prohibiting the opportunity for an alternative environmentally sensitive area plan.

01:30:48.280 --> 01:30:56.280
 But we did not go with that concept because in the end, once we have an idea of the development,

01:30:56.280 --> 01:31:03.200
 how much non-permeable surfaces are going to be established on this site and how that

01:31:03.200 --> 01:31:11.240
 might impact the area around it, an alternative plan might actually lend itself to improved

01:31:11.240 --> 01:31:15.520
 conditions for the drainage and things like that in this area.

01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:22.640
 So I hope that speaks to it a little bit is that we'll assess it when we have the development

01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:27.180
 plan because we'll have the numbers to be able to assess exactly the impact that this

01:31:27.180 --> 01:31:31.760
 property would have on the drainage deal.

01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:36.200
 And then as far as just the existing environmentally sensitive area, any property owner at any

01:31:36.200 --> 01:31:43.440
 time can assess that and have a consultant help them with those existing conditions.

01:31:43.440 --> 01:31:44.440
 Okay.

01:31:44.440 --> 01:31:48.000
 Go ahead and see.

01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.560
 Regarding the drainage, just to add to Mia's comment.

01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:54.880
 So first of all, I am not a drainage engineer.

01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:55.880
 I'm not an engineer.

01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:56.880
 I'm a planner.

01:31:56.880 --> 01:32:00.240
 But I work with many drainage engineers and have a basic understanding of also the state

01:32:00.240 --> 01:32:03.000
 statute when it comes to runoff.

01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:09.720
 So we work with the development community and do a thorough evaluation of the civil

01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:14.000
 engineering plans that are submitted, including if there's any need for any downstream assessments

01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.040
 and specialized drainage studies.

01:32:17.040 --> 01:32:23.560
 The city has adopted criteria that we evaluate all developments based upon.

01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:30.460
 State law says that when properties are developed, the end result cannot be more water runoff

01:32:30.460 --> 01:32:32.840
 than the pre-developed condition.

01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:39.240
 So in looking at this, I'm not familiar with your property and there's much of a natural

01:32:39.240 --> 01:32:40.560
 area that's there right now.

01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.860
 I don't know the rain event that transpired, so I can't speak to this detailed situation

01:32:44.860 --> 01:32:46.240
 that you're presenting.

01:32:46.240 --> 01:32:52.200
 But what I can share with you is that we have folks that are trained on our team in the

01:32:52.200 --> 01:32:53.480
 profession.

01:32:53.480 --> 01:33:00.080
 We have a gentleman on our staff that understands drainage and implications associated with

01:33:00.080 --> 01:33:05.840
 it, as well as a whole team of reviewers that we have access to specialized reviews if need

01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:06.840
 be.

01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:10.600
 So we take every development series that is built within our community.

01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:15.200
 We work very diligently to try and ensure that there are no increased impacts on adjoining

01:33:15.200 --> 01:33:18.920
 properties as a result of properties being developed.

01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:25.640
 In many instances, throughout the course of my career and working with civil engineers,

01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:32.600
 that when properties are developed, many times it results in improved drainage conditions.

01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:38.200
 Because right now the property is in its native state, there are no improvements on the property

01:33:38.200 --> 01:33:43.480
 to slow down any water that's coming off of it in its current state.

01:33:43.480 --> 01:33:50.000
 But when properties are developed, then there are mechanisms and designs put in place to

01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:56.320
 slow the water down, and to be able to collect water if need be before it's discharged in

01:33:56.320 --> 01:33:59.120
 any downstream situations or on adjoining properties.

01:33:59.120 --> 01:34:04.400
 So again, we're also making sure that we're compliant with state statute, that we're not

01:34:04.400 --> 01:34:10.280
 allowing for any increased runoff that is higher than would have been the pre-developed

01:34:10.280 --> 01:34:11.280
 conditions.

01:34:11.280 --> 01:34:17.040
 Chair Ellis is correct, right now it's a zoning decision to determine the appropriateness

01:34:17.040 --> 01:34:22.560
 of the land use, just like with any requests that they have come before them.

01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:27.800
 The following steps, should zoning get approved, then is the applicant moving forward with

01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.840
 submitting zoning compliance plans, and then ultimately submitting their civil engineering

01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:34.300
 plans associated with that.

01:34:34.300 --> 01:34:38.600
 We also have some challenges associated with state law, in that we cannot require certain

01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:43.280
 development applications or certain studies to be submitted, even with the initial plat

01:34:43.280 --> 01:34:48.920
 that we have to follow, despite sometimes wanting to have those answers earlier on in

01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:50.800
 that approval sequence.

01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:56.440
 So I don't know if that gives you any level of assurance, but we appreciate you bringing

01:34:56.440 --> 01:34:58.560
 this concern to our attention.

01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:00.880
 Thank you.

01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:01.880
 Commissioner Pruitt, you are?

01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:02.880
 Thank you, Chair.

01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:08.240
 Yeah, just a couple process procedure questions, so that everybody in the room understands

01:35:08.240 --> 01:35:13.500
 going forward what could happen if the site develops.

01:35:13.500 --> 01:35:21.080
 I think I heard from Tina that the drainage assessment would be done at the time of the

01:35:21.080 --> 01:35:24.000
 civil engineering plans, is that correct?

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.360
 Yeah, we're requiring the ESA field assessment to be done with the zoning compliance plan,

01:35:29.360 --> 01:35:33.440
 so if there are downstream calculations needed for that, that will be done at that time,

01:35:33.440 --> 01:35:39.840
 but I believe the broader answers will be there at civil engineering plans.

01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:45.760
 Okay, and I'm assuming the reason for that is that those civil engineering plans and

01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:57.400
 the ESA assessment is what defines where new impervious area is, and that sort of thing,

01:35:57.400 --> 01:35:58.400
 is that correct?

01:35:58.400 --> 01:35:59.400
 Correct.

01:35:59.400 --> 01:36:05.880
 At what time once you receive that civil engineering plan application, does the zoning on the property

01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.840
 have any bearing on the drainage assessment and what's done for the drainage, or is it

01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.560
 purely from a here's what we're building here perspective?

01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:13.560
 Good question.

01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:19.520
 The zoning does not, like Tina was saying, any development that comes in, whether it

01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.320
 stays in its current zoning or it moves to a light industrial, they will have to adhere

01:36:23.320 --> 01:36:27.760
 to those same state requirements as it relates to drainage.

01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:29.100
 Okay, thank you.

01:36:29.100 --> 01:36:36.000
 And lastly, going back to previous question of trees and everything, there's some terminology

01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:44.200
 we use that may not be common language, so can you describe the process between the tree

01:36:44.200 --> 01:36:52.000
 assessment to identifying the root ... Critical.

01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:59.960
 Zoning zone that I can't remember the term for right now, just describe the general flow

01:36:59.960 --> 01:37:04.680
 of how those trees are protected during the permitting process, if you would.

01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:05.680
 Gotcha.

01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:09.320
 Yeah, so we'll require a tree preservation plan submitted with that zoning compliance

01:37:09.320 --> 01:37:18.080
 plan, and in that we require that the applicants go out and license, or they hire a licensed

01:37:18.080 --> 01:37:26.640
 arborist or landscape architect, go out, survey the trees that are on site, and that's taking

01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:32.400
 down the type of tree, the inches of the tree trunk, and the condition that the tree is

01:37:32.400 --> 01:37:34.840
 in, so healthy.

01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:39.720
 And then at that point, what we would do if the applicant is proposing a masonry wall,

01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:44.600
 we would ensure that it is located beyond what is labeled as healthy in the 50 feet

01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:46.240
 buffer.

01:37:46.240 --> 01:37:51.240
 And then also, that 50 feet buffer, even if they are not marked as healthy necessarily,

01:37:51.240 --> 01:37:56.060
 because that 50 foot buffer is their landscape buffer, the tree canopy would most likely

01:37:56.060 --> 01:38:00.400
 still remain because they'd have to ... They get points for preserving trees, but it'd

01:38:00.400 --> 01:38:04.040
 have to be landscape, basically.

01:38:04.040 --> 01:38:05.040
 Thank you.

01:38:05.040 --> 01:38:07.880
 Thank you, Mio, appreciate it.

01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:16.680
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak?

01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:20.760
 Yep, come on down.

01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:21.760
 Glenn Mark Graff, 1800 Lakeview.

01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:22.760
 That video was my backyard.

01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:27.320
 Just want to give you one thing to think about.

01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:34.040
 I realize everybody does their best to plan and engineer all these things, but 20 years

01:38:34.040 --> 01:38:41.320
 ago, somebody got approval to rezone this for development, and this is the results of

01:38:41.320 --> 01:38:43.320
 their drainage planning.

01:38:43.320 --> 01:38:47.720
 So it doesn't always work, does it?

01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:53.560
 That's all I got to say.

01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:54.560
 Okay.

01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:58.760
 Thank you, appreciate it.

01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:00.680
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this?

01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.680
 Okay.

01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:07.320
 I'm going to go ahead and open the floor for discussion or motion.

01:39:07.320 --> 01:39:10.160
 Commissioner Cole?

01:39:10.160 --> 01:39:14.960
 I'll make a motion to approve.

01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:15.960
 Okay.

01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:16.960
 Commissioner Pruitt?

01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:20.920
 Yeah, I'll second.

01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:27.360
 I'm just sensitive to the concerns over drainage and that sort of thing, sensitive to the traffic

01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:28.480
 concerns.

01:39:28.480 --> 01:39:34.520
 In my opinion, the zoning here doesn't really change how much the drainage gets improved

01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:37.380
 or unimproved.

01:39:37.380 --> 01:39:43.680
 I think honestly what has caused it to be increased drainage runoff is that we've expanded

01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:47.680
 380 from two lanes to it's about to be 12.

01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:53.660
 So that's a lot more impervious surface.

01:39:53.660 --> 01:39:58.820
 The other thing is as we look at truck traffic and that sort of thing, certainly I think

01:39:58.820 --> 01:40:04.760
 we need to consider that at the same time as access to 380 off of Lakeview Boulevard

01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:06.240
 changes.

01:40:06.240 --> 01:40:13.440
 I think that has a much greater potential to change the traffic on Black Road than what

01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:14.440
 this property does.

01:40:14.440 --> 01:40:16.000
 So those are my thoughts.

01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:17.000
 Thank you.

01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:18.000
 Thank you.

01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:19.000
 Commissioner Billy Rail?

01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000
 Thank you, Chair.

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.320
 I want to thank the applicant and their team for doing the work to make sure they hear

01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:27.080
 the concerns from the community.

01:40:27.080 --> 01:40:32.760
 However, with that being said, due to environmental traffic and drainage concerns, I'll be voting

01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:33.760
 no.

01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:34.760
 Thank you.

01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:35.760
 Thanks.

01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:36.760
 Any other discussion?

01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:40.660
 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval.

01:40:40.660 --> 01:40:48.680
 I'll just thank everybody for being involved in this, thanking Amy and her team for engaging.

01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:56.520
 I think it's been difficult, but there have been compromises.

01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:03.800
 There's been a lot of really good discussion in research for this.

01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:08.880
 Before us is a zoning case, as Commissioner Pruitt pointed out, the area where this is

01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:09.880
 located.

01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:16.080
 We have to think about what makes sense for development of this.

01:41:16.080 --> 01:41:21.160
 We may not have all of the answers for current problems in the area, which aren't necessarily

01:41:21.160 --> 01:41:29.320
 related to this particular piece of land or what's before us.

01:41:29.320 --> 01:41:36.800
 Hopefully, if this land, if this gets approved, if this moves forward through city council,

01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:43.400
 if down the road this site does develop, hopefully it does make improvements as often does, as

01:41:43.400 --> 01:41:49.400
 Tina mentioned with drainage in the area.

01:41:49.400 --> 01:41:54.760
 I guess with that, I'll call for any more discussion.

01:41:54.760 --> 01:42:07.320
 If not, let's go ahead and vote.

01:42:07.320 --> 01:42:12.280
 That motion will carry for one, and we'll move on next to city council.

01:42:12.280 --> 01:42:15.720
 What is the date on that, please?

01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:17.880
 Yes.

01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:22.200
 This is scheduled for the July 16th city council date.

01:42:22.200 --> 01:42:23.200
 July 16th?

01:42:23.200 --> 01:42:24.800
 If that's a Tuesday, I believe that is correct.

01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:25.800
 Okay.

01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:26.800
 Yes.

01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:27.800
 July 16th.

01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:28.800
 Okay.

01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:29.800
 Thank you very much.

01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:30.800
 Okay.

01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:32.840
 That will move us to our public hearings for this evening.

01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:36.960
 That is 5AZ240008.

01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:45.160
 I will invite Erin up for presentation and open the public hearing.

01:42:45.160 --> 01:42:54.680
 Erin Stanley, assistant planner.

01:42:54.680 --> 01:43:00.960
 This is Z24-0008 Crow Billingsley Denton rezoning.

01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:08.080
 This is a request to rezone approximately 7.8 acres located south of US 380 and west

01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:15.320
 of North Mosh Branch Road from rural residential to light industrial.

01:43:15.320 --> 01:43:19.880
 The property is currently undeveloped and surrounded primarily by undeveloped property

01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:21.560
 and gas wells.

01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:27.320
 There is a small portion, I'll note, in the eastern section of the property that is unassessed

01:43:27.320 --> 01:43:35.160
 ESA right now and once it's developed, they would have to comply with all ESA regulations.

01:43:35.160 --> 01:43:39.880
 This request is consistent with the future land use map designating the area as light

01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:42.640
 industrial and industrial commerce.

01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:49.800
 The light industrial designation is primarily for light industrial land uses such as manufacturing,

01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:54.640
 assembling and warehousing and its associated supporting uses.

01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:59.360
 The industrial commerce designation is for both light industrial and heavy industrial

01:43:59.360 --> 01:44:00.440
 uses.

01:44:00.440 --> 01:44:05.200
 This is also consistent with the intent of the LI zoning district which would serve a

01:44:05.200 --> 01:44:13.320
 variety of light industrial and employment uses and supporting commercial uses and activities.

01:44:13.320 --> 01:44:18.920
 This request is consistent with the Denton Development Code criteria for approval as

01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:23.800
 well as the zoning specific criteria for approval.

01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:30.240
 It is also consistent with the future land use map and 2040 comprehensive plan and the

01:44:30.240 --> 01:44:36.000
 proposal would be consistent with the light industrial zoning district purpose and the

01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:41.240
 zoning is not expected to generate any significant adverse environmental infrastructure or fiscal

01:44:41.240 --> 01:44:44.960
 impacts.

01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:46.480
 Notifications were sent out.

01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:53.040
 They were posted online and in the newspaper and signs were posted on the property or along

01:44:53.040 --> 01:45:00.480
 US 380 just north of the subject property on June 7th and notices were mailed within

01:45:00.480 --> 01:45:09.200
 200 feet to the surrounding property owners and 500 feet to residents.

01:45:09.200 --> 01:45:15.920
 We received responses in favor from the surrounding property totaling 76% in favor and the applicant

01:45:15.920 --> 01:45:20.680
 did make attempts to contact the adjacent property owners immediately surrounding the

01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:26.680
 property with no success and he is here to speak to that if you have any questions.

01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:31.120
 With that staff is recommending approval of the zoning change as it meets all of our criteria

01:45:31.120 --> 01:45:33.540
 and I will stand for any questions.

01:45:33.540 --> 01:45:34.540
 Thank you Erin.

01:45:34.540 --> 01:45:36.560
 Any questions for Erin?

01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:37.560
 No?

01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:38.560
 Okay.

01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:39.560
 Thank you.

01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:40.560
 This is a public hearing.

01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:43.760
 I don't have any cards in front of me for this item but is there anyone wishing to speak

01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:45.560
 on this item?

01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:46.560
 Okay.

01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:55.240
 I will go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for motion or discussion.

01:45:55.240 --> 01:46:01.080
 Well, I will go ahead and make a motion for approval.

01:46:01.080 --> 01:46:03.200
 I'll Commissioner approve it?

01:46:03.200 --> 01:46:04.200
 Second.

01:46:04.200 --> 01:46:05.200
 Okay.

01:46:05.200 --> 01:46:06.200
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

01:46:06.200 --> 01:46:07.200
 Any discussion?

01:46:07.200 --> 01:46:08.200
 Okay.

01:46:08.200 --> 01:46:20.880
 Let's go ahead and vote please.

01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:23.360
 That motion carries 5-0.

01:46:23.360 --> 01:46:30.600
 That will bring us to our next public hearing item for this evening, it's 5B, DCA 240004.

01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:33.440
 Haley is here for presentation and I will open the public hearing.

01:46:33.440 --> 01:46:36.440
 Good evening Chair, members of the commission.

01:46:36.440 --> 01:46:38.720
 This is Gershki, Assistant Planning Director.

01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:43.960
 The item before you is Code Amendment DCA 24-4 for the Razor Ranch Overlay District

01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:47.300
 Ordinance Consolidation.

01:46:47.300 --> 01:46:51.200
 The request before you this evening is an amendment to the Denton Development Code to

01:46:51.200 --> 01:46:56.240
 provide for the uses and development standards of Appendix A, which is a placeholder that's

01:46:56.240 --> 01:47:00.600
 been in the code since 2019 for the Razor Ranch Overlay District.

01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:05.040
 Just a brief history, the district does encompass approximately 406 acres of land, you can see

01:47:05.040 --> 01:47:08.040
 it outlined in the two maps on your screen.

01:47:08.040 --> 01:47:13.880
 Covers land area north and south of Highway 380 between I-35 and Bonnie Bray.

01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:19.800
 The district as it is in its current state is based on the 2002 Denton Development Code,

01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:24.800
 makes references all throughout to various base zoning districts and standards within

01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:27.640
 the older version of our development code.

01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:31.120
 There are provisions for architecture, landscaping and signage contained within the district

01:47:31.120 --> 01:47:36.000
 as well as use provisions to ensure that it is a compatible mixed use development across

01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.080
 the 400 acre property.

01:47:38.080 --> 01:47:42.540
 As it is today, the land area is roughly 85 to 90% developed, but there are some remaining

01:47:42.540 --> 01:47:45.960
 parcels that could benefit from this consolidation.

01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:50.880
 Again, some brief history that we covered in work session, so I'll just run through

01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:52.040
 this quickly.

01:47:52.040 --> 01:47:54.360
 The Razor Ranch Overlay District did begin in the early 2000s.

01:47:54.360 --> 01:47:59.400
 It was first a set of deed restrictions that the property owners created, a version of

01:47:59.400 --> 01:48:04.620
 those were then adopted by the city as a zoning ordinance in 2007.

01:48:04.620 --> 01:48:09.360
 The text of that code was housed, the regulatory text rather was housed within the 2002 code

01:48:09.360 --> 01:48:14.200
 itself, but there were multiple exhibits referenced throughout, exhibits A through H that covered

01:48:14.200 --> 01:48:18.520
 the architecture, landscaping, signage and various other standards that were actually

01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:23.360
 never housed within the code, so it was a very difficult ordinance for anyone to follow

01:48:23.360 --> 01:48:27.040
 if they were trying to inquire about developing property in Razor Ranch because they could

01:48:27.040 --> 01:48:31.880
 not locate the standards without contacting staff and being sent a list of ordinances.

01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:37.520
 There have been over 20 ordinances adopted for Razor Ranch since it was first created.

01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:41.840
 Those often just built upon each other, kind of band-aid fashion, never fully repealing

01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:46.080
 and replacing one another, just kind of cobbling things together and referring back to the

01:48:46.080 --> 01:48:50.560
 old ordinances as we went along so that many of those are still required to fully interpret

01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:55.200
 the district today, and many of those ordinances are only for certain sub-areas or even lots

01:48:55.200 --> 01:48:57.920
 within the development.

01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:02.600
 So in 2019 we anticipated this challenge, we left a placeholder in the code to someday

01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:07.760
 come back and adopt all of Razor Ranch into the 2019 Denton Development Code and bring

01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:10.980
 it up to our current standards as best we could while still honoring all of those use

01:49:10.980 --> 01:49:14.520
 permissions and development regulations that had been created over time.

01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:20.720
 So you can see on the screen there those placeholders if you were to look in the code today.

01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:23.880
 So as I've mentioned, the intent of this is to adopt those regulations so that moving

01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:29.220
 forward we have one consolidated ordinance rather than 20 in place for Razor Ranch.

01:49:29.220 --> 01:49:34.520
 We have brought forward portions of the 2002 code that are relied upon by the Razor Ranch

01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:35.520
 district.

01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:39.520
 So for example, if there's a land use definition that slightly differed between the 02 code

01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:43.880
 in 2019, we brought forward that old definition to ensure that nothing was lost for the district

01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:46.600
 and the uses that are there today.

01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:51.440
 And then everywhere possible we've clarified what from the 2019 DDC would apply.

01:49:51.440 --> 01:49:56.200
 So if you read through the text today you'd see anything not explicitly written in Appendix

01:49:56.200 --> 01:50:01.960
 A will defer to the standards of the 2019 DDC moving forward.

01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:07.480
 So just running through some of the changes that are in your backup, the majority of the

01:50:07.480 --> 01:50:10.560
 regulations, as I've mentioned, are not changing for anyone in Razor Ranch.

01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:15.720
 Our goal was not to change any use permissions or any development standards that have been

01:50:15.720 --> 01:50:20.460
 working effectively in place in Razor Ranch for almost 20 years.

01:50:20.460 --> 01:50:21.920
 It's mostly reformatting.

01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.680
 If you look through it you'll see we've formatted it very similarly to the rest of the code.

01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:30.080
 So for example, rather than having each sub-district having a list of permitted uses, we now have

01:50:30.080 --> 01:50:33.200
 one permitted use table that mirrors what we have in the rest of the code.

01:50:33.200 --> 01:50:39.120
 Some of the sub-areas were renamed because they have acronyms attached to them that are

01:50:39.120 --> 01:50:42.200
 never defined within the overlay district itself.

01:50:42.200 --> 01:50:45.640
 So the South RR1 district will become the town center because that's what everyone knows

01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:46.640
 it as.

01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:51.080
 In the South RR2 we're renaming the South Commercial District, and that's primarily to avoid confusion

01:50:51.080 --> 01:50:55.040
 because currently there's RR1 and RR2, both North and South of 380.

01:50:55.040 --> 01:50:56.800
 So it gets a little confusing.

01:50:56.800 --> 01:51:00.360
 So we've renamed all of those for clarity to help identify where they are and what their

01:51:00.360 --> 01:51:02.000
 intent is.

01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:03.560
 With that, all of the maps have been updated.

01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:08.000
 So you can see on the screen the map on the top is the new, cleaner version of the zoning

01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:09.000
 map for Razor Ranch.

01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.280
 The one on the bottom of your screen is the older one that just had a lot of extraneous

01:51:13.280 --> 01:51:16.680
 information that wasn't necessary for the enforcement of the ordinance.

01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:21.080
 So we're trying to clean all those things up moving forward.

01:51:21.080 --> 01:51:25.200
 One change that has come about as a result of state legislation is that building materials

01:51:25.200 --> 01:51:30.160
 that were previously able to be strictly enforced within Razor Ranch, we've now just termed

01:51:30.160 --> 01:51:31.160
 as preferences.

01:51:31.160 --> 01:51:34.240
 So it will list throughout the architectural standards these are the preferred materials

01:51:34.240 --> 01:51:38.880
 for Razor Ranch to help encourage that consistency moving forward, but since we can no longer

01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:43.520
 regulate that, we struck the strict language that was previously there.

01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.200
 And then for things that have been completed, such as infrastructure that was called out

01:51:46.200 --> 01:51:49.520
 in there, we've just noted that that work has been completed moving forward so that

01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:53.640
 it's no longer listed as something that needs to be done.

01:51:53.640 --> 01:51:57.640
 As I mentioned in work session, there is one substantive change to the content of the district

01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:01.960
 and that is that the owners of the South Campus have requested an increase in the allowed

01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:03.660
 multifamily units.

01:52:03.660 --> 01:52:07.360
 So rather than adopting this and then promptly amending it, we agree to staff, yes, we think

01:52:07.360 --> 01:52:11.400
 this is a logical request, we'll roll this in to this effort moving forward.

01:52:11.400 --> 01:52:17.120
 So that change would be from a total of 2,000 multifamily units to 2,250.

01:52:17.120 --> 01:52:22.920
 When the district was first adopted, they were allocated 1,750 units on the South Campus.

01:52:22.920 --> 01:52:27.080
 Over time, as it has developed, there's been identified a need for more density on that

01:52:27.080 --> 01:52:32.640
 campus to truly support the commercial development with an ample number of residents in the area.

01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:37.280
 So where it stands today, we've made one increase back in 2021, they're asking for

01:52:37.280 --> 01:52:39.160
 a second increase.

01:52:39.160 --> 01:52:43.320
 In reality, I don't anticipate that with the available lots, they'll use all of those units,

01:52:43.320 --> 01:52:47.960
 but we wanted to allow them some flexibility moving forward in case plans change, they're

01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:54.120
 able to fit more units on some of the remaining parcels than what they anticipate.

01:52:54.120 --> 01:52:55.680
 Staff is recommending approval of this.

01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:59.480
 I know I didn't go into a whole lot of detail on a lot of this, but I think you all are

01:52:59.480 --> 01:53:03.480
 relatively familiar with Razor Ranch, but I do have the standards handy if we need to

01:53:03.480 --> 01:53:06.000
 look at anything more in more detail.

01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:07.440
 Great.

01:53:07.440 --> 01:53:08.440
 Thank you, Haley.

01:53:08.440 --> 01:53:10.680
 Any questions at the moment?

01:53:10.680 --> 01:53:12.080
 Okay.

01:53:12.080 --> 01:53:13.360
 Thank you.

01:53:13.360 --> 01:53:14.520
 This is a public hearing.

01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:18.600
 I don't have any cards in front of me, but is there anyone wishing to speak on this item?

01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:19.600
 Okay.

01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:26.440
 With that, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for motion or discussion.

01:53:26.440 --> 01:53:27.440
 Commissioner Villarreal.

01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:30.800
 Move approval of the recommendation of the city council.

01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:31.800
 Commissioner Cole.

01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:32.800
 Second.

01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:33.800
 Okay.

01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:34.800
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:35.800
 Any discussion?

01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:36.800
 Okay.

01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:37.800
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:38.800
 I'll just say I'm so glad to see this.

01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:44.880
 It has been a long time coming, and this is going to make it just so much prettier in

01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:45.880
 the development code.

01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:46.880
 Oh, my gosh.

01:53:46.880 --> 01:53:47.880
 It's -- yeah.

01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:48.880
 Well done.

01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:51.000
 I know you had to help, I think, with some consultants on this, but, yeah.

01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:55.680
 So thank them, too, because, yeah, it's good, yeah.

01:53:55.680 --> 01:53:56.880
 Very happy to see it.

01:53:56.880 --> 01:53:57.880
 Okay.

01:53:57.880 --> 01:53:59.800
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:00.800
 Any discussion?

01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:01.800
 Okay.

01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:10.600
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:12.320
 That motion carries 5-0.

01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:18.640
 That'll take us to our planning and zoning matrix, and Tina, you have the floor.

01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:22.560
 Thank you.

01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:32.680
 I can assure you probably nobody is more happy than the staff is on that razor-range consolidation,

01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:33.680
 especially Mia.

01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:37.720
 So with respect to the matrix, there were no changes made to that, so -- and nothing

01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:42.920
 requested from the previous planning and zoning commission meeting.

01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:47.520
 Items that went to council since your last meeting, if you recall, the vet clinic that

01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:53.200
 was at Teasley in Pennsylvania, zoning case study had come forth -- or, excuse me, a specific

01:54:53.200 --> 01:54:54.200
 use permit.

01:54:54.200 --> 01:54:59.200
 So that was approved by city council, and then also there was a plan development amendment.

01:54:59.200 --> 01:55:04.520
 Mia worked on this for a gas station convenience store, and I think Best Barbecue, if members

01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:09.360
 searched me correctly, from the applicant at Vintage and 35W.

01:55:09.360 --> 01:55:13.800
 That PD amendment for the development plan, that was also approved by city council.

01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:18.560
 And then lastly, we also had the mobility plan amendment related to the Windsor extension,

01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:23.800
 and that was also approved by council.

01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:27.760
 Given our great conversation that we had this evening with respect to the southeast area

01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:32.280
 plan, we are moving forward with the adoption on that, and I know Mia and Julie spoke to

01:55:32.280 --> 01:55:33.480
 those dates.

01:55:33.480 --> 01:55:38.880
 For your special called meeting on the 17th, our plan is to have a 5 o'clock start.

01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.840
 However, if we do need to have an earlier start, we will definitely let you know.

01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:47.800
 We're still pulling together materials related to that, and so -- but we'll try to make -- we'll

01:55:47.800 --> 01:55:51.720
 try to make sure we respect that 5 o'clock start time in case there needs to be any discussion

01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:53.960
 in the work session.

01:55:53.960 --> 01:56:00.320
 Don't forget, also, we still have your regular called meeting on the 24th as well, so make

01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:02.520
 sure you keep that one on your calendar.

01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:08.720
 Otherwise, that -- oh, if I could, back to that PD amendment.

01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:12.240
 Since there was some discussion regarding the access, following the Planning and Zoning

01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:16.800
 Commission's recommendation for approval on that particular project, the applicant requested

01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:20.480
 to have a little more relief, really, associated with one of the conditions that we had with

01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:25.080
 respect to the access, the emergency access connection.

01:56:25.080 --> 01:56:30.080
 He still wanted to have an opportunity to potentially have further discussion with TxDOT,

01:56:30.080 --> 01:56:36.280
 possibly modifying the timing of when a full directional access could occur for that property.

01:56:36.280 --> 01:56:40.800
 Should TxDOT allow for it prior to the frontage roads being constructed?

01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:43.800
 And so we were in agreement with it, so we did modify that condition.

01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:48.540
 We felt that it did not affect the commission's recommendation, but if you were following

01:56:48.540 --> 01:56:53.480
 that case and you happened to notice, hey, that condition was worded slightly different,

01:56:53.480 --> 01:56:54.480
 there's a reason why.

01:56:54.480 --> 01:57:01.760
 So at the end of the day, it's -- whatever connections happen to any future frontage roads

01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:06.480
 or the existing ramp that's there today all require TxDOT approval.

01:57:06.480 --> 01:57:10.080
 Nothing moves forward with connections to their roadways without having their approval.

01:57:10.080 --> 01:57:13.220
 So that part remains unchanged.

01:57:13.220 --> 01:57:17.440
 It helps give some flexibility associated with timing.

01:57:17.440 --> 01:57:18.960
 And that concludes my report.

01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:19.960
 >> Okay.

01:57:19.960 --> 01:57:20.960
 Thank you.

01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:23.840
 Is there anything to add to the matrix?

01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:25.160
 Okay.

01:57:25.160 --> 01:57:26.880
 Any concluding items?

01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:27.880
 Okay.

01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:32.120
 With that, I'll go ahead and adjourn us at 7.32 p.m.

01:57:32.120 --> 01:57:33.000
 Thank you very much, everyone.