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 Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for

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 Wednesday, June 26, 2024.

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 This is our work session and with the quorum present, I will call us to order at 5.04 p.m.

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 Let the record show that Commissioners Thaggard and Padrone are absent at this time.

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 First item on our work session is the citizen comment for consent agenda items.

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 I don't see anyone here for that.

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 So we will move on to our clarification of agenda items for tonight's meeting.

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 First being the minutes for June 12.

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 Any questions, comments?

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 Next, we have one item on consent agenda.

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 Is there any questions there?

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 I thank you, Barnes, for being available.

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 Next move on to our items for individual consideration we've had.

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 We had quite a few emails that some of them came pretty late, so we'll go through these.

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 First one is 4AFP24002 format is here for presentation of that item.

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 Good evening.

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 No, no, it's afternoon.

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 All right.

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 Here we go.

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 This is not the right one.

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 Here we go.

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 All right.

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 Good afternoon.

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 Matt Bodine, assistant planner, presenting this plaque on behalf of Sean Jacobson.

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 So this is a final plaque or here to consider a quest of a final plaque of Sage Creek.

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 No, this is not the right one.

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 Never mind.

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 Yes, this is not Sean's one though.

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 Here we go.

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 Sage Creek.

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 Here we go.

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 Now we're ready.

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 All right.

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 So this is a request of the final plot of Sage Creek townhomes in approximately 24 acre

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 site located at the intersection of Audreau Lane and Lattimore Street.

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 This applies to establish 163 residential townhome lots, nine common area lots and the necessary

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 easements and right away.

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 Staff is recommending denial of this plot as is because it does not meet their criteria

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 for approval.

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 We have no objection to the requested extension to a date of July 24th and this would be the

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 first extension request.

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 Thank you, Matt.

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 Thank you very much.

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 The next several items B through F, we do have a commissioner wanting to recuse on those

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 items, but if we do that, we will lose the quorum.

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 So we are going to move right on through and go on to 4G, FP240021.

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 Matt is back up for that one.

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 This is one that was emailed to us very early in the week.

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 We had a change on that, so Matt will walk us through that.

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 Here we go.

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 Yeah, so this is a final plot of lots 1 and 2, block A, force crossing, phase two addition.

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 Is approximately 20 acre track, generally located on the west side of North Mayhill

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 Road, approximately 1,000 feet north of North McKinney Street.

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 Is to create two lots, one of them is a multifamily development, which was approved, which has

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 an approved specific use permit that was approved by City Council on February 7th.

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 And then also part of this plot is dedicating part of a new Collector Street Hummingbird

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 Lane.

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 At the time the report came out on Friday, this plot was seeking an extension, but over

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 the weekend they were able to meet the last few criterias, clear the last few comments,

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 and so an updated plot was sent on Monday.

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 And so they now meet the criteria for approval and staff is recommending approval.

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 Oh, Matt, you're up for the next one, 24HFP240023.

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 It's your show tonight.

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 So this is a final plot of lot 1, block A, Riviera addition.

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 That's about a 15 acre track on the north side of Fishtrap Road.

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 On the east side of the town is to create a lot of record from a previously unplotted

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 tract, the property owner had been using a private water well for water services but

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 that water well has failed and so they have recently submitted for civil engineering plans

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 to access city water and as part of that they need to final plot and hence we are here.

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 At this time it does not meet the criteria for approval, however, staff has no objection

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 to the requested extension to July 24th and this would be their first extension.

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 Next on our items for individual consideration is for IPD240005.

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 That's Mia's item.

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 This was our public hearing item from last meeting that we tabled till today.

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 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner.

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 This item, like you said, is the PD overlay with a light industrial based zoning district

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 that was continued at the last meeting.

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 Just a reminder, it's located north of Black Road, it includes just under 53 acres and

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 the request is again for an overlay PD with a light industrial based zoning and some additional

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 conditions that would allow for some protections for the adjacent residential areas.

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 Some of the things that we added since that last meeting to the PD development regulations

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 motel, parking lot as the principal use and then we've also added the building height

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 restriction of 55 feet.

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 ability for an alternative ESA compliance review.

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 an alternative ESA could potentially lead to better drainage conditions for the residents

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 in that area so they wouldn't want to remove that flexibility at this stage.

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 So we're back with that with the recommendation of approval and I will happily take any questions

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 residents would like to see that there but their main priority or their main focus was

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 the preservation of the existing tree canopy and so what we tried to add in these PD regulations

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 is that, like I said, in areas where it can go, it should go but we encourage the preservation

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 of the tree canopy within that 50 foot buffer and actually we've added the requirement to

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 require all healthy trees be preserved within that 50 foot buffer.

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 I know we went back and forth about the wall being required, not required and so now it

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 says if provided so giving the flexibility that if it's going to go in, it should have

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 Good evening, Chair, members of commission, Erin Stanley, Assistant Planner.

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 This is Z24-0008, Crowe Billingsley of Denton Rezoning.

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 So this is going to be a rezoning on approximately 7.8 acres, generally south of US 380 and west

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 of Mosh Branch Road, rezoning from rural residential to light industrial zoning district and the

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 property was annexed in 2010.

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 Currently it is undeveloped and surrounded primarily by other undeveloped property and

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 gas wells and staff is recommending approval tonight.

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 I'll have a more detailed presentation in the main session but I'll happily answer any

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 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission.

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 Haley Zagorski, Assistant Planning Director.

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 If you'll recall in April we had a work session regarding razor ranch and kind of the history

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 that's led us to where we are today of needing to adopt appendix A into the DDC formally.

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 So that's what's before you this evening is that consolidation of those 20 plus razor

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 ranch ordinances that have been developed since approximately 2007.

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 This placeholder has been in the code since we adopted it in 2019.

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 It's just taken us some time to get to the point where we have all of those in a format

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 that we could bring before you all.

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 There is one change that I would consider substantive from what has been in the razor

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 ranch overlay for all this time and that is that they are asking for an additional 250

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 multifamily units to be allowed on the south campus.

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 If you recall in 2021 we had a similar request where they were getting close to the threshold

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 that had been set at seven, I believe it was 1,750 units and so we upped that at that time

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 in that and so we've baked in a little bit of flexibility there to give them the ability

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 to finish out those projects hopefully if you all in council are to approve of that

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 But staff is recommending approval of this and I'm happy to go over any additional details

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 It's a big undertaking, I'm glad it's been done finally.

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 Thank you, appreciate it.

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 Now that Commissioner Perderone has joined us I'm going to go ahead and backtrack.

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 Good evening, Julie Wyatt.

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 Ah here we are, sorry about that.

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 This is a final plat for unit 40 of Robeson Ranch, it's a single family residential development.

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 It's consistent with the plan development that was detailed planned out in 2011.

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 They do have to work through their civil plan still and some items that they needed to correct

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 So staff is recommending denial, however we have no objection to the extension to July

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 Commissioner O'Rourke.

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 Okay and the next items which are 4C through F, Erin is going to present those.

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 So this is Hunter Ranch Phase 1A.

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 This is a final plat request and we are recommending approval.

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 In your backup we originally did say that this was going to be an extension request.

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 They've since satisfied all the outstanding comments in their CEP so they can move forward

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 with approval for the final plat.

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 There also was a change since it got sent out with the name.

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 LLC and all the plots have been updated to reflect that.

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 comments now or to two notes and so that is reflected on all of these plots as well.

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 So this is the first plat and I can move on to the second if there's any questions.

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 So this one, all the same comments apply to this.

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 This would just be Phase 1B of the Hunter Ranch development and we are also recommending

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 I'm sorry, okay, and then this is Phase 1C also recommending approval.

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 Going through that.

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 I think, yep, that takes us through our agenda.

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 We will get Commissioner Cole back in here and we've got two work session reports.

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 I'm not exactly sure who's presenting that, Mia?

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 Okay, good evening, Chair, members of the commission, again, Mia Hines, Senior Planner

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 It's been a long time coming to get to this point and we're very excited about where we

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 We got their feedback and their input and we'll talk through some of that when we go

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 And then within this presentation, we're going to hit some highlights for you guys and get

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 So again, just reminding you guys where we're talking about, this is the Southeast Denton

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 on the east side of Woodrow and then the south side of Shady Oaks and Teasley as well, where

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 we consider the land uses in this area as they might potentially impact the core southeastern

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 avenues that we've taken up our listening sessions, where we've gone out to the community,

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 we've held meetings where they were to come in to speak with us, to go through, be very

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 candid, have open, honest conversations about what they dislike and dislike about their

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 area, what they would like to see for their areas, where the city has fallen short in

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 some instances, a very open and honest conversation that we had with them during the listening

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 the crowd that generally does not show up at our events.

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 you like to see as far as the development, what do you think that the architectural style

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 And the key things that we learned from these events were that the area would like to see

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 improved communication between the city and the neighborhood.

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 They want to see a standard for housing, ensuring the long-term affordability, limiting displacement.

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 lessons of Quaker Town so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

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 And then also in the pattern of perceived neglect and begin to heal that area as a result

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 or following the historic trauma that they've received.

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 And so we built on those key points, we built some desired outcomes, what we surmise.

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 That includes a fair share of political and economic and social investment, the celebration

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 of the black cultural roots within this area, wanting to obtain a variety of housing types

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 and pricing options for the area to diversify the housing options for this area, creating

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 a safe and accessible connected network.

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 And then also improvements to public amenities, their parks, Carl Young, Fred Moore are very

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 cherished assets within their areas and they would like to see some improvements to those.

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 With that we pulled in some visions and goals, building trust, honoring the culture and heritage,

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 investing in economic prosperity, strengthening those neighborhoods and housing affordability,

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 elevating the quality of public infrastructure and then also creating again a safe and connected

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 multimodal travel system.

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 With that we came up with our recommended or from that we came up with our recommended

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 strategies which we have brought to this body to talk through some of those.

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 So after taking on the existing conditions, giving us the desired outcomes, community

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 vision and goals, taking the recommended strategies, now we are at those proposed implementation

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 and action steps and now we are trying to get your feedback on the things that we are

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 hoping to implement, staff is hoping to do, where we're hoping to partner with other

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 organizations and actually make these things happen, make these things that the community

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 So with that I will just briefly go over the basically table of continent for our action

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 matrix that we have.

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 This table over here identifies city of Denton partners to your left there, identifies city

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 of Denton partners and agencies.

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 Keep in mind those acronyms because you'll see those throughout the matrix.

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 term time frames where short term is hoping to have done in one to two years, mid term

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 is hoping to have done in three to five and then long term is six to ten.

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 And with that I will hand it over to Julie to get us going.

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 >> All right, so there's 53 action steps, so we won't go over every single one line-by-line.

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 We did do that with our steering committee last week, it took a lot of time but it was

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 a really important conversation that we had with the group to get their feedback, to validate

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 the findings and to make sure that we, that this plan is reflective of the community's

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 Juneteenth Festival last weekend, so we've gotten community feedback as well as steering

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 committee feedback on these action items.

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 sure that we got this information to the community as well.

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 So I wanted to just set the table a little bit, these action steps are intended for us

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 to achieve those strategies and ultimately the goal and vision of Southeast Denton.

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 So these are going to be really those work-a-day tasks that staff is going to be doing, taking

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 the lead on, but also partnering with those other agencies.

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 So they really are intended to reflect back to those strategies.

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 to the Planning and Zoning Commission.

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 And how we're going to do it is talk about the goals, so the first ones we're going to

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 To set the table a little bit for you, we heard from the community about the importance

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 of the culture of Southeast Denton.

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 This has been a prominent home to Denton's black American residents for decades, and

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 the churches and homes and businesses and streets and all of that created this fabric

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 of a community that is so important to the residents, however, the demographics have

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 of black, Hispanic, and then white.

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 history of Southeast Denton, and that all future residents understand the importance

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 of Southeast Denton.

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 of them to you, but I just want to talk about a summary, to honor that heritage and culture.

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 maybe notable cultural areas, to educate the residents and property owners of the value

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 of preservation, to let them know what preservation means, what it could mean in terms of potentially

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 Southeast Denton places and families who created it.

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 You could have festivals, you could have wayfinding signs, all of those things could honor that

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 culture of Southeast Denton, both physical items, but also maybe things like tours.

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 we honor all the cultures that call Southeast Denton home.

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 These are short-term and mid-term tasks, so that one to two or three to five years, they're

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 And then also, as with anything, public outreach, communication is going to be needed.

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 This is how the matrix looks.

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 So unless you want to talk through these, we could go on to the next group of items

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 strengthen neighborhoods.

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 So at our visioning workshop last August, we talked to the community about areas that

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 Those are really important to the community.

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 what kind of housing types of commercial development would you like to see?

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 or triplexes, but they really also wanted to maintain those single family homes, especially

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 in those areas in blue that a lot of that zoning has been in place for a long time,

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 and those are the areas that they would be open to more of that multifamily development.

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 like a grocery store or a pharmacy someplace to shop.

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 some houses in some specific areas to allow for commercial development in those houses,

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 something that could be nested inside the neighborhood and would be compatible with the surrounding

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 So based upon the areas of change of stability and this, we are proposing some modifications

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 plan that was adopted in 2022.

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 The areas I want to call your attention to are the ones outlined in blue.

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 Those under the current future land use, these right here are that downtown future land use.

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 so that any future development, any development area would be compatible with those adjacent

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 is the county property and it's developed as such.

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 So we created this symbology to mix community mixed use with that public facilities so that

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 we can imagine what types of uses we would want to see on that corner if and when that

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 time to redevelop ever came.

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 And then finally, this corner here at Morse and Woodrow, it's kind of a good corner, we've

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 got an arterial there on Woodrow and then at some point in the future it will be signalized.

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 I would also point out that we talked about last week with the steering committee, the

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 Denton 2040 comprehensive plan did classify the area kind of south of or off of Shady

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 This plan kind of reaffirmed that.

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 Once again, that was in that area of change.

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 So there are four proposed overlay districts.

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 Residential overlay, that's that area in yellow.

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 Just wanting to make sure that we protect that residential, particularly in terms of

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 scale and architectural theming.

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 downtown to provide that transition to those residential areas.

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 The one that we talked about a lot last week with our steering committee is live work.

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 I think Tina reminded us today, we talked for about 30 minutes on this overlay.

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 Now that street has changed since that historic main street, but there's been some interest

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 to kind of bring that back a little bit, but keeping in mind that there is adjacent residential

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 scale retail or maybe office uses or something like a hair salon or barbershop, coffee shop.

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 where does it go or how intense does it get?

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 nicely and that their impacts to those residential areas are minimized, but continue to keep

474
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,720
 monitoring it to see how it's working and see if any tweaks need to be made.

475
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,280
 So it will be an ongoing iterative process.

476
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,160
 And then finally, a commercial overlay, and that's that area in red.

477
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,800
 Of course, I did talk about that we anticipate that we'd like for that area off of Shady

478
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,560
 Oaks to redevelop out of those industrial uses to something that's more compatible with

479
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,760
 the residential.

480
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:27,800
 But we also want to make sure that any commercial uses still also don't create negative impacts

481
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,800
 for the residential.

482
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:37,480
 So we're proposing to add a commercial overlay to ensure that it is consistent with what

483
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,740
 the community's vision is.

484
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:42,640
 These are some short-term but also long-term tasks.

485
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,600
 There's quite a bit of zoning involved in this, and we want to make sure that it's done

486
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:52,080
 correctly and that we keep the property owners and the community involved in this process.

487
00:33:52,080 --> 00:34:01,120
 So public outreach and communication are going to be absolutely key in these action items.

488
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,960
 So here's what they look like in your matrix.

489
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,820
 Did y'all have any questions on any of those slides?

490
00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:08,820
 Questions about?

491
00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:09,820
 Commissioner Perot.

492
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:11,400
 Thank you, Chair.

493
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:20,560
 Great work, but I want to understand a little bit better what the vision is for achieving

494
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:27,000
 some of those diversity of housing options that we talked to and the goals.

495
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,160
 As I'm looking at this, and don't let me put words in your mouth, it looks like there

496
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,720
 are specific things the neighborhood has said, "We don't want to lose X, Y, and Z."

497
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:42,900
 And so the direction is, let's put some controls in it for that and then come in either simultaneous

498
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:49,400
 or after the fact to allow some of that more housing diversity within that area, but not

499
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,280
 sacrificing those things the community expressed.

500
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,280
 Is that...

501
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,240
 That really is, and if I heard something different, let me know, but really that is the intent.

502
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:04,720
 So the residential overlay would potentially see where we can do to encourage infill in

503
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:12,400
 those lots that probably could allow for another home on them, but make sure that anything

504
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,160
 is developed is consistent with the scale and the architecture.

505
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,880
 I mean, Southeast Denton has this...

506
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,800
 The way it developed was over different time periods, so you've got some craftsman areas

507
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:32,020
 and you have some ranch-style home areas, and we want to make sure that any development

508
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:37,240
 within those streets and those neighborhoods fit and that they work, and that's where it's

509
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:41,720
 gonna come in in coming in with those residential overlays to make sure we get it right.

510
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:42,820
 Okay, thank you.

511
00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:48,520
 And just a comment, I think it wasn't apparent to me when reading through the backup material,

512
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:57,720
 but seeing you explain sort of how the desire for perhaps some small commercial uses in

513
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:06,300
 certain places and that sort of thing in existing buildings, I wonder if the tool of using what

514
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:12,680
 I've seen called accessory commercial units ever came up where someone would build a different

515
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,320
 structure in front of a house that maybe had a very large setback to be able to hold that

516
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,200
 use up front, but then still have residential in the back.

517
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,720
 Was that discussed or...?

518
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:29,060
 We didn't talk about that specific, but like I said, and Tina may want to jump in here,

519
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:35,940
 these are written to be somewhat broad so that there can be reevaluation and to make

520
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:42,400
 sure that we get it right once we get to that, pass the policy and into the regulatory document,

521
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,600
 so I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

522
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,800
 Yeah, I would agree.

523
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,400
 The action items provide the idea of these are the steps that we need to take, but how

524
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,240
 the sausage is made on those action items is not fleshed out in the document at this

525
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:05,320
 time because that's not what the purpose of the document is at this point in our efforts,

526
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,280
 but to that point, and Julie's point about the flexibility, depending upon the time period

527
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,360
 in which we are implementing something that we have to take into consideration, what are

528
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,280
 the facts on the ground at that time, right?

529
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:25,280
 So it could be that next year we're working on establishing a conservation district or

530
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,160
 looking to allow for the live work units to come into play, but to your point, there's

531
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,840
 additional ways to achieve kind of a live work concept, so maybe the two uses don't

532
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,680
 necessarily have to be integrated in the same structure, but somebody can build that accessory

533
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,240
 commercial structure on the front and still achieve the same objective.

534
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,160
 So does that help address your question?

535
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,160
 Absolutely, thank you.

536
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,160
 Okay.

537
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,160
 Anybody else at this moment?

538
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,160
 Okay.

539
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,160
 All right.

540
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,160
 We'll keep going.

541
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,160
 All right.

542
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,520
 And then finally, I want to talk about Goal 6, and that is create a safe and connected

543
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,080
 multimodal travel system.

544
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,120
 So on your screen is the current mobility plan.

545
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,360
 You could see there's a variety of arterials and collectors that impact Southeast Denton.

546
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,880
 We've also got some pictures on the existing streets.

547
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,280
 The city has done some improvements to the streets within Southeast Denton in terms of

548
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:29,560
 that kind of between the curbs, but we've used this plan and this opportunity to reimagine

549
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:35,340
 some of these areas to see where we want to go next.

550
00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:37,240
 We also looked at the roadway conditions.

551
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,040
 We looked at where those sidewalks were, where they weren't.

552
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,800
 We also pulled that traffic crash injury map from the mobility plan.

553
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,920
 As you could see, the majority of crashes with injuries are along the perimeter on those

554
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,640
 arterials, but there are some areas within Southeast Denton, particularly along this

555
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:01,640
 lakey spine, which do have some concerns about safety.

556
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,280
 This was backed up by the discussion that we had with the community at the visioning

557
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,960
 workshop and that there were concerns about safety, particularly at those intersections.

558
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:19,680
 So we have some recommendations and some action steps associated with that.

559
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,560
 They include creating multimodal streets, and that is consistent with the mobility plan,

560
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,520
 with kind of the direction that we have within the city.

561
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,200
 And we want to make those intersections safer for all users.

562
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,720
 And we should have said at the outset, before we went to Juneteenth and before we went to

563
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:44,560
 the steering committee, the project team talked to internal staff to make sure that anything

564
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,960
 we proposed as an action step, we could actually achieve.

565
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,080
 And so we actually talked, we sat down with our transportation folks to talk through this,

566
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,480
 talk through some of those things that we would like to do as far as to make these intersections

567
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
 safer and to make sure we were on the right track.

568
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,160
 So we have talked with them.

569
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:13,320
 One of the ideas is to create a colorful crosswalks, particularly along those more dangerous intersections

570
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:22,020
 to alert drivers that pedestrians are there and to make it more visible.

571
00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:25,800
 We're also proposing to imagine additional connectivity.

572
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,840
 So you could see the dash lines here.

573
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,800
 Once again, we're kind of thinking through if the county ever were to leave that area,

574
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,560
 what would the connections be?

575
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:43,660
 So that would be a really great opportunity to add some east-west connections in the future.

576
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:48,900
 We also added, before I go to this, just want to, a little bit, the streets that we were

577
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:56,420
 looking primarily at the multimodal are these in blue here.

578
00:40:56,420 --> 00:41:05,460
 So it's really looking at particularly Prairie, Lakey, Morse, Robertson, those streets.

579
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:12,320
 Also the orange circles, those are those intersections that we would like to see some additional

580
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,720
 treatment to make sure that they are safer.

581
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:22,320
 And then finally, these orange circles here along Bell Avenue, those are intended to create,

582
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:31,000
 to work on that, that strengthened of the connectivity between southeast end and downtown.

583
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,940
 So with that, now we'll talk about the street sections.

584
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:39,880
 So we also had as part of the plan, the project team create some conceptual street sections,

585
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,720
 thinking in terms of that multimodal.

586
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:49,800
 So we're going to want to get car travel lanes, obviously, but also bicycle, pedestrian, street

587
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,520
 trees, and then in some areas we need on-street parking because this is an area where people

588
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,520
 live and they have these travel patterns, so we want to make sure that we are consistent

589
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:08,000
 with the travel patterns and what the community currently has and what they need.

590
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:15,440
 We also looked at these and how can we work within our existing right-of-way when possible.

591
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,920
 Because parts of town that are already developed are always challenging, they're good challenges,

592
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,040
 right, to try to figure out what we can fit within that right-of-way, but once again,

593
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,320
 we want to make sure we minimize disruption for residents.

594
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,800
 The steering committee emphasized the need for shade.

595
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,420
 And then one idea or action step is tactical urbanism.

596
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:43,640
 That's a great way to try out ideas that are low cost, that are reversible, so that if

597
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,560
 we do add some sort of intervention, say on Moore Street, to figure out how to slow the

598
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:55,760
 traffic on Moore Street, if one solution doesn't work, then we can try another solution.

599
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,720
 But it allows us to test before we spend a lot of dollars on that.

600
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:05,680
 So that will be, I think, a good opportunity for us.

601
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,680
 These are mid and short-term tasks.

602
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,160
 We want to get moving on these.

603
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,100
 They're going to require coordination with a lot of city departments.

604
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:19,040
 Urban funding will be needed, bond funds, maybe TIF funds, and then once again, public

605
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,420
 outreach and communication to make sure that we are coordinating particularly with the

606
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:29,320
 people most affected by any changes to these streets.

607
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,320
 Any questions on that?

608
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,320
 All right.

609
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,280
 And now I'm going to bring me up.

610
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:43,440
 If there are no other questions about the plan, we want to talk about next steps, what

611
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,440
 we have coming up.

612
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,760
 There is a special call, planning and zoning meeting, on July 17th to talk about the final

613
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,360
 draft of the plan, and then the following week, we will be bringing it to City Council

614
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,200
 for final adoption, and that is July 23rd.

615
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,340
 As far as implementation, we want to get started as soon as possible, right of way.

616
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:10,680
 So we would be looking to start those short-term tasks following adoption.

617
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,160
 We will continue public outreach.

618
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,880
 We want to stay involved, and the joke is that the SetApp area knows our faces and they

619
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,720
 know our names now, so we can't go away, and they can't get away from us.

620
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,600
 So we want to stay involved and make sure that throughout implementation, and just in

621
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,400
 the regular development review projects that we have that are around the area that we're

622
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,320
 communicating with them, any capital improvement projects that we have going on, making sure

623
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,640
 that we're communicating the timeline and being involved in that.

624
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:46,680
 And then, I believe that's it, unless we have any other items to discuss.

625
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,680
 Yep.

626
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,680
 Commissioner Perot.

627
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,680
 Thank you, Chair.

628
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,680
 Amazing job.

629
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,000
 Have we applied to APA Texas yet for the award?

630
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,000
 I'm serious.

631
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,080
 No, I'm just -- Not done yet.

632
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,080
 Not done yet.

633
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,080
 We'll get there.

634
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,080
 That's a good point.

635
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:07,980
 It would be amazing to see, and it might be a first, it might not, I don't know, to see

636
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:14,840
 this plan with the community members from the steering committee go to receive an award.

637
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,400
 So just an idea.

638
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,440
 Commissioner Perot.

639
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,360
 We can apply for national.

640
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,360
 I second.

641
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,720
 I think that's been a really impressive project and outcomes.

642
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,480
 I do have one question.

643
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,720
 Looking at the graphics that you provided regarding, like, just improving the safety

644
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:40,800
 at intersections, was there a type of study that was done that reflects the train?

645
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,440
 So, for example, when the train is stopped in McKinney, a lot of traffic is diverted

646
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,200
 through southeast Denton because, in particular, the intersection that's Robertson and Bell

647
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,360
 is the only outfeeder to get back into Bell.

648
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:59,300
 So, going through southeast Denton from McKinney, the traffic goes through the neighborhood,

649
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:02,080
 and it's already a little complex to navigate.

650
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,080
 And so one of the things I would also ask for you to consider is when that happens -- and

651
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,780
 it will happen because it's happened every year -- if maybe there could be special consideration

652
00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:16,600
 that's taken for the pathways that our residents may take through southeast Denton to try to

653
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,560
 get from McKinney around to cross over to Bell, if that makes any sense?

654
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,560
 Yeah.

655
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,560
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

656
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:31,440
 And I think our priority or our goal of -- that feeds into our goal of creating those connections

657
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,360
 or improving those connections between southeast Denton and downtown, but also southeast Denton

658
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,880
 and the north side of McKinney and things like that.

659
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,880
 Commissioner Billy Rayl.

660
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:47,360
 Yeah, I guess third on, this is fantastic, you know, very much appreciate all the work

661
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,320
 y'all have put into this, and it's a long time coming.

662
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,640
 You know, I know we've been talking about, you know, southeast Denton Small Area Plan

663
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,840
 for many years now, so thanks for putting this together and bringing it to fruition.

664
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:06,440
 Just going back to the overlays, if we could -- I'm sorry, I meant to ask this earlier.

665
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,080
 For the live/work overlay, what is that zoned as currently?

666
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:18,960
 Is it community mixed use or -- Do we have a current zoning map up here?

667
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,440
 I anticipated such a question.

668
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:30,440
 We have a zoning map, but I will also say that -- and I did not point it out, but there

669
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:41,360
 is -- we are proposing, I don't know if you saw the orange, to moderate density residential

670
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,840
 in this location here, too.

671
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,800
 So right now, that's neighborhood mixed use.

672
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:55,400
 We've got R7 along Prairie, and then we have R4, and then R4 along with some small neighborhood

673
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,400
 mixed use here.

674
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,400
 Got it.

675
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,520
 Mixed use neighborhood, sorry, neighborhood mixed use.

676
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,600
 For any commercial in the scope that y'all were discussing, that would require an SEP

677
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,480
 in the R7, correct?

678
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,480
 Or rezoning?

679
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,880
 Yeah, it would require -- and once again, these are sort of broad policy decisions.

680
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,160
 We're going to have to look at that zoning and then what those overlays are going to

681
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,160
 look like.

682
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160
 And we're going to want to do that in concert with the community.

683
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,000
 And then also, of course, talk to the planning and zoning and the decision makers to make

684
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,960
 sure that it addresses those needs.

685
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,960
 Awesome.

686
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,960
 Thank you, Beth.

687
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,960
 Thank you.

688
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,960
 Commissioner Cole.

689
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,960
 Thank you, Chair.

690
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,960
 Awesome job.

691
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,960
 Thank you.

692
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
 You guys have done amazing.

693
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,640
 You've done a great job building trust in the community, and we sure do appreciate it.

694
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,640
 And it's incredible.

695
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,440
 Anybody else?

696
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,680
 And I will echo all of that, my colleagues here.

697
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,080
 Yeah, from how we got started with this to wondering if we were going to be able to get

698
00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,600
 a steering committee and get that involvement, I mean, yeah, the outreach has been just really

699
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,600
 tremendous.

700
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,520
 And clearly, it's here before us.

701
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,520
 So that's exciting.

702
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,440
 See you on July 17th for a more in-depth discussion and some action.

703
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,440
 Awesome.

704
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,440
 Thank you.

705
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,440
 Thank you.

706
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:19,400
 Okay, we've got a final work session report, which is 3B-PZ2409-0.

707
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680
 Receive a report, hold a discussion regarding amending the Denton Development Code related

708
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:28,240
 to establishing agenda item consideration process within the Planning and Zoning Operational

709
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240
 Procedures.

710
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
 Hello.

711
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
 Good evening, Chair and Commissioners.

712
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:36,240
 Keisha Seriano, Assistant Planning Director.

713
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,600
 Come on.

714
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:46,920
 Okay, so we first discussed this item at the June 12th meeting.

715
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,000
 We heard your comments, and we went back to the office and made some changes, so presented

716
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,440
 to you tonight to gather more comments and feedback before we bring it back later for

717
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,440
 public hearing.

718
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,280
 But just a reminder, this is an item that is dash initiated based on process that happened

719
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:14,440
 last August and just confirmed that we needed to create a planning and zoning reconsideration

720
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,280
 for you all in our current code.

721
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:25,160
 Currently you do follow City Council's process if it's an item that is not currently already

722
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,880
 advertised for City Council, you go through the process that they do and you can bring

723
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,800
 it back as an item consideration to follow, meaning that's those same notes that you need

724
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,200
 to make to our director.

725
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,800
 But if it is an item that's already been advertised, currently you have to go to City Council and

726
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,400
 make their request for the item to be reconsidered, and they would have to say, "Yes, we'll send

727
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,400
 it back," or "No."

728
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,000
 So we wanted to create a process for you to be able to reconsider items that have already

729
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,660
 been publicly noticed for City Council.

730
00:50:55,660 --> 00:51:00,240
 So here's the recommended process, and so this has been adjusted from our conversations

731
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,200
 we had last month.

732
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,320
 So for items that are not publicly noticed for City Council consideration the following

733
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,720
 week, so this is your normal process that you will follow, is you will let us know by

734
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:19,080
 10 o'clock a.m. prior to that next following meeting as if an item needed to be, you requested

735
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,780
 a reconsideration.

736
00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:26,560
 If it's an item that has been publicly noticed and is on the agenda for City Council the

737
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:32,280
 following week of that planning zoning commission during that week, you need to let us know

738
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,920
 by 10 o'clock a.m. the following Friday.

739
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,880
 So that's one and a half days, the other one is about one and a half weeks.

740
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,920
 So I'll have a calendar at the end and you can see what that looks like.

741
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,520
 So again, as I just said, if you want an item to be reconsidered, you would bring it, it

742
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:58,520
 will come as an item of consideration first, and depending on how the vote went, it will

743
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,080
 be back on the following meeting for a public hearing.

744
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:07,320
 However, if it doesn't, then we'll go through the proper protocols to get it publicly noticed

745
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,860
 again to go to City Council.

746
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:15,200
 So here's the calendars.

747
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:22,680
 So the calendar on my left, it's the calendar showing for items not publicly noticed for

748
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,040
 City Council consideration.

749
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,140
 So you see that following Thursday, 10 a.m., before your next meeting, you need to let

750
00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:33,360
 us know if you want an item to be reconsidered.

751
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,760
 If it's an item that has already been publicly noticed for City Council the following week

752
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,320
 from your meeting, that's the calendar on the right, then we need to know the Friday.

753
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,440
 So if you look April 16th, excuse me, August 16th, we need to know based on your August

754
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:55,820
 14th original vote that was made, we need to know by that following Friday at 10 a.m.

755
00:52:55,820 --> 00:53:00,080
 Are there any questions or comments?

756
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,240
 Commissioner Perot?

757
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:05,240
 Looks good.

758
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:10,840
 I just want to check -- sorry, I don't have chapter and verse from the backup, but when

759
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:19,200
 you just said by the -- sorry.

760
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,720
 The situation I'm trying to make sure we have covered is if the City Council meeting, just

761
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:35,320
 because of schedule offsets, is 13 days from the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting

762
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,560
 instead of six days, right?

763
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:51,920
 So like on the left, if the City Council meeting is on the 27th instead of the 20th, then since

764
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,960
 the City Council meeting would be before the next Planning and Zoning meeting, I'm assuming

765
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:02,200
 that the purple asterisk would still apply, but I'm not sure whether it would apply on

766
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,920
 the 16th or the 23rd.

767
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,960
 Does that make sense?

768
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:06,960
 Yes.

769
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,960
 Okay.

770
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:15,320
 Dana, you have an answer for that.

771
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:23,480
 So we tried to address the normal council schedules.

772
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:30,320
 If we had a situation where the council meeting was a little bit larger gap between what it

773
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:35,360
 would normally be and where that meeting was scheduled, my recommendation would be we'd

774
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,080
 still follow the process on the left because we have not been publicly noticed to be able

775
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,840
 to provide for some continuity.

776
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:48,720
 We actually went down that rabbit hole with staff trying to work through that and seeing

777
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:56,760
 we could come up with something else and it did not result in any good solutions being

778
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,760
 proposed.

779
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:03,360
 And so therefore, we think the process that's on the left is generally what you're more

780
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,360
 accustomed to.

781
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,640
 We tried to maximize the amount of time for the commission, but also know that if we get

782
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,280
 a request for reconsideration, keep in mind, there's administrative work we've got to do

783
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,360
 where we've got to pull together that report and be able to get that on your agendas in

784
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,240
 a timely manner where we can get it posted.

785
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:23,200
 So we tried to maximize the time there, but if the council meeting ended up being farther

786
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,920
 out, then I would say we would still stick with the normal process because it's very

787
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,000
 difficult to codify any potential scenario when it comes to scheduling.

788
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,880
 So we opted for continuity and some consistency.

789
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,040
 Yeah, and if I could just jump in, because it really doesn't matter necessarily when

790
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,040
 the meeting is.

791
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,200
 It matters when the item is on their agenda.

792
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,920
 That's really what the issue is, right?

793
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,920
 Not when their meeting is going to be, whether it's a week after or 13 days after, right?

794
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:56,280
 So not when it's on the agenda, but when it's already been noticed as a released public

795
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,280
 agenda.

796
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,280
 Got it.

797
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,520
 Yeah, that's what's trying to be done here.

798
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,640
 Thank you for helping me with that.

799
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,640
 Sure.

800
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,640
 Anybody else?

801
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,640
 No?

802
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,640
 Okay.

803
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:06,640
 Yeah, thank you.

804
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,920
 I think with our discussion last time, I think this solves the issue that we were all having

805
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,240
 with it being that fast track date.

806
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,040
 So thank you for the extra work.

807
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,040
 Okay.

808
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,040
 Thank you.

809
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,720
 I was just going to show you the tentative schedule.

810
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,440
 So tentatively, we'll come back July 17th for a public hearing and then August 6th is

811
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,200
 tentatively for City Council.

812
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,200
 Thank you.

813
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200
 Thank you very much.

814
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,400
 Okay.

815
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,660
 That is the last thing in our work session.

816
00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:39,680
 So I'll go ahead and close our work session at 6 p.m. and we will reconvene in council

817
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,280
 chambers at 630.

818
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,280
 Thank you.

819
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,880
 Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for

820
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,280
 Wednesday, June 26th, 2024.

821
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,120
 With the quorum present, I'll call us to order at 632 p.m.

822
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,760
 Let the record show that Commissioner Thaggard is absent this evening.

823
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,040
 First item is Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas Flags.

824
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:11,160
 I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

825
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:19,600
 which it stands, one Nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

826
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:27,600
 Honored Texas Flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State, under God, one Nation,

827
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,600
 indivisible.

828
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:36,960
 Thank you, our first order of business is the approval of our minutes from our meeting

829
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,840
 for June 12th.

830
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,840
 Commissioner Villarreal.

831
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,840
 Move approval.

832
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,840
 Commissioner Cole.

833
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,840
 Second.

834
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,840
 Got a first and a second for approval.

835
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,840
 Any discussion?

836
00:57:47,840 --> 00:58:00,640
 Okay, let's go ahead and vote, please.

837
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,440
 That motion carries 5-0.

838
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:09,080
 That will take us to our consent agenda for this evening.

839
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,080
 Commissioner Villarreal.

840
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,080
 Move approval.

841
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:18,800
 Okay, I'm going to wait for, okay, Commissioner Cole.

842
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,800
 Second.

843
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,320
 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval of our consent agenda.

844
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,320
 Discussion?

845
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:32,800
 Okay, let's vote, please.

846
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,400
 That motion carries 5-0.

847
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840
 That will take us to our items for individual consideration.

848
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,240
 That first being 4A, FP240024.

849
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,160
 Matt is here for presentation of that item.

850
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,960
 Hello?

851
00:58:47,960 --> 00:59:06,400
 Good evening, Commission, Matt Bourdine, Assistant Planner, presenting FP240024 on behalf of

852
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800
 Sean Jacobson.

853
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:15,840
 This is to consider a quest of a final plot of Sage Creek townhomes located at the intersection

854
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,920
 of Audre Lane and Lattimore Street.

855
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:25,200
 The purpose of this plot is to establish 163 residential townhome lots, nine common area

856
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,880
 lots, as well as easements and right-of-way necessary for development.

857
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:38,080
 This plot, as it is right now, does not meet the criteria for approval, so staff is recommending

858
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,080
 denial.

859
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,560
 However, staff has no objection to the submitted request for an extension, and this would be

860
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,040
 the first extension request.

861
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,040
 Great.

862
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,040
 Thank you, Matt.

863
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,040
 Discussion?

864
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,040
 Okay.

865
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,960
 Thank you very much.

866
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:56,960
 Commissioner Villarreal.

867
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:03,240
 I move approval of the extension request to a date certain of July 24th, 2024.

868
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,240
 All right.

869
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,240
 Commissioner Pruitt?

870
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,240
 Second.

871
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,240
 Okay.

872
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,040
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of July

873
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,040
 24th, 2024.

874
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,040
 Any discussion?

875
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,040
 Okay.

876
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:25,600
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

877
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,680
 That motion carries 5-0.

878
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:34,800
 Before we move to 4-B, Commissioner Cole is going to abstain from items 4-B through F.

879
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,240
 So, we'll let him move.

880
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,240
 Okay.

881
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,440
 And then I'll go ahead and invite Julie up.

882
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,240
 Oh, Mia is presenting this one.

883
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,240
 I'm sorry.

884
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,240
 It's 4-B, FP240022.

885
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,240
 That's cool.

886
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:55,200
 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hine, Senior Planner, standing in for

887
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,360
 Julie Wyatt, who's the planner on this project, presenting to you Robson Ranch Unit 40, the

888
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,320
 final plat, FP240022.

889
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:10,720
 The site is 54 acres located just east of Ed Robson Boulevard and approximately 650

890
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,720
 feet north of Goodland Drive.

891
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,800
 At this time, the plat is not ready for approval, so we are recommending denial.

892
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:23,000
 However, we have no objection to the first requested extension, which could be granted

893
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,360
 to July 24, 2024.

894
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,720
 With that, I'll take any questions you have.

895
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,720
 Thanks, Mia.

896
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,560
 Thank you very much.

897
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,560
 Commissioner Pruitt?

898
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,560
 Yeah.

899
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:44,760
 I'll move approval for the requested extension to a date certain of July 24, 2024.

900
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:45,760
 Thank you.

901
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,760
 Commissioner Villanueva?

902
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,760
 Second.

903
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,120
 Okay, we've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of

904
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,360
 July 24, 2024.

905
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,360
 Discussion?

906
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,360
 Okay.

907
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:09,160
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

908
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,760
 That motion carries 4-0.

909
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:17,880
 That will take us to 4C, FP240012B, and Erin is here for presentation.

910
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,880
 Yes.

911
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:19,880
 Good evening, Chair.

912
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,880
 Members of the Commission.

913
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,840
 Erin Stanley, Assistant Planner, presenting this for Cameron Robertson.

914
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,440
 This is phase one of the Hunter Ranch development.

915
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:36,280
 This is generally located north of Robson Ranch Road and west of I-35W.

916
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:43,500
 This is a 53-acre site for 95 single-family lots and 10 HOA lots, and staff is recommending

917
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,880
 approval as they've met all of the criteria.

918
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,560
 Thanks, Erin.

919
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:56,520
 I'll go ahead and make a motion for approval of this item, Commissioner Villareal.

920
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,520
 Second.

921
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,520
 Okay.

922
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,400
 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion.

923
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,400
 Okay.

924
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:17,640
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

925
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,840
 Motion carries 4-0.

926
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,720
 That will take us to 4D, FP240013B.

927
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:29,840
 Sorry, Margie, just for the record, I think that last vote went through as a continue

928
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,760
 to a date certain, as opposed to approval.

929
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,760
 On the board?

930
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:36,760
 Yeah.

931
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,760
 I didn't know.

932
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,720
 I'm not sure what we need to do there.

933
01:03:42,720 --> 01:04:00,920
 Did we have a technical difficulty there?

934
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:07,600
 Nope.

935
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:16,320
 This was item 4C.

936
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,800
 Do we need to read?

937
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,000
 We're okay?

938
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,080
 Okay.

939
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,080
 Thank you.

940
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,080
 Okay.

941
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,080
 Okay.

942
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,080
 Go ahead, Erin.

943
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,080
 Thank you.

944
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,080
 Are we good?

945
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,080
 Good?

946
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,080
 Yeah, we're good.

947
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,080
 Okay.

948
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,080
 Yeah.

949
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,240
 So, the next one is Hunter Ranch Phase 1B.

950
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:45,840
 This is approximately 53 acres for 180 single family lots and eight HOA lots, and staff

951
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,000
 is recommending approval as it meets all criteria.

952
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,120
 Thanks, Erin.

953
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,120
 Commissioner Villareal?

954
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,120
 Move approval.

955
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,120
 Commissioner Pruitt?

956
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,120
 Second.

957
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,840
 We've got a first and a second for approval of item 4D.

958
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:01,840
 Any discussion?

959
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,840
 Okay.

960
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:16,060
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

961
01:05:16,060 --> 01:05:17,400
 That motion carries 4-0.

962
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:23,800
 That will take us to 4E, FP240014B.

963
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,880
 This is Hunter Ranch Phase 1C.

964
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:35,720
 This is 67 acres for 287 single family lots and 10 HOA lots, and staff is also recommending

965
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:36,720
 approval.

966
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,720
 Thank you.

967
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,720
 Commissioner Pruitt?

968
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,720
 Move approval.

969
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,720
 Commissioner Villareal?

970
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:41,720
 Second.

971
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,720
 Okay.

972
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:49,960
 We've got a first and a second for 4E, FP240014B discussion.

973
01:05:49,960 --> 01:06:05,440
 Okay, let's vote, please.

974
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:14,480
 That motion carries 4-0, taking us to 4F, FP240015.

975
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:24,560
 This is Hunter Ranch Phase 1D on 56 acres for 185 single family lots and 8 HOA lots,

976
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,240
 and staff is also recommending approval.

977
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,240
 Great.

978
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,240
 Thank you, Erin.

979
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,880
 Commissioner Pruitt?

980
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,600
 Move approval.

981
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,600
 Commissioner Padrone?

982
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,600
 Second.

983
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,600
 Okay.

984
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,360
 We've got a first and a second for approval discussion.

985
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:49,200
 Okay, let's vote, please.

986
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:55,120
 That motion carries 4-0.

987
01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,780
 That will take us to item 4G, FP240021.

988
01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:05,780
 Give Commissioner Cole a moment to join us.

989
01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:06,780
 Thank you.

990
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:07,780
 Hi, Matt.

991
01:07:07,780 --> 01:07:08,780
 Good evening.

992
01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:17,640
 Matt Bodean, Assistant Planner, here to consider a final plot of forest crossing Phase 2 addition

993
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:24,360
 and approximately 20-acre track on May Hill Road north of McKinney Street.

994
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:31,200
 This final plot creates two lots in the easements for development to construct a multi-family

995
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:38,960
 development that received approval of a specific use permit by City Council on February 7,

996
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,120
 2023, as well as dedicate right away for a new collector's street.

997
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:50,040
 An updated version of this plot was sent to the commission on Monday.

998
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:56,520
 That plot meets the criteria for approval, so staff is recommending approval of the plot.

999
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,520
 Thank you very much.

1000
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,160
 Okay.

1001
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,160
 Commissioner Villarreal.

1002
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,160
 Move approval.

1003
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,160
 Commissioner Pruitt.

1004
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,160
 Second.

1005
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,360
 We've got a first and a second for approval of 4G.

1006
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,520
 Any discussion?

1007
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:22,240
 Okay, let's vote, please.

1008
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,520
 That motion carries 5-0.

1009
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:32,240
 Access to 4HFP240023.

1010
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:39,800
 This is a final plot of Riviera addition, an approximately 15-acre tract on the north

1011
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,520
 side of Fishtrap Road.

1012
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:47,440
 This is to create a lot of record from a previously unplotted tract of land.

1013
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:53,520
 The staff is recommending a denial at this time because the plot doesn't quite meet the

1014
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,520
 criteria for approval.

1015
01:08:54,520 --> 01:09:02,720
 However, we do not object to the requested extension to date certain of July 24, 2024.

1016
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:03,720
 Great.

1017
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,720
 Thanks, ma'am.

1018
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,720
 Commissioner Villarreal.

1019
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:11,200
 Move approval of the extension request to date certain of July 24, 2024.

1020
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,200
 Okay.

1021
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,200
 Thank you.

1022
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,200
 Commissioner Cole.

1023
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,200
 Second.

1024
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,040
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to date certain of July

1025
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
 24, 2024.

1026
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,440
 Seeing no discussion, let's go ahead and vote, please.

1027
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:33,400
 That motion carries 5-0.

1028
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:42,600
 We'll take us to 4I PD240005, and that is Mia's item here this evening.

1029
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,600
 Hi.

1030
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:44,600
 Hello.

1031
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,600
 Good evening again.

1032
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,200
 Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner.

1033
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:58,040
 Yes, so this item, PD240005, this is the second time you are receiving a presentation on this

1034
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,040
 item.

1035
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,160
 As it was, the public hearing was continued to this date at the last meeting.

1036
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:08,960
 Just a brief overview, a reminder of the site and the case at hand.

1037
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:15,840
 This is a request to rezone property from R6 to PD with a light industrial-based zoning

1038
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,120
 district, and that's a PD overlay.

1039
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:24,480
 The site itself is just under 53 acres, located north of Black Road, approximately 800 feet

1040
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:30,940
 east of Giesling Road, and it's a part of a larger 86.07-acre tract, which is outlined

1041
01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:32,880
 there in yellow.

1042
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,300
 The request itself would establish light industrial-based zoning on this site.

1043
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:40,480
 It also would require ESA compliance and zoning compliance plan review.

1044
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:46,720
 It establishes a 250-foot building setback, requires a 50-foot wide landscape buffer with

1045
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:58,040
 50 points adjacent to the residential properties to the east and south of the subject property.

1046
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:03,420
 In addition to the restrictions that we had initially published for the first meeting

1047
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:08,560
 that this public hearing was at, there were some additional concessions that the applicant

1048
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:14,000
 agreed to after hearing the neighboring residents' feedback at the last meeting.

1049
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,920
 Specifically, they are proposing to add in the condition to the land use compatibility

1050
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:29,320
 buffer area that allows for a masonry wall to be placed and counted towards their landscape

1051
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:35,000
 buffer points, but to be placed in a way that basically preserves the existing tree canopy

1052
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,400
 within the 50-foot buffer that they are proposing between their subject site and the residential

1053
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,400
 zone properties adjacent to it.

1054
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,880
 Additionally, they are proposing to restrict uses that would otherwise be permitted under

1055
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,120
 the base light industrial zoning district.

1056
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:55,240
 Specifically, those uses are major and minor automotive repair, auto fuel sales, travel

1057
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,480
 plaza, hotel, motel, and parking lot as a principal use.

1058
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:05,880
 Finally, they are proposing to cap the maximum building height within this area to 55 feet,

1059
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:12,080
 whereas the base light industrial zoning district would allow for that to go up to 75 feet.

1060
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,760
 With that, staff is recommending approval of this request as it meets our criteria for

1061
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,440
 approval, and that concludes my presentation this evening for you.

1062
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:23,560
 I do have the applicant here who would like to speak as well.

1063
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,560
 Sure.

1064
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,560
 Thank you.

1065
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,560
 Any questions for me at this time?

1066
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,560
 Okay.

1067
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,560
 Thank you very much.

1068
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:33,560
 And yes, I'll go ahead and invite Amy Bissett up for discussion.

1069
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,560
 Hello.

1070
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,560
 Good evening, commissioners.

1071
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:36,560
 Hello.

1072
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,560
 Amy Bissett, 109 North Elm, 76201.

1073
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:44,360
 I brought some slides, but I'm not going to share them unless you ask some specific questions

1074
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,500
 where we might need to go into detail.

1075
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:51,600
 I just wanted to share that since we were here two weeks ago, we did work through the

1076
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,840
 language for the PD standards, specifically to ... I spent some time with the neighbors

1077
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:03,320
 after the last meeting, and we talked through what their real objectives were between preservation

1078
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:11,720
 of tree canopy and natural area versus the masonry wall and how that could cause the

1079
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,920
 killing of the trees that they're trying to save.

1080
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:19,600
 And ultimately, they ranked preservation of trees and natural area above the masonry wall,

1081
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,920
 which is why the PD standards are written the way they are today, so that they reflect

1082
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,000
 the desire of the neighborhood in order of importance.

1083
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,520
 And we do have a few neighbors here this evening, and I just want to say again that it's been

1084
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,720
 a pleasure to work with them.

1085
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:41,520
 And I feel like the conditions that are before you tonight accurately reflect the desires

1086
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:48,400
 of the neighborhood to the greatest extent possible, reflecting my applicant's wish to

1087
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,400
 rezone.

1088
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,400
 So thank you.

1089
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,400
 Great.

1090
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,400
 Thank you.

1091
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,400
 Any questions for Ms. Bissett?

1092
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,400
 All right.

1093
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:55,400
 Thank you.

1094
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,400
 Okay.

1095
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,400
 Appreciate it.

1096
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,920
 You're welcome to ask me, but if there is anyone in the audience who would like to speak

1097
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:04,360
 on this item, you are welcome to do so.

1098
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,480
 Hi.

1099
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:09,480
 Good evening.

1100
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:10,480
 Good evening.

1101
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,560
 Jonathan Brooks, 5579 Black Road in Texas, 76208.

1102
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,280
 I spoke to you guys last time about this.

1103
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:22,680
 I did meet with Amy after the meeting and then again a few times in between these two meetings.

1104
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:28,400
 And I was very happy with what I understand the proposal to be, as Amy has explained it

1105
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,960
 to me, with specifically the tree canopy not being disturbed.

1106
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:43,920
 If I'm looking to you as the experts in this area, and I'm asking really, is the new proposal

1107
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,120
 that has been put forth concerning the 50 points, which I'm not exactly sure exactly

1108
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,120
 what that means.

1109
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,120
 I know it has to do with trees and shrubs and things like that.

1110
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,280
 And the setting of where the wall doesn't necessarily have to be.

1111
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,600
 But if the new buyer, whoever buys it, wants to put it there, does it seem to you that

1112
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,280
 it will preserve, it won't kill those trees that are along the border in that 50 foot

1113
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,280
 buffer zone?

1114
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,320
 So that's a question I'm asking.

1115
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,320
 Yes.

1116
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:18,600
 And Mia, do you have that verbiage that we can put up that's in front of us?

1117
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,080
 Do you have it to read?

1118
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,080
 Yep.

1119
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,080
 That would be great.

1120
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,840
 I think that will answer your question.

1121
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:24,840
 That's really it?

1122
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:25,840
 Yes.

1123
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,840
 Okay.

1124
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:27,840
 Thank you, Ms. Brooks.

1125
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,840
 And thank you, Amy, for that.

1126
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,880
 You bet.

1127
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:45,640
 Oh, I do also want to say that one of you asked for the alignment of Giesling Road and

1128
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:46,640
 text on improvements.

1129
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,320
 And I do have a slide on that as well, if you'd like to review that.

1130
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,400
 Here is the verbiage, a minimum 50 foot wide landscape buffer shall be required as illustrated

1131
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:01,960
 in Figure 1, which is included in your backup, all of the buffer areas we discussed.

1132
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,680
 It has to contain 50 points of buffer planting or screening elements.

1133
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,160
 And the eight foot tall masonry screening wall, if provided, may receive credit for

1134
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:18,400
 buffer points, even if it is located further than 50 feet from the buffer area.

1135
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,620
 If the wall is located to provide screening between the development on the subject property

1136
01:16:22,620 --> 01:16:27,920
 and those residential properties, any screening wall constructed shall be outside of any environmentally

1137
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,600
 sensitive areas and the wall shall be located far enough from all healthy trees located

1138
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,160
 within the 50 foot buffer, such that the wall footing and construction do not impact the

1139
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,240
 critical root zone of all healthy trees within the buffer being preserved.

1140
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,240
 Excellent.

1141
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,240
 Thank you for reading that.

1142
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:52,380
 Do you want to see the alignment at Giesling?

1143
01:16:52,380 --> 01:16:57,440
 The neighbors might be curious about this as well, so this was just recently released

1144
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:04,040
 by TextDOT right after the last PNZ meeting, and this is preliminary at this point in time.

1145
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,640
 Construction would not occur until 2028 or '29 at the earliest.

1146
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:15,160
 But as of right now, what TextDOT is proposing is just east of Giesling here, the main land

1147
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:24,720
 lanes of 380 would become a bridge over Giesling, and there would be both an exit and an entrance

1148
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,880
 off of the main lanes to be able to access Giesling, which would be a signalized intersection

1149
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:30,880
 going forward.

1150
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,400
 So I do think that improves the traffic conditions for traffic coming in and out of that location

1151
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,400
 going forward.

1152
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,400
 Great.

1153
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,400
 Thank you.

1154
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:40,400
 Thank you for providing that.

1155
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,400
 Appreciate it.

1156
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,400
 Thank you.

1157
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,560
 Yep, come on down.

1158
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:46,560
 Sure.

1159
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:51,480
 My name is Eric Janssen.

1160
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:59,320
 I reside at 3617 Falcon Court in South Denton, but I have property nearby here, and I would

1161
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,880
 invite Amy to come back up and confirm what I heard at the TextDOT meeting is if you look

1162
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:10,400
 at that schematic, and this is in the context of the conversation two weeks ago about access

1163
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:18,040
 to the property, what I understood from that TextDOT is there will be no ingress or egress

1164
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:23,080
 allowed from the subject property to university.

1165
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:29,560
 The only ingress and egress from the subject property will be via Giesling, and we were

1166
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,400
 under the impression that there would be Giesling and university, and so there really wouldn't

1167
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,240
 be much need for much traffic to go in and out of Black Road.

1168
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:44,840
 That green on the south side of the red, the green that goes east from Giesling and goes

1169
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:55,880
 past the flea market is an enclosed ramp that feeds onto the continuation of eastbound 380.

1170
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:02,800
 What TextDOT explained to me was that there will be a wall there that encloses the lane.

1171
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,160
 The subject property, light industrial, whether it develops in a year, whether it develops

1172
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:16,960
 in five years or whenever, there will be no ingress or egress northbound to the 380 as

1173
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:17,960
 they currently have.

1174
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:24,360
 There will be no ingress or egress until such time as frontage roads are built, and the

1175
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:31,200
 TextDOT planners at the meeting a week ago said there's no telling when that would be.

1176
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,860
 Perhaps Amy can elaborate because I think she may have had some other conversations

1177
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:40,720
 with them about the subject in the past week or so, but it's just important for the planners

1178
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:46,800
 to understand and for neighbors to understand that all ingress and egress will essentially

1179
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,760
 be Giesling until such time that frontage roads are constructed because the way TextDOT

1180
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,880
 currently has their plan, there will be a wall and there will be no way to get in or

1181
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,960
 out from the north side of the property.

1182
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960
 Is that pretty much?

1183
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,960
 Thank you very much.

1184
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,960
 [inaudible]

1185
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,960
 Sure.

1186
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,960
 Amy, yeah.

1187
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:09,960
 Come on up.

1188
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:10,960
 Yeah.

1189
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,960
 If you want to ...

1190
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:23,840
 So what has been previously proposed in terms of access to 380 from Giesling would be limited

1191
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:30,760
 at maximum to ride in, ride out, and we were under the impression under previous zoning

1192
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:37,400
 changes related to this property that that would be a challenging ask to begin with.

1193
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:43,460
 What we like about this plan is that it does give a protected right-hand turn and left-hand

1194
01:20:43,460 --> 01:20:51,200
 turn for all truck traffic onto 380s so that it would actually, in my non-expert traffic

1195
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:57,060
 opinion, alleviate any pressure off of black because truck traffic is going to go straight

1196
01:20:57,060 --> 01:21:00,880
 out to 380 and they'll be able to turn left or right, they wouldn't have to take black

1197
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,600
 east or west to find a signalized intersection.

1198
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:11,400
 We always assumed that any entrance or exit off of 380 would be restricted to ride in,

1199
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:17,240
 ride out, and would not solve that issue, so we feel that this is an improvement to

1200
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:23,320
 that that would prevent the truck traffic from using black to get to a different intersection,

1201
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:24,320
 if that makes sense.

1202
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,320
 That does.

1203
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:31,880
 And at this point, these plans could change, this is very early for TxDOT, and it would

1204
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:37,080
 be constructed six or seven years from now where, with any luck, this project will be

1205
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,080
 developed by then.

1206
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,080
 Thank you.

1207
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,080
 Thank you very much.

1208
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:45,480
 Commissioner Pedro, was that question, is that question for Amy or?

1209
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:51,360
 I'm actually just curious if we could go through the remainder of her slides that she created.

1210
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:58,080
 Just as it's here, I would like to see what other slides are presented.

1211
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,360
 Most of them are what I went through two weeks ago, but I think you may have missed that

1212
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,360
 meeting.

1213
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,360
 No, you were here?

1214
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,360
 Okay.

1215
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:11,360
 So just as a quick recap, this property has been before you all before.

1216
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:17,760
 In 2021, the northwest portion of it was rezoned to light industrial to facilitate a project

1217
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,360
 that didn't materialize at that time.

1218
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:25,040
 The current property owners own the entire tract outlined in red here.

1219
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,280
 They're marketing the property for sale and are seeking...

1220
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:35,000
 Oh, sure thing, yes, thank you.

1221
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,660
 They're seeking consistent zoning.

1222
01:22:36,660 --> 01:22:39,400
 Right now, it's a split zoning on one tract.

1223
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:45,480
 So that's the purpose of coming before you now rather than waiting until there is a developer.

1224
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:51,520
 And there are significant in conferences on the site that make it unsuitable for residential

1225
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:57,280
 development, including electric transmission lines, a gas pipeline, and it's adjacent to

1226
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,440
 an electric substation.

1227
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:05,600
 The future land use plan does show a transition area between low residential and light industrial

1228
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:12,720
 along the borders of all the residentially zoned properties or homes that are in the

1229
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:20,040
 DJ today, and in respect of that transition area, that is why we have proposed the increased

1230
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:26,360
 setback to 250 feet and the increased landscape buffer to 50 feet.

1231
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:32,600
 And we did initially propose those conditions to only be along the east property line and

1232
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:37,880
 had two neighborhood meetings with the neighbors in May.

1233
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:46,180
 And after hearing from them, we increased the proposed buffer area to include the properties

1234
01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:48,600
 to the south as well.

1235
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:55,240
 And this is a slide showing the property owners that we know that we have spoken with over

1236
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,240
 the months.

1237
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:05,300
 And we've covered the additional requests and conditions already this evening, and that's

1238
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:06,300
 really everything.

1239
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:07,920
 Thank you.

1240
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:08,920
 Any questions from that?

1241
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:09,920
 Okay.

1242
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,920
 Questions?

1243
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,920
 No.

1244
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,920
 Okay.

1245
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:13,920
 Thank you.

1246
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,440
 Is there anyone else who's here that would be wanting to speak?

1247
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:24,160
 Yeah, come on down.

1248
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,960
 Okay, thanks.

1249
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,680
 Tom Brooks, 6801 Appaloosa Court, 76208.

1250
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,160
 I spoke with you guys previously and really wanted to address two concerns.

1251
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,920
 And we've talked a little bit about this last time, I think, and it's been discussed a little

1252
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:45,800
 bit earlier today regarding the traffic issue along Blag.

1253
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:52,160
 Certainly appreciate all of the information regarding the developments along 380 and the

1254
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,680
 bypass and all that, but it still doesn't address anything that may come down May Hill

1255
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,320
 onto Blag and then down Giesling.

1256
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:04,520
 I mean, I'm not sure if the city's considered anything to prevent potential truck traffic

1257
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,920
 coming down Blag from May Hill.

1258
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:15,720
 That's a bigger issue too, because as I mentioned before, Blag Road barely can sustain two vehicles

1259
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:22,720
 going in each direction as opposed to one single large truck, so serious safety concerns

1260
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,720
 there.

1261
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:32,360
 The other one is, we've discussed this, I live on the east side of the proposed rezoning

1262
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:41,600
 piece of property, it is a good portion of that ESA, that creek that runs through there.

1263
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:49,840
 I think for me, there's concern to rezone this piece of property without knowing what

1264
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:56,320
 would be developed on that in any future time and what implications that would have on that

1265
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,280
 ESA from a drainage perspective.

1266
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:03,120
 So I think it's a little premature to be making decisions, but I can understand their concerns

1267
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:08,120
 to try and zone it consistently across the board, and certainly the concessions they've

1268
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,440
 made on that property, but the one thing it doesn't address is any of the drainage issues.

1269
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:21,460
 I know that there's language in the DDC regarding ESAs and drainage about that'll be looked

1270
01:26:21,460 --> 01:26:27,000
 at when the time comes, but I think it should be looked at now.

1271
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,480
 I live on that east side of the property where all that drainage comes to, and I have concerns

1272
01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:34,520
 of any flooding, that's what I wanted to show you here.

1273
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:40,420
 Part of my concerns is this is a video of one of the property owners in Lakeview where

1274
01:26:40,420 --> 01:26:45,680
 this creek runs through, and this is a typical rainfall, so there's a detention pond on a

1275
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:52,460
 person's property adjacent to this guy's property, and you can see this.

1276
01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:58,920
 This is the issue that we're running into when this creek floods.

1277
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:05,040
 That's significant runoff from a detention pond into this person's property, and this

1278
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,300
 is what I see on my property anytime there's a significant rainfall.

1279
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:15,320
 Now if we build something on that property in question, there's issues.

1280
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:20,740
 My house is probably going to get flooded if not taken care of properly, so I have huge

1281
01:27:20,740 --> 01:27:22,440
 concerns regarding this.

1282
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:29,080
 Not just me, but everyone that lives in Lakeview Ranch that this creek comes through, and so

1283
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,320
 I think that needs to be considered.

1284
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,900
 Certainly I've read through a lot of the guidelines, the ESA and the drainage guidelines

1285
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:40,600
 in the DDC.

1286
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:46,480
 You guys say that you'll make the right decisions, right research and planning, do the analysis,

1287
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,240
 but that's not going to prevent anything.

1288
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,040
 What are the repercussions if something does happen?

1289
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,240
 Who's going to take care of my house if it does flood?

1290
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,440
 I'm asking you guys, right?

1291
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:02,320
 I'll let Steph answer that question.

1292
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,080
 Yeah, so those are my concerns, right?

1293
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,080
 Sure.

1294
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,080
 Any questions for me?

1295
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,360
 Yeah, I definitely, certainly understand your questions.

1296
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:17,040
 When we consider what we consider up here, which in this case is the zoning case, that's

1297
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:22,900
 what's before us today, we're not engineers up here, so a lot of the things that you're

1298
01:28:22,900 --> 01:28:30,720
 asking for absolutely have to come when engineering and their crew are looking at something specific

1299
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:31,720
 that's being built here.

1300
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:32,720
 Yeah.

1301
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,720
 It can't really be looked at ahead of time.

1302
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,600
 But you're making decisions before those decisions are here, right?

1303
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,640
 Well, we're making a zoning decision.

1304
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:38,640
 Correct.

1305
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,680
 That's going to affect this property or all of these properties in the future to come,

1306
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:44,680
 right?

1307
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,920
 That's what we are, and we're going to hope that perhaps with the parameters and the communication

1308
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,780
 and the discussion that's been done.

1309
01:28:52,780 --> 01:28:56,520
 Given the certain guidelines, and there's a lot of good language in those guidelines.

1310
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,680
 I read through a lot of it, right?

1311
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:03,800
 But what's to come of it if something does happen and it's not taken care of properly

1312
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,640
 and properties do flood, right?

1313
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,800
 Again, I'll let Steph answer that question, yes.

1314
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:15,760
 Well the other part of that question is, okay, so this is a picture of a detention pond and

1315
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,960
 the overflow from that detention pond.

1316
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:23,800
 So there's plans to potentially put a detention pond on this property that's being rezoned.

1317
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:24,800
 Where is that going to be?

1318
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,800
 How is it going to be located?

1319
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:36,560
 So when your engineers go to do the study, are any of the adjacent property owners notified

1320
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:45,960
 or anyone downstream of this creek notified of the study, the analysis, and the outcome?

1321
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:46,960
 That's a question.

1322
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:47,960
 Right.

1323
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,320
 You're going to have to let me bring staff up here and have them answer that.

1324
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,500
 Being a property owner that's going to be affected, I would like to know that once the

1325
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:59,040
 study is done, what the outcome of it is, what are the decisions being made that's going

1326
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,040
 to potentially affect my property?

1327
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,040
 Sure.

1328
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,040
 And I understand that.

1329
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,600
 Many of your questions may not be able to be answered at this time.

1330
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:10,680
 What is the problem with making a zoning decision before you know what's going to be built?

1331
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:11,680
 Okay.

1332
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,680
 I appreciate it.

1333
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:13,680
 Thank you for sharing your comments.

1334
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,040
 I'll see what kind of questions I can get answered for you.

1335
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,840
 Mia, do you want to handle that or Haley wants to handle that?

1336
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:20,840
 Yeah.

1337
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,320
 I'll answer to drainage concerns just a little bit.

1338
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,320
 Thank you.

1339
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:32,400
 Part of the study of the ESA is knowing what's going to be there and how the potential developments

1340
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,680
 might impact the ESA and might impact the areas around it.

1341
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:41,400
 One of the things that was talked about in the last meeting was possibly preventing or

1342
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:48,280
 prohibiting the opportunity for an alternative environmentally sensitive area plan.

1343
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:56,280
 But we did not go with that concept because in the end, once we have an idea of the development,

1344
01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:03,200
 how much non-permeable surfaces are going to be established on this site and how that

1345
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:11,240
 might impact the area around it, an alternative plan might actually lend itself to improved

1346
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,520
 conditions for the drainage and things like that in this area.

1347
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:22,640
 So I hope that speaks to it a little bit is that we'll assess it when we have the development

1348
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,180
 plan because we'll have the numbers to be able to assess exactly the impact that this

1349
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:31,760
 property would have on the drainage deal.

1350
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:36,200
 And then as far as just the existing environmentally sensitive area, any property owner at any

1351
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:43,440
 time can assess that and have a consultant help them with those existing conditions.

1352
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:44,440
 Okay.

1353
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:48,000
 Go ahead and see.

1354
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,560
 Regarding the drainage, just to add to Mia's comment.

1355
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,880
 So first of all, I am not a drainage engineer.

1356
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:55,880
 I'm not an engineer.

1357
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:56,880
 I'm a planner.

1358
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,240
 But I work with many drainage engineers and have a basic understanding of also the state

1359
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,000
 statute when it comes to runoff.

1360
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:09,720
 So we work with the development community and do a thorough evaluation of the civil

1361
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,000
 engineering plans that are submitted, including if there's any need for any downstream assessments

1362
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,040
 and specialized drainage studies.

1363
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:23,560
 The city has adopted criteria that we evaluate all developments based upon.

1364
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:30,460
 State law says that when properties are developed, the end result cannot be more water runoff

1365
01:32:30,460 --> 01:32:32,840
 than the pre-developed condition.

1366
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:39,240
 So in looking at this, I'm not familiar with your property and there's much of a natural

1367
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,560
 area that's there right now.

1368
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,860
 I don't know the rain event that transpired, so I can't speak to this detailed situation

1369
01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:46,240
 that you're presenting.

1370
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:52,200
 But what I can share with you is that we have folks that are trained on our team in the

1371
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:53,480
 profession.

1372
01:32:53,480 --> 01:33:00,080
 We have a gentleman on our staff that understands drainage and implications associated with

1373
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:05,840
 it, as well as a whole team of reviewers that we have access to specialized reviews if need

1374
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:06,840
 be.

1375
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,600
 So we take every development series that is built within our community.

1376
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:15,200
 We work very diligently to try and ensure that there are no increased impacts on adjoining

1377
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,920
 properties as a result of properties being developed.

1378
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:25,640
 In many instances, throughout the course of my career and working with civil engineers,

1379
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:32,600
 that when properties are developed, many times it results in improved drainage conditions.

1380
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:38,200
 Because right now the property is in its native state, there are no improvements on the property

1381
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:43,480
 to slow down any water that's coming off of it in its current state.

1382
01:33:43,480 --> 01:33:50,000
 But when properties are developed, then there are mechanisms and designs put in place to

1383
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:56,320
 slow the water down, and to be able to collect water if need be before it's discharged in

1384
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,120
 any downstream situations or on adjoining properties.

1385
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:04,400
 So again, we're also making sure that we're compliant with state statute, that we're not

1386
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:10,280
 allowing for any increased runoff that is higher than would have been the pre-developed

1387
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:11,280
 conditions.

1388
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:17,040
 Chair Ellis is correct, right now it's a zoning decision to determine the appropriateness

1389
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,560
 of the land use, just like with any requests that they have come before them.

1390
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,800
 The following steps, should zoning get approved, then is the applicant moving forward with

1391
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,840
 submitting zoning compliance plans, and then ultimately submitting their civil engineering

1392
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,300
 plans associated with that.

1393
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:38,600
 We also have some challenges associated with state law, in that we cannot require certain

1394
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:43,280
 development applications or certain studies to be submitted, even with the initial plat

1395
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:48,920
 that we have to follow, despite sometimes wanting to have those answers earlier on in

1396
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,800
 that approval sequence.

1397
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:56,440
 So I don't know if that gives you any level of assurance, but we appreciate you bringing

1398
01:34:56,440 --> 01:34:58,560
 this concern to our attention.

1399
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,880
 Thank you.

1400
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,880
 Commissioner Pruitt, you are?

1401
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:02,880
 Thank you, Chair.

1402
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:08,240
 Yeah, just a couple process procedure questions, so that everybody in the room understands

1403
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:13,500
 going forward what could happen if the site develops.

1404
01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:21,080
 I think I heard from Tina that the drainage assessment would be done at the time of the

1405
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,000
 civil engineering plans, is that correct?

1406
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,360
 Yeah, we're requiring the ESA field assessment to be done with the zoning compliance plan,

1407
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,440
 so if there are downstream calculations needed for that, that will be done at that time,

1408
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:39,840
 but I believe the broader answers will be there at civil engineering plans.

1409
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:45,760
 Okay, and I'm assuming the reason for that is that those civil engineering plans and

1410
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:57,400
 the ESA assessment is what defines where new impervious area is, and that sort of thing,

1411
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:58,400
 is that correct?

1412
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,400
 Correct.

1413
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:05,880
 At what time once you receive that civil engineering plan application, does the zoning on the property

1414
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,840
 have any bearing on the drainage assessment and what's done for the drainage, or is it

1415
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,560
 purely from a here's what we're building here perspective?

1416
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:13,560
 Good question.

1417
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:19,520
 The zoning does not, like Tina was saying, any development that comes in, whether it

1418
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,320
 stays in its current zoning or it moves to a light industrial, they will have to adhere

1419
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,760
 to those same state requirements as it relates to drainage.

1420
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,100
 Okay, thank you.

1421
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:36,000
 And lastly, going back to previous question of trees and everything, there's some terminology

1422
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:44,200
 we use that may not be common language, so can you describe the process between the tree

1423
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:52,000
 assessment to identifying the root ... Critical.

1424
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:59,960
 Zoning zone that I can't remember the term for right now, just describe the general flow

1425
01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:04,680
 of how those trees are protected during the permitting process, if you would.

1426
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,680
 Gotcha.

1427
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:09,320
 Yeah, so we'll require a tree preservation plan submitted with that zoning compliance

1428
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:18,080
 plan, and in that we require that the applicants go out and license, or they hire a licensed

1429
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:26,640
 arborist or landscape architect, go out, survey the trees that are on site, and that's taking

1430
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:32,400
 down the type of tree, the inches of the tree trunk, and the condition that the tree is

1431
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,840
 in, so healthy.

1432
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:39,720
 And then at that point, what we would do if the applicant is proposing a masonry wall,

1433
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:44,600
 we would ensure that it is located beyond what is labeled as healthy in the 50 feet

1434
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,240
 buffer.

1435
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:51,240
 And then also, that 50 feet buffer, even if they are not marked as healthy necessarily,

1436
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:56,060
 because that 50 foot buffer is their landscape buffer, the tree canopy would most likely

1437
01:37:56,060 --> 01:38:00,400
 still remain because they'd have to ... They get points for preserving trees, but it'd

1438
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,040
 have to be landscape, basically.

1439
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,040
 Thank you.

1440
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,880
 Thank you, Mio, appreciate it.

1441
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:16,680
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak?

1442
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,760
 Yep, come on down.

1443
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:21,760
 Glenn Mark Graff, 1800 Lakeview.

1444
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,760
 That video was my backyard.

1445
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:27,320
 Just want to give you one thing to think about.

1446
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:34,040
 I realize everybody does their best to plan and engineer all these things, but 20 years

1447
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:41,320
 ago, somebody got approval to rezone this for development, and this is the results of

1448
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,320
 their drainage planning.

1449
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,720
 So it doesn't always work, does it?

1450
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:53,560
 That's all I got to say.

1451
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:54,560
 Okay.

1452
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,760
 Thank you, appreciate it.

1453
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,680
 Is there anyone else wishing to speak on this?

1454
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:01,680
 Okay.

1455
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:07,320
 I'm going to go ahead and open the floor for discussion or motion.

1456
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,160
 Commissioner Cole?

1457
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:14,960
 I'll make a motion to approve.

1458
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:15,960
 Okay.

1459
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:16,960
 Commissioner Pruitt?

1460
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,920
 Yeah, I'll second.

1461
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:27,360
 I'm just sensitive to the concerns over drainage and that sort of thing, sensitive to the traffic

1462
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:28,480
 concerns.

1463
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:34,520
 In my opinion, the zoning here doesn't really change how much the drainage gets improved

1464
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,380
 or unimproved.

1465
01:39:37,380 --> 01:39:43,680
 I think honestly what has caused it to be increased drainage runoff is that we've expanded

1466
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,680
 380 from two lanes to it's about to be 12.

1467
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:53,660
 So that's a lot more impervious surface.

1468
01:39:53,660 --> 01:39:58,820
 The other thing is as we look at truck traffic and that sort of thing, certainly I think

1469
01:39:58,820 --> 01:40:04,760
 we need to consider that at the same time as access to 380 off of Lakeview Boulevard

1470
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,240
 changes.

1471
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:13,440
 I think that has a much greater potential to change the traffic on Black Road than what

1472
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:14,440
 this property does.

1473
01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:16,000
 So those are my thoughts.

1474
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,000
 Thank you.

1475
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,000
 Thank you.

1476
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,000
 Commissioner Billy Rail?

1477
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,000
 Thank you, Chair.

1478
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:25,320
 I want to thank the applicant and their team for doing the work to make sure they hear

1479
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,080
 the concerns from the community.

1480
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:32,760
 However, with that being said, due to environmental traffic and drainage concerns, I'll be voting

1481
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:33,760
 no.

1482
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:34,760
 Thank you.

1483
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:35,760
 Thanks.

1484
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:36,760
 Any other discussion?

1485
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,660
 Okay, we've got a first and a second for approval.

1486
01:40:40,660 --> 01:40:48,680
 I'll just thank everybody for being involved in this, thanking Amy and her team for engaging.

1487
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:56,520
 I think it's been difficult, but there have been compromises.

1488
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:03,800
 There's been a lot of really good discussion in research for this.

1489
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:08,880
 Before us is a zoning case, as Commissioner Pruitt pointed out, the area where this is

1490
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:09,880
 located.

1491
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:16,080
 We have to think about what makes sense for development of this.

1492
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:21,160
 We may not have all of the answers for current problems in the area, which aren't necessarily

1493
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:29,320
 related to this particular piece of land or what's before us.

1494
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:36,800
 Hopefully, if this land, if this gets approved, if this moves forward through city council,

1495
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:43,400
 if down the road this site does develop, hopefully it does make improvements as often does, as

1496
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:49,400
 Tina mentioned with drainage in the area.

1497
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:54,760
 I guess with that, I'll call for any more discussion.

1498
01:41:54,760 --> 01:42:07,320
 If not, let's go ahead and vote.

1499
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:12,280
 That motion will carry for one, and we'll move on next to city council.

1500
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,720
 What is the date on that, please?

1501
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,880
 Yes.

1502
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:22,200
 This is scheduled for the July 16th city council date.

1503
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:23,200
 July 16th?

1504
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:24,800
 If that's a Tuesday, I believe that is correct.

1505
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:25,800
 Okay.

1506
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:26,800
 Yes.

1507
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:27,800
 July 16th.

1508
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:28,800
 Okay.

1509
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:29,800
 Thank you very much.

1510
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,800
 Okay.

1511
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,840
 That will move us to our public hearings for this evening.

1512
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,960
 That is 5AZ240008.

1513
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:45,160
 I will invite Erin up for presentation and open the public hearing.

1514
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:54,680
 Erin Stanley, assistant planner.

1515
01:42:54,680 --> 01:43:00,960
 This is Z24-0008 Crow Billingsley Denton rezoning.

1516
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:08,080
 This is a request to rezone approximately 7.8 acres located south of US 380 and west

1517
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:15,320
 of North Mosh Branch Road from rural residential to light industrial.

1518
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,880
 The property is currently undeveloped and surrounded primarily by undeveloped property

1519
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,560
 and gas wells.

1520
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:27,320
 There is a small portion, I'll note, in the eastern section of the property that is unassessed

1521
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:35,160
 ESA right now and once it's developed, they would have to comply with all ESA regulations.

1522
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:39,880
 This request is consistent with the future land use map designating the area as light

1523
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,640
 industrial and industrial commerce.

1524
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:49,800
 The light industrial designation is primarily for light industrial land uses such as manufacturing,

1525
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:54,640
 assembling and warehousing and its associated supporting uses.

1526
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:59,360
 The industrial commerce designation is for both light industrial and heavy industrial

1527
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:00,440
 uses.

1528
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:05,200
 This is also consistent with the intent of the LI zoning district which would serve a

1529
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:13,320
 variety of light industrial and employment uses and supporting commercial uses and activities.

1530
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:18,920
 This request is consistent with the Denton Development Code criteria for approval as

1531
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:23,800
 well as the zoning specific criteria for approval.

1532
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:30,240
 It is also consistent with the future land use map and 2040 comprehensive plan and the

1533
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:36,000
 proposal would be consistent with the light industrial zoning district purpose and the

1534
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:41,240
 zoning is not expected to generate any significant adverse environmental infrastructure or fiscal

1535
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,960
 impacts.

1536
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,480
 Notifications were sent out.

1537
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:53,040
 They were posted online and in the newspaper and signs were posted on the property or along

1538
01:44:53,040 --> 01:45:00,480
 US 380 just north of the subject property on June 7th and notices were mailed within

1539
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:09,200
 200 feet to the surrounding property owners and 500 feet to residents.

1540
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:15,920
 We received responses in favor from the surrounding property totaling 76% in favor and the applicant

1541
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:20,680
 did make attempts to contact the adjacent property owners immediately surrounding the

1542
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:26,680
 property with no success and he is here to speak to that if you have any questions.

1543
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:31,120
 With that staff is recommending approval of the zoning change as it meets all of our criteria

1544
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,540
 and I will stand for any questions.

1545
01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:34,540
 Thank you Erin.

1546
01:45:34,540 --> 01:45:36,560
 Any questions for Erin?

1547
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:37,560
 No?

1548
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,560
 Okay.

1549
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:39,560
 Thank you.

1550
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:40,560
 This is a public hearing.

1551
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,760
 I don't have any cards in front of me for this item but is there anyone wishing to speak

1552
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,560
 on this item?

1553
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:46,560
 Okay.

1554
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:55,240
 I will go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for motion or discussion.

1555
01:45:55,240 --> 01:46:01,080
 Well, I will go ahead and make a motion for approval.

1556
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,200
 I'll Commissioner approve it?

1557
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,200
 Second.

1558
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:05,200
 Okay.

1559
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:06,200
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

1560
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,200
 Any discussion?

1561
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,200
 Okay.

1562
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:20,880
 Let's go ahead and vote please.

1563
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,360
 That motion carries 5-0.

1564
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:30,600
 That will bring us to our next public hearing item for this evening, it's 5B, DCA 240004.

1565
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,440
 Haley is here for presentation and I will open the public hearing.

1566
01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:36,440
 Good evening Chair, members of the commission.

1567
01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:38,720
 This is Gershki, Assistant Planning Director.

1568
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:43,960
 The item before you is Code Amendment DCA 24-4 for the Razor Ranch Overlay District

1569
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,300
 Ordinance Consolidation.

1570
01:46:47,300 --> 01:46:51,200
 The request before you this evening is an amendment to the Denton Development Code to

1571
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:56,240
 provide for the uses and development standards of Appendix A, which is a placeholder that's

1572
01:46:56,240 --> 01:47:00,600
 been in the code since 2019 for the Razor Ranch Overlay District.

1573
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:05,040
 Just a brief history, the district does encompass approximately 406 acres of land, you can see

1574
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,040
 it outlined in the two maps on your screen.

1575
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:13,880
 Covers land area north and south of Highway 380 between I-35 and Bonnie Bray.

1576
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:19,800
 The district as it is in its current state is based on the 2002 Denton Development Code,

1577
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:24,800
 makes references all throughout to various base zoning districts and standards within

1578
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,640
 the older version of our development code.

1579
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,120
 There are provisions for architecture, landscaping and signage contained within the district

1580
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:36,000
 as well as use provisions to ensure that it is a compatible mixed use development across

1581
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,080
 the 400 acre property.

1582
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:42,540
 As it is today, the land area is roughly 85 to 90% developed, but there are some remaining

1583
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:45,960
 parcels that could benefit from this consolidation.

1584
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:50,880
 Again, some brief history that we covered in work session, so I'll just run through

1585
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,040
 this quickly.

1586
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,360
 The Razor Ranch Overlay District did begin in the early 2000s.

1587
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:59,400
 It was first a set of deed restrictions that the property owners created, a version of

1588
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:04,620
 those were then adopted by the city as a zoning ordinance in 2007.

1589
01:48:04,620 --> 01:48:09,360
 The text of that code was housed, the regulatory text rather was housed within the 2002 code

1590
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:14,200
 itself, but there were multiple exhibits referenced throughout, exhibits A through H that covered

1591
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:18,520
 the architecture, landscaping, signage and various other standards that were actually

1592
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:23,360
 never housed within the code, so it was a very difficult ordinance for anyone to follow

1593
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,040
 if they were trying to inquire about developing property in Razor Ranch because they could

1594
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,880
 not locate the standards without contacting staff and being sent a list of ordinances.

1595
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:37,520
 There have been over 20 ordinances adopted for Razor Ranch since it was first created.

1596
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:41,840
 Those often just built upon each other, kind of band-aid fashion, never fully repealing

1597
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:46,080
 and replacing one another, just kind of cobbling things together and referring back to the

1598
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,560
 old ordinances as we went along so that many of those are still required to fully interpret

1599
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:55,200
 the district today, and many of those ordinances are only for certain sub-areas or even lots

1600
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,920
 within the development.

1601
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:02,600
 So in 2019 we anticipated this challenge, we left a placeholder in the code to someday

1602
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:07,760
 come back and adopt all of Razor Ranch into the 2019 Denton Development Code and bring

1603
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,980
 it up to our current standards as best we could while still honoring all of those use

1604
01:49:10,980 --> 01:49:14,520
 permissions and development regulations that had been created over time.

1605
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:20,720
 So you can see on the screen there those placeholders if you were to look in the code today.

1606
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,880
 So as I've mentioned, the intent of this is to adopt those regulations so that moving

1607
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:29,220
 forward we have one consolidated ordinance rather than 20 in place for Razor Ranch.

1608
01:49:29,220 --> 01:49:34,520
 We have brought forward portions of the 2002 code that are relied upon by the Razor Ranch

1609
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:35,520
 district.

1610
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:39,520
 So for example, if there's a land use definition that slightly differed between the 02 code

1611
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:43,880
 in 2019, we brought forward that old definition to ensure that nothing was lost for the district

1612
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,600
 and the uses that are there today.

1613
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:51,440
 And then everywhere possible we've clarified what from the 2019 DDC would apply.

1614
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:56,200
 So if you read through the text today you'd see anything not explicitly written in Appendix

1615
01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:01,960
 A will defer to the standards of the 2019 DDC moving forward.

1616
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:07,480
 So just running through some of the changes that are in your backup, the majority of the

1617
01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:10,560
 regulations, as I've mentioned, are not changing for anyone in Razor Ranch.

1618
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:15,720
 Our goal was not to change any use permissions or any development standards that have been

1619
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:20,460
 working effectively in place in Razor Ranch for almost 20 years.

1620
01:50:20,460 --> 01:50:21,920
 It's mostly reformatting.

1621
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,680
 If you look through it you'll see we've formatted it very similarly to the rest of the code.

1622
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:30,080
 So for example, rather than having each sub-district having a list of permitted uses, we now have

1623
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,200
 one permitted use table that mirrors what we have in the rest of the code.

1624
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:39,120
 Some of the sub-areas were renamed because they have acronyms attached to them that are

1625
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,200
 never defined within the overlay district itself.

1626
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,640
 So the South RR1 district will become the town center because that's what everyone knows

1627
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:46,640
 it as.

1628
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:51,080
 In the South RR2 we're renaming the South Commercial District, and that's primarily to avoid confusion

1629
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:55,040
 because currently there's RR1 and RR2, both North and South of 380.

1630
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,800
 So it gets a little confusing.

1631
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,360
 So we've renamed all of those for clarity to help identify where they are and what their

1632
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,000
 intent is.

1633
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:03,560
 With that, all of the maps have been updated.

1634
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:08,000
 So you can see on the screen the map on the top is the new, cleaner version of the zoning

1635
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:09,000
 map for Razor Ranch.

1636
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,280
 The one on the bottom of your screen is the older one that just had a lot of extraneous

1637
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,680
 information that wasn't necessary for the enforcement of the ordinance.

1638
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:21,080
 So we're trying to clean all those things up moving forward.

1639
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:25,200
 One change that has come about as a result of state legislation is that building materials

1640
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:30,160
 that were previously able to be strictly enforced within Razor Ranch, we've now just termed

1641
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,160
 as preferences.

1642
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,240
 So it will list throughout the architectural standards these are the preferred materials

1643
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:38,880
 for Razor Ranch to help encourage that consistency moving forward, but since we can no longer

1644
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,520
 regulate that, we struck the strict language that was previously there.

1645
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,200
 And then for things that have been completed, such as infrastructure that was called out

1646
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,520
 in there, we've just noted that that work has been completed moving forward so that

1647
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:53,640
 it's no longer listed as something that needs to be done.

1648
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:57,640
 As I mentioned in work session, there is one substantive change to the content of the district

1649
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,960
 and that is that the owners of the South Campus have requested an increase in the allowed

1650
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,660
 multifamily units.

1651
01:52:03,660 --> 01:52:07,360
 So rather than adopting this and then promptly amending it, we agree to staff, yes, we think

1652
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:11,400
 this is a logical request, we'll roll this in to this effort moving forward.

1653
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:17,120
 So that change would be from a total of 2,000 multifamily units to 2,250.

1654
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:22,920
 When the district was first adopted, they were allocated 1,750 units on the South Campus.

1655
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:27,080
 Over time, as it has developed, there's been identified a need for more density on that

1656
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:32,640
 campus to truly support the commercial development with an ample number of residents in the area.

1657
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:37,280
 So where it stands today, we've made one increase back in 2021, they're asking for

1658
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,160
 a second increase.

1659
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:43,320
 In reality, I don't anticipate that with the available lots, they'll use all of those units,

1660
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:47,960
 but we wanted to allow them some flexibility moving forward in case plans change, they're

1661
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:54,120
 able to fit more units on some of the remaining parcels than what they anticipate.

1662
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,680
 Staff is recommending approval of this.

1663
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:59,480
 I know I didn't go into a whole lot of detail on a lot of this, but I think you all are

1664
01:52:59,480 --> 01:53:03,480
 relatively familiar with Razor Ranch, but I do have the standards handy if we need to

1665
01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:06,000
 look at anything more in more detail.

1666
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,440
 Great.

1667
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:08,440
 Thank you, Haley.

1668
01:53:08,440 --> 01:53:10,680
 Any questions at the moment?

1669
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,080
 Okay.

1670
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,360
 Thank you.

1671
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:14,520
 This is a public hearing.

1672
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,600
 I don't have any cards in front of me, but is there anyone wishing to speak on this item?

1673
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:19,600
 Okay.

1674
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:26,440
 With that, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for motion or discussion.

1675
01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:27,440
 Commissioner Villarreal.

1676
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:30,800
 Move approval of the recommendation of the city council.

1677
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:31,800
 Commissioner Cole.

1678
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:32,800
 Second.

1679
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:33,800
 Okay.

1680
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:34,800
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

1681
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:35,800
 Any discussion?

1682
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:36,800
 Okay.

1683
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:37,800
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

1684
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:38,800
 I'll just say I'm so glad to see this.

1685
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:44,880
 It has been a long time coming, and this is going to make it just so much prettier in

1686
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:45,880
 the development code.

1687
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:46,880
 Oh, my gosh.

1688
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:47,880
 It's -- yeah.

1689
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:48,880
 Well done.

1690
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,000
 I know you had to help, I think, with some consultants on this, but, yeah.

1691
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,680
 So thank them, too, because, yeah, it's good, yeah.

1692
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:56,880
 Very happy to see it.

1693
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:57,880
 Okay.

1694
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,800
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

1695
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:00,800
 Any discussion?

1696
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:01,800
 Okay.

1697
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:10,600
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

1698
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,320
 That motion carries 5-0.

1699
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:18,640
 That'll take us to our planning and zoning matrix, and Tina, you have the floor.

1700
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,560
 Thank you.

1701
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:32,680
 I can assure you probably nobody is more happy than the staff is on that razor-range consolidation,

1702
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:33,680
 especially Mia.

1703
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:37,720
 So with respect to the matrix, there were no changes made to that, so -- and nothing

1704
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:42,920
 requested from the previous planning and zoning commission meeting.

1705
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:47,520
 Items that went to council since your last meeting, if you recall, the vet clinic that

1706
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:53,200
 was at Teasley in Pennsylvania, zoning case study had come forth -- or, excuse me, a specific

1707
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,200
 use permit.

1708
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:59,200
 So that was approved by city council, and then also there was a plan development amendment.

1709
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:04,520
 Mia worked on this for a gas station convenience store, and I think Best Barbecue, if members

1710
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:09,360
 searched me correctly, from the applicant at Vintage and 35W.

1711
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:13,800
 That PD amendment for the development plan, that was also approved by city council.

1712
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,560
 And then lastly, we also had the mobility plan amendment related to the Windsor extension,

1713
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:23,800
 and that was also approved by council.

1714
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:27,760
 Given our great conversation that we had this evening with respect to the southeast area

1715
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:32,280
 plan, we are moving forward with the adoption on that, and I know Mia and Julie spoke to

1716
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:33,480
 those dates.

1717
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:38,880
 For your special called meeting on the 17th, our plan is to have a 5 o'clock start.

1718
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,840
 However, if we do need to have an earlier start, we will definitely let you know.

1719
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:47,800
 We're still pulling together materials related to that, and so -- but we'll try to make -- we'll

1720
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,720
 try to make sure we respect that 5 o'clock start time in case there needs to be any discussion

1721
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,960
 in the work session.

1722
01:55:53,960 --> 01:56:00,320
 Don't forget, also, we still have your regular called meeting on the 24th as well, so make

1723
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,520
 sure you keep that one on your calendar.

1724
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:08,720
 Otherwise, that -- oh, if I could, back to that PD amendment.

1725
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,240
 Since there was some discussion regarding the access, following the Planning and Zoning

1726
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,800
 Commission's recommendation for approval on that particular project, the applicant requested

1727
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:20,480
 to have a little more relief, really, associated with one of the conditions that we had with

1728
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:25,080
 respect to the access, the emergency access connection.

1729
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:30,080
 He still wanted to have an opportunity to potentially have further discussion with TxDOT,

1730
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:36,280
 possibly modifying the timing of when a full directional access could occur for that property.

1731
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:40,800
 Should TxDOT allow for it prior to the frontage roads being constructed?

1732
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,800
 And so we were in agreement with it, so we did modify that condition.

1733
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:48,540
 We felt that it did not affect the commission's recommendation, but if you were following

1734
01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:53,480
 that case and you happened to notice, hey, that condition was worded slightly different,

1735
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:54,480
 there's a reason why.

1736
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:01,760
 So at the end of the day, it's -- whatever connections happen to any future frontage roads

1737
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:06,480
 or the existing ramp that's there today all require TxDOT approval.

1738
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,080
 Nothing moves forward with connections to their roadways without having their approval.

1739
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:13,220
 So that part remains unchanged.

1740
01:57:13,220 --> 01:57:17,440
 It helps give some flexibility associated with timing.

1741
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:18,960
 And that concludes my report.

1742
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:19,960
 >> Okay.

1743
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:20,960
 Thank you.

1744
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,840
 Is there anything to add to the matrix?

1745
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,160
 Okay.

1746
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:26,880
 Any concluding items?

1747
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:27,880
 Okay.

1748
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:32,120
 With that, I'll go ahead and adjourn us at 7.32 p.m.

1749
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:33,000
 Thank you very much, everyone.