Thank you very much.
>> It's 9 o'clock and we have a
quorum, so we are called to
order the public utilities board
for the city of Denton on Monday,
May 6th, 2024.
The first item is presentations
from members of the public.
We didn't have anybody wish to
speak.
Okay.
Then it's the consent agenda.
Does any board member wish to
speak?
>> No, I don't wish to speak.
>> Then we have a motion to
approve items A, C, D, A, C,
and D.
>> So moved.
>> Thank you.
Thomas in second.
All in favor say aye.
>> Aye.
>> Carries.
Okay.
Item B.
>> I have a motion to approve
items A, C, D, A, C, and D.
>> So moved.
>> Thank you.
Thomas in second.
All in favor say aye.
We're following that process of
the full cost modeling through
every GMP and then we bring you
the final GMP price.
Again, we still have an off ramp
through the CMAR process to
where if we cannot agree upon a
final number for the GMP, we can
remove that portion from their
scope and go and advertise it as
a competitive sealed proposal.
And it becomes a separate
standalone project on its own.
Have you done that?
Is that correct?
>> Yes, it is.
We have been able to negotiate a
price with Sunt and then with
McCarthy on our first one.
>> On the slide, I think you
have the wrong year for the GMP
number 2.
>> You are correct.
>> You're taking it to council
tomorrow.
>> It is 2024.
Sorry about that.
>> Throw somebody off.
>> We'll get that fixed.
>> I believe we have 120 or so
roughly segments in this
package.
The first one had 14 segments.
They were longer segments.
This one had primarily all the
work within UNT.
Another 50 and then we'll have
approximately another 50 coming
forward in package 3.
That's more focused north of
kind of the Oak Hickory area in
the residential neighborhood
between 380 and Oak Hickory.
>> I'm just looking at that map.
Are these approximately
equal-sized?
>> So far, we're actually
expecting our 30% cost model for
that package 3 here in the next
week.
Early conversations is we're
going to be near that $40
million mark once again on
package 3.
It is the dashed lines that you
can see there on the map.
>> In the past, whenever we've
been working with the DME, we
were asked to look at where the
sewer, where the water and where
the streets are.
Here you just have there's
something happening on the red.
>> Correct.
So we were asked to consolidate
the graphics because they got so
messy with the size of these
projects.
They kind of just turned into
brown lines with the amount of
work we were doing.
And so we're going to continue
to do that.
And we're going to include
streetlight conduits, pull boxes
and stuff for them to come in
right after our project and
install the street lighting
component.
>> And of course, UNT area,
major pedestrian, it probably
already has sidewalks, so you're
really just looking at the ramps
and the improvements.
>> Absolutely.
It's really just on the sidewalk
piece.
And not only that for
construction, but how to route
students through there while
we're constructing over the next
two years.
>> Of course, package 3, it also
runs past future middle school,
future elementary school, so
there's going to be a lot more
sidewalks.
Thank you.
>> Some of those, the package --
I'm sorry.
You perked my interest when
you were talking about sewer and
wastewater and such.
Some of those streets, the sewer
lines are not at the street,
they're in the back.
And so would that entail moving
them to the street where you're
doing that work or are you going
to do the improvements where the
sewer lines are now?
>> Yeah, so great question.
We did evaluate that.
We evaluated all that you need
to bring it around the house and
get it out.
We did evaluate several of these
neighborhoods for water service
replacement, and when it came
down to it, looking at it, water
distribution gave us the
direction that it was kind of
cost prohibitive at this point
with other needs within their CIP.
And so we do have infrastructure,
new infrastructure going in that
would allow for future tie-ins if
they wanted to do that.
But we don't have that.
So they elected not to include
it.
>> So you'll come back another
day and we'll talk?
>> If that's a direction that
they choose to go, yes, sir.
But currently from our
understanding, the areas that had
the mains in the back did not
have high break rates or things
that were making them condition
based replacements.
So we're not going to discuss
that themselves, but it's quite
interesting.
>> Any further questions?
>> Yeah.
So remind me, is the inspection
being outsourced on this project?
>> Yeah.
So for the 2019 bond program, we
do have city of Denton inspectors.
We also have consor engineering
that's over all of the 2019 bond
program.
>> Is that in this budget?
>> Yes, that's correct.
>> So we're not going to discuss
that project or that contract
back in 2021.
>> Right.
So the next question was
something and I was listening to
your answer, sorry.
Oh, like the DME or any other
franchise, franchise utility
shouldn't cost you anything if
they're relocating.
But is DME cost in there as well?
>> That is correct.
>> So they get their markup on
that cost as well?
>> Correct.
Any general condition cost or
anything that's labeled cost of
the work, they get their 5.25%
markup on.
And so that all totals there to
that construction fee of just
over $1.8 million.
That's based off of all general
conditions cost and then that
cost of the work.
>> Okay.
>> But they are in charge of
coordinating all that?
>> 100%.
So sun alone has a project
manager, a couple superintendents
and I believe three project
engineers, a scheduler, and then
a two-person maintenance staff
that goes around and does
sweeping, signage inspections.
All of that is kind of baked
into just the CMARC's
responsibility.
And then if they have a
project manager, they're the
ones that do that.
And then we have maintenance
assistant superintendents that
are bid through that work
package.
>> I'm sorry.
So what do you guys do?
>> Hopefully just answer phone
calls and tell the good stories
about how we complete it on time
and on budget.
>> So they handle all the PR as
well?
Okay.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
Any further questions?
Do we have a motion to approve
item C?
>> So moved.
>> Mr. Rybeck moved.
Do we have a second?
>> Second.
>> Thank you.
Thomas Pluck.
All in favor say aye.
>> Aye.
>> Next item, management reports.
>> Madam Chair, Board, really no
changes to the reports that we
provide to you in the past on
the future agenda items and new
business action items are still
the same items that we've had
over the last couple of meetings.
But happy to answer any
questions you have on that or
there's some other item that
you'd like to add.
>> Questions?
Okay.
All right.
Next item.
Does any board member wish to
say something to the public or
add something to a future agenda
item?
I see none.
It is 941.
Do we have a motion to adjourn?