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 and good morning everyone welcome to the mobility committee we've determined that

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 a quorum is present and we're going to convene in a regular meeting today

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 Wednesday April 24 10 a.m. in the council work session room first thing on the

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 agenda is the citizens comments on the agenda items we have any comments that

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 have been coming in okay thank you number two items for individual

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 consideration MC 24 - zero zero eight consider approval of the minutes of

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 March 27 2024 can we get a motion for approval move to appear the minutes okay

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 we have most approved we have second all in favor you know you know okay all

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 right thank you so that's unanimous go on to be MC 24 there's zero zero nine

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 receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the city of didn't

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 transportation mobility project status reports good morning good morning how

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 y'all today I'm Barry heard with ITS it's been a few months as I've been here

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 I'm taking John's place today to give the report I was trying to remember the

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 last time I was here I think was October somewhere in that time frame and it was

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 a good report and this report's got a couple of good items also so as we get

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 to those I'll I'll be sure we we bring those to everyone's attention are you

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 aware of the first page with all the project information let's go back to

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 the page yes yes ma'am so those are all the page are all the projects and the

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 costs associated with those projects exactly all right there's a lot of

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 projects going on at the same time and these first two projects are really the

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 ones that are that have a lot of good news okay so on the first project 535

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 north let me see if I can zoom this out just a little bit here okay there's this

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 project or this page encompasses four projects ones currently under

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 construction the one in the purple color the 76 project one nine five two seventy

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 six that's at the four fifty five thirty five interchange and Sanger it's

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 approximately fifty percent complete approaching fifty percent the other

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 three projects that are from us seventy seven north three double oh two are all

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 approaching the hundred percent plans completion so they're all within the

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 the scheduled letting windows the first one the 81 from view road south to where

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 the interchange ends at four fifty five is scheduled for letting in December

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 twenty twenty four and this page just denotes all the utilities that are

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 moving as you know they've been moving from UNT Boulevard all the way to three

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 double two double oh two four for a while and for the sake of the viewers

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 the yellow highlights that has changed for the better yes there's the changes

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 are denoted in yellow you can see unlike on the first one Atmos is expected to be

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 clear by August Brazos electric this is for this the the first project the 74

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 that's currently under construction all right thank you okay then this is really

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 the the biggest news the merge project 35 e 35 w marriage this project led on

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 April 4th and the project was over cost the estimated cost I don't know if you've

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 kept up with the recent cost increase and as a recent over the past three to

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 four years construction costs have almost doubled nationwide and across the

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 state with text dot text dot has kept their cost to the eighty to ninety

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 percent range of that doubling so I think we've done a good job or text dot

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 has of staying below the national average but this project let for five

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 hundred eighty eight million seven hundred eighty thousand eight hundred

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 forty one dollars to SEMA construction was the low bidder there were two bidders

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 on the project like I said it was over and the amount it was over was 18%

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 there's 56 months of barricade almost approaching five years and that is to to

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 project completion we have a question yes sir so I the we didn't put the

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 estimated construction costs in until more recently in terms of these reports

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 but I know that the the quotes and stuff had to have the engineers estimates and

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 I guess my question is more knowing knowing the scope of how the trends are

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 and how construction costs are more and and their supply chain issues and what

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 not what was the biggest thing in the in the 18% overage it was really across

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 spread across all the items and that's what I was saying earlier construction

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 costs as far as the inflation have not stabilized yet and that's what we're

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 seeing across all the projects is more of a increased cost across across the

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 board so tech start has tried to keep up with this as best they can and I was

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 aware that they had updated their estimates ongoing you know every three

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 months and that's what we're doing on our other projects too but even then

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 this was such a large project that and there were only two bidders that the

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 that the project went over to that amount roughly since projects are going

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 up from my estimation five to six percent every every few months that's

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 then that's what it's been for for a while now but if I can follow up just

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 for just for my own understanding of things in general for tech stock when

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 when will they tap the brakes when when the overruns well what is there a

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 threshold every every project has so much of this that's already done they

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 can't really stop every project has a recommendation of whether you can award

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 or rebid or pull the project back or save cost that's happened on for

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 example I 30 I 30 in Rockwell County the project let it was not awarded they

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 pulled some items out to be constructed later and and relet the project the

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 decision was made by the district on this project to get to move forward with

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 the award I appreciate that thing I have a general generalized question and my

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 question is is that when these companies come out and be it for these types of

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 large amount projects do we know anything about their profitability status

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 is there like a generalized concept of what you know type of profit besides of

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 the company they have to have a specific bonding capacity that they have to meet

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 to bid on the project as far as the profit the profit is spreaded they

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 figured different ways when they do their estimation so as far as an actual cost

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 of what that profit is going to be no not ahead of time it's just the the project

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 is going to go to the low bidder yeah as far as with concern any other questions

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 all right 35 e and Mayhill this project is being designed by LTRA it's been

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 under under design for a while the ready to let date is November of 2024 with a

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 scheduled let date of June 2025 the design is complete they the utilities

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 are being moved and that's what's driving the letting date I must say that's

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 my favorite project I love that project I just love driving by there believe it

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 or not before I came to ITS I worked at LTRA and I worked a little bit on this

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 project but there is a lot of as you can see at the bottom there there's a lot of

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 with a hospital and everything there's there's a lot of communications fiber

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 lines there and that's what's all the splicing is what takes a while to get

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 that moved out of the way

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 35 W frontage roads this project is an acquisition of right away process

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 expected to be complete later in the fall of this year the plans are

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 approaching 95 percent completion the 100 percent plans expected by the end of

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 the year and with a ready-to-let of September of 2025

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 380 at 377 this is another good good report here they expected the

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 substantial completion is complete and the construction is expected to be

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 finalized with that means the district acceptance in May of 2024 so it is

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 basically in punch list the stage right now

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 and there's no more expected lane closers if they are they're going to be

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 too minimal during the day compared to what they have been yes let me go back

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 here yeah again kind of feel I'll see it on what we were doing over there on the

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 north they were installing the barrier and the pedestrian elements along the

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 side and so I don't know if you notice they've got their small barrier wall

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 that separates the pedestrians and then the pedestrian railing on the outside

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 to have a shared use path and as well as separate traffic for safety with the

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 raised mediums as similar to to what Colin has done you know on their on

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 their side now this section in the middle is going through the same same

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 process okay loop 288 West frontage roads this project is expected with 100

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 percent compliance 100 percent plans to be complete in December of 2024 there's

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 a environmental reeval right now that's expected to be approved this month for

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 the John Payne Underwood area that 2449 we've got 10 parcels in ED nine are in

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 possession so roughly halfway through but the parcels in ED are are moving

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 along to the stage now that I think they're going to come in to being

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 complete and in the next you know a few months yes okay so I noticed that the

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 environmental is popped on a couple of times as they've done some reevaluation

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 is there is there a particular thing that's that's tripping them up that

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 they're they're paying attention to the right of this is not a reeval for the

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 entire section this is just for this isolated area and it has to do with a

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 development and right away in that area specifically and access so there's not

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 necessarily any large reeval along the whole process it's just more of a

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 formality even though it's a formality it still takes you know in roughly four

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 to five months to get that complete so this started I guess sometime if I

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 remember right November December to look at that area again thank you a question

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 yes it says for John Payne Road extension approval is expected where is

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 John Payne Road up in that area it's right at it's right here in this area

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 where 2449 comes in and we've been working with the city and the developer

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 to to make sure the access is correct and there's a water tower in that area

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 that we're trying to to make sure the access is okay provided I can't remember

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 it was a water tower electric but I think it's like yes electric sorry thank

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 you okay moving on to the loop 288 380 project this project we've had a public

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 meeting previously estimated cost of construction on this project is nine

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 hundred twenty two million this is a project that that will add capacity to

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 the loop as well as provide a connector from 380 to the proposed loop I just

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 leave it there do you have any questions yeah okay yeah the last meeting last

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 couple meetings I've been gently pushing for for whatever spider webs and fairy

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 wings alignments that we have I don't I don't care that they're they're ephemeral

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 I don't care that there's 300 of them for for this or in the neck in the

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 future items for the outer loop but I would like to see those if at all well

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 to the I'm gonna stop saying if at all possible I'll just end at the sense I

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 I will add I have one that I can share at least and kind of walk through the

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 group we're not ready to publish anything text artists is refining some

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 of those and we're gonna have it for a public meeting so happy to share after

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 the meeting and kind of walk through what that looks like and I appreciate

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 that I I mean so I understand we have sort of semi to meeting members of the

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 public sort of but at the same token most of us here have had feedback from

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 the community and and getting ahead of some of that feedback and aligning with

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 the alignments as it were that's very recursive but we're happy we're happy to

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 do that they are they are hearing what the community is saying they are

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 listening to the feedback and they have provided changes that we like so I think

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 it's very fruitful I think people will be happy and and so we can kind of walk

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 through where that's at they're still working through some heights on bridges

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 and whether it is completely possible so we don't want to put something out there

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 to the public ie publish in this meeting that's going to demonstrate something

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 that is not possible to do so I'm absolutely happy to share it with the

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 entire committee just it isn't a document that I can share because it

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 doesn't belong to me whatever vehicle that you you have available to you to

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 share with us I think absolutely well thank you and one of the most one of the

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 things we're doing that's to tag on to a little bit what Scott was saying is the

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 the area closer to the 380 connection making sure that clearances we've had

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 some comments back from DME making sure the clearance is vertical and

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 horizontal and fit so that's like he was saying that getting everything just

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 right to where to see if it's viable for presentation I think's where we're at

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 no I appreciate that it's I mean there's a lot going on in that Northeast

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 that I think that's why the community has a lot of heartburn because there is

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 so much going on in that corner and it has been the redesigns or multiple

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 designs have attempted to to minimize any relocation or impacts as possible

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 but we also have to keep in mind that I'm just going to say what maybe

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 somebody else other folks are thinking we're just have to be reminded I'll

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 remind the community that when we start taking on these projects and at the very

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 beginning phase is a bit scary because we you know have our you know not in my

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 backyard type syndrome thing that goes on in the world so I want us to when we

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 received when we receive what we need to receive the I want to be trusting that

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 everyone has done the very best they could exactly so you know we start

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 getting a lot of noise at the beginning of the projects it it doesn't progress

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 the project any faster but it probably actually you know slows it down but of

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 course everybody has their their reasoning so there's a lot of yellow up

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 move forward and that's what I appreciate about it anybody else have

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 any other comments all right thank you I just like to say one thing to tag on the

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 way you were saying is the process of planning that for the DFW region region

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 and Denton County is is as good or better as anywhere in the state and then

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 I think you're right it does maybe it takes you know a few months longer to

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 get the right answer but that's what everyone on the team it's a concerted

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 effort between tech stop the cities ITS the everyone involved to make the right

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 decisions and then again that's why it takes so long for things to get done well

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 construction more than design for a long time and then even the construction

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 there's issues that come up that that caused some inefficiencies or delays

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 there also so okay the Bonnie Bray segment 7 this product this was added to

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 the will be part of the schematic on the on the previous project FM 1515 Airport

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 Road and the consultants working on the final plans final design is expected next

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 month and and then at that point it'll be ready to let the rate to let date is

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 June of 2025 based on utilities utility clearances I'm sorry yes you have a

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 question there's not a lot of wiggle room right there do we don't expect an

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 alignment that's very different than what we see right no it's following the

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 existing alignment just phasing it in to add the add the additional lane and some

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 turn lanes I appreciate that thank you

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 okay FM 1173 this project is north of Denton or the north Denton area from US

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 77 new location approximately halfway and then ties into the existing 1173 to

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 go through the city of crime and end at FM 156 the hundred percent plans are

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 expected in November of 2024 and right now the utilities are getting underway

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 with their relocations they are sorry I'm sorry show us where that's on there

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 can you show us where I know there's a Hopkins Road do you know where the

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 Dollar General is right there that's Hopkins Road so there has been

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 historically a drainage issue there and that parking lot floods and even floods

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 the store sometimes so I guess there was some communication with the city of

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 provide for that tie-in so that was going to change some of the drainage

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 considering the Hopkins Road Hopkins Road realignment but that's that's no

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 longer on the table okay the outer loop so the outer loop is in the preliminary

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 design phases this is a huge project 1.5 billion dollar project it's a lot of

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 environmental studies and alignment alternatives that are going on right

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 now so the consultant LGA has I think there's we're net down to ten different

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 the fall so working with I'm sorry yes the question about the next public

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 meeting okay so since this has been looked at and re looked at and realigned

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 and you know ten times we're hearing right now another public meeting is that

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 public meeting going to be as valuable as the first meeting I mean how does that

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 how do you yes there's a process that as you know even with the loop you go down

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 and you start with various alignments and you narrow those down there those

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 down there those down the next public involvement will be down to just a few

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 alignments okay two to three typically okay so our variations of those okay so

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 the public meetings are of course very important and then you say you got you

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 done the ten alignments possibilities and you're gonna have another public

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 meeting and you're hoping to narrow that down to maybe a couple of possibilities

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 yeah and at that point there will be a final alignment determined at the

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 schematic level and then the environmental process through there and

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 this follows the NEPA process so that the project will be eligible for federal

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 funding put that much money involved same same I alluded to the same comment

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 I even if there are 300 alignments I'd still like to have access to to whatever

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 we can get to the committee if that's possible and so I'll just leave that one

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 there there there is again even you know this is just north of that previous

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 region but there's is a real tight fit we know the core the core is really

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 limiting what what they'll let happen and that's really affecting the

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 alignments but there's there's even more you know activity than then these this

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 alphabet soup that's listed here for for LJ was an LGA to coordinate with it

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 there's there's there's more going on there that will probably end up impacting

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 that and I you know I don't want to jump the gun too much but it you know there's

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 there's a lot of ducks to get in a row and it's it's making me nervous as well

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 so I you know maybe maybe I'm the one that needs to be calmed so I can calm

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 others don't you nod your head at me chair but but that is sort of it is yeah

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 there's a lot going on to make sure you follow the right process yes there's

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 some level of nervousness on all of our parts I'd go through this and you know

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 on all of our projects to you know it's well there's just to mention the other

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 agencies that are involved there's the Corps of Engineers because we're

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 crossing the green belt there's text dot damn and and the cog as well as all the

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 cities and and the county thank you anybody else Christine let's see here

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 okay Elman Locust this is our other good news I guess and this first line in the

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 yellow the the and I don't know if y'all talked about this at the last meeting or

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 not but the turn back memo was approved by the Transportation Commission I

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 don't know so that's very very good news so I guess the overlay and the

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 improvements that tech start are doing are scheduled to start in the next week

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 or so oh my gosh so it's a very very ending completion here between that and

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 they merged those those are very good very good news I was thinking back there

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 were seven area engineers that were trying to take this off system through

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 the years and two of them are no longer with us that's how long it has taken so

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 and I was one of them but I wasn't I wasn't there very long you know that's

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 probably gonna make probably about 75 80% of all didn't I so happy yes agree all

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 right that's the end of the report unless y'all have anybody has anything

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 else anybody have anything else all right thank you very much appreciate it

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 thank you okay we're gonna move on to see MC to for that zero one zero

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 receiver report and hold a discussion regarding the city of didn't staff

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 updates in the transportation services engineering capital projects departments

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 including the bicycle pedestrians senior planner and city engineer general

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 manager of capital projects thank you so I don't have a presentation for you

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 today but just wanted to give you an overview I know you had asked last time

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 what's happening with the vacant positions the we have eliminated the

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 general manager of capital projects position just did not feel like we needed

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 the position any longer due to some operational efficiencies that we found

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 with capital projects engineering so Brett bourgeois has been named the city

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 engineer so I want to congratulate him on his new role and he will be reporting

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 now up through development services so to Scott McDonald and working with his

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 team obviously still working with capital projects just a different

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 reporting function and then still have Trevor crane is our director of capital

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 projects as well as Ethan Cox is our director of public works so both of

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 those directors will be reporting to me directly and then wanted to get let you

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 know the bicycle and pedestrian senior planner we have made an offer we're

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 still waiting to hear if they're accepting it so fingers crossed for that

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 but hoping to have that position filled very quickly but I'm happy to take any

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 questions that you have about this is the updated org chart I did want to let

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 you know this org chart does not include the interim police chief reporting to

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 the city manager so off off topic for this conversation but just wanted to

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 let you know okay so you're acknowledging that the the interim police

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 chief will report directly to the city manager yes yes but other than that the

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 the general manager position has been eliminated and now capital projects and

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 public works will be reporting to me directly okay thank you very much so

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 we'll move on to DMC to four days zero one two receiver report and hold

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 discussion regarding to the proposed fiscal year 2024 didn't count a

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 transportation authority transportation reinvestment program which is called

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 trip on the funding application good morning chair committee members for

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 hard but transportation services division DCTA provides financial

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 assistance to DCTA members cities for transit supportive projects consistent

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 with their long-range service plan budget equals 15 percent of DCT is net

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 available fund balance from the previous fiscal year and project eligibility

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 criteria include criterion include located the project should be located

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 within primarily within the DCTA service area and then also in the city

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 boundaries and city jurisdiction and near near to the a train station but

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 these are not the final eligible eligibility criteria there are other as

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 well as we go in into the analysis part where you know we tie it to pedestrian

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 safety accessibility walkability and now other micro mobility user pieces as well

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 this is tabulated list of projects that we are proposing this year based on our

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 analysis on walkability and accessibility and yes and I will go into

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 details of these projects yeah so I'm trying to zoom it in but yeah so maybe

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 I'll just go to the projects individual projects and then we could I will share

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 more details we did analyses on these projects based on routes and stops and

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 goes on located nodes on-demand service nodes and walkability part and

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 accessibility part starting with our first part proposed project is McKinney

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 Avenue from Carroll Street to loop 288 we are requesting 1.85 million dollars

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 for this project and this will include multimodal enhancements to this corridor

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 this is not limited to only bike lanes or multi-use paths but we are looking at

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 holistically to you know the corridor assuming that there are pedestrian

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 safety issues because imagine when pedestrians are reaching out to these

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 bus stops or goes on nodes they have to traverse to sidewalks they have to come

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 from their you know first mile and last and reach to last mile so we are covering

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 that aspect as well and it's not just just the sidewalk of it okay and it's

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 not just a sidewalk of sidewalk only but we are looking at all factors that would

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 be included in this on this corridor yes hold on just let me let me note

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 something here um be sure and let me know when you are ready to speak so I

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 can kind of keep tabs on all of that instead of going direct all right thank

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 you so what was your question it's on you don't have to do anything so the

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 picture here shows from Woodrow to 288 but the text description shows Carol to

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 88 just clarification on that well so you know the corridor is as I said that

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 larger little bit larger in definition and then we are going to audit this

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 area and then we'll be able to finalize exact exact location for this but we

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 will amend that with the final project extents as we audit this completely I

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 have a question yes now we we've already witnessed Woodrow being upgraded or you

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 know new a new road including the utilities does these funds include that

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 upgrade let's say between Bell and Woodrow it's a nice new fresh upgrade

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 there so we are going to look at the Woodrow project as well Woodrow Lane if

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 you are specifically asking about Woodrow Lane yeah McKinney Street

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 between Bell and Woodrow yes we will look into that aspect as well if it is

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 if any segment of the road is touching McKinney yeah we will and then

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 specifically if there is a go-zone node or a bus stop we would use a buffer of

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 well we will decide a buffer based on the location of course it depends if it

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 is a commercial or multifamily development we will look into those

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 segments as well so I'll go to the next project which is north-south Woodrow Lane

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 I had a question yes I'm sorry yes it's just popping into my head I appreciate

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 your your understanding of that part but I was wanting to clarify what is an on

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 street path okay so on-street path is a multi-use path in general definition but

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 again it is context sensitive when we say on-street path it is context

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 sensitive in some cases on-street path would be just for a specific use maybe

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 pedestrian won't be allowed because if the speed is really high in other cases

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 and and the buffer is not present on the on the path and if the buffer is present

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 and and the speeds are not much then it could be a full full scape multi-use path

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 where it could include pedestrian it could include include separated bike

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 lanes and could also I've seen other cases where it includes micro mobility

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 users as well so it is dependent on what the location is okay so an example would

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 be the Oakland path over there yes Oakland Parkway Park Parkway Parkland

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 Parkway Parkway so multi-use paths are highly context sensitive especially if

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 they are on-street because high speed segments should not have any pedestrian

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 users or or or even bike users for safety aspects so that's just a

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 generalized statement that doesn't necessarily mean anything to this

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 particular project right here right what we so first of all of these proposed

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 projects even though we did preliminary audit yeah we saw potential for segments

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 there are segments where we have multi-use where we have a possibility of

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 multi-use path on-street in some cases we'll have to take them back on the side

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 so you know once we submit this we start work on this we will complete the audit

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 and provide the full details of what safety interventions we would do what

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 multimodal enhancements are needed all of that will be reviewed audited from

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 from context standpoint well you know from my perspective in I'm sure many

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 others when we're talking about from Carol to Luke 288 I'm just talking about

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 just the the shallowness of it all is what we see is that there's been a lot

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 of attention paid to McKinney Street from Carol to to Woodrow yeah so I you

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 know am just wondering why we're still giving that kind of attention to that

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 area and knowing that we do have a significant issue between between

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 Woodrow and 288 so you know I I think that it's I just think that it's a lot

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 of additional kind of wasted time from a you know from a layperson that to

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 spend you know any other additional time other than between Woodrow and 288

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 that's what I got but I wanted to just go ahead and make that clear that we

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 see in our laypersons he things that have been done already and things that

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 really really need to be done so there we go yes and and thank you for this

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 observation and we are on board with that to some extent the idea that we are

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 presenting here is to not go on some segments only on on a particular corridor

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 when we see a travel corridor we are looking at it from from look at looking

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 at it as a corridor standpoint not as a segment standpoint what happens is that

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 if we address some safety issues and some you know multi-modal enhancements

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 on a segment of a corridor then we end up having one phenomenal part of corridor

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 and from a time model standpoint the other would be deprived so what we are

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 trying to achieve here is that a kind of a model quarter if you ask me that we

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 will have all these enhancements wherever possible within the budget and

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 based on our audit that's what we are looking at so we are looking at

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 corridors not the segments okay thank you next is north-south Woodrow Lane

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 McKinney Avenue to Spencer again we are requesting 1.1 million dollars here

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 from DCTA and we will as I said we are looking at these corridors not certain

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 spots we will be holistically looking at the corridor we'll try to bring these

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 multimodal enhancements improvements and make sure that the corridor is is

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 suitable for other users as well not only auto owners and so the next is

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 more Street from Y Street to Woodrow Lane that's another project that we are

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 looking at and we are requesting 1.1 million dollars as DCTA funding for this

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 one and I we based on our audit we understand that previously it was a

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 trick funding was requested for this project about or slightly over

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 hundred fifty thousand dollars that funding will still be used and it was

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 requested for striping and some some other enhancements this additional

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 funding that we are requesting is would as I said earlier would be looking at

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 the whole corridor and bring these multimodal enhancements to make sure that

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 they are it is suitable for all other users regarding the status of the

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 previous trip project I think on this corridor it was put on hold to look at

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 downtown master plan to make sure that it is well coordinated effort and then

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 also for public feedback now we are taking it to public in next week next

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 week I guess and then based on the feedback if we get we will we will take

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 the course in case if the public suggests that no we don't want any

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 improvements there then we are planning to revert the funding back to the total

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 funds available and we'll use it some other part okay any questions yes I just

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 want to say that one of the first things I did when I started getting involved in

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 transportation safety around here was do a speed study on this corridor and

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 around 10 a.m. I was clocking people doing 45 down it and one person who was

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 doing 45 and nearly got rear-ended by the person behind them who was doing even

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 even faster so this is I think certainly a corridor where some sort of speed

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 calming infrastructure so naturally if we provide on-street multi-use path or

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 we still have to decide on that but that's the route we plan to go but if we

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 do that so naturally we'll be narrowing absolutely and so that will be a

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 natural incentive there and maybe an intervention to slow down the traffic

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 that's how we are looking at it is there any other question yes I'll just reiterate

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 I guess for anybody watching that I've talked to councilmember bird on this

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 previously like before I was on this committee but yeah definitely one of the

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 best ways to get people to slow down is to narrow the roadway there's just not

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 enough people parked along the street to narrow the roadway that way so narrowing

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 it some way vertically is probably going to be the best bet to slow people down

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 so we are also so in addition to that we are looking at hybrid pedestrian lights

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 as well all of these tool you know tools are available to us but as I said

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 context-based we have to look at the context if they are pedestrians heavily

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 used crosswalk we will look into that aspect as well and if it is high speed

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 area Riley Road from Bonnie Bray to North Allen Street this area has a bit of

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 activity when it comes to you know we have UNT Discovery Park and then we have

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 elementary school and also multifamily units here so there is a lot of activity

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 that we are a potential activity that we are seeing here so that's why it has

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 been selected as a project again we are requesting for 1.1 million dollars for

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 from DCTA and we hope to bring a lot of multimodal enhancements for this these I

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 must say that these funding requests these projects are extremely important

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 this funding is very important for us because just with the existing budget we

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 won't be able to implement these these enhancements multimodal enhancements

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 which are essential and integral part of any corridor I mean when we are when we

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 are looking at these roads as you mentioned that a high-speed road where we

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 have potential pedestrians and their safety issues using these this funding

440
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,920
 we'll be able to look at all those aspects and improve our corridors I

441
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,400
 won't say they'll be perfect but they'll have they'll be much better with all

442
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,280
 these multimodal enhancements I'll be happy to answer any other questions

443
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,200
 question about writing so the the final budget amount the six million something

444
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,760
 is that including the car part of it because I think I heard the surface is

445
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,640
 being redone as well I think this is six point five million number I got from

446
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,520
 Trevor from CIP maybe Trevor could address this question

447
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:07,920
 hey good morning Trevor crane director of capital projects so yes though this

448
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,040
 running road project is already a current CIP that's moving forward so the

449
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,640
 purpose of asking for the trip funding would be to supplement those projects to

450
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,760
 make sure that we're incorporating all that the multimodal the part are

451
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,160
 portions that that need to go on in this road so absolutely this project's already

452
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,560
 moving forward that project estimate is about five point five million so with

453
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,680
 this additional money it would be about six point five thank you yes ma'am it's

454
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,920
 that gonna be like a lot of drainage because that's a fairly high expense

455
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,720
 for a fairly short corridor sure so that project actually includes so it's a it's

456
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,600
 a small portion of widening it does have some multimodal so sidewalks it also

457
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,760
 includes a trail that will connect the new elementary school to north of North

458
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,640
 Lakes Park sorry North Lakes Park so there are some additional pieces in

459
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,560
 there that are going with that also includes acquiring right-of-way to make

460
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,080
 that sidewalk connection there's a couple of parcels in there that we'll

461
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,760
 have to acquire so that's kind of what that all all know a big number looks

462
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:38,120
 like so I want to lead with we absolutely

463
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,520
 need these multimodal additions I think they're really important and I think

464
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,360
 you've laid out a lot of really good ones so I don't want to I don't want to

465
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:56,040
 over I want to lead with a carrot before I pull a stick out of my pocket and that

466
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:04,800
 but the thing that's a little I'm confused by is the trip funding is

467
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:12,080
 mostly related to mass transit and related to essentially the buses and

468
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:21,200
 go-zones so I no way want us to get in front of the projects that Farhan is

469
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,520
 listed as a city but I'm a little confused as to how how they're related

470
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:34,600
 to the sort of mass transit and I asked that in this sort of scheme of you know

471
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:40,000
 sort of maybe when what are the deadlines for this year and then maybe in the

472
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:48,000
 future going forward you know the the option and feedback process in future

473
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:55,240
 years trip funding okay so I'm gonna let Farhan answer a portion of that he is

474
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,920
 much more eloquent in that than I will be but I did want to add a piece that

475
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,200
 that we also added into this programming and then I want to do a little bit of a

476
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:10,200
 disclaimer of why it is we're here today versus previously so we did not get much

477
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,840
 notification for this trip funding to go in and so we worked very aggressively to

478
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,560
 say okay what is it we need to do in conjunction with what we see for

479
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,880
 multimodal so this directly relates to what we need to get people from point A

480
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,640
 to point B and not necessarily with a vehicle so it absolutely ties back to

481
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,640
 what we're trying to do with DCTA and our partnership which will take me to a

482
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,560
 second portion that we're also adding or modifying what our request is is to

483
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,560
 include some enhancements to some of the existing bus routes to add some stops so

484
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,280
 we're going to be adding bus stops to those existing routes where we're seeing

485
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,800
 that there are spikes and go zone activity so we can better utilize the

486
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,000
 go-zone vehicles add to the bus routes and increase ridership so we've got

487
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,400
 some other pieces that will be bringing forward the second part to your question

488
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,120
 is is that we're going to take a proactive approach to bringing forward

489
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,960
 what we think our planning is going to be for the next year in advance of the

490
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,480
 request being asked so we will be pre planning this will work through this

491
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,280
 committee to develop what our plan is going forward how we're approaching

492
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480
 this so when it is that they come out with the trip funding we already have a

493
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:31,840
 plan in place so what you've experienced today is we reacted very quickly Farhan

494
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,920
 has been here for less than a year next year the expectation is he has this all

495
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,560
 mapped out in advance of it he will take care of business and you guys will be an

496
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,600
 integral part of doing that work that answer most of what you're looking for

497
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:53,240
 most most of what I'm looking for and I appreciate the comments apologize I

498
00:50:53,240 --> 00:51:00,280
 appreciate the comments about the additional mass transit related projects

499
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,200
 is that coming out of trip funds yes it will be it's a partnership to work

500
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,360
 through what we're doing with trip funds so we'll be coming back to you and kind

501
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,880
 of talking through what we're going to be doing and approaching amending kind

502
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,120
 of what we're talking about here today so it's a very recent development and

503
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,320
 again we're trying to be next nimble and flexible and what we're doing and we

504
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,440
 want this we want this committee's input we just haven't had the luxury of doing

505
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,120
 that because of the timing so I assure you we were going to be incredibly

506
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,440
 transparent and forward-thinking and use this body so speaking of flexibility we

507
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,120
 were some of the the lead-ins to all these projects are a little bit of an

508
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:46,520
 exploratory phase and I think Farhan mentioned this when when he was in his

509
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:53,840
 narrative how much flexibility do we have with the funding I mean there is it is

510
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,240
 it is it tightly coupled to our project scope and narratives or we have some

511
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:03,080
 degree of flexibility if we find conditions on the ground don't match I

512
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,300
 mean our funds could have to flow back are they gonna stay with us and we can

513
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:14,920
 reuse them I'll say yes so so I think I think we have I think we have

514
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,400
 flexibility and again it's the important part of our partnership with DCTA that

515
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,600
 we're trying to improve ridership and working through that they're they're not

516
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,440
 necessarily as long as we're doing what we're supposed to be doing a good faith

517
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,520
 that's complementing you know our mass transit that's what we're working to do

518
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,680
 and and I think they're gonna be a good partner with us as we do that they do

519
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,000
 have a process where if our needs change on the ground we can go through a

520
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,300
 process to change the allocation of the funding that's received to different

521
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:50,280
 projects right pending DCTA approval there is a process though to change the

522
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,320
 allocation thank you both thank you well that was a lot of conversation there

523
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,720
 but I think what I heard and I'm gonna summarize it on my kindergarten as I do

524
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:10,280
 that what we're talking about today is more the infrastructural part and then

525
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:16,600
 there is a there's additional funding that we are going to be able to use for

526
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,800
 things like bus stops you know in that kind of thing which is not part of the

527
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,080
 ground so to speak yep so right now we're just talking about the groundwork

528
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:31,240
 yes and then we're gonna come back at some other time which hopefully that'll

529
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:38,040
 be pretty soon but he said it would be we'll be connecting talking about where

530
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:44,280
 bus stops are located new transportation routes all that stuff is

531
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:53,600
 gonna come yes yes we will be in loop we'll bring all of these items to the

532
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,560
 mobility committee and we will discuss that we'll have an opportunity to change

533
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:06,160
 or improve or bring all of those things will be there thank you I just want to

534
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:11,080
 clarify the bus stop additional bus stops will be determined by DCTA and we

535
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,280
 have been meeting with them and we're just trying to make sure that our

536
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,640
 funding and projects align with their potential plans for additional bus stops

537
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,160
 that we're not detracting from that that we are truly being partners in this so

538
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,680
 as we have more information from DCTA we'll absolutely bring it to this

539
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:37,840
 committee is DCTA still taking time to come and visit either or this committee

540
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:45,160
 how is that gonna go with us of forward yes they have been working on some

541
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,880
 additional bus stop planning I think he's been wanting to do that before he

542
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,520
 comes back before Paul comes back to this committee or council but I can

543
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,880
 follow up with him and make sure we have a plan going forward I know you have

544
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,280
 already requested that he present yes so apparently it's just not time I need to

545
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,880
 be a little bit more patient okay yeah we have somebody on our on our committee

546
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,920
 now that is dedicated and committed to that so we're gonna you know ask her to

547
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,560
 stay on top of that for us appreciate you being here well in that case I'll

548
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,880
 say that route six is the one that's gonna be getting most of the new bus

549
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,400
 stops that project that's coming in across from the library has two bus

550
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:31,280
 stops going in by it and they're looking at adding additional trash cans seats

551
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,560
 benches shelters across a lot of stops and that's your job thank you thank you

552
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:42,020
 is anything else yes all right thank you so much thank you so much we

553
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:51,200
 appreciate that update okay then we are here for emc to four days zero one one

554
00:55:51,200 --> 00:56:02,320
 staff memorandum so I'm not sure if you have any questions on each of the items

555
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,520
 we don't have a presentation but can go through and answer any questions that

556
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,800
 you may have on each individual kind of section or update all right well just to

557
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,600
 let the audience know that we do receive these ahead of time and it gives us an

558
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:22,520
 opportunity to come up with questions any thoughts on each one of these

559
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,640
 sections instead of having someone to come in front of us and you know go line

560
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,520
 by line so so we do have someone that has a question

561
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:38,280
 dr. Beck yes thank you my first question is on the second item bike racks policies

562
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:47,520
 regulation I appreciate the feedback on that that we have DC regs that govern

563
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:57,440
 permitted and new development additions I think it was 20 yes you know 20 to 1

564
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:09,320
 the the concern that I have is that's new and I our turnover is only so much

565
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:16,040
 as busy as planning and development services is they still are only

566
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:23,000
 addressing so much of the distribution of these things so what what vehicles

567
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:32,160
 what mechanisms do we have for the built out areas to to enhance because if we're

568
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,960
 going to achieve some of our vision zero and climate action and yada yada yada

569
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,920
 there's about half a dozen different strategic priorities that include

570
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,120
 multimodal and bike if we're going to have that we have to have the

571
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,800
 infrastructure to support it and it can't just be in the newly developed and

572
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:54,800
 newly permitted areas or or will be really spotty in terms of our

573
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,160
 infrastructure so what do we have in the way of getting that into the built out

574
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:10,680
 areas yes so so that is absolutely a challenge so two pieces and I'm gonna

575
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,680
 go back to a full transparency mode here we had a question our member rumor that

576
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,200
 was asking the very question on how it is we're currently doing bike racks

577
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,000
 today Cassie had provided an update on our staffing and we're quite excited

578
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,600
 that we're gonna have somebody on board very very soon to focus specifically on

579
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:37,600
 bike and pedestrian so answering kind of both of those at the same time we have

580
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,360
 some standards within our codes and criteria that specify what were to be

581
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,840
 using for bike racks that was a relatively new addition to our code

582
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,560
 there's a gap and thank you for identifying the gap of where it is how

583
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,800
 those show up on our civil plans versus where they should be on building plans

584
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,480
 and who's inspecting what's getting installed so we have a disconnect in

585
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:05,440
 particular one of those with was with a DISD campus I visited with the ISD they

586
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,000
 have no problem upgrading changing and making sure that we're compliant where

587
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,160
 we need to be and so that model is already going to be going forward so

588
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,640
 that correction has been made going to existing structures that don't have that

589
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,560
 that's going to be really a tool of or an incentive on how it is that we can

590
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,760
 get people to provide those and an educational component of where it is

591
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:31,520
 that we can show or illustrate that providing those those amenities provide

592
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,520
 benefits to whoever that is whether that's a multifamily project or whether

593
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,760
 that's a retail establishment so we're going to put together what those

594
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,800
 incentives could look like and what it is those educational pieces are that we

595
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,520
 can start doing some of that communication but again we need that

596
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,000
 dedicated staff member that's going to focus specifically on that is to be able

597
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,120
 to communicate that much more effectively so hopefully that takes care

598
00:59:53,120 --> 01:00:00,240
 of both of your you have another question I'm being good wait yeah I just

599
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,040
 wanted to add to what Brian was saying I think I've seen some cities or maybe

600
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,840
 organizations and cities sometimes there's grant funding out there and then

601
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,760
 they can offer to install bike rack for free to businesses that want them so

602
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,680
 that is like he said incentives one way to start to get some bike parking and

603
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:22,120
 built up built out areas and and I will say that you know Farhan Farhan's team

604
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:28,960
 has been incredibly aggressive on going after grants and he I don't know if I

605
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,480
 would say he bombards me every day but it feels like he departs me every day

606
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,680
 with another request to do something else so I'm fully confident that we're

607
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,160
 gonna chase and continue to chase those dollars we're leveraging everything that

608
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:48,200
 we can to make Denton just as good as we can so I have a generalized question in

609
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:56,880
 regards of studying something and it appears to me that we're always in a

610
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:07,600
 mode of studying something and so like citywide parking study and I know we've

611
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,240
 gotten you know it's gotta be something out right there out there on the books

612
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:17,600
 already anyway so can you kind of walk through with us what does a study looks

613
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:24,000
 like why are we still studying stuff and you know from a lay person's perspective

614
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:29,120
 how long does it take to go from a study to actually seeing something happening

615
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:34,520
 we know how long it takes to see it start to happen and then it takes a while

616
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:41,120
 for it to be finished but what's like a time frame for a study then to do

617
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:47,360
 something today for a year about a year no no it could be a day could be a year

618
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:52,200
 always a day or a year so that's a very broad question meaning based on the type

619
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,600
 of study let's talk to the citywide parking study okay as an example so so I

620
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,000
 see Brett wander up here for the the citywide parking study he can speak she

621
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,040
 can speak to that which is kind of kind of tracking with that yeah going back

622
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:10,200
 to why we're doing studies overall so so the city hires subject matter experts in

623
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,440
 a variety of topics and again based on the staffing loads that we have and the

624
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,600
 work that we have to perform that the depth and the breadth of what we need to

625
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,620
 do may not be a in our wheelhouse or we don't have the capability to perform

626
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:29,320
 that task or that work so why we have two different parking studies is because

627
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,160
 we have two different elements that we're trying to look at and so we want

628
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,080
 somebody to focus specifically on that topic and depending on again is it

629
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,880
 citywide or is it a downtown parking study and what is it that we're asking

630
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,840
 to be studied and so if I talk about the downtown parking study we were looking

631
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:53,720
 at how the spaces on the square are being used how much available parking do

632
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,680
 we have for downtown and is there a difference between daytime nighttime and

633
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:05,040
 weekday weekend so it's that's that's some very specific data that requires

634
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,600
 someone really just kind of boots on the ground to be able to evaluate those

635
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,960
 types of things and then I'll let Brett speak to kind of why the citywide but

636
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,160
 that'll give you a good example of how it is that we do different studies for

637
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:20,200
 different reasons and we have a continuum of studies that have to be

638
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:26,960
 performed and I can tell you with Farhan Farhan's group probably been since he's

639
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,800
 been here for seven months for studies that he's requested to have happen

640
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,760
 because again the amount of data that we don't have the data that we're not

641
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,080
 capturing that we're beginning to capture today which will help to provide

642
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,560
 you know what we need for the analytics the metrics to be able to make decisions

643
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,840
 going forward but when we haven't gathered that data we don't have the

644
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:56,400
 information to be able to make a decision so that's kind of that big

645
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,200
 picture high-volume sort of look at it and I think Brett has something to

646
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,000
 mention as far as the citywide thank you very much

647
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:10,080
 Brett Blujewald City Engineer so for the citywide parking study the reason we're

648
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,200
 looking at that kind of independently of the downtown parking study is the

649
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:19,600
 downtown parking study you're looking at a very defined area how do you promote

650
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,400
 walkability how do you promote utilize the parking spaces that are there for

651
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,760
 the citywide parking study the city is very diverse you have areas around the

652
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,280
 college campuses which are one type of character so how do we handle parking in

653
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,320
 those areas versus how do we handle parking on residential streets compared

654
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,760
 to how do we handle parking in retail centers like I raise a ranch or on Luke

655
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,520
 288 South Luke 288 so there's lots of different aspects of the parking and you

656
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,440
 can't just kind of lump them all together as one one one uniform policy

657
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,920
 across the whole city you have to kind of look at each different type of use and

658
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,240
 how does that how do you use and how do you change the code or the requirements

659
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,320
 or the regulations or the ordinances or how do you enforce them differently for

660
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,240
 those different areas so that's what we bring a consultant on is to kind of okay

661
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,560
 what can we do what are other communities doing nationwide they have

662
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,460
 the expertise because they do this in those different communities they can do

663
01:05:16,460 --> 01:05:20,840
 the research they can bring back and say hey this part of the city we'd classify

664
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:25,000
 it this way it's an example these other cities are doing it this way here we

665
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,280
 think it can work in this spot in your area so once we get those

666
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,080
 recommendations we can bring items forward to council and to the committee

667
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,240
 here to say okay we're thinking of this how do you feel about it what do you

668
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,520
 want us to do how do we enforce this or how do we implement these new policies

669
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,260
 or new plans and then those roll out over time as we're able to make those

670
01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:48,960
 implementations go forward okay and my next question is whenever these studies

671
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:55,840
 are done they and they're not done all the time you know they're done in

672
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:02,200
 increments of years correct and so with that being said I'm thinking about

673
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,960
 particularly for my district that is already kind of filled in but there's

674
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,160
 still some a large swath of infield that needs to be done and my brain goes of

675
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:18,160
 course directly to Woodrow in 288 will you have to go back and restudy after

676
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:26,560
 those areas are you know have been developed I ideally not because when you

677
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,320
 do this study you kind of look at the land use and you look at what the

678
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:35,920
 proposed options are and then we'd tailor a a requirement or ordinance or

679
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,600
 recommend or policies that would say okay this infill area is zoned as this

680
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,440
 whenever this comes in this is the policy want to use in this neighborhood

681
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,160
 or this type of character of the neighbor of the city and say okay we want

682
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,960
 to you know there's been discussions a lot of cities are going with no minimum

683
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,160
 parking requirements no minimums okay well is that effective citywide or is

684
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,080
 that something that we want to look at for infill areas or more urban areas

685
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:07,080
 versus big box stores so how does that all kind of play together and so that's

686
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,720
 what we have a consultant kind of guide us or provide us recommendations or

687
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,440
 options that we can evaluate and bring forward so the study is laid over the

688
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,960
 the area of development it's going to be laid over on top of that and whenever a

689
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:27,480
 company or you know developer comes in to do what they want to do they're going

690
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:34,480
 to have to meet rise to the level of the study or it's a study has to you know I

691
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,360
 just asked question does the story have to be redone so just for clarification

692
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:44,800
 that the study is going to overlay on top of whatever development they're

693
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,880
 kind of putting so the way that be a housing development or or business

694
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:55,200
 development role of businesses that study is it's going to lay over on top

695
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,800
 of all of that is that is that to say yes or no

696
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,160
 I think the way the the easier way to think about it is if you take the city

697
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,000
 and you break it up into different sections right so you have residential

698
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,600
 sections you have urban sections you have retail sections creating policies

699
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,720
 for those sections that you can apply regardless of what comes in if you're in

700
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,360
 that residential neighborhood you're you might see mostly residential but you

701
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,840
 might see some local shops corner stores whatever they would fall within that

702
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,480
 residential section of the parking policy so you kind of break it up like

703
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:43,400
 what is the youth sections like and try to craft policies towards those and that

704
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,920
 would be with staff would bring recommendations towards the committee or

705
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,600
 towards council and get your feedback in your direction on how to implement

706
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,800
 those and those recommendations okay anybody have any other questions

707
01:08:54,800 --> 01:09:05,040
 about Ryan hi okay all right so I'm done with my questions and you have a

708
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,760
 question go ahead yeah so the memo mentions that a safety audit was

709
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,760
 conducted I was just wondering if somebody could speak as to what happens

710
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:25,160
 in a safety audit sorry on Ryan hi the crossing between Ryan hi and dollar general

711
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:35,840
 morning chair and committee members Chandra with transportation services

712
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:42,080
 during any safety audits we go observe what's out there existing facilities are

713
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,680
 there for like in this case at Ryan high school a safe crossing is there and if

714
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:53,400
 so what are the speed limits out there what sidewalks are there out whether

715
01:09:53,400 --> 01:10:00,000
 they have safe sidewalks to cross on either side and this specific location

716
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,960
 is a school zone of course it's high school students they kind of cross

717
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,680
 wherever they want and but there is provisions for sidewalk and a safe

718
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,960
 school crossing at the signal based on two observations we did not see any high

719
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,160
 school kids during the after-school disperse and in the morning hours but on

720
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,360
 the third audit since we had a specific request that they are crossing we did

721
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,080
 not see on the third audit during lunch hour at 11 a.m. they were crossing at

722
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,640
 dollar general but it was not at a specific location they were like on

723
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,920
 their own jaywalking and crossing at their specific locations but the good

724
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,640
 thing we noticed it's a school zone although the speeds were 45 miles per

725
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:50,800
 hour it was reduced to 30 and in front of the school so it we did not see any

726
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:56,880
 unusual conditions with the facility infrastructure is already there but we

727
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:02,120
 cannot regulate somebody to force them to cross here but if they are willing to

728
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,680
 cross anywhere it's either the enforcement part and which we don't want

729
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:15,720
 to push on high school stores so I'll just I'll add that I went and did my own

730
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:23,800
 counts of student crossing so I went Monday afternoon and I saw about 25 ish

731
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,920
 students make the cross and that was primarily one way they were headed

732
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,800
 towards that neighborhood back behind the dollar general not actually to the

733
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:37,080
 dollar general itself and then this morning I pulled up a little bit late

734
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:43,320
 having trouble finding some stuff to leave my house but I saw 17 students

735
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:50,280
 and those were primarily crossing to and from the dollar general so my concern

736
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:56,840
 there is that if the the safety infrastructure that is put in place is a

737
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,360
 few hundred feet away and it's not actually getting used and it's not

738
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:07,240
 actually serving that safety purpose so that's just my concern there but with

739
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:12,400
 this particular site yeah there weren't as many people crossing as I thought

740
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:19,280
 there were so it again it depends on how they want to cross we have provided a

741
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,280
 traffic signal and that is the safest place to cross right in front of the

742
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,720
 high school where the signal is on Ryan way and we expect them to use that to

743
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:35,340
 cross but again if it's a preference for them from across the play fields to go

744
01:12:35,340 --> 01:12:41,240
 to dollar general or wherever they want but again on the two instances we did

745
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,160
 not see but the third one they were using those but it's kind of like

746
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:52,400
 unmanaged day walking and we looked at text art Chris data for any incident it's

747
01:12:52,400 --> 01:13:00,280
 unfortunately if we have any incidents then we could provide like a hop hybrid

748
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:05,840
 pedestrian crossings but it only validates for if there is any previous

749
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:11,760
 incidences unfortunately but we could revisit the site in six months and we

750
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:17,360
 see if there is any potential unsafe then we could do improvements thank you

751
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:26,560
 sure yes yeah I have a similar well a little bit similar question on the last

752
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:36,920
 item where we were talking about the the the conflicts between various types of

753
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:49,680
 pedestrian and multimodal control versus emergency services access and I think

754
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:56,280
 as for me for to to mitigate future questions I like to do my homework so if

755
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:04,320
 staff could help me could provide information on these sort of conflicting

756
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:10,300
 stakeholders we have we have the EMS and safety response and they have certain

757
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:14,840
 hazards that they're trying to mitigate certain safety requirements at the same

758
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:20,400
 time we have our mobility hazards and safety requirements and they both have

759
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:28,600
 associated costs with them and and so if we if I could get some sort of of the

760
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,720
 committee could get some sort of report about like okay these are the these are

761
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,760
 the costs and hazards that that you know safety is trying or emergency safety and

762
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:44,080
 EMS and fire trying to mitigate these are the safety and costs associated with

763
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:52,640
 you know mobility because what I am concerned about potentially is sort of

764
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,800
 what's the relative values of those two numbers if I'm trying to save I'm gonna

765
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,480
 make up a number that makes my point because I have no idea what the number

766
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,600
 is if I'm trying to save $5,000 in fire truck repairs versus a hundred and

767
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:16,880
 fifty thousand dollars in in pedestrian safety then then we have our our

768
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:23,280
 priority out of alignment but if it's the other way and then you know these

769
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,440
 fire trucks and whatnot are very very expensive and I don't want anyone's life

770
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:33,520
 impacted or the the response times impacted in any way at all right I mean

771
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:38,440
 those are clearly emergencies we need not to impact them so if y'all can

772
01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:44,840
 provide mostly educational materials and maybe just a scotch of data so that that

773
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,160
 I can do my homework and read and not have future questions where I'm asking

774
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:54,200
 people to come up and go oh you know what is this thing every single meeting

775
01:15:54,200 --> 01:16:01,160
 and slows down that would be really helpful to me sure so yes we will we

776
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:08,120
 will circle back with the committee on on the more information but my previous

777
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:15,920
 experience with the emergency response quantification is almost impossible

778
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:24,760
 because how do we quantify a fire fire services or emergency services reaching

779
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,640
 out to a severe injury location trying to save somebody's life one minute is

780
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:36,520
 more important so versus speed hump provision on on on a road so I think

781
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:42,440
 quantification of these services especially emergency is it's very

782
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:47,480
 difficult but we will try to figure out what the average cost is but again it is

783
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:52,820
 context-based if the ambulance is going there to save somebody that is I mean

784
01:16:52,820 --> 01:16:57,680
 five minutes two minutes is important so so we how do we quantify that it's it's

785
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,720
 it'll be very complicated but still we can provide the committee some numbers

786
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:09,960
 to to to compare no I appreciate that I mean I don't want us to get into nobody

787
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,760
 wants to get crass to get into it like insurance actually I really take the

788
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,280
 value of yes that are the other thing so I just I'm not I said that on purpose to

789
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:24,000
 make it clear I'm not asking for that because we're not gonna put values on

790
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,440
 people's safety yes I'm not asking you to do that I'm I'm asking to the extent

791
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:34,320
 that we can when we're when we're you know when we're providing oversight and

792
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:39,880
 advice in this committee or for Vicky and I in council you know we are having

793
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,240
 to do what y'all are having to do and juggle and that's what that's all I'm

794
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,280
 trying to do is get some background information okay we'll circle back and

795
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,600
 we'll bring more information thank you thank you so much I have a generalized

796
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:56,960
 question in regards to speed cushions yes now there are some neighborhoods that

797
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:04,520
 do have speed cushion and those may generally be HOA's kind of doing you

798
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:15,400
 know pecan concrete neighborhood villages of Carmel and then I'm there's

799
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:21,800
 another street here in town that has those speed cushions and I don't believe

800
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:27,440
 they're in like an HOA neighborhood is there some type of grandfathering in of

801
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:34,720
 certain streets in older neighborhoods the street that I'm particularly curious

802
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:40,760
 about is Greenwood and they have you know they have it's a it's a long street

803
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,120
 so I can imagine the reason why they put it there but is there some kind of

804
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:50,040
 grandfathering in of these things generally based on our discussion with

805
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:56,640
 fire our colleagues at fire department maybe it's discouraged but I know that

806
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:05,480
 there's some some I think some leverage some some flexibility on on how what the

807
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:11,520
 height of these questions would be but the standard questions it's a no no for

808
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,280
 fire department but I think we could work with them but if there's a

809
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,160
 specific case if you could just let us know and we could look into that well I

810
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:24,120
 did Greenwood Street they're out there okay that's just one street so but I

811
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,640
 just noticed that you know from my from my learning is that you know this is

812
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:33,200
 something that's definitely discouraged but you know we still have some that

813
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,520
 are out there yeah well we'll evaluate what we have out there it absolutely is

814
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,840
 discouraged and we're looking at other traffic calming methods so there's some

815
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,800
 other methods some other things that we can do so we're evaluating those things

816
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,960
 and again that'll be that comprehensive approach to all of what transportation

817
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,120
 services looking to do all right anybody else have anything on anything else that

818
01:19:54,120 --> 01:20:05,200
 we've spoken on okay yes now at this point do we go in and talk about some

819
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,040
 things that we'd like to get on the list right do you have the future items

820
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:17,040
 okay tricks and given the discussion I'll say maybe we have the request to

821
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,960
 remove the raised crosswalks and speed cushions but I'll we won't take that off

822
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:27,680
 pending we'll come back with the data request in the specific street request

823
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,440
 that you just had so we'll not remove that one but okay we are requesting to

824
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:36,720
 move the add remove the other items since we've been discussing those and I

825
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:43,080
 know that you asked for additional items on the the connector so we will we'll

826
01:20:43,080 --> 01:21:00,440
 keep those on as well yes doc pick yeah I think considering that we still have

827
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:07,440
 some outstanding community engagement pieces on on Kings Row Windsor maybe we

828
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:16,880
 don't remove that one that's later in the week and then I mean I know Steph

829
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:22,000
 was gonna come back to us with the possibilities that Susie and I talked

830
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,800
 about for built-out infrastructure for bike racks but I so I don't know if that

831
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:33,600
 crosses the threshold of staying on or not I mean it's a small piece so I

832
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:38,440
 wouldn't get a hard I wouldn't get hard bird either way I would recommend we add

833
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:44,720
 an item for the future to discuss bike rack maybe programs or initiatives for

834
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:50,000
 existing infrastructure so we can remove this one but then be more specific about

835
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,880
 the future request if that's if you're amenable to that okay and then keep the

836
01:21:55,880 --> 01:22:04,400
 Kings Row and Windsor we'll keep that one that item pending more discussion

837
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:12,680
 you know when you all are talking to us about these different roads we gotta go

838
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:20,360
 in our brain and find need to have a map is there anything else would you like

839
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:26,920
 to add anything future items any other future items okay well I don't have any

840
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,640
 future items there's a lot going on up there so we're going to just look

841
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,520
 forward to some of these things becoming closer to fruition and appreciate you

842
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,400
 all for all of the work that you've done if there's not any other additional

843
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,640
 questions comments or concerns about anything that we've done today I'd like

844
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:51,880
 to go to number three is there any kind of concluding items and anybody DCTA

845
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,480
 board meeting tomorrow I believe for anybody interested DCTA board meeting

846
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:03,380
 tomorrow what time 10 a.m. it'll be online and also at their Lewisville

847
01:23:03,380 --> 01:23:08,440
 headquarters oh which is in an office park and not at the rail corridor that

848
01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:13,280
 Google Maps will direct you to initially did we ever have any DCTA meetings at

849
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,320
 indents and at the DCTA building occasionally they have community

850
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,080
 engagement meetings there but they don't have regular board meetings there if

851
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,640
 they are looking at expanding into a new facility in the next couple of years

852
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,060
 that will be built at Old Town Station as a transit oriented development okay

853
01:23:29,060 --> 01:23:32,720
 Old Town Station is a nice place okay well there's not there's any any

854
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:38,160
 additional concluding items we're going to close the meeting today at 1124

855
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,200
 everyone thank you so much for your hard work

856
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,920
 you