WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.980 It's 5.30 p.m. and it is Monday, March 4th, 2024. 00:00:06.980 --> 00:00:11.220 And this is the City of Denton Board of Ethics. 00:00:11.220 --> 00:00:15.860 And I don't -- do we have any B comments 00:00:15.860 --> 00:00:18.720 or presentations from the public? 00:00:18.720 --> 00:00:19.820 >> Not that I saw. 00:00:19.820 --> 00:00:26.260 >> Okay. So we will move on to two items for consideration. 00:00:26.260 --> 00:00:30.800 So BOE24-011, consider approval of minutes 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:35.880 for February 5th and February 8th, 2024. 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:39.380 So do I hear a motion? 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:42.780 >> I have a motion to accept the minutes as presented. 00:00:42.780 --> 00:00:47.620 >> So Andrea Eberhardt has made a motion to accept the minutes. 00:00:47.620 --> 00:00:48.580 >> I'll second. 00:00:48.580 --> 00:00:51.060 >> And Dustin Howlett's second. 00:00:51.060 --> 00:00:54.060 >> So all in favor of accepting the minutes as -- 00:00:54.060 --> 00:00:57.020 >> All right. 00:00:57.020 --> 00:00:59.600 >> So we will move on to -- 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:08.100 do we need to look at the draft advisory opinion or? 00:01:08.100 --> 00:01:11.500 >> No, the advisory opinion? 00:01:11.500 --> 00:01:13.080 >> Right. 00:01:13.080 --> 00:01:14.420 >> That's been republished. 00:01:14.420 --> 00:01:17.920 It's just in there as an FYI and that's a later item. 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:22.580 I think we're on the proposed -- the draft red lines. 00:01:22.580 --> 00:01:28.360 >> Okay. So BOE24-012, receive a report, hold a discussion 00:01:28.360 --> 00:01:31.500 and give staff direction regarding draft red lines 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:34.260 of the potential proposed amendments from the Board 00:01:34.260 --> 00:01:39.340 of Ethics to one, repeal and replace ethics ordinance section 00:01:39.340 --> 00:01:45.140 2-273A, conflicts of interest, and two, 00:01:45.140 --> 00:01:51.520 eliminate section 2-281C for evidentiary hearing procedures 00:01:51.520 --> 00:01:54.460 to reflect the elimination of the requirement 00:01:54.460 --> 00:01:59.360 of the complainant to testify in evidentiary hearing. 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:04.400 So I guess we'll look at -- I guess just the red line ordinance. 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.760 >> Right. So we discussed all of this last time. 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.660 I made the changes that you all directed me to 00:02:09.660 --> 00:02:13.500 and then I also updated this disclosure section 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:16.600 which I missed last time. 00:02:16.600 --> 00:02:19.040 Basically I just removed it because it really -- 00:02:19.040 --> 00:02:22.340 I think it's generally covered by the updated language 00:02:22.340 --> 00:02:24.520 and then it has this reference to pending matter 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.980 which is not really applicable anymore 00:02:26.980 --> 00:02:28.280 under the draft red lines. 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.520 And then the only other thing I wanted to point 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.860 out is there's this section on city officials with contracts. 00:02:35.860 --> 00:02:39.760 That's not currently in the ordinance and it's just language 00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:44.400 from the model code that we haven't really discussed. 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:45.600 So I wanted to make sure we did 00:02:45.600 --> 00:02:48.400 that before we forwarded it to the city council. 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.800 Those are kind of the major differences from last time. 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.640 >> I did want to say I would really not like to introduce -- 00:02:54.640 --> 00:02:56.840 other than what we're talking about right now -- 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.120 don't want to introduce new things because I would 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.480 like to be able to say we have approved this 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:05.320 and there you go city council. 00:03:05.320 --> 00:03:09.400 When are you going to -- when are you going to look at it? 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:12.860 So I don't mean to cut anybody's voice off. 00:03:12.860 --> 00:03:16.260 There are certainly things I could tweak. 00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:19.100 But I want to say we're done. 00:03:19.100 --> 00:03:22.240 There you go. 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:26.340 And I think if we keep tweaking it, then we're going 00:03:26.340 --> 00:03:30.140 to give reasons to wait longer. 00:03:30.140 --> 00:03:33.580 So that said, I'll shut everybody down. 00:03:33.580 --> 00:03:35.320 I hope not. 00:03:35.320 --> 00:03:41.320 I love you not saying this and not saying anything. 00:03:41.320 --> 00:03:45.920 >> I'm not going to say anything that's terrific. 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:47.600 >> More than this last time. 00:03:47.600 --> 00:03:52.340 I'm 100% happy with where we're at and I'm looking forward 00:03:52.340 --> 00:03:55.840 to the council unanimously approving this. 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:00.140 >> Me too. 00:04:00.140 --> 00:04:03.440 Me too. 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:10.920 >> So any -- no concerns about the changes to this cycle 00:04:10.920 --> 00:04:15.120 up here that basically got eliminated? 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:16.220 >> Andrew? 00:04:16.220 --> 00:04:20.460 >> Nope. Because like you said, that's covered by the language 00:04:20.460 --> 00:04:22.460 that we adopted last time. 00:04:22.460 --> 00:04:25.540 >> Okay. And then we did update substantial -- 00:04:25.540 --> 00:04:27.540 add substantial here as we discussed, 00:04:27.540 --> 00:04:30.200 as there was direction to do last time. 00:04:30.200 --> 00:04:36.840 And then any discussion about this contract section? 00:04:36.840 --> 00:04:42.220 It seems like it might be sort of covered by all the rest 00:04:42.220 --> 00:04:44.080 of the withdrawal pieces. 00:04:44.080 --> 00:04:45.520 So I don't know that it needs to be in there. 00:04:45.520 --> 00:04:46.560 >> I don't think that was our intent. 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.560 Sorry. 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.220 >> You mean to omit that? 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:51.300 >> To omit it. 00:04:51.300 --> 00:04:57.500 >> Yeah. I'm good with it as written. 00:04:57.500 --> 00:04:59.840 >> So do we need a motion here? 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:01.800 >> I don't think so because there's not really any direction 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:03.700 you're giving me to adjust this language. 00:05:03.700 --> 00:05:05.100 You're telling me there is direction 00:05:05.100 --> 00:05:06.540 to remove this contract section, 00:05:06.540 --> 00:05:08.180 but you never really gave me direction to add it, 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:11.080 so I don't think so. 00:05:11.080 --> 00:05:13.820 >> I appreciate your transparency, but -- 00:05:13.820 --> 00:05:17.960 >> And then -- and then I think the only motion we really need is 00:05:17.960 --> 00:05:20.520 to forward the proposed amendments to council, 00:05:20.520 --> 00:05:22.160 which is really the next item, so. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:26.560 >> Okay. So we move on to -- 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:36.240 >> Do we need to talk about the rule and procedure part? 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:37.880 >> You -- so y'all discussed 00:05:37.880 --> 00:05:39.840 that originally in October last year. 00:05:39.840 --> 00:05:41.740 I know a while ago at this point. 00:05:41.740 --> 00:05:45.180 But you're certainly welcome to discuss that again 00:05:45.180 --> 00:05:46.120 if you would like to. 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:47.580 >> I don't have anything to add. 00:05:47.580 --> 00:05:50.920 I just know that it was on the -- 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:55.420 it was in that item in the agenda, so. 00:05:55.420 --> 00:05:58.920 >> It was exhibit 30. 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.960 >> Yeah. And it's really updated to kind of reflect the change 00:06:01.960 --> 00:06:04.400 to removing the burden of proof requirements, 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:06.600 and so allowing the complainant to choose whether 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.800 or not they would like to testify. 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:13.940 >> I don't have any comments on that. 00:06:13.940 --> 00:06:16.980 I think it is exactly what we have. 00:06:16.980 --> 00:06:19.880 >> Were we planning to include that in the packet 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:23.180 with these other two items, because -- 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:25.620 >> So that is the second item. 00:06:25.620 --> 00:06:26.680 It's -- yeah. 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.420 >> I was -- okay, so. 00:06:29.420 --> 00:06:31.660 >> You can certainly give direction to only do one 00:06:31.660 --> 00:06:32.900 of them if you would like to. 00:06:32.900 --> 00:06:34.620 I think originally that was the plan. 00:06:34.620 --> 00:06:38.160 >> So is everybody okay with the rules and procedure? 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.940 Yeah, that was -- I've slept many times since we approved that. 00:06:42.940 --> 00:06:45.940 So, okay, so. 00:06:45.940 --> 00:06:46.940 >> No, I feel the same way. 00:06:46.940 --> 00:06:48.380 We've discussed it. 00:06:48.380 --> 00:06:49.940 >> Forward march. 00:06:49.940 --> 00:06:55.040 So do -- we've already moved on everything. 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.080 We didn't change anything tonight. 00:06:58.080 --> 00:06:59.820 So, okay. 00:06:59.820 --> 00:07:03.080 >> Yeah, so then the next item would be 00:07:03.080 --> 00:07:04.660 to actually forward these proposals 00:07:04.660 --> 00:07:08.960 to the city council, eventually. 00:07:08.960 --> 00:07:10.800 >> Yes. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:11.860 >> Yes. 00:07:11.860 --> 00:07:15.340 >> I moved them before the red line. 00:07:15.340 --> 00:07:17.340 >> I think we have to read that item first before -- 00:07:17.340 --> 00:07:18.000 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:18.980 >> Oh, okay. 00:07:18.980 --> 00:07:23.140 >> Sorry. They're separate, to make it clear. 00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:25.280 >> Exhibit three, rule -- 00:07:25.280 --> 00:07:31.080 >> These are the items. 00:07:31.080 --> 00:07:36.320 >> Yeah, item C, DOE 24-013, receive a report, 00:07:36.320 --> 00:07:39.760 hold a discussion, and take necessary action regarding 00:07:39.760 --> 00:07:42.900 forwarding proposals to amend city of Denton code 00:07:42.900 --> 00:07:47.600 of ordinances chapter two, article 11, ethics, 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.980 and the board of ethics rules of procedure to the city council. 00:07:51.980 --> 00:07:56.380 Exhibit one would be the agenda information sheet, 00:07:56.380 --> 00:08:01.520 and then the exhibit two is a letter of proposed amendments. 00:08:01.520 --> 00:08:08.560 >> Yeah, so the draft letter, I can pull it up in a second. 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.700 The options are really to forward it to council 00:08:10.700 --> 00:08:13.900 as it's presented, forward it as amended, 00:08:13.900 --> 00:08:15.460 based on your discussion, or just to put it 00:08:15.460 --> 00:08:17.640 on next meeting's agenda, as well, 00:08:17.640 --> 00:08:20.700 based on direction that you do. 00:08:20.700 --> 00:08:22.740 >> Do I hear a motion? 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:27.780 >> I'll make a motion that we forward to council for approval 00:08:27.780 --> 00:08:31.820 as written today, the written lines. 00:08:31.820 --> 00:08:34.920 >> I'll second that. 00:08:34.920 --> 00:08:39.220 >> Okay. Andrea seconded, Dustin made the motion. 00:08:39.220 --> 00:08:40.960 Any discussion? 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.520 Okay. All in favor? 00:08:45.520 --> 00:08:46.200 >> Aye. 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.900 >> It's unanimous. 00:08:47.900 --> 00:09:01.440 Okay. So item D, BOE 24-014, receiver report, 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.780 holds a discussion and gives staff direction regarding the 00:09:04.780 --> 00:09:07.880 definition of complainant as it relates to the city 00:09:07.880 --> 00:09:10.180 of Denton code of ordinances, 00:09:10.180 --> 00:09:15.200 chapter two, article 11, ethics. 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:20.900 So I have nothing prepared for this. 00:09:20.900 --> 00:09:23.900 This was, I believe I was given direction to put this 00:09:23.900 --> 00:09:26.840 on the agenda, and this was specifically something I know 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.180 members, core members over there wanted to discuss. 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:34.840 He was unable to be here tonight, so. 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:36.240 >> So. 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.680 >> Should we table it so we can attend? 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:42.020 >> I would suggest we table that to our next meeting. 00:09:42.020 --> 00:09:45.820 >> It's a very entertaining definition 00:09:45.820 --> 00:09:53.300 because it calls the complainant human, but I looked 00:09:53.300 --> 00:09:56.400 at the legal definition that doesn't mention the humans. 00:09:56.400 --> 00:09:58.340 >> I think his concern was whether or not it had 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:01.380 to be an individual or this could be a group 00:10:01.380 --> 00:10:04.540 or something like that, but I don't want to speak for him, 00:10:04.540 --> 00:10:09.320 and I think it would make sense to table it. 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:10.920 >> To our next meeting. 00:10:10.920 --> 00:10:17.260 [ Inaudible ] 00:10:17.260 --> 00:10:18.520 >> I don't have a problem to table it, 00:10:18.520 --> 00:10:21.220 but I think there is a rule about, because I tried 00:10:21.220 --> 00:10:26.060 to table something like that, and the lawyer was saying. 00:10:26.060 --> 00:10:27.040 >> I don't know what the rule is. 00:10:27.040 --> 00:10:29.800 >> I have a rule about it of not being able 00:10:29.800 --> 00:10:31.800 to bring it back up if we table it. 00:10:31.800 --> 00:10:32.840 Some, there was something. 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:36.600 >> Okay, so we had, there is some parliamentary language. 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:39.480 >> Yeah, there's a parliamentary language 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.740 that makes it when we say table it. 00:10:42.740 --> 00:10:43.380 >> Okay. 00:10:43.380 --> 00:10:45.120 >> I'm glad you, I know there's some kind 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:46.720 of weird language for that. 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.480 >> Yeah, so it's just the way Robert's rule is written. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.060 So when you say you lay it on the table, you're adding it 00:10:54.060 --> 00:10:57.100 to be debated, but you're moving to postpone the item. 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:58.060 >> Yes, exactly. 00:10:58.060 --> 00:11:01.440 >> So we have to move to postpone. 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:02.940 >> Yeah, okay. 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:06.040 >> I'll move that we postpone this agenda item 00:11:06.040 --> 00:11:09.240 to a future meeting. 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:10.180 >> And I'll second that. 00:11:10.180 --> 00:11:13.940 >> Andrea seconded that, okay. 00:11:13.940 --> 00:11:16.320 >> I think we have time for one. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:17.780 >> All in favor? 00:11:17.780 --> 00:11:19.280 >> Aye. 00:11:19.280 --> 00:11:35.860 >> So, so now we are at item E, new investment reports. 00:11:35.860 --> 00:11:37.740 So I guess. 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:40.780 Yeah, so you requested last time that I provide information 00:11:40.780 --> 00:11:44.900 about council candidate filing, or sorry, 00:11:44.900 --> 00:11:48.340 financial campaign information. 00:11:48.340 --> 00:11:52.480 That letter is provided, the city secretary's office provided 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.560 that to me, so I included that just for your reference. 00:11:55.560 --> 00:12:02.560 And then the, in February we issued advisory opinion 24-001. 00:12:02.560 --> 00:12:06.300 It's already been issued, it's just as an FYI basically. 00:12:06.300 --> 00:12:08.140 And then in case you want to give direction based 00:12:08.140 --> 00:12:10.240 on what was decided or anything. 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.400 For our prior to the item, sorry. 00:12:13.400 --> 00:12:21.640 I can pull up the letter or the advisory opinion if you would like. 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:28.680 >> What do you, what's your pleasure? 00:12:28.680 --> 00:12:33.180 >> It's really if you have anything you would 00:12:33.180 --> 00:12:35.800 like to discuss, we don't have to do anything. 00:12:35.800 --> 00:12:38.760 Just for informational purposes. 00:12:38.760 --> 00:12:42.360 >> I read over it in the final minute, but I need to hear. 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.200 I guess, I guess it needs to be a motion for this. 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.040 >> It doesn't have to be a motion. 00:12:46.040 --> 00:12:47.040 >> Oh, okay. 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:53.180 Anybody have any, any problems with just moving on or. 00:12:53.180 --> 00:12:56.380 >> Did you want to talk more about the finance stuff? 00:12:56.380 --> 00:12:57.680 >> It wouldn't be, we wouldn't be able 00:12:57.680 --> 00:12:59.720 to change the advisory opinion, right? 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.220 Because that panel was, that panel had the, 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:05.720 had the facts in front of them, and they made the decision. 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.320 And so, is this the one that you and I did? 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.400 Is that, okay. 00:13:11.400 --> 00:13:12.560 >> Do you agree with your decision? 00:13:12.560 --> 00:13:15.700 >> I do agree with my decision. 00:13:15.700 --> 00:13:16.360 >> Then we're good. 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.360 >> Sometimes things come up that we're like, oh, 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.200 we may need to look at the code in this section. 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.340 So that's why, you know, make sure you all are aware 00:13:22.340 --> 00:13:26.640 when advisory opinions are issued, what they say, you know. 00:13:26.640 --> 00:13:29.140 >> This is a confusing question. 00:13:29.140 --> 00:13:31.620 >> That's, that was the only thing is like I was just curious 00:13:31.620 --> 00:13:33.720 about the question just because, but I don't think 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.160 that there needs to be any conversation about it because. 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:38.980 >> No, it's a confusing question. 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:40.520 And I think you guys did a good job. 00:13:40.520 --> 00:13:41.660 >> Thank you. 00:13:41.660 --> 00:13:43.860 >> We move on. 00:13:43.860 --> 00:13:45.200 Well, we are clipping right through. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.000 We are now to our last agenda item. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.340 >> So it's meeting we've had in a while. 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:53.000 [ Laughter ] 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.580 >> DOE 24-016, receive a report, hold a discussion, 00:13:57.580 --> 00:14:01.840 and give staff direction regarding future meeting topics. 00:14:03.980 --> 00:14:09.860 >> So if you look at the post, I guess you can pull that up. 00:14:09.860 --> 00:14:29.200 >> I like this sheet better, but this one has all the options 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.840 that we discussed discussing at some point. 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.620 And then I guess you postponed this to the definition 00:14:35.620 --> 00:14:37.540 of complainant will come back next meeting. 00:14:37.540 --> 00:14:40.020 And then we currently don't have anything else on the agenda 00:14:40.020 --> 00:14:44.180 that you've given direction to discuss. 00:14:44.180 --> 00:14:49.360 >> I would like to suggest that we maybe not meet next April 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:53.560 because I don't know, I mean this April or the next meeting 00:14:53.560 --> 00:14:58.840 or maybe not in May because I want to hear a response 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.940 from city council first and I don't know why we're going 00:15:02.940 --> 00:15:06.180 to keep trying to turn on all these things that we're interested 00:15:06.180 --> 00:15:09.040 in changing without hearing. 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:09.980 >> You think? 00:15:09.980 --> 00:15:11.280 >> Yeah. 00:15:11.280 --> 00:15:13.580 >> Another decision. 00:15:13.580 --> 00:15:16.580 >> The one thing that I'm concerned about if we're not 00:15:16.580 --> 00:15:19.460 meeting, if we're not meeting in April or May, 00:15:19.460 --> 00:15:24.360 that that may throw us off in terms of our meetings 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.360 for the summer because I think it will be a whole lot more 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:32.340 difficult for people with traveling in June and July. 00:15:32.340 --> 00:15:35.300 So that would be my concern, 00:15:35.300 --> 00:15:38.140 especially since we have the definition of complainant. 00:15:38.140 --> 00:15:39.640 We have 30 minutes on there. 00:15:39.640 --> 00:15:43.420 So I would say when is the next city council meeting? 00:15:43.420 --> 00:15:45.040 When will this be presented? 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:47.620 >> This will be presented June 4th. 00:15:47.620 --> 00:15:49.560 So there will actually be three meetings 00:15:49.560 --> 00:15:51.460 of the board before that is discussed. 00:15:51.460 --> 00:15:53.160 >> Right. 00:15:53.160 --> 00:15:55.460 >> Or that I said a little bit. 00:15:55.460 --> 00:15:58.960 >> I guess my feeling is just that the last time we brought 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:04.800 up some very minor changes, it just got mowed down. 00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:09.300 And so now we're talking about something kind of big and -- 00:16:09.300 --> 00:16:13.680 >> I show you a concern. 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:14.480 >> Yeah. 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:15.980 >> Yeah. But I would -- 00:16:15.980 --> 00:16:18.740 I think that since it is only the three of us today 00:16:18.740 --> 00:16:23.580 or four of us, maybe we should keep the April meeting 00:16:23.580 --> 00:16:27.320 and move that definition of complainant 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:31.820 and then see if we need to meet in May. 00:16:31.820 --> 00:16:33.500 >> What do you guys think? 00:16:33.500 --> 00:16:38.740 >> And is that the one that Zoltman wanted to talk about? 00:16:38.740 --> 00:16:40.300 Okay. And so if he comes next time, 00:16:40.300 --> 00:16:45.140 he'll get his chance to talk about that. 00:16:45.140 --> 00:16:49.120 >> So we just -- and I think if we're still feeling this way, 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.520 next month and we still haven't gotten any kind of response 00:16:53.520 --> 00:16:58.920 under the apparent delay, then maybe we cancel May. 00:16:58.920 --> 00:17:02.320 >> So we're not going to get a response before June 4th 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:03.560 because that's when it's scheduled 00:17:03.560 --> 00:17:04.800 on the work session agenda. 00:17:04.800 --> 00:17:06.420 That's not really a decision council made. 00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:10.760 That's a decision based on the time available at work sessions. 00:17:10.760 --> 00:17:15.900 >> I just think this is really important 00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:18.100 and I don't know why they couldn't add it 00:17:18.100 --> 00:17:21.500 to something sooner than that. 00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:26.680 >> So I guess the question is do we want to have at least one 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:28.180 of the April or May meetings 00:17:28.180 --> 00:17:31.880 so we can do the definition of complainant? 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:36.260 >> April would be better to have them in skip May rather 00:17:36.260 --> 00:17:37.720 than vice versa, right? 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:38.560 >> True. 00:17:38.560 --> 00:17:39.900 >> I mean if we meet in -- 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:41.860 if we have our normally scheduled meeting in June, 00:17:41.860 --> 00:17:43.460 that would be after the -- 00:17:43.460 --> 00:17:45.200 >> No, it will be the day before. 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.500 >> It will be the day before. 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:49.060 >> So the next meeting will be July if we wait until -- 00:17:49.060 --> 00:17:52.240 >> And typically we have not met in July. 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:53.340 >> Correct. 00:17:53.340 --> 00:17:56.780 >> Because that is usually right around July 4th 00:17:56.780 --> 00:17:58.900 so we typically have not met in July. 00:17:58.900 --> 00:18:00.620 >> Well, the city council is going 00:18:00.620 --> 00:18:02.980 to unanimously approve our changes 00:18:02.980 --> 00:18:06.180 so there probably won't be any need to meet, right? 00:18:06.180 --> 00:18:07.480 >> That's a really good point. 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.460 >> We'll use the June meeting for a pep rally before this. 00:18:10.460 --> 00:18:14.700 [ Laughter ] 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:16.560 >> It's like when the kids take STAAR tests 00:18:16.560 --> 00:18:19.940 and have a pep rally on the day before. 00:18:19.940 --> 00:18:24.940 >> I would like to propose that we have an April meeting 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:26.740 and do the definition of complainant. 00:18:26.740 --> 00:18:29.640 >> Okay. And then we can revisit this issue -- 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.840 >> Because I would like to feel like we're doing something -- 00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:32.980 >> Yeah. 00:18:32.980 --> 00:18:34.620 >> Instead of kind of having three months where we're -- 00:18:34.620 --> 00:18:35.880 >> Yes. 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:40.460 >> Waiting around on the scheduling challenges. 00:18:40.460 --> 00:18:43.720 >> So the April meeting is on April, is it? 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.060 >> I believe it's on April 1st. 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:51.320 That's the first Monday of April, so. 00:18:51.320 --> 00:18:54.700 >> Okay. And then the May meeting is? 00:18:54.700 --> 00:18:56.140 >> The 13th. 00:18:56.140 --> 00:18:58.840 >> Because I will be out of town on the first Monday, 00:18:58.840 --> 00:19:00.840 which is the 6th. 00:19:00.840 --> 00:19:04.340 >> Oh, I have a problem with the 13th. 00:19:04.340 --> 00:19:05.300 >> May 13th? 00:19:05.300 --> 00:19:06.380 >> Yeah. 00:19:06.380 --> 00:19:09.780 >> Well, we might skip that one, right? 00:19:09.780 --> 00:19:11.580 >> That would help me, but -- 00:19:11.580 --> 00:19:14.880 >> Well, we can decide to skip the May meeting in April. 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:16.160 >> Yes. 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.160 >> If we're meeting, we can decide it. 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.660 >> Okay. Did you say that the May meeting would be on the -- 00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:22.020 >> The 13th, correct. 00:19:22.020 --> 00:19:23.600 >> So we're moving that one? 00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:25.000 >> Yes. I will be out of town on the 6th. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.400 >> Okay. I already -- you -- 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.300 >> Unfortunately, no one else is able to do this. 00:19:28.300 --> 00:19:30.500 >> No, you told us -- you told us about this 00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:32.200 because I already changed my schedule. 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.500 >> I remember that too. 00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:34.800 >> Thank you. 00:19:34.800 --> 00:19:43.080 >> So the direction is to meet in April 00:19:43.080 --> 00:19:47.280 as scheduled with the definition of the planet being the only 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:48.620 thing on the agenda at this time, 00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:50.820 besides the normal things. 00:19:50.820 --> 00:19:51.520 >> Yeah. 00:19:51.520 --> 00:19:54.060 >> All right. 00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:57.500 >> Anything else for this agenda item? 00:19:57.500 --> 00:20:07.600 Any other topics you want to put into April? 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:09.180 Not at this time. 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:10.680 >> I don't have anything. 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:19.020 >> Okay. Well, then, it is now 5:50 p.m. 00:20:19.020 --> 00:20:21.480 and this meeting is adjourned.