>> Good evening, and welcome to the Indian Depth Traffic Safety Commission.
It is Monday, the 3rd, 2019.
We have a quorum at 5.30, and we'll get started.
So, has everyone had an opportunity to read the minutes?
>> I got a correction.
>> Okay.
We have one correction.
>> I wasn't here.
And it says I was.
I don't know what that says about me, but.
>> We felt your presence.
>> My second miss in four years.
>> Okay.
Okay.
>> And it was excused.
>> Okay.
So we have an amendment to the April 1st minutes taking Jim off as attendance.
Any other corrections?
>> I make a motion we accept with the corrections.
>> Okay.
Do I have a second?
>> I second.
>> Okay.
And everyone in favor?
Aye.
>> Aye.
>> Okay.
Opposed?
Okay.
Passes unanimously.
1B, which is TSC 19-024, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff
direction regarding bicycle and pedestrian crossings of US 380.
Thank you.
>> Good evening.
Mark Alton, bicycle and pedestrian coordinator.
I'm going to talk about a number of different crossings on US 380, specifically 10 crossings
in the center of town, sort of within the beltway, if you will, and I'm going to quickly
discuss them from west to east.
I believe two months ago I spoke about 35 and how it can sometimes function as a barrier
within town, and it is true that university can also sometimes function as that, although
because we have the traffic lights along the way, and it has more crossings, it is a little
more accessible, but I'm going to talk about each of these.
So here's a list of each of the intersections.
We'll start with town center trail.
This is in one of the recently developed areas.
It has really good sidewalk, ramp, crosswalk infrastructure.
Really my only complaint about this is the huge distances that you have to cross.
We're talking 120 to 140 feet, so at distances like that you might look at putting medians
or something in the middle so that people don't get caught partly through the intersection.
Next is Bonnie Bray.
This one also has some pretty good infrastructure, and generally as we go west to east, we have
better infrastructure to the west, and it gets less good as you go to the east.
So Bonnie Bray has ped heads, push buttons, crosswalks, and Bonnie Bray, as part of its
project, a text up project to upgrade it, will be receiving a 10-foot path adjacent
to it, which will further improve not just the specific crossing, but the through travel
from areas south of university to areas north of university, because that's a part of this
too, whether or not you can cross safely once you get to the far side, can you then continue
on?
So that's also a consideration here, and that will be coming in phases.
Malone Street, we just, in the last year, we finished the bike lanes on the south side.
We moved that to two lanes with a center median for turns.
This also has good pedestrian infrastructure specifically in the intersection, though here
is an example of, if you look to the north, there are not sidewalks on that west side
that continue to the north.
We do have them on the east side.
We've also looked at continuing the bike lanes to the north, but we just don't have the right
of way width currently to do that, but on the south, those lanes connect all the way
to the campus, which is a great thing.
Moving on to Fulton, and again, here to the north, our sidewalk infrastructure really
disappears.
We only have two out of a possible four crosswalks, so you can cross in both an east-west and
north-south direction, although depending where you're coming from, you, for instance,
if you're at that northeast corner, you would be stranded.
There's not a way to come from there, and we've received some communications about this.
One thing to keep in mind, too, is we don't have full control of this.
TxDOT has jurisdiction there, and so we do have to work through them.
Let's see what we have next.
On to Alice.
This is another example of a partial intersection.
We've received some specific complaints about this northeast corner specifically, because
if you cross that, say if you're in a mobility device or something, there is not an accessible
way.
You get here, and then you're basically on an island currently, and that's some issues
with right-of-way ownership and things like that, but we are looking at ways it can be
updated.
Carroll.
This one has good crossing infrastructure, but north and south of Carroll, getting to
it on a bike at least, I would recommend against riding on Carroll as a cyclist in general.
It's a high-speed, high-volume road, although you do have alternatives to the east and the
west, but the actual crossing is pretty good.
We've got crosswalks in all four crossings, and ped head signals, and push buttons, and
so forth.
Elm and Locust.
These are also pretty good.
If I had a wish list, I'd get some paint, get some money for crosswalk painting.
Just touch those up a little bit so they're a little more visible, but in general, these
are pretty good north-south corridors, especially for cyclists.
They don't have designated bike lanes, but the traffic volume is lower, certainly, than
Carroll and slower, and they're definitely more friendly to bicycles.
Let's see, any other points there?
Yeah, so these are much better alternatives than Carroll.
On to Bell.
Bell's another example of one where south of the university, it's actually quite good.
You've got great sidewalks, you've got great bike lanes there, going through the TWU campus.
Now, once you get to the north, the sidewalks do continue, but you lose your bike lanes.
It's a lower-volume, lower-speed road, though, but you don't have a lot of space.
It's fairly narrow lanes, so if I had a wish list, that would be improved as well on the
north side, and I will mention, too, we're in the midst of, we've just kicked off our
mobility plan, and so all of these things will be considered as part of that, and there
will be an update to the bicycle element to that plan.
So we're going to be taking a closer look at many of these things.
On to Riddell.
This one's missing.
It's an awkward intersection with the strange angles.
You have that island there, and so if you got to the island, you can get to the ramp,
but there's no continuation.
So this is another one, we're on the north side, we're missing some infrastructure, and
to the south side, too, it's actually not very good.
It's not a high-speed road.
Ideally, when TWU redevelops that golf course area, this can also be improved, because I
think traffic in that area will certainly increase once that gets redeveloped.
Nottingham.
This is a low-volume road, and to the north, this goes into the neighborhood.
You've got an elementary school just off of Nottingham to the north.
Lower volume.
The actual crossing is substandard.
You're missing your crosswalk on the west side.
It's very faded on the east side.
There are, though, push buttons and head heads.
The sidewalk infrastructure, while we do have the ramps, they don't connect, especially
not on the north side.
Now, on the south side, you do have some connections.
I think there's a school and a church down there.
Onto Old North.
This is the final one before we get to the east side.
So the ramps are in place, but that's about it.
There are not connecting sidewalks in that area.
There's only one marked crosswalk, three out of the four ped signals and ped heads are in place.
To the north, I'd say Old North is quite a bicycle-friendly road.
It has a line delineating a space next to the curb, which it's not specifically called
out as a bike lane.
So sometimes cars park there, but also a lot of the time, cars are not parked there and
it can be used as a bike lane.
That's also fairly low volume.
Now on the south side, you've got a tighter road and faster traffic going between University
and Mingo down there.
So again, if I had my magic wish box, I would widen the right-of-way there, widen the road
to get some space for bicyclists to travel through there and there is no sidewalk there.
So that's a brief summary of what the situation is currently.
The mobility plan is underway and we will be looking further into a lot of these things
in specific locations where improvements can be made so that we can program future projects.
So that concludes my presentation.
I'm happy to answer any questions.
I have a question.
I have a question as a bicyclist, and I've read many of these, but not all of them.
Because we go as a group, sometimes what we have to do is we have to push the button to
get across because you don't have very many -- when the light changes, it's really geared
towards cars, and so when you go across as a bicycle, you really have to book it to get
across in order to make it before the light turns.
So sometimes what we do is we'll -- if there's a push button, we'll try and hit the push
button, but sometimes that's an issue, too, because if you move up and you move over to
push the button, then the car behind you will move up and then you no longer have your place
in line to get ahead.
Is there -- I'm looking for a solution to that.
Is there a way to get a button that's closer, or, you know --
Well, I think a lot of our signals are tripped by loops, which is like an electromagnetic
thing, and bikes don't really have the mass to trip that.
Now, there are some newer ones, I understand, that are like lasers or something.
I think Todd can enlighten us.
So we are converting a lot of our older signals to video and radar detection.
I think that exists there, but that's still a little -- and Brian could probably speak
to some of this as well.
It's a little harder even then to pick up the cyclists unless they're in mass.
So we can look at some alternatives, and Brian, you may know of some alternatives to look
into.
All right.
I'm going to try this.
Okay.
So there is technology out there to detect cyclists specifically, and a lot of that is
key to having the bike box at the front.
So you know where to look to extend -- there's a lot of different ways you can do that.
If there's a cyclist in the bike box, then you can actually extend the green so that
it provides that time that you're needing to get across, more like a pedestrian or somewhere
between a pedestrian and an auto.
To answer your first question, is there -- yes, there are some opportunities that we have.
In fact, there are some obligations that we have on a lot of our signals, and I'm new,
so I'm assuming that -- I come from Fort Worth, so their signals probably are similar to yours,
and some of them are not to current standards where the push buttons have to be a certain
distance from the ramp.
Okay.
A lot of them are on the actual upright of the signal, and that really no longer satisfies
the requirement.
So there are some other techniques that we can put a little -- what we call a pedestal
that's closer to, so you don't have to lose your place in line, but the bike detection,
which is what a lot of cities are moving towards, might be a better solution where you actually
paint the box -- you may have seen these -- the bike box, and so that that sensor knows
where to look to see if there's a bike waiting in the queue.
So that also assumes that the cyclist knows that that bike box is for them, and they need
to queue up in there to get detected, or it's going to detect the vehicles and not extend
that green for the cycles.
Got it.
It's a little education on everyone's part.
Yeah.
But, I mean, it's a learning curve, but there are a couple of different ways we can address
your issue with the crossing times.
Okay.
That'd be good.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'm glad you brought this up, because the last few times I've been on the university,
I've noticed at Fulton, some people with carts and stuff heading eastbound, right where your
arrow is, and then they will cut, they will go down the ramp, and then they will -- exactly
what you're doing, except they will cross into traffic and go against traffic up there,
and there's just potential for somebody getting there.
Yeah.
Because like when you do sidewalks and anywhere, you start looking for the travel patterns
and where where is where people are walking, and these people aren't going to normally,
and most of us aren't going to, bounce down, bounce over, and then bounce up a couple of
blocks down.
It's just not human nature to do that.
But I understand you have some of the problems with my property, but that's -- I've seen
at least two people pulling carts, going to front or whatever, having to do that.
Both of these intersections, Fulton and Alice, we've had a lot of commentary recently, and
so they're rising to the top as far as priorities and finding solutions.
Right.
And on Riddell, because I ride my bike through Riddell quite often, I don't have that much
of a problem, but it is a weird angle of intersection as a driver and as a cyclist, because it's
almost as -- it looks like it's longer to go across, but --
Okay, there we go.
Some better marking and all of that.
The other problem is down Riddell.
I don't believe there's sidewalk or usable sidewalk, and I see several people on motorized
wheelchairs and scooters going over Pertain.
I'm on the wrong road, that's -- okay, here we are, here we are.
Yeah.
It's spotty.
If you go south a little bit, and keep going until we get to Mingo.
Okay, yeah.
And there -- I've seen a motorized wheelchair on Mingo, which is --
Yes.
Okay, now if you go east a little bit to Pertain, okay, there's Pertain.
People are coming -- there's a nursing home or assisted living center down in Latimore,
and people are coming down across Pertain, down Mingo and up Riddell, and I've seen
at least two different people doing this.
So some of those will be resolved when we take Riddell under construction.
As a capital project, Riddell and Mingo are both under study right now, traffic study,
both for vehicles, peds, cyclists.
And then in a future bond program, we would be realigning Riddell as a four-lane roadway
with a median and then sidewalks on both sides and the bicycle connectivity.
It would also turn to where it's not skewed coming across Mingo.
So it would cross Mingo perpendicular, and then that would be the only crossing across
the railroad tracks.
Pertain, we would disconnect from the railroad, and so would Willis.
So you'd have Riddell with sidewalks and full pedestrian accommodations there to make that
move.
It's just a matter of time getting the funding to make that happen.
In the interim, we can continue to work with TWU, see if maybe there's some other things
we could do in that spot as far as sidewalks and accommodations.
And if you go up to where Old North actually, Mockingbird, and yeah, Mockingbird, go, yeah,
right there, that intersection, we may need to be careful with marking.
Well, down below, Mingo and Mockingbird.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh, that's about the weirdest intersection.
Because that's a funny intersection.
Yeah.
Well, that's also part of that Mingo Road project.
Right.
So Mingo and Riddell is one project, and Mingo will come all the way down to the crossing
under the University Drive.
Yeah, we have to stop talking about Mingo.
So I always have a concern about the 380 and Malone crossing.
They're used to, of course, that is currently, and this may become a non-issue, but it's
still going to take a couple years because Newton Razor is one block away, and it serves
all of the children in the neighborhood to the north of 380.
Now, Newton Razor is going to, within five years, four or five years, move over to where
Denton High is.
So that's going to, their baseball field is going to become Newton Razor.
So that's going to create a whole new, you know, kiddie traffic pattern.
And that's why there used to be a Refuge Island on Malone, and I have a continued concern
about that because we're still going to have, no matter where Newton Razor is, we're still
going to have children needing to cross University.
And I believe we have crossing guards up there, but you still, that's a lot of space.
It's a long way.
Yeah.
We've got about 100 feet.
So I don't know what will be eventually when Razor is moved.
That might still be the path that those students take because it will either be Malone or it'll
be Fulton.
So Fulton could get heavier foot traffic or they could continue up Malone.
So I guess I was going to feel, like, would it ever feel safer to their parents?
Yes.
Our job is to provide staff with direction, is what would we like to direct?
We've made some comments, some concerns.
We don't need a recommendation, but we need --
Well, you provided some good input.
Yeah, the comments and the response.
This is in the works.
Have you looked at NCTC when they open in the fall, if you need anything extra there?
No.
But that's a good thing to look at, yeah.
Okay.
Does anybody have anything else then on item 1B?
Okay.
We'll move on to 1C, which is TSC 19-025, to receive a report about the planned roadway
updates for Parkway Street, Oakland Street, from Carroll Boulevard to Withers.
Good afternoon, everyone.
My name is Pamela Muthal.
I am a traffic engineer with the City of Denton.
I will be presenting on this item in the following two.
So this first item, staff wanted to provide the future plans for Parkway/Oakland from
Carroll all the way to Withers Street.
So this is a two-part project.
The first part would be to conduct a traffic signal warrant analysis for Parkway at Elm
Street, right here, and Parkway at Locust.
So we believe the volumes have tremendously have gone down along Parkway since signals
were installed in 1983.
So we have the collected volumes.
We just need to actually conduct a study, and if they do not warrant any more, we will
submit the report to TechStat for review and approval.
And then the second part, after we conduct the traffic signal warrant analysis, we will
update the cross-section, or we're proposing to update the cross-section from the current
configuration of four lanes undivided to provide one lane on each direction with a center turn
lane and a bike lane on each side.
We feel this is ideal for the area it's located, for Parkway and Oakland.
There's the library, it's primarily residential, and that's all I have for this item.
Any questions?
What is the timeline for that?
Do you have a proposed timeline?
So the warrant analysis, we will get it done soon, maybe a week or two.
We'll see what the results show, and then I will submit it to TechStat.
We believe once that is approved and gone through TechStat, it'll take about four to
six months to do the work on Parkway and Oakland.
So if that does not warrant, what will happen is these two intersections will become two
way stop control, so Parkway will be stopped.
There will be plans to put the signals on flash and get the motorist in the area, citizens
used to having to stop at the intersection before we completely remove the signals.
I have a question.
Yes.
So you're going, can we go to Withers?
So you're going up to Withers, right?
And then it stops there.
So above that, then there wouldn't be a bike lane, right, past Withers?
Is the road, I guess, not as wide and it doesn't accommodate it?
Is that why?
Maybe.
I think you're probably right.
It is fairly narrow.
Yeah, it looks, it definitely looks more narrow because it doesn't have that turn lane.
And then I don't know if this is a bike route, cannot tell, but you're probably correct.
Not too positive on that.
Because I think it narrows and then it kind of widens out later again.
I noticed that some work had been done on Oakland clearing out some of the brush across
from the library.
Yes, we received a citizen concern about this intersection, that it was hard to see the
oncoming traffic.
So we got with one of the staff members at the city and they were able to clear out a
lot of that, the bushes and landscape.
It greatly improved the sight line.
Oh, great.
Thank you.
No problem.
Okay, I have one card to speak on this item.
Mary Anderson.
Yes.
Come on up.
State your name and address.
Hi, Mary Anderson, I-24 West Oak.
I work at TWU.
I live on Oak.
Guess what street I use every day to go to work and back?
Parkway.
Did I really understand that you want to take the lights out on Locust and Elm and put stop
signs?
Do you have any idea?
I mean, I don't know when you're doing your traffic survey, but trust me, I'll never get
to work.
The students will never get to work.
There will be more accidents and a lot of congestion.
It just is not well thought out.
There's a lot of traffic around there and I want to thank you for clearing that brush
out, by the way, because I figured the homeless were living in there because I drive by it
every day, every day.
You cannot take the stop lights out and the bikes will never get across because they can't
go fast enough to beat the people coming down Locust.
The dividend in Elm is the only thing that keeps that from being any faster.
They hit it, and they have to slow down.
But if you take out these lights, nobody's going to get to school on time.
There's going to be more accidents.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Please don't do that.
Thank you.
Okay.
Does anybody have anything else?
On this one?
Okay.
Thank you.
Or did you have anything else to tell us?
No.
Okay.
All right, so that brings us to item 1D, TSC 19-026, which is to receive a report, hold
a discussion, and make a recommendation to City Council for prohibiting on-street parking
on the north side of Greg Street between Fulton and Denton Street.
Yes, so staff is recommending to restrict on-street parking on the north side of Greg
Street from Fulton all the way to Denton Street.
We've received several citizen concerns of the width and being able to safely maneuver
over across Greg Street, and currently, the pavement width from Fulton to Amarillo is
26 feet wide.
From Amarillo to Mounds is 25 feet, and from Mounds to Denton Street is 28 feet.
So considering that a fire truck needs about 20 feet to maneuver through a road that only
leaves 5 to 8 feet for parking, so that's primarily the reason why we would like to
recommend restricting on-street parking on one side of Greg Street.
I looked at this corridor, and I decided to recommend no parking on the north for several
reasons.
I believe there are more trash bins and larger trash bins that need to be picked up by the
city trucks, so that should help out conduct the work.
On the south side, it appears there's more parking spaces versus the north based on the
driveway widths and the number of driveways in total along this corridor.
And then, just from the aerial, it looks like the majority of people are parking on the
south, and restricting the parking on the north will also help the visibility for all
the residents and the driveways exiting and entering as there won't be an obstruction
in front of them.
So for those reasons, the city of Denton is recommending to restrict on-street parking
on Greg from Fulton to Denton.
That's all I have for this item.
Looks like also restricting parking on the north side of Greg will potentially cut down
then on people parking too close to the Amarillo intersection.
Yes.
That was another big factor.
Yeah, that's just collateral damage right there.
It could take, you know, minimize that.
Exactly.
Any questions?
Seems reasonable to me.
Okay.
We have cards for people wishing to comment either by speaking or not.
On top, I have Brian Morrison, 305 Mounts Avenue, who supports this recommendation.
Since Greg Street is so narrow, we've needed one-sided parking for some time.
The north side is the correct side for no parking as there are many more driveways and
intersections on that side.
So Brian Morrison in support of the recommendation.
Vicki Morrison also does not want to speak.
Vicki Morrison, 305 Mounts Avenue, supports the recommendation.
UNT students park on both sides of Greg Street, making it very difficult to go in and out
of driveway.
I live on the corner of Mounts and Greg.
Driveway is on Greg Street.
Greg Street is too narrow for more than one-sided parking.
North side is best.
And wishing to speak, Mary Anderson.
I live here and I went to the big meeting they had on safety and traffic and everything
and I'm so glad that people have started to respond to this.
I want to thank everybody.
It's very dangerous to go down Greg all together.
I'm a little disappointed that you're going for the north side.
I say this because my driveway is right here.
I can't get out.
I can't see because nobody parks far enough away from my driveway to get out.
I commonly try to get cars towed because I can't get out of my driveway because I'm also
very close to Amarillo and it doesn't seem to show here but in case you're in a mobility,
the real trick is right here.
That's usually garbage dumpster and well, that means everybody has to kind of go around.
I think what you need to do is eliminate parking on this side.
Already there is no parking in front of the school.
I think if you eliminate it on this side, it would -- if you eliminate it over here,
you're not eliminating that much and all the people that overpark here because they gave
them all separate addresses, thank you very much, are all going to wind up blocking my
driveway anyway.
So unless you're willing to put the right markers on there and enforce them because the
real problem is I thank the policeman that comes by every time I see him for ticketing
the cars that park right to here, right to here.
You cannot see to get in.
I would much prefer to have no parking on the south side of the street.
I 100% agree that you have to take it away.
I really would like some parking but I don't know how you saw that other -- you know, I
know that they say that you can't use the stickers and stuff and it wouldn't matter
because the people here have about 10 cars all the time and in fact park right in front
of my driveway all the time and they're -- because there are garbages on the way.
So I would really prefer that you come up -- I mean, there's -- it turns out that most
of these are students and yes, they have lots of cars but they are required by city code
to have how many parking spaces for each address?
There is a code for this, right?
There's at least -- I think the answer is four spaces per residence to supply.
So they should all -- each one of these should be able to park on their own street, in their
own driveway.
So the real reason is visibility getting out and being as they're not here and I am, I
would prefer you to park them on because they don't care, clearly.
You hung tags.
Take it off for the south side.
>> Thank you.
We also have Donna Morris speaking on this item.
>> Hello, I'm Donna Morris, 918 West Oak, right next door to Mary.
First of all, I want to thank you all so much for doing this.
Also from your picture, school wasn't in session when you took this, was it?
When school's in session, there are no parking spaces, period.
A couple things I would like to ask.
When you make your no parking on one side and parking on the other side, are you going
to mark off the parking spaces like you did on Oak Street so that this many cars -- you
know, the cars aren't parking up to the edge of the driveways, that that parking thing
comes -- because we have a big problem with somebody.
We have our garages comes out onto Greg Street and it's a two-car wide driveway and half
of car is on each side of the driveway hanging over.
So please mark them well that they're off.
Also, don't even consider a bicycle laying there.
[ Laughter ]
We have for years said you couldn't get a fire truck down there on garbage days.
I don't know how they do it with those garbage trucks.
It's horrible.
I am so glad you are making it no parking on one side.
I'm not going to argue this side or that side if you're going to put that parking on my
side, make sure that it's marked that people aren't still parking in my driveway.
And thank you, and will you be out tomorrow morning to do this?
[ Laughter ]
Thank you.
One thing I forgot to mention is if you leave southside parking, we already lost our front
yard and now we're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people
that park badly.
We're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people that park badly.
On Oak Street, maybe a good solution for Greg, something.
And I have one more card, Bob Crouch, who also wishes to speak.
My name is Bob Crouch and I own the properties at 912 and 912 and a half Greg and the house
that faces the corner of Greg and Amarillo and thank you very much for bringing this
project up.
I've talked to the fire department and the police department for some 25 to 30 years
and this is the finally we're getting to it.
I would definitely support the no parking on the north side of the street and there's
driveways on all the houses facing Greg.
Their driveways are blocked a lot of the times.
Fortunately, my two car driveway, the duplex on Greg, I don't have a problem with but as
far as the trash is concerned we have a major problem and I cannot even imagine how a trashman
can get that truck down there but they do.
Be glad to answer any questions.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
We are needing to make a recommendation to city council.
So I have a question.
Can we go back down to that side?
So, so they're talking about having it, your recommendation is on the south, right?
No parking on the north.
Parking on the south.
So north is up, south is down.
Yes.
Is that correct?
Yes.
So, so with this green space with right here without any houses there, could you just have
like, I don't know, would that be more, could you have more parking just there and not on
the other side?
I mean, would that accommodate more people?
I believe there's already a no parking restriction.
I went into street view and didn't see any signs.
So we just want to ensure with this, that it is no parking.
I believe there already is.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
And I think that that is part of the current bus path because that's the south side of
Calhoun.
Oh, okay.
So I think that the pattern, I think that the bus pattern has traveled Gregg street.
It travels Mounts, so I think that that's part of the reason that's already been.
Okay.
I didn't know if there was any way you could like do a little flip and...
They come down to that and they don't go down Mounts because it's too narrow.
The teams, the sports teams go down Mounts, the buses do.
Yeah.
That's actually Mounts.
Which is, yeah.
Okay.
Anybody...
So the lesser of two evils is what we're going for here.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anybody want to put forward a recommendation?
Well, it doesn't seem to me like it's an easy solution, but I'm going to go with your recommendation.
Okay.
So we...
Second.
Okay.
I understand the removal of prohibiting on-street parking on the north side of Gregg Street.
We have a second.
Everyone in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
Okay.
That's it.
So yes, take this recommendation to city council please.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Question.
Do you need to put those parking blocks on that too?
No.
That would be separate.
We would just work.
Okay.
Any other concerns could be noted.
I noted.
Yes.
I made your recommendation which I like.
Okay.
That brings us to item 1E, TSC 19-027, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion,
and make a recommendation to city council for prohibiting on-street parking on Jago Street
at the northeast corner of Jago and West Oak.
Yes.
So this originated as a request from the police department.
So this section of the road is about 25 feet long.
And according to our chapter 18 code of ordinance for the city of Denton, you are not allowed
to park within 30 feet of a controlled intersection and five feet from a driveway.
So if you add that up, that's 35 feet.
So this little area is restricted for parking.
So basically, what we are recommending is to do something similar to Bradley Street
and put the sign, no parking standing or stopping on pavement corner to here.
Just to help the police department for enforcement, visibility, turning radius, you name it, safety.
It's just this side of the intersection.
It's really one parking spot.
It's one parking spot.
Or two if you really want to watch.
And I didn't ask for the number of citations, but it was enough to where an officer brought
this to my attention.
And that's all I have for this item.
Questions?
I guess my question is, if it's already in the ordinance and no parking there, why do
you have to ask permission for a sign?
It seems like you should just put the ordinance is there.
That is true.
Did you hear from anybody?
No, not for this one.
Yes, and I did not receive any calls or objections.
I have a question, what's the parking like on the other side?
On the other side?
Well the others on Jago Street, that's a turn lane so no one can park here already.
But someone's parking here and it's a bike route.
It seems like it would just cause trouble for somebody to turn and suddenly there would
be somebody there.
Exactly.
Looks easy.
Okay, looks easy but we have to make a recommendation to City Council.
And we've got a second, okay, everyone in favor, aye?
Aye.
Opposed?
It's unanimous.
Okay, we'll sign up.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you very much.
Okay, that brings us to item 1F, which is TSC 19-028, these staff reports including
the matrix.
Hi, Todd Estes, City Engineer, Inflation Pre-TM-MUIC.
So in several items on here, number one, the attendance message, we've included the attendance
ordinance, or at least the information in your backup in regard to attendance on committees,
boards and commissions.
That information is there for you to review, there will be an item coming forward next
month at the next meeting where that item will pertain to that discussion.
So that's there for your review, we just ask that you please take a look at that item.
As for the street construction report, we've included last week's street construction
report, so you can see the closures in the backup, any questions on that item or any
of the closures included in that item, we'd be glad to answer those if we can.
I've got one.
Yes, sir.
Why did you have to extend another month on the EGLE, the one block on the EGLE?
We ran into multiple utility conflicts out there that weren't known at the time when
construction started, they were franchise utility issues, so we got those resolved and
we'll be back on schedule as quickly as we can, but it did cause the construction delay
to go a little bit longer.
And then moving on to the matrix, we added, Mr. Rowan's comment earlier to the matrix,
if there are any other items on the matrix, I don't have an update this week, we'll bring
an update next month to those items, but if there's anything we need to add to the matrix,
we'll be willing to add those items now.
Usually we like to give pre-tem like 10 or 15 items apiece.
And by we, since Brian asked, Brian Yon is our new city traffic engineer, so he will
be taking over staff liaison duties, so when I say we, I really mean Brian.
Really, yes.
Yeah, we'll go easy on you this month.
Save them up for July.
If there's any questions, I'm about to answer them, but that's it for this month.
Okay.
Anything?
Nothing.
Okay.
If we have nothing else, we are adjourned for the month.
Okay.
It's 6/20.
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