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 >> Good evening, and welcome to the Indian Depth Traffic Safety Commission.

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 It is Monday, the 3rd, 2019.

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 We have a quorum at 5.30, and we'll get started.

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 So, has everyone had an opportunity to read the minutes?

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 We have one correction.

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 >> I wasn't here.

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 I don't know what that says about me, but.

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 >> My second miss in four years.

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 So we have an amendment to the April 1st minutes taking Jim off as attendance.

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 Any other corrections?

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 >> I make a motion we accept with the corrections.

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 1B, which is TSC 19-024, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff

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 direction regarding bicycle and pedestrian crossings of US 380.

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 >> Good evening.

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 Mark Alton, bicycle and pedestrian coordinator.

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 I'm going to talk about a number of different crossings on US 380, specifically 10 crossings

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 in the center of town, sort of within the beltway, if you will, and I'm going to quickly

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 discuss them from west to east.

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 I believe two months ago I spoke about 35 and how it can sometimes function as a barrier

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 within town, and it is true that university can also sometimes function as that, although

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 because we have the traffic lights along the way, and it has more crossings, it is a little

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 more accessible, but I'm going to talk about each of these.

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 So here's a list of each of the intersections.

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 We'll start with town center trail.

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 This is in one of the recently developed areas.

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 It has really good sidewalk, ramp, crosswalk infrastructure.

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 Really my only complaint about this is the huge distances that you have to cross.

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 We're talking 120 to 140 feet, so at distances like that you might look at putting medians

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 or something in the middle so that people don't get caught partly through the intersection.

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 Next is Bonnie Bray.

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 This one also has some pretty good infrastructure, and generally as we go west to east, we have

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 better infrastructure to the west, and it gets less good as you go to the east.

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 So Bonnie Bray has ped heads, push buttons, crosswalks, and Bonnie Bray, as part of its

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 project, a text up project to upgrade it, will be receiving a 10-foot path adjacent

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 to it, which will further improve not just the specific crossing, but the through travel

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 from areas south of university to areas north of university, because that's a part of this

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 too, whether or not you can cross safely once you get to the far side, can you then continue

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 So that's also a consideration here, and that will be coming in phases.

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 Malone Street, we just, in the last year, we finished the bike lanes on the south side.

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 We moved that to two lanes with a center median for turns.

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 This also has good pedestrian infrastructure specifically in the intersection, though here

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 is an example of, if you look to the north, there are not sidewalks on that west side

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 that continue to the north.

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 We do have them on the east side.

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 We've also looked at continuing the bike lanes to the north, but we just don't have the right

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 of way width currently to do that, but on the south, those lanes connect all the way

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 to the campus, which is a great thing.

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 Moving on to Fulton, and again, here to the north, our sidewalk infrastructure really

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 disappears.

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 We only have two out of a possible four crosswalks, so you can cross in both an east-west and

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 north-south direction, although depending where you're coming from, you, for instance,

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 if you're at that northeast corner, you would be stranded.

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 There's not a way to come from there, and we've received some communications about this.

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 One thing to keep in mind, too, is we don't have full control of this.

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 TxDOT has jurisdiction there, and so we do have to work through them.

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 Let's see what we have next.

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 On to Alice.

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 This is another example of a partial intersection.

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 We've received some specific complaints about this northeast corner specifically, because

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 if you cross that, say if you're in a mobility device or something, there is not an accessible

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 You get here, and then you're basically on an island currently, and that's some issues

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 with right-of-way ownership and things like that, but we are looking at ways it can be

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 This one has good crossing infrastructure, but north and south of Carroll, getting to

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 it on a bike at least, I would recommend against riding on Carroll as a cyclist in general.

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 It's a high-speed, high-volume road, although you do have alternatives to the east and the

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 These are also pretty good.

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 If I had a wish list, I'd get some paint, get some money for crosswalk painting.

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 Just touch those up a little bit so they're a little more visible, but in general, these

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 They don't have designated bike lanes, but the traffic volume is lower, certainly, than

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 Carroll and slower, and they're definitely more friendly to bicycles.

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 Bell's another example of one where south of the university, it's actually quite good.

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 You've got great sidewalks, you've got great bike lanes there, going through the TWU campus.

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 Now, once you get to the north, the sidewalks do continue, but you lose your bike lanes.

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 It's a lower-volume, lower-speed road, though, but you don't have a lot of space.

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 It's fairly narrow lanes, so if I had a wish list, that would be improved as well on the

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 north side, and I will mention, too, we're in the midst of, we've just kicked off our

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 mobility plan, and so all of these things will be considered as part of that, and there

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 will be an update to the bicycle element to that plan.

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 So we're going to be taking a closer look at many of these things.

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 On to Riddell.

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 This one's missing.

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 It's an awkward intersection with the strange angles.

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 You have that island there, and so if you got to the island, you can get to the ramp,

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 but there's no continuation.

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 So this is another one, we're on the north side, we're missing some infrastructure, and

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 It's not a high-speed road.

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 Ideally, when TWU redevelops that golf course area, this can also be improved, because I

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 think traffic in that area will certainly increase once that gets redeveloped.

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 This is a low-volume road, and to the north, this goes into the neighborhood.

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 You've got an elementary school just off of Nottingham to the north.

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 Lower volume.

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 The actual crossing is substandard.

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 You're missing your crosswalk on the west side.

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 It's very faded on the east side.

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 There are, though, push buttons and head heads.

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 The sidewalk infrastructure, while we do have the ramps, they don't connect, especially

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 Now, on the south side, you do have some connections.

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 I think there's a school and a church down there.

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 This is the final one before we get to the east side.

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 There are not connecting sidewalks in that area.

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 There's only one marked crosswalk, three out of the four ped signals and ped heads are in place.

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 To the north, I'd say Old North is quite a bicycle-friendly road.

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 It has a line delineating a space next to the curb, which it's not specifically called

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 out as a bike lane.

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 So sometimes cars park there, but also a lot of the time, cars are not parked there and

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 it can be used as a bike lane.

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 That's also fairly low volume.

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 Now on the south side, you've got a tighter road and faster traffic going between University

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 and Mingo down there.

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 So again, if I had my magic wish box, I would widen the right-of-way there, widen the road

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 to get some space for bicyclists to travel through there and there is no sidewalk there.

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 So that's a brief summary of what the situation is currently.

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 The mobility plan is underway and we will be looking further into a lot of these things

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 in specific locations where improvements can be made so that we can program future projects.

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 I'm happy to answer any questions.

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 I have a question.

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 I have a question as a bicyclist, and I've read many of these, but not all of them.

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 Because we go as a group, sometimes what we have to do is we have to push the button to

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 get across because you don't have very many -- when the light changes, it's really geared

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 towards cars, and so when you go across as a bicycle, you really have to book it to get

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 across in order to make it before the light turns.

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 So sometimes what we do is we'll -- if there's a push button, we'll try and hit the push

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 button, but sometimes that's an issue, too, because if you move up and you move over to

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 push the button, then the car behind you will move up and then you no longer have your place

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 in line to get ahead.

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 Is there -- I'm looking for a solution to that.

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 Is there a way to get a button that's closer, or, you know --

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 Well, I think a lot of our signals are tripped by loops, which is like an electromagnetic

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 thing, and bikes don't really have the mass to trip that.

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 Now, there are some newer ones, I understand, that are like lasers or something.

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 I think Todd can enlighten us.

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 So we are converting a lot of our older signals to video and radar detection.

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 I think that exists there, but that's still a little -- and Brian could probably speak

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 to some of this as well.

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 It's a little harder even then to pick up the cyclists unless they're in mass.

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 So we can look at some alternatives, and Brian, you may know of some alternatives to look

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 So there is technology out there to detect cyclists specifically, and a lot of that is

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 key to having the bike box at the front.

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 So you know where to look to extend -- there's a lot of different ways you can do that.

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 If there's a cyclist in the bike box, then you can actually extend the green so that

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 it provides that time that you're needing to get across, more like a pedestrian or somewhere

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 between a pedestrian and an auto.

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 To answer your first question, is there -- yes, there are some opportunities that we have.

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 In fact, there are some obligations that we have on a lot of our signals, and I'm new,

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 so I'm assuming that -- I come from Fort Worth, so their signals probably are similar to yours,

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 and some of them are not to current standards where the push buttons have to be a certain

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 A lot of them are on the actual upright of the signal, and that really no longer satisfies

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 So there are some other techniques that we can put a little -- what we call a pedestal

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 that's closer to, so you don't have to lose your place in line, but the bike detection,

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 which is what a lot of cities are moving towards, might be a better solution where you actually

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 paint the box -- you may have seen these -- the bike box, and so that that sensor knows

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 where to look to see if there's a bike waiting in the queue.

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 So that also assumes that the cyclist knows that that bike box is for them, and they need

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 to queue up in there to get detected, or it's going to detect the vehicles and not extend

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 that green for the cycles.

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 It's a little education on everyone's part.

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 But, I mean, it's a learning curve, but there are a couple of different ways we can address

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 your issue with the crossing times.

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 I'm glad you brought this up, because the last few times I've been on the university,

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 I've noticed at Fulton, some people with carts and stuff heading eastbound, right where your

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 arrow is, and then they will cut, they will go down the ramp, and then they will -- exactly

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 what you're doing, except they will cross into traffic and go against traffic up there,

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 and there's just potential for somebody getting there.

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 Because like when you do sidewalks and anywhere, you start looking for the travel patterns

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 and where where is where people are walking, and these people aren't going to normally,

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 and most of us aren't going to, bounce down, bounce over, and then bounce up a couple of

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 It's just not human nature to do that.

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 But I understand you have some of the problems with my property, but that's -- I've seen

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 at least two people pulling carts, going to front or whatever, having to do that.

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 Both of these intersections, Fulton and Alice, we've had a lot of commentary recently, and

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 so they're rising to the top as far as priorities and finding solutions.

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 And on Riddell, because I ride my bike through Riddell quite often, I don't have that much

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 of a problem, but it is a weird angle of intersection as a driver and as a cyclist, because it's

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 almost as -- it looks like it's longer to go across, but --

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 Some better marking and all of that.

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 The other problem is down Riddell.

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 I don't believe there's sidewalk or usable sidewalk, and I see several people on motorized

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 I'm on the wrong road, that's -- okay, here we are, here we are.

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 Yeah.

237
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 It's spotty.

238
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 It's spotty.

239
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 If you go south a little bit, and keep going until we get to Mingo.

240
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 Okay, yeah.

241
00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,240
 And there -- I've seen a motorized wheelchair on Mingo, which is --

242
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 Yes.

243
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:51,720
 Okay, now if you go east a little bit to Pertain, okay, there's Pertain.

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 People are coming -- there's a nursing home or assisted living center down in Latimore,

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 and people are coming down across Pertain, down Mingo and up Riddell, and I've seen

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 at least two different people doing this.

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 So some of those will be resolved when we take Riddell under construction.

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 As a capital project, Riddell and Mingo are both under study right now, traffic study,

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 both for vehicles, peds, cyclists.

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 And then in a future bond program, we would be realigning Riddell as a four-lane roadway

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 with a median and then sidewalks on both sides and the bicycle connectivity.

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 It would also turn to where it's not skewed coming across Mingo.

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 So it would cross Mingo perpendicular, and then that would be the only crossing across

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 the railroad tracks.

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 Pertain, we would disconnect from the railroad, and so would Willis.

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 So you'd have Riddell with sidewalks and full pedestrian accommodations there to make that

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 move.

258
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 It's just a matter of time getting the funding to make that happen.

259
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 In the interim, we can continue to work with TWU, see if maybe there's some other things

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 we could do in that spot as far as sidewalks and accommodations.

261
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 And if you go up to where Old North actually, Mockingbird, and yeah, Mockingbird, go, yeah,

262
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 right there, that intersection, we may need to be careful with marking.

263
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 Well, down below, Mingo and Mockingbird.

264
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 Oh, that's funny.

265
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,600
 Oh, that's about the weirdest intersection.

266
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 Because that's a funny intersection.

267
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,600
 Yeah.

268
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,560
 Well, that's also part of that Mingo Road project.

269
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 Right.

270
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 So Mingo and Riddell is one project, and Mingo will come all the way down to the crossing

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 under the University Drive.

272
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 Yeah, we have to stop talking about Mingo.

273
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 So I always have a concern about the 380 and Malone crossing.

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 They're used to, of course, that is currently, and this may become a non-issue, but it's

275
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 still going to take a couple years because Newton Razor is one block away, and it serves

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 all of the children in the neighborhood to the north of 380.

277
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 Now, Newton Razor is going to, within five years, four or five years, move over to where

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 Denton High is.

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 So that's going to, their baseball field is going to become Newton Razor.

280
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 So that's going to create a whole new, you know, kiddie traffic pattern.

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 And that's why there used to be a Refuge Island on Malone, and I have a continued concern

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 about that because we're still going to have, no matter where Newton Razor is, we're still

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 going to have children needing to cross University.

284
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 And I believe we have crossing guards up there, but you still, that's a lot of space.

285
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,480
 It's a long way.

286
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,480
 Yeah.

287
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 We've got about 100 feet.

288
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 So I don't know what will be eventually when Razor is moved.

289
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 That might still be the path that those students take because it will either be Malone or it'll

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 be Fulton.

291
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 So Fulton could get heavier foot traffic or they could continue up Malone.

292
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 So I guess I was going to feel, like, would it ever feel safer to their parents?

293
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 Yes.

294
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 Our job is to provide staff with direction, is what would we like to direct?

295
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 We've made some comments, some concerns.

296
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,200
 We don't need a recommendation, but we need --

297
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840
 Well, you provided some good input.

298
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,440
 Yeah, the comments and the response.

299
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 This is in the works.

300
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:24,920
 Have you looked at NCTC when they open in the fall, if you need anything extra there?

301
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,920
 No.

302
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,360
 But that's a good thing to look at, yeah.

303
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,360
 Okay.

304
00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:35,640
 Does anybody have anything else then on item 1B?

305
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,200
 Okay.

306
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:46,440
 We'll move on to 1C, which is TSC 19-025, to receive a report about the planned roadway

307
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 updates for Parkway Street, Oakland Street, from Carroll Boulevard to Withers.

308
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,040
 Good afternoon, everyone.

309
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,040
 My name is Pamela Muthal.

310
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 I am a traffic engineer with the City of Denton.

311
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 I will be presenting on this item in the following two.

312
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 So this first item, staff wanted to provide the future plans for Parkway/Oakland from

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 Carroll all the way to Withers Street.

314
00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:27,440
 So this is a two-part project.

315
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 The first part would be to conduct a traffic signal warrant analysis for Parkway at Elm

316
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 Street, right here, and Parkway at Locust.

317
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 So we believe the volumes have tremendously have gone down along Parkway since signals

318
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 were installed in 1983.

319
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 So we have the collected volumes.

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 We just need to actually conduct a study, and if they do not warrant any more, we will

321
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 submit the report to TechStat for review and approval.

322
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 And then the second part, after we conduct the traffic signal warrant analysis, we will

323
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 update the cross-section, or we're proposing to update the cross-section from the current

324
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 configuration of four lanes undivided to provide one lane on each direction with a center turn

325
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 lane and a bike lane on each side.

326
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 We feel this is ideal for the area it's located, for Parkway and Oakland.

327
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 There's the library, it's primarily residential, and that's all I have for this item.

328
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,840
 Any questions?

329
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,840
 What is the timeline for that?

330
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,840
 Do you have a proposed timeline?

331
00:23:52,840 --> 00:24:00,140
 So the warrant analysis, we will get it done soon, maybe a week or two.

332
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 We'll see what the results show, and then I will submit it to TechStat.

333
00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:10,760
 We believe once that is approved and gone through TechStat, it'll take about four to

334
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:17,800
 six months to do the work on Parkway and Oakland.

335
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,600
 So if that does not warrant, what will happen is these two intersections will become two

336
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 way stop control, so Parkway will be stopped.

337
00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:35,400
 There will be plans to put the signals on flash and get the motorist in the area, citizens

338
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 used to having to stop at the intersection before we completely remove the signals.

339
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,840
 I have a question.

340
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,840
 Yes.

341
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,280
 So you're going, can we go to Withers?

342
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,200
 So you're going up to Withers, right?

343
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,460
 And then it stops there.

344
00:24:53,460 --> 00:25:04,040
 So above that, then there wouldn't be a bike lane, right, past Withers?

345
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,240
 Is the road, I guess, not as wide and it doesn't accommodate it?

346
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,920
 Is that why?

347
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,960
 Maybe.

348
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,880
 I think you're probably right.

349
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,880
 It is fairly narrow.

350
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,400
 Yeah, it looks, it definitely looks more narrow because it doesn't have that turn lane.

351
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:32,600
 And then I don't know if this is a bike route, cannot tell, but you're probably correct.

352
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,300
 Not too positive on that.

353
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:43,920
 Because I think it narrows and then it kind of widens out later again.

354
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:55,840
 I noticed that some work had been done on Oakland clearing out some of the brush across

355
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 from the library.

356
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,820
 Yes, we received a citizen concern about this intersection, that it was hard to see the

357
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 oncoming traffic.

358
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:12,520
 So we got with one of the staff members at the city and they were able to clear out a

359
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 lot of that, the bushes and landscape.

360
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 It greatly improved the sight line.

361
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,680
 Oh, great.

362
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,680
 Thank you.

363
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,680
 No problem.

364
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:30,640
 Okay, I have one card to speak on this item.

365
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,640
 Mary Anderson.

366
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,640
 Yes.

367
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,640
 Come on up.

368
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,640
 State your name and address.

369
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,400
 Hi, Mary Anderson, I-24 West Oak.

370
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,960
 I work at TWU.

371
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,960
 I live on Oak.

372
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,240
 Guess what street I use every day to go to work and back?

373
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,240
 Parkway.

374
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,440
 Did I really understand that you want to take the lights out on Locust and Elm and put stop

375
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,440
 signs?

376
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,440
 Do you have any idea?

377
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,920
 I mean, I don't know when you're doing your traffic survey, but trust me, I'll never get

378
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,920
 to work.

379
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,920
 The students will never get to work.

380
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000
 There will be more accidents and a lot of congestion.

381
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,680
 It just is not well thought out.

382
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,440
 There's a lot of traffic around there and I want to thank you for clearing that brush

383
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,680
 out, by the way, because I figured the homeless were living in there because I drive by it

384
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
 every day, every day.

385
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600
 You cannot take the stop lights out and the bikes will never get across because they can't

386
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:28,140
 go fast enough to beat the people coming down Locust.

387
00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:32,800
 The dividend in Elm is the only thing that keeps that from being any faster.

388
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,960
 They hit it, and they have to slow down.

389
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,000
 But if you take out these lights, nobody's going to get to school on time.

390
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
 There's going to be more accidents.

391
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

392
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,160
 Please don't do that.

393
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,160
 Thank you.

394
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,160
 Okay.

395
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,160
 Does anybody have anything else?

396
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,160
 On this one?

397
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,160
 Okay.

398
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,160
 Thank you.

399
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,720
 Or did you have anything else to tell us?

400
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,720
 No.

401
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,720
 Okay.

402
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:12,480
 All right, so that brings us to item 1D, TSC 19-026, which is to receive a report, hold

403
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,880
 a discussion, and make a recommendation to City Council for prohibiting on-street parking

404
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:26,000
 on the north side of Greg Street between Fulton and Denton Street.

405
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:35,080
 Yes, so staff is recommending to restrict on-street parking on the north side of Greg

406
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,600
 Street from Fulton all the way to Denton Street.

407
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:47,960
 We've received several citizen concerns of the width and being able to safely maneuver

408
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:59,000
 over across Greg Street, and currently, the pavement width from Fulton to Amarillo is

409
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080
 26 feet wide.

410
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:09,160
 From Amarillo to Mounds is 25 feet, and from Mounds to Denton Street is 28 feet.

411
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:16,600
 So considering that a fire truck needs about 20 feet to maneuver through a road that only

412
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:23,680
 leaves 5 to 8 feet for parking, so that's primarily the reason why we would like to

413
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:31,640
 recommend restricting on-street parking on one side of Greg Street.

414
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:39,960
 I looked at this corridor, and I decided to recommend no parking on the north for several

415
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,960
 reasons.

416
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:49,280
 I believe there are more trash bins and larger trash bins that need to be picked up by the

417
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:55,160
 city trucks, so that should help out conduct the work.

418
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:01,920
 On the south side, it appears there's more parking spaces versus the north based on the

419
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:09,320
 driveway widths and the number of driveways in total along this corridor.

420
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:16,400
 And then, just from the aerial, it looks like the majority of people are parking on the

421
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:23,280
 south, and restricting the parking on the north will also help the visibility for all

422
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:29,880
 the residents and the driveways exiting and entering as there won't be an obstruction

423
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 in front of them.

424
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,720
 So for those reasons, the city of Denton is recommending to restrict on-street parking

425
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,920
 on Greg from Fulton to Denton.

426
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:49,360
 That's all I have for this item.

427
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,640
 Looks like also restricting parking on the north side of Greg will potentially cut down

428
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280
 then on people parking too close to the Amarillo intersection.

429
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,280
 Yes.

430
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,280
 That was another big factor.

431
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,520
 Yeah, that's just collateral damage right there.

432
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,680
 It could take, you know, minimize that.

433
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,680
 Exactly.

434
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,680
 Any questions?

435
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,680
 Seems reasonable to me.

436
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,680
 Okay.

437
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:30,120
 We have cards for people wishing to comment either by speaking or not.

438
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:40,160
 On top, I have Brian Morrison, 305 Mounts Avenue, who supports this recommendation.

439
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,160
 Since Greg Street is so narrow, we've needed one-sided parking for some time.

440
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,680
 The north side is the correct side for no parking as there are many more driveways and

441
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,400
 intersections on that side.

442
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,320
 So Brian Morrison in support of the recommendation.

443
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,360
 Vicki Morrison also does not want to speak.

444
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,480
 Vicki Morrison, 305 Mounts Avenue, supports the recommendation.

445
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,080
 UNT students park on both sides of Greg Street, making it very difficult to go in and out

446
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,080
 of driveway.

447
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280
 I live on the corner of Mounts and Greg.

448
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,640
 Driveway is on Greg Street.

449
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,440
 Greg Street is too narrow for more than one-sided parking.

450
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760
 North side is best.

451
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,920
 And wishing to speak, Mary Anderson.

452
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:48,880
 I live here and I went to the big meeting they had on safety and traffic and everything

453
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000
 and I'm so glad that people have started to respond to this.

454
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,760
 I want to thank everybody.

455
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
 It's very dangerous to go down Greg all together.

456
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,760
 I'm a little disappointed that you're going for the north side.

457
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,080
 I say this because my driveway is right here.

458
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,200
 I can't get out.

459
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,480
 I can't see because nobody parks far enough away from my driveway to get out.

460
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,480
 I commonly try to get cars towed because I can't get out of my driveway because I'm also

461
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,320
 very close to Amarillo and it doesn't seem to show here but in case you're in a mobility,

462
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,560
 the real trick is right here.

463
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,520
 That's usually garbage dumpster and well, that means everybody has to kind of go around.

464
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560
 I think what you need to do is eliminate parking on this side.

465
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,040
 Already there is no parking in front of the school.

466
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,680
 I think if you eliminate it on this side, it would -- if you eliminate it over here,

467
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,640
 you're not eliminating that much and all the people that overpark here because they gave

468
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,760
 them all separate addresses, thank you very much, are all going to wind up blocking my

469
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,880
 driveway anyway.

470
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,520
 So unless you're willing to put the right markers on there and enforce them because the

471
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,160
 real problem is I thank the policeman that comes by every time I see him for ticketing

472
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480
 the cars that park right to here, right to here.

473
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,320
 You cannot see to get in.

474
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,680
 I would much prefer to have no parking on the south side of the street.

475
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,000
 I 100% agree that you have to take it away.

476
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040
 I really would like some parking but I don't know how you saw that other -- you know, I

477
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,160
 know that they say that you can't use the stickers and stuff and it wouldn't matter

478
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,160
 because the people here have about 10 cars all the time and in fact park right in front

479
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,280
 of my driveway all the time and they're -- because there are garbages on the way.

480
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,480
 So I would really prefer that you come up -- I mean, there's -- it turns out that most

481
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,280
 of these are students and yes, they have lots of cars but they are required by city code

482
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,040
 to have how many parking spaces for each address?

483
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,120
 There is a code for this, right?

484
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,740
 There's at least -- I think the answer is four spaces per residence to supply.

485
00:34:45,740 --> 00:34:49,720
 So they should all -- each one of these should be able to park on their own street, in their

486
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:51,920
 own driveway.

487
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,160
 So the real reason is visibility getting out and being as they're not here and I am, I

488
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,280
 would prefer you to park them on because they don't care, clearly.

489
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
 You hung tags.

490
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,520
 Take it off for the south side.

491
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,900
 >> Thank you.

492
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:16,520
 We also have Donna Morris speaking on this item.

493
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:31,000
 >> Hello, I'm Donna Morris, 918 West Oak, right next door to Mary.

494
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,480
 First of all, I want to thank you all so much for doing this.

495
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:42,680
 Also from your picture, school wasn't in session when you took this, was it?

496
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,600
 When school's in session, there are no parking spaces, period.

497
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,040
 A couple things I would like to ask.

498
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,840
 When you make your no parking on one side and parking on the other side, are you going

499
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:06,240
 to mark off the parking spaces like you did on Oak Street so that this many cars -- you

500
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:15,660
 know, the cars aren't parking up to the edge of the driveways, that that parking thing

501
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:21,280
 comes -- because we have a big problem with somebody.

502
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:33,160
 We have our garages comes out onto Greg Street and it's a two-car wide driveway and half

503
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,480
 of car is on each side of the driveway hanging over.

504
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,960
 So please mark them well that they're off.

505
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,640
 Also, don't even consider a bicycle laying there.

506
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,180
 [ Laughter ]

507
00:36:54,180 --> 00:37:01,400
 We have for years said you couldn't get a fire truck down there on garbage days.

508
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,280
 I don't know how they do it with those garbage trucks.

509
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,640
 It's horrible.

510
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,400
 I am so glad you are making it no parking on one side.

511
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,640
 I'm not going to argue this side or that side if you're going to put that parking on my

512
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:25,180
 side, make sure that it's marked that people aren't still parking in my driveway.

513
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:31,480
 And thank you, and will you be out tomorrow morning to do this?

514
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,500
 [ Laughter ]

515
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:38,500
 Thank you.

516
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:58,360
 One thing I forgot to mention is if you leave southside parking, we already lost our front

517
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,560
 yard and now we're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people

518
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,560
 that park badly.

519
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,800
 We're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people that park badly.

520
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:19,420
 We're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people that park badly.

521
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:27,000
 We're not going to be able to get to our backyard because of the people that park badly.

522
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:39,240
 On Oak Street, maybe a good solution for Greg, something.

523
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:50,880
 And I have one more card, Bob Crouch, who also wishes to speak.

524
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,840
 My name is Bob Crouch and I own the properties at 912 and 912 and a half Greg and the house

525
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:05,520
 that faces the corner of Greg and Amarillo and thank you very much for bringing this

526
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,520
 project up.

527
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:13,000
 I've talked to the fire department and the police department for some 25 to 30 years

528
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,520
 and this is the finally we're getting to it.

529
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:24,420
 I would definitely support the no parking on the north side of the street and there's

530
00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:29,440
 driveways on all the houses facing Greg.

531
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,880
 Their driveways are blocked a lot of the times.

532
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:42,000
 Fortunately, my two car driveway, the duplex on Greg, I don't have a problem with but as

533
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:51,040
 far as the trash is concerned we have a major problem and I cannot even imagine how a trashman

534
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,360
 can get that truck down there but they do.

535
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:02,000
 Be glad to answer any questions.

536
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000
 Thank you.

537
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:10,480
 Thank you very much.

538
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,580
 We are needing to make a recommendation to city council.

539
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:17,580
 So I have a question.

540
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:22,160
 Can we go back down to that side?

541
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:29,400
 So, so they're talking about having it, your recommendation is on the south, right?

542
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,040
 No parking on the north.

543
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,720
 No parking on the north.

544
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:33,720
 Parking on the south.

545
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,240
 So north is up, south is down.

546
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,240
 Yes.

547
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,240
 Is that correct?

548
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,240
 Yes.

549
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:50,200
 So, so with this green space with right here without any houses there, could you just have

550
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,800
 like, I don't know, would that be more, could you have more parking just there and not on

551
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,800
 the other side?

552
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,680
 I mean, would that accommodate more people?

553
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,840
 I believe there's already a no parking restriction.

554
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,120
 I went into street view and didn't see any signs.

555
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,040
 So we just want to ensure with this, that it is no parking.

556
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,560
 I believe there already is.

557
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,560
 Oh, okay.

558
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,560
 All right.

559
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,560
 Yeah.

560
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,920
 And I think that that is part of the current bus path because that's the south side of

561
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,920
 Calhoun.

562
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,920
 Oh, okay.

563
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:31,520
 So I think that the pattern, I think that the bus pattern has traveled Gregg street.

564
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,240
 It travels Mounts, so I think that that's part of the reason that's already been.

565
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,240
 Okay.

566
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,240
 I didn't know if there was any way you could like do a little flip and...

567
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:47,360
 They come down to that and they don't go down Mounts because it's too narrow.

568
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:53,040
 The teams, the sports teams go down Mounts, the buses do.

569
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,040
 Yeah.

570
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,040
 Yeah.

571
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,040
 That's actually Mounts.

572
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,040
 Which is, yeah.

573
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:05,560
 Okay.

574
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,560
 Anybody...

575
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,440
 So the lesser of two evils is what we're going for here.

576
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,800
 Okay.

577
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,400
 Yeah.

578
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,400
 Okay.

579
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,400
 Anybody want to put forward a recommendation?

580
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:43,440
 Well, it doesn't seem to me like it's an easy solution, but I'm going to go with your recommendation.

581
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,720
 Okay.

582
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,720
 So we...

583
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:46,720
 Second.

584
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,720
 Okay.

585
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:53,200
 I understand the removal of prohibiting on-street parking on the north side of Gregg Street.

586
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,240
 We have a second.

587
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,240
 Everyone in favor?

588
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,240
 Aye.

589
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:58,240
 Aye.

590
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,240
 Aye.

591
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,240
 Opposed?

592
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:01,240
 Okay.

593
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:02,240
 That's it.

594
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:03,240
 So yes, take this recommendation to city council please.

595
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,240
 Thank you.

596
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,240
 All right.

597
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:06,240
 Thank you.

598
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:07,240
 Question.

599
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:12,240
 Do you need to put those parking blocks on that too?

600
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:13,240
 No.

601
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,240
 That would be separate.

602
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,240
 We would just work.

603
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,240
 Okay.

604
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:17,240
 Okay.

605
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:18,240
 Any other concerns could be noted.

606
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,240
 I noted.

607
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:20,240
 Yes.

608
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:26,240
 I made your recommendation which I like.

609
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,880
 Okay.

610
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:35,840
 That brings us to item 1E, TSC 19-027, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion,

611
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,360
 and make a recommendation to city council for prohibiting on-street parking on Jago Street

612
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,840
 at the northeast corner of Jago and West Oak.

613
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,400
 Yes.

614
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,440
 So this originated as a request from the police department.

615
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,720
 So this section of the road is about 25 feet long.

616
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:06,040
 And according to our chapter 18 code of ordinance for the city of Denton, you are not allowed

617
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:14,040
 to park within 30 feet of a controlled intersection and five feet from a driveway.

618
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,680
 So if you add that up, that's 35 feet.

619
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,120
 So this little area is restricted for parking.

620
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:34,640
 So basically, what we are recommending is to do something similar to Bradley Street

621
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:41,120
 and put the sign, no parking standing or stopping on pavement corner to here.

622
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:52,520
 Just to help the police department for enforcement, visibility, turning radius, you name it, safety.

623
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,840
 It's just this side of the intersection.

624
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,840
 It's really one parking spot.

625
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,840
 It's one parking spot.

626
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,640
 Or two if you really want to watch.

627
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:07,000
 And I didn't ask for the number of citations, but it was enough to where an officer brought

628
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,240
 this to my attention.

629
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:16,240
 And that's all I have for this item.

630
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:17,240
 Questions?

631
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:25,960
 I guess my question is, if it's already in the ordinance and no parking there, why do

632
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,120
 you have to ask permission for a sign?

633
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,520
 It seems like you should just put the ordinance is there.

634
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,560
 That is true.

635
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,840
 Did you hear from anybody?

636
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,680
 No, not for this one.

637
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:56,280
 Yes, and I did not receive any calls or objections.

638
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:08,020
 I have a question, what's the parking like on the other side?

639
00:46:08,020 --> 00:46:10,760
 On the other side?

640
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:22,320
 Well the others on Jago Street, that's a turn lane so no one can park here already.

641
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,440
 But someone's parking here and it's a bike route.

642
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,680
 It seems like it would just cause trouble for somebody to turn and suddenly there would

643
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,680
 be somebody there.

644
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,680
 Exactly.

645
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,680
 Looks easy.

646
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:56,160
 Okay, looks easy but we have to make a recommendation to City Council.

647
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,840
 And we've got a second, okay, everyone in favor, aye?

648
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,840
 Aye.

649
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,840
 Opposed?

650
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,840
 It's unanimous.

651
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,840
 Okay, we'll sign up.

652
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,840
 Thank you.

653
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,600
 Okay, thank you very much.

654
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:15,200
 Okay, that brings us to item 1F, which is TSC 19-028, these staff reports including

655
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,640
 the matrix.

656
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:25,680
 Hi, Todd Estes, City Engineer, Inflation Pre-TM-MUIC.

657
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,400
 So in several items on here, number one, the attendance message, we've included the attendance

658
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,880
 ordinance, or at least the information in your backup in regard to attendance on committees,

659
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,640
 boards and commissions.

660
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,000
 That information is there for you to review, there will be an item coming forward next

661
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,960
 month at the next meeting where that item will pertain to that discussion.

662
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:54,960
 So that's there for your review, we just ask that you please take a look at that item.

663
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,080
 As for the street construction report, we've included last week's street construction

664
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,040
 report, so you can see the closures in the backup, any questions on that item or any

665
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,320
 of the closures included in that item, we'd be glad to answer those if we can.

666
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,320
 I've got one.

667
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,320
 Yes, sir.

668
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,120
 Why did you have to extend another month on the EGLE, the one block on the EGLE?

669
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,280
 We ran into multiple utility conflicts out there that weren't known at the time when

670
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,400
 construction started, they were franchise utility issues, so we got those resolved and

671
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,600
 we'll be back on schedule as quickly as we can, but it did cause the construction delay

672
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:35,980
 to go a little bit longer.

673
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:42,480
 And then moving on to the matrix, we added, Mr. Rowan's comment earlier to the matrix,

674
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680
 if there are any other items on the matrix, I don't have an update this week, we'll bring

675
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,360
 an update next month to those items, but if there's anything we need to add to the matrix,

676
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:59,540
 we'll be willing to add those items now.

677
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:03,480
 Usually we like to give pre-tem like 10 or 15 items apiece.

678
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:12,000
 And by we, since Brian asked, Brian Yon is our new city traffic engineer, so he will

679
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,080
 be taking over staff liaison duties, so when I say we, I really mean Brian.

680
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,080
 Really, yes.

681
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,440
 Yeah, we'll go easy on you this month.

682
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,800
 Save them up for July.

683
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:33,920
 If there's any questions, I'm about to answer them, but that's it for this month.

684
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,920
 Okay.

685
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,920
 Anything?

686
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,920
 Nothing.

687
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,920
 Okay.

688
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,720
 If we have nothing else, we are adjourned for the month.

689
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:43,720
 Okay.

690
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:44,720
 It's 6/20.

691
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:54,720
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