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 >> Good afternoon and welcome to the city of Denton's planning and zoning commission

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 meeting for Wednesday, November 15, 2023.

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 This is our work session and with the quorum present I'll call us to order at 5.03 p.m.

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 I'll let the record show that Commissioner Smith is absent at this time.

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 First item in our work session is citizen comment on consent agenda.

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 Is there anyone wishing to speak on consent?

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 Seeing none we'll move on to our second item which is the clarification for tonight's agenda.

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 First we have our minutes from October 25th and November 1st.

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 Any questions, comments?

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 Next is consent agenda.

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 And I think you all saw the e-mail that came through.

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 There was a -- that needed to be removed on one of the plats in consent.

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 Moving on to our items for individual consideration.

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 Our first one is our calendar for next year.

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 Haley, you want to -- I don't know if you want to say anything or --

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 >> Sure.

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 Yeah, I'll let Julie pull it up on the screen just in case there's anything we need to look

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 >> Great.

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 I did have a question just regarding March spring break week.

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 >> I know that that is the week of some spring breaks.

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 I'm assuming probably most, I believe.

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 In the past we've had an issue I know getting a quorum that week.

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 I don't know if that would be the case this year.

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 But I believe it's that week of the 10th.

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 Yeah, we can look at that and confirm I believe you're right.

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 Our goal was to try to avoid PNZ and council meeting in the same week.

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 And I believe they're meeting on the 5th and the 19th in March.

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 >> That week.

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 So, yeah, I guess just bring that to your attention.

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 And if we have to tweak anything, because I don't know how that works even for y'all.

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 You're going to have absences and whatnot.

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 So, I know, it's so far out that, you know, we can all say, oh, yeah, we'll be here.

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 And I don't know, since Sean is here, he might be able to look and see if we would run into

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 any shot clock issues if we do not have that meeting.

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 I believe that was the other thing we were trying to keep in mind is keeping our meeting

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 spaced for plats to be able to have that 30-day window.

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 >> Hi, Sean.

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 Sean Jacobson.

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 As Commissioner Pruitt taught last year, we always have to check to make sure that we

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 have no more than 30 days between dates, so that would be the only part that we would

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 And I'm sure we can confirm that between now and when we get to --

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 I mean, I guess we've got plenty of time to, like, if we saw a problem, tweak it at that.

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 Next item on our individual consideration is for B. We did have a late email come through

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 I don't want to steal your thunder, Julie, you go right ahead.

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 >> I'll be brief, I promise.

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 Julie Wyatt.

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 And this is a preliminary plat for the prestige at Mayhill.

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 The subject property is there at the intersection of Mayhill and Edwards.

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 It is a preliminary plat for a multifamily development.

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 They had a couple of items that they had to address in order to get approval.

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 They did work diligently with staff in order to meet all those technical requirements.

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 And so staff is now -- has modified the recommendation from your backup material to a recommendation

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 of approval and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

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 That will take us to 4C.

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 Shawn Jacobson and this is a plat for the 100 north loop 288 edition.

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 And they have not quite met all of our comments yet and they're close.

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 >> Thank you, Shawn.

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 4D, that's yours as well.

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 This is the Mayhill edition.

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 It is off Mayhill and again, they're very close but haven't quite locked down all of

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 >> Ashley, excellent planner.

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 This is a final plat for Sagebrook phase 2.

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 This is for 42 residential lots and this did originally come over as an extension but they

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 were able to work through all of their comments so we are now recommending approval.

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 on the covering of a gas well that was capped or something and I think it was in this region.

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 lot that's required by their PD so it is right here.

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 This is for 115 residential lots and they were able to work through their outstanding

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 Good evening, chair and commissioners.

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 So this is an update to our debt and development code regarding private cemeteries.

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 The proposal is to update four different sections of that debt and development code.

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 Our table 5.2A, section 5.34, table 7.9I, and our section 9.2.

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 The rationale for this is House Bill 783.

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 It does allow for private cemeteries to be established or used within the city, especially

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 due to the fact that we are within a county of a population of more than 750,000.

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 >> Commissioner McDade.

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 So it is -- what we're defining a privately owned cemetery as is it can be established

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 Oakwood Cemetery when, you know, I mean, I'm almost 60 years old, well, that was almost

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 That belongs to Sean.

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 >> Good evening, Chair, members of the Commission.

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 Let me go ahead and pull up my presentation here.

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 And we'll hit just the highlights for now.

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 This is a zoning change, Z2312, that's just off Teasley, and we're going south of Robinson.

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 This is a request for rezoning from a planned development to a suburban corridor district

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 on 1.09-acre property currently vacant.

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 This was created as part of a PD in 1999, and that PD, as well as subsequent amendments,

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 have designated this to be developed commercially, but have vested it in a variety of outdated

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 This rezoning would allow it to develop with a suburban corridor use under all of our current

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 And staff has reviewed this and does recommend approval.

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 Happy to answer any questions.

252
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 >> Questions for Sean?

253
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 >> Just out of curiosity, I mean, I will miss the PD numbers in the backup, so forgive me

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 for being general in my description, but I believe the lots surrounding this, the commercial

255
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 lots anyway, are still under the PD that this one is being proposed to be zoned out of,

256
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 right?

257
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 >> Yes, that's correct.

258
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 >> Is the reason that those are not within this application also because it's a different

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 owner or because those are already developed and there's no need to at this time?

260
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 >> I would say both of those are correct.

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 There are a range of owners, and they have already developed, so they wouldn't need to

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 come forward with a detailed plan, whereas this property would have to do that in order

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 to develop.

264
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 >> Okay.

265
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 Thank you.

266
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 >> Any other questions?

267
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 >> I'm still trying to understand exactly what the property owner is trying to do.

268
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 You know, the uses are almost the same, you know, and it's a one-acre tract of land, so

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 I'm not even worried about, like I think was mentioned, like, oh, they can't do heavy industrial

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 or something like that.

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 Well, they're not going 200-acre site anyway.

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 So the only thing that gives me pause is, you know, PD right now, it's that it has to get

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 looked over at the site plan and whatnot, and if we do this, that part of it's gone,

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 and it is right next to Wheeler Ridge, I mean, it does side to those homes.

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 So I'm trying to wrap my head around, you know, do we have enough in the code right

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 now that is protective enough?

277
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 So that's what -- I'm trying to understand exactly what the owner is trying to avoid

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 is just a couple of steps here.

279
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 >> I can't necessarily speak to the owner's intent, but I think at least from staff's

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 perspective, having this reviewed under our current standards instead of the 2003 parking

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 code, the 1998 landscape code, we've developed more robust standards since then.

282
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 >> Yeah.

283
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 Yeah.

284
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 And I like all of that.

285
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 >> Yeah.

286
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 >> Just the part I don't like is the review that's there in place in the PD now.

287
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 So I'm still kind of churning through that.

288
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 >> If it is helpful, and obviously they're not at all held to this, but this was -- they

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 came to us with a plan for commercial development, essentially a two-story medical office and

290
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 retail development on that, in that space, which would be permitted under either --

291
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 >> Yeah, but that's allowed in the PD, right?

292
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 >> Mm-hmm.

293
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 >> Now they could do that.

294
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 So that's -- see, that's where I'm going with this, is like I'm trying to -- I'm trying

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 to understand.

296
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 >> Yeah.

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 And part of what staff considered is -- so essentially the PD permits that use by right,

298
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 our code permits the use by right.

299
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 The way it would be reviewed is essentially the same.

300
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 This does take out that public hearing process, but at the same time, it's -- it would be

301
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 very hard for the commission or council to find reason to deny a site plan when the use

302
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 is already permitted by zoning and if they meet all of the standards that are in place.

303
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 So it's somewhat of a -- just putting something that should not be subjective because it's

304
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 meeting the code through a discretionary process with that detail plan amendment, since that's

305
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 really all that they have left to do under the PD at this point is get the site plan

306
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 approved.

307
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 >> Right.

308
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 So why do they want to go --

309
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 >> So it just allows them to go through the --

310
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 >> Why do they want to go through this expense?

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 All they had to do was put a site plan together and bring it forth under the PD.

312
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 >> This would allow them to do that site plan by right through the administrative process.

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 So they understood coming in that they had a public hearing in their future no matter

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 which path they went.

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 Their choice was to fall under current code and go through what would then become a staff

316
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 approval of their site plan versus bringing the site plan through the public hearing process.

317
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 >> Okay.

318
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 And you all in reviewing don't think we're losing anything that we have in that PD?

319
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 >> No, I actually looked pretty closely at it and even did try to do a comparison one-to-one

320
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 of what requirements were one versus the other, and I could tell it was either going -- as

321
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 far as I could tell, it was either going to be comparable or we would have some superior.

322
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 And actually with our parking, it allows us to potentially avoid some over parking issues

323
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 that could otherwise occur.

324
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 >> Okay.

325
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,200
 Okay.

326
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 Question?

327
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 >> Just real quick, you've answered most of my questions already.

328
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 But is there a reason why we aren't able to update the PD through this process as opposed

329
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 to changing it to straight zoning?

330
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 Is that something that we can -- that we're able to do, or is that just cost prohibitive?

331
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 >> If the applicant had decided to pursue that, certainly that could have been an option.

332
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 I think it would have been -- it would have been a lot of changes to make to the PD because

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 the PD talks -- I mean, invested in uses that are set back in the '90s, landscape code back

334
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 then.

335
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 Essentially, you would have been doing almost the same thing and then saying, but you'll

336
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 still have to come back and have it reviewed.

337
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 I think it is a very complex PD.

338
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 With many factors to it, keeping that around is maybe not the best planning recommendation

339
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 if it's not needed.

340
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 >> Sure.

341
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 I guess I just have concern about setting a negative precedence that harms future communities

342
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 going forward.

343
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 If we have, you know, vote for a PD down the line and in 20 years we decide to -- or not

344
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 us, but a future commission decides to change it to straight zoning without the community's

345
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 approval, I think that would cause some grief down the line, but that's neither here nor

346
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 there.

347
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,960
 Appreciate it.

348
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 Thank you.

349
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 >> Sean, is this the last parcel in this PD?

350
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 >> It is.

351
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 >> Okay.

352
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 Any other questions?

353
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,400
 Yeah.

354
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:14,320
 I know these get complicated because, yeah, I think what Commissioner Villarao was going

355
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 for is, like, why can't we just bring them into today's code, you know?

356
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240
 There's still the PD with all these restrictions, but let's just bring it, you know, into -- and

357
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,280
 I think there's a way that we could do that because, yeah, we've seen these things before

358
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 where we've got to change something because they're just outdated, they can't work, it

359
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 doesn't work, and today's code and whatnot, but anyway, okay.

360
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,680
 Thank you.

361
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,680
 Thank you for answering our questions.

362
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,640
 Appreciate it.

363
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 That's the last item on our agenda for this evening, so we'll go ahead into our work session

364
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 report, which is 3A-PZ-23259, and that's Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion Regarding Capital

365
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 Improvement Project Address for Elm & Locust, Bonnie Bray, I-35, and Westgate.

366
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,240
 Hello.

367
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:07,240
 Thank you for your patience.

368
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,720
 >> All right.

369
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,720
 Good evening.

370
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,720
 My name is Trevor Crane.

371
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 I work for Elm & Locust Capital Projects, and tonight I'll be giving you a few updates

372
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 on those listed projects that you just talked about.

373
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 So first, we'll start out with Elm & Locust.

374
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 So currently, Elm & Locust is a couple different phases.

375
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 So Elm & Locust Phase 1, the limits of that project were from Walnut to Eagle.

376
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 All the utilities have been completed on that project.

377
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 So Elm & Locust is a little funky.

378
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 Both those streets are actually TXDOT owned roads currently, so I'm going to get to that

379
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 here in a minute.

380
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 But TXDOT is responsible for actually fixing the street, the pavement on the street.

381
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 We have been working with them probably since I've been here, and I've been here four years,

382
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 longer than that actually, but working through kind of what that looks like, what that cross

383
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 section needs to look like, and all those things.

384
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 So we actually are bringing an agreement to council within I think the next council date.

385
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 So we've worked through, TXDOT will be starting to do that reconstruction of Elm & Locust starting

386
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 Q2 of 2024.

387
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 So they will be reconstructing both Elm & Locust from Walnut to Eagle.

388
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 Elm & Locust Phase 2, so that's going to be from US 380 down to McKinney.

389
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 That is a project that Capital Projects will be delivering.

390
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 So we have water, wastewater, drainage, and street reconstruction.

391
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 We will be looking at sidewalks, but really that project is contained to the actual roadway.

392
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 A portion of this project was funded in the 2022 county trip bond.

393
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 We're currently at 60% design, and we estimate moving forward with that construction in quarter

394
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 4 of 2024.

395
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 So we will be completing all the utilities on that section and doing the street reconstruction

396
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 on that segment.

397
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 So the Elm & Locust turn back.

398
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 So turn back is an agreement that we're going to have with TXDOT that we're working through

399
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 right now.

400
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 The resolution to city council went in November of 2023.

401
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 And then we're currently awaiting approval from the TXDOT Transportation Commission.

402
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 So once both projects are complete, both the roads will be turned back over to the city

403
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 of Denton by D transfer, and then we'll own both of those roadways moving forward.

404
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,240
 >> Can you go back for a minute?

405
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,240
 >> Sure.

406
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,240
 >> Sorry.

407
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,240
 I'm probably going to stop you there just to see.

408
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,240
 >> No, that's fine.

409
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,000
 Yeah, we can -- >> Do you have any questions on these items,

410
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000
 Commissioner Peruppe?

411
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 >> Thank you, Chair.

412
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,320
 So maybe my math is fuzzy, but it looks like there's a gap between Walnut and McKinney

413
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 that is not incorporated in this Phase 1 and Phase 2.

414
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,640
 >> Yeah.

415
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 Phase 2.

416
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 >> So the square is not being reconstructed as a part of any of these projects.

417
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 There is a -- we're looking at some of the utilities there and looking to try to get

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 those out of the square.

419
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,520
 It really makes a lot more sense if we don't have any utilities, you know, in those streets,

420
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 so that we don't have to come back.

421
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 But we probably will have to do some construction in the square, but really, Almond Locust Phase

422
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 2, it goes around the square.

423
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 So there will be complete street reconstruction from 380 all the way to Eagle and that piece

424
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 of Eagle that goes to Dallas Drive.

425
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,280
 >> Okay.

426
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:43,040
 >> So the street will be reconstructed the entire way, minus maybe some of the square.

427
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,040
 >> Okay.

428
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,080
 So those little stubs north of Walnut and south of McKinney would still be incorporated?

429
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,080
 >> Yeah, absolutely.

430
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,920
 >> Because it's within the 600 feet of the intersection or something like that?

431
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,920
 >> Yeah.

432
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,920
 >> Okay.

433
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,920
 I think that was it.

434
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,920
 Thank you.

435
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,920
 >> Okay.

436
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,920
 >> Good.

437
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,920
 >> And -- no.

438
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,920
 >> Oh, sorry.

439
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,920
 >> No, super quick question.

440
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,920
 >> No, you're good.

441
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,760
 >> Yeah, so with the Phase 1, so the reason that the road is abysmal right now is just

442
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 because they've been doing drainage work and whatnot, I mean, are we going to get rid

443
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 of the --

444
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:18,040
 >> Yeah, so the reason it's like that is because -- so normally TxDOT does not allow utilities

445
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 underneath their roadway.

446
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,160
 Almond Locust is a little different animal just because there's nowhere else to put utilities

447
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,240
 outside of the roadway.

448
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,120
 So that's one of the reasons why we work through this turn back so that we can keep the utilities

449
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 in the roadway and then the city of Denton will be responsible for the actual roadway

450
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 itself.

451
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,080
 So what happened was we came through, did all utilities, so you'll see kind of those

452
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 patches that go across the street.

453
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,040
 Some of them are going with the street and they've settled and now you've got kind of

454
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 that bumpy road.

455
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,400
 Usually what happens and what will happen on Almond Locust Phase 2 is we'll come in, do

456
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 all the utilities and then reconstruct the road so you have a brand new -- you have brand

457
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 new utilities underneath it, brand new surface.

458
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,800
 That didn't happen because TxDOT is responsible for doing the roadway.

459
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,920
 So that's part of the reason why -- and then we're actually supposed to do Almond Locust

460
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960
 the part north of the square.

461
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,000
 We told them to wait because we have utilities to do there.

462
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,360
 We don't want the same issue to happen.

463
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:17,160
 Or we don't want them to put a new pavement down, us come in, tear it all up and then

464
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 reconstruct it again.

465
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,160
 >> Okay.

466
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,160
 >> Yeah.

467
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,720
 So the finished product is going to be a smooth road?

468
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,720
 >> Yes, ma'am.

469
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,720
 >> Okay.

470
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,920
 >> Yeah, we've been working through kind of what that -- so the city of Vinton's cross-section,

471
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 so what we require like pavement thickness, subgrade is a lot more robust than what TxDOT

472
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 requires.

473
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,320
 So we've been working through what that looks like because, of course, they want to go back

474
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 with what they do because it's cheaper.

475
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,280
 We want it to be to our standard because we're going to have to maintain it for, you know,

476
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 from here on out.

477
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,040
 So we've been working with them and we finally got that agreed, too, and so that's why they're

478
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 going to be moving forward in quarter two of next year.

479
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000
 >> Okay.

480
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
 Commissioner Perot.

481
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,040
 >> Sorry, I thought of another one.

482
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,040
 >> That's okay.

483
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,480
 >> The -- so you said all the utility work that's planned south of the square in phase

484
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,400
 one has already been complete?

485
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,400
 >> Correct.

486
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,400
 >> Okay.

487
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,720
 >> As a part of phase -- as a part of phase one, yeah.

488
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,720
 >> Okay.

489
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:19,800
 This may be general comment or questions to some on the downtown area plan that's ongoing.

490
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:27,000
 I know many moons ago visionaries, before we redid a lot of the square, had the money

491
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,520
 somehow to bury a lot of the utilities, overhead utilities, right?

492
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520
 And that went down to Prairie, I think, and it didn't go further south, and it extends

493
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,160
 even a shorter distance north of the square.

494
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,480
 I didn't know if there were any thoughts along with the downtown plan to expand that area

495
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,900
 in the future or -- >> Yeah, I'm not sure about that specifically,

496
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:53,360
 so we are working with Cameron and Sean and their team as a part of that downtown plan,

497
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:58,080
 specifically with Elm and Locust phase two, to understand, you know, what we can incorporate

498
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,360
 with this project.

499
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:04,440
 We don't want to kind of delay Elm and Locust phase two just because it's been, you know,

500
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,960
 it seems like 50 years, so -- but we are working with them to understand what can be done as

501
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,320
 a part of that project, and then, you know, kind of how that folds into what they're doing

502
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
 as a part of that project as well.

503
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000
 >> Okay.

504
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
 Thank you.

505
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200
 >> Anything else on this one?

506
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200
 Okay.

507
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,200
 Thank you.

508
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,200
 >> Perfect.

509
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,200
 >> Let's go to Bonnie Bray.

510
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,200
 >> All right.

511
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,200
 Bonnie Bray.

512
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760
 So Bonnie Bray has multiple phases, so I'm going to kind of walk through these.

513
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,320
 Bonnie Bray phase one is from Rose Lawn to Vintage.

514
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,120
 Project's complete.

515
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,360
 Bonnie Bray phase two is actually Vintage itself.

516
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,560
 That project is also complete.

517
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,400
 Bonnie Bray phase three, Rose Lawn to I-35.

518
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,000
 We just started breaking ground on that project within the last couple weeks.

519
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,480
 We have an estimated completion date of quarter two of 2026.

520
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520
 Pretty large project.

521
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680
 Bonnie Bray phase four A and four B. So that was one project at one point.

522
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,320
 They broke it out, did the roundabout, so the roundabout's actually complete.

523
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,680
 Bonnie Bray phase four B is I-35 to Scripture.

524
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,200
 That is that 90% design.

525
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,560
 That project was also included as a part of the 2022 county trip bond, and we're holding

526
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,560
 off on construction.

527
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,320
 We're going to bring it all the way to 100%.

528
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,160
 I don't want to start construction on that one right now, kind of the same thing with

529
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,080
 Bonnie Bray phase five because I can't have all of Bonnie Bray under construction all

530
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,680
 at the same time with I-35 also under construction all at the same time.

531
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,600
 So trying to phase those out will bring them all the way to 100%, and then once we get

532
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,680
 close on Bonnie Bray three and six, then we'll start looking at rolling those out and starting

533
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,960
 that construction.

534
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,680
 Bonnie Bray phase five, Scripture to US-380.

535
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,360
 That's also at 90% design, kind of the same story, was included in that 2022 county trip

536
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,100
 bond, and then we'll probably start both of those constructions pretty close together

537
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:57,000
 once five and six are getting close.

538
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,840
 Bonnie Bray phase six, so that's US-380 to US-77.

539
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:07,080
 We're working through our final utility relocations on that and working to get our final letter

540
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:15,920
 of intent from TxDOT, so that has a lot of TxDOT funding associated with it, so it's

541
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,800
 a little longer process, but we're really close on that one, should be bidding it out

542
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:27,440
 the beginning of next year and then starting construction on that one in Q2 of 2024.

543
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,280
 And I'll pause there for any questions on Bonnie Bray.

544
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,620
 What is your guesstimate on phase six completion?

545
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:41,400
 It is a two-year project, if I remember correctly, so probably Q2, 2026.

546
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,000
 I would probably push that to Q3 just because there's going to be a lot of coordination

547
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,160
 with this project along with some of the other projects I'm going to go through here.

548
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:56,040
 Really that whole section is about to be under construction here pretty soon, so.

549
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080
 Any questions for Bonnie Bray?

550
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,360
 I'm sure it will be nice to get it done, especially with all that growth there, so.

551
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,480
 So the I-35 utility relocation project, so these are all projects that my team is delivering

552
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,880
 and they're in conjunction with the I-35 widening projects that TxDOT is doing, so I'll go through

553
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920
 those here on the next slide, but.

554
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,560
 So we have multiple projects broken up into different segments.

555
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,520
 We have the I-35 relocation at Mayhill, so that's Loop 288 to Mayhill.

556
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880
 That project is actually almost completed.

557
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,160
 We're finishing up some final things, so we're looking at, you know, probably end of this

558
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,240
 year maybe pushing into the beginning of next year just to work around some of the businesses

559
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320
 that we have right there.

560
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,340
 Northwest Water Transmission Line, so that's Loop 288 to Nicosia.

561
00:31:46,340 --> 00:31:51,200
 That project is currently underway and we're looking at an estimated completion of Q3,

562
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,280
 Q4.

563
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,460
 Also the next one is 380 to Milam.

564
00:31:56,460 --> 00:32:01,840
 Construction is underway with an estimated completion of Q2 of 2024.

565
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,560
 The merge to 380, Q2 of 2024 as well, and then we have a utility relocation at Fort

566
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,920
 Worth Drive.

567
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,900
 That construction is estimated to begin in quarter one of 2024 with an estimated completion

568
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:19,840
 of quarter three of 2024, so those three I just talked about, we worked really closely

569
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,840
 with TxDOT.

570
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,320
 We have a very expedited timeline on getting their projects out, so we worked to get ours

571
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,600
 out and get them finished before they needed to be out there.

572
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:37,200
 And then the final one on this is our Milam Creek Gravity Sewer, US 77 to Ganser.

573
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,360
 This one is going to start in Q2 of 2024 with an estimated completion of quarter three of

574
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,360
 2025.

575
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,600
 And the next slide kind of goes with these, so I'll run through those as well.

576
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,540
 So these are the actual TxDOT projects.

577
00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:56,280
 We aren't managing these projects, but TxDOT is managing these and this is the actual widening.

578
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,160
 So the I-35 relocations at Mayhill, they're looking to start that construction in June

579
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,120
 of 2025.

580
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,560
 The Loop 288 to Nicosia, they're looking to start that construction or let date.

581
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240
 Their wordage is a little different.

582
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,520
 That's when they send it out to bid, it's let date.

583
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520
 So they're looking to do that in July of 2026.

584
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,840
 380 to Milam, they're letting that in April of 2024.

585
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,360
 Same with the merged to US 380s, that's one of the reasons we had to get our projects,

586
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,680
 our utilities out of the way so they could start those projects.

587
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,400
 Fort Worth Drive, they're looking to let that one in June of 2024.

588
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,680
 And then 77 to Ganser, April of 2024.

589
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640
 How long is that bidding process typically?

590
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,040
 30 days, usually.

591
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,040
 30 days.

592
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:51,760
 And then is there any kind of time from when they award that to start?

593
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
 Yeah, usually it's pretty quick.

594
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,000
 TxDOT has a separate kind of bidding procurement than we do at the city.

595
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920
 So all of their projects have to be what we call low bid.

596
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,720
 So that's kind of whoever is the lowest bidder wins those.

597
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,720
 We can do those.

598
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,300
 We don't really do them anymore just because you kind of get what you pay for in that way.

599
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:15,960
 So we do a lot of what we call competitive sealed proposal, which brings into some other

600
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,240
 factors instead of just price.

601
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:22,000
 Really, another word for it is best value.

602
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,080
 So that's what we do a lot.

603
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,400
 And we've also started doing CMAR, which is construction manager at risk.

604
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,880
 Just a different way to deliver projects.

605
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040
 Any questions on Commissioner Pruitt?

606
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:45,640
 So I'm guessing the I-35 EW merge, that's a fairly large project, right?

607
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,640
 Absolutely.

608
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,640
 It's like $500 or $600 million.

609
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,240
 Yeah, I don't have the numbers.

610
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,240
 It's a lot of money.

611
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:58,640
 So I can tell you, TxDOT is spending a lot of money in Denton County right now in the

612
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,640
 billions.

613
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:05,900
 I'm just trying to turn my brain through how many decades longer it'll be before Bonnie

614
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:08,240
 Bray is finished.

615
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:15,920
 So if they're letting mid 2024, it's probably a, what, three-year project, even if it's

616
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,920
 accelerated?

617
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,280
 You're talking about for the TxDOT project?

618
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,280
 Yeah.

619
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,660
 I can get those dates for you.

620
00:35:22,660 --> 00:35:28,080
 So we get what we call an on-system report that we go through during mobility committee.

621
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,200
 So you can pull it off of the mobility committee.

622
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200
 They have some estimates.

623
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,960
 They'll give you all the costs with it and all that stuff.

624
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:45,160
 So just to refer back to the Bonnie Bray, you had, I think it was phase three and five?

625
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,160
 Three and six.

626
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,160
 No, sorry.

627
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,160
 Three and six.

628
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,160
 No, no, no.

629
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160
 Four B and five.

630
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,160
 Oh, four B and five, yes.

631
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,960
 The to-be-determined construction start date would be aligned at the completion of that

632
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,080
 35Y project?

633
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,400
 I don't want to guarantee that, but those are things that we take into account of when

634
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,680
 we're going to let those projects.

635
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,840
 So that was one of the reasons why I don't want to, you know, technically I could move

636
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,200
 both of those four B and five to 100% within the next couple months, get them out to bid

637
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,560
 mid-next year.

638
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,400
 And then I've got I-35 all under construction, Bonnie Bray from, you know, Roselon all the

639
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,400
 way to 77 under construction.

640
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,400
 Doesn't make a lot of sense.

641
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,500
 So that's why we're kind of taking those things into account.

642
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,640
 We want to see how those projects are progressing.

643
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,280
 We can get our projects done so that we've got, we don't have the whole corridor under

644
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,880
 construction, you know, we're very cognizant of construction fatigue, making sure you can

645
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,720
 get from A to B. And that was one of the goals on Bonnie Bray B, or Bonnie Bray, to kind

646
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,480
 of do it in chunks, because we knew 35 was going to be under construction.

647
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,040
 So try to get that, you know, another north-south corridor built.

648
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,040
 Okay.

649
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,040
 Thank you.

650
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,040
 Yes, sir.

651
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,040
 Anything else there?

652
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,040
 Okay.

653
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,040
 All right.

654
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,320
 So the next one is Westgate Drive.

655
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,660
 So I didn't put a map up here, which I should have, because it gets really confusing.

656
00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:09,680
 But so the limits of this project are from I-35 to Westgate.

657
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,460
 There's a north-south Westgate that goes from Windsor and Dead Ends.

658
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:15,720
 That's a part of this project as well.

659
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:22,900
 And then there's an east-west Westgate that goes from I-35 and Dead Ends to Bronco Way.

660
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:31,440
 So this project will actually connect I-35, the east-west Westgate, from I-35 to Bronco

661
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:37,960
 Way, which means it'll be a straight connection from Bonnie Bray all the way to I-35.

662
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
 Does that make sense?

663
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,600
 Okay.

664
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,520
 So it's kind of a square with missing the I-35 piece.

665
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,140
 So this project includes water, wastewater, drainage improvements, roadway reconstruction,

666
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:52,360
 and pedestrian improvements.

667
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,320
 So when I say pedestrian improvements, sidewalks, bike lanes where applicable, those types of

668
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,320
 things.

669
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,140
 So this project will connect east-west Westgate to Bronco Way and then we'll rename that to

670
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:10,180
 Bronco Way all the way so we don't have multiple brownie roads and Westgates and all those

671
00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:11,180
 types of things.

672
00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:13,800
 We're trying to clean that up.

673
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,600
 The project will connect north-south Westgate to the new Bronco Way with limited vehicular

674
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:24,280
 movement so there'll be no left turn onto Westgate.

675
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,680
 That project is currently at 60% design and we're estimating construction start date in

676
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:37,540
 quarter three of 2024.

677
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:38,540
 Questions there?

678
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:44,360
 So you're renaming, it's the Westgate that comes off of Bonnie Bray now, right?

679
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,400
 Is that getting renamed?

680
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,320
 So the Westgate comes off of, so the north-south Westgate comes off of Windsor.

681
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,620
 It doesn't actually connect to Bonnie Bray.

682
00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:58,880
 Bronco Way, they've renamed that piece that they built right by the high school, the east-west.

683
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,120
 We'll connect that and then name it Bronco Way all the way to 35.

684
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,320
 So there's a piece.

685
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,520
 That's the piece you're renaming.

686
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,520
 Correct.

687
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,680
 So there's a piece that's in between current, the Bronco Way that's in front of the school

688
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,800
 and east-west Westgate that there is no road.

689
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,120
 It's not constructed.

690
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,100
 So we're going to connect those and then name that Bronco Way the entire way.

691
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,560
 So those people have a new street name who live there?

692
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160
 The north-south Westgate will not be changed.

693
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,160
 Okay.

694
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,240
 So that's saying Westgate.

695
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,240
 The new piece is...

696
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,240
 Will be Bronco Way.

697
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,240
 Will be coming.

698
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,240
 Correct.

699
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,240
 Bronco Way.

700
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,240
 Okay.

701
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,240
 Interesting.

702
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:39,360
 Any other questions?

703
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,240
 I hope all of those people know when you get started in there just because they're going

704
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,240
 to be very surprised.

705
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:47,240
 They're not going to be surprised.

706
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,240
 Trust me, they know.

707
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,240
 Good.

708
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,240
 This has been a long time.

709
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:55,240
 Oh, I know because I remember at one time that wasn't going to happen, that connection.

710
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,240
 Yeah.

711
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:01,400
 There used to be a road there that got closed and then it's been a long time.

712
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,400
 Yeah.

713
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,400
 So they know.

714
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,400
 We have lots of community meetings.

715
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,400
 Okay.

716
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,400
 Good.

717
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,400
 They've got my number.

718
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,400
 Good.

719
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,400
 Okay.

720
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,400
 All right.

721
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,400
 So that's all I have on those projects.

722
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,760
 Are there any other questions that I can answer?

723
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,240
 Any other questions?

724
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,240
 Okay.

725
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,240
 Trevor, thank you.

726
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,240
 Yeah.

727
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,240
 Great.

728
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,240
 Thanks for having me.

729
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:23,240
 Appreciate it.

730
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:24,240
 It's incredibly helpful and I know we've been talking about wanting to have that discussion

731
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:25,240
 for a bit now so...

732
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:26,240
 Yeah.

733
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,240
 Anytime.

734
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,240
 Thanks for making the time.

735
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:29,240
 Appreciate y'all having me.

736
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,240
 And good luck and we hope for smoother roads soon.

737
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,240
 We'll try.

738
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:33,240
 Thank you.

739
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,240
 Thank you, Trevor.

740
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,940
 Okay, that was the last item on our work session.

741
00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:39,940
 So we can...

742
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:40,940
 Madam Chair.

743
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:41,940
 Yes.

744
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:42,940
 Of course.

745
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:43,940
 Can I address something very briefly?

746
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:44,940
 Oh, of course.

747
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:45,940
 Okay.

748
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:46,940
 Of course.

749
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:52,000
 So staff is very quick and got an answer to Mr. McDade's question so I just thought it'd

750
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,440
 be good to address it.

751
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,440
 That would be lovely.

752
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,440
 Okay.

753
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,440
 Yes.

754
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,440
 Thank you.

755
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,440
 And thank you, Cameron and Tina.

756
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,840
 So we were all furiously looking and they're much faster than the attorney in finding the

757
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,320
 legal basis.

758
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:12,160
 So the way staff has written the ordinance says that any of these private cemeteries

759
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,400
 have to comply with the Texas Health and Safety Code, Chapter 711, which specifically has

760
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:24,200
 a discrimination prohibition in it, so that says a cemetery organization may not adopt

761
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,720
 or enforce a rule that prohibits interment because of the race, color, or national origin

762
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:34,240
 of a decedent and there's other provisions too, but it's covered.

763
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:41,360
 What I wanted to hear, because I mean, my deal was, you know, if I build apartments

764
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,880
 and I keep certain people out, I can be shut down and fined for that, so this should apply

765
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,560
 to anything that's being done in the state of Texas, but that's the answer that I was

766
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,560
 looking for.

767
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,560
 Yeah.

768
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,560
 Now I can put my mind at ease right now.

769
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,560
 Absolutely.

770
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,120
 No, staff did a great job in creating that ordinance and it's all covered.

771
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,120
 Yep.

772
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,120
 Thank you very much for that.

773
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,120
 Thank you.

774
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,120
 That is great.

775
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,120
 Thank you.

776
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,120
 Okay.

777
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,120
 There's no other questions.

778
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:20,240
 We're going to go ahead and adjourn at 545 and we will reconvene at 630 in Council Chambers.

779
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,480
 Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for

780
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,280
 Wednesday, November 15th, 2023.

781
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,440
 With the quorum present, I will call our meeting to order at 630 p.m.

782
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,160
 First item on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas Flags.

783
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:43,400
 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for

784
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:50,480
 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

785
00:42:50,480 --> 00:43:02,800
 On the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state, under God, one and indivisible.

786
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,800
 Thank you.

787
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:10,320
 That will move us to consider the approval of our meeting minutes from October 25th and

788
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,320
 November 1st.

789
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,320
 Commissioner Villarreal.

790
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,200
 I move approval.

791
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,200
 Commissioner Cole.

792
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,200
 Second.

793
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,200
 We've got a first and a second to approve our minutes from the 25th and the 1st of November.

794
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,200
 Any discussion?

795
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,200
 Okay.

796
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:33,020
 Let's vote, please.

797
00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:35,420
 That motion carries 6-0.

798
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:39,040
 That will take us to our Consent Agenda.

799
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,040
 Commissioner Villarreal.

800
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,040
 Move approval.

801
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,040
 Commissioner Cole.

802
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,040
 Second.

803
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,280
 We've got a first and a second to approve the Consent Agenda discussion.

804
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,280
 Okay.

805
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:58,120
 Let's vote, please.

806
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,120
 That motion carries 6-0.

807
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,720
 That will take us to our Items for Individual Consideration.

808
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:12,920
 First item for APZ23260, that's the Consider Approval of our 2020 Planning and Zoning Commission

809
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,920
 Meeting Calendar.

810
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,560
 Julie, I guess you're going to put that up?

811
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,560
 Thank you.

812
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,720
 You bet.

813
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:30,440
 So during the work session, I had brought up that we do have a scheduled meeting during

814
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,760
 the week of spring break.

815
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,400
 Staff was able to look things up timeline-wise.

816
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,240
 They did say we had a couple of options if we wanted to entertain them.

817
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,840
 We could move the 13th meeting to the 6th.

818
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:51,080
 That would put us back-to-back meetings last week of February and then the 6th of March

819
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,760
 if we wanted to do that.

820
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,120
 Or they said they would also be okay to cancel that meeting on the 13th and just do one in

821
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,080
 March and the timeline would still be okay.

822
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
 Commissioners, do you have thoughts on that?

823
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,160
 Commissioner Smith, I know you were not at work session, so I don't know if you wanted

824
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920
 to weigh in at all.

825
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,920
 I don't have any care about the -- not that I don't care about spring break.

826
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,040
 I have no opinion about the meeting of spring break, but if we're able to cancel it and

827
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,840
 still be on the right timeline, I think we should do that versus doing back-to-back.

828
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,840
 Okay.

829
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,720
 Is there any other -- go ahead, Pamela.

830
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,860
 I just wanted to note, if you would like to cancel the meeting on the 13th and switch to

831
00:45:30,860 --> 00:45:34,440
 one meeting in March, we would propose that be on the 20th.

832
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,600
 Just balance out that month?

833
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,600
 Commissioner Pruitt?

834
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,600
 Thank you, Chair.

835
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,760
 Really, my only question is to staff with the number of area plans that we have going

836
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:56,560
 on and touch points and final hearings and all that, does going a month between meetings

837
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:03,080
 there risk delaying some of that progress or would we not be the long pole in the tent,

838
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,760
 so to speak, so it doesn't really matter?

839
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:11,320
 I think Tina's going to come down and speak to that.

840
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,320
 Hi, Tina.

841
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,200
 Hey, Tina Fargans, Deputy Director of Development Services.

842
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,000
 So great question.

843
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,760
 In looking at some of our scheduling, I think we would be fine, especially if we go to one

844
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,360
 meeting in March.

845
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,560
 The other thing is, just past the conversation we've had, we always have the ability to call

846
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:31,640
 a special meeting if we needed to, to be able to address anything to those projects.

847
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,440
 Any other thoughts, discussion?

848
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,960
 Okay, Commissioner Villarreal, you've got a motion.

849
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:47,920
 I'm of approval of the present the PNZ calendar with the change of March to a single meeting

850
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,920
 on March 20th.

851
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,920
 Okay.

852
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,920
 Commissioner Cole?

853
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,920
 Second.

854
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,920
 Okay.

855
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,720
 Is there any discussion with that change?

856
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:55,720
 Okay.

857
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:56,720
 Great.

858
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:04,040
 I'm going to vote then, please.

859
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,480
 That motion carries 6-0, and thanks to all staff for working through that and doing those

860
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,600
 timelines and all of that.

861
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,600
 Very much appreciated.

862
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,600
 Okay.

863
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:20,400
 That will take us to 4B, PP23-0021, and Julie is here to present that item.

864
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,040
 Good evening, Julie Wyatt, Principal Planner with the City of Denton.

865
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:31,280
 I am presenting PP23-0021.

866
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,240
 This is a preliminary plat for a multifamily development near the intersection of Mayhill

867
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,280
 and Edwards.

868
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,520
 On your backup, it did have a recommendation of denial.

869
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,960
 They did have a couple of items they needed to work through in order to meet the technical

870
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,440
 requirements for platting.

871
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,040
 Since the agenda posted, they have been able to work through those, and so staff is recommending

872
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,760
 approval of the preliminary plat, and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

873
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,760
 Okay.

874
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,760
 Thank you, Julie.

875
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,760
 Any questions for Julie?

876
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,760
 Thank you.

877
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,240
 I do not see any thanks.

878
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,240
 Commissioner Smith.

879
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:04,600
 Make a motion to approve.

880
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,600
 Commissioner Perrett.

881
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,600
 Second.

882
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,480
 I've got a first and a second for approval.

883
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,480
 Any discussion?

884
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,480
 Okay.

885
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:17,820
 Let's vote, please.

886
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:19,880
 That motion carries 6-0.

887
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,320
 That will take us to 4C, FP23-0030.

888
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,560
 Shawn is here to present that item.

889
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,560
 Good evening.

890
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,560
 Good evening.

891
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,560
 Shawn Jacobson, Associate Planner.

892
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:40,920
 I'm just gonna pull my item up here.

893
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,480
 So this is a final plat for the 100 North Loop 288 edition.

894
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,440
 This is located at the corner of Mayhill and Loop 288.

895
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,000
 At this time, it does not meet our criteria for approval, and therefore staff is not recommending

896
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,560
 approval, but does not have any objection to the second requested extension to a date

897
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480
 certain of December 13th, 2023.

898
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,520
 Thank you, Shawn.

899
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,820
 Any questions for Shawn?

900
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:09,820
 Commissioner Villarreal.

901
00:49:09,820 --> 00:49:12,960
 Do we believe the second extension will provide them with enough time to?

902
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,960
 We do.

903
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,960
 Okay.

904
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
 Thank you.

905
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,960
 Commissioner Smith.

906
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,640
 Make a motion to approve the extension to date certain of December 13th, 2023.

907
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,520
 Thank you, Commissioner Cole.

908
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,520
 Second.

909
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,520
 Okay.

910
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,520
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of December

911
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,240
 13th, 2023.

912
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240
 Any discussion?

913
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:33,240
 Okay.

914
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:40,200
 Let's vote, please.

915
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
 That motion carries 6-0.

916
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,520
 That will take us to 4D, FP23-0031.

917
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,060
 Shawn is here again for presentation.

918
00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:50,060
 Good evening again.

919
00:49:50,060 --> 00:49:53,240
 Shawn Jacobson, Associate Planner.

920
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:58,000
 This is a proposed final plat for the Mayhill edition.

921
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,420
 This is off Mayhill.

922
00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:03,880
 At this time, it does not meet our criteria for approval, therefore staff is recommending

923
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:09,400
 denial, but does not object to the first requested extension to a date certain of December 13th.

924
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,240
 Happy to answer any questions.

925
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:12,920
 Thank you.

926
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,920
 Questions for Shawn?

927
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,920
 Thank you.

928
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,840
 Thank you, Commissioner Villarreal.

929
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,120
 I move approval of the extension to a date certain of December 13th, 2023.

930
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,120
 Thank you, Commissioner Cole.

931
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,120
 Second.

932
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,120
 Okay.

933
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,480
 We've got a first and a second to grant the extension request to a date certain of December

934
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,080
 13th, 2023.

935
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,080
 Any discussion?

936
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,080
 Okay.

937
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:44,240
 Let's vote on the board, please.

938
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,240
 That motion carries 6-0.

939
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:51,000
 That will take us to 4E, FP23-0028.

940
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,560
 Ashley is way up for presentation.

941
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,560
 Hi.

942
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,560
 Good evening.

943
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,800
 Ashley Eckstead, Assistant Planner.

944
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,200
 This is FP23-0028.

945
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,040
 This is a final plat for Sagebrook Phase 2.

946
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,200
 This is for 42 residential lots on approximately 9.5 acres.

947
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560
 This was originally an extension request, but they have worked through all their outstanding

948
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,600
 comments and we are now recommending approval.

949
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,720
 I'm happy to answer any questions.

950
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,460
 Thanks, Ashley.

951
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:18,600
 Any questions?

952
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,680
 Okay.

953
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,680
 Thank you.

954
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,680
 Commissioner Smith.

955
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,160
 Make a motion to approve.

956
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,160
 Commissioner Cole.

957
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,160
 Second.

958
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,840
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

959
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,840
 Discussion?

960
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,840
 Okay.

961
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:37,800
 Let's vote, please.

962
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,640
 That motion carries 6-0.

963
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,640
 That will take us to 4F, FP23-0029.

964
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,740
 Ashley here again.

965
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:49,120
 This is FP23-0029.

966
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,400
 This is a final plat for Sagebrook Phase 2B.

967
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,720
 This is for 115 residential lots on approximately 24 acres.

968
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,960
 They also were able to work through all of their outstanding comments and we are also

969
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,320
 recommending approval on their final plat.

970
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,320
 Happy to answer any questions.

971
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,320
 Thank you.

972
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,800
 I do not see any questions.

973
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,200
 Thank you very much.

974
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,200
 Commissioner Smith.

975
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,520
 Make a motion to approve.

976
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,520
 Commissioner McDade.

977
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,520
 Second.

978
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,520
 Okay.

979
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,760
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

980
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,240
 Any discussion?

981
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,600
 Okay.

982
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:25,760
 Let's vote, please.

983
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,080
 That motion carries 6-0.

984
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,080
 That will take us to 4G, FP23-0032.

985
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,240
 Hello again, Ashley.

986
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:35,240
 Hello.

987
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,260
 This one is a final plat for the cottages.

988
00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:42,300
 This is one multifamily lot on approximately 1.8 acres.

989
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:46,280
 At this time, we are recommending denials that they do not meet all of our criteria for approval,

990
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,920
 but we have no objection to the requested extension to a date certain of December 13th,

991
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,920
 2023.

992
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,920
 Happy to answer any questions.

993
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,920
 Thank you.

994
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,000
 I do not see any questions.

995
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000
 Oh, yes, I do.

996
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,000
 Commissioner Villarreal.

997
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,000
 Just real quick.

998
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,320
 Do we believe they're able to complete the task within the length of the second extension?

999
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,480
 They're not going to require a third or a fourth extension?

1000
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,840
 Yes, they have very few comments remaining on this one.

1001
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,840
 Okay.

1002
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,840
 Thank you.

1003
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,840
 Commissioner Smith.

1004
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,200
 Make a motion to approve the extension request date certain December 13th, 2023.

1005
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,200
 Commissioner Pruitt?

1006
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,200
 Second.

1007
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,200
 Okay.

1008
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,360
 We've got a first and a second to approve the extension request to a date certain of

1009
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,200
 December 13th, 2023.

1010
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,200
 Any discussion?

1011
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,200
 Okay.

1012
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:35,120
 Let's vote, please.

1013
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,140
 That motion carries 6-0.

1014
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:40,240
 That will take us to our public hearings for this evening.

1015
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:46,040
 First one is 5A, DCA230011.

1016
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,560
 Cameron's making her way down for presentation.

1017
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,560
 That public hearing was opened on our meeting on October 25th, and it was left open.

1018
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,560
 Good evening.

1019
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,560
 Good evening.

1020
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:01,320
 Cameron Robertson, principal planner.

1021
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,960
 This is for DCA230011, Private Cemetery Use.

1022
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:14,200
 So House Bill 783, that was passed this past summer and needs to be implemented by September

1023
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,200
 1st.

1024
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,560
 Essentially, this House Bill is allowing for individuals, corporations, partnerships, firms,

1025
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:27,560
 trusts or associations to establish or use a cemetery in a municipality that is located

1026
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,640
 in a county with a population of more than 750,000.

1027
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:38,360
 Currently, the city does not regulate nor does it recognize this land use.

1028
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:44,880
 Staff did feel that it was necessary to allow for this use in zoning districts where funeral

1029
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,800
 and interment facilities are permitted, with the exception of our mixed use downtown core,

1030
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,920
 as well as allow for this use in residential rural, our R2 districts, as well as our public

1031
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:03,960
 facilities where current non-city-owned cemeteries currently reside.

1032
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:10,600
 So in terms of that, the staff has made recommendations and proposed amendments to four different

1033
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,040
 debt and development code sections.

1034
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,040
 The first one was that Table 5.2-A, which I just had.

1035
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,600
 The next one is 5.3.4-I.

1036
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:27,360
 This is a new addition for cemetery privately owned, which relates to stating that the cemetery

1037
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:33,040
 does need to comply with our Texas Health and Safety Code, which does include a discrimination

1038
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,560
 clause.

1039
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,880
 In addition, it does require that a privately owned cemetery may not be maintained in a

1040
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,440
 manner that does adversely affect public health, safety or welfare.

1041
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,100
 We've also made amendments to our minimum required off-street parking.

1042
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:56,200
 It will be following that same city-owned cemetery use.

1043
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,960
 So it will not require a minimum parking requirement.

1044
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:05,080
 Lastly, we do need to define what privately owned cemeteries are.

1045
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:11,320
 So using that Texas Health and Safety Code, as well as that House Bill 783, staff has

1046
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:17,840
 implemented a place established by some individual corporation, partnership, firm, trust or association

1047
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:23,400
 that is used or intended to be used for internment and includes a graveyard, burial park, mausoleum

1048
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,000
 or any other area containing one or more graves.

1049
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,480
 So staff is recommending approval, as it does meet our Code Text amendments, as outlined

1050
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,200
 in our Section 2.7.4-D of the Debt and Development Code.

1051
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,240
 And staff's next steps are going to City Council on December 5th.

1052
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,440
 And I can stand for any questions.

1053
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,440
 >> Thank you, Cameron.

1054
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,440
 Any questions?

1055
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,440
 Okay.

1056
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:52,000
 Thank you very much.

1057
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,000
 Commissioner Smith?

1058
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
 >> I make a motion to approve.

1059
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,120
 >> Great.

1060
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,120
 Commissioner Cole?

1061
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,120
 >> Second.

1062
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,120
 >> Okay.

1063
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,880
 We've got a first and a second for approval.

1064
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,880
 Any discussion?

1065
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,880
 Okay.

1066
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:16,640
 Let's go ahead and vote, please.

1067
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,280
 That motion carries 6-0.

1068
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:25,800
 And I am going to just step back because I did actually not close the public hearing

1069
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,560
 on that item.

1070
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,560
 So I guess -- okay.

1071
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,520
 We will go ahead and close the public hearing.

1072
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
 I did not have any cards wishing to speak on that item.

1073
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,480
 I apologize.

1074
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,680
 That will now take us to 5-B. That's Z230012.

1075
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,840
 Sean is here for presentation.

1076
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,960
 I will open the public hearing.

1077
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,960
 >> Okay.

1078
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:58,120
 Good evening, Sean Jacobson, Associate Planner, here to present Z23-0012.

1079
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,280
 The Teasley commercial rezoning.

1080
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,480
 This is a request for rezoning from a planned development to a suburban corridor zoning

1081
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,840
 on a 1.09-acre tract east of Teasley and south of Robinson, essentially just south of that

1082
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,840
 intersection.

1083
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,320
 Background here, this was part of a PD, PD 176, that was created in 1999.

1084
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,640
 As part of that PD and the following amendments to it, this was part of an area designated

1085
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,960
 for commercial development, and one aspect of that is that the property is now vested

1086
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,760
 in a number of outdated codes, so everything from the 1998 landscape code to the 2003 parking

1087
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,920
 code.

1088
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:43,280
 And a little background, at that time we created a number of PDs because the 1991 code was

1089
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,600
 essentially on its last legs.

1090
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,160
 We were getting very close to updating it, but it was fairly outdated, and so PDs were

1091
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,560
 being created in part to address the fact that we had a very old code.

1092
00:58:54,560 --> 00:59:00,400
 At this time, this rezoning would allow development of the site under suburban corridor uses,

1093
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,880
 but under our current DDC standards.

1094
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,200
 So staff is recommending approval.

1095
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,980
 Just to give you a little, we went into just a little bit of the history there, it is currently

1096
00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:11,600
 a vacant lot.

1097
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,040
 It's the last remaining lot in this area, surrounded by developed commercial and industrial

1098
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,040
 properties.

1099
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,840
 Industrial, that's just self-service storage, but we do classify it that way.

1100
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,480
 There is a drive aisle and infrastructure already built onto this lot that connect it

1101
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,080
 to the surrounding commercial development.

1102
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,720
 As we said, mix of somewhat outdated codes applies, you see on the table there.

1103
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,120
 We did confirm that there are no previously approved conditions of approval that still

1104
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,760
 apply to this lot.

1105
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,840
 So there have been various plans approved over the years as part of this PD, but none

1106
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,680
 of those provisions apply to this lot that have not already been met.

1107
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,080
 So the impact of this, this would enable development of a similar mix of uses as is currently permitted

1108
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,080
 by the PD.

1109
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,120
 It would exclude some uses that would not necessarily be appropriate such as vehicle

1110
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:02,240
 sales, commercial laundry, dormitory, and it would require that any development follow

1111
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,240
 our current standards.

1112
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,400
 So current landscape code, street trees, which were not required by the code, this would

1113
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,400
 be under, et cetera.

1114
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,800
 As you know, one of the most important things we look at is consistency with our comprehensive

1115
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400
 plan and our future land use map.

1116
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,200
 The suburban quarter zoning district is consistent with the primary future land use designation

1117
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,080
 here, which is community mixed use.

1118
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:28,600
 So that's where commercial uses are predominant and it's designed to bring commercial that

1119
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,920
 raises the standard of design.

1120
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,600
 So again, keep in mind that this would ensure that any future development would follow our

1121
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,760
 current code that does align with the intent of that future land use.

1122
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:44,480
 In addition, this does help to further the goals of our comprehensive plan, goal LU3,

1123
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,760
 maintaining, strengthening neighborhoods, commercial employment areas.

1124
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,480
 One of our actions there is to create and apply design and development standards to

1125
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,280
 improve development quality and functionality.

1126
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,920
 So again, bringing development there up to our current code levels.

1127
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,720
 We did send out the standard notifications on this and received no responses.

1128
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,620
 The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting and no one was in attendance.

1129
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:11,920
 So with that, staff does recommend approval because this does meet our criteria for approval.

1130
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,200
 Happy to stand for any questions and the applicant is also here, although I believe it does not

1131
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,960
 have a presentation, but can certainly answer questions.

1132
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,080
 >> Thank you, Sean.

1133
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,880
 Any questions for Sean?

1134
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:28,480
 Sean, they would, I assume, use this drive that is currently there that services the

1135
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,200
 other spaces or would they need another one?

1136
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,920
 >> That would be my -- they could develop with the existing drive that would give them

1137
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,320
 the two points of access and cross-access that we require.

1138
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,320
 >> Okay.

1139
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,060
 I do not see any other questions.

1140
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:46,720
 Thank you.

1141
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,720
 This is a public hearing.

1142
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:48,860
 I don't have any cards.

1143
01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:52,720
 Is there anyone wishing to speak on this item?

1144
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,280
 Okay.

1145
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,120
 With that, I will go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion

1146
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:06,440
 or a motion.

1147
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,440
 Commissioner Smith?

1148
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,960
 >> Make a motion to approve.

1149
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,960
 >> Commissioner Cole?

1150
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,960
 >> Second.

1151
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,540
 >> We've got a first and a second for approval.

1152
01:02:13,540 --> 01:02:17,120
 Any discussion?

1153
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,120
 Commissioner Villarreal?

1154
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,120
 >> Yeah.

1155
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,280
 Very much appreciate all the work you all have done on this and definitely want to make

1156
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,200
 sure we are updating the standards to the current code.

1157
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:34,880
 However, I have apprehension at removing the public hearing requirement in the PD and perhaps

1158
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,760
 some negative precedents this may set.

1159
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,080
 So with that, I will be voting no.

1160
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,080
 Thank you.

1161
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,080
 >> Thank you.

1162
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,080
 Commissioner Perrett?

1163
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,160
 >> Point of clarification.

1164
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,580
 This is a public hearing now, right?

1165
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:51,000
 So are we removing this public hearing from the process and the public hearing that would

1166
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,120
 be present at council?

1167
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:01,200
 >> Well, I mean, this has to go before council.

1168
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,200
 >> Yeah.

1169
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,200
 So there's this public hearing as an opportunity for the public to speak and then there will

1170
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,320
 be another public hearing at council to speak.

1171
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,320
 >> Oh, absolutely.

1172
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,320
 >> Okay.

1173
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,320
 >> Right.

1174
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:22,920
 >> So, look, there are many times that we set PDs as the zoning for good reasons because

1175
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,720
 we can't achieve what we need to for that parcel.

1176
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:34,120
 Doing so does not guarantee that it will never change, just like any zoning change.

1177
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:42,080
 It guarantees our citizens to do process, the ability to come before us again if it

1178
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,160
 does change and speak their minds.

1179
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:52,840
 I, like many of you, wish others would have come tonight, but this was properly noticed,

1180
01:03:52,840 --> 01:04:01,000
 the information in the back up of the notification process, and we're here tonight to be able

1181
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,680
 to clean up our code so that residents and business owners can contribute to our city

1182
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:15,520
 with less friction when they're really just looking to develop essentially the same thing

1183
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,280
 they're already allowed to.

1184
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:26,840
 I don't see why making that process more onerous on staff and the applicants has any benefit

1185
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,920
 when we still have a dual public hearing in this process as well.

1186
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:32,920
 Thank you.

1187
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:33,920
 >> Thank you.

1188
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,920
 Commissioner Villarreal.

1189
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,120
 >> Definitely respect that point of view.

1190
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:43,240
 However, this is a bit more nebulous than a development coming before us in the community

1191
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,920
 having a chance to voice their piece on that development, so with that I'm going to stick

1192
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,920
 to my vote.

1193
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,920
 Thanks.

1194
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:50,920
 >> Any other discussion?

1195
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,800
 I'll go ahead and just say a few words.

1196
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:02,720
 I did have a couple of concerns with this request at work session that between how Sean

1197
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:12,280
 and Haley answered my questions and I delved further into the situation, while I appreciate

1198
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:19,560
 what the PD had in respect to having a public hearing on the design plan, when you think

1199
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,880
 about the fact that this is dealing with an old code, it is the last parcel that's here.

1200
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:32,920
 It is a one-acre site, so that's going to eliminate many things from being able to go

1201
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,920
 there.

1202
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:43,560
 And with our current code, I feel comfortable that the buffer to that adjacent neighborhood

1203
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,200
 will be absolutely adequate.

1204
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,720
 So yeah, I'm happy to have answered my question.

1205
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,120
 So thank you all.

1206
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,120
 There's no further discussion.

1207
01:05:52,120 --> 01:06:01,560
 I'll go ahead and call for a vote, please.

1208
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,520
 That motion carries 5-1.

1209
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:12,360
 That will take us to our matrix, so I will go ahead and turn that over to Haley.

1210
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,120
 >> All right.

1211
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,840
 So with this evening's work session discussion, we will be able to strike a couple of the

1212
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:26,560
 understanding items off of our matrix, so we'll get that updated at our next meeting.

1213
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,840
 Just a few announcements related to council action.

1214
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:37,440
 There was a few items that were voted on on the November 7th agenda, and let me flip over

1215
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,440
 to that.

1216
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,920
 We do have an annexation that is working through the process that's out on East McKinney Street.

1217
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,280
 So once that process is complete, I'm sure you all will see a zoning case coming before

1218
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,600
 you soon after.

1219
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,620
 The criteria manual for street lighting as well as the associated code amendment were

1220
01:06:54,620 --> 01:06:56,960
 approved by council.

1221
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,760
 We did have at that meeting a Tisley Lane multifamily specific use permit that was approved.

1222
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,280
 It was a pretty lengthy and lively discussion.

1223
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:10,480
 If you're interested in watching, there was quite a bit of debate regarding the tree preservation

1224
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,560
 on the lot, the access to the lot and things of that nature, but it was ultimately approved.

1225
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,040
 And then if you followed that meeting and the subsequent meeting, you'll notice that

1226
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:25,400
 the Stuart apartments, the SUP for the additional building height, was initially denied by council,

1227
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,860
 but a motion was made to reconsider, and at last night's meeting, they did approve that

1228
01:07:29,860 --> 01:07:30,860
 motion to reconsider.

1229
01:07:30,860 --> 01:07:37,680
 So that will be back before council in December for further consideration.

1230
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,000
 Some things for you all to keep in mind related to some of our area plans.

1231
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,360
 We do have the downtown advisory group meeting tomorrow afternoon at 2 p.m.

1232
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,620
 That'll be at the development service center.

1233
01:07:47,620 --> 01:07:50,840
 If you're interested in following along with that.

1234
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,640
 And then on December 4th, we do have a workshop for downtown that will be at 6 p.m. in the

1235
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,560
 evening at the UNT Cola building in downtown.

1236
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,960
 So you're welcome to stop by and participate and see how that event is progressing.

1237
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,720
 And then the following day on December 5th, there is a joint meeting with PNZ and council

1238
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,760
 and the downtown or I'm sorry, with the parks board regarding the downtown plan.

1239
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,840
 So that will also be our building at 11 o'clock.

1240
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,040
 So I'm sure you have it on your calendars already.

1241
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,240
 But if not, thank you.

1242
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,240
 You're now noticed.

1243
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,240
 Yes.

1244
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,240
 Thank you.

1245
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,240
 What was that?

1246
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,240
 Commissioner Cole.

1247
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,240
 Thank you, Chair.

1248
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,240
 What was that date again?

1249
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,880
 December 5th.

1250
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,000
 Okay.

1251
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,560
 Anything to add to the matrix?

1252
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,000
 I have one thing.

1253
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,880
 It comes from watching that lively discussion at the council meeting and it led me to think

1254
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:50,000
 that perhaps a discussion, a work session item regarding the concern over the subdividing

1255
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:58,720
 of commercial lots and losing tree preservation in doing so, can we maybe have a discussion

1256
01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,720
 on that?

1257
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,880
 I think it could help us understand better what that means and understand that concern

1258
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:14,440
 by a council member, just to kind of see if we should be doing that, how often we do that,

1259
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:15,840
 just that kind of discussion.

1260
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:16,840
 Sure.

1261
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,640
 We can bring forward a discussion regarding the tree code and the subdivision process.

1262
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,640
 Okay.

1263
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,640
 Excellent.

1264
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,640
 Thank you very much.

1265
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,840
 Anything else on the matrix?

1266
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,960
 Any concluding items?

1267
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,840
 Okay.

1268
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,320
 With that I'll go ahead and adjourn our meeting at 6.57 p.m.

1269
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,400
 Thank you very much, everyone.