WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.200 - So I guess I'll open my name first. 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:08.440 So today is Tuesday, November 7th, 2023. 00:00:08.440 --> 00:00:11.080 It is 11.37 a.m. 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:14.080 We do have a forum, so I'll call the City Council 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.560 portion of the meeting to order. 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:20.680 Turn it over to Board of Trustees and President Spieparst. 00:00:20.680 --> 00:00:23.120 - And we have a forum as well, 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:27.160 so we can begin to (mumbles) 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.280 - Excellent, thank you very much. 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.120 City Manager, Superintendent, anything to start off with, 00:00:32.120 --> 00:00:34.220 open and safe, anything like that, Chair? 00:00:34.220 --> 00:00:35.060 - No, we're ready. 00:00:35.060 --> 00:00:35.880 - I'll get it. 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:36.720 Okay. 00:00:36.720 --> 00:00:37.560 - Can I get a meeting for you today? 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.380 - Yeah, excellent. 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:40.640 Excellent. 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:42.560 Well, but let's do, let's do point this out. 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.520 So we have, Doc, so we had a World Series champion 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:48.160 that went to where? 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:50.120 Guyer, is that right? 00:00:50.120 --> 00:00:52.020 Associated with Guyer? 00:00:52.020 --> 00:00:55.320 - Jackson Rutherford. 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:56.600 He's associated with Guyer High School, 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:58.880 and his mom is a long-time PTA member. 00:00:58.880 --> 00:00:59.720 - Yes. 00:00:59.720 --> 00:01:00.820 - Jenny Mabry. 00:01:00.820 --> 00:01:01.660 - Excellent. 00:01:01.660 --> 00:01:04.420 - And she's an actress, too, which is kind of interesting. 00:01:04.420 --> 00:01:05.260 - Man. 00:01:05.260 --> 00:01:06.360 - Got Jackson Rutherford, again, 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:09.160 state champion with Macy Wingard. 00:01:09.160 --> 00:01:10.000 - Yeah. 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:11.200 - Cross country this last week. 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.240 She's just a sophomore, so we expect a couple more. 00:01:13.240 --> 00:01:14.080 - Wow. 00:01:14.080 --> 00:01:16.600 - So exciting times for that as well. 00:01:16.600 --> 00:01:17.440 - Excellent. 00:01:17.440 --> 00:01:18.480 - And then three teams in the football playoffs 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:20.160 this Friday night. 00:01:20.160 --> 00:01:22.080 Guyer and (coughing drowns out speaker) 00:01:22.080 --> 00:01:22.920 - The Broncos. 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.760 - Ryan's hosting, Ryan's hosting in St. Collins, 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:27.840 so you guys come out and watch them play against Lake Hill. 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:28.680 - Okay. 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:29.500 - It's Friday night. 00:01:29.500 --> 00:01:30.340 - Is it Friday night? 00:01:30.340 --> 00:01:33.540 - They're Friday night, and they are in Collier, okay? 00:01:33.540 --> 00:01:34.380 - Wow. 00:01:34.380 --> 00:01:35.200 - Yeah. 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:37.300 - And then Guyer's playing compel at compel. 00:01:37.300 --> 00:01:39.440 It's busy. 00:01:39.440 --> 00:01:40.260 - Wow. 00:01:40.260 --> 00:01:43.080 - But of all the things, if anyone here gets an opportunity 00:01:43.080 --> 00:01:47.000 to go see the musical at Guyer this week, 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:48.800 it's last week and this week, 00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:51.000 it'll be your least expensive ticket 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.780 for the most professional show you'll ever be a part of. 00:01:53.780 --> 00:01:54.620 - Mr. Shep. 00:01:54.620 --> 00:01:55.460 - Fantastic. 00:01:55.460 --> 00:01:56.760 - Mr. Shep. 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.320 - It's a different, it's a weird thing. 00:01:59.320 --> 00:02:01.360 I mean, this opportunity is really, really good. 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:02.200 - Yeah. 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:03.020 - Susanna, look it up. 00:02:03.020 --> 00:02:03.860 - Yeah, I just-- 00:02:03.860 --> 00:02:04.700 - Okay. 00:02:04.700 --> 00:02:05.540 - We'll let you know before we eat. 00:02:05.540 --> 00:02:06.380 - Yeah, we'll come back. 00:02:06.380 --> 00:02:07.520 - It wasn't one that was familiar to me. 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:09.720 - That's why, you know, like, if it was Mamma Mia, 00:02:09.720 --> 00:02:10.560 we would know. 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:11.400 - Right, right. 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:12.840 (laughing) 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:13.680 - We would know. 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:14.520 - Yeah. 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:15.360 (laughing) 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:16.200 - Well, great. 00:02:16.200 --> 00:02:17.480 Well, I wanted to start off with those things 00:02:17.480 --> 00:02:20.360 so that those that are watching potentially, 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:21.640 or we can share the link out, 00:02:21.640 --> 00:02:24.120 but congratulations to all those, 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.120 and thank you for the tip for a date night. 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:29.760 - Yeah, I'm telling you, it starts Thursday. 00:02:29.760 --> 00:02:31.840 Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.520 a couple days, it's really good. 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.080 - Okay, thank you very much. 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.720 Okay, so now we'll take us to our first item, 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:43.680 item A, ID 231731, receive a fourth hold discussion, 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.000 give staff direction regarding an update 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.080 on the implementation of education code, 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:54.080 section 37.081, armed security officers required. 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:54.960 - Okay. 00:02:54.960 --> 00:03:08.200 - Okay, good afternoon, sorry, morning still, 00:03:08.200 --> 00:03:13.040 members of the council, Mr. Mayor, and the ISD school board. 00:03:13.040 --> 00:03:14.680 We have a brief presentation for you 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.760 to talk a little bit about the effects of House Bill 3, 00:03:17.760 --> 00:03:20.560 which, as we all know, dealt with security 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.760 and policing within the schools on a statewide level, 00:03:23.760 --> 00:03:25.680 and exactly what that would affect 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:27.960 how we do what we do currently with our SROs 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:29.480 and plans for DISD. 00:03:29.480 --> 00:03:32.800 So today on the presentation is our Deputy Chief 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.760 in charge of services that has oversight of all things 00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:39.200 SRO and DISD from the Denton Police Department standpoint, 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:41.600 Deputy Chief Derek Bradford, and I'll turn it over to Derek, 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:44.720 and we also, of course, have been working through this 00:03:44.720 --> 00:03:47.600 as a side note for several months with our partners of the ISD, 00:03:47.600 --> 00:03:50.240 Dr. Wilson and your staff have been very accommodating, 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:51.600 and we appreciate that partnership 00:03:51.600 --> 00:03:52.640 and that continued partnership. 00:03:52.640 --> 00:03:55.400 So we're here for questions, we'll do a brief presentation, 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.760 and I look forward to it, so, Mayor? 00:03:57.760 --> 00:03:59.120 - Chief. 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.000 - Good morning, all, thank you for having us out. 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.000 It's a pleasure to be here to speak with you. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:07.600 As Chief mentioned, House Bill 3 was a lot of legislation 00:04:07.600 --> 00:04:09.840 dealing with school security. 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.080 Today we're gonna go over very specific things 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.920 regarding armed security on campus. 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:18.240 That's the provision of law that we're gonna talk about. 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.320 Over to you today, we'll talk about the law, 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:22.120 then we will talk about our plan 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.560 to incorporate an interlocal contract via MOU 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.920 to implement this plan with ISD in partnership with NPD, 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.000 and provide you with a proposed timeline 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.760 of how we envision that that's gonna come through. 00:04:34.760 --> 00:04:36.440 So the law in House Bill 3, 00:04:36.440 --> 00:04:38.680 as it relates to measures of school safety, 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.840 went into effect on September 1st. 00:04:40.840 --> 00:04:44.040 Again, legislation was sweeping and had lots of things 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.080 and multifaceted stuff to do with safety. 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:48.520 Today we're talking about the provision that requires, 00:04:48.520 --> 00:04:51.120 by state law, an armed security personnel 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.600 on each school campus. 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.880 State legislators put out that the school board, 00:04:55.880 --> 00:04:58.120 and in this case, the Denton ISD school board, 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.440 shall determine the necessary amount 00:05:00.440 --> 00:05:03.160 of the armed school safety officers, 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:05.880 but at least one must be on each campus. 00:05:05.880 --> 00:05:08.600 Well, as all of you all know, we have our armed SROs 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:10.600 on the middle school and high school campuses 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:15.400 that Denton PD provides to Denton ISD via that MOU. 00:05:15.400 --> 00:05:18.000 So how does that affect that relationship? 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:19.960 Well, they outlined security officer 00:05:19.960 --> 00:05:22.120 that there's three different options. 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:24.120 The first one is it must be a peace officer. 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.880 So any of our SROs that are on campuses already 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:28.480 meet that requirement. 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:30.760 The other ones are a school marshal program. 00:05:30.760 --> 00:05:32.200 You may have heard about some of that news. 00:05:32.200 --> 00:05:35.320 It's a specific training that the school marshal program 00:05:35.320 --> 00:05:38.560 exists via TECOL, which is our state licensing agency, 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.440 Texas Commission on Law Enforcement. 00:05:40.440 --> 00:05:41.520 If you're not familiar with it, 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:43.680 think of it as TEA in the school setting 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:45.800 as to law enforcement officers with TECOL. 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.680 They give us the credentials and the specifics 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.040 that you need to hold a licensed police officer. 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.200 They have a TECOL has created a program 00:05:54.200 --> 00:05:56.760 with school marshals that you would employ a school marshal 00:05:56.760 --> 00:05:59.800 to go through a specific training and be on campus. 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.400 Or the other option was any district employee with training 00:06:03.400 --> 00:06:05.760 could carry a firearm and need one. 00:06:05.760 --> 00:06:08.640 The option that Denton ISD and Denton PD in conjunction 00:06:08.640 --> 00:06:11.080 would like to go together is a peace officer. 00:06:11.080 --> 00:06:13.240 So that's what we're gonna talk about today. 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.560 Implementing that would look like entering 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.680 into an interlocal cooperation contract 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:20.720 via a memorandum of understanding 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.040 between Denton ISD and Denton PD 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:27.000 to assist with providing peace officers on campus. 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:28.600 TECOL recently made a change 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.640 where individuals can be licensed to be peace officers 00:06:31.640 --> 00:06:34.040 without being commissioned to peace officers. 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.200 What that means is I, as a teacher 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:38.240 and licensed to go teach at any school, 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.040 it's when they hire me, I'm now teaching for that school. 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.120 The same is now true with peace officers 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.320 that you don't have to be attached and commissioned 00:06:45.320 --> 00:06:46.880 with a specific department, 00:06:46.880 --> 00:06:48.800 but you still hold all the same credentials 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.320 that you would need to be a peace officer at an agency. 00:06:51.320 --> 00:06:54.040 So our plan is to allow Denton ISD 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.440 to hire school security officers. 00:06:56.440 --> 00:06:57.760 That would be individuals 00:06:57.760 --> 00:07:00.360 who are licensed to be peace officers. 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:01.800 The target market right now 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.400 is someone who has probably spent a few years 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:06.480 and is now a retired peace officer. 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.840 And they would hold the responsibility with Denton ISD 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:12.440 to be that armed peace officer on campus. 00:07:12.440 --> 00:07:14.200 They're not a Denton police officer, 00:07:14.200 --> 00:07:16.160 but they hold a peace officer license. 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.240 What that would look like is that Denton ISD 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.400 is going to be the hiring agency. 00:07:21.400 --> 00:07:25.360 So all facets of employer to employee relationship 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.320 is handled at the Denton ISD level. 00:07:27.320 --> 00:07:29.280 What we envision is that Denton PD 00:07:29.280 --> 00:07:32.320 will provide support and training to those individuals 00:07:32.320 --> 00:07:34.200 via the ongoing training that's required 00:07:34.200 --> 00:07:35.880 to maintain their licensure, 00:07:35.880 --> 00:07:37.720 which was also updated by TECOL recently 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.920 to include several different classes, 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:41.720 including alert training if you're familiar 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.880 with active law enforcement rapid response training, 00:07:44.880 --> 00:07:46.680 active shooter response, et cetera. 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.360 That's an ongoing training now required 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.260 for every peace officer in Texas. 00:07:50.260 --> 00:07:54.600 So that's where Denton PD comes in partnership 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.260 with Denton ISD to provide that TECOL mandated training. 00:07:58.260 --> 00:08:00.320 In this interlocal cooperation contract, 00:08:00.320 --> 00:08:02.920 we're going to agree to provide 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.920 all that TECOL mandated training 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.560 to the Denton ISD school security officers. 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.320 Just wanted to point out, 00:08:10.320 --> 00:08:11.880 'cause I know I've actually been in this room, 00:08:11.880 --> 00:08:13.840 I think last year, talking with folks 00:08:13.840 --> 00:08:17.880 about if a law enforcement event were to happen, 00:08:17.880 --> 00:08:21.480 who's in charge when law enforcement shows up at schools? 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.480 Inside this interlocal contract, 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.100 it will state that any criminal response, 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:29.120 if Denton PD shows up and it's Denton PD's jurisdiction, 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.320 will reside with Denton PD. 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:34.240 The school safety officer is there to maintain, 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:35.400 school security officer is there 00:08:35.400 --> 00:08:37.520 to maintain safety and security, 00:08:37.520 --> 00:08:40.000 and if an event were to happen, they would take action, 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.960 but once Denton PD arrives on scene, 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.720 it's now a criminal response handled 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:45.140 by a Denton police officer. 00:08:45.140 --> 00:08:48.960 So the timeline that we proposed 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.800 is Denton ISD actually made an offer 00:08:50.800 --> 00:08:55.000 to hire a civilian director of safety and security. 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.880 And so going forth, we'd like to create 00:08:57.880 --> 00:09:00.960 that policy and procedure with the interlocal contract, 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.320 and their director of safety and security 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:06.820 works on their own in-house procedures and policies, 00:09:06.820 --> 00:09:11.040 uniforms, all the minutiae of a new program, et cetera, 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:15.120 all through November, eventually hiring some SSOs 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.820 to come on board with Denton ISD in December, 00:09:17.820 --> 00:09:23.120 looking to get the MOU approved by both entities here 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:24.680 in December as well. 00:09:24.680 --> 00:09:27.320 Then all through December, early January, 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.360 we'll be making sure that the school security officers 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.480 are trained and ready to go to be on campus, 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.440 and Denton ISD would decide where they would implement 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:38.600 those that get hired on first. 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.200 It's gonna be a plan that they're gonna come up with 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.640 in-house, but they would be on campuses coming January. 00:09:43.640 --> 00:09:46.000 And then as we move into the rest of the year, 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.720 February, Denton ISD, Denton PD would get together 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.920 and actually work out what the ongoing training 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:54.360 would look like from this point forward, 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.240 and discuss how that's gonna merge together 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.600 and what trainings they'd be brought in, et cetera. 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.160 And then moving forward after that, 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:02.700 we would continually reassess that relationship 00:10:02.700 --> 00:10:04.800 and make sure everybody's getting what they need out of it, 00:10:04.800 --> 00:10:06.680 whether they're receiving the training, 00:10:06.680 --> 00:10:09.000 the school security officers receiving their training 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.440 that they need, et cetera. 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:14.120 So with all that in mind, do we have any questions 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.080 about the school security? 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.880 - Questions for Stan? 00:10:18.880 --> 00:10:23.760 - Thank you. 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:28.200 Will there be any kind of a matrixed reporting structure 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.320 for the school security officers, for the SROs? 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:36.320 - And the reason I'm asking is I was so impressed 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.680 when I went through Citizens Police Academy, 00:10:38.680 --> 00:10:43.680 learned about the SROs become really caring role models, 00:10:43.680 --> 00:10:46.480 just 'cause they're, by their nature, 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.120 just service-oriented individuals, 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.800 it goes so like above and beyond. 00:10:49.800 --> 00:10:52.680 I'd love to see a culture that they've developed, 00:10:52.680 --> 00:10:55.700 how to be, you know, that presence in the school, 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:59.480 shared with this new, so would they in any way 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.240 be part of our shared management structure? 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.960 - The initial response is no, 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.520 as far as employee-employee relationship. 00:11:06.520 --> 00:11:09.200 The SSOs would report directly to the Director of Safety 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:10.840 and Security at Denton ISD, 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.740 and whatever management structure that they would set up. 00:11:13.740 --> 00:11:15.880 That's not to say that part of that ongoing training 00:11:15.880 --> 00:11:18.600 might be communication with SROs to develop 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.440 some sort of mentorship aspect of education for them, 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.480 but as far as reporting to the SROs 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.280 or in the chain of command with the MPD, the answer's no. 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.520 (clicking) 00:11:31.520 --> 00:11:34.240 (mumbles) 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.840 - Thank you for the information, it's very helpful. 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:38.600 I guess, and this is something that we've talked about 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:41.440 over the years, because right now it seems like 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.040 the city of Denton provides the current SROs, 00:11:45.040 --> 00:11:46.400 and the school district subsidized, 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:49.400 or reimburses the city for some of that cost. 00:11:49.400 --> 00:11:52.560 I don't think it's 100% of the cost yet, is that correct? 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:54.600 - I don't think it is, I think it's for the 10 months 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:55.560 where we use them. 00:11:55.560 --> 00:11:58.600 - Okay, all right, but so you're covering the cost 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.480 for the time that they're actually in, okay. 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.320 - And some training, but then some training goes. 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:10.200 - So what, I guess, the training that you're talking about 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:12.760 for these new hires for the DISD, 00:12:12.760 --> 00:12:14.280 is that training that we're providing, 00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:16.840 is that part of the MOU, that there would be 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:18.920 some kind of cost reimbursement 00:12:18.920 --> 00:12:20.880 associated with that, I presume? 00:12:20.880 --> 00:12:23.540 - Correct, without looking at the document itself, 00:12:23.540 --> 00:12:25.880 I believe it says that we will provide the training. 00:12:25.880 --> 00:12:28.100 Most often, we are already hosting that training 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:29.880 for our own officers that's required, 00:12:29.880 --> 00:12:31.800 so it's as easy as plugging them in, 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:33.920 and the cost associated would be nominal, 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:37.040 like semi-mission rounds for active shooter responses. 00:12:37.040 --> 00:12:39.240 - I'll jump in as well, council member. 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.860 So short answer is we won't be billing DISD for the training, 00:12:42.860 --> 00:12:45.180 that's part of sort of just the working relationship 00:12:45.180 --> 00:12:47.800 we have with DISD, so they'll be included in, 00:12:47.800 --> 00:12:50.920 as Deputy Chief Pratt mentioned, our specific training. 00:12:50.920 --> 00:12:53.380 So we have that overlap of training, 00:12:53.380 --> 00:12:54.680 so everybody's on the same page, 00:12:54.680 --> 00:12:56.680 it's the response, how to do this, 00:12:56.680 --> 00:12:59.680 and that should the thing happen, 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:03.160 lead to a much better, hopefully, outcome because of that. 00:13:03.160 --> 00:13:05.720 So we want that partnership just as much it benefits us, 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.920 it benefits the city, it benefits certainly 00:13:07.920 --> 00:13:09.240 our school district if we do that. 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.800 So that's our way of, we understand that there's a challenge 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:15.520 with the legislation in terms of some funding potentially, 00:13:15.520 --> 00:13:18.280 so this is our way of just being good partners with DISD 00:13:18.280 --> 00:13:19.280 and working forward. 00:13:19.280 --> 00:13:21.400 - So I guess, and I've had this question ever since 00:13:21.400 --> 00:13:23.800 I've been in the office, is there at some point 00:13:23.800 --> 00:13:27.680 DISD has a goal to have their own police department? 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:29.600 I mean, or is it always gonna be something 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.600 that the city, 'cause now, right now, 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.640 what we're having is it's being bifurcated. 00:13:33.640 --> 00:13:36.360 You're having some licensed peace officers 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.960 for this new legislation, and then we have some 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.840 that are Denton police officers. 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:47.000 And as you build new schools, which one is gonna apply? 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.920 Will you be hiring new people according to this plan 00:13:50.920 --> 00:13:52.840 for each new school that's built, is that right? 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.440 - So let me, I think I can clear up part of that. 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.880 The school security officers have one function. 00:13:57.880 --> 00:13:59.640 Safety and security of the school. 00:13:59.640 --> 00:14:02.320 They're not enforcing criminal law. 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.360 They're not arresting people. 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.600 They're not involving any of those things. 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:08.960 Any crime within this community is gonna be handled 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:10.360 by the Denton police department, 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.600 whether it's at a school or anyplace else. 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.800 Now, at the middle school and high school, 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:18.240 we have student resource officers. 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.200 They're providing safety and security and law enforcement. 00:14:23.560 --> 00:14:25.600 At the middle school and high schools. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.080 Current, in the current order. 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.600 They're not just safety and security for security purposes. 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:31.440 - Okay, so this-- 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:32.880 - So if it's a middle school or high school 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:34.080 that's built in the city of Denton, 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.400 we'll move forward with the same thing we've been doing. 00:14:36.400 --> 00:14:39.440 We'll, student resource officers, law enforcement, 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.440 safety, security, criminal activity. 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.920 If it's an elementary school in the city of Denton, 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:45.920 you're gonna get a safety and security officer 00:14:45.920 --> 00:14:47.800 who is a licensed peace officer. 00:14:47.800 --> 00:14:51.560 The decision we made, we could have had any person 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.880 serve in this role as a safety and security officer. 00:14:55.880 --> 00:14:59.080 We felt like this community deserved 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:00.640 to have someone who was trained, 00:15:00.640 --> 00:15:02.720 someone who had background, 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.640 someone who had a little bit more development 00:15:05.640 --> 00:15:10.640 in relationship than a armed security guard company. 00:15:10.640 --> 00:15:15.600 - Right. - Right? 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.520 In other words, we're looking at retired peace officers, 00:15:18.520 --> 00:15:20.640 people that retire from the Denton County Sheriff's Office, 00:15:20.640 --> 00:15:23.440 people that retire from city of Denton, city of Corinth. 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:25.520 Wherever they happen to retire from 00:15:25.520 --> 00:15:28.560 is the employee base for these people 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:31.200 so that we get a huge background of information 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.160 and work and coverage there, a higher quality. 00:15:35.160 --> 00:15:37.640 The state legislature gave us $15,000 a campus. 00:15:37.640 --> 00:15:40.960 This is gonna cost 65, right? 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:45.920 And they said this is the law, you have to do it. 00:15:45.920 --> 00:15:49.440 So, I mean, whenever we put the pencil to it, 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.360 we're about almost $4 million underfunded 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.080 to meet this statutory requirement, 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:56.840 but we don't need to do that 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.760 at the expense of not having the most highly qualified person 00:15:59.760 --> 00:16:01.760 provided the safety and security of the elementary school. 00:16:01.760 --> 00:16:03.280 So, go ahead. 00:16:03.280 --> 00:16:04.240 - Well, my original question was, 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.360 so it sounds like you answered it and that is, 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:11.360 there's not really a policy moving forward 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.760 of the DSD having their own, 00:16:13.760 --> 00:16:15.480 and I'm not talking about security officers 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.320 like they're describing here. 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.640 I mean, you know, some independent school districts 00:16:18.640 --> 00:16:20.960 have their own police departments. 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.080 - If you read the Uvalde Report, 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.520 they will tell you the biggest, 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:26.960 one of the biggest contributing factors 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.640 to the issues at Uvalde was that Uvalde had its own department. 00:16:30.640 --> 00:16:33.280 - The Uvalde Independent School District 00:16:33.280 --> 00:16:34.960 had its own department. - Had its own department. 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:36.440 - Okay. 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.200 - The JANA command, the actual piece, 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:40.840 and you know, in our city, 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.320 we've got Texas Woman's University Police Department, 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.440 University of North Texas Police Department, 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.560 City of Denver Police Department, 00:16:47.560 --> 00:16:50.400 North Central Texas College Police Department Chairs, 00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:51.720 Sheriff's Office. 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.400 There's a lot of overlap within all of that. 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:59.280 And our students are citizens of the community too, right? 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:01.160 I mean, they're all in there together. 00:17:01.160 --> 00:17:04.160 Some schools have made the decision 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:05.840 to get their own police department, 00:17:05.840 --> 00:17:08.080 and it's because they don't have great working relations 00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:09.480 with their cities like we do. 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:15.200 Most school districts in our county 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.800 that have their own police department 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:20.040 don't have the same relationship with their cities 00:17:20.040 --> 00:17:23.760 that we do to have that reciprocal piece go back and forth 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:27.160 about student resource officer in the school 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.720 help us in the community, right? 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.240 All the way through, all the way around. 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.160 So what we had to work on here 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:34.520 from the school district's perspective, 00:17:34.520 --> 00:17:36.720 and Chief and I talked a lot about this, 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.520 from a public safety perspective, 00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:41.760 Chief didn't wanna have people 00:17:41.760 --> 00:17:43.680 who weren't highly qualified in, 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:47.720 and that could be troublesome for our Dent PD officers 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.160 that show up if the thing happens. 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.200 - So then why don't you, if that's the case, 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.760 so you've answered the question as far as moving forward, 00:17:55.760 --> 00:17:58.160 that the Dent Police Department 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:02.080 will continue to provide those security services for SROs, 00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:04.680 and then DISD will reimburse the city 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:06.920 for the costs of those services 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:08.400 through the 10 months that they're providing. 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.240 So then you're saying that 65,000 on campus 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.200 provide these people and they're licensed police officers, 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:15.520 but they're not commissioned. 00:18:15.520 --> 00:18:18.800 So what is it costing then if we provide an officer? 00:18:18.800 --> 00:18:23.280 Because if we're providing an officer for 70,000, 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:26.360 and you're hiring someone, 00:18:26.360 --> 00:18:28.640 I guess what's the advantage of going this route 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.640 or going the route of having other police people 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.400 who are actually licensed police officers on the campus? 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:36.400 - I'll take a stab and let Chief take it. 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.360 You're already short officers within the department already. 00:18:40.360 --> 00:18:42.760 We're looking to grow the employee base, 00:18:42.760 --> 00:18:45.640 the resource by which we can recruit people to do. 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:46.720 - Okay. 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.920 - And it's got to do with human capital. 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:53.760 Our smaller municipalities, Lilliam, Correct, and Aubrey, 00:18:53.760 --> 00:18:56.360 they are not short officers. 00:18:56.360 --> 00:18:57.520 They have different requirements, 00:18:57.520 --> 00:18:59.840 and it's different kinds of things that play with that. 00:18:59.840 --> 00:19:03.280 So we are entering into those agreements with them, right? 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:04.120 - Okay. 00:19:04.120 --> 00:19:06.080 - And so for us at the city of Denton, 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.400 we just felt like it was important 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.200 that we not try to recruit from each other. 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.960 Like if we've got our own police department, 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:15.800 we're trying to-- 00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:18.240 - No, that issue, we put that to rest. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.840 - So then the next part of it is, 00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:23.040 how do we get the best person? 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:24.120 - Right. 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:26.480 - How does someone who's been in law enforcement 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.680 for 20 plus years possibly retire 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.440 and can go work at a school from seven to four every day 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:34.720 and be security and armed 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.440 and have 20 plus years of training in the background 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:38.840 and do the updates? 00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:41.240 Chief, do you want to take anything else? 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.120 - So the people that they're going to be hiring 00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:48.280 are not people that we would be hiring as police officers. 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:52.080 If they're retired, is that what I'm hearing? 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:55.640 - Yeah, and to continue to focus on what Dr. Wilson said, 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:59.000 quite frankly, our staffing levels have, 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:00.240 and will be for some time, 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.280 not able to fill all the specialty assignments 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:05.120 that we have until we staff out appropriately. 00:20:05.120 --> 00:20:08.720 So we balance that with the agreement, 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.120 and we've had, like Dr. Wilson said, 00:20:10.120 --> 00:20:11.560 many, many conversations about this, 00:20:11.560 --> 00:20:12.880 as well as with the board, 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:16.360 to say, look, we value the relationship, 00:20:16.360 --> 00:20:18.600 we're gonna continue what we're doing. 00:20:18.600 --> 00:20:20.720 This is a good alternative that we've all agreed on 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:21.840 that we think is effective, 00:20:21.840 --> 00:20:25.760 and I would double down on what Dr. Wilson said about, 00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:27.840 we don't want your everyday, 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:30.560 your run-of-the-mill person with a gun 00:20:30.560 --> 00:20:32.200 being in charge of safety and security. 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:33.240 That's just not-- 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:34.200 - Oh, no, I'm not saying that. 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:35.920 I'm just saying, if you're hiring somebody 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:37.880 that you're paying 65 or 70,000 for, 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:39.960 that's not going to be doing the things 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:41.040 and can't do the things 00:20:41.040 --> 00:20:43.600 that a Denton police officer can do. 00:20:43.600 --> 00:20:44.600 - Sure. 00:20:44.600 --> 00:20:45.800 - But if you're saying, 00:20:45.800 --> 00:20:47.840 so that just brings me to the point then, 00:20:47.840 --> 00:20:50.120 then that's something that the Dent City Council 00:20:50.120 --> 00:20:51.920 needs to look at in continuation 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.440 with the Independent School Board, 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.120 to say, hey, if we're short, 00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:58.840 and we wanna provide the best possible 00:20:58.840 --> 00:21:01.120 public safety measures in our schools, 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:03.680 and if we're, from a city perspective, 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.240 we can hire, and from a financial perspective 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.480 of how much has it costed, 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:08.720 well, that's something we need to look at 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:09.560 in the next budget. 00:21:09.560 --> 00:21:11.000 So I'd say, if we're short on police officers, 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.440 whether or not the schools are in the city, 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:14.440 we need to address that. 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:18.000 - Sure, if I may, as a point of clarification on that. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.120 So we've had, we're blessed, I think, 00:21:21.120 --> 00:21:23.200 that we've had council backing on hiring new officers 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.960 and adding officers to staff, so that's not an issue. 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:28.400 Keep in mind that this House bill passed very quickly, 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.840 and the implementation was not so long ago, 00:21:30.840 --> 00:21:33.880 very, very quickly, but they now shall sort of do it. 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.200 And with that comes, whenever we hire a peace officer, 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:39.360 there's a lengthy process of the application. 00:21:39.360 --> 00:21:40.920 They have to go through testing, 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:42.160 they have to go through an academy, 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:43.600 they have to go through field training, 00:21:43.600 --> 00:21:45.080 and so you're talking close to a year 00:21:45.080 --> 00:21:47.080 before that officer even comes out. 00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:49.440 So the delay on that is really significant. 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.400 Our calls for service are continuing to increase 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:54.080 as the city grows, so we have to balance that out 00:21:54.080 --> 00:21:56.040 as a whole within the city itself. 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:59.120 So I don't want any of you all to feel like 00:21:59.120 --> 00:22:01.560 there's no support felt by us, quite the opposite. 00:22:01.560 --> 00:22:03.000 - Oh, no, I don't-- - We just wanna continue 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.840 to recruit more and more people for the job. 00:22:04.840 --> 00:22:08.000 - Yeah, okay, well, and the timing is the thing 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.920 that makes the most sense to me, because in the end, 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.160 if we want that maximum protection, 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.760 I think we need to start talking about and thinking about 00:22:16.760 --> 00:22:19.960 that this is possibly a transition period 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.200 that if we need to get, you know, 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.520 unless you just think that in the elementary schools, 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:25.360 there's not that need. 00:22:25.360 --> 00:22:27.800 - Well, that's kind of, here's, 00:22:27.800 --> 00:22:29.760 if you talk to many law enforcement agencies 00:22:29.760 --> 00:22:34.760 across the state, they would quite often tell you, 00:22:34.760 --> 00:22:38.760 part of the issue with individual district police 00:22:38.760 --> 00:22:42.200 departments is you take certified commissioned 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.480 police officers that wanna work in a police department 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:45.880 into a school district police department 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:47.960 when cities are short, right? 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.480 This law went into effect September 1st, 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.160 which affected about over 1,056 school districts 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:57.240 that all had to get into some kind of compliance. 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:02.200 And so what the city of Denton Police Department 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:06.960 was mastering was making sure that whatever we did 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.840 is consistent with what we value in our community, 00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:12.120 that we had the highest quality possible. 00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:13.600 So in the event that the thing happens, 00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:16.720 we know exactly who, where, how, why, what, 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:19.040 and we have our hand on that. 00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:23.200 And it's a, there's a human capital piece, right? 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.880 There's also, and we think this is gonna work for us, 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.920 we may not be able to find the people, I don't know. 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:29.760 Right? 00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:32.160 I mean, we're gonna put it out there and see what we get. 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:35.520 We know how many applicants I got for $15,000 a year 00:23:35.520 --> 00:23:36.560 when I posted it for that. 00:23:36.560 --> 00:23:38.080 (audience laughs) 00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:38.920 Which was one. 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:39.760 - Not even minimum wage. 00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:42.840 - Which was one who, I had one applicant 00:23:42.840 --> 00:23:45.840 who couldn't pass the background check, right? 00:23:45.840 --> 00:23:49.240 So that's when you say to yourself, let's work through this. 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.520 So, you know, from a school district perspective, 00:23:52.520 --> 00:23:55.640 I fully anticipated that there would be additional 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.320 resources come forward to help us pay for this. 00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:03.120 But we're in the middle of the soon before special session. 00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:04.680 - Yeah, I appreciate the info. 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:05.520 That's it, thank you. 00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:07.080 - Let's go. 00:24:07.080 --> 00:24:08.440 - Okay, any other questions? 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:13.800 Let's go, Councilman McGee, Bernd, and then Councilman Harlan. 00:24:13.800 --> 00:24:15.120 - Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:17.600 Without restating what Councilman Watts says, 00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:19.200 I just wanna say I absolutely agree. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.080 I think that conversation needs to be had in budget time. 00:24:22.080 --> 00:24:23.480 So I'll just ask one question. 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.680 Is this what you're doing, is that gonna be consistent 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.480 with all the 18 cities that you serve? 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:30.320 - It's different. 00:24:30.320 --> 00:24:32.400 - What's it different based off of every different city? 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.680 - It's different based on very different city. 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:35.840 Depends on what they do in their city 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:39.720 as far as how their arrangements work 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:41.560 with the other school districts in their city. 00:24:41.560 --> 00:24:43.120 They're being consistent with that. 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.680 If they provide student resource officers 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.840 at elementary schools in Little Land, 00:24:45.840 --> 00:24:47.360 they're providing student resource officers 00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:49.560 at elementary schools in Midlands. 00:24:49.560 --> 00:24:52.920 But it's consistent with what their city is doing, right? 00:24:53.560 --> 00:24:54.520 Same thing with Corinth. 00:24:54.520 --> 00:24:56.960 If Corinth is providing student resource officers 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.160 at the elementary schools in Lake Dallas, 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.880 then they're gonna provide student resource officers 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:02.280 at elementary schools in Hawke. 00:25:02.280 --> 00:25:06.120 When they're smaller, it's different. 00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:08.880 There's a lot of different pieces. 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:10.040 Their calls aren't the same. 00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:11.680 Their work level's different. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:16.280 It's just different in those different municipalities. 00:25:16.280 --> 00:25:20.680 Then County Sheriff, you can't find jailers. 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:22.840 You can't find people as it is now. 00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:25.960 So our schools that are served by the sheriff's offices 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.080 will be working through school security officers 00:25:28.080 --> 00:25:31.240 and doing it, and I'll give you that part too. 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:32.680 - And if I may just finish on Mr. Mayor, 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.240 I appreciate this. 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.360 Again, I'm gonna co-assign, Mrs. Madden City Manager. 00:25:36.360 --> 00:25:38.680 I'm with Chris and I'm very interested in that conversation. 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:39.960 I would love to see what it looks like 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:41.440 if we review our budget. 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:43.440 I know we're opening up FTEs for, I believe, 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:44.920 five offices a year. 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:46.920 As we, the last joint meeting we had, 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.640 we learned that we're gonna double in size in 25 years. 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.040 I'm very interested in having that conversation 00:25:51.040 --> 00:25:54.000 to see if going forward, if five is enough, 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.600 if we need to hire at a more, open up more FTEs 00:25:56.600 --> 00:25:58.760 at a more aggressive rate from a policy standpoint. 00:25:58.760 --> 00:25:59.960 I know it's difficult to find them, 00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:03.280 but we have a job to do, so I wanna thank Councilmember Walsh 00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:05.120 for bringing that to the floor. 00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:06.160 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:07.000 - Councilmember. 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.440 - Well, I'm thinking in regards 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:16.040 to not finding your employees that you're looking for, 00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:20.160 and a lot of retired people like me. 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:23.560 Not necessarily interested in messing up 00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:24.760 our Social Security. 00:26:24.760 --> 00:26:30.880 So if we go out and add too much to their, another wage, 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.960 that's gonna offset their Social Security, 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:40.960 and they don't get that back once they make this transition. 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.320 Then again, the next year they may not be doing that, 00:26:44.320 --> 00:26:47.760 then thus they have lost their Social Security, 00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:50.400 or they're some type of pension, you know, 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.640 the windfall profit thing going on there. 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.320 So in my head, I'm just, 00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:58.800 and we can just put this on the table as well. 00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:02.560 We may want to think about hiring people at part time, 00:27:02.560 --> 00:27:08.360 and that's why that $15,000 kind of make more sense to me 00:27:08.360 --> 00:27:12.400 than a full $65,000, $70,000 for someone 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.840 that's already retired. 00:27:13.840 --> 00:27:17.760 That might be where that interest is lacking there. 00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:20.800 So if you all could go back and just kind of research that, 00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:23.480 I would assume that we would want to do that. 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.400 - Oh, whatever we have to do to get it covered, 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.720 whether it's three part-time people, 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.600 or two part-time people, or one full-time person, 00:27:30.600 --> 00:27:32.160 we don't get into the how. 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.800 - Yes, it's gonna cost. 00:27:33.800 --> 00:27:37.160 Yeah, and then, you know, 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.240 saying you're gonna go work for a school district 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:45.240 these days is not something that is a pretty thing. 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:46.400 - I disagree completely. 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.240 - I do, I do disagree with that. 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:50.080 I disagree with that. 00:27:50.080 --> 00:27:52.320 - I'm pushing back, I'm pushing back, Ms. Bird, 00:27:52.320 --> 00:27:53.160 I'm pushing back. 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.040 - I'm pushing back on that statement as well, 00:27:55.040 --> 00:27:57.040 because I know it's something that's very necessary, 00:27:57.040 --> 00:28:01.160 and I know that, you know, I enjoy my time. 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.640 But you know, just out there in the world, 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.280 how people are looking at our education system. 00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:08.600 - They love it. 00:28:08.600 --> 00:28:10.440 - They do, they love it. 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.980 But it could be, you know, sound, 00:28:12.980 --> 00:28:15.040 I don't know, it could just sound 00:28:15.040 --> 00:28:16.320 a little bit more attractive. 00:28:16.320 --> 00:28:18.040 I don't know how you all are putting that out there. 00:28:18.040 --> 00:28:21.840 I haven't seen, you know, the equipment materials 00:28:21.840 --> 00:28:22.960 or what have you. 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.320 But those are the two things that's crossing my mind 00:28:25.320 --> 00:28:26.160 right now. 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.840 I would certainly wanna do that if I wasn't doing this. 00:28:28.840 --> 00:28:31.160 I'd probably, you know, scrap one of my little, 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.600 no, I'm just kidding. 00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:34.440 But thank you all. 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:35.280 - That's good. 00:28:35.280 --> 00:28:36.100 - Thank you very much. 00:28:36.100 --> 00:28:36.940 - Councilman Harlow. 00:28:36.940 --> 00:28:37.760 - Thank you. 00:28:37.760 --> 00:28:40.920 Is there not some duplicity between an SRO and an SSO? 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.720 - There is, with one exception. 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:45.800 The school security officers 00:28:45.800 --> 00:28:47.680 are not going to enforce criminal law. 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.520 They're not gonna arrest people. 00:28:49.520 --> 00:28:50.680 They don't have arrest powers. 00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:51.520 They're not gonna need that. 00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:53.400 If something criminal happens at an elementary school, 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.760 we're calling the police department. 00:28:55.760 --> 00:28:56.880 - So will that person 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.640 patrol the grounds, the homes? 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.040 - No, they're gonna be armed or on campus 00:29:04.040 --> 00:29:05.640 for security purposes only, 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.040 not to enforce criminal laws. 00:29:07.040 --> 00:29:07.880 - I see. 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:08.720 - Okay, those are the differences. 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.640 That bifurcates the difference 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.760 between a student resource officer 00:29:12.760 --> 00:29:14.260 and a school security officer. 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.720 - Thank you. 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.540 - Thank you, Mayor. 00:29:16.540 --> 00:29:17.660 - Any other questions? 00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:22.520 Okay, I have one kind of handoff question. 00:29:22.520 --> 00:29:25.840 So in this, I fully support this. 00:29:25.840 --> 00:29:27.680 I think this is a great solution 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.600 to something that did come down the pipe really fast, 00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:35.280 but from a kind of how it's gonna be implemented. 00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:37.520 So SROs are on campus. 00:29:37.520 --> 00:29:39.360 Heaven forbid something happens 00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:42.360 that SRO is kind of the point person. 00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:43.560 Is that? 00:29:43.560 --> 00:29:44.880 And then other officers arrive, 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.200 let's say that's needed, unfortunately. 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.480 What does that look like? 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.840 Is there a handoff or does that person, 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:53.180 I just wanna understand that handoff. 00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:56.360 Obviously in the SSO scenario, 00:29:56.360 --> 00:29:58.080 that's different because we would show up 00:29:58.080 --> 00:29:59.000 in an assumed authority, 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.640 but here you have a officer that's already on site 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.440 and has the most information available. 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:06.840 How does that handoff work? 00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:10.420 - We identify that as someone who's in command. 00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:11.920 The training on our end is, 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.600 that's literally all you say over the radio 00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:15.080 is show me in command. 00:30:15.080 --> 00:30:17.500 And you are in command of inside that scene 00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:19.160 until you are either relieved of command 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.520 or the situation is over. 00:30:21.520 --> 00:30:23.680 Being relieved of command is usually a supervisor 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.440 who shows up on the scene, gets briefed, 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.520 and then assumes command. 00:30:26.520 --> 00:30:28.640 And again, it's just taking over of your radio. 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:29.660 - Got it, okay. 00:30:29.660 --> 00:30:31.220 Thank you, just wanted to understand that. 00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:32.060 Missy, go ahead. 00:30:32.060 --> 00:30:34.320 - I think it's important to note 00:30:34.320 --> 00:30:37.360 one of the key words here is collaboration 00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:40.840 between the school, the ISD and the city. 00:30:40.840 --> 00:30:42.680 This does not happen in every city. 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:44.880 In every city, they have different policing matters. 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.180 They don't work well with the school district. 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:49.000 But in this case, there's a partnership here 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.960 that's very important to us as a city, 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.600 but also very important to the school district 00:30:53.600 --> 00:30:57.160 so that the training is undertaken together 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.760 so that if there is, God forbid, an emergency, 00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:02.340 that all those individuals are trained as to what happens. 00:31:02.340 --> 00:31:04.960 And when that command is turned over, 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.520 should there be an incident, 00:31:06.520 --> 00:31:09.380 that we have all the people well prepared to deal with. 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.280 - I wanna say that because this is a lot of work 00:31:13.280 --> 00:31:15.800 between the city, particularly our police department, 00:31:15.800 --> 00:31:20.360 Frank, Chief Shoemaker, Deputy Chief Bradford, 00:31:20.360 --> 00:31:22.400 and then of course our school system, 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.140 just to get this all worked out. 00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:25.400 The proof will be in the pudding, 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:29.780 but the key word here is collaboration and partnership. 00:31:29.780 --> 00:31:34.000 On the other part, as far as from police officers, 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.960 we have been very active in making sure 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.080 that we have put officers in the queue 00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:41.600 so that we don't sit there 00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:46.320 and not have qualified, quality police officers. 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:48.160 But Chief Shoemaker is absolutely right. 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.720 It takes approximately a year to get 'em on the street. 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.360 And so we're always kind of ahead of ourselves. 00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:56.920 If you recall, we came back to council before the budget 00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.520 and asked for some positions. 00:31:58.520 --> 00:32:00.560 And then as a part of our agreement, 00:32:00.560 --> 00:32:03.360 we put in five through the budget process. 00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:06.640 I can assure you, both the school board and the council, 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.920 that we will continue to take a proactive role, 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.560 not only in our police department, 00:32:10.560 --> 00:32:14.000 but in our fire department, because emergency services, 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.640 because that is one of the most important things 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:16.580 a city can do. 00:32:16.580 --> 00:32:20.880 - The message I'd like for us to leave here with today 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.880 is we could have been in compliance with this law 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.560 with some very low-level, low-trained, 00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:35.120 low-fidelity solutions. 00:32:35.120 --> 00:32:36.680 That's not what this community values. 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.040 That's not what the school district values. 00:32:38.040 --> 00:32:40.680 It's not what Chief Shoemaker values. 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.920 That's why you see it being this intentionality 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.960 in this level, in the actual license 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.720 and TECO certification and training and all that. 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:53.520 None of that is required to be in compliance 00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:57.840 with the House, not one of those things, right? 00:32:57.840 --> 00:32:59.400 Only thing is required that you have someone 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.120 armed on campus to meet the letter of the law. 00:33:02.120 --> 00:33:03.620 We need more than that. 00:33:03.620 --> 00:33:07.200 We have a higher expectation than that. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.240 And our community expects more of us than that, 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.320 and that's why you see us trying to bridge this, 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:15.040 and we'll grow it and see how it works through. 00:33:15.040 --> 00:33:18.520 Many other schools are trying a similar approach. 00:33:18.520 --> 00:33:20.360 Some have their own departments. 00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:24.360 Some have municipalities that want to go ahead 00:33:24.360 --> 00:33:25.720 and do the full student resource officer, 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.320 'cause they don't have as much of a human capital issue. 00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:35.160 They say that until they have vacancies, right? 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:36.920 You might not have an issue now when you start asking 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:40.400 for another $4,000 of them across the state. 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.560 There's a delta. 00:33:42.560 --> 00:33:44.760 So from the trustees' perspective 00:33:44.760 --> 00:33:46.200 and the council's perspective, 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:51.720 you have leadership in the school district with Dr. Russell 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.040 and in the police department with Chief Shoemaker 00:33:54.040 --> 00:33:57.240 that are taking a high level of fidelity and implementation 00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.800 and not just check the box for compliance. 00:33:59.800 --> 00:34:04.200 It's cheaper to check the box for compliance, 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.640 but it's not the quality you're looking for. 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.080 - Correct. 00:34:08.080 --> 00:34:08.920 Council member. 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:09.760 - Thank you. 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:10.600 One quick follow-up. 00:34:10.600 --> 00:34:12.640 I don't know if this is for Frank or Chief. 00:34:12.640 --> 00:34:14.840 With the increased training, 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.480 is there gonna be any increased budgetary need on our side? 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.200 - Well, that'll be ongoing conversations that Chief and I 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:23.240 we've been having and going to continue to have, 00:34:23.240 --> 00:34:24.560 'cause in the same vein, 00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:27.200 we don't wanna have just any training out there. 00:34:27.200 --> 00:34:29.280 We're always gonna bring forth the best possible training 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.640 for all of our employees, including the assessors. 00:34:32.640 --> 00:34:35.120 - Thank you. 00:34:35.120 --> 00:34:36.200 - Frank, anything else? 00:34:36.200 --> 00:34:37.520 - One real just, sorry. 00:34:37.520 --> 00:34:38.360 I know, Mayor. 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.200 So in the elementary schools, 00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:42.520 just so I understand the difference 00:34:42.520 --> 00:34:46.080 between security and criminal law enforcement. 00:34:46.080 --> 00:34:50.360 So let's say a fight breaks out in elementary school, 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.600 either between students or a student and a teacher. 00:34:53.600 --> 00:34:58.600 So the SO is on campus. 00:34:58.600 --> 00:35:00.880 So they go and try to figure out a way 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.760 to break that up, quote unquote. 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.880 - What would be a different scenario? 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.560 I mean, what would they not be able to do 00:35:10.560 --> 00:35:12.400 that an SRO would be able to do? 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.880 I mean, if somebody needs to be detained, all right, 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.720 we've seen all that. 00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:18.600 But if something like that happens, 00:35:18.600 --> 00:35:20.880 do they have those capabilities 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.520 or is it you kinda separate people 00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:25.000 and then you call the police to come in 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.200 and then they take care of whatever further actions 00:35:28.200 --> 00:35:29.840 need to be taken in that regard? 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.720 Is that my understanding of that? 00:35:31.720 --> 00:35:32.840 - I'll go ahead. 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:34.000 We have that today. 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.240 - Yeah. - Right. 00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:36.480 - Assistant principals and principals 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.320 break those things up 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.920 and if they need to call law enforcement, they do. 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.920 - In the elementary schools, 00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:43.320 in the high schools and middle schools, 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.160 we have an officer there that can take care of it. 00:35:45.160 --> 00:35:46.960 - But the principals and teachers 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.280 and everybody else break those things up 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:49.920 and if they need to call law enforcement, they do. 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:50.760 - Fair enough, yeah. 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.040 - Right, it's just that it's off-site 00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:53.160 at the middle school and high school 00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:55.200 and they would have to call the elementary school. 00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:56.040 - Okay, gotcha. 00:35:56.040 --> 00:35:58.200 - But it's no different in our day-to-day. 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:02.000 It does give us an extra person to be there, right? 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.840 - Thank you. 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:05.640 - Anything else on that? 00:36:05.640 --> 00:36:07.960 Sure, y'all. 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.560 Okay, takes us item B. 00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:12.960 Thank y'all very much, appreciate it. 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.520 ID 231732, receive report, hold discussion, 00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:17.760 give staff direction, 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.440 regarding an update on the city 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.880 of Denton construction projects 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.320 that would impact Denton High School 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.120 and the surrounding areas. 00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:30.960 - Just don't give him the phone. 00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:37.540 (murmuring) 00:36:37.540 --> 00:36:45.160 - All right, good afternoon. 00:36:45.160 --> 00:36:47.960 I'm Trevor Green, I'm the director of Capital Projects 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:49.520 and today I'm gonna be giving an update 00:36:49.520 --> 00:36:51.920 on some of the construction projects that we have 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.080 that are in a vicinity and affecting the ISD. 00:36:55.080 --> 00:36:59.820 (murmuring) 00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.880 All right, so here we have a quick overview 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.920 of some of the projects that are directly affecting 00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.360 the new Denton High School. 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.600 So I have them color coded here. 00:37:15.600 --> 00:37:19.320 The project in the red is I grade phase six. 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.840 So of course, that goes from 380 all the way up to US 77 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.160 and also a portion of Ronnie Road right there. 00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:30.040 In the blue, Ronnie Road East. 00:37:30.040 --> 00:37:33.080 So that is a project where we're going to match 00:37:33.080 --> 00:37:38.080 the existing project or existing street width 00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:41.360 all the way from 77 to right in front 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.520 of the new elementary school site. 00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:47.600 And then in purple is the West Gate Road project 00:37:47.600 --> 00:37:50.920 that does affect West Gate, East West West Gate, 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.980 North South West Gate and then a portion of Windsor Drive. 00:37:53.980 --> 00:37:55.920 And I'll get into those a little more 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:57.360 in detail in the next slide. 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.280 So Bonnie grade phase six, like I said, 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.820 US 380 to US 77 project scope, 00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:07.360 roadway widening, pedestrian facilities, 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.120 utility installation, along with traffic signals 00:38:10.120 --> 00:38:12.240 and lighting project schedule. 00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:15.020 So current phase, we're at 100% design. 00:38:15.020 --> 00:38:18.320 We're working through the final comments from TxDOT 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.880 to be able to get this project out to bid. 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.560 This project does have a large portion of TxDOT funding. 00:38:24.560 --> 00:38:25.940 So we're having to work with them 00:38:25.940 --> 00:38:28.860 in order to get approval to bid this out. 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.520 We're looking at construction starting tentatively 00:38:31.520 --> 00:38:33.720 in quarter one of 2024, 00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:37.020 and then construction complete tentatively 00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:39.640 quarter three of 2026. 00:38:39.640 --> 00:38:42.920 So DISD coordination, of course we have that ILA 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.280 for improvements to Rodney Road. 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.400 So that portion that runs from North Bonnie, 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.200 from Bonnie grade to just in front of the new site 00:38:50.200 --> 00:38:51.680 for the elementary school. 00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:53.860 And then that's going to be in coordination 00:38:53.860 --> 00:38:56.160 with the opening of the new elementary school. 00:38:59.540 --> 00:39:00.580 Rodney Road East. 00:39:00.580 --> 00:39:04.120 So this is west of Hardaway Road to US 77. 00:39:04.120 --> 00:39:06.880 Project scope, very similar, roadway widening, 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.120 pedestrian facilities, utility relocations. 00:39:10.120 --> 00:39:12.440 And this does have a parks trail component 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.680 that will connect North parks 00:39:14.680 --> 00:39:18.600 to the new elementary school location. 00:39:18.600 --> 00:39:20.440 So project schedule, the current phase, 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.800 we haven't started design yet on this one. 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.160 The design contract is actually going to council next week. 00:39:27.160 --> 00:39:30.120 So we'll be getting started on that relatively soon. 00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:34.000 Construction start, we're looking at Q1 of 2025, 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.760 and then a construction complete in Q4 of 2025. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.480 And this does have that trail system 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.080 that's going to align with the new elementary school. 00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:48.120 West Gate Road project, including Windsor Drive. 00:39:48.120 --> 00:39:50.860 So this one's a really fun project, 00:39:50.860 --> 00:39:53.320 just because we get to talk about East West West Gate, 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.240 North South West Gate, and all the fun stuff 00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:58.360 that goes with it, but projects extent. 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.760 So Windsor Drive from West Gate Drive to I-35, 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.420 North South West Gate Drive 00:40:03.420 --> 00:40:05.760 from West Gate Drive to Windsor Drive, 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.900 and then our East West West Gate Drive 00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:10.320 from I-35 to Bronco Way. 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.400 Project scope, roadway widening, pedestrian facilities, 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:15.600 utility installation, 00:40:15.600 --> 00:40:18.300 and then some drainage installation as well. 00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:21.840 Project schedule, so we are at 60% design 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.760 and looking to tentatively start construction 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.560 in quarter four of 2024. 00:40:27.560 --> 00:40:30.040 Construction complete and tentatively 00:40:30.040 --> 00:40:32.560 for quarter four of 2026. 00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:36.620 So this will provide that connection to Bronco Way, 00:40:36.620 --> 00:40:38.680 and then once we are complete, 00:40:38.680 --> 00:40:42.840 we'll work through renaming the existing East West West Gate 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.520 to Bronco Way the entire way. 00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:47.760 So that'll be the end of the East West 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.780 North South conversations. 00:40:49.780 --> 00:40:53.240 So a couple of additional projects, 00:40:53.240 --> 00:40:56.520 these are in the vicinity of DISD, 00:40:56.520 --> 00:41:00.480 Barrel Gravity Sewer Lift Station Abandonment. 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.520 So this was, or is installation of about 4,500 feet 00:41:04.520 --> 00:41:08.080 of sewer along the rear of North South West Gate. 00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:11.920 And it's currently under construction, 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.640 has an estimated completion of quarter one of 2024. 00:41:15.640 --> 00:41:17.960 This does have minimal impacts to DISD, 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.420 but is in the vicinity. 00:41:19.420 --> 00:41:22.760 So Northwest Water Transmission Line 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.160 is an installation of approximately two miles of waterline 00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:28.240 from our Northwest Elevated Storage Tank 00:41:28.240 --> 00:41:31.120 to the Rodney Road Elevated Storage Tank. 00:41:31.120 --> 00:41:33.720 This one is also currently under construction, 00:41:33.720 --> 00:41:35.840 and it has an estimated completion date 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.880 of quarter three of 2024. 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.000 This one does have a few impacts. 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.480 We do have a road closure that's scheduled for Monday now 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.440 that we're gonna work through. 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.680 But once we get through that road closure, 00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:52.880 they, we should have minimal impacts moving forward. 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.400 - Yeah, we got Randy. 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:56.240 - We got Randy. 00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:57.080 - We got Randy. 00:41:57.080 --> 00:41:59.860 - And with that, I'll stand for any questions. 00:41:59.860 --> 00:42:03.440 - So, Trevor, I have a couple of things. 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.360 So thank you for that. 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.520 Or better said, for the school side of things, 00:42:07.520 --> 00:42:09.200 while I have you. 00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:11.640 Obviously, Rodney Road is important to me 00:42:11.640 --> 00:42:14.320 from a, just your other elementary schools 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.280 in the city of Denton, I say this regularly, 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:18.640 have neighborhoods around it by and large 00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:20.640 so they can absorb that traffic. 00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:22.560 The question is, how do y'all, 00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:25.960 what is your average kind of feel for how many cars, 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.360 how many people for school, first day of school, 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.760 that sort of thing, or major events at school? 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.680 How many cars are we anticipating? 00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:37.080 Just, I wanna make sure I track that from our end 00:42:37.080 --> 00:42:38.760 to make sure we're building that in, 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.600 we're accounting for those things. 00:42:40.600 --> 00:42:43.000 There's just, the margin for error in this area 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.680 is just so small because there are no neighborhoods 00:42:45.680 --> 00:42:46.520 to absorb it. 00:42:46.520 --> 00:42:49.220 Obviously, North Lakes absorbs some of it, 00:42:49.220 --> 00:42:51.600 but just kind of, what is that, first day, 00:42:51.600 --> 00:42:53.460 everyone brings their kid to school, 00:42:53.460 --> 00:42:56.320 two parents, two cars, what does that look like? 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:57.160 - It's hectic. 00:42:57.160 --> 00:42:58.720 - Yeah, honey, what's the number of it? 00:42:58.720 --> 00:42:59.560 (audience laughs) 00:42:59.560 --> 00:43:01.840 I get a pro seat to it. 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.680 - So, just to kind of, we try not to make, 00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:06.760 first of all, let me leave it at this. 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.480 We try not to make our long-term decisions 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.400 based on the first day of school or special events. 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:11.240 - Sure. 00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:14.180 - Because you've got less than 10 of those special events 00:43:14.180 --> 00:43:15.480 first days of year, right? 00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:20.200 But if it's 650 kids, sometimes two cars a kid, 00:43:20.200 --> 00:43:21.880 if mom and dad want to bring their kindergartner 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.880 and all that kind of thing, it's a large number, right? 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:29.840 But I think when you see the way that we handle 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.720 the traffic at Sam Houston, right? 00:43:32.720 --> 00:43:35.060 When there's neighborhoods across the street and whatnot, 00:43:35.060 --> 00:43:36.240 people walking back and forth. 00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:38.760 There'll be people walking through North Lake 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.480 to the new school as well. 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:41.520 But the first couple of days, 00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:43.440 people like to take their kids to school. 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.440 So, we just have to get through the first couple of days. 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.000 Dr. O'Baron, do you know about how many car tags 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.280 you gave out at Hawke? 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.380 - I'm thinking probably 350. 00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:57.200 - So, Hawke, which was a neighborhood school 00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:00.640 that had a lot of walkers, still had 350 cars 00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:02.120 in a residential neighborhood area, 00:44:02.120 --> 00:44:03.920 which doesn't have nearly the infrastructure 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:08.340 and runways that the need of resources is. 00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:10.680 - But it didn't have transportation either. 00:44:10.680 --> 00:44:12.680 We didn't have to provide much transportation 00:44:12.680 --> 00:44:14.440 because it was a neighborhood school. 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.320 So, to your point of it not being embedded 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.840 in the neighborhood, we will likely have more 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:21.880 that would-- - Half a dozen buses or so. 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:26.360 - Yeah, no, and I take your point that's valid, 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:31.360 but to avoid kind of pacing on those kind of 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.400 out of the norm days, but on this instance, 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.360 you'll have somebody parking on Bonnie Bray Street, right? 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.120 Like, that's tragic. 00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:42.360 But we experienced it with, we had people parking 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:43.400 on Airport Road. 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.080 I mean, firsthand, people will just throw it in park 00:44:47.080 --> 00:44:49.640 and hustle to where they need to be. 00:44:49.640 --> 00:44:52.640 And that's in that area, it can turn. 00:44:52.640 --> 00:44:54.040 - Part of it you have to think about is 00:44:54.040 --> 00:44:58.400 if we try to use university as our southern boundary 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.760 to that school's piece, you're not gonna have anybody 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.560 coming from South Bonnie Bray to North Bonnie Bray. 00:45:03.560 --> 00:45:07.540 If most everybody's coming from the west side of Westgate 00:45:07.540 --> 00:45:09.280 or the new development just north of Denton High School 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:10.640 about across the street from Bonnie Bray, 00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:13.960 you've got a east-west transportation loop. 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.400 You've got the apartments and townhomes across the street. 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.600 You keep going east on Riding Road, you get to 77. 00:45:20.600 --> 00:45:24.120 I don't think there's going to be as much loading 00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:26.400 off of Bonnie Bray as there will be online, 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.120 which is the reason why we delayed the school 00:45:28.120 --> 00:45:31.600 for a little while longer to let all that work 00:45:31.600 --> 00:45:32.720 come in together. 00:45:32.720 --> 00:45:36.160 We're building additional turns into the school site 00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:38.840 off of Bonnie Bray to allow for stacking on site. 00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:40.360 And then you've also got additional parking 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:41.200 in North Lake Park. 00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:46.200 So one of the things that will be important to communicate 00:45:46.200 --> 00:45:49.640 when the school opens is in the event of large events, 00:45:49.640 --> 00:45:50.520 first day of school parking, 00:45:50.520 --> 00:45:53.100 here's where overflow parking is, here's how you get there. 00:45:53.100 --> 00:45:55.320 So that's more administrative managerial stuff 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.520 than it is anything else. 00:45:58.520 --> 00:46:00.920 I think the loads of the traffic 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.680 and the traffic stays have been done 00:46:02.680 --> 00:46:06.400 are more than sufficient for what we have going on. 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.240 - Excellent, thank you. 00:46:07.240 --> 00:46:08.080 - Does that make sense? 00:46:08.080 --> 00:46:10.000 - Yeah, great point, I appreciate that. 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.840 - Last thing I had, and this is just kind of to equip 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:18.600 those at the school board, if those questions come up, 00:46:18.600 --> 00:46:20.600 we've already seen them some, 00:46:20.600 --> 00:46:23.800 the construction closure on Monday. 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.720 So what is the answer as to why that wasn't planned 00:46:26.720 --> 00:46:30.640 when school's not in summer, winter break, et cetera? 00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:32.800 - Sure, so one of the driving things for that 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.840 is in order to do that road work, we're having to use, 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.960 it's a bore, a jack and bore is the type of construction 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.600 where we don't have to dig it up, 00:46:40.600 --> 00:46:42.400 we just dig some bore pits on either side 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.880 and we kind of push the pipe through. 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.600 And so that subcontractor is, 00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:49.320 it's a subcontractor for the contract, 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.480 and so they're having to, we have to schedule those people. 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.960 So we missed a window earlier, 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:56.880 so in order to get them in here, 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.640 if we didn't do it now or Monday, 00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:01.220 then we're months or weeks ahead of the time. 00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:04.120 So it's really trying to find that right spot in there 00:47:04.120 --> 00:47:06.560 to where we can get the crew in here, get it knocked out 00:47:06.560 --> 00:47:09.080 in a short amount of time and then move on 00:47:09.080 --> 00:47:10.560 to the other construction. 00:47:10.560 --> 00:47:13.120 So it's really just trying that scheduling 00:47:13.120 --> 00:47:14.600 and those types of things. 00:47:14.600 --> 00:47:16.280 - And Mayor Trever and his team, 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:18.040 they've done a super job of thinking through this 00:47:18.040 --> 00:47:21.120 a little bit, I mean, people might not think about this. 00:47:21.120 --> 00:47:22.960 We got five days of construction next week, 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.440 we got a week off at Thanksgiving. 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:25.520 We come back for three weeks 00:47:25.520 --> 00:47:27.200 and we got two weeks off at winter break. 00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:28.560 So three of the next six weeks 00:47:28.560 --> 00:47:30.000 where this work might be going on, 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.080 there aren't kids in school, right? 00:47:32.080 --> 00:47:35.480 So it's not like we went October the 1st 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:36.600 all the way through Thanksgiving, 00:47:36.600 --> 00:47:38.520 had eight weeks of every day. 00:47:38.520 --> 00:47:40.200 So you've got some time in there built in. 00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:41.480 So it was at least, 00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.760 let's try to minimize the impact as best we can. 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.480 And then we talked a little bit today about, 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:49.120 you know, they'd like to kind of get started this week 00:47:49.120 --> 00:47:50.440 but we got rainy things coming up 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.680 and then we wanna make sure we over communicate 00:47:52.680 --> 00:47:54.800 this is coming, right? 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.120 'Cause people, we've kind of coached people 00:47:57.120 --> 00:47:58.440 to come in that other way. 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.480 And so we're gonna have to have some traffic mitigation 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.040 at that intersection of Ronnie and Bonnie and Bray 00:48:06.040 --> 00:48:08.520 just to kind of help keep people moving. 00:48:08.520 --> 00:48:10.040 Because a lot of people come in out of that school 00:48:10.040 --> 00:48:13.600 and they go north of 377, north of 77 out. 00:48:13.600 --> 00:48:16.000 Or they come in from that side and they go. 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.240 So it's gonna be a little bit of a learning curve. 00:48:18.240 --> 00:48:20.440 It's gonna be like the first day of school Monday. 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.440 So everybody, you're gonna be okay. 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:23.600 - Yes. - We'll get there. 00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:25.200 - That's great, I appreciate that communication. 00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:26.040 That's really good, yeah, good to know. 00:48:26.040 --> 00:48:28.000 - Well, Trevor and his team's helped us tremendously 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.440 talking through it and giving us pictures. 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.200 And here's what's gonna look like and all that. 00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:37.040 But using the Thanksgiving break and the Christmas break, 00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:38.760 that helps, right? - Got it, good. 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.440 - Nothing just won't rain during those weeks. 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.480 I'm sure we'll see, okay. 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:43.920 - Excellent, thank you. - Here's to us. 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.080 - Any other questions, Mayor Fritzell? 00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:46.920 - Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.320 Mr. Mayor, I really appreciate you bringing that up 00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:52.240 'cause I've been feeling a lot of the same comments, Ed. 00:48:52.240 --> 00:48:55.320 And so I'll just co-sign on his questions. 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.280 And I'll encourage, if you and Trevor, 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.680 if the school and Trevor have already worked out 00:49:00.680 --> 00:49:03.640 the traffic flow and the plan and the mitigation efforts, 00:49:03.640 --> 00:49:05.280 if you could get those out to the parents, 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:10.280 especially, but the public in as advance as you can, 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.560 and maybe get it to council and staff, 00:49:12.560 --> 00:49:15.680 so we can see staff, so we can spread the word as well. 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:19.600 That would be, let us all help to mitigate 00:49:19.600 --> 00:49:22.640 some of the EOT that we know we need. 00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:24.840 - Yeah, yeah. - Sounds great. 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:26.000 - Any other questions? 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.280 - Okay, very good, thank you. 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:32.240 - Let me off easy. 00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:38.640 - Takes us to item C. 00:49:38.640 --> 00:49:43.080 ID 231734, receive report, hold discussion, 00:49:43.080 --> 00:49:45.200 and give staff direction regarding an update 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:47.520 on the City of Denton summer camp program. 00:49:47.520 --> 00:49:52.760 - Nice to meet you, Director of Parks and Recreation. 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.320 This is Megan Thomas, she's our program area manager 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.200 for our Leisure Services team. 00:49:58.200 --> 00:50:00.520 Kind of continue the same theme of partnerships 00:50:00.520 --> 00:50:03.440 with DISD, we've been working a lot 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.520 on a number of projects right now. 00:50:05.520 --> 00:50:08.280 We're working with LaGrone on some little deep bike racks 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.200 that you can see around downtown. 00:50:10.200 --> 00:50:13.120 The students are fabricating those for us right now. 00:50:13.120 --> 00:50:15.080 So that's just one kind of snippet 00:50:15.080 --> 00:50:16.640 of what we've been working on 00:50:16.640 --> 00:50:19.480 with administration and students. 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:21.840 The other thing is our summer camps. 00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.360 We've had some real challenges with the growth of the city 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.120 and the growth of our summer camps, 00:50:26.120 --> 00:50:28.720 and Megan's gonna give a little update on that program. 00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:36.440 - So earlier this year, 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:40.120 City of Denton and Denton ISD partnered 00:50:40.120 --> 00:50:42.880 to expand our summer camp programs. 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.160 And what this does is provide additional school sites 00:50:46.160 --> 00:50:48.760 and transportation services for 10 weeks 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.440 of the summer program. 00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:57.480 So by adding three school sites, 00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:01.360 we were actually able to increase our service area 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.320 as well as our program capacities 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.320 for children and families here in Denton. 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.320 Enrollment increased by 73% over the 2022 year, 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.360 and it added additional amenities 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.040 such as playgrounds and the gyms. 00:51:18.040 --> 00:51:23.040 So staff were able to provide transition times easier 00:51:23.160 --> 00:51:25.640 between scheduled activities. 00:51:25.640 --> 00:51:28.520 Another benefit of having these facilities 00:51:28.520 --> 00:51:33.520 is space to serve the summer food program. 00:51:33.520 --> 00:51:36.840 We were able to increase the meals served 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.200 along with the attendance 00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:44.200 and then just to provide additional nutrition 00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:47.320 to those children. 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:49.480 One thing we did find out about the summer program 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.200 is the summer food program is it cannot operate 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:53.040 at the same time. 00:51:53.040 --> 00:51:56.200 The Denton ISD food services program is operating. 00:51:56.200 --> 00:51:58.120 It was a minimal impact to us. 00:51:58.120 --> 00:52:01.680 I think it happened maybe a week or two later in the summer. 00:52:01.680 --> 00:52:04.280 And staff were able to address that pretty quickly. 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.480 And it's just something we need to communicate 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.360 in the future. 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.080 Transportation was phenomenal. 00:52:12.080 --> 00:52:14.640 Staff were very appreciative of it. 00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:17.440 They addressed that the children, 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.080 these children see these bus drivers throughout the year. 00:52:20.080 --> 00:52:21.880 These are the same drivers that they get 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:22.720 during the school year. 00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:24.200 So they had familiar faces, 00:52:24.200 --> 00:52:26.640 especially the first couple of weeks of camp 00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:29.440 when they are learning with the counselors 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.720 and a little uncomfortable themselves. 00:52:31.720 --> 00:52:34.800 And it also provided just that opportunity 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.200 for the kids to build relationships with them. 00:52:37.200 --> 00:52:39.960 And staff felt that more than just a service, 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.440 the transportation, the drivers 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:44.280 were really an extension of our team. 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:51.600 Here in the chart, you can see that the summer camp 00:52:51.600 --> 00:52:55.240 expansion really improved our wait list numbers. 00:52:55.240 --> 00:52:59.800 We were operating previously at a double 00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.840 what we had enrolled on our wait list. 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:07.840 It dropped down from 213 to 79 on a weekly average, 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:11.720 which is huge. 00:53:11.720 --> 00:53:12.560 Let's see. 00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:16.720 But we also know Denton's still growing 00:53:16.720 --> 00:53:18.520 and it's not slowing down. 00:53:18.520 --> 00:53:23.520 So that's why we would love to continue this partnership 00:53:23.520 --> 00:53:27.000 and continue to look at future opportunities 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.480 for expansion to allow additional growth 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.080 for our summer camp program and for our community. 00:53:33.080 --> 00:53:36.160 - So what we figured is if there's 1,000 students a year, 00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:39.240 850 that are in our summer camp age bracket, 00:53:39.240 --> 00:53:41.680 there's a percentage of those students 00:53:41.680 --> 00:53:44.440 that we're currently meeting or currently serving. 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:48.440 So as the school district adds another 850 students 00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:52.680 in that age bracket, we need to grow at like four or 5% 00:53:52.680 --> 00:53:54.760 just to maintain a base service level. 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.280 That's not actually growing, 00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.040 that's just maintaining the pace. 00:53:59.040 --> 00:54:00.720 So over the past few years, 00:54:00.720 --> 00:54:02.080 we haven't maintained that pace 00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:03.920 'cause we didn't have the facilities. 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.680 It was through the partnership with DISD 00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:08.240 we were able to service those families. 00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:10.640 So we need to try to at least maintain that, 00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:12.480 if not try to get ahead of it 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.160 and actually grow the summer program. 00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:16.440 So we're making sure that they have good quality 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.360 summer activities that they can learn 00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:23.360 to be social, engaged, inter-athletic and all that. 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.680 So in fitness related activities. 00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:28.560 So we can't do that without this partnership. 00:54:28.560 --> 00:54:30.680 So we wanna continue working with the schools 00:54:30.680 --> 00:54:33.240 so we can try to capture those opportunities 00:54:33.240 --> 00:54:34.800 when the schools are shut down, 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:38.120 not under construction or repairs, try to balance that 00:54:38.120 --> 00:54:41.920 and also strategically place those schools in areas 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.840 where we're underserving the community as well. 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:48.680 So that's all we have and we'll open up for any questions. 00:54:48.680 --> 00:54:50.200 - Okay, questions for staff? 00:54:50.200 --> 00:54:55.120 - People are quiet today. 00:54:55.120 --> 00:54:56.920 (laughing) 00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:01.280 - I will ask, Gary, are we sharing or Megan, 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.280 are we sharing information with didn't I say on parents 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.800 not out those events, those sort of things? 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.640 'Cause I think that would be good if, 00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:10.760 we may already be doing that, but just curious. 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.840 - Yes, I know our Recare group does reach out 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:15.120 and share that information. 00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:18.200 They also, we are starting to put information 00:55:18.200 --> 00:55:21.720 in the peach jar flyers that go out to the elementary school. 00:55:21.720 --> 00:55:24.480 So we do have something going out later this, 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.120 at probably the end of this week to, 00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:30.880 for the December programs. 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.080 - Great, okay, thank you. 00:55:33.080 --> 00:55:34.080 Any other questions? 00:55:34.080 --> 00:55:39.200 Okay, all right, thank you very much. 00:55:39.200 --> 00:55:40.040 Appreciate that. 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.800 - That takes us to our last item. 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:57.160 Item D, ID 231735 receive a report, hold discussion, 00:55:57.160 --> 00:55:59.040 give staff direction regarding an update 00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:01.880 on the installation of public art 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.680 on city of Denton traffic signal boxes. 00:56:04.680 --> 00:56:06.920 - On that same theme that we've talked about 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.040 most of the morning and partnerships. 00:56:10.040 --> 00:56:12.640 The past three or four years, we've been pretty aggressive 00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:15.280 in ramping up our art program. 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.800 So we've instituted a number of sculptures 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.080 around the park system, around the city. 00:56:20.080 --> 00:56:21.720 And one thing that we've been working on 00:56:21.720 --> 00:56:23.680 for the past couple years is trying to beautify 00:56:23.680 --> 00:56:25.520 our transportation boxes. 00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:27.520 Every intersection has one. 00:56:27.520 --> 00:56:30.080 They're functional, obviously. 00:56:30.080 --> 00:56:33.480 But what can we do to make those a little bit more beautiful 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.720 and kind of almost hide them in plain sight in some aspects? 00:56:36.720 --> 00:56:41.160 So we applied for a grant that Omar's gonna talk about 00:56:41.160 --> 00:56:43.680 and try to continue to enhance our art 00:56:43.680 --> 00:56:46.000 and communication throughout the city. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.320 This one was focused downtown. 00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:48.440 We're gonna be expanding that, 00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:49.600 and I'll turn it over to Omar. 00:56:49.600 --> 00:56:50.440 - Thank you. 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:51.560 Good afternoon, everyone. 00:56:51.560 --> 00:56:54.800 So this program began in 2022 with a grant 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.760 from the Texas Commission on the Arts 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:02.160 that had a level of funding of $6,000, 00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:04.800 which the city matched with another $6,000 00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.480 for a total of $12,000. 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.800 So that gave us enough money to do 10 vinyl wraps 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:12.840 in our TCA-designated cultural district, 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:14.680 which is the original Denton District, 00:57:14.680 --> 00:57:17.960 which accounts for the square, the area around it, 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.080 and goes sort of all the way east to include Fredmore Park. 00:57:22.080 --> 00:57:25.440 But so under the terms of the grant, 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.680 we had to apply that funding 00:57:28.680 --> 00:57:30.920 in the original Denton District. 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.160 So what staff did was we reached out to faculty, 00:57:35.160 --> 00:57:37.480 fine arts faculty at Denton ISD, 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.800 and got with them to encourage their students 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:42.240 to create pieces of art 00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:45.240 and submit them to our Public Art Committee 00:57:45.240 --> 00:57:46.640 for consideration. 00:57:46.640 --> 00:57:50.280 And eventually Public Art Committee chose winners, 00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:53.280 and these are some of them that you're seeing here. 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.520 Actually, these are all of them. 00:57:54.520 --> 00:57:55.600 And these are the locations 00:57:55.600 --> 00:57:57.840 around the original Denton District. 00:57:57.840 --> 00:57:58.720 And if you look at the map, 00:57:58.720 --> 00:58:03.720 you see we have some areas that are not fully, 00:58:03.720 --> 00:58:05.040 aren't filled in yet, 00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:08.680 but are designated for upcoming vinyl wraps 00:58:08.680 --> 00:58:11.040 from UNT students and TWU students, 00:58:11.040 --> 00:58:13.720 and a couple will feature senior center art. 00:58:13.720 --> 00:58:15.960 And I'll sort of show you those in a second. 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.360 So just to go really quickly 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.960 through the offerings we got from the Denton ISD students, 00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:25.520 we wanted to sort of showcase 00:58:25.520 --> 00:58:28.400 the two winning entries from each campus, 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.400 because they are just really, really works of art. 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.920 And it sort of shows you the sort of level of talent 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.880 we were lucky enough to work with from Denton ISD. 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.000 So these are the two winners from Braswell High School, 00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:43.560 Nicole Velasquez and Ariel Hall. 00:58:43.560 --> 00:58:45.920 These are the two winners from Denton High School, 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:47.640 Anne-Hen and Ella McGee. 00:58:47.640 --> 00:58:53.600 The two from Geyer, Dylan Ricardella and Ireland Labasse. 00:58:53.600 --> 00:58:57.100 From Le Grome, Luis Barbosa and Ethan Jimenez. 00:58:57.100 --> 00:59:00.840 From Ryan, Andrea Hernandez and Janice Alvarez. 00:59:02.680 --> 00:59:06.160 And finally, we wanted to sort of point to the staff 00:59:06.160 --> 00:59:08.520 at the various campuses at Denton ISD, 00:59:08.520 --> 00:59:12.120 without whose help we couldn't have realized this program. 00:59:12.120 --> 00:59:14.760 So these are the fine art faculty that we worked with. 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:20.200 But then moving forward, we have some forthcoming wraps 00:59:20.200 --> 00:59:22.120 as you saw in the initial map. 00:59:22.120 --> 00:59:27.120 The two images on the top are senior center art, 00:59:27.120 --> 00:59:32.320 art from artists who worked through our senior center. 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.960 So those will be on Bell and Mingo and McKinney and Elm. 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.520 And then on the bottom of the two that are blue 00:59:38.520 --> 00:59:42.840 are by Casey Martin, who worked in our sustainability 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.560 department and is associated with UNT. 00:59:45.560 --> 00:59:49.440 And she's providing one, the one on the bottom left 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.360 is actually, I don't know if you can see this image, 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.360 but it references the 2024 eclipse. 00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:57.960 And then the other one is based on her mural 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.800 at the Pratt facility at the landfill. 01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.060 So it sort of has a sustainability theme 01:00:04.060 --> 01:00:07.040 that includes art by Denton ISD students as well, 01:00:07.040 --> 01:00:09.720 as you can see in the image, if you look closely. 01:00:09.720 --> 01:00:12.440 These are the TW wraps that will be on the TW campus 01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:13.440 forthcoming as well. 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:18.200 And then for the next year, we have about $12,000 01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:22.040 to do perhaps about 10 more wraps. 01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:24.520 But this funding is coming from our 01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:26.000 Hotel Occupancy Tax Fund. 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.720 So this allows us to sort of move beyond 01:00:27.720 --> 01:00:30.080 the original dent industry, because we're not constrained 01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:32.240 by the terms of the TCA grant. 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.800 So we're still sort of considering the theming 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.440 and location and what other community partners 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:38.400 you might wanna work with. 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:39.960 But here are some of the intersections we're thinking 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:43.420 we might choose for these upcoming wraps. 01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:47.400 All right, any questions? 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:49.240 - Okay, questions for Seth. 01:00:49.240 --> 01:00:50.480 Councilman Carlin, Councilman Johnson. 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:51.720 - Thank you. 01:00:51.720 --> 01:00:56.720 Is the material leaves resistant to vandalism, i.e. spray paint? 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.720 - Yes, we have an anti-graffiti coating on the vinyl. 01:01:00.720 --> 01:01:04.400 And in fact, we had one of the boxes tagged recently 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.440 with spray paint, and parksmen and staff 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:08.400 were able to go there and remove the dirt. 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:09.240 - Very good, thank you. 01:01:09.240 --> 01:01:10.560 - Thank you, Mayor. 01:01:10.560 --> 01:01:13.000 - We can always replace that section too if we have to, 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.760 if it's damaged by anything. 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.720 - Thank you. 01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:22.240 - As you look forward to consider other sources 01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:24.280 for these new wraps going forth, 01:01:26.120 --> 01:01:31.120 is there potentially a role for dead and working artists 01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:36.640 and as well as graduates or participants 01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:39.680 in the MFA programs at UNT and TWA? 01:01:39.680 --> 01:01:40.520 - Yes, certainly. 01:01:40.520 --> 01:01:42.080 I think we would love to work with working artists. 01:01:42.080 --> 01:01:46.000 I think if we do that, we'd want to make sure 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.540 that we're allocating a portion of the funds 01:01:48.540 --> 01:01:51.240 to provide an honorarium or some sort of support 01:01:51.240 --> 01:01:52.600 for their labor. 01:01:52.600 --> 01:01:54.000 But we have had those conversations 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.520 and it would be great to give them so much talent 01:01:56.520 --> 01:02:00.280 and then focus, showcase that and that would be great. 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.440 - We need some talent here. 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:03.260 - Yes. 01:02:03.260 --> 01:02:07.400 - Okay, any other questions? 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:08.880 Councilor Watz. 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.320 - I just want to say, I'm just blown away 01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.840 by the talent of the DISD, just their submissions. 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.640 I mean, good heavens, when you look at the pieces 01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:20.100 and the messages they're sending, 01:02:20.100 --> 01:02:21.480 it's not just about the art, 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:22.920 it's about the message behind it. 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:27.920 It just is so great to see that kind of just talent 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.760 and awareness in our students. 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:34.480 So I just wanted to do those kudos. 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.440 - Mayor Proctor. 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:41.640 - So following up from what Councilor Watz just said, 01:02:41.640 --> 01:02:43.280 we do, and Councilor Meltzer as well, 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:44.680 we do have a lot of artists. 01:02:44.680 --> 01:02:47.640 What's the lifetime for a given rap, do we think? 01:02:47.640 --> 01:02:48.680 - I think generally speaking, 01:02:48.680 --> 01:02:51.280 these vinyl raps will last about five years. 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.800 - So are we anticipating them replacing that 01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:55.960 with another piece of art in five years? 01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.320 Is that generally the process? 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.600 - Yeah, I've seen some last more than five years. 01:03:01.600 --> 01:03:03.800 In fact, some that I put up with a prior employer 01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:06.200 are still up, and they've been up for over 10 years. 01:03:06.200 --> 01:03:08.520 So it just really matters if they're shade, 01:03:08.520 --> 01:03:12.560 direct sunlight, 24/7, it could impact that. 01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:14.240 But our intention is to replace them, 01:03:14.240 --> 01:03:17.680 whether it's with a new piece or with that same art. 01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:20.040 - Thank you. 01:03:21.040 --> 01:03:22.160 Any other questions? 01:03:22.160 --> 01:03:29.520 Okay, then it's not directly in sync, 01:03:29.520 --> 01:03:31.160 but this is the only time I have. 01:03:31.160 --> 01:03:34.240 So congratulations to the Parks Department, 01:03:34.240 --> 01:03:37.400 Tech Stop grant, almost $11 million, right? 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.960 Yeah, yeah, so we're doing great things there. 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.360 And so I appreciate the collaboration 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.840 with the school district and all you're doing, 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.800 and continually thinking creatively, 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.120 and kind of getting out in front of things. 01:03:50.120 --> 01:03:51.720 They're really good about that, 01:03:51.720 --> 01:03:55.160 and making sure we maximize every dollar we can, 01:03:55.160 --> 01:03:57.720 especially as we move forward, 01:03:57.720 --> 01:04:01.920 and I look forward to future conversations like this. 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.120 We'll talk about, obviously I know the ISD 01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:06.640 and the city's already talking about Mormon 01:04:06.640 --> 01:04:07.560 and some of those things, 01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:10.720 and look forward to these discussions are really helpful. 01:04:10.720 --> 01:04:12.720 It just helps me understand all the things 01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:14.520 that are happening in the background, 01:04:14.520 --> 01:04:16.640 and I'm grateful for those discussions. 01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:20.360 The citizens are getting benefit from those collaborative 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.720 efforts, so anything you wanna say? 01:04:23.720 --> 01:04:27.280 I just wanna say when we travel throughout the state, 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.200 and other school districts here about the relationship 01:04:30.200 --> 01:04:34.880 we have with our city, they are often amazed, 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:39.880 and a little envious, because they understand the value 01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.760 as we do, and appreciate the value. 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.440 Consistency is everything in education, 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.640 and when you have a consistent policy with your city, 01:04:48.640 --> 01:04:52.280 with your law enforcement, with your art, 01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:55.720 it enhances the community completely. 01:04:55.720 --> 01:04:58.760 So we really do appreciate this, 01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:01.440 and your continued patience, 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.200 and the joint funding helps tremendously. 01:05:05.200 --> 01:05:10.480 We're fighting for every dollar we can scrounge up, 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:12.920 since we're not getting a whole lot of state this year, 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:17.120 so again, we really appreciate this process. 01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:18.640 - Okay. 01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:21.840 The city manager, Dr. Wilson, anything? 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:25.760 - No, just a big appreciation to the partnership. 01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:27.160 I was in a meeting just two weeks ago, 01:05:27.160 --> 01:05:29.960 I led a conference with the Texas Association 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.760 of Suburban Mid-Sized Urban Schools, 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.080 and the number one question that the leaders 01:05:35.080 --> 01:05:36.760 at those school districts have was, 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.200 how do you work relationships in your cities, 01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:41.840 and municipalities when you're both going together? 01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.840 You know, when you get into all those different pieces, 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:45.960 and it's like we have this really good foundation, 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.240 because we know what's about to explode, West of I-35, 01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:53.520 and we're all gonna have to put our creativity hats on 01:05:53.520 --> 01:05:54.760 whenever that hits here, 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:56.800 and those things start coming to pass, 01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:00.320 because if they're gonna continue to move to Denton County, 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.040 it's gonna be second fastest growing county in the country. 01:06:04.040 --> 01:06:07.840 People aren't gonna bring roads, 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.560 they're not gonna bring water infrastructure, 01:06:10.560 --> 01:06:13.000 and they're not gonna bring classrooms with them. 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.160 And we all have to be mindful that 01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:20.160 there aren't any of those things that are inexpensive. 01:06:20.160 --> 01:06:21.600 And when they bring those, 01:06:21.600 --> 01:06:23.840 while the new growth may pay for some of that, 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.520 it doesn't always pay for it in the beginning. 01:06:26.520 --> 01:06:28.720 And we have to be mindful 01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:31.360 that you have an amazing place for people to live, 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.520 and when those things start to explode, 01:06:34.520 --> 01:06:37.320 and those three things aren't brought with them, 01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:40.680 we have to continue to work together to make that happen. 01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:44.200 It's significantly important. 01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:47.720 Or you end up with some of those pop-up communities 01:06:47.720 --> 01:06:48.960 like North of Houston right now 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.760 that they're having special call sessions to talk about. 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.320 It's extremely important. 01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:57.760 - Excellent, okay, thank you. 01:06:57.760 --> 01:06:59.360 Two things I did miss before we close out. 01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.840 One thing, giving credit where credit's due 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.160 from your board leadership all the way down 01:07:04.160 --> 01:07:05.840 to every teacher. 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.640 Man, I visited at least six or seven elementary schools, 01:07:09.640 --> 01:07:11.920 a couple of high schools this year. 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:13.480 We've been on a tear. 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.720 But I tell ya, it is an amazing experience. 01:07:17.720 --> 01:07:19.560 Man, it is fantastic. 01:07:19.560 --> 01:07:22.120 The work they do, the skillset they bring, 01:07:22.120 --> 01:07:26.040 the ability to educate, teach, kind of all those things. 01:07:26.040 --> 01:07:27.600 I'm blown away every time. 01:07:27.600 --> 01:07:29.920 So thank you for all y'all do. 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.520 Yeah, it is just impressive. 01:07:32.520 --> 01:07:36.400 And then in closing, if you've not driven by 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.720 the old didn't high side, man, good night, man. 01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:40.280 I don't know who came up with that plan. 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:41.120 It's pretty awesome. 01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:42.480 It's pretty weird to see a playground 01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.120 on my own high school footprint. 01:07:44.120 --> 01:07:47.160 (audience laughing) 01:07:47.160 --> 01:07:49.640 I don't remember marching by this in band practice. 01:07:49.640 --> 01:07:50.880 But it has been. 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.200 It'll look like it's always intended to be there. 01:07:53.200 --> 01:07:55.800 So whoever pulled that together 01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:59.040 and kind of made the best use of that, I'm truly grateful. 01:07:59.040 --> 01:08:00.960 - Jerome, just one quick thing about that. 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:05.840 I want to thank Joe Holland for planting a seed 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.280 when we were walking in the neighborhood one day, 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:10.520 that made a lot of sense. 01:08:10.520 --> 01:08:12.240 And it's, you know, there's a lot of purple 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:13.920 in Fulton didn't high. 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:18.600 In Calhoun, former school colors were orange. 01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.040 Well, now Calhoun's colors are purple. 01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:23.400 So very efficient with the color change. 01:08:23.400 --> 01:08:24.960 You don't have to change everything. 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:27.000 And they've changed from being the Cougars 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.320 to being the Colts. 01:08:28.320 --> 01:08:32.400 So if you have horseshoes and Broncos, 01:08:32.400 --> 01:08:35.120 they're now Colts, which are just smaller Broncos, right? 01:08:35.120 --> 01:08:36.880 - Right, and Colts grow to be Broncos. 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:38.320 - Colts grow to be Broncos. 01:08:38.320 --> 01:08:42.160 And so there's a little bit of a subtle change 01:08:42.160 --> 01:08:43.520 into growing up purple and gold. 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:44.360 - Right, yeah. 01:08:44.360 --> 01:08:46.240 - And it's pretty interesting. 01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:47.560 We just had a little discussion about it. 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.920 We worked on it, and next thing you know, 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:51.360 you're not buying a bunch of different color paint 01:08:51.360 --> 01:08:52.560 to color over what's there. 01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.240 And you can put those resources elsewhere. 01:08:54.240 --> 01:08:55.080 - Yeah. - It's good. 01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:56.080 - Yeah, no. 01:08:56.080 --> 01:08:58.760 I mean, to me it's important, again, not to belabor that point, 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.440 but man, your efficiency, 01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:04.480 we've talked about TDI and some of the folks that use, 01:09:04.480 --> 01:09:07.320 I mean, the tools you leverage to make sure 01:09:07.320 --> 01:09:09.400 our taxpayer dollars are well spent, 01:09:09.400 --> 01:09:13.360 well managed is noteworthy, and I appreciate that. 01:09:13.360 --> 01:09:14.960 - Next Tuesday night, Energy Audit. 01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:16.200 - Yeah. - All the solar things, 01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:19.600 all the geothermal, that's next Thursday, 01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.600 or next Tuesday night, next Tuesday night. 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:22.920 - Okay, well, very good. 01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:27.200 Well, at 1246, we'll conclude this joint meeting 01:09:27.200 --> 01:09:29.120 on the City Council side, Dr. O'Neill. 01:09:29.120 --> 01:09:32.080 - And I will return on the get nice site. 01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:33.640 Thank you all for being here. 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:34.480 - Thank you.