1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,160 >> Okay, it is nine o'clock and we do have a quorum. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:11,800 So our call to order the Public Utilities Board for the City of Denton on Monday, October 9th, 2023. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,160 The first item is presentations from the members of the public and I understand no one asked to speak. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,600 So then we'll go into closed session and I'll read this. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:28,840 The Public Utilities Board will now at 9.01 AM convene in a closed session to deliberate the closed meeting items set forth on the agenda, 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:36,760 which include the following IDPUB 23171, deliberations regarding certain public power utilities, 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,200 competitive matters under Texas Government Code section 551.086, 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:53,560 consultation with attorneys under Texas Government Code section 551.071. 9 00:00:53,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Okay, the Public Utilities Board now has now at 9.34 AM reconvened from the closed session and no official action was taken. 10 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,800 So the next item is the consent agenda. 11 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Does any board member wish to pull an item from A through E? 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:17,520 >> Madam, I move approval of consent agenda. 13 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,920 >> Okay, Mr. Ryback moved approval of the consent agenda. 14 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Do we have a second? 15 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 >> Second. 16 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,800 >> Mr. Taylor seconded. 17 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,160 All in favor say aye. 18 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,760 >> Aye. 19 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,320 >> Okay, next item is consider approval of the September 11th, 2023 minutes. 20 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,520 >> So move. 21 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,600 >> Second. 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,240 >> All in favor say aye. 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,320 >> Aye. 24 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:40,800 >> Carries. 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:57,280 PUB 23180, consider recommending the adoption of a contract with Techline Inc. for the purchase of insulated and multi-conductor underground distribution cables for $20 million. 26 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:09,880 >> Good morning members of the PUB, I'm Randy Key, Electrical Engineering Supervisor at DME. 27 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,800 Bringing forward a new contract for underground cable. 28 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:24,240 We went out for RFP to supply 15KV and 25KV insulated primary and secondary cable. 29 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 We had two responses to the bid. 30 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,400 It was Techline and Mena Holdings. 31 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,200 This contract is a replacement for the current contract that is expiring. 32 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,800 The last contract was for an NTE of $18 million. 33 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:48,800 This is a table of what we expect to spend. 34 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,600 This past fiscal year, we actually, we did spend $4.2 million. 35 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,480 The year before that, it was around 1.6. 36 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:07,800 We did have to bulk order a little bit this past fiscal year because -- 37 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,000 So this last year, we did spend $4.2 million. 38 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,600 The fiscal year before that, we spent around 1.6. 39 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,800 We did have to bulk order. 40 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,400 We do expect to spend around 3.6 the next five years. 41 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,000 We did put $2 million in contingency for this contract. 42 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:34,600 And we recommend moving forward with this contract with Techline for the NTE of $20 million. 43 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,400 And at this point, I'll take some questions. 44 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,600 >> I see we only had two responses out of what was 243? 45 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,800 >> Yes, ma'am. 46 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,200 >> Just the way the business is now? 47 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,200 >> Just the way it rolls. 48 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,200 >> Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. 49 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,400 >> All right. 50 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Other questions? 51 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,600 >> Yes, ma'am. 52 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,600 This organization or company, Techline, have we procured from them previously? 53 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,600 >> Yes, sir. 54 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,000 >> Okay. Have they been a good supplier? 55 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,200 >> They have. They've been great. 56 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,000 >> And I'm all in favor. 57 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Thank you. 58 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,400 All right. Do we have a motion to approve this item? 59 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,400 >> So moved. 60 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,400 >> Mr. Reddick moves. 61 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,000 And Mr. Pluck seconds. 62 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,600 All in favor say aye. 63 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,600 >> Aye. 64 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,600 >> Carries. Thank you. 65 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Management reports. 66 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,800 >> Thank you. 67 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:22,800 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,600 A few things in here. 69 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,600 We have the very done memo for a tech services contract. 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,600 We do have Alicia Main here if you have any questions on that. 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Then we also have the distributed generation manual which was taken to council a few weeks ago. 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 And the green sense incentive program manual as well. 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 And there's a TRC engineers memo which is related to DME services. 74 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,400 There's staff here to answer questions on that as well if you have any future agenda items. 75 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,400 It shows in there that what was asked back in September, 76 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,400 the final wastewater master plan is scheduled for a work session with y'all in December. 77 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,800 So December 11th. 78 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Basically all the new business action items were corrected back in September. 79 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,400 >> Okay. 80 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,800 And I have a good question. 81 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:13,000 >> So I sent an email and we were hoping to discuss this last meeting but we didn't have a quorum. 82 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:21,400 I just wanted to briefly point out in the distributed generation and green sense programs, 83 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:28,000 DME has a low threshold for requiring a PPA. 84 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,600 The maximum solar or distributed generation you can put behind the meter 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:43,400 without having a negotiated contract is 20kW which is big for a house but it's pretty small for commercial. 86 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,800 And there was some talk about, well, we don't have a rate. 87 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,600 There wouldn't necessarily be an appropriate tariff. 88 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:56,800 The green sense tariff pays a very high rate for homeowners but it doesn't apply to commercial. 89 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:05,600 So if a grocery store or warehouse or factory installed 100kW system to offset their load, 90 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,600 if they exported, we don't have a mechanism necessarily to pay them. 91 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:20,200 And I understand that and I think it might be why prudent to have a base commercial export rate added 92 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:29,000 in the future but even without an export rate allowing Kroger to put 100kW system on their roof, 93 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 they're going to use more than 100kW in load. 94 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,400 So even if they never sell a kW back onto the grid, they can't do that without having a PPA. 95 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,100 And so it would be beneficial for this demand response and demand reduction. 96 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:50,600 If it's behind the meter, DME never even sees that load and it removes that peak summer demand. 97 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:58,700 So having an interconnection capability higher than 20kW without a PPA in place, 98 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:05,300 I think would be a benefit for all rate payers in DME and for the DME system. 99 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:11,700 Now, the rate that they get paid if they export is a separate matter and usually, 100 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:18,600 you know, you don't get paid very much if you're a commercial entity exporting unscheduled power. 101 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,400 >> Do you speak to that? 102 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,700 >> Good morning, Madam Chair, Bill Sheppard, DME and PB members. 103 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:31,100 So the answer to your question is there is a mechanism and that is our DGR. 104 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:34,000 So that's our distributed generation rate. 105 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 If we don't do a PPA, that's the rate that they default to. 106 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,400 And in fact, we have 21 systems that are over 20kW. 107 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,900 Two of which have a PPA, the others do not. 108 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:48,600 So they fall under that same DGR rate that they're getting essentially full retail 109 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,700 for anything that comes back to us. 110 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:56,200 Now, it allows us the option to do a PPA and it's a very simple PPA. 111 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:03,500 It essentially just outlines what DME is willing to pay for energy that does incidentally come back to us. 112 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:12,700 So it's a way to sort of hedge our risk, so to speak, without paying a lot of money for that energy coming back. 113 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:18,200 Now, once we have the value of solar study done, which we're going to be starting this fall, 114 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,400 I think maybe we can relook at that and how that mechanism takes place. 115 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,100 But until then, at least this gives us an option to enter a PPA. 116 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:28,300 >> Because I believe our language says may. 117 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,700 May enter into a PPA, okay, not shall. 118 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:32,600 >> Correct. 119 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 >> And that's different, correct? 120 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,300 >> Yeah, and I think it's great news that we have this planned. 121 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:43,800 But if we already have a price that we, you know, a standard PPA rate, you know, 122 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,900 we could make that the commercial export tariff rate, you know. 123 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,700 So, but I think it'll be great to see the results of that study and see how we can move forward with this. 124 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:53,800 >> Sure. 125 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,500 >> Thank you. 126 00:08:54,500 --> 00:09:01,800 >> I wanted to comment, I really appreciated the work that you did in investigating this particular aspect 127 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,200 of our current DME program. 128 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,100 I thought that was outstanding. 129 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:14,100 One thing I do agree with, Mr. Taylor, about very strongly is I like the idea of raising that threshold from 20 to 100 KW. 130 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,700 I don't know if that makes sense based on what you just said. 131 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:22,200 I did not also, I also did not realize it was a shall not must on the PPA. 132 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:22,500 So I don't-- 133 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:23,700 >> It's a may not shall. 134 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:25,900 >> Or may not shall, or however you want to put it. 135 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,000 It wasn't mandatory. 136 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,400 >> But you're not allowed unless you have it. 137 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:35,600 >> Yeah, so if it's not mandatory, maybe the concern I had about that is less important. 138 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:41,400 But I also read it as that was mandatory and I agree that I thought the PPA thing was rather involved based 139 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,400 on my experience and knowledge of them in the past. 140 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:50,800 So maybe I shouldn't be that concerned about it, but I thought it was a good idea to potentially look at raising a threshold for that. 141 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 So I would like to know what you think about that. 142 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:59,200 >> Yeah, if I may, so one of the instances we have to look at is the what ifs, right? 143 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:06,400 Let's take an auto dealership for example, a used car dealership, very small office, very small load at the office. 144 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:13,300 Probably the majority of their load is lighting and they install a canopy system to protect their cars 145 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:18,400 from hail or what not and the elements and they put solar on top of that. 146 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Well, as you saw a year and a half ago, a lot of dealers went out of business. 147 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:32,200 Well, that dealer can technically go out of business from a retail standpoint, leave its meter on and that 100 kW system, 148 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:38,800 which would have been easily accomplished for a pretty large lot, would steady be pumping energy back to DME, 149 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,500 which we would be paying full retail for. 150 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:46,700 So that's the part that we're just trying to cover our bases with. 151 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:53,000 But the majority of the businesses that are putting solar out there are absorbing it internally. 152 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 So, you know, we never even see any of that energy, which is great. 153 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 That's ideal for them. 154 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,600 That's the most value for them is to offset any retail sales from us. 155 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:08,900 So, but again, we will be taking a lot of look at it when we do the value of solar. 156 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,200 >> Thank you. 157 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Then we're on to concluding items. 158 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:20,900 Does any board member wish to say something to the public or put a future agenda item on future item on the agenda? 159 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,000 >> Yes, ma'am. 160 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,400 I would like to add an item for future consideration to learn more about what plans, 161 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:33,600 if any, Garland has for the power plant, which is so closely located to our infrastructure. 162 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,400 >> Okay. 163 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:41,400 And Ray or Rob, welcome to the PUP board. 164 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Would you like to introduce yourself and Rob Rainer with Tom Fouch Realtors? 165 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:55,000 And I have, yep, turn your microphone on. 166 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:03,400 >> Rob Rainer, Tom Fouch Realtors, looking forward to just getting more information as to how this all operates. 167 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,800 And it has been a great improvement from the last time I was on the PUB. 168 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,700 And back then, we just passed for a green and blue trash can. 169 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:13,900 And that's about all we accomplished. 170 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,800 So thank you, Madam Chair. 171 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,600 >> All right. 172 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,500 Anything else? 173 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,000 Let's move into the work session. 174 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:34,100 Receive training and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 2, Article 6. 175 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:36,300 I had to remember my Roman rule. 176 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:37,200 >> 11. >> 11, 11. 177 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,600 That's not a V, that's an X. 178 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Had to go back to elementary school there for a minute. 179 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,400 And that was a long time ago. 180 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:45,600 >> All right. 181 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,700 Hello, I'm Madison Rocha. 182 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:47,800 I'm Denton City Auditor. 183 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:55,100 I'm going to give you all a brief training on the city's ethics ordinance, which you're all required to receive for the ordinance. 184 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:56,600 But I promise it'll be quick. 185 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Rob, you're aware of this, some of this at least. 186 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,700 So today we'll be covering the ethical expectations laid out by the city's ethics ordinance. 187 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:08,700 The ordinance's mandates and prohibitions are basically what it requires. 188 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:14,300 How city officials subject to the ordinance can request clarification on its application. 189 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:19,600 And a quick overview of what happens if an ethics complaint is submitted against you as a city official. 190 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:28,200 So to begin, the City of Denton's ethics ordinance was adopted in 2018 and was most recently amended this year. 191 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:35,000 This ethics code is intended to foster an environment of integrity for those that serve the City of Denton and its residents. 192 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:43,600 By ensuring that decision makers provide responsible stewardship of the city's resources and assets and providing behavioral guidelines and requirements. 193 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:49,000 The key goal of the ethics ordinance is to further the public's trust in those who govern their community. 194 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,800 More specifically, the ethics ordinance outlines six aspirational expectations. 195 00:13:53,800 --> 00:14:01,100 These expectations cannot be used as the basis of an ethics complaint, but they are intended to guide city officials in carrying out their duties. 196 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:10,000 These include conducting yourself in a manner that fosters public trust, performing your public duties with personal and organizational integrity. 197 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,500 Avoiding behavior that might call your motives into question and erode public confidence. 198 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:18,500 Placing the interests and concerns of Denton's residents above your own. 199 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:26,200 Valuing honesty, trustworthiness, diligence, objectivity, fairness, due process, efficiency and prudence. 200 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:34,800 And balancing transparency with the duty to protect personal privacy and preserve any confidential information that you have been trusted with. 201 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:44,800 While the rest of this training will focus on specific behaviors that city officials must comply with, this aspirational section is the most important of the ethics ordinance. 202 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:52,500 If you ever find yourself questioning if a specific action or inaction might be ethical, first ask yourself if it would align with these expectations. 203 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:58,800 It's important to realize that these expectations are not only focused on the way things are, but also on how they appear. 204 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,200 A city official has a position of privilege within their community that they must respect. 205 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,000 Serving your community as a city official is an honor that requires integrity and dedication. 206 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,200 In general, you can think about an ethics code as a stoplight. 207 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,800 In some instances, the code clearly prohibits a specific behavior or creates a red light. 208 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,600 However, in other areas, the code creates broader prohibitions or yellow lights. 209 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Yellow lights communicate that a city official should thoughtfully and cautiously consider if the action or inaction is ethical based on the city's expectations as they proceed. 210 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,300 Throughout the presentation, I'll be calling out which parts of the code are red lights versus yellow lights to help provide guidance. 211 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:44,100 Now that we've covered the basics of the city's ethics, ethics, ethical expectations and general guidance, I'll get into more specifics. 212 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:51,600 So the city's ethics ordinance includes three mandates and nine prohibitions that cover different actions or behaviors that city officials may take. 213 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,100 So I'll briefly cover them over the next couple of slides. 214 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:58,800 However, more detail is available in the actual ethics ordinance. 215 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:07,200 So beginning with the mandates, the ethics ordinance requires that city officials disclose certain business relationships if they are relevant to a pending matter. 216 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Specifically, if a business entity with a pending matter is owned by a city official's partner, 217 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,800 the city official must disclose this relationship to the city secretary and the city auditor. 218 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,500 That's me at least one business day before the meeting where the pending matter will be deliberated. 219 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:29,600 All disclosures will be provided to the relevant body before the deliberations. 220 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:36,600 This disclosure requirement is a yellow light in the ethics code as even though city officials are allowed to deliberate on these matters by the ethics, 221 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:44,000 per the ethics ordinance, it calls out that there may be a risk that this type of business interests may receive unfair treatment from the related city official. 222 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:49,700 In addition, it requires that city officials comply with any financial disclosures required by the Texas state law 223 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:55,200 and that city officials report any person that they know has violated the city's ethics ordinance. 224 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:03,000 These mandates are red lights and not reporting a known violation is itself considered to be a violation of the ordinance. 225 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,500 So you want to if you have questions, I can take them about this section. 226 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:09,900 I know that the business equals report is kind of complicated. 227 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:16,000 So but we can take questions if you have any here. 228 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,800 Yes, I have a question report known violations of the ethics ordinance. 229 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:29,200 So something could happen that one of us might know about but not realize it's a violation of the ethics ordinance. 230 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,500 So we obviously wouldn't report it. 231 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,100 So does that play into anything? 232 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:34,900 Is that something we should be concerned about? 233 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:36,100 Yes or no. 234 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:42,300 I think this training is intended to help you know what is and is not considered a violation of the ethics ordinance. 235 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:49,800 So I think if you have had your training and you're and then you don't report something that might have somebody else reports, 236 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,300 you can at least say I took the training. 237 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,500 I didn't realize that was a violation. 238 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:59,800 But it's intended to say if you know something's going on, you should you're required to report it per the ethics ordinance. 239 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,800 Does that answer your question? 240 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,200 Yes, thank you. 241 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,900 Anybody else on this section? 242 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:13,500 All right, cool. 243 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:13,800 All right. 244 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,200 So these are now the prohibitions and not mandates. 245 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,100 They're a little bit different. 246 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:23,400 But so for the first one, we'll begin with conflicts of interest. 247 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:30,600 Ethical best practices suggest that a city official recuse from deliberating on a pending matter if they or their relative have a personal or economic 248 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:36,300 interest in a business entity or property that is not shared with the general public. 249 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:41,900 This general guidance is a yellow light that is intended to draw attention to the risk of conflicts of interest. 250 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:45,800 However, I should note that while this is generally good guidance for city officials, 251 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,600 this general prohibition is not actually included in the ethics ordinance. 252 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,700 Instead, it has very specific prohibitions that I'll go over next. 253 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:56,500 And so these specific prohibitions are red lights. 254 00:18:56,500 --> 00:19:02,900 And so they include owning five percent or more of a business entity's voting shares or stock, 255 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:07,000 owning six hundred dollars or more of a business entity's fair market value, 256 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,700 owning six hundred dollars or more of the fair market value of real property, 257 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:15,800 receiving six hundred dollars or more in income from a business entity, 258 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,000 serving on the board of directors or as an officer of a business entity or nonprofit, 259 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:29,300 or having solicited, received or accepted an offer of employment from a business entity or person in the last 12 months. 260 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:34,500 So if you have a conflict of interest as defined on the slide with a pending matter on an agenda, 261 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:40,000 you're required to recuse yourself from the discussion and submit an affidavit of abstention to the city auditor. 262 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:46,900 That's me. A pending matter includes an application seeking approval or authorization, 263 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:56,300 a proposal to enter into a contract or a case involving the city that is or may be before a civil criminal or administrative tribunal. 264 00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:05,100 Further, it's a violation of the ordinance for a current city official to represent a person, group or entity before a city board or commission for compensation. 265 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:11,000 This prohibition also applies to former city officials for one year after termination of their official duties. 266 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,700 Similarly, formal city officials are prohibited from performing compensated work on a city contract or arrangement 267 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:25,700 that they substantially participated in the negotiation, award or administration of unless that was just limited to deliberation. 268 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:31,400 So any questions on the conflict of interest representation of other sections? 269 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:39,800 >> Excuse me. I do have one on the $600 of a business entity's fair market value. 270 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:50,700 I think that kind of makes sense of, you know, it's my -- I'm an investor in a store downtown or something like that that's got a case before a board. 271 00:20:50,700 --> 00:21:01,800 But I was wondering about general stocks. Like if I -- if you have a 401(k) invested in S&P 500 and -- 272 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,900 >> It holds target. 273 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:08,400 >> General -- yeah, target is building a something. 274 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:18,400 Is that -- does that apply or is there a threshold at which -- how many degrees of separation do you have to have for that $600 in market value? 275 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:24,300 >> Yeah, I think what you're talking about would be covered by the 5% or more of the voting shares or stocks. 276 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:27,200 So if you own 5% or more of targets -- 277 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,000 >> I guess if it has voting shares or stocks, you have to be a -- if it's something small -- 278 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,300 >> If you own voting shares -- yeah, I believe so. 279 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:41,500 >> Okay, I was just curious because thinking about that, you know, you get the occasional like large corporate thing and probably a lot of people have their 401(k)s and funds that might have it. 280 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:42,400 >> Right. 281 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:42,800 >> Okay. 282 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,100 >> Good question. 283 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,200 >> All right, I have a question. 284 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,000 I may have misunderstood, but you were going through that list of things after you read this list of things, you went through another list. 285 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,700 >> There's a lot of lists, I'm sorry. 286 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:57,500 >> That's okay. 287 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:04,900 And one of them seemed like it was saying something about 12 months after we have left the board. 288 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,500 Could you say that again? 289 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:28,000 >> Yes, so if once you're -- a former city official is somebody who has been on a board -- is no longer on a board, but was on one within the last 12 months, and you're -- during that time period, you're not allowed to represent a person, group, or entity before a city board or commission for compensation. 290 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,500 >> Oh, for compensation. 291 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,100 >> Right. 292 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:35,300 >> Okay, so you could still speak to an issue that was before a public body with the city of Denton. 293 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:35,900 >> Correct. 294 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:37,900 >> Okay, you just can't represent them as a -- 295 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:38,200 >> Right. 296 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,200 >> -- paid spokesperson. 297 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,900 >> Yes, that's correct. 298 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:44,100 >> Okay, thank you. 299 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:47,600 >> Any other questions on this section? 300 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,500 Great. 301 00:22:50,500 --> 00:23:00,300 Next, the ethics ordinance also prohibits a city official or their relative from accepting any gift that might reasonably influence a city official in discharging their duties. 302 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,900 So that's kind of the general prohibition or yellow light to kind of guide you. 303 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:15,200 And then the specifics include a city official cannot accept a single gift valued more than $50 or multiple gifts with a total value of more than $200. 304 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:24,600 In general, a gift is considered to be anything of monetary value such as cash, property, services, meals, entertainment, or travel-related expenses. 305 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:34,600 If a gift is accepted, the city official may remedy the potential violation of the ordinance by promptly donating it or reimbursing the gift giver the actual or fair market value of the gift. 306 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:44,200 And then if it is accepted, the city official should disclose the acceptance and the remedy by filing a disclosure with the city auditor. 307 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:51,800 The ordinance does allow certain exceptions to the gifts prohibition, which means that if you're under this exception, that's actually a green light. 308 00:23:51,800 --> 00:24:02,600 And that includes lawful campaign contributions, expenses related to a city official's travel to a conference or other training event that's connected to the city business, 309 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:12,100 expenses related to appearances at nonprofit or community events related to city business, complementary attendance at fundraising events or hospitality functions, 310 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:26,400 complementary or promotional copies of trade publications or clothing items or gifts that are given due to a personal, familial or professional relationship that is not really related to the city official's city duties at all. 311 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:33,700 So any items received that fall under one of those exceptions do not need to be disclosed, however, city official can choose to disclose them if they would like to. 312 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:45,300 So questions about the gifts prohibition section? OK. 313 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:53,800 Next, it is a violation of the ordinance for a city official to misuse the influence or information gained due to their official city position. 314 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:06,900 So specifically, a city official may not use their influence to secure special privileges or treatment for a person, group or business organization beyond what's normally available or to imply that they can do such things. 315 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:20,200 While this is a specific prohibition, it's a yellow light as it's not meant to prohibit a city official from providing individuals, groups or businesses with information on how city processes work so that they can more easily access normally available services. 316 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,800 So for that reason, city officials should proceed cautiously and thoughtfully when trying to help the public with specific concerns. 317 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:54,300 Specifically, city officials should be cautious when stating what they can do to ensure a concern is addressed. Further, a city official may not state or imply that they are acting as a representative of the city unless they've been authorized to do so by the city council. 318 00:25:54,300 --> 00:26:07,500 So these are red lights. There's not really an instance where misrepresenting yourself as an authorized city representative or using confidential information for private interests would be ethical. 319 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,300 Questions on this section? Yes, sir. 320 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:17,300 So on the confidential information, the last red light, is there a time frame on that? 321 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:28,600 I don't believe so. One year you are on probation, as it were, but then after that, forever and ever. 322 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,100 I believe that's how it's currently written. 323 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:39,300 Thank you. Oh, I think it might be limited to one year. 324 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,400 I'd have to go back and check, Rob. 325 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,400 You know, I've got it pulled up right now, but I don't see it. 326 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,900 I think by using the term former city official, it might define that as the 12-month period. 327 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:56,800 I'd have to go. It's complicated sometimes, what it's saying. 328 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,000 One year after termination of duties. 329 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:08,200 So I think it is one year. You're correct. 330 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Other questions on this section? Last of the prohibitions. 331 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,300 It is a violation of the ordinance for a city official to abuse the city's resources 332 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:24,000 or the power or privileges granted by their official position. 333 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,900 Specifically, a city official should not use, request, or allow the use of city resources, 334 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:34,900 such as facilities, personnel, equipment, software, or staff time for private purposes, 335 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:39,400 including political purposes, except to the extent that those are available to other residents. 336 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,700 So while this is a specific prohibition, 337 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:45,300 it's also a yellow light because it doesn't have any kind of clearly defined thresholds. 338 00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:48,800 And there are instances where a city official can ethically use city resources, 339 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,000 like renting a city facility at a publicly available price. 340 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,700 On the other hand, it is a violation of the ordinance for a city official to harass 341 00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:01,800 or discriminate against a person based on their ethnicity, race, gender, gender identity, 342 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,100 sexual orientation, marital or parental status, or religion. 343 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:10,900 It's also a violation to interfere with any city-related criminal or administrative investigation, 344 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,600 including persuading or coercing someone else to withhold their cooperation. 345 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,300 These are red lights. There's no instances where harassment, discrimination, 346 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:22,600 or interfering with an investigation is considered ethical behavior. 347 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,600 Questions about this section? All right. 348 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,700 We're almost done, I promise. 349 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,700 Now that you all have an understanding of the expectations, mandates, and prohibitions 350 00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:40,100 outlined in the ordinance, do you ever come upon a situation where you need additional guidance? 351 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,700 You have a few options. 352 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:47,200 First, if you need direction helping to find a section of the ordinance related to a particular situation 353 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,800 or an answer on how to submit a complaint or disclosures, 354 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:57,600 you can reach out to me at internalaudit@cityofdenton.com. 355 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,100 And then second, if you have an attorney, they may be able to provide you with an interpretation 356 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:07,200 of the ethics ordinance to help you decide whether to recuse yourself or not in a given situation. 357 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,700 And this is a personal attorney, not the city attorney's office. 358 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:19,000 And finally, you can also request that the Board of Ethics issue an advisory opinion, 359 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:25,800 which is intended to answer a question about compliance with the city's ethics ordinance in a particular situation. 360 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:32,500 So the biggest advantage of an advisory opinion is that a city official can use it as an affirmative defense 361 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,600 to a submitted ethics complaint if they relied upon it in good faith. 362 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,900 So basically, if you say, hey, is this a problem? 363 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:39,300 And the Board of Ethics says no. 364 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:44,100 If somebody then submits a complaint against you, you can say, they told me this wasn't a problem. 365 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,600 That's the basics. 366 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,000 To receive an advisory opinion, a city official must submit the request in writing to the city auditor, 367 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,500 including relevant details of the situation in question. 368 00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:01,100 I will then communicate that request to the Board of Ethics chair who assigns it to a panel of three Board of Ethics members 369 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:05,800 for review, and they have 38 days to issue the advisory opinion once it's received. 370 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,500 It usually takes less time than that, but that's the required timeline. 371 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:14,200 So any questions about the advisory opinion process? 372 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,100 Safe to say, when in doubt, recuse. 373 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:21,000 Yeah. 374 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Okay. 375 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,100 All right. 376 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,900 This is the last big chunk of information, sort of. 377 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:33,500 So finally, the Board of Ethics' primary function is to process ethics complaints. 378 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,700 So there are four phases of the ethics complaint process that I'll briefly run through, 379 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:40,000 just so you have a general awareness of how that works. 380 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:46,500 Additional information about the complaint process is available on the city's Board of Ethics webpage or can be requested from me. 381 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:56,300 So first, during the initiation process stage, an individual will submit an ethics complaint using the prescribed form to the city auditor. 382 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:00,900 This complaint form should be accompanied by any evidence, such as images, videos, or documentation, 383 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:07,500 that the complainant has to support their allegations and must be sworn to in front of a notary. 384 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:14,500 The city official then determines if the ethics complaint is administratively complete, but does not make any judgment on the complaint's merits. 385 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:23,700 If a complaint is accepted, a copy is forwarded to the complainant, the respondent, and the Board of Ethics chair who assigns it to a preliminary assessment panel. 386 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:32,700 During the preliminary assessment phase, a panel of three Board of Ethics members reviews the submitted ethics complaint and determines if it is actionable or baseless. 387 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:39,700 A complaint is actionable if, on its face, the behaviors alleged in the complaint would constitute a violation of the ordinance. 388 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:47,000 The panel may also recommend that a hearing be held to determine if a complaint is frivolous instead of determining if it is actionable or baseless. 389 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,900 The outcome of the preliminary assessment is communicated to the complainant and respondent by me. 390 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:56,200 And if the complaint is determined to be baseless, the process stops at this point, 391 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:03,600 though the complainant may submit a written appeal within 10 business days, which would then initiate the hearing phase. 392 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:12,700 During the hearing phase, the Board of Ethics schedules an evidentiary hearing and may request additional documentary evidence or issue subpoenas to require individuals to testify. 393 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:18,800 The complainant must attend and testify at this hearing and may also present any additional evidence that they've gathered. 394 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,100 In addition, the respondent may provide testimony and evidence for the board's consideration. 395 00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:32,500 Both the complainant and the respondent have a right to be represented by legal counsel or another advisor at the evidentiary hearing. 396 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:39,400 And based on the evidentiary hearing, the board will determine if a violation of the ordinance has occurred and may issue a sanction. 397 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:46,900 Once the board has decided on the ethics complaint, the complainant and respondent both have five business days to submit any new evidence 398 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:52,200 and request a reconsideration by submitting that request in writing to me. 399 00:32:52,200 --> 00:33:01,700 And then the Board of Ethics chair will review the reconsideration request and will unilaterally determine if a new hearing is warranted based on the new evidence. 400 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,000 So any questions about this process? 401 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,700 I have one more slide about what the sanctions actually are. 402 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,200 But that was I know this is kind of a lot of information, too. 403 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000 So. Questions about this process. 404 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,300 Hopefully, you'll never have to go through it exactly. 405 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,000 That's why you keep training us. 406 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,900 So if during an evidentiary hearing, the Board of Ethics finds that a violation of the ordinance has occurred, 407 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:31,300 they may issue one of four sanctions based on the city officials perceived intent and the seriousness of the violation. 408 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:35,900 And this decision process is generally illustrated in the matrix on the slide. 409 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:41,700 And if the board was to impose a sanction, the city official will be notified within 10 days by by me. 410 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:48,200 So these are this I don't know how to these are the potential sanctions. 411 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,000 If you have questions, you can ask them. 412 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,900 But that's the end of the training. 413 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,000 Congrats. You've done it. 414 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,400 I do have a piece of paper for you to sign. 415 00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:17,300 Commission. 416 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,700 We've got the wrong commission title on here. 417 00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:21,600 We're not planning to sign the commission. 418 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,700 Oh, shit. 419 00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:27,500 Indeed, it does. 420 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:30,100 Crossed through an initial correction. 421 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,100 Yeah. 422 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,900 What this graph is out right now. 423 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:45,300 We have initial that all the right names are on there, though. 424 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:46,800 Yeah. 425 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,800 I have to do planning and zoning also. 426 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,400 It happens. 427 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,500 We understand. 428 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:54,600 So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them. 429 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,900 But thank you for attending this training. 430 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:58,400 Thank you, Madison. 431 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,800 So and it's required annually. 432 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,000 So if you're still around next year, you'll probably see me again. 433 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:26,500 All right. 434 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,200 It is 10 0 8. 435 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,500 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 436 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,300 Go Lee. 437 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:37,000 Okay, we're adjourned.