WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.000 good morning my name is Marty Rivers I chair the economic development 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:12.840 partnership board and I will call this meeting to order at 1103 a.m. and before 00:00:12.840 --> 00:00:25.140 we get to our agenda items today I would be remiss if I didn't bring up 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:30.440 Caroline first meeting without her line I'm sorry I know she meant a lot to the 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:35.560 staff and all the people on the board and if we could have a moment of silence 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:39.480 I think that would be appropriate thank you 00:00:39.480 --> 00:00:54.160 all right on a lighter note we have a new guest here Erica Pangburn is the new 00:00:54.160 --> 00:00:58.440 president of the Chamber of Commerce and I hate that stores if I can't make that 00:00:58.440 --> 00:01:02.640 segue any better than that but I wanted to make sure everybody had a chance to 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.400 meet Erica I think you'll find out she'll be very delightful and exciting 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:15.360 we're glad to have her here so you like to say a few words again thank you for 00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:20.400 inviting me into your community I am excited to be here I am in week two of 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:27.520 my Denton world tour total immersion I just congratulations on everything that 00:01:27.520 --> 00:01:32.600 you're doing here I've been a tourist in your community since 2003 and watching 00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:36.240 the exciting things you're doing and experiencing that from without having 00:01:36.240 --> 00:01:41.080 skin in the game was a different kind of fun but I really appreciate you guys 00:01:41.080 --> 00:01:46.680 welcoming me into your community and into your circle congratulations on all 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:51.000 of the intense work that you're doing and the progress that you're making here 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.880 I'm excited to be a part of it please come see us at the chamber if you need 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:58.760 anything if you want to talk about what the chamber is doing or where we're 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:03.080 going and where we're planning to go I would love to share that with you I have 00:02:03.080 --> 00:02:10.200 cards please contact me anytime thanks Erica all right our first item before we 00:02:10.200 --> 00:02:13.520 get started we're going a little bit backwards today you probably noticed on 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.860 your agenda that we do have a closed session item to talk to you because it's 00:02:16.860 --> 00:02:23.120 closed session we'll do that at the end of our agenda so we're gonna look at our 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:29.360 first item is EDP 19 - 0 1 4 to consider approval of the minutes from our 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:38.080 February 13th meeting so I'll take a motion if anybody is so inclined 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:47.400 approval as previously distributed to the board motion and a second all those 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:55.520 in favor say aye aye any opposed all right I asked earlier and I hate to keep 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:01.760 skipping staff reports we do have a long agenda on the city staff reporters or 00:03:01.760 --> 00:03:09.500 anything that that we must talk about or we need to bring up I don't want to miss 00:03:09.500 --> 00:03:12.400 anything if there's something on there but all the information is in your file 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.560 to take a look at it's really good information so hopefully everybody's had 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:22.720 a chance to look at that Adam same thing do you have anything you'd like to bring 00:03:22.720 --> 00:03:29.760 up any questions on the report anybody have any questions on any any of the 00:03:29.760 --> 00:03:36.440 reports that you thoroughly read thank you staff I know you're doing a lot of 00:03:36.440 --> 00:03:42.800 work and I hate to keep skipping that but we do have a long agenda all right our 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:47.440 first item we're going to get to talk about is to receive a report hold 00:03:47.440 --> 00:03:52.040 discussion and give staff direction on our economic development partnership 00:03:52.040 --> 00:03:57.960 business award nomination nominations and selection process that's item EDP 19 - 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:05.520 11 and looks like Michelle is up to visit with us about that thank you it's 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:12.720 deja vu all over again to quote Yogi Berra each year the economic development 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:17.920 partnership board has selected a company to recognize at the annual mayor council 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:22.880 business breakfast award and they have looked at the company's public private 00:04:22.880 --> 00:04:27.920 partnerships and very much a focus on the growth and success of the company 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:35.040 as a result of this over time the EDP board has recognized predominantly 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:41.480 larger businesses and I think most of our our stellar we're lucky that we have 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:46.560 so many wonderful businesses in Denton and a great number of them have been 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:53.060 recognized however last August the EDP board had expressed their interest in 00:04:53.060 --> 00:04:58.160 developing some criteria that would allow the board to present maybe a second 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:04.760 or an instead of type of recognition to smaller business and in looking at that 00:05:04.760 --> 00:05:09.080 we wanted to make sure that we were not replicating the efforts of the Denton 00:05:09.080 --> 00:05:12.200 Chamber of Commerce because for years the Chamber of Commerce has also 00:05:12.200 --> 00:05:17.640 provided a small business award so the difference between those would be that 00:05:17.640 --> 00:05:22.640 the typically for the chamber they look at the company having been a chamber 00:05:22.640 --> 00:05:26.800 member in good standing with greater than you know at least or greater than 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:32.320 two years of business within Denton and in good standing they look at their 00:05:32.320 --> 00:05:36.600 business history and their overall management and their work environment and 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.880 a lot of times whether they've had to overcome hardship or not as a course of 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:46.240 their business operations and how they've managed to that so that has been 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:51.920 a great deal of that focus I know this board has been very interested and always 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.800 asks what the company is going to do for the community when you've looked at 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:03.280 incentives and things along those lines and I think that the prior criteria 00:06:03.280 --> 00:06:08.520 which are included here in your backup and exhibit to these are the criteria 00:06:08.520 --> 00:06:11.600 that you've used for the larger businesses and what we've attempted to 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.120 do is to adhere to those as closely as possible but make them much more 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:19.960 flexible so that they could encompass some things that were more typical of 00:06:19.960 --> 00:06:27.440 private or in smaller companies so if you look at exhibit three these are the 00:06:27.440 --> 00:06:36.560 proposed criterion for considering smaller business and I'm sorry exhibit 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:47.440 three oh I'm sorry page 33 thank you and just ask you we will have the Mayor 00:06:47.440 --> 00:06:51.640 Council business breakfast award either the first or second week of September 00:06:51.640 --> 00:06:56.160 again and so we'll be coming back to you and asking you for nominations in June 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:02.640 for businesses that you would like to consider once again staff will put 00:07:02.640 --> 00:07:08.560 together to make the matrix for you to do comparisons within the criteria for 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.720 large and for small business if that's what you decide so that you can make a 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:20.200 determination in August July or August if he'd like to award in in September so 00:07:20.200 --> 00:07:24.200 that's kind of the time frame for this but if you take a look at exhibit three 00:07:24.200 --> 00:07:30.360 those were the the aspects that we thought would be of interest to you and 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:40.600 we just ask you for feedback on those or if those look good to you so Michelle 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:46.200 who decides whether they meet their criterion or not well within the 00:07:46.200 --> 00:07:52.880 category they the company has researched and that material is put in that matrix 00:07:52.880 --> 00:07:58.360 so anything that they have accomplished or or done goes in that matrix for you 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:04.280 to compare side-by-side it's been a big spreadsheet in the past and that's 00:08:04.280 --> 00:08:16.360 provided to you ahead of time Jill jester I didn't see a definition and 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.180 maybe I just missed it when I reviewed the packet earlier of the definition of 00:08:20.180 --> 00:08:24.880 a small business has that been established it not really and that's 00:08:24.880 --> 00:08:29.520 great it's established different ways with the small business administration a 00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:32.880 lot of times it depends on what type of business that you're in whether it's a 00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:37.860 small business or not I think that what's been the stumbling block here is 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:43.400 that the criterion for comparison previously had very much focused on the 00:08:43.400 --> 00:08:50.560 number of jobs and the investment the tax investment in the community and so 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:55.160 quite typically everyone who has been awarded in the past has had over a 00:08:55.160 --> 00:09:00.160 hundred employees and often well over a hundred employees so I would say that a 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:04.560 hundred employees and less and I know that Texas Workforce Solutions in their 00:09:04.560 --> 00:09:09.760 grant composition has one structure for companies over a hundred employees and 00:09:09.760 --> 00:09:18.560 another one for less than a hundred so really that would be up to you we're not 00:09:18.560 --> 00:09:24.480 doing either or so it really could just be a business award that's up to you 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.360 whether you want to present two awards or one you could certainly present to a 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:33.360 larger business any smaller business and then that wouldn't more specific today 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.880 is not an action item this was just an idea it was not the board coming forward 00:09:37.880 --> 00:09:41.400 and voting and saying this is what we wanted to do it was a discussion and 00:09:41.400 --> 00:09:44.880 that's still where we are today correct with some more input that was asked from 00:09:44.880 --> 00:09:52.520 the staff is that correct yes so I think this is great and of course this is 00:09:52.520 --> 00:09:56.680 something that that I brought up a while ago and I'm glad that we're having this 00:09:56.680 --> 00:10:02.880 conversation I I would like to keep it to separate awards because I think it's 00:10:02.880 --> 00:10:07.640 different criteria and I that's where I'm coming from and I think we have 00:10:07.640 --> 00:10:12.320 plenty of businesses to fill both of those categories that need to be 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:16.760 recognized okay 00:10:16.760 --> 00:10:25.920 any other comments or questions 00:10:26.680 --> 00:10:33.080 do we need to at some point then decide if we're gonna do one or two and put 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:36.640 that on if we're gonna nominate folks we need to know what the criteria 00:10:36.640 --> 00:10:43.560 difference with whether we want to as a group or not and or if we do move forward 00:10:43.560 --> 00:10:48.040 we need to have some kind of correct I think you need to officially decide 00:10:48.040 --> 00:10:52.480 whether you want to do one or two and certainly there's no reason you can't do 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.800 two I think that had been the prior discussion too and I need to have 00:10:56.800 --> 00:11:02.200 specified in here stating what constitutes a large versus a smaller 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:07.040 business something that that would then be meets criteria as a smaller business 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:14.080 so I would be looking at probably a hundred or fewer employees as being a 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:22.160 small business if if that meets with the group's approval and certainly someone 00:11:22.160 --> 00:11:27.080 has other criteria they want to use that would be something we need to vote on it 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:41.080 had to be on the future agenda yes so that we don't waste the staff's time does 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:46.880 everybody interested in moving forward with looking at a small and large 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:56.880 business or not comments I don't know that I'm against it I would say that you 00:11:56.880 --> 00:12:01.880 know I just don't want to dilute the top you know what we do is business of the 00:12:01.880 --> 00:12:06.160 year it does seem a little duplicative with the chamber doesn't give out a 00:12:06.160 --> 00:12:10.480 large a small or I mean it's only a small business award so I don't know 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:17.080 that I'm seeing a large difference between the criteria in those two these 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:23.720 are just my thoughts it is noted in our backup though that that award has to go 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:28.240 to a chamber member and so there are some businesses that aren't necessarily 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:34.400 chamber members that I think should be recognized eventually 00:12:35.400 --> 00:12:47.200 Erica so if this helps the first week of May every year is national small 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:53.040 business week so going forward in the chamber we hope to starting next year 00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:59.760 really tout that and draw attention to small businesses during that week so I 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:03.840 don't know how this works on your schedule of offering that awards but if 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.500 you were going to offer to national small business week would be a good time 00:13:07.500 --> 00:13:11.080 to celebrate all of our small businesses and offer something specifically for 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.200 them and then you could set your business of the year 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:27.880 my two cents are typically it's been larger businesses because they make a 00:13:27.880 --> 00:13:32.360 bigger impact on it's easier to make a big impact on employment numbers and 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.020 those kind of things that being said we've got plenty of businesses to 00:13:36.020 --> 00:13:38.720 recognize or a lot of them doing some good things I don't know what it would 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:44.400 hurt to have an additional business from from us do that all that does is spread 00:13:44.400 --> 00:13:52.200 good cheer and and help recognize some some folks so I'd be for that 00:13:57.800 --> 00:14:14.560 I don't know that we can I don't know that we can vote on an agenda item that 00:14:14.560 --> 00:14:17.860 wasn't on I mean to create a new small business awards is it wasn't on the 00:14:17.860 --> 00:14:24.800 agenda to vote on my name is Tony point down the chief financial officer I have 00:14:24.800 --> 00:14:29.900 stepped in in an interim to run economic development what I'm hearing is some 00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:35.480 consensus from you saying come back to the board with these two criteria and 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.320 applications we'll come back to you and it will entertain at that point we'll 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.840 make those action items and we'll have the criteria for you and you can then 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.760 debate on how you want to do that and if the if the committee doesn't want to do 00:14:46.760 --> 00:14:51.140 the small business application prefers that we do something different as Eric 00:14:51.140 --> 00:14:55.080 has suggested we can certainly discuss that at that point as well but I'm hearing 00:14:55.080 --> 00:15:03.560 a consensus I think that'd be great okay thank you thanks Michelle all right we 00:15:03.560 --> 00:15:08.760 have two recommendations from our downtown economic development task force 00:15:08.760 --> 00:15:17.760 to consider today and the first one is item 19 - 16 to hold a report give 00:15:17.760 --> 00:15:28.880 discussion on a grand amount of $10,000 for 111 Industrial Street Julie I do have 00:15:28.880 --> 00:15:34.160 with me some copies of the scoring sheet this kind of came up at the last council 00:15:34.160 --> 00:15:37.880 meeting if you would like to have these in your hands you can kind of see in a 00:15:37.880 --> 00:15:42.960 large it's on this it's on here but in a larger format kind of what the scoring 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:49.120 is that might help you these projects are reviewed with the following 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:53.840 considerations in mind these are in the grant policy that the project increases 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:59.160 property valuation or increases the sales tax we it is looked at for 00:15:59.160 --> 00:16:04.280 historical accuracy or design quality improves capacity of water waste water 00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:08.040 or electric service so we have some confusion about that what that means is 00:16:08.040 --> 00:16:12.480 you are going from a two inch water pipe to a four inch water pipe which might 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:16.400 help serve the entire area you're increasing from a phase two to a phase 00:16:16.400 --> 00:16:22.200 three transformer which might benefit the entire area improvements to health 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.960 and safety results in significant increase in downtown population that is 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.440 foot traffic day or night or both and then the other impacts could include 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.220 partners with another business like shared parking is a target business like 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:40.240 a grocery store or pharmacy and promotes the development of arts and 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:45.600 entertainment downtown so now and we have recently changed this this may be 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:51.480 the first one you're seeing with the new criteria these first few are were in the 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.200 old one the facade rehabilitation and building renovation awnings and signage 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.400 impact fee reimbursement utility upgrades which falls under what I just 00:17:00.400 --> 00:17:05.160 talked about the increases and then we added after the fire at the mini mall 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:10.720 last year we added interior and code improvements which includes as space to 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:16.000 asbestos removal lead paint removal and the addition of fire suppression systems 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:22.920 so we have discovered that's an important thing so this is the sheet 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.600 that I just handed out to you it's not very readable right here but you can see 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:33.080 it in your hands the recommendations up there you can see the score 25 to 30 is 00:17:33.080 --> 00:17:39.880 up to 25,000 20 to 24 is up to 10,000 recommendation 15 to 19 up to 5 and 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:51.120 then under 15 does not qualify so this is 111 industrial street this is the 00:17:51.120 --> 00:17:56.360 Steve's current location at 219 is East Hickory I'm sure none of you have ever 00:17:56.360 --> 00:18:01.600 been there this is a map showing that location where it is just so you get a 00:18:01.600 --> 00:18:05.000 feeling it is right there what we in the heart of what we call our entertainment 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:09.720 district and this is the this was the front it doesn't look like this right 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.000 now this was the front of seniors in motion this is the area that they're 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:17.840 going to move into this will about double their space and give them an 00:18:17.840 --> 00:18:22.920 opportunity to have a patio and a real stage area right now they have music 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.640 several nights a week but as you walk in the musicians are immediately to your 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:31.180 left and so they have noticed that some people oh there's people playing we 00:18:31.180 --> 00:18:34.680 shouldn't go in you know under so they're gonna have a real stage at another 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.960 location not by the front door they'll have a nice patio in the back as well 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:44.080 this is kind of a layout of the interior this is also in your backup if you need 00:18:44.080 --> 00:18:48.520 to see it a little closer so they're going to have a private tasting room an 00:18:48.520 --> 00:18:53.640 office humidor as well this will also give them an opportunity for their 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:58.520 cigar smokers to go out on the patio and enjoy their cigars stage will be over 00:18:58.520 --> 00:19:05.680 here and the bar is right about there so their eligible expenses are 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:12.120 improvements to the facade are 20,000 awnings are 10,000 signs 13,000 the 00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:16.680 impact fees is an estimate it's probably a low estimate of 5,000 utility upgrades 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:22.120 are 20,000 for a total of 68,000 we estimate that project is probably 00:19:22.120 --> 00:19:26.720 already above that amount the total cost is always above the amount when they 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:33.840 first turn it in they are requesting $25,000 Steve severance the owner and I'm 00:19:33.840 --> 00:19:37.640 sorry Roger I Roger Anderson I looked over there and thought it was Tim baby 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.520 from a distance so I need my glasses checked they are here to answer any 00:19:41.520 --> 00:19:48.280 questions if you have questions of them the previous review back in September 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:52.760 the downtown task force looked at this and recommended $10,000 that was a 00:19:52.760 --> 00:19:58.880 unanimous vote their average score was 24 so that score of 20 to 24 gives them 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:05.480 a recommendation of up to $10,000 so we are seeking a recommendation to pass on 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:12.420 to City Council regarding this when we changed the grant back in October we are 00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:17.360 now taking every grant to City Council and that will be going forward as 00:20:17.360 --> 00:20:22.880 well because of the TIF board being involved I will tell you right now this 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:28.840 money is still in general fund right this moment in that fund there's a 00:20:28.840 --> 00:20:33.360 hundred and eight thousand five hundred and thirteen dollars we do have five 00:20:33.360 --> 00:20:38.960 grants that are in process if all five of those grants go through at the amount 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.360 that they've been recommended that will leave that balance at thirty eight 00:20:42.360 --> 00:20:47.220 thousand five hundred and thirteen dollars including today's including today's 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:54.520 including the two today so they would you like to say anything Steve you can 00:20:54.520 --> 00:20:59.920 get up and say anything he has a question I'm sorry well yeah I'm glad 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:03.120 that you asked that I wanted to clarify if that included these two as well and 00:21:03.120 --> 00:21:08.440 so just for more clarity this is not into the TIF just yet these funds are 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.720 still from what we have left right these are still in the general fund from the 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:17.560 previous balance that we had before the council said use this fund first then 00:21:17.560 --> 00:21:21.760 once this fund is gone we will go to the hundred thousand in the TIF fund and 00:21:21.760 --> 00:21:27.840 designated especially for this purpose right and and state law is pretty pretty 00:21:27.840 --> 00:21:33.480 stringent about the TIF district and what can be done so any anything that 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.600 receives a grant out of the TIF fund has got to be located in the TIF map in the 00:21:37.600 --> 00:21:44.840 district just so you know Steve if you want to say something you'll have to 00:21:44.840 --> 00:21:50.080 come to the microphones our large studio audience can can hear what you'd like to 00:21:50.080 --> 00:22:02.960 say and thank you for allowing us to come in and speak to you I love the 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:07.600 Yogi Berra reference at the beginning one of the things that I always heard is 00:22:07.600 --> 00:22:11.360 one of the stories I heard is Yogi Berra was asked about his favorite Italian 00:22:11.360 --> 00:22:15.760 restaurant out in New York and he goes I don't know nobody goes there anymore 00:22:15.760 --> 00:22:20.720 because it's too busy and that's the way we feel you know we have as Julie had 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.880 mentioned we have people walk by the front door they look in they go my gosh 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:28.440 I can't fit in there there's no place to sit and so I'm amazed and just you know 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:32.720 two and a half years we've approached that and I'm so pleased of the support 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.040 that the city's given us and I hope that today we'll get a little extra support 00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:42.200 financially but as Julie implied we have pretty much blown through that 68,000 and 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:48.240 have a lot of fun things going on there Roger Anderson has been a big help on 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:53.840 moving the project forward TAVC has been an interesting organization to work with 00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:58.800 once again but overall you know we're moving forward our plan right now is if 00:22:58.800 --> 00:23:04.560 at all possible to get our CEO this month and get ready to move in assuming 00:23:04.560 --> 00:23:09.680 TAVC issues my dual license in May so sometime mid-may we'll get there so 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:15.320 we're really close we're really excited and look forward to making that move so 00:23:15.320 --> 00:23:23.960 any questions for me will you be doing any kind of I guess insulation for sound 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:29.640 for separating the businesses so I know there's another location just at the end 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:35.280 that does live-blog music yep are you yes we're not we're not we're not doing 00:23:35.280 --> 00:23:40.760 a whole significant build out of a sound system or repression system in there 00:23:40.760 --> 00:23:46.760 right now because we do jazz we're not bringing in rock bands we're not doing 00:23:46.760 --> 00:23:53.080 all the you know the big heavy stuff so it tends to be more acoustical and so we 00:23:53.080 --> 00:23:58.200 didn't do any type of sound evaluation to see if we would impact primarily 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:02.640 text office who you know where the sound is going to be coming from the the 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:06.560 stage is essentially on the wall with text office we have not done any sound 00:24:06.560 --> 00:24:11.560 testing to see if that would impact their business but initially based on 00:24:11.560 --> 00:24:15.000 what we experienced over in our current place I don't think it will be in a 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:24.000 dramatic impact and if it is we'll take care of that. Anybody else? Thanks Steve. 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:32.640 All right thank you. There's no more comments or questions on this item feel 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:42.440 free to make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the full request and 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:49.000 just say congrats on growing so quickly that's pretty great. 00:24:49.000 --> 00:25:09.000 Somebody like to second that? All right we have a motion and a second. Any 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:16.040 further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 00:25:16.040 --> 00:25:26.840 Step two of three. Thank you. All right our next agenda item is 19-17 and it 00:25:26.840 --> 00:25:34.120 is for a grant request on 101 West Hickory and you may know that as the 00:25:34.120 --> 00:25:40.200 former Abby Ian. So this the Steve's was originally on the March agenda so this 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.760 I'm just going to go through these slides really quickly because we just 00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:46.800 covered them so I just had two presentations because they were originally 00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:55.040 on separate agendas. So 101 West Hickory and here's the map again located right 00:25:55.040 --> 00:26:00.160 there at the corner of Hickory and Locust right across from Wells Fargo 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:06.760 Bank. So this is how it looked a couple of months ago it does not look like this 00:26:06.760 --> 00:26:10.320 right now it's got scaffolding all over it and they're busy making changes. 00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:16.480 They're also doing the facade on more fun comics so it won't match. I would 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:20.960 tell you that they're going to I guess they're covering up the tilt wall 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:25.000 building that's what we call it tilt wall aggregate stone that's on there at 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.800 this point. It's actually kind of a it's a it's on the side is more that tilt 00:26:30.800 --> 00:26:34.240 wall the front's been plastered I think but they are going to use a brick 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:38.600 veneer. They have looked at historic photos of this building from the 1940s 00:26:38.600 --> 00:26:43.760 and earlier and decided it needed some decoration on the top. There will be 00:26:43.760 --> 00:26:51.700 windows added on the side and this is kind of a side view and if this is the 00:26:51.700 --> 00:26:55.960 top is the side view the bottom is the front view which kind of separates these 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:03.360 two storefronts a little bit gives them their own distinctive look. And just 00:27:03.360 --> 00:27:08.800 another elevation here this is the backside and what used to be known as 00:27:08.800 --> 00:27:16.600 the Abbey Underground down there to the bottom left. So their 00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:23.480 eligible expenses are $144,165 for facade and $15,000 for awnings which 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:29.020 gives them an allowable expense of $159. Total cost of the project I'm sure is 00:27:29.020 --> 00:27:33.840 more than this right now too because we've discovered this is like HDTV show 00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:37.880 once you get into it you find other things. So the original total cost of the 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:42.800 project was estimated at $500,000. They're asking for $25,000. Alex Payne 00:27:42.800 --> 00:27:48.000 who is one of the partners in this is here today to answer any questions you 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.960 might have. Valentine's Day downtown task force looked at this and unanimously 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:58.720 recommended a $25,000 grant. Their average score was 27.57 which was 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:06.040 rounded to 28 and that gave them a grant recommendation up to $25,000. So again 00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:10.760 we are seeking a recommendation to City Council to move forward with this and if 00:28:10.760 --> 00:28:14.800 you have any questions we can get Alex up to answer if we need. I have a 00:28:14.800 --> 00:28:18.240 question about the two separate buildings more fun comic because I saw 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.400 that I was like what's happening I thought they were going out of business 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:26.720 and then I so we're making them look the same is it I guess it's the same owner 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:31.920 and just originally one of the elevations that was shown previously the 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.360 last one was was the original I guess construction when it was redone back in 00:28:37.360 --> 00:28:41.640 2007 but this was the old white furnitures building which was from my 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:46.240 memory enough people refer to as Cravens and so it was built in the 70s one big 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:53.360 tilt wall building it was one one storefront entry and in 2007 or six and 00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:57.000 seven I was actually part of a group that that bought it and renovated it and 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.560 can it created what appears to be two storefronts here but if you really it's 00:29:01.560 --> 00:29:07.920 really just a facade that made it look like two storefronts so you know this 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:12.120 again was an earlier project for us and we I'm not I never was real happy and 00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:15.600 thrilled with how the way it turned out that was kind of cheap looking the brick 00:29:15.600 --> 00:29:20.260 the fake brick veneer and so when we actually bought this back from Tim at 00:29:20.260 --> 00:29:24.680 the Abbey Inn and hired an architect I said I wanted to make it actually look 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:30.520 more historic historically accurate so what we're doing is is like there's 00:29:30.520 --> 00:29:34.980 other examples of buildings on other corners of the square like the caddy 00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:41.000 cornered from us at where the tattoo place is for instance and I can't 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:46.360 remember who's right next door I believe that's this yeah but I'm just I guess 00:29:46.360 --> 00:29:50.880 what I'm saying is it was an original building and it looks like one building 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.040 but there's two separate storefront entries so that's kind of what we're 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:58.480 doing in this case where it's gonna say every the same brick it'll have slightly 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:05.280 a different and it's not pink so the brick that's on more fun is what you're 00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:10.120 saying will be on the whole just be moving just continuing the same 00:30:10.120 --> 00:30:23.080 architecture across it'll have a slightly different you know look at the top of 00:30:23.080 --> 00:30:27.920 the building but it'll be the same brick we're you know again their signage will 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.280 go back up they're not going anywhere in fact what isn't represented here or part 00:30:32.280 --> 00:30:36.040 of the request is their interior modifications the tenant that signed the 00:30:36.040 --> 00:30:39.680 lease for the former Abbey is making quite a few interior renovations to the 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.040 space I'm gonna reopen it's the lion and crown pub they've got two other three 00:30:44.040 --> 00:30:52.180 other locations in DFW and then again we expanded part of the back for for more 00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:55.120 fun to give them more room in the back there are that's already done and they've 00:30:55.120 --> 00:31:01.200 they've opened that portion of the space the we felt like it needed windows and 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:06.160 cut you know cut windows in the side of the building that's done now adding you 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:11.880 know there's read the old version was was kind of a fake a fake brick and then 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:17.680 like EFIS throughout what we're going we're actually going over from here 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.440 forward with an actual thin brick it is I mean it's real bricks that are just 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:28.440 cut down real thin and so that's being applied to the existing surface kind of 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.200 hard you can peek in there if you walk by but it's really good-looking it's 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:36.200 gonna be more of a more of a maroon brownish color than than what's shown 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:41.280 here in this in this scan we're actually adding some of the some of the features 00:31:41.280 --> 00:31:45.840 that you see there are are using that EFIS product but actually along the base 00:31:45.840 --> 00:31:53.160 here I was fearful because EFIS can get kicked or punched or hit and like you'll 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.640 you'll see it you know you'll see the styrofoam and so we actually ended up 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:02.560 going and using an actual cast stone at the base of the building a lot of detail 00:32:02.560 --> 00:32:07.820 the architect we hired is that I think highly qualified in historic architecture 00:32:07.820 --> 00:32:12.680 and I met him because he did the architecture at Parker Square and in park 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.720 in Flower Mound and did the newest Midwestern State University campus 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.020 there and if you haven't been by there again very good job of it like creating 00:32:21.020 --> 00:32:29.440 new buildings that look historically accurate. So on the grant it's per 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.680 building right so are we is the the 25 that's being asked for I guess more or 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:39.120 less is going to be used in for two or which one does it apply to you it'll 00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:43.320 just apply to the one building it's one it is one building it's just an interior 00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:48.000 demising wall that separates we get this task force confused a lot to me it's 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:54.440 it's one our number you know a tax ID number it has two two physical addresses 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.580 just because it has two storefronts and that postal company gives it two 00:32:58.580 --> 00:33:05.880 different addresses 101 and 103 Hickory but it's it's one building okay I'm just 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.680 curious because there's a certain amount that each building is allowed to go up 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:17.000 to and I didn't know if it was so I could have asked for 50 take it yeah but 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:26.000 thank you for that clarification the other questions or comments when do we 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:33.080 expect the line and crown to open against my good wishes they intend to 00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:36.120 open the basement level first and I think they're gonna try and do that 00:33:36.120 --> 00:33:42.160 within probably a week or two and enter from the back but we actually think we'll 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:46.000 be out of the out of the scaffolding me down and everything be done by the end 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.680 of the month so the upstairs probably won't open to me they they've got some 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.480 more construction to do upstairs but yep the downstairs I walked through 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.000 yesterday it's actually looking really good what they did inside just FYI is I 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:04.040 always felt like with the last tenant you you might have known there was a 00:34:04.040 --> 00:34:07.580 downstairs but there was no good way to get there you either went down this 00:34:07.580 --> 00:34:11.520 fire escape or you went outside to the alley you went in and it wasn't a very 00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:16.920 inviting entrance so they've actually taken and blown out the wall where that 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.080 fire exit stair was and then proved that making it where you when you're upstairs 00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:25.280 you see downstairs and then you get downstairs you're they've opened it up 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.480 and built out of space that had never been finished and now it's much more I 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.000 guess inviting environment better lighting it doesn't feel like a dungeon 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.800 down there anymore and so but that's that's still going to be a stage area 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:41.520 it'll have like pool and darts and that kind of stuff like you might expect in a 00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:47.280 pub upstairs will still be mostly just a restaurant so are you guys reworking the 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:54.760 back wall also painting it to kind of mimic the the color of the brick and tie 00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:02.920 in and then here some remnants of the yeah there'll still be some remnants 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.520 because I can do it here so that's the this is the current and so that that was 00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:18.880 the the tilt wall panels and then so here we're adding adding some some some 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:24.880 brick and an ethos bands to just kind of break it up and give it some character 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.760 along the top and then painting some of the existing panels not adding windows 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.880 so that's actually in the kitchen but kind of giving us so much where a window 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:40.160 might be but and then the back facing facing walnut I guess is is just going to 00:35:40.160 --> 00:35:44.520 be painted and then replacing and fixing awnings the awning up front was 00:35:44.520 --> 00:35:49.880 completely rotted out so replacing the metal panel putting new roofing material 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:57.340 on it we have already replaced the roof but yeah it's exterior exterior related 00:35:57.340 --> 00:36:01.400 cost we are pushing that five hundred thousand dollar number and then interior 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.280 I don't know exactly what the tenants spending on their portion but we have 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:13.560 spent quite a bit more on that expanding the comic book store yes ma'am do you 00:36:13.560 --> 00:36:23.680 know is this a contributing building any other comments or questions anybody you 00:36:23.680 --> 00:36:34.760 like to make a motion party Tony Clark I'll make a motion to approve we have a 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:43.920 motion and the second any further discussion all those in favor say aye 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:50.800 opposed all right thank you good questions and really good projects we 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:56.680 are also fortunate enough today to have some of our planning and zoning staff 00:36:56.680 --> 00:37:03.240 here today to give us a report item number 19 - 12 and they're here to talk 00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:10.080 about the didn't development code update and draft zoning map 00:37:10.080 --> 00:37:27.640 make sure and ask about your letters make sure ask about your letters sir give me 00:37:27.640 --> 00:37:36.440 two seconds here to pull up our PowerPoint presentation yes ma'am 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:41.160 I just thought I would let the board know that in the past I've spoken and as 00:37:41.160 --> 00:37:45.120 representative of the downtown task force as chair of that for the past year 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:49.760 and a half or so of which Alex is vice chair however due to some additional 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:57.400 community commitments I have resigned and they are voting a new chairperson in 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:03.960 the next meeting just wanted to let you know we're gonna I'm gonna make a 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:08.920 request for our next economic development board meeting that we discussed the 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.800 downtown task force and the chair and how all that's gonna work going forward 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:21.240 so that may be I think Alex connect does and you did not know that so that's a 00:38:21.240 --> 00:38:27.080 future agenda agenda item but how it's gonna work so they meet is it next week 00:38:27.080 --> 00:38:31.080 yeah and I'm out of town next week I won't be there but first thing on their 00:38:31.080 --> 00:38:38.680 agenda is electing a new chairperson so there'll be someone at the home all right 00:38:38.680 --> 00:38:42.960 good morning this is a little different I've never seen this set up but it's a 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.720 little more daunting that you all are sitting at the table but my name is Ron 00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:51.880 Mingida I'm with development services a principal planner they're working on our 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:56.840 update to the Denton development code and draft zoning map which I hope you've 00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:02.080 heard about and we appreciate the opportunity to talk to you all we been 00:39:02.080 --> 00:39:05.760 working on this for some time I know I've seen some of your faces in other 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:11.600 meetings and in other events so hopefully these what you're gonna see 00:39:11.600 --> 00:39:16.480 today is not new but for those that I have not been able to speak with again 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.040 appreciate the opportunity and please let me know if you have any questions so 00:39:19.040 --> 00:39:24.280 today is really just a summary of what we're doing we're gonna go over the 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:30.120 schedule and we're pretty close to the to the end zone here we've got another 00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:34.440 couple weeks till we get to City Council we're gonna talk a little bit about some 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.680 highlights of what's being proposed as far as the update to the development 00:39:38.680 --> 00:39:42.480 code and what our next steps are and then we can have a question and answer 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:49.120 session after that so as far as the process we started this back in summer 00:39:49.120 --> 00:39:55.900 of 2017 where there were several modules modules were broken into different 00:39:55.900 --> 00:40:01.080 categories module one was the districts and uses the zoning districts and uses 00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:06.160 module two was your administration and your procedure chapter and then three 00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:12.080 were your development standards we went through that through spring of 2018 and 00:40:12.080 --> 00:40:18.400 then in spring I'm sorry winter of 2019 we consolidated that and presented a 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:23.960 revised draft of the consolidated draft and through all this out throughout this 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:29.040 process there was a number of public meetings on meeting with neighborhood 00:40:29.040 --> 00:40:34.360 groups development community we met at the chamber a number of time with the 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:43.280 DCDA group going over our proposed code so what's the path to adoption as I said 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.800 earlier we we've been working on this for some time really with the 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:56.480 consolidated draft here February of 2018 I'm sorry 2019 working through the 00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:02.800 couple of iterations we've held a number of work sessions with the Planning 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:09.000 Zoning Commission and City Council taking each chapter by chapter our hope 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:15.440 is to get to the April 10th which is today the Planning Zoning Commission and 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.360 making a presentation to them and getting their consideration or 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.440 recommendation that they will then forward to that we will forward to City 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:29.600 Council on April 23rd April 23rd is a couple weeks away from now and that is 00:41:29.600 --> 00:41:35.520 when the city is going to be considering both the draft zoning code and the draft 00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:41.680 zoning map so again I wanted to highlight that public outreach is still 00:41:41.680 --> 00:41:46.360 available although we're at the April 10th and close to the April 23rd we 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:51.000 still welcome comments we still welcome input from the public we still welcome 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:56.080 comments from this board if you have not had the opportunity to review the draft 00:41:56.080 --> 00:42:04.680 it is online in the own designated web page it's den code 2030 calm in there 00:42:04.680 --> 00:42:09.000 you'll see the draft code and as well as the draft zoning map the draft zoning 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.800 map is an interactive map where you can click on your parcel you can search your 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.600 parcel your property or properties type in your property address it'll zoom 00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:22.240 right into your parcel you click on the parcel it'll have your existing zoning 00:42:22.240 --> 00:42:28.960 what's being proposed as well as links to what is proposed as far as new uses 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.720 new standards and all of the other stuff that's that's part of the development 00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:40.200 code so the project goal is really to implement the den plan 2030 I think most 00:42:40.200 --> 00:42:44.800 of you have been involved or have heard of the den plan 2030 one of the action 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:50.760 items from that plan was to update our development code and as it relates to 00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.720 the development code also revisit our zoning map and so that's what we are 00:42:54.720 --> 00:42:58.760 currently doing and again I'm not gonna read this list here but really is just 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:04.760 to implement our den plan 2030 so what that looks like is that we have a den 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:10.100 plan 2030 with a future lane use map and it's my understanding that we are 00:43:10.100 --> 00:43:14.760 scheduling another item for this board at a later time to talk about the future 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:20.760 lane use map but that map as well as the entire develop I'm sorry the den plan 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:26.800 2030 is informing what we're proposing with the development code update and the 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.040 zoning map so you see the arrow pointing in that direction and that's 00:43:30.040 --> 00:43:39.160 where we're getting our information the den plan 2030 has a number of chapters 00:43:39.160 --> 00:43:43.240 and again just kind of restating some of the things that I've already stated that 00:43:43.240 --> 00:43:47.960 these chapters are what we are looking at when we're looking at the development 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:54.280 code from lane use to parks to mobility to housing all of which inform how we 00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.840 craft and draft this code update so economic development is a big part of 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.240 that as well the future lane use map informs you know where economic 00:44:05.240 --> 00:44:09.720 development is suitable for future development and again in an upcoming 00:44:09.720 --> 00:44:14.800 board meeting we will talk about that one in particular is the business 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.240 innovation area and the industrial center that is west of town and that's 00:44:19.240 --> 00:44:24.680 an important area and that's identified not only in the plan but also in the 00:44:24.680 --> 00:44:34.160 future lane use map as a city we want to grow compactly meaning that we want to 00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:39.400 make sure that we grow within our means grow with purpose grow our assets so 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:44.720 what we have today we want to make sure we use them grow resourcefully grow with 00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:49.040 character so any areas such as the downtown and such as any other areas that 00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:53.760 have character the areas around the universities the neighborhoods all of 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.080 which have character we want to make sure that we can continue that as well 00:44:58.080 --> 00:45:03.480 as preserve and in encourage more of those types of developments and then grow 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:09.840 with balance the future land use map is our tool we see residential in the areas 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.400 we see commercial in the areas we see industrial and we see business in other 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.680 so we want to make sure we we have a city that has balance and not just one 00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:25.080 particular land use so how have we taken that and improve our development code 00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:29.640 update so one of the things that we're working on and have been working on is 00:45:29.640 --> 00:45:34.920 making it more user-friendly using more charts using more graphics and making it 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:40.160 just easier to understand and again I encourage you to look at your if you 00:45:40.160 --> 00:45:44.080 have an opportunity to go online look at the draft code you'll see a lot of what 00:45:44.080 --> 00:45:50.200 is shown here it's more concise more clear and then that's the goal we want 00:45:50.200 --> 00:45:54.520 to make sure that as anyone that comes in and wants to develop in the city they 00:45:54.520 --> 00:46:01.240 understand the code and they can go through it without confusion we 00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:04.840 understand that there's different sorry different development standards 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.720 throughout the city we've got the the square area and I think you you guys 00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:12.720 heard a little bit about what's going on with the previous item we also have 00:46:12.720 --> 00:46:18.600 corridors the loop and brinker corridor areas that we we want to develop 00:46:18.600 --> 00:46:23.880 standards for and i-35 specifically but we also have those character areas the 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.880 the hickory and Welch and historic districts and other character areas we 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:33.840 want also develop design stands for and also the industrial area the industrial 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.840 park by the airport those are different as well so they should be treated 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:41.280 differently so we've got development standards that are tailored for those 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:48.000 particular areas again I want to just emphasize that we're trying to make it 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.840 more user-friendly we've got additional charts that make it easier to follow 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:57.680 this in particular this chart will be here list all of the different uses I'm 00:46:57.680 --> 00:47:03.720 sorry applications it identifies what's required who makes the decision is it P&Z 00:47:03.720 --> 00:47:08.220 is it City Council is it the zoning Board of Adjustment so again if anybody 00:47:08.220 --> 00:47:15.080 wants to apply for an application they understand who reviews it who makes the 00:47:15.080 --> 00:47:20.840 decision and what the process is so really really helpful and again try to 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:26.520 make this document a more user-friendly plan document okay I'm going to run 00:47:26.520 --> 00:47:32.600 through these really quickly these are the key changes to the sub chapters and 00:47:32.600 --> 00:47:36.520 I won't spend too much time on it but I just really want to share with you some 00:47:36.520 --> 00:47:43.220 of the key changes chapter one again is our general standards just discusses our 00:47:43.220 --> 00:47:47.200 nonconformities it talks about how we transition from the old code to the new 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:52.440 code talks about how it's organized in some of the enforcements that are part 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.840 of the process chapter two I already talked a little bit about the chart it 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:04.960 has procedures that speak to common procedures that every application has to 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:10.200 follow but there's also specific procedures that are also applied to 00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:15.760 specific application there is a section in this sub chapter that talks about 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:22.400 citizen participation I think that's a City Council initiative or policy that 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.800 we want to make sure that we have citizen participate in the process so 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.000 we've added this process to ensure that anybody that's wanting to know more and 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.760 want to be involved in provide input they are able to so again try to make 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:43.240 this as user-friendly as possible PDs how many of y'all have heard of PDs 00:48:43.240 --> 00:48:50.200 before I've been involved in PDs so you know in 2002 they were no longer allowed 00:48:50.200 --> 00:48:56.920 we're bringing you back so with a little bit more criteria so it's not just apply 00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.240 for a PD for whatever you want so there's going to be a criteria when you 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:04.920 are able to and that's spelled out in the code so PDs for those that don't 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:09.560 know is an ability for a property owner or developer to submit an application 00:49:09.560 --> 00:49:15.960 apply for a PD and deviate from the code but at the same time providing more 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:22.240 enhancement so it's a give-and-take ropes and ranches a PD some of the 00:49:22.240 --> 00:49:26.840 residential developments on the southeast portion of the city are PDs so 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.800 those those are what you are looking at as far as peace and those are coming 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:37.280 back as part of this PD if City Council approves this on April 23rd we're also 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.460 building in more flexibility and relief procedures to again provide the 00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:46.040 development community and business owners the opportunity to develop in a 00:49:46.040 --> 00:49:52.360 more flexible but at the same time with standards that come with it so we're not 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.440 just saying you can develop but there's going to be some flexibility in the form 00:49:56.440 --> 00:50:02.360 of allowing them to not necessarily do this but you can do this so giving them 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.840 options is what we're saying okay zoning district this is probably one of the 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:15.720 biggest chapters what we did here we currently have 23 or 24 zoning districts 00:50:15.720 --> 00:50:23.360 if you all can imagine that your dr1 dr2 our CR 1 all these zoning districts we 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:28.640 are combining those down to 14 this chart and you I apologize for the size 00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:31.280 of this but you should have a copy of this in your handout or your 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:38.720 presentation this one is a little bit updated but not not too much the middle 00:50:38.720 --> 00:50:45.800 column is the existing zoning districts the farther right is the proposed zoning 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.420 district and you see that for the majority the single-family zoning 00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:56.400 districts or residential zoning districts that is are going to transition from in 00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:02.280 our to an R so for example in our one is going to go to our one not a 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.420 significant change the design standards are not going to be significantly 00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:11.160 different the council committee that's helping with this process and Healy is 00:51:11.160 --> 00:51:17.200 part of that committee basically said keep it as low impactful to the 00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:23.480 residential districts as possible so the nr2 is going to be r2 the nr3 is going 00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:28.920 to be our three but that doesn't apply to all of the zoners we we have other 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:33.020 zoning districts that we're going to consolidate and the ones that you see 00:51:33.020 --> 00:51:36.240 there that are consolidated are the ones that have multiple zone districts that 00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:43.000 are going into a single zoning district for example the dr1 dr2 our CR 1 in our 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:48.880 CR 2 are now going to be zoned as far as this chart of this chart on our seven so 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:54.280 if if a person a property owner owns a dr1 their zoning district is going to be 00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:03.240 an r7 and but in similar with the other ones DCN and DCG will go to an MD RC our 00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:10.480 and an RC our D I'm sorry our CCD will go to an MR and so on and so forth the 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:18.040 master plan communities the existing 15 or so PDs will transition to PDs they'll 00:52:18.040 --> 00:52:24.600 just be called PDs those zoning cases that were approved by City Council that 00:52:24.600 --> 00:52:31.640 have conditions that were approved with them will be called PDs because they're 00:52:31.640 --> 00:52:34.960 treated differently because they're not going to be transitioned to a straight 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.560 zoning because they've got those conditions therefore we're calling them 00:52:38.560 --> 00:52:44.400 PDs and they'll be identified on a map as PDs and when someone clicks on it or 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.120 refers to it there'll be an ordinance number so that they can refer to the 00:52:48.120 --> 00:52:53.120 conditions that are signed to that particular property so does anybody have 00:52:53.120 --> 00:52:56.240 any questions I know I've been rambling here for a bit I want to make sure I 00:52:56.240 --> 00:53:04.360 answer anybody's questions I'm saving them up saving all of our hey I've got 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:11.480 Jim over here is gonna help me with those again graphics and charts I'm just 00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:17.280 gonna skip through this one overlay districts these these overlay districts 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:21.400 are your fry Street overlay districts these are the oak Hickory historic 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:26.600 district your West Oak historic district nothing is going to change to those the 00:53:26.600 --> 00:53:33.560 only point that I want to make here is that the razor ranch overlay district is 00:53:33.560 --> 00:53:39.520 going to be carried forward as an appendix to the development code so it's 00:53:39.520 --> 00:53:42.880 not going to go away it's just going to be an appendix to development code it's 00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:48.400 just so large in in in number of pages so we're can we're just going to move it 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:53.120 from where it should have been or it's proposed to be in four as an appendix 00:53:53.120 --> 00:53:57.200 but nothing's going to change to that overlay district it's going to remain 00:53:57.200 --> 00:54:00.640 the same as well as the other overlay districts we're just we're just putting 00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:08.080 it in a new subchapter use regulations this relates to the zoning map what that 00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:15.520 zoning is allowed is based on this use chapter this use regulation subchapter 00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:23.880 so when you flip over to the subchapter you have this table and as you can see 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:29.760 this is just one of I want to say six or seven pages starting with residential 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:36.640 it goes down to commercial it goes down to industrial and in other uses you can 00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:42.280 see that looking at the column here single family and the P stands for 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:48.080 permitted it's permitted in all of the residential zoning district is also 00:54:48.080 --> 00:54:52.200 permitted in the MN which is the mixed-use neighborhood district but you 00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:57.240 can see that if it does not have a P or an S it's not permitted in the other 00:54:57.240 --> 00:55:02.280 zoning district if you look down here the next one down town homes it's 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:08.760 permitted in the R3 R4 with a specific use permit that's what the S stands for 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:14.320 if there is a plus that means that you have to refer to a use specific standard 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:20.480 that's identified here and listed as such so this use table is similar to what we 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:26.440 have today we're updating it we're adding new uses we're deleting some that 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:32.080 are not you know used as much but really it's just again clear up and as you all 00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:36.240 know if a developer comes in and they wanted to say they want to do this use 00:55:36.240 --> 00:55:40.480 and we don't have it well we can't really approve it unless the director 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:45.600 has the ability to make it consistent with another use but if it doesn't we're 00:55:45.600 --> 00:55:50.240 we have to do code amendment so what we're doing is we're adding those uses 00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:54.120 that we've heard over the years so we're making sure that we address those and 00:55:54.120 --> 00:56:02.520 some of those are these here tiny home development I know that's something 00:56:02.520 --> 00:56:07.520 that we've heard a lot about we're adding that let's see here bourbon farm 00:56:07.520 --> 00:56:12.720 community garden you know to clarify we want to make sure we have a use 00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:17.940 identified in the table to make sure we we know where they belong in what use 00:56:17.940 --> 00:56:22.600 specific standards would be allowed short-term rental is another one that's 00:56:22.600 --> 00:56:28.760 something new so we've added that use in the chapter I think outdoor storage is 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:35.160 another one that we've added that's significant so again this is just a 00:56:35.160 --> 00:56:41.240 short list of the ones that we've added or a modified there's a laundry of other 00:56:41.240 --> 00:56:44.880 lists of uses that's part of that subchapter so I encourage you to look at 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:50.240 that and let us know what you guys think development standards this is where all 00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:54.080 the development standards are grouped into won't spend a whole lot of time on 00:56:54.080 --> 00:56:58.440 this essentially we provided more flexibility in when I say flexibility 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:06.640 more options for the community to to get to where they want to be hopefully it 00:57:06.640 --> 00:57:13.000 goes to where they're able to develop at the same time meeting the goals of the 00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:21.520 community and the plan 2030 the council recently approved a landscaping in tree 00:57:21.520 --> 00:57:26.840 or conservation ordinance recently and that is being folded in to this draft 00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:32.240 code we've also added some standards more standards that is and more options 00:57:32.240 --> 00:57:37.320 for walls and fences and then we also last year the City Council approved some 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.620 parking minimums and maximums that are being reflected into this development 00:57:41.620 --> 00:57:47.640 code update too so sub chapter 7 deals with subdivisions won't bore you about 00:57:47.640 --> 00:57:50.600 that it's more about platting subdivisions 00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:56.760 criterias and development standards one in particular part of that is the option 00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:02.560 for cluster development and this map helps illustrate what that means the goal 00:58:02.560 --> 00:58:07.840 here is to protect as much open space and environmental areas as possible so 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:13.920 we are giving the option where if you preserve this area here I believe it's 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:20.920 30% you're given the option to lower or lessen your lot size in order to 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:26.760 accomplish that conservation or preservation and develop more of a 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:31.160 subdivision so much of what you see here versus one that's here where they 00:58:31.160 --> 00:58:37.240 basically impacted the open space area that again the goal is to protect so 00:58:37.240 --> 00:58:41.200 this is just an option it's not a requirement if someone wants to develop 00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:46.760 with a cluster development they can and again that's something that this plan or 00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:52.720 this code will have available chapter 8 which is the last chapter and that is 00:58:52.720 --> 00:58:57.240 the definition section I think is one of the most important chapters in my 00:58:57.240 --> 00:59:02.680 opinion as well in that in order to make decisions we have to know what they mean 00:59:02.680 --> 00:59:08.460 what what each term means and so we're making sure that every use that you have 00:59:08.460 --> 00:59:12.680 identified or we've identified there's a definition so we know what we're talking 00:59:12.680 --> 00:59:18.040 about every term that we refer to that may not be clear we want to make sure we 00:59:18.040 --> 00:59:23.200 define and provide a definition for so that's included in this chapter sub 00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:29.440 chapter a couple more slides here now I'm done and getting ready for all those 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:35.560 questions the opportunity for input is still open we're gonna receive input 00:59:35.560 --> 00:59:41.720 until April 23rd and probably even past that so there is there is there's plans 00:59:41.720 --> 00:59:47.160 on approving or considering the development code as one item and then 00:59:47.160 --> 00:59:51.880 the zoning map as a different item but the point is we're still welcoming input 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:59.720 from the public so what happens here after adoption we'll have a period we'll 00:59:59.720 --> 01:00:04.680 have an adoption date hopefully April 23rd and we'll have an effective date 01:00:04.680 --> 01:00:11.400 and word saying is October 1st so between April 23rd and October 1st the 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:18.120 development community has an opportunity to use the old code or use the old the 01:00:18.120 --> 01:00:24.280 new code whatever that is but have to stick to one or the other it also gives 01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:28.600 us an opportunity to visit and see if there's any changes that we may have 01:00:28.600 --> 01:00:34.720 missed or any proposals that was approved that we may have to rein back a 01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:39.320 little so this gives us the opportunity to do that this document is a living 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:44.400 document it's to be updated you know again I don't know how many of you all 01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:50.440 have been part of the 2002 update back in 2002 when when they did this back then 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:54.760 but I understand that there were a lot of changes since you know then so I 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.440 anticipate that hopefully not as many but we hope that we have addressed as 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:02.320 much as we can with this version and we know that there's going to be additional 01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:08.680 updates or amendments coming forward with that that concludes my presentation 01:01:08.680 --> 01:01:13.720 I'll be happy to any answer any questions and our consultants here that 01:01:13.720 --> 01:01:17.520 have been working on this document are also present so if I can't answer that 01:01:17.520 --> 01:01:24.640 hopefully they can any questions all right anybody no questions about letters 01:01:24.640 --> 01:01:27.080 so 01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:39.840 any change in the parking per bedroom in this new development code so they the 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:46.920 parking standards was was approved back in May of 2018 and so so it was carrying 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:52.600 that forward so this has not changed anything I can tell you that is with 01:01:52.600 --> 01:01:58.800 that adoption and I can make any multifamily development has to provide a 01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:04.120 space for each bedroom over two unit over two bedrooms or more so if you're 01:02:04.120 --> 01:02:11.360 one-bedroom unit it's 1.25 bedroom spaces if you're a two-bedroom or more 01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:16.440 you have to provide a parking space for each bedroom in addition if you've got 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:22.960 ten units or more you have to provide a visitor parking of ten percent of the 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:28.740 total required parking so we're trying to address parking by making sure that 01:02:28.740 --> 01:02:33.760 these multifamily developments that have more than ten units provide not only 01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:39.280 parking for each bedroom if they're two bed two units two bedrooms per unit or 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:44.380 more and for visitor parking that does that help or I don't know where you're 01:02:44.380 --> 01:02:52.320 going with that one if that was the question you had great thank you Rana 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:58.920 you mentioned the term grow compactly and sometimes which is a great idea but 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:03.600 sometimes the code and the requirements don't quite match up with planting 01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:09.800 trees and fire codes and the more parking spaces so like sometimes you want 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:14.200 to be downtown but then you supposed to plant ten trees on a lot when a lot of 01:03:14.200 --> 01:03:18.080 urban areas you don't have that kind of thing so was that addressed right and I 01:03:18.080 --> 01:03:21.480 think that slide that showed the Taylor development standards you know for 01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:27.640 downtown for corridors and for periphery I think we we have addressed that in 01:03:27.640 --> 01:03:32.160 making sure that there are options so the options that we're talking about if 01:03:32.160 --> 01:03:35.360 you're in the downtown and you're required to provide this much of say 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.560 screening or landscaping well there are other options that you can do to meet 01:03:38.560 --> 01:03:43.160 that requirement tailored to your site 01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:58.120 well and I was trash fire truck access all those kind of things that you don't 01:03:58.120 --> 01:04:01.360 have room because the lots are smaller and you're trying to build up and all 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:06.280 that stuff so right and then just a point again try to help make this stock 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.840 in a little bit more concise a lot of those design standards for solid waste 01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:19.440 and for fire are covered either in a fire code or a criteria manual so it's 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:23.640 if it's in here and it belongs in their criteria manual it was it was removed 01:04:23.640 --> 01:04:27.840 and we've been placed into a criteria manual so to address your question yes 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.720 there there are some standards that I know our solid waste folks and our 01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:34.080 engineering department our fire department have already updated to 01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:40.000 reflect those concerns about access by widening the street requiring wider 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:46.080 streets so yes that's been done citizen participate more citizen 01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:49.520 participation which always sounds good except if I'm trying to do something my 01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:52.400 property and you're inviting a lot of more people to tell me what to do on my 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:58.160 property would you expand sure we mean by that we we just want to make sure 01:04:58.160 --> 01:05:03.120 people are aware of what's being proposed it would it would only be and 01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:10.000 it's not a requirement it is a encouragement recommendation is that 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:16.080 different like I notice it's on my SUP process and preliminary plot process you 01:05:16.080 --> 01:05:21.120 have to have citizen input different than having a neighborhood meeting that 01:05:21.120 --> 01:05:24.680 essentially that's what it is it's just another name for neighborhood meeting we 01:05:24.680 --> 01:05:29.240 call it citizen participation and it should just be for any application that 01:05:29.240 --> 01:05:33.640 requires a public hearing or a significant application such as a zoning 01:05:33.640 --> 01:05:39.520 case or a specific use a couple of the new terms or uses you have in there's 01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:44.400 short-term rental yes and accessory dwelling so short terms I like somebody 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:50.880 trying to do Airbnb and Airbnb yes and how do you are we trying to I don't know 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:57.000 how you would know what somebody's using one or house for and they're trying to 01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:00.400 keep people from doing that no we're trying to do is trying to make sure we 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.560 understand where they are and we're gonna require them to register the 01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:12.640 short-term rentals so and so that's that's where units are being leased a 01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:17.800 full unit those are what we're considered for less than 30 days that's 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.340 the definition again going back to the definition it's important to know what 01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:26.200 these are and so the definition has a clear definition for it so less than 30 01:06:26.200 --> 01:06:33.960 days and a lease of a unit you know for for whatever time period and what the 01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.920 goal is is we're trying to make sure we understand and where they are and 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:43.840 register them as well as apply some standards now noise is going to be 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.200 covered under the noise standards other you know code related stuff are going to 01:06:48.200 --> 01:06:52.400 be covered in other ordinances we're just trying to put a place in a use in 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.120 their development code so we have a way of understanding where they are and how 01:06:56.120 --> 01:06:58.680 they're treated 01:06:58.680 --> 01:07:06.080 I mean we'll be able to tax them for renting the room and that that's the 01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:13.000 plan yes sir that can wait a moment yeah yeah we're missing a lot of taxes from 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.280 one I understand because we don't do that currently 01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:21.200 it's not that wouldn't apply to someone just renting a room it's a unit it's it 01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:28.140 would be a right that's the difference right so when you're renting out the 01:07:28.140 --> 01:07:32.000 full unit a full house of the entire house that's that would be concerned you 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.120 know like an ARB but if you're say renting and if it's a longer than 30 01:07:36.120 --> 01:07:39.280 days it's it's a different category again going back to the definitions we 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:45.040 want to make sure that they meet that definition I don't know that's one of 01:07:45.040 --> 01:07:48.800 the things that wasn't in the 2002 code you had to deal with correct and so 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:57.240 we're treating that as something that we need to anybody else any questions on 01:07:57.240 --> 01:08:00.880 those letters I thought where's a talking about the letters that were mailed out 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:19.400 yes sir everybody get one okay do you have you've been noticed so this 01:08:19.400 --> 01:08:23.880 definitely seems much more user-friendly it sounds like the way that you've 01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:29.120 reached out to the Development Alliance and other groups to get input I've just 01:08:29.120 --> 01:08:34.400 I'm really impressed with the comprehensive study and implementation so 01:08:34.400 --> 01:08:44.200 appreciate that appreciate that thanks wrong thank you all right our next item 01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:47.840 is any concluding items before we go into a closed meeting and I would like 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:55.080 to add for discussion an agenda item at our next scheduled meeting to discuss 01:08:55.080 --> 01:09:02.560 our downtown economic development task force that's that's a subcommittee so to 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:10.280 speak or task force of this board as Jill mentioned earlier she was needed to 01:09:10.280 --> 01:09:16.840 resign from that position we've always had somebody that's chaired that 01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:22.080 committee from this board or co-chaired that that's not anything that's written 01:09:22.080 --> 01:09:30.020 down and so given that we're winding down the downtown grant process from that 01:09:30.020 --> 01:09:34.200 board I think it would just be a good and given the vacancy it would be a good 01:09:34.200 --> 01:09:42.040 time for us to discuss the purpose a little concerned that the people that 01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:45.520 are have been been involved in that stay involved in the city process well that's 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.200 through this through this board or some other board or what's going on there I 01:09:49.200 --> 01:09:54.720 just think it'd be good time to discuss what what we expect as a board or city 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:59.400 to keep those folks involved and how they're going to move forward so if we 01:09:59.400 --> 01:10:08.080 could do that please does anybody have anything else they want to visit about 01:10:08.080 --> 01:10:17.520 we had preliminaries preliminarily scheduled a joint City Council EDP board 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:25.160 meeting for June 3rd we're going to postpone that until we have new staff 01:10:25.160 --> 01:10:30.800 hired and in place think that'd be a probably a wise thing to do so stay 01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:38.680 tuned on that anybody else have anything that we need to visit about in line film 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:44.200 festivals started yesterday so that's bringing a lot of folks in all right we 01:10:44.200 --> 01:10:54.000 need to go into a closed meeting at 12 14 p.m. to discuss EDP 19 - 18 01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:00.080 receiver report whole discussion and offer a financial incentive to Sally 01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:03.000 Beauty company