1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 good morning my name is Marty Rivers I chair the economic development 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,840 partnership board and I will call this meeting to order at 1103 a.m. and before 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:25,140 we get to our agenda items today I would be remiss if I didn't bring up 4 00:00:25,140 --> 00:00:30,440 Caroline first meeting without her line I'm sorry I know she meant a lot to the 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,560 staff and all the people on the board and if we could have a moment of silence 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,480 I think that would be appropriate thank you 7 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:54,160 all right on a lighter note we have a new guest here Erica Pangburn is the new 8 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,440 president of the Chamber of Commerce and I hate that stores if I can't make that 9 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,640 segue any better than that but I wanted to make sure everybody had a chance to 10 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,400 meet Erica I think you'll find out she'll be very delightful and exciting 11 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:15,360 we're glad to have her here so you like to say a few words again thank you for 12 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,400 inviting me into your community I am excited to be here I am in week two of 13 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:27,520 my Denton world tour total immersion I just congratulations on everything that 14 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,600 you're doing here I've been a tourist in your community since 2003 and watching 15 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 the exciting things you're doing and experiencing that from without having 16 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,080 skin in the game was a different kind of fun but I really appreciate you guys 17 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,680 welcoming me into your community and into your circle congratulations on all 18 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,000 of the intense work that you're doing and the progress that you're making here 19 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,880 I'm excited to be a part of it please come see us at the chamber if you need 20 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,760 anything if you want to talk about what the chamber is doing or where we're 21 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,080 going and where we're planning to go I would love to share that with you I have 22 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:10,200 cards please contact me anytime thanks Erica all right our first item before we 23 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,520 get started we're going a little bit backwards today you probably noticed on 24 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,860 your agenda that we do have a closed session item to talk to you because it's 25 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:23,120 closed session we'll do that at the end of our agenda so we're gonna look at our 26 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:29,360 first item is EDP 19 - 0 1 4 to consider approval of the minutes from our 27 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:38,080 February 13th meeting so I'll take a motion if anybody is so inclined 28 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:47,400 approval as previously distributed to the board motion and a second all those 29 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:55,520 in favor say aye aye any opposed all right I asked earlier and I hate to keep 30 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:01,760 skipping staff reports we do have a long agenda on the city staff reporters or 31 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:09,500 anything that that we must talk about or we need to bring up I don't want to miss 32 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:12,400 anything if there's something on there but all the information is in your file 33 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,560 to take a look at it's really good information so hopefully everybody's had 34 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,720 a chance to look at that Adam same thing do you have anything you'd like to bring 35 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:29,760 up any questions on the report anybody have any questions on any any of the 36 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:36,440 reports that you thoroughly read thank you staff I know you're doing a lot of 37 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,800 work and I hate to keep skipping that but we do have a long agenda all right our 38 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,440 first item we're going to get to talk about is to receive a report hold 39 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,040 discussion and give staff direction on our economic development partnership 40 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,960 business award nomination nominations and selection process that's item EDP 19 - 41 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:05,520 11 and looks like Michelle is up to visit with us about that thank you it's 42 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:12,720 deja vu all over again to quote Yogi Berra each year the economic development 43 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,920 partnership board has selected a company to recognize at the annual mayor council 44 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,880 business breakfast award and they have looked at the company's public private 45 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,920 partnerships and very much a focus on the growth and success of the company 46 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:35,040 as a result of this over time the EDP board has recognized predominantly 47 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:41,480 larger businesses and I think most of our our stellar we're lucky that we have 48 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,560 so many wonderful businesses in Denton and a great number of them have been 49 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:53,060 recognized however last August the EDP board had expressed their interest in 50 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:58,160 developing some criteria that would allow the board to present maybe a second 51 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:04,760 or an instead of type of recognition to smaller business and in looking at that 52 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,080 we wanted to make sure that we were not replicating the efforts of the Denton 53 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Chamber of Commerce because for years the Chamber of Commerce has also 54 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,640 provided a small business award so the difference between those would be that 55 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,640 the typically for the chamber they look at the company having been a chamber 56 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,800 member in good standing with greater than you know at least or greater than 57 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,320 two years of business within Denton and in good standing they look at their 58 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,600 business history and their overall management and their work environment and 59 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,880 a lot of times whether they've had to overcome hardship or not as a course of 60 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,240 their business operations and how they've managed to that so that has been 61 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,920 a great deal of that focus I know this board has been very interested and always 62 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,800 asks what the company is going to do for the community when you've looked at 63 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:03,280 incentives and things along those lines and I think that the prior criteria 64 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:08,520 which are included here in your backup and exhibit to these are the criteria 65 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,600 that you've used for the larger businesses and what we've attempted to 66 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,120 do is to adhere to those as closely as possible but make them much more 67 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,960 flexible so that they could encompass some things that were more typical of 68 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:27,440 private or in smaller companies so if you look at exhibit three these are the 69 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:36,560 proposed criterion for considering smaller business and I'm sorry exhibit 70 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:47,440 three oh I'm sorry page 33 thank you and just ask you we will have the Mayor 71 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Council business breakfast award either the first or second week of September 72 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,160 again and so we'll be coming back to you and asking you for nominations in June 73 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,640 for businesses that you would like to consider once again staff will put 74 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:08,560 together to make the matrix for you to do comparisons within the criteria for 75 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,720 large and for small business if that's what you decide so that you can make a 76 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:20,200 determination in August July or August if he'd like to award in in September so 77 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,200 that's kind of the time frame for this but if you take a look at exhibit three 78 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:30,360 those were the the aspects that we thought would be of interest to you and 79 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:40,600 we just ask you for feedback on those or if those look good to you so Michelle 80 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,200 who decides whether they meet their criterion or not well within the 81 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,880 category they the company has researched and that material is put in that matrix 82 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,360 so anything that they have accomplished or or done goes in that matrix for you 83 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:04,280 to compare side-by-side it's been a big spreadsheet in the past and that's 84 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:16,360 provided to you ahead of time Jill jester I didn't see a definition and 85 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,180 maybe I just missed it when I reviewed the packet earlier of the definition of 86 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:24,880 a small business has that been established it not really and that's 87 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,520 great it's established different ways with the small business administration a 88 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,880 lot of times it depends on what type of business that you're in whether it's a 89 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,860 small business or not I think that what's been the stumbling block here is 90 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:43,400 that the criterion for comparison previously had very much focused on the 91 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:50,560 number of jobs and the investment the tax investment in the community and so 92 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:55,160 quite typically everyone who has been awarded in the past has had over a 93 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,160 hundred employees and often well over a hundred employees so I would say that a 94 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,560 hundred employees and less and I know that Texas Workforce Solutions in their 95 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:09,760 grant composition has one structure for companies over a hundred employees and 96 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:18,560 another one for less than a hundred so really that would be up to you we're not 97 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:24,480 doing either or so it really could just be a business award that's up to you 98 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,360 whether you want to present two awards or one you could certainly present to a 99 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,360 larger business any smaller business and then that wouldn't more specific today 100 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,880 is not an action item this was just an idea it was not the board coming forward 101 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,400 and voting and saying this is what we wanted to do it was a discussion and 102 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,880 that's still where we are today correct with some more input that was asked from 103 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:52,520 the staff is that correct yes so I think this is great and of course this is 104 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,680 something that that I brought up a while ago and I'm glad that we're having this 105 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:02,880 conversation I I would like to keep it to separate awards because I think it's 106 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,640 different criteria and I that's where I'm coming from and I think we have 107 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,320 plenty of businesses to fill both of those categories that need to be 108 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,760 recognized okay 109 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:25,920 any other comments or questions 110 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:33,080 do we need to at some point then decide if we're gonna do one or two and put 111 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,640 that on if we're gonna nominate folks we need to know what the criteria 112 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:43,560 difference with whether we want to as a group or not and or if we do move forward 113 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:48,040 we need to have some kind of correct I think you need to officially decide 114 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,480 whether you want to do one or two and certainly there's no reason you can't do 115 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,800 two I think that had been the prior discussion too and I need to have 116 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,200 specified in here stating what constitutes a large versus a smaller 117 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,040 business something that that would then be meets criteria as a smaller business 118 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:14,080 so I would be looking at probably a hundred or fewer employees as being a 119 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:22,160 small business if if that meets with the group's approval and certainly someone 120 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,080 has other criteria they want to use that would be something we need to vote on it 121 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:41,080 had to be on the future agenda yes so that we don't waste the staff's time does 122 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,880 everybody interested in moving forward with looking at a small and large 123 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:56,880 business or not comments I don't know that I'm against it I would say that you 124 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,880 know I just don't want to dilute the top you know what we do is business of the 125 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,160 year it does seem a little duplicative with the chamber doesn't give out a 126 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,480 large a small or I mean it's only a small business award so I don't know 127 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:17,080 that I'm seeing a large difference between the criteria in those two these 128 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:23,720 are just my thoughts it is noted in our backup though that that award has to go 129 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,240 to a chamber member and so there are some businesses that aren't necessarily 130 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:34,400 chamber members that I think should be recognized eventually 131 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:47,200 Erica so if this helps the first week of May every year is national small 132 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:53,040 business week so going forward in the chamber we hope to starting next year 133 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:59,760 really tout that and draw attention to small businesses during that week so I 134 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,840 don't know how this works on your schedule of offering that awards but if 135 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,500 you were going to offer to national small business week would be a good time 136 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:11,080 to celebrate all of our small businesses and offer something specifically for 137 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,200 them and then you could set your business of the year 138 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:27,880 my two cents are typically it's been larger businesses because they make a 139 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,360 bigger impact on it's easier to make a big impact on employment numbers and 140 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,020 those kind of things that being said we've got plenty of businesses to 141 00:13:36,020 --> 00:13:38,720 recognize or a lot of them doing some good things I don't know what it would 142 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,400 hurt to have an additional business from from us do that all that does is spread 143 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:52,200 good cheer and and help recognize some some folks so I'd be for that 144 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:14,560 I don't know that we can I don't know that we can vote on an agenda item that 145 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,860 wasn't on I mean to create a new small business awards is it wasn't on the 146 00:14:17,860 --> 00:14:24,800 agenda to vote on my name is Tony point down the chief financial officer I have 147 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,900 stepped in in an interim to run economic development what I'm hearing is some 148 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:35,480 consensus from you saying come back to the board with these two criteria and 149 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,320 applications we'll come back to you and it will entertain at that point we'll 150 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,840 make those action items and we'll have the criteria for you and you can then 151 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,760 debate on how you want to do that and if the if the committee doesn't want to do 152 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,140 the small business application prefers that we do something different as Eric 153 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:55,080 has suggested we can certainly discuss that at that point as well but I'm hearing 154 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:03,560 a consensus I think that'd be great okay thank you thanks Michelle all right we 155 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,760 have two recommendations from our downtown economic development task force 156 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:17,760 to consider today and the first one is item 19 - 16 to hold a report give 157 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:28,880 discussion on a grand amount of $10,000 for 111 Industrial Street Julie I do have 158 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:34,160 with me some copies of the scoring sheet this kind of came up at the last council 159 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,880 meeting if you would like to have these in your hands you can kind of see in a 160 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,960 large it's on this it's on here but in a larger format kind of what the scoring 161 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:49,120 is that might help you these projects are reviewed with the following 162 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,840 considerations in mind these are in the grant policy that the project increases 163 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,160 property valuation or increases the sales tax we it is looked at for 164 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,280 historical accuracy or design quality improves capacity of water waste water 165 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,040 or electric service so we have some confusion about that what that means is 166 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,480 you are going from a two inch water pipe to a four inch water pipe which might 167 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,400 help serve the entire area you're increasing from a phase two to a phase 168 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:22,200 three transformer which might benefit the entire area improvements to health 169 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,960 and safety results in significant increase in downtown population that is 170 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,440 foot traffic day or night or both and then the other impacts could include 171 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,220 partners with another business like shared parking is a target business like 172 00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:40,240 a grocery store or pharmacy and promotes the development of arts and 173 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,600 entertainment downtown so now and we have recently changed this this may be 174 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:51,480 the first one you're seeing with the new criteria these first few are were in the 175 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,200 old one the facade rehabilitation and building renovation awnings and signage 176 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,400 impact fee reimbursement utility upgrades which falls under what I just 177 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,160 talked about the increases and then we added after the fire at the mini mall 178 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,720 last year we added interior and code improvements which includes as space to 179 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:16,000 asbestos removal lead paint removal and the addition of fire suppression systems 180 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:22,920 so we have discovered that's an important thing so this is the sheet 181 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,600 that I just handed out to you it's not very readable right here but you can see 182 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,080 it in your hands the recommendations up there you can see the score 25 to 30 is 183 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:39,880 up to 25,000 20 to 24 is up to 10,000 recommendation 15 to 19 up to 5 and 184 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:51,120 then under 15 does not qualify so this is 111 industrial street this is the 185 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:56,360 Steve's current location at 219 is East Hickory I'm sure none of you have ever 186 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:01,600 been there this is a map showing that location where it is just so you get a 187 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,000 feeling it is right there what we in the heart of what we call our entertainment 188 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,720 district and this is the this was the front it doesn't look like this right 189 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000 now this was the front of seniors in motion this is the area that they're 190 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,840 going to move into this will about double their space and give them an 191 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,920 opportunity to have a patio and a real stage area right now they have music 192 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,640 several nights a week but as you walk in the musicians are immediately to your 193 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,180 left and so they have noticed that some people oh there's people playing we 194 00:18:31,180 --> 00:18:34,680 shouldn't go in you know under so they're gonna have a real stage at another 195 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,960 location not by the front door they'll have a nice patio in the back as well 196 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,080 this is kind of a layout of the interior this is also in your backup if you need 197 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,520 to see it a little closer so they're going to have a private tasting room an 198 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,640 office humidor as well this will also give them an opportunity for their 199 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,520 cigar smokers to go out on the patio and enjoy their cigars stage will be over 200 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:05,680 here and the bar is right about there so their eligible expenses are 201 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:12,120 improvements to the facade are 20,000 awnings are 10,000 signs 13,000 the 202 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:16,680 impact fees is an estimate it's probably a low estimate of 5,000 utility upgrades 203 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:22,120 are 20,000 for a total of 68,000 we estimate that project is probably 204 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:26,720 already above that amount the total cost is always above the amount when they 205 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:33,840 first turn it in they are requesting $25,000 Steve severance the owner and I'm 206 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,640 sorry Roger I Roger Anderson I looked over there and thought it was Tim baby 207 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,520 from a distance so I need my glasses checked they are here to answer any 208 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:48,280 questions if you have questions of them the previous review back in September 209 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,760 the downtown task force looked at this and recommended $10,000 that was a 210 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,880 unanimous vote their average score was 24 so that score of 20 to 24 gives them 211 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:05,480 a recommendation of up to $10,000 so we are seeking a recommendation to pass on 212 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:12,420 to City Council regarding this when we changed the grant back in October we are 213 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:17,360 now taking every grant to City Council and that will be going forward as 214 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:22,880 well because of the TIF board being involved I will tell you right now this 215 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,840 money is still in general fund right this moment in that fund there's a 216 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,360 hundred and eight thousand five hundred and thirteen dollars we do have five 217 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:38,960 grants that are in process if all five of those grants go through at the amount 218 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,360 that they've been recommended that will leave that balance at thirty eight 219 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:47,220 thousand five hundred and thirteen dollars including today's including today's 220 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:54,520 including the two today so they would you like to say anything Steve you can 221 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,920 get up and say anything he has a question I'm sorry well yeah I'm glad 222 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,120 that you asked that I wanted to clarify if that included these two as well and 223 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:08,440 so just for more clarity this is not into the TIF just yet these funds are 224 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,720 still from what we have left right these are still in the general fund from the 225 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,560 previous balance that we had before the council said use this fund first then 226 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,760 once this fund is gone we will go to the hundred thousand in the TIF fund and 227 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,840 designated especially for this purpose right and and state law is pretty pretty 228 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,480 stringent about the TIF district and what can be done so any anything that 229 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,600 receives a grant out of the TIF fund has got to be located in the TIF map in the 230 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,840 district just so you know Steve if you want to say something you'll have to 231 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:50,080 come to the microphones our large studio audience can can hear what you'd like to 232 00:21:50,080 --> 00:22:02,960 say and thank you for allowing us to come in and speak to you I love the 233 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Yogi Berra reference at the beginning one of the things that I always heard is 234 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,360 one of the stories I heard is Yogi Berra was asked about his favorite Italian 235 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,760 restaurant out in New York and he goes I don't know nobody goes there anymore 236 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,720 because it's too busy and that's the way we feel you know we have as Julie had 237 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,880 mentioned we have people walk by the front door they look in they go my gosh 238 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,440 I can't fit in there there's no place to sit and so I'm amazed and just you know 239 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,720 two and a half years we've approached that and I'm so pleased of the support 240 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,040 that the city's given us and I hope that today we'll get a little extra support 241 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,200 financially but as Julie implied we have pretty much blown through that 68,000 and 242 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:48,240 have a lot of fun things going on there Roger Anderson has been a big help on 243 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,840 moving the project forward TAVC has been an interesting organization to work with 244 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,800 once again but overall you know we're moving forward our plan right now is if 245 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,560 at all possible to get our CEO this month and get ready to move in assuming 246 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,680 TAVC issues my dual license in May so sometime mid-may we'll get there so 247 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,320 we're really close we're really excited and look forward to making that move so 248 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:23,960 any questions for me will you be doing any kind of I guess insulation for sound 249 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,640 for separating the businesses so I know there's another location just at the end 250 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:35,280 that does live-blog music yep are you yes we're not we're not we're not doing 251 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,760 a whole significant build out of a sound system or repression system in there 252 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,760 right now because we do jazz we're not bringing in rock bands we're not doing 253 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:53,080 all the you know the big heavy stuff so it tends to be more acoustical and so we 254 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,200 didn't do any type of sound evaluation to see if we would impact primarily 255 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,640 text office who you know where the sound is going to be coming from the the 256 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,560 stage is essentially on the wall with text office we have not done any sound 257 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,560 testing to see if that would impact their business but initially based on 258 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,000 what we experienced over in our current place I don't think it will be in a 259 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:24,000 dramatic impact and if it is we'll take care of that. Anybody else? Thanks Steve. 260 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:32,640 All right thank you. There's no more comments or questions on this item feel 261 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:42,440 free to make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the full request and 262 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:49,000 just say congrats on growing so quickly that's pretty great. 263 00:24:49,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Somebody like to second that? All right we have a motion and a second. Any 264 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:16,040 further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 265 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:26,840 Step two of three. Thank you. All right our next agenda item is 19-17 and it 266 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:34,120 is for a grant request on 101 West Hickory and you may know that as the 267 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:40,200 former Abby Ian. So this the Steve's was originally on the March agenda so this 268 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,760 I'm just going to go through these slides really quickly because we just 269 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 covered them so I just had two presentations because they were originally 270 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:55,040 on separate agendas. So 101 West Hickory and here's the map again located right 271 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,160 there at the corner of Hickory and Locust right across from Wells Fargo 272 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Bank. So this is how it looked a couple of months ago it does not look like this 273 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320 right now it's got scaffolding all over it and they're busy making changes. 274 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,480 They're also doing the facade on more fun comics so it won't match. I would 275 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,960 tell you that they're going to I guess they're covering up the tilt wall 276 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,000 building that's what we call it tilt wall aggregate stone that's on there at 277 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,800 this point. It's actually kind of a it's a it's on the side is more that tilt 278 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,240 wall the front's been plastered I think but they are going to use a brick 279 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,600 veneer. They have looked at historic photos of this building from the 1940s 280 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,760 and earlier and decided it needed some decoration on the top. There will be 281 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:51,700 windows added on the side and this is kind of a side view and if this is the 282 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:55,960 top is the side view the bottom is the front view which kind of separates these 283 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:03,360 two storefronts a little bit gives them their own distinctive look. And just 284 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,800 another elevation here this is the backside and what used to be known as 285 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:16,600 the Abbey Underground down there to the bottom left. So their 286 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:23,480 eligible expenses are $144,165 for facade and $15,000 for awnings which 287 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,020 gives them an allowable expense of $159. Total cost of the project I'm sure is 288 00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:33,840 more than this right now too because we've discovered this is like HDTV show 289 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,880 once you get into it you find other things. So the original total cost of the 290 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,800 project was estimated at $500,000. They're asking for $25,000. Alex Payne 291 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,000 who is one of the partners in this is here today to answer any questions you 292 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,960 might have. Valentine's Day downtown task force looked at this and unanimously 293 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,720 recommended a $25,000 grant. Their average score was 27.57 which was 294 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:06,040 rounded to 28 and that gave them a grant recommendation up to $25,000. So again 295 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,760 we are seeking a recommendation to City Council to move forward with this and if 296 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,800 you have any questions we can get Alex up to answer if we need. I have a 297 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,240 question about the two separate buildings more fun comic because I saw 298 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,400 that I was like what's happening I thought they were going out of business 299 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,720 and then I so we're making them look the same is it I guess it's the same owner 300 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,920 and just originally one of the elevations that was shown previously the 301 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,360 last one was was the original I guess construction when it was redone back in 302 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,640 2007 but this was the old white furnitures building which was from my 303 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,240 memory enough people refer to as Cravens and so it was built in the 70s one big 304 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:53,360 tilt wall building it was one one storefront entry and in 2007 or six and 305 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000 seven I was actually part of a group that that bought it and renovated it and 306 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,560 can it created what appears to be two storefronts here but if you really it's 307 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,920 really just a facade that made it look like two storefronts so you know this 308 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,120 again was an earlier project for us and we I'm not I never was real happy and 309 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,600 thrilled with how the way it turned out that was kind of cheap looking the brick 310 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,260 the fake brick veneer and so when we actually bought this back from Tim at 311 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:24,680 the Abbey Inn and hired an architect I said I wanted to make it actually look 312 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,520 more historic historically accurate so what we're doing is is like there's 313 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,980 other examples of buildings on other corners of the square like the caddy 314 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:41,000 cornered from us at where the tattoo place is for instance and I can't 315 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,360 remember who's right next door I believe that's this yeah but I'm just I guess 316 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,880 what I'm saying is it was an original building and it looks like one building 317 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,040 but there's two separate storefront entries so that's kind of what we're 318 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,480 doing in this case where it's gonna say every the same brick it'll have slightly 319 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:05,280 a different and it's not pink so the brick that's on more fun is what you're 320 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,120 saying will be on the whole just be moving just continuing the same 321 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:23,080 architecture across it'll have a slightly different you know look at the top of 322 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,920 the building but it'll be the same brick we're you know again their signage will 323 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,280 go back up they're not going anywhere in fact what isn't represented here or part 324 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,040 of the request is their interior modifications the tenant that signed the 325 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,680 lease for the former Abbey is making quite a few interior renovations to the 326 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,040 space I'm gonna reopen it's the lion and crown pub they've got two other three 327 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:52,180 other locations in DFW and then again we expanded part of the back for for more 328 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:55,120 fun to give them more room in the back there are that's already done and they've 329 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:01,200 they've opened that portion of the space the we felt like it needed windows and 330 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,160 cut you know cut windows in the side of the building that's done now adding you 331 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,880 know there's read the old version was was kind of a fake a fake brick and then 332 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,680 like EFIS throughout what we're going we're actually going over from here 333 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,440 forward with an actual thin brick it is I mean it's real bricks that are just 334 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:28,440 cut down real thin and so that's being applied to the existing surface kind of 335 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,200 hard you can peek in there if you walk by but it's really good-looking it's 336 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,200 gonna be more of a more of a maroon brownish color than than what's shown 337 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,280 here in this in this scan we're actually adding some of the some of the features 338 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,840 that you see there are are using that EFIS product but actually along the base 339 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:53,160 here I was fearful because EFIS can get kicked or punched or hit and like you'll 340 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,640 you'll see it you know you'll see the styrofoam and so we actually ended up 341 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,560 going and using an actual cast stone at the base of the building a lot of detail 342 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,820 the architect we hired is that I think highly qualified in historic architecture 343 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:12,680 and I met him because he did the architecture at Parker Square and in park 344 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,720 in Flower Mound and did the newest Midwestern State University campus 345 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,020 there and if you haven't been by there again very good job of it like creating 346 00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:29,440 new buildings that look historically accurate. So on the grant it's per 347 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,680 building right so are we is the the 25 that's being asked for I guess more or 348 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,120 less is going to be used in for two or which one does it apply to you it'll 349 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,320 just apply to the one building it's one it is one building it's just an interior 350 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,000 demising wall that separates we get this task force confused a lot to me it's 351 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,440 it's one our number you know a tax ID number it has two two physical addresses 352 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,580 just because it has two storefronts and that postal company gives it two 353 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:05,880 different addresses 101 and 103 Hickory but it's it's one building okay I'm just 354 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,680 curious because there's a certain amount that each building is allowed to go up 355 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:17,000 to and I didn't know if it was so I could have asked for 50 take it yeah but 356 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:26,000 thank you for that clarification the other questions or comments when do we 357 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:33,080 expect the line and crown to open against my good wishes they intend to 358 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,120 open the basement level first and I think they're gonna try and do that 359 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:42,160 within probably a week or two and enter from the back but we actually think we'll 360 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,000 be out of the out of the scaffolding me down and everything be done by the end 361 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,680 of the month so the upstairs probably won't open to me they they've got some 362 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,480 more construction to do upstairs but yep the downstairs I walked through 363 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,000 yesterday it's actually looking really good what they did inside just FYI is I 364 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,040 always felt like with the last tenant you you might have known there was a 365 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,580 downstairs but there was no good way to get there you either went down this 366 00:34:07,580 --> 00:34:11,520 fire escape or you went outside to the alley you went in and it wasn't a very 367 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,920 inviting entrance so they've actually taken and blown out the wall where that 368 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,080 fire exit stair was and then proved that making it where you when you're upstairs 369 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,280 you see downstairs and then you get downstairs you're they've opened it up 370 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,480 and built out of space that had never been finished and now it's much more I 371 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000 guess inviting environment better lighting it doesn't feel like a dungeon 372 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,800 down there anymore and so but that's that's still going to be a stage area 373 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,520 it'll have like pool and darts and that kind of stuff like you might expect in a 374 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,280 pub upstairs will still be mostly just a restaurant so are you guys reworking the 375 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:54,760 back wall also painting it to kind of mimic the the color of the brick and tie 376 00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:02,920 in and then here some remnants of the yeah there'll still be some remnants 377 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,520 because I can do it here so that's the this is the current and so that that was 378 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:18,880 the the tilt wall panels and then so here we're adding adding some some some 379 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,880 brick and an ethos bands to just kind of break it up and give it some character 380 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,760 along the top and then painting some of the existing panels not adding windows 381 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,880 so that's actually in the kitchen but kind of giving us so much where a window 382 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:40,160 might be but and then the back facing facing walnut I guess is is just going to 383 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,520 be painted and then replacing and fixing awnings the awning up front was 384 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,880 completely rotted out so replacing the metal panel putting new roofing material 385 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:57,340 on it we have already replaced the roof but yeah it's exterior exterior related 386 00:35:57,340 --> 00:36:01,400 cost we are pushing that five hundred thousand dollar number and then interior 387 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,280 I don't know exactly what the tenants spending on their portion but we have 388 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:13,560 spent quite a bit more on that expanding the comic book store yes ma'am do you 389 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:23,680 know is this a contributing building any other comments or questions anybody you 390 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:34,760 like to make a motion party Tony Clark I'll make a motion to approve we have a 391 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:43,920 motion and the second any further discussion all those in favor say aye 392 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:50,800 opposed all right thank you good questions and really good projects we 393 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,680 are also fortunate enough today to have some of our planning and zoning staff 394 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:03,240 here today to give us a report item number 19 - 12 and they're here to talk 395 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:10,080 about the didn't development code update and draft zoning map 396 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:27,640 make sure and ask about your letters make sure ask about your letters sir give me 397 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:36,440 two seconds here to pull up our PowerPoint presentation yes ma'am 398 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,160 I just thought I would let the board know that in the past I've spoken and as 399 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,120 representative of the downtown task force as chair of that for the past year 400 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,760 and a half or so of which Alex is vice chair however due to some additional 401 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:57,400 community commitments I have resigned and they are voting a new chairperson in 402 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,960 the next meeting just wanted to let you know we're gonna I'm gonna make a 403 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,920 request for our next economic development board meeting that we discussed the 404 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,800 downtown task force and the chair and how all that's gonna work going forward 405 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:21,240 so that may be I think Alex connect does and you did not know that so that's a 406 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:27,080 future agenda agenda item but how it's gonna work so they meet is it next week 407 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,080 yeah and I'm out of town next week I won't be there but first thing on their 408 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:38,680 agenda is electing a new chairperson so there'll be someone at the home all right 409 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,960 good morning this is a little different I've never seen this set up but it's a 410 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,720 little more daunting that you all are sitting at the table but my name is Ron 411 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:51,880 Mingida I'm with development services a principal planner they're working on our 412 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,840 update to the Denton development code and draft zoning map which I hope you've 413 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,080 heard about and we appreciate the opportunity to talk to you all we been 414 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,760 working on this for some time I know I've seen some of your faces in other 415 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,600 meetings and in other events so hopefully these what you're gonna see 416 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,480 today is not new but for those that I have not been able to speak with again 417 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040 appreciate the opportunity and please let me know if you have any questions so 418 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,280 today is really just a summary of what we're doing we're gonna go over the 419 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,120 schedule and we're pretty close to the to the end zone here we've got another 420 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,440 couple weeks till we get to City Council we're gonna talk a little bit about some 421 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,680 highlights of what's being proposed as far as the update to the development 422 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,480 code and what our next steps are and then we can have a question and answer 423 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:49,120 session after that so as far as the process we started this back in summer 424 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:55,900 of 2017 where there were several modules modules were broken into different 425 00:39:55,900 --> 00:40:01,080 categories module one was the districts and uses the zoning districts and uses 426 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,160 module two was your administration and your procedure chapter and then three 427 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:12,080 were your development standards we went through that through spring of 2018 and 428 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:18,400 then in spring I'm sorry winter of 2019 we consolidated that and presented a 429 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,960 revised draft of the consolidated draft and through all this out throughout this 430 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,040 process there was a number of public meetings on meeting with neighborhood 431 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,360 groups development community we met at the chamber a number of time with the 432 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:43,280 DCDA group going over our proposed code so what's the path to adoption as I said 433 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,800 earlier we we've been working on this for some time really with the 434 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:56,480 consolidated draft here February of 2018 I'm sorry 2019 working through the 435 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,800 couple of iterations we've held a number of work sessions with the Planning 436 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,000 Zoning Commission and City Council taking each chapter by chapter our hope 437 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:15,440 is to get to the April 10th which is today the Planning Zoning Commission and 438 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,360 making a presentation to them and getting their consideration or 439 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,440 recommendation that they will then forward to that we will forward to City 440 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,600 Council on April 23rd April 23rd is a couple weeks away from now and that is 441 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,520 when the city is going to be considering both the draft zoning code and the draft 442 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,680 zoning map so again I wanted to highlight that public outreach is still 443 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,360 available although we're at the April 10th and close to the April 23rd we 444 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,000 still welcome comments we still welcome input from the public we still welcome 445 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,080 comments from this board if you have not had the opportunity to review the draft 446 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:04,680 it is online in the own designated web page it's den code 2030 calm in there 447 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,000 you'll see the draft code and as well as the draft zoning map the draft zoning 448 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,800 map is an interactive map where you can click on your parcel you can search your 449 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,600 parcel your property or properties type in your property address it'll zoom 450 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,240 right into your parcel you click on the parcel it'll have your existing zoning 451 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:28,960 what's being proposed as well as links to what is proposed as far as new uses 452 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,720 new standards and all of the other stuff that's that's part of the development 453 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:40,200 code so the project goal is really to implement the den plan 2030 I think most 454 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,800 of you have been involved or have heard of the den plan 2030 one of the action 455 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,760 items from that plan was to update our development code and as it relates to 456 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,720 the development code also revisit our zoning map and so that's what we are 457 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:58,760 currently doing and again I'm not gonna read this list here but really is just 458 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,760 to implement our den plan 2030 so what that looks like is that we have a den 459 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,100 plan 2030 with a future lane use map and it's my understanding that we are 460 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:14,760 scheduling another item for this board at a later time to talk about the future 461 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,760 lane use map but that map as well as the entire develop I'm sorry the den plan 462 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,800 2030 is informing what we're proposing with the development code update and the 463 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,040 zoning map so you see the arrow pointing in that direction and that's 464 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:39,160 where we're getting our information the den plan 2030 has a number of chapters 465 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,240 and again just kind of restating some of the things that I've already stated that 466 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:47,960 these chapters are what we are looking at when we're looking at the development 467 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:54,280 code from lane use to parks to mobility to housing all of which inform how we 468 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,840 craft and draft this code update so economic development is a big part of 469 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,240 that as well the future lane use map informs you know where economic 470 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:09,720 development is suitable for future development and again in an upcoming 471 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:14,800 board meeting we will talk about that one in particular is the business 472 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,240 innovation area and the industrial center that is west of town and that's 473 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:24,680 an important area and that's identified not only in the plan but also in the 474 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:34,160 future lane use map as a city we want to grow compactly meaning that we want to 475 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,400 make sure that we grow within our means grow with purpose grow our assets so 476 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,720 what we have today we want to make sure we use them grow resourcefully grow with 477 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:49,040 character so any areas such as the downtown and such as any other areas that 478 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,760 have character the areas around the universities the neighborhoods all of 479 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,080 which have character we want to make sure that we can continue that as well 480 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,480 as preserve and in encourage more of those types of developments and then grow 481 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:09,840 with balance the future land use map is our tool we see residential in the areas 482 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,400 we see commercial in the areas we see industrial and we see business in other 483 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,680 so we want to make sure we we have a city that has balance and not just one 484 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:25,080 particular land use so how have we taken that and improve our development code 485 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,640 update so one of the things that we're working on and have been working on is 486 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,920 making it more user-friendly using more charts using more graphics and making it 487 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,160 just easier to understand and again I encourage you to look at your if you 488 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,080 have an opportunity to go online look at the draft code you'll see a lot of what 489 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:50,200 is shown here it's more concise more clear and then that's the goal we want 490 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,520 to make sure that as anyone that comes in and wants to develop in the city they 491 00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:01,240 understand the code and they can go through it without confusion we 492 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,840 understand that there's different sorry different development standards 493 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,720 throughout the city we've got the the square area and I think you you guys 494 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,720 heard a little bit about what's going on with the previous item we also have 495 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:18,600 corridors the loop and brinker corridor areas that we we want to develop 496 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,880 standards for and i-35 specifically but we also have those character areas the 497 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,880 the hickory and Welch and historic districts and other character areas we 498 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,840 want also develop design stands for and also the industrial area the industrial 499 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,840 park by the airport those are different as well so they should be treated 500 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,280 differently so we've got development standards that are tailored for those 501 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:48,000 particular areas again I want to just emphasize that we're trying to make it 502 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,840 more user-friendly we've got additional charts that make it easier to follow 503 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:57,680 this in particular this chart will be here list all of the different uses I'm 504 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:03,720 sorry applications it identifies what's required who makes the decision is it P&Z 505 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,220 is it City Council is it the zoning Board of Adjustment so again if anybody 506 00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:15,080 wants to apply for an application they understand who reviews it who makes the 507 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,840 decision and what the process is so really really helpful and again try to 508 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,520 make this document a more user-friendly plan document okay I'm going to run 509 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,600 through these really quickly these are the key changes to the sub chapters and 510 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,520 I won't spend too much time on it but I just really want to share with you some 511 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:43,220 of the key changes chapter one again is our general standards just discusses our 512 00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:47,200 nonconformities it talks about how we transition from the old code to the new 513 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,440 code talks about how it's organized in some of the enforcements that are part 514 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,840 of the process chapter two I already talked a little bit about the chart it 515 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,960 has procedures that speak to common procedures that every application has to 516 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,200 follow but there's also specific procedures that are also applied to 517 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,760 specific application there is a section in this sub chapter that talks about 518 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:22,400 citizen participation I think that's a City Council initiative or policy that 519 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,800 we want to make sure that we have citizen participate in the process so 520 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:31,000 we've added this process to ensure that anybody that's wanting to know more and 521 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,760 want to be involved in provide input they are able to so again try to make 522 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:43,240 this as user-friendly as possible PDs how many of y'all have heard of PDs 523 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:50,200 before I've been involved in PDs so you know in 2002 they were no longer allowed 524 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:56,920 we're bringing you back so with a little bit more criteria so it's not just apply 525 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,240 for a PD for whatever you want so there's going to be a criteria when you 526 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,920 are able to and that's spelled out in the code so PDs for those that don't 527 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,560 know is an ability for a property owner or developer to submit an application 528 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,960 apply for a PD and deviate from the code but at the same time providing more 529 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:22,240 enhancement so it's a give-and-take ropes and ranches a PD some of the 530 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,840 residential developments on the southeast portion of the city are PDs so 531 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,800 those those are what you are looking at as far as peace and those are coming 532 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:37,280 back as part of this PD if City Council approves this on April 23rd we're also 533 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,460 building in more flexibility and relief procedures to again provide the 534 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:46,040 development community and business owners the opportunity to develop in a 535 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:52,360 more flexible but at the same time with standards that come with it so we're not 536 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,440 just saying you can develop but there's going to be some flexibility in the form 537 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:02,360 of allowing them to not necessarily do this but you can do this so giving them 538 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,840 options is what we're saying okay zoning district this is probably one of the 539 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:15,720 biggest chapters what we did here we currently have 23 or 24 zoning districts 540 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:23,360 if you all can imagine that your dr1 dr2 our CR 1 all these zoning districts we 541 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,640 are combining those down to 14 this chart and you I apologize for the size 542 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,280 of this but you should have a copy of this in your handout or your 543 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:38,720 presentation this one is a little bit updated but not not too much the middle 544 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:45,800 column is the existing zoning districts the farther right is the proposed zoning 545 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,420 district and you see that for the majority the single-family zoning 546 00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:56,400 districts or residential zoning districts that is are going to transition from in 547 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,280 our to an R so for example in our one is going to go to our one not a 548 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,420 significant change the design standards are not going to be significantly 549 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:11,160 different the council committee that's helping with this process and Healy is 550 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:17,200 part of that committee basically said keep it as low impactful to the 551 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:23,480 residential districts as possible so the nr2 is going to be r2 the nr3 is going 552 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:28,920 to be our three but that doesn't apply to all of the zoners we we have other 553 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,020 zoning districts that we're going to consolidate and the ones that you see 554 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:36,240 there that are consolidated are the ones that have multiple zone districts that 555 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:43,000 are going into a single zoning district for example the dr1 dr2 our CR 1 in our 556 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,880 CR 2 are now going to be zoned as far as this chart of this chart on our seven so 557 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,280 if if a person a property owner owns a dr1 their zoning district is going to be 558 00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:03,240 an r7 and but in similar with the other ones DCN and DCG will go to an MD RC our 559 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:10,480 and an RC our D I'm sorry our CCD will go to an MR and so on and so forth the 560 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:18,040 master plan communities the existing 15 or so PDs will transition to PDs they'll 561 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:24,600 just be called PDs those zoning cases that were approved by City Council that 562 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:31,640 have conditions that were approved with them will be called PDs because they're 563 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,960 treated differently because they're not going to be transitioned to a straight 564 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,560 zoning because they've got those conditions therefore we're calling them 565 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,400 PDs and they'll be identified on a map as PDs and when someone clicks on it or 566 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120 refers to it there'll be an ordinance number so that they can refer to the 567 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,120 conditions that are signed to that particular property so does anybody have 568 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,240 any questions I know I've been rambling here for a bit I want to make sure I 569 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:04,360 answer anybody's questions I'm saving them up saving all of our hey I've got 570 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:11,480 Jim over here is gonna help me with those again graphics and charts I'm just 571 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:17,280 gonna skip through this one overlay districts these these overlay districts 572 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,400 are your fry Street overlay districts these are the oak Hickory historic 573 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,600 district your West Oak historic district nothing is going to change to those the 574 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:33,560 only point that I want to make here is that the razor ranch overlay district is 575 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:39,520 going to be carried forward as an appendix to the development code so it's 576 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,880 not going to go away it's just going to be an appendix to development code it's 577 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,400 just so large in in in number of pages so we're can we're just going to move it 578 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,120 from where it should have been or it's proposed to be in four as an appendix 579 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,200 but nothing's going to change to that overlay district it's going to remain 580 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,640 the same as well as the other overlay districts we're just we're just putting 581 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:08,080 it in a new subchapter use regulations this relates to the zoning map what that 582 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:15,520 zoning is allowed is based on this use chapter this use regulation subchapter 583 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:23,880 so when you flip over to the subchapter you have this table and as you can see 584 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:29,760 this is just one of I want to say six or seven pages starting with residential 585 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:36,640 it goes down to commercial it goes down to industrial and in other uses you can 586 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,280 see that looking at the column here single family and the P stands for 587 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:48,080 permitted it's permitted in all of the residential zoning district is also 588 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,200 permitted in the MN which is the mixed-use neighborhood district but you 589 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:57,240 can see that if it does not have a P or an S it's not permitted in the other 590 00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:02,280 zoning district if you look down here the next one down town homes it's 591 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,760 permitted in the R3 R4 with a specific use permit that's what the S stands for 592 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,320 if there is a plus that means that you have to refer to a use specific standard 593 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:20,480 that's identified here and listed as such so this use table is similar to what we 594 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:26,440 have today we're updating it we're adding new uses we're deleting some that 595 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:32,080 are not you know used as much but really it's just again clear up and as you all 596 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,240 know if a developer comes in and they wanted to say they want to do this use 597 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:40,480 and we don't have it well we can't really approve it unless the director 598 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,600 has the ability to make it consistent with another use but if it doesn't we're 599 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,240 we have to do code amendment so what we're doing is we're adding those uses 600 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:54,120 that we've heard over the years so we're making sure that we address those and 601 00:55:54,120 --> 00:56:02,520 some of those are these here tiny home development I know that's something 602 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,520 that we've heard a lot about we're adding that let's see here bourbon farm 603 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,720 community garden you know to clarify we want to make sure we have a use 604 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:17,940 identified in the table to make sure we we know where they belong in what use 605 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:22,600 specific standards would be allowed short-term rental is another one that's 606 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:28,760 something new so we've added that use in the chapter I think outdoor storage is 607 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:35,160 another one that we've added that's significant so again this is just a 608 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:41,240 short list of the ones that we've added or a modified there's a laundry of other 609 00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:44,880 lists of uses that's part of that subchapter so I encourage you to look at 610 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,240 that and let us know what you guys think development standards this is where all 611 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:54,080 the development standards are grouped into won't spend a whole lot of time on 612 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,440 this essentially we provided more flexibility in when I say flexibility 613 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:06,640 more options for the community to to get to where they want to be hopefully it 614 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:13,000 goes to where they're able to develop at the same time meeting the goals of the 615 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:21,520 community and the plan 2030 the council recently approved a landscaping in tree 616 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,840 or conservation ordinance recently and that is being folded in to this draft 617 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:32,240 code we've also added some standards more standards that is and more options 618 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,320 for walls and fences and then we also last year the City Council approved some 619 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,620 parking minimums and maximums that are being reflected into this development 620 00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:47,640 code update too so sub chapter 7 deals with subdivisions won't bore you about 621 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,600 that it's more about platting subdivisions 622 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:56,760 criterias and development standards one in particular part of that is the option 623 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:02,560 for cluster development and this map helps illustrate what that means the goal 624 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:07,840 here is to protect as much open space and environmental areas as possible so 625 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,920 we are giving the option where if you preserve this area here I believe it's 626 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,920 30% you're given the option to lower or lessen your lot size in order to 627 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,760 accomplish that conservation or preservation and develop more of a 628 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,160 subdivision so much of what you see here versus one that's here where they 629 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:37,240 basically impacted the open space area that again the goal is to protect so 630 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,200 this is just an option it's not a requirement if someone wants to develop 631 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,760 with a cluster development they can and again that's something that this plan or 632 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,720 this code will have available chapter 8 which is the last chapter and that is 633 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,240 the definition section I think is one of the most important chapters in my 634 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:02,680 opinion as well in that in order to make decisions we have to know what they mean 635 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:08,460 what what each term means and so we're making sure that every use that you have 636 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:12,680 identified or we've identified there's a definition so we know what we're talking 637 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,040 about every term that we refer to that may not be clear we want to make sure we 638 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,200 define and provide a definition for so that's included in this chapter sub 639 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,440 chapter a couple more slides here now I'm done and getting ready for all those 640 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,560 questions the opportunity for input is still open we're gonna receive input 641 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,720 until April 23rd and probably even past that so there is there is there's plans 642 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:47,160 on approving or considering the development code as one item and then 643 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,880 the zoning map as a different item but the point is we're still welcoming input 644 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:59,720 from the public so what happens here after adoption we'll have a period we'll 645 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,680 have an adoption date hopefully April 23rd and we'll have an effective date 646 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:11,400 and word saying is October 1st so between April 23rd and October 1st the 647 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:18,120 development community has an opportunity to use the old code or use the old the 648 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:24,280 new code whatever that is but have to stick to one or the other it also gives 649 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,600 us an opportunity to visit and see if there's any changes that we may have 650 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:34,720 missed or any proposals that was approved that we may have to rein back a 651 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,320 little so this gives us the opportunity to do that this document is a living 652 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,400 document it's to be updated you know again I don't know how many of you all 653 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,440 have been part of the 2002 update back in 2002 when when they did this back then 654 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,760 but I understand that there were a lot of changes since you know then so I 655 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,440 anticipate that hopefully not as many but we hope that we have addressed as 656 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,320 much as we can with this version and we know that there's going to be additional 657 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:08,680 updates or amendments coming forward with that that concludes my presentation 658 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,720 I'll be happy to any answer any questions and our consultants here that 659 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,520 have been working on this document are also present so if I can't answer that 660 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:24,640 hopefully they can any questions all right anybody no questions about letters 661 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,080 so 662 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:39,840 any change in the parking per bedroom in this new development code so they the 663 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:46,920 parking standards was was approved back in May of 2018 and so so it was carrying 664 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,600 that forward so this has not changed anything I can tell you that is with 665 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:58,800 that adoption and I can make any multifamily development has to provide a 666 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:04,120 space for each bedroom over two unit over two bedrooms or more so if you're 667 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:11,360 one-bedroom unit it's 1.25 bedroom spaces if you're a two-bedroom or more 668 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,440 you have to provide a parking space for each bedroom in addition if you've got 669 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,960 ten units or more you have to provide a visitor parking of ten percent of the 670 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,740 total required parking so we're trying to address parking by making sure that 671 01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:33,760 these multifamily developments that have more than ten units provide not only 672 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,280 parking for each bedroom if they're two bed two units two bedrooms per unit or 673 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,380 more and for visitor parking that does that help or I don't know where you're 674 01:02:44,380 --> 01:02:52,320 going with that one if that was the question you had great thank you Rana 675 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:58,920 you mentioned the term grow compactly and sometimes which is a great idea but 676 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,600 sometimes the code and the requirements don't quite match up with planting 677 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:09,800 trees and fire codes and the more parking spaces so like sometimes you want 678 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,200 to be downtown but then you supposed to plant ten trees on a lot when a lot of 679 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,080 urban areas you don't have that kind of thing so was that addressed right and I 680 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,480 think that slide that showed the Taylor development standards you know for 681 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:27,640 downtown for corridors and for periphery I think we we have addressed that in 682 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,160 making sure that there are options so the options that we're talking about if 683 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,360 you're in the downtown and you're required to provide this much of say 684 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,560 screening or landscaping well there are other options that you can do to meet 685 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,160 that requirement tailored to your site 686 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:58,120 well and I was trash fire truck access all those kind of things that you don't 687 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,360 have room because the lots are smaller and you're trying to build up and all 688 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:06,280 that stuff so right and then just a point again try to help make this stock 689 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,840 in a little bit more concise a lot of those design standards for solid waste 690 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:19,440 and for fire are covered either in a fire code or a criteria manual so it's 691 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,640 if it's in here and it belongs in their criteria manual it was it was removed 692 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,840 and we've been placed into a criteria manual so to address your question yes 693 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,720 there there are some standards that I know our solid waste folks and our 694 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,080 engineering department our fire department have already updated to 695 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:40,000 reflect those concerns about access by widening the street requiring wider 696 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:46,080 streets so yes that's been done citizen participate more citizen 697 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,520 participation which always sounds good except if I'm trying to do something my 698 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,400 property and you're inviting a lot of more people to tell me what to do on my 699 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:58,160 property would you expand sure we mean by that we we just want to make sure 700 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,120 people are aware of what's being proposed it would it would only be and 701 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:10,000 it's not a requirement it is a encouragement recommendation is that 702 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,080 different like I notice it's on my SUP process and preliminary plot process you 703 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,120 have to have citizen input different than having a neighborhood meeting that 704 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,680 essentially that's what it is it's just another name for neighborhood meeting we 705 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,240 call it citizen participation and it should just be for any application that 706 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,640 requires a public hearing or a significant application such as a zoning 707 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:39,520 case or a specific use a couple of the new terms or uses you have in there's 708 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,400 short-term rental yes and accessory dwelling so short terms I like somebody 709 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:50,880 trying to do Airbnb and Airbnb yes and how do you are we trying to I don't know 710 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:57,000 how you would know what somebody's using one or house for and they're trying to 711 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,400 keep people from doing that no we're trying to do is trying to make sure we 712 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,560 understand where they are and we're gonna require them to register the 713 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:12,640 short-term rentals so and so that's that's where units are being leased a 714 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,800 full unit those are what we're considered for less than 30 days that's 715 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,340 the definition again going back to the definition it's important to know what 716 01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:26,200 these are and so the definition has a clear definition for it so less than 30 717 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:33,960 days and a lease of a unit you know for for whatever time period and what the 718 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,920 goal is is we're trying to make sure we understand and where they are and 719 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:43,840 register them as well as apply some standards now noise is going to be 720 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,200 covered under the noise standards other you know code related stuff are going to 721 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,400 be covered in other ordinances we're just trying to put a place in a use in 722 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,120 their development code so we have a way of understanding where they are and how 723 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,680 they're treated 724 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:06,080 I mean we'll be able to tax them for renting the room and that that's the 725 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:13,000 plan yes sir that can wait a moment yeah yeah we're missing a lot of taxes from 726 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,280 one I understand because we don't do that currently 727 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:21,200 it's not that wouldn't apply to someone just renting a room it's a unit it's it 728 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:28,140 would be a right that's the difference right so when you're renting out the 729 01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:32,000 full unit a full house of the entire house that's that would be concerned you 730 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,120 know like an ARB but if you're say renting and if it's a longer than 30 731 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,280 days it's it's a different category again going back to the definitions we 732 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:45,040 want to make sure that they meet that definition I don't know that's one of 733 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,800 the things that wasn't in the 2002 code you had to deal with correct and so 734 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:57,240 we're treating that as something that we need to anybody else any questions on 735 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,880 those letters I thought where's a talking about the letters that were mailed out 736 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:19,400 yes sir everybody get one okay do you have you've been noticed so this 737 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,880 definitely seems much more user-friendly it sounds like the way that you've 738 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:29,120 reached out to the Development Alliance and other groups to get input I've just 739 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,400 I'm really impressed with the comprehensive study and implementation so 740 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:44,200 appreciate that appreciate that thanks wrong thank you all right our next item 741 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,840 is any concluding items before we go into a closed meeting and I would like 742 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:55,080 to add for discussion an agenda item at our next scheduled meeting to discuss 743 01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:02,560 our downtown economic development task force that's that's a subcommittee so to 744 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:10,280 speak or task force of this board as Jill mentioned earlier she was needed to 745 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:16,840 resign from that position we've always had somebody that's chaired that 746 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:22,080 committee from this board or co-chaired that that's not anything that's written 747 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:30,020 down and so given that we're winding down the downtown grant process from that 748 01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:34,200 board I think it would just be a good and given the vacancy it would be a good 749 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:42,040 time for us to discuss the purpose a little concerned that the people that 750 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,520 are have been been involved in that stay involved in the city process well that's 751 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,200 through this through this board or some other board or what's going on there I 752 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,720 just think it'd be good time to discuss what what we expect as a board or city 753 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,400 to keep those folks involved and how they're going to move forward so if we 754 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:08,080 could do that please does anybody have anything else they want to visit about 755 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:17,520 we had preliminaries preliminarily scheduled a joint City Council EDP board 756 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:25,160 meeting for June 3rd we're going to postpone that until we have new staff 757 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,800 hired and in place think that'd be a probably a wise thing to do so stay 758 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:38,680 tuned on that anybody else have anything that we need to visit about in line film 759 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:44,200 festivals started yesterday so that's bringing a lot of folks in all right we 760 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:54,000 need to go into a closed meeting at 12 14 p.m. to discuss EDP 19 - 18 761 01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:00,080 receiver report whole discussion and offer a financial incentive to Sally 762 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,000 Beauty company