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 Good morning and welcome to this meeting of Dent City Council.

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 It is Saturday, August 5th, 9 a.m.

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 We do have a quorum, so I'll call the meeting to order just to go over the lay of the land.

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 We have two items and a closed session item looks like.

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 So the first is key focus area, council key focus areas.

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 Then we have the budget discussion.

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 And so I'm going to press for questions early on the budget thing.

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 We'll go through the strategic specific priorities, that sort of thing.

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 But we need to front load questions for specific department heads either immediately after

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 that because we're going to let that staff go.

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 So we're not going to keep them sitting in City Hall hoping or wondering or just in case

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 there's questions.

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 So formulate your questions over the next couple hours.

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 If you don't have them already, get them in before we break.

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 Those staff members that have to respond to that can then use that break to respond to

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 those.

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 But then after that, we're going to let staff go enjoy their Saturday and get through the

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 rest of the budget presentation, city's manager staff will answer what they need to.

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 Otherwise, you'll get your answer after that.

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 But the goal is not to keep city staff and department heads waiting for their entire

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 Saturday.

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 And so you've been warned.

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 So get those in.

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 All right.

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 So first item, item A, ID 231341, receive report, hold discussion regarding city council

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 focus areas and specific priorities for FY 2023, 2024.

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 Good morning, mayor and council.

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 I'm Amy Kaslik.

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 I'm the city's chief strategic officer.

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 And I'm here this morning to provide you with an overview and update on the city's strategic

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 plan as well as council priorities.

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 We will then be seeking input on council priorities for fiscal year 2024.

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 So as part of today's overview, I want to do a bit of a refresher on strategic planning

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 for the benefit of our newer council members.

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 So council created the current focus areas a little over a year ago, it was in July of

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 last year.

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 These focus areas really do set the foundation for the city's strategic plan and solidifies

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 council's vision of how we best meet the needs of the community.

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 So our key focus areas are pursue organizational excellence and collaborative and respectful

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 leadership, enhance infrastructure and mobility, strengthen community and quality of life, foster

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 economic opportunity and affordability, support healthy and safe communities, and promote

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 sustainability and the environment.

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 Along with these key focus areas, there are 16 strategic objectives, which you see here

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 on the city's organizational strategy map.

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 Updates that were provided to council on October 11th of 2022, and then January 24th and March

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 7th of this year.

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 We also provide quarterly updates of council's priorities in the Friday report.

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 So to talk a little bit about the benefits of strategic planning, the first is that it

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 helps set the city's direction and priorities.

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 So it really helps us to define where we want to be tomorrow and the steps that we need

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 to take to get there.

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 Having a strategic plan helps create focus.

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 It focuses the organization on getting results and what we need to do to meet the demands

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 of today as well as the next few years.

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 Another benefit of strategic planning is it helps the entire organization align around

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 common goals and in doing so can also help to break down silos.

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 One of the other things that's been said is that employees who understand how they contribute

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 to the strategic plan and how they contribute to the success of an organization are far

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 more satisfied and far more engaged in the work that they do.

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 Another benefit of strategic planning is that it simplifies the decision-making process

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 so that as new ideas, new initiatives are brought forward and we're not sure whether

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 or not we should implement those new ideas, we can look at our strategic plan for guidance.

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 Strategic planning helps inform the budget, so it helps us prioritize resource allocations

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 and how we budget our funds to make sure that we are budgeting in ways that help us move

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 our goals forward.

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 Strategic planning improves an organization's self-awareness.

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 As part of any strategic planning process, there's a lot of research, a lot of discussion

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 that goes into that.

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 There's an environmental scan, a SWOT analysis.

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 There's input from the community.

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 One of the things that you heard last year were the results of the community survey as

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 an input into the conversations that you had around strategic planning.

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 Lastly, and really at its core, it's an important management tool.

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 It helps to create a roadmap and create accountability across the organization in achieving our goals.

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 So when we look at the strategic plan as a process, it's typically the role of counsel

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 to set the goals and the objectives, and in our case, we call those key focus areas.

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 Key focus areas really need to be basically the broad outcomes that we're looking to achieve,

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 and then once those have been set, we create the objectives that help move those forward.

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 Then it is typically city management's job to begin creating initiatives along with aligned

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 milestones to help us achieve those goals that counsel has set.

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 And then lastly, we need to continue to monitor and report on the results of our strategic

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 plan.

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 So looking at our planning model, the comprehensive plan, which is Denton 2040, is the document

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 that really needs to be informing our strategic plan.

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 I was sharing this graphic with Gary Packen yesterday, and he said, "Oh, so the comprehensive

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 plan is the mothership of planning," and I thought, "That's a really great way to put

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 that, right?

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 That's a great way to see that."

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 So that's basically a 20-plus year plan that, again, informs the strategic plan, which is

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 seen as a mid-range plan that is three to five years.

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 And then from there, strategic plan both drives budget and is moderated by budget.

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 And all of this together helps us to enable strategic management.

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 There's a whole little graphic at the bottom of other planning considerations, and we'll

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 get to those later in the presentation.

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 So strategic management, that final piece of the puzzle to bring it all together, is

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 something that I've been working on since joining the organization 11 months ago today.

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 Yeah, 11 months ago today.

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 So in moving that forward, we worked to develop the strategy map that you saw earlier, and

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 then began identifying initiatives across the organization that support council's key

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 focus areas.

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 To date, we have 119 initiatives that are in support of moving those key focus areas

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 forward.

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 As part of that, we've created the dashboard to help track progress in achieving those

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 key focus areas.

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 Our public facing dashboard was launched on March 7th of this year, and again, for the

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 benefit of our newer council members, I'm going to go ahead and just jump into the dashboard

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 real quick and do a quick overview of that.

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 So this is the city's strategic plan dashboard, built not only to enhance accountability,

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 but really to offer greater transparency to the community.

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 So you'll see in this basically any device you look at this on, by the way, it'll resize

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 to fit your device.

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 I do like that feature.

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 It also is able through Google Translate to translate into 22 different languages.

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 So we start out with a brief description of the city of Denton of our strategic planning

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 process.

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 And then if you want to see any highlights from 2022, which is prior to this dashboard

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 being built, you can link to our 2022 highlights.

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 And then we go into each of the six key focus areas.

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 So what you see here is a progress bar that tells us the progress of that particular key

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 focus area.

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 And then we have these status bars.

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 So green is on track, yellow is a minor disruption, which means something has happened that may

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 or may not impact the timely completion of an initiative.

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 There's red, which red means that there has been a disruption that absolutely will impact

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 timely completion of the project.

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 Purple is upcoming.

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 So we've got a few in the system that are set to begin at a future date.

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 Blue is complete.

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 And then we don't have any with a status of pending, but sometimes you'll see gray there,

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 which just means we have a status update that's due.

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 Before I dive into any one of these, just want to show you again that legend.

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 And then very quickly share that actually since March 7th, we've launched a couple of

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 more dashboards.

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 So we have one that highlights the American Rescue Plan Act.

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 There's the Economic Development Strategic Plan, a link to the city's open data portal,

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 as well as the Library Strategic Plan.

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 Those dashboards, particularly ARPA, ED, and the Library Strategic Plan all function pretty

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 much in the same way as what I'm showing you here.

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 So we're going to take a closer look at Strengthen Community and Quality of Life.

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 So when we look at this particular key focus area, we've included some metrics that have

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 to do with the community survey results as they relate to strengthening community and

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 quality of life.

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 We then see that we have two strategic objectives that are aligned with this particular key

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 focus area, and so we see the progress and status again for each of these strategic objectives.

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 And then again, we can take another dive deeper and we see all of the initiatives that are

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 aligned with and support this particular key focus area.

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 If we want to take one more look, we can click on a specific project and we can see the latest

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 update on that project.

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 Another good thing about this dashboard, let's say you want to know about a very specific

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 project and you're not quite sure where it is, but you know it exists.

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 Let's say you want to look at an item on City Hall.

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 First I have to spell, right?

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 All right.

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 So then if we want to know what the latest is on renovating City Hall West or exploring

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 a plan for a new City Hall, you can click on either one of those.

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 And again, you get the latest update related to that particular initiative.

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 Any questions on this dashboard?

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 Any questions?

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 Nope.

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 Thank you.

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 You're welcome.

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 Go back to the presentation.

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 Yes, ma'am.

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 Certainly.

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 I just, I have to say this and it's in public.

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 So we didn't have a chief strategy officer and I think several of you, particularly two

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 I know that really focus on data, well several of you do, knew that we were sorely missing

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 this.

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 We were.

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 To align a budget with those initiatives is one of the most important things a city can

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 do and then also to be able to show not only our council, but the public, the progress

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 that we're making.

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 I just want to say a big thank you to Christine because she hired Amy, but also to Amy.

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 We stole her from Irving where she did a tremendous job there and I'm just, it just pleases me

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 because she's really in 11 months done an amazing job, but that's also with the support

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 of the department heads who've entered this information and really stayed on top of it.

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 So you know, for me, I own as good as the people who work with me and I'm very proud

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 to have these people that are doing such a great job.

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 Excellent.

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 Well said.

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 I agree.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 So to continue our focus on our strategic plan where it is applicable, you'll now see

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 key focus areas referenced on agenda items to show where that alignment exists.

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 That report that you see in the middle, those are, that is a quarterly priority report.

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 You would have received one in the Friday report just a couple of weeks ago for this

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 last quarter.

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 And then the other thing that we're working on is creating data analytics dashboards for

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 every department in the organization.

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 So these dashboards are really helpful in telling our story, being better informed,

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 identifying opportunities, highlighting successes, and just in general, shining a light on performance

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 across the organization.

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 So these dashboards are the result of a series of workshops that each department participates

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 in that look at defining that overall purpose of the department, identifying key priority,

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 I'm sorry, core services, and then really looking at a family of metrics for each of

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 those core services, looking at inputs, outputs, outcomes, and efficiencies.

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 So we've published so far parks, marketing communications, and then solid waste and recycling.

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 We also have the airport animal services, capital projects, engineering, and public

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 works, customer service, environmental services and sustainability, finance, library, and

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 technology services under construction.

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 So there's been a bit of a delay.

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 It's taken a little bit longer than I'd hoped, but I also have been serving as interim finance

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 director, but we're getting quite a few of those now across the finish line.

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 Fortunately, I now have a graduate intern who's been helping out for the last couple

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 of months and is doing a really great job on helping us to move those other departments

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 forward.

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 But I want to take a quick look at one of those so just you can kind of get the sense

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 of the look and the feel of these dashboards.

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 So this is Parks and Recreation's dashboard, again we start out with that overall statement

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 about the department, make that a little bigger for everybody, we start out with an overall

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 description of the department and then we go into their core services.

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 So their first is provide recreational, educational, and wellness opportunities, give a brief description

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 of that, what that means, what the desired outcomes are for that core service, and then

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 we start looking at the actual performance metrics that they've identified.

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 So this first one is visitors at recreation centers.

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 So one of the things with this software, if we just want to look at, let's say we just

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 want to look at the Denton Civic Center, we can actually turn off all of the other data

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 points and then look at a single one of those.

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 We see that in October of 2022, there was basically what at that point in time I would

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 call an anomaly, so we're able to put in comments to explain why that anomaly exists and what's

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 kind of behind the numbers that we're seeing here.

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 We also have, and any time that we have survey data, whether that's from a point of service

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 survey or community survey, we always want to make sure that department dashboards include

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 the voice of the customer, and that voice of the customer is helping to be a part of

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 driving performance.

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 So again, we've got targets built into the system where applicable.

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 I always make sure to tell departments, not every metric has to have a target.

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 If you're a fire department, you're not looking to have a certain number of structure fires,

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 right?

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 But we want to talk about having targets where targets make sense and looking at benchmarks

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 and so forth.

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 So this is kind of, again, the overall look and feel of the dashboards that we are creating

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 for the departments.

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 Parks has a lot of data, but they use that data.

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 And then, again, we list out all of their core services.

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 Another thing that I like about this is that we're able to include some hyperlinks.

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 So if you're looking at this particular metric about the 10-minute walk and you want to know

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 what that means, why is a 10-minute walk important, we're able to provide users of the dashboard

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 additional information on the 10-minute walk program.

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 Any questions on these?

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 >> I'll hand it over to Councilman Meltzer.

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 >> Thank you.

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 And this is a question I always ask, Amy, so I'm just kind of catching up.

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 And I know right now that these dashboards are for your office in strategic planning

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 and finance and the department heads.

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 Can you update us when we're going to get Council love ability to play with dashboards

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 and then any estimates on ETAs when there's going to be a public-facing version?

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 >> So we actually talked about that this week, and I wanted to have departments have a little

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 bit of time in the dashboard to make sure we, you know, worked our way through it.

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 And I know that solid waste and recycling wants to go ahead and get theirs out.

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 Parks has expressed interest.

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 So the ones that we have already will be pushed out fairly soon.

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 And then ultimately, I want to have more of annualized dashboards that then become a part

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 of the budget document that in Irving we did a hyperlink in our budget document so that

00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:01.240
 the public has that access through those budget documents as well.

00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.400
 But, yes, the goal is to push these out publicly.

00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.840
 >> Sort of in the next quarter kind of thing?

00:19:06.840 --> 00:19:10.800
 >> I think with the ones that we already have in place, that's definitely doable.

00:19:10.800 --> 00:19:11.800
 >> Okay.

00:19:11.800 --> 00:19:12.800
 Thank you.

00:19:12.800 --> 00:19:13.800
 >> Mm-hmm.

00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:14.800
 >> Councilman Meltzer?

00:19:14.800 --> 00:19:15.800
 >> Yeah.

00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:16.800
 First, wow.

00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:17.800
 Bravo.

00:19:17.800 --> 00:19:22.520
 I mean, this is right on target for like best practices.

00:19:22.520 --> 00:19:29.240
 One way I've seen organizations fail is they're good on the monitoring, you know, the measuring,

00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.800
 maybe medium on the monitoring, but the missing piece is sometimes alerting.

00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:40.420
 So is there an automated path when things are nearing or exceeding target that there's

00:19:40.420 --> 00:19:44.560
 an auto-escalation to the right parties for visibility?

00:19:44.560 --> 00:19:47.000
 >> That's a great question.

00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:54.280
 There is that capability in the system to kind of turn metrics to certain color if you're

00:19:54.280 --> 00:19:56.280
 kind of hitting different thresholds.

00:19:56.280 --> 00:19:58.120
 It's certainly something to look at.

00:19:58.120 --> 00:20:00.920
 It's not something that we've implemented so far.

00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:08.080
 I do, as we get these built out across the organization, my goal is at that point to

00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:14.220
 put in a more formal process for performance review, whether that's part of CMO meetings

00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:18.280
 with directors or separate meetings where, you know, we at least have some members of

00:20:18.280 --> 00:20:22.040
 the executive team in those meetings and are reviewing that work.

00:20:22.040 --> 00:20:26.560
 That's really a standard practice in performance excellence is you have those types of reviews

00:20:26.560 --> 00:20:28.200
 around your performance data.

00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:34.520
 >> Yeah, you know, most of these aren't, like, time-sensitive like that, but just to underscore

00:20:34.520 --> 00:20:39.240
 the point, what you want to avoid is a situation where something's blowing up, and we look

00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:43.920
 at it and we go, huh, turns out everything was red, but nobody was looking at it.

00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:44.920
 Okay.

00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:46.960
 >> Any other questions?

00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:48.160
 Okay.

00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.160
 Thank you.

00:20:51.160 --> 00:21:03.240
 So now that you've had a kind of general overview of strategic planning and of the city's approach

00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:08.280
 to performance management, I want to take a closer look at each of the six key focus

00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:12.080
 areas and council priorities.

00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:22.600
 So attached to the agenda for today, there was also a report of the 119 initiatives aligned

00:21:22.600 --> 00:21:29.160
 with our key focus areas, sharing with you the status and the progress of each of those.

00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:35.400
 So you do have that to give you a bit more detail because 119 initiatives is not something

00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.880
 we probably want to line out and discuss every single one of those at today's meeting, but

00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:45.080
 I do want to cover the high points of each of the key focus areas.

00:21:45.080 --> 00:21:48.800
 So the first one is pursue organizational excellence, again, in collaborative and respectful

00:21:48.800 --> 00:21:50.560
 leadership.

00:21:50.560 --> 00:21:59.240
 So the overall progress for this particular key focus area, and as it relates to initiatives

00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:03.640
 that are currently in the system, we're at 51%.

00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:09.760
 Four of the 24 council priorities actually fall under this key focus area.

00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:15.560
 And I will say with the report that you have as well as this data, this is as of the updates

00:22:15.560 --> 00:22:18.520
 that were due July 15th.

00:22:18.520 --> 00:22:26.000
 So with the comp and classification study, as of July 28th, that is now complete.

00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:33.160
 So on that next update, it will then move to a status of complete.

00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:40.300
 Of the 30 initiatives that are aligned with this key focus area, six of those are complete,

00:22:40.300 --> 00:22:43.120
 and then five are substantially complete.

00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:51.520
 And again, we can move that class and comp one over to that complete portion of the presentation.

00:22:51.520 --> 00:22:58.080
 The initiatives in this particular category are really aimed at developing and retaining

00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:02.240
 talent and being the employer of choice.

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:10.080
 The rollout of the new value statements also falls under this particular key focus area.

00:23:10.080 --> 00:23:13.080
 Any questions on this one?

00:23:13.080 --> 00:23:18.280
 >> Do you -- there are questions -- do you want to take them each?

00:23:18.280 --> 00:23:22.100
 I'll just -- everyone just be mindful, right?

00:23:22.100 --> 00:23:23.100
 Questions and answers.

00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:24.100
 >> Okay.

00:23:24.100 --> 00:23:25.100
 >> But Mayor Pro Tem.

00:23:25.100 --> 00:23:28.080
 >> Yeah, mine is short and generic.

00:23:28.080 --> 00:23:32.720
 >> I -- and it kind of relates to Counselor Meltzer's question.

00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:39.320
 For these ones where we've given them a status of track, upcoming, complete, disruption,

00:23:39.320 --> 00:23:42.780
 how -- or is that just a count?

00:23:42.780 --> 00:23:44.200
 What's the threshold for some of those?

00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:49.160
 I'm a little lost as to how we're following along the completion.

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.560
 Anyway, I'll shut up and let you answer the question.

00:23:52.560 --> 00:23:58.440
 >> So it's a designation that the owner of the initiative provides as to whether or not

00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:01.840
 they're on track, whether or not there's been disruption.

00:24:01.840 --> 00:24:06.480
 If there's disruption, we do want them to include a reasoning behind that disruption

00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.760
 so that we understand that, you know, when we're looking at an update for the initiative,

00:24:10.760 --> 00:24:12.080
 what's going on.

00:24:12.080 --> 00:24:19.240
 But that is a designation that is assigned by the owner of the initiative.

00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.520
 >> And so it's not automatically updated, it's updated by the data owner?

00:24:22.520 --> 00:24:23.520
 >> Yes.

00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:24.520
 >> Okay.

00:24:24.520 --> 00:24:25.520
 All right.

00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:26.520
 Thank you.

00:24:26.520 --> 00:24:27.520
 >> Yes.

00:24:27.520 --> 00:24:28.520
 >> Any other questions?

00:24:28.520 --> 00:24:29.520
 Thank you.

00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:31.960
 >> The next one is Enhanced Infrastructure and Mobility.

00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:38.600
 Overall, we are on track with this one with 63% progress.

00:24:38.600 --> 00:24:45.200
 There are 18 initiatives that fall under this particular key focus area and includes four

00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.920
 of Council's priorities.

00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:53.560
 They are improving capital project planning and communication, which is substantially complete,

00:24:53.560 --> 00:24:59.640
 renovating City Hall West, constructing public safety facilities, and then exploring a plan

00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.280
 for a new City Hall.

00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:10.280
 So when looking at the initiatives a little bit closer, there are three under this key

00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:17.200
 focus area that are now complete, 15 continue to be active initiatives, completed our developed

00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:22.760
 roadway funding strategy, review and update development criteria, manuals and specifications,

00:25:22.760 --> 00:25:27.820
 and develop a municipal utility district policy.

00:25:27.820 --> 00:25:34.120
 You'll also see three of your key focus areas listed under the substantially complete section

00:25:34.120 --> 00:25:40.360
 for this particular key focus area.

00:25:40.360 --> 00:25:45.080
 Next we look at foster economic opportunity and affordability.

00:25:45.080 --> 00:25:53.480
 There are 13 initiatives assigned to this particular key focus area and it houses seven

00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.680
 Council priorities.

00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.400
 Also listed here is the implementation of the economic development strategic plan that

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:06.420
 was identified as a priority by Council last year.

00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:10.640
 Because it's kind of its own separate plan, we did give it a place to live in the dashboard

00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:17.000
 and you saw that earlier, but within the economic development strategic plan there are 121 separate

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:23.560
 actions that that department is monitoring and reporting on as they move forward with

00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:28.240
 the economic development strategic plan.

00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:32.460
 The other -- another one on here I should note is the development of a public facility

00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:34.700
 corporation program.

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.200
 That too was listed as a Council priority last year.

00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:45.480
 However, when it was brought forward on May 2nd of this year, that did -- was not chosen

00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.620
 to move forward at this time.

00:26:49.620 --> 00:26:56.200
 So completed initiatives include the implementation of a rental repair grant program -- again,

00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.240
 we say it's completed because the department did the work to get it to Council, but develop

00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:04.600
 a public facility corporation program just with the understanding that that particular

00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:06.320
 one is not moving forward.

00:27:06.320 --> 00:27:12.980
 I think one of the key accomplishments though under this particular key focus area is the

00:27:12.980 --> 00:27:15.960
 opening of the Loop 288 facility.

00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:24.160
 Again, there are four completed initiatives in this key focus area and then nine that

00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:28.040
 are active.

00:27:28.040 --> 00:27:30.620
 Next we have strengthen community and quality of life.

00:27:30.620 --> 00:27:37.280
 There are actually 32 initiatives that are assigned to this particular key focus area

00:27:37.280 --> 00:27:44.720
 including three Council priorities.

00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.960
 This includes the library's new strategic plan which is now complete.

00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:50.120
 You saw the dashboard of that.

00:27:50.120 --> 00:27:53.280
 Now it's a matter of implementing that strategic plan.

00:27:53.280 --> 00:27:57.800
 The story walk along Fred Moore -- Fred Moore walking path.

00:27:57.800 --> 00:28:02.820
 And then the expansion of the Hartley field mountain bike trail where we added nearly

00:28:02.820 --> 00:28:06.680
 a mile to that particular trail.

00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.960
 There are quite a few initiatives in this category that are substantially complete.

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:19.940
 That includes the parks master plan creation and e-sports game room at the Denia recreation

00:28:19.940 --> 00:28:20.940
 center.

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:30.040
 And then parks accreditation which we should hear more on that in October.

00:28:30.040 --> 00:28:33.040
 Next we have support healthy and safe communities.

00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:39.960
 It consists of ten initiatives and at this point progress is at 47% for this key focus

00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.700
 area.

00:28:42.700 --> 00:28:49.080
 The four Council priorities including conducting a citywide speed study which is now complete.

00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:53.440
 Continuing the fire department accreditation which is also complete.

00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:59.960
 Police department is pursuing reaccreditation and I believe that is a four-year process

00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:03.000
 in them achieving that reaccreditation.

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:08.400
 And then lastly is enhance the police department's mental health division.

00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.500
 So in addition to the already completed Council priorities, DME has completed updating lighting

00:29:14.500 --> 00:29:16.040
 to LED.

00:29:16.040 --> 00:29:19.100
 This included upgrading over 9,000 lights.

00:29:19.100 --> 00:29:25.480
 And then technology services has completed an assessment of the CAD and police RMS which

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:32.800
 is also part of the information technology strategic plan.

00:29:32.800 --> 00:29:39.560
 The last key focus area is promote sustainability and the environment and 16 aligned initiatives

00:29:39.560 --> 00:29:45.000
 as well as two Council priorities which are create a wildlife corridor map and expand

00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.840
 the EV fleet and infrastructure.

00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:56.220
 Key accomplishments is the city's tree line USA designation from the Arbor Day Foundation

00:29:56.220 --> 00:29:59.040
 which was achieved in February.

00:29:59.040 --> 00:30:03.800
 Also included in the list of completed initiatives is the planning of trees at dog parts and

00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:09.200
 the installation of LED dark sky compliant athletic field lighting.

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:15.000
 There are three completed initiatives and 13 active initiatives under this key focus

00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.200
 area.

00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:29.720
 So in looking at the plan as a whole, approximately 64% of the initiatives within the city's strategic

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:37.880
 plan have been identified as being on track, 16% have experienced some level of disruption

00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.240
 and then 19% are complete and then we've got one in there that's set to start at a future

00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:43.240
 date.

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:49.920
 Overall, we are at 52% progress for the plan as a whole.

00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:57.800
 There are 23 completed initiatives but there are 96 remaining active initiatives and even

00:30:57.800 --> 00:31:04.380
 though we haven't officially done a call for new initiatives for next year, we've actually

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:09.720
 already identified more than 30 initiatives coming forward from the departments for next

00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.440
 fiscal year.

00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:18.600
 These include the resident ambassador pilot program, phase two of ADA improvements, implementing

00:31:18.600 --> 00:31:26.320
 the roadway funding strategy, executing the FY 2023 bond program and then the development

00:31:26.320 --> 00:31:32.340
 of an airport master plan.

00:31:32.340 --> 00:31:37.000
 So earlier I gave you a glimpse of other plans that exist in the organization as part of

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.800
 the overall planning process.

00:31:39.800 --> 00:31:47.360
 So when I first joined the organization last September, I set meetings with all the departments

00:31:47.360 --> 00:31:52.600
 just to really learn about their operations, their strengths, their opportunities, their

00:31:52.600 --> 00:31:58.360
 aspirations and one of the things that I asked for when meeting with the departments were

00:31:58.360 --> 00:32:04.720
 copies of any planning documents they had and at one point they were lined up across

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.360
 the back of my desk but this isn't even all of what I found.

00:32:10.360 --> 00:32:15.440
 There is some crossover between all of these plans you see here, just a tiny bit of crossover

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:22.600
 with the 119 initiatives that are being tracked in the strategic plan but at their lowest

00:32:22.600 --> 00:32:28.160
 level, so at the level at which departments would report on progress, status, results,

00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:35.600
 where they're at in terms of those initiatives, there are 616 initiatives, strategies, objectives

00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:41.960
 or actions, again that's the lowest level of planning.

00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:52.000
 Beyond that, in the parks master plan, not only are there 69 actions, there are 322 subactions,

00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.520
 many of which have their own set of milestones, yes, I know, I counted them.

00:32:57.520 --> 00:32:58.520
 That's how I felt too.

00:32:58.520 --> 00:33:01.600
 So there's a lot going on in the organization.

00:33:01.600 --> 00:33:09.360
 This doesn't even include the ADA action plan, a variety of master plans that are being worked

00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:15.560
 by the departments and I've shared this slide or a similar slide, this is the first time

00:33:15.560 --> 00:33:23.280
 I've actually put numbers to each of these plans but I've shared some of this in other

00:33:23.280 --> 00:33:28.200
 presentations and things that I've done, you know, just webinars and things like that.

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:35.400
 And one of the things that I always say is that Denton is a very hard working organization,

00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:41.680
 very hard working and I think part of the proof of that is that not a single one of

00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.800
 these plans, not a single one is a plan that someone put together and stuck on a shelf

00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:48.520
 and never looked at again.

00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:54.600
 The departments are working these plans, they are putting these plans into action.

00:33:54.600 --> 00:34:03.080
 And that, if nothing else today displays the volume, the sheer volume of work being done

00:34:03.080 --> 00:34:09.280
 in this organization, I hope that this drives that point home.

00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.240
 It's a lot and it's all in action.

00:34:15.240 --> 00:34:17.040
 And then there's still more, right?

00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:21.760
 And then some, there's still more, this is not all of it, there's still more, right?

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:27.760
 Very busy, very hard working organization, very dedicated to driving the plans that we

00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.800
 have forward.

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.080
 So now that I've covered where we are with strategic planning, including council priorities,

00:34:36.080 --> 00:34:40.200
 all those other plans that I showed you and I promise you I'm trying to find the best

00:34:40.200 --> 00:34:46.120
 way to mesh those all together in a way that makes sense, we do want to now take the opportunity

00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:52.400
 to invite you to share your thoughts on the work being done and more importantly, I think

00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.360
 we want to hear what your priorities are for the organization as we move into the next

00:34:58.360 --> 00:34:59.360
 fiscal year.

00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.360
 >> Okay.

00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:01.360
 Questions, comments?

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:02.360
 Anyone?

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:03.360
 Mayor Percival.

00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:08.840
 >> So I'm going to lead with a question.

00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:18.440
 We had a lot of them in priorities, you alluded to 600 and change projects and initiatives,

00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.320
 and we were at 52% completed for the 119.

00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.320
 >> For the 52% progress.

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.040
 >> Progress, for the 100.

00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:26.040
 >> Progress.

00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:32.760
 >> And some of these are multi-year projects, projects without really a defined end in some

00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:33.760
 cases.

00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.120
 >> Only two.

00:35:35.120 --> 00:35:42.000
 >> And so do we have a way of tracking the annualized year to year progress?

00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.000
 >> Yes.

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.000
 Yes, we do.

00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.000
 We do.

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.200
 And that is a function of the software.

00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:48.440
 So as we move into future years.

00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:55.180
 And I will say too, and I've seen it and I think it's going to take time and just really

00:35:55.180 --> 00:36:01.120
 for departments to acknowledge and understand that everything cannot happen in one year.

00:36:01.120 --> 00:36:05.520
 So really just working with people to understand like this is multiple years, it's not just

00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:09.240
 what can you accomplish in this one year, it's multiple years.

00:36:09.240 --> 00:36:15.320
 I always say if you give me dates that start October 1 in September 30, let's look at it

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:16.320
 a little bit more.

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:17.880
 And that's just something that's going to take time.

00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:23.160
 And I think when we close out this first year and departments go back and look at those

00:36:23.160 --> 00:36:28.840
 kind of those schedules they set, Lisa's probably been through this with me before, yes, she

00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:29.840
 knows.

00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.360
 And then we get to the point where like you know what, I do need to be a little bit more

00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.320
 realistic about what we can accomplish because you can't do it all at once and you can't

00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.000
 do it all in a year.

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.000
 You can't.

00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.760
 >> No, I specifically asked that question because again it goes to Councilor Meltzer's

00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:54.840
 question of how are we monitoring and if you throw it all in a big bucket it can be overwhelming.

00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.840
 And then you get executive dysfunction because you're like, ah.

00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:02.360
 >> Like I said I'm trying to like just bring it all together the best way possible.

00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.080
 But that's where it's just having more and more conversations about what is a realistic

00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:10.840
 timeline when we're looking at these different initiatives and setting realistic expectations.

00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.080
 And that's just something that's going to take a little bit of time.

00:37:13.080 --> 00:37:18.640
 But we do have those indicators that tell us where we're at and where we should be in terms

00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:20.960
 of progress on different initiatives.

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.880
 >> And then I noticed in terms of the question about priorities, and I mentioned this the

00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:33.360
 other day in the bond committee discussions with P&C or the Northeast area plans with

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.200
 P&C and then the bond as well.

00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:45.920
 We seem to have a through line of property acquisition and property management in almost

00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:46.920
 every project.

00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.720
 I mean I'm sort of looking at all the previous priorities and you know expected upcoming

00:37:52.720 --> 00:38:02.680
 ones that are mine and maybe other counselors and it seems like that -- I'll just say one

00:38:02.680 --> 00:38:08.240
 of my priorities is to really get in front of land acquisition, land management, land

00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:09.240
 control.

00:38:09.240 --> 00:38:14.320
 So I'll leave from there and then see the floor for other discussion.

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:18.640
 >> Any other questions, comments?

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:25.360
 >> I just want to understand, how do you want to work this next bit?

00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.760
 Is this where we're teeing up our individual priorities or do you have a different way

00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.760
 that they want to do?

00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:31.760
 >> Yes.

00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.520
 No, I think if you have stuff that you want to put forward for them to consider, great,

00:38:34.520 --> 00:38:36.320
 you heard kind of the list of things.

00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.040
 And so if you want to put forward things, but then also understand and that gives staff

00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:46.680
 time to again set whatever expectations they would put on those or if it's already covered

00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:51.320
 in stuff that we've not been presented, it's an opportunity to tell you it's already on

00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:52.800
 the list.

00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:59.480
 So yes, it's your thoughts and then those will be reviewed and you know feedback will

00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.800
 come on kind of where we are with that.

00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:02.800
 >> Okay.

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.040
 I don't know if -- he's seated at the floor.

00:39:07.040 --> 00:39:10.360
 >> He's spoken three times so I'm going to try to move it around a little bit.

00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:11.360
 So go right ahead.

00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.360
 >> Well, okay.

00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:17.920
 So some of these -- I mean, the notion of priorities suggests that not every action

00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:18.920
 is the priority.

00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:19.920
 Right?

00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.360
 You've got, you know, hundreds of actions.

00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:27.240
 So it's kind of the short list.

00:39:27.240 --> 00:39:28.640
 And some are clearly on there.

00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:36.960
 It would just be sort of underscoring, you know, this would be on my short list, progress

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.840
 on the affordable housing toolkit.

00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:46.480
 And if it's not going to be a PFC, and I remain -- I mean, I wasn't here when you all went

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:47.480
 through that.

00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.920
 I mean, if it's -- that could come back, but if it's not a PFC, maybe it's closer coordination

00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:59.840
 with DHA and DAHC as part of our -- I forget which area had like relationships around the

00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:05.360
 community so that we're maybe aligning better on kind of goals and vision.

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:11.360
 In the area of parks, I realize that some current members weren't here when council

00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.760
 adopted the Parks Master Plan.

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:20.000
 So you may not be coming in with a view that there's a deficit, but the Parks Master Plan

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:27.760
 that was adopted by council called for acquisition of 113 acres a year for 16 years, which was

00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:34.080
 heavily over-delivered last year, I acknowledge, but good to over-deliver in the early years

00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:38.840
 because there may not be anything to acquire in years seven, eight, nine, ten through 16.

00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:44.960
 So you know, I think whether it's through bond or some other way, you know, if you have

00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.360
 some point of view on how much we can acquire in the course of working with developers,

00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.840
 and then what's the deficit, and then how are we going to fund that?

00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.920
 You know, we should have some point of view.

00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.960
 I don't know that I specifically saw -- because you couldn't drill down into every single

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:07.400
 thing in 10 minutes or whatever, within economic development, I think there needs to be some

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:16.520
 urgency on downtown revitalization, particularly all the, you know, all the dark doorways around

00:41:16.520 --> 00:41:20.800
 the square and in the square area, you know, where are the partnerships or ways we can

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.120
 facilitate, you know, not to let that great light blink out.

00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:30.160
 So thank you for saying that, I meant to point out that we, at this point, determined that

00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:34.920
 the parks -- sorry, downtown master plan is likely the next to be marked a priority.

00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:35.920
 Yes.

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:36.920
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:43.080
 And that's a perfect place to put that thought, great.

00:41:43.080 --> 00:41:49.960
 And kind of on that theme, to me, maybe not to everyone, I would like to see continuing

00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:59.200
 efforts to kind of further empower neighborhoods and inclusion of neighborhoods in guiding

00:41:59.200 --> 00:42:00.560
 debt and development.

00:42:00.560 --> 00:42:05.760
 So where we have -- I already identified that there's a path needed for SAPs, you know,

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:10.200
 two years ago, I guess, we picked, you know, the ones -- the first three, but we need to

00:42:10.200 --> 00:42:16.640
 pick what the next ones are, and, you know, whether -- I know you all are investigating

00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:21.120
 whether -- how CBOs have worked elsewhere, whether that's a tool for us or not, we'll

00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:25.340
 see, but, you know, I think that would come under that heading of investigating how best

00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:34.840
 to engage neighborhoods to kind of end up with, you know, dentin -- dentin-y development.

00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:42.120
 Now, I'm going to get off in an area that I think is not exactly -- I think, believe

00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:46.920
 it or not, in any of what we've seen so far, maybe.

00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:58.320
 Our challenge in keeping up with hiring first responders has in part to do with the massive

00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:03.440
 call volume and the growth -- it goes with population, but it also has to do with estimates

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:09.060
 I've heard, casually and formally, of 30 to 60 percent of the call volume being driven

00:43:09.060 --> 00:43:18.280
 by mental health considerations, and there being a corresponding just void or close to

00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:26.640
 a void in resources on mental health, which is beyond what probably one city can do, but

00:43:26.640 --> 00:43:32.920
 I would -- just because of the sheer impact on budget, if nothing else, I would be interested

00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:39.260
 in prioritizing intercity -- you know, an intercity approach to mental health and substance

00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:45.560
 abuse treatment, you know, by coordinating with our counterparts in other cities, ideally

00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:47.480
 with the county, but not waiting on the county.

00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:52.040
 I've got a couple more here, Mayor.

00:43:52.040 --> 00:43:54.640
 I hope I'm okay, steaming forward.

00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:55.640
 Yeah.

00:43:55.640 --> 00:43:56.640
 Yeah.

00:43:56.640 --> 00:43:57.640
 Thanks.

00:43:57.640 --> 00:44:06.840
 Yeah, first I'll say, as in council previously, this clearly was not a priority of mine, but

00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:14.000
 it's the whole cannabis issue, but I felt that we productively addressed it with actions

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:19.480
 that then police chief and the magistrate were able to take at that time, but the voters

00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:24.320
 have clearly said they want something, and I think Councilmember Watts was blazingly

00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:31.840
 accurate and helpful in our last deliberation saying, okay, you know, the voters were presented

00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.440
 one proposition that was problematic and unvetted, but it had a worthy goal, and that, you know,

00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.440
 that particularly helpful was the thought that we just got -- we got to get creative.

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:47.080
 So I'd say just to be responsive to, you know, what the voters overwhelmingly indicated an

00:44:47.080 --> 00:44:52.040
 interest in, I would like us to put some attention to seeing what some of those creative approaches

00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:58.120
 might be that aren't problematic, that don't, you know, put police in a pickle and violate

00:44:58.120 --> 00:45:03.920
 state law or whatever, you know, the other concerns there may be, so some constructive

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:10.080
 approach that we can all get behind, including law enforcement.

00:45:10.080 --> 00:45:13.240
 I'm almost through.

00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:20.940
 I would like to revive the process that was going on, I guess, in 2022 or 2021 of seeing

00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:31.240
 if we can support or enable collaboration among groups that want to do a tiny home project.

00:45:31.240 --> 00:45:37.600
 In that -- next topic -- in that, we are a, you know, very much a festival town.

00:45:37.600 --> 00:45:39.240
 It's part of our kind of creative identity.

00:45:39.240 --> 00:45:40.680
 It helps economic development.

00:45:40.680 --> 00:45:46.680
 I think if you talk to people who try to do those festivals here, they tell you it's kind

00:45:46.680 --> 00:45:52.220
 of a sequence of hurdles and I'd love to see if we can create a kind of more festival-in-a-box

00:45:52.220 --> 00:46:01.240
 approach to make it easier for people to do it and kind of enable rather than have the

00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:02.760
 stance of restricting.

00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:09.000
 So streamline event sponsorship, which I know is somewhere in there.

00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.360
 Two more, then I'm done.

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:22.720
 When I looked at the slide about kind of partnerships across the community, it called to mind that

00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:32.160
 in a volunteer organization I'm involved with, we were looking at themes -- let me do this

00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:33.660
 more quickly.

00:46:33.660 --> 00:46:38.120
 We don't seem to have much concrete in the way of partnerships with the colleges and

00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:39.120
 universities.

00:46:39.120 --> 00:46:40.120
 It seems like a gap.

00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:41.120
 I don't even know what they should be.

00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:42.120
 We do.

00:46:42.120 --> 00:46:43.120
 Okay.

00:46:43.120 --> 00:46:44.120
 Great.

00:46:44.120 --> 00:46:45.120
 Terrific.

00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:46.120
 Terrific.

00:46:46.120 --> 00:46:47.120
 I didn't see it on the slide.

00:46:47.120 --> 00:46:48.120
 I'm like, wow, that's a gap.

00:46:48.120 --> 00:46:49.120
 It is there.

00:46:49.120 --> 00:46:50.120
 It's in --

00:46:50.120 --> 00:46:51.120
 Okay.

00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:52.120
 I believe it.

00:46:52.120 --> 00:46:53.120
 Totally believe it.

00:46:53.120 --> 00:46:58.400
 And just lastly, you know, ordinarily I'm very much interested in actionable policy

00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.700
 that turns into real things.

00:47:00.700 --> 00:47:06.080
 Very rarely do I want to do things that are sort of symbolic and just express values,

00:47:06.080 --> 00:47:12.400
 but I think in the current environment, you know, it wouldn't hurt to have some expression.

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:21.800
 Maybe it's just a resolution, but to reaffirm our -- the value we put on diversity, equity,

00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:28.240
 inclusion, it's a bit under threat in this state, but, you know, it's built into our

00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:34.480
 values, I would argue, and I think some kind of, you know, affirmation of that to our diverse

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:42.520
 community I think would be appropriate and, you know, important enough to bubble up to

00:47:42.520 --> 00:47:43.520
 the short list.

00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:45.840
 That's all I got for now.

00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.720
 All right.

00:47:47.720 --> 00:47:53.440
 Councilman Mahalo.

00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.920
 Thank you.

00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:04.200
 My priorities, my first three priorities are streets, streets, and streets.

00:48:04.200 --> 00:48:11.480
 I was pleased to have a meeting with the city manager earlier this week and the assistant

00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:19.760
 city managers, and we discussed what I think is a reasonable, sustainable idea to keep

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:26.320
 our -- to build -- to get our streets up to snuff and to keep them there in the future.

00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:33.420
 The implementing roadway funding, slide number 22, I appreciate that.

00:48:33.420 --> 00:48:36.520
 That is clearly my priority.

00:48:36.520 --> 00:48:40.800
 I'd also like to see a lot of emphasis placed on economic development.

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:49.080
 I think our police, fire, and emergency services is doing a fine job, but I always want to

00:48:49.080 --> 00:48:51.800
 keep that as a very, very important focus.

00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.800
 I appreciate it.

00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:53.800
 Okay.

00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:54.800
 Anyone else?

00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:55.800
 Councilman Byrd.

00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:56.800
 Good morning, everyone.

00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:15.960
 I have written down one thing that is sticking with me, and that is the family-oriented -- family-oriented

00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.800
 responsibility that we should have.

00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:29.840
 We are very proud of our education system, and we're very proud of our nightlife, and

00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:39.800
 we are proud of our trees, but somehow we're missing something in regards to our kids.

00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.040
 I know that our children do a lot of things with the ISDs, but whenever school is out

00:49:45.040 --> 00:49:52.720
 -- and I'm really focusing on maybe the middle school to high school kids that are out there

00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:54.360
 in the summertime.

00:49:54.360 --> 00:50:03.560
 So if we can find some kind of way to add that group into our growth pattern, then I

00:50:03.560 --> 00:50:06.560
 would appreciate that.

00:50:06.560 --> 00:50:11.300
 Then my other thing is, of course, DCTA and our travel.

00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:16.720
 I think we're missing a -- there's a big middle piece that's missing there to make sure that

00:50:16.720 --> 00:50:24.080
 everyone has an opportunity to travel throughout the city in the most -- in the easiest fashion

00:50:24.080 --> 00:50:25.280
 as possible.

00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:30.160
 If somebody is coming to our city council meetings and they're 90 years old and saying

00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:37.400
 that they have no good way of getting across town or they're being left, that bothers me.

00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.760
 So we want to make sure that we are connected with DCTA and put a little bit more pressure

00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.280
 on them to give us what we need.

00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:52.580
 And also downtown, downtown, not only economic development there, but downtown living and

00:50:52.580 --> 00:51:02.680
 downtown lifestyles should be on that track if we're doing that.

00:51:02.680 --> 00:51:04.520
 Thank you for the revitalization of downtown.

00:51:04.520 --> 00:51:06.040
 I was going to say that.

00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:13.520
 And also small business, I know that we talk small business, but I think there's still

00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:20.080
 a bit of red take there that's not allowing them to, you know, get up and get running

00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:22.240
 and get started.

00:51:22.240 --> 00:51:29.120
 And I think that if our city can be known as a group that will support small businesses

00:51:29.120 --> 00:51:34.640
 and because small businesses are so unique, they come with a lot of different vibes, and

00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:38.160
 we need to have places for everyone to appreciate.

00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:41.520
 Downtown, I did say downtown living.

00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:54.000
 So we also, I want to say something about a hotel boutique, you know, something about

00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:55.000
 that.

00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.280
 I think that may go into, that's for downtown, because we, all of our hotels are out on the

00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:00.720
 outskirts.

00:52:00.720 --> 00:52:05.920
 And then we're inviting people to come into our space and drink and be merry and have

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:06.920
 fun.

00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.760
 And then we're expecting them to get back in their car and drive over to the hotels.

00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:12.060
 And I just don't think that's right.

00:52:12.060 --> 00:52:14.560
 I think we need to close that gap on that.

00:52:14.560 --> 00:52:18.560
 So hopefully, that'll be something as a priority for us to look at.

00:52:18.560 --> 00:52:20.520
 And those are my things there.

00:52:20.520 --> 00:52:21.520
 Thank you.

00:52:21.520 --> 00:52:22.520
 Okay, thank you.

00:52:22.520 --> 00:52:23.520
 Anyone else?

00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:25.520
 Seeing, Councilmember McGee.

00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:32.800
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor, I appreciate what you all have, have listed as priorities without

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.040
 rehashing a couple of those because obviously we know that there are some priorities in

00:52:36.040 --> 00:52:39.560
 on all of our lists.

00:52:39.560 --> 00:52:44.440
 Mine is a little more specific than Councilmember Hollins' thinking in the way of economic development

00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:54.480
 with respect specifically with respect to incentives for our economic development partner.

00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:58.000
 So Wayne can have more tools that he needs.

00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:59.000
 Okay.

00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.000
 Anyone up?

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.480
 Councilmember Watts.

00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.400
 I think all my priorities could be surmised in the ones that have already been listed

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:13.400
 in the presentation.

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:19.680
 I mean, I don't know hundreds of them.

00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:26.680
 And I just want to address the one about the Prop B ordinance that Councilmember Meltzer

00:53:26.680 --> 00:53:28.680
 had mentioned.

00:53:28.680 --> 00:53:34.900
 I think that from what I've heard, and I could be wrong, that what's happening at the practical

00:53:34.900 --> 00:53:40.600
 level at the ground level on enforcement or when they get to a court proceeding or when

00:53:40.600 --> 00:53:47.400
 they get to court processes that right now doesn't mean it's always perfect, but it's

00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.720
 really exercising and trying to accomplish the goals that people, I think, the aspirations

00:53:52.720 --> 00:53:53.720
 that they had.

00:53:53.720 --> 00:53:58.280
 So I certainly continue, but I think in some ways that's already happening.

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:04.840
 And look, and as far as the parkland, 100 acres per year, we're going to see a presentation

00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:10.980
 after this about money because everything we've asked for takes money.

00:54:10.980 --> 00:54:13.840
 And so I guess what we're deciding is what do we want to spend our money on?

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:18.960
 Well, if that's what it comes down to, and I have to summarize it in two things.

00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.120
 For me, it's economic development.

00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:26.160
 We have very little economic development in this city right now of major jobs to come

00:54:26.160 --> 00:54:33.680
 in and bring forward opportunities for people not just to survive, but to thrive.

00:54:33.680 --> 00:54:36.080
 It's not happening.

00:54:36.080 --> 00:54:38.320
 And that's not a slam on staff.

00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:39.320
 That's not a slam on anybody.

00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:44.020
 It's just saying somehow we're either not getting the attention or there's something

00:54:44.020 --> 00:54:47.040
 big clouds surrounding us, and then it's affordable housing.

00:54:47.040 --> 00:54:53.040
 So when I hear these priorities and I hear what we all want, it eventually comes down

00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:55.000
 to we can have all the aspirations that we want.

00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:00.080
 Then it comes down to whoever's sitting in this seat pushing a button.

00:55:00.080 --> 00:55:04.160
 And on affordable housing, we had an opportunity to do that and we didn't do it.

00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:08.000
 And as far as working with the housing authority, we've tried to do that in the past and you

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.000
 were here.

00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.380
 And one of the big controversies when you and I were serving together was an affordable

00:55:12.380 --> 00:55:17.360
 housing project because we couldn't do anything because we didn't have any leverage other

00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:22.680
 than an entitlement that they were seeking.

00:55:22.680 --> 00:55:24.800
 If they didn't weren't seeking entitlement, we couldn't do anything.

00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.840
 So make sure that we're providing opportunity for people to make a good living so they can

00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:31.280
 afford to live here.

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:37.400
 Because if we don't bring in economic development, this is all just a waste of time, quite frankly.

00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:41.800
 And the reason I say that is this year we're going to see in the budget presentation a

00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.340
 billion dollars in new growth.

00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:49.960
 If I'm correct, if I read it correctly, a billion dollars and one of my questions I'm

00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:54.680
 going to send, pursuant to the mayor's instructions, is what's that breakdown?

00:55:54.680 --> 00:56:01.580
 That adds up to about 3.5 or something, three, four million dollars additional revenue.

00:56:01.580 --> 00:56:09.240
 So if we're doing things to stifle growth, we need to just know what that impact is.

00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:11.480
 Because what is that?

00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:18.880
 I think 40% of our new value, or I can't do the math that quickly, it's 2.5 is total,

00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:27.480
 a million, a billion, it's about probably 40% is new growth.

00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:33.680
 I'm hoping that we can continue to do something that provides new growth for good jobs that

00:56:33.680 --> 00:56:35.840
 continue to come in to the city.

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:40.640
 So all the things I want, or I think there are priorities for the community, for people

00:56:40.640 --> 00:56:43.640
 to actually thrive here, they're already up there.

00:56:43.640 --> 00:56:47.620
 We got parkland we can buy, we got 10 minute walk plans, we got all these things.

00:56:47.620 --> 00:56:53.880
 But it boils down to do we have the revenue to meet the needs that we have as priorities?

00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.400
 And that's going to be a decision that each individual council makes every year.

00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:05.600
 So I appreciate, well, first of all, I can't imagine how much work went into this presentation.

00:57:05.600 --> 00:57:07.200
 A tremendous amount of work.

00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:10.160
 And I thank you for your effort.

00:57:10.160 --> 00:57:12.480
 Because I think this helps us see it.

00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.480
 And to see what's happening.

00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.400
 I think sometimes people don't think we're doing anything.

00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.840
 The staff's just, we're just fighting fires, we're trying to just make sure everything

00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:25.460
 runs day to day, but no, they have a concerted, intentional, committed effort to bring about

00:57:25.460 --> 00:57:27.760
 the things that are important to this community.

00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:32.320
 So these are great.

00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:36.840
 When it comes down to voting, then we just need to make sure we're consistent with what

00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:37.960
 we want in our plan.

00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.400
 So I don't really have anything to add to this list.

00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:47.120
 I think it's a very comprehensive and a very good list, an aspirational list to really

00:57:47.120 --> 00:57:53.640
 provide the kind of living space in our community that people are really -- and I want to say

00:57:53.640 --> 00:57:54.640
 something about small business.

00:57:54.640 --> 00:57:56.600
 And this just came up a couple weeks ago.

00:57:56.600 --> 00:58:00.280
 And here, I'll be through.

00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.960
 This was in the TURS board meeting.

00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:07.360
 Where a gentleman came to ask for an incentive to revitalize a building in the TURS area

00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:08.360
 for the grant.

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.040
 Well, he expressed that he'd had one outside of the area that he couldn't get any help

00:58:13.040 --> 00:58:17.120
 on because it was -- it was outside the TURS area.

00:58:17.120 --> 00:58:18.120
 We can't do that.

00:58:18.120 --> 00:58:19.720
 And I've said that all along.

00:58:19.720 --> 00:58:24.800
 If we're -- I mean, if people have an opportunity to revitalize a small business building for

00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:29.000
 their small business outside of some area we've designated as this is the only place

00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.760
 we can do this, we've got to change that.

00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.080
 Because number one, it's not fair.

00:58:35.080 --> 00:58:36.800
 It's not equitable.

00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:42.240
 And it can help us with the properties around our community that need some new life.

00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:50.000
 And so I think if I had to have a priority, it would be to enlarge the -- what would we

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:51.000
 call it?

00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.000
 >> The area.

00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.480
 >> Well, I'm saying it's the whole city.

00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:59.680
 I mean, you know, that if you got -- that you have an opportunity to put in a grant

00:58:59.680 --> 00:59:04.960
 towards some funding source that would allow you to have the same kind of opportunity that

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:09.800
 we provide in the downtown TURS area, people, you know, what is it, downtown incentive grant

00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:13.600
 or downtown something grant, you'd think I'd know that.

00:59:13.600 --> 00:59:20.880
 The concept -- yeah, yeah, downtown reinvestment grant.

00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:25.040
 I think we need to have a dent in reinvestment grant.

00:59:25.040 --> 00:59:26.360
 So that would be the only thing.

00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.200
 And again, it takes money.

00:59:28.200 --> 00:59:30.240
 So that would be the only thing that I would have.

00:59:30.240 --> 00:59:32.160
 >> Maybe it would be like a hotel term.

00:59:32.160 --> 00:59:33.160
 They talk about compression.

00:59:33.160 --> 00:59:34.160
 Right?

00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:37.480
 So if you have a compression project in the city, ergo, you're saying you're going to

00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:44.560
 create a wave if you put this here, it will create a ripple effect and compress the market

00:59:44.560 --> 00:59:48.960
 or help the market or using music terms, maybe it's a sound wave or something.

00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:54.200
 >> Yeah, I think we just need to -- because when he was describing his -- the old Davis

00:59:54.200 --> 00:59:56.480
 bakery building is what he was in.

00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.240
 I remember going there to get donuts when I was in high school.

00:59:59.240 --> 01:00:00.240
 >> Those aren't healthy.

01:00:00.240 --> 01:00:02.560
 >> Well, I'm surprised we didn't have any out there.

01:00:02.560 --> 01:00:03.560
 I was disappointed.

01:00:03.560 --> 01:00:04.560
 But I'm just kidding.

01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:05.560
 No, I'm kidding.

01:00:05.560 --> 01:00:06.560
 I'm kidding.

01:00:06.560 --> 01:00:13.400
 So that was one of the examples like he had to do all that rehab on his own.

01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.800
 And that just didn't seem equitable to me.

01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.160
 And it's not that anybody is being -- it's not intentional.

01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:21.680
 I think it's just an oversight.

01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:23.240
 So that's what I'd put it there as a price.

01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:24.240
 I'll be quiet.

01:00:24.240 --> 01:00:25.240
 Mayor, I'm repeating myself.

01:00:25.240 --> 01:00:26.240
 Thank you.

01:00:26.240 --> 01:00:31.320
 >> Before I ask my question, I want to ask the mayor and the city manager procedurally

01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:36.240
 and it goes along with what we see Amy doing up here on the board is do you -- and we did

01:00:36.240 --> 01:00:37.680
 a little bit in the conversation.

01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:44.580
 Do you want us repeating so you get a sense of support or do you want to distribute it

01:00:44.580 --> 01:00:50.680
 later and let us tell what we supported -- because, I mean, I don't want to be redundant and say

01:00:50.680 --> 01:00:52.440
 the same things that other people are saying.

01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.040
 >> So she's going to take all your feedback, get your items there.

01:00:56.040 --> 01:00:57.040
 She's doing it right now.

01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:58.320
 You can see how she's putting these together.

01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.440
 She's eliminating any duplication.

01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.720
 Then she's going to go around and ask so you can vote.

01:01:03.720 --> 01:01:07.440
 So we don't have to do sticky notes because I know some of you hate the sticky notes.

01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.440
 >> Thank you for that.

01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:13.240
 >> I mean, we are like X on the sticky notes so that we can just go through them and as

01:01:13.240 --> 01:01:16.680
 you do, you all need to be thinking because she's aligning them right now and then she'll

01:01:16.680 --> 01:01:18.400
 go around and say, okay, we've got this one.

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:19.400
 What are your votes?

01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:20.400
 This one.

01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.400
 What are your votes?

01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:25.960
 >> I appreciate that, city manager, and Mr. Mayor, I might add then I'll eliminate any

01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.160
 duplicates that I had if I might add a couple because I only just said one in order to be

01:01:30.160 --> 01:01:31.160
 brief.

01:01:31.160 --> 01:01:35.280
 >> No, go ahead, right ahead, succinctly.

01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.640
 >> In order to give you a tone, I know you like to go last to get your thoughts.

01:01:38.640 --> 01:01:42.360
 I would like to offer you the opportunity to be in this mix first.

01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:47.480
 >> No, because I'm going to power through mine and nothing that I've -- mine is only

01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.440
 reactionary and new so there won't be any duplication for me.

01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:56.080
 It's just my insight on what we've heard so that I can get that out of the way and then

01:01:56.080 --> 01:02:01.480
 new stuff that I've reacted to based on just thoughts, listening to the discussion.

01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:02.840
 >> I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor.

01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.200
 Then I will add a couple things.

01:02:05.200 --> 01:02:10.840
 One thing that's come up in numerous discussions over the last little bit is I think we need

01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:17.280
 to -- it's already in our list but I think we need to raise the priority of some of the

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:27.040
 sustainability and economic development D.C. code changes, specifically things that -- electric

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:32.360
 vehicle ready, solar ready, some other things, you know, parking, some other things that

01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.000
 will incentivize economic development in this town and also sustainable economic development.

01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:44.320
 So I'd really like to work on code revisions and re-prioritize that up a little bit.

01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:52.280
 Then I think another area that we need to focus on is -- that's come up in a number

01:02:52.280 --> 01:03:00.360
 of conversations is it's been -- you generally do land management revisions about every -- you

01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.680
 know, starting every five years.

01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:04.760
 It's been about five years since we did our tree code.

01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:11.200
 So I'd like to re-prioritize our tree code to -- we haven't been talking about any revisions

01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:15.040
 on that and it's generally -- we focus on doing that every five years so I'm going to

01:03:15.040 --> 01:03:20.080
 put a pin in a 2024 tree code.

01:03:20.080 --> 01:03:30.200
 And then two more -- no, that's not going to happen if I'm missing anything about it.

01:03:30.200 --> 01:03:35.600
 And then one of the things I also know that's come up in the last few months across the

01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:44.560
 department is for our city employees, whether they -- the extent and the amount, particularly

01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:54.760
 for our public safety and employees of fire, police and animal services, whether the extent

01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:59.200
 to which they are providing -- and also probably in the utilities as well -- the extent to

01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:06.120
 which they're providing their own material, so I want to focus on sort of worker issues

01:04:06.120 --> 01:04:12.360
 or you can argue that, you know, we don't need to do that but if there's equipment needs

01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.440
 for our workers, they shouldn't be self-funding.

01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.120
 We shouldn't have teachers buy pencils.

01:04:16.120 --> 01:04:20.400
 We shouldn't have government employees buy their own materials.

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.680
 And then the other thing I would like to put a little pin in that hasn't already been said

01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:32.840
 is, you know, work on -- in the light of changes to the PUCT and ERCOT, I'd like to work on

01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:40.160
 our large-scale energy policy for the city in terms of the kinds of things that -- and

01:04:40.160 --> 01:04:43.840
 the reason I specifically bring this up is not that we have a bad one, but we are about

01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:52.000
 to release our CAAP and those are robust goals and that we approved, what, six months ago

01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:58.880
 or so, and I think we need to make sure that our energy policies and our economic development

01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.120
 are in line with those CAAP goals that we've already approved.

01:05:02.120 --> 01:05:06.080
 So I'd like to add those into the mix for things to consider.

01:05:06.080 --> 01:05:10.560
 And I'm sorry, what did you call those goals?

01:05:10.560 --> 01:05:15.560
 CAAP, Climate Action and Adaptation Plan.

01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:16.840
 Okay.

01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.640
 Okay, anything else?

01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:22.480
 Okay.

01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:23.480
 Councilmember Maltzer.

01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:28.640
 Yeah, actually just a question or maybe potentially a clarification for Councilmember Watts.

01:05:28.640 --> 01:05:35.480
 When you talk about the sort of opening up the reinvestment idea, is what you're looking

01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:43.120
 for something that would particularly target renovating or revitalizing older structures

01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:44.600
 wherever they are, whether they're downtown.

01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:48.760
 I mean, maybe that's a way to define it, if that's what you're after, because the example

01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:50.960
 you gave was that.

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:58.040
 Yeah, I mean, I think if we need to be that specific in the language, I think that's implied

01:05:58.040 --> 01:06:01.560
 or specific in our downtown language that, you know, there are certain things you need

01:06:01.560 --> 01:06:04.400
 to be doing or revitalizing.

01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:10.080
 So I'm open, I'm just saying we need to find a program that allows people who are taking

01:06:10.080 --> 01:06:19.120
 old structures and bringing them back to life with new uses and preserving them, find a

01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:25.480
 way to extend the funding potential opportunities to those individuals.

01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:36.960
 Okay, so I don't, this goes on the quality of life for me, but I would like to see a

01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:44.040
 goal or a priority of, and I think it aligns with our health components as well, to have

01:06:44.040 --> 01:06:50.280
 each city facility that has staff have a full kitchen, at least opportunity, right, we do

01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:54.240
 it in the fire stations, we do it in police stations, we have it in development services.

01:06:54.240 --> 01:07:01.000
 So I think a goal to extend that beyond those buildings and into other buildings would be,

01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.760
 and that's not to say it's specific, right, so for the new police station, it has that

01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:09.160
 capability, it could be connected to the 9-1-1 thing, so it's just in that vicinity, in that

01:07:09.160 --> 01:07:16.520
 facility somewhere, access to a full kitchen helps people prioritize their diets and that

01:07:16.520 --> 01:07:22.720
 sort of thing to have access.

01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:33.280
 Let's see, yep, and so my overarching thing is just, I think when you quantify things,

01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:37.920
 that tells me a lot, right, when you say there's this many activities, this many things, that,

01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.080
 because that's just what you're capturing, there's obviously things on the edges of that,

01:07:42.080 --> 01:07:50.200
 and so for me, just my personal takeaway that I hope to continue to convey, and I appreciate

01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:59.260
 these numbers because it helps me educate the city, is we have absolutely got to focus on

01:07:59.260 --> 01:08:08.760
 exactly what you outlined in your slides, the longer vision and objectives and create

01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:13.760
 efficiencies for the city manager and staff to do the work, right, we've got to get out

01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:21.000
 of the way and stop kind of yanking the steering wheel because big ships don't turn fast no

01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:25.360
 matter the size of the iceberg, right, that's in one of the Disney songs, and it's true,

01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:29.280
 right, I mean you can't do it, I forget, it's one of the newer movies, it's a great song,

01:08:29.280 --> 01:08:38.040
 but I forget which one, yeah, I'll figure it out, but that to me, that's what's critical,

01:08:38.040 --> 01:08:44.320
 that's the takeaway I get from this, so I'm going to be very intentional about that so

01:08:44.320 --> 01:08:47.320
 that things can get done.

01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:55.480
 The other, so for me, my overarching theme is education, and here's why, when you talk

01:08:55.480 --> 01:09:06.080
 about the conversations made about land banking, right, and my concern there is this council

01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:15.840
 in 2023, 2024, 2025 beyond can decide to bank land, but if you don't activate that land

01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:26.720
 and develop on it, council in 26, 27, 28 can sell it all and do everything that they counter

01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:31.520
 to what you hope to save that land for, right, if you don't put something in place, if you

01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:38.920
 don't activate it, just to hold it gives some future council the opportunity to sell it,

01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:44.960
 and so I don't want to be in that business of helping you do, right, to a degree, you

01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:50.680
 want to plan smartly, but you don't want to have the misgivings that some future council

01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:55.480
 can't unroll everything you just did and we do it to ourselves on a regular basis, give

01:09:55.480 --> 01:10:00.880
 the PFC example, right, we said, hey, work this up, and then we voted it down, so that's

01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:07.080
 the same council by and large, imagine a totally different council and what they're able to

01:10:07.080 --> 01:10:12.600
 do, so I just want to be mindful, and so the education component comes in, because I want

01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:21.040
 to have a liaison, my goal is to have a liaison for city management and for the legal department

01:10:21.040 --> 01:10:28.920
 to function in the political world to some degree, right, because they do not, and that's

01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:35.160
 a great thing, but they are affected because we have an election every year, so in that

01:10:35.160 --> 01:10:40.280
 education component, it's someone that has a pulse on those things, that reads those

01:10:40.280 --> 01:10:46.600
 things that kind of takes the city manager's message and informs it, takes the legal department's

01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:53.040
 message, informs it, and vice versa, where they kind of have a peek into that world because

01:10:53.040 --> 01:11:00.680
 it affects this very process, because a new council person rolls in, has new ideas, and

01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.680
 somehow they've got to plug in, well, then you've got to get relationship and they don't

01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.560
 know who this person is, and so it's just a lot that goes on every year, and so until

01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:15.560
 that's amended, maybe if the charter changes that, there's an election every year and it's

01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:20.200
 a problem when you're talking long-term planning, and you have someone comes on and says, "I

01:11:20.200 --> 01:11:24.280
 want to do this, and I ran on this, and I campaigned on this, and I want to do all these

01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:28.160
 things," and then they get in here and then you say, "Hey, there's 619 things in front

01:11:28.160 --> 01:11:35.400
 of you, but you're in queue, and please hold tight and listen to some soft music," right?

01:11:35.400 --> 01:11:45.840
 You know, I campaigned actively in 2016 on quiet zones, and they're coming, it's that

01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:46.840
 type thing, right?

01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:52.400
 So just, and so to that end, I think it would be fantastic to have your office do a report

01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:59.000
 every year in a February timeframe because that's before things heat up, and this is

01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:04.200
 strictly political, not your world, but I'm just saying kind of a report of what's going

01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:09.800
 on in informing the community, informing groups, informing those that want to run, "Hey, here's

01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:14.120
 what's in the queue, here's what's happening, here's our priorities, here's the data that

01:12:14.120 --> 01:12:19.720
 supports that," then hopefully that will by proxy guide those conversations and they will

01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:24.760
 be, it'll be a seamless integration because there's an annual report that everyone knows

01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:29.920
 about and everyone's informed on what's kind of key priorities and what's going on, and

01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:35.080
 if you're not in line with that, you're saying maybe it's a subtle adjustment versus this

01:12:35.080 --> 01:12:36.920
 wholesale change.

01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:43.040
 So there's an edge account, and then I think that position, hopefully in the next 10, 20

01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:47.840
 years, the City of Denton's grown to a level where a, whoever sits in this mayor seat won't

01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:54.460
 be me, will have a kind of that position rose into the kind of like an executive assistant,

01:12:54.460 --> 01:12:58.380
 and then it's the same thing though, it's from the mayor to this assistant in connection

01:12:58.380 --> 01:13:00.720
 to the city, it's seamless.

01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:09.200
 And so that's my vision for that education component for newly elected people.

01:13:09.200 --> 01:13:16.480
 Then I think it's important because you talk about education again, but this in the context

01:13:16.480 --> 01:13:21.160
 of streets, it's the highest priority we have, mobility.

01:13:21.160 --> 01:13:27.240
 And what you have is, matter of fact, if you watch it and I forget when he said it, I listened

01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:29.800
 to him, but I forget what meeting they all run together.

01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:38.000
 But Trevor mentioned the 2019 bond where they had to slow down there how fast they were

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:43.900
 doing the streets because the city was experiencing construction fatigue.

01:13:43.900 --> 01:13:50.460
 So it's an education component to say all these different pieces that have to happen

01:13:50.460 --> 01:13:51.960
 to complete a road.

01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:59.340
 And so it's just kind of a priority on education on what goes into.

01:13:59.340 --> 01:14:06.760
 So it's utilities, it's Atmos, there's another project pending, it's a tech stop road, there's

01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:09.760
 another project pending in a year and a half, we're not going to finish, we're not going

01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:11.480
 to tear up the road twice.

01:14:11.480 --> 01:14:17.080
 So that informs and helps people see this and kind of guides that, why is this not moving

01:14:17.080 --> 01:14:18.080
 faster?

01:14:18.080 --> 01:14:21.880
 Let me dig down into these data points and understand those things.

01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:29.120
 So I think that from an education component and I think those steps go into everything

01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:35.880
 when you're talking about a lot of major projects we have and kind of what are those components

01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:44.560
 that move there, what are the material issues or it's advantageous to sell bonds at this

01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:50.220
 time, just kind of some of those moving parts that go into that.

01:14:50.220 --> 01:14:55.800
 And this is just an aside comment, right?

01:14:55.800 --> 01:15:00.800
 Because it's important to note and I don't see how we capture it in the priorities, but

01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:08.400
 to move faster also means to move people out of there, potentially, if their house is there.

01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:13.000
 So we're saying move the streets faster, like Bonnie Brady had a tough conversation because

01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:17.640
 that means we needed to foreclose or not foreclose whatever the term is, eminent domain, someone's

01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:23.320
 house, faster, we need the eminent domain, somebody's business, faster.

01:15:23.320 --> 01:15:32.200
 And so I think just, again, education component to say here's why this homeowner is 90 and

01:15:32.200 --> 01:15:38.880
 we're being delicate about this or this tax dot funding is timed so we have to move it.

01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:44.120
 So I think that just that education component into what we do would be helpful.

01:15:44.120 --> 01:15:49.640
 We talked about that.

01:15:49.640 --> 01:16:01.640
 And then I think just akin to the distance to parks, I think there's a parallel across

01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:06.320
 the board when it comes to an opportunity to identify regional gaps.

01:16:06.320 --> 01:16:11.840
 We hear about food deserts, one, but like grocery stores, medical facilities, et cetera,

01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:12.840
 et cetera.

01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:18.040
 It's a priority to say here's a region of the city because that's where people are traveling

01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:19.760
 more within their region.

01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:25.000
 You don't see this, I'm going to take 45 minutes and drive across Denton anymore, right?

01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.640
 It used to be 10 minutes or five minutes.

01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.800
 I operate in this general area and don't leave it often.

01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.160
 What's missing in those areas?

01:16:33.160 --> 01:16:34.160
 So I don't know.

01:16:34.160 --> 01:16:41.560
 So a priority on identifying this area and we should have a grocery store every X amount

01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:46.760
 of miles because that's how people travel and so when you pull up a map, you can say

01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.160
 here's this region and it's missing these things and then to Councilmember Watts' point,

01:16:51.160 --> 01:16:55.320
 maybe you look at that region and you say, okay, someone's bringing this and we're going

01:16:55.320 --> 01:16:59.680
 to participate in that because that's the last component missing in this particular

01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:00.680
 region.

01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.560
 We're taking a regional approach to libraries.

01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:07.840
 We're just having to expand just due to growth our viewpoint of segments of the city and

01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:14.080
 I think that is missing is kind of a regional gap analysis and what are best practices for

01:17:14.080 --> 01:17:21.720
 that and then going back to the education component, I just would like to and the city

01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:26.000
 manager is already working on this so I just want to support what she's saying as far as

01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:33.320
 a communications department goal and what I'd like to see is more of a bringing more people

01:17:33.320 --> 01:17:41.200
 to the table having their voices heard early and often earlier in processes and that is

01:17:41.200 --> 01:17:48.200
 in place in its infrastructure kind of the e-comments on our agendas but I think an expansion

01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:53.720
 of that or just a priority of that outreach to the entirety of the consultant that we

01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:58.360
 talked about in the retreat talked about focusing on 151,000 people.

01:17:58.360 --> 01:18:05.840
 If we hear from 300 that's a fraction of the 151,000 let's see it as such.

01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:11.000
 Let's increase that number and we have to be purposeful about that and connect with

01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.000
 people.

01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:13.000
 Parks is good about that.

01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:17.200
 Every event you see parks with their dots and this sort of thing, hey, let us hear from

01:18:17.200 --> 01:18:21.160
 you and that's evident in the data you're able to capture because they're intentional

01:18:21.160 --> 01:18:27.040
 about that so let's be intentional about hearing from people on everyday issues that we deal

01:18:27.040 --> 01:18:31.340
 with and I think the bones are in place but I think it needs to be a higher priority to

01:18:31.340 --> 01:18:44.680
 hear from people and what their priorities are and I think that is the bulk of what jumps

01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:45.680
 out of me.

01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:46.680
 That's a question.

01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:47.680
 Council Member McGee.

01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:55.280
 To touch on what you're saying Mr. Mayor, the regional approach is that different than

01:18:55.280 --> 01:18:57.640
 the small area plans?

01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:58.640
 To me it is yes.

01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.640
 Is it larger?

01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:00.640
 It's smaller.

01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:01.640
 Smaller.

01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:07.720
 Yes, because you have people that live, like that northeast plan is huge, I mean it's a

01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:09.360
 bunch of acres that's not developed.

01:19:09.360 --> 01:19:18.060
 What I see is for example, what is that, Luke 28 and McKinney area around Ryan High School,

01:19:18.060 --> 01:19:22.200
 you have high school students that have the option to go across the street to Dollar General

01:19:22.200 --> 01:19:29.960
 and get something that will kill them soon that's very unhealthy versus focusing on putting

01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:38.880
 the grocery store on the corner of Luke 28 and McKinney that would allow them to have

01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:43.360
 at least access to better foods and you have that entire neighborhood going in out there

01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:48.880
 and so there's a lot of development around Ryan High and to the east so those houses

01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:53.560
 are coming in and so now those houses have to drive all the way to Kroger on the loop

01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:56.600
 and that causes traffic congestion, that sort of thing.

01:19:56.600 --> 01:20:03.240
 So what I'm seeing is it's almost like it's not a, it is truly a individual neighborhood

01:20:03.240 --> 01:20:06.680
 type or I say regional kind of that approach.

01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:08.360
 Southeast Denton goes where?

01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:09.960
 Southridge goes where?

01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:11.720
 North Lakes goes where?

01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.760
 You know, Sundown Ranch, where are they going?

01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:20.680
 You know, so it's these kind of neighborhoods or pockets of a larger plan and just like

01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.560
 parks we should have this much, you should be able to get to the grocery store in this

01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:24.560
 much time.

01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:25.560
 That's, I hope I understand.

01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.320
 You know, I know that staff has a list of the different, of the city broken down neighborhood

01:20:29.320 --> 01:20:30.320
 by neighborhood.

01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:33.520
 It might be helpful to go through that approach, neighborhood by neighborhood, what you're

01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:34.520
 talking about.

01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:35.520
 Yeah.

01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:36.520
 Yeah, no, I can see that.

01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:38.840
 I don't know how best to identify those things.

01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:43.920
 I just know, I'm certain there's studies out there on how far people travel traditionally

01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:49.080
 but it is, it's the eye-opening thing just to kind of give you the people to pull the

01:20:49.080 --> 01:20:50.080
 curtain back.

01:20:50.080 --> 01:20:56.740
 I was talking to a friend that used to work downtown and would go to a coffee shop downtown

01:20:56.740 --> 01:21:02.240
 four days a week and then they moved out on the loop and hadn't been back since.

01:21:02.240 --> 01:21:07.360
 So it's a person that wants to go but just because it's out of their kind of normal path

01:21:07.360 --> 01:21:08.840
 just has not made it back.

01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:13.280
 And so I think that's, that's the travel patterns of people, especially when you're working

01:21:13.280 --> 01:21:14.280
 from home.

01:21:14.280 --> 01:21:18.100
 You're just, I'm not going in these same areas shopping the same ways.

01:21:18.100 --> 01:21:24.200
 And so we got to kind of adjust to that.

01:21:24.200 --> 01:21:35.300
 Any other questions, comments before turning back over Councilman Burke?

01:21:35.300 --> 01:21:44.480
 So while you were speaking it brought up to mind that I was thinking about an arts district

01:21:44.480 --> 01:21:53.200
 like different districts to do different things in where people are enticed to go to a museum

01:21:53.200 --> 01:21:55.560
 or to the farmers market.

01:21:55.560 --> 01:22:01.680
 And so what I'm recognizing is that we've kind of made our whole city a district in

01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:02.680
 itself.

01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:09.120
 There's a lot of things that are going on here, but it's not in a certain location.

01:22:09.120 --> 01:22:18.520
 For instance, if we have a museum, I think we had a little museum around the square,

01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:26.880
 and then there is another kind of activity that is in another section of town.

01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:31.480
 So I'm wondering if we can get to a point, I guess that'll come with growth, that we

01:22:31.480 --> 01:22:36.560
 can have these various districts music, you know, this is where we're going to find a

01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:37.560
 lot of music.

01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.040
 This is where we're going to find a lot of art.

01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:44.240
 This is where our farmers market is going to be.

01:22:44.240 --> 01:22:46.200
 What is the entertainment for the kids?

01:22:46.200 --> 01:22:48.160
 Do we have a skating rink?

01:22:48.160 --> 01:22:54.240
 Do we have somewhere, you know, where our kids could be entertained?

01:22:54.240 --> 01:22:57.880
 So those are the kind of things, and I guess I lean more towards the quality of life because

01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:03.640
 I'm a family-oriented individual that looks more to that side.

01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:06.840
 I'd like us to also put that in the mix.

01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:07.840
 Okay.

01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:08.840
 Anyone else?

01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:09.840
 Okay.

01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:12.120
 Turn it back over to you.

01:23:12.120 --> 01:23:15.080
 Can I have five minutes?

01:23:15.080 --> 01:23:16.080
 Sure.

01:23:16.080 --> 01:23:17.080
 Thank you.

01:23:17.080 --> 01:23:18.080
 Yeah.

01:23:18.080 --> 01:23:19.080
 Well, and let's do that.

01:23:19.080 --> 01:23:20.080
 Yes.

01:23:20.080 --> 01:23:21.080
 Can we?

01:23:21.080 --> 01:23:22.080
 Yeah.

01:23:22.080 --> 01:23:23.080
 Thank you.

01:23:23.080 --> 01:23:24.080
 So we'll take, let's be back at 10.30.

01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:25.080
 Is that enough time?

01:23:25.080 --> 01:23:26.080
 That's good.

01:23:26.080 --> 01:23:27.080
 That's good.

01:23:27.080 --> 01:23:28.080
 Okay.

01:23:28.080 --> 01:23:29.080
 Yeah.

01:23:29.080 --> 01:23:30.080
 Thank you, sir.

01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:31.080
 We'll be back at 10.30.

01:23:31.080 --> 01:23:32.080
 Be back until then.

01:23:32.080 --> 01:23:33.080
 Thank you.

01:23:33.080 --> 01:23:34.080
 All right.

01:23:34.080 --> 01:23:36.560
 Welcome back to this meeting of Denton City Council.

01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:43.440
 We've had that break to give some time to process through the information provided,

01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:46.480
 and now we'll get an overview.

01:23:46.480 --> 01:23:50.920
 We're not scheduled to take a, or posted to take a vote.

01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:56.600
 So we're going to just give general insight or make sure everything's captured, and staff

01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.320
 will come back to us.

01:23:58.320 --> 01:24:04.960
 But the exercise now is to kind of react to what's captured, fine tune what's captured.

01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:10.600
 And I do want to call back to, if you're looking at your presentation, slide five on the strategic

01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.160
 planning role.

01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:16.240
 So our focus is the focus areas and objectives.

01:24:16.240 --> 01:24:21.400
 Then the city manager takes the initiatives, milestones, and comes back with those sort

01:24:21.400 --> 01:24:23.120
 of things with what they'll do.

01:24:23.120 --> 01:24:26.680
 So again, focus areas, objectives, make sure everything's captured.

01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.280
 If it's not, let's make sure that's captured.

01:24:29.280 --> 01:24:34.280
 That's kind of, so I'll give you, turn it over to you, you do your summary over you,

01:24:34.280 --> 01:24:36.280
 and then we'll give you feedback.

01:24:36.280 --> 01:24:37.280
 Okay.

01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:42.080
 So took a break just to kind of start coordinating these, and then identifying ones where work

01:24:42.080 --> 01:24:46.400
 was already underway and addressing some of these issues.

01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:52.080
 So we have one category that is public safety that clearly aligns with healthy and safe communities

01:24:52.080 --> 01:24:54.280
 as a key focus area.

01:24:54.280 --> 01:24:58.320
 There is some significant work being done in the police department around their mental

01:24:58.320 --> 01:24:59.320
 health division.

01:24:59.320 --> 01:25:04.320
 We, in a follow-up, we'll circle back and make sure you have all the information about

01:25:04.320 --> 01:25:10.040
 that work being done and where they're going next with that.

01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:16.720
 Looking at housing, as we move the affordable housing toolkit forward, that is one of those

01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:21.240
 strategic plans that we've identified and how we track and report on that.

01:25:21.240 --> 01:25:26.480
 So bringing back some information on that one as well, and that goes into fostering

01:25:26.480 --> 01:25:32.440
 economic opportunity and affordability, and sorry, I'm going to move around a lot on this

01:25:32.440 --> 01:25:33.440
 one.

01:25:33.440 --> 01:25:37.840
 Then we've got downtown, so we currently have the downtown master plan.

01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:43.280
 We are focusing on that second component, which is downtown economic development, living

01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:46.760
 and lifestyle, so we'll take a closer look at that one.

01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:52.640
 And then our downtown incentive grants, these are all things that are a piece of the plans

01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:56.180
 that we are currently moving forward.

01:25:56.180 --> 01:25:59.640
 That economic development strategic plan, which is fairly expansive, again, with those

01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:05.800
 121 tracked initiatives that fall under that specific plan.

01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:14.040
 So we'll bring you back information on incentives that are included in that plan and the work

01:26:14.040 --> 01:26:19.000
 being done with that ED strategic plan.

01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:22.920
 Then kind of this area here is a little bit of mix of everything, but a lot of that falls

01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:29.600
 into, quite a few of these fall into organizational excellence in terms of what the city is doing

01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:36.960
 with its DEI initiatives, how we are focusing on our workforce, and the things that we are

01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:43.040
 doing to be that employer of choice as a city.

01:26:43.040 --> 01:26:49.320
 I feel like with what we are moving towards with marketing and communication, I feel like

01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:52.880
 we're going to hear more and more about that voice of the customer and about how we are

01:26:52.880 --> 01:27:01.640
 engaging our residents in our community earlier and in a more proactive way.

01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:06.880
 Danny Shaw was telling me about the work that they are doing in the GIS mapping that can

01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:11.800
 help us with that identification of those regional gaps and how the work she's doing

01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:18.500
 is going to help with that priority that council has identified.

01:27:18.500 --> 01:27:25.360
 And then quite a lot going on in the area of environment and sustainability.

01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:32.600
 The EV solar and parking, that is actually one of the initiatives that we have currently

01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:35.720
 marked in the strategic plan.

01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.960
 So we're going to come back with a follow up with where and how this currently fits

01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:44.880
 in and then some of those future plans are and then what considerations we have for any

01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:49.760
 remaining items and then identifying those priorities for the next year.

01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:50.760
 Okay.

01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:51.760
 Questions?

01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:52.760
 Comments?

01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.760
 Councilman Meltzer?

01:27:55.760 --> 01:28:00.240
 My first point, I think I spoke too long and wasn't clear enough.

01:28:00.240 --> 01:28:01.240
 Okay.

01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:03.600
 It's the checked one on public safety?

01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:04.600
 Yes.

01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:07.680
 I'm very aware of the mental health division.

01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:14.640
 The point is the nugget, like in a little square, would be intercity approach to mental

01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:19.300
 health and substance abuse resources.

01:28:19.300 --> 01:28:25.000
 If it's 30 to 60% of calls, there may be, I don't know the exact number, but something

01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:31.600
 like 10 beds, places to bring people and the need might be more like 100, which is beyond

01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:32.840
 what a city can do.

01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:36.480
 That's why the nugget is intercity approach.

01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:42.400
 And yes, it will ultimately address our ability to keep up with public safety hiring because

01:28:42.400 --> 01:28:47.240
 if you're putting 30 to 60% of your resources on something that makes up half your budget,

01:28:47.240 --> 01:28:51.400
 you know, to something because you're not addressing it, it's a problem.

01:28:51.400 --> 01:28:53.120
 Thank you for that point of clarification.

01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:55.880
 Were there any other items that you wanted to add some clarification?

01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:00.440
 Amy, I just want to make sure council can give their, I mean, I know we didn't post

01:29:00.440 --> 01:29:06.400
 it to just take votes, but I do think we need to know from council sort of, okay, this one

01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:07.740
 and this one and this one or whatever.

01:29:07.740 --> 01:29:13.720
 So we, because otherwise I think we, what I don't want is to take every one of these

01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.040
 and have staff try to report out on this.

01:29:16.040 --> 01:29:20.720
 We need to know from council more of a consensus so that we're not just coming back and someone's

01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.440
 like, well, I wasn't really interested in that.

01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:32.120
 Well then, I would be interested to hear from someone on staff how to accomplish that because

01:29:32.120 --> 01:29:33.580
 that conversation never ends.

01:29:33.580 --> 01:29:40.520
 If we start that on each thing that someone touched about, we will be here for a very

01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:41.520
 long time.

01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.720
 I guess what I'm saying is as we go through them, Amy's putting a check mark by things

01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:49.160
 that we are already doing and maybe we just need to give you a better update.

01:29:49.160 --> 01:29:52.720
 Number one, two, there's quite a few here.

01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.640
 Is this the whole list or is there more up or down?

01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:56.640
 This is it.

01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:57.640
 No, this is it.

01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:06.200
 I guess if Mayor, you just say, okay, public safety, and I can't read what's there.

01:30:06.200 --> 01:30:15.860
 Well, my question is, if these are initiatives, correct, that are listed here, that falls

01:30:15.860 --> 01:30:17.840
 on your side of the ledger.

01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:23.960
 Our side of the ledger are objectives and focus areas and so she overviewed those focus

01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:30.280
 areas and objectives in there, the actionable things, kind of that initiative side is where

01:30:30.280 --> 01:30:42.760
 we hand off and so to go and I take your point, I just don't know if, I see you, I just don't

01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:45.760
 know if this is the...

01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:49.160
 I guess I'll just use Prop B as an example.

01:30:49.160 --> 01:30:51.160
 What do I do with that?

01:30:51.160 --> 01:30:54.200
 Because I don't know that there's an agreement here on this board, this body.

01:30:54.200 --> 01:30:59.840
 I don't think there is either, there hadn't been a...

01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:07.720
 One council member spoke on it, another one spoke on it, no one else spoke on it, and

01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:08.720
 you've spoke on it.

01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.200
 You said, we're doing everything we can because we're doing everything we can because it's

01:31:12.200 --> 01:31:13.520
 the right thing to do.

01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:18.200
 Either people are gonna accept you at your word or they're not, but that doesn't mean

01:31:18.200 --> 01:31:21.480
 you continue to say the same thing.

01:31:21.480 --> 01:31:29.760
 I think that's my, I think that's that point where it never ends if we...

01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:31.280
 And I'm trying to...

01:31:31.280 --> 01:31:34.320
 No, I appreciate what you're trying to do, I do.

01:31:34.320 --> 01:31:42.960
 Sure up that we object this focus area, larger council driven things and leave the initiatives

01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:45.920
 for you to report back, that sort of thing.

01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:50.840
 So Mayor Pro Tem.

01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:56.240
 Thanks, Mr. Mayor.

01:31:56.240 --> 01:32:03.120
 I think two questions I have for you and for City Manager, and that is, it seems like there's

01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:04.560
 two different things.

01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:15.320
 There's adding priorities versus reprioritization, an emphasis that may need, that this particular

01:32:15.320 --> 01:32:21.640
 makeup of council may want to emphasize certain elements more than others in the way they

01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:22.800
 were in the past.

01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:25.320
 So I think those are two different...

01:32:25.320 --> 01:32:33.620
 For the ones that you've been doing already and that can be organized in already, where

01:32:33.620 --> 01:32:38.840
 is the consensus of council in terms of the priority that we would love to see you focus

01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:39.840
 on?

01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:47.640
 And in addition, I take your point about there are new items on this list.

01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:53.320
 And I think that we established at the beginning that we didn't want people to reiterate what

01:32:53.320 --> 01:32:55.360
 other people had said.

01:32:55.360 --> 01:33:00.160
 So I don't know that we can use the counts of the people that spoke as an estimation

01:33:00.160 --> 01:33:07.400
 of emphasis because we purposely limited ourselves on what we were saying so that it wouldn't

01:33:07.400 --> 01:33:08.400
 be redundant.

01:33:08.400 --> 01:33:11.960
 So if you could help me through those conundrums, I would appreciate it.

01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:17.360
 Well, if you're specifically talking about Prop B, we've talked about that for over,

01:33:17.360 --> 01:33:20.360
 I don't know the math, but a year or two, right?

01:33:20.360 --> 01:33:25.440
 So if you tell them, if that specifically, if you're saying that we hadn't been heard

01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:27.760
 on that, I disagree.

01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:28.760
 If it's...

01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:29.760
 I meant generically, sir.

01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:30.760
 Okay, got it.

01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:33.720
 Then I don't know that there's...

01:33:33.720 --> 01:33:40.040
 These are initiatives, and that's where I'm trying to not drive us down into that component.

01:33:40.040 --> 01:33:48.880
 And then the other thing that's a struggle for me is if we're going to, at this point,

01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:55.920
 say, re-prioritize, what about the 119 other initiatives that we didn't talk about that

01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:56.920
 are already there?

01:33:56.920 --> 01:33:59.920
 Where do you go?

01:33:59.920 --> 01:34:06.440
 And then how do we, and this is for the entire body I'm saying, every year you go back and

01:34:06.440 --> 01:34:07.440
 you...

01:34:07.440 --> 01:34:12.000
 So there's 619 things that we didn't talk about, is that right, 616 things we didn't

01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.560
 talk about, strategies we didn't talk about.

01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:20.080
 There's 119 initiatives that were touched on, then there's an overview provided.

01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:26.320
 And then as a matter of practice, every year this council is going to revisit thousands

01:34:26.320 --> 01:34:31.160
 of initiatives, and I just don't know that that's...

01:34:31.160 --> 01:34:36.600
 And what does that put it if staff worked on it for a year, and then a year it changes,

01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:38.920
 this makeup changes, and we say we revisit that.

01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:39.920
 So I'm just...

01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:46.360
 I'm asking for insight on how that's not, to me, sustainable, nor a wise use of resources

01:34:46.360 --> 01:34:49.920
 to turn the boat every year.

01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:55.160
 I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor, it's just that that is sort of the nature of the political

01:34:55.160 --> 01:34:58.040
 beast when people elect new politicians.

01:34:58.040 --> 01:35:03.320
 They've said either the makeup of the city has changed, the makeup of the politicians

01:35:03.320 --> 01:35:07.480
 have changed, they've elected priorities, people who have expressed certain priorities

01:35:07.480 --> 01:35:11.880
 and vision, and those people get to set the new rules.

01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:19.400
 And I know that's unfortunate and ugly and hard in a bureaucracy, I myself am staff in

01:35:19.400 --> 01:35:22.400
 a bureaucracy for the state of Texas.

01:35:22.400 --> 01:35:28.920
 But it is what it is, I don't think we take left turns all the time, but you staff needs

01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:31.920
 to understand that.

01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:35.480
 So let me ask you that, how do you then prioritize...

01:35:35.480 --> 01:35:41.280
 So I got more votes than you did, so do I have more say than you?

01:35:41.280 --> 01:35:44.040
 We have a one seventh council, that's how this works.

01:35:44.040 --> 01:35:46.240
 So, but I'm just asking you, in your example...

01:35:46.240 --> 01:35:47.240
 We reach consensus.

01:35:47.240 --> 01:35:48.240
 I'm just...

01:35:48.240 --> 01:35:49.240
 We're just having a conversation.

01:35:49.240 --> 01:35:54.960
 So in that, if we go into that political world, and we do those things that way, do you see

01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:57.880
 how that can be...

01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:04.320
 I can then say, well, the majority of the city of Denton asked me to serve in this capacity

01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:09.640
 and a fraction of the city, a quarter of the city asked you to serve in that capacity,

01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:12.680
 ergo, I have a larger voice than you?

01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.680
 No, that's normalized through this process.

01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:21.480
 And so I take your point that there are elections and there are results, and that's going to

01:36:21.480 --> 01:36:23.960
 happen every year until that changes.

01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:29.120
 What I am saying though is, and that's exactly what my point is, and that we have to separate

01:36:29.120 --> 01:36:36.200
 this process from, you should represent 151,000 people, I should represent 151,000 people

01:36:36.200 --> 01:36:42.400
 in everything we do here, and on top of that, we have 2000 employees that we don't want

01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:48.120
 to have them work on because half of these things can't be accomplished in one year.

01:36:48.120 --> 01:36:53.840
 And so if you just work towards something for a year and then something changes and

01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:58.600
 you say, "Don't work on that," then you'll never get anything done because I've been

01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:05.960
 trying to get quiet zones for a number of years and everyone's on board and everyone

01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:08.240
 agrees and we still don't have them.

01:37:08.240 --> 01:37:11.080
 So it's just not realistic in my mind.

01:37:11.080 --> 01:37:16.840
 Now, if others want to do it that way, then that's okay.

01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:24.080
 Then again, I am one voice, but I'm just saying what you've just outlined is not steeped in

01:37:24.080 --> 01:37:25.080
 reality.

01:37:25.080 --> 01:37:31.600
 I understand it's not the way a business operates because governments aren't business.

01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:32.760
 That just isn't how it works.

01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:33.760
 Okay.

01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:34.760
 I need to hear from other people.

01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:36.880
 I mean, if that's the consensus, we'll move on.

01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:37.880
 We're not going to beat this.

01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:38.880
 We're not going to beat this.

01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:45.000
 And I don't know what that means for staff, but we will hash it out.

01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:46.320
 You look like you have something to say.

01:37:46.320 --> 01:37:47.320
 Yeah.

01:37:47.320 --> 01:37:48.320
 Well, then Council Member Melton.

01:37:48.320 --> 01:37:49.320
 Okay.

01:37:49.320 --> 01:37:50.320
 Thank you.

01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:51.320
 Yeah.

01:37:51.320 --> 01:37:52.320
 I don't think this has to be that complicated.

01:37:52.320 --> 01:37:58.520
 For sure, we've been shown there is a massive amount of stuff that's already in the works.

01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:05.040
 And if council members already had a desire to take something off the list, I mean, they

01:38:05.040 --> 01:38:10.200
 could have said so, or they could still, I think more likely from the pruning point of

01:38:10.200 --> 01:38:14.160
 view, if we're hearing from -- I would be perfectly open to hearing in a future session

01:38:14.160 --> 01:38:18.680
 from staff, like here's a raft of stuff we just don't think we can realistically accomplish

01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:22.120
 while doing everything else and bring that for consideration.

01:38:22.120 --> 01:38:29.560
 But today is about us talking about what we want to be priorities on the list.

01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:30.560
 That's the whole point of priorities.

01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:34.400
 Some things are higher than others, and these are things that aren't addressed, and that

01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:41.720
 for whatever reason, it's urgency or importance or new voices that haven't been heard, whatever.

01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:46.000
 We get to have input on what should be priorities.

01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.880
 And as far as how many people you represent, well, that's actually all laid out in the

01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:52.360
 charter, you know, that we each get one vote.

01:38:52.360 --> 01:38:58.640
 One thing we might add to the list, I'd be very interested in hearing whether this body

01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:04.680
 feels that there ought to be a charter review committee if you don't think we're sort of

01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.040
 set up equitably, if it ought to be a 6-1 council or whatever.

01:39:08.040 --> 01:39:13.440
 I'm open to the idea that I think there are enough things that I've seen bottling around

01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:19.280
 from staff, from the community that maybe there ought to be a charter review to vet

01:39:19.280 --> 01:39:20.280
 some of that.

01:39:20.280 --> 01:39:28.600
 But on the stuff before us now, what I would suggest is we go one by one, show of hands,

01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.040
 the first slice is very easy.

01:39:31.040 --> 01:39:35.800
 If there aren't at least four people interested, it's not on the list.

01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:39.400
 Now, if there are at least four people on every single thing, it's probably still too

01:39:39.400 --> 01:39:40.400
 long of a list.

01:39:40.400 --> 01:39:43.480
 We could talk about how to call it further, like, you know, maybe everybody gets to say

01:39:43.480 --> 01:39:48.280
 what their top three are, and you go with the ones that have the most -- that are on

01:39:48.280 --> 01:39:50.760
 the top three list for everyone.

01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:55.760
 But I think a first cut would be simply, are there four -- are there at least four for

01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:56.760
 each item?

01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.720
 Right, I know you don't want to do red dots or stickies, but it amounts to the same thing.

01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.360
 But it truly does.

01:40:02.360 --> 01:40:04.680
 And I take your point, but here's the problem.

01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:07.480
 It all started with, we're not posted to take a vote.

01:40:07.480 --> 01:40:08.560
 You can say, take a vote.

01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:10.080
 You can say, raise your hands.

01:40:10.080 --> 01:40:12.760
 You can say, wink twice.

01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:13.760
 It's direction.

01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:14.760
 We do it all the time, Mayor.

01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:15.760
 I mean, you know that.

01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:19.080
 Well, I'm just -- I mean, I'm talking to the City Attorney, so I'll have him say it.

01:40:19.080 --> 01:40:20.080
 Maybe it'll sound different.

01:40:20.080 --> 01:40:21.080
 Go ahead.

01:40:21.080 --> 01:40:27.040
 We're just letting the Mayor know we're not posted for direction, which historically has

01:40:27.040 --> 01:40:30.080
 meant for us, at least in this working session, we're not posted for direction.

01:40:30.080 --> 01:40:35.840
 So we're posted for discussion and receive the report.

01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:43.040
 Wait, so -- but I don't -- there's an overarching -- so I take your point, Council Member Meldlund,

01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:47.880
 and those are all good points, but what the -- what you didn't -- what I do need to hear

01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:54.480
 from the body is, because I am in direct opposition of what Mayor Pro Tem is just proposed, is

01:40:54.480 --> 01:40:58.920
 that every year we revisit every priority based on election.

01:40:58.920 --> 01:40:59.920
 That's what he laid out.

01:40:59.920 --> 01:41:00.920
 Am I wrong?

01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:01.920
 That is what --

01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:02.920
 Okay.

01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:07.520
 I'm saying that every year new priorities are introduced, and we have to figure out

01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:08.520
 how those are integrated.

01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:12.240
 But then, yes, how do you -- how do you then integrate those to an existing --

01:41:12.240 --> 01:41:18.360
 It is an ongoing conundrum, and that's why every year we've done stickies or direction

01:41:18.360 --> 01:41:25.600
 or -- we've come up with a mechanism to give staff a clue of things to, you know, instead

01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:30.060
 of a one-year project, this is going to be two, or maybe it falls off the list.

01:41:30.060 --> 01:41:31.060
 So --

01:41:31.060 --> 01:41:35.200
 Or, you know, this is -- this one is -- you know, we -- that is a juggling act that goes

01:41:35.200 --> 01:41:36.200
 on all the time.

01:41:36.200 --> 01:41:37.200
 But if it's --

01:41:37.200 --> 01:41:41.440
 It is why one of the things that might be beneficial, say, in a charter revision is

01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:47.800
 three-year terms or something to where it's -- the things are less flexible.

01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:53.240
 But if it's -- if it's a two-year project, and you're saying it's revisited every year,

01:41:53.240 --> 01:41:57.320
 how do you reconcile that in your mind?

01:41:57.320 --> 01:42:03.160
 I think we -- it is incumbent on us -- I take your point -- is incumbent on us to look at

01:42:03.160 --> 01:42:09.880
 the resources that have been spent and the time that has been spent and say, in our individual

01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:15.560
 priorities, when we are providing consensus to council, do those still match?

01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.440
 Are we still in alignment with where we've done?

01:42:18.440 --> 01:42:22.800
 And you can't discount -- you can't just constantly add and discount.

01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:27.960
 But it is essentially a pruning mechanism, as Councillor Meltzer said.

01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:32.840
 And if we no longer -- I mean, I'm just going to pick on quiet zones since you mentioned

01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:33.840
 it.

01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:37.400
 If there's no longer a consensus from the current policy that we need to be working

01:42:37.400 --> 01:42:40.040
 on quiet zones, then they can fall by the wayside.

01:42:40.040 --> 01:42:41.880
 And I don't think that's actually where it is.

01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:44.080
 But I'm just giving that as an example.

01:42:44.080 --> 01:42:45.080
 Okay.

01:42:45.080 --> 01:42:46.280
 Councillor McBurke.

01:42:46.280 --> 01:42:54.480
 What I'm thinking is that since we have all of these different subject matters that are

01:42:54.480 --> 01:43:00.680
 laid out for us right now, if we can come to some kind of consensus as to what -- you

01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:06.120
 know, public safety is at first, is housing second, is land, what are we -- instead of

01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:15.920
 going through each and every one of these boxes to debate over, why don't we just take

01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:22.040
 each one of these different ones and put those in order first?

01:43:22.040 --> 01:43:25.720
 For instance, of course, I'm a quality of life individual.

01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:33.380
 I'm going to ask that our housing, you know, and then let's talk about public safety, then

01:43:33.380 --> 01:43:35.800
 economic strategic plan.

01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:41.580
 Why don't we look at it on a large scale like that first and start prioritizing there?

01:43:41.580 --> 01:43:44.280
 Point of order.

01:43:44.280 --> 01:43:45.680
 Yes.

01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.720
 We need some direction on the leality of what we're talking about.

01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:56.380
 If this is not posted for discussion and we've given our direction as far as what we want

01:43:56.380 --> 01:43:59.680
 on the list, we've just -- we each had an opportunity to say something.

01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:04.200
 But if this is not posted for direction, whether it should have or should not have been, it

01:44:04.200 --> 01:44:11.280
 doesn't really even matter, then I think we're really wading in some waters right now that

01:44:11.280 --> 01:44:12.280
 are not good.

01:44:12.280 --> 01:44:16.680
 We have a -- we have the rule of law and a process, and if we need to bring this back,

01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:20.920
 we can bring it back with direction, but otherwise, if we start doing all these informal votes

01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:24.000
 and all these kinds of things, I just feel real uncomfortable with that.

01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:25.000
 Rightfully so.

01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:29.600
 Especially since we've known that the city attorney has told us this is where we are,

01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:30.600
 so --

01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:31.600
 Rightfully so.

01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:32.600
 No, and I didn't suggest that.

01:44:32.600 --> 01:44:34.560
 No, no, I know you did.

01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:38.480
 So here's what it reads, and you all have it in front of you.

01:44:38.480 --> 01:44:44.280
 Receive report, hold discussion regarding City Council key focus areas and specific priorities.

01:44:44.280 --> 01:44:51.260
 That's what it -- so the discussion of key focus areas, priorities were good.

01:44:51.260 --> 01:44:57.240
 We just can't -- there's not direction requested.

01:44:57.240 --> 01:45:09.440
 And so by discussion, there is inevitably direction, but to have a straw vote or some

01:45:09.440 --> 01:45:19.480
 sort of tallying is not what we're -- and then I just candidly have a problem with us

01:45:19.480 --> 01:45:26.000
 getting into the initiatives versus -- and that's key focus areas, objectives.

01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:34.080
 And so I think Amy's done a good job of tying things to these key focus areas, and basically

01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:39.240
 I don't see a bucket of anything that's missing.

01:45:39.240 --> 01:45:45.840
 All the -- I'm looking for, is there a square in there that you think deserves its own bucket?

01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:52.760
 And let's inform that, but if all the little buckets -- I mean, all the squares fit into

01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:59.320
 the prescribed overarching buckets, then we're in good shape, I believe, and staff can come

01:45:59.320 --> 01:46:00.920
 back and report on those things.

01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:01.920
 Ms. City Manager?

01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:03.960
 I have a suggestion that maybe will work.

01:46:03.960 --> 01:46:08.040
 If you see the check marks there, those check marks are things that we're currently working

01:46:08.040 --> 01:46:09.040
 on.

01:46:09.040 --> 01:46:10.040
 Am I right, Amy?

01:46:10.040 --> 01:46:11.040
 That's correct.

01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:12.760
 So if -- we are working on DEI values.

01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:17.040
 We have a staff member that's working on that, training, the whole nine yards.

01:46:17.040 --> 01:46:22.880
 We have the process we're going through right now with TWU, UNT, and NCTC.

01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:27.040
 As a matter of fact, I have a meet with Brent next week, and some things that are really

01:46:27.040 --> 01:46:28.380
 exciting that we're working on.

01:46:28.380 --> 01:46:30.400
 We have a downtown master plan that's coming forward.

01:46:30.400 --> 01:46:32.080
 They'll be coming to you.

01:46:32.080 --> 01:46:36.320
 We've been working with Wayne on economic opportunities and incentives that you all

01:46:36.320 --> 01:46:39.340
 can address if you want to put more money into the budget.

01:46:39.340 --> 01:46:42.800
 We are working on our affordable housing kit and some of the others.

01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:49.080
 So if you will allow us then to give you an update on all those things, I mean, if you

01:46:49.080 --> 01:46:54.120
 ask Gary today, he'll tell you where his priorities are on parkland acquisition.

01:46:54.120 --> 01:46:56.760
 He can tell you he's got it.

01:46:56.760 --> 01:46:58.400
 Tony's working on solar.

01:46:58.400 --> 01:46:59.400
 It's a constant battle.

01:46:59.400 --> 01:47:01.360
 We're working on that with solar.

01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:06.560
 We've worked with Scott McDonald and facilities on solar and parking.

01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:10.280
 Tree code may be something you all may want to have as something extra.

01:47:10.280 --> 01:47:11.760
 Streets roadway funding.

01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.000
 We've made a suggestion that will come up in the budget.

01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:15.000
 Festivals.

01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:16.000
 We have a form.

01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.760
 If we can make that better or come back with something, I guess what I'm saying is we can

01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:25.080
 come back with something to counsel on all the check marks of things we're doing.

01:47:25.080 --> 01:47:30.480
 Then if there are other things here, which I see there are, then those are the things

01:47:30.480 --> 01:47:36.220
 that -- I mean, with DCTA, I talk to Paul Christina every week.

01:47:36.220 --> 01:47:39.240
 But if there's other things we need to do, to be honest with you, you have a representative

01:47:39.240 --> 01:47:43.120
 called Allison McGuire that really needs to represent the city, and that's a discussion

01:47:43.120 --> 01:47:45.280
 you need to have with Allison.

01:47:45.280 --> 01:47:48.200
 So there are some things here that I think we can come back and give you an update on

01:47:48.200 --> 01:47:49.260
 where we are.

01:47:49.260 --> 01:47:54.400
 So that narrows that list down to a very, very small amount of what would be helpful

01:47:54.400 --> 01:47:56.080
 for me to know.

01:47:56.080 --> 01:47:57.880
 >> All right.

01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:03.160
 Anyone else before we go back to the usual suspects?

01:48:03.160 --> 01:48:11.000
 >> Can we just take off the -- I'm trying to talk to you about it.

01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:15.760
 >> Can we just take off the ones that are checkmarked and let us see what we have left?

01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:16.760
 >> No.

01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:18.720
 I think that's her working document.

01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.800
 >> Is that impossible or irresponsible to do?

01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:22.800
 >> Yeah.

01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:23.800
 >> Okay.

01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:27.080
 Well, I mean, you know, give us a better -- yeah, just pull the other ones out that we --

01:48:27.080 --> 01:48:28.080
 >> Separate.

01:48:28.080 --> 01:48:29.080
 >> Yeah.

01:48:29.080 --> 01:48:30.080
 >> Yeah.

01:48:30.080 --> 01:48:33.560
 I mean, we need to see what we have and what we don't have.

01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:38.380
 >> Well, I just don't know that -- I don't know that it's fair, and staff can correct

01:48:38.380 --> 01:48:39.380
 me if I'm wrong.

01:48:39.380 --> 01:48:43.160
 It's -- do you not need time to work on it to get it right?

01:48:43.160 --> 01:48:46.720
 >> Well, all things with checkmarks, honestly, we're already working on.

01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:47.720
 >> Okay.

01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:48.720
 >> And we just need to give you an update.

01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:49.720
 I'm concerned.

01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:52.840
 I want to know more about the other ones so I know kind of where we're headed because

01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:53.840
 those are the ones.

01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:54.840
 >> Okay.

01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:55.840
 >> Gary can shoot you a list.

01:48:55.840 --> 01:49:16.160
 >> Well, let's just zoom in on -- yeah, just zoom in on it, but --

01:49:16.160 --> 01:49:20.920
 Mayor Pro Tem is in queue, so Mayor Pro Tem, I think you got rid of one that didn't have

01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:21.920
 a check there.

01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:27.880
 This is -- I mean, it's just -- go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem, you have the floor.

01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:32.800
 >> I was just going to concur with the city manager that let -- give her an opportunity

01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:40.880
 to give us a report or a presentation of, you know, the ones where we are and what we

01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:44.360
 think we're doing, and are we matching your priorities cool?

01:49:44.360 --> 01:49:50.360
 And then if we're not posted to make -- to give additional direction, then I think Councilor

01:49:50.360 --> 01:49:52.420
 Watts makes an excellent point.

01:49:52.420 --> 01:49:57.960
 We probably shouldn't be trying to give direction, so that's -- I'll keep it simple.

01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:02.000
 >> Well, but these are -- if -- correct me again if I'm wrong, what you've identified

01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:03.520
 here are initiatives.

01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:04.520
 These aren't priorities.

01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:05.520
 >> Correct.

01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:06.520
 That's right.

01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:11.600
 >> And we don't give -- if we're following the outline that we were provided on slide

01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:17.760
 five, we don't -- management-led is initiatives.

01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:24.120
 So the objectives are public safety, is that right in this example?

01:50:24.120 --> 01:50:25.120
 Or no?

01:50:25.120 --> 01:50:27.520
 >> You mean here, at this level?

01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:32.380
 >> No, even in where you were, just -- where is the -- so in public -- so in public safety,

01:50:32.380 --> 01:50:35.280
 what is the -- if that's the initiative, what's the objective?

01:50:35.280 --> 01:50:42.280
 >> Well, this is -- this ties with our key focus area of safe and healthy community.

01:50:42.280 --> 01:50:49.080
 And then from there, it would tie to enhance -- or build public safety capacity.

01:50:49.080 --> 01:50:50.880
 >> Okay.

01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:56.800
 So I'm just trying to -- I'm trying to stay within the confines you provided us, right?

01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:58.380
 And so I need your help on that.

01:50:58.380 --> 01:51:02.400
 So you talked about council-driven focus areas and objectives.

01:51:02.400 --> 01:51:03.400
 >> Correct.

01:51:03.400 --> 01:51:09.560
 >> So what we have here in the squares are initiatives, which is management-led, based

01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:12.240
 on the slide you provided, is that right?

01:51:12.240 --> 01:51:13.240
 >> Yes.

01:51:13.240 --> 01:51:16.360
 But we do also consider your priorities in that.

01:51:16.360 --> 01:51:17.360
 >> Okay.

01:51:17.360 --> 01:51:18.360
 Well, all right.

01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:23.400
 Then let's just -- we'll just go through the -- is there -- so the question before us is

01:51:23.400 --> 01:51:26.920
 to discuss what doesn't have a checkmark in front of us.

01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:33.000
 That's -- that's -- >> I mean, I don't want to pull a point of

01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.960
 order, but I really do think Council Watch's point is really germane.

01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:39.840
 Can we give direction or not?

01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:41.120
 >> I'm not asking for direction.

01:51:41.120 --> 01:51:42.120
 I said discussion.

01:51:42.120 --> 01:51:43.120
 >> Okay.

01:51:43.120 --> 01:51:45.080
 >> And we are posted to discuss.

01:51:45.080 --> 01:51:46.080
 Yes.

01:51:46.080 --> 01:51:48.320
 Again, I have never asked for direction.

01:51:48.320 --> 01:51:49.320
 That question was asked.

01:51:49.320 --> 01:51:50.320
 I said no.

01:51:50.320 --> 01:51:58.960
 It was proposed a different way than the -- so I just -- I'm trying to -- we are -- we can't

01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:00.440
 -- we have to discuss it.

01:52:00.440 --> 01:52:04.480
 That's -- I think that's what we've been doing the whole time until we hit this hiccup.

01:52:04.480 --> 01:52:09.840
 >> Can someone provide direction on then what the limits are, because if we are -- we sort

01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:15.560
 of did discussion on said what it was and why, so I -- I don't want to get us in trouble

01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:16.560
 or anything.

01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:18.720
 I -- >> Sure.

01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:21.980
 Let's just -- let's just be -- is there anything that -- let's do this.

01:52:21.980 --> 01:52:27.240
 Is there -- if there's anything that someone has an idea that's not captured here, if no

01:52:27.240 --> 01:52:30.360
 -- if yes, then let's put that forward.

01:52:30.360 --> 01:52:32.200
 If not, we'll wrap up.

01:52:32.200 --> 01:52:35.360
 So anything missing from this list?

01:52:35.360 --> 01:52:37.040
 The other checkmarks are on the other page.

01:52:37.040 --> 01:52:39.520
 This is just stuff that's not already in process.

01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:43.860
 Is there anything missing?

01:52:43.860 --> 01:52:46.560
 Seeing none, oh, Councilmember Meltzer?

01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:49.360
 >> Yeah, two things missing.

01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:56.160
 There it's there, and I'm not saying it was charter review.

01:52:56.160 --> 01:53:02.600
 And the other thing missing is just the piece -- process piece to say, can we agree?

01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:09.040
 They will put giving direction after our discussion today on the agenda for the 15th, just so

01:53:09.040 --> 01:53:13.880
 we can do that piece, see if you've got, you know, four more or, you know, however you

01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:18.080
 want to give direction on these items at a future meeting, and the next one's August

01:53:18.080 --> 01:53:19.080
 15th.

01:53:19.080 --> 01:53:20.080
 >> Yeah.

01:53:20.080 --> 01:53:24.040
 So this isn't where -- she's not going to type in the latter part.

01:53:24.040 --> 01:53:27.640
 The former part, is that captured, the charter review?

01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.640
 >> No, not yet.

01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:31.640
 >> Okay.

01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:32.640
 All right.

01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:33.640
 Okay.

01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:34.640
 Anything else?

01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:35.640
 Okay.

01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:36.640
 Great.

01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:37.640
 Thank you.

01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:42.920
 That concludes item A. Let's take a quick break.

01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:48.520
 We'll be back, 1130.

01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:49.520
 Good morning.

01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:50.520
 It's 1131.

01:53:50.520 --> 01:54:00.240
 We're back, and we're set for our next item B, but I -- I know staff has a presentation

01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:07.520
 -- let me see, trying to see how best -- is it best to do the presentation?

01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:15.280
 And then gather questions, then is that -- or do you have milestones along the way to ask

01:54:15.280 --> 01:54:16.280
 questions per department?

01:54:16.280 --> 01:54:17.280
 >> I have milestones, yes.

01:54:17.280 --> 01:54:18.280
 >> Okay.

01:54:18.280 --> 01:54:19.280
 Great.

01:54:19.280 --> 01:54:20.280
 Let's do that.

01:54:20.280 --> 01:54:21.280
 And so it is -- let me get back to that.

01:54:21.280 --> 01:54:27.880
 Item B, which is ID 23272, receive report, hold discussion and give staff direction regarding

01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:35.880
 the FY 2023-24 city manager's proposed budget capital improvements program and five-year

01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:37.840
 financial forecast.

01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:43.880
 >> Good morning, Mayor, City Council, Cassie Ogden, Assistant City Manager, here to present

01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:47.880
 the city manager's proposed budget for FY24.

01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:50.780
 So just a few things we're going to go over today.

01:54:50.780 --> 01:54:55.400
 So just budget overview, we'll go over general fund, all of the enterprise funds, we'll have

01:54:55.400 --> 01:55:01.640
 an update of the capital improvement program, the debt tax rate, internal service funds,

01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:06.160
 revenue funds, we'll give you an update of the ARPA funds, and then go over next steps

01:55:06.160 --> 01:55:09.400
 for the budget.

01:55:09.400 --> 01:55:14.180
 Just a reminder, our budget really is an all-year effort.

01:55:14.180 --> 01:55:18.800
 So we kicked off the CIP budget efforts in December.

01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:23.020
 We started reviewing all of the projects in January.

01:55:23.020 --> 01:55:28.880
 We have reviewed the projects since January, February, March, and then April we started

01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:34.400
 presenting our budget to city manager's office.

01:55:34.400 --> 01:55:40.280
 And then June we went through and presented the utility budgets to PUB and to City Council.

01:55:40.280 --> 01:55:43.680
 And then we are here in August for the budget workshop.

01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:49.640
 And September 26 we're scheduled or City Council is scheduled to adopt the CIP and the operating

01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:56.360
 budget along with the tax rate and the utility rates.

01:55:56.360 --> 01:56:03.920
 So we wanted to provide some economic indicators and some growth that we are seeing as we continue

01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:05.960
 to see strong growth in the city.

01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:09.080
 Just a reminder about the population estimates.

01:56:09.080 --> 01:56:17.540
 We are projecting to be a little over 300,000 people in population by the year 2040.

01:56:17.540 --> 01:56:22.440
 So really we're trying to focus on building the future, planning for that growth, and

01:56:22.440 --> 01:56:27.360
 making sure that we have adequate infrastructure and resources to meet the demand.

01:56:27.360 --> 01:56:29.600
 You can see on the right the building permits.

01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:36.200
 We continue to see strong building permit being issued for commercial and residential

01:56:36.200 --> 01:56:39.640
 throughout the city.

01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:44.480
 So some of the basis for the general fund operating budget, you can see some of our

01:56:44.480 --> 01:56:47.040
 assumptions in the salary adjustments.

01:56:47.040 --> 01:56:55.200
 We just completed the compensation study so that will be fully implemented in 2024 budget.

01:56:55.200 --> 01:57:02.400
 So employees just received their first increase in their checks on July 28th, but those costs

01:57:02.400 --> 01:57:09.440
 are included in the 2024 budget along with a 2% average merit increase for employees.

01:57:09.440 --> 01:57:15.160
 And then we've programmed in 3% in the future years, so 25 through 27.

01:57:15.160 --> 01:57:20.400
 The employer contribution, so with the city's portion of health insurance is increasing

01:57:20.400 --> 01:57:23.400
 about 10% from the previous year.

01:57:23.400 --> 01:57:30.440
 And then our employee contribution are only based on voluntary benefits, so those things

01:57:30.440 --> 01:57:34.920
 that the employees could elect, those are seeing some increases.

01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:42.040
 And then our TMRS rate increased from 18.15% to 18.94%, but that's not effective until

01:57:42.040 --> 01:57:45.560
 January so it's not the full fiscal year.

01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:53.160
 Fire pension contribution remains at 18.5% with their fund being pretty healthy.

01:57:53.160 --> 01:57:57.320
 It's estimated to be 100% funded within nine years.

01:57:57.320 --> 01:58:01.360
 And then the other item that's not on the slide but I wanted to mention is we are going

01:58:01.360 --> 01:58:05.120
 through meet and confer negotiations with fire and so we do have a placeholder item

01:58:05.120 --> 01:58:10.600
 in the budget for those contract negotiations.

01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:16.960
 So with that, the assumptions for general fund, the assessed values we received, the

01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:25.200
 certified values on July 24th, we are seeing a 15% increase from the previous year.

01:58:25.200 --> 01:58:34.280
 You'll see in the general fund forecast that we're assuming the M&O tax rate to decrease

01:58:34.280 --> 01:58:39.600
 in the future years as the AVs continue to increase or we're projecting to continue to

01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:46.200
 increase and then for property taxes we're assuming a 99.5% collection rate based on

01:58:46.200 --> 01:58:48.360
 the current year collection rate.

01:58:48.360 --> 01:58:53.840
 The city manager's proposed budget includes a total proposed tax rate of 56 cents which

01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.800
 is the same as the current fiscal year.

01:58:56.800 --> 01:59:02.640
 Sales tax, the current year we're seeing our sales tax come in right at our current budget

01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:12.540
 so we're only proposing a 1.5% forecast of increase in sales tax over next year.

01:59:12.540 --> 01:59:18.040
 And then in the future years we're estimating 3% increase.

01:59:18.040 --> 01:59:25.520
 The 6% ROI is maintained for the electric fund in FY24 and then we are proposing to

01:59:25.520 --> 01:59:32.880
 increase the amount of franchise fees that goes to street fund by $600,000 for a total

01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:39.920
 of $15.7 million to street improvement fund.

01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:46.680
 So I wanted to show you the tax rate kind of options that council could decide to go

01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:47.680
 with.

01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:53.440
 The proposed tax rate obviously is the current year's tax rate so FY23, no change from current

01:59:53.440 --> 01:59:56.320
 year to next year is what we're proposing.

01:59:56.320 --> 02:00:01.760
 That allows us to fund about $4.9 million in supplementals and you'll see those in

02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:04.800
 a future slide how those are broken out.

02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:13.480
 If council chooses to reduce the tax rate by half a cent, so 55 cents for the tax rate,

02:00:13.480 --> 02:00:19.440
 the general fund could fund about $2.9 million in supplementals and if we went all the way

02:00:19.440 --> 02:00:26.000
 to the no new revenue rate, which I'll show you that it's about 49 cents, we would have

02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:31.900
 a deficit of $5.7 million in the general fund operating budget.

02:00:31.900 --> 02:00:36.200
 And then on the other side of the screen, the half cent increase, we would be able to

02:00:36.200 --> 02:00:48.860
 fund or have a net income of $1.2 above the $4.9 of supplementals that is already proposed.

02:00:48.860 --> 02:00:51.680
 And then wanted to show you the sales tax revenue.

02:00:51.680 --> 02:01:00.020
 You can see in our budget, we're keeping our sales tax estimate for next year relatively

02:01:00.020 --> 02:01:05.640
 flat based on the current sales tax collection, but we have seen strong sales tax collections

02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:10.460
 over the last couple of years.

02:01:10.460 --> 02:01:16.720
 And then the appraised values, so you can see the percent increase overall, 15% increase

02:01:16.720 --> 02:01:19.740
 from 2022.

02:01:19.740 --> 02:01:24.380
 You can see the $1 billion in new value, which is substantial.

02:01:24.380 --> 02:01:33.320
 It's large increase from last year and then $1.5 billion change in existing properties.

02:01:33.320 --> 02:01:38.660
 As of the July 24th, when we received the certified values, there were still 1.3% under

02:01:38.660 --> 02:01:42.640
 review by the appraisal district.

02:01:42.640 --> 02:01:49.320
 And then excluding the frozen values, it was about 8.8% increase.

02:01:49.320 --> 02:01:56.080
 The average residential home value did increase about $37,000.

02:01:56.080 --> 02:02:02.520
 So went from $307,283 to $344,731.

02:02:02.520 --> 02:02:11.920
 So substantial increase from last year on the average residential home value.

02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:18.360
 As you know, the appraisal growth, we forecast very conservatively for appraisal growth.

02:02:18.360 --> 02:02:25.080
 Generally about 5% is what we forecast every year, just because we never know how the conditions

02:02:25.080 --> 02:02:26.400
 in the marketplace.

02:02:26.400 --> 02:02:32.420
 So you can see over the last couple of years, we've had a really high growth trend.

02:02:32.420 --> 02:02:37.240
 However, several years before that, we actually had negative.

02:02:37.240 --> 02:02:40.800
 So that's one of the reasons we are very conservative in our growth forecast.

02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:45.320
 If it comes in higher than what we budgeted, obviously, then we have a surplus.

02:02:45.320 --> 02:02:51.420
 But generally, we have a good indicator as the appraisal district starts sending us the

02:02:51.420 --> 02:02:57.480
 reports in late May from when we received certified values in July.

02:02:57.480 --> 02:03:04.440
 But over the 10 years, we've had about 9% is the average growth in appraised assessed

02:03:04.440 --> 02:03:07.560
 value.

02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:12.640
 So I know most of you know these definitions, but just wanted to give you a reminder.

02:03:12.640 --> 02:03:18.960
 So when we talk about the tax rate, the no new revenue rate is the calculated rate that

02:03:18.960 --> 02:03:24.000
 it would bring in about the same amount of revenue on the existing properties from both

02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:25.000
 years.

02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:30.640
 So same properties on the roll last year that are on this year, that's how much we would

02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:33.860
 need to collect the same amount of revenue.

02:03:33.860 --> 02:03:40.020
 The voter approval rate is the maximum allowed by law without having going to the voters

02:03:40.020 --> 02:03:43.200
 to approve a tax rate increase.

02:03:43.200 --> 02:03:45.000
 There are two parts to our tax rate.

02:03:45.000 --> 02:03:48.520
 So the M&O rate is maintenance and operations.

02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:51.760
 And that's really the portion that funds our general fund operations.

02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:59.560
 So all those police fire services, parks, our administration functions, HR, all of those

02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:03.040
 things are funded through just the M&O portion of the tax rate.

02:04:03.040 --> 02:04:07.040
 The INS tax portion is just the debt service.

02:04:07.040 --> 02:04:13.340
 So all of the debt that's sold on the general government side, we calculate what we need

02:04:13.340 --> 02:04:21.080
 to pay that debt service every year, and that's the portion of the INS rate.

02:04:21.080 --> 02:04:28.360
 So the proposed tax rate, this is how it breaks down to 35 and a half cents going to fund

02:04:28.360 --> 02:04:35.840
 general fund operations, and the debt service is 20.5 cents going -- needed to pay just

02:04:35.840 --> 02:04:38.140
 the debt service for the general fund.

02:04:38.140 --> 02:04:44.840
 So the general fund portion of the debt, not including the utilities.

02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:48.840
 The no new revenue rate this year is calculated at 49 cents.

02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:51.720
 And then the voter approval rate is 63 cents.

02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:57.120
 So we're falling right in the middle there at the proposed tax rate of 56 cents.

02:04:57.120 --> 02:05:02.600
 And that's per $100 valuation.

02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:07.320
 So I wanted to provide a comparison of how we compare to some other surrounding cities

02:05:07.320 --> 02:05:09.560
 in the Metroplex.

02:05:09.560 --> 02:05:12.200
 And you can see this is total tax rate.

02:05:12.200 --> 02:05:17.280
 So that M&O rate plus our INS rate or debt service rate is our total tax rate.

02:05:17.280 --> 02:05:22.480
 So we're right at 56 cents, which is kind of comparable to Richardson.

02:05:22.480 --> 02:05:23.480
 Plano is a little lower.

02:05:23.480 --> 02:05:27.120
 They don't have as much debt as part of their tax rate.

02:05:27.120 --> 02:05:33.200
 But you can see Dallas is almost 75 cents, Garland 71 cents.

02:05:33.200 --> 02:05:44.000
 So we're on the lower end of these specific cities.

02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:50.320
 Here's a comparison of prior years, so that average taxable value we showed earlier.

02:05:50.320 --> 02:05:57.760
 You can see because we're not proposing a total tax rate increase, but the average taxable

02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:59.840
 home value did increase.

02:05:59.840 --> 02:06:03.840
 It is translating into an increase in the average tax bill.

02:06:03.840 --> 02:06:11.080
 So that's about $209 a year or $17.41 a month.

02:06:11.080 --> 02:06:15.320
 I think the thing to keep in mind on this slide that is important is this operations

02:06:15.320 --> 02:06:16.320
 rate.

02:06:16.320 --> 02:06:20.680
 This is the general fund portion, this is what's going to fund those general fund operations.

02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:27.080
 This portion of the tax rate has decreased 7 cents since 2018.

02:06:27.080 --> 02:06:32.600
 So what we've needed to fund general fund operations is actually decrease 7 cents while

02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:37.560
 keeping the debt rate relatively flat during that same time.

02:06:37.560 --> 02:06:43.140
 The thing that's important about that is we had a 2019 bond program that was expected

02:06:43.140 --> 02:06:46.640
 to increase our debt portion of our tax rate about 3.5 cents.

02:06:46.640 --> 02:06:50.820
 We didn't see that happen because those assessed values came in really strong.

02:06:50.820 --> 02:06:54.400
 So while we're trying to keep our debt low, at the same time we're trying to keep our

02:06:54.400 --> 02:06:57.760
 operating expenses low and manageable.

02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:07.280
 And so we've actually decreased the tax rate 7 cents since 2018.

02:07:07.280 --> 02:07:13.080
 Assemblymember Meltzer specifically requested a comparison to CPI.

02:07:13.080 --> 02:07:18.120
 So we showed a 7 year average tax bill and how it compares to CPI.

02:07:18.120 --> 02:07:22.120
 So this year we are outpacing CPI.

02:07:22.120 --> 02:07:24.480
 There's been a couple of years we've outpaced CPI.

02:07:24.480 --> 02:07:27.840
 It's not a flat line.

02:07:27.840 --> 02:07:31.600
 But again, I want to reiterate that growth.

02:07:31.600 --> 02:07:36.320
 One of the reasons we're proposing to keep the same tax rate even though the assessed

02:07:36.320 --> 02:07:40.400
 value is increasing is because of one, the council priorities.

02:07:40.400 --> 02:07:44.760
 The things that you all have said are priorities in the budget that we want to fund.

02:07:44.760 --> 02:07:47.400
 Like public safety.

02:07:47.400 --> 02:07:50.040
 Those things increase our costs.

02:07:50.040 --> 02:07:52.960
 Personnel, equipment, things like that.

02:07:52.960 --> 02:08:00.920
 And so that's one of the reasons you're seeing that average tax bill increase from 23 to

02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:03.040
 24.

02:08:03.040 --> 02:08:04.040
 New value.

02:08:04.040 --> 02:08:10.000
 So we saw a substantial increase in our new value this year compared to previous years.

02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:13.000
 So I wanted to highlight that for council.

02:08:13.000 --> 02:08:16.320
 I know I received a question about what's in this new value.

02:08:16.320 --> 02:08:18.600
 Is it residential versus commercial?

02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:19.600
 What's the mix?

02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:20.960
 I don't have that information yet.

02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:26.640
 I have to ask the appraisal district to give me more information on what that mix is in

02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:27.640
 the new value.

02:08:27.640 --> 02:08:30.140
 So I'll follow up with council on that.

02:08:30.140 --> 02:08:41.000
 But that's approximately 3.6 million in revenue to the general fund based on that new value.

02:08:41.000 --> 02:08:44.640
 So I know this is what everyone's been waiting on, that general fund forecast.

02:08:44.640 --> 02:08:49.320
 So you can see a couple of things I wanted to point out.

02:08:49.320 --> 02:08:54.920
 Our general fund forecast this year includes the rec fund revenue and expenses coming into

02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:55.920
 general fund.

02:08:55.920 --> 02:08:58.400
 That was previously a separate fund.

02:08:58.400 --> 02:09:04.160
 However, because that fund was substantially funded by general fund transfers, we felt

02:09:04.160 --> 02:09:09.060
 like it was more transparent to dissolve the fund and show it all in general fund.

02:09:09.060 --> 02:09:12.600
 So you're seeing some increases in service fees.

02:09:12.600 --> 02:09:16.000
 That includes that rec fund fees.

02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:18.960
 And then also the personnel expenses increase.

02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:24.640
 It's about $4 million that we brought in from the rec fund expenses.

02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:31.640
 And then other revenue, you see the $38.9 million in the FY24 proposed.

02:09:31.640 --> 02:09:38.160
 That includes ROI, franchise fee, and the transfers from other internal service funds

02:09:38.160 --> 02:09:39.800
 and utility funds.

02:09:39.800 --> 02:09:49.380
 So their portion to pay HR, CMO, tech services, those types of transfers, those are included

02:09:49.380 --> 02:09:52.300
 in that $38.9 million.

02:09:52.300 --> 02:09:57.480
 On the flip side of those are the revenues, the transfers out, so our portion to pay those

02:09:57.480 --> 02:10:03.280
 other internal service funds is included in the $22.6 million in transfers.

02:10:03.280 --> 02:10:07.180
 So we have a cost allocation model that we updated last year.

02:10:07.180 --> 02:10:11.760
 We keep that model updated and make sure we're paying our proportionate share of each of

02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:14.840
 the internal service funds.

02:10:14.840 --> 02:10:21.480
 You'll see the personnel services, that's a substantial increase from the prior year.

02:10:21.480 --> 02:10:26.680
 That does include the fully loaded comp and class increases.

02:10:26.680 --> 02:10:34.120
 So that was about almost $9 million for the entire city of increasing those personnel

02:10:34.120 --> 02:10:36.160
 costs.

02:10:36.160 --> 02:10:37.280
 But that's fully loaded.

02:10:37.280 --> 02:10:45.800
 And it does include a 2% average merit increase for '24 for our personnel.

02:10:45.800 --> 02:10:47.400
 So this is a balanced budget.

02:10:47.400 --> 02:10:49.720
 Net income is zero.

02:10:49.720 --> 02:10:54.040
 We are drawing down the '23 fund balance.

02:10:54.040 --> 02:11:00.480
 That is based on council's direction to fund the one-time Bezos Academy funding out of

02:11:00.480 --> 02:11:01.980
 current year fund balance.

02:11:01.980 --> 02:11:07.840
 So that's included in the FY '23 estimate.

02:11:07.840 --> 02:11:13.800
 Other notable items, we are keeping our fund balance above that fund balance target of

02:11:13.800 --> 02:11:17.480
 20 to 25% fund balance.

02:11:17.480 --> 02:11:25.240
 In FY '28, that's expected to be 26%, which is a good thing when we go to get rated by

02:11:25.240 --> 02:11:28.640
 our rating agencies for our bond rating.

02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:33.800
 That decreases our interest rate costs if we can maintain our high credit rating -- bond

02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:39.240
 rating, excuse me.

02:11:39.240 --> 02:11:42.920
 And then may I have a couple more slides until a break and then we can have questions.

02:11:42.920 --> 02:11:48.200
 So I already mentioned these proposed supplementals of 4.9 million.

02:11:48.200 --> 02:11:54.600
 So here's a list of the individual supplementals that the city manager is proposing funding

02:11:54.600 --> 02:11:56.320
 for next year.

02:11:56.320 --> 02:11:58.640
 I've already mentioned the merit increase.

02:11:58.640 --> 02:12:01.800
 That's a 2% average for employees.

02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:05.620
 Fire is requesting six additional FTEs.

02:12:05.620 --> 02:12:10.120
 That's mainly for fire station number 9.

02:12:10.120 --> 02:12:15.080
 And then police is requesting three additional FTEs.

02:12:15.080 --> 02:12:20.900
 Streets -- we brought counsel the presentation in January on roadway funding strategies.

02:12:20.900 --> 02:12:28.240
 So how do we start funding more roadways with cash or revenue funding versus relying on

02:12:28.240 --> 02:12:29.960
 debt funding?

02:12:29.960 --> 02:12:36.040
 So the presentation proposed $5 million a year in revenue funding, additional revenue

02:12:36.040 --> 02:12:43.040
 funding needed for street reconstructions, we're proposing $1 million to start based

02:12:43.040 --> 02:12:48.560
 on, you know, the current budget, but again, this is a counsel decision point as to whether

02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:54.160
 you want to continue -- or propose to fund $1 million or change that amount.

02:12:54.160 --> 02:13:00.620
 Community services, we're requesting one additional FTE that's a community improvement officer

02:13:00.620 --> 02:13:04.920
 for solid waste that is actually funded from the solid waste fund, so there's a transfer

02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:10.200
 coming back to general fund to pay for that FTE, but wanted to show you that.

02:13:10.200 --> 02:13:15.560
 And then also the ambassador program, which you've already, you know, seen and given direction

02:13:15.560 --> 02:13:18.840
 to proceed with that two-year pilot program.

02:13:18.840 --> 02:13:24.480
 Animal services is requesting additional FTE for an animal services technician.

02:13:24.480 --> 02:13:27.480
 Development services is requesting two FTEs.

02:13:27.480 --> 02:13:33.800
 These are covered, though, through their fees, so this is not an additional expense to general

02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:37.800
 fund because it is covered by their revenue that they're bringing in.

02:13:37.800 --> 02:13:41.120
 Library is requesting a part-time FTE.

02:13:41.120 --> 02:13:50.240
 HR is requesting one FTE plus some money to do a reorganization of their group.

02:13:50.240 --> 02:13:54.440
 And then Parks and Rec is requesting one and a half FTEs.

02:13:54.440 --> 02:14:01.680
 They're proposing to bring the Parks Foundation position in-house and make that a city FTE,

02:14:01.680 --> 02:14:04.440
 so that's one and a half of that FTE.

02:14:04.440 --> 02:14:08.680
 And then internal audit is requesting a compliance specialist.

02:14:08.680 --> 02:14:15.680
 Economic development is requesting one FTE along with a contract increase for the EDP.

02:14:15.680 --> 02:14:18.880
 They're proposing to bring the Main Street position in-house.

02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:21.200
 That's currently a contracted position.

02:14:21.200 --> 02:14:24.680
 They're requesting to bring that FTE into the general fund.

02:14:24.680 --> 02:14:29.520
 And then the city manager's office is requesting one FTE as a senior management analyst.

02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:39.120
 That's to handle engaged dentin requests and assist our upcoming communications officer.

02:14:39.120 --> 02:14:47.500
 So total of 19 new FTEs proposed with $4.9 million.

02:14:47.500 --> 02:14:51.960
 And then one-time expenses in the current year, I already mentioned the Bezos Academy,

02:14:51.960 --> 02:14:54.260
 the $1.5 million.

02:14:54.260 --> 02:14:57.080
 Police is requesting additional funding for body armor.

02:14:57.080 --> 02:15:02.040
 That's a one-time expense of $196,000.

02:15:02.040 --> 02:15:07.400
 Legal is requesting a couple of items, so security system, case management software,

02:15:07.400 --> 02:15:10.480
 conference room, furniture.

02:15:10.480 --> 02:15:15.520
 Library is asking for a move of their municipal archives, so some funding to allow them to

02:15:15.520 --> 02:15:16.520
 do that.

02:15:16.520 --> 02:15:20.760
 And then additional library improvements, so building improvements for the libraries

02:15:20.760 --> 02:15:28.200
 of $1.7 million, and that was included in the '23 estimate.

02:15:28.200 --> 02:15:29.680
 And with that, I'll take any questions.

02:15:29.680 --> 02:15:30.680
 >> Okay.

02:15:30.680 --> 02:15:33.360
 And so this would be questions.

02:15:33.360 --> 02:15:36.880
 So after we get the questions out, we'll touch on those.

02:15:36.880 --> 02:15:42.480
 Lunch is here, but I want to get through the questions, make sure we can cut the directors

02:15:42.480 --> 02:15:43.920
 loose after this.

02:15:43.920 --> 02:15:50.960
 So if there's any department-specific questions while the director's here, and they need to

02:15:50.960 --> 02:15:57.120
 speak to those and get those in, and then we'll break, let them break and go from there.

02:15:57.120 --> 02:15:58.120
 Okay?

02:15:58.120 --> 02:15:59.120
 Questions?

02:15:59.120 --> 02:16:00.120
 Councilman Watts.

02:16:00.120 --> 02:16:03.000
 >> Let me make sure I understand what you just said.

02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:07.480
 So my questions are basically based on her presentation, some very quick questions.

02:16:07.480 --> 02:16:12.880
 Are you saying that if there's questions for these enterprise funds coming up, those need

02:16:12.880 --> 02:16:14.760
 to be asked at this time as well?

02:16:14.760 --> 02:16:15.760
 >> Yes.

02:16:15.760 --> 02:16:16.760
 Yes.

02:16:16.760 --> 02:16:23.120
 Because with that, I would think with the overview, that would guide potentially for

02:16:23.120 --> 02:16:27.240
 some of the enterprise or transfers, that sort of thing, questions.

02:16:27.240 --> 02:16:29.160
 But yes, trying to pool all those there.

02:16:29.160 --> 02:16:30.160
 >> Sure.

02:16:30.160 --> 02:16:31.160
 Okay.

02:16:31.160 --> 02:16:32.160
 All right.

02:16:32.160 --> 02:16:33.160
 Just a couple.

02:16:33.160 --> 02:16:39.420
 On slide nine, just for clarification, you talk about the net between the different tax

02:16:39.420 --> 02:16:51.620
 rate proposals, the 5.725198, that is if -- discussion purposes, we went down to the .494865.

02:16:51.620 --> 02:16:55.600
 The net includes the supplementals that are being requested at this time?

02:16:55.600 --> 02:16:56.600
 Is that right?

02:16:56.600 --> 02:16:57.600
 >> I believe so.

02:16:57.600 --> 02:16:58.600
 Yes.

02:16:58.600 --> 02:16:59.600
 >> All right.

02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:01.480
 So then if we got 5.7, I think the supplementals were 4.9.

02:17:01.480 --> 02:17:03.680
 >> Well, actually, I'd take that back.

02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:05.420
 The supplementals are showing zero.

02:17:05.420 --> 02:17:09.280
 So it would be -- >> So we're behind from where -- so we're

02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:12.080
 spending 5.7 more in the expense side.

02:17:12.080 --> 02:17:13.080
 >> Right.

02:17:13.080 --> 02:17:14.080
 >> Then we -- okay.

02:17:14.080 --> 02:17:15.080
 Got you.

02:17:15.080 --> 02:17:20.280
 And then on the no new revenue rate, do you break -- is that broken down into M&O and

02:17:20.280 --> 02:17:22.380
 debt service?

02:17:22.380 --> 02:17:23.520
 For the no new revenue rate?

02:17:23.520 --> 02:17:24.520
 I know you broke down the proposal.

02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:27.520
 >> So the no new revenue rate is for the total tax rate.

02:17:27.520 --> 02:17:28.520
 >> Right.

02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:33.120
 >> So it would be the 49 -- we would -- the debt service doesn't change.

02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:34.120
 So -- >> Okay.

02:17:34.120 --> 02:17:39.380
 >> So it would be the 20 cents minus -- so it would be 39 something -- or 29 something.

02:17:39.380 --> 02:17:40.380
 >> 20.

02:17:40.380 --> 02:17:41.380
 >> Okay.

02:17:41.380 --> 02:17:42.380
 All right.

02:17:42.380 --> 02:17:44.560
 And then let's see here.

02:17:44.560 --> 02:17:52.360
 Going to the -- the supplementals, I guess.

02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:59.920
 The street -- the roadway funding strategy, I know we talked about that.

02:17:59.920 --> 02:18:08.720
 And so we're trying to do less debt funding and more cash -- is that right?

02:18:08.720 --> 02:18:09.720
 >> Yes.

02:18:09.720 --> 02:18:16.360
 >> Which means we're trying to reduce the amount of the debt service rate.

02:18:16.360 --> 02:18:21.000
 Because if you're reducing debt, if you're not having as much debt, you're not raising

02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:23.320
 the rate to -- and you're shifting it.

02:18:23.320 --> 02:18:28.640
 You're shifting it from cash, which would go to the M&O rate, and taking it out of the

02:18:28.640 --> 02:18:29.840
 debt service rate.

02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:35.120
 That's conceptually -- this is so de minimis, it doesn't really even make a difference.

02:18:35.120 --> 02:18:37.240
 But okay.

02:18:37.240 --> 02:18:43.920
 And then the one-time service, the one-time fees, are those coming out of the general

02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:44.920
 fund balance?

02:18:44.920 --> 02:18:46.760
 I mean, where does this fit into the budget?

02:18:46.760 --> 02:18:54.240
 >> So the general fund, it's only drawing down -- because of our current estimates for

02:18:54.240 --> 02:18:55.240
 how we're going to end the year --

02:18:55.240 --> 02:18:56.240
 >> Right.

02:18:56.240 --> 02:18:59.600
 >> -- we're estimating to be a little higher on revenues than what we originally proposed

02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:00.720
 in the budget.

02:19:00.720 --> 02:19:07.000
 So we're only drawing down the fund balance by $666,000 to fund all of those one-time

02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:08.000
 expenses.

02:19:08.000 --> 02:19:09.000
 >> Those one-time expenses, okay.

02:19:09.000 --> 02:19:13.720
 So those are separate from the 4.9 supplemental and the tax rate, the proposed tax rate?

02:19:13.720 --> 02:19:14.720
 >> Correct.

02:19:14.720 --> 02:19:19.520
 >> So if you wanted either a tax rate decrease or increase, those supplementals would shift

02:19:19.520 --> 02:19:20.520
 accordingly?

02:19:20.520 --> 02:19:21.520
 >> Yes.

02:19:21.520 --> 02:19:22.520
 >> Okay.

02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:26.280
 I think -- let me go to the mayor real quick.

02:19:26.280 --> 02:19:28.680
 I sent you some questions that I think you answered.

02:19:28.680 --> 02:19:34.800
 Just as a heads-up to the -- not heads-up, but information to the council, because I

02:19:34.800 --> 02:19:42.400
 think that the $1 billion new value is quite remarkable, and that -- at least from what

02:19:42.400 --> 02:19:50.240
 I've got from the 2022 certified and 2023 certified rolls from the county -- that's

02:19:50.240 --> 02:19:56.040
 about a 72% increase, or plus or minus, over last year.

02:19:56.040 --> 02:20:02.160
 And a lot of that is -- of course, you've got your single-family residential, your multifamily,

02:20:02.160 --> 02:20:09.360
 but also in commercial, the item called commercial real property, it went from -- I think it

02:20:09.360 --> 02:20:15.640
 was 97 -- yeah, $97 million to $298 million.

02:20:15.640 --> 02:20:17.560
 >> That was for the total certified.

02:20:17.560 --> 02:20:18.560
 >> Right.

02:20:18.560 --> 02:20:19.560
 >> Yeah.

02:20:19.560 --> 02:20:20.560
 >> Yeah.

02:20:20.560 --> 02:20:21.560
 >> Yeah.

02:20:21.560 --> 02:20:22.560
 >> Yes.

02:20:22.560 --> 02:20:23.560
 Yeah.

02:20:23.560 --> 02:20:24.560
 Well, that shows under new value.

02:20:24.560 --> 02:20:25.560
 >> Oh, okay.

02:20:25.560 --> 02:20:29.960
 >> So it was 97 new value, and this year it was 298 new value.

02:20:29.960 --> 02:20:30.960
 >> Right.

02:20:30.960 --> 02:20:31.960
 >> They're separate.

02:20:31.960 --> 02:20:32.960
 >> Right.

02:20:32.960 --> 02:20:33.960
 >> Yeah.

02:20:33.960 --> 02:20:34.960
 Okay.

02:20:34.960 --> 02:20:35.960
 And then let me think.

02:20:35.960 --> 02:20:43.040
 Let me just make sure I got all this -- okay.

02:20:43.040 --> 02:20:44.800
 Something might pop up, but that's helpful.

02:20:44.800 --> 02:20:47.800
 Thank you.

02:20:47.800 --> 02:20:57.320
 >> Okay, any other questions?

02:20:57.320 --> 02:20:59.320
 Councilmember Magee, Mayor Partem.

02:20:59.320 --> 02:21:02.600
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

02:21:02.600 --> 02:21:06.020
 I obviously have some questions for Cassie.

02:21:06.020 --> 02:21:09.840
 With your permission, may I ask Councilmember Meltzer a question to lead with?

02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:10.840
 >> Sure.

02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:15.960
 >> So I remember hearing you talk about this, and Cassie noted in her presentation.

02:21:15.960 --> 02:21:20.360
 So we got information about what the tax bill is.

02:21:20.360 --> 02:21:25.320
 So given that information, what does that say to you about the tax bill increasing?

02:21:25.320 --> 02:21:26.320
 >> Yeah.

02:21:26.320 --> 02:21:32.520
 Well, you know, what I'm -- what I want to do is just be as transparent with the public

02:21:32.520 --> 02:21:36.520
 as possible about whether we're voting to increase their taxes or not.

02:21:36.520 --> 02:21:38.160
 When you talk about the tax rate, I mean --

02:21:38.160 --> 02:21:39.160
 >> Okay.

02:21:39.160 --> 02:21:42.800
 >> You know, pay the tax rate, already check for the tax rate, you write a bill.

02:21:42.800 --> 02:21:47.960
 So now I specifically -- I actually asked for the wage inflation rate, not the CPI,

02:21:47.960 --> 02:21:51.200
 but amounts to the same thing right now, it's about four, four and a half percent.

02:21:51.200 --> 02:21:55.360
 You know, whether your home goes up in value if you're a homeowner doesn't necessarily

02:21:55.360 --> 02:22:00.760
 affect your ability to pay more taxes, right, until you sell it.

02:22:00.760 --> 02:22:06.680
 But wage inflation rate could give some indication of whether people are able to pay more.

02:22:06.680 --> 02:22:14.480
 So you know, I'd be interested in if it's four, four and a half percent more is what

02:22:14.480 --> 02:22:18.520
 people are able to pay, what would that translate to budget-wise?

02:22:18.520 --> 02:22:20.440
 What would the gap be?

02:22:20.440 --> 02:22:28.320
 And then, you know, what would -- what would staff prioritize as urgent and important?

02:22:28.320 --> 02:22:37.120
 You know, I'm perfectly willing to go to the taxpayers and say we want to go beyond

02:22:37.120 --> 02:22:43.480
 your increased ability to pay, you know, do a 12 percent increase in your taxes because

02:22:43.480 --> 02:22:47.120
 there are things that are urgent and important and we don't have things that are less urgent

02:22:47.120 --> 02:22:50.000
 and less important that we could cut at this time.

02:22:50.000 --> 02:22:53.440
 You know, I mean, that's -- but I just want to be transparent about it.

02:22:53.440 --> 02:23:01.880
 So at least as like a gut check, I'd be interested to see where would increasing with the wage

02:23:01.880 --> 02:23:08.400
 inflation rate put us and what would -- what would kind of be on the bubble if we took

02:23:08.400 --> 02:23:09.400
 that approach.

02:23:09.400 --> 02:23:12.680
 And then, like I said, if there's things we say -- that we want to say, hey, those are

02:23:12.680 --> 02:23:17.240
 urgent and important, taxpayers, we need you to pay more to fund them, you know, then that's

02:23:17.240 --> 02:23:20.240
 -- that's an option.

02:23:20.240 --> 02:23:29.400
 Thank you. For Madam City Manager, I didn't see an external comms person in there. A comms

02:23:29.400 --> 02:23:30.400
 person?

02:23:30.400 --> 02:23:32.320
 There -- I'm taking an existing vacancy.

02:23:32.320 --> 02:23:42.680
 Oh, okay. Okay. I appreciate that. So Cassie, going back to slide six, you talked about

02:23:42.680 --> 02:23:51.600
 the fire pension fund. How does that compare with areas around us?

02:23:51.600 --> 02:23:55.120
 I believe, and I can go back and look at some of the areas, but --

02:23:55.120 --> 02:23:58.600
 Yeah, just -- just -- I mean, no need to go in research.

02:23:58.600 --> 02:24:03.160
 We're -- we're in a good place with our fire pension fund. It's -- it's funded adequately,

02:24:03.160 --> 02:24:04.160
 so.

02:24:04.160 --> 02:24:05.160
 Okay.

02:24:05.160 --> 02:24:08.900
 Councilmember, just so you know, we're way ahead, I mean, considering other cities who

02:24:08.900 --> 02:24:11.960
 are struggling to fund their fire pension.

02:24:11.960 --> 02:24:12.960
 Okay. That's what I was asking.

02:24:12.960 --> 02:24:13.960
 We're doing really well.

02:24:13.960 --> 02:24:15.400
 Okay. Great. Well, thank you.

02:24:15.400 --> 02:24:18.600
 And Council has made that a priority in recent years.

02:24:18.600 --> 02:24:26.320
 Okay. Thank you for that. Jumping ahead to eight, in '24-'25, we think there's going

02:24:26.320 --> 02:24:30.680
 to be a 3% increase on the sales tax. Can you say more about that?

02:24:30.680 --> 02:24:35.640
 So last year, I actually had the future years at 5%. Based on the current year collection,

02:24:35.640 --> 02:24:44.480
 I've brought that down to about 3%. We are right at our budget, collections-wise, this

02:24:44.480 --> 02:24:45.480
 year.

02:24:45.480 --> 02:24:46.480
 This year?

02:24:46.480 --> 02:24:49.440
 So I don't -- it's relatively flat, is what I'm proposing.

02:24:49.440 --> 02:24:50.440
 Okay.

02:24:50.440 --> 02:24:54.480
 For the out years.

02:24:54.480 --> 02:25:03.160
 And jumping ahead to slide 15, Councilmember Holland and I both appreciated this. Whenever

02:25:03.160 --> 02:25:10.880
 I'm seeing comparative charts, I like to put -- compare Denton to McKinney. He mentioned

02:25:10.880 --> 02:25:16.720
 Louisville. Any idea kind of where -- what McKinney's rate is?

02:25:16.720 --> 02:25:18.360
 I don't know. I'll see if I have that.

02:25:18.360 --> 02:25:26.840
 Okay. Or Louisville's. It's just helpful to me thinking about the size difference there.

02:25:26.840 --> 02:25:32.260
 And last one with the roadway fees. What have y'all done in the past in terms of how you

02:25:32.260 --> 02:25:37.160
 funded this? I remember when we had this discussion earlier this year, we needed $5 million. We

02:25:37.160 --> 02:25:44.000
 talked about a tax on utility bills and whatnot. What has been done under previous Councils

02:25:44.000 --> 02:25:50.240
 going way back, perhaps, when Burroughs or Mr. Watts was in the Cabinet?

02:25:50.240 --> 02:25:57.760
 Previous Councils, they started increasing it based on the franchise fee revenue. So

02:25:57.760 --> 02:26:04.480
 the revenue that the City collects for those utilities using our right-of-way or the franchise

02:26:04.480 --> 02:26:12.200
 fee, they were increasing about $600,000 a year, which is what we've done. We also -- that's

02:26:12.200 --> 02:26:17.540
 one of the reasons that the utilities sell COs. They issue COs now instead of revenue

02:26:17.540 --> 02:26:23.020
 bonds is because the difference in the interest rates between the City's credit rating and

02:26:23.020 --> 02:26:28.940
 the utilities system credit bond rating, that difference goes to fund a portion of the streets

02:26:28.940 --> 02:26:34.960
 improvement fund also. And quite honestly, previous Councils were relying on -- we were

02:26:34.960 --> 02:26:40.400
 relying on debt. That's one of the reasons you saw the numbers from the 2019 bond program.

02:26:40.400 --> 02:26:48.180
 The majority of that was the roadway improvements. Same with 2014. 2012 was only debt for roadways.

02:26:48.180 --> 02:26:54.460
 We have been very reliant on debt to fund our infrastructure. And so the point of the

02:26:54.460 --> 02:27:00.480
 roadway funding strategy discussion is, how do we maintain our roads but also get away

02:27:00.480 --> 02:27:04.940
 from that heavy debt reliance? Because what happens is, like in 2019, we issue a large

02:27:04.940 --> 02:27:11.380
 amount of debt, and so our tax rate creeps up for several years, and then we kind of

02:27:11.380 --> 02:27:15.980
 normalize, but then we have this whole amount of roadway that needs to be redone. So for

02:27:15.980 --> 02:27:21.620
 instance, 2026, we're going to come and need a significant amount of roadway redone, and

02:27:21.620 --> 02:27:26.100
 the only way to pay for that all at once is through debt. So this was saying over a 40-year

02:27:26.100 --> 02:27:32.220
 window, how do we reduce that reliance on debt funding? And so it's not going to fix

02:27:32.220 --> 02:27:37.500
 the problem in the short term, but you're going to see in that 40-year window, you're

02:27:37.500 --> 02:27:44.380
 going to see less reliance on debt. So to your point, Councilmember Watts, it won't

02:27:44.380 --> 02:27:49.460
 decrease it because you still have that backlog that you're trying to make up for, but over

02:27:49.460 --> 02:27:55.260
 the 40-year, you should see a decrease in your overall debt tax rate.

02:27:55.260 --> 02:28:00.700
 And last question, Mr. Mayor, for you or for staff. So specifically with this discussion,

02:28:00.700 --> 02:28:05.020
 roadway funding strategies, is this going to be brought back to us again in work session

02:28:05.020 --> 02:28:08.600
 form? We're going to have to have some more discussion about this, whether we like that

02:28:08.600 --> 02:28:13.540
 one million amount or whatnot. So how's that going to work?

02:28:13.540 --> 02:28:19.660
 I would like direction today on how Council feels about the one million. And then we do

02:28:19.660 --> 02:28:24.780
 have follow-up budget discussions scheduled from now until budget adoption on the 26th

02:28:24.780 --> 02:28:32.620
 of September. But the more direction I can get today, the more I can make some different

02:28:32.620 --> 02:28:36.140
 decisions or make the changes to the budget and then bring that back to show you what

02:28:36.140 --> 02:28:38.740
 it looks like. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

02:28:38.740 --> 02:28:44.380
 Thank you, Mayor Proctor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So two quick questions,

02:28:44.380 --> 02:28:50.300
 and I think I understand, but I just want to be clear to make sure. Of the supplementals,

02:28:50.300 --> 02:28:57.420
 the total is $4.9. We're proposing $3.1 in essentially FTEs and $1.8 in one-times, is

02:28:57.420 --> 02:28:59.780
 that correct? No.

02:28:59.780 --> 02:29:04.780
 So the $1.8 in one-time expenditures is in the $4.9 total?

02:29:04.780 --> 02:29:09.140
 Are you talking about the one-time expenses, this $1.8, $1.7?

02:29:09.140 --> 02:29:13.380
 Yes. That is not included in the $4.9 million.

02:29:13.380 --> 02:29:17.220
 So it's $5 million in an additional $1.8 million.

02:29:17.220 --> 02:29:20.500
 Correct. Okay. All right. All right. I did have it screwed

02:29:20.500 --> 02:29:25.500
 up. Thank you for clarifying that. And then my other question picks up from Councilman

02:29:25.500 --> 02:29:34.740
 Lee. I do think we need to have a robust discussion about that. This is the streets, sorry. If

02:29:34.740 --> 02:29:41.500
 we have $1 million in streets, but we are proposing that we need $5 million, what is

02:29:41.500 --> 02:29:47.980
 the delay in getting to the desired funding street level?

02:29:47.980 --> 02:29:53.900
 So essentially, it's a kicking the can mechanism and using time to leverage instead of money.

02:29:53.900 --> 02:30:00.600
 So is that all the way out to 40 years before we can compensate? Or how soon, if we start

02:30:00.600 --> 02:30:07.620
 at one, will that be enough? And if it's not, then how fast will we have to ramp up? And

02:30:07.620 --> 02:30:12.180
 over what time period will it kick in? That may be out of scope for this conversation,

02:30:12.180 --> 02:30:17.060
 so I'd be willing to let it be at another. But I'm concerned that if we have a need

02:30:17.060 --> 02:30:21.260
 for five and we're proposing one, what does that do to us?

02:30:21.260 --> 02:30:26.060
 I think a couple of things. So I think it depends on how quickly Council is willing

02:30:26.060 --> 02:30:32.240
 to commit the rest. So we're proposing one this year. If I come back next year with only

02:30:32.240 --> 02:30:39.460
 $1 million proposed, that's going to extend that 40 year into longer. But if Council decides

02:30:39.460 --> 02:30:43.980
 this year is $1 million, maybe we want to increase it by $1 million next year, so that

02:30:43.980 --> 02:30:48.040
 gets you to $2 million. I think that's a different conversation. So I really think it's up to

02:30:48.040 --> 02:30:52.900
 Council as to that funding, but we can model out what that looks like as far as what it

02:30:52.900 --> 02:30:56.540
 does for the street condition over that time period.

02:30:56.540 --> 02:31:01.600
 Yeah, I'd be particularly interested in the effect of different growth rates over time

02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:07.660
 and the delay. Okay, any other questions? Councilman Holler.

02:31:07.660 --> 02:31:12.860
 Thank you. What other funding opportunities are available for streets?

02:31:12.860 --> 02:31:20.020
 So one of the things that I think Council could decide to do is look at the revenue

02:31:20.020 --> 02:31:24.940
 we receive from Core Scientific so that ROI and franchise fee money coming into general

02:31:24.940 --> 02:31:31.420
 fund. More of that could be allocated to roadway funding. It's already revenue coming into

02:31:31.420 --> 02:31:33.460
 the general fund. We could allocate more of that.

02:31:33.460 --> 02:31:36.420
 What kind of number would you guess that is?

02:31:36.420 --> 02:31:49.700
 There's about an additional $4.6 million, I believe, coming from a dedicated ROI and

02:31:49.700 --> 02:31:55.660
 franchise fee amount coming to general fund. And I would say that's an amount that Council

02:31:55.660 --> 02:32:00.140
 could direct to use more or less of that to this roadway funding strategy.

02:32:00.140 --> 02:32:05.700
 Excellent. Thank you. I just want to point out we're in a really, really high inflation

02:32:05.700 --> 02:32:13.280
 period right now. Were that to get under control and lacking a crystal ball, but were that

02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:17.700
 to get harnessed a little bit? What would happen to these numbers?

02:32:17.700 --> 02:32:24.740
 Well, I think we're in an interesting position in the city. So we have an older city who

02:32:24.740 --> 02:32:30.340
 has a heavy need for infrastructure replacement, but we're also growing, which means we're

02:32:30.340 --> 02:32:35.380
 adding more staff at the same time. So it really is a balance of what does Council

02:32:35.380 --> 02:32:39.060
 expect your level of service to be for these operations?

02:32:39.060 --> 02:32:45.100
 We are proposing what we feel is a balanced budget, but also giving you the service level

02:32:45.100 --> 02:32:49.780
 that we feel like Council has expected of us in the past. Council could opt to change

02:32:49.780 --> 02:32:55.540
 that service level. If you say you don't want high response time in fire, that we wouldn't

02:32:55.540 --> 02:33:00.980
 need as many firefighters. I would not recommend that. But those are the tradeoffs that Council

02:33:00.980 --> 02:33:05.980
 can-- Recommending that. May I be clear?

02:33:05.980 --> 02:33:08.980
 Those are the tradeoffs that Council can opt to make.

02:33:08.980 --> 02:33:17.460
 Okay. Thank you. Parks, the Parks Foundation position and the Economic Development position,

02:33:17.460 --> 02:33:21.660
 how have those been, have they been volunteer positions prior to now?

02:33:21.660 --> 02:33:26.540
 They've been contracted positions. I can have Christine Taylor come up and give you a little

02:33:26.540 --> 02:33:29.060
 bit more information about those specific positions.

02:33:29.060 --> 02:33:37.060
 If you don't mind. Both of those positions have funding in

02:33:37.060 --> 02:33:41.700
 the operating budget for Parks and Economic Development, where we paid the Park Foundation

02:33:41.700 --> 02:33:48.140
 $125,000 a year, maybe a little less than that. And then they went out and hired the

02:33:48.140 --> 02:33:54.460
 employee. Same thing on the Main Street Association. It was a contract where we funded them $125,000

02:33:54.460 --> 02:34:00.100
 approximately, and they had a full-time employee. So with the Main Street Association, Christine

02:34:00.100 --> 02:34:04.220
 Gossett left that. It became vacant. They had conversations with the board who was in

02:34:04.220 --> 02:34:08.700
 agreeance that that would be a great position to bring back in-house. On the Park Foundation

02:34:08.700 --> 02:34:14.260
 side, they've had that position vacant for six months or longer. And same conversation

02:34:14.260 --> 02:34:18.340
 with their board that they were interested in the city bringing that back in as an operation.

02:34:18.340 --> 02:34:22.300
 With a net savings? Correct. So we would reduce that operating cost.

02:34:22.300 --> 02:34:27.920
 Both of those would be a net zero. We'd reduce that operating expense, add the position,

02:34:27.920 --> 02:34:33.500
 and there's no additional cost in the supplemental. Okay. Very good. Very good. Thank you. That's

02:34:33.500 --> 02:34:36.180
 all I got. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Councilmember McGee.

02:34:36.180 --> 02:34:42.020
 Madam City Manager, can I just ask you if you don't mind to explain your idea on funding

02:34:42.020 --> 02:34:44.860
 roadways strategy? No, I mean, it's not really. I don't want

02:34:44.860 --> 02:34:48.540
 to take, not like it's credit, but correct me if I'm wrong. I think you might want to

02:34:48.540 --> 02:34:54.340
 explain to them where you showed 15 point something million in streets. Okay. So show

02:34:54.340 --> 02:34:59.140
 them that. This is important because it's, you got so much money you're putting into

02:34:59.140 --> 02:35:11.660
 streets. I know. I know. There it is. Transfer a 15.7 million to streets improvement fund.

02:35:11.660 --> 02:35:15.260
 Now streets improvement fund is to improve our streets, correct?

02:35:15.260 --> 02:35:20.340
 Yes. Then you're going back and you're saying add a million to roadways based on roadway

02:35:20.340 --> 02:35:23.500
 impact fees. No, not impact fees.

02:35:23.500 --> 02:35:29.780
 Or impact fees. I mean impact fees, not roadway impact fees, but impact fees. So technically,

02:35:29.780 --> 02:35:33.460
 if you, can you not add 15 with plus one? Correct.

02:35:33.460 --> 02:35:40.340
 Okay. So if they wanted to do more with streets, they could next year issue bond, they could

02:35:40.340 --> 02:35:50.060
 do a bond program for streets and increase through the general fund, increase it and

02:35:50.060 --> 02:35:54.700
 say right here today, this is fine for this year, but next year we want you to put 2 million

02:35:54.700 --> 02:36:02.760
 in there and we want you to increase the streets improvement fund by a million, not 600,000.

02:36:02.760 --> 02:36:15.540
 So you have that ability to do that. Okay. Any other questions? Councilman Melton.

02:36:15.540 --> 02:36:23.880
 Thank you. First, if we, you know, are going to look at comparing the 12% proposed increase

02:36:23.880 --> 02:36:32.860
 to a 4 point something. I think it's 4.74. Yeah, I can believe that because I thought

02:36:32.860 --> 02:36:45.020
 wages are finally outpacing price inflation. But are the supplementals in, from staff point

02:36:45.020 --> 02:36:52.300
 of view, in priority order in terms of what's urgent and important? And I realize, you know,

02:36:52.300 --> 02:36:55.580
 obviously you're going to look for our input on that. So, I mean, obviously that's why

02:36:55.580 --> 02:37:02.340
 you've shown fire police. You've already proved a merit. So fire police, we believe, adding

02:37:02.340 --> 02:37:06.340
 money to keep our streets going. But if you look at this, I just want to be, you look

02:37:06.340 --> 02:37:11.340
 at the priorities you all set, community services, that's a priority. Council set. I don't question

02:37:11.340 --> 02:37:15.700
 that every single thing is good and a priority. No, I know that. I'm just telling you, our

02:37:15.700 --> 02:37:21.220
 justification is going by your priority areas. That's why we looked at roadways, community

02:37:21.220 --> 02:37:25.840
 services, animal services. There's an article that came out today that all the animal services

02:37:25.840 --> 02:37:29.820
 across the state are struggling with more animals and not enough staff. I mean, I know

02:37:29.820 --> 02:37:34.220
 you know that. But yes, they're in order. Honestly, they're all a priority because if

02:37:34.220 --> 02:37:39.860
 you look at... Yes. Nobody knows proposing anything evil. I know you're not. But yes,

02:37:39.860 --> 02:37:45.900
 I can't, other than police and fire, and they're all in priority order. I mean, they're all

02:37:45.900 --> 02:37:51.540
 priorities, but they're in order based on priority. Urgent and important. Okay. And

02:37:51.540 --> 02:37:59.120
 then just more narrowly, I didn't look and see. I could, but this is what's coming up.

02:37:59.120 --> 02:38:12.060
 Is the Park Master Plan pace of acquisition funded in this budget? So the land acquisition,

02:38:12.060 --> 02:38:17.460
 we don't have a placeholder in the CIP budget for land acquisition. Council could give that

02:38:17.460 --> 02:38:23.580
 direction and say we want to fund, you know, we want $2 million a year, for instance, for

02:38:23.580 --> 02:38:28.380
 park acquisition funding. We can add that to the CIP if you give us direction today

02:38:28.380 --> 02:38:32.300
 to do that. But currently we don't have a placeholder. And what would the number be

02:38:32.300 --> 02:38:37.420
 that would keep us on pace with the master plan? I don't know that off the top of my...

02:38:37.420 --> 02:38:48.420
 Okay. I'll make sure to get that. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? Councilman Watts.

02:38:48.420 --> 02:38:53.100
 Just for clarification, especially from what the comments were from the city manager, on

02:38:53.100 --> 02:38:57.820
 this roadway funding strategy, look, we tried to do this with vehicle replacement, and it

02:38:57.820 --> 02:39:04.700
 didn't work. I mean, me personally, you know, debt is not an enemy when it's used appropriately

02:39:04.700 --> 02:39:09.580
 and when it's used because it's all about cash flow and it's about priorities. And plus,

02:39:09.580 --> 02:39:12.940
 until now, interest rates have been such we should have financed everything we could get,

02:39:12.940 --> 02:39:17.460
 but that's a different story. But what I'm hearing is on the roadway funding strategy,

02:39:17.460 --> 02:39:21.760
 if we wanted to allocate more money to the street maintenance fund, because that's really

02:39:21.760 --> 02:39:28.700
 what that is. The street maintenance fund is for road and even $5 million a year to

02:39:28.700 --> 02:39:33.900
 reconstruct a road. I mean, it's not going to... So I really think there's a different

02:39:33.900 --> 02:39:38.620
 way to do that without it quote unquote being added as a supplemental. And then I have a

02:39:38.620 --> 02:39:45.680
 question on these positions that have been being brought in house, which means we've

02:39:45.680 --> 02:39:52.660
 already got in the budget, prior year budgets, money to pay for those contracts or for those

02:39:52.660 --> 02:39:58.940
 contractors. So if we're just switching, and this may be the delta of the cost, but if

02:39:58.940 --> 02:40:06.420
 we're switching from independent contractor to person, the funding mechanism hasn't necessarily

02:40:06.420 --> 02:40:11.700
 changed. We still have money. And so I don't know why it would be a supplemental unless

02:40:11.700 --> 02:40:16.380
 we were paying 50,000 to the contractor and now we're paying 100. Well, then that would

02:40:16.380 --> 02:40:20.980
 be an additional supplemental. But if we're just changing out titles without any increase

02:40:20.980 --> 02:40:25.660
 in the cost, I don't think that should be under supplemental. Am I wrong?

02:40:25.660 --> 02:40:29.940
 It's for the addition of the FTE because since it was contracted, we had it just part of

02:40:29.940 --> 02:40:34.740
 their operating budget, we didn't need to have an actual full-time equivalent as part

02:40:34.740 --> 02:40:41.000
 of the budget. So they're essentially asking you, asking council to add the FTE. While

02:40:41.000 --> 02:40:45.940
 you're seeing some of those costs, it's the other supplemental. So the $50,000 on there,

02:40:45.940 --> 02:40:49.500
 it is zero for the Main Street position. Because like you said, we've got the funding, we're

02:40:49.500 --> 02:40:53.780
 just bringing it in the house. All we're asking with that request is for one full-time equivalent,

02:40:53.780 --> 02:40:59.900
 no additional dollars. The $50,000 is to increase economic development contract, economic development

02:40:59.900 --> 02:41:05.300
 partnership contract increase. And then on parks, that cost is primarily is the field

02:41:05.300 --> 02:41:11.640
 service worker. Okay. So then the 50,000 on the economic development

02:41:11.640 --> 02:41:16.340
 label is for the EDP contract increase. Yes.

02:41:16.340 --> 02:41:19.260
 Whereas the Main Street position is a net zero. Correct.

02:41:19.260 --> 02:41:23.700
 And that's just, okay, I got you. Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Okay. Thank you.

02:41:23.700 --> 02:41:30.620
 Okay. Any other questions? Councilman McGee, then Mayor Patu.

02:41:30.620 --> 02:41:38.660
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So a question right here on supplementals. With community services,

02:41:38.660 --> 02:41:43.500
 I'm just, I'm just, I'm just matching one for one here. I remember the contract that

02:41:43.500 --> 02:41:48.280
 we looked at for the ambassador's program was going to be $7,700 and $8,000.

02:41:48.280 --> 02:41:53.420
 Right. This has it starting in January. Okay. Okay. Thank you for that.

02:41:53.420 --> 02:41:58.380
 And library. So help me. I remember last year we were looking at this and we looked at those

02:41:58.380 --> 02:42:04.100
 tiers and we decided to fund four tiers instead of five tiers. I believe that fifth tier called

02:42:04.100 --> 02:42:09.340
 for like one and a half positions for libraries and now we didn't fund it. But now I'm seeing

02:42:09.340 --> 02:42:14.060
 we're only asking for a part timer. And I might be wrong on what that fifth tier asked

02:42:14.060 --> 02:42:18.740
 for last year. Can you just help me? I know that while we're waiting on Christine,

02:42:18.740 --> 02:42:23.540
 I know that there were, I don't, I think if I remember, Jennifer asked for several part

02:42:23.540 --> 02:42:29.940
 time, part time positions and we only gave her one or two. This is filling another, actually

02:42:29.940 --> 02:42:34.220
 filling a part time library specialist position. I may be wrong.

02:42:34.220 --> 02:42:39.460
 We did fund positions last year for the library. This year when they brought forth budget supplementals,

02:42:39.460 --> 02:42:45.220
 we had internal conversations with the departments on that increasing that merit and pay was

02:42:45.220 --> 02:42:49.380
 going to be the first priority. So supplemental requests were scaled back and then you're

02:42:49.380 --> 02:42:53.660
 only seeing the request that city management is recommending.

02:42:53.660 --> 02:43:00.980
 Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Appreciate it. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem.

02:43:00.980 --> 02:43:04.940
 Mine's real brief. Could, if we could know some of the things that you just said with

02:43:04.940 --> 02:43:10.860
 counselor Watts and get us a new table of the things that are, you know, already paid

02:43:10.860 --> 02:43:15.060
 for not already paid for some, some of the discussion you just had, I just love to see

02:43:15.060 --> 02:43:19.620
 that because I, I didn't catch it from my notes. So that, that'd just be really helpful.

02:43:19.620 --> 02:43:20.620
 Thank you.

02:43:20.620 --> 02:43:21.620
 Okay.

02:43:21.620 --> 02:43:30.300
 Okay. Any other questions? Cassie, can you forgive me for not having it right in front

02:43:30.300 --> 02:43:38.340
 of me. The sales tax number for this year is what?

02:43:38.340 --> 02:43:47.740
 For this year, we're estimating $56.7 million to collect in sales tax.

02:43:47.740 --> 02:43:59.500
 And that means DCTA gets a half cent of that times 0.05 or 0.05.

02:43:59.500 --> 02:44:08.780
 0.05, I believe. No, 0.5. Sorry, 0.5. Cause ours is 1.5. 0.05.

02:44:08.780 --> 02:44:10.500
 A half cent, yeah.

02:44:10.500 --> 02:44:11.500
 Half percent.

02:44:11.500 --> 02:44:19.980
 Half percent. Okay. Can somebody do that math for me in the end? Cause I'm, I'm, it's,

02:44:19.980 --> 02:44:24.700
 it's, it's, it's counselor Watts.

02:44:24.700 --> 02:44:30.180
 Yeah. Well, just for clarification, this sales tax number represents our collection, which

02:44:30.180 --> 02:44:37.020
 is 1.5 cents or 1.5 percent. DCTA is 0.5 percent.

02:44:37.020 --> 02:44:38.020
 Correct.

02:44:38.020 --> 02:44:43.420
 So correct me if I'm wrong, then basically DTA is getting a third of what we're collecting

02:44:43.420 --> 02:44:51.860
 because a third of 1.5 is 0.5. So you could divide that by three and that gives you a

02:44:51.860 --> 02:44:57.340
 very good indication, you know, a good estimate of what our contribute, which in this case

02:44:57.340 --> 02:45:02.500
 it'd be what, 17 or I can't read it. What's the amount of sales tax we're looking at?

02:45:02.500 --> 02:45:09.940
 56.7 for this year. Yeah. So divide that by three. That's a little, that's about 18, 18

02:45:09.940 --> 02:45:10.940
 million. Yeah.

02:45:10.940 --> 02:45:22.500
 So we need to draft something to them about that TRIPS grant amount and, and, and coordinate

02:45:22.500 --> 02:45:27.220
 with Louisville and the other member cities or whatever. But, but that's just, that's

02:45:27.220 --> 02:45:34.560
 significant because it's, it's not anything against them. But when I hear in the newspaper

02:45:34.560 --> 02:45:44.660
 that they have a $90 million bank account, basically, before they have too many plans

02:45:44.660 --> 02:45:51.740
 for that, I don't want to continue to add $18 million on top of that unchecked, right?

02:45:51.740 --> 02:45:55.340
 Especially when we're talking about infrastructure, we're talking about cycling needs. We're talking

02:45:55.340 --> 02:46:02.300
 about last mile components because, and everything they do, it's not door to door. It's, it's

02:46:02.300 --> 02:46:08.820
 regional drop-offs or area drop-offs. So, so some sort of connectivity with our infrastructure

02:46:08.820 --> 02:46:15.820
 with getting people that last mile and the fact that we continue to perform well to our

02:46:15.820 --> 02:46:21.300
 credit on sales tax doesn't mean that, that that should just go and sit in a bank account

02:46:21.300 --> 02:46:26.980
 somewhere. So whatever, I'll take staff's direction on what form that takes, but that's,

02:46:26.980 --> 02:46:34.540
 that's my request. Then, are there, I would like to know, are there positions open that

02:46:34.540 --> 02:46:40.340
 we've not been able to fill that are on the supplemental list? So for example, if police

02:46:40.340 --> 02:46:44.060
 department, and I'm just using an example, I doubt this is the case, but if police department,

02:46:44.060 --> 02:46:48.020
 hey, we have an opening we hadn't been able to fill and we have these new fields, like

02:46:48.020 --> 02:46:52.740
 anywhere in that supplemental is everything, all those departments are accounted for and

02:46:52.740 --> 02:46:57.300
 we're adding or there's vacancies and we're adding, trying to hire more.

02:46:57.300 --> 02:47:01.460
 I can answer that. And, and Frank shaking his head no in police because they just did

02:47:01.460 --> 02:47:09.100
 an academy and same thing with fire. The community services, they need that position. And then

02:47:09.100 --> 02:47:19.020
 one is just to reclass animal services. Absolutely. There's no vacancies other than Tiffany. And

02:47:19.020 --> 02:47:24.500
 then the library specialists know they're, I'll tell you, seriously, we've been able

02:47:24.500 --> 02:47:28.820
 to fill more jobs because of the, what the great work you did in the merit increase.

02:47:28.820 --> 02:47:33.580
 So and, and then of course, Madison is asking for a compliant special specialist, which

02:47:33.580 --> 02:47:44.260
 she needs. She has no vacancies. Okay, great. Thank you for that. Then just

02:47:44.260 --> 02:47:52.820
 in this not today, but for future, I would like to have a maybe top three list of city

02:47:52.820 --> 02:47:59.000
 revenue producing being that the, you know, all our departments are great work and I want

02:47:59.000 --> 02:48:04.660
 to make a plug for our record and recreation centers, birthday parties. They're fantastic.

02:48:04.660 --> 02:48:09.220
 You know, so if you're looking for a place to host your birthday party, call your Denton

02:48:09.220 --> 02:48:14.180
 Parks and Rec Department and we'll hook you right up. So that means you can't beat the

02:48:14.180 --> 02:48:17.940
 indoor bounce house. You know, you beat the heat, you have fun. It's all good things.

02:48:17.940 --> 02:48:24.500
 But I would like to know kind of what, what, what programs are generating just so I can,

02:48:24.500 --> 02:48:27.140
 you know, have that in the back of my mind. So if you could help me with that, that'd

02:48:27.140 --> 02:48:32.660
 be great. And just over the, you know, fiscal year. And then I want to confirm e-bikes that's

02:48:32.660 --> 02:48:40.180
 in the budget. I believe that's included. Okay. It's in the current fiscal year. Great.

02:48:40.180 --> 02:48:51.880
 Perfect. Thank you. And then traditionally in the past, you've given us a slide of those

02:48:51.880 --> 02:48:55.980
 that have received tax abatements that are rolling off or whatever phase is there. And

02:48:55.980 --> 02:49:00.060
 can you bring that back? Sure. I'd love to see that because I think for example, embassy

02:49:00.060 --> 02:49:05.140
 should be there in the nineties. They were 100%. I would think that that's tiered. So

02:49:05.140 --> 02:49:09.580
 I just don't know where they are in that, but I'd like to see that just kind of an update.

02:49:09.580 --> 02:49:14.660
 And I think, cause we're best by is that crossing. I think that rolled off, but just want to

02:49:14.660 --> 02:49:20.060
 understand where we are. Yeah. And because it also features the ROI, which is a great,

02:49:20.060 --> 02:49:29.220
 great point. So we'd like to see that. Um, then I'm going to, uh, last thing is I, I'm

02:49:29.220 --> 02:49:36.200
 just going to make a push for one additional supplemental. And that is the $25,000 to brand

02:49:36.200 --> 02:49:43.340
 the trash cans. Uh, and that it would just say simply kids at play on new trash cans.

02:49:43.340 --> 02:49:50.340
 When people get their Ben replaced, it just serves as a great reminder to me, easy messaging.

02:49:50.340 --> 02:49:54.460
 Everyone in the neighborhood would roll out their trash cans and on the side of it, at

02:49:54.460 --> 02:49:59.420
 some point, uh, taking a stash point that it would be above the arm. So it's not beat

02:49:59.420 --> 02:50:05.140
 up, but kind of across the top, or just say kids at play and just kind of a gentle reminder

02:50:05.140 --> 02:50:10.460
 that would circulate throughout the entire city to run remind people to be mindful of

02:50:10.460 --> 02:50:16.220
 how they're driving. And each, each neighborhood, a resident has asked me about her or talk

02:50:16.220 --> 02:50:20.700
 to me about it regularly. So it's kind of a way to equally serve everyone in that way,

02:50:20.700 --> 02:50:26.260
 or at least, uh, kind of keep that top of mind. So that purse staffs last Friday report,

02:50:26.260 --> 02:50:30.900
 I think the numbers around 25,000 for, for new. And so I'd ask to add that. And if it

02:50:30.900 --> 02:50:35.220
 gets support, it does, but, uh, if it doesn't, it doesn't, but that's, that's important

02:50:35.220 --> 02:50:41.860
 to me. So thank you very much. Um, lunch is here. And if I'd ask the directors and the

02:50:41.860 --> 02:50:46.140
 general fund to come have lunch, at least with the council members. And then unless

02:50:46.140 --> 02:50:51.420
 any council member, other than enterprise enterprise or, um, other funds need to stay,

02:50:51.420 --> 02:50:56.660
 but the other general fund department heads, uh, can go, uh, but you need, but please come

02:50:56.660 --> 02:50:59.940
 eat because otherwise we're going to have so much food. We're going to be, I don't

02:50:59.940 --> 02:51:04.620
 know what we'll do. Okay. So, um, any other questions before we break for lunch? Anything

02:51:04.620 --> 02:51:13.980
 else? Councilor Watts, uh, just for options, I would like to see, uh, on the $1 million

02:51:13.980 --> 02:51:19.620
 for street funding. I mean, I think that's going to fall the wayside of the vehicle cash

02:51:19.620 --> 02:51:24.100
 funding that we tried for many years. And it just, so I would like to see what it would

02:51:24.100 --> 02:51:29.060
 be like if that were excluded, how we add that somewhere with some other revenue that

02:51:29.060 --> 02:51:33.740
 we've already got in the fund. And then what's that take the tax rate down to? If we just

02:51:33.740 --> 02:51:42.780
 take that out, that's it. Or is there something that management thinks just missed the cut

02:51:42.780 --> 02:51:49.540
 that, that, you know, might assist with some of that, whether it's another animal services

02:51:49.540 --> 02:51:53.140
 officer, I, I don't know what it is. So I don't know, but I'm just saying, I think that

02:51:53.140 --> 02:51:58.980
 million dollars, I hear, I hear the aspiration, but over time and the way we've looked at

02:51:58.980 --> 02:52:04.620
 it and the cost of these street reconstructions and the for it, it's just going to sit in

02:52:04.620 --> 02:52:09.820
 a fund somewhere. It's going to just, it's going to get used somewhere. It's just fungible.

02:52:09.820 --> 02:52:15.060
 So that's my only thought on that. Yeah. Well, and, and that's a, that gives me a thought

02:52:15.060 --> 02:52:18.940
 and a follow up to that. How long did you, when did that take place? That, when did we

02:52:18.940 --> 02:52:24.100
 start that? The final presentation was made in January of this year, but we worked on

02:52:24.100 --> 02:52:28.980
 that project for about a year before we brought it to council. Okay. Yeah. I know I was just,

02:52:28.980 --> 02:52:33.580
 and how does that sync up with the timing? Cause where I'm going was I take his point

02:52:33.580 --> 02:52:39.020
 and, but at some point we pivoted to where we're going to do all the infrastructure.

02:52:39.020 --> 02:52:43.500
 So I wonder if it was, I don't know how that timing worked where we initially we were just

02:52:43.500 --> 02:52:47.380
 doing the roads and then we're saying we're doing all the infrastructure. And so obviously

02:52:47.380 --> 02:52:52.900
 there's a bigger cost now when we're doing roads versus the previous mentality where

02:52:52.900 --> 02:52:58.980
 we were just doing the surface. I just wasn't sure the time into those. Right. I think the

02:52:58.980 --> 02:53:04.060
 comprehensive approach was before we started on the roadway funding strategy project, but

02:53:04.060 --> 02:53:09.300
 this would be specific for the roadway cost. The other costs are run by other funds. Right.

02:53:09.300 --> 02:53:16.460
 Okay. All right. Any other questions? So water and wastewater infrastructure pay for their

02:53:16.460 --> 02:53:23.580
 portion. Same with drainage is included in the road sometimes, but the roadway is paid

02:53:23.580 --> 02:53:30.820
 by the streets fund. Water utilities is paid by their portion of the fund. And, and one

02:53:30.820 --> 02:53:33.900
 other thing that I've asked for before that I don't know that I've seen and forgive me

02:53:33.900 --> 02:53:37.620
 if it came out in a Friday report and I missed it. It wouldn't be much information percentage

02:53:37.620 --> 02:53:45.460
 of our city that's tax exempt federal. So FEMA has one, two, three, four sites to universities.

02:53:45.460 --> 02:53:52.100
 So I just, that, that matters because when we're doing the comps to Louisville doesn't

02:53:52.100 --> 02:53:56.580
 have the same challenge as McKinney. And then there's, just so you know, the tax rates around

02:53:56.580 --> 02:54:02.700
 44 cents, 45. I could be off. Yes. Yeah. It's I could be off a little bit, but it's, it's

02:54:02.700 --> 02:54:08.100
 in the forties. Um, I, I could be wrong, but I think that's right. I was, I was looking,

02:54:08.100 --> 02:54:13.260
 yeah, I was looking as earlier. Yeah. Yeah. But, but so I just would like to know the

02:54:13.260 --> 02:54:21.340
 percentage of, so 100 square miles. What percentage of that is tax exempt? Okay. Because I don't

02:54:21.340 --> 02:54:25.020
 know that they're not like the, they're famous over other building. If you don't know it's

02:54:25.020 --> 02:54:29.420
 there, I mean, you know, it's, it's sitting there. I didn't, I had no idea what it was

02:54:29.420 --> 02:54:34.300
 until, you know, so it's, that's right. That's how I figured it out. I had to look it up.

02:54:34.300 --> 02:54:41.540
 Okay. So it, uh, I tried to walk in and ask for order of pizza. So it's, uh, 1230. We'll

02:54:41.540 --> 02:54:49.660
 take a lunch break. We'll be back at what 12. We'll eat here at the desk, right. Yeah.

02:54:49.660 --> 02:54:59.340
 So like 1245 and welcome back to this meeting in Denton city council. It is 1253. We had,

02:54:59.340 --> 02:55:05.460
 we are now to the enterprise portion of the budget discussion, or if there's anything

02:55:05.460 --> 02:55:10.700
 else, we need to go back and caption and come back. So turn it over to you, Amy. All right.

02:55:10.700 --> 02:55:15.380
 Uh, good afternoon, Amy Castlick. I'm now speaking to you as interim finance director.

02:55:15.380 --> 02:55:20.740
 Um, I'm going to be presenting the enterprise funds, which includes the airport electric

02:55:20.740 --> 02:55:27.060
 solid waste, uh, water and wastewater funds. The major source of revenue for each of these

02:55:27.060 --> 02:55:33.580
 funds is generated from the customers receiving services. Um, you've previously received presentations

02:55:33.580 --> 02:55:41.240
 on DME solid waste and recycling water and wastewater on July 18th, uh, airport revenues

02:55:41.240 --> 02:55:47.340
 are derived primarily from land and hanger leases, as well as gas well, uh, royalties,

02:55:47.340 --> 02:55:53.660
 um, all of which remain fairly flat for fiscal year 2024. Um, expenditures have increased

02:55:53.660 --> 02:55:59.940
 slightly, um, due to increases in personnel costs. Um, the airport fund, uh, as you'll

02:55:59.940 --> 02:56:06.140
 see is programmed to draw down reserves over the next few years. Uh, however, the airport

02:56:06.140 --> 02:56:11.980
 master plan is expected to provide, um, additional insights into future use and services at the

02:56:11.980 --> 02:56:17.400
 airport. Uh, in addition, the department is collaborating with the FAA and text dot to

02:56:17.400 --> 02:56:26.020
 secure, um, grant funding to reconstruct the primary runway. Uh, next up is, uh, the electric

02:56:26.020 --> 02:56:32.540
 fund DME. Um, it assumes, um, a two and a half percent load growth in purchase power

02:56:32.540 --> 02:56:38.620
 and moderate increases in personnel and operating costs. Uh, funded supplemental requests include

02:56:38.620 --> 02:56:45.840
 the 2% merit increase, a SCADA network assessment, an outage coordinator, relay technician, um,

02:56:45.840 --> 02:56:53.000
 and then storage for equipment, um, and construction standards for voltage conversions. Uh, in

02:56:53.000 --> 02:56:57.240
 addition, three vehicles are proposed to be purchased from existing vehicle replacement

02:56:57.240 --> 02:57:04.540
 funds. Uh, note rate increase has been included for fiscal year 2024. Um, however, we are

02:57:04.540 --> 02:57:14.140
 anticipating 3% rate increases from, uh, 2025 through 2028. Um, there is also, um, an alternative

02:57:14.140 --> 02:57:20.540
 option that you, uh, heard about on July 18th that would look at doing a one time increase

02:57:20.540 --> 02:57:26.460
 of 12 and a half percent in 2025. Um, these increases support the fund and help to maintain

02:57:26.460 --> 02:57:37.780
 required, uh, cash balance reserves. So, um, solid waste proposed, uh, expenditure budget

02:57:37.780 --> 02:57:43.780
 is in line with last year's adopted budget. Uh, increases exist in personnel costs related

02:57:43.780 --> 02:57:50.660
 to the, uh, comp and class study, um, cost of service transfers related to personnel,

02:57:50.660 --> 02:57:57.240
 uh, and contracts that are being moved over to, um, environmental services, uh, as well

02:57:57.240 --> 02:58:02.940
 as debt service. Uh, so these are offset by reductions in revenue funded capital and in

02:58:02.940 --> 02:58:08.640
 vehicle replacements. Uh, funded supplemental requests again include that 2% merit increase

02:58:08.640 --> 02:58:14.300
 as well as a cart washing truck set to be funded from capital. Uh, we are not contemplating

02:58:14.300 --> 02:58:21.500
 a rate increase, uh, until fiscal year 2026. However, um, there is a cost of service study

02:58:21.500 --> 02:58:26.900
 that will be brought forward, uh, soon that could, um, change up the, the way that we're

02:58:26.900 --> 02:58:33.080
 projecting, uh, rate increases in the future. Uh, in the water fund, we're projected to

02:58:33.080 --> 02:58:40.060
 use more impact fees to fund capital and debt service beginning in fiscal year 2024. Uh,

02:58:40.060 --> 02:58:46.700
 proposed expenditures include, uh, moderate increases in personnel and operating costs.

02:58:46.700 --> 02:58:52.740
 And again, it includes that 2% merit increase. There are also six additional positions, uh,

02:58:52.740 --> 02:58:59.120
 proposed for water utilities. And, um, a bit of an offset to that is that there's a shift

02:58:59.120 --> 02:59:04.900
 of personnel from water, again, to the new environmental services fund. Uh, no rate increases

02:59:04.900 --> 02:59:12.460
 are proposed for 2024. However, we are anticipating, uh, rate increases in the four years following

02:59:12.460 --> 02:59:24.060
 that. And that is in order to meet, um, coverage requirements and reserve balance targets.

02:59:24.060 --> 02:59:30.340
 Next is the wastewater fund. So when looking at the wastewater fund, which also includes

02:59:30.340 --> 02:59:36.100
 drainage, proposed revenues and expenditures are just below, uh, last year's adopted budget.

02:59:36.100 --> 02:59:42.380
 Uh, this is due to revenue that was associated with cost participation, um, being delayed

02:59:42.380 --> 02:59:50.660
 until future years and then less revenue funded capital. Um, in addition, there are, um, some

02:59:50.660 --> 02:59:56.220
 changes in personnel and operating expenditures that are again, due to positions being moved

02:59:56.220 --> 03:00:01.820
 over to the environmental services fund funded supplemental. In addition to the 2% merit

03:00:01.820 --> 03:00:08.100
 increase, uh, there are four water reclamation operators for pecan Creek, a project manager

03:00:08.100 --> 03:00:14.940
 and inspector, uh, one service truck and a hydro excavation truck. Um, so in this fund,

03:00:14.940 --> 03:00:22.620
 we are proposing an 11% rate increase in 2024 with similar increases in the subsequent

03:00:22.620 --> 03:00:29.260
 years. Um, based on anticipated rate increases, we are projected to meet, uh, cash balance

03:00:29.260 --> 03:00:35.980
 requirements in all of the years shown and debt coverage in two of the five years. Um,

03:00:35.980 --> 03:00:43.200
 I want to share with you then also our rate comparisons when looking at, uh, the wastewater

03:00:43.200 --> 03:00:50.540
 residential rates. Um, so this is based on an AWWA standard, um, where we're comparing

03:00:50.540 --> 03:00:55.940
 apples to apples with other utilities, uh, looking at a three quarter inch, um, on the

03:00:55.940 --> 03:01:03.620
 base rate and then 8,000 gallons of consumption, uh, for wastewater. So, um, you'll see in

03:01:03.620 --> 03:01:12.420
 this Louisville is proposing, um, a rate increase of 4.3% for wastewater and then Irving, um,

03:01:12.420 --> 03:01:18.420
 Irving has a planned 4% rate increase as part of a five year, um, strategy that council

03:01:18.420 --> 03:01:24.740
 has approved there. Um, it gives them the opportunity to raise that, but then they can

03:01:24.740 --> 03:01:28.900
 go up or down based on the needs of what they're seeing in the utility. So this year they are

03:01:28.900 --> 03:01:35.940
 actually anticipating increasing wastewater anywhere from five to 6%. So this is projected

03:01:35.940 --> 03:01:41.620
 out at five and a half percent to show you that comparison data. Um, when looking at

03:01:41.620 --> 03:01:48.700
 specifically at the city of Denton, um, our residential customers usage is about 5,040

03:01:48.700 --> 03:01:54.420
 gallons. So it's a $30 average bill under the current rate. And so with the proposed

03:01:54.420 --> 03:02:05.260
 rate increase, that would go up to $33 and 30 cents, um, a month on the customer bill.

03:02:05.260 --> 03:02:11.820
 So we wanted to share a history of rate changes across all the utilities. Um, we haven't had

03:02:11.820 --> 03:02:17.780
 a rate increase since fiscal year 2017. And in fact, we reduce the rates every year from

03:02:17.780 --> 03:02:26.460
 2018 to 2021. Um, and these reductions were all while experiencing overall cost increases

03:02:26.460 --> 03:02:33.240
 and the demands for services growing, um, is one of the factors that have led to, um,

03:02:33.240 --> 03:02:42.220
 this 11% needed increase in wastewater. And with that, if anyone has any questions, questions

03:02:42.220 --> 03:02:54.500
 for staff, Councilmember McGee. Thank you Mr. Mayor. So it looks like whatever, whatever

03:02:54.500 --> 03:02:59.300
 department we're looking at some potential substantial rate increases over the course

03:02:59.300 --> 03:03:07.940
 of five years, what's the general ideology behind, except before wastewater, not increasing

03:03:07.940 --> 03:03:13.820
 the rates this year, but then taking significantly significant jumps next year? Why not even

03:03:13.820 --> 03:03:17.660
 them out and tear them all in over the course of five years? Just what's the ideology there?

03:03:17.660 --> 03:03:24.220
 Go ahead. Yeah. Well, primarily this year, the need is in wastewater. Wastewater absolutely

03:03:24.220 --> 03:03:28.580
 needs that rate increase this year. So it's a matter of kind of softening out the overall

03:03:28.580 --> 03:03:34.460
 rate impact on our, um, customers and really with the goal of overall avoiding great shock

03:03:34.460 --> 03:03:39.620
 and making those as even as we possibly can, but knowing this year that, that the greatest

03:03:39.620 --> 03:03:46.820
 need was for wastewater. But, but I will say your point is very, very valid. I asked the

03:03:46.820 --> 03:03:53.380
 same question, uh, when we were reviewing the budgets millions of times. I mean, if

03:03:53.380 --> 03:03:58.060
 you look at the picture, it's great news because look at all the reductions and we've kept

03:03:58.060 --> 03:04:02.500
 the fee the same way. The problem is, is everything has cost us more and more staffing, everything

03:04:02.500 --> 03:04:08.300
 else. We're at a pitch point right now, but all the other funds, including electric are

03:04:08.300 --> 03:04:15.980
 going to have to go up in the future. And that's including solid waste as well. I guess, um,

03:04:15.980 --> 03:04:21.620
 let me look at electro electric, for example, nothing this year, but we've got 3% for four

03:04:21.620 --> 03:04:25.780
 consecutive years. Why not just take that 12 and divided by five and just start next

03:04:25.780 --> 03:04:33.020
 year or I'm sorry, start this year. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm just, I'm just

03:04:33.020 --> 03:04:37.500
 asking about the line of thinking. It doesn't, you know, council, it's coming anyway. Absolutely.

03:04:37.500 --> 03:04:43.180
 Council can do that. We were, as Amy said, 11% increase is a shock for some people, uh,

03:04:43.180 --> 03:04:46.300
 and it's based on how much wastewater, you know, how, how many flush toilets and all

03:04:46.300 --> 03:04:51.400
 that stuff. But at the end of the day, we were trying to be careful about that big sticker

03:04:51.400 --> 03:04:57.260
 shock says 11%, 3% here, 3% here, but it is coming. Yeah, it is coming. So it's really

03:04:57.260 --> 03:05:02.460
 a council decision. And I guess the last thing I'll say is the reason why I'm thinking is

03:05:02.460 --> 03:05:09.700
 because if we know it's coming and we phase it in a little bit slower and longer, it's

03:05:09.700 --> 03:05:14.180
 less of a shock to customers. But also I'm thinking in case something catastrophic happens,

03:05:14.180 --> 03:05:17.780
 we've already increased the rates a little bit slower. So we have a little bit extra

03:05:17.780 --> 03:05:22.100
 in the tank. That's just my general line of thinking, but I'm, I'm obviously not necessarily

03:05:22.100 --> 03:05:25.900
 advocating for anything at this point. So I appreciate the presentation. Thank you Mr.

03:05:25.900 --> 03:05:26.900
 Mayor.

03:05:26.900 --> 03:05:34.060
 Any other questions? Mayor Pro Tem and then, oh, Mayor Pro Tem and then councilman Harlan.

03:05:34.060 --> 03:05:38.940
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, so just to the point of the conversation, can it continue a little

03:05:38.940 --> 03:05:45.360
 further? Um, you know, for, for property taxes and everything we show and sales tax, we,

03:05:45.360 --> 03:05:50.660
 we divided per capita per mean household per, for her, you know, was it $307,000 household

03:05:50.660 --> 03:05:57.620
 or whatever. Certainly I know all the, the enterprise funds have their, their mean citizen.

03:05:57.620 --> 03:06:03.100
 And so if you, if you had a purely mean average citizen with the average electric, average

03:06:03.100 --> 03:06:09.360
 wastewater, average, uh, waters and solid waste, what would that average citizen be

03:06:09.360 --> 03:06:14.900
 looking at in terms of a combined rate with the various proposals?

03:06:14.900 --> 03:06:19.080
 We can absolutely get you that information for what we're proposing in 2024. It would

03:06:19.080 --> 03:06:26.300
 be on average to $3 and 30 cents for, for, for nothing. And then water is 12 or sorry,

03:06:26.300 --> 03:06:32.660
 wastewater is 11. It would be $3 and 30 cents. So in general, it, it crossed the board that

03:06:32.660 --> 03:06:37.040
 otherwise you'd just be splitting it out. Is that what you're saying? I mean, $3 and

03:06:37.040 --> 03:06:44.620
 30 cents. I mean, anyway, yes, for, for some future table, I would, I would love to see

03:06:44.620 --> 03:06:50.380
 how that average person works out. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

03:06:50.380 --> 03:06:56.780
 Oh good. Thank you. I knew we had it. You'll see it at the end. Thank you. I know we've

03:06:56.780 --> 03:07:00.060
 calculated it. So yes.

03:07:00.060 --> 03:07:06.860
 Councilman Holland. Thank you. Um, council member McGee and I were, were, were talking

03:07:06.860 --> 03:07:12.180
 about comparing Denton to Lewisville and McKinney. Mayor made an excellent, excellent point about

03:07:12.180 --> 03:07:17.340
 the, the, the difference in, in those communities. And I'm wondering if, if water and wastewater

03:07:17.340 --> 03:07:24.540
 rates at, uh, North Texas or TWU or at the fed, uh, are, do they get, do they get a better,

03:07:24.540 --> 03:07:31.140
 a better price than a John Q. Citizen?

03:07:31.140 --> 03:07:38.580
 I know EDME would negotiate a rate, but water, no, it's all the same. All the same. Thank

03:07:38.580 --> 03:07:47.420
 you. Okay. Um, that's been better. Councilor Watts. Well, I was just wanted to piggyback

03:07:47.420 --> 03:07:57.540
 on, um, council member McGee's interest in us being more mindful to stagger out, you

03:07:57.540 --> 03:08:04.340
 know, what we need. Um, in my head, I'm thinking conservatively, you know, there are some folks

03:08:04.340 --> 03:08:10.700
 that are very conservative and they want to run on politically. Oh, we're not increasing

03:08:10.700 --> 03:08:19.460
 your rates. Um, but in reality that does set us back when we are not being mindful to keep

03:08:19.460 --> 03:08:25.220
 putting something in the, in the jar. So here we are and it's clearly evident that it's

03:08:25.220 --> 03:08:32.620
 caught up with us. So I would, uh, definitely stand on the fact that, uh, we should pursue,

03:08:32.620 --> 03:08:38.340
 I don't know how the, how I need to say it, but I think that we should pursue, um, staggering

03:08:38.340 --> 03:08:44.740
 out and being mindful and having, you know, additional funding, uh, for catastrophic events

03:08:44.740 --> 03:08:49.980
 or something like that. So that's what I just wanted to add to the, to this conversation.

03:08:49.980 --> 03:08:57.860
 Okay. Councilman Watts. Thank you mayor. Uh, could, um, let's just go back to the wastewater

03:08:57.860 --> 03:09:07.380
 specific slide if you could, please. Okay. Yeah. Uh, first of all, I guess, and this

03:09:07.380 --> 03:09:11.460
 is more of a, I don't know if it's an accounting question or presentation question, but when

03:09:11.460 --> 03:09:16.420
 I see net income or loss and I see it in brackets means that there's a loss, but yet when I

03:09:16.420 --> 03:09:20.100
 look at total resources and I know we've got reserves in there and I look at total resources

03:09:20.100 --> 03:09:26.140
 and total expenditures, they're equal. So I know that that's, but it sort of gives like

03:09:26.140 --> 03:09:33.300
 a, um, anyway, so the reserve is the net loss basically in each one of these slides. Yes.

03:09:33.300 --> 03:09:38.580
 Okay. Um, all right. It's just, I guess, personal preference. So, but that raises the point of,

03:09:38.580 --> 03:09:44.620
 cause several of them had use of reserves. So what, what's the line of debarkation where

03:09:44.620 --> 03:09:52.300
 you're going to use reserves from the fund balance in lieu of a rate increase? In other

03:09:52.300 --> 03:09:57.540
 words, you're using, of course, wastewater, you got, uh, 11%, 11%, 11% and you've got

03:09:57.540 --> 03:10:01.380
 net income loss. You've got using the, the, the fund balance, but in some of the other

03:10:01.380 --> 03:10:06.020
 ones like the water and some of the other ones, you use the reserve funds to make up

03:10:06.020 --> 03:10:12.340
 a deficit, uh, with no rate increase. So what's the, what's the thought process on that?

03:10:12.340 --> 03:10:15.940
 So I'm gonna let Cassie answer some of it, but I can tell you on one of them, particularly

03:10:15.940 --> 03:10:21.020
 the airport, we shouldn't be using our reserves and we are, that's why we're doing a master

03:10:21.020 --> 03:10:27.420
 plan to look at other, uh, points of revenue. Um, you really don't want to dip down into

03:10:27.420 --> 03:10:30.900
 your reserves unless your reserves start getting to a point where you, you have more money

03:10:30.900 --> 03:10:38.020
 than you really need to based on whether it's, um, by ordinance or whatever. So, um, I know

03:10:38.020 --> 03:10:41.840
 we're getting to the end of this one. I don't know where she is. She's kinda, Matt's giving

03:10:41.840 --> 03:10:46.780
 her some information, but for some, we don't even want to be dipping into our reserves,

03:10:46.780 --> 03:10:56.700
 but we're having to. And I think for some of these funds, um, in the previous presentation

03:10:56.700 --> 03:11:03.420
 that we showed, um, in July, we have a target fund balance that each of the utilities is

03:11:03.420 --> 03:11:09.380
 trying to reach. And so when we are over those target fund balances, it's a question of do

03:11:09.380 --> 03:11:15.820
 we utilize that fund balance to pay down some of those rate increases in that year or do

03:11:15.820 --> 03:11:20.740
 we pay for one-time capital needs or do we raise the rates? And so what you're seeing

03:11:20.740 --> 03:11:25.740
 is those are some of the trade-offs that we've made in some of these funds. Um, for electric,

03:11:25.740 --> 03:11:30.700
 they were over the fund balance targets, so we're bringing that, we're using those fund

03:11:30.700 --> 03:11:36.700
 balances to bring that fund balance within the target range. Wastewater was below, so

03:11:36.700 --> 03:11:42.940
 that's why you're seeing the rate increase, um, of 11% in '24.

03:11:42.940 --> 03:11:53.640
 So that's, the 11% is reflected in the 43.796, the revenue, 43.796. Um, okay.

03:11:53.640 --> 03:11:58.820
 Some of the 12.8, I don't know if you remember, we had, we talked about that, um, developer

03:11:58.820 --> 03:12:04.620
 contribution money. That's, that's part of what that was showing in the current year.

03:12:04.620 --> 03:12:08.740
 We had a developer that was contributing about eight and a half million dollars to a specific

03:12:08.740 --> 03:12:13.820
 project and that's what we were showing. Okay, all right. And then refresh my memory

03:12:13.820 --> 03:12:23.400
 on the electric 12% rate increase for either, or 3% for four years or one, one-time 12%.

03:12:23.400 --> 03:12:27.780
 Was that taking into consideration the possibility of the new campus or that's, that's excluding

03:12:27.780 --> 03:12:29.620
 the new campus? That was including the new campus.

03:12:29.620 --> 03:12:34.680
 So that, would you say that's pretty much the? I don't think it's all of the drive-through.

03:12:34.680 --> 03:12:39.300
 It's not all of it, but it may be some of it. Yeah, no, we, we address that at the,

03:12:39.300 --> 03:12:43.820
 well, are we going to talk about that? Is that a close, is that a close session item?

03:12:43.820 --> 03:12:52.700
 Okay. All right. All right. Nevermind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, all right.

03:12:52.700 --> 03:13:03.700
 Thank you. Okay. I guess this is more reactive. I think it's more reactive. I think it's more

03:13:03.700 --> 03:13:10.260
 reaction than the question. I kind of got it for a minute that you were doing zeros

03:13:10.260 --> 03:13:18.300
 on the other, uh, utilities because we're doing 11 on, uh, on wastewater because that

03:13:18.300 --> 03:13:23.720
 had to be, and so it's just total pocketbook impact until I look and I see it's still going

03:13:23.720 --> 03:13:28.620
 to be 10, 11, 12 for multiple years out. So I, I iterate back to saying, let's smooth

03:13:28.620 --> 03:13:33.940
 it out. And no reason to just, you know, if instead of a bunch of sevens and eights, maybe

03:13:33.940 --> 03:13:42.700
 we can do sixes, you know, across and get a little bit ahead. Okay. Any other questions?

03:13:42.700 --> 03:13:52.620
 Councilor McGee. Thank you Mr. Mayor. So if there is consensus among us, I wouldn't mind

03:13:52.620 --> 03:13:56.780
 hearing if it's helpful from the departments to see how, how this will affect them. If

03:13:56.780 --> 03:14:02.820
 we, if we extended this out over, over five years rather than just some of these just

03:14:02.820 --> 03:14:09.460
 hidden in four years. Councilor McGee, I can tell you that, uh, I don't want to speak for

03:14:09.460 --> 03:14:14.780
 Tony, but you know, he, if we had her driven, we probably would go ahead and start increasing.

03:14:14.780 --> 03:14:19.800
 So we get people in the queue doing a 3%, 3%. So it's consistent. Again, it was just the

03:14:19.800 --> 03:14:26.560
 shock of, because if you look at that chart, we have not done anything. I mean, literally

03:14:26.560 --> 03:14:34.980
 since 2021 we reduced, we reduced, 2020 we reduced, we reduced, 2019 reduced, 18, and

03:14:34.980 --> 03:14:41.500
 the only time we raised was 2017. So when you think about it, if you're a taxpayer for

03:14:41.500 --> 03:14:46.020
 all these many years and all of a sudden, wow, 11%. So we were trying to be, okay, 11%

03:14:46.020 --> 03:14:52.060
 this year, but as eloquently as council member Meltzer mentioned, it's another 11 on, on

03:14:52.060 --> 03:14:58.780
 that and then 10 and then 10 because the, all the other factors, cost of, the cost of

03:14:58.780 --> 03:15:03.660
 doing business, the equipment, the supplies of things and everything.

03:15:03.660 --> 03:15:13.780
 Okay. So I guess my plug is just to, to extend it and let's go ahead and get started then.

03:15:13.780 --> 03:15:19.780
 However, I need to, to do that. Okay. Are we posting for direction on this particular

03:15:19.780 --> 03:15:25.220
 part? Yeah. Are you ready for that, Mr. Mayor? Yeah, she's, yes. Okay. Well, I guess you've

03:15:25.220 --> 03:15:30.860
 already got mine. So thank you. And that's for all departments if, you know, thank you,

03:15:30.860 --> 03:15:31.860
 ma'am.

03:15:31.860 --> 03:15:38.500
 Mayor, can I get just real quick? So for electric and water, right now we're in the heaviest

03:15:38.500 --> 03:15:43.620
 usage periods. So that's one of the reasons we usually kind of wait because they'll bring

03:15:43.620 --> 03:15:50.380
 in the most money during the hottest part of the year. So electric generally, we can

03:15:50.380 --> 03:15:54.700
 forecast all we want, but it's still a prediction. Just like last year we predicted to have a

03:15:54.700 --> 03:16:00.900
 rate increase this year. It came in much higher than what we, we anticipated. So that's why

03:16:00.900 --> 03:16:09.980
 we're not bringing you a rate increase this, for FY24. I think based on the current weather,

03:16:09.980 --> 03:16:15.580
 we will be okay in electric for next year without a rate increase based on the current

03:16:15.580 --> 03:16:22.660
 year usage. Same with water. Wastewater is really driven by the capital plan right now.

03:16:22.660 --> 03:16:28.980
 We are having to expand our wastewater infrastructure. That is expensive. The wastewater portion

03:16:28.980 --> 03:16:35.860
 of your bill is a lot smaller, but that's the, that's the current need. We can definitely

03:16:35.860 --> 03:16:41.860
 bring you back as we get further into the budget of how we're, how the revenues are

03:16:41.860 --> 03:16:47.100
 coming in. But I, I really, I really think electric and water are probably going to be

03:16:47.100 --> 03:16:51.540
 fine. They won't need the rate increase next year based on the weather right now.

03:16:51.540 --> 03:16:56.340
 Well, I think what Cassie, what I'm going to ask is we do some trends analysis as we

03:16:56.340 --> 03:17:00.140
 give them what, where are we on current revenues for both of those funds and then trends analysis

03:17:00.140 --> 03:17:04.220
 of what we see coming so that council can look at that whole picture to see what they

03:17:04.220 --> 03:17:08.020
 want to do. But the other thing is for wastewater and solid waste, those are both going to have

03:17:08.020 --> 03:17:12.060
 to go up. So even then we'll come back with a recommendation on that.

03:17:12.060 --> 03:17:17.100
 Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you. Yeah, that's part of the reason I was

03:17:17.100 --> 03:17:23.260
 asking for what is the mean. I mean, because to the extent that y'all just said, it's,

03:17:23.260 --> 03:17:27.220
 you know, most of these bills are, or some of the bills are much lower. So, you know,

03:17:27.220 --> 03:17:32.820
 if you've got a $400 electrical bill, then 11% is, you know, less larger than a hundred

03:17:32.820 --> 03:17:40.740
 dollar wastewater bill. So I would, I'm interested in what, what is the average detonite looking

03:17:40.740 --> 03:17:46.040
 at in these different models in terms of, okay, overall, you're looking at a hundred

03:17:46.040 --> 03:17:50.860
 dollars a year increase or $50 a year increase or $200 a year increase, because that'll give

03:17:50.860 --> 03:17:58.700
 us some perspective on how, what we're comfortable with. And then also some perspective to take

03:17:58.700 --> 03:18:03.900
 back to the taxpayers, like, you know, that sounds huge, but it's, it's really not, you

03:18:03.900 --> 03:18:09.980
 know, if for this fund, then, you know, and short of jumping to the end, you will see

03:18:09.980 --> 03:18:14.300
 that at the end of the presentation. And, and Steven, would you say this time of the

03:18:14.300 --> 03:18:18.340
 year, the last three months, you get your, your, the vast majority? Yeah. And as someone

03:18:18.340 --> 03:18:26.940
 who used to work for directly for water utility, I loved a hot, dry summer. Loved it.

03:18:26.940 --> 03:18:40.900
 Okay. And I had a question, I didn't write it down though. Okay. So do you have, I, I'm

03:18:40.900 --> 03:18:51.780
 not in that number that wants to accelerate the, the rate for the reason you, that Cassie

03:18:51.780 --> 03:19:00.140
 touched on, it's just, I want to allow for the seasons to play out those sort of things

03:19:00.140 --> 03:19:06.740
 and, and see where we are and if we can avoid it, great. Because it's, it is a challenge

03:19:06.740 --> 03:19:12.660
 when you, and I thank Cassie for that example, because once you straddle that line of, our

03:19:12.660 --> 03:19:18.180
 recommendation says this balance and we get above that balance by a significant amount,

03:19:18.180 --> 03:19:23.620
 you, do you give it back? Do you continue to grow your balance? You know, there's just,

03:19:23.620 --> 03:19:30.740
 it's, it's, it's difficult to kind of level set that. And so such that we don't have to

03:19:30.740 --> 03:19:37.860
 take it and we can function and, and obviously wastewater is different than I'm willing to

03:19:37.860 --> 03:19:42.860
 take staff's guidance. Because remind me, we've talked about it in the past. So projections

03:19:42.860 --> 03:19:49.820
 one, two years out, I mean, none of it's spot on, but fair and then you get two years out

03:19:49.820 --> 03:19:55.340
 and it's, it's kind of harder. It's based on assumptions. It's based on usage assumptions.

03:19:55.340 --> 03:19:59.940
 It's based on population growth assumptions. There's a lot of factors that go into it.

03:19:59.940 --> 03:20:05.180
 Right. Yeah. So, so that's a challenge for me. And so I would just take staff's recommendation

03:20:05.180 --> 03:20:08.740
 that, because, and then the other thing for people tracking along, that's what I was going

03:20:08.740 --> 03:20:13.660
 to say, wastewater, what is that? So if I'm the lay, if I'm the lay person just kind of,

03:20:13.660 --> 03:20:19.180
 I don't understand what wastewater, what calculates wastewater. Can you help me understand that

03:20:19.180 --> 03:20:24.940
 from a residential, from a commercial? Yeah. Every time you flush your toilet. Okay. Got

03:20:24.940 --> 03:20:30.060
 it. So if you have a leaky toilet or you're flushing your toilet or all those things,

03:20:30.060 --> 03:20:35.300
 that water, water down the drain, the hand sink or no? Yes. It's anything that goes into

03:20:35.300 --> 03:20:41.020
 the, into the wastewater system. Anything that leaves your house. Okay. Anything that

03:20:41.020 --> 03:20:50.060
 leaves. Got it. Yes. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Councilman Watts. And, and I think an additional

03:20:50.060 --> 03:20:56.580
 note on that, if I'm not mistaken, wastewater rates are determined on usage between certain

03:20:56.580 --> 03:21:02.580
 months of water usage, which are the sort of off months. Is it December, January? Is

03:21:02.580 --> 03:21:07.180
 it December? It's your winter months. I'm sure there's, there's dates specific within

03:21:07.180 --> 03:21:11.980
 those winter months, but it's when, it's when you are not, you know, you're not irrigating.

03:21:11.980 --> 03:21:17.100
 You're not using any, any, you assume to not be using any excess water. It's all in all

03:21:17.100 --> 03:21:22.860
 household related at that point. Okay. I guess my question on that is because I know, I think

03:21:22.860 --> 03:21:28.580
 the practice is still there, that if you have a leak that's underground or cannot be seen,

03:21:28.580 --> 03:21:32.920
 it's not, if your toilet's running or you got a dripping faucet that you see every day,

03:21:32.920 --> 03:21:36.780
 but if you've got a sprinkler line, if you've got something that's water line busted, that

03:21:36.780 --> 03:21:43.180
 you can get a, a credit based upon your average usage from the utilities, if you show that

03:21:43.180 --> 03:21:51.680
 it's been fixed by a plumber, if it required a permit. And if that occurs in those months,

03:21:51.680 --> 03:21:58.060
 those winter months, is that taken into consideration when they do the calculation for the wastewater?

03:21:58.060 --> 03:22:03.820
 In other words, if you, if you got a leak in November that generates 30,000 gallons

03:22:03.820 --> 03:22:10.320
 of waste, of water, which then goes to your wastewater, is that, is that taken into consideration

03:22:10.320 --> 03:22:13.700
 if you show that it's? Good, because I can only answer from my experience

03:22:13.700 --> 03:22:16.500
 with a yes, but we also now have a confirmed yes.

03:22:16.500 --> 03:22:19.820
 Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So that is, that is calculated.

03:22:19.820 --> 03:22:21.900
 It's not part of that calculation. Yes, that would be part of the leak adjustment

03:22:21.900 --> 03:22:24.660
 if the leak occurs during your winter months averaging period.

03:22:24.660 --> 03:22:33.260
 Thank you. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. People want to hear us talk about

03:22:33.260 --> 03:22:36.740
 their drip. Yeah. Mayor and council, Krista Foster.

03:22:36.740 --> 03:22:41.020
 Hold on, hold on, hold on. You see that? Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor.

03:22:41.020 --> 03:22:43.780
 I didn't catch you. Can you explain that for council member Watson

03:22:43.780 --> 03:22:47.020
 or council member Holland, what the drip is? Yeah, drip your clothes. Everyone, you know,

03:22:47.020 --> 03:22:50.940
 like your clothes is your drip. So, so people want to hear you when you talk about the drip

03:22:50.940 --> 03:22:58.780
 was the line. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I still, I still not sure.

03:22:58.780 --> 03:23:04.620
 So when you apply for a leak adjustment, if it covered one of the winter months, then

03:23:04.620 --> 03:23:09.780
 yes, we are going to adjust that as part of the average. If you have a leak that maybe

03:23:09.780 --> 03:23:14.580
 it didn't qualify, you had already had two leak adjustments in a year, whatever, we will

03:23:14.580 --> 03:23:16.700
 still adjust your wastewater. Okay. Good.

03:23:16.700 --> 03:23:20.380
 Yeah. So we will definitely work with you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

03:23:20.380 --> 03:23:30.660
 Okay. Anyone else? Any other questions, comments? Okay. So do you have -- I know there's more.

03:23:30.660 --> 03:23:33.100
 Do you have what you need for this segment of things?

03:23:33.100 --> 03:23:39.340
 Yes. Okay. Mayor, we'll -- we will look at just sort

03:23:39.340 --> 03:23:43.620
 of kind of that trends and then as we get closer to the end of the year, you know, when

03:23:43.620 --> 03:23:48.260
 you all have to vote, we'll be able to give you information about where we are on revenues

03:23:48.260 --> 03:23:53.900
 for water, DME, and those kinds of things. So you can make an informed decision.

03:23:53.900 --> 03:23:58.620
 So on the -- on wind arrays, that sort of thing, that will come back to us?

03:23:58.620 --> 03:24:01.620
 That's correct. Okay. Great. Mayor Proctor.

03:24:01.620 --> 03:24:08.580
 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. No, I'm just confused. So we're not providing

03:24:08.580 --> 03:24:11.220
 direction now or you want direction now or not?

03:24:11.220 --> 03:24:17.940
 You can, but I'm getting a little bit of -- I don't support it. And so I said we'd come

03:24:17.940 --> 03:24:23.580
 back looking at the two funds that we know won't have, like solid waste will not have

03:24:23.580 --> 03:24:31.740
 a big boatload of revenue coming in that could make a difference. And then you have wastewater.

03:24:31.740 --> 03:24:37.100
 So the water and the DME is the one that we'll know our numbers, because I will tell you,

03:24:37.100 --> 03:24:43.840
 we made $800,000 in one day off of DME. I'm not making it, but we generated $800,000 worth.

03:24:43.840 --> 03:24:48.020
 So you're going to see the true numbers from water and water usage a little further down

03:24:48.020 --> 03:24:53.620
 the line, so you can make a more informed decision about what you want to do. Wastewater,

03:24:53.620 --> 03:25:00.340
 I don't know how we sell out or smooth out 11% when it's 11, 11, 10, 10, 10. And then

03:25:00.340 --> 03:25:04.140
 solid waste, now that's one I think you're going to hear about and you can definitely

03:25:04.140 --> 03:25:06.900
 tell us what you want to do there. Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm not going to

03:25:06.900 --> 03:25:16.460
 provide direction for me until I get more information. Okay, good.

03:25:16.460 --> 03:25:29.180
 All right. Well, good afternoon. My name's Matt Hamilton, interim budget manager, here

03:25:29.180 --> 03:25:36.860
 to present the fiscal year 2024 capital improvement program and capital budget. So just to tell

03:25:36.860 --> 03:25:43.420
 you a little bit about our capital budget process, every year in October and November,

03:25:43.420 --> 03:25:49.300
 we do some pre-kickoff planning this year. We got together with the capital projects

03:25:49.300 --> 03:25:55.820
 group and determined what information it was that we wanted departments to submit and how

03:25:55.820 --> 03:26:02.820
 they were to submit for those projects. And then in December, we held a CIP kickoff city

03:26:02.820 --> 03:26:10.180
 wide where departments were able to submit any projects that they had, both for this

03:26:10.180 --> 03:26:17.180
 upcoming year as well as the four years thereafter. And so what we provided to them was just some

03:26:17.180 --> 03:26:24.820
 historical capital improvement project information as a starting point. From there, the capital

03:26:24.820 --> 03:26:31.960
 projects group sat down with the various departments to work through scopes and schedules and costs

03:26:31.960 --> 03:26:38.780
 associated with each of these projects. And then from there, that data was put together

03:26:38.780 --> 03:26:44.180
 just in an internal mapping system so that we could see where all the various departments'

03:26:44.180 --> 03:26:50.800
 projects overlapped and could be better coordinated. And all that data was then given to finance

03:26:50.800 --> 03:26:57.340
 for us to review for financial feasibility. And here we are today reviewing the projects

03:26:57.340 --> 03:27:02.180
 that we'd like to propose to move forward with.

03:27:02.180 --> 03:27:09.020
 So I know that you've seen this table probably many times, but this is the 2019 bond program

03:27:09.020 --> 03:27:15.380
 issue and schedule. So we are in the fifth year of that program and are expected to issue

03:27:15.380 --> 03:27:23.060
 35.6 million. That will cover street reconstruction, the neighborhood street reconstruction program,

03:27:23.060 --> 03:27:31.820
 Creek Creek, sidewalks, street lighting, and also funding for Ryan Road. This was, I'll

03:27:31.820 --> 03:27:37.300
 note, just originally a seven-year program, but we do intend to wrap it up next year,

03:27:37.300 --> 03:27:43.220
 which would be the sixth year, so a year ahead of originally planned. This is the five-year

03:27:43.220 --> 03:27:51.980
 CIP funding plan for the general government. And so this is going to include facilities,

03:27:51.980 --> 03:28:01.100
 parks, traffic, fleet, drainage, as well as streets. So in total, what we are proposing

03:28:01.100 --> 03:28:10.540
 is 126 million in next year's CIP. The primary driver of that number is the facility improvements

03:28:10.540 --> 03:28:17.040
 that are needed, technology services improvements, as well as roadway improvements. And there's

03:28:17.040 --> 03:28:22.700
 some specific projects and items on some upcoming slides.

03:28:22.700 --> 03:28:30.300
 So of the 126 million, we anticipate 6.8 million will be revenue funded. That's money, operating

03:28:30.300 --> 03:28:38.620
 dollars that are collected in that current year, impact fees of 3.6 million, the 35.6

03:28:38.620 --> 03:28:47.620
 million from the 2019 bond election, and then 80 million in certificates of obligation.

03:28:47.620 --> 03:28:57.980
 So this is a five-year overview of the utilities. And so in total, this is showing 200 million.

03:28:57.980 --> 03:29:03.540
 What is not here is the wastewater line, which is 62 million. So in the presentation that

03:29:03.540 --> 03:29:08.660
 you saw on July 18th with utilities, that 62 million was included. And it is included

03:29:08.660 --> 03:29:13.780
 in the annual program of services book that you have there in the electronic copy. So

03:29:13.780 --> 03:29:20.900
 I apologize if it's left off here. So in total, it would be 262 million.

03:29:20.900 --> 03:29:30.020
 So getting into the specific departments, electric, we anticipate $93 million in new

03:29:30.020 --> 03:29:36.780
 expenditure next year for CIP. Of that, 82 million would be debt issued, 69 million from

03:29:36.780 --> 03:29:45.340
 operating, and 3.7 million in cost participation. These project categories and amounts for this

03:29:45.340 --> 03:29:53.100
 slide in particular is just for next year that they intend to use for these. The total

03:29:53.100 --> 03:30:00.900
 building construction, however, is about 75 million. So next year would be 5 million for

03:30:00.900 --> 03:30:09.260
 the design. But I think if there's any questions on that specific project, we can discuss that

03:30:09.260 --> 03:30:17.920
 in a closed session. So for water, new capital appropriations

03:30:17.920 --> 03:30:25.220
 of 96 million. We do anticipate 82 million of that to be debt funded. 7.9 million coming

03:30:25.220 --> 03:30:31.140
 from operating revenues and 5 million in cost participation. Some of the major projects

03:30:31.140 --> 03:30:36.980
 and what you'll see on this slide and the subsequent slides are the fiscal years in

03:30:36.980 --> 03:30:42.500
 which these projects will take place. So the 14 million for the automated meter reading

03:30:42.500 --> 03:30:50.420
 replacement, that 14 million is the total cost of the project over these fiscal years.

03:30:50.420 --> 03:30:58.100
 So meter reading is one of the larger projects. Elm and Locust Phase 2 replacing the water

03:30:58.100 --> 03:31:05.360
 lines there. Lake Louisville raw water treatment transmission line. The Ray Roberts plant capacity

03:31:05.360 --> 03:31:12.980
 rerate and performance upgrades. The plant disinfection conversion as well as 27.2 million

03:31:12.980 --> 03:31:20.120
 in total to supplement the 2019 bond election projects to replace the water lines associated

03:31:20.120 --> 03:31:31.260
 with those street projects. So wastewater, new appropriations of 61.3 million. 55.9 is

03:31:31.260 --> 03:31:37.960
 anticipated to be issued in new debt with -- excuse me, 2.8 million from operating revenues

03:31:37.960 --> 03:31:48.320
 and 2.5 million from a dedicated vehicle fund. So the largest project from now through fiscal

03:31:48.320 --> 03:31:57.820
 year 2028 is the concrete plant expansion. They also have the concrete plant headworks,

03:31:57.820 --> 03:32:05.220
 the oversized participation and, again, supplement to the 2019 bond election in the amount of

03:32:05.220 --> 03:32:16.980
 22 million. For solid waste, we anticipate 10.6 million in new appropriation. Of that,

03:32:16.980 --> 03:32:24.620
 7.8 would be debt issuance and 3.5 million from operating revenues. The major projects

03:32:24.620 --> 03:32:31.940
 include cell 5 and 6 construction, expansion of the home chemical collection storage capacity,

03:32:31.940 --> 03:32:42.260
 as well as vehicles and additions to their solid waste fleet. Facilities, we do anticipate

03:32:42.260 --> 03:32:50.620
 24.8 million in new appropriations this year or upcoming year. And of that amount, all

03:32:50.620 --> 03:32:58.040
 of it would be debt funded. The major projects over the next five years include the facility

03:32:58.040 --> 03:33:02.460
 condition deferred maintenance, which are maintenance items that were identified in

03:33:02.460 --> 03:33:10.260
 the facility condition assessment. Facility capital maintenance, which are current maintenance

03:33:10.260 --> 03:33:18.260
 items and items that we know are coming up on their end of life. 4.8 million in facility

03:33:18.260 --> 03:33:26.900
 ADA upgrades and 27 million for the service center renovation, which is just the general

03:33:26.900 --> 03:33:35.540
 fund portion of that project. The total project is approximately 40 million, so 7 million

03:33:35.540 --> 03:33:40.740
 would come from both the water and wastewater departments each, and those have been budgeted

03:33:40.740 --> 03:33:51.380
 in their respective budgets. Technology services, we anticipate 17.5 million. New capital appropriations

03:33:51.380 --> 03:33:58.020
 next year, all of that would be debt funded. The major projects include citywide fiber

03:33:58.020 --> 03:34:05.140
 replacement, asset management software, CAD, RMS replacement, infrastructure replacement,

03:34:05.140 --> 03:34:17.020
 and new land management software. For fleet, we're proposing 9.68 million in

03:34:17.020 --> 03:34:24.460
 new capital appropriations. All of that would also be CEO debt issuance. The major projects

03:34:24.460 --> 03:34:32.340
 include the addition of equipment and furnishings for the new fleet expansion, 22.1 million

03:34:32.340 --> 03:34:39.260
 in vehicle replacements, and 1.5 million, which is just for this upcoming year in vehicle

03:34:39.260 --> 03:34:47.220
 additions. Parks and recreation, new capital appropriations

03:34:47.220 --> 03:34:55.740
 next year of 7.56 million, 2 million of which would be debt issuance, 1.1 from operating,

03:34:55.740 --> 03:35:03.980
 4.3 million from other dedicated funding sources such as grants, donations, or our internal

03:35:03.980 --> 03:35:11.900
 land development funds that we have for parks. So the major projects over the next five years

03:35:11.900 --> 03:35:20.980
 include some arts and culture. Quite a bit of that is hot funded and funded from some

03:35:20.980 --> 03:35:29.280
 other sources. Aquatic improvements of 15.9 million, which are some improvements, especially

03:35:29.280 --> 03:35:35.500
 to the Waterworks Park in years four and five that we know are upcoming. Playground improvements

03:35:35.500 --> 03:35:43.380
 of 2.7 million, and we replace about three playgrounds a year. And then park development

03:35:43.380 --> 03:35:51.220
 and land acquisition for 5.2 million, and I'll just note in this category, the 5.2 million

03:35:51.220 --> 03:35:56.240
 is primarily park development, so land that we've already acquired, but it's the master

03:35:56.240 --> 03:36:03.860
 plans to develop those parks. Public works, we're anticipating 26.1 million

03:36:03.860 --> 03:36:10.020
 in new capital appropriations. The full amount would be debt issued. These are the major

03:36:10.020 --> 03:36:18.020
 projects that are driving this number. So Bonnie Bray, both phases 4B and 5, we did

03:36:18.020 --> 03:36:26.020
 add 5.5 million for the McKinney sidewalk project. This is the only addition to the

03:36:26.020 --> 03:36:32.580
 CIP from when you saw it on June 27th. And then traffic improvements for 2.3 million

03:36:32.580 --> 03:36:42.340
 and drainage improvements of 1.3 million. Any questions on the capital improvement program?

03:36:42.340 --> 03:36:49.540
 Yeah, I just -- going back to the last slide, help me understand -- I know we talked about

03:36:49.540 --> 03:36:56.300
 it, but what's the direction going forward on the McKinney sidewalks? Because when I

03:36:56.300 --> 03:37:00.380
 looked at the map after our conversation, you drop down a block going towards downtown,

03:37:00.380 --> 03:37:05.820
 you can walk up -- you can walk Hickory, I think that's right, sidewalks all the way.

03:37:05.820 --> 03:37:11.820
 And then going the other way towards the loop, if that's the concern, because the loop already

03:37:11.820 --> 03:37:17.600
 has sidewalk, then you can drop down to potentially Dutchess if we punch that through, and that

03:37:17.600 --> 03:37:25.420
 takes you to the loop, to sidewalk to go north-south on the loop. And there's not as busy road

03:37:25.420 --> 03:37:29.300
 as trying to acquire it right away and all of the things that the challenges with McKinney.

03:37:29.300 --> 03:37:37.020
 So what is that identified to do? Sure. So Trevor Crane, director of capital

03:37:37.020 --> 03:37:41.180
 projects. So we still have the opportunity to look at all those options that you're talking

03:37:41.180 --> 03:37:48.020
 about. This 5.5 is really specific to buying that right-of-way and completing those sections

03:37:48.020 --> 03:37:53.420
 of sidewalk along McKinney that aren't currently there. It's going to have to be done one way

03:37:53.420 --> 03:38:01.280
 or the other. We're looking at putting that McKinney full right-of-way street project

03:38:01.280 --> 03:38:06.560
 into the next bond coming up. And so these sidewalks are going to have to either be done

03:38:06.560 --> 03:38:11.420
 now or included in that project moving forward. And so we still have every opportunity to

03:38:11.420 --> 03:38:15.100
 kind of look through those other options that you're talking about. But we wanted to go

03:38:15.100 --> 03:38:19.100
 ahead and put this into capital projects to start looking at acquiring that right-of-way

03:38:19.100 --> 03:38:24.920
 and completing that full width sidewalks that is going to be needed at some point moving

03:38:24.920 --> 03:38:32.060
 forward. Okay. So and what's the -- remind me, range

03:38:32.060 --> 03:38:37.380
 of sidewalk -- because I just don't know that there's -- I just didn't do the math in my

03:38:37.380 --> 03:38:42.460
 head to say $5 million worth of sidewalk going from where to where.

03:38:42.460 --> 03:38:48.100
 Sure. So we looked at a map. There's probably about -- if we include both sides of the sidewalk

03:38:48.100 --> 03:38:55.020
 or both sides of the street between Woodrow to Loop 28, there's about 13 properties where

03:38:55.020 --> 03:38:58.260
 there's gaps in that sidewalk. So there's a lot of places where the developers have

03:38:58.260 --> 03:39:04.700
 already come in. They put in sidewalk at the correct spot. So we would just need to connect

03:39:04.700 --> 03:39:11.980
 those pieces. The majority of that 5.5 is going to be right-of-way acquisition to fill

03:39:11.980 --> 03:39:16.860
 in those gaps. So like I mentioned, you know, that right-of-way is going to have to be acquired

03:39:16.860 --> 03:39:20.180
 one way or the other. Either we're going to buy it when we come in and do the ultimate

03:39:20.180 --> 03:39:25.340
 street section or we can start looking at it now to get that property and fill in those

03:39:25.340 --> 03:39:32.520
 sidewalk sections. Okay. And that's everything on the street

03:39:32.520 --> 03:39:43.540
 portion. Then on the parks portion, just a note on the aquatics improvements. Are we

03:39:43.540 --> 03:39:51.220
 capturing more from Denton ISD or are we in discussions with them? Because that seems

03:39:51.220 --> 03:40:01.100
 to be the usage or calibration thereof and recoup. There's -- you know, I'm always sensitive

03:40:01.100 --> 03:40:06.220
 when other governmental entities generate more emails from me. I'm just selfish that way.

03:40:06.220 --> 03:40:10.300
 Like I'm not excited about that at all. Right? Like I don't go to your meetings, don't come

03:40:10.300 --> 03:40:16.700
 to my meetings. Right? I mean, you with me? So I just want to understand. We have a plan

03:40:16.700 --> 03:40:25.940
 going forward. Yes. Okay. And that is we do have line items

03:40:25.940 --> 03:40:34.720
 in the budget where we anticipate that partnership and relationship and revenue for these aquatic

03:40:34.720 --> 03:40:46.380
 improvements and so it has been factored in. This is above and beyond what I think that

03:40:46.380 --> 03:40:49.300
 that would contribute. Certainly. Yes. Just want to make sure those

03:40:49.300 --> 03:40:53.780
 conversations are ongoing and that we're right sizing that to -- yes.

03:40:53.780 --> 03:40:58.860
 Yep. Perfect. Okay. Any other questions?

03:40:58.860 --> 03:41:05.180
 Councilman Watts. A couple of questions. I'm going to start

03:41:05.180 --> 03:41:11.060
 backwards so I can remember. So on the aquatics, I did remember getting some correspondence

03:41:11.060 --> 03:41:19.300
 about some concerns about ISD, practice schedules, school -- and that's all great. I just want

03:41:19.300 --> 03:41:24.900
 to make sure that we're not having to spend all this money so that we can give our citizens

03:41:24.900 --> 03:41:31.420
 an opportunity to have the same access to these water facilities and that if we are

03:41:31.420 --> 03:41:40.180
 improving access for our partners and capacity, is that reflected somewhere in a contribution

03:41:40.180 --> 03:41:47.740
 not just of, you know -- because I know the contract says for the -- an editorial that

03:41:47.740 --> 03:41:54.100
 we split costs. I know for the water park we split costs and we split the revenue, which

03:41:54.100 --> 03:41:59.100
 is really -- so on the -- on the natatorium, our current contract is I think we split it

03:41:59.100 --> 03:42:02.700
 all 50/50. Is that right? That's right.

03:42:02.700 --> 03:42:06.980
 With this new -- with these new improvements that do improve -- I think it's called flat

03:42:06.980 --> 03:42:16.020
 water. Do you guys call it flat water? Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Is there a similar

03:42:16.020 --> 03:42:23.700
 opportunity for that? Because that will expand opportunity even if we said we're going to

03:42:23.700 --> 03:42:28.900
 move a lot of our citizen programs over to the new flat water. It opens up more programming

03:42:28.900 --> 03:42:35.300
 for our partners in the current natatorium. Is that factored in here anyway?

03:42:35.300 --> 03:42:39.740
 Yeah. I would try to answer your question a few different times, different ways. Gary

03:42:39.740 --> 03:42:44.300
 Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation. So keep in mind the natatorium was built for

03:42:44.300 --> 03:42:50.060
 Denton when we had two high schools. So we're fitting more students into the same building

03:42:50.060 --> 03:42:56.340
 and we've added water polo to it. So now everyone's trying to get including our residents those

03:42:56.340 --> 03:43:03.220
 sweet time -- sweet pinpoint times in regards to before work, after work, after dinner type

03:43:03.220 --> 03:43:08.460
 thing. Everyone's trying to get the same time. So we do not have enough flat water to satisfy

03:43:08.460 --> 03:43:13.020
 a lot of our programs. So that's the first challenge. Recently what's occurred is we've

03:43:13.020 --> 03:43:19.020
 had some infrastructure failure that we're dealing with that's created that pinch point

03:43:19.020 --> 03:43:22.780
 even more. Because we're only be able to open up in the mornings because of the high temperatures

03:43:22.780 --> 03:43:26.500
 we have to close the other day when I'm not air circulation. So that's another challenge

03:43:26.500 --> 03:43:32.460
 that we're working through and hopefully that gets resolved next week. But truthfully we

03:43:32.460 --> 03:43:39.500
 need another facility, indoor facility, to really satisfy the entire community, both

03:43:39.500 --> 03:43:45.580
 schools and the students, from an indoor perspective. Now on the bond program we have some outdoor

03:43:45.580 --> 03:43:49.060
 improvements that are much needed as well considering that whole facility was built

03:43:49.060 --> 03:43:55.220
 the same time. There is some flat water, outdoor flat water that's a component to that, that

03:43:55.220 --> 03:44:00.180
 will give us additional flat water space for programming so we can kind of alleviate some

03:44:00.180 --> 03:44:05.420
 of that pressure in the short term as well as it provides some swimming on the shoulder

03:44:05.420 --> 03:44:09.980
 seasons of the summer that we could use for programming as well.

03:44:09.980 --> 03:44:16.220
 Sure, and I appreciate that answer and so my question boils down to I understand that

03:44:16.220 --> 03:44:24.260
 our community has grown and the school district has exploded. So I just would, to be quite

03:44:24.260 --> 03:44:29.020
 candid, I'm not sure why the school district doesn't look at building its own facility

03:44:29.020 --> 03:44:35.020
 and why we're talking about if we're adding flat water at our expense, are they participating

03:44:35.020 --> 03:44:36.020
 in this at all?

03:44:36.020 --> 03:44:40.380
 Yeah, so those conversations are ongoing with both DISD and UNT to try to figure out how

03:44:40.380 --> 03:44:46.420
 we can, we all have challenges that we need for space and how we could accomplish those

03:44:46.420 --> 03:44:48.340
 throughout teamwork in cooperation.

03:44:48.340 --> 03:44:57.060
 So not to discourage participation and partnerships. I don't want to run in, I won't be answering

03:44:57.060 --> 03:45:00.900
 the question. Twenty years from now somebody's going to be sitting in this seat wondering

03:45:00.900 --> 03:45:06.220
 oh, we built this together with somebody else. Well, now we're out of space and time and

03:45:06.220 --> 03:45:11.700
 why aren't these, I just think sometimes partnerships are great, but also we need to make sure that

03:45:11.700 --> 03:45:18.220
 number one, it's equitable and number two, that everybody's bearing the same cost. It's

03:45:18.220 --> 03:45:22.900
 just been a very difficult stretch and I didn't know we had the contract with an auditorium

03:45:22.900 --> 03:45:26.820
 for 50 years. I thought it was like, I thought it expired in the '20s. I thought it expired

03:45:26.820 --> 03:45:33.220
 in this decade. So I just want to make sure that the city taxpayers aren't going to necessarily

03:45:33.220 --> 03:45:39.540
 be covering a lot of the additional expense for flat water so we can get access to facilities

03:45:39.540 --> 03:45:44.940
 that we're in partnership with because our partner has a greater need for that programming

03:45:44.940 --> 03:45:46.780
 space. That's all I'm saying.

03:45:46.780 --> 03:45:52.460
 So I will say this, I'm going to have a meeting with Jamie, I meet with him on a regular basis.

03:45:52.460 --> 03:45:57.980
 It's true, if we're going to add flat water and they've added water polo, so it's taking

03:45:57.980 --> 03:46:03.940
 up more time in that facility that should be for citizens. I'm going to ask him to meet

03:46:03.940 --> 03:46:09.620
 me at the table to look at how they can provide funding to pay for some of the flat water,

03:46:09.620 --> 03:46:15.780
 but also we've got to look at this together about the future of aquatics. If they're going

03:46:15.780 --> 03:46:21.300
 to keep, they're adding high schools and middle schools, we're going to have to either jointly

03:46:21.300 --> 03:46:26.660
 pay for an addition or another facility or something, but there comes a point when it's

03:46:26.660 --> 03:46:30.140
 fine for the agreement you have now with two high schools, but when you start adding more

03:46:30.140 --> 03:46:36.420
 high schools and more sports, then it negates what that agreement is. So I'm going to have

03:46:36.420 --> 03:46:41.380
 that conversation. And we get along great, we'll work it out.

03:46:41.380 --> 03:46:46.940
 So I've just got a couple more questions, Mayor. So if we can go back to the slide that

03:46:46.940 --> 03:46:59.700
 shows all the street projects, what slide is that? I think it's slide 33. And I only

03:46:59.700 --> 03:47:03.820
 use this as an illustration, don't really have a specific question about this. I only

03:47:03.820 --> 03:47:09.740
 use this as an illustration on my comments earlier about a $1 million street fund, that

03:47:09.740 --> 03:47:15.700
 even if you were adding $5 million a year to a street fund, look at the totals down

03:47:15.700 --> 03:47:22.020
 there. I mean, so anyway, then the next one, the last one is help me understand because

03:47:22.020 --> 03:47:29.220
 I've never quite got this. I'm looking in our program services manual or worksheet booklet,

03:47:29.220 --> 03:47:36.260
 page 49. And it's the FY '24 proposed annual program service. It's the big, it's the big

03:47:36.260 --> 03:47:44.420
 thing. It's the all comprehensive both for resources and expenditures. So we always talk

03:47:44.420 --> 03:47:50.060
 about how big our budget is 1.8 billion. So I'm looking at capital improvement program,

03:47:50.060 --> 03:47:56.940
 which is a lion's share of a lot of that. Yes. So for instance, in this particular these

03:47:56.940 --> 03:48:02.060
 slides, we show a five year CIP expenditure and funding. And this is I guess general government

03:48:02.060 --> 03:48:10.100
 general fund, so forth and so on of 126 million is proposed for 2024. And then the five year

03:48:10.100 --> 03:48:16.900
 utility CIP expenditure on slide 35 of the presentation is 200 million 323. And those

03:48:16.900 --> 03:48:23.140
 are two separate, you got the 126 and the 2 million 323. Correct. So that those those

03:48:23.140 --> 03:48:29.500
 numbers are reflected in that capital improvement program figure of 926 million. Is that correct?

03:48:29.500 --> 03:48:36.200
 Correct. So now give me the relationship between that number and the FY 2023 adopted number

03:48:36.200 --> 03:48:41.580
 of seven because those two don't add. I mean, if I just add 303 million or 300 million to

03:48:41.580 --> 03:48:47.820
 738, that doesn't get me 926. So apparently somebody gets paid off. I just need to understand

03:48:47.820 --> 03:48:53.060
 the relationship on how all this works from a capital improvement program because we're

03:48:53.060 --> 03:49:02.480
 not spending $920 million in 2024. That's correct. So from a budget process perspective,

03:49:02.480 --> 03:49:11.340
 we have to budget as if every dollar would be expended. And in that 930 I'm sorry, $929

03:49:11.340 --> 03:49:19.980
 million number, two thirds of that is existing funding. Right. So we have to appropriate

03:49:19.980 --> 03:49:26.100
 for those dollars. Okay. So as dollars are spent throughout the year, and depending on

03:49:26.100 --> 03:49:34.100
 how much is spent, then that number plus what we are proposing here would get us to 920.

03:49:34.100 --> 03:49:40.420
 So that number represents last year's number less any payoffs and anything that we still

03:49:40.420 --> 03:49:48.660
 have budgeted to spend, in essence. Correct. If you turn to page 111, don't tell me I didn't

03:49:48.660 --> 03:49:55.780
 read all the way through or that, you know, you make me look bad. I just missed it. You

03:49:55.780 --> 03:50:01.980
 didn't give Matt any of the tough questions. So you saved them all for me. Page 111 outlines

03:50:01.980 --> 03:50:06.500
 all the different funding sources and the difference between what's already been appropriated

03:50:06.500 --> 03:50:12.700
 versus new appropriations. Fantastic. You know what, that's on me and that's good. I

03:50:12.700 --> 03:50:17.580
 appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Thank

03:50:17.580 --> 03:50:25.220
 you, Cassie. Okay. Any other questions? Mayor Pro Tem? And then Councilman McGee. I thought

03:50:25.220 --> 03:50:29.980
 I understood the aquatics funding, but let me just real briefly, because I'm not sure

03:50:29.980 --> 03:50:39.940
 I do anymore after all the conversation. The $16 million in the budget is our projected

03:50:39.940 --> 03:50:48.700
 expenditures over the next year, but there's additional projected expenditures from DISD.

03:50:48.700 --> 03:50:57.980
 So let me go back to the parks. Or is that the total projected expenditures? This is

03:50:57.980 --> 03:51:05.100
 the total expenditure over the period 2024 through 2020. So it is not just next year.

03:51:05.100 --> 03:51:11.760
 Okay. And yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, but does this include the DISD part? No. Okay.

03:51:11.760 --> 03:51:17.020
 So over that same four-year period, there would be some additional contribution from

03:51:17.020 --> 03:51:22.260
 the school district. There would be. So what's reflected here in the expenditure budget is

03:51:22.260 --> 03:51:32.060
 our ability to expend those dollars. It's not a net number. So we don't take the DISD

03:51:32.060 --> 03:51:38.100
 portion and then our portion and net them together. This is just what we would need

03:51:38.100 --> 03:51:47.380
 to expend in our budget. So it is not in the capital budget. Yes. And again, getting back

03:51:47.380 --> 03:51:54.420
 to some of the other questions, are the open public times and the program times for school

03:51:54.420 --> 03:52:03.700
 districts, is that ratio reflected in the total? So the operations, that's a scheduling

03:52:03.700 --> 03:52:09.180
 question, correct? Essentially, yes. Yeah. So we're trying to shoehorn as much time as

03:52:09.180 --> 03:52:14.060
 we can. I'll have to follow up with you and give you an exact breakdown of hours and lanes

03:52:14.060 --> 03:52:19.820
 in regards to how much is being used for both the public and the schools. I don't have that

03:52:19.820 --> 03:52:23.420
 off the top of my head. But we're trying to balance it. At certain times of the year,

03:52:23.420 --> 03:52:32.980
 it's heavier on the schools and as a community. But it's an ongoing challenge. Okay. All right.

03:52:32.980 --> 03:52:38.020
 Some of the lines of questioning just got, I thought I had it. So thank you for that

03:52:38.020 --> 03:52:41.820
 clarification. I appreciate it. A lot of the numbers that are shown here also are the water

03:52:41.820 --> 03:52:47.860
 park side of improvements as well with renovations to that facility. And this is over a four

03:52:47.860 --> 03:52:51.640
 or five year period too. So it's not just next year. When we get, and I know we always

03:52:51.640 --> 03:52:59.100
 get to the more granular budgeting further on in the process. But if we could put into

03:52:59.100 --> 03:53:04.660
 perspective the total scheduling and operating budget, our portions, their portions, the

03:53:04.660 --> 03:53:10.620
 water park, the auditoriums, just so that we can kind of get a feel for those various

03:53:10.620 --> 03:53:14.700
 ratios, even if the numbers are going to change during negotiations, even if we're going to

03:53:14.700 --> 03:53:20.060
 charge them programming rates for water polar or whatever it is y'all end up doing. Just

03:53:20.060 --> 03:53:26.380
 so that we understand, you know, and it very well could be that we're like, you know what,

03:53:26.380 --> 03:53:31.780
 this is a community good. We'll eat this portion of the cost in order to have something for

03:53:31.780 --> 03:53:35.420
 the community. But I think we still need to put that into perspective.

03:53:35.420 --> 03:53:40.020
 Yeah. DISD for instance, they make certain improvements to the facility that is quote

03:53:40.020 --> 03:53:44.220
 unquote their half that they contribute when that was originally built. So there's kind

03:53:44.220 --> 03:53:48.540
 of an outline of how those improvements are made to the facility itself.

03:53:48.540 --> 03:53:51.460
 I appreciate it. That's all my questions, Mr. Mayor. Thank you.

03:53:51.460 --> 03:53:52.460
 Okay. Councilman McGee.

03:53:52.460 --> 03:53:58.060
 Wait, Gary, before you leave, I haven't heard anyone just talk about the raw numbers of

03:53:58.060 --> 03:54:00.620
 DISD students versus residents.

03:54:00.620 --> 03:54:04.700
 Yeah. I'll have to get an answer to that. How many?

03:54:04.700 --> 03:54:09.340
 Okay. I heard you talk about land usage and times. I'm just talking about bodies. So,

03:54:09.340 --> 03:54:10.340
 okay.

03:54:10.340 --> 03:54:11.340
 Yeah.

03:54:11.340 --> 03:54:16.060
 Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I just have a quick question for Stephen, if you don't mind. Looking

03:54:16.060 --> 03:54:22.820
 at some of the major projects, with respect to those that are multi-year, are you going

03:54:22.820 --> 03:54:26.820
 to be breaking those down evenly among the years or are some years going to hit us a

03:54:26.820 --> 03:54:31.700
 little harder, a little less, like, you know, for example, is that going to be seven and

03:54:31.700 --> 03:54:34.660
 seven or 10 and four? Just generally.

03:54:34.660 --> 03:54:35.660
 I would say that-

03:54:35.660 --> 03:54:36.660
 Waste water too, of course.

03:54:36.660 --> 03:54:40.460
 On the wastewater side, when we get into construction, that's when we're going to see a lot of dollars

03:54:40.460 --> 03:54:47.140
 spent. The lighter years are when we're in the design phase, if that answers your question.

03:54:47.140 --> 03:54:54.940
 So the upfront or the initial phases of the project, it's a lower spend, but as you launch

03:54:54.940 --> 03:54:58.100
 into construction, your spend goes up significantly.

03:54:58.100 --> 03:54:59.100
 And that's true with all of them?

03:54:59.100 --> 03:55:00.100
 Yes, sir.

03:55:00.100 --> 03:55:01.100
 Okay. So, basically, they're all going to be backloaded?

03:55:01.100 --> 03:55:02.100
 Okay.

03:55:02.100 --> 03:55:03.100
 Essentially.

03:55:03.100 --> 03:55:04.100
 Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

03:55:04.100 --> 03:55:13.460
 Any other, Steve, why are you there? I have a question. Why are you there? And this has,

03:55:13.460 --> 03:55:18.940
 it's budget related, but not directly numbers. So how much wastewater are we talking about

03:55:18.940 --> 03:55:22.500
 in the city? And then how much of that is able to be re-reused?

03:55:22.500 --> 03:55:26.900
 That's a complicated question.

03:55:26.900 --> 03:55:33.020
 Right now, the plant capacity is roughly 21 million gallons a day. Our average flows are

03:55:33.020 --> 03:55:38.260
 right around 17 million gallons a day. We have an authorization. It's what we call a

03:55:38.260 --> 03:55:44.260
 210 authorization through TCEQ. We can reuse up to 6 million gallons a day. We're currently

03:55:44.260 --> 03:55:52.220
 only reusing about one-tenth of that through, I believe, Oakmont is our largest user. And

03:55:52.220 --> 03:55:56.140
 if you recall, we talked about having our, doing our long-term strategic plans, doing

03:55:56.140 --> 03:56:01.540
 our master plans. One of those master plans is a reclaimed water master plan. And what

03:56:01.540 --> 03:56:05.480
 that's going to do, it's going to look at our existing reclaimed water system, our potential

03:56:05.480 --> 03:56:11.740
 to connect to that system and more fully leverage that resource. Did that answer your question?

03:56:11.740 --> 03:56:18.820
 It does. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Any other questions for staff? Seeing none.

03:56:18.820 --> 03:56:25.860
 Okay. One second. Council Member McGee.

03:56:25.860 --> 03:56:32.140
 Perhaps you don't need to get up, but is it fair to say that by 2028, we'll be fully using

03:56:32.140 --> 03:56:37.020
 as much reclaimed water as possible, just generally, after these improvements are made?

03:56:37.020 --> 03:56:43.500
 It depends. Steven Gade, Director of Water Utilities. It really does depend because with

03:56:43.500 --> 03:56:48.060
 this plant expansion that we're going through right now, adding that 5 million gallons,

03:56:48.060 --> 03:56:53.900
 we have every intention of approaching TCEQ for what they call bed and banks permit. So

03:56:53.900 --> 03:56:59.700
 what that allows us to do is take the discharge from that plant and put it into a bank, so

03:56:59.700 --> 03:57:04.900
 a waterway, and we'll go into Lake Louisville, and then we can reclaim that as potable water.

03:57:04.900 --> 03:57:09.460
 So we'll retreat it, and that's what happens with all the wastewater facilities along in

03:57:09.460 --> 03:57:16.220
 Texas. That's what they do. They discharge to a waterway. It blends with surface water,

03:57:16.220 --> 03:57:22.780
 and then it's treated for drinking water. So that's part of the strategy. Reusing the

03:57:22.780 --> 03:57:27.540
 water from like indirect and for irrigation uses is part of the strategy, but when we

03:57:27.540 --> 03:57:33.900
 get that additional 5 million, we'll also petition to increase our allocation for that

03:57:33.900 --> 03:57:39.060
 indirect. So we have 6 million right now. We're going to ask for another 5 million,

03:57:39.060 --> 03:57:43.260
 but that wastewater or the reclaimed water master plan is actually going to inform all

03:57:43.260 --> 03:57:48.940
 of that. So it's going to look for those opportunities to see if we can actually leverage all of

03:57:48.940 --> 03:57:53.700
 that. It's our hope. It's our intent to use every single drop of reclaimed water we can

03:57:53.700 --> 03:57:54.700
 possibly use.

03:57:54.700 --> 03:57:59.340
 Thank you, Mr. Merritt. Thank you, Stephen. I'm done. I promise.

03:57:59.340 --> 03:58:06.220
 That's good. I beat up on Denton High a little bit, but I should celebrate them playing Marco

03:58:06.220 --> 03:58:10.780
 Polo in high school. That's good. I was really good at that game, but I'd always say every

03:58:10.780 --> 03:58:16.100
 now and again, it's going to call for fish out of water. Is that what they're playing,

03:58:16.100 --> 03:58:17.100
 Marco Polo?

03:58:17.100 --> 03:58:19.140
 I don't know. Water polo.

03:58:19.140 --> 03:58:26.060
 Oh, water polo. Never mind. Never mind. Different game. Okay.

03:58:26.060 --> 03:58:33.220
 Before we move on, I just want to recognize that was Matt's first presentation to council,

03:58:33.220 --> 03:58:38.220
 and he did a great job.

03:58:38.220 --> 03:58:39.220
 Yes, he did great.

03:58:39.220 --> 03:58:46.540
 He did leave me with the bad news because I get stuck showing you the debt tax break.

03:58:46.540 --> 03:58:52.940
 We talked about this in June, but since we finalized our debt sale numbers in July, the

03:58:52.940 --> 03:58:58.260
 tax rate portion or the debt tax portion, we finalized it slightly higher than what

03:58:58.260 --> 03:59:06.940
 I showed in June, so 20.5 cents and still increasing in 25, about two and a half cents

03:59:06.940 --> 03:59:18.240
 based on the projected debt sale in the capital program. If you don't have any questions about

03:59:18.240 --> 03:59:22.540
 the debt portion of the tax rate, we'll move on to internal service funds.

03:59:22.540 --> 03:59:30.540
 I do have one thing I want to talk about because your note was interesting in discussing the

03:59:30.540 --> 03:59:35.840
 pending bond program, but I don't know how much predictability, obviously very little,

03:59:35.840 --> 03:59:43.940
 but if there are any indicators we can leverage, from memory I think you said $17 million over

03:59:43.940 --> 03:59:50.940
 the some time period, I think since the 2014 bond maybe, of refinancing debt, we were able

03:59:50.940 --> 03:59:57.820
 to realize the savings of $17 million in just restructuring debt or something like that.

03:59:57.820 --> 04:00:02.900
 Are there any indicators or are those just opportunities that when they show up they

04:00:02.900 --> 04:00:10.140
 show up and there's no real way to account for opportunities to refinance? For example,

04:00:10.140 --> 04:00:15.620
 over 10 years we're going to have an opportunity to refinance once and we should save X amount?

04:00:15.620 --> 04:00:19.520
 Is that a real formula? We look at it annually, because our bonds are

04:00:19.520 --> 04:00:25.300
 I think it's nine year callable, so we look at it every year, we go to our financial advisors

04:00:25.300 --> 04:00:28.300
 and look at the marketplace, what does the interest rate look like, what were we paying

04:00:28.300 --> 04:00:35.700
 on the interest rate, is it going to be beneficial for us to refinance those or refund the bonds?

04:00:35.700 --> 04:00:39.920
 But as far as projecting forward, like looking at this like a debt budget perspective, is

04:00:39.920 --> 04:00:46.900
 there a way to say, okay well every X amount of years this should be able to be refinanced

04:00:46.900 --> 04:00:51.780
 and reduced to some degree? We know what is able to be refunded, what we

04:00:51.780 --> 04:00:55.740
 don't know is that interest rate, so what the market conditions are going to look like,

04:00:55.740 --> 04:01:02.140
 so it would be very difficult for me to say we could see a savings of X dollar amount,

04:01:02.140 --> 04:01:04.620
 just because I don't know what the market conditions are going to be, but we do look

04:01:04.620 --> 04:01:10.340
 at it every year, so if it's favorable we will refund, if it's not then we won't,

04:01:10.340 --> 04:01:15.420
 but it has been favorable the last five years. Okay, so it's just one of those things if

04:01:15.420 --> 04:01:21.220
 it shows up you take advantage of it but it's not a good financial practice to count on

04:01:21.220 --> 04:01:25.820
 that. Right, we show the tax rate is fully loaded without any of the refundings that

04:01:25.820 --> 04:01:30.380
 already haven't occurred just to account for all scenarios.

04:01:30.380 --> 04:01:38.400
 Got it, okay. Okay, thank you. All right, so moving on to internal service

04:01:38.400 --> 04:01:48.060
 funds, so these funds they provide services to the government organization, the budget

04:01:48.060 --> 04:01:52.500
 is based on reimbursement of actual cost and then those costs are allocated out to the

04:01:52.500 --> 04:01:58.660
 different funds. We do have eight internal service funds at the city, so we have several

04:01:58.660 --> 04:02:04.980
 supplemental requests for internal service funds amounting to 2.6 million dollars, so

04:02:04.980 --> 04:02:11.740
 I'll go through those supplemental requests. We have a total of 18 and a half FTEs, so

04:02:11.740 --> 04:02:18.220
 position requests in internal service funds. Two in fleet management, you may recall we

04:02:18.220 --> 04:02:24.420
 are expanding the fleet, the number of bays we have at fleet, and so these two technicians

04:02:24.420 --> 04:02:30.780
 are, we added two last year, so this is the final two that needed for the expansion. And

04:02:30.780 --> 04:02:36.100
 then data center co-location, we talked about this last year, council directed us to bring

04:02:36.100 --> 04:02:41.060
 this back and look at some different options, so we've brought it back this year. I believe

04:02:41.060 --> 04:02:48.860
 this is a contracted service now in conjunction with the utilities. And then for tech services

04:02:48.860 --> 04:02:54.140
 they're requesting three FTEs, so Alicia's gone through and looked at a five-year kind

04:02:54.140 --> 04:03:00.780
 of position planning, so she's been requesting a few positions every year to right-size her,

04:03:00.780 --> 04:03:06.820
 the organization's needs for tech services, as well as some additional software for police.

04:03:06.820 --> 04:03:10.380
 And then engineering services, as you know we're cranking out those capital projects

04:03:10.380 --> 04:03:16.660
 we saw the capital budget, all of those projects are managed by our capital project team, and

04:03:16.660 --> 04:03:21.660
 so they are requesting two FTEs, so a program manager and another project manager to be

04:03:21.660 --> 04:03:28.060
 able to manage those capital projects. Customer service, you saw this budget earlier in July

04:03:28.060 --> 04:03:35.420
 I believe, they're requesting six FTEs in customer service, and those are primarily

04:03:35.420 --> 04:03:42.140
 funded through the utilities, and then facilities management is requesting three FTEs, and then

04:03:42.140 --> 04:03:48.160
 environmental services you saw this budget in July also asking for two and a half FTEs

04:03:48.160 --> 04:03:53.300
 as well as some software for a total of 2.6 million.

04:03:53.300 --> 04:03:59.620
 Cassie, will you just give a brief overview so the public hears it too about what does

04:03:59.620 --> 04:04:03.180
 that mean when you say internal services, where does that money coming from to fund

04:04:03.180 --> 04:04:06.580
 those positions? So the internal services are funded by all

04:04:06.580 --> 04:04:11.860
 of the other funds, so general fund and the utilities all pay into internal service funds,

04:04:11.860 --> 04:04:16.460
 and we do what we call a true up at the end of the year, so for instance customer service

04:04:16.460 --> 04:04:21.580
 because it's funded primarily from the utilities, if they don't spend all of their money in

04:04:21.580 --> 04:04:27.160
 a given year, then we only take what they expense and then we allocate back the rest

04:04:27.160 --> 04:04:34.120
 to whoever paid into that fund, so electric, water, waste water, solid waste, same with

04:04:34.120 --> 04:04:37.780
 the other way if they spent more than what we budgeted, we bring a budget amendment to

04:04:37.780 --> 04:04:46.360
 council and then we would reallocate those expenses back to the utilities.

04:04:46.360 --> 04:04:51.940
 So just a quick overview, because I'm only showing the expenses only because the revenues

04:04:51.940 --> 04:04:59.420
 are the exact same as the expenses, so it's the same amount that you see in the FY24 proposed,

04:04:59.420 --> 04:05:03.960
 but all of these are based on cost allocation, so we have a model that we go through and

04:05:03.960 --> 04:05:10.620
 we say what portion of the fund is providing services to general fund, utilities, and then

04:05:10.620 --> 04:05:18.200
 we allocate those costs accordingly, so facilities, $6.8 million proposed in FY24, you can see

04:05:18.200 --> 04:05:24.180
 fleet management, materials management is primarily driven by the cost of goods in the

04:05:24.180 --> 04:05:29.660
 warehouse, so we do have a warehouse function that the majority of that cost is coming from

04:05:29.660 --> 04:05:37.140
 our increased cost of just goods in the warehouse, and then engineering $12.1 million, customer

04:05:37.140 --> 04:05:46.500
 service $9.8 million, technology services $21.9 million, risk $7.9 million, and that

04:05:46.500 --> 04:05:54.380
 is the decrease from the estimate to the proposed is based on our safety, we're bringing those

04:05:54.380 --> 04:06:00.100
 positions back in house, we had a contracted safety service, but that's coming back in

04:06:00.100 --> 04:06:07.220
 house and we're hiring those positions, and then health, we are seeing substantial increases

04:06:07.220 --> 04:06:12.780
 in our health fund, and so that's the driver of that increase that you're seeing, the $36.4

04:06:12.780 --> 04:06:21.500
 million in the health fund, we're budgeting about 10 to 12% increases in health fund expenses

04:06:21.500 --> 04:06:23.580
 for the city.

04:06:23.580 --> 04:06:29.980
 >> Okay, internal service fund questions, Councilman Watts.

04:06:29.980 --> 04:06:36.460
 >> Just for clarification, so when we see those internal service funds, I'm looking

04:06:36.460 --> 04:06:48.300
 at slide, which one, it's the five year forecast, and I'm looking at those, so where is that,

04:06:48.300 --> 04:06:55.720
 I see transfers in the expenditures, but where does this show up here?

04:06:55.720 --> 04:07:04.580
 >> So the transfers are in other revenues, so it's revenue coming back, right, so utilities,

04:07:04.580 --> 04:07:10.580
 and then also the internal service funds, and then also transfers out is going to internal

04:07:10.580 --> 04:07:12.160
 service funds.

04:07:12.160 --> 04:07:17.860
 >> So then the list of the internal service funds that you had in all those expenditures,

04:07:17.860 --> 04:07:22.020
 that, could you able to switch to that real quick?

04:07:22.020 --> 04:07:23.020
 >> Sure.

04:07:23.020 --> 04:07:36.780
 >> I still have to ask every year, but so propose, so if you added up all of those,

04:07:36.780 --> 04:07:42.340
 those are the internal service funds, I mean, that's going to be what, a lot of money.

04:07:42.340 --> 04:07:44.860
 >> Right, but it's not all funded by general fund.

04:07:44.860 --> 04:07:46.220
 >> Right, no, no, I understand that.

04:07:46.220 --> 04:07:50.460
 >> Right, so that portion, whatever that general fund portion is, that's the $22.6 million

04:07:50.460 --> 04:07:53.020
 that you saw in the five year forecast.

04:07:53.020 --> 04:07:59.540
 >> All those would have the same kind of configuration of transfers in, or transfers out, and those

04:07:59.540 --> 04:08:04.020
 all should add up to what these all add up to.

04:08:04.020 --> 04:08:05.020
 >> Yes.

04:08:05.020 --> 04:08:06.020
 >> Okay.

04:08:06.020 --> 04:08:07.020
 >> Councilman McGee.

04:08:07.020 --> 04:08:13.500
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

04:08:13.500 --> 04:08:20.860
 On the supplemental packages slide, so looking at the Smart Force software, is that something

04:08:20.860 --> 04:08:24.140
 we're contracting with an outside company, or is that something we are purchasing and

04:08:24.140 --> 04:08:25.140
 going to run in-house?

04:08:25.140 --> 04:08:29.500
 >> I'm going to ask Frank to come up and answer that question.

04:08:29.500 --> 04:08:34.700
 >> Good afternoon, Frank Dixon, Assistant City Manager.

04:08:34.700 --> 04:08:40.500
 That's going to be a program that's connected with Axon Equipment.

04:08:40.500 --> 04:08:46.540
 So the same company that does our tasers and body cameras, cameras inside the vehicles

04:08:46.540 --> 04:08:48.220
 and cameras inside the interview rooms.

04:08:48.220 --> 04:08:51.440
 This is going to be another component that goes into Axon.

04:08:51.440 --> 04:08:55.380
 It's like a tracking software for internal investigations.

04:08:55.380 --> 04:08:57.740
 >> So that means this is going to be yearly cost then, too?

04:08:57.740 --> 04:09:00.020
 >> Well, it's going to be added to the contract.

04:09:00.020 --> 04:09:03.900
 So the next time we go into the contract with Axon, I'll be built into the overall cost.

04:09:03.900 --> 04:09:04.900
 >> Okay.

04:09:04.900 --> 04:09:05.900
 >> This is to add it.

04:09:05.900 --> 04:09:06.900
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

04:09:06.900 --> 04:09:07.900
 Thank you, Frank.

04:09:07.900 --> 04:09:10.740
 >> Any other questions?

04:09:10.740 --> 04:09:14.740
 Okay.

04:09:14.740 --> 04:09:15.740
 >> Special revenue funds.

04:09:15.740 --> 04:09:19.340
 So special revenue funds are a little different than internal service funds.

04:09:19.340 --> 04:09:24.800
 These revenue sources are restricted for specific use based on the creation of the funds.

04:09:24.800 --> 04:09:29.740
 So whatever the ordinance that created the funds said, they are restricted.

04:09:29.740 --> 04:09:33.220
 So we have 22 special revenue funds.

04:09:33.220 --> 04:09:38.260
 We'll go through a quick high-level overview of each of these funds.

04:09:38.260 --> 04:09:42.220
 So the downtown TERS, you can see the revenues and expenses.

04:09:42.220 --> 04:09:51.580
 So we had a certified estimate of $261 million, estimated revenue of a little over a million.

04:09:51.580 --> 04:09:56.940
 The incremental value did decrease from 95 to 90%.

04:09:56.940 --> 04:10:01.120
 And then we do have a downtown reimbursement grant program, and we're expected those expenses

04:10:01.120 --> 04:10:06.340
 to be a little over a million dollars in FY24.

04:10:06.340 --> 04:10:09.740
 Here's the appraised value history of the downtown TERS.

04:10:09.740 --> 04:10:23.380
 So only saw a slight -- or 4.19% increase this year compared to 7.8 last year.

04:10:23.380 --> 04:10:31.220
 West Park TERS, so our -- you can see the beginning fund balance of 1.5.

04:10:31.220 --> 04:10:37.160
 We are expecting to deplete the fund balance this next year just based on incentive payment.

04:10:37.160 --> 04:10:45.940
 And so estimated revenue of 1.3 million for this fund, incremental value is at 40%.

04:10:45.940 --> 04:10:51.940
 And you can see the incentive payments of $715,000 next year.

04:10:51.940 --> 04:10:57.340
 The REC fund, I said earlier, we're proposing to dissolve the REC fund, mostly because the

04:10:57.340 --> 04:11:02.520
 transfers -- General Fund was transferring quite a bit of money back into the REC fund,

04:11:02.520 --> 04:11:06.380
 because obviously the fees do not cover the full expense.

04:11:06.380 --> 04:11:12.300
 So these are merged into the General Fund in FY24.

04:11:12.300 --> 04:11:17.060
 The Sustainability Framework Fund, this is a recently created fund.

04:11:17.060 --> 04:11:21.900
 We're proposing to -- the revenue is to be $2 million.

04:11:21.900 --> 04:11:27.660
 We'll talk more about this revenue source in closed session.

04:11:27.660 --> 04:11:38.200
 And then the Catalyst Fund, we are proposing $150,000 of revenue in '24.

04:11:38.200 --> 04:11:43.540
 However, this is a council kind of decision as to where you want to allocate the funding

04:11:43.540 --> 04:11:48.760
 from Catalyst Fund, because it doesn't have a specific revenue source.

04:11:48.760 --> 04:11:54.100
 The current fund balance of this fund is about -- is $3.4 million right now.

04:11:54.100 --> 04:11:56.580
 So they've received $3.4 million.

04:11:56.580 --> 04:12:02.180
 We do not currently have any projects identified for expenses out of this fund, but another

04:12:02.180 --> 04:12:05.060
 council decision point.

04:12:05.060 --> 04:12:11.220
 Because I know that council talked about quite a lot during their strategy session about

04:12:11.220 --> 04:12:14.020
 prioritizing economic development.

04:12:14.020 --> 04:12:24.460
 So this fund is for that purpose, but it does not have a specific revenue source.

04:12:24.460 --> 04:12:29.820
 So Street Improvement Fund, you can see the $15.7 million that we talked about earlier

04:12:29.820 --> 04:12:35.820
 coming from franchise fees, so that's an increase of $600,000 in FY24.

04:12:35.820 --> 04:12:39.540
 You can see the use of reserves of $5.9 million.

04:12:39.540 --> 04:12:43.940
 That is proposing to use the fund balance.

04:12:43.940 --> 04:12:49.960
 Since this is a special revenue fund, we don't have a fund balance requirement for this fund.

04:12:49.960 --> 04:12:57.100
 And so we're proposing to use that $5.9 million to fund some roadway projects next year.

04:12:57.100 --> 04:13:00.620
 So that's really what's driving the increase in this fund.

04:13:00.620 --> 04:13:04.780
 But you can see the transfer to capital, that's where the money goes out to the capital accounts

04:13:04.780 --> 04:13:11.780
 to pay for those reconstruction projects.

04:13:11.780 --> 04:13:17.540
 And then the Tourist and Convention Fund, this is the fund that we generate a hot occupancy

04:13:17.540 --> 04:13:20.060
 tax revenue from.

04:13:20.060 --> 04:13:24.780
 So our FY24 estimate is $3.8 million.

04:13:24.780 --> 04:13:31.540
 And these funds go to support local organizations that promote tourism and the hotel industry.

04:13:31.540 --> 04:13:36.460
 The Community Partnership Committee met on June 20th and made the funding allocation

04:13:36.460 --> 04:13:39.140
 recommendations to council.

04:13:39.140 --> 04:13:46.940
 They are proposing to use $578,000 of fund balance in this fund in FY24.

04:13:46.940 --> 04:13:50.300
 And I'll go to the expenditure summary.

04:13:50.300 --> 04:13:56.860
 So based on the applications and their review of the applications, these are the proposed

04:13:56.860 --> 04:14:05.220
 allocation amounts for each organization.

04:14:05.220 --> 04:14:10.380
 So slightly more than last year based on our revenue projections of bringing a little bit

04:14:10.380 --> 04:14:17.860
 more revenue in and then utilizing that fund balance in this fund.

04:14:17.860 --> 04:14:23.060
 And then we have several other special revenue funds and you can see the total expenditures

04:14:23.060 --> 04:14:31.820
 for each fund, Tree Mitigation Fund is proposing to use increased amount of expenses in this

04:14:31.820 --> 04:14:33.380
 next year.

04:14:33.380 --> 04:14:39.340
 Roadway Impact Fee Fund, this goes to supplement some of our capital projects based on the

04:14:39.340 --> 04:14:41.900
 impact fees collected.

04:14:41.900 --> 04:14:48.260
 Parkland Dedication Fund, Parkland Development Fund, Donation Funds, PEG Fund.

04:14:48.260 --> 04:14:51.800
 If you have any more questions about this, we can certainly answer them before we get

04:14:51.800 --> 04:15:00.060
 into ARPA funding.

04:15:00.060 --> 04:15:06.060
 I have, bear with me.

04:15:06.060 --> 04:15:11.340
 So my notes that you pointed out, we need to discuss at some point or give you direction

04:15:11.340 --> 04:15:16.220
 on the Catalyst Fund and Sustainability Framework Fund which will be enclosed.

04:15:16.220 --> 04:15:22.900
 But then the Catalyst Fund at some point is now kind of that or in future weeks?

04:15:22.900 --> 04:15:23.900
 Closed also.

04:15:23.900 --> 04:15:25.180
 Okay, got it.

04:15:25.180 --> 04:15:33.020
 And then I'll tell you, is there a concern, there's a concern for me, I'm asking is there

04:15:33.020 --> 04:15:42.380
 a concern on, should I be concerned about the Hot Fund's fund balance?

04:15:42.380 --> 04:15:46.100
 And because there are some significant increases, I'll look at the applications.

04:15:46.100 --> 04:15:50.540
 Are those posted somewhere where I can kind of, I mean, because for example, they seem

04:15:50.540 --> 04:15:53.900
 to be held pretty steady.

04:15:53.900 --> 04:15:59.500
 So bouncing back from a pandemic in '22 to '23, if there was going to be a jump, kind

04:15:59.500 --> 04:16:03.940
 of like, hey, let's jumpstart you back and get you back up and running, but you don't

04:16:03.940 --> 04:16:05.340
 see that.

04:16:05.340 --> 04:16:10.940
 And so to go from like a steady 40,000 to like a 60,000, just grabbing the top one,

04:16:10.940 --> 04:16:16.060
 I just need to understand what would, because that's always a contentious thing, right?

04:16:16.060 --> 04:16:19.340
 You have to put heads and beds and how is that evaluated and that sort of thing.

04:16:19.340 --> 04:16:22.440
 So I just want to dig into that a little deeper.

04:16:22.440 --> 04:16:23.440
 Where do I find that information?

04:16:23.440 --> 04:16:26.460
 There's no fund balance requirement of this fund.

04:16:26.460 --> 04:16:31.380
 The committee has historically tried to keep about a million dollars in fund balance.

04:16:31.380 --> 04:16:37.780
 The state is making us, we're going to be reporting the fund balance this year.

04:16:37.780 --> 04:16:43.340
 So my kind of recommendation to the committee when we went through the allocation was, it's

04:16:43.340 --> 04:16:47.420
 going to be better if you show utilization in the fund balance, so you're slowly bringing

04:16:47.420 --> 04:16:52.740
 that fund balance down since the state's wanting us to report it.

04:16:52.740 --> 04:16:58.120
 But other than that, I mean, again, revenues are based on our best guess, it's a projection.

04:16:58.120 --> 04:17:02.340
 So if the revenues don't come in, we may not, you know, we may be using more of that fund

04:17:02.340 --> 04:17:07.620
 balance, but just on the flip side, we could see higher revenues and then have more of

04:17:07.620 --> 04:17:09.700
 a fund balance utilized.

04:17:09.700 --> 04:17:12.480
 The applications are available.

04:17:12.480 --> 04:17:18.040
 We posted them as part of our agenda packet when the community partnership committee met

04:17:18.040 --> 04:17:22.100
 on June 20th, so we can give you a link to those applications.

04:17:22.100 --> 04:17:24.100
 I'm sure I have it.

04:17:24.100 --> 04:17:25.100
 You said June 20th?

04:17:25.100 --> 04:17:26.100
 Yes.

04:17:26.100 --> 04:17:27.100
 Okay.

04:17:27.100 --> 04:17:28.100
 I'll take a look.

04:17:28.100 --> 04:17:33.180
 And then the ambassador program, what portion, because I thought we were funding that all

04:17:33.180 --> 04:17:34.580
 another way.

04:17:34.580 --> 04:17:37.580
 There's a portion being requested from the hot buns.

04:17:37.580 --> 04:17:42.380
 I'll let Christine come up and answer that.

04:17:42.380 --> 04:17:46.500
 This portion is to extend the hours at Discover Denton.

04:17:46.500 --> 04:17:51.140
 We talked about Discover Denton on the square being kind of a touch point for the ambassador

04:17:51.140 --> 04:17:52.140
 program.

04:17:52.140 --> 04:17:56.540
 So for that to be a location where if someone has a question, that's kind of where they

04:17:56.540 --> 04:17:57.700
 can go to find them.

04:17:57.700 --> 04:18:02.100
 So it will extend the hours, opening those restrooms up a little longer.

04:18:02.100 --> 04:18:06.820
 So those costs are primarily related to making sure that we can do building access changes

04:18:06.820 --> 04:18:11.220
 so that the ambassador employees can get in and out of that facility.

04:18:11.220 --> 04:18:13.340
 Got it.

04:18:13.340 --> 04:18:19.900
 Just full disclosure, no direction or kind of, I hadn't fully baked that, but I don't

04:18:19.900 --> 04:18:23.900
 know that I'm comfortable with coming out of these dollars, but I understand why it's

04:18:23.900 --> 04:18:25.380
 coming out of these dollars initially.

04:18:25.380 --> 04:18:32.520
 I just need to, and then I don't know if $30,000 just under is enough to really spend much

04:18:32.520 --> 04:18:38.500
 time on the grand scheme of things, $30,000 and $1.9 billion.

04:18:38.500 --> 04:18:39.500
 I get it.

04:18:39.500 --> 04:18:42.940
 All right, let me just, I'll just process through that.

04:18:42.940 --> 04:18:48.260
 So any other questions on the special revenue fund?

04:18:48.260 --> 04:18:50.780
 Councilman Roegge.

04:18:50.780 --> 04:18:53.700
 That's a 28-4 for the downtown ambassadors.

04:18:53.700 --> 04:18:57.860
 Does that also include like the security keypad for those folks to get in and out?

04:18:57.860 --> 04:18:59.980
 Will that be wrapped up into that too?

04:18:59.980 --> 04:19:00.980
 Right.

04:19:00.980 --> 04:19:01.980
 Is that the line shared at cost?

04:19:01.980 --> 04:19:02.980
 Correct.

04:19:02.980 --> 04:19:06.580
 They broke it out separately from their main allocation that we typically provide to Discover

04:19:06.580 --> 04:19:07.580
 Denton.

04:19:07.580 --> 04:19:11.680
 That is only associated with those costs to extend the operating hours to kind of align

04:19:11.680 --> 04:19:13.680
 with our ambassador program.

04:19:13.680 --> 04:19:18.300
 Not the complete hours, but expand their hours and then the security access into the building.

04:19:18.300 --> 04:19:19.300
 Okay.

04:19:19.300 --> 04:19:20.300
 Councilman Nelson.

04:19:20.300 --> 04:19:26.700
 Yeah, I'm sorry if you said it and I missed it, but I don't see it on the slide.

04:19:26.700 --> 04:19:32.400
 What is the reserve, you know, the fund balance for hot funds that you're, that you've dipped

04:19:32.400 --> 04:19:37.260
 into, you know, or project to dip into, like what's out of how much?

04:19:37.260 --> 04:19:40.020
 Utilizing 578,000.

04:19:40.020 --> 04:19:41.020
 Out of how much?

04:19:41.020 --> 04:19:42.020
 What's that?

04:19:42.020 --> 04:19:44.420
 I believe it was a little over a million in fund balance.

04:19:44.420 --> 04:19:45.420
 I'll have to double-check.

04:19:45.420 --> 04:19:51.180
 So, I mean, is there 578,000 projected to, you know, left there to dip into?

04:19:51.180 --> 04:19:52.180
 Yes.

04:19:52.180 --> 04:19:53.180
 Yes.

04:19:53.180 --> 04:19:54.180
 You saw where I was going.

04:19:54.180 --> 04:19:55.180
 Okay.

04:19:55.180 --> 04:19:57.580
 What do we, what do we do the Denton Breakfast quantities for?

04:19:57.580 --> 04:19:59.500
 I know we fund the 4th of July.

04:19:59.500 --> 04:20:00.500
 Is that what that is?

04:20:00.500 --> 04:20:01.500
 No, it's a turkey roll.

04:20:01.500 --> 04:20:02.500
 Yes, that's correct.

04:20:02.500 --> 04:20:11.300
 Denton Breakfast quantities, this is a group you should join.

04:20:11.300 --> 04:20:16.740
 Oh, the bike rally, I'm sorry.

04:20:16.740 --> 04:20:17.740
 Yeah, yeah.

04:20:17.740 --> 04:20:22.900
 So, turkey roll is, yeah, sorry.

04:20:22.900 --> 04:20:23.900
 Any other questions?

04:20:23.900 --> 04:20:25.220
 That's a great point.

04:20:25.220 --> 04:20:26.220
 Thank you.

04:20:26.220 --> 04:20:30.420
 It's almost, that's a very coming to America, taste the soup, where's the spoon type event

04:20:30.420 --> 04:20:31.420
 there?

04:20:31.420 --> 04:20:32.900
 Yeah, they don't know what the turkey roll is.

04:20:32.900 --> 04:20:41.620
 You're like, hey, where's the soup, taste the soup, where's the spoon, aha, sorry.

04:20:41.620 --> 04:20:43.020
 American Rescue Plan.

04:20:43.020 --> 04:20:44.180
 American Rescue Plan Act.

04:20:44.180 --> 04:20:53.140
 So, you may recall the ARPA or American Rescue Plan Act was enacted March 11th, 2021.

04:20:53.140 --> 04:21:01.380
 So, it was 1.9 trillion in pandemic relief and 350 billion was authorized in state and

04:21:01.380 --> 04:21:03.500
 local government assistance.

04:21:03.500 --> 04:21:09.340
 These are the four kind of areas that the ARPA funds focused on.

04:21:09.340 --> 04:21:13.900
 So, respond to COVID and public health, premium pay for workers, invest in water and wastewater

04:21:13.900 --> 04:21:18.540
 infrastructure and replace revenue lost due to COVID.

04:21:18.540 --> 04:21:23.780
 And so, we went, we had several work sessions with council where we tried to establish the

04:21:23.780 --> 04:21:27.960
 City of Denton's kind of goals in utilizing our ARPA funds.

04:21:27.960 --> 04:21:32.500
 These were the goals that the city council directed, so create sustainable solutions,

04:21:32.500 --> 04:21:36.860
 address immediate needs and then we were trying to achieve long-term benefits.

04:21:36.860 --> 04:21:44.380
 We received two tranches of the funding, so 23.29 million altogether.

04:21:44.380 --> 04:21:50.420
 We received the first part in June 2021 and then the second half in June 2022.

04:21:50.420 --> 04:22:01.100
 So, year one, city council authorized 11.6 million in allocations to the specific projects.

04:22:01.100 --> 04:22:08.140
 So far, we're estimating to spend 10.6 in these specific projects.

04:22:08.140 --> 04:22:11.380
 You can see the project status there in the last column.

04:22:11.380 --> 04:22:19.460
 Still, a lot of these are in progress, so these are estimated as of the final allocations.

04:22:19.460 --> 04:22:25.280
 And then year two, all of the projects are still in progress, but city council allocated

04:22:25.280 --> 04:22:27.500
 originally 11.6.

04:22:27.500 --> 04:22:34.700
 We've issued a couple of informal staff reports to give council an update on kind of reallocating

04:22:34.700 --> 04:22:39.580
 some of the dollars based on where the need is, so you can see public safety equipment.

04:22:39.580 --> 04:22:45.300
 We reallocated some funding from year one to year two for public safety purchases.

04:22:45.300 --> 04:22:50.380
 So, you can see there the estimated expense for total, 23.29.

04:22:50.380 --> 04:22:55.940
 The funding has to be encumbered by the end of 2024 and then all the funds have to be

04:22:55.940 --> 04:23:02.580
 expensed by December 31st, 2026.

04:23:02.580 --> 04:23:05.140
 Any questions on ARPA?

04:23:05.140 --> 04:23:06.140
 >> Questions for Seth.

04:23:06.140 --> 04:23:07.140
 Councilman Harlan.

04:23:07.140 --> 04:23:08.140
 >> Please.

04:23:08.140 --> 04:23:09.140
 I had to look up tranches.

04:23:09.140 --> 04:23:10.940
 I've just never seen that word.

04:23:10.940 --> 04:23:14.140
 It's spot on, especially money, it says.

04:23:14.140 --> 04:23:20.100
 How was the American rescue plan, how was that publicized?

04:23:20.100 --> 04:23:24.740
 How did people know that was a thing?

04:23:24.740 --> 04:23:28.500
 >> We did a couple of social media pushes, I believe, and then we also have a website

04:23:28.500 --> 04:23:31.260
 and then you saw the dashboard earlier.

04:23:31.260 --> 04:23:36.180
 So we relied on our internal communications to kind of let the public know what was going

04:23:36.180 --> 04:23:40.500
 on because we did have a couple of grant opportunities and then we partnered with, on our arts and

04:23:40.500 --> 04:23:47.100
 culture grant, we partnered with the greater Denton arts council to kind of publicize those

04:23:47.100 --> 04:23:48.100
 grant opportunities.

04:23:48.100 --> 04:23:54.180
 >> But private businesses were apprised of that on the website or a public meeting or

04:23:54.180 --> 04:23:55.180
 something?

04:23:55.180 --> 04:23:56.180
 >> Yes.

04:23:56.180 --> 04:23:57.180
 >> Thank you.

04:23:57.180 --> 04:23:58.180
 >> Okay.

04:23:58.180 --> 04:24:01.180
 Any other questions for staff?

04:24:01.180 --> 04:24:02.180
 Okay.

04:24:02.180 --> 04:24:07.860
 And this, just to confirm, these are the funds we're using for the hotel expenses, right?

04:24:07.860 --> 04:24:08.860
 And so we're covered.

04:24:08.860 --> 04:24:09.860
 >> Yes.

04:24:09.860 --> 04:24:13.140
 >> So you expect those to stretch until 26, 25?

04:24:13.140 --> 04:24:20.260
 >> Until 2025, well, we have until 2026 to utilize them, but we expect to use them before

04:24:20.260 --> 04:24:21.260
 then.

04:24:21.260 --> 04:24:24.500
 >> Oh, so you don't, how long do we think?

04:24:24.500 --> 04:24:25.500
 >> 25.

04:24:25.500 --> 04:24:26.500
 >> 25.

04:24:26.500 --> 04:24:27.500
 >> That's what I thought.

04:24:27.500 --> 04:24:28.500
 Okay.

04:24:28.500 --> 04:24:29.500
 Got it.

04:24:29.500 --> 04:24:30.500
 Just make sure.

04:24:30.500 --> 04:24:31.500
 Great.

04:24:31.500 --> 04:24:32.500
 Any other questions?

04:24:32.500 --> 04:24:33.500
 Oh, Councilman McGee.

04:24:33.500 --> 04:24:35.420
 >> Yeah, this is just a small question about one thing I saw.

04:24:35.420 --> 04:24:41.060
 I noticed that it says the city's facilities COVID update, that's still in progress.

04:24:41.060 --> 04:24:42.060
 What's still happening?

04:24:42.060 --> 04:24:48.700
 >> You're talking about some of the things we're doing in the city facilities, like here

04:24:48.700 --> 04:24:53.420
 we did a different filtration system, things like that.

04:24:53.420 --> 04:24:54.420
 Yes.

04:24:54.420 --> 04:24:55.420
 Some of that's continuing.

04:24:55.420 --> 04:24:56.620
 We've completed a lot of it.

04:24:56.620 --> 04:24:58.460
 >> And we did have some supply chain issues.

04:24:58.460 --> 04:25:03.860
 We ordered the supplies and then during COVID weren't able to receive some of them, so we

04:25:03.860 --> 04:25:09.940
 had to change vendors that it's been taking a lot longer than anticipated to get the facility

04:25:09.940 --> 04:25:11.940
 changes made.

04:25:11.940 --> 04:25:14.260
 >> All right.

04:25:14.260 --> 04:25:15.260
 Okay.

04:25:15.260 --> 04:25:17.300
 Any other questions?

04:25:17.300 --> 04:25:18.300
 Great.

04:25:18.300 --> 04:25:19.300
 >> Okay.

04:25:19.300 --> 04:25:20.740
 Final summary.

04:25:20.740 --> 04:25:26.740
 So total budget, you can see the general fund is requesting 19 positions, internal service

04:25:26.740 --> 04:25:34.140
 positions, a request of 18 and a half FTEs, with utility requesting to add 14 positions,

04:25:34.140 --> 04:25:40.540
 $1.9 billion revenue budget, $1.9 billion expenditure budget.

04:25:40.540 --> 04:25:45.380
 The proposed budget includes no change to the overall tax rate.

04:25:45.380 --> 04:25:51.900
 And then includes $4.9 million for supplementals request for general fund, $2.6 million for

04:25:51.900 --> 04:25:57.280
 internal service funds, and then $1.7 million of one-time expenses from general fund for

04:25:57.280 --> 04:25:59.060
 the current year.

04:25:59.060 --> 04:26:06.820
 And so the average residential tax bill impact, I know we alluded to this earlier.

04:26:06.820 --> 04:26:11.380
 Here's the increases shown, including the utility impact.

04:26:11.380 --> 04:26:18.860
 So you can see the total on the bottom, $251 annual increase for tax bill and that 11% increase

04:26:18.860 --> 04:26:26.280
 in the wastewater.

04:26:26.280 --> 04:26:31.580
 And then we still have many more community engagement opportunities before the budget

04:26:31.580 --> 04:26:33.740
 is scheduled for adoption.

04:26:33.740 --> 04:26:35.920
 We have follow-up meetings scheduled in August.

04:26:35.920 --> 04:26:41.040
 We have a website specifically to get citizen feedback on our budget.

04:26:41.040 --> 04:26:45.860
 We also have a balancing act, which is a budget simulation tool where you can go and create

04:26:45.860 --> 04:26:52.380
 your own budget and give feedback based on what you want to fund or don't want to fund.

04:26:52.380 --> 04:26:56.100
 And then we have a public hearing on the tax rate and the budget scheduled for September

04:26:56.100 --> 04:26:57.100
 19th.

04:26:57.100 --> 04:26:59.940
 And this is just a quick snapshot of our balancing act.

04:26:59.940 --> 04:27:01.740
 This will go live this week.

04:27:01.740 --> 04:27:06.420
 And so the public has an opportunity to say whether or not they would fund the supplemental

04:27:06.420 --> 04:27:09.980
 packages as we've ranked them or reduce the tax rate.

04:27:09.980 --> 04:27:16.420
 And we can send this out once it goes live so council can have the exact website.

04:27:16.420 --> 04:27:20.380
 And then I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.

04:27:20.380 --> 04:27:21.380
 Okay.

04:27:21.380 --> 04:27:22.380
 Any additional questions from staff?

04:27:22.380 --> 04:27:25.380
 Mayor Pro Tem?

04:27:25.380 --> 04:27:26.380
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

04:27:26.380 --> 04:27:29.660
 I think something in the last year's budget, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm misremembering,

04:27:29.660 --> 04:27:34.860
 but in which case I'll just request it out of hand.

04:27:34.860 --> 04:27:39.580
 Do we have the sort of population growth versus FTEs?

04:27:39.580 --> 04:27:43.020
 I thought I remembered that from last year.

04:27:43.020 --> 04:27:48.860
 Because I think it's a question I ask all the time, you know, if we're growing at whatever

04:27:48.860 --> 04:27:56.540
 it is, 30 a day, then at some point, you trip over to another FTE to match the service load

04:27:56.540 --> 04:27:57.540
 of that.

04:27:57.540 --> 04:28:01.460
 Do you have a preference on general fund or all funds?

04:28:01.460 --> 04:28:08.380
 I mean, obviously general summary is as a base graph, but if we could have one related

04:28:08.380 --> 04:28:11.500
 to the various funds, that would be great.

04:28:11.500 --> 04:28:20.900
 Because I think it makes it really clear that by and large, most of these requests are growth.

04:28:20.900 --> 04:28:27.220
 And it's useful for me in determining, you know, when I feel comfortable supporting,

04:28:27.220 --> 04:28:34.100
 you know, if we've grown, we've grown and we need to, we're just taking base level versus

04:28:34.100 --> 04:28:35.660
 an actual supplement.

04:28:35.660 --> 04:28:40.940
 I actually really don't like, and I said this last year, I really don't like calling your

04:28:40.940 --> 04:28:43.700
 growth expansion supplements because they're not.

04:28:43.700 --> 04:28:44.700
 They're growth expansions.

04:28:44.700 --> 04:28:51.020
 And I keep trying to get us to break those out into, you know, what's growth versus what

04:28:51.020 --> 04:28:56.660
 is an actual new item that you've never seen before.

04:28:56.660 --> 04:28:58.380
 And those are different decision processes.

04:28:58.380 --> 04:29:01.260
 So if we could do something like that as we go forward in the budget process, I would

04:29:01.260 --> 04:29:03.060
 really appreciate it.

04:29:03.060 --> 04:29:06.100
 - Okay, any other, Council Member Meltzer?

04:29:06.100 --> 04:29:09.180
 - Just a comment in support.

04:29:09.180 --> 04:29:15.060
 A supplemental would be adding a capacity or an activity that you don't currently have.

04:29:15.060 --> 04:29:16.060
 Right?

04:29:16.060 --> 04:29:18.380
 I mean, that would be truly supplemental.

04:29:18.380 --> 04:29:22.940
 - Okay, any other questions?

04:29:22.940 --> 04:29:23.940
 Send none.

04:29:23.940 --> 04:29:24.940
 Okay.

04:29:24.940 --> 04:29:32.900
 Let's take, let staff kind of discuss before we, the close component and make sure we need

04:29:32.900 --> 04:29:34.500
 to do that.

04:29:34.500 --> 04:29:37.340
 So we'll give like a little quick 10 minute break.

04:29:37.340 --> 04:29:38.340
 So 10.

04:29:38.340 --> 04:29:39.340
 30.

04:29:39.340 --> 04:29:40.340
 Yeah.

04:29:40.340 --> 04:29:42.940
 So it's 30 now around numbers.

04:29:42.940 --> 04:29:43.940
 240.

04:29:43.940 --> 04:29:46.780
 We'll be back and take it back up.

04:29:46.780 --> 04:29:47.780
 Thanks.

04:29:47.780 --> 04:29:52.300
 Oh, and when we come back, well, is Billy still there?

04:29:52.300 --> 04:29:56.300
 Has anybody can check with, I mean, is he, can he put us back on really quick?

04:29:56.300 --> 04:29:58.980
 Is that, how does that work?

04:29:58.980 --> 04:30:03.500
 Brian, yeah, just give me one second.

04:30:03.500 --> 04:30:06.260
 Hey, if you, Matt, meet me at the front here.

04:30:06.260 --> 04:30:16.340
 So you can bring your plate.

04:30:16.340 --> 04:30:22.540
 So we'll wait until we get back on, but we have a, we have a, a gift for you for being

04:30:22.540 --> 04:30:23.540
 your first time.

04:30:23.540 --> 04:30:24.540
 We have a little element.

04:30:24.540 --> 04:30:27.540
 So you always remember your first presentation.

04:30:27.540 --> 04:30:29.180
 Oh, we are.

04:30:29.180 --> 04:30:30.180
 Okay.

04:30:30.180 --> 04:30:31.180
 Thanks.

04:30:31.180 --> 04:30:33.380
 So all those hot mics, yeah.

04:30:33.380 --> 04:30:34.380
 You got it.

04:30:34.380 --> 04:30:35.380
 Yeah.

04:30:35.380 --> 04:30:36.380
 No worries.

04:30:36.380 --> 04:30:37.380
 Okay.

04:30:37.380 --> 04:30:38.380
 So what we do is, uh, yeah.

04:30:38.380 --> 04:30:39.380
 First presentation.

04:30:39.380 --> 04:30:44.220
 So, uh, the city manager and council, uh, give you this elephant to kind of remember your

04:30:44.220 --> 04:30:46.460
 first time kind of presenting and welcome.

04:30:46.460 --> 04:30:48.940
 So where's where you come here from?

04:30:48.940 --> 04:30:51.060
 I've been with the city for three years, right?

04:30:51.060 --> 04:30:56.700
 And prior to that, I was with the Boy Scouts of America and, uh, came from private industry

04:30:56.700 --> 04:30:57.700
 before that.

04:30:57.700 --> 04:30:58.700
 Got it.

04:30:58.700 --> 04:30:59.700
 Okay.

04:30:59.700 --> 04:31:00.700
 Got it.

04:31:00.700 --> 04:31:01.700
 So we'll, thank you very much.

04:31:01.700 --> 04:31:02.700
 Appreciate your work and efforts and great job today.

04:31:02.700 --> 04:31:03.700
 And so I wanted to give you that.

04:31:03.700 --> 04:31:04.700
 All right.

04:31:04.700 --> 04:31:05.700
 Thank you very much.

04:31:05.700 --> 04:31:06.700
 Appreciate it.

04:31:06.700 --> 04:31:07.700
 Yeah.

04:31:07.700 --> 04:31:08.700
 Okay.

04:31:08.700 --> 04:31:17.460
 So at, uh, two 30, we'll be back at two 40.

04:31:17.460 --> 04:31:28.660
 Uh, the city council will now at two 43 PM convened and closed meeting to deliberate

04:31:28.660 --> 04:31:33.340
 the closed meeting items set forth on the agenda, which includes the following item

04:31:33.340 --> 04:31:40.500
 a ID two three one four five, let's see one five four five deliberations regarding certain

04:31:40.500 --> 04:31:45.060
 public power utilities, competitive matters on the Texas government code section five

04:31:45.060 --> 04:31:50.720
 five one dot zero eight six consultation with attorneys under Texas government code section

04:31:50.720 --> 04:31:56.300
 five five one dot zero seven one deliberations regarding real property under Texas government

04:31:56.300 --> 04:32:02.380
 and real property under government code section five five one dot zero seven two.