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 Good morning and welcome to this meeting of Dent City Council.

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 It is Saturday, August 5th, 9 a.m.

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 We do have a quorum, so I'll call the meeting to order just to go over the lay of the land.

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 We have two items and a closed session item looks like.

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 So the first is key focus area, council key focus areas.

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 Then we have the budget discussion.

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 And so I'm going to press for questions early on the budget thing.

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 We'll go through the strategic specific priorities, that sort of thing.

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 But we need to front load questions for specific department heads either immediately after

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 that because we're going to let that staff go.

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 So we're not going to keep them sitting in City Hall hoping or wondering or just in case

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 there's questions.

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 So formulate your questions over the next couple hours.

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 If you don't have them already, get them in before we break.

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 Those staff members that have to respond to that can then use that break to respond to

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 But then after that, we're going to let staff go enjoy their Saturday and get through the

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 rest of the budget presentation, city's manager staff will answer what they need to.

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 Otherwise, you'll get your answer after that.

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 But the goal is not to keep city staff and department heads waiting for their entire

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 And so you've been warned.

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 So get those in.

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 All right.

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 So first item, item A, ID 231341, receive report, hold discussion regarding city council

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 focus areas and specific priorities for FY 2023, 2024.

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 Good morning, mayor and council.

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 I'm Amy Kaslik.

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 I'm the city's chief strategic officer.

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 And I'm here this morning to provide you with an overview and update on the city's strategic

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 plan as well as council priorities.

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 We will then be seeking input on council priorities for fiscal year 2024.

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 So as part of today's overview, I want to do a bit of a refresher on strategic planning

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 for the benefit of our newer council members.

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 So council created the current focus areas a little over a year ago, it was in July of

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 last year.

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 These focus areas really do set the foundation for the city's strategic plan and solidifies

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 council's vision of how we best meet the needs of the community.

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 So our key focus areas are pursue organizational excellence and collaborative and respectful

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 leadership, enhance infrastructure and mobility, strengthen community and quality of life, foster

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 economic opportunity and affordability, support healthy and safe communities, and promote

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 sustainability and the environment.

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 Along with these key focus areas, there are 16 strategic objectives, which you see here

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 on the city's organizational strategy map.

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 Updates that were provided to council on October 11th of 2022, and then January 24th and March

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 7th of this year.

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 We also provide quarterly updates of council's priorities in the Friday report.

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 So to talk a little bit about the benefits of strategic planning, the first is that it

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 helps set the city's direction and priorities.

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 So it really helps us to define where we want to be tomorrow and the steps that we need

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 to take to get there.

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 Having a strategic plan helps create focus.

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 It focuses the organization on getting results and what we need to do to meet the demands

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 of today as well as the next few years.

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 Another benefit of strategic planning is it helps the entire organization align around

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 common goals and in doing so can also help to break down silos.

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 One of the other things that's been said is that employees who understand how they contribute

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 to the strategic plan and how they contribute to the success of an organization are far

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 more satisfied and far more engaged in the work that they do.

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 Another benefit of strategic planning is that it simplifies the decision-making process

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 so that as new ideas, new initiatives are brought forward and we're not sure whether

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 or not we should implement those new ideas, we can look at our strategic plan for guidance.

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 Strategic planning helps inform the budget, so it helps us prioritize resource allocations

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 and how we budget our funds to make sure that we are budgeting in ways that help us move

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 our goals forward.

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 Strategic planning improves an organization's self-awareness.

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 As part of any strategic planning process, there's a lot of research, a lot of discussion

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 that goes into that.

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 There's an environmental scan, a SWOT analysis.

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 There's input from the community.

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 One of the things that you heard last year were the results of the community survey as

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 an input into the conversations that you had around strategic planning.

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 Lastly, and really at its core, it's an important management tool.

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 It helps to create a roadmap and create accountability across the organization in achieving our goals.

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 So when we look at the strategic plan as a process, it's typically the role of counsel

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 to set the goals and the objectives, and in our case, we call those key focus areas.

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 Key focus areas really need to be basically the broad outcomes that we're looking to achieve,

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 and then once those have been set, we create the objectives that help move those forward.

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 Then it is typically city management's job to begin creating initiatives along with aligned

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 milestones to help us achieve those goals that counsel has set.

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 And then lastly, we need to continue to monitor and report on the results of our strategic

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 So looking at our planning model, the comprehensive plan, which is Denton 2040, is the document

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 that really needs to be informing our strategic plan.

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 I was sharing this graphic with Gary Packen yesterday, and he said, "Oh, so the comprehensive

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 plan is the mothership of planning," and I thought, "That's a really great way to put

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 that, right?

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 That's a great way to see that."

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 So that's basically a 20-plus year plan that, again, informs the strategic plan, which is

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 seen as a mid-range plan that is three to five years.

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 And then from there, strategic plan both drives budget and is moderated by budget.

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 And all of this together helps us to enable strategic management.

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 There's a whole little graphic at the bottom of other planning considerations, and we'll

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 So strategic management, that final piece of the puzzle to bring it all together, is

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 something that I've been working on since joining the organization 11 months ago today.

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 Yeah, 11 months ago today.

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 So in moving that forward, we worked to develop the strategy map that you saw earlier, and

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 then began identifying initiatives across the organization that support council's key

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 To date, we have 119 initiatives that are in support of moving those key focus areas

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 As part of that, we've created the dashboard to help track progress in achieving those

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 Our public facing dashboard was launched on March 7th of this year, and again, for the

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 benefit of our newer council members, I'm going to go ahead and just jump into the dashboard

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 real quick and do a quick overview of that.

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 So this is the city's strategic plan dashboard, built not only to enhance accountability,

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 but really to offer greater transparency to the community.

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 So you'll see in this basically any device you look at this on, by the way, it'll resize

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 I do like that feature.

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 It also is able through Google Translate to translate into 22 different languages.

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 So we start out with a brief description of the city of Denton of our strategic planning

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 process.

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 And then if you want to see any highlights from 2022, which is prior to this dashboard

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 being built, you can link to our 2022 highlights.

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 And then we go into each of the six key focus areas.

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 So what you see here is a progress bar that tells us the progress of that particular key

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 And then we have these status bars.

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 So green is on track, yellow is a minor disruption, which means something has happened that may

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 or may not impact the timely completion of an initiative.

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 There's red, which red means that there has been a disruption that absolutely will impact

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 timely completion of the project.

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 So we've got a few in the system that are set to begin at a future date.

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 which just means we have a status update that's due.

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 Before I dive into any one of these, just want to show you again that legend.

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 So we have one that highlights the American Rescue Plan Act.

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 There's the Economic Development Strategic Plan, a link to the city's open data portal,

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 as well as the Library Strategic Plan.

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 Those dashboards, particularly ARPA, ED, and the Library Strategic Plan all function pretty

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 much in the same way as what I'm showing you here.

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 So we're going to take a closer look at Strengthen Community and Quality of Life.

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 So when we look at this particular key focus area, we've included some metrics that have

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 We then see that we have two strategic objectives that are aligned with this particular key

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 focus area, and so we see the progress and status again for each of these strategic objectives.

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 And then again, we can take another dive deeper and we see all of the initiatives that are

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 aligned with and support this particular key focus area.

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 If we want to take one more look, we can click on a specific project and we can see the latest

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 Another good thing about this dashboard, let's say you want to know about a very specific

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 project and you're not quite sure where it is, but you know it exists.

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 Let's say you want to look at an item on City Hall.

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 First I have to spell, right?

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 So then if we want to know what the latest is on renovating City Hall West or exploring

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 a plan for a new City Hall, you can click on either one of those.

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 And again, you get the latest update related to that particular initiative.

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 I just, I have to say this and it's in public.

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 So we didn't have a chief strategy officer and I think several of you, particularly two

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 I know that really focus on data, well several of you do, knew that we were sorely missing

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 To align a budget with those initiatives is one of the most important things a city can

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 do and then also to be able to show not only our council, but the public, the progress

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 I just want to say a big thank you to Christine because she hired Amy, but also to Amy.

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 We stole her from Irving where she did a tremendous job there and I'm just, it just pleases me

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 because she's really in 11 months done an amazing job, but that's also with the support

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 of the department heads who've entered this information and really stayed on top of it.

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 So you know, for me, I own as good as the people who work with me and I'm very proud

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 to have these people that are doing such a great job.

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 So to continue our focus on our strategic plan where it is applicable, you'll now see

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 key focus areas referenced on agenda items to show where that alignment exists.

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 That report that you see in the middle, those are, that is a quarterly priority report.

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 You would have received one in the Friday report just a couple of weeks ago for this

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 And then the other thing that we're working on is creating data analytics dashboards for

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 every department in the organization.

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 So these dashboards are really helpful in telling our story, being better informed,

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 identifying opportunities, highlighting successes, and just in general, shining a light on performance

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 So these dashboards are the result of a series of workshops that each department participates

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 in that look at defining that overall purpose of the department, identifying key priority,

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 those core services, looking at inputs, outputs, outcomes, and efficiencies.

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 So we've published so far parks, marketing communications, and then solid waste and recycling.

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 It's taken a little bit longer than I'd hoped, but I also have been serving as interim finance

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 director, but we're getting quite a few of those now across the finish line.

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 of months and is doing a really great job on helping us to move those other departments

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 of the look and the feel of these dashboards.

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 So this is Parks and Recreation's dashboard, again we start out with that overall statement

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 about the department, make that a little bigger for everybody, we start out with an overall

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 description of the department and then we go into their core services.

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 So their first is provide recreational, educational, and wellness opportunities, give a brief description

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 of that, what that means, what the desired outcomes are for that core service, and then

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 So this first one is visitors at recreation centers.

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 So one of the things with this software, if we just want to look at, let's say we just

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 We see that in October of 2022, there was basically what at that point in time I would

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 call an anomaly, so we're able to put in comments to explain why that anomaly exists and what's

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 the voice of the customer, and that voice of the customer is helping to be a part of

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 driving performance.

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 So again, we've got targets built into the system where applicable.

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 Another thing that I like about this is that we're able to include some hyperlinks.

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 what that means, why is a 10-minute walk important, we're able to provide users of the dashboard

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 >> I'll hand it over to Councilman Meltzer.

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 >> Thank you.

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 And this is a question I always ask, Amy, so I'm just kind of catching up.

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 And I know right now that these dashboards are for your office in strategic planning

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 and finance and the department heads.

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 Can you update us when we're going to get Council love ability to play with dashboards

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 and then any estimates on ETAs when there's going to be a public-facing version?

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 And I know that solid waste and recycling wants to go ahead and get theirs out.

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 Parks has expressed interest.

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 of the budget document that in Irving we did a hyperlink in our budget document so that

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 the public has that access through those budget documents as well.

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 >> Mm-hmm.

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 >> Councilman Meltzer?

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 First, wow.

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 I mean, this is right on target for like best practices.

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 maybe medium on the monitoring, but the missing piece is sometimes alerting.

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 So is there an automated path when things are nearing or exceeding target that there's

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 an auto-escalation to the right parties for visibility?

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 >> That's a great question.

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 There is that capability in the system to kind of turn metrics to certain color if you're

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 kind of hitting different thresholds.

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 It's certainly something to look at.

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 It's not something that we've implemented so far.

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 put in a more formal process for performance review, whether that's part of CMO meetings

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 with directors or separate meetings where, you know, we at least have some members of

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 the executive team in those meetings and are reviewing that work.

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 That's really a standard practice in performance excellence is you have those types of reviews

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 around your performance data.

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 >> Yeah, you know, most of these aren't, like, time-sensitive like that, but just to underscore

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 the point, what you want to avoid is a situation where something's blowing up, and we look

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 at it and we go, huh, turns out everything was red, but nobody was looking at it.

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 >> Any other questions?

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 So now that you've had a kind of general overview of strategic planning and of the city's approach

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 to performance management, I want to take a closer look at each of the six key focus

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 areas and council priorities.

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 So attached to the agenda for today, there was also a report of the 119 initiatives aligned

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 with our key focus areas, sharing with you the status and the progress of each of those.

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 So you do have that to give you a bit more detail because 119 initiatives is not something

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 we probably want to line out and discuss every single one of those at today's meeting, but

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 I do want to cover the high points of each of the key focus areas.

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 So the first one is pursue organizational excellence, again, in collaborative and respectful

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 leadership.

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 So the overall progress for this particular key focus area, and as it relates to initiatives

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 that are currently in the system, we're at 51%.

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 Four of the 24 council priorities actually fall under this key focus area.

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 And I will say with the report that you have as well as this data, this is as of the updates

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 that were due July 15th.

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 So with the comp and classification study, as of July 28th, that is now complete.

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 So on that next update, it will then move to a status of complete.

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 Of the 30 initiatives that are aligned with this key focus area, six of those are complete,

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 and then five are substantially complete.

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 And again, we can move that class and comp one over to that complete portion of the presentation.

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 The initiatives in this particular category are really aimed at developing and retaining

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 talent and being the employer of choice.

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 The rollout of the new value statements also falls under this particular key focus area.

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 Any questions on this one?

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 >> Do you -- there are questions -- do you want to take them each?

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 I'll just -- everyone just be mindful, right?

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 Questions and answers.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> But Mayor Pro Tem.

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 >> Yeah, mine is short and generic.

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 >> I -- and it kind of relates to Counselor Meltzer's question.

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 For these ones where we've given them a status of track, upcoming, complete, disruption,

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 how -- or is that just a count?

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 What's the threshold for some of those?

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 I'm a little lost as to how we're following along the completion.

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 they're on track, whether or not there's been disruption.

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 If there's disruption, we do want them to include a reasoning behind that disruption

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 so that we understand that, you know, when we're looking at an update for the initiative,

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 what's going on.

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 But that is a designation that is assigned by the owner of the initiative.

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 >> And so it's not automatically updated, it's updated by the data owner?

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 >> Any other questions?

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 >> The next one is Enhanced Infrastructure and Mobility.

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 Overall, we are on track with this one with 63% progress.

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 There are 18 initiatives that fall under this particular key focus area and includes four

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 of Council's priorities.

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 They are improving capital project planning and communication, which is substantially complete,

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 renovating City Hall West, constructing public safety facilities, and then exploring a plan

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 for a new City Hall.

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 So when looking at the initiatives a little bit closer, there are three under this key

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 focus area that are now complete, 15 continue to be active initiatives, completed our developed

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 roadway funding strategy, review and update development criteria, manuals and specifications,

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 and develop a municipal utility district policy.

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 You'll also see three of your key focus areas listed under the substantially complete section

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 for this particular key focus area.

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 Next we look at foster economic opportunity and affordability.

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 There are 13 initiatives assigned to this particular key focus area and it houses seven

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 Council priorities.

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 Also listed here is the implementation of the economic development strategic plan that

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 was identified as a priority by Council last year.

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 Because it's kind of its own separate plan, we did give it a place to live in the dashboard

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 and you saw that earlier, but within the economic development strategic plan there are 121 separate

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 actions that that department is monitoring and reporting on as they move forward with

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 the economic development strategic plan.

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 The other -- another one on here I should note is the development of a public facility

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 corporation program.

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 That too was listed as a Council priority last year.

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 However, when it was brought forward on May 2nd of this year, that did -- was not chosen

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 to move forward at this time.

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 So completed initiatives include the implementation of a rental repair grant program -- again,

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 we say it's completed because the department did the work to get it to Council, but develop

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 a public facility corporation program just with the understanding that that particular

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 one is not moving forward.

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 I think one of the key accomplishments though under this particular key focus area is the

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 opening of the Loop 288 facility.

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 Again, there are four completed initiatives in this key focus area and then nine that

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 are active.

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 Next we have strengthen community and quality of life.

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 There are actually 32 initiatives that are assigned to this particular key focus area

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 including three Council priorities.

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 This includes the library's new strategic plan which is now complete.

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 You saw the dashboard of that.

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 Now it's a matter of implementing that strategic plan.

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 The story walk along Fred Moore -- Fred Moore walking path.

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 And then the expansion of the Hartley field mountain bike trail where we added nearly

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 a mile to that particular trail.

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 There are quite a few initiatives in this category that are substantially complete.

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 That includes the parks master plan creation and e-sports game room at the Denia recreation

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 center.

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 And then parks accreditation which we should hear more on that in October.

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 Next we have support healthy and safe communities.

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 It consists of ten initiatives and at this point progress is at 47% for this key focus

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 area.

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 The four Council priorities including conducting a citywide speed study which is now complete.

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 Continuing the fire department accreditation which is also complete.

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 Police department is pursuing reaccreditation and I believe that is a four-year process

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 in them achieving that reaccreditation.

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 And then lastly is enhance the police department's mental health division.

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 So in addition to the already completed Council priorities, DME has completed updating lighting

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 to LED.

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 This included upgrading over 9,000 lights.

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 And then technology services has completed an assessment of the CAD and police RMS which

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 is also part of the information technology strategic plan.

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 The last key focus area is promote sustainability and the environment and 16 aligned initiatives

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 as well as two Council priorities which are create a wildlife corridor map and expand

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 the EV fleet and infrastructure.

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 Key accomplishments is the city's tree line USA designation from the Arbor Day Foundation

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 which was achieved in February.

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 Also included in the list of completed initiatives is the planning of trees at dog parts and

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 the installation of LED dark sky compliant athletic field lighting.

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 area.

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 So in looking at the plan as a whole, approximately 64% of the initiatives within the city's strategic

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 plan have been identified as being on track, 16% have experienced some level of disruption

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 and then 19% are complete and then we've got one in there that's set to start at a future

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 date.

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 Overall, we are at 52% progress for the plan as a whole.

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 There are 23 completed initiatives but there are 96 remaining active initiatives and even

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 though we haven't officially done a call for new initiatives for next year, we've actually

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 already identified more than 30 initiatives coming forward from the departments for next

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 fiscal year.

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 These include the resident ambassador pilot program, phase two of ADA improvements, implementing

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 the roadway funding strategy, executing the FY 2023 bond program and then the development

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 of an airport master plan.

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 So earlier I gave you a glimpse of other plans that exist in the organization as part of

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 the overall planning process.

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 So when I first joined the organization last September, I set meetings with all the departments

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 just to really learn about their operations, their strengths, their opportunities, their

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 aspirations and one of the things that I asked for when meeting with the departments were

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 copies of any planning documents they had and at one point they were lined up across

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 the back of my desk but this isn't even all of what I found.

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 There is some crossover between all of these plans you see here, just a tiny bit of crossover

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 with the 119 initiatives that are being tracked in the strategic plan but at their lowest

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 level, so at the level at which departments would report on progress, status, results,

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 where they're at in terms of those initiatives, there are 616 initiatives, strategies, objectives

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 or actions, again that's the lowest level of planning.

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 Beyond that, in the parks master plan, not only are there 69 actions, there are 322 subactions,

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 many of which have their own set of milestones, yes, I know, I counted them.

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 That's how I felt too.

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 So there's a lot going on in the organization.

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 This doesn't even include the ADA action plan, a variety of master plans that are being worked

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 by the departments and I've shared this slide or a similar slide, this is the first time

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 I've actually put numbers to each of these plans but I've shared some of this in other

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 presentations and things that I've done, you know, just webinars and things like that.

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 And one of the things that I always say is that Denton is a very hard working organization,

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 very hard working and I think part of the proof of that is that not a single one of

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 these plans, not a single one is a plan that someone put together and stuck on a shelf

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 and never looked at again.

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 The departments are working these plans, they are putting these plans into action.

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 And that, if nothing else today displays the volume, the sheer volume of work being done

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 in this organization, I hope that this drives that point home.

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 It's a lot and it's all in action.

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 And then there's still more, right?

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 And then some, there's still more, this is not all of it, there's still more, right?

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 Very busy, very hard working organization, very dedicated to driving the plans that we

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 have forward.

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 So now that I've covered where we are with strategic planning, including council priorities,

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 all those other plans that I showed you and I promise you I'm trying to find the best

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 way to mesh those all together in a way that makes sense, we do want to now take the opportunity

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 to invite you to share your thoughts on the work being done and more importantly, I think

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 we want to hear what your priorities are for the organization as we move into the next

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 fiscal year.

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 Questions, comments?

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 Mayor Percival.

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 >> So I'm going to lead with a question.

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 We had a lot of them in priorities, you alluded to 600 and change projects and initiatives,

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 and we were at 52% completed for the 119.

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 >> For the 52% progress.

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 >> Progress, for the 100.

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 >> Progress.

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 >> And some of these are multi-year projects, projects without really a defined end in some

471
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,760
 cases.

472
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,120
 >> Only two.

473
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:42,000
 >> And so do we have a way of tracking the annualized year to year progress?

474
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000
 >> Yes.

475
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
 Yes, we do.

476
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000
 We do.

477
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,200
 And that is a function of the software.

478
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,440
 So as we move into future years.

479
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:55,180
 And I will say too, and I've seen it and I think it's going to take time and just really

480
00:35:55,180 --> 00:36:01,120
 for departments to acknowledge and understand that everything cannot happen in one year.

481
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,520
 So really just working with people to understand like this is multiple years, it's not just

482
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,240
 what can you accomplish in this one year, it's multiple years.

483
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:15,320
 I always say if you give me dates that start October 1 in September 30, let's look at it

484
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,320
 a little bit more.

485
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,880
 And that's just something that's going to take time.

486
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,160
 And I think when we close out this first year and departments go back and look at those

487
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,840
 kind of those schedules they set, Lisa's probably been through this with me before, yes, she

488
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,840
 knows.

489
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360
 And then we get to the point where like you know what, I do need to be a little bit more

490
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,320
 realistic about what we can accomplish because you can't do it all at once and you can't

491
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,000
 do it all in a year.

492
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
 You can't.

493
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,760
 >> No, I specifically asked that question because again it goes to Councilor Meltzer's

494
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:54,840
 question of how are we monitoring and if you throw it all in a big bucket it can be overwhelming.

495
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,840
 And then you get executive dysfunction because you're like, ah.

496
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,360
 >> Like I said I'm trying to like just bring it all together the best way possible.

497
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,080
 But that's where it's just having more and more conversations about what is a realistic

498
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,840
 timeline when we're looking at these different initiatives and setting realistic expectations.

499
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,080
 And that's just something that's going to take a little bit of time.

500
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,640
 But we do have those indicators that tell us where we're at and where we should be in terms

501
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
 of progress on different initiatives.

502
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,880
 >> And then I noticed in terms of the question about priorities, and I mentioned this the

503
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:33,360
 other day in the bond committee discussions with P&C or the Northeast area plans with

504
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
 P&C and then the bond as well.

505
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:45,920
 We seem to have a through line of property acquisition and property management in almost

506
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,920
 every project.

507
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,720
 I mean I'm sort of looking at all the previous priorities and you know expected upcoming

508
00:37:52,720 --> 00:38:02,680
 ones that are mine and maybe other counselors and it seems like that -- I'll just say one

509
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,240
 of my priorities is to really get in front of land acquisition, land management, land

510
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,240
 control.

511
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:14,320
 So I'll leave from there and then see the floor for other discussion.

512
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,640
 >> Any other questions, comments?

513
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,360
 >> I just want to understand, how do you want to work this next bit?

514
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,760
 Is this where we're teeing up our individual priorities or do you have a different way

515
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,760
 that they want to do?

516
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,760
 >> Yes.

517
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520
 No, I think if you have stuff that you want to put forward for them to consider, great,

518
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,320
 you heard kind of the list of things.

519
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,040
 And so if you want to put forward things, but then also understand and that gives staff

520
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,680
 time to again set whatever expectations they would put on those or if it's already covered

521
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,320
 in stuff that we've not been presented, it's an opportunity to tell you it's already on

522
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,800
 the list.

523
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:59,480
 So yes, it's your thoughts and then those will be reviewed and you know feedback will

524
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,800
 come on kind of where we are with that.

525
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,800
 >> Okay.

526
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,040
 I don't know if -- he's seated at the floor.

527
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360
 >> He's spoken three times so I'm going to try to move it around a little bit.

528
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,360
 So go right ahead.

529
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,360
 >> Well, okay.

530
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,920
 So some of these -- I mean, the notion of priorities suggests that not every action

531
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,920
 is the priority.

532
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,920
 Right?

533
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,360
 You've got, you know, hundreds of actions.

534
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,240
 So it's kind of the short list.

535
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,640
 And some are clearly on there.

536
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:36,960
 It would just be sort of underscoring, you know, this would be on my short list, progress

537
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,840
 on the affordable housing toolkit.

538
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,480
 And if it's not going to be a PFC, and I remain -- I mean, I wasn't here when you all went

539
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,480
 through that.

540
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,920
 I mean, if it's -- that could come back, but if it's not a PFC, maybe it's closer coordination

541
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:59,840
 with DHA and DAHC as part of our -- I forget which area had like relationships around the

542
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:05,360
 community so that we're maybe aligning better on kind of goals and vision.

543
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:11,360
 In the area of parks, I realize that some current members weren't here when council

544
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,760
 adopted the Parks Master Plan.

545
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,000
 So you may not be coming in with a view that there's a deficit, but the Parks Master Plan

546
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,760
 that was adopted by council called for acquisition of 113 acres a year for 16 years, which was

547
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:34,080
 heavily over-delivered last year, I acknowledge, but good to over-deliver in the early years

548
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,840
 because there may not be anything to acquire in years seven, eight, nine, ten through 16.

549
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,960
 So you know, I think whether it's through bond or some other way, you know, if you have

550
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,360
 some point of view on how much we can acquire in the course of working with developers,

551
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,840
 and then what's the deficit, and then how are we going to fund that?

552
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
 You know, we should have some point of view.

553
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,960
 I don't know that I specifically saw -- because you couldn't drill down into every single

554
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:07,400
 thing in 10 minutes or whatever, within economic development, I think there needs to be some

555
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:16,520
 urgency on downtown revitalization, particularly all the, you know, all the dark doorways around

556
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,800
 the square and in the square area, you know, where are the partnerships or ways we can

557
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,120
 facilitate, you know, not to let that great light blink out.

558
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,160
 So thank you for saying that, I meant to point out that we, at this point, determined that

559
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,920
 the parks -- sorry, downtown master plan is likely the next to be marked a priority.

560
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,920
 Yes.

561
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,920
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

562
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:43,080
 And that's a perfect place to put that thought, great.

563
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:49,960
 And kind of on that theme, to me, maybe not to everyone, I would like to see continuing

564
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:59,200
 efforts to kind of further empower neighborhoods and inclusion of neighborhoods in guiding

565
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,560
 debt and development.

566
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,760
 So where we have -- I already identified that there's a path needed for SAPs, you know,

567
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,200
 two years ago, I guess, we picked, you know, the ones -- the first three, but we need to

568
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,640
 pick what the next ones are, and, you know, whether -- I know you all are investigating

569
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,120
 whether -- how CBOs have worked elsewhere, whether that's a tool for us or not, we'll

570
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,340
 see, but, you know, I think that would come under that heading of investigating how best

571
00:42:25,340 --> 00:42:34,840
 to engage neighborhoods to kind of end up with, you know, dentin -- dentin-y development.

572
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:42,120
 Now, I'm going to get off in an area that I think is not exactly -- I think, believe

573
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,920
 it or not, in any of what we've seen so far, maybe.

574
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:58,320
 Our challenge in keeping up with hiring first responders has in part to do with the massive

575
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,440
 call volume and the growth -- it goes with population, but it also has to do with estimates

576
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,060
 I've heard, casually and formally, of 30 to 60 percent of the call volume being driven

577
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:18,280
 by mental health considerations, and there being a corresponding just void or close to

578
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:26,640
 a void in resources on mental health, which is beyond what probably one city can do, but

579
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,920
 I would -- just because of the sheer impact on budget, if nothing else, I would be interested

580
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:39,260
 in prioritizing intercity -- you know, an intercity approach to mental health and substance

581
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:45,560
 abuse treatment, you know, by coordinating with our counterparts in other cities, ideally

582
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,480
 with the county, but not waiting on the county.

583
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,040
 I've got a couple more here, Mayor.

584
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,640
 I hope I'm okay, steaming forward.

585
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,640
 Yeah.

586
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640
 Yeah.

587
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,640
 Thanks.

588
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:06,840
 Yeah, first I'll say, as in council previously, this clearly was not a priority of mine, but

589
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:14,000
 it's the whole cannabis issue, but I felt that we productively addressed it with actions

590
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,480
 that then police chief and the magistrate were able to take at that time, but the voters

591
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,320
 have clearly said they want something, and I think Councilmember Watts was blazingly

592
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:31,840
 accurate and helpful in our last deliberation saying, okay, you know, the voters were presented

593
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,440
 one proposition that was problematic and unvetted, but it had a worthy goal, and that, you know,

594
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,440
 that particularly helpful was the thought that we just got -- we got to get creative.

595
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,080
 So I'd say just to be responsive to, you know, what the voters overwhelmingly indicated an

596
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,040
 interest in, I would like us to put some attention to seeing what some of those creative approaches

597
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:58,120
 might be that aren't problematic, that don't, you know, put police in a pickle and violate

598
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,920
 state law or whatever, you know, the other concerns there may be, so some constructive

599
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:10,080
 approach that we can all get behind, including law enforcement.

600
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,240
 I'm almost through.

601
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:20,940
 I would like to revive the process that was going on, I guess, in 2022 or 2021 of seeing

602
00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:31,240
 if we can support or enable collaboration among groups that want to do a tiny home project.

603
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:37,600
 In that -- next topic -- in that, we are a, you know, very much a festival town.

604
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,240
 It's part of our kind of creative identity.

605
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,680
 It helps economic development.

606
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,680
 I think if you talk to people who try to do those festivals here, they tell you it's kind

607
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,220
 of a sequence of hurdles and I'd love to see if we can create a kind of more festival-in-a-box

608
00:45:52,220 --> 00:46:01,240
 approach to make it easier for people to do it and kind of enable rather than have the

609
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:02,760
 stance of restricting.

610
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:09,000
 So streamline event sponsorship, which I know is somewhere in there.

611
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,360
 Two more, then I'm done.

612
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:22,720
 When I looked at the slide about kind of partnerships across the community, it called to mind that

613
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:32,160
 in a volunteer organization I'm involved with, we were looking at themes -- let me do this

614
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,660
 more quickly.

615
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:38,120
 We don't seem to have much concrete in the way of partnerships with the colleges and

616
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,120
 universities.

617
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,120
 It seems like a gap.

618
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,120
 I don't even know what they should be.

619
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,120
 We do.

620
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,120
 Okay.

621
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,120
 Great.

622
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120
 Terrific.

623
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,120
 Terrific.

624
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,120
 I didn't see it on the slide.

625
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,120
 I'm like, wow, that's a gap.

626
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,120
 It is there.

627
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,120
 It's in --

628
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,120
 Okay.

629
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,120
 I believe it.

630
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,120
 Totally believe it.

631
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,400
 And just lastly, you know, ordinarily I'm very much interested in actionable policy

632
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,700
 that turns into real things.

633
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:06,080
 Very rarely do I want to do things that are sort of symbolic and just express values,

634
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:12,400
 but I think in the current environment, you know, it wouldn't hurt to have some expression.

635
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:21,800
 Maybe it's just a resolution, but to reaffirm our -- the value we put on diversity, equity,

636
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:28,240
 inclusion, it's a bit under threat in this state, but, you know, it's built into our

637
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:34,480
 values, I would argue, and I think some kind of, you know, affirmation of that to our diverse

638
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:42,520
 community I think would be appropriate and, you know, important enough to bubble up to

639
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,520
 the short list.

640
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,840
 That's all I got for now.

641
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,720
 All right.

642
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:53,440
 Councilman Mahalo.

643
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,920
 Thank you.

644
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:04,200
 My priorities, my first three priorities are streets, streets, and streets.

645
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:11,480
 I was pleased to have a meeting with the city manager earlier this week and the assistant

646
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:19,760
 city managers, and we discussed what I think is a reasonable, sustainable idea to keep

647
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:26,320
 our -- to build -- to get our streets up to snuff and to keep them there in the future.

648
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:33,420
 The implementing roadway funding, slide number 22, I appreciate that.

649
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:36,520
 That is clearly my priority.

650
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,800
 I'd also like to see a lot of emphasis placed on economic development.

651
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:49,080
 I think our police, fire, and emergency services is doing a fine job, but I always want to

652
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,800
 keep that as a very, very important focus.

653
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,800
 I appreciate it.

654
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,800
 Okay.

655
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,800
 Anyone else?

656
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,800
 Councilman Byrd.

657
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,800
 Good morning, everyone.

658
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:15,960
 I have written down one thing that is sticking with me, and that is the family-oriented -- family-oriented

659
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,800
 responsibility that we should have.

660
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:29,840
 We are very proud of our education system, and we're very proud of our nightlife, and

661
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:39,800
 we are proud of our trees, but somehow we're missing something in regards to our kids.

662
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,040
 I know that our children do a lot of things with the ISDs, but whenever school is out

663
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:52,720
 -- and I'm really focusing on maybe the middle school to high school kids that are out there

664
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:54,360
 in the summertime.

665
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:03,560
 So if we can find some kind of way to add that group into our growth pattern, then I

666
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,560
 would appreciate that.

667
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,300
 Then my other thing is, of course, DCTA and our travel.

668
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:16,720
 I think we're missing a -- there's a big middle piece that's missing there to make sure that

669
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:24,080
 everyone has an opportunity to travel throughout the city in the most -- in the easiest fashion

670
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,280
 as possible.

671
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,160
 If somebody is coming to our city council meetings and they're 90 years old and saying

672
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:37,400
 that they have no good way of getting across town or they're being left, that bothers me.

673
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,760
 So we want to make sure that we are connected with DCTA and put a little bit more pressure

674
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,280
 on them to give us what we need.

675
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:52,580
 And also downtown, downtown, not only economic development there, but downtown living and

676
00:50:52,580 --> 00:51:02,680
 downtown lifestyles should be on that track if we're doing that.

677
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,520
 Thank you for the revitalization of downtown.

678
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,040
 I was going to say that.

679
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:13,520
 And also small business, I know that we talk small business, but I think there's still

680
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:20,080
 a bit of red take there that's not allowing them to, you know, get up and get running

681
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,240
 and get started.

682
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:29,120
 And I think that if our city can be known as a group that will support small businesses

683
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,640
 and because small businesses are so unique, they come with a lot of different vibes, and

684
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,160
 we need to have places for everyone to appreciate.

685
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
 Downtown, I did say downtown living.

686
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:54,000
 So we also, I want to say something about a hotel boutique, you know, something about

687
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,000
 that.

688
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,280
 I think that may go into, that's for downtown, because we, all of our hotels are out on the

689
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,720
 outskirts.

690
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:05,920
 And then we're inviting people to come into our space and drink and be merry and have

691
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,920
 fun.

692
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,760
 And then we're expecting them to get back in their car and drive over to the hotels.

693
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,060
 And I just don't think that's right.

694
00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:14,560
 I think we need to close that gap on that.

695
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,560
 So hopefully, that'll be something as a priority for us to look at.

696
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520
 And those are my things there.

697
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,520
 Thank you.

698
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,520
 Okay, thank you.

699
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,520
 Anyone else?

700
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520
 Seeing, Councilmember McGee.

701
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:32,800
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor, I appreciate what you all have, have listed as priorities without

702
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,040
 rehashing a couple of those because obviously we know that there are some priorities in

703
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,560
 on all of our lists.

704
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,440
 Mine is a little more specific than Councilmember Hollins' thinking in the way of economic development

705
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:54,480
 with respect specifically with respect to incentives for our economic development partner.

706
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,000
 So Wayne can have more tools that he needs.

707
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,000
 Okay.

708
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,000
 Anyone up?

709
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,480
 Councilmember Watts.

710
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,400
 I think all my priorities could be surmised in the ones that have already been listed

711
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,400
 in the presentation.

712
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:19,680
 I mean, I don't know hundreds of them.

713
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:26,680
 And I just want to address the one about the Prop B ordinance that Councilmember Meltzer

714
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,680
 had mentioned.

715
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,900
 I think that from what I've heard, and I could be wrong, that what's happening at the practical

716
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:40,600
 level at the ground level on enforcement or when they get to a court proceeding or when

717
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:47,400
 they get to court processes that right now doesn't mean it's always perfect, but it's

718
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,720
 really exercising and trying to accomplish the goals that people, I think, the aspirations

719
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:53,720
 that they had.

720
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:58,280
 So I certainly continue, but I think in some ways that's already happening.

721
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:04,840
 And look, and as far as the parkland, 100 acres per year, we're going to see a presentation

722
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,980
 after this about money because everything we've asked for takes money.

723
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:13,840
 And so I guess what we're deciding is what do we want to spend our money on?

724
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,960
 Well, if that's what it comes down to, and I have to summarize it in two things.

725
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,120
 For me, it's economic development.

726
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,160
 We have very little economic development in this city right now of major jobs to come

727
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:33,680
 in and bring forward opportunities for people not just to survive, but to thrive.

728
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,080
 It's not happening.

729
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,320
 And that's not a slam on staff.

730
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,320
 That's not a slam on anybody.

731
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,020
 It's just saying somehow we're either not getting the attention or there's something

732
00:54:44,020 --> 00:54:47,040
 big clouds surrounding us, and then it's affordable housing.

733
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:53,040
 So when I hear these priorities and I hear what we all want, it eventually comes down

734
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,000
 to we can have all the aspirations that we want.

735
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,080
 Then it comes down to whoever's sitting in this seat pushing a button.

736
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,160
 And on affordable housing, we had an opportunity to do that and we didn't do it.

737
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,000
 And as far as working with the housing authority, we've tried to do that in the past and you

738
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
 were here.

739
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,380
 And one of the big controversies when you and I were serving together was an affordable

740
00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:17,360
 housing project because we couldn't do anything because we didn't have any leverage other

741
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,680
 than an entitlement that they were seeking.

742
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,800
 If they didn't weren't seeking entitlement, we couldn't do anything.

743
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,840
 So make sure that we're providing opportunity for people to make a good living so they can

744
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,280
 afford to live here.

745
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:37,400
 Because if we don't bring in economic development, this is all just a waste of time, quite frankly.

746
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,800
 And the reason I say that is this year we're going to see in the budget presentation a

747
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,340
 billion dollars in new growth.

748
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:49,960
 If I'm correct, if I read it correctly, a billion dollars and one of my questions I'm

749
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,680
 going to send, pursuant to the mayor's instructions, is what's that breakdown?

750
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:01,580
 That adds up to about 3.5 or something, three, four million dollars additional revenue.

751
00:56:01,580 --> 00:56:09,240
 So if we're doing things to stifle growth, we need to just know what that impact is.

752
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,480
 Because what is that?

753
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:18,880
 I think 40% of our new value, or I can't do the math that quickly, it's 2.5 is total,

754
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:27,480
 a million, a billion, it's about probably 40% is new growth.

755
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,680
 I'm hoping that we can continue to do something that provides new growth for good jobs that

756
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,840
 continue to come in to the city.

757
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,640
 So all the things I want, or I think there are priorities for the community, for people

758
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,640
 to actually thrive here, they're already up there.

759
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,620
 We got parkland we can buy, we got 10 minute walk plans, we got all these things.

760
00:56:47,620 --> 00:56:53,880
 But it boils down to do we have the revenue to meet the needs that we have as priorities?

761
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:59,400
 And that's going to be a decision that each individual council makes every year.

762
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,600
 So I appreciate, well, first of all, I can't imagine how much work went into this presentation.

763
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,200
 A tremendous amount of work.

764
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,160
 And I thank you for your effort.

765
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
 Because I think this helps us see it.

766
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,480
 And to see what's happening.

767
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,400
 I think sometimes people don't think we're doing anything.

768
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,840
 The staff's just, we're just fighting fires, we're trying to just make sure everything

769
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:25,460
 runs day to day, but no, they have a concerted, intentional, committed effort to bring about

770
00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:27,760
 the things that are important to this community.

771
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,320
 So these are great.

772
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,840
 When it comes down to voting, then we just need to make sure we're consistent with what

773
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,960
 we want in our plan.

774
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,400
 So I don't really have anything to add to this list.

775
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,120
 I think it's a very comprehensive and a very good list, an aspirational list to really

776
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:53,640
 provide the kind of living space in our community that people are really -- and I want to say

777
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,640
 something about small business.

778
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,600
 And this just came up a couple weeks ago.

779
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,280
 And here, I'll be through.

780
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,960
 This was in the TURS board meeting.

781
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,360
 Where a gentleman came to ask for an incentive to revitalize a building in the TURS area

782
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,360
 for the grant.

783
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,040
 Well, he expressed that he'd had one outside of the area that he couldn't get any help

784
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,120
 on because it was -- it was outside the TURS area.

785
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,120
 We can't do that.

786
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,720
 And I've said that all along.

787
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,800
 If we're -- I mean, if people have an opportunity to revitalize a small business building for

788
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,000
 their small business outside of some area we've designated as this is the only place

789
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,760
 we can do this, we've got to change that.

790
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,080
 Because number one, it's not fair.

791
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,800
 It's not equitable.

792
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:42,240
 And it can help us with the properties around our community that need some new life.

793
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:50,000
 And so I think if I had to have a priority, it would be to enlarge the -- what would we

794
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,000
 call it?

795
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,000
 >> The area.

796
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,480
 >> Well, I'm saying it's the whole city.

797
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,680
 I mean, you know, that if you got -- that you have an opportunity to put in a grant

798
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,960
 towards some funding source that would allow you to have the same kind of opportunity that

799
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,800
 we provide in the downtown TURS area, people, you know, what is it, downtown incentive grant

800
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,600
 or downtown something grant, you'd think I'd know that.

801
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:20,880
 The concept -- yeah, yeah, downtown reinvestment grant.

802
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,040
 I think we need to have a dent in reinvestment grant.

803
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,360
 So that would be the only thing.

804
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,200
 And again, it takes money.

805
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,240
 So that would be the only thing that I would have.

806
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,160
 >> Maybe it would be like a hotel term.

807
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,160
 They talk about compression.

808
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,160
 Right?

809
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,480
 So if you have a compression project in the city, ergo, you're saying you're going to

810
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:44,560
 create a wave if you put this here, it will create a ripple effect and compress the market

811
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,960
 or help the market or using music terms, maybe it's a sound wave or something.

812
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:54,200
 >> Yeah, I think we just need to -- because when he was describing his -- the old Davis

813
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,480
 bakery building is what he was in.

814
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,240
 I remember going there to get donuts when I was in high school.

815
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,240
 >> Those aren't healthy.

816
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,560
 >> Well, I'm surprised we didn't have any out there.

817
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,560
 I was disappointed.

818
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,560
 But I'm just kidding.

819
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,560
 No, I'm kidding.

820
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,560
 I'm kidding.

821
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:13,400
 So that was one of the examples like he had to do all that rehab on his own.

822
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,800
 And that just didn't seem equitable to me.

823
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,160
 And it's not that anybody is being -- it's not intentional.

824
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,680
 I think it's just an oversight.

825
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,240
 So that's what I'd put it there as a price.

826
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,240
 I'll be quiet.

827
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,240
 Mayor, I'm repeating myself.

828
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,240
 Thank you.

829
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,320
 >> Before I ask my question, I want to ask the mayor and the city manager procedurally

830
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,240
 and it goes along with what we see Amy doing up here on the board is do you -- and we did

831
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,680
 a little bit in the conversation.

832
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:44,580
 Do you want us repeating so you get a sense of support or do you want to distribute it

833
01:00:44,580 --> 01:00:50,680
 later and let us tell what we supported -- because, I mean, I don't want to be redundant and say

834
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,440
 the same things that other people are saying.

835
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,040
 >> So she's going to take all your feedback, get your items there.

836
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,040
 She's doing it right now.

837
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,320
 You can see how she's putting these together.

838
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,440
 She's eliminating any duplication.

839
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,720
 Then she's going to go around and ask so you can vote.

840
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,440
 So we don't have to do sticky notes because I know some of you hate the sticky notes.

841
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,440
 >> Thank you for that.

842
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,240
 >> I mean, we are like X on the sticky notes so that we can just go through them and as

843
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,680
 you do, you all need to be thinking because she's aligning them right now and then she'll

844
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,400
 go around and say, okay, we've got this one.

845
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,400
 What are your votes?

846
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,400
 This one.

847
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,400
 What are your votes?

848
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,960
 >> I appreciate that, city manager, and Mr. Mayor, I might add then I'll eliminate any

849
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,160
 duplicates that I had if I might add a couple because I only just said one in order to be

850
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,160
 brief.

851
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,280
 >> No, go ahead, right ahead, succinctly.

852
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,640
 >> In order to give you a tone, I know you like to go last to get your thoughts.

853
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,360
 I would like to offer you the opportunity to be in this mix first.

854
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:47,480
 >> No, because I'm going to power through mine and nothing that I've -- mine is only

855
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,440
 reactionary and new so there won't be any duplication for me.

856
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,080
 It's just my insight on what we've heard so that I can get that out of the way and then

857
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:01,480
 new stuff that I've reacted to based on just thoughts, listening to the discussion.

858
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,840
 >> I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor.

859
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,200
 Then I will add a couple things.

860
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,840
 One thing that's come up in numerous discussions over the last little bit is I think we need

861
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:17,280
 to -- it's already in our list but I think we need to raise the priority of some of the

862
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:27,040
 sustainability and economic development D.C. code changes, specifically things that -- electric

863
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:32,360
 vehicle ready, solar ready, some other things, you know, parking, some other things that

864
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,000
 will incentivize economic development in this town and also sustainable economic development.

865
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:44,320
 So I'd really like to work on code revisions and re-prioritize that up a little bit.

866
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:52,280
 Then I think another area that we need to focus on is -- that's come up in a number

867
01:02:52,280 --> 01:03:00,360
 of conversations is it's been -- you generally do land management revisions about every -- you

868
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,680
 know, starting every five years.

869
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,760
 It's been about five years since we did our tree code.

870
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:11,200
 So I'd like to re-prioritize our tree code to -- we haven't been talking about any revisions

871
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,040
 on that and it's generally -- we focus on doing that every five years so I'm going to

872
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,080
 put a pin in a 2024 tree code.

873
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:30,200
 And then two more -- no, that's not going to happen if I'm missing anything about it.

874
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:35,600
 And then one of the things I also know that's come up in the last few months across the

875
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:44,560
 department is for our city employees, whether they -- the extent and the amount, particularly

876
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:54,760
 for our public safety and employees of fire, police and animal services, whether the extent

877
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,200
 to which they are providing -- and also probably in the utilities as well -- the extent to

878
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:06,120
 which they're providing their own material, so I want to focus on sort of worker issues

879
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:12,360
 or you can argue that, you know, we don't need to do that but if there's equipment needs

880
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,440
 for our workers, they shouldn't be self-funding.

881
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,120
 We shouldn't have teachers buy pencils.

882
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,400
 We shouldn't have government employees buy their own materials.

883
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,680
 And then the other thing I would like to put a little pin in that hasn't already been said

884
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:32,840
 is, you know, work on -- in the light of changes to the PUCT and ERCOT, I'd like to work on

885
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:40,160
 our large-scale energy policy for the city in terms of the kinds of things that -- and

886
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,840
 the reason I specifically bring this up is not that we have a bad one, but we are about

887
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:52,000
 to release our CAAP and those are robust goals and that we approved, what, six months ago

888
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:58,880
 or so, and I think we need to make sure that our energy policies and our economic development

889
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,120
 are in line with those CAAP goals that we've already approved.

890
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,080
 So I'd like to add those into the mix for things to consider.

891
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,560
 And I'm sorry, what did you call those goals?

892
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:15,560
 CAAP, Climate Action and Adaptation Plan.

893
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,840
 Okay.

894
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,640
 Okay, anything else?

895
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,480
 Okay.

896
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,480
 Councilmember Maltzer.

897
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,640
 Yeah, actually just a question or maybe potentially a clarification for Councilmember Watts.

898
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:35,480
 When you talk about the sort of opening up the reinvestment idea, is what you're looking

899
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:43,120
 for something that would particularly target renovating or revitalizing older structures

900
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,600
 wherever they are, whether they're downtown.

901
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,760
 I mean, maybe that's a way to define it, if that's what you're after, because the example

902
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960
 you gave was that.

903
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:58,040
 Yeah, I mean, I think if we need to be that specific in the language, I think that's implied

904
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,560
 or specific in our downtown language that, you know, there are certain things you need

905
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,400
 to be doing or revitalizing.

906
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:10,080
 So I'm open, I'm just saying we need to find a program that allows people who are taking

907
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:19,120
 old structures and bringing them back to life with new uses and preserving them, find a

908
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:25,480
 way to extend the funding potential opportunities to those individuals.

909
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:36,960
 Okay, so I don't, this goes on the quality of life for me, but I would like to see a

910
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:44,040
 goal or a priority of, and I think it aligns with our health components as well, to have

911
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:50,280
 each city facility that has staff have a full kitchen, at least opportunity, right, we do

912
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:54,240
 it in the fire stations, we do it in police stations, we have it in development services.

913
01:06:54,240 --> 01:07:01,000
 So I think a goal to extend that beyond those buildings and into other buildings would be,

914
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,760
 and that's not to say it's specific, right, so for the new police station, it has that

915
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,160
 capability, it could be connected to the 9-1-1 thing, so it's just in that vicinity, in that

916
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:16,520
 facility somewhere, access to a full kitchen helps people prioritize their diets and that

917
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:22,720
 sort of thing to have access.

918
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:33,280
 Let's see, yep, and so my overarching thing is just, I think when you quantify things,

919
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,920
 that tells me a lot, right, when you say there's this many activities, this many things, that,

920
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,080
 because that's just what you're capturing, there's obviously things on the edges of that,

921
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:50,200
 and so for me, just my personal takeaway that I hope to continue to convey, and I appreciate

922
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:59,260
 these numbers because it helps me educate the city, is we have absolutely got to focus on

923
01:07:59,260 --> 01:08:08,760
 exactly what you outlined in your slides, the longer vision and objectives and create

924
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,760
 efficiencies for the city manager and staff to do the work, right, we've got to get out

925
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:21,000
 of the way and stop kind of yanking the steering wheel because big ships don't turn fast no

926
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,360
 matter the size of the iceberg, right, that's in one of the Disney songs, and it's true,

927
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,280
 right, I mean you can't do it, I forget, it's one of the newer movies, it's a great song,

928
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:38,040
 but I forget which one, yeah, I'll figure it out, but that to me, that's what's critical,

929
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:44,320
 that's the takeaway I get from this, so I'm going to be very intentional about that so

930
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,320
 that things can get done.

931
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:55,480
 The other, so for me, my overarching theme is education, and here's why, when you talk

932
01:08:55,480 --> 01:09:06,080
 about the conversations made about land banking, right, and my concern there is this council

933
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:15,840
 in 2023, 2024, 2025 beyond can decide to bank land, but if you don't activate that land

934
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:26,720
 and develop on it, council in 26, 27, 28 can sell it all and do everything that they counter

935
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,520
 to what you hope to save that land for, right, if you don't put something in place, if you

936
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:38,920
 don't activate it, just to hold it gives some future council the opportunity to sell it,

937
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:44,960
 and so I don't want to be in that business of helping you do, right, to a degree, you

938
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:50,680
 want to plan smartly, but you don't want to have the misgivings that some future council

939
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,480
 can't unroll everything you just did and we do it to ourselves on a regular basis, give

940
01:09:55,480 --> 01:10:00,880
 the PFC example, right, we said, hey, work this up, and then we voted it down, so that's

941
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:07,080
 the same council by and large, imagine a totally different council and what they're able to

942
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:12,600
 do, so I just want to be mindful, and so the education component comes in, because I want

943
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:21,040
 to have a liaison, my goal is to have a liaison for city management and for the legal department

944
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:28,920
 to function in the political world to some degree, right, because they do not, and that's

945
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:35,160
 a great thing, but they are affected because we have an election every year, so in that

946
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:40,280
 education component, it's someone that has a pulse on those things, that reads those

947
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:46,600
 things that kind of takes the city manager's message and informs it, takes the legal department's

948
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:53,040
 message, informs it, and vice versa, where they kind of have a peek into that world because

949
01:10:53,040 --> 01:11:00,680
 it affects this very process, because a new council person rolls in, has new ideas, and

950
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,680
 somehow they've got to plug in, well, then you've got to get relationship and they don't

951
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,560
 know who this person is, and so it's just a lot that goes on every year, and so until

952
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:15,560
 that's amended, maybe if the charter changes that, there's an election every year and it's

953
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,200
 a problem when you're talking long-term planning, and you have someone comes on and says, "I

954
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,280
 want to do this, and I ran on this, and I campaigned on this, and I want to do all these

955
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,160
 things," and then they get in here and then you say, "Hey, there's 619 things in front

956
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:35,400
 of you, but you're in queue, and please hold tight and listen to some soft music," right?

957
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:45,840
 You know, I campaigned actively in 2016 on quiet zones, and they're coming, it's that

958
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:46,840
 type thing, right?

959
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:52,400
 So just, and so to that end, I think it would be fantastic to have your office do a report

960
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:59,000
 every year in a February timeframe because that's before things heat up, and this is

961
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:04,200
 strictly political, not your world, but I'm just saying kind of a report of what's going

962
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,800
 on in informing the community, informing groups, informing those that want to run, "Hey, here's

963
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,120
 what's in the queue, here's what's happening, here's our priorities, here's the data that

964
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:19,720
 supports that," then hopefully that will by proxy guide those conversations and they will

965
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,760
 be, it'll be a seamless integration because there's an annual report that everyone knows

966
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,920
 about and everyone's informed on what's kind of key priorities and what's going on, and

967
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:35,080
 if you're not in line with that, you're saying maybe it's a subtle adjustment versus this

968
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,920
 wholesale change.

969
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:43,040
 So there's an edge account, and then I think that position, hopefully in the next 10, 20

970
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,840
 years, the City of Denton's grown to a level where a, whoever sits in this mayor seat won't

971
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:54,460
 be me, will have a kind of that position rose into the kind of like an executive assistant,

972
01:12:54,460 --> 01:12:58,380
 and then it's the same thing though, it's from the mayor to this assistant in connection

973
01:12:58,380 --> 01:13:00,720
 to the city, it's seamless.

974
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:09,200
 And so that's my vision for that education component for newly elected people.

975
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:16,480
 Then I think it's important because you talk about education again, but this in the context

976
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:21,160
 of streets, it's the highest priority we have, mobility.

977
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:27,240
 And what you have is, matter of fact, if you watch it and I forget when he said it, I listened

978
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,800
 to him, but I forget what meeting they all run together.

979
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:38,000
 But Trevor mentioned the 2019 bond where they had to slow down there how fast they were

980
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:43,900
 doing the streets because the city was experiencing construction fatigue.

981
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:50,460
 So it's an education component to say all these different pieces that have to happen

982
01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:51,960
 to complete a road.

983
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:59,340
 And so it's just kind of a priority on education on what goes into.

984
01:13:59,340 --> 01:14:06,760
 So it's utilities, it's Atmos, there's another project pending, it's a tech stop road, there's

985
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,760
 another project pending in a year and a half, we're not going to finish, we're not going

986
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,480
 to tear up the road twice.

987
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:17,080
 So that informs and helps people see this and kind of guides that, why is this not moving

988
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,080
 faster?

989
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,880
 Let me dig down into these data points and understand those things.

990
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:29,120
 So I think that from an education component and I think those steps go into everything

991
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:35,880
 when you're talking about a lot of major projects we have and kind of what are those components

992
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:44,560
 that move there, what are the material issues or it's advantageous to sell bonds at this

993
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:50,220
 time, just kind of some of those moving parts that go into that.

994
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:55,800
 And this is just an aside comment, right?

995
01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:00,800
 Because it's important to note and I don't see how we capture it in the priorities, but

996
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:08,400
 to move faster also means to move people out of there, potentially, if their house is there.

997
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,000
 So we're saying move the streets faster, like Bonnie Brady had a tough conversation because

998
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,640
 that means we needed to foreclose or not foreclose whatever the term is, eminent domain, someone's

999
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:23,320
 house, faster, we need the eminent domain, somebody's business, faster.

1000
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:32,200
 And so I think just, again, education component to say here's why this homeowner is 90 and

1001
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:38,880
 we're being delicate about this or this tax dot funding is timed so we have to move it.

1002
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:44,120
 So I think that just that education component into what we do would be helpful.

1003
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:49,640
 We talked about that.

1004
01:15:49,640 --> 01:16:01,640
 And then I think just akin to the distance to parks, I think there's a parallel across

1005
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:06,320
 the board when it comes to an opportunity to identify regional gaps.

1006
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,840
 We hear about food deserts, one, but like grocery stores, medical facilities, et cetera,

1007
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:12,840
 et cetera.

1008
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:18,040
 It's a priority to say here's a region of the city because that's where people are traveling

1009
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,760
 more within their region.

1010
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:25,000
 You don't see this, I'm going to take 45 minutes and drive across Denton anymore, right?

1011
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,640
 It used to be 10 minutes or five minutes.

1012
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,800
 I operate in this general area and don't leave it often.

1013
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,160
 What's missing in those areas?

1014
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,160
 So I don't know.

1015
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:41,560
 So a priority on identifying this area and we should have a grocery store every X amount

1016
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,760
 of miles because that's how people travel and so when you pull up a map, you can say

1017
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,160
 here's this region and it's missing these things and then to Councilmember Watts' point,

1018
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,320
 maybe you look at that region and you say, okay, someone's bringing this and we're going

1019
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,680
 to participate in that because that's the last component missing in this particular

1020
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,680
 region.

1021
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,560
 We're taking a regional approach to libraries.

1022
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:07,840
 We're just having to expand just due to growth our viewpoint of segments of the city and

1023
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:14,080
 I think that is missing is kind of a regional gap analysis and what are best practices for

1024
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:21,720
 that and then going back to the education component, I just would like to and the city

1025
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,000
 manager is already working on this so I just want to support what she's saying as far as

1026
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:33,320
 a communications department goal and what I'd like to see is more of a bringing more people

1027
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:41,200
 to the table having their voices heard early and often earlier in processes and that is

1028
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:48,200
 in place in its infrastructure kind of the e-comments on our agendas but I think an expansion

1029
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:53,720
 of that or just a priority of that outreach to the entirety of the consultant that we

1030
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:58,360
 talked about in the retreat talked about focusing on 151,000 people.

1031
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:05,840
 If we hear from 300 that's a fraction of the 151,000 let's see it as such.

1032
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:11,000
 Let's increase that number and we have to be purposeful about that and connect with

1033
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,000
 people.

1034
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,000
 Parks is good about that.

1035
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,200
 Every event you see parks with their dots and this sort of thing, hey, let us hear from

1036
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,160
 you and that's evident in the data you're able to capture because they're intentional

1037
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:27,040
 about that so let's be intentional about hearing from people on everyday issues that we deal

1038
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,340
 with and I think the bones are in place but I think it needs to be a higher priority to

1039
01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:44,680
 hear from people and what their priorities are and I think that is the bulk of what jumps

1040
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,680
 out of me.

1041
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:46,680
 That's a question.

1042
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,680
 Council Member McGee.

1043
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:55,280
 To touch on what you're saying Mr. Mayor, the regional approach is that different than

1044
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,640
 the small area plans?

1045
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:58,640
 To me it is yes.

1046
01:18:58,640 --> 01:18:59,640
 Is it larger?

1047
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,640
 It's smaller.

1048
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,640
 Smaller.

1049
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:07,720
 Yes, because you have people that live, like that northeast plan is huge, I mean it's a

1050
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,360
 bunch of acres that's not developed.

1051
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:18,060
 What I see is for example, what is that, Luke 28 and McKinney area around Ryan High School,

1052
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:22,200
 you have high school students that have the option to go across the street to Dollar General

1053
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:29,960
 and get something that will kill them soon that's very unhealthy versus focusing on putting

1054
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:38,880
 the grocery store on the corner of Luke 28 and McKinney that would allow them to have

1055
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,360
 at least access to better foods and you have that entire neighborhood going in out there

1056
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,880
 and so there's a lot of development around Ryan High and to the east so those houses

1057
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,560
 are coming in and so now those houses have to drive all the way to Kroger on the loop

1058
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,600
 and that causes traffic congestion, that sort of thing.

1059
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:03,240
 So what I'm seeing is it's almost like it's not a, it is truly a individual neighborhood

1060
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,680
 type or I say regional kind of that approach.

1061
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,360
 Southeast Denton goes where?

1062
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,960
 Southridge goes where?

1063
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,720
 North Lakes goes where?

1064
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,760
 You know, Sundown Ranch, where are they going?

1065
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:20,680
 You know, so it's these kind of neighborhoods or pockets of a larger plan and just like

1066
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,560
 parks we should have this much, you should be able to get to the grocery store in this

1067
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:24,560
 much time.

1068
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,560
 That's, I hope I understand.

1069
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,320
 You know, I know that staff has a list of the different, of the city broken down neighborhood

1070
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,320
 by neighborhood.

1071
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,520
 It might be helpful to go through that approach, neighborhood by neighborhood, what you're

1072
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:34,520
 talking about.

1073
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,520
 Yeah.

1074
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,520
 Yeah, no, I can see that.

1075
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,840
 I don't know how best to identify those things.

1076
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,920
 I just know, I'm certain there's studies out there on how far people travel traditionally

1077
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:49,080
 but it is, it's the eye-opening thing just to kind of give you the people to pull the

1078
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,080
 curtain back.

1079
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:56,740
 I was talking to a friend that used to work downtown and would go to a coffee shop downtown

1080
01:20:56,740 --> 01:21:02,240
 four days a week and then they moved out on the loop and hadn't been back since.

1081
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:07,360
 So it's a person that wants to go but just because it's out of their kind of normal path

1082
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,840
 just has not made it back.

1083
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,280
 And so I think that's, that's the travel patterns of people, especially when you're working

1084
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,280
 from home.

1085
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,100
 You're just, I'm not going in these same areas shopping the same ways.

1086
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:24,200
 And so we got to kind of adjust to that.

1087
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:35,300
 Any other questions, comments before turning back over Councilman Burke?

1088
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:44,480
 So while you were speaking it brought up to mind that I was thinking about an arts district

1089
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:53,200
 like different districts to do different things in where people are enticed to go to a museum

1090
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,560
 or to the farmers market.

1091
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:01,680
 And so what I'm recognizing is that we've kind of made our whole city a district in

1092
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,680
 itself.

1093
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:09,120
 There's a lot of things that are going on here, but it's not in a certain location.

1094
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:18,520
 For instance, if we have a museum, I think we had a little museum around the square,

1095
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:26,880
 and then there is another kind of activity that is in another section of town.

1096
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,480
 So I'm wondering if we can get to a point, I guess that'll come with growth, that we

1097
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:36,560
 can have these various districts music, you know, this is where we're going to find a

1098
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,560
 lot of music.

1099
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,040
 This is where we're going to find a lot of art.

1100
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:44,240
 This is where our farmers market is going to be.

1101
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,200
 What is the entertainment for the kids?

1102
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,160
 Do we have a skating rink?

1103
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:54,240
 Do we have somewhere, you know, where our kids could be entertained?

1104
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,880
 So those are the kind of things, and I guess I lean more towards the quality of life because

1105
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:03,640
 I'm a family-oriented individual that looks more to that side.

1106
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,840
 I'd like us to also put that in the mix.

1107
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:07,840
 Okay.

1108
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,840
 Anyone else?

1109
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:09,840
 Okay.

1110
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,120
 Turn it back over to you.

1111
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,080
 Can I have five minutes?

1112
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,080
 Sure.

1113
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,080
 Thank you.

1114
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,080
 Yeah.

1115
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,080
 Well, and let's do that.

1116
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,080
 Yes.

1117
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,080
 Can we?

1118
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,080
 Yeah.

1119
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,080
 Thank you.

1120
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,080
 So we'll take, let's be back at 10.30.

1121
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,080
 Is that enough time?

1122
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,080
 That's good.

1123
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,080
 That's good.

1124
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,080
 Okay.

1125
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,080
 Yeah.

1126
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,080
 Thank you, sir.

1127
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,080
 We'll be back at 10.30.

1128
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,080
 Be back until then.

1129
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,080
 Thank you.

1130
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,080
 All right.

1131
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,560
 Welcome back to this meeting of Denton City Council.

1132
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:43,440
 We've had that break to give some time to process through the information provided,

1133
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:46,480
 and now we'll get an overview.

1134
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:50,920
 We're not scheduled to take a, or posted to take a vote.

1135
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:56,600
 So we're going to just give general insight or make sure everything's captured, and staff

1136
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,320
 will come back to us.

1137
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:04,960
 But the exercise now is to kind of react to what's captured, fine tune what's captured.

1138
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,600
 And I do want to call back to, if you're looking at your presentation, slide five on the strategic

1139
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,160
 planning role.

1140
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,240
 So our focus is the focus areas and objectives.

1141
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:21,400
 Then the city manager takes the initiatives, milestones, and comes back with those sort

1142
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,120
 of things with what they'll do.

1143
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,680
 So again, focus areas, objectives, make sure everything's captured.

1144
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,280
 If it's not, let's make sure that's captured.

1145
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:34,280
 That's kind of, so I'll give you, turn it over to you, you do your summary over you,

1146
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,280
 and then we'll give you feedback.

1147
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,280
 Okay.

1148
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:42,080
 So took a break just to kind of start coordinating these, and then identifying ones where work

1149
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,400
 was already underway and addressing some of these issues.

1150
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:52,080
 So we have one category that is public safety that clearly aligns with healthy and safe communities

1151
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,280
 as a key focus area.

1152
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,320
 There is some significant work being done in the police department around their mental

1153
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,320
 health division.

1154
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:04,320
 We, in a follow-up, we'll circle back and make sure you have all the information about

1155
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:10,040
 that work being done and where they're going next with that.

1156
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:16,720
 Looking at housing, as we move the affordable housing toolkit forward, that is one of those

1157
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,240
 strategic plans that we've identified and how we track and report on that.

1158
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:26,480
 So bringing back some information on that one as well, and that goes into fostering

1159
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:32,440
 economic opportunity and affordability, and sorry, I'm going to move around a lot on this

1160
01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:33,440
 one.

1161
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:37,840
 Then we've got downtown, so we currently have the downtown master plan.

1162
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:43,280
 We are focusing on that second component, which is downtown economic development, living

1163
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,760
 and lifestyle, so we'll take a closer look at that one.

1164
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:52,640
 And then our downtown incentive grants, these are all things that are a piece of the plans

1165
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,180
 that we are currently moving forward.

1166
01:25:56,180 --> 01:25:59,640
 That economic development strategic plan, which is fairly expansive, again, with those

1167
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:05,800
 121 tracked initiatives that fall under that specific plan.

1168
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:14,040
 So we'll bring you back information on incentives that are included in that plan and the work

1169
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:19,000
 being done with that ED strategic plan.

1170
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,920
 Then kind of this area here is a little bit of mix of everything, but a lot of that falls

1171
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:29,600
 into, quite a few of these fall into organizational excellence in terms of what the city is doing

1172
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:36,960
 with its DEI initiatives, how we are focusing on our workforce, and the things that we are

1173
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:43,040
 doing to be that employer of choice as a city.

1174
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:49,320
 I feel like with what we are moving towards with marketing and communication, I feel like

1175
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,880
 we're going to hear more and more about that voice of the customer and about how we are

1176
01:26:52,880 --> 01:27:01,640
 engaging our residents in our community earlier and in a more proactive way.

1177
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:06,880
 Danny Shaw was telling me about the work that they are doing in the GIS mapping that can

1178
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,800
 help us with that identification of those regional gaps and how the work she's doing

1179
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:18,500
 is going to help with that priority that council has identified.

1180
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:25,360
 And then quite a lot going on in the area of environment and sustainability.

1181
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:32,600
 The EV solar and parking, that is actually one of the initiatives that we have currently

1182
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,720
 marked in the strategic plan.

1183
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,960
 So we're going to come back with a follow up with where and how this currently fits

1184
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:44,880
 in and then some of those future plans are and then what considerations we have for any

1185
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:49,760
 remaining items and then identifying those priorities for the next year.

1186
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:50,760
 Okay.

1187
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:51,760
 Questions?

1188
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:52,760
 Comments?

1189
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,760
 Councilman Meltzer?

1190
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,240
 My first point, I think I spoke too long and wasn't clear enough.

1191
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,240
 Okay.

1192
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,600
 It's the checked one on public safety?

1193
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,600
 Yes.

1194
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,680
 I'm very aware of the mental health division.

1195
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:14,640
 The point is the nugget, like in a little square, would be intercity approach to mental

1196
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,300
 health and substance abuse resources.

1197
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:25,000
 If it's 30 to 60% of calls, there may be, I don't know the exact number, but something

1198
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:31,600
 like 10 beds, places to bring people and the need might be more like 100, which is beyond

1199
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,840
 what a city can do.

1200
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,480
 That's why the nugget is intercity approach.

1201
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:42,400
 And yes, it will ultimately address our ability to keep up with public safety hiring because

1202
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:47,240
 if you're putting 30 to 60% of your resources on something that makes up half your budget,

1203
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,400
 you know, to something because you're not addressing it, it's a problem.

1204
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,120
 Thank you for that point of clarification.

1205
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,880
 Were there any other items that you wanted to add some clarification?

1206
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,440
 Amy, I just want to make sure council can give their, I mean, I know we didn't post

1207
01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:06,400
 it to just take votes, but I do think we need to know from council sort of, okay, this one

1208
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,740
 and this one and this one or whatever.

1209
01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:13,720
 So we, because otherwise I think we, what I don't want is to take every one of these

1210
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,040
 and have staff try to report out on this.

1211
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,720
 We need to know from council more of a consensus so that we're not just coming back and someone's

1212
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,440
 like, well, I wasn't really interested in that.

1213
01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:32,120
 Well then, I would be interested to hear from someone on staff how to accomplish that because

1214
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:33,580
 that conversation never ends.

1215
01:29:33,580 --> 01:29:40,520
 If we start that on each thing that someone touched about, we will be here for a very

1216
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:41,520
 long time.

1217
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,720
 I guess what I'm saying is as we go through them, Amy's putting a check mark by things

1218
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:49,160
 that we are already doing and maybe we just need to give you a better update.

1219
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,720
 Number one, two, there's quite a few here.

1220
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,640
 Is this the whole list or is there more up or down?

1221
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,640
 This is it.

1222
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,640
 No, this is it.

1223
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:06,200
 I guess if Mayor, you just say, okay, public safety, and I can't read what's there.

1224
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:15,860
 Well, my question is, if these are initiatives, correct, that are listed here, that falls

1225
01:30:15,860 --> 01:30:17,840
 on your side of the ledger.

1226
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:23,960
 Our side of the ledger are objectives and focus areas and so she overviewed those focus

1227
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:30,280
 areas and objectives in there, the actionable things, kind of that initiative side is where

1228
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:42,760
 we hand off and so to go and I take your point, I just don't know if, I see you, I just don't

1229
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,760
 know if this is the...

1230
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,160
 I guess I'll just use Prop B as an example.

1231
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,160
 What do I do with that?

1232
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,200
 Because I don't know that there's an agreement here on this board, this body.

1233
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:59,840
 I don't think there is either, there hadn't been a...

1234
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:07,720
 One council member spoke on it, another one spoke on it, no one else spoke on it, and

1235
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:08,720
 you've spoke on it.

1236
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,200
 You said, we're doing everything we can because we're doing everything we can because it's

1237
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,520
 the right thing to do.

1238
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,200
 Either people are gonna accept you at your word or they're not, but that doesn't mean

1239
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,480
 you continue to say the same thing.

1240
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:29,760
 I think that's my, I think that's that point where it never ends if we...

1241
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,280
 And I'm trying to...

1242
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,320
 No, I appreciate what you're trying to do, I do.

1243
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:42,960
 Sure up that we object this focus area, larger council driven things and leave the initiatives

1244
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,920
 for you to report back, that sort of thing.

1245
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:50,840
 So Mayor Pro Tem.

1246
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:56,240
 Thanks, Mr. Mayor.

1247
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:03,120
 I think two questions I have for you and for City Manager, and that is, it seems like there's

1248
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,560
 two different things.

1249
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:15,320
 There's adding priorities versus reprioritization, an emphasis that may need, that this particular

1250
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:21,640
 makeup of council may want to emphasize certain elements more than others in the way they

1251
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:22,800
 were in the past.

1252
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,320
 So I think those are two different...

1253
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:33,620
 For the ones that you've been doing already and that can be organized in already, where

1254
01:32:33,620 --> 01:32:38,840
 is the consensus of council in terms of the priority that we would love to see you focus

1255
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:39,840
 on?

1256
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:47,640
 And in addition, I take your point about there are new items on this list.

1257
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:53,320
 And I think that we established at the beginning that we didn't want people to reiterate what

1258
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,360
 other people had said.

1259
01:32:55,360 --> 01:33:00,160
 So I don't know that we can use the counts of the people that spoke as an estimation

1260
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:07,400
 of emphasis because we purposely limited ourselves on what we were saying so that it wouldn't

1261
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,400
 be redundant.

1262
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,960
 So if you could help me through those conundrums, I would appreciate it.

1263
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:17,360
 Well, if you're specifically talking about Prop B, we've talked about that for over,

1264
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,360
 I don't know the math, but a year or two, right?

1265
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:25,440
 So if you tell them, if that specifically, if you're saying that we hadn't been heard

1266
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,760
 on that, I disagree.

1267
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:28,760
 If it's...

1268
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,760
 I meant generically, sir.

1269
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:30,760
 Okay, got it.

1270
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,720
 Then I don't know that there's...

1271
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:40,040
 These are initiatives, and that's where I'm trying to not drive us down into that component.

1272
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:48,880
 And then the other thing that's a struggle for me is if we're going to, at this point,

1273
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:55,920
 say, re-prioritize, what about the 119 other initiatives that we didn't talk about that

1274
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:56,920
 are already there?

1275
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,920
 Where do you go?

1276
01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:06,440
 And then how do we, and this is for the entire body I'm saying, every year you go back and

1277
01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:07,440
 you...

1278
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:12,000
 So there's 619 things that we didn't talk about, is that right, 616 things we didn't

1279
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,560
 talk about, strategies we didn't talk about.

1280
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:20,080
 There's 119 initiatives that were touched on, then there's an overview provided.

1281
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:26,320
 And then as a matter of practice, every year this council is going to revisit thousands

1282
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:31,160
 of initiatives, and I just don't know that that's...

1283
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:36,600
 And what does that put it if staff worked on it for a year, and then a year it changes,

1284
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,920
 this makeup changes, and we say we revisit that.

1285
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:39,920
 So I'm just...

1286
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:46,360
 I'm asking for insight on how that's not, to me, sustainable, nor a wise use of resources

1287
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,920
 to turn the boat every year.

1288
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:55,160
 I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor, it's just that that is sort of the nature of the political

1289
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,040
 beast when people elect new politicians.

1290
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:03,320
 They've said either the makeup of the city has changed, the makeup of the politicians

1291
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,480
 have changed, they've elected priorities, people who have expressed certain priorities

1292
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:11,880
 and vision, and those people get to set the new rules.

1293
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:19,400
 And I know that's unfortunate and ugly and hard in a bureaucracy, I myself am staff in

1294
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,400
 a bureaucracy for the state of Texas.

1295
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:28,920
 But it is what it is, I don't think we take left turns all the time, but you staff needs

1296
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,920
 to understand that.

1297
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,480
 So let me ask you that, how do you then prioritize...

1298
01:35:35,480 --> 01:35:41,280
 So I got more votes than you did, so do I have more say than you?

1299
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,040
 We have a one seventh council, that's how this works.

1300
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,240
 So, but I'm just asking you, in your example...

1301
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,240
 We reach consensus.

1302
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:48,240
 I'm just...

1303
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,240
 We're just having a conversation.

1304
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:54,960
 So in that, if we go into that political world, and we do those things that way, do you see

1305
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,880
 how that can be...

1306
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:04,320
 I can then say, well, the majority of the city of Denton asked me to serve in this capacity

1307
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:09,640
 and a fraction of the city, a quarter of the city asked you to serve in that capacity,

1308
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,680
 ergo, I have a larger voice than you?

1309
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,680
 No, that's normalized through this process.

1310
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:21,480
 And so I take your point that there are elections and there are results, and that's going to

1311
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:23,960
 happen every year until that changes.

1312
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:29,120
 What I am saying though is, and that's exactly what my point is, and that we have to separate

1313
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:36,200
 this process from, you should represent 151,000 people, I should represent 151,000 people

1314
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:42,400
 in everything we do here, and on top of that, we have 2000 employees that we don't want

1315
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:48,120
 to have them work on because half of these things can't be accomplished in one year.

1316
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:53,840
 And so if you just work towards something for a year and then something changes and

1317
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,600
 you say, "Don't work on that," then you'll never get anything done because I've been

1318
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:05,960
 trying to get quiet zones for a number of years and everyone's on board and everyone

1319
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,240
 agrees and we still don't have them.

1320
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,080
 So it's just not realistic in my mind.

1321
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:16,840
 Now, if others want to do it that way, then that's okay.

1322
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:24,080
 Then again, I am one voice, but I'm just saying what you've just outlined is not steeped in

1323
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,080
 reality.

1324
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:31,600
 I understand it's not the way a business operates because governments aren't business.

1325
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:32,760
 That just isn't how it works.

1326
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:33,760
 Okay.

1327
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:34,760
 I need to hear from other people.

1328
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,880
 I mean, if that's the consensus, we'll move on.

1329
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:37,880
 We're not going to beat this.

1330
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:38,880
 We're not going to beat this.

1331
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:45,000
 And I don't know what that means for staff, but we will hash it out.

1332
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,320
 You look like you have something to say.

1333
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,320
 Yeah.

1334
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,320
 Well, then Council Member Melton.

1335
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:49,320
 Okay.

1336
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:50,320
 Thank you.

1337
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:51,320
 Yeah.

1338
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:52,320
 I don't think this has to be that complicated.

1339
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:58,520
 For sure, we've been shown there is a massive amount of stuff that's already in the works.

1340
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:05,040
 And if council members already had a desire to take something off the list, I mean, they

1341
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:10,200
 could have said so, or they could still, I think more likely from the pruning point of

1342
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,160
 view, if we're hearing from -- I would be perfectly open to hearing in a future session

1343
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,680
 from staff, like here's a raft of stuff we just don't think we can realistically accomplish

1344
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,120
 while doing everything else and bring that for consideration.

1345
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:29,560
 But today is about us talking about what we want to be priorities on the list.

1346
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:30,560
 That's the whole point of priorities.

1347
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,400
 Some things are higher than others, and these are things that aren't addressed, and that

1348
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:41,720
 for whatever reason, it's urgency or importance or new voices that haven't been heard, whatever.

1349
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,000
 We get to have input on what should be priorities.

1350
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,880
 And as far as how many people you represent, well, that's actually all laid out in the

1351
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,360
 charter, you know, that we each get one vote.

1352
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:58,640
 One thing we might add to the list, I'd be very interested in hearing whether this body

1353
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:04,680
 feels that there ought to be a charter review committee if you don't think we're sort of

1354
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,040
 set up equitably, if it ought to be a 6-1 council or whatever.

1355
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:13,440
 I'm open to the idea that I think there are enough things that I've seen bottling around

1356
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:19,280
 from staff, from the community that maybe there ought to be a charter review to vet

1357
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:20,280
 some of that.

1358
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:28,600
 But on the stuff before us now, what I would suggest is we go one by one, show of hands,

1359
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,040
 the first slice is very easy.

1360
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,800
 If there aren't at least four people interested, it's not on the list.

1361
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,400
 Now, if there are at least four people on every single thing, it's probably still too

1362
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:40,400
 long of a list.

1363
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,480
 We could talk about how to call it further, like, you know, maybe everybody gets to say

1364
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:48,280
 what their top three are, and you go with the ones that have the most -- that are on

1365
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,760
 the top three list for everyone.

1366
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:55,760
 But I think a first cut would be simply, are there four -- are there at least four for

1367
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:56,760
 each item?

1368
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,720
 Right, I know you don't want to do red dots or stickies, but it amounts to the same thing.

1369
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,360
 But it truly does.

1370
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,680
 And I take your point, but here's the problem.

1371
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,480
 It all started with, we're not posted to take a vote.

1372
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:08,560
 You can say, take a vote.

1373
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,080
 You can say, raise your hands.

1374
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,760
 You can say, wink twice.

1375
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:13,760
 It's direction.

1376
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:14,760
 We do it all the time, Mayor.

1377
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:15,760
 I mean, you know that.

1378
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,080
 Well, I'm just -- I mean, I'm talking to the City Attorney, so I'll have him say it.

1379
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,080
 Maybe it'll sound different.

1380
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,080
 Go ahead.

1381
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:27,040
 We're just letting the Mayor know we're not posted for direction, which historically has

1382
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,080
 meant for us, at least in this working session, we're not posted for direction.

1383
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:35,840
 So we're posted for discussion and receive the report.

1384
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:43,040
 Wait, so -- but I don't -- there's an overarching -- so I take your point, Council Member Meldlund,

1385
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:47,880
 and those are all good points, but what the -- what you didn't -- what I do need to hear

1386
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:54,480
 from the body is, because I am in direct opposition of what Mayor Pro Tem is just proposed, is

1387
01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:58,920
 that every year we revisit every priority based on election.

1388
01:40:58,920 --> 01:40:59,920
 That's what he laid out.

1389
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:00,920
 Am I wrong?

1390
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:01,920
 That is what --

1391
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:02,920
 Okay.

1392
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:07,520
 I'm saying that every year new priorities are introduced, and we have to figure out

1393
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:08,520
 how those are integrated.

1394
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,240
 But then, yes, how do you -- how do you then integrate those to an existing --

1395
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:18,360
 It is an ongoing conundrum, and that's why every year we've done stickies or direction

1396
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:25,600
 or -- we've come up with a mechanism to give staff a clue of things to, you know, instead

1397
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:30,060
 of a one-year project, this is going to be two, or maybe it falls off the list.

1398
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:31,060
 So --

1399
01:41:31,060 --> 01:41:35,200
 Or, you know, this is -- this one is -- you know, we -- that is a juggling act that goes

1400
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:36,200
 on all the time.

1401
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:37,200
 But if it's --

1402
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:41,440
 It is why one of the things that might be beneficial, say, in a charter revision is

1403
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:47,800
 three-year terms or something to where it's -- the things are less flexible.

1404
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:53,240
 But if it's -- if it's a two-year project, and you're saying it's revisited every year,

1405
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,320
 how do you reconcile that in your mind?

1406
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:03,160
 I think we -- it is incumbent on us -- I take your point -- is incumbent on us to look at

1407
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:09,880
 the resources that have been spent and the time that has been spent and say, in our individual

1408
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:15,560
 priorities, when we are providing consensus to council, do those still match?

1409
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,440
 Are we still in alignment with where we've done?

1410
01:42:18,440 --> 01:42:22,800
 And you can't discount -- you can't just constantly add and discount.

1411
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:27,960
 But it is essentially a pruning mechanism, as Councillor Meltzer said.

1412
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:32,840
 And if we no longer -- I mean, I'm just going to pick on quiet zones since you mentioned

1413
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:33,840
 it.

1414
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,400
 If there's no longer a consensus from the current policy that we need to be working

1415
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,040
 on quiet zones, then they can fall by the wayside.

1416
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:41,880
 And I don't think that's actually where it is.

1417
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,080
 But I'm just giving that as an example.

1418
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:45,080
 Okay.

1419
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,280
 Councillor McBurke.

1420
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:54,480
 What I'm thinking is that since we have all of these different subject matters that are

1421
01:42:54,480 --> 01:43:00,680
 laid out for us right now, if we can come to some kind of consensus as to what -- you

1422
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:06,120
 know, public safety is at first, is housing second, is land, what are we -- instead of

1423
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:15,920
 going through each and every one of these boxes to debate over, why don't we just take

1424
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:22,040
 each one of these different ones and put those in order first?

1425
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,720
 For instance, of course, I'm a quality of life individual.

1426
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:33,380
 I'm going to ask that our housing, you know, and then let's talk about public safety, then

1427
01:43:33,380 --> 01:43:35,800
 economic strategic plan.

1428
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:41,580
 Why don't we look at it on a large scale like that first and start prioritizing there?

1429
01:43:41,580 --> 01:43:44,280
 Point of order.

1430
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:45,680
 Yes.

1431
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,720
 We need some direction on the leality of what we're talking about.

1432
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:56,380
 If this is not posted for discussion and we've given our direction as far as what we want

1433
01:43:56,380 --> 01:43:59,680
 on the list, we've just -- we each had an opportunity to say something.

1434
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:04,200
 But if this is not posted for direction, whether it should have or should not have been, it

1435
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:11,280
 doesn't really even matter, then I think we're really wading in some waters right now that

1436
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:12,280
 are not good.

1437
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,680
 We have a -- we have the rule of law and a process, and if we need to bring this back,

1438
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,920
 we can bring it back with direction, but otherwise, if we start doing all these informal votes

1439
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,000
 and all these kinds of things, I just feel real uncomfortable with that.

1440
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,000
 Rightfully so.

1441
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,600
 Especially since we've known that the city attorney has told us this is where we are,

1442
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:30,600
 so --

1443
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:31,600
 Rightfully so.

1444
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:32,600
 No, and I didn't suggest that.

1445
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,560
 No, no, I know you did.

1446
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,480
 So here's what it reads, and you all have it in front of you.

1447
01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:44,280
 Receive report, hold discussion regarding City Council key focus areas and specific priorities.

1448
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:51,260
 That's what it -- so the discussion of key focus areas, priorities were good.

1449
01:44:51,260 --> 01:44:57,240
 We just can't -- there's not direction requested.

1450
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:09,440
 And so by discussion, there is inevitably direction, but to have a straw vote or some

1451
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:19,480
 sort of tallying is not what we're -- and then I just candidly have a problem with us

1452
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:26,000
 getting into the initiatives versus -- and that's key focus areas, objectives.

1453
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:34,080
 And so I think Amy's done a good job of tying things to these key focus areas, and basically

1454
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:39,240
 I don't see a bucket of anything that's missing.

1455
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:45,840
 All the -- I'm looking for, is there a square in there that you think deserves its own bucket?

1456
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:52,760
 And let's inform that, but if all the little buckets -- I mean, all the squares fit into

1457
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:59,320
 the prescribed overarching buckets, then we're in good shape, I believe, and staff can come

1458
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,920
 back and report on those things.

1459
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:01,920
 Ms. City Manager?

1460
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,960
 I have a suggestion that maybe will work.

1461
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:08,040
 If you see the check marks there, those check marks are things that we're currently working

1462
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:09,040
 on.

1463
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,040
 Am I right, Amy?

1464
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,040
 That's correct.

1465
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,760
 So if -- we are working on DEI values.

1466
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:17,040
 We have a staff member that's working on that, training, the whole nine yards.

1467
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:22,880
 We have the process we're going through right now with TWU, UNT, and NCTC.

1468
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:27,040
 As a matter of fact, I have a meet with Brent next week, and some things that are really

1469
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,380
 exciting that we're working on.

1470
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:30,400
 We have a downtown master plan that's coming forward.

1471
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,080
 They'll be coming to you.

1472
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:36,320
 We've been working with Wayne on economic opportunities and incentives that you all

1473
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,340
 can address if you want to put more money into the budget.

1474
01:46:39,340 --> 01:46:42,800
 We are working on our affordable housing kit and some of the others.

1475
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:49,080
 So if you will allow us then to give you an update on all those things, I mean, if you

1476
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:54,120
 ask Gary today, he'll tell you where his priorities are on parkland acquisition.

1477
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,760
 He can tell you he's got it.

1478
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:58,400
 Tony's working on solar.

1479
01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,400
 It's a constant battle.

1480
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,360
 We're working on that with solar.

1481
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:06,560
 We've worked with Scott McDonald and facilities on solar and parking.

1482
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,280
 Tree code may be something you all may want to have as something extra.

1483
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:11,760
 Streets roadway funding.

1484
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,000
 We've made a suggestion that will come up in the budget.

1485
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,000
 Festivals.

1486
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,000
 We have a form.

1487
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,760
 If we can make that better or come back with something, I guess what I'm saying is we can

1488
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,080
 come back with something to counsel on all the check marks of things we're doing.

1489
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:30,480
 Then if there are other things here, which I see there are, then those are the things

1490
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:36,220
 that -- I mean, with DCTA, I talk to Paul Christina every week.

1491
01:47:36,220 --> 01:47:39,240
 But if there's other things we need to do, to be honest with you, you have a representative

1492
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,120
 called Allison McGuire that really needs to represent the city, and that's a discussion

1493
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,280
 you need to have with Allison.

1494
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,200
 So there are some things here that I think we can come back and give you an update on

1495
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:49,260
 where we are.

1496
01:47:49,260 --> 01:47:54,400
 So that narrows that list down to a very, very small amount of what would be helpful

1497
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,080
 for me to know.

1498
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,880
 >> All right.

1499
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:03,160
 Anyone else before we go back to the usual suspects?

1500
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:11,000
 >> Can we just take off the -- I'm trying to talk to you about it.

1501
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,760
 >> Can we just take off the ones that are checkmarked and let us see what we have left?

1502
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:16,760
 >> No.

1503
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,720
 I think that's her working document.

1504
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,800
 >> Is that impossible or irresponsible to do?

1505
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,800
 >> Yeah.

1506
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:23,800
 >> Okay.

1507
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,080
 Well, I mean, you know, give us a better -- yeah, just pull the other ones out that we --

1508
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,080
 >> Separate.

1509
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,080
 >> Yeah.

1510
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:30,080
 >> Yeah.

1511
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,560
 I mean, we need to see what we have and what we don't have.

1512
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:38,380
 >> Well, I just don't know that -- I don't know that it's fair, and staff can correct

1513
01:48:38,380 --> 01:48:39,380
 me if I'm wrong.

1514
01:48:39,380 --> 01:48:43,160
 It's -- do you not need time to work on it to get it right?

1515
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,720
 >> Well, all things with checkmarks, honestly, we're already working on.

1516
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:47,720
 >> Okay.

1517
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:48,720
 >> And we just need to give you an update.

1518
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:49,720
 I'm concerned.

1519
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,840
 I want to know more about the other ones so I know kind of where we're headed because

1520
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:53,840
 those are the ones.

1521
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:54,840
 >> Okay.

1522
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:55,840
 >> Gary can shoot you a list.

1523
01:48:55,840 --> 01:49:16,160
 >> Well, let's just zoom in on -- yeah, just zoom in on it, but --

1524
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,920
 Mayor Pro Tem is in queue, so Mayor Pro Tem, I think you got rid of one that didn't have

1525
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:21,920
 a check there.

1526
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:27,880
 This is -- I mean, it's just -- go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem, you have the floor.

1527
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:32,800
 >> I was just going to concur with the city manager that let -- give her an opportunity

1528
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:40,880
 to give us a report or a presentation of, you know, the ones where we are and what we

1529
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,360
 think we're doing, and are we matching your priorities cool?

1530
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:50,360
 And then if we're not posted to make -- to give additional direction, then I think Councilor

1531
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,420
 Watts makes an excellent point.

1532
01:49:52,420 --> 01:49:57,960
 We probably shouldn't be trying to give direction, so that's -- I'll keep it simple.

1533
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:02,000
 >> Well, but these are -- if -- correct me again if I'm wrong, what you've identified

1534
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,520
 here are initiatives.

1535
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:04,520
 These aren't priorities.

1536
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:05,520
 >> Correct.

1537
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:06,520
 That's right.

1538
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:11,600
 >> And we don't give -- if we're following the outline that we were provided on slide

1539
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:17,760
 five, we don't -- management-led is initiatives.

1540
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:24,120
 So the objectives are public safety, is that right in this example?

1541
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:25,120
 Or no?

1542
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,520
 >> You mean here, at this level?

1543
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:32,380
 >> No, even in where you were, just -- where is the -- so in public -- so in public safety,

1544
01:50:32,380 --> 01:50:35,280
 what is the -- if that's the initiative, what's the objective?

1545
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:42,280
 >> Well, this is -- this ties with our key focus area of safe and healthy community.

1546
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:49,080
 And then from there, it would tie to enhance -- or build public safety capacity.

1547
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:50,880
 >> Okay.

1548
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:56,800
 So I'm just trying to -- I'm trying to stay within the confines you provided us, right?

1549
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,380
 And so I need your help on that.

1550
01:50:58,380 --> 01:51:02,400
 So you talked about council-driven focus areas and objectives.

1551
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:03,400
 >> Correct.

1552
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:09,560
 >> So what we have here in the squares are initiatives, which is management-led, based

1553
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,240
 on the slide you provided, is that right?

1554
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:13,240
 >> Yes.

1555
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,360
 But we do also consider your priorities in that.

1556
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:17,360
 >> Okay.

1557
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,360
 Well, all right.

1558
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:23,400
 Then let's just -- we'll just go through the -- is there -- so the question before us is

1559
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,920
 to discuss what doesn't have a checkmark in front of us.

1560
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:33,000
 That's -- that's -- >> I mean, I don't want to pull a point of

1561
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,960
 order, but I really do think Council Watch's point is really germane.

1562
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:39,840
 Can we give direction or not?

1563
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,120
 >> I'm not asking for direction.

1564
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:42,120
 I said discussion.

1565
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:43,120
 >> Okay.

1566
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,080
 >> And we are posted to discuss.

1567
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,080
 Yes.

1568
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,320
 Again, I have never asked for direction.

1569
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:49,320
 That question was asked.

1570
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:50,320
 I said no.

1571
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:58,960
 It was proposed a different way than the -- so I just -- I'm trying to -- we are -- we can't

1572
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,440
 -- we have to discuss it.

1573
01:52:00,440 --> 01:52:04,480
 That's -- I think that's what we've been doing the whole time until we hit this hiccup.

1574
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:09,840
 >> Can someone provide direction on then what the limits are, because if we are -- we sort

1575
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:15,560
 of did discussion on said what it was and why, so I -- I don't want to get us in trouble

1576
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:16,560
 or anything.

1577
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,720
 I -- >> Sure.

1578
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,980
 Let's just -- let's just be -- is there anything that -- let's do this.

1579
01:52:21,980 --> 01:52:27,240
 Is there -- if there's anything that someone has an idea that's not captured here, if no

1580
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,360
 -- if yes, then let's put that forward.

1581
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,200
 If not, we'll wrap up.

1582
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,360
 So anything missing from this list?

1583
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,040
 The other checkmarks are on the other page.

1584
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,520
 This is just stuff that's not already in process.

1585
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,860
 Is there anything missing?

1586
01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:46,560
 Seeing none, oh, Councilmember Meltzer?

1587
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,360
 >> Yeah, two things missing.

1588
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:56,160
 There it's there, and I'm not saying it was charter review.

1589
01:52:56,160 --> 01:53:02,600
 And the other thing missing is just the piece -- process piece to say, can we agree?

1590
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:09,040
 They will put giving direction after our discussion today on the agenda for the 15th, just so

1591
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:13,880
 we can do that piece, see if you've got, you know, four more or, you know, however you

1592
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:18,080
 want to give direction on these items at a future meeting, and the next one's August

1593
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:19,080
 15th.

1594
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:20,080
 >> Yeah.

1595
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:24,040
 So this isn't where -- she's not going to type in the latter part.

1596
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:27,640
 The former part, is that captured, the charter review?

1597
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,640
 >> No, not yet.

1598
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:31,640
 >> Okay.

1599
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:32,640
 All right.

1600
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:33,640
 Okay.

1601
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:34,640
 Anything else?

1602
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:35,640
 Okay.

1603
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,640
 Great.

1604
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:37,640
 Thank you.

1605
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:42,920
 That concludes item A. Let's take a quick break.

1606
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:48,520
 We'll be back, 1130.

1607
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:49,520
 Good morning.

1608
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:50,520
 It's 1131.

1609
01:53:50,520 --> 01:54:00,240
 We're back, and we're set for our next item B, but I -- I know staff has a presentation

1610
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:07,520
 -- let me see, trying to see how best -- is it best to do the presentation?

1611
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:15,280
 And then gather questions, then is that -- or do you have milestones along the way to ask

1612
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:16,280
 questions per department?

1613
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,280
 >> I have milestones, yes.

1614
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:18,280
 >> Okay.

1615
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:19,280
 Great.

1616
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:20,280
 Let's do that.

1617
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:21,280
 And so it is -- let me get back to that.

1618
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:27,880
 Item B, which is ID 23272, receive report, hold discussion and give staff direction regarding

1619
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:35,880
 the FY 2023-24 city manager's proposed budget capital improvements program and five-year

1620
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,840
 financial forecast.

1621
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:43,880
 >> Good morning, Mayor, City Council, Cassie Ogden, Assistant City Manager, here to present

1622
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:47,880
 the city manager's proposed budget for FY24.

1623
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,780
 So just a few things we're going to go over today.

1624
01:54:50,780 --> 01:54:55,400
 So just budget overview, we'll go over general fund, all of the enterprise funds, we'll have

1625
01:54:55,400 --> 01:55:01,640
 an update of the capital improvement program, the debt tax rate, internal service funds,

1626
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:06,160
 revenue funds, we'll give you an update of the ARPA funds, and then go over next steps

1627
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,400
 for the budget.

1628
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:14,180
 Just a reminder, our budget really is an all-year effort.

1629
01:55:14,180 --> 01:55:18,800
 So we kicked off the CIP budget efforts in December.

1630
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:23,020
 We started reviewing all of the projects in January.

1631
01:55:23,020 --> 01:55:28,880
 We have reviewed the projects since January, February, March, and then April we started

1632
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:34,400
 presenting our budget to city manager's office.

1633
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:40,280
 And then June we went through and presented the utility budgets to PUB and to City Council.

1634
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,680
 And then we are here in August for the budget workshop.

1635
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:49,640
 And September 26 we're scheduled or City Council is scheduled to adopt the CIP and the operating

1636
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:56,360
 budget along with the tax rate and the utility rates.

1637
01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:03,920
 So we wanted to provide some economic indicators and some growth that we are seeing as we continue

1638
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,960
 to see strong growth in the city.

1639
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,080
 Just a reminder about the population estimates.

1640
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:17,540
 We are projecting to be a little over 300,000 people in population by the year 2040.

1641
01:56:17,540 --> 01:56:22,440
 So really we're trying to focus on building the future, planning for that growth, and

1642
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:27,360
 making sure that we have adequate infrastructure and resources to meet the demand.

1643
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,600
 You can see on the right the building permits.

1644
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:36,200
 We continue to see strong building permit being issued for commercial and residential

1645
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,640
 throughout the city.

1646
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:44,480
 So some of the basis for the general fund operating budget, you can see some of our

1647
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,040
 assumptions in the salary adjustments.

1648
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:55,200
 We just completed the compensation study so that will be fully implemented in 2024 budget.

1649
01:56:55,200 --> 01:57:02,400
 So employees just received their first increase in their checks on July 28th, but those costs

1650
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:09,440
 are included in the 2024 budget along with a 2% average merit increase for employees.

1651
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:15,160
 And then we've programmed in 3% in the future years, so 25 through 27.

1652
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:20,400
 The employer contribution, so with the city's portion of health insurance is increasing

1653
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:23,400
 about 10% from the previous year.

1654
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:30,440
 And then our employee contribution are only based on voluntary benefits, so those things

1655
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,920
 that the employees could elect, those are seeing some increases.

1656
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:42,040
 And then our TMRS rate increased from 18.15% to 18.94%, but that's not effective until

1657
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,560
 January so it's not the full fiscal year.

1658
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:53,160
 Fire pension contribution remains at 18.5% with their fund being pretty healthy.

1659
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:57,320
 It's estimated to be 100% funded within nine years.

1660
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:01,360
 And then the other item that's not on the slide but I wanted to mention is we are going

1661
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:05,120
 through meet and confer negotiations with fire and so we do have a placeholder item

1662
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:10,600
 in the budget for those contract negotiations.

1663
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:16,960
 So with that, the assumptions for general fund, the assessed values we received, the

1664
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:25,200
 certified values on July 24th, we are seeing a 15% increase from the previous year.

1665
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:34,280
 You'll see in the general fund forecast that we're assuming the M&O tax rate to decrease

1666
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:39,600
 in the future years as the AVs continue to increase or we're projecting to continue to

1667
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:46,200
 increase and then for property taxes we're assuming a 99.5% collection rate based on

1668
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,360
 the current year collection rate.

1669
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:53,840
 The city manager's proposed budget includes a total proposed tax rate of 56 cents which

1670
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,800
 is the same as the current fiscal year.

1671
01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:02,640
 Sales tax, the current year we're seeing our sales tax come in right at our current budget

1672
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:12,540
 so we're only proposing a 1.5% forecast of increase in sales tax over next year.

1673
01:59:12,540 --> 01:59:18,040
 And then in the future years we're estimating 3% increase.

1674
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:25,520
 The 6% ROI is maintained for the electric fund in FY24 and then we are proposing to

1675
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:32,880
 increase the amount of franchise fees that goes to street fund by $600,000 for a total

1676
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:39,920
 of $15.7 million to street improvement fund.

1677
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:46,680
 So I wanted to show you the tax rate kind of options that council could decide to go

1678
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:47,680
 with.

1679
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:53,440
 The proposed tax rate obviously is the current year's tax rate so FY23, no change from current

1680
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,320
 year to next year is what we're proposing.

1681
01:59:56,320 --> 02:00:01,760
 That allows us to fund about $4.9 million in supplementals and you'll see those in

1682
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,800
 a future slide how those are broken out.

1683
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:13,480
 If council chooses to reduce the tax rate by half a cent, so 55 cents for the tax rate,

1684
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:19,440
 the general fund could fund about $2.9 million in supplementals and if we went all the way

1685
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:26,000
 to the no new revenue rate, which I'll show you that it's about 49 cents, we would have

1686
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:31,900
 a deficit of $5.7 million in the general fund operating budget.

1687
02:00:31,900 --> 02:00:36,200
 And then on the other side of the screen, the half cent increase, we would be able to

1688
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:48,860
 fund or have a net income of $1.2 above the $4.9 of supplementals that is already proposed.

1689
02:00:48,860 --> 02:00:51,680
 And then wanted to show you the sales tax revenue.

1690
02:00:51,680 --> 02:01:00,020
 You can see in our budget, we're keeping our sales tax estimate for next year relatively

1691
02:01:00,020 --> 02:01:05,640
 flat based on the current sales tax collection, but we have seen strong sales tax collections

1692
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:10,460
 over the last couple of years.

1693
02:01:10,460 --> 02:01:16,720
 And then the appraised values, so you can see the percent increase overall, 15% increase

1694
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,740
 from 2022.

1695
02:01:19,740 --> 02:01:24,380
 You can see the $1 billion in new value, which is substantial.

1696
02:01:24,380 --> 02:01:33,320
 It's large increase from last year and then $1.5 billion change in existing properties.

1697
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:38,660
 As of the July 24th, when we received the certified values, there were still 1.3% under

1698
02:01:38,660 --> 02:01:42,640
 review by the appraisal district.

1699
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:49,320
 And then excluding the frozen values, it was about 8.8% increase.

1700
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:56,080
 The average residential home value did increase about $37,000.

1701
02:01:56,080 --> 02:02:02,520
 So went from $307,283 to $344,731.

1702
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:11,920
 So substantial increase from last year on the average residential home value.

1703
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:18,360
 As you know, the appraisal growth, we forecast very conservatively for appraisal growth.

1704
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:25,080
 Generally about 5% is what we forecast every year, just because we never know how the conditions

1705
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:26,400
 in the marketplace.

1706
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:32,420
 So you can see over the last couple of years, we've had a really high growth trend.

1707
02:02:32,420 --> 02:02:37,240
 However, several years before that, we actually had negative.

1708
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:40,800
 So that's one of the reasons we are very conservative in our growth forecast.

1709
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:45,320
 If it comes in higher than what we budgeted, obviously, then we have a surplus.

1710
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:51,420
 But generally, we have a good indicator as the appraisal district starts sending us the

1711
02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:57,480
 reports in late May from when we received certified values in July.

1712
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:04,440
 But over the 10 years, we've had about 9% is the average growth in appraised assessed

1713
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,560
 value.

1714
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:12,640
 So I know most of you know these definitions, but just wanted to give you a reminder.

1715
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:18,960
 So when we talk about the tax rate, the no new revenue rate is the calculated rate that

1716
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:24,000
 it would bring in about the same amount of revenue on the existing properties from both

1717
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:25,000
 years.

1718
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:30,640
 So same properties on the roll last year that are on this year, that's how much we would

1719
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,860
 need to collect the same amount of revenue.

1720
02:03:33,860 --> 02:03:40,020
 The voter approval rate is the maximum allowed by law without having going to the voters

1721
02:03:40,020 --> 02:03:43,200
 to approve a tax rate increase.

1722
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,000
 There are two parts to our tax rate.

1723
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:48,520
 So the M&O rate is maintenance and operations.

1724
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,760
 And that's really the portion that funds our general fund operations.

1725
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:59,560
 So all those police fire services, parks, our administration functions, HR, all of those

1726
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:03,040
 things are funded through just the M&O portion of the tax rate.

1727
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:07,040
 The INS tax portion is just the debt service.

1728
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:13,340
 So all of the debt that's sold on the general government side, we calculate what we need

1729
02:04:13,340 --> 02:04:21,080
 to pay that debt service every year, and that's the portion of the INS rate.

1730
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:28,360
 So the proposed tax rate, this is how it breaks down to 35 and a half cents going to fund

1731
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:35,840
 general fund operations, and the debt service is 20.5 cents going -- needed to pay just

1732
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,140
 the debt service for the general fund.

1733
02:04:38,140 --> 02:04:44,840
 So the general fund portion of the debt, not including the utilities.

1734
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:48,840
 The no new revenue rate this year is calculated at 49 cents.

1735
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,720
 And then the voter approval rate is 63 cents.

1736
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:57,120
 So we're falling right in the middle there at the proposed tax rate of 56 cents.

1737
02:04:57,120 --> 02:05:02,600
 And that's per $100 valuation.

1738
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:07,320
 So I wanted to provide a comparison of how we compare to some other surrounding cities

1739
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,560
 in the Metroplex.

1740
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:12,200
 And you can see this is total tax rate.

1741
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:17,280
 So that M&O rate plus our INS rate or debt service rate is our total tax rate.

1742
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:22,480
 So we're right at 56 cents, which is kind of comparable to Richardson.

1743
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:23,480
 Plano is a little lower.

1744
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:27,120
 They don't have as much debt as part of their tax rate.

1745
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:33,200
 But you can see Dallas is almost 75 cents, Garland 71 cents.

1746
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:44,000
 So we're on the lower end of these specific cities.

1747
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:50,320
 Here's a comparison of prior years, so that average taxable value we showed earlier.

1748
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:57,760
 You can see because we're not proposing a total tax rate increase, but the average taxable

1749
02:05:57,760 --> 02:05:59,840
 home value did increase.

1750
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:03,840
 It is translating into an increase in the average tax bill.

1751
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:11,080
 So that's about $209 a year or $17.41 a month.

1752
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:15,320
 I think the thing to keep in mind on this slide that is important is this operations

1753
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:16,320
 rate.

1754
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:20,680
 This is the general fund portion, this is what's going to fund those general fund operations.

1755
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:27,080
 This portion of the tax rate has decreased 7 cents since 2018.

1756
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:32,600
 So what we've needed to fund general fund operations is actually decrease 7 cents while

1757
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:37,560
 keeping the debt rate relatively flat during that same time.

1758
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:43,140
 The thing that's important about that is we had a 2019 bond program that was expected

1759
02:06:43,140 --> 02:06:46,640
 to increase our debt portion of our tax rate about 3.5 cents.

1760
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:50,820
 We didn't see that happen because those assessed values came in really strong.

1761
02:06:50,820 --> 02:06:54,400
 So while we're trying to keep our debt low, at the same time we're trying to keep our

1762
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,760
 operating expenses low and manageable.

1763
02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:07,280
 And so we've actually decreased the tax rate 7 cents since 2018.

1764
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:13,080
 Assemblymember Meltzer specifically requested a comparison to CPI.

1765
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:18,120
 So we showed a 7 year average tax bill and how it compares to CPI.

1766
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:22,120
 So this year we are outpacing CPI.

1767
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:24,480
 There's been a couple of years we've outpaced CPI.

1768
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,840
 It's not a flat line.

1769
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,600
 But again, I want to reiterate that growth.

1770
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:36,320
 One of the reasons we're proposing to keep the same tax rate even though the assessed

1771
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:40,400
 value is increasing is because of one, the council priorities.

1772
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:44,760
 The things that you all have said are priorities in the budget that we want to fund.

1773
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,400
 Like public safety.

1774
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,040
 Those things increase our costs.

1775
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,960
 Personnel, equipment, things like that.

1776
02:07:52,960 --> 02:08:00,920
 And so that's one of the reasons you're seeing that average tax bill increase from 23 to

1777
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,040
 24.

1778
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:04,040
 New value.

1779
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:10,000
 So we saw a substantial increase in our new value this year compared to previous years.

1780
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:13,000
 So I wanted to highlight that for council.

1781
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,320
 I know I received a question about what's in this new value.

1782
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:18,600
 Is it residential versus commercial?

1783
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:19,600
 What's the mix?

1784
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:20,960
 I don't have that information yet.

1785
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:26,640
 I have to ask the appraisal district to give me more information on what that mix is in

1786
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:27,640
 the new value.

1787
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,140
 So I'll follow up with council on that.

1788
02:08:30,140 --> 02:08:41,000
 But that's approximately 3.6 million in revenue to the general fund based on that new value.

1789
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,640
 So I know this is what everyone's been waiting on, that general fund forecast.

1790
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:49,320
 So you can see a couple of things I wanted to point out.

1791
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:54,920
 Our general fund forecast this year includes the rec fund revenue and expenses coming into

1792
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:55,920
 general fund.

1793
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:58,400
 That was previously a separate fund.

1794
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:04,160
 However, because that fund was substantially funded by general fund transfers, we felt

1795
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:09,060
 like it was more transparent to dissolve the fund and show it all in general fund.

1796
02:09:09,060 --> 02:09:12,600
 So you're seeing some increases in service fees.

1797
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:16,000
 That includes that rec fund fees.

1798
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,960
 And then also the personnel expenses increase.

1799
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:24,640
 It's about $4 million that we brought in from the rec fund expenses.

1800
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:31,640
 And then other revenue, you see the $38.9 million in the FY24 proposed.

1801
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:38,160
 That includes ROI, franchise fee, and the transfers from other internal service funds

1802
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:39,800
 and utility funds.

1803
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:49,380
 So their portion to pay HR, CMO, tech services, those types of transfers, those are included

1804
02:09:49,380 --> 02:09:52,300
 in that $38.9 million.

1805
02:09:52,300 --> 02:09:57,480
 On the flip side of those are the revenues, the transfers out, so our portion to pay those

1806
02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:03,280
 other internal service funds is included in the $22.6 million in transfers.

1807
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:07,180
 So we have a cost allocation model that we updated last year.

1808
02:10:07,180 --> 02:10:11,760
 We keep that model updated and make sure we're paying our proportionate share of each of

1809
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,840
 the internal service funds.

1810
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:21,480
 You'll see the personnel services, that's a substantial increase from the prior year.

1811
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:26,680
 That does include the fully loaded comp and class increases.

1812
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:34,120
 So that was about almost $9 million for the entire city of increasing those personnel

1813
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:36,160
 costs.

1814
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:37,280
 But that's fully loaded.

1815
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:45,800
 And it does include a 2% average merit increase for '24 for our personnel.

1816
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:47,400
 So this is a balanced budget.

1817
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,720
 Net income is zero.

1818
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:54,040
 We are drawing down the '23 fund balance.

1819
02:10:54,040 --> 02:11:00,480
 That is based on council's direction to fund the one-time Bezos Academy funding out of

1820
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:01,980
 current year fund balance.

1821
02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:07,840
 So that's included in the FY '23 estimate.

1822
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:13,800
 Other notable items, we are keeping our fund balance above that fund balance target of

1823
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:17,480
 20 to 25% fund balance.

1824
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:25,240
 In FY '28, that's expected to be 26%, which is a good thing when we go to get rated by

1825
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:28,640
 our rating agencies for our bond rating.

1826
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:33,800
 That decreases our interest rate costs if we can maintain our high credit rating -- bond

1827
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:39,240
 rating, excuse me.

1828
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:42,920
 And then may I have a couple more slides until a break and then we can have questions.

1829
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:48,200
 So I already mentioned these proposed supplementals of 4.9 million.

1830
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:54,600
 So here's a list of the individual supplementals that the city manager is proposing funding

1831
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:56,320
 for next year.

1832
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,640
 I've already mentioned the merit increase.

1833
02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:01,800
 That's a 2% average for employees.

1834
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:05,620
 Fire is requesting six additional FTEs.

1835
02:12:05,620 --> 02:12:10,120
 That's mainly for fire station number 9.

1836
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:15,080
 And then police is requesting three additional FTEs.

1837
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:20,900
 Streets -- we brought counsel the presentation in January on roadway funding strategies.

1838
02:12:20,900 --> 02:12:28,240
 So how do we start funding more roadways with cash or revenue funding versus relying on

1839
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:29,960
 debt funding?

1840
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:36,040
 So the presentation proposed $5 million a year in revenue funding, additional revenue

1841
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:43,040
 funding needed for street reconstructions, we're proposing $1 million to start based

1842
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:48,560
 on, you know, the current budget, but again, this is a counsel decision point as to whether

1843
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:54,160
 you want to continue -- or propose to fund $1 million or change that amount.

1844
02:12:54,160 --> 02:13:00,620
 Community services, we're requesting one additional FTE that's a community improvement officer

1845
02:13:00,620 --> 02:13:04,920
 for solid waste that is actually funded from the solid waste fund, so there's a transfer

1846
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:10,200
 coming back to general fund to pay for that FTE, but wanted to show you that.

1847
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:15,560
 And then also the ambassador program, which you've already, you know, seen and given direction

1848
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,840
 to proceed with that two-year pilot program.

1849
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:24,480
 Animal services is requesting additional FTE for an animal services technician.

1850
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,480
 Development services is requesting two FTEs.

1851
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:33,800
 These are covered, though, through their fees, so this is not an additional expense to general

1852
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:37,800
 fund because it is covered by their revenue that they're bringing in.

1853
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:41,120
 Library is requesting a part-time FTE.

1854
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:50,240
 HR is requesting one FTE plus some money to do a reorganization of their group.

1855
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:54,440
 And then Parks and Rec is requesting one and a half FTEs.

1856
02:13:54,440 --> 02:14:01,680
 They're proposing to bring the Parks Foundation position in-house and make that a city FTE,

1857
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:04,440
 so that's one and a half of that FTE.

1858
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:08,680
 And then internal audit is requesting a compliance specialist.

1859
02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:15,680
 Economic development is requesting one FTE along with a contract increase for the EDP.

1860
02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:18,880
 They're proposing to bring the Main Street position in-house.

1861
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:21,200
 That's currently a contracted position.

1862
02:14:21,200 --> 02:14:24,680
 They're requesting to bring that FTE into the general fund.

1863
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:29,520
 And then the city manager's office is requesting one FTE as a senior management analyst.

1864
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:39,120
 That's to handle engaged dentin requests and assist our upcoming communications officer.

1865
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:47,500
 So total of 19 new FTEs proposed with $4.9 million.

1866
02:14:47,500 --> 02:14:51,960
 And then one-time expenses in the current year, I already mentioned the Bezos Academy,

1867
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,260
 the $1.5 million.

1868
02:14:54,260 --> 02:14:57,080
 Police is requesting additional funding for body armor.

1869
02:14:57,080 --> 02:15:02,040
 That's a one-time expense of $196,000.

1870
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:07,400
 Legal is requesting a couple of items, so security system, case management software,

1871
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,480
 conference room, furniture.

1872
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:15,520
 Library is asking for a move of their municipal archives, so some funding to allow them to

1873
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:16,520
 do that.

1874
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:20,760
 And then additional library improvements, so building improvements for the libraries

1875
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:28,200
 of $1.7 million, and that was included in the '23 estimate.

1876
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:29,680
 And with that, I'll take any questions.

1877
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:30,680
 >> Okay.

1878
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:33,360
 And so this would be questions.

1879
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:36,880
 So after we get the questions out, we'll touch on those.

1880
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:42,480
 Lunch is here, but I want to get through the questions, make sure we can cut the directors

1881
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:43,920
 loose after this.

1882
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:50,960
 So if there's any department-specific questions while the director's here, and they need to

1883
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:57,120
 speak to those and get those in, and then we'll break, let them break and go from there.

1884
02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:58,120
 Okay?

1885
02:15:58,120 --> 02:15:59,120
 Questions?

1886
02:15:59,120 --> 02:16:00,120
 Councilman Watts.

1887
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:03,000
 >> Let me make sure I understand what you just said.

1888
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:07,480
 So my questions are basically based on her presentation, some very quick questions.

1889
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:12,880
 Are you saying that if there's questions for these enterprise funds coming up, those need

1890
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:14,760
 to be asked at this time as well?

1891
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:15,760
 >> Yes.

1892
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:16,760
 Yes.

1893
02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:23,120
 Because with that, I would think with the overview, that would guide potentially for

1894
02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:27,240
 some of the enterprise or transfers, that sort of thing, questions.

1895
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:29,160
 But yes, trying to pool all those there.

1896
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:30,160
 >> Sure.

1897
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:31,160
 Okay.

1898
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:32,160
 All right.

1899
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:33,160
 Just a couple.

1900
02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:39,420
 On slide nine, just for clarification, you talk about the net between the different tax

1901
02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:51,620
 rate proposals, the 5.725198, that is if -- discussion purposes, we went down to the .494865.

1902
02:16:51,620 --> 02:16:55,600
 The net includes the supplementals that are being requested at this time?

1903
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:56,600
 Is that right?

1904
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:57,600
 >> I believe so.

1905
02:16:57,600 --> 02:16:58,600
 Yes.

1906
02:16:58,600 --> 02:16:59,600
 >> All right.

1907
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:01,480
 So then if we got 5.7, I think the supplementals were 4.9.

1908
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,680
 >> Well, actually, I'd take that back.

1909
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,420
 The supplementals are showing zero.

1910
02:17:05,420 --> 02:17:09,280
 So it would be -- >> So we're behind from where -- so we're

1911
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:12,080
 spending 5.7 more in the expense side.

1912
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,080
 >> Right.

1913
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:14,080
 >> Then we -- okay.

1914
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:15,080
 Got you.

1915
02:17:15,080 --> 02:17:20,280
 And then on the no new revenue rate, do you break -- is that broken down into M&O and

1916
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:22,380
 debt service?

1917
02:17:22,380 --> 02:17:23,520
 For the no new revenue rate?

1918
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:24,520
 I know you broke down the proposal.

1919
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:27,520
 >> So the no new revenue rate is for the total tax rate.

1920
02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:28,520
 >> Right.

1921
02:17:28,520 --> 02:17:33,120
 >> So it would be the 49 -- we would -- the debt service doesn't change.

1922
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:34,120
 So -- >> Okay.

1923
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:39,380
 >> So it would be the 20 cents minus -- so it would be 39 something -- or 29 something.

1924
02:17:39,380 --> 02:17:40,380
 >> 20.

1925
02:17:40,380 --> 02:17:41,380
 >> Okay.

1926
02:17:41,380 --> 02:17:42,380
 All right.

1927
02:17:42,380 --> 02:17:44,560
 And then let's see here.

1928
02:17:44,560 --> 02:17:52,360
 Going to the -- the supplementals, I guess.

1929
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:59,920
 The street -- the roadway funding strategy, I know we talked about that.

1930
02:17:59,920 --> 02:18:08,720
 And so we're trying to do less debt funding and more cash -- is that right?

1931
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:09,720
 >> Yes.

1932
02:18:09,720 --> 02:18:16,360
 >> Which means we're trying to reduce the amount of the debt service rate.

1933
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:21,000
 Because if you're reducing debt, if you're not having as much debt, you're not raising

1934
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:23,320
 the rate to -- and you're shifting it.

1935
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:28,640
 You're shifting it from cash, which would go to the M&O rate, and taking it out of the

1936
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:29,840
 debt service rate.

1937
02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:35,120
 That's conceptually -- this is so de minimis, it doesn't really even make a difference.

1938
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:37,240
 But okay.

1939
02:18:37,240 --> 02:18:43,920
 And then the one-time service, the one-time fees, are those coming out of the general

1940
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:44,920
 fund balance?

1941
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:46,760
 I mean, where does this fit into the budget?

1942
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:54,240
 >> So the general fund, it's only drawing down -- because of our current estimates for

1943
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:55,240
 how we're going to end the year --

1944
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:56,240
 >> Right.

1945
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:59,600
 >> -- we're estimating to be a little higher on revenues than what we originally proposed

1946
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:00,720
 in the budget.

1947
02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:07,000
 So we're only drawing down the fund balance by $666,000 to fund all of those one-time

1948
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:08,000
 expenses.

1949
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,000
 >> Those one-time expenses, okay.

1950
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:13,720
 So those are separate from the 4.9 supplemental and the tax rate, the proposed tax rate?

1951
02:19:13,720 --> 02:19:14,720
 >> Correct.

1952
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:19,520
 >> So if you wanted either a tax rate decrease or increase, those supplementals would shift

1953
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:20,520
 accordingly?

1954
02:19:20,520 --> 02:19:21,520
 >> Yes.

1955
02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:22,520
 >> Okay.

1956
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:26,280
 I think -- let me go to the mayor real quick.

1957
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:28,680
 I sent you some questions that I think you answered.

1958
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:34,800
 Just as a heads-up to the -- not heads-up, but information to the council, because I

1959
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:42,400
 think that the $1 billion new value is quite remarkable, and that -- at least from what

1960
02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:50,240
 I've got from the 2022 certified and 2023 certified rolls from the county -- that's

1961
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:56,040
 about a 72% increase, or plus or minus, over last year.

1962
02:19:56,040 --> 02:20:02,160
 And a lot of that is -- of course, you've got your single-family residential, your multifamily,

1963
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:09,360
 but also in commercial, the item called commercial real property, it went from -- I think it

1964
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:15,640
 was 97 -- yeah, $97 million to $298 million.

1965
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:17,560
 >> That was for the total certified.

1966
02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:18,560
 >> Right.

1967
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:19,560
 >> Yeah.

1968
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:20,560
 >> Yeah.

1969
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:21,560
 >> Yeah.

1970
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:22,560
 >> Yes.

1971
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:23,560
 Yeah.

1972
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:24,560
 Well, that shows under new value.

1973
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:25,560
 >> Oh, okay.

1974
02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:29,960
 >> So it was 97 new value, and this year it was 298 new value.

1975
02:20:29,960 --> 02:20:30,960
 >> Right.

1976
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:31,960
 >> They're separate.

1977
02:20:31,960 --> 02:20:32,960
 >> Right.

1978
02:20:32,960 --> 02:20:33,960
 >> Yeah.

1979
02:20:33,960 --> 02:20:34,960
 Okay.

1980
02:20:34,960 --> 02:20:35,960
 And then let me think.

1981
02:20:35,960 --> 02:20:43,040
 Let me just make sure I got all this -- okay.

1982
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:44,800
 Something might pop up, but that's helpful.

1983
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:47,800
 Thank you.

1984
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:57,320
 >> Okay, any other questions?

1985
02:20:57,320 --> 02:20:59,320
 Councilmember Magee, Mayor Partem.

1986
02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:02,600
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1987
02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:06,020
 I obviously have some questions for Cassie.

1988
02:21:06,020 --> 02:21:09,840
 With your permission, may I ask Councilmember Meltzer a question to lead with?

1989
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:10,840
 >> Sure.

1990
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:15,960
 >> So I remember hearing you talk about this, and Cassie noted in her presentation.

1991
02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:20,360
 So we got information about what the tax bill is.

1992
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:25,320
 So given that information, what does that say to you about the tax bill increasing?

1993
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:26,320
 >> Yeah.

1994
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:32,520
 Well, you know, what I'm -- what I want to do is just be as transparent with the public

1995
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:36,520
 as possible about whether we're voting to increase their taxes or not.

1996
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:38,160
 When you talk about the tax rate, I mean --

1997
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:39,160
 >> Okay.

1998
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:42,800
 >> You know, pay the tax rate, already check for the tax rate, you write a bill.

1999
02:21:42,800 --> 02:21:47,960
 So now I specifically -- I actually asked for the wage inflation rate, not the CPI,

2000
02:21:47,960 --> 02:21:51,200
 but amounts to the same thing right now, it's about four, four and a half percent.

2001
02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:55,360
 You know, whether your home goes up in value if you're a homeowner doesn't necessarily

2002
02:21:55,360 --> 02:22:00,760
 affect your ability to pay more taxes, right, until you sell it.

2003
02:22:00,760 --> 02:22:06,680
 But wage inflation rate could give some indication of whether people are able to pay more.

2004
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:14,480
 So you know, I'd be interested in if it's four, four and a half percent more is what

2005
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:18,520
 people are able to pay, what would that translate to budget-wise?

2006
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:20,440
 What would the gap be?

2007
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:28,320
 And then, you know, what would -- what would staff prioritize as urgent and important?

2008
02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:37,120
 You know, I'm perfectly willing to go to the taxpayers and say we want to go beyond

2009
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:43,480
 your increased ability to pay, you know, do a 12 percent increase in your taxes because

2010
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:47,120
 there are things that are urgent and important and we don't have things that are less urgent

2011
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:50,000
 and less important that we could cut at this time.

2012
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:53,440
 You know, I mean, that's -- but I just want to be transparent about it.

2013
02:22:53,440 --> 02:23:01,880
 So at least as like a gut check, I'd be interested to see where would increasing with the wage

2014
02:23:01,880 --> 02:23:08,400
 inflation rate put us and what would -- what would kind of be on the bubble if we took

2015
02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:09,400
 that approach.

2016
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:12,680
 And then, like I said, if there's things we say -- that we want to say, hey, those are

2017
02:23:12,680 --> 02:23:17,240
 urgent and important, taxpayers, we need you to pay more to fund them, you know, then that's

2018
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:20,240
 -- that's an option.

2019
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:29,400
 Thank you. For Madam City Manager, I didn't see an external comms person in there. A comms

2020
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:30,400
 person?

2021
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:32,320
 There -- I'm taking an existing vacancy.

2022
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:42,680
 Oh, okay. Okay. I appreciate that. So Cassie, going back to slide six, you talked about

2023
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:51,600
 the fire pension fund. How does that compare with areas around us?

2024
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:55,120
 I believe, and I can go back and look at some of the areas, but --

2025
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:58,600
 Yeah, just -- just -- I mean, no need to go in research.

2026
02:23:58,600 --> 02:24:03,160
 We're -- we're in a good place with our fire pension fund. It's -- it's funded adequately,

2027
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:04,160
 so.

2028
02:24:04,160 --> 02:24:05,160
 Okay.

2029
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:08,900
 Councilmember, just so you know, we're way ahead, I mean, considering other cities who

2030
02:24:08,900 --> 02:24:11,960
 are struggling to fund their fire pension.

2031
02:24:11,960 --> 02:24:12,960
 Okay. That's what I was asking.

2032
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:13,960
 We're doing really well.

2033
02:24:13,960 --> 02:24:15,400
 Okay. Great. Well, thank you.

2034
02:24:15,400 --> 02:24:18,600
 And Council has made that a priority in recent years.

2035
02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:26,320
 Okay. Thank you for that. Jumping ahead to eight, in '24-'25, we think there's going

2036
02:24:26,320 --> 02:24:30,680
 to be a 3% increase on the sales tax. Can you say more about that?

2037
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:35,640
 So last year, I actually had the future years at 5%. Based on the current year collection,

2038
02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:44,480
 I've brought that down to about 3%. We are right at our budget, collections-wise, this

2039
02:24:44,480 --> 02:24:45,480
 year.

2040
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:46,480
 This year?

2041
02:24:46,480 --> 02:24:49,440
 So I don't -- it's relatively flat, is what I'm proposing.

2042
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:50,440
 Okay.

2043
02:24:50,440 --> 02:24:54,480
 For the out years.

2044
02:24:54,480 --> 02:25:03,160
 And jumping ahead to slide 15, Councilmember Holland and I both appreciated this. Whenever

2045
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:10,880
 I'm seeing comparative charts, I like to put -- compare Denton to McKinney. He mentioned

2046
02:25:10,880 --> 02:25:16,720
 Louisville. Any idea kind of where -- what McKinney's rate is?

2047
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:18,360
 I don't know. I'll see if I have that.

2048
02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:26,840
 Okay. Or Louisville's. It's just helpful to me thinking about the size difference there.

2049
02:25:26,840 --> 02:25:32,260
 And last one with the roadway fees. What have y'all done in the past in terms of how you

2050
02:25:32,260 --> 02:25:37,160
 funded this? I remember when we had this discussion earlier this year, we needed $5 million. We

2051
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:44,000
 talked about a tax on utility bills and whatnot. What has been done under previous Councils

2052
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:50,240
 going way back, perhaps, when Burroughs or Mr. Watts was in the Cabinet?

2053
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:57,760
 Previous Councils, they started increasing it based on the franchise fee revenue. So

2054
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:04,480
 the revenue that the City collects for those utilities using our right-of-way or the franchise

2055
02:26:04,480 --> 02:26:12,200
 fee, they were increasing about $600,000 a year, which is what we've done. We also -- that's

2056
02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:17,540
 one of the reasons that the utilities sell COs. They issue COs now instead of revenue

2057
02:26:17,540 --> 02:26:23,020
 bonds is because the difference in the interest rates between the City's credit rating and

2058
02:26:23,020 --> 02:26:28,940
 the utilities system credit bond rating, that difference goes to fund a portion of the streets

2059
02:26:28,940 --> 02:26:34,960
 improvement fund also. And quite honestly, previous Councils were relying on -- we were

2060
02:26:34,960 --> 02:26:40,400
 relying on debt. That's one of the reasons you saw the numbers from the 2019 bond program.

2061
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:48,180
 The majority of that was the roadway improvements. Same with 2014. 2012 was only debt for roadways.

2062
02:26:48,180 --> 02:26:54,460
 We have been very reliant on debt to fund our infrastructure. And so the point of the

2063
02:26:54,460 --> 02:27:00,480
 roadway funding strategy discussion is, how do we maintain our roads but also get away

2064
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:04,940
 from that heavy debt reliance? Because what happens is, like in 2019, we issue a large

2065
02:27:04,940 --> 02:27:11,380
 amount of debt, and so our tax rate creeps up for several years, and then we kind of

2066
02:27:11,380 --> 02:27:15,980
 normalize, but then we have this whole amount of roadway that needs to be redone. So for

2067
02:27:15,980 --> 02:27:21,620
 instance, 2026, we're going to come and need a significant amount of roadway redone, and

2068
02:27:21,620 --> 02:27:26,100
 the only way to pay for that all at once is through debt. So this was saying over a 40-year

2069
02:27:26,100 --> 02:27:32,220
 window, how do we reduce that reliance on debt funding? And so it's not going to fix

2070
02:27:32,220 --> 02:27:37,500
 the problem in the short term, but you're going to see in that 40-year window, you're

2071
02:27:37,500 --> 02:27:44,380
 going to see less reliance on debt. So to your point, Councilmember Watts, it won't

2072
02:27:44,380 --> 02:27:49,460
 decrease it because you still have that backlog that you're trying to make up for, but over

2073
02:27:49,460 --> 02:27:55,260
 the 40-year, you should see a decrease in your overall debt tax rate.

2074
02:27:55,260 --> 02:28:00,700
 And last question, Mr. Mayor, for you or for staff. So specifically with this discussion,

2075
02:28:00,700 --> 02:28:05,020
 roadway funding strategies, is this going to be brought back to us again in work session

2076
02:28:05,020 --> 02:28:08,600
 form? We're going to have to have some more discussion about this, whether we like that

2077
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:13,540
 one million amount or whatnot. So how's that going to work?

2078
02:28:13,540 --> 02:28:19,660
 I would like direction today on how Council feels about the one million. And then we do

2079
02:28:19,660 --> 02:28:24,780
 have follow-up budget discussions scheduled from now until budget adoption on the 26th

2080
02:28:24,780 --> 02:28:32,620
 of September. But the more direction I can get today, the more I can make some different

2081
02:28:32,620 --> 02:28:36,140
 decisions or make the changes to the budget and then bring that back to show you what

2082
02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:38,740
 it looks like. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2083
02:28:38,740 --> 02:28:44,380
 Thank you, Mayor Proctor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So two quick questions,

2084
02:28:44,380 --> 02:28:50,300
 and I think I understand, but I just want to be clear to make sure. Of the supplementals,

2085
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:57,420
 the total is $4.9. We're proposing $3.1 in essentially FTEs and $1.8 in one-times, is

2086
02:28:57,420 --> 02:28:59,780
 that correct? No.

2087
02:28:59,780 --> 02:29:04,780
 So the $1.8 in one-time expenditures is in the $4.9 total?

2088
02:29:04,780 --> 02:29:09,140
 Are you talking about the one-time expenses, this $1.8, $1.7?

2089
02:29:09,140 --> 02:29:13,380
 Yes. That is not included in the $4.9 million.

2090
02:29:13,380 --> 02:29:17,220
 So it's $5 million in an additional $1.8 million.

2091
02:29:17,220 --> 02:29:20,500
 Correct. Okay. All right. All right. I did have it screwed

2092
02:29:20,500 --> 02:29:25,500
 up. Thank you for clarifying that. And then my other question picks up from Councilman

2093
02:29:25,500 --> 02:29:34,740
 Lee. I do think we need to have a robust discussion about that. This is the streets, sorry. If

2094
02:29:34,740 --> 02:29:41,500
 we have $1 million in streets, but we are proposing that we need $5 million, what is

2095
02:29:41,500 --> 02:29:47,980
 the delay in getting to the desired funding street level?

2096
02:29:47,980 --> 02:29:53,900
 So essentially, it's a kicking the can mechanism and using time to leverage instead of money.

2097
02:29:53,900 --> 02:30:00,600
 So is that all the way out to 40 years before we can compensate? Or how soon, if we start

2098
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:07,620
 at one, will that be enough? And if it's not, then how fast will we have to ramp up? And

2099
02:30:07,620 --> 02:30:12,180
 over what time period will it kick in? That may be out of scope for this conversation,

2100
02:30:12,180 --> 02:30:17,060
 so I'd be willing to let it be at another. But I'm concerned that if we have a need

2101
02:30:17,060 --> 02:30:21,260
 for five and we're proposing one, what does that do to us?

2102
02:30:21,260 --> 02:30:26,060
 I think a couple of things. So I think it depends on how quickly Council is willing

2103
02:30:26,060 --> 02:30:32,240
 to commit the rest. So we're proposing one this year. If I come back next year with only

2104
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:39,460
 $1 million proposed, that's going to extend that 40 year into longer. But if Council decides

2105
02:30:39,460 --> 02:30:43,980
 this year is $1 million, maybe we want to increase it by $1 million next year, so that

2106
02:30:43,980 --> 02:30:48,040
 gets you to $2 million. I think that's a different conversation. So I really think it's up to

2107
02:30:48,040 --> 02:30:52,900
 Council as to that funding, but we can model out what that looks like as far as what it

2108
02:30:52,900 --> 02:30:56,540
 does for the street condition over that time period.

2109
02:30:56,540 --> 02:31:01,600
 Yeah, I'd be particularly interested in the effect of different growth rates over time

2110
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:07,660
 and the delay. Okay, any other questions? Councilman Holler.

2111
02:31:07,660 --> 02:31:12,860
 Thank you. What other funding opportunities are available for streets?

2112
02:31:12,860 --> 02:31:20,020
 So one of the things that I think Council could decide to do is look at the revenue

2113
02:31:20,020 --> 02:31:24,940
 we receive from Core Scientific so that ROI and franchise fee money coming into general

2114
02:31:24,940 --> 02:31:31,420
 fund. More of that could be allocated to roadway funding. It's already revenue coming into

2115
02:31:31,420 --> 02:31:33,460
 the general fund. We could allocate more of that.

2116
02:31:33,460 --> 02:31:36,420
 What kind of number would you guess that is?

2117
02:31:36,420 --> 02:31:49,700
 There's about an additional $4.6 million, I believe, coming from a dedicated ROI and

2118
02:31:49,700 --> 02:31:55,660
 franchise fee amount coming to general fund. And I would say that's an amount that Council

2119
02:31:55,660 --> 02:32:00,140
 could direct to use more or less of that to this roadway funding strategy.

2120
02:32:00,140 --> 02:32:05,700
 Excellent. Thank you. I just want to point out we're in a really, really high inflation

2121
02:32:05,700 --> 02:32:13,280
 period right now. Were that to get under control and lacking a crystal ball, but were that

2122
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:17,700
 to get harnessed a little bit? What would happen to these numbers?

2123
02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:24,740
 Well, I think we're in an interesting position in the city. So we have an older city who

2124
02:32:24,740 --> 02:32:30,340
 has a heavy need for infrastructure replacement, but we're also growing, which means we're

2125
02:32:30,340 --> 02:32:35,380
 adding more staff at the same time. So it really is a balance of what does Council

2126
02:32:35,380 --> 02:32:39,060
 expect your level of service to be for these operations?

2127
02:32:39,060 --> 02:32:45,100
 We are proposing what we feel is a balanced budget, but also giving you the service level

2128
02:32:45,100 --> 02:32:49,780
 that we feel like Council has expected of us in the past. Council could opt to change

2129
02:32:49,780 --> 02:32:55,540
 that service level. If you say you don't want high response time in fire, that we wouldn't

2130
02:32:55,540 --> 02:33:00,980
 need as many firefighters. I would not recommend that. But those are the tradeoffs that Council

2131
02:33:00,980 --> 02:33:05,980
 can-- Recommending that. May I be clear?

2132
02:33:05,980 --> 02:33:08,980
 Those are the tradeoffs that Council can opt to make.

2133
02:33:08,980 --> 02:33:17,460
 Okay. Thank you. Parks, the Parks Foundation position and the Economic Development position,

2134
02:33:17,460 --> 02:33:21,660
 how have those been, have they been volunteer positions prior to now?

2135
02:33:21,660 --> 02:33:26,540
 They've been contracted positions. I can have Christine Taylor come up and give you a little

2136
02:33:26,540 --> 02:33:29,060
 bit more information about those specific positions.

2137
02:33:29,060 --> 02:33:37,060
 If you don't mind. Both of those positions have funding in

2138
02:33:37,060 --> 02:33:41,700
 the operating budget for Parks and Economic Development, where we paid the Park Foundation

2139
02:33:41,700 --> 02:33:48,140
 $125,000 a year, maybe a little less than that. And then they went out and hired the

2140
02:33:48,140 --> 02:33:54,460
 employee. Same thing on the Main Street Association. It was a contract where we funded them $125,000

2141
02:33:54,460 --> 02:34:00,100
 approximately, and they had a full-time employee. So with the Main Street Association, Christine

2142
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:04,220
 Gossett left that. It became vacant. They had conversations with the board who was in

2143
02:34:04,220 --> 02:34:08,700
 agreeance that that would be a great position to bring back in-house. On the Park Foundation

2144
02:34:08,700 --> 02:34:14,260
 side, they've had that position vacant for six months or longer. And same conversation

2145
02:34:14,260 --> 02:34:18,340
 with their board that they were interested in the city bringing that back in as an operation.

2146
02:34:18,340 --> 02:34:22,300
 With a net savings? Correct. So we would reduce that operating cost.

2147
02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:27,920
 Both of those would be a net zero. We'd reduce that operating expense, add the position,

2148
02:34:27,920 --> 02:34:33,500
 and there's no additional cost in the supplemental. Okay. Very good. Very good. Thank you. That's

2149
02:34:33,500 --> 02:34:36,180
 all I got. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Councilmember McGee.

2150
02:34:36,180 --> 02:34:42,020
 Madam City Manager, can I just ask you if you don't mind to explain your idea on funding

2151
02:34:42,020 --> 02:34:44,860
 roadways strategy? No, I mean, it's not really. I don't want

2152
02:34:44,860 --> 02:34:48,540
 to take, not like it's credit, but correct me if I'm wrong. I think you might want to

2153
02:34:48,540 --> 02:34:54,340
 explain to them where you showed 15 point something million in streets. Okay. So show

2154
02:34:54,340 --> 02:34:59,140
 them that. This is important because it's, you got so much money you're putting into

2155
02:34:59,140 --> 02:35:11,660
 streets. I know. I know. There it is. Transfer a 15.7 million to streets improvement fund.

2156
02:35:11,660 --> 02:35:15,260
 Now streets improvement fund is to improve our streets, correct?

2157
02:35:15,260 --> 02:35:20,340
 Yes. Then you're going back and you're saying add a million to roadways based on roadway

2158
02:35:20,340 --> 02:35:23,500
 impact fees. No, not impact fees.

2159
02:35:23,500 --> 02:35:29,780
 Or impact fees. I mean impact fees, not roadway impact fees, but impact fees. So technically,

2160
02:35:29,780 --> 02:35:33,460
 if you, can you not add 15 with plus one? Correct.

2161
02:35:33,460 --> 02:35:40,340
 Okay. So if they wanted to do more with streets, they could next year issue bond, they could

2162
02:35:40,340 --> 02:35:50,060
 do a bond program for streets and increase through the general fund, increase it and

2163
02:35:50,060 --> 02:35:54,700
 say right here today, this is fine for this year, but next year we want you to put 2 million

2164
02:35:54,700 --> 02:36:02,760
 in there and we want you to increase the streets improvement fund by a million, not 600,000.

2165
02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:15,540
 So you have that ability to do that. Okay. Any other questions? Councilman Melton.

2166
02:36:15,540 --> 02:36:23,880
 Thank you. First, if we, you know, are going to look at comparing the 12% proposed increase

2167
02:36:23,880 --> 02:36:32,860
 to a 4 point something. I think it's 4.74. Yeah, I can believe that because I thought

2168
02:36:32,860 --> 02:36:45,020
 wages are finally outpacing price inflation. But are the supplementals in, from staff point

2169
02:36:45,020 --> 02:36:52,300
 of view, in priority order in terms of what's urgent and important? And I realize, you know,

2170
02:36:52,300 --> 02:36:55,580
 obviously you're going to look for our input on that. So, I mean, obviously that's why

2171
02:36:55,580 --> 02:37:02,340
 you've shown fire police. You've already proved a merit. So fire police, we believe, adding

2172
02:37:02,340 --> 02:37:06,340
 money to keep our streets going. But if you look at this, I just want to be, you look

2173
02:37:06,340 --> 02:37:11,340
 at the priorities you all set, community services, that's a priority. Council set. I don't question

2174
02:37:11,340 --> 02:37:15,700
 that every single thing is good and a priority. No, I know that. I'm just telling you, our

2175
02:37:15,700 --> 02:37:21,220
 justification is going by your priority areas. That's why we looked at roadways, community

2176
02:37:21,220 --> 02:37:25,840
 services, animal services. There's an article that came out today that all the animal services

2177
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:29,820
 across the state are struggling with more animals and not enough staff. I mean, I know

2178
02:37:29,820 --> 02:37:34,220
 you know that. But yes, they're in order. Honestly, they're all a priority because if

2179
02:37:34,220 --> 02:37:39,860
 you look at... Yes. Nobody knows proposing anything evil. I know you're not. But yes,

2180
02:37:39,860 --> 02:37:45,900
 I can't, other than police and fire, and they're all in priority order. I mean, they're all

2181
02:37:45,900 --> 02:37:51,540
 priorities, but they're in order based on priority. Urgent and important. Okay. And

2182
02:37:51,540 --> 02:37:59,120
 then just more narrowly, I didn't look and see. I could, but this is what's coming up.

2183
02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:12,060
 Is the Park Master Plan pace of acquisition funded in this budget? So the land acquisition,

2184
02:38:12,060 --> 02:38:17,460
 we don't have a placeholder in the CIP budget for land acquisition. Council could give that

2185
02:38:17,460 --> 02:38:23,580
 direction and say we want to fund, you know, we want $2 million a year, for instance, for

2186
02:38:23,580 --> 02:38:28,380
 park acquisition funding. We can add that to the CIP if you give us direction today

2187
02:38:28,380 --> 02:38:32,300
 to do that. But currently we don't have a placeholder. And what would the number be

2188
02:38:32,300 --> 02:38:37,420
 that would keep us on pace with the master plan? I don't know that off the top of my...

2189
02:38:37,420 --> 02:38:48,420
 Okay. I'll make sure to get that. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? Councilman Watts.

2190
02:38:48,420 --> 02:38:53,100
 Just for clarification, especially from what the comments were from the city manager, on

2191
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:57,820
 this roadway funding strategy, look, we tried to do this with vehicle replacement, and it

2192
02:38:57,820 --> 02:39:04,700
 didn't work. I mean, me personally, you know, debt is not an enemy when it's used appropriately

2193
02:39:04,700 --> 02:39:09,580
 and when it's used because it's all about cash flow and it's about priorities. And plus,

2194
02:39:09,580 --> 02:39:12,940
 until now, interest rates have been such we should have financed everything we could get,

2195
02:39:12,940 --> 02:39:17,460
 but that's a different story. But what I'm hearing is on the roadway funding strategy,

2196
02:39:17,460 --> 02:39:21,760
 if we wanted to allocate more money to the street maintenance fund, because that's really

2197
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:28,700
 what that is. The street maintenance fund is for road and even $5 million a year to

2198
02:39:28,700 --> 02:39:33,900
 reconstruct a road. I mean, it's not going to... So I really think there's a different

2199
02:39:33,900 --> 02:39:38,620
 way to do that without it quote unquote being added as a supplemental. And then I have a

2200
02:39:38,620 --> 02:39:45,680
 question on these positions that have been being brought in house, which means we've

2201
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:52,660
 already got in the budget, prior year budgets, money to pay for those contracts or for those

2202
02:39:52,660 --> 02:39:58,940
 contractors. So if we're just switching, and this may be the delta of the cost, but if

2203
02:39:58,940 --> 02:40:06,420
 we're switching from independent contractor to person, the funding mechanism hasn't necessarily

2204
02:40:06,420 --> 02:40:11,700
 changed. We still have money. And so I don't know why it would be a supplemental unless

2205
02:40:11,700 --> 02:40:16,380
 we were paying 50,000 to the contractor and now we're paying 100. Well, then that would

2206
02:40:16,380 --> 02:40:20,980
 be an additional supplemental. But if we're just changing out titles without any increase

2207
02:40:20,980 --> 02:40:25,660
 in the cost, I don't think that should be under supplemental. Am I wrong?

2208
02:40:25,660 --> 02:40:29,940
 It's for the addition of the FTE because since it was contracted, we had it just part of

2209
02:40:29,940 --> 02:40:34,740
 their operating budget, we didn't need to have an actual full-time equivalent as part

2210
02:40:34,740 --> 02:40:41,000
 of the budget. So they're essentially asking you, asking council to add the FTE. While

2211
02:40:41,000 --> 02:40:45,940
 you're seeing some of those costs, it's the other supplemental. So the $50,000 on there,

2212
02:40:45,940 --> 02:40:49,500
 it is zero for the Main Street position. Because like you said, we've got the funding, we're

2213
02:40:49,500 --> 02:40:53,780
 just bringing it in the house. All we're asking with that request is for one full-time equivalent,

2214
02:40:53,780 --> 02:40:59,900
 no additional dollars. The $50,000 is to increase economic development contract, economic development

2215
02:40:59,900 --> 02:41:05,300
 partnership contract increase. And then on parks, that cost is primarily is the field

2216
02:41:05,300 --> 02:41:11,640
 service worker. Okay. So then the 50,000 on the economic development

2217
02:41:11,640 --> 02:41:16,340
 label is for the EDP contract increase. Yes.

2218
02:41:16,340 --> 02:41:19,260
 Whereas the Main Street position is a net zero. Correct.

2219
02:41:19,260 --> 02:41:23,700
 And that's just, okay, I got you. Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Okay. Thank you.

2220
02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:30,620
 Okay. Any other questions? Councilman McGee, then Mayor Patu.

2221
02:41:30,620 --> 02:41:38,660
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So a question right here on supplementals. With community services,

2222
02:41:38,660 --> 02:41:43,500
 I'm just, I'm just, I'm just matching one for one here. I remember the contract that

2223
02:41:43,500 --> 02:41:48,280
 we looked at for the ambassador's program was going to be $7,700 and $8,000.

2224
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:53,420
 Right. This has it starting in January. Okay. Okay. Thank you for that.

2225
02:41:53,420 --> 02:41:58,380
 And library. So help me. I remember last year we were looking at this and we looked at those

2226
02:41:58,380 --> 02:42:04,100
 tiers and we decided to fund four tiers instead of five tiers. I believe that fifth tier called

2227
02:42:04,100 --> 02:42:09,340
 for like one and a half positions for libraries and now we didn't fund it. But now I'm seeing

2228
02:42:09,340 --> 02:42:14,060
 we're only asking for a part timer. And I might be wrong on what that fifth tier asked

2229
02:42:14,060 --> 02:42:18,740
 for last year. Can you just help me? I know that while we're waiting on Christine,

2230
02:42:18,740 --> 02:42:23,540
 I know that there were, I don't, I think if I remember, Jennifer asked for several part

2231
02:42:23,540 --> 02:42:29,940
 time, part time positions and we only gave her one or two. This is filling another, actually

2232
02:42:29,940 --> 02:42:34,220
 filling a part time library specialist position. I may be wrong.

2233
02:42:34,220 --> 02:42:39,460
 We did fund positions last year for the library. This year when they brought forth budget supplementals,

2234
02:42:39,460 --> 02:42:45,220
 we had internal conversations with the departments on that increasing that merit and pay was

2235
02:42:45,220 --> 02:42:49,380
 going to be the first priority. So supplemental requests were scaled back and then you're

2236
02:42:49,380 --> 02:42:53,660
 only seeing the request that city management is recommending.

2237
02:42:53,660 --> 02:43:00,980
 Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Appreciate it. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem.

2238
02:43:00,980 --> 02:43:04,940
 Mine's real brief. Could, if we could know some of the things that you just said with

2239
02:43:04,940 --> 02:43:10,860
 counselor Watts and get us a new table of the things that are, you know, already paid

2240
02:43:10,860 --> 02:43:15,060
 for not already paid for some, some of the discussion you just had, I just love to see

2241
02:43:15,060 --> 02:43:19,620
 that because I, I didn't catch it from my notes. So that, that'd just be really helpful.

2242
02:43:19,620 --> 02:43:20,620
 Thank you.

2243
02:43:20,620 --> 02:43:21,620
 Okay.

2244
02:43:21,620 --> 02:43:30,300
 Okay. Any other questions? Cassie, can you forgive me for not having it right in front

2245
02:43:30,300 --> 02:43:38,340
 of me. The sales tax number for this year is what?

2246
02:43:38,340 --> 02:43:47,740
 For this year, we're estimating $56.7 million to collect in sales tax.

2247
02:43:47,740 --> 02:43:59,500
 And that means DCTA gets a half cent of that times 0.05 or 0.05.

2248
02:43:59,500 --> 02:44:08,780
 0.05, I believe. No, 0.5. Sorry, 0.5. Cause ours is 1.5. 0.05.

2249
02:44:08,780 --> 02:44:10,500
 A half cent, yeah.

2250
02:44:10,500 --> 02:44:11,500
 Half percent.

2251
02:44:11,500 --> 02:44:19,980
 Half percent. Okay. Can somebody do that math for me in the end? Cause I'm, I'm, it's,

2252
02:44:19,980 --> 02:44:24,700
 it's, it's, it's counselor Watts.

2253
02:44:24,700 --> 02:44:30,180
 Yeah. Well, just for clarification, this sales tax number represents our collection, which

2254
02:44:30,180 --> 02:44:37,020
 is 1.5 cents or 1.5 percent. DCTA is 0.5 percent.

2255
02:44:37,020 --> 02:44:38,020
 Correct.

2256
02:44:38,020 --> 02:44:43,420
 So correct me if I'm wrong, then basically DTA is getting a third of what we're collecting

2257
02:44:43,420 --> 02:44:51,860
 because a third of 1.5 is 0.5. So you could divide that by three and that gives you a

2258
02:44:51,860 --> 02:44:57,340
 very good indication, you know, a good estimate of what our contribute, which in this case

2259
02:44:57,340 --> 02:45:02,500
 it'd be what, 17 or I can't read it. What's the amount of sales tax we're looking at?

2260
02:45:02,500 --> 02:45:09,940
 56.7 for this year. Yeah. So divide that by three. That's a little, that's about 18, 18

2261
02:45:09,940 --> 02:45:10,940
 million. Yeah.

2262
02:45:10,940 --> 02:45:22,500
 So we need to draft something to them about that TRIPS grant amount and, and, and coordinate

2263
02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:27,220
 with Louisville and the other member cities or whatever. But, but that's just, that's

2264
02:45:27,220 --> 02:45:34,560
 significant because it's, it's not anything against them. But when I hear in the newspaper

2265
02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:44,660
 that they have a $90 million bank account, basically, before they have too many plans

2266
02:45:44,660 --> 02:45:51,740
 for that, I don't want to continue to add $18 million on top of that unchecked, right?

2267
02:45:51,740 --> 02:45:55,340
 Especially when we're talking about infrastructure, we're talking about cycling needs. We're talking

2268
02:45:55,340 --> 02:46:02,300
 about last mile components because, and everything they do, it's not door to door. It's, it's

2269
02:46:02,300 --> 02:46:08,820
 regional drop-offs or area drop-offs. So, so some sort of connectivity with our infrastructure

2270
02:46:08,820 --> 02:46:15,820
 with getting people that last mile and the fact that we continue to perform well to our

2271
02:46:15,820 --> 02:46:21,300
 credit on sales tax doesn't mean that, that that should just go and sit in a bank account

2272
02:46:21,300 --> 02:46:26,980
 somewhere. So whatever, I'll take staff's direction on what form that takes, but that's,

2273
02:46:26,980 --> 02:46:34,540
 that's my request. Then, are there, I would like to know, are there positions open that

2274
02:46:34,540 --> 02:46:40,340
 we've not been able to fill that are on the supplemental list? So for example, if police

2275
02:46:40,340 --> 02:46:44,060
 department, and I'm just using an example, I doubt this is the case, but if police department,

2276
02:46:44,060 --> 02:46:48,020
 hey, we have an opening we hadn't been able to fill and we have these new fields, like

2277
02:46:48,020 --> 02:46:52,740
 anywhere in that supplemental is everything, all those departments are accounted for and

2278
02:46:52,740 --> 02:46:57,300
 we're adding or there's vacancies and we're adding, trying to hire more.

2279
02:46:57,300 --> 02:47:01,460
 I can answer that. And, and Frank shaking his head no in police because they just did

2280
02:47:01,460 --> 02:47:09,100
 an academy and same thing with fire. The community services, they need that position. And then

2281
02:47:09,100 --> 02:47:19,020
 one is just to reclass animal services. Absolutely. There's no vacancies other than Tiffany. And

2282
02:47:19,020 --> 02:47:24,500
 then the library specialists know they're, I'll tell you, seriously, we've been able

2283
02:47:24,500 --> 02:47:28,820
 to fill more jobs because of the, what the great work you did in the merit increase.

2284
02:47:28,820 --> 02:47:33,580
 So and, and then of course, Madison is asking for a compliant special specialist, which

2285
02:47:33,580 --> 02:47:44,260
 she needs. She has no vacancies. Okay, great. Thank you for that. Then just

2286
02:47:44,260 --> 02:47:52,820
 in this not today, but for future, I would like to have a maybe top three list of city

2287
02:47:52,820 --> 02:47:59,000
 revenue producing being that the, you know, all our departments are great work and I want

2288
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:04,660
 to make a plug for our record and recreation centers, birthday parties. They're fantastic.

2289
02:48:04,660 --> 02:48:09,220
 You know, so if you're looking for a place to host your birthday party, call your Denton

2290
02:48:09,220 --> 02:48:14,180
 Parks and Rec Department and we'll hook you right up. So that means you can't beat the

2291
02:48:14,180 --> 02:48:17,940
 indoor bounce house. You know, you beat the heat, you have fun. It's all good things.

2292
02:48:17,940 --> 02:48:24,500
 But I would like to know kind of what, what, what programs are generating just so I can,

2293
02:48:24,500 --> 02:48:27,140
 you know, have that in the back of my mind. So if you could help me with that, that'd

2294
02:48:27,140 --> 02:48:32,660
 be great. And just over the, you know, fiscal year. And then I want to confirm e-bikes that's

2295
02:48:32,660 --> 02:48:40,180
 in the budget. I believe that's included. Okay. It's in the current fiscal year. Great.

2296
02:48:40,180 --> 02:48:51,880
 Perfect. Thank you. And then traditionally in the past, you've given us a slide of those

2297
02:48:51,880 --> 02:48:55,980
 that have received tax abatements that are rolling off or whatever phase is there. And

2298
02:48:55,980 --> 02:49:00,060
 can you bring that back? Sure. I'd love to see that because I think for example, embassy

2299
02:49:00,060 --> 02:49:05,140
 should be there in the nineties. They were 100%. I would think that that's tiered. So

2300
02:49:05,140 --> 02:49:09,580
 I just don't know where they are in that, but I'd like to see that just kind of an update.

2301
02:49:09,580 --> 02:49:14,660
 And I think, cause we're best by is that crossing. I think that rolled off, but just want to

2302
02:49:14,660 --> 02:49:20,060
 understand where we are. Yeah. And because it also features the ROI, which is a great,

2303
02:49:20,060 --> 02:49:29,220
 great point. So we'd like to see that. Um, then I'm going to, uh, last thing is I, I'm

2304
02:49:29,220 --> 02:49:36,200
 just going to make a push for one additional supplemental. And that is the $25,000 to brand

2305
02:49:36,200 --> 02:49:43,340
 the trash cans. Uh, and that it would just say simply kids at play on new trash cans.

2306
02:49:43,340 --> 02:49:50,340
 When people get their Ben replaced, it just serves as a great reminder to me, easy messaging.

2307
02:49:50,340 --> 02:49:54,460
 Everyone in the neighborhood would roll out their trash cans and on the side of it, at

2308
02:49:54,460 --> 02:49:59,420
 some point, uh, taking a stash point that it would be above the arm. So it's not beat

2309
02:49:59,420 --> 02:50:05,140
 up, but kind of across the top, or just say kids at play and just kind of a gentle reminder

2310
02:50:05,140 --> 02:50:10,460
 that would circulate throughout the entire city to run remind people to be mindful of

2311
02:50:10,460 --> 02:50:16,220
 how they're driving. And each, each neighborhood, a resident has asked me about her or talk

2312
02:50:16,220 --> 02:50:20,700
 to me about it regularly. So it's kind of a way to equally serve everyone in that way,

2313
02:50:20,700 --> 02:50:26,260
 or at least, uh, kind of keep that top of mind. So that purse staffs last Friday report,

2314
02:50:26,260 --> 02:50:30,900
 I think the numbers around 25,000 for, for new. And so I'd ask to add that. And if it

2315
02:50:30,900 --> 02:50:35,220
 gets support, it does, but, uh, if it doesn't, it doesn't, but that's, that's important

2316
02:50:35,220 --> 02:50:41,860
 to me. So thank you very much. Um, lunch is here. And if I'd ask the directors and the

2317
02:50:41,860 --> 02:50:46,140
 general fund to come have lunch, at least with the council members. And then unless

2318
02:50:46,140 --> 02:50:51,420
 any council member, other than enterprise enterprise or, um, other funds need to stay,

2319
02:50:51,420 --> 02:50:56,660
 but the other general fund department heads, uh, can go, uh, but you need, but please come

2320
02:50:56,660 --> 02:50:59,940
 eat because otherwise we're going to have so much food. We're going to be, I don't

2321
02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:04,620
 know what we'll do. Okay. So, um, any other questions before we break for lunch? Anything

2322
02:51:04,620 --> 02:51:13,980
 else? Councilor Watts, uh, just for options, I would like to see, uh, on the $1 million

2323
02:51:13,980 --> 02:51:19,620
 for street funding. I mean, I think that's going to fall the wayside of the vehicle cash

2324
02:51:19,620 --> 02:51:24,100
 funding that we tried for many years. And it just, so I would like to see what it would

2325
02:51:24,100 --> 02:51:29,060
 be like if that were excluded, how we add that somewhere with some other revenue that

2326
02:51:29,060 --> 02:51:33,740
 we've already got in the fund. And then what's that take the tax rate down to? If we just

2327
02:51:33,740 --> 02:51:42,780
 take that out, that's it. Or is there something that management thinks just missed the cut

2328
02:51:42,780 --> 02:51:49,540
 that, that, you know, might assist with some of that, whether it's another animal services

2329
02:51:49,540 --> 02:51:53,140
 officer, I, I don't know what it is. So I don't know, but I'm just saying, I think that

2330
02:51:53,140 --> 02:51:58,980
 million dollars, I hear, I hear the aspiration, but over time and the way we've looked at

2331
02:51:58,980 --> 02:52:04,620
 it and the cost of these street reconstructions and the for it, it's just going to sit in

2332
02:52:04,620 --> 02:52:09,820
 a fund somewhere. It's going to just, it's going to get used somewhere. It's just fungible.

2333
02:52:09,820 --> 02:52:15,060
 So that's my only thought on that. Yeah. Well, and, and that's a, that gives me a thought

2334
02:52:15,060 --> 02:52:18,940
 and a follow up to that. How long did you, when did that take place? That, when did we

2335
02:52:18,940 --> 02:52:24,100
 start that? The final presentation was made in January of this year, but we worked on

2336
02:52:24,100 --> 02:52:28,980
 that project for about a year before we brought it to council. Okay. Yeah. I know I was just,

2337
02:52:28,980 --> 02:52:33,580
 and how does that sync up with the timing? Cause where I'm going was I take his point

2338
02:52:33,580 --> 02:52:39,020
 and, but at some point we pivoted to where we're going to do all the infrastructure.

2339
02:52:39,020 --> 02:52:43,500
 So I wonder if it was, I don't know how that timing worked where we initially we were just

2340
02:52:43,500 --> 02:52:47,380
 doing the roads and then we're saying we're doing all the infrastructure. And so obviously

2341
02:52:47,380 --> 02:52:52,900
 there's a bigger cost now when we're doing roads versus the previous mentality where

2342
02:52:52,900 --> 02:52:58,980
 we were just doing the surface. I just wasn't sure the time into those. Right. I think the

2343
02:52:58,980 --> 02:53:04,060
 comprehensive approach was before we started on the roadway funding strategy project, but

2344
02:53:04,060 --> 02:53:09,300
 this would be specific for the roadway cost. The other costs are run by other funds. Right.

2345
02:53:09,300 --> 02:53:16,460
 Okay. All right. Any other questions? So water and wastewater infrastructure pay for their

2346
02:53:16,460 --> 02:53:23,580
 portion. Same with drainage is included in the road sometimes, but the roadway is paid

2347
02:53:23,580 --> 02:53:30,820
 by the streets fund. Water utilities is paid by their portion of the fund. And, and one

2348
02:53:30,820 --> 02:53:33,900
 other thing that I've asked for before that I don't know that I've seen and forgive me

2349
02:53:33,900 --> 02:53:37,620
 if it came out in a Friday report and I missed it. It wouldn't be much information percentage

2350
02:53:37,620 --> 02:53:45,460
 of our city that's tax exempt federal. So FEMA has one, two, three, four sites to universities.

2351
02:53:45,460 --> 02:53:52,100
 So I just, that, that matters because when we're doing the comps to Louisville doesn't

2352
02:53:52,100 --> 02:53:56,580
 have the same challenge as McKinney. And then there's, just so you know, the tax rates around

2353
02:53:56,580 --> 02:54:02,700
 44 cents, 45. I could be off. Yes. Yeah. It's I could be off a little bit, but it's, it's

2354
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:08,100
 in the forties. Um, I, I could be wrong, but I think that's right. I was, I was looking,

2355
02:54:08,100 --> 02:54:13,260
 yeah, I was looking as earlier. Yeah. Yeah. But, but so I just would like to know the

2356
02:54:13,260 --> 02:54:21,340
 percentage of, so 100 square miles. What percentage of that is tax exempt? Okay. Because I don't

2357
02:54:21,340 --> 02:54:25,020
 know that they're not like the, they're famous over other building. If you don't know it's

2358
02:54:25,020 --> 02:54:29,420
 there, I mean, you know, it's, it's sitting there. I didn't, I had no idea what it was

2359
02:54:29,420 --> 02:54:34,300
 until, you know, so it's, that's right. That's how I figured it out. I had to look it up.

2360
02:54:34,300 --> 02:54:41,540
 Okay. So it, uh, I tried to walk in and ask for order of pizza. So it's, uh, 1230. We'll

2361
02:54:41,540 --> 02:54:49,660
 take a lunch break. We'll be back at what 12. We'll eat here at the desk, right. Yeah.

2362
02:54:49,660 --> 02:54:59,340
 So like 1245 and welcome back to this meeting in Denton city council. It is 1253. We had,

2363
02:54:59,340 --> 02:55:05,460
 we are now to the enterprise portion of the budget discussion, or if there's anything

2364
02:55:05,460 --> 02:55:10,700
 else, we need to go back and caption and come back. So turn it over to you, Amy. All right.

2365
02:55:10,700 --> 02:55:15,380
 Uh, good afternoon, Amy Castlick. I'm now speaking to you as interim finance director.

2366
02:55:15,380 --> 02:55:20,740
 Um, I'm going to be presenting the enterprise funds, which includes the airport electric

2367
02:55:20,740 --> 02:55:27,060
 solid waste, uh, water and wastewater funds. The major source of revenue for each of these

2368
02:55:27,060 --> 02:55:33,580
 funds is generated from the customers receiving services. Um, you've previously received presentations

2369
02:55:33,580 --> 02:55:41,240
 on DME solid waste and recycling water and wastewater on July 18th, uh, airport revenues

2370
02:55:41,240 --> 02:55:47,340
 are derived primarily from land and hanger leases, as well as gas well, uh, royalties,

2371
02:55:47,340 --> 02:55:53,660
 um, all of which remain fairly flat for fiscal year 2024. Um, expenditures have increased

2372
02:55:53,660 --> 02:55:59,940
 slightly, um, due to increases in personnel costs. Um, the airport fund, uh, as you'll

2373
02:55:59,940 --> 02:56:06,140
 see is programmed to draw down reserves over the next few years. Uh, however, the airport

2374
02:56:06,140 --> 02:56:11,980
 master plan is expected to provide, um, additional insights into future use and services at the

2375
02:56:11,980 --> 02:56:17,400
 airport. Uh, in addition, the department is collaborating with the FAA and text dot to

2376
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:26,020
 secure, um, grant funding to reconstruct the primary runway. Uh, next up is, uh, the electric

2377
02:56:26,020 --> 02:56:32,540
 fund DME. Um, it assumes, um, a two and a half percent load growth in purchase power

2378
02:56:32,540 --> 02:56:38,620
 and moderate increases in personnel and operating costs. Uh, funded supplemental requests include

2379
02:56:38,620 --> 02:56:45,840
 the 2% merit increase, a SCADA network assessment, an outage coordinator, relay technician, um,

2380
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:53,000
 and then storage for equipment, um, and construction standards for voltage conversions. Uh, in

2381
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:57,240
 addition, three vehicles are proposed to be purchased from existing vehicle replacement

2382
02:56:57,240 --> 02:57:04,540
 funds. Uh, note rate increase has been included for fiscal year 2024. Um, however, we are

2383
02:57:04,540 --> 02:57:14,140
 anticipating 3% rate increases from, uh, 2025 through 2028. Um, there is also, um, an alternative

2384
02:57:14,140 --> 02:57:20,540
 option that you, uh, heard about on July 18th that would look at doing a one time increase

2385
02:57:20,540 --> 02:57:26,460
 of 12 and a half percent in 2025. Um, these increases support the fund and help to maintain

2386
02:57:26,460 --> 02:57:37,780
 required, uh, cash balance reserves. So, um, solid waste proposed, uh, expenditure budget

2387
02:57:37,780 --> 02:57:43,780
 is in line with last year's adopted budget. Uh, increases exist in personnel costs related

2388
02:57:43,780 --> 02:57:50,660
 to the, uh, comp and class study, um, cost of service transfers related to personnel,

2389
02:57:50,660 --> 02:57:57,240
 uh, and contracts that are being moved over to, um, environmental services, uh, as well

2390
02:57:57,240 --> 02:58:02,940
 as debt service. Uh, so these are offset by reductions in revenue funded capital and in

2391
02:58:02,940 --> 02:58:08,640
 vehicle replacements. Uh, funded supplemental requests again include that 2% merit increase

2392
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:14,300
 as well as a cart washing truck set to be funded from capital. Uh, we are not contemplating

2393
02:58:14,300 --> 02:58:21,500
 a rate increase, uh, until fiscal year 2026. However, um, there is a cost of service study

2394
02:58:21,500 --> 02:58:26,900
 that will be brought forward, uh, soon that could, um, change up the, the way that we're

2395
02:58:26,900 --> 02:58:33,080
 projecting, uh, rate increases in the future. Uh, in the water fund, we're projected to

2396
02:58:33,080 --> 02:58:40,060
 use more impact fees to fund capital and debt service beginning in fiscal year 2024. Uh,

2397
02:58:40,060 --> 02:58:46,700
 proposed expenditures include, uh, moderate increases in personnel and operating costs.

2398
02:58:46,700 --> 02:58:52,740
 And again, it includes that 2% merit increase. There are also six additional positions, uh,

2399
02:58:52,740 --> 02:58:59,120
 proposed for water utilities. And, um, a bit of an offset to that is that there's a shift

2400
02:58:59,120 --> 02:59:04,900
 of personnel from water, again, to the new environmental services fund. Uh, no rate increases

2401
02:59:04,900 --> 02:59:12,460
 are proposed for 2024. However, we are anticipating, uh, rate increases in the four years following

2402
02:59:12,460 --> 02:59:24,060
 that. And that is in order to meet, um, coverage requirements and reserve balance targets.

2403
02:59:24,060 --> 02:59:30,340
 Next is the wastewater fund. So when looking at the wastewater fund, which also includes

2404
02:59:30,340 --> 02:59:36,100
 drainage, proposed revenues and expenditures are just below, uh, last year's adopted budget.

2405
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:42,380
 Uh, this is due to revenue that was associated with cost participation, um, being delayed

2406
02:59:42,380 --> 02:59:50,660
 until future years and then less revenue funded capital. Um, in addition, there are, um, some

2407
02:59:50,660 --> 02:59:56,220
 changes in personnel and operating expenditures that are again, due to positions being moved

2408
02:59:56,220 --> 03:00:01,820
 over to the environmental services fund funded supplemental. In addition to the 2% merit

2409
03:00:01,820 --> 03:00:08,100
 increase, uh, there are four water reclamation operators for pecan Creek, a project manager

2410
03:00:08,100 --> 03:00:14,940
 and inspector, uh, one service truck and a hydro excavation truck. Um, so in this fund,

2411
03:00:14,940 --> 03:00:22,620
 we are proposing an 11% rate increase in 2024 with similar increases in the subsequent

2412
03:00:22,620 --> 03:00:29,260
 years. Um, based on anticipated rate increases, we are projected to meet, uh, cash balance

2413
03:00:29,260 --> 03:00:35,980
 requirements in all of the years shown and debt coverage in two of the five years. Um,

2414
03:00:35,980 --> 03:00:43,200
 I want to share with you then also our rate comparisons when looking at, uh, the wastewater

2415
03:00:43,200 --> 03:00:50,540
 residential rates. Um, so this is based on an AWWA standard, um, where we're comparing

2416
03:00:50,540 --> 03:00:55,940
 apples to apples with other utilities, uh, looking at a three quarter inch, um, on the

2417
03:00:55,940 --> 03:01:03,620
 base rate and then 8,000 gallons of consumption, uh, for wastewater. So, um, you'll see in

2418
03:01:03,620 --> 03:01:12,420
 this Louisville is proposing, um, a rate increase of 4.3% for wastewater and then Irving, um,

2419
03:01:12,420 --> 03:01:18,420
 Irving has a planned 4% rate increase as part of a five year, um, strategy that council

2420
03:01:18,420 --> 03:01:24,740
 has approved there. Um, it gives them the opportunity to raise that, but then they can

2421
03:01:24,740 --> 03:01:28,900
 go up or down based on the needs of what they're seeing in the utility. So this year they are

2422
03:01:28,900 --> 03:01:35,940
 actually anticipating increasing wastewater anywhere from five to 6%. So this is projected

2423
03:01:35,940 --> 03:01:41,620
 out at five and a half percent to show you that comparison data. Um, when looking at

2424
03:01:41,620 --> 03:01:48,700
 specifically at the city of Denton, um, our residential customers usage is about 5,040

2425
03:01:48,700 --> 03:01:54,420
 gallons. So it's a $30 average bill under the current rate. And so with the proposed

2426
03:01:54,420 --> 03:02:05,260
 rate increase, that would go up to $33 and 30 cents, um, a month on the customer bill.

2427
03:02:05,260 --> 03:02:11,820
 So we wanted to share a history of rate changes across all the utilities. Um, we haven't had

2428
03:02:11,820 --> 03:02:17,780
 a rate increase since fiscal year 2017. And in fact, we reduce the rates every year from

2429
03:02:17,780 --> 03:02:26,460
 2018 to 2021. Um, and these reductions were all while experiencing overall cost increases

2430
03:02:26,460 --> 03:02:33,240
 and the demands for services growing, um, is one of the factors that have led to, um,

2431
03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:42,220
 this 11% needed increase in wastewater. And with that, if anyone has any questions, questions

2432
03:02:42,220 --> 03:02:54,500
 for staff, Councilmember McGee. Thank you Mr. Mayor. So it looks like whatever, whatever

2433
03:02:54,500 --> 03:02:59,300
 department we're looking at some potential substantial rate increases over the course

2434
03:02:59,300 --> 03:03:07,940
 of five years, what's the general ideology behind, except before wastewater, not increasing

2435
03:03:07,940 --> 03:03:13,820
 the rates this year, but then taking significantly significant jumps next year? Why not even

2436
03:03:13,820 --> 03:03:17,660
 them out and tear them all in over the course of five years? Just what's the ideology there?

2437
03:03:17,660 --> 03:03:24,220
 Go ahead. Yeah. Well, primarily this year, the need is in wastewater. Wastewater absolutely

2438
03:03:24,220 --> 03:03:28,580
 needs that rate increase this year. So it's a matter of kind of softening out the overall

2439
03:03:28,580 --> 03:03:34,460
 rate impact on our, um, customers and really with the goal of overall avoiding great shock

2440
03:03:34,460 --> 03:03:39,620
 and making those as even as we possibly can, but knowing this year that, that the greatest

2441
03:03:39,620 --> 03:03:46,820
 need was for wastewater. But, but I will say your point is very, very valid. I asked the

2442
03:03:46,820 --> 03:03:53,380
 same question, uh, when we were reviewing the budgets millions of times. I mean, if

2443
03:03:53,380 --> 03:03:58,060
 you look at the picture, it's great news because look at all the reductions and we've kept

2444
03:03:58,060 --> 03:04:02,500
 the fee the same way. The problem is, is everything has cost us more and more staffing, everything

2445
03:04:02,500 --> 03:04:08,300
 else. We're at a pitch point right now, but all the other funds, including electric are

2446
03:04:08,300 --> 03:04:15,980
 going to have to go up in the future. And that's including solid waste as well. I guess, um,

2447
03:04:15,980 --> 03:04:21,620
 let me look at electro electric, for example, nothing this year, but we've got 3% for four

2448
03:04:21,620 --> 03:04:25,780
 consecutive years. Why not just take that 12 and divided by five and just start next

2449
03:04:25,780 --> 03:04:33,020
 year or I'm sorry, start this year. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm just, I'm just

2450
03:04:33,020 --> 03:04:37,500
 asking about the line of thinking. It doesn't, you know, council, it's coming anyway. Absolutely.

2451
03:04:37,500 --> 03:04:43,180
 Council can do that. We were, as Amy said, 11% increase is a shock for some people, uh,

2452
03:04:43,180 --> 03:04:46,300
 and it's based on how much wastewater, you know, how, how many flush toilets and all

2453
03:04:46,300 --> 03:04:51,400
 that stuff. But at the end of the day, we were trying to be careful about that big sticker

2454
03:04:51,400 --> 03:04:57,260
 shock says 11%, 3% here, 3% here, but it is coming. Yeah, it is coming. So it's really

2455
03:04:57,260 --> 03:05:02,460
 a council decision. And I guess the last thing I'll say is the reason why I'm thinking is

2456
03:05:02,460 --> 03:05:09,700
 because if we know it's coming and we phase it in a little bit slower and longer, it's

2457
03:05:09,700 --> 03:05:14,180
 less of a shock to customers. But also I'm thinking in case something catastrophic happens,

2458
03:05:14,180 --> 03:05:17,780
 we've already increased the rates a little bit slower. So we have a little bit extra

2459
03:05:17,780 --> 03:05:22,100
 in the tank. That's just my general line of thinking, but I'm, I'm obviously not necessarily

2460
03:05:22,100 --> 03:05:25,900
 advocating for anything at this point. So I appreciate the presentation. Thank you Mr.

2461
03:05:25,900 --> 03:05:26,900
 Mayor.

2462
03:05:26,900 --> 03:05:34,060
 Any other questions? Mayor Pro Tem and then, oh, Mayor Pro Tem and then councilman Harlan.

2463
03:05:34,060 --> 03:05:38,940
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, so just to the point of the conversation, can it continue a little

2464
03:05:38,940 --> 03:05:45,360
 further? Um, you know, for, for property taxes and everything we show and sales tax, we,

2465
03:05:45,360 --> 03:05:50,660
 we divided per capita per mean household per, for her, you know, was it $307,000 household

2466
03:05:50,660 --> 03:05:57,620
 or whatever. Certainly I know all the, the enterprise funds have their, their mean citizen.

2467
03:05:57,620 --> 03:06:03,100
 And so if you, if you had a purely mean average citizen with the average electric, average

2468
03:06:03,100 --> 03:06:09,360
 wastewater, average, uh, waters and solid waste, what would that average citizen be

2469
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:14,900
 looking at in terms of a combined rate with the various proposals?

2470
03:06:14,900 --> 03:06:19,080
 We can absolutely get you that information for what we're proposing in 2024. It would

2471
03:06:19,080 --> 03:06:26,300
 be on average to $3 and 30 cents for, for, for nothing. And then water is 12 or sorry,

2472
03:06:26,300 --> 03:06:32,660
 wastewater is 11. It would be $3 and 30 cents. So in general, it, it crossed the board that

2473
03:06:32,660 --> 03:06:37,040
 otherwise you'd just be splitting it out. Is that what you're saying? I mean, $3 and

2474
03:06:37,040 --> 03:06:44,620
 30 cents. I mean, anyway, yes, for, for some future table, I would, I would love to see

2475
03:06:44,620 --> 03:06:50,380
 how that average person works out. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2476
03:06:50,380 --> 03:06:56,780
 Oh good. Thank you. I knew we had it. You'll see it at the end. Thank you. I know we've

2477
03:06:56,780 --> 03:07:00,060
 calculated it. So yes.

2478
03:07:00,060 --> 03:07:06,860
 Councilman Holland. Thank you. Um, council member McGee and I were, were, were talking

2479
03:07:06,860 --> 03:07:12,180
 about comparing Denton to Lewisville and McKinney. Mayor made an excellent, excellent point about

2480
03:07:12,180 --> 03:07:17,340
 the, the, the difference in, in those communities. And I'm wondering if, if water and wastewater

2481
03:07:17,340 --> 03:07:24,540
 rates at, uh, North Texas or TWU or at the fed, uh, are, do they get, do they get a better,

2482
03:07:24,540 --> 03:07:31,140
 a better price than a John Q. Citizen?

2483
03:07:31,140 --> 03:07:38,580
 I know EDME would negotiate a rate, but water, no, it's all the same. All the same. Thank

2484
03:07:38,580 --> 03:07:47,420
 you. Okay. Um, that's been better. Councilor Watts. Well, I was just wanted to piggyback

2485
03:07:47,420 --> 03:07:57,540
 on, um, council member McGee's interest in us being more mindful to stagger out, you

2486
03:07:57,540 --> 03:08:04,340
 know, what we need. Um, in my head, I'm thinking conservatively, you know, there are some folks

2487
03:08:04,340 --> 03:08:10,700
 that are very conservative and they want to run on politically. Oh, we're not increasing

2488
03:08:10,700 --> 03:08:19,460
 your rates. Um, but in reality that does set us back when we are not being mindful to keep

2489
03:08:19,460 --> 03:08:25,220
 putting something in the, in the jar. So here we are and it's clearly evident that it's

2490
03:08:25,220 --> 03:08:32,620
 caught up with us. So I would, uh, definitely stand on the fact that, uh, we should pursue,

2491
03:08:32,620 --> 03:08:38,340
 I don't know how the, how I need to say it, but I think that we should pursue, um, staggering

2492
03:08:38,340 --> 03:08:44,740
 out and being mindful and having, you know, additional funding, uh, for catastrophic events

2493
03:08:44,740 --> 03:08:49,980
 or something like that. So that's what I just wanted to add to the, to this conversation.

2494
03:08:49,980 --> 03:08:57,860
 Okay. Councilman Watts. Thank you mayor. Uh, could, um, let's just go back to the wastewater

2495
03:08:57,860 --> 03:09:07,380
 specific slide if you could, please. Okay. Yeah. Uh, first of all, I guess, and this

2496
03:09:07,380 --> 03:09:11,460
 is more of a, I don't know if it's an accounting question or presentation question, but when

2497
03:09:11,460 --> 03:09:16,420
 I see net income or loss and I see it in brackets means that there's a loss, but yet when I

2498
03:09:16,420 --> 03:09:20,100
 look at total resources and I know we've got reserves in there and I look at total resources

2499
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:26,140
 and total expenditures, they're equal. So I know that that's, but it sort of gives like

2500
03:09:26,140 --> 03:09:33,300
 a, um, anyway, so the reserve is the net loss basically in each one of these slides. Yes.

2501
03:09:33,300 --> 03:09:38,580
 Okay. Um, all right. It's just, I guess, personal preference. So, but that raises the point of,

2502
03:09:38,580 --> 03:09:44,620
 cause several of them had use of reserves. So what, what's the line of debarkation where

2503
03:09:44,620 --> 03:09:52,300
 you're going to use reserves from the fund balance in lieu of a rate increase? In other

2504
03:09:52,300 --> 03:09:57,540
 words, you're using, of course, wastewater, you got, uh, 11%, 11%, 11% and you've got

2505
03:09:57,540 --> 03:10:01,380
 net income loss. You've got using the, the, the fund balance, but in some of the other

2506
03:10:01,380 --> 03:10:06,020
 ones like the water and some of the other ones, you use the reserve funds to make up

2507
03:10:06,020 --> 03:10:12,340
 a deficit, uh, with no rate increase. So what's the, what's the thought process on that?

2508
03:10:12,340 --> 03:10:15,940
 So I'm gonna let Cassie answer some of it, but I can tell you on one of them, particularly

2509
03:10:15,940 --> 03:10:21,020
 the airport, we shouldn't be using our reserves and we are, that's why we're doing a master

2510
03:10:21,020 --> 03:10:27,420
 plan to look at other, uh, points of revenue. Um, you really don't want to dip down into

2511
03:10:27,420 --> 03:10:30,900
 your reserves unless your reserves start getting to a point where you, you have more money

2512
03:10:30,900 --> 03:10:38,020
 than you really need to based on whether it's, um, by ordinance or whatever. So, um, I know

2513
03:10:38,020 --> 03:10:41,840
 we're getting to the end of this one. I don't know where she is. She's kinda, Matt's giving

2514
03:10:41,840 --> 03:10:46,780
 her some information, but for some, we don't even want to be dipping into our reserves,

2515
03:10:46,780 --> 03:10:56,700
 but we're having to. And I think for some of these funds, um, in the previous presentation

2516
03:10:56,700 --> 03:11:03,420
 that we showed, um, in July, we have a target fund balance that each of the utilities is

2517
03:11:03,420 --> 03:11:09,380
 trying to reach. And so when we are over those target fund balances, it's a question of do

2518
03:11:09,380 --> 03:11:15,820
 we utilize that fund balance to pay down some of those rate increases in that year or do

2519
03:11:15,820 --> 03:11:20,740
 we pay for one-time capital needs or do we raise the rates? And so what you're seeing

2520
03:11:20,740 --> 03:11:25,740
 is those are some of the trade-offs that we've made in some of these funds. Um, for electric,

2521
03:11:25,740 --> 03:11:30,700
 they were over the fund balance targets, so we're bringing that, we're using those fund

2522
03:11:30,700 --> 03:11:36,700
 balances to bring that fund balance within the target range. Wastewater was below, so

2523
03:11:36,700 --> 03:11:42,940
 that's why you're seeing the rate increase, um, of 11% in '24.

2524
03:11:42,940 --> 03:11:53,640
 So that's, the 11% is reflected in the 43.796, the revenue, 43.796. Um, okay.

2525
03:11:53,640 --> 03:11:58,820
 Some of the 12.8, I don't know if you remember, we had, we talked about that, um, developer

2526
03:11:58,820 --> 03:12:04,620
 contribution money. That's, that's part of what that was showing in the current year.

2527
03:12:04,620 --> 03:12:08,740
 We had a developer that was contributing about eight and a half million dollars to a specific

2528
03:12:08,740 --> 03:12:13,820
 project and that's what we were showing. Okay, all right. And then refresh my memory

2529
03:12:13,820 --> 03:12:23,400
 on the electric 12% rate increase for either, or 3% for four years or one, one-time 12%.

2530
03:12:23,400 --> 03:12:27,780
 Was that taking into consideration the possibility of the new campus or that's, that's excluding

2531
03:12:27,780 --> 03:12:29,620
 the new campus? That was including the new campus.

2532
03:12:29,620 --> 03:12:34,680
 So that, would you say that's pretty much the? I don't think it's all of the drive-through.

2533
03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:39,300
 It's not all of it, but it may be some of it. Yeah, no, we, we address that at the,

2534
03:12:39,300 --> 03:12:43,820
 well, are we going to talk about that? Is that a close, is that a close session item?

2535
03:12:43,820 --> 03:12:52,700
 Okay. All right. All right. Nevermind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, all right.

2536
03:12:52,700 --> 03:13:03,700
 Thank you. Okay. I guess this is more reactive. I think it's more reactive. I think it's more

2537
03:13:03,700 --> 03:13:10,260
 reaction than the question. I kind of got it for a minute that you were doing zeros

2538
03:13:10,260 --> 03:13:18,300
 on the other, uh, utilities because we're doing 11 on, uh, on wastewater because that

2539
03:13:18,300 --> 03:13:23,720
 had to be, and so it's just total pocketbook impact until I look and I see it's still going

2540
03:13:23,720 --> 03:13:28,620
 to be 10, 11, 12 for multiple years out. So I, I iterate back to saying, let's smooth

2541
03:13:28,620 --> 03:13:33,940
 it out. And no reason to just, you know, if instead of a bunch of sevens and eights, maybe

2542
03:13:33,940 --> 03:13:42,700
 we can do sixes, you know, across and get a little bit ahead. Okay. Any other questions?

2543
03:13:42,700 --> 03:13:52,620
 Councilor McGee. Thank you Mr. Mayor. So if there is consensus among us, I wouldn't mind

2544
03:13:52,620 --> 03:13:56,780
 hearing if it's helpful from the departments to see how, how this will affect them. If

2545
03:13:56,780 --> 03:14:02,820
 we, if we extended this out over, over five years rather than just some of these just

2546
03:14:02,820 --> 03:14:09,460
 hidden in four years. Councilor McGee, I can tell you that, uh, I don't want to speak for

2547
03:14:09,460 --> 03:14:14,780
 Tony, but you know, he, if we had her driven, we probably would go ahead and start increasing.

2548
03:14:14,780 --> 03:14:19,800
 So we get people in the queue doing a 3%, 3%. So it's consistent. Again, it was just the

2549
03:14:19,800 --> 03:14:26,560
 shock of, because if you look at that chart, we have not done anything. I mean, literally

2550
03:14:26,560 --> 03:14:34,980
 since 2021 we reduced, we reduced, 2020 we reduced, we reduced, 2019 reduced, 18, and

2551
03:14:34,980 --> 03:14:41,500
 the only time we raised was 2017. So when you think about it, if you're a taxpayer for

2552
03:14:41,500 --> 03:14:46,020
 all these many years and all of a sudden, wow, 11%. So we were trying to be, okay, 11%

2553
03:14:46,020 --> 03:14:52,060
 this year, but as eloquently as council member Meltzer mentioned, it's another 11 on, on

2554
03:14:52,060 --> 03:14:58,780
 that and then 10 and then 10 because the, all the other factors, cost of, the cost of

2555
03:14:58,780 --> 03:15:03,660
 doing business, the equipment, the supplies of things and everything.

2556
03:15:03,660 --> 03:15:13,780
 Okay. So I guess my plug is just to, to extend it and let's go ahead and get started then.

2557
03:15:13,780 --> 03:15:19,780
 However, I need to, to do that. Okay. Are we posting for direction on this particular

2558
03:15:19,780 --> 03:15:25,220
 part? Yeah. Are you ready for that, Mr. Mayor? Yeah, she's, yes. Okay. Well, I guess you've

2559
03:15:25,220 --> 03:15:30,860
 already got mine. So thank you. And that's for all departments if, you know, thank you,

2560
03:15:30,860 --> 03:15:31,860
 ma'am.

2561
03:15:31,860 --> 03:15:38,500
 Mayor, can I get just real quick? So for electric and water, right now we're in the heaviest

2562
03:15:38,500 --> 03:15:43,620
 usage periods. So that's one of the reasons we usually kind of wait because they'll bring

2563
03:15:43,620 --> 03:15:50,380
 in the most money during the hottest part of the year. So electric generally, we can

2564
03:15:50,380 --> 03:15:54,700
 forecast all we want, but it's still a prediction. Just like last year we predicted to have a

2565
03:15:54,700 --> 03:16:00,900
 rate increase this year. It came in much higher than what we, we anticipated. So that's why

2566
03:16:00,900 --> 03:16:09,980
 we're not bringing you a rate increase this, for FY24. I think based on the current weather,

2567
03:16:09,980 --> 03:16:15,580
 we will be okay in electric for next year without a rate increase based on the current

2568
03:16:15,580 --> 03:16:22,660
 year usage. Same with water. Wastewater is really driven by the capital plan right now.

2569
03:16:22,660 --> 03:16:28,980
 We are having to expand our wastewater infrastructure. That is expensive. The wastewater portion

2570
03:16:28,980 --> 03:16:35,860
 of your bill is a lot smaller, but that's the, that's the current need. We can definitely

2571
03:16:35,860 --> 03:16:41,860
 bring you back as we get further into the budget of how we're, how the revenues are

2572
03:16:41,860 --> 03:16:47,100
 coming in. But I, I really, I really think electric and water are probably going to be

2573
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:51,540
 fine. They won't need the rate increase next year based on the weather right now.

2574
03:16:51,540 --> 03:16:56,340
 Well, I think what Cassie, what I'm going to ask is we do some trends analysis as we

2575
03:16:56,340 --> 03:17:00,140
 give them what, where are we on current revenues for both of those funds and then trends analysis

2576
03:17:00,140 --> 03:17:04,220
 of what we see coming so that council can look at that whole picture to see what they

2577
03:17:04,220 --> 03:17:08,020
 want to do. But the other thing is for wastewater and solid waste, those are both going to have

2578
03:17:08,020 --> 03:17:12,060
 to go up. So even then we'll come back with a recommendation on that.

2579
03:17:12,060 --> 03:17:17,100
 Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you. Yeah, that's part of the reason I was

2580
03:17:17,100 --> 03:17:23,260
 asking for what is the mean. I mean, because to the extent that y'all just said, it's,

2581
03:17:23,260 --> 03:17:27,220
 you know, most of these bills are, or some of the bills are much lower. So, you know,

2582
03:17:27,220 --> 03:17:32,820
 if you've got a $400 electrical bill, then 11% is, you know, less larger than a hundred

2583
03:17:32,820 --> 03:17:40,740
 dollar wastewater bill. So I would, I'm interested in what, what is the average detonite looking

2584
03:17:40,740 --> 03:17:46,040
 at in these different models in terms of, okay, overall, you're looking at a hundred

2585
03:17:46,040 --> 03:17:50,860
 dollars a year increase or $50 a year increase or $200 a year increase, because that'll give

2586
03:17:50,860 --> 03:17:58,700
 us some perspective on how, what we're comfortable with. And then also some perspective to take

2587
03:17:58,700 --> 03:18:03,900
 back to the taxpayers, like, you know, that sounds huge, but it's, it's really not, you

2588
03:18:03,900 --> 03:18:09,980
 know, if for this fund, then, you know, and short of jumping to the end, you will see

2589
03:18:09,980 --> 03:18:14,300
 that at the end of the presentation. And, and Steven, would you say this time of the

2590
03:18:14,300 --> 03:18:18,340
 year, the last three months, you get your, your, the vast majority? Yeah. And as someone

2591
03:18:18,340 --> 03:18:26,940
 who used to work for directly for water utility, I loved a hot, dry summer. Loved it.

2592
03:18:26,940 --> 03:18:40,900
 Okay. And I had a question, I didn't write it down though. Okay. So do you have, I, I'm

2593
03:18:40,900 --> 03:18:51,780
 not in that number that wants to accelerate the, the rate for the reason you, that Cassie

2594
03:18:51,780 --> 03:19:00,140
 touched on, it's just, I want to allow for the seasons to play out those sort of things

2595
03:19:00,140 --> 03:19:06,740
 and, and see where we are and if we can avoid it, great. Because it's, it is a challenge

2596
03:19:06,740 --> 03:19:12,660
 when you, and I thank Cassie for that example, because once you straddle that line of, our

2597
03:19:12,660 --> 03:19:18,180
 recommendation says this balance and we get above that balance by a significant amount,

2598
03:19:18,180 --> 03:19:23,620
 you, do you give it back? Do you continue to grow your balance? You know, there's just,

2599
03:19:23,620 --> 03:19:30,740
 it's, it's, it's difficult to kind of level set that. And so such that we don't have to

2600
03:19:30,740 --> 03:19:37,860
 take it and we can function and, and obviously wastewater is different than I'm willing to

2601
03:19:37,860 --> 03:19:42,860
 take staff's guidance. Because remind me, we've talked about it in the past. So projections

2602
03:19:42,860 --> 03:19:49,820
 one, two years out, I mean, none of it's spot on, but fair and then you get two years out

2603
03:19:49,820 --> 03:19:55,340
 and it's, it's kind of harder. It's based on assumptions. It's based on usage assumptions.

2604
03:19:55,340 --> 03:19:59,940
 It's based on population growth assumptions. There's a lot of factors that go into it.

2605
03:19:59,940 --> 03:20:05,180
 Right. Yeah. So, so that's a challenge for me. And so I would just take staff's recommendation

2606
03:20:05,180 --> 03:20:08,740
 that, because, and then the other thing for people tracking along, that's what I was going

2607
03:20:08,740 --> 03:20:13,660
 to say, wastewater, what is that? So if I'm the lay, if I'm the lay person just kind of,

2608
03:20:13,660 --> 03:20:19,180
 I don't understand what wastewater, what calculates wastewater. Can you help me understand that

2609
03:20:19,180 --> 03:20:24,940
 from a residential, from a commercial? Yeah. Every time you flush your toilet. Okay. Got

2610
03:20:24,940 --> 03:20:30,060
 it. So if you have a leaky toilet or you're flushing your toilet or all those things,

2611
03:20:30,060 --> 03:20:35,300
 that water, water down the drain, the hand sink or no? Yes. It's anything that goes into

2612
03:20:35,300 --> 03:20:41,020
 the, into the wastewater system. Anything that leaves your house. Okay. Anything that

2613
03:20:41,020 --> 03:20:50,060
 leaves. Got it. Yes. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Councilman Watts. And, and I think an additional

2614
03:20:50,060 --> 03:20:56,580
 note on that, if I'm not mistaken, wastewater rates are determined on usage between certain

2615
03:20:56,580 --> 03:21:02,580
 months of water usage, which are the sort of off months. Is it December, January? Is

2616
03:21:02,580 --> 03:21:07,180
 it December? It's your winter months. I'm sure there's, there's dates specific within

2617
03:21:07,180 --> 03:21:11,980
 those winter months, but it's when, it's when you are not, you know, you're not irrigating.

2618
03:21:11,980 --> 03:21:17,100
 You're not using any, any, you assume to not be using any excess water. It's all in all

2619
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:22,860
 household related at that point. Okay. I guess my question on that is because I know, I think

2620
03:21:22,860 --> 03:21:28,580
 the practice is still there, that if you have a leak that's underground or cannot be seen,

2621
03:21:28,580 --> 03:21:32,920
 it's not, if your toilet's running or you got a dripping faucet that you see every day,

2622
03:21:32,920 --> 03:21:36,780
 but if you've got a sprinkler line, if you've got something that's water line busted, that

2623
03:21:36,780 --> 03:21:43,180
 you can get a, a credit based upon your average usage from the utilities, if you show that

2624
03:21:43,180 --> 03:21:51,680
 it's been fixed by a plumber, if it required a permit. And if that occurs in those months,

2625
03:21:51,680 --> 03:21:58,060
 those winter months, is that taken into consideration when they do the calculation for the wastewater?

2626
03:21:58,060 --> 03:22:03,820
 In other words, if you, if you got a leak in November that generates 30,000 gallons

2627
03:22:03,820 --> 03:22:10,320
 of waste, of water, which then goes to your wastewater, is that, is that taken into consideration

2628
03:22:10,320 --> 03:22:13,700
 if you show that it's? Good, because I can only answer from my experience

2629
03:22:13,700 --> 03:22:16,500
 with a yes, but we also now have a confirmed yes.

2630
03:22:16,500 --> 03:22:19,820
 Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So that is, that is calculated.

2631
03:22:19,820 --> 03:22:21,900
 It's not part of that calculation. Yes, that would be part of the leak adjustment

2632
03:22:21,900 --> 03:22:24,660
 if the leak occurs during your winter months averaging period.

2633
03:22:24,660 --> 03:22:33,260
 Thank you. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. People want to hear us talk about

2634
03:22:33,260 --> 03:22:36,740
 their drip. Yeah. Mayor and council, Krista Foster.

2635
03:22:36,740 --> 03:22:41,020
 Hold on, hold on, hold on. You see that? Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor.

2636
03:22:41,020 --> 03:22:43,780
 I didn't catch you. Can you explain that for council member Watson

2637
03:22:43,780 --> 03:22:47,020
 or council member Holland, what the drip is? Yeah, drip your clothes. Everyone, you know,

2638
03:22:47,020 --> 03:22:50,940
 like your clothes is your drip. So, so people want to hear you when you talk about the drip

2639
03:22:50,940 --> 03:22:58,780
 was the line. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I still, I still not sure.

2640
03:22:58,780 --> 03:23:04,620
 So when you apply for a leak adjustment, if it covered one of the winter months, then

2641
03:23:04,620 --> 03:23:09,780
 yes, we are going to adjust that as part of the average. If you have a leak that maybe

2642
03:23:09,780 --> 03:23:14,580
 it didn't qualify, you had already had two leak adjustments in a year, whatever, we will

2643
03:23:14,580 --> 03:23:16,700
 still adjust your wastewater. Okay. Good.

2644
03:23:16,700 --> 03:23:20,380
 Yeah. So we will definitely work with you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

2645
03:23:20,380 --> 03:23:30,660
 Okay. Anyone else? Any other questions, comments? Okay. So do you have -- I know there's more.

2646
03:23:30,660 --> 03:23:33,100
 Do you have what you need for this segment of things?

2647
03:23:33,100 --> 03:23:39,340
 Yes. Okay. Mayor, we'll -- we will look at just sort

2648
03:23:39,340 --> 03:23:43,620
 of kind of that trends and then as we get closer to the end of the year, you know, when

2649
03:23:43,620 --> 03:23:48,260
 you all have to vote, we'll be able to give you information about where we are on revenues

2650
03:23:48,260 --> 03:23:53,900
 for water, DME, and those kinds of things. So you can make an informed decision.

2651
03:23:53,900 --> 03:23:58,620
 So on the -- on wind arrays, that sort of thing, that will come back to us?

2652
03:23:58,620 --> 03:24:01,620
 That's correct. Okay. Great. Mayor Proctor.

2653
03:24:01,620 --> 03:24:08,580
 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. No, I'm just confused. So we're not providing

2654
03:24:08,580 --> 03:24:11,220
 direction now or you want direction now or not?

2655
03:24:11,220 --> 03:24:17,940
 You can, but I'm getting a little bit of -- I don't support it. And so I said we'd come

2656
03:24:17,940 --> 03:24:23,580
 back looking at the two funds that we know won't have, like solid waste will not have

2657
03:24:23,580 --> 03:24:31,740
 a big boatload of revenue coming in that could make a difference. And then you have wastewater.

2658
03:24:31,740 --> 03:24:37,100
 So the water and the DME is the one that we'll know our numbers, because I will tell you,

2659
03:24:37,100 --> 03:24:43,840
 we made $800,000 in one day off of DME. I'm not making it, but we generated $800,000 worth.

2660
03:24:43,840 --> 03:24:48,020
 So you're going to see the true numbers from water and water usage a little further down

2661
03:24:48,020 --> 03:24:53,620
 the line, so you can make a more informed decision about what you want to do. Wastewater,

2662
03:24:53,620 --> 03:25:00,340
 I don't know how we sell out or smooth out 11% when it's 11, 11, 10, 10, 10. And then

2663
03:25:00,340 --> 03:25:04,140
 solid waste, now that's one I think you're going to hear about and you can definitely

2664
03:25:04,140 --> 03:25:06,900
 tell us what you want to do there. Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm not going to

2665
03:25:06,900 --> 03:25:16,460
 provide direction for me until I get more information. Okay, good.

2666
03:25:16,460 --> 03:25:29,180
 All right. Well, good afternoon. My name's Matt Hamilton, interim budget manager, here

2667
03:25:29,180 --> 03:25:36,860
 to present the fiscal year 2024 capital improvement program and capital budget. So just to tell

2668
03:25:36,860 --> 03:25:43,420
 you a little bit about our capital budget process, every year in October and November,

2669
03:25:43,420 --> 03:25:49,300
 we do some pre-kickoff planning this year. We got together with the capital projects

2670
03:25:49,300 --> 03:25:55,820
 group and determined what information it was that we wanted departments to submit and how

2671
03:25:55,820 --> 03:26:02,820
 they were to submit for those projects. And then in December, we held a CIP kickoff city

2672
03:26:02,820 --> 03:26:10,180
 wide where departments were able to submit any projects that they had, both for this

2673
03:26:10,180 --> 03:26:17,180
 upcoming year as well as the four years thereafter. And so what we provided to them was just some

2674
03:26:17,180 --> 03:26:24,820
 historical capital improvement project information as a starting point. From there, the capital

2675
03:26:24,820 --> 03:26:31,960
 projects group sat down with the various departments to work through scopes and schedules and costs

2676
03:26:31,960 --> 03:26:38,780
 associated with each of these projects. And then from there, that data was put together

2677
03:26:38,780 --> 03:26:44,180
 just in an internal mapping system so that we could see where all the various departments'

2678
03:26:44,180 --> 03:26:50,800
 projects overlapped and could be better coordinated. And all that data was then given to finance

2679
03:26:50,800 --> 03:26:57,340
 for us to review for financial feasibility. And here we are today reviewing the projects

2680
03:26:57,340 --> 03:27:02,180
 that we'd like to propose to move forward with.

2681
03:27:02,180 --> 03:27:09,020
 So I know that you've seen this table probably many times, but this is the 2019 bond program

2682
03:27:09,020 --> 03:27:15,380
 issue and schedule. So we are in the fifth year of that program and are expected to issue

2683
03:27:15,380 --> 03:27:23,060
 35.6 million. That will cover street reconstruction, the neighborhood street reconstruction program,

2684
03:27:23,060 --> 03:27:31,820
 Creek Creek, sidewalks, street lighting, and also funding for Ryan Road. This was, I'll

2685
03:27:31,820 --> 03:27:37,300
 note, just originally a seven-year program, but we do intend to wrap it up next year,

2686
03:27:37,300 --> 03:27:43,220
 which would be the sixth year, so a year ahead of originally planned. This is the five-year

2687
03:27:43,220 --> 03:27:51,980
 CIP funding plan for the general government. And so this is going to include facilities,

2688
03:27:51,980 --> 03:28:01,100
 parks, traffic, fleet, drainage, as well as streets. So in total, what we are proposing

2689
03:28:01,100 --> 03:28:10,540
 is 126 million in next year's CIP. The primary driver of that number is the facility improvements

2690
03:28:10,540 --> 03:28:17,040
 that are needed, technology services improvements, as well as roadway improvements. And there's

2691
03:28:17,040 --> 03:28:22,700
 some specific projects and items on some upcoming slides.

2692
03:28:22,700 --> 03:28:30,300
 So of the 126 million, we anticipate 6.8 million will be revenue funded. That's money, operating

2693
03:28:30,300 --> 03:28:38,620
 dollars that are collected in that current year, impact fees of 3.6 million, the 35.6

2694
03:28:38,620 --> 03:28:47,620
 million from the 2019 bond election, and then 80 million in certificates of obligation.

2695
03:28:47,620 --> 03:28:57,980
 So this is a five-year overview of the utilities. And so in total, this is showing 200 million.

2696
03:28:57,980 --> 03:29:03,540
 What is not here is the wastewater line, which is 62 million. So in the presentation that

2697
03:29:03,540 --> 03:29:08,660
 you saw on July 18th with utilities, that 62 million was included. And it is included

2698
03:29:08,660 --> 03:29:13,780
 in the annual program of services book that you have there in the electronic copy. So

2699
03:29:13,780 --> 03:29:20,900
 I apologize if it's left off here. So in total, it would be 262 million.

2700
03:29:20,900 --> 03:29:30,020
 So getting into the specific departments, electric, we anticipate $93 million in new

2701
03:29:30,020 --> 03:29:36,780
 expenditure next year for CIP. Of that, 82 million would be debt issued, 69 million from

2702
03:29:36,780 --> 03:29:45,340
 operating, and 3.7 million in cost participation. These project categories and amounts for this

2703
03:29:45,340 --> 03:29:53,100
 slide in particular is just for next year that they intend to use for these. The total

2704
03:29:53,100 --> 03:30:00,900
 building construction, however, is about 75 million. So next year would be 5 million for

2705
03:30:00,900 --> 03:30:09,260
 the design. But I think if there's any questions on that specific project, we can discuss that

2706
03:30:09,260 --> 03:30:17,920
 in a closed session. So for water, new capital appropriations

2707
03:30:17,920 --> 03:30:25,220
 of 96 million. We do anticipate 82 million of that to be debt funded. 7.9 million coming

2708
03:30:25,220 --> 03:30:31,140
 from operating revenues and 5 million in cost participation. Some of the major projects

2709
03:30:31,140 --> 03:30:36,980
 and what you'll see on this slide and the subsequent slides are the fiscal years in

2710
03:30:36,980 --> 03:30:42,500
 which these projects will take place. So the 14 million for the automated meter reading

2711
03:30:42,500 --> 03:30:50,420
 replacement, that 14 million is the total cost of the project over these fiscal years.

2712
03:30:50,420 --> 03:30:58,100
 So meter reading is one of the larger projects. Elm and Locust Phase 2 replacing the water

2713
03:30:58,100 --> 03:31:05,360
 lines there. Lake Louisville raw water treatment transmission line. The Ray Roberts plant capacity

2714
03:31:05,360 --> 03:31:12,980
 rerate and performance upgrades. The plant disinfection conversion as well as 27.2 million

2715
03:31:12,980 --> 03:31:20,120
 in total to supplement the 2019 bond election projects to replace the water lines associated

2716
03:31:20,120 --> 03:31:31,260
 with those street projects. So wastewater, new appropriations of 61.3 million. 55.9 is

2717
03:31:31,260 --> 03:31:37,960
 anticipated to be issued in new debt with -- excuse me, 2.8 million from operating revenues

2718
03:31:37,960 --> 03:31:48,320
 and 2.5 million from a dedicated vehicle fund. So the largest project from now through fiscal

2719
03:31:48,320 --> 03:31:57,820
 year 2028 is the concrete plant expansion. They also have the concrete plant headworks,

2720
03:31:57,820 --> 03:32:05,220
 the oversized participation and, again, supplement to the 2019 bond election in the amount of

2721
03:32:05,220 --> 03:32:16,980
 22 million. For solid waste, we anticipate 10.6 million in new appropriation. Of that,

2722
03:32:16,980 --> 03:32:24,620
 7.8 would be debt issuance and 3.5 million from operating revenues. The major projects

2723
03:32:24,620 --> 03:32:31,940
 include cell 5 and 6 construction, expansion of the home chemical collection storage capacity,

2724
03:32:31,940 --> 03:32:42,260
 as well as vehicles and additions to their solid waste fleet. Facilities, we do anticipate

2725
03:32:42,260 --> 03:32:50,620
 24.8 million in new appropriations this year or upcoming year. And of that amount, all

2726
03:32:50,620 --> 03:32:58,040
 of it would be debt funded. The major projects over the next five years include the facility

2727
03:32:58,040 --> 03:33:02,460
 condition deferred maintenance, which are maintenance items that were identified in

2728
03:33:02,460 --> 03:33:10,260
 the facility condition assessment. Facility capital maintenance, which are current maintenance

2729
03:33:10,260 --> 03:33:18,260
 items and items that we know are coming up on their end of life. 4.8 million in facility

2730
03:33:18,260 --> 03:33:26,900
 ADA upgrades and 27 million for the service center renovation, which is just the general

2731
03:33:26,900 --> 03:33:35,540
 fund portion of that project. The total project is approximately 40 million, so 7 million

2732
03:33:35,540 --> 03:33:40,740
 would come from both the water and wastewater departments each, and those have been budgeted

2733
03:33:40,740 --> 03:33:51,380
 in their respective budgets. Technology services, we anticipate 17.5 million. New capital appropriations

2734
03:33:51,380 --> 03:33:58,020
 next year, all of that would be debt funded. The major projects include citywide fiber

2735
03:33:58,020 --> 03:34:05,140
 replacement, asset management software, CAD, RMS replacement, infrastructure replacement,

2736
03:34:05,140 --> 03:34:17,020
 and new land management software. For fleet, we're proposing 9.68 million in

2737
03:34:17,020 --> 03:34:24,460
 new capital appropriations. All of that would also be CEO debt issuance. The major projects

2738
03:34:24,460 --> 03:34:32,340
 include the addition of equipment and furnishings for the new fleet expansion, 22.1 million

2739
03:34:32,340 --> 03:34:39,260
 in vehicle replacements, and 1.5 million, which is just for this upcoming year in vehicle

2740
03:34:39,260 --> 03:34:47,220
 additions. Parks and recreation, new capital appropriations

2741
03:34:47,220 --> 03:34:55,740
 next year of 7.56 million, 2 million of which would be debt issuance, 1.1 from operating,

2742
03:34:55,740 --> 03:35:03,980
 4.3 million from other dedicated funding sources such as grants, donations, or our internal

2743
03:35:03,980 --> 03:35:11,900
 land development funds that we have for parks. So the major projects over the next five years

2744
03:35:11,900 --> 03:35:20,980
 include some arts and culture. Quite a bit of that is hot funded and funded from some

2745
03:35:20,980 --> 03:35:29,280
 other sources. Aquatic improvements of 15.9 million, which are some improvements, especially

2746
03:35:29,280 --> 03:35:35,500
 to the Waterworks Park in years four and five that we know are upcoming. Playground improvements

2747
03:35:35,500 --> 03:35:43,380
 of 2.7 million, and we replace about three playgrounds a year. And then park development

2748
03:35:43,380 --> 03:35:51,220
 and land acquisition for 5.2 million, and I'll just note in this category, the 5.2 million

2749
03:35:51,220 --> 03:35:56,240
 is primarily park development, so land that we've already acquired, but it's the master

2750
03:35:56,240 --> 03:36:03,860
 plans to develop those parks. Public works, we're anticipating 26.1 million

2751
03:36:03,860 --> 03:36:10,020
 in new capital appropriations. The full amount would be debt issued. These are the major

2752
03:36:10,020 --> 03:36:18,020
 projects that are driving this number. So Bonnie Bray, both phases 4B and 5, we did

2753
03:36:18,020 --> 03:36:26,020
 add 5.5 million for the McKinney sidewalk project. This is the only addition to the

2754
03:36:26,020 --> 03:36:32,580
 CIP from when you saw it on June 27th. And then traffic improvements for 2.3 million

2755
03:36:32,580 --> 03:36:42,340
 and drainage improvements of 1.3 million. Any questions on the capital improvement program?

2756
03:36:42,340 --> 03:36:49,540
 Yeah, I just -- going back to the last slide, help me understand -- I know we talked about

2757
03:36:49,540 --> 03:36:56,300
 it, but what's the direction going forward on the McKinney sidewalks? Because when I

2758
03:36:56,300 --> 03:37:00,380
 looked at the map after our conversation, you drop down a block going towards downtown,

2759
03:37:00,380 --> 03:37:05,820
 you can walk up -- you can walk Hickory, I think that's right, sidewalks all the way.

2760
03:37:05,820 --> 03:37:11,820
 And then going the other way towards the loop, if that's the concern, because the loop already

2761
03:37:11,820 --> 03:37:17,600
 has sidewalk, then you can drop down to potentially Dutchess if we punch that through, and that

2762
03:37:17,600 --> 03:37:25,420
 takes you to the loop, to sidewalk to go north-south on the loop. And there's not as busy road

2763
03:37:25,420 --> 03:37:29,300
 as trying to acquire it right away and all of the things that the challenges with McKinney.

2764
03:37:29,300 --> 03:37:37,020
 So what is that identified to do? Sure. So Trevor Crane, director of capital

2765
03:37:37,020 --> 03:37:41,180
 projects. So we still have the opportunity to look at all those options that you're talking

2766
03:37:41,180 --> 03:37:48,020
 about. This 5.5 is really specific to buying that right-of-way and completing those sections

2767
03:37:48,020 --> 03:37:53,420
 of sidewalk along McKinney that aren't currently there. It's going to have to be done one way

2768
03:37:53,420 --> 03:38:01,280
 or the other. We're looking at putting that McKinney full right-of-way street project

2769
03:38:01,280 --> 03:38:06,560
 into the next bond coming up. And so these sidewalks are going to have to either be done

2770
03:38:06,560 --> 03:38:11,420
 now or included in that project moving forward. And so we still have every opportunity to

2771
03:38:11,420 --> 03:38:15,100
 kind of look through those other options that you're talking about. But we wanted to go

2772
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:19,100
 ahead and put this into capital projects to start looking at acquiring that right-of-way

2773
03:38:19,100 --> 03:38:24,920
 and completing that full width sidewalks that is going to be needed at some point moving

2774
03:38:24,920 --> 03:38:32,060
 forward. Okay. So and what's the -- remind me, range

2775
03:38:32,060 --> 03:38:37,380
 of sidewalk -- because I just don't know that there's -- I just didn't do the math in my

2776
03:38:37,380 --> 03:38:42,460
 head to say $5 million worth of sidewalk going from where to where.

2777
03:38:42,460 --> 03:38:48,100
 Sure. So we looked at a map. There's probably about -- if we include both sides of the sidewalk

2778
03:38:48,100 --> 03:38:55,020
 or both sides of the street between Woodrow to Loop 28, there's about 13 properties where

2779
03:38:55,020 --> 03:38:58,260
 there's gaps in that sidewalk. So there's a lot of places where the developers have

2780
03:38:58,260 --> 03:39:04,700
 already come in. They put in sidewalk at the correct spot. So we would just need to connect

2781
03:39:04,700 --> 03:39:11,980
 those pieces. The majority of that 5.5 is going to be right-of-way acquisition to fill

2782
03:39:11,980 --> 03:39:16,860
 in those gaps. So like I mentioned, you know, that right-of-way is going to have to be acquired

2783
03:39:16,860 --> 03:39:20,180
 one way or the other. Either we're going to buy it when we come in and do the ultimate

2784
03:39:20,180 --> 03:39:25,340
 street section or we can start looking at it now to get that property and fill in those

2785
03:39:25,340 --> 03:39:32,520
 sidewalk sections. Okay. And that's everything on the street

2786
03:39:32,520 --> 03:39:43,540
 portion. Then on the parks portion, just a note on the aquatics improvements. Are we

2787
03:39:43,540 --> 03:39:51,220
 capturing more from Denton ISD or are we in discussions with them? Because that seems

2788
03:39:51,220 --> 03:40:01,100
 to be the usage or calibration thereof and recoup. There's -- you know, I'm always sensitive

2789
03:40:01,100 --> 03:40:06,220
 when other governmental entities generate more emails from me. I'm just selfish that way.

2790
03:40:06,220 --> 03:40:10,300
 Like I'm not excited about that at all. Right? Like I don't go to your meetings, don't come

2791
03:40:10,300 --> 03:40:16,700
 to my meetings. Right? I mean, you with me? So I just want to understand. We have a plan

2792
03:40:16,700 --> 03:40:25,940
 going forward. Yes. Okay. And that is we do have line items

2793
03:40:25,940 --> 03:40:34,720
 in the budget where we anticipate that partnership and relationship and revenue for these aquatic

2794
03:40:34,720 --> 03:40:46,380
 improvements and so it has been factored in. This is above and beyond what I think that

2795
03:40:46,380 --> 03:40:49,300
 that would contribute. Certainly. Yes. Just want to make sure those

2796
03:40:49,300 --> 03:40:53,780
 conversations are ongoing and that we're right sizing that to -- yes.

2797
03:40:53,780 --> 03:40:58,860
 Yep. Perfect. Okay. Any other questions?

2798
03:40:58,860 --> 03:41:05,180
 Councilman Watts. A couple of questions. I'm going to start

2799
03:41:05,180 --> 03:41:11,060
 backwards so I can remember. So on the aquatics, I did remember getting some correspondence

2800
03:41:11,060 --> 03:41:19,300
 about some concerns about ISD, practice schedules, school -- and that's all great. I just want

2801
03:41:19,300 --> 03:41:24,900
 to make sure that we're not having to spend all this money so that we can give our citizens

2802
03:41:24,900 --> 03:41:31,420
 an opportunity to have the same access to these water facilities and that if we are

2803
03:41:31,420 --> 03:41:40,180
 improving access for our partners and capacity, is that reflected somewhere in a contribution

2804
03:41:40,180 --> 03:41:47,740
 not just of, you know -- because I know the contract says for the -- an editorial that

2805
03:41:47,740 --> 03:41:54,100
 we split costs. I know for the water park we split costs and we split the revenue, which

2806
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:59,100
 is really -- so on the -- on the natatorium, our current contract is I think we split it

2807
03:41:59,100 --> 03:42:02,700
 all 50/50. Is that right? That's right.

2808
03:42:02,700 --> 03:42:06,980
 With this new -- with these new improvements that do improve -- I think it's called flat

2809
03:42:06,980 --> 03:42:16,020
 water. Do you guys call it flat water? Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Is there a similar

2810
03:42:16,020 --> 03:42:23,700
 opportunity for that? Because that will expand opportunity even if we said we're going to

2811
03:42:23,700 --> 03:42:28,900
 move a lot of our citizen programs over to the new flat water. It opens up more programming

2812
03:42:28,900 --> 03:42:35,300
 for our partners in the current natatorium. Is that factored in here anyway?

2813
03:42:35,300 --> 03:42:39,740
 Yeah. I would try to answer your question a few different times, different ways. Gary

2814
03:42:39,740 --> 03:42:44,300
 Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation. So keep in mind the natatorium was built for

2815
03:42:44,300 --> 03:42:50,060
 Denton when we had two high schools. So we're fitting more students into the same building

2816
03:42:50,060 --> 03:42:56,340
 and we've added water polo to it. So now everyone's trying to get including our residents those

2817
03:42:56,340 --> 03:43:03,220
 sweet time -- sweet pinpoint times in regards to before work, after work, after dinner type

2818
03:43:03,220 --> 03:43:08,460
 thing. Everyone's trying to get the same time. So we do not have enough flat water to satisfy

2819
03:43:08,460 --> 03:43:13,020
 a lot of our programs. So that's the first challenge. Recently what's occurred is we've

2820
03:43:13,020 --> 03:43:19,020
 had some infrastructure failure that we're dealing with that's created that pinch point

2821
03:43:19,020 --> 03:43:22,780
 even more. Because we're only be able to open up in the mornings because of the high temperatures

2822
03:43:22,780 --> 03:43:26,500
 we have to close the other day when I'm not air circulation. So that's another challenge

2823
03:43:26,500 --> 03:43:32,460
 that we're working through and hopefully that gets resolved next week. But truthfully we

2824
03:43:32,460 --> 03:43:39,500
 need another facility, indoor facility, to really satisfy the entire community, both

2825
03:43:39,500 --> 03:43:45,580
 schools and the students, from an indoor perspective. Now on the bond program we have some outdoor

2826
03:43:45,580 --> 03:43:49,060
 improvements that are much needed as well considering that whole facility was built

2827
03:43:49,060 --> 03:43:55,220
 the same time. There is some flat water, outdoor flat water that's a component to that, that

2828
03:43:55,220 --> 03:44:00,180
 will give us additional flat water space for programming so we can kind of alleviate some

2829
03:44:00,180 --> 03:44:05,420
 of that pressure in the short term as well as it provides some swimming on the shoulder

2830
03:44:05,420 --> 03:44:09,980
 seasons of the summer that we could use for programming as well.

2831
03:44:09,980 --> 03:44:16,220
 Sure, and I appreciate that answer and so my question boils down to I understand that

2832
03:44:16,220 --> 03:44:24,260
 our community has grown and the school district has exploded. So I just would, to be quite

2833
03:44:24,260 --> 03:44:29,020
 candid, I'm not sure why the school district doesn't look at building its own facility

2834
03:44:29,020 --> 03:44:35,020
 and why we're talking about if we're adding flat water at our expense, are they participating

2835
03:44:35,020 --> 03:44:36,020
 in this at all?

2836
03:44:36,020 --> 03:44:40,380
 Yeah, so those conversations are ongoing with both DISD and UNT to try to figure out how

2837
03:44:40,380 --> 03:44:46,420
 we can, we all have challenges that we need for space and how we could accomplish those

2838
03:44:46,420 --> 03:44:48,340
 throughout teamwork in cooperation.

2839
03:44:48,340 --> 03:44:57,060
 So not to discourage participation and partnerships. I don't want to run in, I won't be answering

2840
03:44:57,060 --> 03:45:00,900
 the question. Twenty years from now somebody's going to be sitting in this seat wondering

2841
03:45:00,900 --> 03:45:06,220
 oh, we built this together with somebody else. Well, now we're out of space and time and

2842
03:45:06,220 --> 03:45:11,700
 why aren't these, I just think sometimes partnerships are great, but also we need to make sure that

2843
03:45:11,700 --> 03:45:18,220
 number one, it's equitable and number two, that everybody's bearing the same cost. It's

2844
03:45:18,220 --> 03:45:22,900
 just been a very difficult stretch and I didn't know we had the contract with an auditorium

2845
03:45:22,900 --> 03:45:26,820
 for 50 years. I thought it was like, I thought it expired in the '20s. I thought it expired

2846
03:45:26,820 --> 03:45:33,220
 in this decade. So I just want to make sure that the city taxpayers aren't going to necessarily

2847
03:45:33,220 --> 03:45:39,540
 be covering a lot of the additional expense for flat water so we can get access to facilities

2848
03:45:39,540 --> 03:45:44,940
 that we're in partnership with because our partner has a greater need for that programming

2849
03:45:44,940 --> 03:45:46,780
 space. That's all I'm saying.

2850
03:45:46,780 --> 03:45:52,460
 So I will say this, I'm going to have a meeting with Jamie, I meet with him on a regular basis.

2851
03:45:52,460 --> 03:45:57,980
 It's true, if we're going to add flat water and they've added water polo, so it's taking

2852
03:45:57,980 --> 03:46:03,940
 up more time in that facility that should be for citizens. I'm going to ask him to meet

2853
03:46:03,940 --> 03:46:09,620
 me at the table to look at how they can provide funding to pay for some of the flat water,

2854
03:46:09,620 --> 03:46:15,780
 but also we've got to look at this together about the future of aquatics. If they're going

2855
03:46:15,780 --> 03:46:21,300
 to keep, they're adding high schools and middle schools, we're going to have to either jointly

2856
03:46:21,300 --> 03:46:26,660
 pay for an addition or another facility or something, but there comes a point when it's

2857
03:46:26,660 --> 03:46:30,140
 fine for the agreement you have now with two high schools, but when you start adding more

2858
03:46:30,140 --> 03:46:36,420
 high schools and more sports, then it negates what that agreement is. So I'm going to have

2859
03:46:36,420 --> 03:46:41,380
 that conversation. And we get along great, we'll work it out.

2860
03:46:41,380 --> 03:46:46,940
 So I've just got a couple more questions, Mayor. So if we can go back to the slide that

2861
03:46:46,940 --> 03:46:59,700
 shows all the street projects, what slide is that? I think it's slide 33. And I only

2862
03:46:59,700 --> 03:47:03,820
 use this as an illustration, don't really have a specific question about this. I only

2863
03:47:03,820 --> 03:47:09,740
 use this as an illustration on my comments earlier about a $1 million street fund, that

2864
03:47:09,740 --> 03:47:15,700
 even if you were adding $5 million a year to a street fund, look at the totals down

2865
03:47:15,700 --> 03:47:22,020
 there. I mean, so anyway, then the next one, the last one is help me understand because

2866
03:47:22,020 --> 03:47:29,220
 I've never quite got this. I'm looking in our program services manual or worksheet booklet,

2867
03:47:29,220 --> 03:47:36,260
 page 49. And it's the FY '24 proposed annual program service. It's the big, it's the big

2868
03:47:36,260 --> 03:47:44,420
 thing. It's the all comprehensive both for resources and expenditures. So we always talk

2869
03:47:44,420 --> 03:47:50,060
 about how big our budget is 1.8 billion. So I'm looking at capital improvement program,

2870
03:47:50,060 --> 03:47:56,940
 which is a lion's share of a lot of that. Yes. So for instance, in this particular these

2871
03:47:56,940 --> 03:48:02,060
 slides, we show a five year CIP expenditure and funding. And this is I guess general government

2872
03:48:02,060 --> 03:48:10,100
 general fund, so forth and so on of 126 million is proposed for 2024. And then the five year

2873
03:48:10,100 --> 03:48:16,900
 utility CIP expenditure on slide 35 of the presentation is 200 million 323. And those

2874
03:48:16,900 --> 03:48:23,140
 are two separate, you got the 126 and the 2 million 323. Correct. So that those those

2875
03:48:23,140 --> 03:48:29,500
 numbers are reflected in that capital improvement program figure of 926 million. Is that correct?

2876
03:48:29,500 --> 03:48:36,200
 Correct. So now give me the relationship between that number and the FY 2023 adopted number

2877
03:48:36,200 --> 03:48:41,580
 of seven because those two don't add. I mean, if I just add 303 million or 300 million to

2878
03:48:41,580 --> 03:48:47,820
 738, that doesn't get me 926. So apparently somebody gets paid off. I just need to understand

2879
03:48:47,820 --> 03:48:53,060
 the relationship on how all this works from a capital improvement program because we're

2880
03:48:53,060 --> 03:49:02,480
 not spending $920 million in 2024. That's correct. So from a budget process perspective,

2881
03:49:02,480 --> 03:49:11,340
 we have to budget as if every dollar would be expended. And in that 930 I'm sorry, $929

2882
03:49:11,340 --> 03:49:19,980
 million number, two thirds of that is existing funding. Right. So we have to appropriate

2883
03:49:19,980 --> 03:49:26,100
 for those dollars. Okay. So as dollars are spent throughout the year, and depending on

2884
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:34,100
 how much is spent, then that number plus what we are proposing here would get us to 920.

2885
03:49:34,100 --> 03:49:40,420
 So that number represents last year's number less any payoffs and anything that we still

2886
03:49:40,420 --> 03:49:48,660
 have budgeted to spend, in essence. Correct. If you turn to page 111, don't tell me I didn't

2887
03:49:48,660 --> 03:49:55,780
 read all the way through or that, you know, you make me look bad. I just missed it. You

2888
03:49:55,780 --> 03:50:01,980
 didn't give Matt any of the tough questions. So you saved them all for me. Page 111 outlines

2889
03:50:01,980 --> 03:50:06,500
 all the different funding sources and the difference between what's already been appropriated

2890
03:50:06,500 --> 03:50:12,700
 versus new appropriations. Fantastic. You know what, that's on me and that's good. I

2891
03:50:12,700 --> 03:50:17,580
 appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Thank

2892
03:50:17,580 --> 03:50:25,220
 you, Cassie. Okay. Any other questions? Mayor Pro Tem? And then Councilman McGee. I thought

2893
03:50:25,220 --> 03:50:29,980
 I understood the aquatics funding, but let me just real briefly, because I'm not sure

2894
03:50:29,980 --> 03:50:39,940
 I do anymore after all the conversation. The $16 million in the budget is our projected

2895
03:50:39,940 --> 03:50:48,700
 expenditures over the next year, but there's additional projected expenditures from DISD.

2896
03:50:48,700 --> 03:50:57,980
 So let me go back to the parks. Or is that the total projected expenditures? This is

2897
03:50:57,980 --> 03:51:05,100
 the total expenditure over the period 2024 through 2020. So it is not just next year.

2898
03:51:05,100 --> 03:51:11,760
 Okay. And yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, but does this include the DISD part? No. Okay.

2899
03:51:11,760 --> 03:51:17,020
 So over that same four-year period, there would be some additional contribution from

2900
03:51:17,020 --> 03:51:22,260
 the school district. There would be. So what's reflected here in the expenditure budget is

2901
03:51:22,260 --> 03:51:32,060
 our ability to expend those dollars. It's not a net number. So we don't take the DISD

2902
03:51:32,060 --> 03:51:38,100
 portion and then our portion and net them together. This is just what we would need

2903
03:51:38,100 --> 03:51:47,380
 to expend in our budget. So it is not in the capital budget. Yes. And again, getting back

2904
03:51:47,380 --> 03:51:54,420
 to some of the other questions, are the open public times and the program times for school

2905
03:51:54,420 --> 03:52:03,700
 districts, is that ratio reflected in the total? So the operations, that's a scheduling

2906
03:52:03,700 --> 03:52:09,180
 question, correct? Essentially, yes. Yeah. So we're trying to shoehorn as much time as

2907
03:52:09,180 --> 03:52:14,060
 we can. I'll have to follow up with you and give you an exact breakdown of hours and lanes

2908
03:52:14,060 --> 03:52:19,820
 in regards to how much is being used for both the public and the schools. I don't have that

2909
03:52:19,820 --> 03:52:23,420
 off the top of my head. But we're trying to balance it. At certain times of the year,

2910
03:52:23,420 --> 03:52:32,980
 it's heavier on the schools and as a community. But it's an ongoing challenge. Okay. All right.

2911
03:52:32,980 --> 03:52:38,020
 Some of the lines of questioning just got, I thought I had it. So thank you for that

2912
03:52:38,020 --> 03:52:41,820
 clarification. I appreciate it. A lot of the numbers that are shown here also are the water

2913
03:52:41,820 --> 03:52:47,860
 park side of improvements as well with renovations to that facility. And this is over a four

2914
03:52:47,860 --> 03:52:51,640
 or five year period too. So it's not just next year. When we get, and I know we always

2915
03:52:51,640 --> 03:52:59,100
 get to the more granular budgeting further on in the process. But if we could put into

2916
03:52:59,100 --> 03:53:04,660
 perspective the total scheduling and operating budget, our portions, their portions, the

2917
03:53:04,660 --> 03:53:10,620
 water park, the auditoriums, just so that we can kind of get a feel for those various

2918
03:53:10,620 --> 03:53:14,700
 ratios, even if the numbers are going to change during negotiations, even if we're going to

2919
03:53:14,700 --> 03:53:20,060
 charge them programming rates for water polar or whatever it is y'all end up doing. Just

2920
03:53:20,060 --> 03:53:26,380
 so that we understand, you know, and it very well could be that we're like, you know what,

2921
03:53:26,380 --> 03:53:31,780
 this is a community good. We'll eat this portion of the cost in order to have something for

2922
03:53:31,780 --> 03:53:35,420
 the community. But I think we still need to put that into perspective.

2923
03:53:35,420 --> 03:53:40,020
 Yeah. DISD for instance, they make certain improvements to the facility that is quote

2924
03:53:40,020 --> 03:53:44,220
 unquote their half that they contribute when that was originally built. So there's kind

2925
03:53:44,220 --> 03:53:48,540
 of an outline of how those improvements are made to the facility itself.

2926
03:53:48,540 --> 03:53:51,460
 I appreciate it. That's all my questions, Mr. Mayor. Thank you.

2927
03:53:51,460 --> 03:53:52,460
 Okay. Councilman McGee.

2928
03:53:52,460 --> 03:53:58,060
 Wait, Gary, before you leave, I haven't heard anyone just talk about the raw numbers of

2929
03:53:58,060 --> 03:54:00,620
 DISD students versus residents.

2930
03:54:00,620 --> 03:54:04,700
 Yeah. I'll have to get an answer to that. How many?

2931
03:54:04,700 --> 03:54:09,340
 Okay. I heard you talk about land usage and times. I'm just talking about bodies. So,

2932
03:54:09,340 --> 03:54:10,340
 okay.

2933
03:54:10,340 --> 03:54:11,340
 Yeah.

2934
03:54:11,340 --> 03:54:16,060
 Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I just have a quick question for Stephen, if you don't mind. Looking

2935
03:54:16,060 --> 03:54:22,820
 at some of the major projects, with respect to those that are multi-year, are you going

2936
03:54:22,820 --> 03:54:26,820
 to be breaking those down evenly among the years or are some years going to hit us a

2937
03:54:26,820 --> 03:54:31,700
 little harder, a little less, like, you know, for example, is that going to be seven and

2938
03:54:31,700 --> 03:54:34,660
 seven or 10 and four? Just generally.

2939
03:54:34,660 --> 03:54:35,660
 I would say that-

2940
03:54:35,660 --> 03:54:36,660
 Waste water too, of course.

2941
03:54:36,660 --> 03:54:40,460
 On the wastewater side, when we get into construction, that's when we're going to see a lot of dollars

2942
03:54:40,460 --> 03:54:47,140
 spent. The lighter years are when we're in the design phase, if that answers your question.

2943
03:54:47,140 --> 03:54:54,940
 So the upfront or the initial phases of the project, it's a lower spend, but as you launch

2944
03:54:54,940 --> 03:54:58,100
 into construction, your spend goes up significantly.

2945
03:54:58,100 --> 03:54:59,100
 And that's true with all of them?

2946
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:00,100
 Yes, sir.

2947
03:55:00,100 --> 03:55:01,100
 Okay. So, basically, they're all going to be backloaded?

2948
03:55:01,100 --> 03:55:02,100
 Okay.

2949
03:55:02,100 --> 03:55:03,100
 Essentially.

2950
03:55:03,100 --> 03:55:04,100
 Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2951
03:55:04,100 --> 03:55:13,460
 Any other, Steve, why are you there? I have a question. Why are you there? And this has,

2952
03:55:13,460 --> 03:55:18,940
 it's budget related, but not directly numbers. So how much wastewater are we talking about

2953
03:55:18,940 --> 03:55:22,500
 in the city? And then how much of that is able to be re-reused?

2954
03:55:22,500 --> 03:55:26,900
 That's a complicated question.

2955
03:55:26,900 --> 03:55:33,020
 Right now, the plant capacity is roughly 21 million gallons a day. Our average flows are

2956
03:55:33,020 --> 03:55:38,260
 right around 17 million gallons a day. We have an authorization. It's what we call a

2957
03:55:38,260 --> 03:55:44,260
 210 authorization through TCEQ. We can reuse up to 6 million gallons a day. We're currently

2958
03:55:44,260 --> 03:55:52,220
 only reusing about one-tenth of that through, I believe, Oakmont is our largest user. And

2959
03:55:52,220 --> 03:55:56,140
 if you recall, we talked about having our, doing our long-term strategic plans, doing

2960
03:55:56,140 --> 03:56:01,540
 our master plans. One of those master plans is a reclaimed water master plan. And what

2961
03:56:01,540 --> 03:56:05,480
 that's going to do, it's going to look at our existing reclaimed water system, our potential

2962
03:56:05,480 --> 03:56:11,740
 to connect to that system and more fully leverage that resource. Did that answer your question?

2963
03:56:11,740 --> 03:56:18,820
 It does. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Any other questions for staff? Seeing none.

2964
03:56:18,820 --> 03:56:25,860
 Okay. One second. Council Member McGee.

2965
03:56:25,860 --> 03:56:32,140
 Perhaps you don't need to get up, but is it fair to say that by 2028, we'll be fully using

2966
03:56:32,140 --> 03:56:37,020
 as much reclaimed water as possible, just generally, after these improvements are made?

2967
03:56:37,020 --> 03:56:43,500
 It depends. Steven Gade, Director of Water Utilities. It really does depend because with

2968
03:56:43,500 --> 03:56:48,060
 this plant expansion that we're going through right now, adding that 5 million gallons,

2969
03:56:48,060 --> 03:56:53,900
 we have every intention of approaching TCEQ for what they call bed and banks permit. So

2970
03:56:53,900 --> 03:56:59,700
 what that allows us to do is take the discharge from that plant and put it into a bank, so

2971
03:56:59,700 --> 03:57:04,900
 a waterway, and we'll go into Lake Louisville, and then we can reclaim that as potable water.

2972
03:57:04,900 --> 03:57:09,460
 So we'll retreat it, and that's what happens with all the wastewater facilities along in

2973
03:57:09,460 --> 03:57:16,220
 Texas. That's what they do. They discharge to a waterway. It blends with surface water,

2974
03:57:16,220 --> 03:57:22,780
 and then it's treated for drinking water. So that's part of the strategy. Reusing the

2975
03:57:22,780 --> 03:57:27,540
 water from like indirect and for irrigation uses is part of the strategy, but when we

2976
03:57:27,540 --> 03:57:33,900
 get that additional 5 million, we'll also petition to increase our allocation for that

2977
03:57:33,900 --> 03:57:39,060
 indirect. So we have 6 million right now. We're going to ask for another 5 million,

2978
03:57:39,060 --> 03:57:43,260
 but that wastewater or the reclaimed water master plan is actually going to inform all

2979
03:57:43,260 --> 03:57:48,940
 of that. So it's going to look for those opportunities to see if we can actually leverage all of

2980
03:57:48,940 --> 03:57:53,700
 that. It's our hope. It's our intent to use every single drop of reclaimed water we can

2981
03:57:53,700 --> 03:57:54,700
 possibly use.

2982
03:57:54,700 --> 03:57:59,340
 Thank you, Mr. Merritt. Thank you, Stephen. I'm done. I promise.

2983
03:57:59,340 --> 03:58:06,220
 That's good. I beat up on Denton High a little bit, but I should celebrate them playing Marco

2984
03:58:06,220 --> 03:58:10,780
 Polo in high school. That's good. I was really good at that game, but I'd always say every

2985
03:58:10,780 --> 03:58:16,100
 now and again, it's going to call for fish out of water. Is that what they're playing,

2986
03:58:16,100 --> 03:58:17,100
 Marco Polo?

2987
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:19,140
 I don't know. Water polo.

2988
03:58:19,140 --> 03:58:26,060
 Oh, water polo. Never mind. Never mind. Different game. Okay.

2989
03:58:26,060 --> 03:58:33,220
 Before we move on, I just want to recognize that was Matt's first presentation to council,

2990
03:58:33,220 --> 03:58:38,220
 and he did a great job.

2991
03:58:38,220 --> 03:58:39,220
 Yes, he did great.

2992
03:58:39,220 --> 03:58:46,540
 He did leave me with the bad news because I get stuck showing you the debt tax break.

2993
03:58:46,540 --> 03:58:52,940
 We talked about this in June, but since we finalized our debt sale numbers in July, the

2994
03:58:52,940 --> 03:58:58,260
 tax rate portion or the debt tax portion, we finalized it slightly higher than what

2995
03:58:58,260 --> 03:59:06,940
 I showed in June, so 20.5 cents and still increasing in 25, about two and a half cents

2996
03:59:06,940 --> 03:59:18,240
 based on the projected debt sale in the capital program. If you don't have any questions about

2997
03:59:18,240 --> 03:59:22,540
 the debt portion of the tax rate, we'll move on to internal service funds.

2998
03:59:22,540 --> 03:59:30,540
 I do have one thing I want to talk about because your note was interesting in discussing the

2999
03:59:30,540 --> 03:59:35,840
 pending bond program, but I don't know how much predictability, obviously very little,

3000
03:59:35,840 --> 03:59:43,940
 but if there are any indicators we can leverage, from memory I think you said $17 million over

3001
03:59:43,940 --> 03:59:50,940
 the some time period, I think since the 2014 bond maybe, of refinancing debt, we were able

3002
03:59:50,940 --> 03:59:57,820
 to realize the savings of $17 million in just restructuring debt or something like that.

3003
03:59:57,820 --> 04:00:02,900
 Are there any indicators or are those just opportunities that when they show up they

3004
04:00:02,900 --> 04:00:10,140
 show up and there's no real way to account for opportunities to refinance? For example,

3005
04:00:10,140 --> 04:00:15,620
 over 10 years we're going to have an opportunity to refinance once and we should save X amount?

3006
04:00:15,620 --> 04:00:19,520
 Is that a real formula? We look at it annually, because our bonds are

3007
04:00:19,520 --> 04:00:25,300
 I think it's nine year callable, so we look at it every year, we go to our financial advisors

3008
04:00:25,300 --> 04:00:28,300
 and look at the marketplace, what does the interest rate look like, what were we paying

3009
04:00:28,300 --> 04:00:35,700
 on the interest rate, is it going to be beneficial for us to refinance those or refund the bonds?

3010
04:00:35,700 --> 04:00:39,920
 But as far as projecting forward, like looking at this like a debt budget perspective, is

3011
04:00:39,920 --> 04:00:46,900
 there a way to say, okay well every X amount of years this should be able to be refinanced

3012
04:00:46,900 --> 04:00:51,780
 and reduced to some degree? We know what is able to be refunded, what we

3013
04:00:51,780 --> 04:00:55,740
 don't know is that interest rate, so what the market conditions are going to look like,

3014
04:00:55,740 --> 04:01:02,140
 so it would be very difficult for me to say we could see a savings of X dollar amount,

3015
04:01:02,140 --> 04:01:04,620
 just because I don't know what the market conditions are going to be, but we do look

3016
04:01:04,620 --> 04:01:10,340
 at it every year, so if it's favorable we will refund, if it's not then we won't,

3017
04:01:10,340 --> 04:01:15,420
 but it has been favorable the last five years. Okay, so it's just one of those things if

3018
04:01:15,420 --> 04:01:21,220
 it shows up you take advantage of it but it's not a good financial practice to count on

3019
04:01:21,220 --> 04:01:25,820
 that. Right, we show the tax rate is fully loaded without any of the refundings that

3020
04:01:25,820 --> 04:01:30,380
 already haven't occurred just to account for all scenarios.

3021
04:01:30,380 --> 04:01:38,400
 Got it, okay. Okay, thank you. All right, so moving on to internal service

3022
04:01:38,400 --> 04:01:48,060
 funds, so these funds they provide services to the government organization, the budget

3023
04:01:48,060 --> 04:01:52,500
 is based on reimbursement of actual cost and then those costs are allocated out to the

3024
04:01:52,500 --> 04:01:58,660
 different funds. We do have eight internal service funds at the city, so we have several

3025
04:01:58,660 --> 04:02:04,980
 supplemental requests for internal service funds amounting to 2.6 million dollars, so

3026
04:02:04,980 --> 04:02:11,740
 I'll go through those supplemental requests. We have a total of 18 and a half FTEs, so

3027
04:02:11,740 --> 04:02:18,220
 position requests in internal service funds. Two in fleet management, you may recall we

3028
04:02:18,220 --> 04:02:24,420
 are expanding the fleet, the number of bays we have at fleet, and so these two technicians

3029
04:02:24,420 --> 04:02:30,780
 are, we added two last year, so this is the final two that needed for the expansion. And

3030
04:02:30,780 --> 04:02:36,100
 then data center co-location, we talked about this last year, council directed us to bring

3031
04:02:36,100 --> 04:02:41,060
 this back and look at some different options, so we've brought it back this year. I believe

3032
04:02:41,060 --> 04:02:48,860
 this is a contracted service now in conjunction with the utilities. And then for tech services

3033
04:02:48,860 --> 04:02:54,140
 they're requesting three FTEs, so Alicia's gone through and looked at a five-year kind

3034
04:02:54,140 --> 04:03:00,780
 of position planning, so she's been requesting a few positions every year to right-size her,

3035
04:03:00,780 --> 04:03:06,820
 the organization's needs for tech services, as well as some additional software for police.

3036
04:03:06,820 --> 04:03:10,380
 And then engineering services, as you know we're cranking out those capital projects

3037
04:03:10,380 --> 04:03:16,660
 we saw the capital budget, all of those projects are managed by our capital project team, and

3038
04:03:16,660 --> 04:03:21,660
 so they are requesting two FTEs, so a program manager and another project manager to be

3039
04:03:21,660 --> 04:03:28,060
 able to manage those capital projects. Customer service, you saw this budget earlier in July

3040
04:03:28,060 --> 04:03:35,420
 I believe, they're requesting six FTEs in customer service, and those are primarily

3041
04:03:35,420 --> 04:03:42,140
 funded through the utilities, and then facilities management is requesting three FTEs, and then

3042
04:03:42,140 --> 04:03:48,160
 environmental services you saw this budget in July also asking for two and a half FTEs

3043
04:03:48,160 --> 04:03:53,300
 as well as some software for a total of 2.6 million.

3044
04:03:53,300 --> 04:03:59,620
 Cassie, will you just give a brief overview so the public hears it too about what does

3045
04:03:59,620 --> 04:04:03,180
 that mean when you say internal services, where does that money coming from to fund

3046
04:04:03,180 --> 04:04:06,580
 those positions? So the internal services are funded by all

3047
04:04:06,580 --> 04:04:11,860
 of the other funds, so general fund and the utilities all pay into internal service funds,

3048
04:04:11,860 --> 04:04:16,460
 and we do what we call a true up at the end of the year, so for instance customer service

3049
04:04:16,460 --> 04:04:21,580
 because it's funded primarily from the utilities, if they don't spend all of their money in

3050
04:04:21,580 --> 04:04:27,160
 a given year, then we only take what they expense and then we allocate back the rest

3051
04:04:27,160 --> 04:04:34,120
 to whoever paid into that fund, so electric, water, waste water, solid waste, same with

3052
04:04:34,120 --> 04:04:37,780
 the other way if they spent more than what we budgeted, we bring a budget amendment to

3053
04:04:37,780 --> 04:04:46,360
 council and then we would reallocate those expenses back to the utilities.

3054
04:04:46,360 --> 04:04:51,940
 So just a quick overview, because I'm only showing the expenses only because the revenues

3055
04:04:51,940 --> 04:04:59,420
 are the exact same as the expenses, so it's the same amount that you see in the FY24 proposed,

3056
04:04:59,420 --> 04:05:03,960
 but all of these are based on cost allocation, so we have a model that we go through and

3057
04:05:03,960 --> 04:05:10,620
 we say what portion of the fund is providing services to general fund, utilities, and then

3058
04:05:10,620 --> 04:05:18,200
 we allocate those costs accordingly, so facilities, $6.8 million proposed in FY24, you can see

3059
04:05:18,200 --> 04:05:24,180
 fleet management, materials management is primarily driven by the cost of goods in the

3060
04:05:24,180 --> 04:05:29,660
 warehouse, so we do have a warehouse function that the majority of that cost is coming from

3061
04:05:29,660 --> 04:05:37,140
 our increased cost of just goods in the warehouse, and then engineering $12.1 million, customer

3062
04:05:37,140 --> 04:05:46,500
 service $9.8 million, technology services $21.9 million, risk $7.9 million, and that

3063
04:05:46,500 --> 04:05:54,380
 is the decrease from the estimate to the proposed is based on our safety, we're bringing those

3064
04:05:54,380 --> 04:06:00,100
 positions back in house, we had a contracted safety service, but that's coming back in

3065
04:06:00,100 --> 04:06:07,220
 house and we're hiring those positions, and then health, we are seeing substantial increases

3066
04:06:07,220 --> 04:06:12,780
 in our health fund, and so that's the driver of that increase that you're seeing, the $36.4

3067
04:06:12,780 --> 04:06:21,500
 million in the health fund, we're budgeting about 10 to 12% increases in health fund expenses

3068
04:06:21,500 --> 04:06:23,580
 for the city.

3069
04:06:23,580 --> 04:06:29,980
 >> Okay, internal service fund questions, Councilman Watts.

3070
04:06:29,980 --> 04:06:36,460
 >> Just for clarification, so when we see those internal service funds, I'm looking

3071
04:06:36,460 --> 04:06:48,300
 at slide, which one, it's the five year forecast, and I'm looking at those, so where is that,

3072
04:06:48,300 --> 04:06:55,720
 I see transfers in the expenditures, but where does this show up here?

3073
04:06:55,720 --> 04:07:04,580
 >> So the transfers are in other revenues, so it's revenue coming back, right, so utilities,

3074
04:07:04,580 --> 04:07:10,580
 and then also the internal service funds, and then also transfers out is going to internal

3075
04:07:10,580 --> 04:07:12,160
 service funds.

3076
04:07:12,160 --> 04:07:17,860
 >> So then the list of the internal service funds that you had in all those expenditures,

3077
04:07:17,860 --> 04:07:22,020
 that, could you able to switch to that real quick?

3078
04:07:22,020 --> 04:07:23,020
 >> Sure.

3079
04:07:23,020 --> 04:07:36,780
 >> I still have to ask every year, but so propose, so if you added up all of those,

3080
04:07:36,780 --> 04:07:42,340
 those are the internal service funds, I mean, that's going to be what, a lot of money.

3081
04:07:42,340 --> 04:07:44,860
 >> Right, but it's not all funded by general fund.

3082
04:07:44,860 --> 04:07:46,220
 >> Right, no, no, I understand that.

3083
04:07:46,220 --> 04:07:50,460
 >> Right, so that portion, whatever that general fund portion is, that's the $22.6 million

3084
04:07:50,460 --> 04:07:53,020
 that you saw in the five year forecast.

3085
04:07:53,020 --> 04:07:59,540
 >> All those would have the same kind of configuration of transfers in, or transfers out, and those

3086
04:07:59,540 --> 04:08:04,020
 all should add up to what these all add up to.

3087
04:08:04,020 --> 04:08:05,020
 >> Yes.

3088
04:08:05,020 --> 04:08:06,020
 >> Okay.

3089
04:08:06,020 --> 04:08:07,020
 >> Councilman McGee.

3090
04:08:07,020 --> 04:08:13,500
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3091
04:08:13,500 --> 04:08:20,860
 On the supplemental packages slide, so looking at the Smart Force software, is that something

3092
04:08:20,860 --> 04:08:24,140
 we're contracting with an outside company, or is that something we are purchasing and

3093
04:08:24,140 --> 04:08:25,140
 going to run in-house?

3094
04:08:25,140 --> 04:08:29,500
 >> I'm going to ask Frank to come up and answer that question.

3095
04:08:29,500 --> 04:08:34,700
 >> Good afternoon, Frank Dixon, Assistant City Manager.

3096
04:08:34,700 --> 04:08:40,500
 That's going to be a program that's connected with Axon Equipment.

3097
04:08:40,500 --> 04:08:46,540
 So the same company that does our tasers and body cameras, cameras inside the vehicles

3098
04:08:46,540 --> 04:08:48,220
 and cameras inside the interview rooms.

3099
04:08:48,220 --> 04:08:51,440
 This is going to be another component that goes into Axon.

3100
04:08:51,440 --> 04:08:55,380
 It's like a tracking software for internal investigations.

3101
04:08:55,380 --> 04:08:57,740
 >> So that means this is going to be yearly cost then, too?

3102
04:08:57,740 --> 04:09:00,020
 >> Well, it's going to be added to the contract.

3103
04:09:00,020 --> 04:09:03,900
 So the next time we go into the contract with Axon, I'll be built into the overall cost.

3104
04:09:03,900 --> 04:09:04,900
 >> Okay.

3105
04:09:04,900 --> 04:09:05,900
 >> This is to add it.

3106
04:09:05,900 --> 04:09:06,900
 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3107
04:09:06,900 --> 04:09:07,900
 Thank you, Frank.

3108
04:09:07,900 --> 04:09:10,740
 >> Any other questions?

3109
04:09:10,740 --> 04:09:14,740
 Okay.

3110
04:09:14,740 --> 04:09:15,740
 >> Special revenue funds.

3111
04:09:15,740 --> 04:09:19,340
 So special revenue funds are a little different than internal service funds.

3112
04:09:19,340 --> 04:09:24,800
 These revenue sources are restricted for specific use based on the creation of the funds.

3113
04:09:24,800 --> 04:09:29,740
 So whatever the ordinance that created the funds said, they are restricted.

3114
04:09:29,740 --> 04:09:33,220
 So we have 22 special revenue funds.

3115
04:09:33,220 --> 04:09:38,260
 We'll go through a quick high-level overview of each of these funds.

3116
04:09:38,260 --> 04:09:42,220
 So the downtown TERS, you can see the revenues and expenses.

3117
04:09:42,220 --> 04:09:51,580
 So we had a certified estimate of $261 million, estimated revenue of a little over a million.

3118
04:09:51,580 --> 04:09:56,940
 The incremental value did decrease from 95 to 90%.

3119
04:09:56,940 --> 04:10:01,120
 And then we do have a downtown reimbursement grant program, and we're expected those expenses

3120
04:10:01,120 --> 04:10:06,340
 to be a little over a million dollars in FY24.

3121
04:10:06,340 --> 04:10:09,740
 Here's the appraised value history of the downtown TERS.

3122
04:10:09,740 --> 04:10:23,380
 So only saw a slight -- or 4.19% increase this year compared to 7.8 last year.

3123
04:10:23,380 --> 04:10:31,220
 West Park TERS, so our -- you can see the beginning fund balance of 1.5.

3124
04:10:31,220 --> 04:10:37,160
 We are expecting to deplete the fund balance this next year just based on incentive payment.

3125
04:10:37,160 --> 04:10:45,940
 And so estimated revenue of 1.3 million for this fund, incremental value is at 40%.

3126
04:10:45,940 --> 04:10:51,940
 And you can see the incentive payments of $715,000 next year.

3127
04:10:51,940 --> 04:10:57,340
 The REC fund, I said earlier, we're proposing to dissolve the REC fund, mostly because the

3128
04:10:57,340 --> 04:11:02,520
 transfers -- General Fund was transferring quite a bit of money back into the REC fund,

3129
04:11:02,520 --> 04:11:06,380
 because obviously the fees do not cover the full expense.

3130
04:11:06,380 --> 04:11:12,300
 So these are merged into the General Fund in FY24.

3131
04:11:12,300 --> 04:11:17,060
 The Sustainability Framework Fund, this is a recently created fund.

3132
04:11:17,060 --> 04:11:21,900
 We're proposing to -- the revenue is to be $2 million.

3133
04:11:21,900 --> 04:11:27,660
 We'll talk more about this revenue source in closed session.

3134
04:11:27,660 --> 04:11:38,200
 And then the Catalyst Fund, we are proposing $150,000 of revenue in '24.

3135
04:11:38,200 --> 04:11:43,540
 However, this is a council kind of decision as to where you want to allocate the funding

3136
04:11:43,540 --> 04:11:48,760
 from Catalyst Fund, because it doesn't have a specific revenue source.

3137
04:11:48,760 --> 04:11:54,100
 The current fund balance of this fund is about -- is $3.4 million right now.

3138
04:11:54,100 --> 04:11:56,580
 So they've received $3.4 million.

3139
04:11:56,580 --> 04:12:02,180
 We do not currently have any projects identified for expenses out of this fund, but another

3140
04:12:02,180 --> 04:12:05,060
 council decision point.

3141
04:12:05,060 --> 04:12:11,220
 Because I know that council talked about quite a lot during their strategy session about

3142
04:12:11,220 --> 04:12:14,020
 prioritizing economic development.

3143
04:12:14,020 --> 04:12:24,460
 So this fund is for that purpose, but it does not have a specific revenue source.

3144
04:12:24,460 --> 04:12:29,820
 So Street Improvement Fund, you can see the $15.7 million that we talked about earlier

3145
04:12:29,820 --> 04:12:35,820
 coming from franchise fees, so that's an increase of $600,000 in FY24.

3146
04:12:35,820 --> 04:12:39,540
 You can see the use of reserves of $5.9 million.

3147
04:12:39,540 --> 04:12:43,940
 That is proposing to use the fund balance.

3148
04:12:43,940 --> 04:12:49,960
 Since this is a special revenue fund, we don't have a fund balance requirement for this fund.

3149
04:12:49,960 --> 04:12:57,100
 And so we're proposing to use that $5.9 million to fund some roadway projects next year.

3150
04:12:57,100 --> 04:13:00,620
 So that's really what's driving the increase in this fund.

3151
04:13:00,620 --> 04:13:04,780
 But you can see the transfer to capital, that's where the money goes out to the capital accounts

3152
04:13:04,780 --> 04:13:11,780
 to pay for those reconstruction projects.

3153
04:13:11,780 --> 04:13:17,540
 And then the Tourist and Convention Fund, this is the fund that we generate a hot occupancy

3154
04:13:17,540 --> 04:13:20,060
 tax revenue from.

3155
04:13:20,060 --> 04:13:24,780
 So our FY24 estimate is $3.8 million.

3156
04:13:24,780 --> 04:13:31,540
 And these funds go to support local organizations that promote tourism and the hotel industry.

3157
04:13:31,540 --> 04:13:36,460
 The Community Partnership Committee met on June 20th and made the funding allocation

3158
04:13:36,460 --> 04:13:39,140
 recommendations to council.

3159
04:13:39,140 --> 04:13:46,940
 They are proposing to use $578,000 of fund balance in this fund in FY24.

3160
04:13:46,940 --> 04:13:50,300
 And I'll go to the expenditure summary.

3161
04:13:50,300 --> 04:13:56,860
 So based on the applications and their review of the applications, these are the proposed

3162
04:13:56,860 --> 04:14:05,220
 allocation amounts for each organization.

3163
04:14:05,220 --> 04:14:10,380
 So slightly more than last year based on our revenue projections of bringing a little bit

3164
04:14:10,380 --> 04:14:17,860
 more revenue in and then utilizing that fund balance in this fund.

3165
04:14:17,860 --> 04:14:23,060
 And then we have several other special revenue funds and you can see the total expenditures

3166
04:14:23,060 --> 04:14:31,820
 for each fund, Tree Mitigation Fund is proposing to use increased amount of expenses in this

3167
04:14:31,820 --> 04:14:33,380
 next year.

3168
04:14:33,380 --> 04:14:39,340
 Roadway Impact Fee Fund, this goes to supplement some of our capital projects based on the

3169
04:14:39,340 --> 04:14:41,900
 impact fees collected.

3170
04:14:41,900 --> 04:14:48,260
 Parkland Dedication Fund, Parkland Development Fund, Donation Funds, PEG Fund.

3171
04:14:48,260 --> 04:14:51,800
 If you have any more questions about this, we can certainly answer them before we get

3172
04:14:51,800 --> 04:15:00,060
 into ARPA funding.

3173
04:15:00,060 --> 04:15:06,060
 I have, bear with me.

3174
04:15:06,060 --> 04:15:11,340
 So my notes that you pointed out, we need to discuss at some point or give you direction

3175
04:15:11,340 --> 04:15:16,220
 on the Catalyst Fund and Sustainability Framework Fund which will be enclosed.

3176
04:15:16,220 --> 04:15:22,900
 But then the Catalyst Fund at some point is now kind of that or in future weeks?

3177
04:15:22,900 --> 04:15:23,900
 Closed also.

3178
04:15:23,900 --> 04:15:25,180
 Okay, got it.

3179
04:15:25,180 --> 04:15:33,020
 And then I'll tell you, is there a concern, there's a concern for me, I'm asking is there

3180
04:15:33,020 --> 04:15:42,380
 a concern on, should I be concerned about the Hot Fund's fund balance?

3181
04:15:42,380 --> 04:15:46,100
 And because there are some significant increases, I'll look at the applications.

3182
04:15:46,100 --> 04:15:50,540
 Are those posted somewhere where I can kind of, I mean, because for example, they seem

3183
04:15:50,540 --> 04:15:53,900
 to be held pretty steady.

3184
04:15:53,900 --> 04:15:59,500
 So bouncing back from a pandemic in '22 to '23, if there was going to be a jump, kind

3185
04:15:59,500 --> 04:16:03,940
 of like, hey, let's jumpstart you back and get you back up and running, but you don't

3186
04:16:03,940 --> 04:16:05,340
 see that.

3187
04:16:05,340 --> 04:16:10,940
 And so to go from like a steady 40,000 to like a 60,000, just grabbing the top one,

3188
04:16:10,940 --> 04:16:16,060
 I just need to understand what would, because that's always a contentious thing, right?

3189
04:16:16,060 --> 04:16:19,340
 You have to put heads and beds and how is that evaluated and that sort of thing.

3190
04:16:19,340 --> 04:16:22,440
 So I just want to dig into that a little deeper.

3191
04:16:22,440 --> 04:16:23,440
 Where do I find that information?

3192
04:16:23,440 --> 04:16:26,460
 There's no fund balance requirement of this fund.

3193
04:16:26,460 --> 04:16:31,380
 The committee has historically tried to keep about a million dollars in fund balance.

3194
04:16:31,380 --> 04:16:37,780
 The state is making us, we're going to be reporting the fund balance this year.

3195
04:16:37,780 --> 04:16:43,340
 So my kind of recommendation to the committee when we went through the allocation was, it's

3196
04:16:43,340 --> 04:16:47,420
 going to be better if you show utilization in the fund balance, so you're slowly bringing

3197
04:16:47,420 --> 04:16:52,740
 that fund balance down since the state's wanting us to report it.

3198
04:16:52,740 --> 04:16:58,120
 But other than that, I mean, again, revenues are based on our best guess, it's a projection.

3199
04:16:58,120 --> 04:17:02,340
 So if the revenues don't come in, we may not, you know, we may be using more of that fund

3200
04:17:02,340 --> 04:17:07,620
 balance, but just on the flip side, we could see higher revenues and then have more of

3201
04:17:07,620 --> 04:17:09,700
 a fund balance utilized.

3202
04:17:09,700 --> 04:17:12,480
 The applications are available.

3203
04:17:12,480 --> 04:17:18,040
 We posted them as part of our agenda packet when the community partnership committee met

3204
04:17:18,040 --> 04:17:22,100
 on June 20th, so we can give you a link to those applications.

3205
04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:24,100
 I'm sure I have it.

3206
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:25,100
 You said June 20th?

3207
04:17:25,100 --> 04:17:26,100
 Yes.

3208
04:17:26,100 --> 04:17:27,100
 Okay.

3209
04:17:27,100 --> 04:17:28,100
 I'll take a look.

3210
04:17:28,100 --> 04:17:33,180
 And then the ambassador program, what portion, because I thought we were funding that all

3211
04:17:33,180 --> 04:17:34,580
 another way.

3212
04:17:34,580 --> 04:17:37,580
 There's a portion being requested from the hot buns.

3213
04:17:37,580 --> 04:17:42,380
 I'll let Christine come up and answer that.

3214
04:17:42,380 --> 04:17:46,500
 This portion is to extend the hours at Discover Denton.

3215
04:17:46,500 --> 04:17:51,140
 We talked about Discover Denton on the square being kind of a touch point for the ambassador

3216
04:17:51,140 --> 04:17:52,140
 program.

3217
04:17:52,140 --> 04:17:56,540
 So for that to be a location where if someone has a question, that's kind of where they

3218
04:17:56,540 --> 04:17:57,700
 can go to find them.

3219
04:17:57,700 --> 04:18:02,100
 So it will extend the hours, opening those restrooms up a little longer.

3220
04:18:02,100 --> 04:18:06,820
 So those costs are primarily related to making sure that we can do building access changes

3221
04:18:06,820 --> 04:18:11,220
 so that the ambassador employees can get in and out of that facility.

3222
04:18:11,220 --> 04:18:13,340
 Got it.

3223
04:18:13,340 --> 04:18:19,900
 Just full disclosure, no direction or kind of, I hadn't fully baked that, but I don't

3224
04:18:19,900 --> 04:18:23,900
 know that I'm comfortable with coming out of these dollars, but I understand why it's

3225
04:18:23,900 --> 04:18:25,380
 coming out of these dollars initially.

3226
04:18:25,380 --> 04:18:32,520
 I just need to, and then I don't know if $30,000 just under is enough to really spend much

3227
04:18:32,520 --> 04:18:38,500
 time on the grand scheme of things, $30,000 and $1.9 billion.

3228
04:18:38,500 --> 04:18:39,500
 I get it.

3229
04:18:39,500 --> 04:18:42,940
 All right, let me just, I'll just process through that.

3230
04:18:42,940 --> 04:18:48,260
 So any other questions on the special revenue fund?

3231
04:18:48,260 --> 04:18:50,780
 Councilman Roegge.

3232
04:18:50,780 --> 04:18:53,700
 That's a 28-4 for the downtown ambassadors.

3233
04:18:53,700 --> 04:18:57,860
 Does that also include like the security keypad for those folks to get in and out?

3234
04:18:57,860 --> 04:18:59,980
 Will that be wrapped up into that too?

3235
04:18:59,980 --> 04:19:00,980
 Right.

3236
04:19:00,980 --> 04:19:01,980
 Is that the line shared at cost?

3237
04:19:01,980 --> 04:19:02,980
 Correct.

3238
04:19:02,980 --> 04:19:06,580
 They broke it out separately from their main allocation that we typically provide to Discover

3239
04:19:06,580 --> 04:19:07,580
 Denton.

3240
04:19:07,580 --> 04:19:11,680
 That is only associated with those costs to extend the operating hours to kind of align

3241
04:19:11,680 --> 04:19:13,680
 with our ambassador program.

3242
04:19:13,680 --> 04:19:18,300
 Not the complete hours, but expand their hours and then the security access into the building.

3243
04:19:18,300 --> 04:19:19,300
 Okay.

3244
04:19:19,300 --> 04:19:20,300
 Councilman Nelson.

3245
04:19:20,300 --> 04:19:26,700
 Yeah, I'm sorry if you said it and I missed it, but I don't see it on the slide.

3246
04:19:26,700 --> 04:19:32,400
 What is the reserve, you know, the fund balance for hot funds that you're, that you've dipped

3247
04:19:32,400 --> 04:19:37,260
 into, you know, or project to dip into, like what's out of how much?

3248
04:19:37,260 --> 04:19:40,020
 Utilizing 578,000.

3249
04:19:40,020 --> 04:19:41,020
 Out of how much?

3250
04:19:41,020 --> 04:19:42,020
 What's that?

3251
04:19:42,020 --> 04:19:44,420
 I believe it was a little over a million in fund balance.

3252
04:19:44,420 --> 04:19:45,420
 I'll have to double-check.

3253
04:19:45,420 --> 04:19:51,180
 So, I mean, is there 578,000 projected to, you know, left there to dip into?

3254
04:19:51,180 --> 04:19:52,180
 Yes.

3255
04:19:52,180 --> 04:19:53,180
 Yes.

3256
04:19:53,180 --> 04:19:54,180
 You saw where I was going.

3257
04:19:54,180 --> 04:19:55,180
 Okay.

3258
04:19:55,180 --> 04:19:57,580
 What do we, what do we do the Denton Breakfast quantities for?

3259
04:19:57,580 --> 04:19:59,500
 I know we fund the 4th of July.

3260
04:19:59,500 --> 04:20:00,500
 Is that what that is?

3261
04:20:00,500 --> 04:20:01,500
 No, it's a turkey roll.

3262
04:20:01,500 --> 04:20:02,500
 Yes, that's correct.

3263
04:20:02,500 --> 04:20:11,300
 Denton Breakfast quantities, this is a group you should join.

3264
04:20:11,300 --> 04:20:16,740
 Oh, the bike rally, I'm sorry.

3265
04:20:16,740 --> 04:20:17,740
 Yeah, yeah.

3266
04:20:17,740 --> 04:20:22,900
 So, turkey roll is, yeah, sorry.

3267
04:20:22,900 --> 04:20:23,900
 Any other questions?

3268
04:20:23,900 --> 04:20:25,220
 That's a great point.

3269
04:20:25,220 --> 04:20:26,220
 Thank you.

3270
04:20:26,220 --> 04:20:30,420
 It's almost, that's a very coming to America, taste the soup, where's the spoon type event

3271
04:20:30,420 --> 04:20:31,420
 there?

3272
04:20:31,420 --> 04:20:32,900
 Yeah, they don't know what the turkey roll is.

3273
04:20:32,900 --> 04:20:41,620
 You're like, hey, where's the soup, taste the soup, where's the spoon, aha, sorry.

3274
04:20:41,620 --> 04:20:43,020
 American Rescue Plan.

3275
04:20:43,020 --> 04:20:44,180
 American Rescue Plan Act.

3276
04:20:44,180 --> 04:20:53,140
 So, you may recall the ARPA or American Rescue Plan Act was enacted March 11th, 2021.

3277
04:20:53,140 --> 04:21:01,380
 So, it was 1.9 trillion in pandemic relief and 350 billion was authorized in state and

3278
04:21:01,380 --> 04:21:03,500
 local government assistance.

3279
04:21:03,500 --> 04:21:09,340
 These are the four kind of areas that the ARPA funds focused on.

3280
04:21:09,340 --> 04:21:13,900
 So, respond to COVID and public health, premium pay for workers, invest in water and wastewater

3281
04:21:13,900 --> 04:21:18,540
 infrastructure and replace revenue lost due to COVID.

3282
04:21:18,540 --> 04:21:23,780
 And so, we went, we had several work sessions with council where we tried to establish the

3283
04:21:23,780 --> 04:21:27,960
 City of Denton's kind of goals in utilizing our ARPA funds.

3284
04:21:27,960 --> 04:21:32,500
 These were the goals that the city council directed, so create sustainable solutions,

3285
04:21:32,500 --> 04:21:36,860
 address immediate needs and then we were trying to achieve long-term benefits.

3286
04:21:36,860 --> 04:21:44,380
 We received two tranches of the funding, so 23.29 million altogether.

3287
04:21:44,380 --> 04:21:50,420
 We received the first part in June 2021 and then the second half in June 2022.

3288
04:21:50,420 --> 04:22:01,100
 So, year one, city council authorized 11.6 million in allocations to the specific projects.

3289
04:22:01,100 --> 04:22:08,140
 So far, we're estimating to spend 10.6 in these specific projects.

3290
04:22:08,140 --> 04:22:11,380
 You can see the project status there in the last column.

3291
04:22:11,380 --> 04:22:19,460
 Still, a lot of these are in progress, so these are estimated as of the final allocations.

3292
04:22:19,460 --> 04:22:25,280
 And then year two, all of the projects are still in progress, but city council allocated

3293
04:22:25,280 --> 04:22:27,500
 originally 11.6.

3294
04:22:27,500 --> 04:22:34,700
 We've issued a couple of informal staff reports to give council an update on kind of reallocating

3295
04:22:34,700 --> 04:22:39,580
 some of the dollars based on where the need is, so you can see public safety equipment.

3296
04:22:39,580 --> 04:22:45,300
 We reallocated some funding from year one to year two for public safety purchases.

3297
04:22:45,300 --> 04:22:50,380
 So, you can see there the estimated expense for total, 23.29.

3298
04:22:50,380 --> 04:22:55,940
 The funding has to be encumbered by the end of 2024 and then all the funds have to be

3299
04:22:55,940 --> 04:23:02,580
 expensed by December 31st, 2026.

3300
04:23:02,580 --> 04:23:05,140
 Any questions on ARPA?

3301
04:23:05,140 --> 04:23:06,140
 >> Questions for Seth.

3302
04:23:06,140 --> 04:23:07,140
 Councilman Harlan.

3303
04:23:07,140 --> 04:23:08,140
 >> Please.

3304
04:23:08,140 --> 04:23:09,140
 I had to look up tranches.

3305
04:23:09,140 --> 04:23:10,940
 I've just never seen that word.

3306
04:23:10,940 --> 04:23:14,140
 It's spot on, especially money, it says.

3307
04:23:14,140 --> 04:23:20,100
 How was the American rescue plan, how was that publicized?

3308
04:23:20,100 --> 04:23:24,740
 How did people know that was a thing?

3309
04:23:24,740 --> 04:23:28,500
 >> We did a couple of social media pushes, I believe, and then we also have a website

3310
04:23:28,500 --> 04:23:31,260
 and then you saw the dashboard earlier.

3311
04:23:31,260 --> 04:23:36,180
 So we relied on our internal communications to kind of let the public know what was going

3312
04:23:36,180 --> 04:23:40,500
 on because we did have a couple of grant opportunities and then we partnered with, on our arts and

3313
04:23:40,500 --> 04:23:47,100
 culture grant, we partnered with the greater Denton arts council to kind of publicize those

3314
04:23:47,100 --> 04:23:48,100
 grant opportunities.

3315
04:23:48,100 --> 04:23:54,180
 >> But private businesses were apprised of that on the website or a public meeting or

3316
04:23:54,180 --> 04:23:55,180
 something?

3317
04:23:55,180 --> 04:23:56,180
 >> Yes.

3318
04:23:56,180 --> 04:23:57,180
 >> Thank you.

3319
04:23:57,180 --> 04:23:58,180
 >> Okay.

3320
04:23:58,180 --> 04:24:01,180
 Any other questions for staff?

3321
04:24:01,180 --> 04:24:02,180
 Okay.

3322
04:24:02,180 --> 04:24:07,860
 And this, just to confirm, these are the funds we're using for the hotel expenses, right?

3323
04:24:07,860 --> 04:24:08,860
 And so we're covered.

3324
04:24:08,860 --> 04:24:09,860
 >> Yes.

3325
04:24:09,860 --> 04:24:13,140
 >> So you expect those to stretch until 26, 25?

3326
04:24:13,140 --> 04:24:20,260
 >> Until 2025, well, we have until 2026 to utilize them, but we expect to use them before

3327
04:24:20,260 --> 04:24:21,260
 then.

3328
04:24:21,260 --> 04:24:24,500
 >> Oh, so you don't, how long do we think?

3329
04:24:24,500 --> 04:24:25,500
 >> 25.

3330
04:24:25,500 --> 04:24:26,500
 >> 25.

3331
04:24:26,500 --> 04:24:27,500
 >> That's what I thought.

3332
04:24:27,500 --> 04:24:28,500
 Okay.

3333
04:24:28,500 --> 04:24:29,500
 Got it.

3334
04:24:29,500 --> 04:24:30,500
 Just make sure.

3335
04:24:30,500 --> 04:24:31,500
 Great.

3336
04:24:31,500 --> 04:24:32,500
 Any other questions?

3337
04:24:32,500 --> 04:24:33,500
 Oh, Councilman McGee.

3338
04:24:33,500 --> 04:24:35,420
 >> Yeah, this is just a small question about one thing I saw.

3339
04:24:35,420 --> 04:24:41,060
 I noticed that it says the city's facilities COVID update, that's still in progress.

3340
04:24:41,060 --> 04:24:42,060
 What's still happening?

3341
04:24:42,060 --> 04:24:48,700
 >> You're talking about some of the things we're doing in the city facilities, like here

3342
04:24:48,700 --> 04:24:53,420
 we did a different filtration system, things like that.

3343
04:24:53,420 --> 04:24:54,420
 Yes.

3344
04:24:54,420 --> 04:24:55,420
 Some of that's continuing.

3345
04:24:55,420 --> 04:24:56,620
 We've completed a lot of it.

3346
04:24:56,620 --> 04:24:58,460
 >> And we did have some supply chain issues.

3347
04:24:58,460 --> 04:25:03,860
 We ordered the supplies and then during COVID weren't able to receive some of them, so we

3348
04:25:03,860 --> 04:25:09,940
 had to change vendors that it's been taking a lot longer than anticipated to get the facility

3349
04:25:09,940 --> 04:25:11,940
 changes made.

3350
04:25:11,940 --> 04:25:14,260
 >> All right.

3351
04:25:14,260 --> 04:25:15,260
 Okay.

3352
04:25:15,260 --> 04:25:17,300
 Any other questions?

3353
04:25:17,300 --> 04:25:18,300
 Great.

3354
04:25:18,300 --> 04:25:19,300
 >> Okay.

3355
04:25:19,300 --> 04:25:20,740
 Final summary.

3356
04:25:20,740 --> 04:25:26,740
 So total budget, you can see the general fund is requesting 19 positions, internal service

3357
04:25:26,740 --> 04:25:34,140
 positions, a request of 18 and a half FTEs, with utility requesting to add 14 positions,

3358
04:25:34,140 --> 04:25:40,540
 $1.9 billion revenue budget, $1.9 billion expenditure budget.

3359
04:25:40,540 --> 04:25:45,380
 The proposed budget includes no change to the overall tax rate.

3360
04:25:45,380 --> 04:25:51,900
 And then includes $4.9 million for supplementals request for general fund, $2.6 million for

3361
04:25:51,900 --> 04:25:57,280
 internal service funds, and then $1.7 million of one-time expenses from general fund for

3362
04:25:57,280 --> 04:25:59,060
 the current year.

3363
04:25:59,060 --> 04:26:06,820
 And so the average residential tax bill impact, I know we alluded to this earlier.

3364
04:26:06,820 --> 04:26:11,380
 Here's the increases shown, including the utility impact.

3365
04:26:11,380 --> 04:26:18,860
 So you can see the total on the bottom, $251 annual increase for tax bill and that 11% increase

3366
04:26:18,860 --> 04:26:26,280
 in the wastewater.

3367
04:26:26,280 --> 04:26:31,580
 And then we still have many more community engagement opportunities before the budget

3368
04:26:31,580 --> 04:26:33,740
 is scheduled for adoption.

3369
04:26:33,740 --> 04:26:35,920
 We have follow-up meetings scheduled in August.

3370
04:26:35,920 --> 04:26:41,040
 We have a website specifically to get citizen feedback on our budget.

3371
04:26:41,040 --> 04:26:45,860
 We also have a balancing act, which is a budget simulation tool where you can go and create

3372
04:26:45,860 --> 04:26:52,380
 your own budget and give feedback based on what you want to fund or don't want to fund.

3373
04:26:52,380 --> 04:26:56,100
 And then we have a public hearing on the tax rate and the budget scheduled for September

3374
04:26:56,100 --> 04:26:57,100
 19th.

3375
04:26:57,100 --> 04:26:59,940
 And this is just a quick snapshot of our balancing act.

3376
04:26:59,940 --> 04:27:01,740
 This will go live this week.

3377
04:27:01,740 --> 04:27:06,420
 And so the public has an opportunity to say whether or not they would fund the supplemental

3378
04:27:06,420 --> 04:27:09,980
 packages as we've ranked them or reduce the tax rate.

3379
04:27:09,980 --> 04:27:16,420
 And we can send this out once it goes live so council can have the exact website.

3380
04:27:16,420 --> 04:27:20,380
 And then I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.

3381
04:27:20,380 --> 04:27:21,380
 Okay.

3382
04:27:21,380 --> 04:27:22,380
 Any additional questions from staff?

3383
04:27:22,380 --> 04:27:25,380
 Mayor Pro Tem?

3384
04:27:25,380 --> 04:27:26,380
 Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3385
04:27:26,380 --> 04:27:29,660
 I think something in the last year's budget, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm misremembering,

3386
04:27:29,660 --> 04:27:34,860
 but in which case I'll just request it out of hand.

3387
04:27:34,860 --> 04:27:39,580
 Do we have the sort of population growth versus FTEs?

3388
04:27:39,580 --> 04:27:43,020
 I thought I remembered that from last year.

3389
04:27:43,020 --> 04:27:48,860
 Because I think it's a question I ask all the time, you know, if we're growing at whatever

3390
04:27:48,860 --> 04:27:56,540
 it is, 30 a day, then at some point, you trip over to another FTE to match the service load

3391
04:27:56,540 --> 04:27:57,540
 of that.

3392
04:27:57,540 --> 04:28:01,460
 Do you have a preference on general fund or all funds?

3393
04:28:01,460 --> 04:28:08,380
 I mean, obviously general summary is as a base graph, but if we could have one related

3394
04:28:08,380 --> 04:28:11,500
 to the various funds, that would be great.

3395
04:28:11,500 --> 04:28:20,900
 Because I think it makes it really clear that by and large, most of these requests are growth.

3396
04:28:20,900 --> 04:28:27,220
 And it's useful for me in determining, you know, when I feel comfortable supporting,

3397
04:28:27,220 --> 04:28:34,100
 you know, if we've grown, we've grown and we need to, we're just taking base level versus

3398
04:28:34,100 --> 04:28:35,660
 an actual supplement.

3399
04:28:35,660 --> 04:28:40,940
 I actually really don't like, and I said this last year, I really don't like calling your

3400
04:28:40,940 --> 04:28:43,700
 growth expansion supplements because they're not.

3401
04:28:43,700 --> 04:28:44,700
 They're growth expansions.

3402
04:28:44,700 --> 04:28:51,020
 And I keep trying to get us to break those out into, you know, what's growth versus what

3403
04:28:51,020 --> 04:28:56,660
 is an actual new item that you've never seen before.

3404
04:28:56,660 --> 04:28:58,380
 And those are different decision processes.

3405
04:28:58,380 --> 04:29:01,260
 So if we could do something like that as we go forward in the budget process, I would

3406
04:29:01,260 --> 04:29:03,060
 really appreciate it.

3407
04:29:03,060 --> 04:29:06,100
 - Okay, any other, Council Member Meltzer?

3408
04:29:06,100 --> 04:29:09,180
 - Just a comment in support.

3409
04:29:09,180 --> 04:29:15,060
 A supplemental would be adding a capacity or an activity that you don't currently have.

3410
04:29:15,060 --> 04:29:16,060
 Right?

3411
04:29:16,060 --> 04:29:18,380
 I mean, that would be truly supplemental.

3412
04:29:18,380 --> 04:29:22,940
 - Okay, any other questions?

3413
04:29:22,940 --> 04:29:23,940
 Send none.

3414
04:29:23,940 --> 04:29:24,940
 Okay.

3415
04:29:24,940 --> 04:29:32,900
 Let's take, let staff kind of discuss before we, the close component and make sure we need

3416
04:29:32,900 --> 04:29:34,500
 to do that.

3417
04:29:34,500 --> 04:29:37,340
 So we'll give like a little quick 10 minute break.

3418
04:29:37,340 --> 04:29:38,340
 So 10.

3419
04:29:38,340 --> 04:29:39,340
 30.

3420
04:29:39,340 --> 04:29:40,340
 Yeah.

3421
04:29:40,340 --> 04:29:42,940
 So it's 30 now around numbers.

3422
04:29:42,940 --> 04:29:43,940
 240.

3423
04:29:43,940 --> 04:29:46,780
 We'll be back and take it back up.

3424
04:29:46,780 --> 04:29:47,780
 Thanks.

3425
04:29:47,780 --> 04:29:52,300
 Oh, and when we come back, well, is Billy still there?

3426
04:29:52,300 --> 04:29:56,300
 Has anybody can check with, I mean, is he, can he put us back on really quick?

3427
04:29:56,300 --> 04:29:58,980
 Is that, how does that work?

3428
04:29:58,980 --> 04:30:03,500
 Brian, yeah, just give me one second.

3429
04:30:03,500 --> 04:30:06,260
 Hey, if you, Matt, meet me at the front here.

3430
04:30:06,260 --> 04:30:16,340
 So you can bring your plate.

3431
04:30:16,340 --> 04:30:22,540
 So we'll wait until we get back on, but we have a, we have a, a gift for you for being

3432
04:30:22,540 --> 04:30:23,540
 your first time.

3433
04:30:23,540 --> 04:30:24,540
 We have a little element.

3434
04:30:24,540 --> 04:30:27,540
 So you always remember your first presentation.

3435
04:30:27,540 --> 04:30:29,180
 Oh, we are.

3436
04:30:29,180 --> 04:30:30,180
 Okay.

3437
04:30:30,180 --> 04:30:31,180
 Thanks.

3438
04:30:31,180 --> 04:30:33,380
 So all those hot mics, yeah.

3439
04:30:33,380 --> 04:30:34,380
 You got it.

3440
04:30:34,380 --> 04:30:35,380
 Yeah.

3441
04:30:35,380 --> 04:30:36,380
 No worries.

3442
04:30:36,380 --> 04:30:37,380
 Okay.

3443
04:30:37,380 --> 04:30:38,380
 So what we do is, uh, yeah.

3444
04:30:38,380 --> 04:30:39,380
 First presentation.

3445
04:30:39,380 --> 04:30:44,220
 So, uh, the city manager and council, uh, give you this elephant to kind of remember your

3446
04:30:44,220 --> 04:30:46,460
 first time kind of presenting and welcome.

3447
04:30:46,460 --> 04:30:48,940
 So where's where you come here from?

3448
04:30:48,940 --> 04:30:51,060
 I've been with the city for three years, right?

3449
04:30:51,060 --> 04:30:56,700
 And prior to that, I was with the Boy Scouts of America and, uh, came from private industry

3450
04:30:56,700 --> 04:30:57,700
 before that.

3451
04:30:57,700 --> 04:30:58,700
 Got it.

3452
04:30:58,700 --> 04:30:59,700
 Okay.

3453
04:30:59,700 --> 04:31:00,700
 Got it.

3454
04:31:00,700 --> 04:31:01,700
 So we'll, thank you very much.

3455
04:31:01,700 --> 04:31:02,700
 Appreciate your work and efforts and great job today.

3456
04:31:02,700 --> 04:31:03,700
 And so I wanted to give you that.

3457
04:31:03,700 --> 04:31:04,700
 All right.

3458
04:31:04,700 --> 04:31:05,700
 Thank you very much.

3459
04:31:05,700 --> 04:31:06,700
 Appreciate it.

3460
04:31:06,700 --> 04:31:07,700
 Yeah.

3461
04:31:07,700 --> 04:31:08,700
 Okay.

3462
04:31:08,700 --> 04:31:17,460
 So at, uh, two 30, we'll be back at two 40.

3463
04:31:17,460 --> 04:31:28,660
 Uh, the city council will now at two 43 PM convened and closed meeting to deliberate

3464
04:31:28,660 --> 04:31:33,340
 the closed meeting items set forth on the agenda, which includes the following item

3465
04:31:33,340 --> 04:31:40,500
 a ID two three one four five, let's see one five four five deliberations regarding certain

3466
04:31:40,500 --> 04:31:45,060
 public power utilities, competitive matters on the Texas government code section five

3467
04:31:45,060 --> 04:31:50,720
 five one dot zero eight six consultation with attorneys under Texas government code section

3468
04:31:50,720 --> 04:31:56,300
 five five one dot zero seven one deliberations regarding real property under Texas government

3469
04:31:56,300 --> 04:32:02,380
 and real property under government code section five five one dot zero seven two.