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 Good morning, we are here at the City of Denton Mobility Committee at 8 a.m. in the council

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 work session room.

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 Do we have any citizen comments on the agenda item?

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 Does anybody have?

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 It doesn't seem to be there.

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 So we'll move on to items for individual consideration.

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 House 1, MC 23-018, consider approval of the minutes May 24th.

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 Since you are newly on the board, the committee here, we don't have the quorum to approve

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 the minutes from May 24th, so we would need another person here.

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 So we're going to move on from there.

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 Yes, sir?

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 Councilor McGee and I can't verify the minutes, so is there a process where only one committee

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 member can verify the minutes?

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 I think it's a quorum issue here, so two people are a quorum, so he's not here.

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 So I will, just for expediency, even though I will, if you will attest to the minutes,

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 then I will move approval of the minutes.

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 I can attest to the minutes.

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 And I will accept your as a statement of fact and move approval of the minutes.

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 Well, that's great.

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 So yes.

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 So all in favor?

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 All right, there you go.

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 Thank you.

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 Moving on to MC 23-19, Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton

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 Transportation Mobility Project Status Report.

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 Yes, ma'am, and today we have Barry Heard with ITS here to present the information for

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 He has the packet ready.

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 Good morning.

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 Good morning.

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 Present.

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 Present.

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 There it is.

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 Present.

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 Thanks.

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 All right.

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 I'm Barry Heard.

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 I'm here to present the Mobility Report.

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 These are the projects we have, starting out with number one, FM 2181.

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 When I started -- when I retired with TechStat in 2016, this project was just getting started.

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 And we don't have this on our reports very often that we say completed, but this has

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 been a project that's taken a few years and very glad to say that it's completed, FM 2181.

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 I-35 North, this is split up into four separate projects, and there's 115 parcels for acquisition

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 on the 74 CSJ, 113 of those parcels are in possession and two in negotiations.

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 We're working to expedite the design, resubmittal at the end of July 2023.

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 That's with AT&T.

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 These utilities are finalizing all across the city of Denton.

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 We're expecting to have that agreement later this month.

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 And everybody else is just finishing up.

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 The interchange letting, the important thing to note here is the letting is April 2024

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 with completed plans in December of 2023.

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 Right now those plans are under 95% review.

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 And the city of Denton is working with TWU on the medallion.

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 And those utilities are expected to be completed in August.

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 So this project is $466 million, it's a very big project.

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 Here's the utilities, they're just finishing up also.

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 Next project, I-35E at May Hill, $116 million project scheduled to let, ready to let in

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 February 2024 with a June 25 let date, 35W frontage roads, 60% plan review is going to

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 be submitted later this week, 100% plan scheduled for December of 2023.

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 And currently, ready to let is December 24.

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 And we expect right away acquisition to be complete in September.

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 380, US 380, US 377, this project's under construction, $20 million project with Regal

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 doing the construction, they're working on the medians and the sidewalks, mainly on the

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 west end of the project currently.

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 Loop 288 West frontage roads, this project is expecting 100% plans in February 2024.

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 And again, this is another submittal, a 60% submittal that is planned at the end of July

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 in the next few weeks, or the next few days actually.

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 CPMY is a consultant and there was a TCP traffic control plan conference held last week.

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 Loop 288 East and the US 380 connector, this is a project we're actually having a public

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 meeting tomorrow night here in Denton.

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 It's a, the current estimated cost is approximately $650 million.

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 Bonnie Bray segment seven, this is an extension of the project that was just previously connecting

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 Bonnie Bray to the loop.

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 FM 1515 airport road, estimated construction costs approximately 34 million, 100% plans

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 are scheduled for May of 2024 with a ready to let date of June 2025.

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 Right now, almost all the right of way is acquired and once that's done, the utilities

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 will, utility relocations will start.

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 FM 1173, this is mainly from, in crumb from 156 to I-35.

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 It's an estimated construction cost of 88 million, 100% plans in March 2024 with a ready

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 to let of February 2025.

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 Currently, there are 41 parcels on the right of way parcels.

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 One parcel parcels are in eminent domain and 34 in possession.

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 The outer loop, this is a project that has recently started within the past six months.

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 It's a $1.5 billion project and this goes from State Highway 289 in Collin County to

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 I-35 north of Dent.

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 Noman Locust, this is the turn back with the City of Denton from, with TxDOT and once this

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 is approved, the city will provide a resolution to complete the process.

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 That's one thing I was going to mention on the outer loop.

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 The public meeting was held earlier in June and the comment period closed on June 22nd.

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 Have you all gotten a chance to review those comments yet?

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 They're in the process of reviewing those right now.

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 Once they're reviewed, all the responses will be posted online to the Denton County website

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 as well as TxDOT.

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 TxDOT has a link, Keep It Moving Dallas, and that link goes right to the county website

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 and those will be posted there.

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 I have a question about Bonnie Bray.

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 Let me go back down here.

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 That yellow part that we're looking at there, is the yellow part that's going north and

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 south, is that a new road or is that just an improved road right there?

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 Because it seemed like I thought that Bonnie Bray just went directly straight.

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 It is a new road.

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 Right, so currently there is a connection that goes underneath the loop off of 77.

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 It's further to the west where Barry's Parcer is.

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 And that roadway will no longer be the connection.

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 So what we're working with UNT as it impacts their property, and then also with the Loop

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 288 frontage road project that they're having the public hearing on Thursday, this has been

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 added as a portion.

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 So if you recall, Bonnie Bray Phase 6 will come from the south and basically make a perpendicular

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 angle at 77.

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 So this would be the connection piece between Bonnie Bray Phase 6 to the new loop project.

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 And so we've been coordinating with access.

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 We did not want to have this area be stranded and not have access to it.

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 The portion that Barry was showing you that's further to that west, that roadway continues

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 north and there are folks that receive access from that area.

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 So we've coordinated with transportation planning and then of course development services team

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 and our team just to make sure that there's still access to the frontage roads and that

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 you can continue north.

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 So there will continue to be a lot of coordination with UNT as they're looking at their master

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 plan in that area.

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 That portion that you see north of the loop that kind of sticks out a little bit, that's

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 a graphical representation.

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 That's not currently really in the works to make a new roadway go north in that area.

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 Currently what we're proposing and working with is to tie, there'll be a frontage road

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 along that area, tie that frontage road back to the existing Bonnie Bray that's to the

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 west of that location.

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 Because there will no longer be that U-turn turn around underneath.

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 But it'll go roughly from right here to right here.

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 That's correct Barry, thank you.

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 Also that north loop 288 to 35, they're right there.

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 That whole space right there is going to be frontage roads first, do you all build the

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 We don't have the traffic control plan, this is just in the schematic phase but that will

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 Yeah, let's build the frontage roads first while all the traffic's on the main lanes

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 and go from there.

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 However, that's not been finalized.

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 But this is different than, so it's different than the loop 288 west.

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 building the frontage roads first and then we'll come back at a later date.

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 It's based then over time, yes.

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 This project, and you'll see this tomorrow night, has an ultimate cross section, three

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 lanes each direction with frontage roads.

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 And so the way that it's constructed or the manner of which Barry's just mentioning, that

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 will come through as a part of the traffic control from the design engineer as to what

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 makes sense to construct first.

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 Many times, they do construct the frontage roads first, get traffic flowing on that,

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 then go back and work towards the center.

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 But those decisions have not been made because it's in schematic phase.

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 Several years out still on that determination.

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 Providing access.

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 Yeah, for what they're doing, so...

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 We're gonna work closely with the city, we already have been on the access on this project,

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 so we will continue that throughout the project development.

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 The schematic environmental and the plans.

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 Just wanna comment on 380, I've been traveling up and down that way here lately for some

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 reason and just recognizing the good work that's being done and...

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 They make good progress here the last few months.

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 I'll pass that along.

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 Yeah, be sure and pass that along.

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 Definitely I will.

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 The work is not...

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 They're not working in vain.

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 Exactly.

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 It's definitely helping, so thank you for that.

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 You have any questions?

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 Can we go back to the Bonnie Bray?

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 I'll have Bonnie Bray's 288 and Outer Loop questions.

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 On that one, just to clarify a little, we're not...

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 The graphical extension is just that.

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 We're not anticipating jogging back to the left and hooking back in to North 77 at this

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 time up to Sanger and whatnot.

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 We don't have currently the growth in that area to make those improvements.

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 This is a, like I said, a graphical representation as the project moves forward and progresses

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 There may be a situation where along with the mobility plan, there might need to be

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 an additional roadway or improvements to existing old Bonnie Bray, air quotes.

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 At this time, no.

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 What we're proposing or what we've been working with Texton and their design engineer on is

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 actually just having a frontage road connection between...

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 Right there.

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 Can I ask what is the impetus to move it 200 yards to the east?

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 That's based on a request from UNT as well as working with the city.

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 This intersection is close to the 77 intersection now.

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 This provides for a greater development as well as when this comes in at a 90 degree

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 angle at 77.

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 This makes this connection much more safer, much better, yes.

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 We are anticipating traffic control at 77 and Bonnie Bray.

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 There will be a traffic signal at that location.

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 It doesn't face six and right at 77.

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 It does end at 77.

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 Our anticipation is that folks could use Bonnie Bray all the way even from where Bonnie Bray

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 hits 35 down near the Textot office, use Bonnie Bray all the way north to get on the loop

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 or you could come up all the way 35 and then get on the loop.

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 It's just another access point.

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 Are you pulling out the old Bonnie Bray in that segment?

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 This part?

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 Condemned and returned to grass?

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 Are you talking about the existing portion that's to the west?

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 That will know...

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 We're working through.

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 We've asked to keep the connection to 77, so the driveway connection, the roadway connection

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 to 77, that will be something we work through as a design process, but our anticipation

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 is that that roadway cross section will no longer be there.

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 The right of way will be there, but it'll no longer make the connection to go underneath

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 the loop.

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 Whether the pavement stays, whether that becomes a way that's a dead end or a cul-de-sac so

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 folks could develop on either side, those determinations have not been made.

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 That's one thing.

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 It'll work itself out over time, I think.

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 Yes, but putting a positive plan on that is always better than being reactive.

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 I just don't think we're quite there yet.

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 If we could go to the 288 East and 380.

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 For those segments, are we widening those interchanges at Locust and Sherman, or that

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 No, they will be reconstructed at the interchanges, yes.

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 We're tying in to what's there as well as making improvements, so anything that can

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 be saved will be saved, but we ultimately want to make the intersection fit the project.

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 Keep in mind, too, this will not all be at grade.

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 There will be some elevation to this, so some of it will be bridge connections, some of

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 it will be overpass, some of it will be braided ramps, those types of things.

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 Not everything will be at grade, and it's in a very preliminary state at this point,

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 so when you see the overall schematic, it's more of here's the cross section that will

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 fit within the right of way that's anticipated, and those details will be worked out through

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 the design phase.

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 Schematic phase is really more of a graphical representation.

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 Until you get to 30% design and really even 60% design, 65 is what they call plans adequate,

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 a lot of those details will not be worked out, and it could be up to a year from now.

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 We're expecting the environmental clearance in July 2025, so that's two years from now,

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 then start the detailed design, so yes, approximately one year before the 60% schematic would be

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 finalized, and that's when we set the right of way footprint from there.

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 Given that, and given the sort of nebulous nature and the incomplete design process,

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 the next part of this question is going to allude to what was in the paper and what you

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 and I have discussed before separately, and that is the amount of right of way and the

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 residential parcels, some of the retail and DASD parcels right along those segments.

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 Do we have sufficient right of way, or we're going to have to domain in the domain things?

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 Right now it's just currently, this is all a textile project, but right now it's currently

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 very schematic in nature, so they're looking at is the roadway cross section 110 feet,

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 is it 135, is it 300 feet, but what they have done is brought to us different examples of

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 areas where there's one area if you drive throughout that corridor, homes are built

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 very close to the edge.

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 So what they've done is a modified cross section to actually allow for the roadway section

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 to be more narrow in that area so that there won't be the impact to the homes in those

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 areas.

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 So those are things that they will evaluate through design is are there things that they

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 can do to make the lanes more narrow or not have as much median between the frontage road

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 and the main lanes.

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 So they're evaluating all those things and they've already submitted to us an actual

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 cross section to evaluate that's narrow in that area.

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 Our goal with this project is to have not only the main lanes and the frontage road,

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 but also a side path throughout this entire area.

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 Keep in mind there's large transmission poles also in this area and large water line transmission,

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 and so all of those conversations are happening.

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 We've actually taken their overview of their schematic and put the water and wastewater

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 infrastructure and DME infrastructure on those drawings and started having some of those

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 very preliminary conversations of this is going to be a very hot area for the city because

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 we can't have this impact.

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 We've already told them you can't construct during these timeframes because we have water

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 supply concerns.

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 So those conversations are already- Utility point is very important on this

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 project.

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 So we've been having those conversations.

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 It'll be up to TxDOT once they look at the final right away cross section, but they're

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 very cognizant of the fact that there are homes in these areas.

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 And you'll see it when you look at the schematic, and we're happy to point that out and show

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 those things to you where the cross section, and when I say the cross section, the roadway

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 cross section, where it's actually been narrowed instead of the ultimate to make sure that

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 it is looking into the homes that are on the south and the north side of that roadway.

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 Okay, and then you and I and Scott had this conversation before about the extension, the

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 on-ramp from 380 on to 288 on the east, starting around Mayhill-ish, no, it's east of Mayhill.

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 So is that alignment firmed since we discussed-

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 No.

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 ... at least at the time, where the development on the 288-

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 Right.

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 Originally there was a connection farther to the west, and then that's what I was saying

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 a little bit earlier, is we're working through the development with the city.

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 So this alignment that you see here is in a feasibility portion, so it's a little farther

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 back than the schematic and environmental on the main part of the loop.

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 There's really a difference.

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 It's going to go through more evaluation still, and that's what's going to be presented tomorrow

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 night also.

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 Yeah, and I would just add to that that there are still both alignments.

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 One was the schematic version of the alignment.

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 It's still there, yes.

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 And then this is the revised version as an alternate location, and the purpose of tomorrow's

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 meeting is to receive feedback to understand kind of what the community feels as far as-

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 And the individuals who are present, they also have that opportunity for public comment

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 to say this is an impact versus this is an impact, but both of those routes are still

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 going to be a part of the evaluation process throughout the entire public meeting in that

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 phase, and they'll give a timeframe.

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 And you'll see both of those on the schematic, so it's very hard to understand, and it also

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 is a process many times that obviously residents, council, et cetera, they're trying to understand,

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 okay, well, when is this going to happen?

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 What's the impact?

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 How is this impacting the development community?

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 How is this impacting my home?

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 I currently live there, et cetera.

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 That's why both of the schematics exist.

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 I will also tell you that we meet monthly with Barry, the design firm who's actually

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 working on this for the county, TextDOT, UNT's present, and have a meeting to actually go

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 through with development services team and transportation planning, and review every

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 single development that's come along that entire cross-section, so we can be letting

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 them know, hey, we've just received this development application, hey, we're working on this capital

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 project.

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 So we're doing monthly check-ins at the schematic phase, even though it's very preliminary,

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 just so they're aware of the types of development we're seeing and where those locations are.

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 Those are separate from our regular meetings, which are hour, two-hour long meetings every

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 month.

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 I appreciate you all doing that because there's so much development coming in there, and building

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 something new and then eminent domain it like a year later is really foolish.

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 That's where the other alignment came from as far as the feasibility.

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 My last question is on the outer loop.

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 When I was at the meeting, it seemed like it was the light blue path, but there's none

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 of the potential paths on here.

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 Has that firmed up since the last meeting?

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 We're still going under the comments.

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 If I remember, I want to say there was 167 different alignments or variations of alignments

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 throughout this corridor, and they're still going through the comments, working with the

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 Corps of Engineers along FM428.

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 So I would say it's going to be several months more before there's even narrowed down to

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 several alignments.

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 Okay.

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 Yeah, and I'd just add, Barry, that the design firm for this project also, we've been meeting

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 with on a fairly regular basis, not monthly.

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 We do meet with them this week on Thursday, and their goal is similar, to ask what capital

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 projects we have in the area.

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 Trevor's team has projects going up 35 to the Milam Road area as a part of the 35 project,

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 but also to find out from our team what are the developments we see in the area, and then

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 I want the development services team to have the opportunity to explain some of the Northeast

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 area plan that they're working on.

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 So we're meeting with them, actually tomorrow, to talk about what the city's doing in those

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 areas and the impacts.

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 We're working to have that open dialogue, so like I mentioned on the previous, is they

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 understand here are the things that are happening within the city of Denton that either could

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 or could not make an impact on what their plans are, what their proposal.

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 At this current time, they're still kind of showing that green, I call it the blob, because

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 there is not an alignment that has been selected.

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 As Barry mentioned, they're going through a number of comments that have been received,

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 and typically they will get it down to a couple of fixed alignments and then have another

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 public conversation.

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 Well, as you know from all these community meetings and the comments that everybody's

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 gotten from the public, there's a lot of, the concern is too strong, but a lot of focus,

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 a lot of interest in North Denton and South Sanger populations on exactly where this is

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 going through, where it's punching through Aubrey and all that.

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 There's a lot of, there's a laser focus on this.

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 Same meetings that Becky had mentioned with all the cities, Aubrey, Salina, Krugerville,

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 Pilot Point, Sanger, Salina, this is part of a regional project also that goes through

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 Collin County, Rockwell County, Kauffman County, all the way down to I-20, which will eventually

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 go through Ellis to 45, I-45.

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 Yeah.

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 It's hard to understand also because we're looking at it specifically within our county

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 or our impacted area, but this roadway is actually shown on the 20-45 mobility plan

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 that NETCOG has and so that's a part of their overall adopted plan for the entire Metroplex

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 and that's the impact he's talking about is it's five or six counties that it actually

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 will go through at some point.

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 I think that's all my questions, I appreciate you.

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 Well, while we were discussing that, I was thinking about that big monstrosity down in

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 Houston where they were having to push out and put additional roads out and Highway 6.

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 I lived maybe about 10 miles from 610 and to see just everything going south and I thought

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 Richmond used to be far away and Katy used to be far away, but I'm appreciating all of

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 this.

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 Aubrey, I'm envisioning a big highway coming through Aubrey, so that'll be interesting

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 to see.

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 There's a lot of planning going in.

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 Fortunately, we're working with the developers through that area.

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 The growth, the projected growth, it's hard to believe how much projected growth that's

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 coming to the area for sure.

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 Well, I don't have any other questions.

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 Thank you so much.

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 I appreciate your time.

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 Thank you, Barry.

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 Okay, thank you.

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 So we'll move on to MC 23-026, receive a report, hold a discussion and give staff direction

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 regarding moving the Mobility Committee meeting time from 10 to 8.

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 All right.

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 Yes, ma'am.

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 So we just wanted to bring this forward.

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 I know there was discussion about changing that as a part of some of the council meeting

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 that happened and then also with the new committee members.

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 So we have the schedule provided for you also to show the meetings that would be left.

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 So we would obviously have August, September, October, November, December.

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 Our plan is to meet the fourth Wednesday of the month except for December because that

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 would be during the Christmas holiday or in between, I should say, Christmas and New Year's

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 holidays.

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 So we're just asking for a direction to formally move the meeting from 10 a.m. to 8 a.m. on

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 that fourth Wednesday of the month.

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 Okay, do you have any questions, any discussion?

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 My understanding is where the timeframe was moving to accommodate members' schedules.

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 So I think that that member isn't here.

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 I don't know if it was here.

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 Was it the last member that was here that's no longer on this committee or?

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 Councilor McGee's schedule?

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 My understanding is Councilmember McGee would like to meet you at 8 a.m. so that he could

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 be able to attend as a part of being a part of this committee, not a previous member of

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 the committee.

410
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 Okay.

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 Okay, good.

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 Well, I don't have a problem with the timeframe of the schedule.

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 I don't either.

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 I'm here.

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 All right.

416
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 Well, I'll move that we accept the new timeframe.

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 Second.

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 Second.

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 All in favor?

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 Aye.

421
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 Aye.

422
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 All right.

423
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 Thank you.

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 That was pretty simple.

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 I'll move down to MC 23-021, staff memorandum.

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 Awesome.

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 So Trevor is going to present the first couple of items of Bonnie Bray and Hickory, and then

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 Brett has an entire couple of pages of items that were brought up as agenda items.

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 And then we'll close out with any future items that you have.

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 So Trevor, we'll turn it over to you.

431
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 Sure.

432
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 So good morning.

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 Trevor Crane, Director of Capital Projects.

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 So I'm going to go through the first couple, and then as Becky said, I'll turn it over

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 to Brett to go through the last couple.

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 So the first update we have is Bonnie Bray.

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 So Bonnie Bray Phase 3, we advertised that for bid in April.

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 You should see that construction contract coming to you in August, August 15th.

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 And then we anticipate construction beginning in Q3 of this year, pending that approval

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 of that contract.

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 Bonnie Bray Phase 6, we're on track to advertise for bid in Quarter 3 of this year.

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 We're working through a couple of final right-of-way issues, and then we've gotten -- we're just

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 waiting on the letter of approval from TxDOT.

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 So move -- or the state letter of authority to move forward with that.

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 So both of those projects are really close, and I'm sure to have those under construction

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 this year.

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 Both of those projects have an approximate two-year construction timeline and are anticipated

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 to be completed in Quarter 3 of 2025.

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 And then moving on to Hickory Creek Road Phase 3, that project's moving forward, not much

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 to update there.

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 We are estimating completion in Quarter 1 of 2025, and then the last time we talked

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 about there was a -- some county roadway construction going on that has been completed, and so we're

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 moving forward with our schedule.

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 And then, did y'all have any questions on those two, or you want to do those at the

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 end, Becky?

456
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 >> No, I'm fine.

457
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 Go ahead and ask questions.

458
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 >> Okay.

459
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 >> I have a -- I don't know.

460
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 This is a kindergarten-level question.

461
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 >> That's okay.

462
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 >> I know we talk about Phase 3 and Phase 6.

463
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 Have we done Phase 4 and 5, or what is that?

464
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 >> So Phase 4 was actually broken into two projects, 4A and 4B.

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 4A was the roundabout.

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 So that project has been completed.

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 4B is from -- is from I-35 to the roundabout going north.

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 That project is currently under design, we're at about 90%.

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 And then Phase 5 is from the roundabout north to 380.

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 That project is under design as well, about 30%.

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 Both of those projects we submitted as a part of the 2023 county trip funding, and that

472
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120
 funding was approved.

473
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,040
 So we're moving forward with those designs right now.

474
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,160
 We don't -- I don't really want to push those too fast, since we're about to have a portion

475
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,020
 south of that under construction on Bonnebray and Bonnebray 6 on the north side.

476
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:48,640
 So we're trying to kind of stagger out that construction so I don't have that whole corridor

477
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
 under construction at the same time.

478
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,880
 >> I was pretty basically concerned about the new population that's coming up.

479
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:02,960
 I know that they're starting to build town homes and over on that Phase 5 area.

480
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960
 >> Yes, ma'am.

481
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,680
 >> So we'll wait until -- it looks like we can wait until they all get settled in and

482
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,160
 then start working on the road.

483
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,160
 >> Right.

484
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,680
 >> That's just kind of like a common sense type thing.

485
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,080
 >> Yeah, as Becky said, we coordinate with all of those developers, developments as they

486
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,960
 come in so they understand where the road's going and what type of right of way we need

487
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,600
 and those types of things so that we're not kind of stepping on each other's toes and

488
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,600
 those types of things.

489
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,600
 >> Okay.

490
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,600
 All right, do you have any other questions?

491
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,880
 >> I do and it's one that you spurred.

492
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:38,520
 For our -- any of our bridges, our roadways near riparian areas, in our pre-development,

493
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:44,160
 is it the practice for our development that we have to do cultural resource management,

494
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,320
 CRM work along those areas?

495
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,040
 >> Sure.

496
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,960
 So all of those projects are run through really kind of the whole gambit of all that stuff.

497
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:01,280
 So we have our own -- I don't know what Christy's called, but the resource management and the

498
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,800
 riparian buffers and all those types of things.

499
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,980
 So they're reviewing all those plans.

500
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:10,120
 They're making sure that, you know, we're not disturbing any ESAs or anything like that.

501
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,160
 So we've had to do mitigation on other projects.

502
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,720
 We've had to shut down projects to do archeological and those types of things.

503
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:21,360
 So all of these projects are being run through -- run through the appropriate people to make

504
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,840
 sure that we're checking all those boxes.

505
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,840
 >> Okay, and I -- this is just more of a general question.

506
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,920
 But because we're a government entity, we're still -- I mean, I know at the state level

507
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,400
 you're required to do archeology and CRM work, but for funded projects, I didn't know at

508
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,440
 the city level if we are also required to do that on our projects.

509
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,260
 >> I think only when necessary.

510
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:51,080
 So depending on where the project is, if it's in a specific location that I guess has been

511
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:59,200
 slated or identified as possibly having that, then we have to do those -- we do those exploratory

512
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,840
 and if we find something, then of course we have to continue down that path.

513
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:13,040
 >> But a survey is not necessarily always part of the project generally?

514
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,040
 >> I would say yes.

515
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,040
 >> Okay.

516
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,480
 That's all my questions.

517
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,480
 >> Okay.

518
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,480
 Perfect.

519
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,800
 So thank you to our deputy engineer to do the next part.

520
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,800
 Thank you.

521
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,800
 >> All right.

522
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,800
 Thank you.

523
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,800
 >> All right.

524
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,800
 Good morning.

525
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:36,120
 I'm Brett Bourgeois, the deputy city engineer, and I'm here to discuss the -- you guys had

526
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,600
 a question on the bollards that we have around the city.

527
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,800
 So we actually have about 400 different bollard projects that we've deployed on the city,

528
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080
 and I'll kind of just go through each one individually and so we can kind of talk about

529
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,080
 each one.

530
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,420
 So the first one we're trying to talk about is the one on Old North.

531
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:56,680
 That project came up from community complaints regarding speeding and kind of a confusing

532
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,400
 roadway section where we have very wide shoulders and two drive lanes.

533
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,200
 It's kind of a shared shoulder type of situation, so it can be parking, it can be pedestrian,

534
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,360
 it's kind of this multi-use shoulder configuration.

535
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,080
 So we got a lot of complaints regarding speeding.

536
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,000
 We've had some pictures and videos of vehicles driving in the shoulder as a drive lane.

537
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360
 So it's kind of a confusing situation there.

538
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,720
 So we did have community meetings.

539
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,600
 We did put out different signage.

540
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,920
 We tried to address the speeding with the signage.

541
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,920
 Those were not working.

542
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,120
 So we did have the community meeting.

543
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,440
 We asked, you know, community feedback as to what that road characteristic they want

544
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,440
 it to look like.

545
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,440
 Do they want sidewalks?

546
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,440
 Do they want bike lanes?

547
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,440
 Do they want parking?

548
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,320
 Do they want -- what do they want?

549
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,040
 They kind of wanted everything, so it kind of really made a challenging situation for

550
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,000
 us to come up with a solution.

551
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,640
 So we came up with something kind of unique where we did a test section to try to visually

552
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,920
 narrow the roadway intersections to get vehicles to slow down, but still provide the multi-use

553
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600
 functionality of that shared shoulder.

554
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
 So we did a test section out there for a few months.

555
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,040
 We studied the speeding behaviors through that test section.

556
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,320
 We noticed the test section had a reduction in speed, but sections outside that had an

557
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,600
 increase in speed, so we figured that's because vehicles were making up lost time for having

558
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,160
 to slow down.

559
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,580
 So that gave us kind of the green light to go ahead, let's put the bollards out along

560
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,000
 the whole roadway, and let's, you know, observe it and follow it.

561
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,800
 So we've been doing that.

562
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400
 We have seen a moderate reduction in speed.

563
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,280
 It's kind of been hit and miss throughout the area, but we are continuing to monitor

564
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000
 it.

565
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160
 We did receive some complaints early on in the project.

566
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,960
 One of the ones, I got a phone call from a resident in the neighborhood, very frustrated,

567
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,560
 she doesn't understand the reason for it, she goes, it's not a bike lane, it's not a

568
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,560
 parking lane.

569
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,560
 So what this is doing, all it does is make the intersections narrower and slow people

570
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,560
 slow down.

571
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,460
 It's like that's exactly what we're trying to do.

572
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:50,880
 That was the whole goal of the project.

573
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,680
 So far it seems to be working.

574
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,280
 We'll continue to watch it.

575
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,160
 It's another tool in our toolbox to see if it can be used on other roadways.

576
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:05,800
 Every roadway is kind of a different situation, so we evaluate each one as necessary.

577
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,840
 The other one is over here on Parkway, outside here, we have the new on-street trail that

578
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,320
 we put in.

579
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,160
 So this was a project that was actually conceived, I want to say in 2019, by previous staff.

580
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:24,040
 It got lost in the shuffle during COVID, became a lower priority, and then in 2022 we decided

581
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,440
 to revive this project.

582
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,240
 We looked at reconfiguring it different than what was originally conceived and come up

583
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,860
 with a different solution.

584
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:39,160
 And so when we looked at the roadway section, there was a sidewalk connectivity we have,

585
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,680
 and the north side of Parkway there was very little sidewalk, and the south side had a

586
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,240
 pretty significant amount of sidewalk.

587
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:51,400
 So the decision was made to reconfigure the on-street trail to push it to the north side

588
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,900
 of the roadway.

589
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:55,520
 We held a community meeting, nobody attended.

590
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,880
 We had two questions via email that we responded to, so we made a video and posted it online

591
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,400
 about what the project's going to be and the thoughts and the ideas behind it.

592
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,600
 And then we kicked that design off.

593
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,240
 We had to reshuffle some staff, so the design kind of lagged a little bit, but we got the

594
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,580
 design completed in the fall.

595
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:19,120
 We held another community meeting over the winter months prior to construction.

596
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,800
 We had a fairly significant turnout for that community meeting.

597
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,360
 We had a bike dent and advocacy group attended the meeting, and they brought a lot of members

598
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,700
 and they were very supportive of the project and excited to see it get installed.

599
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:31,920
 We did get it installed.

600
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,200
 The initial response was confusing at first because it was in the middle of construction,

601
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,200
 so people didn't know how to function it yet or how to use it.

602
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,240
 So all the construction's completed, all the punchless items are done, the ramps are completed,

603
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:46,520
 the striping's all completed.

604
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:52,520
 So we haven't had any complaints since the project was completed, it was just the in-construction

605
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,080
 confusion we had.

606
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,660
 And then we also noticed that there was some issues with vehicles and drivers not knowing

607
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:59,600
 how to drive that roadway now.

608
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
 We had people parking in the bike lane.

609
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,320
 We had construction vehicles staging in the bike lane.

610
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:11,720
 So it took some time for the community to learn how this roadway functions.

611
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:13,900
 So far we haven't had any complaints on it.

612
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:16,680
 We do see people using it because it's right outside our office.

613
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,920
 We've had members of the Traffic Safety Commission be appreciative of it because they use it

614
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,860
 also and they have noticed it.

615
00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,160
 So so far it's been a very successful project.

616
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,200
 We'll continue to monitor it and look at ways to improve our overall network connectivity

617
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,120
 for bike ped facilities around the city.

618
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,160
 So that also supports the 10 minute walk initiative to Quaker Town Park.

619
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,800
 So it provides a lot of benefits.

620
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,960
 The other two, so the other ones talk about is West Hickory Street.

621
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,280
 That's the main bike lanes down there by UNT.

622
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,000
 So originally this project was part of the 2012-2014 bond and the project was originally

623
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,880
 scoped as just a remove and replace the roadway.

624
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,280
 And so when they started the first part of the project over on the east side or the west

625
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:08,040
 side of Denton coming from I think Bonnie Bray or yeah, Bonnie Bray areas going west

626
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,760
 or going east, it was just remove the road, replace the road.

627
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,360
 But we had community feedback during construction like why are we not adding bike ped facilities?

628
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,520
 So the decision was made to add those bike ped facilities, add the bollards and add the

629
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,040
 bike dedicated bike lane.

630
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,040
 It was a little bit challenging because it wasn't initially designed that way and we

631
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,000
 didn't have the right of way necessary to make it a continuous path on the east on the

632
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,960
 west side of the project.

633
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,360
 The project was cut into two halves.

634
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:41,360
 The second half kicked off continuing that bike lane from Welch, Welch Street was the

635
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,360
 cutoff point.

636
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,360
 Yeah.

637
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440
 So from Welch Street all the way to Carroll, the bike lane was designed as part of it to

638
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,040
 make it continuous.

639
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,280
 So they actually did a pretty good job of trying to fit this into the field.

640
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,240
 It wasn't initially scoped that way or designed that way, but we did get it all in.

641
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:59,320
 It seems to be a very successful project, especially down there in the UNT area with

642
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,880
 a lot of pedestrians.

643
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,000
 Unfortunately, we don't have pre-numbers or pre-analysis of what it was used before

644
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000
 to where it is now.

645
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,640
 So we can't really just talk about the effectiveness of it other than just observations and empirical

646
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,640
 data.

647
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,160
 So we don't have anything where to compare previous conditions to existing conditions.

648
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,720
 And then the other one is on Hinkle Drive and that was kind of a similar situation where

649
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:28,560
 it was part of the 2012, 2014 bond and it was actually a drainage project.

650
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,320
 And the goal was to put the roadway back the way it was.

651
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
 But the community said, "Hey, why don't you add another bike lane here?"

652
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,840
 And it provides connectivity up to North Lakes Park.

653
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,080
 It provides connectivity up to Windsor Street, which is a fairly good bike ped corridor with

654
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,960
 a lot of facilities on it.

655
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,220
 And it also connects to the shopping center down off of 380 and Hinkle.

656
00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:54,740
 So the decision was made to add the bike lane on that project during construction again.

657
00:45:54,740 --> 00:46:00,160
 We actually had the right-of-way width, the road width, so we shifted parking to one side

658
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,040
 and put bike lane on the east side of Hinkle.

659
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,280
 And so again, that was kind of an infield change decision during construction.

660
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,680
 So that was, again, wasn't designed or intended that way, but we made it work and was able

661
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
 to incorporate that now.

662
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,220
 Lessons learned from those two projects is that we always look at bike ped facilities

663
00:46:18,220 --> 00:46:19,840
 now whenever we do a project.

664
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,680
 So these are ones that were historic, were originally scoped and funded.

665
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,040
 Not to include those, but we were able to accommodate them, and everything we do going

666
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,100
 forward is including bike ped facilities.

667
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,640
 And then...

668
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,920
 Are you saying bike ped facilities?

669
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,920
 Yes.

670
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,920
 Oh, okay.

671
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:47,520
 Yes, that could be a side path, on-street trail, bike lanes, including some form of

672
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,080
 multimodal access besides just vehicles.

673
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:58,400
 And then to give an update on the hiring of our senior planner, bicycle pedestrian ADA

674
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,960
 coordinator position, we've had a pool of candidates.

675
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,920
 We've conducted many interviews.

676
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,400
 We've actually extended two offers to two different candidates, both declined for reasons

677
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,800
 outside of our control.

678
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,440
 One had actually both personal reasons as to why they declined.

679
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,320
 So unfortunately, we haven't been able to fill that role.

680
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,280
 During that time, we've decided to pull down the application to revise the job description,

681
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,280
 to repost it.

682
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,820
 And we're looking at the different organization structure and who's going to report to and

683
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:34,920
 how the city is going to function, and we're going to repost that position and fill that.

684
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,920
 Any other questions?

685
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,920
 Any questions?

686
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:47,840
 Yes, I have a question, are there any bike pit connecting to one another at all right

687
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,840
 now?

688
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,360
 Or is everything just, it looks like there's things just this here and over here and over

689
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,360
 here and over there.

690
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,000
 Does anything connect to another path at all yet?

691
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,560
 So in terms of the dedicated baller projects, none of those are actually connected right

692
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,560
 now, but they do connect to other bike ped facilities.

693
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,880
 So for example, is we're working on a project that we have funded through DCTA trip funding

694
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,680
 to improve sidewalks along Carroll, which will provide the connection from West Hickory

695
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,200
 along Carroll to the Parkway area.

696
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,680
 So it's not going to be a ballered bike ped project, but it's going to be improved sidewalks

697
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,680
 along there.

698
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,440
 So when we look at the overall network connectivity, we don't just look at the ballered bike lanes,

699
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,280
 we look at the side paths, the sidewalks, the on-street bike trails, the shared lanes

700
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,920
 to make sure we have a network of different facilities.

701
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,160
 They might not all look the same, but it's a way that people can navigate the city either

702
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:50,400
 by bicycle or walking.

703
00:48:50,400 --> 00:49:01,200
 Do you all have a priority list for what's going to be next?

704
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,620
 How do you all work that?

705
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:06,920
 Do you just wait until somebody calls in with a complaint or?

706
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,920
 No.

707
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,040
 So we do have a sidewalk work plan, which we did outlining the condition of all the

708
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,320
 sidewalks and the bicycle pedestrian facilities throughout the city.

709
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
 So we have areas that we know are deficient and areas that we know are in pretty good

710
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,960
 condition.

711
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000
 And then we look at the areas that we have gaps that we don't have anything.

712
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,400
 And so these projects are much more cost effective if we bundle them with roadway projects because

713
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,520
 you're mobilizing construction equipment, having to do check down a roadway a lot of

714
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,520
 times.

715
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:41,400
 So we try to bundle our projects with roadway projects and to get more bang for our buck.

716
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:47,120
 So we can come in and build new side paths, new sidewalks, new bike trails at the same

717
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
 time that we're reconstructing our roadway.

718
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,600
 And so every project that we look at from a roadway is, okay, we need to add bike ped

719
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,600
 facilities here.

720
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,240
 Does it need to be a side path on which side of the road?

721
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,080
 Does it need to be a bike lane on what side of the road?

722
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,560
 How's that going to connect to our existing infrastructure?

723
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,760
 Sometimes what we do is that we also fund through like the DCTA trip funding where we

724
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,600
 look at, okay, what is our bike ped connectivity?

725
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,200
 What are projects that can improve that?

726
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,180
 We submit those projects to DCTA.

727
00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:18,160
 We've won many of them.

728
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,640
 We are working through those and designing construction on a lot of those right now.

729
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,800
 So we have some on loop 288 that we're doing.

730
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,160
 We have the one at Carroll Boulevard that we're designing.

731
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,720
 We're filling in those gaps as best we can.

732
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:38,280
 We do have a goal for the overall bike ped network.

733
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,440
 We want to make a continuous, think of us like a wheel, like a north-south connectivity

734
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,560
 from downtown through the city and east-west connectivity and then build out from there.

735
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,680
 Oh, that sounds cool.

736
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,360
 So we're working towards that.

737
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,560
 That's part of all these projects are eventually going to build out to a complete network.

738
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,720
 It's just we're trying to take advantage of tacking onto other projects and other bigger

739
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:06,800
 projects where our contribution is smaller to the overall project scope versus having

740
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,720
 to pay a higher mobilization costs, all the other kind of things.

741
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:10,720
 All right.

742
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:11,720
 Thank you so much.

743
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:16,600
 I wanted to also mention that the mobility plan and ADA transition plan is also being

744
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,760
 evaluated throughout all of these projects.

745
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:27,620
 So we're looking at where their specific projects that were either listed in that massive list

746
00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:34,440
 of projects for the ADA transition plan or on the mobility plan because we have a map

747
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,000
 specifically to bicycle or pedestrian.

748
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,160
 Those are all evaluations.

749
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,040
 So we have that as a part of our planning phase when we go through projects.

750
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,960
 As Brett mentioned though, right now we're seeing a lot of success with adding them to

751
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:52,560
 existing projects and then also allocating funding with those DCTA trip projects.

752
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:58,040
 I asked Trevor to come up really quickly so that he could talk about the PPI index, which

753
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,980
 is the scoring we use for sidewalks.

754
00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:02,160
 So I thought that would be something he could explain.

755
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,240
 And as you talked about a work plan, that's kind of how we actually facilitate the order

756
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,800
 of which the projects are moved forward.

757
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,800
 Right.

758
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,620
 So as you can imagine, we get a lot of requests for sidewalks and those types of things.

759
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:20,080
 So we wanted to be able to put some data behind and have some data-driven decisions as far

760
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:25,520
 as where we spend that money that we get instead of just kind of being reactive and going out

761
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,000
 and fixing this spot and this spot.

762
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:33,380
 So what we did is we worked with a consultant to create what we call a PPI score.

763
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:39,960
 And what it does is it takes into account proximity to, let's say, a school or a DCTA

764
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:47,760
 bus stop, or I think there's seven different criteria where we find what they call like

765
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
 a goat path, where people are walking where there's no path.

766
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,280
 So all those things are rated, there's all these scores, and then we give each of those

767
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,040
 sidewalks a rating, how many of those criteria they meet, and then depending on how many

768
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,020
 they meet, that brings it up or down that sidewalk work plan.

769
00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:09,400
 So that's really how we try to prioritize those sidewalks so that we're making those

770
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:17,320
 data-driven decisions, trying to address the areas that need to be addressed first that

771
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,320
 show the highest need.

772
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,320
 Okay.

773
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,320
 Thank you.

774
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,320
 Yes, ma'am.

775
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,320
 All right.

776
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,320
 Go ahead.

777
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,320
 So many questions.

778
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,320
 So many questions.

779
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,320
 Especially for Brett.

780
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,320
 Yes.

781
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,320
 Yes.

782
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,320
 Let me start with the last first.

783
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,000
 I'm glad that you two brought up the PPI index.

784
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,120
 I was going to bring it up, so I appreciate that.

785
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:44,480
 Before the destination planning, the desire path planning that's going on that correlates

786
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,160
 with the PPI, is that in one of our GIS layers, or do we have it as a static map that we can

787
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:56,600
 get out to the public where we can say, "Yes, here's the bike ped map you're already familiar

788
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:03,160
 with, but here's sort of our prioritization based on PPI that we can get out so people

789
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:08,440
 can start changing their behavior in advance of the mobility plan rolling out?"

790
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,440
 Yes.

791
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,880
 So we do have a sidewalk work plan story map, which goes to GIS connected, showing all the

792
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,480
 sidewalks what the rankings are in terms of the PPI score.

793
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,040
 And then the one thing that we are working on is updating that map as projects are completed.

794
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,440
 We actually just got a GIS technician not too long ago, so we're getting through and

795
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,880
 getting all the past projects completed that we've done onto that story map, onto that

796
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,120
 GIS layer.

797
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:38,040
 And as we do projects, we'll make sure we update them or revise that map as necessary.

798
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:45,360
 I think the other thing I would add is there are several different, I guess, pieces of

799
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,880
 data or data sets.

800
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,680
 And so you have the mobility plan, and it has kind of a plan, a pie in the sky, "Hey,

801
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,120
 this is our dream."

802
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,320
 And then you have a sidewalk work plan that says, "This is the areas of which we think

803
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,180
 we need to have projects."

804
00:54:59,180 --> 00:55:02,880
 And then you have the projects that are being planned through the capital program.

805
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,640
 You have the projects that Ethan's team is doing from a maintenance and operation standpoint.

806
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,920
 You have existing sidewalk.

807
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,920
 You have gaps.

808
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,040
 We have developers that were saying, "No, you can't develop without building a sidewalk."

809
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,900
 There's a lot of competing things that are happening all at once.

810
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:23,680
 So with Ryan Drumgold, our GIS technician, he has actually been taking all that data

811
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,320
 and putting it into one GIS layer.

812
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,520
 I think to your point, kind of after we're all confident and we're working through kind

813
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:38,120
 of that QA/QC right now, and a lot of this is due to the filing having an individual

814
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,480
 has the ability to make this thing happen, one, so we're very happy to have that staff,

815
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,560
 but two, you know, seeing the big picture and pulling all these different documentations

816
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:53,400
 together, you know, working through the bicycle and pedestrian safety audit, also being able

817
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,560
 to explain and kind of talk through that story.

818
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,840
 I think the next step for us would be, and maybe I'm maybe reading into more of what

819
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,840
 you're saying than I should be, but I think maybe the next area where I'd like to really

820
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,320
 focus is, as Brett was mentioning, as those projects are completed, having that more as

821
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:16,400
 an outward-facing, "Hey, I'm bike-ditting or I'm a part of the bicycle community.

822
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,680
 Here's a route I can take."

823
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,120
 So our goal would be if you're on the south side of town, how do you get to the north

824
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:28,240
 side of the town, east to the west, or I get off the DCTA A train down by Hickory Street,

825
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:32,320
 kind of more on the, I guess, middle part of town, but I want to get to UNT or I want

826
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,840
 to get to TWU, can I click on a map, click on a layer, and it show me the network so

827
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,800
 I know what is the existing network that I could use?

828
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,360
 So I think that would be our next step.

829
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,360
 That is where it was going.

830
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,360
 Okay.

831
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,360
 Well, I was reading your mind.

832
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,360
 Very ambitious.

833
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:52,560
 No, and I think it's just, I mean, so that there's pent-up demand and people want to

834
00:56:52,560 --> 00:57:00,520
 be able to, well, a section of our community wants to be able to make better use of any

835
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:06,960
 lessening of the density on the roadways is going to be good for many departments.

836
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:16,760
 For the Old North, full disclosure, I am the community feedback that they were referencing.

837
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:23,800
 I'm not the only one, but I was the funnel for lots of people along the Old North corridor,

838
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:34,520
 and I did send in the pictures, but a couple of questions on that regard in, I know one

839
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,000
 of the things that, before Nathan left, that we were talking about is alternative striping

840
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:45,620
 plans that would augment some of what you found with the bollards.

841
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:51,320
 Is that sort of down the road a bit while we wait on this new position, or we're moving

842
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:57,920
 ahead with concepts about alternative striping, like one bike lane, one park lane, or, you

843
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,200
 know, he mentioned a lot of things, so this is, I understand it's not a concrete thing.

844
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,200
 Yeah.

845
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:09,400
 So, when we looked at the layout for Old North, we did evaluate, you know, different alternatives

846
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,880
 in terms of at least conceptually how would it look to put a different bike lane or put

847
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,160
 a parking.

848
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,720
 The feedback we got was pretty much consistent, that everybody wanted parking on both sides,

849
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,800
 they wanted bike lanes on both sides, they wanted sidewalks on both sides, and we couldn't

850
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:30,360
 really make all that happen without taking right of way to add sidewalks, so the first

851
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,640
 step was to put the bollards at the intersections to try to reduce the traffic speed and to

852
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,200
 provide a physical barrier to prevent vehicles from driving in that lane as a drive lane,

853
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,200
 essentially.

854
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,000
 We haven't gone to the next step yet in looking at the striping.

855
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,320
 We're evaluating how the performance of the bollards are.

856
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,400
 Once we do get the bike ped coordinated around, we will definitely go back and look at that

857
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,760
 situation and work with our transportation planning department in terms of what else

858
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,760
 can be done.

859
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,480
 We actually did just hire a transportation engineer again, so he'll help out in that

860
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,160
 process of looking at alternatives for that roadway as well.

861
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,000
 I appreciate that, and so some feedback I got from the community is they've noticed

862
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,600
 the speed dropping anecdotally because they're not out there with radars, but it does seem

863
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,240
 like they're positive to me about that.

864
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,400
 One of the things, and I've mentioned this to Trevor, I don't know, half a dozen times,

865
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,880
 they don't like the look of them.

866
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,880
 I know.

867
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:37,960
 I don't know what we have in the way of different visual options.

868
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,720
 They do have to be a safety-related item.

869
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:41,720
 They do need to be reflective.

870
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,520
 They do need to be visible.

871
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960
 If we make them blend in too much, then obviously people, they're not going to function.

872
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:54,560
 People are not going to see them, so we are kind of limited on those aspects of it.

873
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,320
 We can look into other options or other alternatives and see what else is available.

874
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,880
 We'd have to do some research on that and see what other options are available in terms

875
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,880
 of colorations.

876
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,520
 I mean, I don't know, white and yellow and orange are kind of the standard colors because

877
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,600
 they provide high contrast and high visibility.

878
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:16,080
 You don't like my pinwheels that I taped to the ones outside my yard?

879
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:23,320
 I shouldn't admit that on video tape.

880
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,240
 The next question, well, not question, comment.

881
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:33,320
 Like you, I got a lot of positive, not early on positive feedback, but later positive feedback

882
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,960
 on the parkway striping.

883
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,760
 Just lots of people stopped me and said they're really stoked and happy about that.

884
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,280
 I don't know what sort of feedback you all have been getting, but I'm adding to that

885
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,480
 that it's filtering up to counsel that they like that.

886
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:55,040
 We take it, usually we only hear complaints, so we don't get a lot of positive feedback.

887
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,120
 When we see complaints significantly drop off, we're assuming that the functionality

888
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,280
 is good and people like it, so we take that as a good sign that people are adapting to

889
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,800
 it and enjoying the facilities.

890
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:20,360
 Let's see, let's skip that one because that's just an extra comment.

891
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:28,260
 The question I had was about the bike lane right away and pathing there near the roundabout

892
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:30,000
 in Hinkle.

893
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:36,040
 All that is resolved with the neighbor in the tree that had to come out and all that

894
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,320
 settled down.

895
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,680
 I haven't honestly driven through the roundabout in a while.

896
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,880
 Yes, that's all been taken care of.

897
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,480
 The tree was removed, the sidewalk's been installed and that's been done, I don't know,

898
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:52,440
 Danny, six months, eight, a couple of months, so two years, okay, so it's been longer than

899
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,440
 I thought.

900
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,440
 I don't remember.

901
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,440
 Apparently I haven't driven down Hinkle in a while.

902
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,440
 It's been two years.

903
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,440
 Or my time here.

904
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,440
 Or I didn't pay attention.

905
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,440
 I have gone to the movie theater.

906
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,440
 I drive up and down Windsor and Hinkle, so I have gone to the movie theater, so I have

907
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,600
 driven it, but I guess I didn't pay attention.

908
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,080
 James is keeping us honest this morning.

909
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,080
 I don't remember either.

910
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,600
 I do remember it coming to council, but I don't remember the timeframe, so thank you, James.

911
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,600
 That's fair and now I'm embarrassed.

912
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,600
 Me too.

913
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,200
 Time is not our friend.

914
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:30,160
 On the bike ped coordinator, I know you there at the end, you mentioned that there might

915
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:36,400
 be some restructuring or Brett mentioned that there might be some restructuring of the org

916
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:44,400
 chart a little bit, but so do we have any, I don't recall you mentioning a timeframe

917
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:51,240
 for when that was happening and the only reason I bring this up at all is I know that Nathan

918
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:58,240
 had started a lot of positively received activities, you know, positive inside the department,

919
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:05,520
 positive in the community and I want to make sure that we maintain the momentum that Nathan

920
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:13,360
 developed and that we don't sort of lose that as we restructure, so you know, it's more

921
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,440
 of a please more comment than anything else.

922
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,440
 Sure.

923
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,120
 Nathan did an excellent job.

924
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,960
 We were very sad to see him go.

925
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,580
 He did write an entire document of all of the things that he saw, positive, negative.

926
01:03:28,580 --> 01:03:31,940
 We have all of his information projects.

927
01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:37,680
 We coordinate heavily with transportation planning and as those things are rolled out

928
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,960
 through the city manager's office of any modifications that they'll be making organizationally,

929
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:48,160
 positions, et cetera, I know that those will be things that you'll be made aware of, but

930
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:54,260
 we don't anticipate slowing down the momentum, only to grow with the additional staff if

931
01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:57,880
 that is what moves forward.

932
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,800
 So I think the good thing is that there are still several of us here that worked with

933
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,680
 Nathan and as those opportunities, whether that's a new individual, et cetera, we'll

934
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,200
 still continue working through those things, so definitely want to keep moving that in

935
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,220
 the right direction and keep that momentum and I think a lot of these ideas and things

936
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:23,560
 that have been worked on, Brett mentioned several of them today, you have to keep in

937
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:29,720
 mind one of the things is not only have we adopted the mobility plan, the comp plan,

938
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,080
 the parks trials master plan, the other thing is is TechStats now made it standard on their

939
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:39,720
 projects as of November of 2021 that they're going to allow for sidewalks and side paths,

940
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,320
 so that's not even something standard.

941
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,360
 So it's an entire mind frame shift.

942
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,800
 You'll see projects still being constructed today that are not taking those things into

943
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:54,000
 consideration because they were designed six years ago, five years ago, or they're using

944
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,800
 federal funding and you can't make modifications to the plans at the state that they're in,

945
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,080
 but you'll see where our entire team, that is just a part of our checklist.

946
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,720
 How are we doing BikePed?

947
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,360
 How are we doing the multimodal approach?

948
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,160
 So it's definitely something that has kind of changed the way we think and then we're

949
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,280
 also making those things similarly happen with TechStat and with the county.

950
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:23,600
 So I don't know how this committee works if we put items on the matrix, so I'll revisit

951
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,840
 this at the end if that's how this committee works, but yes, we're about to go through

952
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:29,840
 that.

953
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:36,040
 Then I will just put a placeholder for, since we're talking about sidewalks, to discuss

954
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:43,540
 a side path from the shelter to 380 on the matrix if that's not already in the works.

955
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:46,540
 So I'll hold that for later.

956
01:05:46,540 --> 01:05:48,560
 So I think, Brett, that's all you have, correct?

957
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,280
 I just have one more question, I'm sorry, and I'm just thinking about it.

958
01:05:52,280 --> 01:06:00,160
 I'm thinking about a developer had noted that the sidewalks within the development is five

959
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:09,480
 feet wide, and outside the development there was a request to do 10 feet wide.

960
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:15,120
 And is that something, is this what you're talking about, that the state has changed

961
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,400
 its course about how wide sidewalks should be as part of a development?

962
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,220
 So the state will not be doing typical projects along developments because their corridors

963
01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:32,440
 are mainly larger roadways, where that conversation comes in many times is, there is existing

964
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,360
 sidewalk that's been put in place, but we have city standard details and specifications

965
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,760
 that dictate what should be constructed in what areas based on the mobility plan.

966
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,560
 So you may see a five foot sidewalk that's connecting to a 10 foot side path because

967
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,960
 the city has plans and a future date to change that five foot sidewalk to a 10 foot side

968
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,960
 path.

969
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,760
 So we will ask the developers to build things according to our code and criteria that match

970
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:04,960
 our overall master plans, whether it be the mobility plan, the comprehensive plan, knowing

971
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:10,240
 that at some later date there may be a modification made to that existing five foot sidewalk.

972
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,240
 So we're having people build to the plan or the standard.

973
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,900
 In most cases, there are some that are not, but in most cases that would be in conjunction

974
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:26,760
 with the criteria manuals, specifications, and standard details.

975
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,760
 Thank you very much.

976
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,760
 Thank you.

977
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:29,760
 All righty.

978
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:30,760
 Moving on.

979
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:37,760
 Exhibit two.

980
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,120
 All righty.

981
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,460
 So go through the matrix really quickly.

982
01:07:43,460 --> 01:07:48,720
 So deployment of bicycle bollards, we're asking to remove that.

983
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,680
 That item we brought to you today, along with the status of the hiring of the bicycle and

984
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,560
 pedestrian ADA coordinator.

985
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,720
 That's a long title.

986
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,000
 So we're asking to remove both of those.

987
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,800
 And then of course, Bonnie Bray and Hickory Creek Road phase three, Trevor will continue

988
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,900
 to bring those updates to you monthly.

989
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:14,820
 This is more for you, Mayor Pro Tembeck, is that Ryan Road, we leave this on here kind

990
01:08:14,820 --> 01:08:16,720
 of as a future agenda item.

991
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,800
 I think you're very aware that we're going to hold on doing Ryan Road until Hickory Creek

992
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:26,160
 is completed, because that is the major east-west corridor.

993
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:33,660
 And then lastly, the TxDOT response for the citywide speed study speed limit changes.

994
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:36,920
 Brett has had some conversations recently with TxDOT.

995
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:43,500
 They've asked us for graphical representations of some of the corridors, but we're waiting

996
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,600
 on their overall feedback.

997
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,560
 And those are specific to those TxDOT roadways that were a part of the speed study.

998
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:56,000
 So once we received that back, they had given us kind of a six to eight month time frame.

999
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:01,060
 And then they've also asked for some additional data recently, but have not given us a final

1000
01:09:01,060 --> 01:09:03,500
 time frame when they anticipate being completed with that.

1001
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:05,360
 But when that is completed, we will bring that forward.

1002
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:12,340
 So we leave it on here so that we don't forget one and two, we bring it back to you.

1003
01:09:12,340 --> 01:09:19,480
 So the only other thing that I was going to mention, it's not really a future staff report

1004
01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:27,760
 item specifically, but we will want to bring forward at the next meeting the chair, vice

1005
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,760
 chair.

1006
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,240
 And so we will be bringing that forward to you.

1007
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,720
 And I think that that is everything that I have.

1008
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:41,120
 So if you agree with removing those two, we'll remove those.

1009
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,440
 And then, of course, we'd love to hear anything else that you'd like to see at the next meeting.

1010
01:09:44,440 --> 01:09:45,440
 Okay.

1011
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,240
 What do you think about removing those two?

1012
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,500
 Are you satisfied with it?

1013
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:54,600
 It sounds like you are, I mean, we can always bring things back if we have concerns or point

1014
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,600
 issues.

1015
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,040
 So absolutely.

1016
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,320
 How it kind of works, just so you understand is, is we use this time frame for you to bring

1017
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,020
 forward anything you'd like for us to report on the next month.

1018
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:08,600
 And then if we've reported on it, we request to remove it if it's something that we want

1019
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,620
 to bring to you monthly, we'll continue to bring to you monthly.

1020
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:16,400
 And then if there's things that come up kind of in between the two meeting timeframes, we

1021
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,920
 ask that you bring that forward when we have this meeting so that we can make sure because

1022
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,080
 if it's not on posting, we can't really talk about it.

1023
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,240
 So we want to make sure that it's on the agenda item.

1024
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,880
 The same doesn't get us.

1025
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:27,880
 Yes, sir.

1026
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,880
 He's tough.

1027
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,760
 I believe that we're in agreement to remove one and two.

1028
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,760
 Wonderful.

1029
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,760
 Thank you very much.

1030
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,720
 And for have just a couple of questions about a few streets here.

1031
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,360
 The first one is Oakland Street.

1032
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:48,240
 I know that we talked about bollards and bike paths and, and all of that, but that street,

1033
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:55,260
 I like to know where it is in terms of an overlay or replacement or I mean, it's a really

1034
01:10:55,260 --> 01:10:56,520
 rough street right there.

1035
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,520
 Absolutely.

1036
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,120
 All the way around to Locust Street.

1037
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,040
 Yes, we have lots of plans for that.

1038
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,800
 So we can definitely bring you back and I really love that.

1039
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:14,000
 And then I am also understanding that there is another multifamily development that is

1040
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:22,240
 in the works to come up over on Spencer at that Walmart and on the other side of that

1041
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:28,120
 luxury apartment complex across the street from the senior Villa.

1042
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:38,720
 But the question is, is, will this new structure, will it affect the roadway in some kind of

1043
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:39,720
 way?

1044
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:46,240
 Will there be, will we put this road on some type of list to be done?

1045
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,240
 Things to do list.

1046
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,240
 Okay.

1047
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:54,240
 So specifically Spencer Road between between a 28 Mayhill and Mayhill.

1048
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,240
 Okay.

1049
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,240
 Sure.

1050
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,040
 We can bring that forward because there's going to be more traffic on that road.

1051
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:06,400
 And then a car apartment complex come up also, you know, one street that really just kind

1052
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:12,400
 of perplexes me is Windsor because there's like Windsor Road is four or five different

1053
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,680
 streets.

1054
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:19,520
 You know, it's just, and some have the pipe bike paid, but when we get to the park, it's

1055
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,520
 just down to those two lanes.

1056
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,080
 Is there any, is there something going on with that right now?

1057
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,520
 I do, I just need to add that to the list.

1058
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,040
 So there are projects happening along Windsor also.

1059
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:38,120
 So we're happy to bring that back to you so we can explain kind of the West Gate Windsor

1060
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:43,720
 and that project also as it coordinates with Bonnie Bray face six.

1061
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,680
 And then of course the fire station right there that's a part of the bond program.

1062
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,680
 So we can bring forward kind of an overall update of Windsor and kind of talk to you

1063
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:52,880
 about future planning.

1064
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,460
 I know Brett talked about Hinkle to Windsor, but you're talking kind of from that area

1065
01:12:57,460 --> 01:13:01,840
 all the way due West to 35 and the improvements on 35.

1066
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,380
 We can bring that back.

1067
01:13:03,380 --> 01:13:05,520
 That's not what's going on there.

1068
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:19,320
 And also I'm not sure if this is in the loop as well, but I've always been, not loop, but

1069
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,840
 downtown backing in parking.

1070
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,900
 Can you all bring us some conversation in that regard?

1071
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:33,600
 I particularly don't care for it, but I just want to know what the community is thinking

1072
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,200
 about the backing in.

1073
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:42,120
 I know it hadn't always been that way and then there was a request to make it that way.

1074
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:48,720
 And so I'm curious now as to what the feedback is from that now that we have new community

1075
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,320
 members, more people have moved in.

1076
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,800
 I'm noticing people are actually pulling in more than backing in here lately.

1077
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,320
 So I like to have that on our radar as well.

1078
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,620
 Sure we can absolutely do that.

1079
01:14:02,620 --> 01:14:08,360
 We just gave that update to Traffic Safety Commission.

1080
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,800
 Yeah it'll be fun to hear.

1081
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:16,640
 I should go review that update from Traffic Safety.

1082
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:23,760
 I buy the rationale for the backing in parking, but I know that now there's literally like

1083
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:32,560
 75,000 people in both camps who love or hate the backing in parking.

1084
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,560
 So I won't cover that.

1085
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:41,840
 A couple of things that I wanted to bring up are, well we discussed a lot of them today

1086
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,880
 that were sort of my top of mind issues with Brett.

1087
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,200
 I appreciate it was very timely.

1088
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,760
 I'm going to give you credit for doing that on purpose with new membership.

1089
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:55,240
 Even if it was not planned, if it was already in the cycle, I'm going to say no, you guys

1090
01:14:55,240 --> 01:15:00,380
 are forward thinking and proactive so you're going to get credit for that.

1091
01:15:00,380 --> 01:15:04,920
 The ones that I was interested in, I know that you're engaged in a citywide parking

1092
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,520
 study because I've been talking with Scott about that and the reason I bring this up

1093
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:16,680
 is there's both downtown parking and citywide parking and I bring this up because I've been

1094
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:27,600
 in discussions with the Oak Street historical community and they're very interested in being

1095
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:37,120
 a pilot for future whatever we design as a parking standard because of their ongoing

1096
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:46,560
 concerns with competition, with student parking for UNT.

1097
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,600
 So I'd love to hear some updates from, I've heard some of the development updates, I'd

1098
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,920
 love to hear some of the mobility and engineering updates for the citywide parking and the downtown

1099
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:02,240
 parking and then I guess this isn't an item for, well it might become an item for next

1100
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,640
 time.

1101
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:13,560
 Wherever we get to on the bond meeting, particularly I guess the big ones will be Rudel and Mingo,

1102
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:19,240
 however that shakes out after the August 1st meeting, we'll probably need to have an update

1103
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:26,440
 on how that changes forward planning going after that depending on where we go.

1104
01:16:26,440 --> 01:16:31,120
 So if the timing is right and it aligns with the August meeting, great, sounds like it

1105
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,120
 might because we're going to meet at the beginning of the month so we should, hopefully that's

1106
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:42,080
 enough weeks for you to prepare for the end of the month, if not then subsequent month

1107
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,880
 about how that impacts forward planning in the Rudel and Mingo corridor and how that

1108
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,360
 changes things, whatever we decide.

1109
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,800
 So I'm purposely leaving that nebulous but I'm going to ask for it regardless of whatever

1110
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,800
 the state is.

1111
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:01,800
 Sure, yeah we can definitely bring that to you after the meeting on the 1st and depending

1112
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,360
 on which way it goes, what our anticipations will be.

1113
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:12,720
 Alrighty, so I have seven different things to talk about.

1114
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:18,840
 One of the things that I would like to bring forward to you as a staff report update and

1115
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,960
 I don't anticipate that it will be August but one of the things that's on my radar is

1116
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:29,200
 kind of what we talked about with the mapping and showing you kind of that overall sidewalk

1117
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:34,680
 and bicycle corridor, just actually visually showing it to you and allowing Ryan that opportunity

1118
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:41,360
 to present that and kind of walk through some of those ideas just so you can see.

1119
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,400
 I think it makes a lot of sense to be able to show you kind of those GIS layers and then

1120
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:50,560
 I think one of the things I'd like to do is kind of make it a goal that we talk about

1121
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:56,720
 kind of that outward facing, we focus a lot on developers, capital, those types of plans

1122
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,200
 of how are we coordinating and planning for the future and making sure we're coordinating

1123
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:06,700
 with developers but I do think it's very important to make sure that those who are using the

1124
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:12,240
 different pieces of infrastructure have that opportunity also and we have done things like

1125
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:17,320
 that with Waze in the past so kind of thinking in those terms of if I go on my smartphone

1126
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:22,000
 and press walk or bike, how does that populate to show me this is the route and that's kind

1127
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,160
 of where my head is with that.

1128
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,000
 I don't know if that's kind of what you're thinking Mayor Breton but something I'm going

1129
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,000
 to.

1130
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,660
 Any education, outreach and training forward facing to the public, awesome, more the merrier.

1131
01:18:32,660 --> 01:18:35,840
 So that's kind of where I'm headed with that but I'm not thinking that we're going to

1132
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,440
 be ready for that in August but I do think that that's something that I'd like to bring

1133
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:42,920
 back definitely before the end of the year.

1134
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:48,320
 All righty, well that's everything that I have.

1135
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,520
 We appreciate it.

1136
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,640
 Will, are there any concluding items, Dr. Beck?

1137
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:59,640
 I will just say thank you for bringing me up to speed on some of these items.

1138
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,640
 I appreciate that.

1139
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,400
 Give me a couple of meetings and I'll be right there with you.

1140
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:10,360
 I try to be, I try to do my homework so I appreciate everybody's indulgence while we

1141
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,600
 do the change.

1142
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:18,800
 Well we will declare that this meeting is over at 9.19.

1143
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,760
 Awesome, thank you.