WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.860 Okay. Let's call the February 25th Public Utilities Board meeting to order. The 00:00:06.860 --> 00:00:11.940 first item is the consent agenda. Is there any board members who wish to pull 00:00:11.940 --> 00:00:21.540 one of the items? Okay. Seeing that nobody wants to pull anything, is there a 00:00:21.540 --> 00:00:31.040 motion to approve items A through F? So moved. Second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:41.400 Opposed? Okay. That carries. Items for individual consideration. The first item 00:00:41.400 --> 00:00:50.000 is approval of the Public Utility Board's minutes of February 11th. Are there any 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:58.040 changes or corrections? Since none, then they'll be approved as presented. The 00:00:58.040 --> 00:01:02.480 next item is item B. Consider recommendation adoption of an ordinance 00:01:02.480 --> 00:01:07.640 of the City of Denton of Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation authorizing the 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.280 city manager to execute a contract through the buy board cooperative 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:15.560 purchasing network contract. 00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:27.320 Lots of trucks. Good evening, Madam Chairman Board. My name is Terry Kader. I'm 00:01:27.320 --> 00:01:40.800 the Police Superintendent and yes, lots of trucks. The purpose of the presentation 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:44.080 is just to give you a little bit more information on exactly what we're 00:01:44.080 --> 00:01:48.600 purchasing and why we came to these decisions and to kind of show you 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:58.440 hopefully the value of the 3.4 million dollars that we're spending. So a little 00:01:58.440 --> 00:02:02.440 bit about how we how we go about replacing vehicles and you know why this 00:02:02.440 --> 00:02:07.680 group of vehicles. There's certainly more than 150 heavy-duty trucks in the city 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:14.160 fleet but we do have a published replacement criteria that is basically 00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:19.880 goes by two things and one is age and one is meter or hours or miles so 00:02:19.880 --> 00:02:24.560 certainly age isn't a big factor in the overall determination of when something 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.440 gets replaced but if these criteria are really the first steps and when to begin 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:33.920 to take a look at something. I think maintenance costs and downtime are 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:38.280 really the two key factors in when to replace a piece of equipment or a 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:44.000 vehicle and certainly downtime anymore on some of these trucks even outweighs 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.520 the cost of the additional maintenance that's required for them. So we want to 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:52.960 take a close look at downtime and some parts of the fleet the downtime is more 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.240 important and more critical than others for instance on the solid waste fleet. 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.040 Downtime is critical they don't have the spare equipment and have to maintain 00:03:00.040 --> 00:03:04.440 that schedule and so some of the other departments can share equipment but 00:03:04.440 --> 00:03:08.240 there's no place for solid waste to go to borrow a refuse truck since they have 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:14.960 all of them in the fleet. So part of the deal too is standardization when we take 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:20.440 a look at acquisitions we're gonna recommend in this virtues of this group 00:03:20.440 --> 00:03:25.960 of trucks that we stay with the Peterbilt chassis and Peterbilt's as you 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:31.960 know the manufacturer is based headquarters here in Texas here in 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:36.880 Denton actually and they provide warranty and repair support through rush 00:03:36.880 --> 00:03:41.920 truck centers. Rush truck is the Texas authorized service center for warranty 00:03:41.920 --> 00:03:46.920 and distribution of the Peterbilt product and they provide us excellent 00:03:46.920 --> 00:03:52.920 support in the past. So another consideration is parts acquisition in 00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:56.520 order to maintain the entire city fleet we have to have parts on the shelf that 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:02.040 meets part of the requirements for all different parts of the fleet so more we 00:04:02.040 --> 00:04:05.400 can standardize the fewer parts that we're gonna have to have carry on the 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:09.560 shelf and then technician training is another big one because of the varied 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.000 amount of vehicles and equipment in the fleet we try to keep each technician up 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.280 to speed and keeping them trained on one product certainly a lot easier than 00:04:18.280 --> 00:04:27.200 having learned ten different truck. So this bid is through cooperative it's on 00:04:27.200 --> 00:04:33.120 a buy board. Purchasing cooperative actually are several that we use buy 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.400 board is probably the least expensive in most cases there's also HGAC and 00:04:37.400 --> 00:04:42.560 there's a source well which are two other properties that we oftentimes use 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:49.080 but these have already been bid and vetted so typically we'll use the least 00:04:49.080 --> 00:04:54.200 the least cost on the contract. The Peterbilt chassis are on the buy board 00:04:54.200 --> 00:04:59.760 contract and rush out of San Antonio is the authorized distributor for rush 00:04:59.760 --> 00:05:06.040 equipment for Peterbilt equipment I'm sorry. So a little bit about these trucks 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:10.720 and just to give you some examples the there's two different classes of trucks 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:14.640 here. Ten of these trucks are for the solid waste department would be 00:05:14.640 --> 00:05:19.000 considered refuse trucks of various types and then five of them would be 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:24.640 considered dump trucks. Four of these are 14-yard dump trucks to be used by 00:05:24.640 --> 00:05:29.640 wastewater collections department water distribution departments and then the 00:05:29.640 --> 00:05:34.740 one is the ejecta bed on the far right there and that is an asphalt truck for 00:05:34.740 --> 00:05:38.520 the streets department. Its function is similar to a dump truck but it's used to 00:05:38.520 --> 00:05:45.200 spread asphalt for pavement repairs and then the chassis in the middle there 00:05:45.200 --> 00:05:48.560 the trucks in the middle we have two roll-offs those are both replacements we 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:53.760 have four automated side loaders and three of those are replacements one of 00:05:53.760 --> 00:05:58.260 those is a fleet addition and then we have four front loaders for the 00:05:58.260 --> 00:06:03.320 commercial department and those four are all fleeted replacements so out of the 00:06:03.320 --> 00:06:09.760 15 trucks 14 are replacements with one fleet addition. Now these trucks are on 00:06:09.760 --> 00:06:15.240 various types of chassis the dump trucks over there on the left those are on a 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:20.480 348 the roll-offs are 567 chassis the audits automated side loads and front 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:27.640 loads those are a 520 Peterbilt chassis and then the ejecta bed is a 337 model. 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:33.680 So this is just a kind of a slide that shows you the different departments the 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.600 trucks are going off what what trucks are being replaced in each department 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:44.000 and the total cost for those trucks and you can see that the dump trucks they 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:49.280 are around $150,000 a piece there's two fleet replacements there wastewater 00:06:49.280 --> 00:06:56.920 department and water distribution the roll-off trucks are also fleet 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:01.800 replacements and they are about a little over 150 thousand dollars a piece for 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:06.760 those then the automated side loads and the front loaders for solid waste as 00:07:06.760 --> 00:07:13.560 well and the ejecta bed for streets is the least expensive so one thing that I 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.360 don't have on the on the slide is talk a little bit about warranty because a 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:21.560 question did come up about warranty on these so when we when we asked for 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:26.000 quotes on the trucks we asked for the good warranties whenever possible and 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:31.520 various manufacturers will have different warranty levels so for this 00:07:31.520 --> 00:07:35.040 purchase we did get you got to understand that each component has a 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.680 different warranty as well so you've got the truck warranty which on the 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.160 Peterbilt is two years 200,000 miles but we'll hit the two years pretty easy but 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.920 we'll never get to the 200,000 miles on two years I mean so you might as well 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:52.080 say it's a two-year warranty on the chassis the engines are pack our engines 00:07:52.080 --> 00:08:00.900 that's also a Peterbilt product and the engines five years and 200,000 so pretty 00:08:00.900 --> 00:08:03.880 good engine warranty on them the transmissions are allison automatic 00:08:03.880 --> 00:08:07.620 transmissions and all these trucks those allisons are a five-year unlimited 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:14.400 mileage and unlimited hour warranty and then the the bodies on the trucks are 00:08:14.400 --> 00:08:17.920 a little bit different the dump truck bodies have carry a one-year unlimited 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:23.680 mileage warranty the solid waste bodies the roll-off side load and front load 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:29.360 bodies those are also one year standard warranty on the body but we did get a 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:34.040 five-year hydraulic cylinder warranty along with that so five-year 10,000 hour 00:08:34.040 --> 00:08:41.120 warranty on this hydraulics part of the truck which is really the bulk of of how 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.640 those trucks operate and the part that gets the most usage so we feel like we 00:08:45.640 --> 00:08:50.640 have a pretty good warranty package in this group of equipment and we hope to 00:08:50.640 --> 00:08:56.120 take full advantage of that should the need arise for them I'll be up to answer 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.360 any other questions you might have I don't have you know question slide up 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:07.160 here but a while back we discussed migrating from compressed natural gas to 00:09:07.160 --> 00:09:10.900 diesel are all these diesel powered vehicles these are all diesel powered 00:09:10.900 --> 00:09:16.160 vehicles and are they replacing some of the compressed natural we have a 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:20.640 replacement list of course these trucks are going to be rolling in sometime 00:09:20.640 --> 00:09:24.720 around September so we'll look at that list again in September we want to get 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:29.680 rid of the worst trucks we have at that time and you know barring any failures 00:09:29.680 --> 00:09:33.680 we pretty much know which ones are going to be replaced and I think there might 00:09:33.680 --> 00:09:37.720 be one CNG truck in this group that will be replaced but these are still 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.120 replacing anywhere from 2010 to 2014 model trucks and so most of the older 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:47.600 trucks were still diesel but these will be much cleaner they're tier four engines 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:58.240 so they're the latest emissions back any other questions yes on the the ones 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:07.440 that are used in solid waste remind me with a the ones that come in and out of 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:16.480 landfill okay those would be 357 those would be the 567 and the 520 model with 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:21.680 the single windshield do you see a problem at all with windshield damage 00:10:21.680 --> 00:10:25.760 constantly because you know they've gone to a single windshield from a double 00:10:25.760 --> 00:10:28.600 windshield which used to be easier replacing that's where they were they 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.160 are and you know on the dump trucks we haven't really we don't replace a lot of 00:10:32.160 --> 00:10:36.560 windshields on the dump trucks now on the 520 models those were always a split 00:10:36.560 --> 00:10:41.320 windshield anyway and so we can replace one side or the other and just the 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.200 nature of going in and out of the landfill and being up and down the road 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.760 more I think we do replace some of those but it's really not all that 00:10:48.760 --> 00:10:58.280 frequently okay fair enough thank you any other questions okay do we have a 00:10:58.280 --> 00:11:07.800 motion to approve motion second all in favor say aye aye opposed that motion 00:11:07.800 --> 00:11:12.240 carries ACM update but we were really hoping you would give Terry 30 more 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:20.800 minutes record record time here now on the ACM update just a couple of things 00:11:20.800 --> 00:11:25.120 to report in your packet as promised before is to general obligation funded 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:28.880 projects this information was presented to the bond oversight committee last 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:33.560 Wednesday on February 20th and so as we promised we would bring this information 00:11:33.560 --> 00:11:39.160 to the PUB at your subsequent meeting and so David Gaines is the finance 00:11:39.160 --> 00:11:43.800 director is here to answer any questions also the bond oversight committee will 00:11:43.800 --> 00:11:48.480 be meeting I believe in May later this year and so again we'll in keeping with 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.560 our new practices we'll bring that report that's presented to the board or 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:56.920 to the to the committee we'll bring it to the board till you all can review it 00:11:56.920 --> 00:12:00.280 and ask any questions per se if you have any so if you have any questions 00:12:00.280 --> 00:12:04.520 regarding the report David's here to to enter any specifics that you may have 00:12:04.520 --> 00:12:25.920 about that and as far as your future agenda items you know just kind of keep 00:12:25.920 --> 00:12:29.280 you apprised of what's going ahead of your meetings I thought I could get my 00:12:29.280 --> 00:12:38.000 computer up and running so you know we're into the spring so lots of activity 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.720 happening so unless anybody has any questions I don't have much else to 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:49.720 report all right we're into concluding items and I do have one item and I know 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:55.000 board member cheek has one we've been doing evening meetings for about a year 00:12:55.000 --> 00:13:00.120 now we we started on I was one of the proponents for it thinking maybe the 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.640 public would like to attend I don't think the public has attended we are 00:13:05.640 --> 00:13:11.560 recorded so they can always look at our board meetings and see what took place 00:13:11.560 --> 00:13:17.760 so what are your feelings of going back to all 9 a.m. the second and fourth 00:13:17.760 --> 00:13:22.800 Tuesdays well I I sort of depend on the evening meeting because I'm working 8 to 00:13:22.800 --> 00:13:28.440 5 okay I would just say that we're not posted to have that conversation but if 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.840 it's you want us to bring that back maybe we could have a work session that 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.640 would be great for the whole board and we can talk about options with you 00:13:34.640 --> 00:13:58.200 that'd be great we can bring that information back and the meetings are 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.280 the second and fourth Mondays of the month and they are streamed and videoed 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:06.240 so but we certainly can bring just information back to the board and you 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:09.040 all can give us direction 00:14:09.040 --> 00:14:19.320 some of you may be reading about the problems that Georgetown is having with 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:27.120 their hundred percent renewable go I'm a huge fan of renewable energy but the 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:32.600 price of it has come down because of all the development I won't I should not 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:36.200 have conjecture of why it's come down but it has come down and so we're 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:41.040 overpaying I know I was my first time on pub was many years ago and we locked 00:14:41.040 --> 00:14:45.780 into some contracts that were long-term that were way high looking at them now 00:14:45.780 --> 00:14:51.240 compared to the cost of energy so I think it'd be good idea to have the 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.720 report come through you may have already had this I may be on the back end of 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.760 this and I apologize if I am but it's certainly would like to look at what are 00:14:58.760 --> 00:15:03.240 we paying for our energy that we've locked into how long of our how long of 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:09.440 our how long our our contracts and what are our options at this point because if 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:14.600 the city of didn't go in the city council sets this goal obviously not the 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.120 public utility board does not but I'd like to look at what are what are our 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:24.280 long-term goals and where are we on price and can we make some improvements 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:36.840 okay any other items it's not really for it's the recitation of factual items I'm 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:44.040 hoping somebody can we had a septic rupture by the old Alton Bridge or 00:15:44.040 --> 00:15:47.240 somewhere out in there and then it was in the paper for a while and they were 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:51.000 talking about redoing you know the repair and what caused it and then I 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.000 didn't ever hear anything about it I was wondering is there anybody here that 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.960 could just real quick tell us what happened just you know just like a 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:09.400 minute he knows exactly what happened yeah there were actually two instances 00:16:09.400 --> 00:16:13.720 one was a force main that was quite far removed from the old Alton Bridge that 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:17.880 was the second of the two much smaller release the first one that I believe 00:16:17.880 --> 00:16:21.320 you're talking about was a fairly significant discharge into the creek 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:27.160 itself which was due to caused us to do public notice and things of that nature 00:16:27.160 --> 00:16:33.960 so is that the yes yeah what happened with that was that a we believe a piece 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:40.640 of concrete got entrained into the into the system it came into the into the 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:46.160 pump housing and basically just blew out the side as it contacted the impellers 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:53.840 there and caused a leak on the dry side of the facility which then ultimately 00:16:53.840 --> 00:17:00.600 shorted out the the remaining pumps and so we had quite a head venture dealing 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:05.000 with that situation we were able to work with the upper Trinity to divert the 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:10.200 flows over to an adjacent manhole using them using some pumps to be able to get 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:16.520 that that system ultimately repaired so it's fixed now we've got a redundancy to 00:17:16.520 --> 00:17:22.640 operational pumps in there right now but that entire system is designed or will 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.000 be coming up shortly for bid for rehabilitation of the entire lift 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:32.400 station so we're anticipating that's probably a month or two out it's it's 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:37.760 currently in process where there are requirements for testing the water yes 00:17:37.760 --> 00:17:41.800 and any time that we have a release to the environment if it gets into a creek 00:17:41.800 --> 00:17:48.280 or anything of that nature we will test the water we we notified TCEQ we also 00:17:48.280 --> 00:17:51.680 notified Parks and Wildlife the watershed protection group goes out and 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.880 make sure there aren't any fish kills or anything of that nature we're required 00:17:54.880 --> 00:18:01.340 to report those if if they happen basically that that particular one we 00:18:01.340 --> 00:18:07.700 were able to get out ahead of it we also put some oxygen sparging equipment into 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:13.360 the creek itself and so the the problem that you tend to run into is that with a 00:18:13.360 --> 00:18:19.400 high bacterial load if that particular one was relatively diluted because there 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:24.120 was a storm going on at the time but you'll you'll tend to see the mortality 00:18:24.120 --> 00:18:29.400 with the fish caused by sagging oxygen all the microbes are aerobic they suck 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.880 all the oxygen out of the water so we try to get out of ahead of it with the 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:39.840 sparging equipment add additional oxygen into the stream and that usually will 00:18:39.840 --> 00:18:44.200 maintain the oxygen levels enough so that we don't get a fish kill okay so 00:18:44.200 --> 00:19:05.880 thanks for the information appreciate her any other items motion to adjourn so 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:11.480 moved okay we are adjourned thank you