1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,860 Okay. Let's call the February 25th Public Utilities Board meeting to order. The 2 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:11,940 first item is the consent agenda. Is there any board members who wish to pull 3 00:00:11,940 --> 00:00:21,540 one of the items? Okay. Seeing that nobody wants to pull anything, is there a 4 00:00:21,540 --> 00:00:31,040 motion to approve items A through F? So moved. Second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Opposed? Okay. That carries. Items for individual consideration. The first item 6 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:50,000 is approval of the Public Utility Board's minutes of February 11th. Are there any 7 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:58,040 changes or corrections? Since none, then they'll be approved as presented. The 8 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,480 next item is item B. Consider recommendation adoption of an ordinance 9 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,640 of the City of Denton of Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation authorizing the 10 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,280 city manager to execute a contract through the buy board cooperative 11 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560 purchasing network contract. 12 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:27,320 Lots of trucks. Good evening, Madam Chairman Board. My name is Terry Kader. I'm 13 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:40,800 the Police Superintendent and yes, lots of trucks. The purpose of the presentation 14 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,080 is just to give you a little bit more information on exactly what we're 15 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,600 purchasing and why we came to these decisions and to kind of show you 16 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:58,440 hopefully the value of the 3.4 million dollars that we're spending. So a little 17 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,440 bit about how we how we go about replacing vehicles and you know why this 18 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,680 group of vehicles. There's certainly more than 150 heavy-duty trucks in the city 19 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:14,160 fleet but we do have a published replacement criteria that is basically 20 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,880 goes by two things and one is age and one is meter or hours or miles so 21 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,560 certainly age isn't a big factor in the overall determination of when something 22 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,440 gets replaced but if these criteria are really the first steps and when to begin 23 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,920 to take a look at something. I think maintenance costs and downtime are 24 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,280 really the two key factors in when to replace a piece of equipment or a 25 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,000 vehicle and certainly downtime anymore on some of these trucks even outweighs 26 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,520 the cost of the additional maintenance that's required for them. So we want to 27 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,960 take a close look at downtime and some parts of the fleet the downtime is more 28 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,240 important and more critical than others for instance on the solid waste fleet. 29 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,040 Downtime is critical they don't have the spare equipment and have to maintain 30 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,440 that schedule and so some of the other departments can share equipment but 31 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,240 there's no place for solid waste to go to borrow a refuse truck since they have 32 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:14,960 all of them in the fleet. So part of the deal too is standardization when we take 33 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,440 a look at acquisitions we're gonna recommend in this virtues of this group 34 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,960 of trucks that we stay with the Peterbilt chassis and Peterbilt's as you 35 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,960 know the manufacturer is based headquarters here in Texas here in 36 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Denton actually and they provide warranty and repair support through rush 37 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,920 truck centers. Rush truck is the Texas authorized service center for warranty 38 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,920 and distribution of the Peterbilt product and they provide us excellent 39 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,920 support in the past. So another consideration is parts acquisition in 40 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,520 order to maintain the entire city fleet we have to have parts on the shelf that 41 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,040 meets part of the requirements for all different parts of the fleet so more we 42 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,400 can standardize the fewer parts that we're gonna have to have carry on the 43 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,560 shelf and then technician training is another big one because of the varied 44 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,000 amount of vehicles and equipment in the fleet we try to keep each technician up 45 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,280 to speed and keeping them trained on one product certainly a lot easier than 46 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:27,200 having learned ten different truck. So this bid is through cooperative it's on 47 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:33,120 a buy board. Purchasing cooperative actually are several that we use buy 48 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,400 board is probably the least expensive in most cases there's also HGAC and 49 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,560 there's a source well which are two other properties that we oftentimes use 50 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,080 but these have already been bid and vetted so typically we'll use the least 51 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,200 the least cost on the contract. The Peterbilt chassis are on the buy board 52 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,760 contract and rush out of San Antonio is the authorized distributor for rush 53 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:06,040 equipment for Peterbilt equipment I'm sorry. So a little bit about these trucks 54 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,720 and just to give you some examples the there's two different classes of trucks 55 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,640 here. Ten of these trucks are for the solid waste department would be 56 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,000 considered refuse trucks of various types and then five of them would be 57 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,640 considered dump trucks. Four of these are 14-yard dump trucks to be used by 58 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,640 wastewater collections department water distribution departments and then the 59 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,740 one is the ejecta bed on the far right there and that is an asphalt truck for 60 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:38,520 the streets department. Its function is similar to a dump truck but it's used to 61 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:45,200 spread asphalt for pavement repairs and then the chassis in the middle there 62 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,560 the trucks in the middle we have two roll-offs those are both replacements we 63 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,760 have four automated side loaders and three of those are replacements one of 64 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,260 those is a fleet addition and then we have four front loaders for the 65 00:05:58,260 --> 00:06:03,320 commercial department and those four are all fleeted replacements so out of the 66 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:09,760 15 trucks 14 are replacements with one fleet addition. Now these trucks are on 67 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:15,240 various types of chassis the dump trucks over there on the left those are on a 68 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,480 348 the roll-offs are 567 chassis the audits automated side loads and front 69 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:27,640 loads those are a 520 Peterbilt chassis and then the ejecta bed is a 337 model. 70 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,680 So this is just a kind of a slide that shows you the different departments the 71 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,600 trucks are going off what what trucks are being replaced in each department 72 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:44,000 and the total cost for those trucks and you can see that the dump trucks they 73 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:49,280 are around $150,000 a piece there's two fleet replacements there wastewater 74 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:56,920 department and water distribution the roll-off trucks are also fleet 75 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,800 replacements and they are about a little over 150 thousand dollars a piece for 76 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,760 those then the automated side loads and the front loaders for solid waste as 77 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:13,560 well and the ejecta bed for streets is the least expensive so one thing that I 78 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,360 don't have on the on the slide is talk a little bit about warranty because a 79 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,560 question did come up about warranty on these so when we when we asked for 80 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,000 quotes on the trucks we asked for the good warranties whenever possible and 81 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,520 various manufacturers will have different warranty levels so for this 82 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 purchase we did get you got to understand that each component has a 83 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,680 different warranty as well so you've got the truck warranty which on the 84 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Peterbilt is two years 200,000 miles but we'll hit the two years pretty easy but 85 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,920 we'll never get to the 200,000 miles on two years I mean so you might as well 86 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,080 say it's a two-year warranty on the chassis the engines are pack our engines 87 00:07:52,080 --> 00:08:00,900 that's also a Peterbilt product and the engines five years and 200,000 so pretty 88 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:03,880 good engine warranty on them the transmissions are allison automatic 89 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,620 transmissions and all these trucks those allisons are a five-year unlimited 90 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:14,400 mileage and unlimited hour warranty and then the the bodies on the trucks are 91 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,920 a little bit different the dump truck bodies have carry a one-year unlimited 92 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:23,680 mileage warranty the solid waste bodies the roll-off side load and front load 93 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,360 bodies those are also one year standard warranty on the body but we did get a 94 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,040 five-year hydraulic cylinder warranty along with that so five-year 10,000 hour 95 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:41,120 warranty on this hydraulics part of the truck which is really the bulk of of how 96 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,640 those trucks operate and the part that gets the most usage so we feel like we 97 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,640 have a pretty good warranty package in this group of equipment and we hope to 98 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:56,120 take full advantage of that should the need arise for them I'll be up to answer 99 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,360 any other questions you might have I don't have you know question slide up 100 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:07,160 here but a while back we discussed migrating from compressed natural gas to 101 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,900 diesel are all these diesel powered vehicles these are all diesel powered 102 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:16,160 vehicles and are they replacing some of the compressed natural we have a 103 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,640 replacement list of course these trucks are going to be rolling in sometime 104 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,720 around September so we'll look at that list again in September we want to get 105 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,680 rid of the worst trucks we have at that time and you know barring any failures 106 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:33,680 we pretty much know which ones are going to be replaced and I think there might 107 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:37,720 be one CNG truck in this group that will be replaced but these are still 108 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,120 replacing anywhere from 2010 to 2014 model trucks and so most of the older 109 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,600 trucks were still diesel but these will be much cleaner they're tier four engines 110 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:58,240 so they're the latest emissions back any other questions yes on the the ones 111 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:07,440 that are used in solid waste remind me with a the ones that come in and out of 112 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:16,480 landfill okay those would be 357 those would be the 567 and the 520 model with 113 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,680 the single windshield do you see a problem at all with windshield damage 114 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,760 constantly because you know they've gone to a single windshield from a double 115 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 windshield which used to be easier replacing that's where they were they 116 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,160 are and you know on the dump trucks we haven't really we don't replace a lot of 117 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,560 windshields on the dump trucks now on the 520 models those were always a split 118 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:41,320 windshield anyway and so we can replace one side or the other and just the 119 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,200 nature of going in and out of the landfill and being up and down the road 120 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,760 more I think we do replace some of those but it's really not all that 121 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:58,280 frequently okay fair enough thank you any other questions okay do we have a 122 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:07,800 motion to approve motion second all in favor say aye aye opposed that motion 123 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,240 carries ACM update but we were really hoping you would give Terry 30 more 124 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:20,800 minutes record record time here now on the ACM update just a couple of things 125 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,120 to report in your packet as promised before is to general obligation funded 126 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,880 projects this information was presented to the bond oversight committee last 127 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,560 Wednesday on February 20th and so as we promised we would bring this information 128 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:39,160 to the PUB at your subsequent meeting and so David Gaines is the finance 129 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,800 director is here to answer any questions also the bond oversight committee will 130 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,480 be meeting I believe in May later this year and so again we'll in keeping with 131 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,560 our new practices we'll bring that report that's presented to the board or 132 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,920 to the to the committee we'll bring it to the board till you all can review it 133 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,280 and ask any questions per se if you have any so if you have any questions 134 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,520 regarding the report David's here to to enter any specifics that you may have 135 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:25,920 about that and as far as your future agenda items you know just kind of keep 136 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,280 you apprised of what's going ahead of your meetings I thought I could get my 137 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:38,000 computer up and running so you know we're into the spring so lots of activity 138 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,720 happening so unless anybody has any questions I don't have much else to 139 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:49,720 report all right we're into concluding items and I do have one item and I know 140 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,000 board member cheek has one we've been doing evening meetings for about a year 141 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,120 now we we started on I was one of the proponents for it thinking maybe the 142 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,640 public would like to attend I don't think the public has attended we are 143 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:11,560 recorded so they can always look at our board meetings and see what took place 144 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:17,760 so what are your feelings of going back to all 9 a.m. the second and fourth 145 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Tuesdays well I I sort of depend on the evening meeting because I'm working 8 to 146 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:28,440 5 okay I would just say that we're not posted to have that conversation but if 147 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,840 it's you want us to bring that back maybe we could have a work session that 148 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,640 would be great for the whole board and we can talk about options with you 149 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:58,200 that'd be great we can bring that information back and the meetings are 150 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,280 the second and fourth Mondays of the month and they are streamed and videoed 151 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,240 so but we certainly can bring just information back to the board and you 152 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,040 all can give us direction 153 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:19,320 some of you may be reading about the problems that Georgetown is having with 154 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:27,120 their hundred percent renewable go I'm a huge fan of renewable energy but the 155 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,600 price of it has come down because of all the development I won't I should not 156 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,200 have conjecture of why it's come down but it has come down and so we're 157 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,040 overpaying I know I was my first time on pub was many years ago and we locked 158 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,780 into some contracts that were long-term that were way high looking at them now 159 00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:51,240 compared to the cost of energy so I think it'd be good idea to have the 160 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,720 report come through you may have already had this I may be on the back end of 161 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,760 this and I apologize if I am but it's certainly would like to look at what are 162 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,240 we paying for our energy that we've locked into how long of our how long of 163 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,440 our how long our our contracts and what are our options at this point because if 164 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,600 the city of didn't go in the city council sets this goal obviously not the 165 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,120 public utility board does not but I'd like to look at what are what are our 166 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:24,280 long-term goals and where are we on price and can we make some improvements 167 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:36,840 okay any other items it's not really for it's the recitation of factual items I'm 168 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:44,040 hoping somebody can we had a septic rupture by the old Alton Bridge or 169 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,240 somewhere out in there and then it was in the paper for a while and they were 170 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,000 talking about redoing you know the repair and what caused it and then I 171 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 didn't ever hear anything about it I was wondering is there anybody here that 172 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,960 could just real quick tell us what happened just you know just like a 173 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:09,400 minute he knows exactly what happened yeah there were actually two instances 174 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,720 one was a force main that was quite far removed from the old Alton Bridge that 175 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,880 was the second of the two much smaller release the first one that I believe 176 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,320 you're talking about was a fairly significant discharge into the creek 177 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,160 itself which was due to caused us to do public notice and things of that nature 178 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:33,960 so is that the yes yeah what happened with that was that a we believe a piece 179 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,640 of concrete got entrained into the into the system it came into the into the 180 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,160 pump housing and basically just blew out the side as it contacted the impellers 181 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:53,840 there and caused a leak on the dry side of the facility which then ultimately 182 00:16:53,840 --> 00:17:00,600 shorted out the the remaining pumps and so we had quite a head venture dealing 183 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,000 with that situation we were able to work with the upper Trinity to divert the 184 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,200 flows over to an adjacent manhole using them using some pumps to be able to get 185 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:16,520 that that system ultimately repaired so it's fixed now we've got a redundancy to 186 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:22,640 operational pumps in there right now but that entire system is designed or will 187 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,000 be coming up shortly for bid for rehabilitation of the entire lift 188 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,400 station so we're anticipating that's probably a month or two out it's it's 189 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,760 currently in process where there are requirements for testing the water yes 190 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,800 and any time that we have a release to the environment if it gets into a creek 191 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:48,280 or anything of that nature we will test the water we we notified TCEQ we also 192 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,680 notified Parks and Wildlife the watershed protection group goes out and 193 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,880 make sure there aren't any fish kills or anything of that nature we're required 194 00:17:54,880 --> 00:18:01,340 to report those if if they happen basically that that particular one we 195 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:07,700 were able to get out ahead of it we also put some oxygen sparging equipment into 196 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:13,360 the creek itself and so the the problem that you tend to run into is that with a 197 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:19,400 high bacterial load if that particular one was relatively diluted because there 198 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,120 was a storm going on at the time but you'll you'll tend to see the mortality 199 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,400 with the fish caused by sagging oxygen all the microbes are aerobic they suck 200 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,880 all the oxygen out of the water so we try to get out of ahead of it with the 201 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,840 sparging equipment add additional oxygen into the stream and that usually will 202 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,200 maintain the oxygen levels enough so that we don't get a fish kill okay so 203 00:18:44,200 --> 00:19:05,880 thanks for the information appreciate her any other items motion to adjourn so 204 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:11,480 moved okay we are adjourned thank you