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 Okay, it is nine o'clock and we do have a quorum, so I'll call to order the Public Utilities

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 Board for the City of Denton on Monday, June 26, 2023.

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 The first item is presentations from the public.

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 Does anyone from the public wish to speak?

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 Oh, you're not public.

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 Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda.

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 Does any board member wish to pull any items of A through D?

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 I see none.

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 Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda items A through D?

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 Move approval.

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 Okay.

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 Barber approved.

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 Second.

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 And Devin seconds.

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 All in favor say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Aye.

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 That carries.

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 The next item is consider approval of the June 12, 2023 minutes.

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 Are there any changes or corrections?

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 Move approval.

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 It moves approval.

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 Devin seconds.

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 All in favor?

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 Aye.

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 That carries.

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 Management reports.

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 Mr. Dixon.

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 We'll see if it wants to cooperate.

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 There it goes.

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 Good morning, Madam Chair, board members.

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 We have nothing this week to present.

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 Okay.

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 This is going to be a quick board meeting.

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 Okay.

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 That brings us to concluding items.

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 Does any board member wish to have a future item added to an agenda or have anything they'd

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 like to say to the public?

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 I would just like to thank Larry Beck for his service on the PUB for the last couple

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 of years.

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 He has resigned, so we're looking for replacements, which is why we're almost not at a quorum

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 today.

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 But that's it.

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 Okay.

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 In the next public session, receive a report and hold a discussion and give direction regarding

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 the solid waste recycling and water fiscal year '23-'24 preliminary budgets.

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 This will take a little bit longer.

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 Good morning, PUB, Danielle Stanford, budget manager.

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 So this format will be similar to what you saw at the last PUB meeting.

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 So we'll have the department present the first portion of the presentation, and then I'll

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 come back up for the financial portion of the presentations with Tammy if you'd like

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 to come up.

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 We'll start with the solid waste budget.

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 Good morning.

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 Tammy Clausing, assistant director for solid waste.

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 Currently the landfill has 65 years of useful life left, and in order to extend that life,

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 one of the tactics we use is diversion, being able to divert as much as possible.

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 I want to draw -- I'm not going to go through all of these metrics, but the one that I want

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 to draw you to is the bottom one, the overall diversion rate.

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 All of the metrics above it some way somehow feed into that.

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 So last year we had an overall diversion rate of 8 percent.

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 This year our year-end estimate is roughly 10 percent, and we have a goal of 15 percent,

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 which I believe to be a little conservative.

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 We have a organics pilot that we're running, and hopefully it's successful and we can expand

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 that along with a commercial diversion article that we're going over in the next month or

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 so, and hopefully that can increase the diversion as well.

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 But we're making progress in increasing that diversion and extending the life of the landfill.

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 Our current department structure, we have our director of solid waste with the deputy

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 director, myself, and the safety coordinator reporting.

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 We have a landfill team, an operations team, administration team, site ops, and a home

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 chemical collections with a total FTE count of 135.

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 Here we have a breakdown by FTEs by HBU.

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 Last year we had 128.

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 We asked for seven more and got 135, and next year we'll have 133.

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 Two of those FTEs moving to the environmental services and sustainability where they more appropriately belong.

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 Our strategic initiatives, goals, and visions.

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 Our first initiative is implementing our comprehensive solid waste management strategy, and we'll

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 be implementing our comprehensive diversion ordinance, also known as our commercial diversion

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 article, expanding our organics diversion program, expanding our home chemical center

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 capacity and reuse, identifying and implementing alternative diversion opportunities like styrofoam

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 densifying, plastic film, pallets, mattresses, any opportunities we can find.

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 We'll also be providing education and outreach to support these program implementations.

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 And our second initiative is repairing our Mosley Road landfill property by completing

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 repairs and determining long-term use of landfill property.

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 This we'll hand it over to Danielle.

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 Thank you.

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 >> All right, so the financial assumptions for the solid waste fund are 2.5% residential

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 growth, if that's consistent with the other utilities, a 3% commercial roll-off growth.

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 The revenue projections include the wholesale agreements in the amount of $4 million.

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 The expense projections include a contribution to the post-closure, post-closure fund, an

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 increase in personnel services costs, the same increase that you saw last week for electric

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 and environmental services.

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 It is the compensation classification study that was previously approved by city council

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 on May 16th.

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 Merit increases, those are contingent upon city council approval with the budget.

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 And then annual inflation costs.

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 And then additionally, it includes a 2% increase in operations and maintenance growth.

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 So you can see the pro forma here.

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 We expect to end the current fiscal year about $2 million under budget and revenue.

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 You can see at the top, the total resources there.

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 Expenditures line up with what we're planning to receive in revenue, about $2 million under

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 budget for the current fiscal year.

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 For FY24, no major changes.

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 That jump in personnel services is comp in class.

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 Again, the 2% across the board in operations and maintenance expenses.

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 And that looks like it's about it for that.

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 We are not contemplating rate increases until FY26 in this pro forma.

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 However, we are meeting all of our minimum target reserves and the debt service coverage

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 ratio requirements.

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 Can you explain the non-rate revenues?

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 Sure.

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 Tammy, I'm going to let you -- you want to know what makes that up, right?

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 The non-rate revenue.

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 We get a little bit back from our recycling program.

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 I'm trying to remember some of the other scrap metal, just different items that we're able

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 to sell.

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 More of the diversion type opportunities.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 Any other questions on the pro forma?

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 Seeing none.

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 So proposed rate changes, we are undergoing a cost of service study now.

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 So the consultant will be with us on the meeting on July 10th to go over their findings in

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 the study.

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 We do have some fees outside of the study that we're proposing to change.

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 We're proposing to implement a recycling card fee of $15.

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 This would apply to any residents receiving three or more cards.

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 So the first three would be included.

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 And then the fourth one would begin that $15 additional fee.

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 And then a few -- some updates to the rate ordinance language, just to specify that any

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 waste greater than four cubic yards will not be picked up, and it will require a container

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 or a roll-off.

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 The outside of container bag charge, that this will be limited to five.

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 And then finally, that appliances and electronics does not include dishwashers.

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 Yes, ma'am?

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 Give me an example of what four cubic yards is.

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 That's a great question.

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 Four dish -- four washer or dryers.

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 So take a washer, and that would be one cubic yard.

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 So four of those.

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 About four of those.

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 Yeah.

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 About this.

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 Yeah.

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 And then your cart would be very similar.

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 And this applies --

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 Thanks.

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 That's a good example.

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 And this applies just to kind of solid waste and large household -- what's the term?

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 Large household weight objects or --

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 The bulky waste?

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 Bulky waste.

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 Yeah.

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 So not like yard waste.

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 No.

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 We have -- this is more of cleaning up some of the rates in the rate book.

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 It's just like a floating sentence there doesn't -- kind of what chapter or what section it

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 applies to.

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 Just want to make sure.

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 I do have some questions on -- so this year are -- both revenues and expenditures are

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 below pretty -- like this year's budget.

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 But there's a significant step up, basically, to the 2023 budget -- 2024 budget is slightly

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 larger than 2023 budget.

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 But personnel is showing this year to be a million dollars under what was budgeted.

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 And then the revenues seem to -- I'm curious -- I just need to understand how we budgeted

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 at 41, come in at 39, we're budgeting at 41 and a little bit, like, you know, a couple

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 percent growth.

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 What caused this dip and why do we think the dip is going to be over next year?

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 You're talking about the dip and the estimate to propose, is that right?

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 Estimate to -- yeah, so we had a budget and then we had an estimate and then we're recovering

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 -- then our next budget seems to be linear off the budget.

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 So that seems to indicate we think the actuals this year were a one-time occurrence to be,

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 you know, over -- what is that -- one in a two million-ish below revenue and two million

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 below on expenditures.

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 So our revenue is actually only about a million less.

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 If you look at the total revenue line at the top section, the budget was 39.4 million.

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 We're estimated to come in at 38.4 million.

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 That difference -- Yeah, so that -- we're using reserves to make up the expenditure

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 amount, the difference in expenditures.

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 We are expected to be under and personnel services this year.

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 That's based off of a forecast of what we spent year to date.

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 What we do anticipate with comping class and the possible merit increase that that will

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 come back up for FY24.

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 Okay.

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 Yeah, so I guess looking at just rate revenues, we were at 31.3 in 2022.

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 We budgeted 31.4 -- or 33.4, and we landed at 33.1 estimate this year.

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 And then we're expecting to go to 33.5.

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 So that's -- we're expecting our rate revenue to grow by 350,000.

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 And then our non-rate revenues, they dipped from previous year and from budget, and we're

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 expecting them to increase by a half a million dollars or about 30% from this year actual

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 to next year budget.

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 And then personnel were over a million dollars below, but then we're expecting to spend two

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 million dollars more next year.

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 So I feel like there's just kind of a standard trend here, and the indication is there was

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 like a one-time dip in the financials, and we're going to go back.

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 And I'm just wondering what justifies that view that it's a one-time -- just this year

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 we have less revenue and less personnel cost, but next year we're going to be right back

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 on trend.

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 >> Well, and you also don't have any information on proposed rate changes, so we don't know

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 if that's part of your budget.

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 >> Well, yeah, just trying to understand.

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 I'm not like --

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 >> 2.5% increase.

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 >> Sure.

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 I'll have to look a little deeper.

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 I don't know that number off the top of my head, but I'll have to dig a little bit to

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 get that answer for you.

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 >> Okay.

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 And one more, just slightly more focused question, the personnel expenditures were a million

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 dollars under budget.

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 Is that like less overtime, or kind of less services needed, or was that just a lot of

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 belt tightening?

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 >> Well, I believe we forecasted the comp and class study to occur a little earlier in the

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 year.

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 Is that --

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 >> The current fiscal year -- if you remember back to last -- the fiscal year we're in now,

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 we added an amount for solid waste to have the comp and class study for the full year.

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 We didn't -- we're not implementing that until late July, early August.

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 So the budget for the current fiscal year is somewhat elevated due to that comp and

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 class amount that we haven't utilized.

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 Also, this contemplates the vacancies that are in the solid waste fund.

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 >> Okay.

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 Yeah, that's great information.

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 I'm just trying to --

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 >> Sure.

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 >> I'm just trying to understand --

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 >> Yeah, no problem.

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 No problem.

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 I appreciate the questions.

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 >> When it trends down, but we're saying it's going up.

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 >> Sure.

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 >> You know, so --

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 >> Sure.

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 And the same for non-rate revenues.

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 Those are -- that's based on a projection of year-to-date actuals, so it could be that,

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 you know, they see some of their revenue in the summertime or something similar to that.

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 I know with water and with DME, that's the case, so --

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 >> Yeah.

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 Yeah.

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 Thank you.

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 >> Sure.

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 Any other questions on --

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 >> Any questions?

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 >> On this slide?

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 Okay.

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 >> All right.

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 Thank you.

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 >> So I'm sorry.

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 >> Sure.

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 >> It doesn't have to be on that slide.

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 It can be on proposed rate changes, but since you are waiting on the compensation study

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 --

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 >> Correct.

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 Still -- or not the compensation, but the rate --

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 >> The cost of service studies.

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 >> Cost of service.

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 >> Mm-hmm.

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 >> Okay.

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 Did you use the current rates to figure all your revenues and such?

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 >> The current rates are calculated in this pro forma.

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 >> All right.

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 That's all.

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 Thank you.

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 >> Sure.

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 And then we are proposing to change a few rates outside of the cost of service study.

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 The less than 12-foot grass and leaves and brush is currently 25, proposing to increase

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 all of these rates by $5.

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 Grass leaves and brush over 12 feet, the non-city of Denton brush rate, and the minimum charge

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 for brush.

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 >> And that's for -- that goes into the landfill, not the recycling, or is it the recycling?

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 >> This is for the landfill, I believe.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> It's recycling.

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 Oh, I'm sorry.

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 This is recycling.

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 >> Okay.

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 Okay.

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 >> Any other questions on that one?

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 >> I need to make sure I understand something, but this is when I bring it to your facility.

00:16:18.560 --> 00:16:21.800
 It's not what's going out on the curb at my house.

00:16:21.800 --> 00:16:26.640
 >> I believe wastewater asked for increased rates for this, so they could cover costs

00:16:26.640 --> 00:16:29.200
 of the beneficial reuse.

00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:30.200
 >> Okay.

00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.440
 >> So this is what it costs to go over the scale with your yard waste.

00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:35.440
 >> Okay.

00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:36.440
 Thank you.

00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.240
 >> So I want to give you a specific example of a friend of mine.

00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.600
 >> He's asking for a friend.

00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.040
 >> I'm asking for a friend.

00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:45.040
 That's right.

00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:48.320
 Honestly, my neighbor doesn't have a pickup truck, and he said, "Hey, we carry this stuff

00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.600
 out to the landfill so we can recycle it with those trash bags full of leaves," right?

00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:54.960
 So I get to the landfill.

00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.480
 That's my first time in 10 years I've probably been there, you know, but I say, "Okay, I've

00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:06.840
 got, you know, 12 bags of very full leaves only, maybe some brush, but it's all yard

00:17:06.840 --> 00:17:07.840
 waste."

00:17:07.840 --> 00:17:10.240
 He said, I said, "Can I take it to recycling?"

00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.800
 He said, "Oh, yeah," he said, "but you'll have to break those bags open yourself, cut

00:17:13.800 --> 00:17:17.920
 all those bags open and dump it into the recycling area."

00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:19.920
 I said, "How much just to put it in the landfill?"

00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.920
 Of course, that's me being lazy.

00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.000
 He said, "Oh, $25 by the size of your pickup."

00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:29.760
 I'm like, "Okay, here we go landfill."

00:17:29.760 --> 00:17:37.880
 So anyway, I guess that's more of a comment than a question of, I don't know if there's

00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:44.200
 something we can do to promote lazy people like me to go to do their recycling better

00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:50.560
 or what, but you do all your work at the recycling when you drop off things that are recycling,

00:17:50.560 --> 00:17:51.560
 right?

00:17:51.560 --> 00:17:55.640
 Unless you put it in your blue cart out in front of your house.

00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.480
 So that $25 minimum charge would apply to the yard waste as well.

00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:07.560
 So if it's less than a ton or less than whatever the difference of what tonnage is, I think

00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:14.280
 it's half a ton or 0.45 would be $25 no matter what you bring in, so it would be the yard

00:18:14.280 --> 00:18:15.280
 waste as well as trash.

00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:20.200
 Right, I guess more of my comment was it promoted me to go to the landfill instead of the recycling

00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:21.200
 area.

00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:26.080
 I'm working with wastewater to make sure that we're making it more of an incentive to recycle

00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:27.360
 versus bring it to the trash.

00:18:27.360 --> 00:18:29.680
 So all of these would still be less than the landfill rate.

00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:36.920
 I'd rather pay you the $25 or $30 and you break open the bags, you know what I'm saying?

00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:42.040
 I could see that, but then that would cause for an FTE, I imagine, to be breaking all

00:18:42.040 --> 00:18:43.040
 that plastic open.

00:18:43.040 --> 00:18:45.080
 So then it wouldn't be $25 anymore.

00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:48.260
 I don't know, recycling guy just said recycle.

00:18:48.260 --> 00:18:51.940
 They sell paper bags for yard waste at Walmart and Ace.

00:18:51.940 --> 00:18:58.520
 This was my name, you just didn't have a pick-up, I don't own a lawn mower, so that shows you

00:18:58.520 --> 00:19:01.520
 where my leaves go.

00:19:01.520 --> 00:19:07.240
 Okay, then we have a couple that we're proposing to remove, the contaminated grass, brush and

00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:15.920
 leaves for $44 and then the whole trees and stumps removal of $50.

00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:20.880
 And so those just become a regular solid waste or a regular brush.

00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:21.880
 Right.

00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:33.280
 So moving on to their capital plan, for FY2024, solid waste has $10.6 million planned for

00:19:33.280 --> 00:19:41.360
 capital projects or capital expenses, I'm sorry, and then 8.9 in FY25 and moving on

00:19:41.360 --> 00:19:47.200
 from there for a total five-year CIP of $54.4 million.

00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:54.300
 Of that amount, $45.8 million will be bond funded and $8.9 million revenue funded.

00:19:54.300 --> 00:20:02.040
 In FY2024, we're contemplating $7 million of bonds and $3.5 million of revenue funded

00:20:02.040 --> 00:20:07.040
 for a total of $10.6 million for '24.

00:20:07.040 --> 00:20:14.520
 So the key projects included in that are cell 5 and 6 construction in years '24 and '25

00:20:14.520 --> 00:20:20.520
 for a total of $5.4 million, the home chemical collection storage capacity in fiscal year

00:20:20.520 --> 00:20:28.560
 2024 for $2 million, and vehicle replacements in 2024 of $5.6 million.

00:20:28.560 --> 00:20:33.960
 Question on the vehicle plan, does that include any heavy equipment?

00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:34.960
 I believe it does.

00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:38.800
 Okay, because it says vehicles here, and I don't think there's a backup in here of what

00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:39.800
 you're buying.

00:20:39.800 --> 00:20:40.800
 Is there?

00:20:40.800 --> 00:20:41.800
 There's not.

00:20:41.800 --> 00:20:42.800
 You're correct.

00:20:42.800 --> 00:20:43.800
 Why would you not?

00:20:43.800 --> 00:20:47.120
 I mean, is that -- We can provide it if you'd like.

00:20:47.120 --> 00:20:48.120
 Yeah.

00:20:48.120 --> 00:20:49.120
 Sure.

00:20:49.120 --> 00:20:50.120
 Yes, please.

00:20:50.120 --> 00:20:51.120
 Yes, please.

00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:52.120
 No problem.

00:20:52.120 --> 00:21:00.520
 Would you all like that for the funds you've already seen as well for DME and environmental

00:21:00.520 --> 00:21:01.520
 services?

00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:05.000
 I don't think environmental services had any, but for DME, would you like the same information?

00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.000
 For DME?

00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.000
 You've already seen that presentation.

00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.360
 I'm not talking about the transmission lines or anything like that.

00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:11.200
 No, just the vehicle replacement plan.

00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.000
 Yeah, there you go.

00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:14.000
 Please.

00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.000
 Okay.

00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:20.320
 So any other questions on capital before we move on?

00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:21.320
 No.

00:21:21.320 --> 00:21:26.440
 So Solid Waste does not have any baseline adjustment requests, and they have two supplemental

00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:34.840
 requests, one is the merit increase, and then the second is a cart washing truck for $130,000

00:21:34.840 --> 00:21:38.960
 that is coming from the capital budget versus the operating budget.

00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:47.120
 And then the next steps is we'll come back with to you all on July 10th for the rates,

00:21:47.120 --> 00:21:50.640
 and then for your approval on July 24th.

00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:55.000
 Any other questions?

00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.160
 Seeing none.

00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:58.160
 Thank you.

00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:01.160
 Right, you're welcome.

00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:12.480
 So we will move into the water presentation, looking around the room for Steven, oh, there

00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:13.480
 he is.

00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:18.480
 I'm like, where'd he go?

00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.480
 I didn't leave you, Danielle.

00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.360
 Hi, Steven Gay, Director of Water Utilities.

00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:24.360
 Good morning.

00:22:24.360 --> 00:22:33.480
 So, I'm just showing you the matrix, one of the matrix we go by is our breaks per hundred

00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:40.280
 miles of pipe, industry standard is 13 or 15 breaks per hundred miles of pipe, is representative

00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:43.840
 of a well run maintained distribution system.

00:22:43.840 --> 00:22:50.960
 You can see in 2020 we had a little blip there, that was due to winter storm Uri, but for

00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.920
 all intents and purposes we're trending in the right direction.

00:22:54.920 --> 00:23:02.400
 So here's the organizational chart, we currently have 173 FTEs on the water side of the equation,

00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:07.640
 I've got myself, and there's four functional areas of planning and engineering division,

00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:12.440
 treatment division, field operations division and administrative division.

00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:19.920
 FTE summary, you'll see that there's a slight increase in both our admin and in our production

00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:26.240
 teams, and that is due to the request or supplemental request to add on the administrative side of

00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:32.760
 the equation one project manager and one inspector, and on the production side of the equation

00:23:32.760 --> 00:23:36.200
 it's two electricians and two maintenance mechanics.

00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:43.480
 And there they are right there.

00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:49.240
 Strategic initiatives is develop and to develop and update our master plans, as you've heard

00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:54.080
 me talk about our wastewater master plan, we're also doing what we call our one water

00:23:54.080 --> 00:23:59.560
 master plan, which includes our reclaim water master plan, our water master plan, our comprehensive

00:23:59.560 --> 00:24:05.720
 water supply plan, we're also doing our drought management plan, and we're doing conservation

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:09.200
 planning as well, we're refreshing that.

00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:14.960
 With regards to contracts and operating agreements, we are diligently working to resolve some expired

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:24.840
 agreements with the city of Dallas, Upper Trinity, but we have updated our wastewater agreements

00:24:24.840 --> 00:24:32.600
 for Crumb, Argyle, Lake Cities and Corinth, and we're negotiating those agreements currently.

00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:37.400
 With regards to regional partnerships, you know, it's our intention to foster regional

00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:43.600
 collaboration in developing sustainable supply water supplies with the city of Dallas and

00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:48.400
 Upper Trinity Regional Water District, we're also looking at fostering collaborative working

00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:56.640
 relationships with those partner cities, Crumb, Sanger, Corinth, Argyle, and Lake Cities as

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:57.640
 well.

00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:02.480
 I believe that's pretty much it from the water perspective, and I'll turn it over to Danielle

00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:07.480
 for the financials.

00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.360
 I just want to make one quick comment on Stephen's.

00:25:10.360 --> 00:25:14.960
 In initiative three, this does say Ponder, we don't have a partnership with Ponder, so

00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:19.800
 just wanted to make that clear that there is a mistake in your presentation.

00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:26.720
 Okay, so for water financials, the same growth percentage as the other utilities, also the

00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:32.720
 same expense projections, increase in personnel services for comp and class, merit increases

00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:40.040
 and inflation costs, as well as the 2% increase in maintenance and operations.

00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:44.960
 There are no rate increases contemplated for FY 2024.

00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:56.400
 As you can see here, we are expected to come in under budget on revenue, as well as expenditures

00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.240
 for the current fiscal year.

00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:07.200
 Again, that's in personnel services, the expenditure is, it includes the year, includes the full

00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.960
 compensation and classification study, we're not implementing that until later this year,

00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:19.480
 so we do have a savings, so to speak there, that is, and then the revenue funded capital

00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:24.040
 is expected to be about $7 million less, so those two items make up the large portion

00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:30.480
 of the decrease in expenses for the current fiscal year.

00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:37.760
 For FY 2024, we're using more impact fees, as you can see in the revenue, we're bringing

00:26:37.760 --> 00:26:43.640
 in $11.6 million, which is $5 million more than we did last year.

00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:49.600
 You can see in the expenses that we're also expending that, those impact fees and impact

00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:56.480
 fee revenue funding, and that makes up for some of the difference in the higher expenses

00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.720
 in FY 2024.

00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:03.880
 So you'll see that personnel services decrease, that's due to some positions going to the

00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:09.840
 Environmental Services and Sustainability Fund, and also some of those expenses moved over

00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:15.560
 there with those, so that's why there's a decrease in operating expenditures as well.

00:27:15.560 --> 00:27:20.480
 Same for transfers, so moving those positions had a big change to the water fund because

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.400
 that's where a lot of this came from.

00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.120
 And then we are meeting all of our target reserves, we're contemplating a rate increase

00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:39.320
 beginning in FY 2025 with a 7%, 8% in '26, 9% in '27, and 3% in 2028.

00:27:39.320 --> 00:27:43.760
 That does keep us within our target reserves as well as meet the debt service coverage

00:27:43.760 --> 00:27:46.880
 ratio requirement.

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:51.400
 Is there a reason why you're not contemplating a rate increase this year to kind of flatten

00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.880
 the, so it's not such a large increase in the next three years?

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.200
 We could, we could look at that scenario.

00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:02.880
 We're trying to keep the rate increases to a minimum, and we know that there's possibly

00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.240
 going to be a rate increase in solid waste depending on the cost of service study, and

00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:07.720
 the same for DME.

00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.400
 So we're just trying to keep the rate increases to a minimum.

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:16.120
 And you'll likely see, wastewater is not being presented today, but you'll likely see a rate

00:28:16.120 --> 00:28:21.000
 increase on the wastewater side, so trying to just do what we can to keep the rates overall

00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.000
 at a minimum.

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.000
 All right.

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:24.000
 Thank you.

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.000
 All right.

00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.000
 That's fine.

00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.960
 Any other questions on the pro forma before we move on?

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:37.680
 Okay, so the water capital plan contemplates about $97 million for FY 2024.

00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:43.160
 You can see the largest drivers there are the plant improvements and the replacement

00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.160
 lines.

00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:51.200
 Of that $96.5 million, $82.7 million is bond funded.

00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:57.040
 About $8 million is revenue funded, $5 million is impact fee funded, and then $810,000 is

00:28:57.040 --> 00:29:02.880
 the vehicle replacement funds, and we'll get you a list of what that includes.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:09.360
 And then for '25 and '26, you can see that we've increased the use of impact fees.

00:29:09.360 --> 00:29:15.760
 That was also reflected in the pro forma, to help with that $118 million in the CIP.

00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:21.880
 Over the five years, we have a total of $377 million across the five years in this water

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.880
 CIP.

00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.440
 Some of their key projects and ... Oh, go ahead.

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.760
 I missed what you said about impact fees.

00:29:29.760 --> 00:29:31.200
 Sure, no problem.

00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:38.000
 So if we come back to the pro forma, you can see that we've used about $6.6 million up

00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.120
 to this point in 2024, we're starting to increase the use of impact fee funding, so we're increasing

00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:51.280
 it by $5 million in '24, by $20 million in '25, and $10 million in 2026, so we're just

00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:57.880
 trying to bring that balance down and actually use what we have available to help offset

00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.800
 those rate increases in some of that capital debt service.

00:30:01.800 --> 00:30:06.800
 And so that's impact fees that have been collected over the past ...

00:30:06.800 --> 00:30:13.240
 Correct, that's ... Yeah, I was like, that is a whole lot of residential lots going in

00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.240
 in 2025.

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.240
 Yes, sir.

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:16.240
 That's a good clarification.

00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.240
 Yes, sir.

00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:18.240
 Thank you.

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:25.300
 That is funds we have existing in the fund that we're just using at this point.

00:30:25.300 --> 00:30:30.680
 Some of the large capital improvement projects are the AMI/AMR replacements, though that's

00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.680
 going to occur in '24 and '25.

00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:39.780
 The Lake Louisville plant raw water transmission line for $7.5 million, that's scheduled to

00:30:39.780 --> 00:30:42.380
 happen in FY 2024.

00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:47.840
 The Ray Roberts plant expansion and the capacity re-rate and performance upgrades, those are

00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:48.840
 very large amounts.

00:30:48.840 --> 00:30:56.120
 You can see these totals are across the five-year CIP, those are not only 2024 totals.

00:30:56.120 --> 00:31:02.800
 And then finally the supplement to the bond 2019 for $27 million for a total of $235.9

00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:09.520
 million over the five years for the key projects.

00:31:09.520 --> 00:31:14.400
 Water has no baseline adjustments requests, a handful of supplemental requests, as Stephen's

00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.440
 already touched on.

00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:24.920
 He's requesting a project manager, an inspector, and four technicians, and then the merit increase

00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.960
 and a vehicle and truck.

00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:38.840
 The total supplemental request is $1.1 million for FY 2024.

00:31:38.840 --> 00:31:40.580
 Any questions on supplementals?

00:31:40.580 --> 00:31:41.580
 Sure.

00:31:41.580 --> 00:31:47.480
 So the new positions get a truck, and then there's just adding another truck, too, just

00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:48.760
 so I understand that.

00:31:48.760 --> 00:31:49.760
 Correct?

00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:50.760
 We are adding a truck.

00:31:50.760 --> 00:31:55.000
 I'll have to look and tell you what that is for specifically, but you are correct.

00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.240
 It is not added.

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.000
 It is not related to an FTE.

00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.000
 Okay.

00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.000
 Thank you.

00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.000
 Sure.

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:11.560
 When city people have trucks or cars or things, so many of them don't live in Denton.

00:32:11.560 --> 00:32:15.000
 Do they take their cars home at night?

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.200
 I don't believe so.

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.480
 I believe the only time that they take a vehicle home is if they're on call, but I will get

00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.360
 you a firm answer on that.

00:32:23.360 --> 00:32:24.360
 Stephen's coming up.

00:32:24.360 --> 00:32:25.360
 Oh, okay.

00:32:25.360 --> 00:32:31.040
 I definitely understand police taking their -- that's a service.

00:32:31.040 --> 00:32:32.040
 Danielle is correct on that.

00:32:32.040 --> 00:32:36.640
 They don't take the vehicles home, only if they're on call, and then there's also -- the

00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:41.480
 employee is charged a fringe benefit fee on their pay because it's considered a fringe

00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.760
 benefit when they take a vehicle home.

00:32:43.760 --> 00:32:44.760
 Okay.

00:32:44.760 --> 00:32:45.760
 Thank you.

00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:46.760
 IRS rules.

00:32:46.760 --> 00:32:47.760
 Appreciate that.

00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:53.280
 Any other questions on the supplementals?

00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:54.280
 Thank you.

00:32:54.280 --> 00:32:55.280
 You're welcome.

00:32:55.280 --> 00:32:56.280
 Okay.

00:32:56.280 --> 00:33:00.400
 So for rate changes, we're requesting that two rates be removed, the Dino dirt overs

00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:10.240
 for $3 a cubic yard and the Dino Deco colored mulch for $30 a cubic yard.

00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:11.720
 What is an over?

00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.000
 That's a great question.

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:21.280
 You're getting your steps in today.

00:33:21.280 --> 00:33:22.960
 It's essentially some excess.

00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.600
 So if we have excess materials, we sell it as an overage.

00:33:25.600 --> 00:33:26.600
 Excuse me.

00:33:26.600 --> 00:33:27.600
 I can't hear you.

00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:28.600
 I'm sorry.

00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:29.680
 It's essentially an excess.

00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:35.000
 So when we have excess materials, it's an overage, and we sell it at a reduced price.

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.000
 Okay.

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.000
 Those are just --

00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:38.000
 Going away.

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.000
 Going away.

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.000
 Yes, sir.

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.000
 Well, I think she's not wrong.

00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.000
 Yeah.

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:52.720
 Well, just jumping into rates again, you're waiting on the rate study, obviously, right?

00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.120
 We do not have a rate study for water going on.

00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:56.120
 Okay.

00:33:56.120 --> 00:34:00.600
 So what about the -- I'm going to miss the impact fees was going to be my question.

00:34:00.600 --> 00:34:03.680
 Do you see those increasing?

00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.080
 We are under the -- so can you hear me?

00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:08.080
 Yeah.

00:34:08.080 --> 00:34:12.600
 We're currently looking at our impact fees, but we're going to align our impact fee study

00:34:12.600 --> 00:34:17.200
 with the roadway impact fee study, because there's some special considerations with the

00:34:17.200 --> 00:34:21.160
 Hunter coal development, and so we just want to make sure that we're both -- both of those

00:34:21.160 --> 00:34:23.120
 studies are in lockstep with one another.

00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:24.120
 I understand.

00:34:24.120 --> 00:34:26.360
 The big developments, you're going to go in and make a deal, right?

00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:27.360
 Yes, sir.

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.360
 Yeah.

00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.120
 I mean, that's -- it is electric, water, silver, everything, but, like, just -- there's going

00:34:31.120 --> 00:34:35.240
 to be a standard impact fee for a guy buying four lots or something, right?

00:34:35.240 --> 00:34:36.240
 Yes, there will be.

00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:38.080
 It will continue to be that way.

00:34:38.080 --> 00:34:39.760
 Do you see that increasing as well?

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.800
 I do see it increasing slightly.

00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:42.800
 Okay.

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:43.800
 Yeah.

00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:44.800
 How's this going on?

00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:45.800
 That's probably your concern too.

00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:46.800
 Yeah.

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:47.800
 Okay.

00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:48.800
 Thank you.

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:57.920
 So the next slide -- the final slide is just the next steps, same as solid waste.

00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:58.920
 Okay.

00:34:58.920 --> 00:34:59.920
 Any final questions?

00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:00.920
 Okay.

00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:01.920
 Any final questions?

00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.920
 No?

00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:03.920
 Thank you.

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:04.920
 Okay.

00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:05.920
 Thank y'all.

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.920
 All right.

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:07.920
 It is 935.

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.920
 Do you -- motion to adjourn, Billy?

00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:09.920
 I'd like to make a motion to adjourn.

00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:10.920
 Okay.

00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:11.920
 You're adjourned.

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:12.920
 Thank you.

00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:18.600
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