1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,120 Okay, it is nine o'clock and we do have a quorum, so I'll call to order the Public Utilities 2 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:13,680 Board for the City of Denton on Monday, June 26, 2023. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,120 The first item is presentations from the public. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,440 Does anyone from the public wish to speak? 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Oh, you're not public. 6 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:27,660 Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda. 7 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:32,500 Does any board member wish to pull any items of A through D? 8 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:35,140 I see none. 9 00:00:35,140 --> 00:00:39,080 Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda items A through D? 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Move approval. 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Okay. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Barber approved. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Second. 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,080 And Devin seconds. 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,080 All in favor say aye. 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Aye. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Aye. 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,080 That carries. 19 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:54,640 The next item is consider approval of the June 12, 2023 minutes. 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Are there any changes or corrections? 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Move approval. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,920 It moves approval. 23 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:00,920 Devin seconds. 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,920 All in favor? 25 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,920 Aye. 26 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,920 That carries. 27 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Management reports. 28 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Mr. Dixon. 29 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:12,600 We'll see if it wants to cooperate. 30 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,000 There it goes. 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Good morning, Madam Chair, board members. 32 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,640 We have nothing this week to present. 33 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Okay. 34 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,960 This is going to be a quick board meeting. 35 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:25,960 Okay. 36 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:26,960 That brings us to concluding items. 37 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:30,840 Does any board member wish to have a future item added to an agenda or have anything they'd 38 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,200 like to say to the public? 39 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,440 I would just like to thank Larry Beck for his service on the PUB for the last couple 40 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,440 of years. 41 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,520 He has resigned, so we're looking for replacements, which is why we're almost not at a quorum 42 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,520 today. 43 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,120 But that's it. 44 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Okay. 45 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,040 In the next public session, receive a report and hold a discussion and give direction regarding 46 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,760 the solid waste recycling and water fiscal year '23-'24 preliminary budgets. 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:07,200 This will take a little bit longer. 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Good morning, PUB, Danielle Stanford, budget manager. 49 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,400 So this format will be similar to what you saw at the last PUB meeting. 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,680 So we'll have the department present the first portion of the presentation, and then I'll 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,360 come back up for the financial portion of the presentations with Tammy if you'd like 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,360 to come up. 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:35,880 We'll start with the solid waste budget. 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Good morning. 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,080 Tammy Clausing, assistant director for solid waste. 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Currently the landfill has 65 years of useful life left, and in order to extend that life, 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:54,000 one of the tactics we use is diversion, being able to divert as much as possible. 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,320 I want to draw -- I'm not going to go through all of these metrics, but the one that I want 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,200 to draw you to is the bottom one, the overall diversion rate. 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,380 All of the metrics above it some way somehow feed into that. 61 00:03:06,380 --> 00:03:10,180 So last year we had an overall diversion rate of 8 percent. 62 00:03:10,180 --> 00:03:15,360 This year our year-end estimate is roughly 10 percent, and we have a goal of 15 percent, 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,540 which I believe to be a little conservative. 64 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:22,360 We have a organics pilot that we're running, and hopefully it's successful and we can expand 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:28,440 that along with a commercial diversion article that we're going over in the next month or 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,520 so, and hopefully that can increase the diversion as well. 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:38,240 But we're making progress in increasing that diversion and extending the life of the landfill. 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Our current department structure, we have our director of solid waste with the deputy 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,600 director, myself, and the safety coordinator reporting. 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,920 We have a landfill team, an operations team, administration team, site ops, and a home 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,560 chemical collections with a total FTE count of 135. 72 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Here we have a breakdown by FTEs by HBU. 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Last year we had 128. 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,200 We asked for seven more and got 135, and next year we'll have 133. 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Two of those FTEs moving to the environmental services and sustainability where they more appropriately belong. 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Our strategic initiatives, goals, and visions. 77 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:29,360 Our first initiative is implementing our comprehensive solid waste management strategy, and we'll 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,120 be implementing our comprehensive diversion ordinance, also known as our commercial diversion 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:40,440 article, expanding our organics diversion program, expanding our home chemical center 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,720 capacity and reuse, identifying and implementing alternative diversion opportunities like styrofoam 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,560 densifying, plastic film, pallets, mattresses, any opportunities we can find. 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:58,960 We'll also be providing education and outreach to support these program implementations. 83 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,920 And our second initiative is repairing our Mosley Road landfill property by completing 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,720 repairs and determining long-term use of landfill property. 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,080 This we'll hand it over to Danielle. 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Thank you. 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:21,280 >> All right, so the financial assumptions for the solid waste fund are 2.5% residential 88 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:27,280 growth, if that's consistent with the other utilities, a 3% commercial roll-off growth. 89 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:32,860 The revenue projections include the wholesale agreements in the amount of $4 million. 90 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:39,040 The expense projections include a contribution to the post-closure, post-closure fund, an 91 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,320 increase in personnel services costs, the same increase that you saw last week for electric 92 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,520 and environmental services. 93 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,360 It is the compensation classification study that was previously approved by city council 94 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,120 on May 16th. 95 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Merit increases, those are contingent upon city council approval with the budget. 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,640 And then annual inflation costs. 97 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,520 And then additionally, it includes a 2% increase in operations and maintenance growth. 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,320 So you can see the pro forma here. 99 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:19,880 We expect to end the current fiscal year about $2 million under budget and revenue. 100 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,440 You can see at the top, the total resources there. 101 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Expenditures line up with what we're planning to receive in revenue, about $2 million under 102 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440 budget for the current fiscal year. 103 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,080 For FY24, no major changes. 104 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,000 That jump in personnel services is comp in class. 105 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:47,400 Again, the 2% across the board in operations and maintenance expenses. 106 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,560 And that looks like it's about it for that. 107 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,400 We are not contemplating rate increases until FY26 in this pro forma. 108 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,200 However, we are meeting all of our minimum target reserves and the debt service coverage 109 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,960 ratio requirements. 110 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Can you explain the non-rate revenues? 111 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Sure. 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Tammy, I'm going to let you -- you want to know what makes that up, right? 113 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:26,720 The non-rate revenue. 114 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,120 We get a little bit back from our recycling program. 115 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:39,800 I'm trying to remember some of the other scrap metal, just different items that we're able 116 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,540 to sell. 117 00:07:42,540 --> 00:07:44,920 More of the diversion type opportunities. 118 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Okay. 119 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,920 Thank you. 120 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Any other questions on the pro forma? 121 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Seeing none. 122 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,520 So proposed rate changes, we are undergoing a cost of service study now. 123 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,840 So the consultant will be with us on the meeting on July 10th to go over their findings in 124 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,600 the study. 125 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,520 We do have some fees outside of the study that we're proposing to change. 126 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,580 We're proposing to implement a recycling card fee of $15. 127 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:24,280 This would apply to any residents receiving three or more cards. 128 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,120 So the first three would be included. 129 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,320 And then the fourth one would begin that $15 additional fee. 130 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,200 And then a few -- some updates to the rate ordinance language, just to specify that any 131 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,480 waste greater than four cubic yards will not be picked up, and it will require a container 132 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,200 or a roll-off. 133 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:50,660 The outside of container bag charge, that this will be limited to five. 134 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:55,600 And then finally, that appliances and electronics does not include dishwashers. 135 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Yes, ma'am? 136 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Give me an example of what four cubic yards is. 137 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,800 That's a great question. 138 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Four dish -- four washer or dryers. 139 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 So take a washer, and that would be one cubic yard. 140 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,240 So four of those. 141 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,240 About four of those. 142 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,240 Yeah. 143 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,240 About this. 144 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Yeah. 145 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,720 And then your cart would be very similar. 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,720 And this applies -- 147 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Thanks. 148 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,800 That's a good example. 149 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,920 And this applies just to kind of solid waste and large household -- what's the term? 150 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Large household weight objects or -- 151 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,880 The bulky waste? 152 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Bulky waste. 153 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Yeah. 154 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,440 So not like yard waste. 155 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,440 No. 156 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,840 We have -- this is more of cleaning up some of the rates in the rate book. 157 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,520 It's just like a floating sentence there doesn't -- kind of what chapter or what section it 158 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,520 applies to. 159 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Just want to make sure. 160 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:59,120 I do have some questions on -- so this year are -- both revenues and expenditures are 161 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,200 below pretty -- like this year's budget. 162 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:10,280 But there's a significant step up, basically, to the 2023 budget -- 2024 budget is slightly 163 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,000 larger than 2023 budget. 164 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,600 But personnel is showing this year to be a million dollars under what was budgeted. 165 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:28,960 And then the revenues seem to -- I'm curious -- I just need to understand how we budgeted 166 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:36,240 at 41, come in at 39, we're budgeting at 41 and a little bit, like, you know, a couple 167 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,320 percent growth. 168 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:47,840 What caused this dip and why do we think the dip is going to be over next year? 169 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,280 You're talking about the dip and the estimate to propose, is that right? 170 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,400 Estimate to -- yeah, so we had a budget and then we had an estimate and then we're recovering 171 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:02,160 -- then our next budget seems to be linear off the budget. 172 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:12,320 So that seems to indicate we think the actuals this year were a one-time occurrence to be, 173 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:22,280 you know, over -- what is that -- one in a two million-ish below revenue and two million 174 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,360 below on expenditures. 175 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 So our revenue is actually only about a million less. 176 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:35,420 If you look at the total revenue line at the top section, the budget was 39.4 million. 177 00:11:35,420 --> 00:11:41,220 We're estimated to come in at 38.4 million. 178 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:45,600 That difference -- Yeah, so that -- we're using reserves to make up the expenditure 179 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,240 amount, the difference in expenditures. 180 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,400 We are expected to be under and personnel services this year. 181 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:57,720 That's based off of a forecast of what we spent year to date. 182 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,960 What we do anticipate with comping class and the possible merit increase that that will 183 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,960 come back up for FY24. 184 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Okay. 185 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Yeah, so I guess looking at just rate revenues, we were at 31.3 in 2022. 186 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:19,780 We budgeted 31.4 -- or 33.4, and we landed at 33.1 estimate this year. 187 00:12:19,780 --> 00:12:22,880 And then we're expecting to go to 33.5. 188 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,900 So that's -- we're expecting our rate revenue to grow by 350,000. 189 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:36,160 And then our non-rate revenues, they dipped from previous year and from budget, and we're 190 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,120 expecting them to increase by a half a million dollars or about 30% from this year actual 191 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,320 to next year budget. 192 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,540 And then personnel were over a million dollars below, but then we're expecting to spend two 193 00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:52,280 million dollars more next year. 194 00:12:52,280 --> 00:13:00,200 So I feel like there's just kind of a standard trend here, and the indication is there was 195 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:06,440 like a one-time dip in the financials, and we're going to go back. 196 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:13,120 And I'm just wondering what justifies that view that it's a one-time -- just this year 197 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,360 we have less revenue and less personnel cost, but next year we're going to be right back 198 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,080 on trend. 199 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,960 >> Well, and you also don't have any information on proposed rate changes, so we don't know 200 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,160 if that's part of your budget. 201 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,320 >> Well, yeah, just trying to understand. 202 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,320 I'm not like -- 203 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,320 >> 2.5% increase. 204 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,320 >> Sure. 205 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 I'll have to look a little deeper. 206 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,800 I don't know that number off the top of my head, but I'll have to dig a little bit to 207 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,720 get that answer for you. 208 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,720 >> Okay. 209 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,640 And one more, just slightly more focused question, the personnel expenditures were a million 210 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,640 dollars under budget. 211 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Is that like less overtime, or kind of less services needed, or was that just a lot of 212 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,200 belt tightening? 213 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,360 >> Well, I believe we forecasted the comp and class study to occur a little earlier in the 214 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,360 year. 215 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Is that -- 216 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,400 >> The current fiscal year -- if you remember back to last -- the fiscal year we're in now, 217 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,920 we added an amount for solid waste to have the comp and class study for the full year. 218 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,640 We didn't -- we're not implementing that until late July, early August. 219 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,960 So the budget for the current fiscal year is somewhat elevated due to that comp and 220 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,920 class amount that we haven't utilized. 221 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Also, this contemplates the vacancies that are in the solid waste fund. 222 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,760 >> Okay. 223 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Yeah, that's great information. 224 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,760 I'm just trying to -- 225 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,760 >> Sure. 226 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,760 >> I'm just trying to understand -- 227 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,760 >> Yeah, no problem. 228 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,760 No problem. 229 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,760 I appreciate the questions. 230 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,760 >> When it trends down, but we're saying it's going up. 231 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,760 >> Sure. 232 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,760 >> You know, so -- 233 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,760 >> Sure. 234 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,760 And the same for non-rate revenues. 235 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Those are -- that's based on a projection of year-to-date actuals, so it could be that, 236 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,320 you know, they see some of their revenue in the summertime or something similar to that. 237 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 I know with water and with DME, that's the case, so -- 238 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,120 >> Yeah. 239 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Yeah. 240 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,120 Thank you. 241 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,120 >> Sure. 242 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Any other questions on -- 243 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,120 >> Any questions? 244 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,120 >> On this slide? 245 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Okay. 246 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,120 >> All right. 247 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,120 Thank you. 248 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,120 >> So I'm sorry. 249 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,120 >> Sure. 250 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,080 >> It doesn't have to be on that slide. 251 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:11,360 It can be on proposed rate changes, but since you are waiting on the compensation study 252 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,360 -- 253 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,360 >> Correct. 254 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,360 Still -- or not the compensation, but the rate -- 255 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,360 >> The cost of service studies. 256 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,360 >> Cost of service. 257 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,360 >> Mm-hmm. 258 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,360 >> Okay. 259 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Did you use the current rates to figure all your revenues and such? 260 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 >> The current rates are calculated in this pro forma. 261 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,160 >> All right. 262 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,160 That's all. 263 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Thank you. 264 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,160 >> Sure. 265 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,020 And then we are proposing to change a few rates outside of the cost of service study. 266 00:15:32,020 --> 00:15:38,800 The less than 12-foot grass and leaves and brush is currently 25, proposing to increase 267 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,480 all of these rates by $5. 268 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,440 Grass leaves and brush over 12 feet, the non-city of Denton brush rate, and the minimum charge 269 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,440 for brush. 270 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:56,280 >> And that's for -- that goes into the landfill, not the recycling, or is it the recycling? 271 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 >> This is for the landfill, I believe. 272 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,240 >> Okay. 273 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,240 >> It's recycling. 274 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Oh, I'm sorry. 275 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,240 This is recycling. 276 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,240 >> Okay. 277 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,240 Okay. 278 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:12,920 >> Any other questions on that one? 279 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,560 >> I need to make sure I understand something, but this is when I bring it to your facility. 280 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,800 It's not what's going out on the curb at my house. 281 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,640 >> I believe wastewater asked for increased rates for this, so they could cover costs 282 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,200 of the beneficial reuse. 283 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,200 >> Okay. 284 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,440 >> So this is what it costs to go over the scale with your yard waste. 285 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,440 >> Okay. 286 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Thank you. 287 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,240 >> So I want to give you a specific example of a friend of mine. 288 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,600 >> He's asking for a friend. 289 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,040 >> I'm asking for a friend. 290 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040 That's right. 291 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,320 Honestly, my neighbor doesn't have a pickup truck, and he said, "Hey, we carry this stuff 292 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,600 out to the landfill so we can recycle it with those trash bags full of leaves," right? 293 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,960 So I get to the landfill. 294 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,480 That's my first time in 10 years I've probably been there, you know, but I say, "Okay, I've 295 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:06,840 got, you know, 12 bags of very full leaves only, maybe some brush, but it's all yard 296 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,840 waste." 297 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,240 He said, I said, "Can I take it to recycling?" 298 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,800 He said, "Oh, yeah," he said, "but you'll have to break those bags open yourself, cut 299 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,920 all those bags open and dump it into the recycling area." 300 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,920 I said, "How much just to put it in the landfill?" 301 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,920 Of course, that's me being lazy. 302 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,000 He said, "Oh, $25 by the size of your pickup." 303 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,760 I'm like, "Okay, here we go landfill." 304 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:37,880 So anyway, I guess that's more of a comment than a question of, I don't know if there's 305 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:44,200 something we can do to promote lazy people like me to go to do their recycling better 306 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:50,560 or what, but you do all your work at the recycling when you drop off things that are recycling, 307 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,560 right? 308 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,640 Unless you put it in your blue cart out in front of your house. 309 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,480 So that $25 minimum charge would apply to the yard waste as well. 310 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:07,560 So if it's less than a ton or less than whatever the difference of what tonnage is, I think 311 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:14,280 it's half a ton or 0.45 would be $25 no matter what you bring in, so it would be the yard 312 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,280 waste as well as trash. 313 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Right, I guess more of my comment was it promoted me to go to the landfill instead of the recycling 314 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,200 area. 315 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,080 I'm working with wastewater to make sure that we're making it more of an incentive to recycle 316 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,360 versus bring it to the trash. 317 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,680 So all of these would still be less than the landfill rate. 318 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:36,920 I'd rather pay you the $25 or $30 and you break open the bags, you know what I'm saying? 319 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,040 I could see that, but then that would cause for an FTE, I imagine, to be breaking all 320 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,040 that plastic open. 321 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,080 So then it wouldn't be $25 anymore. 322 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,260 I don't know, recycling guy just said recycle. 323 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:51,940 They sell paper bags for yard waste at Walmart and Ace. 324 00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:58,520 This was my name, you just didn't have a pick-up, I don't own a lawn mower, so that shows you 325 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 where my leaves go. 326 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Okay, then we have a couple that we're proposing to remove, the contaminated grass, brush and 327 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:15,920 leaves for $44 and then the whole trees and stumps removal of $50. 328 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,880 And so those just become a regular solid waste or a regular brush. 329 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,880 Right. 330 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:33,280 So moving on to their capital plan, for FY2024, solid waste has $10.6 million planned for 331 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:41,360 capital projects or capital expenses, I'm sorry, and then 8.9 in FY25 and moving on 332 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:47,200 from there for a total five-year CIP of $54.4 million. 333 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:54,300 Of that amount, $45.8 million will be bond funded and $8.9 million revenue funded. 334 00:19:54,300 --> 00:20:02,040 In FY2024, we're contemplating $7 million of bonds and $3.5 million of revenue funded 335 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,040 for a total of $10.6 million for '24. 336 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:14,520 So the key projects included in that are cell 5 and 6 construction in years '24 and '25 337 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,520 for a total of $5.4 million, the home chemical collection storage capacity in fiscal year 338 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:28,560 2024 for $2 million, and vehicle replacements in 2024 of $5.6 million. 339 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Question on the vehicle plan, does that include any heavy equipment? 340 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,960 I believe it does. 341 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Okay, because it says vehicles here, and I don't think there's a backup in here of what 342 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,800 you're buying. 343 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,800 Is there? 344 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,800 There's not. 345 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,800 You're correct. 346 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Why would you not? 347 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,120 I mean, is that -- We can provide it if you'd like. 348 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,120 Yeah. 349 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,120 Sure. 350 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,120 Yes, please. 351 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,120 Yes, please. 352 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,120 No problem. 353 00:20:52,120 --> 00:21:00,520 Would you all like that for the funds you've already seen as well for DME and environmental 354 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,520 services? 355 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,000 I don't think environmental services had any, but for DME, would you like the same information? 356 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 For DME? 357 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 You've already seen that presentation. 358 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,360 I'm not talking about the transmission lines or anything like that. 359 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,200 No, just the vehicle replacement plan. 360 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Yeah, there you go. 361 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Please. 362 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Okay. 363 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,320 So any other questions on capital before we move on? 364 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,320 No. 365 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,440 So Solid Waste does not have any baseline adjustment requests, and they have two supplemental 366 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:34,840 requests, one is the merit increase, and then the second is a cart washing truck for $130,000 367 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,960 that is coming from the capital budget versus the operating budget. 368 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:47,120 And then the next steps is we'll come back with to you all on July 10th for the rates, 369 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,640 and then for your approval on July 24th. 370 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Any other questions? 371 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Seeing none. 372 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Thank you. 373 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Right, you're welcome. 374 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:12,480 So we will move into the water presentation, looking around the room for Steven, oh, there 375 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,480 he is. 376 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,480 I'm like, where'd he go? 377 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,480 I didn't leave you, Danielle. 378 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Hi, Steven Gay, Director of Water Utilities. 379 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:24,360 Good morning. 380 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:33,480 So, I'm just showing you the matrix, one of the matrix we go by is our breaks per hundred 381 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:40,280 miles of pipe, industry standard is 13 or 15 breaks per hundred miles of pipe, is representative 382 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,840 of a well run maintained distribution system. 383 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:50,960 You can see in 2020 we had a little blip there, that was due to winter storm Uri, but for 384 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,920 all intents and purposes we're trending in the right direction. 385 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:02,400 So here's the organizational chart, we currently have 173 FTEs on the water side of the equation, 386 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,640 I've got myself, and there's four functional areas of planning and engineering division, 387 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,440 treatment division, field operations division and administrative division. 388 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:19,920 FTE summary, you'll see that there's a slight increase in both our admin and in our production 389 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:26,240 teams, and that is due to the request or supplemental request to add on the administrative side of 390 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,760 the equation one project manager and one inspector, and on the production side of the equation 391 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,200 it's two electricians and two maintenance mechanics. 392 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:43,480 And there they are right there. 393 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Strategic initiatives is develop and to develop and update our master plans, as you've heard 394 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,080 me talk about our wastewater master plan, we're also doing what we call our one water 395 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,560 master plan, which includes our reclaim water master plan, our water master plan, our comprehensive 396 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,720 water supply plan, we're also doing our drought management plan, and we're doing conservation 397 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200 planning as well, we're refreshing that. 398 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,960 With regards to contracts and operating agreements, we are diligently working to resolve some expired 399 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:24,840 agreements with the city of Dallas, Upper Trinity, but we have updated our wastewater agreements 400 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:32,600 for Crumb, Argyle, Lake Cities and Corinth, and we're negotiating those agreements currently. 401 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,400 With regards to regional partnerships, you know, it's our intention to foster regional 402 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,600 collaboration in developing sustainable supply water supplies with the city of Dallas and 403 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,400 Upper Trinity Regional Water District, we're also looking at fostering collaborative working 404 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:56,640 relationships with those partner cities, Crumb, Sanger, Corinth, Argyle, and Lake Cities as 405 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,640 well. 406 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,480 I believe that's pretty much it from the water perspective, and I'll turn it over to Danielle 407 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,480 for the financials. 408 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,360 I just want to make one quick comment on Stephen's. 409 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:14,960 In initiative three, this does say Ponder, we don't have a partnership with Ponder, so 410 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,800 just wanted to make that clear that there is a mistake in your presentation. 411 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Okay, so for water financials, the same growth percentage as the other utilities, also the 412 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,720 same expense projections, increase in personnel services for comp and class, merit increases 413 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:40,040 and inflation costs, as well as the 2% increase in maintenance and operations. 414 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,960 There are no rate increases contemplated for FY 2024. 415 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:56,400 As you can see here, we are expected to come in under budget on revenue, as well as expenditures 416 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 for the current fiscal year. 417 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:07,200 Again, that's in personnel services, the expenditure is, it includes the year, includes the full 418 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,960 compensation and classification study, we're not implementing that until later this year, 419 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:19,480 so we do have a savings, so to speak there, that is, and then the revenue funded capital 420 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,040 is expected to be about $7 million less, so those two items make up the large portion 421 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:30,480 of the decrease in expenses for the current fiscal year. 422 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:37,760 For FY 2024, we're using more impact fees, as you can see in the revenue, we're bringing 423 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,640 in $11.6 million, which is $5 million more than we did last year. 424 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,600 You can see in the expenses that we're also expending that, those impact fees and impact 425 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:56,480 fee revenue funding, and that makes up for some of the difference in the higher expenses 426 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,720 in FY 2024. 427 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,880 So you'll see that personnel services decrease, that's due to some positions going to the 428 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Environmental Services and Sustainability Fund, and also some of those expenses moved over 429 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,560 there with those, so that's why there's a decrease in operating expenditures as well. 430 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,480 Same for transfers, so moving those positions had a big change to the water fund because 431 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,400 that's where a lot of this came from. 432 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,120 And then we are meeting all of our target reserves, we're contemplating a rate increase 433 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:39,320 beginning in FY 2025 with a 7%, 8% in '26, 9% in '27, and 3% in 2028. 434 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,760 That does keep us within our target reserves as well as meet the debt service coverage 435 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,880 ratio requirement. 436 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Is there a reason why you're not contemplating a rate increase this year to kind of flatten 437 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,880 the, so it's not such a large increase in the next three years? 438 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200 We could, we could look at that scenario. 439 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,880 We're trying to keep the rate increases to a minimum, and we know that there's possibly 440 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,240 going to be a rate increase in solid waste depending on the cost of service study, and 441 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,720 the same for DME. 442 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,400 So we're just trying to keep the rate increases to a minimum. 443 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,120 And you'll likely see, wastewater is not being presented today, but you'll likely see a rate 444 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:21,000 increase on the wastewater side, so trying to just do what we can to keep the rates overall 445 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000 at a minimum. 446 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000 All right. 447 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Thank you. 448 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000 All right. 449 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 That's fine. 450 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Any other questions on the pro forma before we move on? 451 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Okay, so the water capital plan contemplates about $97 million for FY 2024. 452 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,160 You can see the largest drivers there are the plant improvements and the replacement 453 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,160 lines. 454 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Of that $96.5 million, $82.7 million is bond funded. 455 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,040 About $8 million is revenue funded, $5 million is impact fee funded, and then $810,000 is 456 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,880 the vehicle replacement funds, and we'll get you a list of what that includes. 457 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:09,360 And then for '25 and '26, you can see that we've increased the use of impact fees. 458 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,760 That was also reflected in the pro forma, to help with that $118 million in the CIP. 459 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Over the five years, we have a total of $377 million across the five years in this water 460 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,880 CIP. 461 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Some of their key projects and ... Oh, go ahead. 462 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760 I missed what you said about impact fees. 463 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Sure, no problem. 464 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,000 So if we come back to the pro forma, you can see that we've used about $6.6 million up 465 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,120 to this point in 2024, we're starting to increase the use of impact fee funding, so we're increasing 466 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:51,280 it by $5 million in '24, by $20 million in '25, and $10 million in 2026, so we're just 467 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:57,880 trying to bring that balance down and actually use what we have available to help offset 468 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,800 those rate increases in some of that capital debt service. 469 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,800 And so that's impact fees that have been collected over the past ... 470 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:13,240 Correct, that's ... Yeah, I was like, that is a whole lot of residential lots going in 471 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,240 in 2025. 472 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Yes, sir. 473 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,240 That's a good clarification. 474 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,240 Yes, sir. 475 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,240 Thank you. 476 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:25,300 That is funds we have existing in the fund that we're just using at this point. 477 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:30,680 Some of the large capital improvement projects are the AMI/AMR replacements, though that's 478 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680 going to occur in '24 and '25. 479 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,780 The Lake Louisville plant raw water transmission line for $7.5 million, that's scheduled to 480 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:42,380 happen in FY 2024. 481 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:47,840 The Ray Roberts plant expansion and the capacity re-rate and performance upgrades, those are 482 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,840 very large amounts. 483 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:56,120 You can see these totals are across the five-year CIP, those are not only 2024 totals. 484 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,800 And then finally the supplement to the bond 2019 for $27 million for a total of $235.9 485 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,520 million over the five years for the key projects. 486 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Water has no baseline adjustments requests, a handful of supplemental requests, as Stephen's 487 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,440 already touched on. 488 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:24,920 He's requesting a project manager, an inspector, and four technicians, and then the merit increase 489 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,960 and a vehicle and truck. 490 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:38,840 The total supplemental request is $1.1 million for FY 2024. 491 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,580 Any questions on supplementals? 492 00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:41,580 Sure. 493 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:47,480 So the new positions get a truck, and then there's just adding another truck, too, just 494 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,760 so I understand that. 495 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Correct? 496 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,760 We are adding a truck. 497 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,000 I'll have to look and tell you what that is for specifically, but you are correct. 498 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,240 It is not added. 499 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,000 It is not related to an FTE. 500 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Okay. 501 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Thank you. 502 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Sure. 503 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:11,560 When city people have trucks or cars or things, so many of them don't live in Denton. 504 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Do they take their cars home at night? 505 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,200 I don't believe so. 506 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,480 I believe the only time that they take a vehicle home is if they're on call, but I will get 507 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,360 you a firm answer on that. 508 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Stephen's coming up. 509 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Oh, okay. 510 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,040 I definitely understand police taking their -- that's a service. 511 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,040 Danielle is correct on that. 512 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,640 They don't take the vehicles home, only if they're on call, and then there's also -- the 513 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,480 employee is charged a fringe benefit fee on their pay because it's considered a fringe 514 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,760 benefit when they take a vehicle home. 515 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Okay. 516 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Thank you. 517 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,760 IRS rules. 518 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Appreciate that. 519 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Any other questions on the supplementals? 520 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,280 Thank you. 521 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,280 You're welcome. 522 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Okay. 523 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,400 So for rate changes, we're requesting that two rates be removed, the Dino dirt overs 524 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:10,240 for $3 a cubic yard and the Dino Deco colored mulch for $30 a cubic yard. 525 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,720 What is an over? 526 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,000 That's a great question. 527 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:21,280 You're getting your steps in today. 528 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,960 It's essentially some excess. 529 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600 So if we have excess materials, we sell it as an overage. 530 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Excuse me. 531 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,600 I can't hear you. 532 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,600 I'm sorry. 533 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,680 It's essentially an excess. 534 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,000 So when we have excess materials, it's an overage, and we sell it at a reduced price. 535 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Okay. 536 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Those are just -- 537 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Going away. 538 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Going away. 539 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Yes, sir. 540 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Well, I think she's not wrong. 541 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Yeah. 542 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Well, just jumping into rates again, you're waiting on the rate study, obviously, right? 543 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120 We do not have a rate study for water going on. 544 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,120 Okay. 545 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,600 So what about the -- I'm going to miss the impact fees was going to be my question. 546 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Do you see those increasing? 547 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,080 We are under the -- so can you hear me? 548 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Yeah. 549 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,600 We're currently looking at our impact fees, but we're going to align our impact fee study 550 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,200 with the roadway impact fee study, because there's some special considerations with the 551 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,160 Hunter coal development, and so we just want to make sure that we're both -- both of those 552 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120 studies are in lockstep with one another. 553 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,120 I understand. 554 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,360 The big developments, you're going to go in and make a deal, right? 555 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Yes, sir. 556 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,360 Yeah. 557 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120 I mean, that's -- it is electric, water, silver, everything, but, like, just -- there's going 558 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,240 to be a standard impact fee for a guy buying four lots or something, right? 559 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:36,240 Yes, there will be. 560 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,080 It will continue to be that way. 561 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,760 Do you see that increasing as well? 562 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,800 I do see it increasing slightly. 563 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,800 Okay. 564 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Yeah. 565 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,800 How's this going on? 566 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,800 That's probably your concern too. 567 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Yeah. 568 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Okay. 569 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,800 Thank you. 570 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:57,920 So the next slide -- the final slide is just the next steps, same as solid waste. 571 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,920 Okay. 572 00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Any final questions? 573 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:00,920 Okay. 574 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,920 Any final questions? 575 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,920 No? 576 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Thank you. 577 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Okay. 578 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,920 Thank y'all. 579 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,920 All right. 580 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,920 It is 935. 581 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Do you -- motion to adjourn, Billy? 582 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,920 I'd like to make a motion to adjourn. 583 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Okay. 584 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,920 You're adjourned. 585 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Thank you. 586 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,600 [end of transcript]