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 Good evening, it's 6 o'clock and we have a quorum present so we'll call the Monday, January

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 28, 2019 public utility board meeting to order.

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 Our first item of the regular meeting is the consent agenda and we just have one item under

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 the consent agenda and does anybody want to have it pulled for any additional information

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 or questions for staff?

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 Hearing any, does anybody would like to make a motion so we can move forward?

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 I recommend approval.

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 We have a motion for approval, do we have a second for approval?

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 Second.

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 We have a motion and a second.

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 Any discussion regarding this item?

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 Hearing no discussion.

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 Anybody in favor of this item?

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 Say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Those opposed, nay.

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 The motion passes.

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 The next item are items for individual consideration.

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 The first item is the approval of the public utility board meetings from the last meeting

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 from January 14th.

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 They've been distributed in advance, does any member have any amendments or additions

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 or edits they'd like made to the public utility board meeting minutes?

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 Hearing none, I guess we'll accept those as approved, as written, distributed.

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 Item B under items for individual consideration is to consider recommending adoption of an

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 ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas authorizing the expenditure of funds for the payment of

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 wholesale transmission charges and the total amount of $4,655,183.48 to Cross Transmission

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 LLC.

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 I guess it's broken up here, there are multiple awards.

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 One is in the value of $269,987.38 and to Electric Transmission Texas LLC in the amount

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 of $1,103,574.81.

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 Another one to Lone Star Transmission LLC for $333,779.25.

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 Another award for the Lower Colorado River Authority of $1,597,852.36.

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 Another award to Shailen Utilities LP $943,784.53 and another award for Wind Energy Transmission

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 Texas LLC for $406,205.15 and providing an effective date.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Good evening Chair and board members.

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 As was indicated here tonight to get approval to pay six invoices that we've gotten for

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 transmission service.

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 I want to give you a little bit of background.

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 So in Texas, all of the entities that own transmission are entitled to recover a portion

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 of their cost for that transmission based on what the formula says other utilities use

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 of their transmission.

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 So that would include also us.

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 So for instance, we have transmission, the state analyzes the grid.

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 They use what's called down here the four CP method, the four coincident peaks between

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 June and September to allocate the statewide pod of transmission costs.

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 So we throw our costs in a pod as does every other entity in Texas that has transmission

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 and those are allocated out kind of peanut buttered or postage stamped out to all of

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 the users of transmission those who sell energy to customers pay now a piece of those costs

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 and you know it's regulated with the Texas administrative code and there's a public utility

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 regulatory act also that kind of governs this.

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 So we're required to pay those entities that we owe on a net bill basis and what I mean

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 by a net bill, so we both pay for and use transmission service and we also get compensated

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 for ours as I mentioned earlier.

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 So when we look at those two numbers, whichever one of us, either DME or the other transmission

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 provider has the largest amount of money due actually issues the bill.

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 So there's just one bill issued instead of two, it's called a net bill.

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 So what we have before you today are the net bills that we received that are more than

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 what we normally have authority to pay.

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 So these are more than $50,000 and this is the list of those that were read a little

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 bit earlier.

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 So these are the six entities in the state that we owe more than $50,000 to on a net

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 bill basis and there will be 11 other entities that will pay their bills because they're

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 less than $50,000.

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 We don't need to come to the PUB and the council for authorization.

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 Now, the flip side of that is we also issue some net bills and we actually issue a lot

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 more than we get.

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 So here's some of the bills that we'll be issuing to these entities, you've heard of

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 some of those, CenterPoint, they're the big distribution company in the Houston area,

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 Encore has a lot of the distribution here in the Dallas area and some of the others.

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 So this is what we're owed.

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 There's actually 79 total entities that owe us, I just put the large ones here, more than

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 $250,000, but you can see that's a lot of money.

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 So we'll be sending bills out, at the same time, we're paying that $4,600,000 plus these

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 11 other smaller ones, we'll be getting in some money from these other entities.

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 So that's kind of nice.

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 And so, didn't want to belabor that, but open to questions about T-costs, I think over the

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 years T-costs has been a little bit misunderstood, but it's fairly straightforward.

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 It's just allowing those that build transmission, invest money, get paid by other parties that

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 actually use that because electrons are laws of physics, speed of light, they travel across

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 the entire network.

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 You can't just say, okay, you're going to travel down this road and no place else.

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 They actually impact all of the transmission.

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 That's why this thing all gets pooled and peanut buttered across all the users.

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 So I'm asking for the PUB to recommend approval of an ordinance to make those six payments.

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 >> Anybody have any questions?

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 Do we receive these bills essentially from these entities and we pay them, or do we negotiate

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 values or costs every time that it's time to pay them?

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 >> No, the amounts that we pay are very set forth and established in a big table that's

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 done once per year by the Public Utility Commission.

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 So the commission aggregates all the costs for transmission in the state.

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 They do the allocation amongst all the entities and then they tell the party who needs the

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 Senate bill, you send the bill.

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 So it's really very structured.

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 There was even a period, I think maybe even before this, where we didn't really come for

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 authorization to pay because it is mandated regulatorily.

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 We just thought for optics and transparency may be good to bring this forward, going forward

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 to show everybody what's going on with these T-costs.

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 >> Thank you.

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 Do we have a motion for approval?

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 Do we have a motion for approval?

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 All those in favor of approval, say aye.

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 >> Thank you very much.

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 >> I'm going to recuse myself on this item.

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 Item C, it involves something where Billy's company, the Jago Public Works, had made a

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 bid on it, so he's asking to excuse himself, and there he is excused.

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 So item C is consider recommending adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, the

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 Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the city manager to execute a public works

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 contract with Quality Excavation Limited for the construction of the Hinkel and Windsor

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 Paving and Drainage Project for the City of Denton, providing for the expenditures of

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 fund therefore and providing an effective date.

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 >> Good evening.

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 >> Good evening.

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 >> I'm Michael Smith.

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 I must apologize.

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 I thought the slideshow was going to be put up here, so I know you all have copies of

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 it there in front of you, right?

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 >> To the right there, there you go.

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 This is the Hinkel and Windsor Paving and Drainage Project.

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 This is also known as Magnolia Phase 2.

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 Magnolia Phase 1 was completed a couple of years ago.

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 The majority of this project is going to be paid for out of bonds that were issued.

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 This is, you can see the extents of the project.

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 It runs along Hinkel and then across Windsor.

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 The roads are going to be fully replaced.

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 They're being paid for out of the 2012 bonds that were issued.

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 The drainage portion runs from roughly this place on Windsor.

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 There's an outfall from a pond that was built as Magnolia Phase 1, and then it's going to

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 come down Windsor, down Hinkel, and then it will discharge into the channel down here.

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 There's a sanitary sewer component of this.

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 The sanitary sewer department wanted to go ahead and abandon an existing line that is

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 The existing line is older and it's very small, and this portion of it will basically take

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 all the sanitary water from the streets that are coming into it and tie it into the new

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 This portion that's different, that's for public utility board to evaluate it.

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 We're going to replace curb and gutters, sidewalks that are damaged and deteriorated.

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 There's a base bid, and then there was an alternate bid.

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 The base bid replaced the alternate bid, which was an open channel, concrete channel.

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 The new one is going to be box culverts, and the main reason that we're switching to box

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 culverts or recommending that we go with box culverts is that they're faster to construct,

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 it's safer, more aesthetically pleasing, there's reduced maintenance, and there's less utility

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 conflicts with that.

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 These were the bid results that came in.

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 Quality excavation was the low bidder, and they are approximately a million dollars less

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 than the engineer's estimate, both for the base bid and the alternate bid.

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 So we're looking for a recommendation to move forward on this project.

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 Any questions?

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 Are the box culverts, are those covered with grass, or is that part of the sidewalk?

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 I mean, is it cement topped or grass topped?

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 They will be, it's actually both.

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 They're going to sit partially underneath the sidewalks, but they're also going to be

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 underneath a green space, so they'll be buried and then covered with grass.

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 Are there any new sidewalks being included, or is it just sidewalks being fixed that are

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 Principally, sidewalks that are being fixed.

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 There are a few places right in front of Good Samaritan that we need to do some new sidewalks

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 because we're reorienting the alignment.

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 So there'll be new sidewalks there, but no other additional new sidewalks.

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 What is the walkability of Hinkle?

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 Can you get all the way down to North Lakes Park?

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 On the west side, you can.

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 On the east side, it's not a contiguous sidewalk.

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 There's two travel lanes in each direction, and then there's a buffer and bike lanes

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 in both directions as well.

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 Is this going to be tied into all that construction on Windsor on the west side?

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 Fireside is the development that's going in there, and they'll tie into our new storm

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 drain system and the sanitary sewer system, and then they will provide the sidewalks in

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 front of their frontage.

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 Any additional questions?

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 So when he stepped out, we lost our quorum.

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 Does that matter?

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 You're still point.

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 So do we have a motion to recommend approval?

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 Okay, our last item, there's a few items under the ACM update.

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 Mr. Vice Chair and members of the board, a few items here to provide you in this report

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 we've got a dashboard on the Dent Energy Center.

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 If you have any questions, we've got George Morrow here along with folks from Finance,

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 Tony Fuente, or David Gaines.

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 We'll be happy to answer any questions you may have on that.

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 And so, I mean, I have other things to say, but in regards to the other item, but just

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 Can somebody just speak to the dashboard itself and just kind of give us a quick overview

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 of how to read it and what the things mean, please?

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 George Morrow, General Manager of DME.

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 Also introduced, Jason Brown, he's the Debt Plant Manager.

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 He's here in case we get into a deep dive on this stuff, and he's done a great job.

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 So the Dent Energy Center's been officially operating July 11th of last summer.

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 It ran well, basically, since that time, ran a lot in July and August.

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 It continued operating beyond that time.

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 And also, we moved into a little bit more of a maintenance mode during that period.

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 So what this is intended to do is we wanted to make a relatively straightforward, simple

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 streamlined document that could let folks look at a snapshot to see some of the key

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 parameters associated with the deck.

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 This is for the first quarter of 2018, and we look at updating this periodically, probably

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 every quarter.

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 So at the top left, you see kind of how the units ran during those four periods.

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 It says gen set 1 through 12, so there's 12 units out there.

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 Operated a total of 466 hours during that three-month period, made a certain number

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 of hot starts, warm starts, cold starts.

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 We monitor the six different emissions items.

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 And so we provided those to you for information for a typical month, which would have been

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 December.

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 So you can see our emissions through December.

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 There's actually more information available from time to time.

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 We provide typically a monthly report with more detail on emissions in the Friday report

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 to the City Council and to the PUB, so you guys read that every so often, you'll get

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 If we move down to the below where we talked about the end of the starts, you've got some

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 how many megawatt hours was generated.

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 That's how we keep track of the production.

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 So you see October 18, if we move to the right, revenue of $2 million, 23,521 megawatt hours.

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 And I can tell you those numbers are substantially more than the variable cost.

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 So there was anything above the number that I have in my head that I typically don't share

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 publicly is a contribution to our fixed expenses.

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 So there's a significant contribution to our fixed expenses in that dollar per megawatt

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 And all of that is developed below.

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 You see some expense categories for the deck.

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 repair, operations.

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 We've got a relatively nominal principle level and interest this year that will increase

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 on the year after.

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 So you see a net income down below, actual for last fiscal year, 8.44 million.

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 That's the amount of revenue over and above cost. 19, you can see that the budget was

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 8 million.

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 So we'll kind of watch that during the year and see how we do on a net basis.

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 I think those are the things I would highlight for the, and if there's other items over time

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 that you want to hear about with the deck, perhaps periodically we can just come by and

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 give you some discussion about how it's doing.

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 But it's done very well and I think it's a project at this point that the community can

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 be proud of if it was built on time and it runs well.

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 >> We expect to get one of these every quarter now.

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 >> That would be our intent.

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 All right.

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 Thank you.

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 The next one, Mr. Vice Chair, is a request was made over the last number of months ago

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 to give the PUB a report on our bond program and CIP.

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 And so what we included in your packet was a memorandum along with a lot of reports.

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 However, there was one thing that was not included in your packet, and I have actually

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 a copy of it.

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 I'd like to distribute it to the board, to you all, so you can have a copy of what should

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 have been also included in your packet.

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 And the report that I'm handing out, excuse me, is something that our finance staff produces,

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 I believe on a quarterly basis, to our bond oversight committee, and it gives basically

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 a summary of all the various items that have been in past bond programs, kind of where

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 they are in their status.

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 And so, again, since we've never, as far as I know, have never provided information like

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 this to the board, we basically are giving you everything tonight to understand kind

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 of what your wishes are and how you would like to receive this information.

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 And again, this information, the memo that I'm handing out to you, is information that's

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 already produced and presented to our bond oversight committee, the bond oversight committee.

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 Believe they meet in February, so they meet next month.

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 And so if this is information that you'd like to see on a frequent basis, it's already

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 being produced for another committee.

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 We could very easily also present this to the board at the meeting following the bond

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 oversight committee, and it's an easy presentation that staff can make and possibly provide feedback

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 to you all based on what the committee at the time gave us.

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 So just kind of wanted to see what your wishes are.

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 The information in your packet is pretty detailed, a lot of numbers.

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 Just trying to give you basically everything in the kitchen sink, per se, and then try

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 to pair back as far as what information you'd like to see.

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 But the very last page of the packet I handed out, also with the very last page of in your

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 packet, as far as your online packet, basically gives a summary of all the items that were

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 in each proposition of the most recent bond programs and gives you the original bond cost,

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 any project costs that have been revised, the funding levels, what's been spent and

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 what's left remaining for the program to be completed.

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 So again, the bond oversight committee gets this information as well.

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 So again, just to provide this information to you, and I apologize for not having this

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 memo in the packet on Friday, but I wanted you to have it tonight and just see what your

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 wishes are.

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 Do they discuss the anticipated completion of the projects?

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 I see how far they are along as far as dollar amount and things like that, but do they discuss

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 how the project's going as far as completing on time or extensions of time?

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 Typically what's been happening, and again, we can also provide that, is usually when

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 we have these meetings with the bond oversight committee, it's all hands on deck.

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 So just about every department represented with these bond programs are present.

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 So a lot of times it's verbal updates just because there's a lot to cover and this is

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 not inundate the committee with too much information, but yet try to be there on hand to answer

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 any specific questions that at the time the committee may have, if that's something that

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 you all would like to have, we can certainly as we schedule these have the respective departments

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 available to answer specific questions on timing or if there's something that you specifically

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 wanted to get answers on, we'd be happy to modify the report or include that as part

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 of the backup.

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 So just whatever your pleasure is, we're just trying to gauge what all you want because

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 it's a lot of work and a lot of information to provide and not to bog you down with too

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 much information, but give you the things that you need to be able to yourselves keep

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 informed and also inform the public as well.

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 Thank you.

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 I don't know about the rest of you, but at this point I can't say what else I would want.

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 The 31 page tiny font thing I still have to kind of get through.

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 Because this was not included in your packet, what we'll do is work with Ken to make sure

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 that it's included in the next PED packet so it's available to the public.

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 And if you would like to have this item on your next agenda, just to cover it again,

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 just so you can have an opportunity to kind of read through and digest it, we'd be happy

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 to do that.

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 Why don't we do that?

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 Just as a follow up?

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 Yeah, so that if anybody has any questions they can bring it up and we can kind of refine

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 it because obviously we don't really need to hear about the public art bond project really

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 unless it has something to do with something that comes under our purview.

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 So we can include this again as an item next week, excuse me, next month and get your direction

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 from there.

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 Just wanted to provide you with this information.

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 Yeah, no thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 The last thing on there is an informal staff report on the new streets, on the dumpster,

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 blocking the sidewalks, we're reading through that and Ms. Devaney had requested that a

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 number of weeks ago.

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 Also was requested by a couple of our council members and so Ethan Cox with Solid Waste

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 had provided an informal staff report to the council on what our plans are and so I believe

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 we've given notice to those customers that have dumpsters located blocking the sidewalks

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 so we've given them some notice, given them the opportunity to move or adjust their size

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 of container and I believe we have until March to make that happen and so we'll be working

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 with them and get compliance so that we can keep our sidewalks clear.

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 So what is the stick attached to asking for compliance?

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 Mr. Cox?

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 Yes.

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 Is this like a class C misdemeanor?

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 No, essentially working with legal, we have the authority and the ordinance as service

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 provider that says we will determine the location where we're going to set that container so

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 if you wish to receive service, that's the condition that we're providing the service

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 with and so I think what we found, we're actually down until about 11 locations right now out

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 of the 31 so we've actually made significant progress over a number of years trying to

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 get to this point and so I think we're down to like the last 11 and they may be kind of

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 challenging but they do have incentive to comply and we are going to offer a number

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 of options for them so we can kind of find a solution that fits their needs.

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 The problem in the older part of town is just there's no place else to put the dumpsters

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 without eating into their parking or?

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 There's going to be some trade-offs there, some challenges and I think what we found

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 some success with for commercial properties is going to commercial car service.

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 Doesn't work necessarily for a food-oriented business because the level of service may

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 not be such that it addresses their frequency of collection but we are going to be flexible

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 on that and if we run into any roadblocks we're going to do our best to kind of get

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 creative with some of those businesses.

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 And the last two things are just your future agenda items and like I said we'll bring

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 back this information for next month to have on your early PV meeting in the morning.

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 There's a few other items coming up in February as well and the new business matrix I believe

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 a lot of these things will be coming off based on the reporting that was made today.

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 Like I said we'll carry one forward for next month and then some things that we'll have

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 ongoing as far as the DME, the energy center performance report along with the bond programs

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 will have that on a continual rotation on a quarterly basis so those will be ongoing.

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 So with any other, unless you have any other questions I have nothing else to report.

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 Any additional questions? Okay concluding items under section 551.042 of the Texas Open

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 Meetings Act respond to inquiries from the public utilities board or the public with

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 specific factual information or recitation of policy or accepted proposal to place the

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 matter on the agenda for an upcoming meeting.

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 So if anybody would like to add anything to the business matrix or present anything for

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 a future agenda item how would be the time to do it?

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 Doesn't look like any.

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 Can we get a motion to adjourn this meeting?

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 Second.

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 Those in favor of adjourning and we're done.