1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,240 >> Okay, it is 9 o'clock and we have a quorum so a call to order the public utilities board 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,560 for the City of Denton on Monday, June 12, 2023. 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,800 Our first item is presentations for members of the public. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Is anyone from the public wishing to present? 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,380 I see none. 6 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:24,360 So we'll move on to the consent agenda. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Does any board member wish to pull any items from A through F? 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,920 >> A. >> A. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Any others? 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,080 I see none. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Do we have a motion to approve items B through F? 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,520 Thank you and a second? 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,320 >> Second. 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,000 >> There'll be seconds. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,520 All in favor say aye. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Aye. 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Opposed? 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Item A. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,520 >> Good morning members of the PUB. 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Randy Key, Denton Municipal Electric, electric engineering supervisor. 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,440 I'll gladly take any questions. 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,040 >> It was just a big number. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,720 >> It was a big increase. 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,640 >> Yes, sir. 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:15,920 >> Really wasn't a presentation on how we got there, it was just a lot of statutes quoted. 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,960 So it gets a little confusing. 27 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,320 How did we get there? 28 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:27,880 >> So we were in talks with a lot of other electric utilities. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,080 And we heard that wood poles were becoming an issue. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:39,720 We decided to put in a bulk order as the lead times went from 14 weeks to six months. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,480 We put in the PO. 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,140 Stella Jones came back and said that they couldn't fulfill 33 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:48,080 because we haven't done any price increases. 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,080 So they sent over the price increase and it was an 85% addition. 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,960 >> Okay. Was that already in the contract to have increases in price? 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,880 >> Yes, sir. 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,120 >> And it's only due to an extension of the realization of when we can get them. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Is that correct? 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,520 >> Yes, sir. 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,680 >> Okay. 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:16,960 So is this going to -- this could possibly change as well, right? 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 With the current atmosphere of -- 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,400 >> I see it increasing even more, yes, sir. 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 >> Okay. All right. 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,160 >> Yeah. I mean, I'll just mention to tag -- 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,960 tag a little bit on what Randy is saying. 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,840 This is another supply chain issue, frankly, but this one is very unique because this one has 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,800 to do with the creosote that's used to cover the poles. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,800 There's some issues going on with that. 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,480 It's also limiting the supply. 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:50,880 And so in addition to adding these dollars, we're also looking to other opportunities 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,840 like utilizing other steel structures when it comes to our distribution system. 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,360 But again, that's part of the normal operational decisions that we make. 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Obviously, we don't have a whole lot of steel poles out there for distribution, 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,960 but in the event that we need to, if there is a shortage, if we can't get these orders in, 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,600 we'll definitely do that as well. 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,600 But it's certainly just another supply chain issue that we're seeing along with transformers 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,240 and switch gear and a number of other pieces of equipment out there. 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,640 >> Okay. 60 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,640 >> Have you looked at concrete poles? 61 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:27,400 >> Yes, ma'am. 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,000 We have. 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,720 We have some on the system currently, but we're not fully set up for concrete poles as we are, 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:42,840 as for our steel and wood is easier for construction. 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:49,200 >> Okay. This item will be-- I will bring back up in relation to an item 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:56,160 on individual consideration, so I appreciate you letting us know about that. 67 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,680 I'll go ahead and move approval. 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:57,960 >> Yes, sir. 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Thank you. 70 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,800 >> I second. 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,560 >> Thank you, Berber. 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,960 All in favor, say aye. 73 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,320 >> Aye. 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,080 >> Aye. 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760 >> Opposed? Carries. 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Next item is approval of the May 22nd, 2023 minutes. 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Do we have any changes or corrections? 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Seeing none, do we have a motion to approve? 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,040 >> Approve. 80 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,600 >> Berber's motioning and a second? 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,600 >> Second. 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,240 >> The second. 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,640 All in favor, say aye. 84 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,960 >> Aye. 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,080 >> Motion carries. 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Item B, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the city of Denton 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:37,280 to execute a contract with Mountain Cascade of Texas, LLC. 88 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:37,960 >> Good morning. 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,880 I'm Cole Tankersley. 90 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:47,280 I'm a capital projects project manager, and I'll be presenting the I-35 project today. 91 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:55,160 This is a-- this project is in support of TxDOT's relocation, widening of the freeways, 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,880 and we'll be moving the utilities in support of that. 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,520 It's a pretty large project. 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,680 It starts south near US 380, and it'll go all the way up to the Milam Road. 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,560 And it's a mix of wastewater and water with around 30,000 linear feet 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,480 of water relocation and wastewater. 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,280 And as I mentioned before, this is a TxDOT reimbursable project, 98 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:27,000 so we'll be getting 100% reimbursed. 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,760 We had three companies that bid, Mountain Cascade was the one that came in at the lowest, 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,560 that's over-- just over 16 million. 101 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,880 The other two were around 22 million. 102 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,960 And this is a pre-qualified list, so all three companies are more than capable 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,840 of completing this project. 104 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:51,240 And this is an invitation for bids, so we just went with the lowest of those three. 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:57,400 The public utility board's today, council will be on the 27th, and we'll give a notice 106 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:03,040 to proceed immediately following that so that they can start ordering material 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,840 and begin construction. 108 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:10,920 And the project's estimated to be about 300 days in construction. 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,840 There's some time limits to meet TxDOT's requirements 110 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:18,440 so that they can begin their work. 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,840 The total amount was 16,200,000. 112 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:32,560 The contingency is 5% for just over 800,000 for a total not to exceed of 17,000,000.1. 113 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Do you have any questions? 114 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,600 >> I do. Can we go back to the code page or the-- 115 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,760 >> Which page? 116 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,520 >> The tab with the three bids? 117 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,120 >> Yes, ma'am. 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 >> Are you-- I always get concerned when there's that big of a spread 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,120 between the low bidder and the next two? 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,920 >> Yes, I figured you have that question. 121 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,680 There's a couple of reasons. 122 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,640 One, Mountain Cascade is already doing this type of project for us right now. 123 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,920 So their ability to mobilize is cheaper. 124 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,000 They're already doing it. 125 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,560 They already have the teams created. 126 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,280 They're just going to add additional people. 127 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:07,560 So they were able to be a little bit lower for those reasons. 128 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,400 In addition, they had two choices. 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:19,440 They could use ductile iron pipe or HDPE which is like a polymer high density polyurethane pipe. 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,000 With that, they chose the HDPE which is cheaper. 131 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:31,320 In addition, they have Mountain Cascade purchased a machine that fuses it. 132 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,200 So they don't have to subcontract that out. 133 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,320 And they were able to come in much lower than the other two because I think they had 134 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,440 that capability in addition to their already mobilized. 135 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,160 >> Okay. 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,320 >> So because I mean that's the first thing we saw too. 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,560 It was like what's going on here? 138 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,880 >> How many change orders are we going to have? 139 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,760 >> And I will say that they're doing the exact same work right now in a different section 140 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,520 and they're doing a great job, so. 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,320 >> Which section are you referring to? 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 >> It's called the Mayhill Project. 143 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,680 So you'll see them out here. 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,520 I think they're by BJ's right now. 145 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 And what's that? 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,880 James Wood. 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,040 So if you're driving on the I-35, you see that pipe. 148 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,840 That's them doing that project right now. 149 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,480 >> Yeah. So your prequalification requirements, 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,120 were they TxDOT approved prequalification requirements? 151 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,840 >> Yes, sir. 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:24,840 >> Okay. Why did you decide to go with just the IFB on this one rather than you've had a history 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,160 of going with best value bits? 154 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,440 >> It's required, sir. 155 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 It's required to be IFB for TxDOT reimbursement. 156 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,360 >> Right. 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,920 >> So because it's the funding style from either state or federal funding. 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,040 But to make it a better situation, we went with a prequalified list to make sure 159 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,720 that the lowest bid is capable of doing the work. 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,200 >> Excuse me. 161 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,520 >> Yeah. 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,920 >> Yeah. So what we've done on these I-35 projects, 163 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:54,040 so when there's federal money that's involved, we're required to do IFB. 164 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,040 What we were finding were that you're kind of limited. 165 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,800 You know, you have to go with that low bid when you let everybody bid on it. 166 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,560 So what we were able to work out with TxDOT was to be able to create this prequalified list 167 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,800 and prequal-- I mean, look at all these firms, their qualifications, 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,120 all those types of things, and pre-approve them. 169 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 And then once we go out or once we determine we're ready for a project, 170 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,200 we can just release the project to these prequalified firms that we've already approved, 171 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,520 already reviewed their qualifications, and then we go with low bid based on those three. 172 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:33,560 >> Is there a certain percentage that TxDOT funded projects require for you to go 173 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:40,000 to the prequalification way instead of the best value bid you've been going with? 174 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,080 >> As far as I'm aware, if there's TxDOT money involved, we have to do low bid. 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,240 It doesn't matter what the cost is. 176 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 >> I'd audit that if I was you. 177 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,280 >> Okay. 178 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,720 >> Going backwards. 179 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,520 >> Yeah. I understand. 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,400 There's always, you know, we prefer to do the competitive seal proposal or the CMAR 181 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,600 that gives us more control over the type of contractors we get in, the qualifications. 182 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,160 But there's always a cost to getting free money or money from TxDOT and those types of things. 183 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,840 So we've worked with TxDOT to figure out a way that we can try to work in some 184 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,480 of those qualifications and things, and we're not just getting some random contractor, 185 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,520 you know, off the street that isn't really qualified to do this type of work. 186 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:29,480 >> I prefer that way of work myself, but I'm a former contractor, so I guess it was a month ago. 187 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,840 >> Yeah. 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,720 >> Okay. That's all I got. 189 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,200 >> Thank you. 190 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,480 >> Any questions? 191 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,000 All right. 192 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Do we have a motion to approve? 193 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,480 >> Move approval. 194 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,040 >> Thank you, Billy. 195 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,720 And a second? 196 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,200 >> Second. 197 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:43,960 >> For a second. 198 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,400 All in favor say aye. 199 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,160 >> Aye. 200 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,840 >> Motion carries. 201 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,200 Management reports. 202 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:57,800 >> Madam Chair, so members of the POB, we've provided to you a memo from Solid Waste. 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,800 Certainly if you have questions regarding a grant that they've applied 204 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,520 for to address the Styrofoam problem at the landfill. 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Certainly if there's questions you have on that. 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:13,640 And then on the future agenda, I think I've said at every meeting, budget, budget, budget, right? 207 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Make sure your calendars are up to date. 208 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,600 You know, we're going to fill your time here with a lot of budgets between now 209 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,800 and the end of July. 210 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,760 And then finally on the new business action matrix, we've completed the first one 211 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,040 on there which is the debt load trends. 212 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,080 I did move the Winter Storm URI update to July 10th. 213 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,120 We've had a couple of things that come up and so I could not get to that. 214 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,200 But I'll commit to get to you by the 10th of July. 215 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,120 So with that, the other couple of items that weren't on here that I'll just mention. 216 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:51,560 One, if your term is expiring, please make sure if you're interested in being renominated 217 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:57,000 that you submit your documentation to Jesse Salazar, the city secretary's office. 218 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,440 If you have questions, please direct them to him or Kim can help you with that as well. 219 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,680 And then I think Billy wanted to give just a quick update on TNPA. 220 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,560 >> Okay, we're going to do that here? 221 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,000 >> We can do that here if you want to. 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,280 >> Okay, if you haven't heard, our general manager, 223 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:16,680 I think Bob Kahn has been the general manager for TNPA for about eight years now. 224 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:18,160 I think that's about right. 225 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:24,720 And he came in and Bob's really great, very qualified and very open and honest 226 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:31,160 and direct with the board and he went from having 190 employees shutting the plant 227 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,040 down and having six I think is what we have. 228 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,840 He did a great job with the legal, with the sale, with the plant sale, 229 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:45,760 with the, you know, he's an attorney but he's a guy that grew up in the electrical business. 230 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,400 He has decided to resign. 231 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,400 He's not retiring. 232 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Although he said he was probably going to retire at TNPA, it's been announced, Tony. 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Tony, sorry, I'm going to tell you, he's the director of Austin Energy. 234 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,240 >> Right, general manager. 235 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:06,080 >> General manager he is, which is going to be going from your, you know, your feet into the fire. 236 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,840 So God bless him on that and good luck to him. 237 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Hate to lose him but we're getting at a point where we don't necessarily need 238 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:21,000 that qualified of a person honestly, I hate to say that but we're going to talk Friday. 239 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,720 I'm going to go to Brian with the other members and board members only. 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:33,880 It's not really required for PNO to be there and talk to two candidates for interim. 241 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,000 They wanted us, several of the board members wanted us to just decide the permanent one then 242 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,840 and I did not want to do that and so we're not going to do that. 243 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:50,840 On Friday, like I said, we'll interview those two candidates and then move on from there. 244 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,360 >> Madam Chair, that's all we have. 245 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,040 Certainly if there's any questions, happy to address them now. 246 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,800 >> It doesn't look like they're on. 247 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,680 All right, that brings us to concluding items. 248 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,840 Does any board member wish to have a future item put on an agenda 249 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,560 or comments to be made to the public? 250 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,080 I see none. 251 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,360 So we'll move into work session. 252 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,720 We're going to do it a little bit different. 253 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,280 We're going to do the customer service, environmental services and sustainability. 254 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Then we'll go into closed session and we'll come back and do the electric. 255 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:34,080 >> Good morning, PUB, Danielle Stanford, budget manager. 256 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,920 So as Susan mentioned, we're going to do customer service, environmental services 257 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 and sustainability and then electric. 258 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,280 We are going to have a hybrid approach for each presentation. 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:49,680 So the manager or director of each utility is going to cover the first portion 260 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 of the presentation and then I'll cover the financials. 261 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,240 So first we'll begin with Krista Foster, the customer service manager, 262 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,120 and I'll turn it over to you, Krista. 263 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,240 >> Thank you, Danielle. 264 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Madam Chair, board members, Krista Foster, customer service manager. 265 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Let me go ahead and get this brought up. 266 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,680 And I will get us moving into the customer service budget starting with our metrics. 267 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,880 So what I've done is I've given you kind of our trend over the last four years 268 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:24,080 for our total number of accounts, our call volumes, the average time it's taking 269 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,800 for a representative to resolve a call, as well as the number 270 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 of bills that we're producing annually. 271 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,280 There have been increases in all four categories. 272 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Certainly the sharpest increases that you'll note are both with our call volumes 273 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,360 and with our average call time. 274 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,640 That seems to be attributed to a lot of the financial and economic stresses 275 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,520 that our customers are experiencing throughout the pandemic and now post-pandemic. 276 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,160 We've also moved to a lot of self-service tools. 277 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:58,320 We've introduced eight new self-service forms on our website over the past 12 months. 278 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,000 So as we continue to take out some of those simpler calls, that again leads 279 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,960 to a longer call time as the things that people are getting 280 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,240 in for actually require resolution with a representative. 281 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,360 So if you look, the first thing we found is that it's helpful each year to remind everyone 282 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,280 that as we go into budget discussions, especially as it relates to utilities, 283 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,480 customer service has been moved as an internal service fund. 284 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,680 But we have no kind of operating reserve required for us. 285 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,960 And we allocate our expenses based on the usage 286 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,400 by the different utilities and the divisions that we serve. 287 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,120 We have a total of 56 and a half headcount that is broken down 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,400 into three major operating categories within our division. 289 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,640 The first is our contact center, our collections and revenue division, 290 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 as well as our utility billing areas. 291 00:16:53,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Our FTE summary is we are preliminarily set for 62.5 FTE in the coming budget year. 292 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,760 We do have six FTE in supplemental requests 293 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,800 which we'll discuss more thoroughly as we move forward. 294 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:15,480 But that does include one frontline customer service rep, two customer service trainers, 295 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:21,200 and then some increases in support staff that have to support those frontline reps 296 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,840 with one senior customer service rep which functions as a team lead, 297 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,920 one supervisor and one cash operations specialist. 298 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,760 So in our strategic initiatives, our first initiative actually was finalized last week 299 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,200 and that is our phone system redesign. 300 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,960 We had a number of problematic call routing issues that were determined 301 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:53,960 with the old scripting methods even after we transitioned to the upgraded phone system. 302 00:17:53,960 --> 00:18:00,440 Those original programs were copied into the new system so the problems were not resolved. 303 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,720 So what we've done is we've redone all of those call scripting methods. 304 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,160 We've rewritten our interactive voice response which is 305 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,440 that automated menu you hear when you first call in. 306 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,360 We've simplified that to make it easier to get to a representative. 307 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:19,600 We have added some extra latent features that allow us to better mobilize in the event 308 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,280 of an emergency and provide greater amounts of information to the public. 309 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,840 That did go live as of Thursday night last week and we operated with the new structure 310 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,120 on Friday with very few issues. 311 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,960 The second initiative is our Silver Blaze utility portal. 312 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,200 That project has been postponed slightly throughout time just because of some upgrades 313 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 that have needed to be done to our billing system. 314 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,640 That billing system upgrade is now in final stages of testing so we're hoping that we'll be able 315 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,960 to move forward with that throughout the rest of this year. 316 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,640 And our third initiative is our customer relationship management software 317 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,400 and our call center consolidation. 318 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Frequently you'll hear us refer to that as 311. 319 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,880 I'm stepping back from calling it 311 and going for call center consolidation 320 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,800 since at initial onset we will not be utilizing the 311 designation. 321 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,400 We don't want that to create confusion possibly for our public 322 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,280 to where they may think they can just pick up the phone and make that dial with 311. 323 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,000 So as we look at moving into the customer relationship management software this is going 324 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,080 to allow us to integrate with all of the major departmental work order systems, 325 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,120 increase the amount of true self-service and give customers one point of contact 326 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,200 to reach a representative who can take care of their issue. 327 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,920 They can take care of multiple issues for multiple departments with one contact to one person. 328 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,320 So we also have a new mobile application that will replace Engage Denton as well 329 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,680 as a more robust service request area on our website. 330 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,200 This is expected with the first phase of launch to happen in November of this year 331 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 and then we'll be phasing throughout the next year. 332 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,200 And then I will turn it back over to Danielle for financials. 333 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:19,160 >> Okay. So as Krista mentioned the customer service fund is fully funded 334 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,040 by other departments, the departments that they serve. 335 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,240 So on the pro forma here you see that their sources 336 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:31,520 of revenue are mostly other city departments, the largest contributor being DME. 337 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:39,800 So our budget from the current fiscal year to FY24 has increased significantly as you see there 338 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,520 by about 1.3 million, the largest driver of that is the call volume. 339 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,600 So we allocate three different ways, one of those ways being the number of calls 340 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,720 that customer service takes for each entity that they serve. 341 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,560 DME is their largest customer and their call volume did increase by about 8% from 23 to 24. 342 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,840 These are of course estimated numbers at the end of each fiscal year. 343 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,000 We do a cost allocation true up so if we've, you know, 344 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,120 budgeted slightly off we do true that up at the end of each year. 345 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:21,800 Water, wastewater stay right on track with what they're budgeted, same for solid waste. 346 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:28,160 Airport fleet and engineering have increased slightly, 347 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,720 same thing that the customer service department is expanding their services 348 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,200 for those entities so their allocation reflects that. 349 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Moving down into personnel services for expenses, that 24 number includes all 350 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,200 of the requests that Krista has identified. 351 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,520 So the bottom line, the 9.7 includes, is a fully loaded budget, it includes all 352 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,360 of the baseline and supplemental requests that she's requested. 353 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,600 If we do not approve those of course that bottom line would decrease 354 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,720 and the allocations would decrease accordingly as well. 355 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Change requests, they have two baseline adjustment requests. 356 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:19,760 The first is their increase credit card processing fees, we are seeing that this is going 357 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,280 to be an issue even in the current year so we've just gone ahead and asked 358 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,920 that that be increased for the upcoming fiscal year. 359 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,080 And then the increase for the utility assistance program by about $50,000. 360 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,440 So a total based on adjustment request of 750,000. 361 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,920 In the right hand column you'll see that we've added that funding source this year. 362 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,680 This is what the budget team has proposed, the manner 363 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,360 which we proposed that that's going to be funded. 364 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:51,640 So here we're just adding it to their operating fund. 365 00:22:51,640 --> 00:23:01,480 >> Is that 700 grand, where is that in your income statement over here? 366 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,360 >> It's in the operations line. 367 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:10,600 >> Okay. So that's coming from credit card processing fees 368 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,640 when customers pay their utility bills, right? 369 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,280 >> That's correct. 370 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,360 >> And that's the cost that the city's paying on behalf of the customers. 371 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,200 Why don't we pass that through on to the customers? 372 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Not that I'm advocating for that, but I mean it's not unusual when you pay for a bill 373 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,520 with a credit card that that fee's passed back on to the person paying, 374 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,400 not the business that's paying that. 375 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,840 >> Especially the government entity. 376 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,720 >> Right. Yeah. 377 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,760 >> Krista Foster, customer service manager. 378 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,520 I had the pleasure of having to greatly look into that as my very first opportunity 379 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,240 to come before the board and council in 2019. 380 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,120 So credit card bylaws are very specific. 381 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,400 There are a couple of reasons. 382 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Bottom line first and foremost, 383 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 city council made the decision they wanted no pass 384 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,400 through fees to our residential customers. 385 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,520 However, at that time, and we would have to review them again later 386 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,360 if that was the direction we were given, the bylaws indicated 387 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:13,600 that if we charge a pass through fee or a transactional fee to a commercial, 388 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720 we must do that to a residential. 389 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,320 It could not be a varied fee. 390 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,680 It has to be a fixed rate fee. 391 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,000 And if we at that time had accepted passing on a fee, it prevented us 392 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,120 from accepting any recurring forms of payments through our website. 393 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:35,320 So there were a lot of additional costs that it would create for us in our business. 394 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:42,360 At that time, the operational costs for that were running about $25,000 to $30,000 a month, 395 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,920 and now they're running close to $90,000 to $100,000 a month. 396 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120 So that's why you're seeing this type of increase. 397 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,760 >> Is that due to the volume of people who are using credit cards? 398 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,800 >> It is due to the volume. 399 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,200 We are seeing increased volumes. 400 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Again, I think a portion of that is due to some of the economic hardships 401 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,240 and then people more are lending toward putting their bills on credit. 402 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,880 But I certainly can't say that that would be all of it. 403 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,600 >> Yeah, I just come from working in the financial industry, 404 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,160 and I know those interchange fees are pretty costly. 405 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,840 >> Yes. 406 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,000 >> Rewards cards and American Express, and it's a little bit unsettling as a taxpayer 407 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,760 that I'm paying 3 to 5 percent interchange fees on behalf of someone-- 408 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,880 >> I was going to say our interchange rate has been running about 1 percent to 1.1 percent, 409 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,440 somewhere in that range, and we do not accept American Express. 410 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,360 >> Okay. 411 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,960 >> I'm assuming because of the interchange fees. 412 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Thank you so much. 413 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,880 Any other questions? 414 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:47,120 >> You said that if you require commercial to pay it, then you also have to require residential? 415 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,600 >> Yeah, we cannot differentiate. 416 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,960 >> You can't-- same thing goes for the opposite, is that correct? 417 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,760 >> For what? 418 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 >> If you require residential to pay it, you also have to require commercial to pay it. 419 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,320 >> Correct. 420 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:06,200 >> Okay. Because that operational increase was more than-- I mean, the $700,000 was in both of them, 421 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:12,520 I'm sure, but it was more of an increase in your operations. 422 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:19,040 I'm not really clear on why that is because if you didn't-- 423 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,680 [ Inaudible Remark ] 424 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,880 >> So you got operations at-- 425 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280 >> But the baseline of judgment is down below. 426 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,920 >> Decrease, but let's see. 427 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:36,000 >> Well, our operations budget has stayed flat from '23 to '24, and then the $750,000 you see 428 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,800 in the baseline adjustment second row from the bottom, that's because we don't assume 429 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,520 that those are approved and it's easily removed 430 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560 from the baseline adjustment versus in the budget. 431 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960 >> The baseline adjustment, you're-- I'm sorry, I was-- 432 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,400 >> That's okay. 433 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,520 >> -- looking while you were-- 434 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:51,840 >> That's okay. 435 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,680 >> -- answering. 436 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,520 The $750,000 is the credit card fees are in there? 437 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,000 >> It is. 438 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,760 It's in the-- the $750,000 is the $700,000 for the credit card processing fees 439 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,240 and the utility assistance program. 440 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,280 >> Okay. It's not in the operations line, it's in the-- 441 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,400 >> Correct, but if it were approved, then it would be in the operations line. 442 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,320 >> Okay. Wow. 443 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:19,800 >> Can you remind me how much do we have now going towards the utility assistance? 444 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,480 I know that we increased it. 445 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,080 >> We did. 446 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,760 We increased by, I believe, $25,000 last year. 447 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:33,380 We are currently budgeted at $175,000 per year to assist. 448 00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:39,320 What we have found is we have had to increase the amount given again this year. 449 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Interfaith would have been running out of funds about the middle of this month at the $175,000 mark. 450 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:53,480 And we have seen a dramatic change in the reasons that customers are denied. 451 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,440 So, in the past, 20% of our customers roughly were denied 452 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,320 because they never completed their documentation. 453 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,760 They never fulfilled all of the obligations. 454 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,240 At this point, we're now seeing 15%, 20% of the people being denied 455 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440 because they've already received maximum assistance. 456 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:18,320 So, there has been a significant change in the needs within that fund. 457 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,960 >> So, if it's over 25 this month, where are you going to be in September? 458 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,120 >> We've already made-- we've already made sure to increase our funding for this year based 459 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:34,800 on the contractual add that was made in December of last year. 460 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,320 So, we can make it through the summer. 461 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,320 We may run out of funding toward the very end of September. 462 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,680 >> Are we going to make it through the summer? 463 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,320 >> We're hoping that we can make it through the summer. 464 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Of course, it will all depend on what, you know, is brought forward. 465 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,680 But they should have funding to make it through the majority of the summer. 466 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,040 >> Thank you. 467 00:28:53,040 --> 00:29:00,680 >> Just a couple more points on the pro forma. 468 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:08,280 The personnel services for FY 24 does include the comp and class implementation plus 3%. 469 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,040 Same thing for the out years-- I'm sorry. 470 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:18,560 FY 24 includes comp and class with-- so, we have the 3% built in and then the difference 471 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:25,800 of what was needed on top of that 3% and then a 3% inflation in the out years. 472 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,280 O&M has a 2% inflation in the out years. 473 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,240 And those are really the largest changes to the expenses. 474 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:39,520 And then that brings us to our supplemental request. 475 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520 As Krista touched on, it is-- oops, I'm sorry. 476 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,400 In large part, 6 FTEs and then the top request is the merit increase. 477 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,960 So, we're not only implementing comp and class in the current fiscal year, 478 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,200 we're also proposing a merit increase in the upcoming fiscal year. 479 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,760 And all of these will be funded in the operating budget and then allocated back out to departments. 480 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:12,560 And then Krista's going to go over the supporting documentation for each supplemental request. 481 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,040 >> All right. 482 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Thank you for letting me speak again. 483 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,520 So, the first thing I wanted to do is just summarize how call consolidation is going 484 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480 to change our services as that is coming up this year. 485 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:31,560 So, currently, we support the main number for City Hall, solid waste, utility billing, and dino dirt. 486 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,680 So, as we move into consolidation and we phase through by this time next summer, 487 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,680 we will also support community improvement services, parks maintenance, public works, 488 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,120 water distribution, water meter shop, waste water, 489 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,720 and absorb the after hours emergency support that's currently at DME. 490 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:57,600 And when we're looking at water meter shop, waste water, we currently support their utility billing functions 491 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880 and the things that are related to that. 492 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,160 This will now be supporting those infrastructure type calls. 493 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,120 So, if there's a water main break, a sewer backup, those types of things. 494 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,440 General services that we provide today are the things that you would expect with a utility, 495 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,960 starting and stopping services, referrals for assistance, referrals to non-city services. 496 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:24,320 Things that we will be adding are emergency service orders and dispatches for our infrastructure divisions. 497 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,040 We will be doing regular infrastructure work orders for streets and sidewalks, 498 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,360 traffic control, water infrastructure, water metering, and waste water infrastructure. 499 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Additionally, we'll be taking code violations as well as some of those parks maintenance types of issues. 500 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,960 You know that we did add some staff in preparation for 311. 501 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:50,760 We did bring those staff on in March of last year so that they could be fully versed in the utility billing section of that, 502 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,840 as all the contact center agents will be generalists. 503 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,680 So, if they pick up the phone and it's a waste water call for infrastructure, 504 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:05,000 or they pick up the phone and it's a call about the bill, that one representative can handle both issues. 505 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:13,080 What we have found is with the call volumes that we have experienced over the last few years that you saw in my summary, 506 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,560 that staff has been absorbed into what was necessary just for us to try to maintain normal operation. 507 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Our supplemental requests include some frontline staff because our business need has outpaced our increases in that area, 508 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,400 and we need to prepare for the increased consolidated call volumes. 509 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:43,320 We also have some requests for support staff because at this point, the pre-planned workload for our team leads and supervisors, 510 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,680 meaning just the things that must happen that they know have to happen before they walk in the door, 511 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,880 range from 9 to 11 hours of commitment daily, and they don't have that. 512 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,440 So, it doesn't allow any opportunity for unplanned activities. 513 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:07,400 And if you have ever been in a contact center at all familiar with, unplanned activity is a huge portion of what we do. 514 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,440 So, that's part of the reason we have requests. We've also requested two trainers. 515 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:23,800 We found that over the last fiscal year, we had to pull two of our frontline representatives to assist with training classes just to try to stay on top of keeping staffing there. 516 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:32,440 Customer service is an entry position within the city. People a lot of times will promote either within our division or into other roles within the city. 517 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:40,440 We're happy to see them grow and to thrive, but we also have that revolving door and the need for being able to train them. 518 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:50,280 We're also being required to, through our tech services model, to look for having a subject matter expert on hand who can really deal with the telephone system, 519 00:33:50,280 --> 00:34:04,760 the troubleshooting and liaison with them for solutions on the phone system, as well as the systems we utilize that are integrated with that phone system, such as our workforce management and our quality assurance programs. 520 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:17,720 So, we're going to look just a little bit at the metrics of what's going on in the contact center specifically, and the projections for next year include anticipation of a 3-1-1 volume. 521 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:27,640 So, what you're going to see is our four-year change for our total calls handled is a 33.23 percent change. 522 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:35,000 You'll notice that the dark area is the calls we were actually able to answer versus, I'm sorry, that was our calls offered. 523 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:42,520 The light area is the number of calls that ultimately had to give up. They couldn't get through. They hung up. 524 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:56,320 We couldn't get to them for whatever reason, and those are our abandons. So, you'll see that, you know, our staffing and ability to handle those calls has stayed roughly the same as our average call times have gone up slightly. 525 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:06,640 Even though we've added a couple of staff members with that increased time that it's taking to work with people, it's not helping us to overcome the volumes that were being presented. 526 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:19,680 And as you look into moving to 2024, we anticipate a reduced average handle time because as we bring in some of those infrastructure calls, they don't take as long as billing and utility calls. 527 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:32,000 But even with that reduction, it's not going to get us the amount of staffing that we need to really adequately handle the volume and the request. 528 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:49,720 Peak wait times, and this makes me very sad and uncomfortable, but our peak wait times, if you'll see, we've gone up to a 45 minute average wait during the peak wait times in 2022. 529 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:59,560 We were at a 35 minute or so average wait through our peak wait times from 1130 in the morning until two o'clock in the afternoon when people are at lunches. 530 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,840 And that is a 462 percent increase over the last four years. 531 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:12,280 Don't you have the opportunity for them to leave their number and you can call them back? 532 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,760 We do. We do. 533 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:22,440 But it still leaves us with the waits because they're still technically part of those wait times. 534 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,920 And how long did they have to wait to be able to get us to take care of them? 535 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:35,720 And if we're taking care of you in the order in which you called, the customer who's on the phone actually holding is still having to wait through that time. 536 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:43,760 Certainly, we encourage people to use the callback system because at least that way you're not waiting with the music in your ear for an hour. 537 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:52,920 Right. But it's very important to note that if we have an average wait of 35 minutes during that peak, 538 00:36:52,920 --> 00:37:00,480 that means that the peak wait time may be in excess of an hour or an hour and 10 minutes 539 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,880 because 35 minute average assumes that some of them are getting in more quickly than others. 540 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,760 And it's just something that I have to give folks lunches, I have to give them breaks. 541 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,880 And they just happen to coincide with the same types of times that people also are taking lunches and breaks. 542 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,040 So that's what's happened with those. 543 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,640 And this is looking at our percentage of callers who have to wait longer than one minute. 544 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,640 Our goal is to answer callers in a minute or less of hold, at least 75 percent of them. 545 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:39,080 And what you'll see is pre-pandemic, we were going into that very easily, handling that. 546 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,280 What you'll see now is 60 percent of our customers are waiting for longer than a minute. 547 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:52,240 So unless you're calling like right at the start of the day or right at the end of the day, you're probably going to be experiencing a wait time. 548 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,520 And this is concerning for us as we move into the consolidated call center, 549 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:07,360 because we don't want people with some form of an emergency to have to wait for an extended period of time. 550 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:15,160 And then that will be all of mine. Give it back to you. 551 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:21,560 So for next steps, we'll be back with you all next or the next meeting for any changes between today's budget. 552 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,640 And in that meeting, we'll be back with you on the 18th for a rates work session. 553 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:34,360 Customer service doesn't have rates, so well, not rates that will be discussed here. 554 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,440 And then we'll have budget approvals on July 24th. 555 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,280 And then that doesn't make sense. Oh, that's for city council. I'm sorry. 556 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,320 Like, wait, we don't have to do that. So then we'll start our council meetings in July. 557 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,520 Do you have any further questions for customer service? 558 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,840 Thank you. Thank you. 559 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:16,680 OK, so next, we'll move into environmental services and sustainability. 560 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:23,080 Good morning, board members, Michael Gagne, director of environmental services and sustainability. 561 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,640 Starting off our metrics, a lot of these are changing per year. 562 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:34,360 But one of the things we work heavily with the solid waste and recycling is to do a lot of community outreach on recycling education. 563 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,640 That's one of our key goals is to reach at least 10 percent of our customers every year. 564 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:47,440 That's the top one on there. Our energy rebates are trailing a little bit this year that's somewhat driven off demand. 565 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,160 And the amount of the rebate is a little lower right now compared to what the costs are. 566 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,960 So I think we're having less traction. We're looking at those rebate structures to improve that for next year. 567 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,320 Then you move into a lot of our stormwater related efforts, as well as our industrial pretreatment program. 568 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:12,680 That's IPP. Those are things we're doing on behalf of both drainage, the entire city, as well as water utilities. 569 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840 And you move down into gas well inspections. That's a variable number. 570 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,680 But our goal is to touch every gas well site twice per fiscal year. 571 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,120 So we try to get out there every twice. That includes our E.T.J. as well. 572 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:32,920 Then you move down into some of our laboratory and things like that, where our goal is to provide services both for water and wastewater. 573 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,440 So we do a lot of samples per year to meet our compliance requirements. 574 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,240 They're sure it's a little bit slightly higher because we've actually had to do some replicates and different things. 575 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,880 That number is slightly higher. The base minimum is our goal. 576 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:53,040 And the last part of that is our environmentally sensitive areas metrics or ESA, as it's known here. 577 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,720 Then we move into our simply sustainable framework. 578 00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:00,120 One of our goals as a city is to reduce our electric consumption. 579 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,400 This slide does not show that it actually shows it went up. 580 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:09,920 That's directly related to the last year we had one of the highest demands on potable water we've seen in years. 581 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:18,480 And 70 to 75 percent of the electric consumption for city facilities is driven by our water and wastewater plants. 582 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,080 So that number is directly related to that. 583 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:28,360 So when you see DWU come before you and show different things on their metrics and how much water was provided and treated last year, that's what drove that up. 584 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,640 That metrics a soft metric. It's a five percent goal to reduce annually. 585 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,800 So in other words, five percent below what we did in 2019. 586 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,800 It's not weather normalized. It doesn't account for growth. 587 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,880 It's just a base thing that was set by state law. That's one of our goals. 588 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,000 The right side shows our natural gas consumption, which is just key to note as well there. 589 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:54,360 Our trend is basically going down with the one anomaly during covid year of 2020. 590 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,000 Our department structure, we're basically 39 strong. 591 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,040 We cover sustainability efforts, which touch on a lot of different things. 592 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:12,600 And then we have our gas well inspections program, our industrial pretreatment, landfill, municipal lab, watershed protection, and then a small admin group that supports all of that. 593 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,800 So if you look at that as a breakdown, the admin is new. We've shifted around over the years. 594 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,760 We haven't been we were part of DWU's admin. We shifted over to sustainability. 595 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,160 We're trying to get that on the books correctly. 596 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,120 So it actually shows four because there's a proposal, a supplemental to add a position. 597 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:40,240 Sustainability is showing going down because, again, the director position and the assistant director position are moving out of sustainability and moving into admin, which makes more sense. 598 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:45,280 Water lab is water and wastewater labs shown as two different lines this year. 599 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:51,000 We're proposing to combine them into one. What will be the municipal lab has the bottom line on there. 600 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:58,560 So there's no increase in the number of staff. We're just combining that into one HBU or home business unit. 601 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:06,680 Gaswell State Flat landfill compliance shows up somewhat new. You may recall last year, we've always had landfill compliance with our reporting structure. 602 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:14,800 This year, we're specifically calling them out as an HBU to track all their costs and have that housed within environmental services sustainability. 603 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:21,760 So that's not a new ad. You'll see it on solid waste and recycling to show that they lose two positions and we gain two. 604 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,600 We didn't really gain them. They've always been part of us. They just weren't funded with us. 605 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:34,040 And then you'll see on watershed protection, that portion will stay directly on the drainage fund. 606 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:40,920 So we're asking for basically two and a half new positions this year. I'm going to start with the bottom one industrial pretreatment. 607 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:48,320 We have a FATS oil and greases program where we inspect grease traps, different things, all these pretreatment devices across the city. 608 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:54,000 We have to inspect those on a regular basis as well as every time a new certificate of occupancy is issued. 609 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,840 So we've been making do with one and a half full time staff and subsidizing with the supervisor. 610 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:06,520 That area has gone from basically 300 to 600 actively inspected grease traps over the last 10 years. 611 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,680 So it's time to take the half time position and make it be a full time position. 612 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:19,320 Then within admin, you might be surprised, but out of our almost 40 staff, we have no one person helping out all city departments for environmental compliance, 613 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,680 whether that be has waste, asbestos, due diligence, all the general aspects which aren't part of their day to day business. 614 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,880 Not how do you actually provide fresh water or potable water? How do you provide electricity? 615 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,680 But once you're doing that, what do you do with the bulbs you've created out of your building? 616 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,840 What do you do with that leftover waste? How do you do that correctly? So we're asking for a position to do that. 617 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:48,080 The top one under sustainability, we actually want to step up and put our best foot forward and add a position solely dedicated to water conservation. 618 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,840 We haven't had that. It's kind of been done on all different pieces. 619 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,760 It's time to step up. That aligns well with what DWU is doing on their long range planning. 620 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,720 It's time to have it. We'll work hand in hand with them. We're missing that opportunity. 621 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:05,120 So that's what we're asking for. Our strategic initiatives, I'm aligning here. 622 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,320 These are all things that we're working on that were council priorities. 623 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,360 So create a wildlife corridor map as part of the comp 2040 plan. 624 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,200 It's an ongoing process. We're working with different community members, different things to make that happen. 625 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:24,640 I should hopefully have a draft map back in front of council towards the end of the summer, probably August, September. 626 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:31,120 We're heavily involved with our climate action and adaptation plan. It's on track. However, it's a little delayed. 627 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,200 We were hoping to have it the first part of June. Right now, it looks like we'll probably complete that process sometime in August. 628 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:43,720 We've had a couple of delays on getting responses, getting things prepared and ensuring and outlining all of our targets and actions 629 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:49,680 that make sense for the city of Denton specifically, not to be generic and be like everybody else. 630 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,000 The last one on there is to expand our electric fleet and infrastructure. 631 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,360 So we're looking at EV charging, EV usage across all of Denton. 632 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:04,280 So we're not mandating EVs at this point, but we're looking at how can you charge them if you have them at your home or you have them at your business? 633 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:10,480 Where does that need to be? How do we get that equably across Denton? We're also looking at EV charging for the fleet. 634 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:18,320 How do we actually increase the number of EV vehicles we have and make use of those appropriately and right size our fleet? 635 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,240 So with that, I'll turn it over to Danielle unless you have any questions for me right now. 636 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:29,760 OK, thank you. 637 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,920 Right. Moving into financials for environmental services and sustainability. 638 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,600 This is a new fund, so we don't have the out years quite yet. 639 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:46,480 But the revenue there, you can see they have cost allocations, transfers in from DME water, 640 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:53,560 wastewater, drainage and solid waste, and then a small number of transfers in for twenty twenty four. 641 00:46:53,560 --> 00:47:01,680 They also have the revenue from the water lab, pretreatment revenue and gas well inspection revenue for personal effort. 642 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,680 Sorry for expenses. We have the increase in personal services. 643 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:11,120 That's the three percent from the twenty three budget plus the cost of comp and class. 644 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,520 And then we have an average of two percent increase in operations. 645 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:23,200 And then the same as you saw with customer service, we have a supplemental line and there's supplemental requests total five forty one three ninety six, 646 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,480 which we'll get into on the next slides. 647 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:42,320 Oh, sorry. Sorry. I was just curious. I'm noticing that some of the fees increase just, I guess, as the number of. 648 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:53,880 Customers or whatever like that need to be inspected, go up, but the water lab has a flat rate from twenty twenty three. 649 00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:05,240 I was wondering if there are they're doing the same number of inspections and then follow up question after that. 650 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,120 Michael Gagne, again, director for vital services, sustainability. 651 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,560 The water lab line is actually for the analysis we perform for outside customers. 652 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,520 So the number of samples coming in is staying the same and our internal costs at this point are projected to be the same. 653 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,560 That's why that line stays flat. 654 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:25,240 And is that I notice that it says coliform specifically, is that the only outside analysis we perform primarily? 655 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,200 Yes, there's a few others we do. Those are getting directly charged back. 656 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:34,120 If we do it, this is one one line that gets called out separately every year to make sure we're clear for that. 657 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,200 It includes both private and other city customers. 658 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,640 So we have various city municipalities that come to us for that analysis. 659 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,560 We have to do it for private water wells. 660 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,840 And I see that as a you know, there are a lot of small and growing communities in the area. 661 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:54,080 And like I said, water well testing, things like that, it seems like this is an opportunity for for the water lab to bring in external revenue. 662 00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,640 I know it's you probably are cost competitive with commercial labs because they have a lot of different overhead. 663 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,840 So I just see that as perhaps an opportunity to grow a little. 664 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,840 You're not going to fund the department on it necessarily. 665 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:16,800 But to provide a service to Sanger Crum, the the groundwater district, that sort of thing. 666 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,400 Thank you. I think he's still on. 667 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,440 If it's if it's on this. I'm sorry. 668 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,800 Do you have a question? Yeah, I do. Just go ahead. 669 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,200 General fund clarification and revenues. 670 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,120 Oh, that is for her. OK. Well, I'll start with her. 671 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:49,800 OK, so that's a cost allocation to the to I'm sorry for the services that environmental services and sustainability provides to general fund. 672 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:56,360 OK, so it's for the thing. The other things that are funded under general fund that you guys work on and it gets transferred. 673 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,280 OK, and you don't you don't have a franchise fee. Is that correct? 674 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,320 We do not have a franchise fee for environmental services and sustainability. 675 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:15,760 OK. And the operations line, it's going up from the twenty twenty three estimate to preliminary by about two hundred thousand. 676 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600 So great question. There's a lot of departments. 677 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:26,280 So if you come back to their as Michael discussed on the FTE slide, there are some departments that are moving into this fund specifically. 678 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,920 So we have some expenses that move with those as well. 679 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,000 OK. All right. That makes sense. Thank you. 680 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:39,800 Sure. Any other questions before we move on? 681 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,280 So Michael has no baseline adjustment requests. 682 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,800 We do have some supplemental requests. The top one is that two percent merit increase. 683 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,800 We have the former police department gun range environmental assessment. 684 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:01,760 We are we the budget team is proposing that that be funded in the current year versus in twenty four. 685 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,680 The same for this as best as assessment for city facilities. 686 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,280 We're also proposing that that be funded in the current year. 687 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,640 And then the next three lines are those positions that Michael touched on a little bit earlier. 688 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,720 And then finally, a compliance tracking software for fourteen thousand four hundred dollars. 689 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:26,040 So the total one time cost is two hundred and fourteen thousand four hundred of that. 690 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,960 We're proposing two hundred thousand be funded in the current fiscal year. 691 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,720 The recurring costs are all personnel related with the addition of the two and a half percent. 692 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:41,240 And then the merit increase and then the total requests three hundred and forty one thousand three hundred ninety six. 693 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:45,920 Two and a half of two and a half new FTE Barbara has a question. 694 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:53,960 Sure. Did you entertain like the asbestos assessment of contract having contract on that? 695 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,960 Because I'm wondering how many do you have enough to keep it busy? 696 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:08,400 And in times past, we have just contracted things like that rather than provide a full employment package for someone. 697 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,280 Yes, ma'am. Michael Gagne again. 698 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,880 And as you may notice, it's a one time cost. 699 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480 There are no full time positions associated with that. 700 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,400 We do have a third party consultant that will perform that work for us. 701 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,120 I am also personally licensed to do it if I need to on behalf of the city. 702 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360 But that is a third party contract. 703 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:31,840 It's just to get the funds to get us caught up because the bulk of our facilities don't have a current assessment on them 704 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,280 to ensure that we can do normal routine maintenance and other things on that. 705 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,840 It's a good planning practice to make sure we have that. 706 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:51,200 Thank you. And the same next steps as customer service with that. 707 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,080 We'll take any additional questions. Any other questions? No. 708 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,760 OK. Thank you. So all right. 709 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:07,640 Let me read. OK. 710 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,400 The Public Utilities Board will now at nine fifty three a.m. 711 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,520 convene in a closed meeting to deliberate the closed meeting item set forth on the agenda, 712 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:23,120 which include the following a I.D.P.B. twenty three one hundred and eleven deliberations 713 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:31,480 regarding certain public power utilities, competitive matters under Texas Government Code Section five five one point zero eight six. 714 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:43,720 Consultation with attorneys under Texas Government Code Section five five one point zero seven one. 715 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:49,240 OK. The Public Utilities Board has now at ten thirty seven a.m. 716 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:53,960 reconvened from the closed session and no official action was taken. 717 00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:13,080 Now we'll go into the electric utility budget. 718 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:20,760 So we'll start off with some metrics, probably the most important one. 719 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,040 Is how do we compare to other utilities? 720 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:30,440 And as you can see, we are very close to lowest cost electric utility amongst all the 721 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:44,120 municipalities that we compare ourselves to. We do know that San Antonio, for example, is got a pending rate increase, so we should be with our recommendation 722 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,120 that you'll see later. No rate increase in fiscal year twenty four. 723 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:56,120 We'll remain one of the lowest cost providers in Texas. 724 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:05,840 And then, as you know, we are one hundred percent renewable and we always look at what our renewable costs are, our costs relative to other one hundred percent renewable 725 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:13,920 providers. In this case, those are reps, retail energy providers in the in the competitive area. 726 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:24,040 And as you can see, we're we're the lowest cost of any one hundred percent renewable option in Texas. 727 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,240 The other metric that we we track is our reliability metrics. 728 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:37,200 How how reliable are we? And there's two metrics that we really focus on, and that's system average interruption frequency or safety. 729 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:45,920 And as you can see, we've been consistently since 2009 below the average for the industry. 730 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,120 And the same can be said for the system average interruption duration index. 731 00:55:51,120 --> 00:56:01,840 So we're very proud of those. We again this year were awarded by a award for reliability. 732 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,280 Our structure, we have basically six divisions. 733 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:12,440 We are adding we have added a few interesting positions or critical positions this year. 734 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:26,840 One, we added a Regulatory Affairs Administrator, someone that helps us with all of our matters in Austin before the legislature and before the P.U.C.T. 735 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,080 and ERCOT. As you know, we're a very highly regulated industry. 736 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:39,640 And so we added that position. We're also adding a public information officer that will help us to raise the visibility of D.M.E. 737 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,600 in the community and the programs that we offer for the benefit of our customers. 738 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,880 Total headcount is one hundred and eighty five employees. 739 00:56:49,880 --> 00:57:00,720 Here's our FTE summary and be glad to answer any questions you might have on that. 740 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:11,160 And our summary, the rest of the summary for a total of one hundred and eighty seven, we're asking for two additional positions this year from one hundred eighty five. 741 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:22,480 And I'll point out that we're still below our employment levels that we had in 2020 before the pandemic. 742 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:29,120 And the two positions where we're requesting one is an electric system operations outage coordinator. 743 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:40,520 As I mentioned, we are very highly regulated and we are seeing more and more requirements with penalties from ERCOT and from P.U.C.T. 744 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:50,880 And this is not only a regulatory benefit, but also a safety benefit for all of our employees that are out working on lines, making sure that communication is good. 745 00:57:50,880 --> 00:58:05,880 And we're working on de-energized and the the operators know the field staff know what lines are are engaged, operational with high voltage on them and which ones are not. 746 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,520 And then the other one is relay technician. We have keep adding substations. 747 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:18,440 We as you'll see in the capital budget, we're adding a number of automated metering applications. 748 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:27,200 And these require a lot of relay adjustments and relay settings and programming. 749 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:35,440 Our three strategic initiatives that will bring to your attention this year, one is to update the Denton Renewable Resource Plan. 750 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:45,160 The plan, which was adopted in 2007, 2017, is now getting a little dated. 751 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:59,520 And we've had significant changes in the market and the wholesale market that require us to relook at how we're going to continue to achieve the 100 percent renewable goal in a cost effective manner. 752 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:14,480 We continue to see high levels of rooftop solar penetration, and we want to take advantage of that as far as the community benefits that it provides in our 100 percent solar supply. 753 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:24,000 There are upcoming requirements for making sure that with this high level of renewables that we have in the state, 754 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:34,640 that we have adequate dispatchable generation to back them up in order to make sure that on days when the wind isn't blowing and a day like today where it's a little cloudy, 755 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:43,160 we don't have as much solar production that we have adequate resources to generate electricity to meet the needs of Texans. 756 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:54,440 So those are coming, and the plan will include options in the event that those dispatchable requirements become more burdensome. 757 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,560 And of course, we're always looking at costs. 758 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:05,560 And as those metrics I showed you initially, we're very sensitive to the costs, but we also want to make sure that we're achieving that 100 percent. 759 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:12,160 The second initiative is a new campus for the Denton Municipal Electric. 760 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,080 We've been growing. Our number of meter counts continues to go up. 761 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,720 Technology continues to move forward. 762 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:29,520 Our customers' expectations with regard to our integration of that technology and in providing service to them continues to move forward. 763 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:37,520 And we're at a point now where we've outgrown our existing structure, and we're looking. 764 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:47,400 So what we're going to be doing is we'll be doing a design and real estate acquisition in the next fiscal year and then begin construction, 765 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,200 which is a two year process in the subsequent two years. 766 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,200 Of course, that's subject to your approval and to City Council's approval. 767 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,840 And initiative three, we call utility of the future. 768 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:08,040 We will be adding significantly more automated distribution management system equipment. 769 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:21,040 That's a self-healing grid, if you will, to to increase our level of reliability for our customers for the high growth areas of our service territory, 770 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:40,560 which are out along 35E or 35W, the whole Hunter Cole Ranch area will be converting or will be installing that distribution system at a higher voltage than the existing 13 to KV system that we have around the rest of the city. 771 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:59,400 This enable us to meet the demands of those areas with EV, smart homes, all the other electrical demands that we're seeing on a much more cost effective basis because we can pack more power into a substation with this higher voltage. 772 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:12,680 That does require us to buy equipment for both the 13 to and the 25 KV systems, and that's part of the thing that's driving our need on the campus redevelopment. 773 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:18,480 We will be looking and in next fiscal year at the development of demand resource programs. 774 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:26,920 Demand resource programs will be programs where we'll incentivize customers to reduce their energy demand during peak periods. 775 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:39,960 Again, as the market becomes more and more dependent on renewables, especially solar, when the sun goes down, there's about a two to four hour period in which the market needs more resources, 776 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:47,600 and the cheapest resource is one is from is associated with a megawatt or a kilowatt hour that you never use. 777 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:54,520 And so we will be developing these programs over the next year or so. 778 01:02:54,520 --> 01:03:06,200 And we're also next year, we've actually started this year, but next year we'll be laying out a new work management system to increase the productivity of our workforce. 779 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:11,480 We are reengineering the way we do work at DME so that we can do more with less. 780 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:19,760 And that's important when we have a level of growth that we are seeing in our community now. 781 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:25,160 And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Danielle. 782 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:35,480 Going back to the grid of the future, utility of the future section there, you mentioned Hunter Cole will be built out at twenty five KV. 783 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:44,120 Is there a long term plan to convert the entire system of twenty five KV or will we have two separate zones? 784 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,080 There's a billion reasons. 785 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,960 So it's a great question and we are evaluating that. 786 01:03:50,960 --> 01:04:01,840 But the engineering evaluation of what the cost would be to go to twenty five KV throughout the system will take some time to develop and some money to do that analysis. 787 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,840 The analysis itself is several million dollars because it's a very complex system. 788 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:13,160 So the answer to your question is not immediately, maybe in the future, but that we many years down the road. 789 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:19,720 And that would because it would require every feeder gets every building, gets a new transformer, every substation feeder, gets a new transfer. 790 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:30,240 Every every transformer you see hanging on a pole today, every yard, every pad mount transformer would have to be basically replaced with a different voltage. 791 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:40,400 Thank you, which now with how long it takes you to actually if you can get the transformers, that's right. 792 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:53,760 Yeah, I think the other thing that I mentioned, the kind of response to that, Devin, is that I think I think there's probably some areas of our existing system that are probably OK at the 13 to that we probably don't need to change. 793 01:04:53,760 --> 01:05:08,120 But I think I think until we do this engineering analysis and we have not budgeted this for next year, but at some point we need to ask for those dollars, do that engineering analysis, kind of a longitudinal type of study and set the course. 794 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:15,040 But again, we just made, you know, half a billion dollars worth of investments in our system, right? 795 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,080 We need to let those depreciate a little bit more before we start converting things. 796 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:26,520 But I think I think certainly in the future, probably well beyond our lifetimes probably makes some sense to do. 797 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:34,440 And I think it's our goal to at least have that plan in place so that future folks can look at look at that in the future. 798 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,920 But probably not everything will be converted. 799 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,000 Yeah, it's expensive proposition. 800 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,720 It's a very expensive proposition. 801 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:53,760 And typically in cities, communities that have done it, it's done sequentially one area by another based on the substation that they're connected to. 802 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,560 So you have to you can't convert the system all at one time. 803 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:03,600 It would take many, many years to transition over in order to maintain that reliability that we're known for. 804 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,400 And we want to continue to have. 805 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,240 Yeah, the other just really quick, the other the other nugget that I'll kind of put out there. 806 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:16,800 You know, so so our our linemen, our operations folks have, you know, it's called fr rated uniforms. 807 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,240 Right. And those are rated to our current system. 808 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:25,760 Our our sister utility right next door to us co-serve doesn't have the same voltage. 809 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:32,160 So from from a mutual aid standpoint, they can come in and help us, but we can't help them. 810 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,440 Right. So it kind of makes it difficult to have that type of relationship with only it's only a one way relationship. 811 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:45,480 Right. And so I think that this is also going to help us with that and that we're going to have to relook at all our staff's uniforms, make sure they're at the higher voltage. 812 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:52,560 As a result of that, now we can expand the mutual aid type of support that we can give other utilities to the surrounding area. 813 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,280 But then they can also then reciprocate back to us as well. 814 01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,800 So in the event that there's an emergency and we need help, you know, co-serve as an example is right next door to us. 815 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:06,240 They could potentially help us. Now, if it's widespread, probably got to do a whole lot of good because they'll be impacted as well. 816 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,720 But again, just as we're evaluating, this is all coming really out of out of winter storm area, the things that we've seen over the last two winters and certainly a very hot summer last year. 817 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,840 How can we how can we shore up the resources that we have to better support our customers? 818 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:28,760 Yeah. And one thing I'll add to that is that that twenty five KV equipment is pretty universal across Texas and much of the United States. 819 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:39,680 So from mutual aid perspective and from an inventory perspective, if we were to hit it hit with a tornado or something that took out our system, 820 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:51,640 knowing that our neighbors and other utilities have the same size equipment that we could borrow and replace would get the lights back on quicker. 821 01:07:51,640 --> 01:08:08,360 And with 13 to KV, there's there's very few communities in the U.S. that have 13 to KV. So we don't get that diversity that that inventory diversity that we would get with a twenty five KV system. 822 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,360 Danielle. 823 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:25,160 So moving into the financial section, the assumptions are the two and a half percent load growth that you previously saw in the utility forecast presentation. 824 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:35,280 The revenue projections include no rate increase in twenty four, but we do propose a rate increase beginning in twenty five. 825 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:41,960 And then additionally, a proposed three percent rate increase from twenty five to twenty eight. 826 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:51,600 And then the expense projections include the increase in personnel costs due to the compensation classification study and the craft pay adjustments, 827 01:08:51,600 --> 01:09:01,120 future merit increases and annual inflation, and then an average two percent increase in operations and maintenance costs. 828 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:13,760 So the pro forma here, you can see where we're estimating to come in under budget that's based off of the purchase power forecast and the components discussed in closed session. 829 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:26,920 The same for the preliminary budget where we're expecting to be under the current year's budget based on the purchase power forecast and the components discussed in closed session. 830 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:34,800 Additionally, the purchase power expenses are also expected to decrease in line with the revenue decrease. 831 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,480 You can see that increase in personnel costs. 832 01:09:37,480 --> 01:09:46,720 Again, that's the comp and class and the three percent O and M is an increase of two percent. 833 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:53,400 The debt service increases appropriately with our capital improvement plan, which we'll see shortly. 834 01:09:53,400 --> 01:10:02,640 We have baseline adjustments in the amount of two point four million and then several supplemental requests in the amount of one point eight million. 835 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:08,360 This pro forma does contemplate a three percent increase for beginning in twenty five to twenty eight. 836 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:21,800 That allows us to be within our target reserves and we are debt service coverage ratio beginning in twenty six. 837 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:32,960 This is the same financial data, but contemplates a twelve and a half percent increase in twenty five versus the three year multi year rate increase. 838 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,920 Proposed rate changes, the cost of service study is ongoing. 839 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:43,440 So we plan to bring back their proposed rate changes as a result of that study in the coming months. 840 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:46,440 The capital plan is this is the high level summary. 841 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:51,960 You can see the building that Terry referred to in the strategic initiatives is the second line. 842 01:10:51,960 --> 01:11:05,240 We have a total of ninety three million proposed for twenty four, a total of four hundred and eleven point nine million for the total five year. 843 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:16,800 So here's a summary by funding type. Again, the same totals just broken down by how we plan to fund those different projects. 844 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,200 Change requests, DME has a handful of baseline adjustments. 845 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:27,600 Again, as you saw with the other presentations we've included in that right hand column, how we suggest funding those. 846 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,000 All of these are suggested to be added to the operating budget. 847 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:40,360 The first one there is an insurance increase to premiums of six hundred and seventy five thousand dollars apprenticeship training. 848 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,960 DME has seen an increase in the number of apprentices that they have within the utility. 849 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,840 So to go along with that, we need to train those apprentices. 850 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:55,120 Additionally, they're also growing their program for their existing journeymen. 851 01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:02,800 So one hundred and fifty thousand for that personal protective equipment, an increase of eighty five thousand. 852 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,360 The compliance consultant one hundred and fifty thousand. 853 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:11,480 The transformer test equipment is a one time cost of three hundred and thirty thousand. 854 01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:21,240 And then finally, on this slide, the consultant fees for the emergency services retainer of two hundred thousand dollars. 855 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:29,120 More baseline adjustment increases, application maintenance and support contracts increase of one hundred thousand dollars. 856 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:36,320 The additional testing and repair to maintain deck maintain the deck three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. 857 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:46,280 And accessory electric equipment, they exempt them for their trucks one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to go along with the previous two trainings. 858 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:52,120 We saw this is an increase for the substation tax of three hundred three thousand dollars. 859 01:12:52,120 --> 01:13:05,800 And then finally, the Texas Meter and Device contract of sixty thousand dollars for a total of two million twenty three thousand dollars for recurring and then three hundred and thirty one time. 860 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,640 The supplemental packages, the merit increase is at the top. 861 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:21,600 The new data network assessment, design and planning three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, the outage coordinator and the relay technician, which Terry discussed earlier in the presentation. 862 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000 Grant for storage of electrical equipment, two hundred and ten thousand dollars. 863 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:32,760 And finally, the construction standards for the voltage conversion, a one time cost of four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 864 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,680 We're suggesting that all of these be funded from the operating budget. 865 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:47,400 In the operating budget, these all of these requests on this slide are funded from the existing vehicle replacement plan. 866 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:53,040 So this is no additional funding. This is this is being funded from existing funds. 867 01:13:53,040 --> 01:14:06,000 I have to pick up truck for sixty five thousand dollars and then two forty eight foot service bucket trucks for two hundred and fifty nine thousand seven hundred forty each for a total of two point four million. 868 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:14,240 So if these aren't additional, they're replacements of something we currently have or these are additional that comes out of the fleet. 869 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,480 These are additions. 870 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:19,840 The funding source is from existing funding, though. 871 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,080 All right. Great. 872 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:29,680 And then those same next steps that we've seen in the other presentations. 873 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:37,320 I'll take any additional questions. Thank you. 874 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,880 See none. Thank you. All right. 875 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,560 It is ten fifty eight and that is the agenda. 876 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:48,400 So, Billy, would you like to move to adjourn to adjourn, please? 877 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,200 We are adjourned.