WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.360 Good morning. 00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:19.200 We are here for the mobility committee meeting Wednesday, May 24th, 2023 10am in the council 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:26.600 work session room looks like we have a quorum present and so we will come to convene in 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.240 a regular meeting on today's date. 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:34.320 The first item is citizen comments or on agenda items. 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.820 I don't believe we have any citizens that are commenting as anybody called in. 00:00:38.820 --> 00:00:44.340 So we'll move on to our number two items for individual consideration running consider 00:00:44.340 --> 00:00:50.880 approval after I say MC two three dash zero one three consider approval of the minutes 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:52.960 February 22nd, 2023. 00:00:52.960 --> 00:01:06.400 Can we have a motion to approve all right now second and I be MC 23 zero one one receiver 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:12.440 report and hold a discussion regarding the city of Denton's transportation mobility project 00:01:12.440 --> 00:01:17.640 status report. 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:24.200 Good morning. 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.880 By the way, this is my favorite part of the mobility committee. 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:31.080 Oh, Barb and set low. 00:01:31.080 --> 00:01:38.280 Oh, see she said she thought I could do this. 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:48.080 Okay, there you go. 00:01:48.080 --> 00:01:57.360 Okay, this is john poster innovative transportation solutions and we will go over the project 00:01:57.360 --> 00:02:04.120 report that contains all the on system projects and some of the off system in in the city 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:05.920 of Denton. 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:12.640 As we always do, we are working on a list of projects that have about a $4 billion impact 00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:20.680 once completed on the residents of the city of Denton and some of the projects like the 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:29.360 outer loop or estimates at this time and I'm sure that those will go up over time. 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:33.800 So 2181 north south this project is essentially open to traffic. 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:44.520 We have some lane changes and some punch list issues we're dealing with the erosion control 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:51.200 making sure that the grass and everything is established before the contract gets to leave. 00:02:51.200 --> 00:03:00.200 We're doing some adjustments to some of the noise wall issues for sight distance and we're 00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:07.200 making some changes to the turn lanes and but essentially when you drive 2181 now it's 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:13.000 open to traffic the way it should be. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:21.360 Finally okay so that 35 North project it's actually broken up into three projects although 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:28.200 there are four CSJs the purple CSJ is attached to a project that's called FM 455 through 00:03:28.200 --> 00:03:35.600 Sanger and it crosses all the way from the high school on the east side all the way out 00:03:35.600 --> 00:03:43.000 to 2449 towards the end of the county and it includes the inner interchange at 35 but 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:50.000 the rest of the project is are the three CSJs that make up the total of the remainder of 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:51.200 the project. 00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:58.900 The two that we're most interested in are the 081 the northern section and the 074 which 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:05.520 takes it from Fort Worth Drive all the way out of the jurisdiction six lanes all the 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:13.080 way through ultimately to the county line and it's got a we'll be done with right away 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:21.360 this month and we are moving into utility relocations we're anticipating that being completed 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:26.400 in December for this year although we've got some issues we may need to address but that's 00:04:26.400 --> 00:04:34.480 okay because our dollars for these projects are in the out years of 24 and 25 so if we 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:41.640 get project ready to let by having the utilities relocated where there's a in the next UTP 00:04:41.640 --> 00:04:44.680 we can update the UTP to move those dollars to a current year. 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:53.200 I have a question about utilities when utilities are moved are utilities only located on either 00:04:53.200 --> 00:04:58.800 side of a major highway like that or can you find utilities on both sides both sides so 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:06.280 what happens is the state of Texas allows the outside Parkway to be utilized as a utility 00:05:06.280 --> 00:05:13.380 accommodation zone and so on an interstate is 20 to 25 feet on a state highway farm to 00:05:13.380 --> 00:05:20.880 market it's 15 and they have priorities of use right so the outside five feet are usually 00:05:20.880 --> 00:05:27.480 reserved for your telephone poles stuff like that and then as you progress in then it goes 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:35.560 to the underground utilities but there it's there because it's easier to go on a road 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:40.360 right away than it is to impact all the residents along that corridor for an easement so that's 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.200 why they do it okay. 00:05:42.200 --> 00:05:48.260 So John I might add Councilmember Byrd during any utility relocation that the city's doing 00:05:48.260 --> 00:05:53.600 and our team is delivering multiple utility relocations along the 35 corridor we've actually 00:05:53.600 --> 00:06:00.320 procured easements outside of the tech stock right away that are water and wastewater specific 00:06:00.320 --> 00:06:04.440 to be able to put the new infrastructure in and because we obviously need to be able to 00:06:04.440 --> 00:06:09.600 access it have working room working space to maintain and operate there are a few areas 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:15.080 where we did use the utility accommodation zone specifically in areas where we weren't 00:06:15.080 --> 00:06:19.840 able to work with the property owner or there was substantial land take that would be impacted 00:06:19.840 --> 00:06:24.800 but it's been a major process to be able to acquire easements along the entire corridor 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:26.080 and we're still working through that. 00:06:26.080 --> 00:06:30.680 I can imagine all right thank you and these are a list of all the various projects we're 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:38.280 working on utility wise on these on these CSJs in their anticipated permit letting and 00:06:38.280 --> 00:06:42.900 then they'll provide us with a schedule. 00:06:42.900 --> 00:06:49.600 So then the merge is the next project below that from 77 south to the split between 35 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.880 E&W. 00:06:51.880 --> 00:06:59.920 We are pressing hard on this project it has a September 23 let date we have you know still 00:06:59.920 --> 00:07:04.480 utility issues we have to address but we're working through those we meet with with tech 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:11.240 stock folks fairly regularly on these and so we are working through the issues associated 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:17.840 with that to try to hit that September date as close as possible and it's fully funded 00:07:17.840 --> 00:07:22.800 in the UTP. 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:29.680 So it says it's got 431 million now and it was 571 we did two things one asked for more 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:35.160 money in this current UTP that's before the Commission now and we removed some scope that 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.880 we thought we could get away with removing in the interim for example we were going to 00:07:38.880 --> 00:07:47.440 build the direct connects for loop 288 on the north part before loop 288 gets there 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:56.280 so all we're going to end up doing is shifting that cost to the loop project so so scope 00:07:56.280 --> 00:08:01.200 change and additional money to get to the right dollar amount and we're still like 00:08:01.200 --> 00:08:13.820 to say tracking for a November let date September is already let six lane divided facility then 00:08:13.820 --> 00:08:22.160 Mayhill we're working towards getting this project ready to let by the end of the year 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:30.560 there are utilities are basically always the critical path item towards the end of a project 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:36.480 the designs done the funding is there the utilities are being relocated and we all feel 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:42.080 fairly confident that we're going to be able to hit that ready to let date of 23 and again 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:46.600 when we get closer to that we'll be able to submit in the next UTP to move it up from 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:52.120 the June 25 date and it's funded as well. 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.120 When you say move it up. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:09:01.360 So right now it's in June of 2025 which is what fiscal year that I think is 24 and we're 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:07.840 going to be ready in December and so and in 23 so that's a whole nother UTP cycle and 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:12.000 so what we do is submit it say we're ready to go and then though there's projects elsewhere 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:19.480 in the state that didn't get ready and so we'll just move into that slot it's a guess 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:25.520 when we start these projects back in the whatever 2011 12 22 we're shooting for a let date 00:09:25.520 --> 00:09:36.480 of 2025 but if we hit it earlier then we get to we get to move them up. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:44.080 Frontage roads we have the section that it's interested to city Denton we have WSP on contract 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:49.960 they are working on the frontage roads and when I say a frontage road project at three 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:55.200 hundred forty one million dollars that includes all of the great separations in their ultimate 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:03.520 form so at 407 when we hit 407 at the bottom of the limits they'll reconstruct that little 00:10:03.520 --> 00:10:08.880 bridge that you have like three lanes going under right now that whole bridge will be 00:10:08.880 --> 00:10:15.620 reconstructed to the ultimate width of the bridge that was planned in the in the schematic 00:10:15.620 --> 00:10:23.200 that was approved back in 2020 so all the bridges across the freeway going north will 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:27.440 be changed to their ultimate configurations along with the frontage roads being built 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:40.280 there's great question on that I had an email from a constituent oh gosh was this back in 00:10:40.280 --> 00:10:45.120 end of March 1st of April because there was a development proposed or there's some talk 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:49.600 about a development down there off Corbin Road UNT and all these kind of things I mean 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:55.200 that's just all sort of anecdotal but preliminary but he was concerned about not concerned is 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.140 questioning about the frontage road because that was part of the discussion that was part 00:10:59.140 --> 00:11:03.200 of the discussion of the developer was how there's gonna be a frontage road here so people 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:09.420 can take the frontage and he got an email from text dot saying that and on this it's 00:11:09.420 --> 00:11:16.540 not showing this is just showing from what is it 407 to 2449 yes so if you look at this 00:11:16.540 --> 00:11:24.520 map we're going down down a certain distance on 35 W for the merge okay we thought we just 00:11:24.520 --> 00:11:28.840 stopped right before the railroad track okay and then on on the project that we're doing 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:37.120 south we stopped just north of 2449 because that area in between there's floodplain right 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:43.320 but I think we've been reached out by that developer I think the county head and where 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.160 we worked with text dot once we got some concerns from the property owner and we think there's 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:53.840 a way to accommodate their access in the interim we have because I think well I don't know 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.480 I don't know wherever that project stands I guess my only question was because the text 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:02.180 dot response was the frontage road section and I quote and I can send it to whoever 00:12:02.180 --> 00:12:09.000 needs it the frontage road section from FM 2449 to FM 1515 which I believe is airport 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:15.640 road right so that's from 2449 up to up to airport road is phase three yep and is not 00:12:15.640 --> 00:12:20.800 expected to be started construction plan for several years so somewhere in a long-term 00:12:20.800 --> 00:12:28.120 plan there is fill it a plan to fill in that segment from 2449 to airport road with a frontage 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:34.720 road have you ever played that game where you draw straws whoever gets the short stick 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:39.480 at the end has to build phase three everybody wants to avoid it okay it's very expensive 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:46.880 and there's no okay mobility there phase two is from 407 all the way down to Dell Iron 00:12:46.880 --> 00:12:54.520 Heart just north of the airport I mean the speedway so we're doing the 2449 to 407 it's 00:12:54.520 --> 00:13:00.120 phase one because there's a lot of development there 407 to Dell Iron Heart is phase two 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.520 and then we're coming back to do the creek we know how that goes right but there are 00:13:05.520 --> 00:13:10.960 that the people that are in that area have reached out to somebody because it got to 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:17.520 me somewhere okay with my other hat on and we've found a way to make okay some of the 00:13:17.520 --> 00:13:23.520 mobility access yeah okay John I would add it also has come through the development review 00:13:23.520 --> 00:13:29.960 process that particular site and part of the coordination efforts are looking at a lot 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:34.240 of that is elevated due to the floodplain in those areas and there's also an ordinance 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:39.080 that actually closes Corbin Road right a lot of those conversations have already been had 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.880 and talking through that with the developer so the portion that TechStats constructing 00:13:42.880 --> 00:13:47.000 and like he said is in a later fashion but they still have a schematic that shows what's 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:51.880 going to happen in that entire area so they at least have a visual representation or schematic 00:13:51.880 --> 00:13:56.880 that talks about what will happen okay yeah the entire corridor has been cleared and a 00:13:56.880 --> 00:14:01.760 schematic approved for them so they know what they're going to get at some point so got 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:06.800 you all right fantastic that clears that up thank you so much thank you manager okay so 00:14:06.800 --> 00:14:12.000 the construction job on 380 from 288 up to 377 progresses I think you've seen now they've 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:18.000 got the temporary concrete traffic barriers up in there those are up while they are and 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:27.440 they're offset so they can start to build the actual median onto the onto the pavement 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:33.080 in those sections so we're we're working on that project it says December this year we're 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:39.480 supposed to be done and as our last mobility meeting I think it was was that last week 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:48.720 last week it's been a lot of living since then we're still on track for this project 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:57.480 it's moving it's moving there they are down behind 21 days right now and that 21 days 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:01.880 gets you to the December 29 but they are working on a recovery schedule to get those 21 days 00:15:01.880 --> 00:15:15.240 back okay then the frontage roads we're just working on design chain Patel is working with 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.960 all the entities that are involved we're have a lot of work down at the south that seems 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:26.760 that everything at 2449 keeps changing depending on who you talk to so we're I think we meet 00:15:26.760 --> 00:15:32.920 fairly constantly with city staff to make sure that what all the development folks there 00:15:32.920 --> 00:15:41.440 want in that area we're making sure the road accommodates whatever the city wants so it 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:48.320 is what it is it's a this will do both we're proposing the design we're doing allows us 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.800 to do both frontage roads north and south before we're just going to do the northbound 00:15:52.800 --> 00:16:00.520 and then a grade separation at 380 and the railroad track in the interim and then as 00:16:00.520 --> 00:16:06.000 development progresses or whatever we'll come back with the main lands and other grade separations 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:19.360 and that two frontage roads two grade separations right now is right at 220 million dollars 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:27.520 down the air and then because of the work we're doing on excuse me before you go on 00:16:27.520 --> 00:16:33.240 if you scroll back down to the this is a really kind of it's kind of a crazy question because 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:38.160 I know the answer but somebody else may want to have the answer to this that green line 00:16:38.160 --> 00:16:43.640 looks like it's laying on top of some buildings or something like that does that mean anything 00:16:43.640 --> 00:16:48.800 in terms you know the buildings the structures that so the white dots if you see if you're 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:55.760 talking about like the white dots and stuff right in here those are all well pad sites 00:16:55.760 --> 00:17:01.440 gas wells so we really had to thread the needle on this and actually early on the city of 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:06.080 Denton worked with us on their transmission line and you can see there's right inside 00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:11.920 the curve there is a gas well we had to move away from that gas well but it also hit one 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:17.480 of your towers but we were able to shift the rest of the road to miss the rest of your 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:26.140 significantly expensive towers so yeah we threaded the needle on the gas wells okay 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:32.240 thank you now the reason the rato acquisition is going from environmental clearance of 20 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:40.520 we usually only give them a year to 2024 and we have 12 parcels in negotiation three in 00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:46.880 ed four parcels in possession out of the 19 and we've been at it on these two sections 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:53.400 for a while because every time you deal with the gas well as a right away take you also 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:59.760 have to deal with the utility issues all at once because the transmission lines or the 00:17:59.760 --> 00:18:06.280 distribution lines when you take them out of service to move them that's a revenue 00:18:06.280 --> 00:18:13.160 loss to those gas wells and so the gas well issues are harder to deal with than just a 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:19.880 standard utility so you had to do rato acquisition and utility relocation essentially all at 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:29.880 the same time on those two those types thank you so as we know we're eventually going 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:37.000 to take 380 East as a freeway and it will tie into the city of Denton and instead of 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:43.680 a coming through town we're going to have it redirected as a freeway to the loop it's 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:48.360 on everybody's thoroughfare plans is that and so in order to do that we have to add 00:18:48.360 --> 00:18:54.760 the frontage roads to the 288 section I call it the north section but I can't get anybody 00:18:54.760 --> 00:19:02.400 to tell me to stop calling it east and so we're working on that connection more direct 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:10.200 connection between 380 and 288 so that the traffic can flow from one facility to the 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:15.720 next without having to come to a hard stop or a hard turn and this one I think we will 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:20.240 meet with every two weeks because you all got a lot of people wanting to build a lot 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:27.220 of stuff 288 and we're just trying to keep the wolves of bay until we can get this thing 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:35.560 cleared so that they can start helping us construct part of it so it's a constant chain 00:19:35.560 --> 00:19:45.920 ideally where would that that road run into 288 what's the yeah there's a there's a big 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:50.360 warehouse development going going down the ground right now we're hitting 288 just north 00:19:50.360 --> 00:20:01.640 of that okay we'll go right behind them yeah I've seen that Bonnie Bray so this is so up 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:09.200 here on 288 if this is this portion in detail so this section right here we are designing 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:16.840 with the Westwood contract the county's picking up the content design for that and it includes 00:20:16.840 --> 00:20:23.320 Bonnie Bray 7 which is y'all project y'all been working on from the south north for years 00:20:23.320 --> 00:20:30.360 and this is a segment we put it on this report because although it's Bonnie Bray it's a connection 00:20:30.360 --> 00:20:35.720 between US 77 and in the loop and so tech start and cog are funding this and so they're 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:40.840 picking it up as a central and on system job and so it has to be environmentally cleared 00:20:40.840 --> 00:20:46.640 and so we just added it to the 288 job but we wanted it as a breakout so you can see 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:54.720 that when you see reports on Bonnie Bray 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 that it's a it's part of the loop 00:20:54.720 --> 00:21:09.840 288 job so its lifecycle is tied to the 288 left cycle Airport Road we are moving towards 00:21:09.840 --> 00:21:15.480 a October of 2024 ready to let we should have all the right of way acquired by the end of 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:24.600 this month and I don't know of any real issues on this project that it came up in our last 00:21:24.600 --> 00:21:31.180 meeting so I think we're cooking with gas or no you can't cook with gas anymore whatever 00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:41.800 the other thing is 1173 so the eastern part 1173 is running great we're moving forward 00:21:41.800 --> 00:21:48.120 we're trying to get all the right of way done for sure on the east now because we want to 00:21:48.120 --> 00:21:54.320 do the tie in with the 335 job that we're going to let next you know into this year 00:21:54.320 --> 00:22:03.280 the west side they keep changing council staff on me and so and members and so initially 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:09.680 we were going to cut the limits off just east of the railroad track right here in this area 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:15.200 but I think the new folks want us to come back and talk to them about the art of the 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.400 possible of extending the improvements all the way to 156 and the hard part is is that's 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:29.240 a historical downtown and everything is right on the road I mean right on the road so we're 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:37.800 scheduling a meeting between the textile at the county and crumb to discuss the logical 00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:49.960 terminal on the west side but the east side's moving fine outer loop so Monday today's Wednesday 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:56.760 Tuesday Monday they had the second public meeting at embassy suites I'm sure that says 00:22:56.760 --> 00:23:05.720 they didn't hear somewhere Monday May 22nd Convention Center from four to seven there 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:11.360 were about a hundred plus people that showed up over time right it's a come and go meet 00:23:11.360 --> 00:23:17.760 and greet the overwhelming majority of the questions we're getting is where is it going 00:23:17.760 --> 00:23:23.220 to be and how long is it going to take to get built that we do have some folks are specifically 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:32.480 concerned about alignments that are bringing up that issue but for the for the most intent 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:40.260 everybody understands the need for the road and what I would like to do probably on our 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:47.940 next mobility meeting is include a second photograph of this area because people think 00:23:47.940 --> 00:23:53.680 we're building the outer loop to attract development and what we have is a picture that shows this 00:23:53.680 --> 00:24:02.120 same area with all of the approved developments that are fixing to come out of the ground 00:24:02.120 --> 00:24:07.540 those that are in process that are about to be approved and those that are rolling into 00:24:07.540 --> 00:24:15.000 the process and they're color-coded and there's not any hardly any white left between thirty 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:23.040 five and the county line it's just it's staggering the numbers that you see in this area and 00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:27.760 so we're not building nobody's trying to get a loop road put here because we want to 00:24:27.760 --> 00:24:33.120 attract development the developments coming and there is no infrastructure for those people 00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:44.760 so we're rolling for a summer of 2026 environmental clearance and the reason it's taking that 00:24:44.760 --> 00:24:50.440 long is because this is a full-on environmental impact statement as opposed to an environmental 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:56.280 assessment which is a lower level clearance we're doing the highest level of clearance 00:24:56.280 --> 00:25:10.200 that you can elmond locus this is where i get to turn it over to my boss so i'm sorry 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:17.000 i just got choked a minute ago but elmond locus so we met with the state and with textile 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:24.240 and also the county and john last week and we are working through we've agreed to the 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:29.080 pavement cross-section textile is working through their design and this is all for the 00:25:29.080 --> 00:25:34.480 portions that are south of hickory that you see color-coded on the map they are going 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:41.400 to be working through taking that to the next step which is getting the funding associated 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:46.960 with it they're also working through an agreement that we'll have to go to austin for approval 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:52.840 for us to turn back the roadway to the state from the state to the city i'm sorry i have 00:25:52.840 --> 00:25:58.160 asked um amanda miller when she comes to make her presentation at the council meeting on 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:03.200 june 6th to be prepared to give you all more specific guidelines and timelines so you have 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:09.680 those answers we get questions on that periodically i know you do too and so being able to address 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:15.800 those questions and concerns on the southern portion on the northern portion we're currently 00:26:15.800 --> 00:26:24.160 working through an ica with the county for the funding we received as a um and i know 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:27.880 you're going to ask me that it's not on the top of my head john what what an ica i can't 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:31.440 think of the interlocal cooperation agreement operation i couldn't think of the c people 00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:37.640 call it ila but they've never read the the statute it's an interlocal cooperation agreement 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.400 there is a c in there thank you for helping i'm sorry i i couldn't remember the c on the 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.960 top of my head appreciate it so we're working through that with the county we're going to 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.720 bring that forward it'll come through council um and that's for the first phase of our funding 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:58.960 to start the design of the alman locust cross section from 380 um to right around the downtown 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:05.160 area right around oak area um and we already have the funding uh approved in the budget 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.920 for the water wastewater improvements um and then as a part of the bond package for november 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.520 it has some additional improvements that are a part of the drainage in that area um and 00:27:14.520 --> 00:27:19.040 so kind of that collaboration of all of those things together but we've already been meeting 00:27:19.040 --> 00:27:24.800 with john and his team um through the county process and so that'll be coming forward here 00:27:24.800 --> 00:27:33.360 in the next few uh weeks as part of a council meeting so progress um anxious to get a copy 00:27:33.360 --> 00:27:38.120 of the agreement i've already asked for the draft copy of the agreement for the turn back 00:27:38.120 --> 00:27:42.400 so that our legal team can go ahead and start assessing that um there's currently another 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:48.200 city going through the same process um which is the city of grand prairie and so they're 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:53.200 working through some of those logistics and that'll be the template that's used our ultimate 00:27:53.200 --> 00:28:01.480 goal will be to take over elman locust from eagle to 380 as a city roadway so um working 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:06.360 through that process and and i'll tell you tex dot is just as interested as getting the 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:12.420 southern portion completed as we are interested in them getting it completed um so they want 00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:19.000 to have that roadway reconstructed they agreed to the roadway cross section the design and 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.880 we are evaluating if there's any improvements that can be made from a city perspective to 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:28.080 sidewalks or ada concerns um just because that's not included in the product part of 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:32.160 the project so you may see something coming back forward through the cip process that 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.680 says we'd like to go ahead and add this because it makes sense to do it all at once um so 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:42.760 that'll come through the cip process but definitely move in in the right direction um and i know 00:28:42.760 --> 00:28:47.760 amanda is very aware that that'll possibly be a question that comes up on her june 6th 00:28:47.760 --> 00:28:55.680 presentation so i've had her prepare for that all right thank you absolutely did you have 00:28:55.680 --> 00:29:01.360 any questions glossary of acronyms there it is we're going to have a test on these yes 00:29:01.360 --> 00:29:05.680 there's the ica right there if i just would have had it open i couldn't remember the c 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:10.440 interlogal cooperative agreement thank you john all right i don't know should i leave 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:17.700 it you're good no worries you're doing no worries awesome thank you sir thank you john 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:37.460 okay well then we're going to move on to mc two three dash zero one four receive a report 00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:42.160 hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding moving the mobility committee meeting 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:50.080 time from 10 till 11 absolutely so as you can see from the calendar we only have a few 00:29:50.080 --> 00:29:58.600 dates left we have the june 28th july 26th august 23rd september 27th october 25th november 00:29:58.600 --> 00:30:05.280 29th and december 20th meetings left so um we have substantial i guess we're halfway 00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:13.380 there maybe for as far as the calendar year goes um and so um we know there may be additional 00:30:13.380 --> 00:30:18.800 committee members that join your team um when those types of situations go through the process 00:30:18.800 --> 00:30:22.980 um through the council one of the thoughts that had been brought up or conversations 00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:28.500 that had been brought up in the past was moving the meeting from 10 a.m to 11 a.m and we did 00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:33.600 check with the room checked with billy from as far as broadcasting etc that time frame 00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:37.800 is available so this action item really for you is just to give us direction as to whether 00:30:37.800 --> 00:30:43.340 you'd like for us to move from 10 to 11 um or if you're comfortable with staying at 10 00:30:43.340 --> 00:30:46.760 we have no preference either way we'll be here for you we just would like your direction 00:30:46.760 --> 00:30:54.760 madam chair if i could i probably would like to at least withdraw or postpone this request 00:30:54.760 --> 00:31:00.120 and i think the request really came from me only because you're right in a month or so 00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:05.960 the mobility committee may be comprised of different members so i think that's the time 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:10.940 if anybody wants to change anything because i may or may not still be here so if i if 00:31:10.940 --> 00:31:15.160 it's being changed because of an impact to me i think we need to postpone that absolutely 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:20.520 and i can work around it until we see how everything flushes out so sure yeah that is 00:31:20.520 --> 00:31:25.520 no problem at all we're happy to do so and we'll bring this back forward to see if there's 00:31:25.520 --> 00:31:30.600 any updates that need to be made and i don't have timing on all of that i know the city 00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:35.440 secretary's office is working through those logistics so i know that's upcoming i know 00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:40.560 we've been communicating with them so i would anticipate it possibly might be july or august 00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:44.120 before that time frame happens so i know we're going to get to a point where we don't have 00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:49.280 a lot of council meetings here in the upcoming due to this summer in the retreats etc so 00:31:49.280 --> 00:31:54.280 awesome okay well then we can hold off on that item and we won't take any direction 00:31:54.280 --> 00:32:02.840 for that okay and uh so we'll move to mc 23 day zero one six staff memorandum awesome 00:32:02.840 --> 00:32:07.480 so i have trevor crane our director of capital projects who's going to come and give you 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:15.000 updates on both of these okay good morning everyone good morning so we'll go through 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:21.480 some updates here um bonnie beret street um so the temporary pavement that um that construction 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.560 or that fix that we were talking about the last couple of times that have that has been 00:32:24.560 --> 00:32:30.720 completed temporary pavement is all down so um between i-35 and scripture is open to traffic 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:37.000 and fully completed um bonnie beret phase three i won't go through all this again but 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:43.200 uh it was re-advertised and is actually opening this afternoon so um fingers crossed we've 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:50.040 uh we did get a lot of traffic on that on that um bid um i think we got four or five 00:32:50.040 --> 00:32:54.140 um contractors that were looking at it and they were all new contractors so we're hoping 00:32:54.140 --> 00:33:01.480 that that comes back in um at a better cost so i'll know more this afternoon um bonnie 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.800 beret phase six i think last time we talked we talked about us acquiring that last uh 00:33:05.800 --> 00:33:09.880 parcel that we were looking for so we have everything we need um now we're working with 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.000 text dot to get the state letter of authority that will allow us to um move that out to 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:18.520 bid so that's what we're working at um working at now um and as soon as we get that we'll 00:33:18.520 --> 00:33:24.600 be putting that out on the street for bid um and bonnie beret three and six both have 00:33:24.600 --> 00:33:30.720 a two-year construction timeline um bonnie up uh since bonnie beret phase three is opening 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.520 today that one's probably going to move a little faster than six um but we're hoping 00:33:35.520 --> 00:33:42.200 around quarter three of 2025 and then probably six a little later than that so hickory creek 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:46.320 road phase three um really nothing to report here everything's moving forward we're dealing 00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:51.000 with a couple of utility issues but um really nothing that should impact the timeline of 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:57.120 that project at this point um so it's moving forward um looking at a estimated completion 00:33:57.120 --> 00:34:06.600 of quarter one of 2025 um and that's i have a question of hickory creek yes ma'am road 00:34:06.600 --> 00:34:14.000 um i know that is a winding road is that right yes ma'am is this project going to improve 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:19.240 so what it does be so tight yeah so we're actually getting rid of that all that those 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:25.360 curves we're putting a bridge over hickory creek so from um brush creek all the way to 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.180 country club road i believe um it's going to be a a bridge that goes over that roadway 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:35.720 and actual hickory creek as it is now hickory creek road will not be accessible to traffic 00:34:35.720 --> 00:34:40.240 okay all right thank you yes ma'am did you know that they're gonna put a bridge over 00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:47.800 there it's tight over it's a pretty big bridge yeah all right thank you and that's all i 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:56.760 have all right thank you very much thank you trevor yeah trevor has a really cool video 00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:03.440 that shows that entire bridge what it's gonna what it looked like before and what it's gonna 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:08.680 look like so that's a really um i like the rendering it's something that we are talking 00:35:08.680 --> 00:35:13.000 about doing more with all of our projects because it's really hard to visualize what's 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.840 going to what it's going to look like when it's completed so it's a really cool video 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.120 um that was shown during the council meeting but i know it's been a little while since 00:35:20.120 --> 00:35:26.280 then so okay so last thing we have is just future items for consideration um for us to 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.320 bring back to you as part of the staff memorandum so bonnie bray we're giving you the bonnie 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:37.560 bray and hickory creek road updates monthly um ryan we're not doing anything until um 00:35:37.560 --> 00:35:43.080 we get closer i think i know we've mentioned this before but ryan's on hold um as we move 00:35:43.080 --> 00:35:48.360 through completing hickory creek phase three since they're both the only really true east 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:55.240 west corridors that are substantial um in those areas um the text dot citywide speed 00:35:55.240 --> 00:36:00.840 study limit change um the portion um that text dot is actually reviewing brett has had 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.720 several conversations back and forth with text dot recently um they've asked for some 00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:11.880 updated maps now they're asking for mile markers of the locations so we've made quite a few 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:15.320 back and forth with some maps and working on completing all of those and getting those 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.760 all submitted over to them so um the speed study that we did they wanted graphical representations 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.560 of actually the locations of which we did the speed studies so brett's i think he's 00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:29.640 had several he's shaken his head yes several back and forth um emails i've seen kind of 00:36:29.640 --> 00:36:33.480 the email trail back and forth we don't have an estimated time frame on when that's going 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.960 to be completed but i'm just working to try to make sure we meet all the requirements 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.200 that they're requesting of us so i have a question for that yes ma'am have we actually 00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:50.600 i've seen some new fresh signs yes ma'am um and they're wanting to know where each one of those 00:36:50.600 --> 00:36:58.680 signs are located or i mean which streets changed no ma'am we have not had the so we have not had 00:36:58.680 --> 00:37:05.160 the ability to make any of the modifications we recommend on the textile roadways within the city 00:37:05.160 --> 00:37:12.280 of denton because they formally own the roadway so um james has made all the updates to all of the 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:17.000 signs that were done that were city roadways james andrews who's our traffic operations manager 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:24.040 he and his team have already swapped out all of the signs um and that includes the school zone 00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:31.240 signs that needed to be updated but the textile roadways specifically the updates cannot be made 00:37:31.240 --> 00:37:36.200 until they're in agreement or have something that they would like for us to modify have additional 00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:40.360 questions so we anticipate that's going to take a little time to work through that so 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:47.400 any modification to a speed limit sign in textile right away or that is on their roadways 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.720 it's going to be some time until we work through this whole process 00:37:51.720 --> 00:37:53.960 did you have a question again you have one question yes sir 00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:02.120 on the i think the report was your turn your mic on yeah it's okay the uh the uh 00:38:02.120 --> 00:38:09.640 you're reletting the bonnie bray i forgot the phase number from rose lawn to 35 what phase is that 00:38:09.640 --> 00:38:16.280 uh rose lawn to 35 is three three okay yes so that's being relet or open or being submitted 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.920 or they're submitting the bid today is something open today the bid is open yeah okay so what's 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:28.440 the timeline from for that so is it you get them in how long is it held out for what's the if it's 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:33.800 if it's open today so it typically takes a couple of months for us to work through the process so 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:39.960 as soon as the bid's open we go through all of the bid evaluations um i believe this was 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:48.040 one was done competitive sale proposal okay all right cool and that's also due to the council 00:38:49.080 --> 00:38:55.320 schedule so yeah um the summer schedule sometimes i know y'all get very packed agendas but it's 00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.680 because there's only a couple of meetings during the the summer months but um i would anticipate 00:39:00.680 --> 00:39:07.160 we're having a pre-con with that contractor probably august so as soon as the council gets 00:39:07.160 --> 00:39:13.560 approves the contract then we would move forward with um getting the pre-construction meeting held 00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:17.880 having that contractor get on board and then moving forward through the process help me 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.360 understand some some some terms because i think i'm a little confused so when you say the bid is 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:28.360 opening today that means people can submit yes today so or is that they're being open today 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:35.000 because they have submitted no they do not submit until but it's opening the bid so about 30 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:41.560 so about 30 days ago 35 days ago is when we put everything on the street for everyone to review 00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:46.520 and and and turn in their bids today we're at we're actually opening the bids to see how much 00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:53.720 gotcha and then what what we'll do is that will give us we'll open those submittals um i believe 00:39:53.720 --> 00:39:57.400 it was competitive sale proposal so we'll have a team that goes through those submittals we'll 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:03.080 look at all the contractors um all their the paperwork they turned in all those types of 00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:07.640 things and then we'll grade it out we'll grade it out and then we'll bring it to council with 00:40:07.640 --> 00:40:13.480 whoever was the the time so you'll know pretty quickly if hopefully that we'll know the changes 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:18.360 you put in place brought things down to a little more manageable level we'll notice today it's 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:22.440 going to be like uh-oh this really didn't change much and so correct we got to figure something 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:28.360 out yeah we'll know that today okay i think what we're saying is if um if it did bring it down and 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:32.360 we find a contractor we want to move forward to then it takes us about two or three months to 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.760 go through all the paperwork and then get it on council to approve that contract but if not then 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.440 you bring back the same thing you did before and you go we reject all bids and we'll have to look 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:46.280 at it and determine yeah maybe this is just the maybe this is just the real cost of it and that's 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.520 what we have to do so yeah appreciate the clarification thank you no problem you know it 00:40:50.520 --> 00:40:57.080 sounds like opening the bid sounds like you're putting it out there opening the bid literally 00:40:57.080 --> 00:41:03.720 means opening the envelope and correct and looking at it correct so once the project is ready to go 00:41:03.720 --> 00:41:11.480 to bid we advertise which is the advertisement which is typically 30 days whatever so today we're 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:18.680 physically opening those right sorry for the confusion interpreted both ways we're going to 00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:25.640 open the bid out well and i'll tell you you bring up a very valid point some of the things that our 00:41:25.640 --> 00:41:30.440 team's been thinking about is we are so ingrained to a lot of these terminologies and processes that 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:37.960 we use is how um in our next construction guide or even a presentation to council we can talk through 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.720 the life cycle of a project and then when you get into construction what temporary payment means 00:41:43.720 --> 00:41:48.360 versus what permanent payment the life cycle of a project there too because that we get a lot of 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:53.720 questions that and so do you so we'd like to help educate so um and we don't have answers you know 00:41:53.720 --> 00:41:59.160 that are always great from a time frame perspective but we always do our best to try to make sure those 00:41:59.160 --> 00:42:05.880 construction schedules are as short as possible um because of my background in education i will 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:14.600 tell you that the uh the level of reading and learning is on sixth grade level for the entire 00:42:14.600 --> 00:42:20.600 country for sure so anything that you all are putting out there or we everybody is putting out 00:42:20.600 --> 00:42:27.080 there we need to speak as simply as we possibly can absolutely to capture everyone in so absolutely 00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:32.120 we're even working to implement that as a part of our pre-construction meetings we're doing with 00:42:32.120 --> 00:42:37.400 you know people and many times for example on bunny berry face three they may have no idea what's 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:42.440 under the street and there's a lot of infrastructure underneath our roadways so just trying to help 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:49.400 educate and explain um and really it helps tell the why so right looking forward to those upcoming 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:57.080 conversations um i have the answer to um so i've updated you and given you the answer on the city 00:42:57.080 --> 00:43:03.720 wide speed study um i think the other two items that came up from february one was evaluating the 00:43:03.720 --> 00:43:09.720 ita's uh presentation schedule i think we talked about did it need to be on a different time frame 00:43:09.720 --> 00:43:14.520 i think councilmember bird you mentioned that you would like to still see it every month it was 00:43:14.520 --> 00:43:20.280 something that you enjoyed i know you were okay with it so we were just going to ask if you had 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:26.040 any additional questions or comments on that or if we could remove that request from the agenda matrix 00:43:26.040 --> 00:43:32.520 and continue with it being monthly okay and then um resident construction updates we brought that 00:43:32.520 --> 00:43:37.640 forward in february so we're just requesting to also uh remove that so we'll continue to give you 00:43:37.640 --> 00:43:42.920 the bonnie bray and hickory creek and then at such time we have information to share on ryan road or 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.160 citywide speed study we'll bring that forward and this now opens up the time for if you have 00:43:47.160 --> 00:43:51.160 anything additional that you'd like for us to bring forward at the next mobility committee meeting 00:43:51.160 --> 00:43:59.880 on june 27th you have anything i actually have something but i forgot what it was i should write 00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:07.000 it down i've been doing that lately um okay i don't have anything okay well if you think of it later 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.880 no problem at all so awesome well then oh yes i did have a question yes this is what it was about 00:44:14.600 --> 00:44:23.080 the bicycle the uh the what are those called those white ballots yes the ballots i just see the 00:44:23.080 --> 00:44:30.840 ballots in certain locations is that project rolling out or are we still in a testing phase 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:39.320 as to which which locations correct and also about the employee that we lost uh moved to florida 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:45.720 the gentleman um that was here for a little while i think it was working on the biking and you know 00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:51.960 correct transportation part tell me a little bit about where we are on on that particular um project 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:56.920 so been with those things that we can answer or should we bring those back at the next agenda 00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:03.000 at the next next time okay so next meeting we can bring you back as a status update of some of the 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:08.600 most recent things that we've deployed and then also an update on the hiring of the bike pad we'll 00:45:08.600 --> 00:45:14.120 have brett make those presentations okay that'd be great absolutely all righty then that is 00:45:14.120 --> 00:45:18.040 everything and we'll add those two things to our agenda and be prepared for you next month 00:45:18.040 --> 00:45:23.800 okay do we have any more any concluding items did you have anything okay well i don't have any uh 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:32.840 thing additional to add uh so we will close the meeting at 10 is that 10 45 uh am this morning 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:35.080 thank you thank you thank you