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 Good morning.

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 We are here for the mobility committee meeting Wednesday, May 24th, 2023 10am in the council

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 work session room looks like we have a quorum present and so we will come to convene in

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 a regular meeting on today's date.

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 The first item is citizen comments or on agenda items.

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 I don't believe we have any citizens that are commenting as anybody called in.

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 So we'll move on to our number two items for individual consideration running consider

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 approval after I say MC two three dash zero one three consider approval of the minutes

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 February 22nd, 2023.

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 Can we have a motion to approve all right now second and I be MC 23 zero one one receiver

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 report and hold a discussion regarding the city of Denton's transportation mobility project

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 status report.

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 Good morning.

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 By the way, this is my favorite part of the mobility committee.

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 Oh, Barb and set low.

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 Oh, see she said she thought I could do this.

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 Okay, there you go.

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 Okay, this is john poster innovative transportation solutions and we will go over the project

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 report that contains all the on system projects and some of the off system in in the city

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 of Denton.

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 As we always do, we are working on a list of projects that have about a $4 billion impact

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 once completed on the residents of the city of Denton and some of the projects like the

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 outer loop or estimates at this time and I'm sure that those will go up over time.

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 So 2181 north south this project is essentially open to traffic.

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 We have some lane changes and some punch list issues we're dealing with the erosion control

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 making sure that the grass and everything is established before the contract gets to leave.

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 We're doing some adjustments to some of the noise wall issues for sight distance and we're

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 making some changes to the turn lanes and but essentially when you drive 2181 now it's

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 open to traffic the way it should be.

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 Finally okay so that 35 North project it's actually broken up into three projects although

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 there are four CSJs the purple CSJ is attached to a project that's called FM 455 through

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 Sanger and it crosses all the way from the high school on the east side all the way out

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 to 2449 towards the end of the county and it includes the inner interchange at 35 but

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 the rest of the project is are the three CSJs that make up the total of the remainder of

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 the project.

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 The two that we're most interested in are the 081 the northern section and the 074 which

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 takes it from Fort Worth Drive all the way out of the jurisdiction six lanes all the

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 way through ultimately to the county line and it's got a we'll be done with right away

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 this month and we are moving into utility relocations we're anticipating that being completed

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 in December for this year although we've got some issues we may need to address but that's

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 okay because our dollars for these projects are in the out years of 24 and 25 so if we

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 get project ready to let by having the utilities relocated where there's a in the next UTP

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 we can update the UTP to move those dollars to a current year.

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 I have a question about utilities when utilities are moved are utilities only located on either

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 side of a major highway like that or can you find utilities on both sides both sides so

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 what happens is the state of Texas allows the outside Parkway to be utilized as a utility

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 accommodation zone and so on an interstate is 20 to 25 feet on a state highway farm to

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 market it's 15 and they have priorities of use right so the outside five feet are usually

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 reserved for your telephone poles stuff like that and then as you progress in then it goes

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 to the underground utilities but there it's there because it's easier to go on a road

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 right away than it is to impact all the residents along that corridor for an easement so that's

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 why they do it okay.

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 So John I might add Councilmember Byrd during any utility relocation that the city's doing

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 and our team is delivering multiple utility relocations along the 35 corridor we've actually

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 procured easements outside of the tech stock right away that are water and wastewater specific

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 to be able to put the new infrastructure in and because we obviously need to be able to

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 access it have working room working space to maintain and operate there are a few areas

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 where we did use the utility accommodation zone specifically in areas where we weren't

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 able to work with the property owner or there was substantial land take that would be impacted

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 but it's been a major process to be able to acquire easements along the entire corridor

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 and we're still working through that.

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 I can imagine all right thank you and these are a list of all the various projects we're

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 working on utility wise on these on these CSJs in their anticipated permit letting and

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 then they'll provide us with a schedule.

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 So then the merge is the next project below that from 77 south to the split between 35

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 We are pressing hard on this project it has a September 23 let date we have you know still

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 utility issues we have to address but we're working through those we meet with with tech

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 stock folks fairly regularly on these and so we are working through the issues associated

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 with that to try to hit that September date as close as possible and it's fully funded

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 in the UTP.

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 So it says it's got 431 million now and it was 571 we did two things one asked for more

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 money in this current UTP that's before the Commission now and we removed some scope that

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 we thought we could get away with removing in the interim for example we were going to

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 build the direct connects for loop 288 on the north part before loop 288 gets there

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 so all we're going to end up doing is shifting that cost to the loop project so so scope

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 change and additional money to get to the right dollar amount and we're still like

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 to say tracking for a November let date September is already let six lane divided facility then

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 Mayhill we're working towards getting this project ready to let by the end of the year

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 there are utilities are basically always the critical path item towards the end of a project

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 the designs done the funding is there the utilities are being relocated and we all feel

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 fairly confident that we're going to be able to hit that ready to let date of 23 and again

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 when we get closer to that we'll be able to submit in the next UTP to move it up from

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 the June 25 date and it's funded as well.

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 When you say move it up.

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 So right now it's in June of 2025 which is what fiscal year that I think is 24 and we're

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 going to be ready in December and so and in 23 so that's a whole nother UTP cycle and

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 so what we do is submit it say we're ready to go and then though there's projects elsewhere

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 in the state that didn't get ready and so we'll just move into that slot it's a guess

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 when we start these projects back in the whatever 2011 12 22 we're shooting for a let date

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 of 2025 but if we hit it earlier then we get to we get to move them up.

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 Frontage roads we have the section that it's interested to city Denton we have WSP on contract

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 they are working on the frontage roads and when I say a frontage road project at three

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 hundred forty one million dollars that includes all of the great separations in their ultimate

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 form so at 407 when we hit 407 at the bottom of the limits they'll reconstruct that little

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 bridge that you have like three lanes going under right now that whole bridge will be

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 reconstructed to the ultimate width of the bridge that was planned in the in the schematic

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 that was approved back in 2020 so all the bridges across the freeway going north will

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 be changed to their ultimate configurations along with the frontage roads being built

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 there's great question on that I had an email from a constituent oh gosh was this back in

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 end of March 1st of April because there was a development proposed or there's some talk

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 about a development down there off Corbin Road UNT and all these kind of things I mean

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 that's just all sort of anecdotal but preliminary but he was concerned about not concerned is

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 questioning about the frontage road because that was part of the discussion that was part

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 of the discussion of the developer was how there's gonna be a frontage road here so people

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 can take the frontage and he got an email from text dot saying that and on this it's

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 not showing this is just showing from what is it 407 to 2449 yes so if you look at this

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 map we're going down down a certain distance on 35 W for the merge okay we thought we just

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 stopped right before the railroad track okay and then on on the project that we're doing

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 south we stopped just north of 2449 because that area in between there's floodplain right

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 but I think we've been reached out by that developer I think the county head and where

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 we worked with text dot once we got some concerns from the property owner and we think there's

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 a way to accommodate their access in the interim we have because I think well I don't know

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 I don't know wherever that project stands I guess my only question was because the text

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 dot response was the frontage road section and I quote and I can send it to whoever

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 needs it the frontage road section from FM 2449 to FM 1515 which I believe is airport

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 road right so that's from 2449 up to up to airport road is phase three yep and is not

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 expected to be started construction plan for several years so somewhere in a long-term

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 plan there is fill it a plan to fill in that segment from 2449 to airport road with a frontage

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 road have you ever played that game where you draw straws whoever gets the short stick

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 at the end has to build phase three everybody wants to avoid it okay it's very expensive

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 and there's no okay mobility there phase two is from 407 all the way down to Dell Iron

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 Heart just north of the airport I mean the speedway so we're doing the 2449 to 407 it's

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 phase one because there's a lot of development there 407 to Dell Iron Heart is phase two

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 and then we're coming back to do the creek we know how that goes right but there are

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 that the people that are in that area have reached out to somebody because it got to

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 me somewhere okay with my other hat on and we've found a way to make okay some of the

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 mobility access yeah okay John I would add it also has come through the development review

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 process that particular site and part of the coordination efforts are looking at a lot

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 of that is elevated due to the floodplain in those areas and there's also an ordinance

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 that actually closes Corbin Road right a lot of those conversations have already been had

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 and talking through that with the developer so the portion that TechStats constructing

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 and like he said is in a later fashion but they still have a schematic that shows what's

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 going to happen in that entire area so they at least have a visual representation or schematic

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 that talks about what will happen okay yeah the entire corridor has been cleared and a

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 schematic approved for them so they know what they're going to get at some point so got

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 you all right fantastic that clears that up thank you so much thank you manager okay so

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 the construction job on 380 from 288 up to 377 progresses I think you've seen now they've

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 got the temporary concrete traffic barriers up in there those are up while they are and

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 they're offset so they can start to build the actual median onto the onto the pavement

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 in those sections so we're we're working on that project it says December this year we're

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 supposed to be done and as our last mobility meeting I think it was was that last week

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 last week it's been a lot of living since then we're still on track for this project

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 it's moving it's moving there they are down behind 21 days right now and that 21 days

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 gets you to the December 29 but they are working on a recovery schedule to get those 21 days

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 back okay then the frontage roads we're just working on design chain Patel is working with

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 all the entities that are involved we're have a lot of work down at the south that seems

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 that everything at 2449 keeps changing depending on who you talk to so we're I think we meet

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 fairly constantly with city staff to make sure that what all the development folks there

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 want in that area we're making sure the road accommodates whatever the city wants so it

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 is what it is it's a this will do both we're proposing the design we're doing allows us

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 to do both frontage roads north and south before we're just going to do the northbound

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 and then a grade separation at 380 and the railroad track in the interim and then as

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 development progresses or whatever we'll come back with the main lands and other grade separations

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 and that two frontage roads two grade separations right now is right at 220 million dollars

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 down the air and then because of the work we're doing on excuse me before you go on

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 if you scroll back down to the this is a really kind of it's kind of a crazy question because

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 I know the answer but somebody else may want to have the answer to this that green line

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 looks like it's laying on top of some buildings or something like that does that mean anything

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 in terms you know the buildings the structures that so the white dots if you see if you're

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 talking about like the white dots and stuff right in here those are all well pad sites

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 gas wells so we really had to thread the needle on this and actually early on the city of

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 Denton worked with us on their transmission line and you can see there's right inside

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 the curve there is a gas well we had to move away from that gas well but it also hit one

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 of your towers but we were able to shift the rest of the road to miss the rest of your

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 significantly expensive towers so yeah we threaded the needle on the gas wells okay

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 thank you now the reason the rato acquisition is going from environmental clearance of 20

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 we usually only give them a year to 2024 and we have 12 parcels in negotiation three in

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 ed four parcels in possession out of the 19 and we've been at it on these two sections

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 for a while because every time you deal with the gas well as a right away take you also

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 have to deal with the utility issues all at once because the transmission lines or the

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 distribution lines when you take them out of service to move them that's a revenue

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 loss to those gas wells and so the gas well issues are harder to deal with than just a

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 standard utility so you had to do rato acquisition and utility relocation essentially all at

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 the same time on those two those types thank you so as we know we're eventually going

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 to take 380 East as a freeway and it will tie into the city of Denton and instead of

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 a coming through town we're going to have it redirected as a freeway to the loop it's

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 on everybody's thoroughfare plans is that and so in order to do that we have to add

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 the frontage roads to the 288 section I call it the north section but I can't get anybody

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 to tell me to stop calling it east and so we're working on that connection more direct

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 connection between 380 and 288 so that the traffic can flow from one facility to the

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 next without having to come to a hard stop or a hard turn and this one I think we will

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 meet with every two weeks because you all got a lot of people wanting to build a lot

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 of stuff 288 and we're just trying to keep the wolves of bay until we can get this thing

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 cleared so that they can start helping us construct part of it so it's a constant chain

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 ideally where would that that road run into 288 what's the yeah there's a there's a big

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 warehouse development going going down the ground right now we're hitting 288 just north

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 of that okay we'll go right behind them yeah I've seen that Bonnie Bray so this is so up

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 here on 288 if this is this portion in detail so this section right here we are designing

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 with the Westwood contract the county's picking up the content design for that and it includes

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 Bonnie Bray 7 which is y'all project y'all been working on from the south north for years

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 and this is a segment we put it on this report because although it's Bonnie Bray it's a connection

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 between US 77 and in the loop and so tech start and cog are funding this and so they're

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 picking it up as a central and on system job and so it has to be environmentally cleared

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 and so we just added it to the 288 job but we wanted it as a breakout so you can see

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 that when you see reports on Bonnie Bray 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 that it's a it's part of the loop

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 288 job so its lifecycle is tied to the 288 left cycle Airport Road we are moving towards

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 a October of 2024 ready to let we should have all the right of way acquired by the end of

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 this month and I don't know of any real issues on this project that it came up in our last

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 meeting so I think we're cooking with gas or no you can't cook with gas anymore whatever

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 the other thing is 1173 so the eastern part 1173 is running great we're moving forward

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 we're trying to get all the right of way done for sure on the east now because we want to

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 do the tie in with the 335 job that we're going to let next you know into this year

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 the west side they keep changing council staff on me and so and members and so initially

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 we were going to cut the limits off just east of the railroad track right here in this area

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 but I think the new folks want us to come back and talk to them about the art of the

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 possible of extending the improvements all the way to 156 and the hard part is is that's

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 a historical downtown and everything is right on the road I mean right on the road so we're

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 scheduling a meeting between the textile at the county and crumb to discuss the logical

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 terminal on the west side but the east side's moving fine outer loop so Monday today's Wednesday

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 Tuesday Monday they had the second public meeting at embassy suites I'm sure that says

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 they didn't hear somewhere Monday May 22nd Convention Center from four to seven there

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 were about a hundred plus people that showed up over time right it's a come and go meet

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 and greet the overwhelming majority of the questions we're getting is where is it going

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 to be and how long is it going to take to get built that we do have some folks are specifically

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 concerned about alignments that are bringing up that issue but for the for the most intent

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 everybody understands the need for the road and what I would like to do probably on our

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 next mobility meeting is include a second photograph of this area because people think

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 we're building the outer loop to attract development and what we have is a picture that shows this

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 same area with all of the approved developments that are fixing to come out of the ground

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 those that are in process that are about to be approved and those that are rolling into

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 the process and they're color-coded and there's not any hardly any white left between thirty

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 five and the county line it's just it's staggering the numbers that you see in this area and

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 so we're not building nobody's trying to get a loop road put here because we want to

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 attract development the developments coming and there is no infrastructure for those people

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 so we're rolling for a summer of 2026 environmental clearance and the reason it's taking that

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 long is because this is a full-on environmental impact statement as opposed to an environmental

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 assessment which is a lower level clearance we're doing the highest level of clearance

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 that you can elmond locus this is where i get to turn it over to my boss so i'm sorry

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 i just got choked a minute ago but elmond locus so we met with the state and with textile

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 and also the county and john last week and we are working through we've agreed to the

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 pavement cross-section textile is working through their design and this is all for the

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 portions that are south of hickory that you see color-coded on the map they are going

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 to be working through taking that to the next step which is getting the funding associated

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 with it they're also working through an agreement that we'll have to go to austin for approval

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 for us to turn back the roadway to the state from the state to the city i'm sorry i have

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 asked um amanda miller when she comes to make her presentation at the council meeting on

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 june 6th to be prepared to give you all more specific guidelines and timelines so you have

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 those answers we get questions on that periodically i know you do too and so being able to address

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 those questions and concerns on the southern portion on the northern portion we're currently

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 working through an ica with the county for the funding we received as a um and i know

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 you're going to ask me that it's not on the top of my head john what what an ica i can't

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 think of the interlocal cooperation agreement operation i couldn't think of the c people

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 call it ila but they've never read the the statute it's an interlocal cooperation agreement

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 there is a c in there thank you for helping i'm sorry i i couldn't remember the c on the

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 top of my head appreciate it so we're working through that with the county we're going to

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 bring that forward it'll come through council um and that's for the first phase of our funding

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 to start the design of the alman locust cross section from 380 um to right around the downtown

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 area right around oak area um and we already have the funding uh approved in the budget

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 for the water wastewater improvements um and then as a part of the bond package for november

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 it has some additional improvements that are a part of the drainage in that area um and

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 so kind of that collaboration of all of those things together but we've already been meeting

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 with john and his team um through the county process and so that'll be coming forward here

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 in the next few uh weeks as part of a council meeting so progress um anxious to get a copy

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 of the agreement i've already asked for the draft copy of the agreement for the turn back

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 so that our legal team can go ahead and start assessing that um there's currently another

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 city going through the same process um which is the city of grand prairie and so they're

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 working through some of those logistics and that'll be the template that's used our ultimate

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 goal will be to take over elman locust from eagle to 380 as a city roadway so um working

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 through that process and and i'll tell you tex dot is just as interested as getting the

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 southern portion completed as we are interested in them getting it completed um so they want

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 to have that roadway reconstructed they agreed to the roadway cross section the design and

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 we are evaluating if there's any improvements that can be made from a city perspective to

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 sidewalks or ada concerns um just because that's not included in the product part of

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 the project so you may see something coming back forward through the cip process that

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 says we'd like to go ahead and add this because it makes sense to do it all at once um so

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 that'll come through the cip process but definitely move in in the right direction um and i know

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 amanda is very aware that that'll possibly be a question that comes up on her june 6th

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 presentation so i've had her prepare for that all right thank you absolutely did you have

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 any questions glossary of acronyms there it is we're going to have a test on these yes

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 there's the ica right there if i just would have had it open i couldn't remember the c

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 interlogal cooperative agreement thank you john all right i don't know should i leave

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 it you're good no worries you're doing no worries awesome thank you sir thank you john

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 okay well then we're going to move on to mc two three dash zero one four receive a report

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 hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding moving the mobility committee meeting

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 time from 10 till 11 absolutely so as you can see from the calendar we only have a few

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 dates left we have the june 28th july 26th august 23rd september 27th october 25th november

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 29th and december 20th meetings left so um we have substantial i guess we're halfway

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 there maybe for as far as the calendar year goes um and so um we know there may be additional

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 committee members that join your team um when those types of situations go through the process

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 um through the council one of the thoughts that had been brought up or conversations

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 that had been brought up in the past was moving the meeting from 10 a.m to 11 a.m and we did

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 check with the room checked with billy from as far as broadcasting etc that time frame

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 is available so this action item really for you is just to give us direction as to whether

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 you'd like for us to move from 10 to 11 um or if you're comfortable with staying at 10

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 we have no preference either way we'll be here for you we just would like your direction

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 madam chair if i could i probably would like to at least withdraw or postpone this request

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 and i think the request really came from me only because you're right in a month or so

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 the mobility committee may be comprised of different members so i think that's the time

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 if anybody wants to change anything because i may or may not still be here so if i if

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 it's being changed because of an impact to me i think we need to postpone that absolutely

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 and i can work around it until we see how everything flushes out so sure yeah that is

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 no problem at all we're happy to do so and we'll bring this back forward to see if there's

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 any updates that need to be made and i don't have timing on all of that i know the city

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 secretary's office is working through those logistics so i know that's upcoming i know

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 we've been communicating with them so i would anticipate it possibly might be july or august

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 before that time frame happens so i know we're going to get to a point where we don't have

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 a lot of council meetings here in the upcoming due to this summer in the retreats etc so

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 awesome okay well then we can hold off on that item and we won't take any direction

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 for that okay and uh so we'll move to mc 23 day zero one six staff memorandum awesome

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 so i have trevor crane our director of capital projects who's going to come and give you

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 updates on both of these okay good morning everyone good morning so we'll go through

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 some updates here um bonnie beret street um so the temporary pavement that um that construction

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 or that fix that we were talking about the last couple of times that have that has been

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 completed temporary pavement is all down so um between i-35 and scripture is open to traffic

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 and fully completed um bonnie beret phase three i won't go through all this again but

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 uh it was re-advertised and is actually opening this afternoon so um fingers crossed we've

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 uh we did get a lot of traffic on that on that um bid um i think we got four or five

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 um contractors that were looking at it and they were all new contractors so we're hoping

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 that that comes back in um at a better cost so i'll know more this afternoon um bonnie

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 beret phase six i think last time we talked we talked about us acquiring that last uh

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 parcel that we were looking for so we have everything we need um now we're working with

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 text dot to get the state letter of authority that will allow us to um move that out to

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 bid so that's what we're working at um working at now um and as soon as we get that we'll

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 be putting that out on the street for bid um and bonnie beret three and six both have

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 a two-year construction timeline um bonnie up uh since bonnie beret phase three is opening

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 today that one's probably going to move a little faster than six um but we're hoping

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 around quarter three of 2025 and then probably six a little later than that so hickory creek

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 road phase three um really nothing to report here everything's moving forward we're dealing

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 with a couple of utility issues but um really nothing that should impact the timeline of

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 that project at this point um so it's moving forward um looking at a estimated completion

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 of quarter one of 2025 um and that's i have a question of hickory creek yes ma'am road

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 um i know that is a winding road is that right yes ma'am is this project going to improve

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 so what it does be so tight yeah so we're actually getting rid of that all that those

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 curves we're putting a bridge over hickory creek so from um brush creek all the way to

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 country club road i believe um it's going to be a a bridge that goes over that roadway

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 and actual hickory creek as it is now hickory creek road will not be accessible to traffic

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 okay all right thank you yes ma'am did you know that they're gonna put a bridge over

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 there it's tight over it's a pretty big bridge yeah all right thank you and that's all i

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 have all right thank you very much thank you trevor yeah trevor has a really cool video

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 that shows that entire bridge what it's gonna what it looked like before and what it's gonna

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 look like so that's a really um i like the rendering it's something that we are talking

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 about doing more with all of our projects because it's really hard to visualize what's

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 going to what it's going to look like when it's completed so it's a really cool video

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 um that was shown during the council meeting but i know it's been a little while since

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 then so okay so last thing we have is just future items for consideration um for us to

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 bring back to you as part of the staff memorandum so bonnie bray we're giving you the bonnie

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 bray and hickory creek road updates monthly um ryan we're not doing anything until um

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 we get closer i think i know we've mentioned this before but ryan's on hold um as we move

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 through completing hickory creek phase three since they're both the only really true east

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 west corridors that are substantial um in those areas um the text dot citywide speed

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 study limit change um the portion um that text dot is actually reviewing brett has had

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 several conversations back and forth with text dot recently um they've asked for some

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 updated maps now they're asking for mile markers of the locations so we've made quite a few

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 back and forth with some maps and working on completing all of those and getting those

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 all submitted over to them so um the speed study that we did they wanted graphical representations

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 of actually the locations of which we did the speed studies so brett's i think he's

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 had several he's shaken his head yes several back and forth um emails i've seen kind of

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 the email trail back and forth we don't have an estimated time frame on when that's going

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 to be completed but i'm just working to try to make sure we meet all the requirements

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 that they're requesting of us so i have a question for that yes ma'am have we actually

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 i've seen some new fresh signs yes ma'am um and they're wanting to know where each one of those

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 signs are located or i mean which streets changed no ma'am we have not had the so we have not had

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 the ability to make any of the modifications we recommend on the textile roadways within the city

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 of denton because they formally own the roadway so um james has made all the updates to all of the

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 signs that were done that were city roadways james andrews who's our traffic operations manager

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 he and his team have already swapped out all of the signs um and that includes the school zone

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 signs that needed to be updated but the textile roadways specifically the updates cannot be made

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 until they're in agreement or have something that they would like for us to modify have additional

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 questions so we anticipate that's going to take a little time to work through that so

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 any modification to a speed limit sign in textile right away or that is on their roadways

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 it's going to be some time until we work through this whole process

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 did you have a question again you have one question yes sir

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 on the i think the report was your turn your mic on yeah it's okay the uh the uh

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 you're reletting the bonnie bray i forgot the phase number from rose lawn to 35 what phase is that

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 uh rose lawn to 35 is three three okay yes so that's being relet or open or being submitted

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 or they're submitting the bid today is something open today the bid is open yeah okay so what's

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 the timeline from for that so is it you get them in how long is it held out for what's the if it's

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 if it's open today so it typically takes a couple of months for us to work through the process so

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 as soon as the bid's open we go through all of the bid evaluations um i believe this was

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 one was done competitive sale proposal okay all right cool and that's also due to the council

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 schedule so yeah um the summer schedule sometimes i know y'all get very packed agendas but it's

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 because there's only a couple of meetings during the the summer months but um i would anticipate

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 we're having a pre-con with that contractor probably august so as soon as the council gets

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 approves the contract then we would move forward with um getting the pre-construction meeting held

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 having that contractor get on board and then moving forward through the process help me

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 understand some some some terms because i think i'm a little confused so when you say the bid is

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 opening today that means people can submit yes today so or is that they're being open today

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 because they have submitted no they do not submit until but it's opening the bid so about 30

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 so about 30 days ago 35 days ago is when we put everything on the street for everyone to review

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 and and and turn in their bids today we're at we're actually opening the bids to see how much

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 gotcha and then what what we'll do is that will give us we'll open those submittals um i believe

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 it was competitive sale proposal so we'll have a team that goes through those submittals we'll

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 look at all the contractors um all their the paperwork they turned in all those types of

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 things and then we'll grade it out we'll grade it out and then we'll bring it to council with

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 whoever was the the time so you'll know pretty quickly if hopefully that we'll know the changes

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 you put in place brought things down to a little more manageable level we'll notice today it's

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 going to be like uh-oh this really didn't change much and so correct we got to figure something

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 out yeah we'll know that today okay i think what we're saying is if um if it did bring it down and

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 we find a contractor we want to move forward to then it takes us about two or three months to

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 go through all the paperwork and then get it on council to approve that contract but if not then

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 you bring back the same thing you did before and you go we reject all bids and we'll have to look

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 at it and determine yeah maybe this is just the maybe this is just the real cost of it and that's

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 what we have to do so yeah appreciate the clarification thank you no problem you know it

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 sounds like opening the bid sounds like you're putting it out there opening the bid literally

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 means opening the envelope and correct and looking at it correct so once the project is ready to go

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 to bid we advertise which is the advertisement which is typically 30 days whatever so today we're

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 physically opening those right sorry for the confusion interpreted both ways we're going to

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 open the bid out well and i'll tell you you bring up a very valid point some of the things that our

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 team's been thinking about is we are so ingrained to a lot of these terminologies and processes that

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 we use is how um in our next construction guide or even a presentation to council we can talk through

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 the life cycle of a project and then when you get into construction what temporary payment means

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 versus what permanent payment the life cycle of a project there too because that we get a lot of

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 questions that and so do you so we'd like to help educate so um and we don't have answers you know

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 that are always great from a time frame perspective but we always do our best to try to make sure those

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 construction schedules are as short as possible um because of my background in education i will

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 tell you that the uh the level of reading and learning is on sixth grade level for the entire

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 country for sure so anything that you all are putting out there or we everybody is putting out

409
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 there we need to speak as simply as we possibly can absolutely to capture everyone in so absolutely

410
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 we're even working to implement that as a part of our pre-construction meetings we're doing with

411
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 you know people and many times for example on bunny berry face three they may have no idea what's

412
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 under the street and there's a lot of infrastructure underneath our roadways so just trying to help

413
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 educate and explain um and really it helps tell the why so right looking forward to those upcoming

414
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 conversations um i have the answer to um so i've updated you and given you the answer on the city

415
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 wide speed study um i think the other two items that came up from february one was evaluating the

416
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 ita's uh presentation schedule i think we talked about did it need to be on a different time frame

417
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:14,520
 i think councilmember bird you mentioned that you would like to still see it every month it was

418
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 something that you enjoyed i know you were okay with it so we were just going to ask if you had

419
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 any additional questions or comments on that or if we could remove that request from the agenda matrix

420
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 and continue with it being monthly okay and then um resident construction updates we brought that

421
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 forward in february so we're just requesting to also uh remove that so we'll continue to give you

422
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 the bonnie bray and hickory creek and then at such time we have information to share on ryan road or

423
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 citywide speed study we'll bring that forward and this now opens up the time for if you have

424
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 anything additional that you'd like for us to bring forward at the next mobility committee meeting

425
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:59,880
 on june 27th you have anything i actually have something but i forgot what it was i should write

426
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 it down i've been doing that lately um okay i don't have anything okay well if you think of it later

427
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,880
 no problem at all so awesome well then oh yes i did have a question yes this is what it was about

428
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 the bicycle the uh the what are those called those white ballots yes the ballots i just see the

429
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 ballots in certain locations is that project rolling out or are we still in a testing phase

430
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 as to which which locations correct and also about the employee that we lost uh moved to florida

431
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 the gentleman um that was here for a little while i think it was working on the biking and you know

432
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 correct transportation part tell me a little bit about where we are on on that particular um project

433
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 so been with those things that we can answer or should we bring those back at the next agenda

434
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:03,000
 at the next next time okay so next meeting we can bring you back as a status update of some of the

435
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 most recent things that we've deployed and then also an update on the hiring of the bike pad we'll

436
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 have brett make those presentations okay that'd be great absolutely all righty then that is

437
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 everything and we'll add those two things to our agenda and be prepared for you next month

438
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,800
 okay do we have any more any concluding items did you have anything okay well i don't have any uh

439
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 thing additional to add uh so we will close the meeting at 10 is that 10 45 uh am this morning

440
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 thank you thank you thank you