WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.760 All right hello everyone and welcome to the sustainability framework advisory 00:00:08.760 --> 00:00:14.660 committee. It is Friday April 28th and it is one o'clock. We are in the City 00:00:14.660 --> 00:00:21.600 Council work session room and we will we do have a quorum and we will begin with 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.900 our first item for individual consideration. Consider approval of the 00:00:25.900 --> 00:00:37.360 March 24th 2023 minutes. And everybody good? Ed? I'm good. Okay all right and in 00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:42.720 motion? Yeah comments? Oh yeah go ahead. Yeah there are a few items that I didn't 00:00:42.720 --> 00:00:48.960 see reflected. I made an inquiry into incentivizing solar battery walls all 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.800 like California. I don't know maybe I erased it two meetings ago. It's not the 00:00:52.800 --> 00:01:00.880 minutes but it's also not the matrix. I also note member it's so fast that we see 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:07.800 what the plan is to incorporate solar rebate grandfathering and for that to 00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:11.160 come back to us several of us voted for the recommendation on the basis that we 00:01:11.160 --> 00:01:17.560 see that or that that be included. I also asked that we discuss meeting twice a 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.160 month to make more progress toward actually getting some sustainability 00:01:20.160 --> 00:01:25.920 tactics on the ground and I don't see that in the matrix either. So not in the 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.960 minutes nor in the matrix. 00:01:28.960 --> 00:01:36.360 So do we need to add those into the minutes before they're approved to make an 00:01:36.360 --> 00:01:47.000 amendment? Is that acceptable? Okay so I offer the friendly amendment to include 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:53.120 or to reflect in the minutes that in the matrix we include an inquiry into 00:01:53.120 --> 00:02:00.160 incentivizing solar battery walls as well as that we see the solar rebate come 00:02:00.160 --> 00:02:04.580 back to us reflecting a plan for grandfathering and that we have a 00:02:04.580 --> 00:02:09.480 discussion on meeting twice a month to make more progress. That's what was said 00:02:09.480 --> 00:02:12.120 prior to the meeting that weren't reflected so we just want to make those 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:18.200 reflected in the minutes. I'd like to second the motion with the amendments with the additional 00:02:18.200 --> 00:02:23.000 comment that we've made a bit of a huffle in the past about the limitedness 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.440 that were reflected in the minutes and it does have a lot more detail than in 00:02:26.440 --> 00:02:30.000 previous meetings so that's that's really awesome to see that reflected both in 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:38.680 the video as well as the minutes. Okay so all in favor of the minutes with 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:50.080 these amendments? Okay so we will put that in and move to item B, receive a 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:54.200 report, hold a discussion on the Denton Water Utilities long-range plans 00:02:54.200 --> 00:03:02.120 addressing sustainability measures that also account for future growth. And we have Steve from 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:10.200 Denton Water Utilities with us today. And we are using the mics up here, not this one here. 00:03:10.200 --> 00:03:20.240 That's better. And if you would just say your name again. Yes I'm Stephen Gay, I'm the director of water utilities for the city of Denton. 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:31.840 Thank you guys, thanks for inviting me to discuss our long-term master plans. We've got a few in the hopper. Right now we're working on our wastewater master plan and then we have 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.480 another one right behind that called the comprehensive, it's the one water master plan. 00:03:35.480 --> 00:03:41.680 And that is, it compiles several different master plan efforts in one 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:46.920 initiative. We're looking at updating our 2018 water master plan so it's at the 00:03:46.920 --> 00:03:50.880 infrastructure that we need moving forward. We're looking at a comprehensive 00:03:50.880 --> 00:03:55.880 water supply plan. We're looking at a reclaimed water master plan. We're 00:03:55.880 --> 00:03:59.440 looking at a conservation, updating our conservation plan and doing our drought 00:03:59.440 --> 00:04:06.880 management plan. So in you'd say one water, you said where's storm water? Well storm water was left out 00:04:06.880 --> 00:04:11.640 intentionally it falls in another business unit and they were 00:04:11.640 --> 00:04:18.640 already moving forward with the master plan that we started. So we're here to talk about how those master plans can 00:04:18.640 --> 00:04:25.720 intersect with sustainability. So in the conservation plan we're going to be 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:32.080 looking at plumbing code reduction so we can reduce the per capita per day 00:04:32.080 --> 00:04:38.680 consumption. We're also looking at reduced water loss and through features 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:44.160 say. So the leak detection technology is advanced significantly in the industry 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:49.000 and so we have the ability to deploy throughout our distribution system 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.200 listening devices that can actually hear water leaking through a pipe and we can 00:04:53.200 --> 00:04:57.760 detect leaks before they emerge as a break and so getting those crews to 00:04:57.760 --> 00:05:01.420 respond proactively and fixing those leaks before we lose all that water is 00:05:01.420 --> 00:05:07.600 one of the strategies we'll be looking into. The efficient irrigation systems being more 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:15.840 deliberate with our landscape audits and developing a program to help replace 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:20.120 controllers and to update them to something more sophisticated they can 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:25.040 they can actually detect when it's just rained or the soil the moisture of the 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.040 soil doesn't need the sprinklers to come on right away and then incentivizing 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:35.280 incentivizing low-demand landscape you know encouraging more that Texas 00:05:35.280 --> 00:05:40.600 native landscaping and developing a program where we're evaluating those 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.280 programs to see if it'll be successful here to where the utility will help fund 00:05:44.280 --> 00:05:49.320 turf replacement for residents that want to convert their lawns to more 00:05:49.320 --> 00:05:53.720 of a Xerox cave and then finally within the conservation time we're working 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:59.080 closely with the sustainability team to put in place an ordinance that actually 00:05:59.080 --> 00:06:04.240 dictates conservation. Right now to my knowledge we're the only utility 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:09.120 within the DFW area that doesn't have water restrictions on certain times of the year. 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:16.560 So we're going to be looking at that and developing that ordinance and codifying it. 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:23.600 So that reclaimed the reuse master plan that I discussed a little earlier it's 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.480 we want to capitalize on the plan so right now we have an authorization from 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:33.720 TCEQ so that's the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to reuse six 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:37.600 million gallons a day of our effluent from concrete which is our waste water 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:44.440 treatment facility. Currently we only reuse about one-tenth of that flow and so 00:06:44.440 --> 00:06:49.400 we have four customers on the system and that's what this plan is going to look at. 00:06:49.400 --> 00:06:54.080 So what's the opportunity? If we have a pipeline going down a certain road is 00:06:54.080 --> 00:06:57.920 there a city facility there? Is there a park there? Is there something that we 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:03.320 could convert their landscaping from potable water over to reclaimed water? 00:07:03.320 --> 00:07:08.320 Same thing with commercial use doing the same thing and then we'll be working 00:07:08.320 --> 00:07:12.960 with our business partners over at Development Services again after we have 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:17.640 a master plan and it kind of lines these things out to develop an ordinance that 00:07:17.640 --> 00:07:21.320 requires connection to the reclaim system when it's within a certain 00:07:21.320 --> 00:07:23.440 distance of a new development. 00:07:23.440 --> 00:07:29.080 Is there any insight on why that is so low of a percentage right now? 00:07:29.080 --> 00:07:36.960 Well so I've been I've been with the city for about two years now and from what I can tell is the 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:41.600 the organization didn't really realize what they had when they developed it and 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:46.400 didn't put a lot of investment into expanding the system. They had one 00:07:46.400 --> 00:07:51.680 customer which is the Oakmont College Force within Brooklyn which is their primary user 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:59.200 and then the city's landfill is another one of our big users on that system and the Spencer Power Plant. 00:07:59.200 --> 00:08:05.900 So that's my that's my guess and then that again that we talked about the 00:08:05.900 --> 00:08:11.600 ordinance that will require connection with when those services aren't close. 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:16.160 So one of the things we're also going to look at in our water supply plan, 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.400 comprehensive water supply plan, is there an opportunity for us to recharge the aquifer? 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:26.560 So they have a TCEQ has an authorization for what they call ASR aquifer 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.240 storage and recovery which will give us the opportunity to actually take 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.680 effluent or treated water because you have to treat it to drinking water 00:08:33.680 --> 00:08:39.960 standards before you inject it into the groundwater. Then you have an accounting 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.600 plan so we put in this much we get to take out this much at a later date. 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.920 That's what we're looking at at developing. So we would be doing a 00:08:46.920 --> 00:08:50.820 feasibility study as part of the master planning effort and then we'll be 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:56.560 evaluating our previous well we had about 19 wells throughout our system 00:08:56.560 --> 00:09:04.520 before we converted from groundwater to a surface water source. So is there a 00:09:04.520 --> 00:09:08.320 question on that? You want to wait until the end? Yeah well I have yeah I'm just 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:16.160 writing it down. Then again this is part is this this dovetails our 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:19.400 comprehensive water supply plan dovetails into our reclaimed water master 00:09:19.400 --> 00:09:25.840 plan from the perspective of utilizing direct potable reuse as a source. So 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:31.600 technology is advanced significantly in the treatment of wastewater to where we 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.640 can treat it above and beyond actually safe drinking water standards. So we have an 00:09:37.640 --> 00:09:43.120 opportunity to treat at our wastewater treatment facilities using a specific 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:47.760 technology and then blending that water with raw water and then sending it into 00:09:47.760 --> 00:09:53.440 a potable water treatment facility for final treatment. So essentially we 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.920 extend our water supply. We make something that's a little bit more drought 00:09:56.920 --> 00:10:01.400 resilient and that's what we're trying to do with our water supply plan is 00:10:01.400 --> 00:10:05.320 create some a portfolio that is more climate resilient so we have a bunch of 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:10.440 different buckets so we can pull out of when when we start to see when we start 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:16.520 to see depreciating I guess the depleting resources within our surface 00:10:16.520 --> 00:10:21.600 water source if that makes sense. And then also we're going to be evaluating is 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.760 there any opportunity for us to send the treated effluent obviously to water 00:10:25.760 --> 00:10:29.920 drinking water quality standards to a natural buffer or wetland and then 00:10:29.920 --> 00:10:32.600 recover it later. 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:53.960 Okay yeah sure. What's the state of processing capacity need and where it 00:10:53.960 --> 00:11:01.080 intersects you know the state of projected demand versus the state of 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:06.080 processing capacity. I remember about five years ago it was projected that 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.560 there'd be something like a hundred million dollar plant needed in ten years 00:11:09.560 --> 00:11:12.080 that'd be five years from now but I know some steps have been happening in the 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:17.520 inner. Are we facing a pinch point process? I would say that we're at a pinch point right now 00:11:17.520 --> 00:11:21.840 that's what the master plan is identifying. So we have as part of our 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:26.120 CIP our capital improvement planning we're looking at constructing some 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:34.240 additional treatment facilities to help manage the growth and the additional 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.520 flows that we're seeing coming into the system. Does that answer your question? 00:11:38.520 --> 00:11:45.120 Dollar amount to be funded how? We're currently undergoing the master 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.240 planning piece of that and so we don't have any refined numbers at this point. 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:53.040 There was something like a hundred million dollars and they're still talking about that same order of magnitude? 00:11:53.040 --> 00:12:01.440 With what we're seeing post-COVID with supply chain issues and labor issues and 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:06.360 materials we would see I would expect to see those numbers escalated beyond that. 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:13.920 Okay so all the more reason to reduce demand. To reduce responsibly reduce 00:12:13.920 --> 00:12:24.680 indoor well actually our biggest use on the system is outdoor irrigation. It counts for about 75 to 80% of demand on the system. 00:12:24.680 --> 00:12:34.920 Do you want to get through each person's questions or one one one one? I can get her name I had great 00:12:34.920 --> 00:12:39.880 conversations at UNT. I happened to meet the professor there who is employed by 00:12:39.880 --> 00:12:50.480 the city of Dallas to do a grade school education on water conservation and 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:56.040 she's you know quite quantitative and will make the case that you could do as 00:12:56.040 --> 00:13:02.400 much with educating younger people who will have a bigger impact in 10 years as 00:13:02.400 --> 00:13:09.600 affecting irrigation. Kind of a big claim especially given what you just said. Are you 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:18.080 creative with her? Would you like me to make an introduction? I'm not familiar with her and I guess you could go through Catherine. 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:24.360 Is it Dr. Thompson still? Say again? Dr. Thompson. If you told me her nickname her first name that's it. 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:34.480 You know her? Okay. But you know claims pretty powerful success with that program. Okay. 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:43.120 Yeah thank you for your presentation. That was one of my questions. I'm kind of 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:48.280 missing the big picture so what is so it sounds like your goals are lower per 00:13:48.280 --> 00:13:55.480 capita water usage increased drought slash climate resiliency. So I'm 00:13:55.480 --> 00:14:01.360 wondering on the per capita water usage can you tell us what it is now how that's 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:16.000 changed over the years? I can tell you what the per capita use is currently. I think at its peak it was roughly 175 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:24.760 gallons per day per individual and that was in 2011. Our lowest was in 2021 which 00:14:24.760 --> 00:14:32.640 was just above 130 gallons per capita per day. In 2022 it was an anomaly we had an 00:14:32.640 --> 00:14:36.880 extremely aggressive year with irrigation and that number popped up to 00:14:36.880 --> 00:14:45.720 about 150 gallons per capita. What was the last year I'm sorry? Last year was 150 sir. 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:52.400 How do those numbers stack up against other cities? That's part of the 00:14:52.400 --> 00:14:59.280 evaluation we were well within our targets in our conservation plan so we 00:14:59.280 --> 00:15:10.400 can get back to you if you like to see a comparison with other cities within the region. That's pretty easy for us. 00:15:10.400 --> 00:15:24.800 You mentioned was kind of offhand of depleting resources. This ties into kind of your projections. What are the 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:33.920 projections not not about uses but for a lot of resources in the region? Do you all have forecasts? 00:15:33.920 --> 00:15:43.800 Well we own resources within Lake Ray Roberts and Lake Lewisville. Those permits are extremely complicated. 00:15:43.800 --> 00:15:50.480 So we have what we call a fermule which is when lakes are down into conservation pools and when they're extremely low. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:55.840 We have a very limited amount of water that we can draw from both Lewisville and Ray Roberts. 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:02.720 But when they're spilling as they are now and they have been for the last several years we have an abundance 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:11.320 of resources within those surface water lakes or reservoirs. And that's why we feel the urgency now 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:20.680 to develop plans to diversify our water portfolio so we can have different buckets to pull from should we experience that. 00:16:20.680 --> 00:16:26.520 So my experience is primarily from the west. So I worked for the city of Las Vegas for about 17 years 00:16:26.520 --> 00:16:34.560 and Long Beach California for about four. And so I'm very very familiar with drought and drought management in the United States. 00:16:34.560 --> 00:16:40.920 So we're trying to be very proactive in developing those resources before we meet those resources. 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:44.920 Thank you for the answer. You know, right, thank you. 00:16:44.920 --> 00:16:48.920 Brad? 00:16:48.920 --> 00:16:56.040 Yeah I just have a handful of questions but I guess primarily the listed agenda topics about accounting for 00:16:56.040 --> 00:17:00.080 future growth and I guess I just didn't see a ton of projections in your slides. 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.080 Could you profile what that projected demand in population growth are for you? 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:09.080 I can show you what we're looking at. So this is very subjective, right? 00:17:09.080 --> 00:17:15.080 So we look at the land use, comprehensive land use plan. We work with our development services 00:17:15.080 --> 00:17:22.480 and we see what the trends are right now. So right now, based off of a couple of factors, 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.480 so we have a lot of municipal utility districts along the 380 that are moving forward. 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:36.480 That have an interest in potentially municipal services, not just water and wastewater but other services. 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:41.480 We have the 100 coal, which is a development that's been approved. 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.480 That's moving forward and then we have to start standard growth, right? 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:53.480 And all of that together is projected over the next five years to be roughly eight percent is what we're saying. 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.480 Eight? 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:58.480 Eight, yes sir. 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.480 And those are the preliminary numbers that the consultant has provided. 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:07.480 They still have to go back and refine them. They're going to be doing some more analysis of it. 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.480 But that's the preliminary numbers. 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.480 Do you mind if I ask a question on that question? 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:13.480 Sure. 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:21.480 So on future growth, so if we do the eight percent increase in the current business as usual for our water supply, 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:27.480 like how do you see that playing out? Like how long is that sustainable? 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:32.480 Well if we do, if we do, well, so I'm going to understand your question. 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:39.480 If we don't do all the conservation and we don't start doing these things to save water while we have it, 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:45.480 the growth rate and if we're in a drought, like how long is our business as usual sustainable 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.480 if we don't start implementing all of these other, these other ideas? 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:56.480 Yeah, I think that that's a really good question and I'd have to go back and ask some people smarter than me to give me that answer. 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.480 Okay. 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.480 I can tell you that conservation is a very key component of our water supply plan. 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:09.480 And that's why it's included in the water mix report. 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.480 Just a couple other more, almost recommendations I suppose. 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:19.480 So I love a lot of what you have in here and it looks like you're really taking that past experience 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:25.480 in those water-limited municipalities and bringing that here, which is fantastic because we've heard from previous presentations 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:31.480 that drought and increased heat days are kind of those projected future impacts for our city. 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:37.480 I know that like xeriscaping for example on your slide two is a real fun buzzword for lawn replacement. 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:45.480 I just, in Las Vegas it's something like two inches or so a year in precipitation and here we get anywhere from 30 to 55 sometimes. 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:51.480 I'm just curious if, as a future recommendation as you develop that plan, if that can look at lawn alternatives 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.480 and not strictly those xeriscapes type environments. 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.480 Yeah, I appreciate that. We use that because it is a very common terminology. 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:05.480 One of the things that we intend on doing is as we develop additional treatment capacity, 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:13.480 we're going to, we have a vision or a plan long-term to incorporate some type of demonstration garden 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:20.480 that will show customers different alternatives. So it's not just xeriscape and so it's all kinds of other alternatives. 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:25.480 So ultimately we'll have a location that a resident can go through, walk through, 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:30.480 kind of almost like the catable garden where they can look at it and say hey, wow I really like that planting, 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:37.480 I really like that. You're telling me that this is a water-wise vegetation? Awesome. 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.480 And then we can help them incorporate that into the landscape. 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:48.480 I know that AgriLife in Dallas has some really interesting resources over that and in the city of Austin I think also does those cool classifications 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:54.480 on different landscape use plants because they have similar concerns for water usage in their irrigation system as well. 00:20:54.480 --> 00:21:03.480 Thank you for the history too on the per capita gallons per day. That was really helpful and one of my questions. 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:09.480 The other one on the groundwater banking, I think the last I had heard is something like 70% of municipalities 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:17.480 in the Trinity Aquifer use surface water. So I'm not sure if you're familiar or maybe you could help us understand, 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:23.480 would there be any potential competition between other municipalities moving toward that groundwater use? 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:29.480 I understand you said like a banking system where we deposit from our allocations into a groundwater recharge, 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.480 but obviously that's shared broadly across the region, how would that? 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:39.480 Yeah and that's going to, it's sort of a more complicated answer than I'm going to give you right now. 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:46.480 We foresee it as being a regional partnership with the city of Dallas and Fort Worth as we develop these types of plants. 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:52.480 So we're looking at it, we're not just looking at it from Denton's perspective, we're looking at it from that more comprehensive view. 00:21:52.480 --> 00:22:01.480 How can we best leverage our assets? Because Lake Lewisville and Lake Ray Roberts are jointly owned by the city of Dallas and the city of Fort Worth. 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:10.480 And so that's really one of our biggest business partners and we have the most opportunity to leverage that relationship in developing that ASL program. 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:17.480 So you see this as more of a kind of a regional partnership where maybe we're not uplifting a lot of this infrastructure? 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:24.480 Not all of it, but what we do have is we have access to a lot of raw water while the lakes are high 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:31.480 and we have a lot of treatment capacity to refine it to a point where we can inject it into the groundwater table. 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:35.480 So that makes us, it gives us a competitive edge. 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:41.480 That was all of my questions, but I really just wanted to emphasize that I appreciate your future forward thinking 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:49.480 in these sorts of plans for especially taking advantage of the assets that we do have sometimes in abundance and sometimes at a dearth. 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:54.480 It sounds like you're moving in a really great direction. 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.480 I'm going to skip for now and go to Ed. 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:06.480 Yeah, pardon me. So you say the master plan is going to extend out 50 years? 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:15.480 Well, we look at 50 years, then we come back to 25, then we come back to 10, and then we really kind of try to concentrate on the 5. 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:25.480 Okay, that makes sense. And so would that mean that there would be designated intermediate steps and timelines 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:32.480 for the implementation of particular aspects of the plan? 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:39.480 Depends. So what we typically do is we'll do that long-term master plan and we'll look that 50 years out 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:45.480 and we kind of dial it back into that 5-year plan and then we get midway through the 5-year plan, like in year 3, 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:52.480 we initiate another plan, right, where we go back and we check those assumptions for year 10 further out and we double-check. 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:59.480 So we kind of, we continually refine the plan as we move forward through the plan, if that makes any sense. 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:05.480 And does that refinement include the possibility of, I would assume would include possibilities 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:11.480 of having ordinances enacted to, rather than just verbiage? 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:12.480 Yes, sir. 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:18.480 Yeah. Great. And when will this plan be completed? 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:29.480 Well, the Wastewater Master Plan, we're going to be giving a presentation to City Council on, let's say, the first part of April, PV and then City Council. 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:37.480 It's not for approval yet, it's just a touch base with them to let them know this is where we're at and this is what we're seeing. 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:43.480 We anticipate by the end of the year that that plan should be finalized and prepared for council approval. 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:50.480 The One Water Master Plan just kicked off, I'd say about three months ago, so we're just getting started. 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.480 It's three to six months just getting started with that plan. 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.480 Would there be any opportunities to bring us up to date? 00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:58.480 Of course. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:24:59.480 Yeah, great. 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.480 If Michael just reached out to me, I'd be happy to come and chat with him. 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:07.480 Okay, just a couple of other things. 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:13.480 You said that 80% of the drinkable water is used for yard irrigation? 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.480 About 70 to 80%, yeah. Outdoor use, yes. 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:19.480 Is that considered excessive or normal? 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:31.480 It's actually normal. So in the Las Vegas Valley area, it was 75 to 85% until they got really aggressive with their conservation efforts and they curtailed it, but it's pretty common. 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:45.480 Yeah, the Vegas thing is interesting because that seems to be an instance of a complete removal of precaution and having to just suddenly, oh my God, look at the lake. 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.480 At least that's the impression that I... 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.480 Yeah, and having worked there, I might have a little bit... 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:52.480 I'm sure that's why I'm asking. 00:25:52.480 --> 00:26:01.480 I know that the general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority and Las Vegas Valley Water Authority were very forward-looking on that. 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.480 They actually had projects that lowered their intakes. 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:12.480 They actually worked with the farmers up north and purchased a bunch of ranch land so they could tap into groundwater. 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:18.480 They designed conveyance systems from northern Nevada down to southern Nevada. 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:34.480 Doug Bennett, who worked for Southern Nevada Water Authority, was a conservation manager, and he started an entire conference called Waterwise and really changed the approach to conservation. 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:49.480 So case in point, if you walk down the Las Vegas Strip and you see the fountains in front of a lodge, you think, well, that's just a huge waste of water. That's probably the most efficient system in the nation with regards to recycled water. 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:50.480 Good to know. Thank you. 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.480 You're very welcome. 00:26:53.480 --> 00:27:06.480 I would just like to piggyback on what we were talking about, waterwise vegetation or native vegetation. 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:21.480 I see that as when you look at what you mentioned about the hunter coal development and obviously the increase in the use of lawn watering, watering systems and that sort of thing. 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:28.480 It's very, very important that what you said about having a menu to choose from. 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:57.480 Well, that as well as having reclaimed water available for them because part of the hunter coal agreement requires that we build the treatment facility and so we will be designing that facility to have an effluent that can be used for reclaimed and as we install the infrastructure from hunter coal to the treatment facility, we'll also be putting in dual pipeline that can bring reclaimed water back down to that community so they can leverage that. 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:03.480 Will there actually be a treatment center in the hunter coal? 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.480 Not in the hunter coal, no, sir. 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:15.480 We've purchased the birch property over there off of Country Club Road, so it's about a 400 acre parcel and that's what we'll be putting in the treatment facility. 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:21.480 I think that's all I had. 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.480 Thanks for your presentation. 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.480 A couple of different categories. 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.480 Thank you again for the presentation. 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.480 Water is very important to me. 00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:32.480 You too. 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:37.480 Well, I guess 58 years is better than that one. 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:43.480 The first category will be quantitative and I've heard several of these same questions mentioned. 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.480 What are our goals? 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:46.480 Are we in trouble now? 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:52.480 How much do we need to reduce the areas of opportunity? 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:59.480 What does that look like in terms of gallons and then what does that look like in terms of cost to make that happen? 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.480 I wish I could give you a definitive answer on that. 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.480 First of all, I don't think we're in trouble at this moment. 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:11.480 I think that we have enough supply, we have enough resources to manage the growth trend we're seeing currently. 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:20.480 The master planning effort is very important for us because it helps us identify the resources we need to invest in so we can maintain that water security. 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.480 Can we repeat the rest of your question, please? 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:34.480 Well, basically from a quantitative perspective, how many gallons of uses do we need to reduce to hit the target? 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.480 What are the targets? 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:37.480 That's what I'm missing. 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.480 And we're developing that. 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.480 So that's going to be an interactive process. 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.480 We're going to come over and look at industry standards. 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.480 We're going to look at best management practices. 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.480 We're going to look at what TCEQ tells us we need to be doing. 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.480 We're going to be working with our sustainability team. 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:56.480 We're going to say, okay, we've got this recommendation here for a reduction per capita per day. 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.480 We've got this one over here. 00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:58.480 We've got this one over here. 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:02.480 What fits best with our long-term goals and strategies? 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:08.480 And then we'll be bringing that forward for, let's say, concurrence. 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:09.480 Okay. 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.480 And then what would be the associated cost with that to make this happen? 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.480 That really depends. 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.480 We have turf replacement programs, and on the Southern Battle Water Authority, 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:25.480 they probably have a $20 million annual budget that they can be earmarked specifically to turf replacement, 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.480 and that's to defer the construction of capital projects. 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.480 Okay. 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.480 Second category would be partnerships. 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.480 Are we, from an educational perspective, where are my consumer hat now? 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:40.480 Okay. 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.480 Do we have a tremendous amount of money in my water bills, i.e., water usage, 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:50.480 by connecting with a university that I'm drawing up like Texas A&M, I believe, 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:55.480 that helps me manage the amount of water that I irrigate my lawn with? 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.480 Yeah. 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:01.480 Do we have a partnership with the academia? 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:06.480 And how can we do a better job of getting that information out to the consumer? 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:12.480 Because there's a great opportunity for us to reduce the amount of water just through the education. 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:13.480 So that's my question. 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:19.480 Are we connected with that, and is that education to the consumer part of the plan? 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.480 Well, I'm looking over at Katherine, and she's saying that, yes, we do have that connection. 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:29.480 And I will tell you, part of this plan is to look at those irrigation systems. 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.480 I mentioned the controllers and those irrigation audits. 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:39.480 That's exactly what that does, is we invest money into a consultant that we make available to our residents, 00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:43.480 that they'll come out to their home, they'll run their sprinklers, they'll look at them, they'll dial it in, 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.480 they'll say, wait a minute, you've got this kind of head on here, completely the wrong thing, 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.480 this is what you need, this is where you get it, this is how you do it. 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:56.480 And then we're also hoping to, again, earmark some funds that we can then say, 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.480 well, the controller that you're using was built in 1972, and it's not state of the art. 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:09.480 We can offset your costs to upgrade that with one that has a sensor that goes on your gutters, 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:13.480 and it tells you when it's just raining, and it tells your sprinklers not to come on. 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:18.480 Or it tells you, hey, it's raining, and your sprinklers are supposed to come on, we're not going to come on right now. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:29.480 So things like that. So yes on the education, and yes on the fact that we're moving in the direction of providing those resources to our community. 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:35.480 Okay, if I may ask that we make that a matrix item, because it's very important to educate the community. 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:41.480 In my own block, just a block of the block, not water I see from irrigation systems 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.480 that's running down the gutters and into the silvers. 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:50.480 It's raining outside, and it's going on. And the sprinklers are running. There's tremendous opportunity for us in that category. 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:56.480 I'd really like to see us take risks as we can from an educational perspective to educate the community, 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.480 get this information out there, how we can. 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:05.480 Well, and part of that conservation plan is there is a line item, and the scope is to develop literature, 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:12.480 you know, educational materials for that purpose. And we'll be working very closely with our sustainability team to do that. 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.480 Okay, that answers my questions. Thank you very much. 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.480 I'm just a couple. One, I'm just curious if we have a list of water-wise vegetation anywhere on our website. 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:28.480 Like if some, if our homeowners were looking to change their landscape, is there a spot where they can? 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.480 I think it's still on there. I'll have to go dig a little bit and make sure. 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:42.480 I think that would be helpful. And then this is, I'm curious, because you said treated water a few times, and then you said, 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:49.480 and then I saw it back into the ground and then into the wetlands. And I'm curious, 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:56.480 like is there anything that we treat our water with that would be harmful to the natural environment if it gets put back in the wetlands, 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:02.480 like, you know, to our floor or our fauna or, you know, anything since it's so sensitive already? 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.480 And that's part of the studies that we'll do. Okay. 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:10.480 And so we'll have chemists that will be analyzing the water, the watershed, if that becomes an option, right? 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:17.480 So these are things that are being evaluated today, and we'll be able to say, oh wait, this is a go, this makes sense, we can do it. 00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:23.480 Because of the environment that we're going to be discharging in, we have these tools and we can neutralize any of it. 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:32.480 So when we treat water, we typically maintain a residual, we have a chlorine residual, that's potable water, and that's not very friendly to the environment. 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:42.480 So we have to dechlorinate, so we add essentially vitamin C to it, which neutralizes that chemical and makes it safe for the environment. 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.480 The discharge from our wastewater treatment, so we need certain parameters where it's friendly to the environment. 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:59.480 That's primarily the water that we would be, if we chose to do a wetland, that we would be discharging and introducing into that environment. 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:08.480 In order for us to add water to the groundwater table, TCEQ is very clear that it must meet the drinking water standard. 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.480 So we have to meet a specific drinking water standard before we even inject it into the groundwater table. 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:19.480 So it's kind of two different points, two different treatment processes, but the same result. 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:26.480 It's part of those different buckets that we're developing where we can, oh, well, our reservoirs are being depleted, 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:32.480 let's pull this lever and take some of the stress off of the reservoir so we can extend that. 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:39.480 Oh, things are still getting worse, we have another lever we can pull and so on and so forth. Does that make sense? 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:48.480 Yeah, yeah, I just want to make sure, I mean, I knew that it was looked at, I just wanted to clarify for myself because it's very important to us. 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:56.480 Okay, and then we have, do we have rebates for our irrigation systems? Is that? 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.480 Not currently. 00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:58.480 No. 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:01.480 And that will be one of the things that we'll be looking at as well. 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:12.480 Okay, and just a comment, the reason I ask about the future growth in the business as usual is because as these items come to our decision makers, 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:18.480 that type of information will be very helpful for them as they're looking at budget and like, you know, planned projects. 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:24.480 Because as, until, you know, items are implemented and budgeted, it's just a plan. 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:32.480 And so, I think that type of information is really important to have. And that's all. 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.480 Okay, can we do a second round? 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.480 Oh, do you have another question? 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.480 A few that, you know, come up over the course of the conversation. 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.480 Okay, go ahead, Paul. 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:46.480 Is there potential for another reservoir to be built in the region? 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:55.480 Well, that's a complicated question. The construction of reservoirs are typically driven by Region C, 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.480 which is a portion of the Texas Water Development Board, in which we're a member of. 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.480 So what we do is we do our projections, our growth projections, and our need. 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:11.480 We submit them to Region C. Region C evaluates it, looking at it for more, obviously, you know, regional solutions. 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:18.480 And then, based off of the need, there may be an opportunity to build a reservoir. 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:25.480 But I think that the most current reservoir that's actually under construction right now is Lake Ralph Hall. 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:30.480 And that's being constructed by the Opportunity Regional Water District. 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:37.480 And they've got some business partners in that one. And it's way, it's down the path. 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.480 I think within the next two to three years it'll be constructed. 00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.480 And that's unique because it's not, I don't believe it's a Corps of Engineers reservoir. 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:52.480 So that's also one of the complications with doing a surface water storage facility in the state of Texas is that partnership. 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.480 It's not just with TCEQ, and it's not just with your regional partners. 00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:03.480 Then you have to work with the U.S. Corps of Engineers to construct that reservoir. 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:09.480 And is that one that we would conceivably be able to get some rights into? 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:23.480 Should it become something that is, I'll tell you one, I'll tell you for certain that I'm not going to want to pass up any opportunity for us to secure additional water resources. 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:34.480 So I will advocate for any water right we can purchase or we can partner on just because it's our long-term sustainability. 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:41.480 You may not be the right one to answer this one. Maybe it's a question that can't be answered today. 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:49.480 But I realize I have a little confusion in my own mind as I contemplate one replacement, zero escaping. 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:55.480 And I throw this to anybody who's got greater expertise versus everyone here. 00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:05.480 Is doing that simultaneously problematic for heat island impacts and air cleansing because you're reducing vegetation? 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:15.480 Or are there any offsetting tactics that you would want to do at the same time in order to get the holistically best sustainability action plan? 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.480 Because you're taking greenery out, something else you need to do, right? 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:27.480 Is it good for water? Is it bad for other things? It's a question. I don't know if we know. If anyone here knows the answer to that. 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.480 I'll keep moving if nobody leaps to their feet. 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.480 And to that point, too, pollinators. 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:45.480 So maybe not totally strictly. And it's at a high cost, obviously, to keep doing what we currently do in the water. 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:53.480 This you may have answered, but I just didn't get it clearly. And I hope you don't mind just saying it again if you have. 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:59.480 What is the timeline for the master plan? When are you hoping to have it baked? 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.480 The wastewater master plan should be completed this year in 2023. 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.480 We've just launched the wastewater master plan. 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:16.480 There are many other sub-plans to that that are going to take some time. So I would say 18, 24 months from now. 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.480 Oh, that's way past 2023. 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.480 Yeah, that's for the one water master plan. That's the one we just came out of. 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.480 So 2025-ish, potentially. 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:32.480 What would you like to see from this committee? What would most help you? 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.480 I think you'd hear a lot of support for the elements that are on there. We want to see more quantification. 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:42.480 We've got questions here and there, but you're kind of speaking our language. 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:52.480 I haven't given it much thought. I haven't had any struggles that I've had to navigate, which would inform where I would need assistance, if that makes sense. 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.480 Thank you. 00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.480 Adam, can I ask one more question? It does come up as you think together. 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:08.480 It's on the water quality side. I understand dental needs or exceeds quality standards. 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.480 We actually have award-winning water. We were a Texas waterer two weeks ago. 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.480 We took second and third in the state for best tasting water. 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.480 We were beat by Houston by one point, but the conference was in Houston. 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.480 I'm just a little bit suspect. 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.480 But Houston has a unique flavor. 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:27.480 They do. 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:41.480 I'm wondering about microplastics. Are they being tested for even? Are you up to the state of the art on that? 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:46.480 I'd have to defer to someone in the lab to answer a question. 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:53.480 I know that all of our protocol needs state regulations. We're testing for all the constituents that we're supposed to. 00:41:53.480 --> 00:42:04.480 We're getting ready to publish our water quality report, which has a lot of great information and shows you how very much compliant we are on those requirements. 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.480 Yeah, I'm just curious because there's things you test for and there's things that may not be tested for. 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.480 I don't think that's testing. 00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:16.480 I don't think it is. 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:28.480 We're very closely regulated by TCEQ and the federal government, so we follow those regulations very strictly. 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.480 Are we good? 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:44.480 I don't know if this is the right term, but permeable concrete docked driveways and sidewalks where instead of runoff... 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:57.480 That's a great question. That's more for a drainage question to answer, but I can tell you in my experience, we leveraged them in Colorado, we leveraged them in Las Vegas, so they're a viable solution. 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.480 Great. Thanks. 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:18.480 I did confirm that our native plant lists are on our website under the wildlife and wallflowers, and then we also have a whole water conservation webpage that we share with seated that has the Texas natives and all of those resources in there. 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.480 Awesome. Thank you. 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:33.480 All right, we will close this item. Thank you so much. Appreciate the information. And move on to our next item, C, staff reports and the matrix. 00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:40.480 And I do believe Mr. Stevens had an item to add to the matrix. Do you want to say that again? 00:43:40.480 --> 00:44:04.480 Yes, I would like for a more comprehensive presentation on the water plan in terms of quantitative, what are we trying to accomplish, what are the targets, and then how will these strategies, these tactics, impact our goal of sustainability with regards to water? 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:15.480 And the costs. Okay, and this may be a little bit further out as Stephen goes through the development of his plan, but I think I can capture it on the matrix to bring him back and see if he gets more information together. 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.480 Yes. Okay. 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:35.480 And I hear him say it's been presented to the city council, but where is it going to be? I heard him say April. He did say April. I think he meant May. 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:51.480 He meant May 2035. April 2044. Anyone else have any questions on the matrix, want to add to it, take off? Yeah, I mean just to close the loop versus the comment on minutes. 00:44:51.480 --> 00:45:18.480 It was agreed to incentivizing solar battery walls that we see the solar rebate discussion come back with grandfathering address. And actually on that topic, I would also add that I had misgivings, it might just be like a report being needed to see if we've correctly valued rooftop solar 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:37.480 with respect to the value of avoiding transmission expense. And then the item about whether we should meet twice a month to make more progress toward actually getting some sustainability tactics. 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:58.480 I have one thing. If possible, I'd like for an update on efforts at charging stations in the city. I know there was talk when I was on the PUP of increasing charging stations. 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:27.480 I'd also like to know if there's any discussion or plan for the city to utilize solar panels over parking areas, over parking lots. And in a general way, if there are any actual city initiatives for utilizing solar generation. 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:38.480 Are you talking about for city facilities, municipal functions, and also the same question on the EV charging, are you looking at the public facing or are you looking at the fleet facing? 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.480 Both. 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:52.480 I've been reading so much lately about how cities are covering their parking lots. 00:46:52.480 --> 00:47:06.480 Actually, I'd like to see an update on that. 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:16.480 All right, so we will move to concluding items. Does anybody have anything they'd like to add at this point? 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:31.480 I have a question with regards to the sustainability fund work plan. The only information I could find that's available was published October 21 through March 22. 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:47.480 Clearly, we are a year beyond that. Is that plan still our guiding document or is there something that -- I couldn't find it on the website or anything like that. Is there a more current plan that deals with the fund, sustainability fund? 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:51.480 There is one for this fiscal year. I'll find out where that one lives. 00:47:51.480 --> 00:48:07.480 Just so that I want to make sure as I'm working through this, I've got guidelines that I'm working from and thinking from, so that and the simply sustainable document that is out there, is that the most current document? 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:08.480 It is. 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:09.480 It is? Okay. 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.480 We'll be working on an update to that this coming year. 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.480 Okay. 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:14.480 All right. 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:15.480 Thank you. 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.480 Go ahead. 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:19.480 I believe the Red Bull Festival is tomorrow. 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.480 I believe it is moved indoors and it is tomorrow. 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.480 Awesome. Thank you for that. 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:32.480 Okay. We will adjourn at 1.49. Thank you so much.