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 All right hello everyone and welcome to the sustainability framework advisory

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 committee. It is Friday April 28th and it is one o'clock. We are in the City

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 Council work session room and we will we do have a quorum and we will begin with

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 our first item for individual consideration. Consider approval of the

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 March 24th 2023 minutes. And everybody good? Ed? I'm good. Okay all right and in

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 motion? Yeah comments? Oh yeah go ahead. Yeah there are a few items that I didn't

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 see reflected. I made an inquiry into incentivizing solar battery walls all

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 like California. I don't know maybe I erased it two meetings ago. It's not the

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 minutes but it's also not the matrix. I also note member it's so fast that we see

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 what the plan is to incorporate solar rebate grandfathering and for that to

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 come back to us several of us voted for the recommendation on the basis that we

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 see that or that that be included. I also asked that we discuss meeting twice a

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 month to make more progress toward actually getting some sustainability

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 tactics on the ground and I don't see that in the matrix either. So not in the

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 So do we need to add those into the minutes before they're approved to make an

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 amendment? Is that acceptable? Okay so I offer the friendly amendment to include

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 or to reflect in the minutes that in the matrix we include an inquiry into

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 incentivizing solar battery walls as well as that we see the solar rebate come

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 back to us reflecting a plan for grandfathering and that we have a

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 discussion on meeting twice a month to make more progress. That's what was said

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 prior to the meeting that weren't reflected so we just want to make those

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 reflected in the minutes. I'd like to second the motion with the amendments with the additional

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 comment that we've made a bit of a huffle in the past about the limitedness

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 that were reflected in the minutes and it does have a lot more detail than in

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 previous meetings so that's that's really awesome to see that reflected both in

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 the video as well as the minutes. Okay so all in favor of the minutes with

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 these amendments? Okay so we will put that in and move to item B, receive a

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 report, hold a discussion on the Denton Water Utilities long-range plans

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 addressing sustainability measures that also account for future growth. And we have Steve from

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 Denton Water Utilities with us today. And we are using the mics up here, not this one here.

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 That's better. And if you would just say your name again. Yes I'm Stephen Gay, I'm the director of water utilities for the city of Denton.

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 Thank you guys, thanks for inviting me to discuss our long-term master plans. We've got a few in the hopper. Right now we're working on our wastewater master plan and then we have

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 another one right behind that called the comprehensive, it's the one water master plan.

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 And that is, it compiles several different master plan efforts in one

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 initiative. We're looking at updating our 2018 water master plan so it's at the

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 infrastructure that we need moving forward. We're looking at a comprehensive

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 water supply plan. We're looking at a reclaimed water master plan. We're

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 looking at a conservation, updating our conservation plan and doing our drought

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 management plan. So in you'd say one water, you said where's storm water? Well storm water was left out

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 intentionally it falls in another business unit and they were

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 already moving forward with the master plan that we started. So we're here to talk about how those master plans can

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 intersect with sustainability. So in the conservation plan we're going to be

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 looking at plumbing code reduction so we can reduce the per capita per day

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 consumption. We're also looking at reduced water loss and through features

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 say. So the leak detection technology is advanced significantly in the industry

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 and so we have the ability to deploy throughout our distribution system

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 listening devices that can actually hear water leaking through a pipe and we can

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 detect leaks before they emerge as a break and so getting those crews to

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 respond proactively and fixing those leaks before we lose all that water is

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 one of the strategies we'll be looking into. The efficient irrigation systems being more

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 deliberate with our landscape audits and developing a program to help replace

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 controllers and to update them to something more sophisticated they can

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 they can actually detect when it's just rained or the soil the moisture of the

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 soil doesn't need the sprinklers to come on right away and then incentivizing

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 incentivizing low-demand landscape you know encouraging more that Texas

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 native landscaping and developing a program where we're evaluating those

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 programs to see if it'll be successful here to where the utility will help fund

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 turf replacement for residents that want to convert their lawns to more

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 of a Xerox cave and then finally within the conservation time we're working

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 closely with the sustainability team to put in place an ordinance that actually

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 dictates conservation. Right now to my knowledge we're the only utility

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 within the DFW area that doesn't have water restrictions on certain times of the year.

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 So we're going to be looking at that and developing that ordinance and codifying it.

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 So that reclaimed the reuse master plan that I discussed a little earlier it's

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 we want to capitalize on the plan so right now we have an authorization from

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 TCEQ so that's the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to reuse six

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 million gallons a day of our effluent from concrete which is our waste water

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 treatment facility. Currently we only reuse about one-tenth of that flow and so

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 we have four customers on the system and that's what this plan is going to look at.

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 So what's the opportunity? If we have a pipeline going down a certain road is

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 there a city facility there? Is there a park there? Is there something that we

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 could convert their landscaping from potable water over to reclaimed water?

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 Same thing with commercial use doing the same thing and then we'll be working

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 a master plan and it kind of lines these things out to develop an ordinance that

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 requires connection to the reclaim system when it's within a certain

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 Is there any insight on why that is so low of a percentage right now?

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 the organization didn't really realize what they had when they developed it and

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 didn't put a lot of investment into expanding the system. They had one

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 customer which is the Oakmont College Force within Brooklyn which is their primary user

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 and then the city's landfill is another one of our big users on that system and the Spencer Power Plant.

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 comprehensive water supply plan, is there an opportunity for us to recharge the aquifer?

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 storage and recovery which will give us the opportunity to actually take

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 standards before you inject it into the groundwater. Then you have an accounting

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 plan so we put in this much we get to take out this much at a later date.

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 That's what we're looking at at developing. So we would be doing a

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 technology is advanced significantly in the treatment of wastewater to where we

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 can treat it above and beyond actually safe drinking water standards. So we have an

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 opportunity to treat at our wastewater treatment facilities using a specific

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 technology and then blending that water with raw water and then sending it into

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 a potable water treatment facility for final treatment. So essentially we

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 extend our water supply. We make something that's a little bit more drought

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 create some a portfolio that is more climate resilient so we have a bunch of

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 water source if that makes sense. And then also we're going to be evaluating is

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 there any opportunity for us to send the treated effluent obviously to water

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 drinking water quality standards to a natural buffer or wetland and then

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 that'd be five years from now but I know some steps have been happening in the

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 that's what the master plan is identifying. So we have as part of our

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 Dollar amount to be funded how? We're currently undergoing the master

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 There was something like a hundred million dollars and they're still talking about that same order of magnitude?

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 Okay so all the more reason to reduce demand. To reduce responsibly reduce

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 indoor well actually our biggest use on the system is outdoor irrigation. It counts for about 75 to 80% of demand on the system.

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 Do you want to get through each person's questions or one one one one? I can get her name I had great

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 conversations at UNT. I happened to meet the professor there who is employed by

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 the city of Dallas to do a grade school education on water conservation and

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 she's you know quite quantitative and will make the case that you could do as

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 affecting irrigation. Kind of a big claim especially given what you just said. Are you

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 creative with her? Would you like me to make an introduction? I'm not familiar with her and I guess you could go through Catherine.

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 Is it Dr. Thompson still? Say again? Dr. Thompson. If you told me her nickname her first name that's it.

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 You know her? Okay. But you know claims pretty powerful success with that program. Okay.

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 Yeah thank you for your presentation. That was one of my questions. I'm kind of

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 missing the big picture so what is so it sounds like your goals are lower per

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 wondering on the per capita water usage can you tell us what it is now how that's

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 changed over the years? I can tell you what the per capita use is currently. I think at its peak it was roughly 175

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 gallons per day per individual and that was in 2011. Our lowest was in 2021 which

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 was just above 130 gallons per capita per day. In 2022 it was an anomaly we had an

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 about 150 gallons per capita. What was the last year I'm sorry? Last year was 150 sir.

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 How do those numbers stack up against other cities? That's part of the

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 evaluation we were well within our targets in our conservation plan so we

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 can get back to you if you like to see a comparison with other cities within the region. That's pretty easy for us.

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 You mentioned was kind of offhand of depleting resources. This ties into kind of your projections. What are the

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 projections not not about uses but for a lot of resources in the region? Do you all have forecasts?

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 Well we own resources within Lake Ray Roberts and Lake Lewisville. Those permits are extremely complicated.

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 So we have what we call a fermule which is when lakes are down into conservation pools and when they're extremely low.

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 of resources within those surface water lakes or reservoirs. And that's why we feel the urgency now

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 to develop plans to diversify our water portfolio so we can have different buckets to pull from should we experience that.

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 So my experience is primarily from the west. So I worked for the city of Las Vegas for about 17 years

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 and Long Beach California for about four. And so I'm very very familiar with drought and drought management in the United States.

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 Yeah I just have a handful of questions but I guess primarily the listed agenda topics about accounting for

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 I can show you what we're looking at. So this is very subjective, right?

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 and we see what the trends are right now. So right now, based off of a couple of factors,

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 so we have a lot of municipal utility districts along the 380 that are moving forward.

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 And all of that together is projected over the next five years to be roughly eight percent is what we're saying.

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 If we don't do all the conservation and we don't start doing these things to save water while we have it,

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 the growth rate and if we're in a drought, like how long is our business as usual sustainable

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 I can tell you that conservation is a very key component of our water supply plan.

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 Just a couple other more, almost recommendations I suppose.

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 So I love a lot of what you have in here and it looks like you're really taking that past experience

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 in those water-limited municipalities and bringing that here, which is fantastic because we've heard from previous presentations

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 that drought and increased heat days are kind of those projected future impacts for our city.

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 I just, in Las Vegas it's something like two inches or so a year in precipitation and here we get anywhere from 30 to 55 sometimes.

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 that will show customers different alternatives. So it's not just xeriscape and so it's all kinds of other alternatives.

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 So ultimately we'll have a location that a resident can go through, walk through,

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 kind of almost like the catable garden where they can look at it and say hey, wow I really like that planting,

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 I really like that. You're telling me that this is a water-wise vegetation? Awesome.

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 I know that AgriLife in Dallas has some really interesting resources over that and in the city of Austin I think also does those cool classifications

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 on different landscape use plants because they have similar concerns for water usage in their irrigation system as well.

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 Thank you for the history too on the per capita gallons per day. That was really helpful and one of my questions.

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 The other one on the groundwater banking, I think the last I had heard is something like 70% of municipalities

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 in the Trinity Aquifer use surface water. So I'm not sure if you're familiar or maybe you could help us understand,

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 would there be any potential competition between other municipalities moving toward that groundwater use?

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 I understand you said like a banking system where we deposit from our allocations into a groundwater recharge,

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 but obviously that's shared broadly across the region, how would that?

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 Yeah and that's going to, it's sort of a more complicated answer than I'm going to give you right now.

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 We foresee it as being a regional partnership with the city of Dallas and Fort Worth as we develop these types of plants.

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 So we're looking at it, we're not just looking at it from Denton's perspective, we're looking at it from that more comprehensive view.

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 How can we best leverage our assets? Because Lake Lewisville and Lake Ray Roberts are jointly owned by the city of Dallas and the city of Fort Worth.

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 And so that's really one of our biggest business partners and we have the most opportunity to leverage that relationship in developing that ASL program.

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 So you see this as more of a kind of a regional partnership where maybe we're not uplifting a lot of this infrastructure?

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 Not all of it, but what we do have is we have access to a lot of raw water while the lakes are high

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 and we have a lot of treatment capacity to refine it to a point where we can inject it into the groundwater table.

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 So that makes us, it gives us a competitive edge.

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 That was all of my questions, but I really just wanted to emphasize that I appreciate your future forward thinking

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 in these sorts of plans for especially taking advantage of the assets that we do have sometimes in abundance and sometimes at a dearth.

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 It sounds like you're moving in a really great direction.

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 I'm going to skip for now and go to Ed.

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 Yeah, pardon me. So you say the master plan is going to extend out 50 years?

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 Well, we look at 50 years, then we come back to 25, then we come back to 10, and then we really kind of try to concentrate on the 5.

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 Okay, that makes sense. And so would that mean that there would be designated intermediate steps and timelines

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 for the implementation of particular aspects of the plan?

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 Depends. So what we typically do is we'll do that long-term master plan and we'll look that 50 years out

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 and we kind of dial it back into that 5-year plan and then we get midway through the 5-year plan, like in year 3,

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 we initiate another plan, right, where we go back and we check those assumptions for year 10 further out and we double-check.

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 So we kind of, we continually refine the plan as we move forward through the plan, if that makes any sense.

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 And does that refinement include the possibility of, I would assume would include possibilities

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 of having ordinances enacted to, rather than just verbiage?

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 Yes, sir.

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 Yeah. Great. And when will this plan be completed?

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 Well, the Wastewater Master Plan, we're going to be giving a presentation to City Council on, let's say, the first part of April, PV and then City Council.

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 It's not for approval yet, it's just a touch base with them to let them know this is where we're at and this is what we're seeing.

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 We anticipate by the end of the year that that plan should be finalized and prepared for council approval.

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 The One Water Master Plan just kicked off, I'd say about three months ago, so we're just getting started.

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 It's three to six months just getting started with that plan.

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 Would there be any opportunities to bring us up to date?

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 Of course.

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 Yeah, great.

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 If Michael just reached out to me, I'd be happy to come and chat with him.

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 Okay, just a couple of other things.

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 You said that 80% of the drinkable water is used for yard irrigation?

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 About 70 to 80%, yeah. Outdoor use, yes.

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 Is that considered excessive or normal?

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 It's actually normal. So in the Las Vegas Valley area, it was 75 to 85% until they got really aggressive with their conservation efforts and they curtailed it, but it's pretty common.

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 Yeah, the Vegas thing is interesting because that seems to be an instance of a complete removal of precaution and having to just suddenly, oh my God, look at the lake.

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 At least that's the impression that I...

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 Yeah, and having worked there, I might have a little bit...

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 I'm sure that's why I'm asking.

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 I know that the general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority and Las Vegas Valley Water Authority were very forward-looking on that.

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 They actually had projects that lowered their intakes.

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 They actually worked with the farmers up north and purchased a bunch of ranch land so they could tap into groundwater.

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 They designed conveyance systems from northern Nevada down to southern Nevada.

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 Doug Bennett, who worked for Southern Nevada Water Authority, was a conservation manager, and he started an entire conference called Waterwise and really changed the approach to conservation.

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 So case in point, if you walk down the Las Vegas Strip and you see the fountains in front of a lodge, you think, well, that's just a huge waste of water. That's probably the most efficient system in the nation with regards to recycled water.

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 Good to know. Thank you.

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 You're very welcome.

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 I would just like to piggyback on what we were talking about, waterwise vegetation or native vegetation.

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 I see that as when you look at what you mentioned about the hunter coal development and obviously the increase in the use of lawn watering, watering systems and that sort of thing.

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 It's very, very important that what you said about having a menu to choose from.

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 Well, that as well as having reclaimed water available for them because part of the hunter coal agreement requires that we build the treatment facility and so we will be designing that facility to have an effluent that can be used for reclaimed and as we install the infrastructure from hunter coal to the treatment facility, we'll also be putting in dual pipeline that can bring reclaimed water back down to that community so they can leverage that.

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 Will there actually be a treatment center in the hunter coal?

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 Not in the hunter coal, no, sir.

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 We've purchased the birch property over there off of Country Club Road, so it's about a 400 acre parcel and that's what we'll be putting in the treatment facility.

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 I think that's all I had.

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 Thanks for your presentation.

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 A couple of different categories.

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 Thank you again for the presentation.

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 Water is very important to me.

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 You too.

283
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 Well, I guess 58 years is better than that one.

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 The first category will be quantitative and I've heard several of these same questions mentioned.

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 What are our goals?

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 Are we in trouble now?

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 How much do we need to reduce the areas of opportunity?

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 What does that look like in terms of gallons and then what does that look like in terms of cost to make that happen?

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 I wish I could give you a definitive answer on that.

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 First of all, I don't think we're in trouble at this moment.

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 I think that we have enough supply, we have enough resources to manage the growth trend we're seeing currently.

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 The master planning effort is very important for us because it helps us identify the resources we need to invest in so we can maintain that water security.

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 Can we repeat the rest of your question, please?

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 Well, basically from a quantitative perspective, how many gallons of uses do we need to reduce to hit the target?

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 What are the targets?

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 That's what I'm missing.

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 And we're developing that.

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 So that's going to be an interactive process.

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 We're going to come over and look at industry standards.

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 We're going to look at best management practices.

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 We're going to look at what TCEQ tells us we need to be doing.

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 We're going to be working with our sustainability team.

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 We're going to say, okay, we've got this recommendation here for a reduction per capita per day.

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 We've got this one over here.

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 We've got this one over here.

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 What fits best with our long-term goals and strategies?

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 And then we'll be bringing that forward for, let's say, concurrence.

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 Okay.

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 And then what would be the associated cost with that to make this happen?

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 That really depends.

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 We have turf replacement programs, and on the Southern Battle Water Authority,

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 they probably have a $20 million annual budget that they can be earmarked specifically to turf replacement,

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 and that's to defer the construction of capital projects.

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 Okay.

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 Second category would be partnerships.

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 Are we, from an educational perspective, where are my consumer hat now?

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 Okay.

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 Do we have a tremendous amount of money in my water bills, i.e., water usage,

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 by connecting with a university that I'm drawing up like Texas A&M, I believe,

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 that helps me manage the amount of water that I irrigate my lawn with?

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 Yeah.

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 Do we have a partnership with the academia?

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 And how can we do a better job of getting that information out to the consumer?

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 Because there's a great opportunity for us to reduce the amount of water just through the education.

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 So that's my question.

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 Are we connected with that, and is that education to the consumer part of the plan?

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 Well, I'm looking over at Katherine, and she's saying that, yes, we do have that connection.

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 And I will tell you, part of this plan is to look at those irrigation systems.

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 I mentioned the controllers and those irrigation audits.

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 That's exactly what that does, is we invest money into a consultant that we make available to our residents,

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 that they'll come out to their home, they'll run their sprinklers, they'll look at them, they'll dial it in,

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 they'll say, wait a minute, you've got this kind of head on here, completely the wrong thing,

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 this is what you need, this is where you get it, this is how you do it.

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 And then we're also hoping to, again, earmark some funds that we can then say,

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 well, the controller that you're using was built in 1972, and it's not state of the art.

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 We can offset your costs to upgrade that with one that has a sensor that goes on your gutters,

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 and it tells you when it's just raining, and it tells your sprinklers not to come on.

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 Or it tells you, hey, it's raining, and your sprinklers are supposed to come on, we're not going to come on right now.

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 So things like that. So yes on the education, and yes on the fact that we're moving in the direction of providing those resources to our community.

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 Okay, if I may ask that we make that a matrix item, because it's very important to educate the community.

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 In my own block, just a block of the block, not water I see from irrigation systems

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 that's running down the gutters and into the silvers.

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 It's raining outside, and it's going on. And the sprinklers are running. There's tremendous opportunity for us in that category.

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 I'd really like to see us take risks as we can from an educational perspective to educate the community,

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 get this information out there, how we can.

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 Well, and part of that conservation plan is there is a line item, and the scope is to develop literature,

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 you know, educational materials for that purpose. And we'll be working very closely with our sustainability team to do that.

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 Okay, that answers my questions. Thank you very much.

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 I'm just a couple. One, I'm just curious if we have a list of water-wise vegetation anywhere on our website.

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 Like if some, if our homeowners were looking to change their landscape, is there a spot where they can?

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 I think it's still on there. I'll have to go dig a little bit and make sure.

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 I think that would be helpful. And then this is, I'm curious, because you said treated water a few times, and then you said,

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 and then I saw it back into the ground and then into the wetlands. And I'm curious,

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 like is there anything that we treat our water with that would be harmful to the natural environment if it gets put back in the wetlands,

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 like, you know, to our floor or our fauna or, you know, anything since it's so sensitive already?

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 And that's part of the studies that we'll do. Okay.

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 And so we'll have chemists that will be analyzing the water, the watershed, if that becomes an option, right?

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 So these are things that are being evaluated today, and we'll be able to say, oh wait, this is a go, this makes sense, we can do it.

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 Because of the environment that we're going to be discharging in, we have these tools and we can neutralize any of it.

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 So when we treat water, we typically maintain a residual, we have a chlorine residual, that's potable water, and that's not very friendly to the environment.

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 So we have to dechlorinate, so we add essentially vitamin C to it, which neutralizes that chemical and makes it safe for the environment.

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 The discharge from our wastewater treatment, so we need certain parameters where it's friendly to the environment.

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 That's primarily the water that we would be, if we chose to do a wetland, that we would be discharging and introducing into that environment.

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 In order for us to add water to the groundwater table, TCEQ is very clear that it must meet the drinking water standard.

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 So we have to meet a specific drinking water standard before we even inject it into the groundwater table.

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 So it's kind of two different points, two different treatment processes, but the same result.

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 It's part of those different buckets that we're developing where we can, oh, well, our reservoirs are being depleted,

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 let's pull this lever and take some of the stress off of the reservoir so we can extend that.

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 Oh, things are still getting worse, we have another lever we can pull and so on and so forth. Does that make sense?

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 Yeah, yeah, I just want to make sure, I mean, I knew that it was looked at, I just wanted to clarify for myself because it's very important to us.

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 Okay, and then we have, do we have rebates for our irrigation systems? Is that?

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 Not currently.

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 No.

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 And that will be one of the things that we'll be looking at as well.

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 Okay, and just a comment, the reason I ask about the future growth in the business as usual is because as these items come to our decision makers,

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 that type of information will be very helpful for them as they're looking at budget and like, you know, planned projects.

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 Because as, until, you know, items are implemented and budgeted, it's just a plan.

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 And so, I think that type of information is really important to have. And that's all.

379
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 Okay, can we do a second round?

380
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 Oh, do you have another question?

381
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 A few that, you know, come up over the course of the conversation.

382
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 Okay, go ahead, Paul.

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 Is there potential for another reservoir to be built in the region?

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 Well, that's a complicated question. The construction of reservoirs are typically driven by Region C,

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 which is a portion of the Texas Water Development Board, in which we're a member of.

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 So what we do is we do our projections, our growth projections, and our need.

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 We submit them to Region C. Region C evaluates it, looking at it for more, obviously, you know, regional solutions.

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 And then, based off of the need, there may be an opportunity to build a reservoir.

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 But I think that the most current reservoir that's actually under construction right now is Lake Ralph Hall.

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 And that's being constructed by the Opportunity Regional Water District.

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 And they've got some business partners in that one. And it's way, it's down the path.

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 I think within the next two to three years it'll be constructed.

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 And that's unique because it's not, I don't believe it's a Corps of Engineers reservoir.

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 So that's also one of the complications with doing a surface water storage facility in the state of Texas is that partnership.

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 It's not just with TCEQ, and it's not just with your regional partners.

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 Then you have to work with the U.S. Corps of Engineers to construct that reservoir.

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 And is that one that we would conceivably be able to get some rights into?

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 Should it become something that is, I'll tell you one, I'll tell you for certain that I'm not going to want to pass up any opportunity for us to secure additional water resources.

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 So I will advocate for any water right we can purchase or we can partner on just because it's our long-term sustainability.

400
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 You may not be the right one to answer this one. Maybe it's a question that can't be answered today.

401
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 But I realize I have a little confusion in my own mind as I contemplate one replacement, zero escaping.

402
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 And I throw this to anybody who's got greater expertise versus everyone here.

403
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 Is doing that simultaneously problematic for heat island impacts and air cleansing because you're reducing vegetation?

404
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 Or are there any offsetting tactics that you would want to do at the same time in order to get the holistically best sustainability action plan?

405
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 Because you're taking greenery out, something else you need to do, right?

406
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 Is it good for water? Is it bad for other things? It's a question. I don't know if we know. If anyone here knows the answer to that.

407
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 I'll keep moving if nobody leaps to their feet.

408
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
 And to that point, too, pollinators.

409
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 So maybe not totally strictly. And it's at a high cost, obviously, to keep doing what we currently do in the water.

410
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 This you may have answered, but I just didn't get it clearly. And I hope you don't mind just saying it again if you have.

411
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,480
 What is the timeline for the master plan? When are you hoping to have it baked?

412
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,480
 The wastewater master plan should be completed this year in 2023.

413
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,480
 We've just launched the wastewater master plan.

414
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:16,480
 There are many other sub-plans to that that are going to take some time. So I would say 18, 24 months from now.

415
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,480
 Oh, that's way past 2023.

416
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,480
 Yeah, that's for the one water master plan. That's the one we just came out of.

417
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
 So 2025-ish, potentially.

418
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:32,480
 What would you like to see from this committee? What would most help you?

419
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,480
 I think you'd hear a lot of support for the elements that are on there. We want to see more quantification.

420
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,480
 We've got questions here and there, but you're kind of speaking our language.

421
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:52,480
 I haven't given it much thought. I haven't had any struggles that I've had to navigate, which would inform where I would need assistance, if that makes sense.

422
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,480
 Thank you.

423
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,480
 Adam, can I ask one more question? It does come up as you think together.

424
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:08,480
 It's on the water quality side. I understand dental needs or exceeds quality standards.

425
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,480
 We actually have award-winning water. We were a Texas waterer two weeks ago.

426
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,480
 We took second and third in the state for best tasting water.

427
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,480
 We were beat by Houston by one point, but the conference was in Houston.

428
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,480
 I'm just a little bit suspect.

429
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,480
 But Houston has a unique flavor.

430
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,480
 They do.

431
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:41,480
 I'm wondering about microplastics. Are they being tested for even? Are you up to the state of the art on that?

432
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,480
 I'd have to defer to someone in the lab to answer a question.

433
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:53,480
 I know that all of our protocol needs state regulations. We're testing for all the constituents that we're supposed to.

434
00:41:53,480 --> 00:42:04,480
 We're getting ready to publish our water quality report, which has a lot of great information and shows you how very much compliant we are on those requirements.

435
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,480
 Yeah, I'm just curious because there's things you test for and there's things that may not be tested for.

436
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,480
 I don't think that's testing.

437
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,480
 I don't think it is.

438
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:28,480
 We're very closely regulated by TCEQ and the federal government, so we follow those regulations very strictly.

439
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,480
 Are we good?

440
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:44,480
 I don't know if this is the right term, but permeable concrete docked driveways and sidewalks where instead of runoff...

441
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:57,480
 That's a great question. That's more for a drainage question to answer, but I can tell you in my experience, we leveraged them in Colorado, we leveraged them in Las Vegas, so they're a viable solution.

442
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,480
 Great. Thanks.

443
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:18,480
 I did confirm that our native plant lists are on our website under the wildlife and wallflowers, and then we also have a whole water conservation webpage that we share with seated that has the Texas natives and all of those resources in there.

444
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480
 Awesome. Thank you.

445
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:33,480
 All right, we will close this item. Thank you so much. Appreciate the information. And move on to our next item, C, staff reports and the matrix.

446
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:40,480
 And I do believe Mr. Stevens had an item to add to the matrix. Do you want to say that again?

447
00:43:40,480 --> 00:44:04,480
 Yes, I would like for a more comprehensive presentation on the water plan in terms of quantitative, what are we trying to accomplish, what are the targets, and then how will these strategies, these tactics, impact our goal of sustainability with regards to water?

448
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:15,480
 And the costs. Okay, and this may be a little bit further out as Stephen goes through the development of his plan, but I think I can capture it on the matrix to bring him back and see if he gets more information together.

449
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
 Yes. Okay.

450
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:35,480
 And I hear him say it's been presented to the city council, but where is it going to be? I heard him say April. He did say April. I think he meant May.

451
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:51,480
 He meant May 2035. April 2044. Anyone else have any questions on the matrix, want to add to it, take off? Yeah, I mean just to close the loop versus the comment on minutes.

452
00:44:51,480 --> 00:45:18,480
 It was agreed to incentivizing solar battery walls that we see the solar rebate discussion come back with grandfathering address. And actually on that topic, I would also add that I had misgivings, it might just be like a report being needed to see if we've correctly valued rooftop solar

453
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:37,480
 with respect to the value of avoiding transmission expense. And then the item about whether we should meet twice a month to make more progress toward actually getting some sustainability tactics.

454
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:58,480
 I have one thing. If possible, I'd like for an update on efforts at charging stations in the city. I know there was talk when I was on the PUP of increasing charging stations.

455
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:27,480
 I'd also like to know if there's any discussion or plan for the city to utilize solar panels over parking areas, over parking lots. And in a general way, if there are any actual city initiatives for utilizing solar generation.

456
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:38,480
 Are you talking about for city facilities, municipal functions, and also the same question on the EV charging, are you looking at the public facing or are you looking at the fleet facing?

457
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,480
 Both.

458
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:52,480
 I've been reading so much lately about how cities are covering their parking lots.

459
00:46:52,480 --> 00:47:06,480
 Actually, I'd like to see an update on that.

460
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:16,480
 All right, so we will move to concluding items. Does anybody have anything they'd like to add at this point?

461
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:31,480
 I have a question with regards to the sustainability fund work plan. The only information I could find that's available was published October 21 through March 22.

462
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:47,480
 Clearly, we are a year beyond that. Is that plan still our guiding document or is there something that -- I couldn't find it on the website or anything like that. Is there a more current plan that deals with the fund, sustainability fund?

463
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,480
 There is one for this fiscal year. I'll find out where that one lives.

464
00:47:51,480 --> 00:48:07,480
 Just so that I want to make sure as I'm working through this, I've got guidelines that I'm working from and thinking from, so that and the simply sustainable document that is out there, is that the most current document?

465
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,480
 It is.

466
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,480
 It is? Okay.

467
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,480
 We'll be working on an update to that this coming year.

468
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,480
 Okay.

469
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,480
 All right.

470
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,480
 Thank you.

471
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,480
 Go ahead.

472
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,480
 I believe the Red Bull Festival is tomorrow.

473
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,480
 I believe it is moved indoors and it is tomorrow.

474
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,480
 Awesome. Thank you for that.

475
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:32,480
 Okay. We will adjourn at 1.49. Thank you so much.