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 make sure that our ordinance clearly specifies electric scooters so that in case there are

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 It's more procedural at this point because I know the council is on board.

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 couldn't have gone from work session to ordinance like rather than going kind of back to committee

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 Well typically the rule of thumb that we've been playing, you're using is before an item

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 related matter that goes through the respective committee and with just to give that one other

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 Good morning.

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 My name's Mark Oliphant.

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 I am your bicycle and pedestrian coordinator.

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 I'm in the capital projects program and traffic engineering.

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 So yes, we have discussed this in the past.

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 I'm just going to give you a quick overview knowing that you have some background on this,

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 So e scooters, they've become very popular I'd say in the last 18 months to two years

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 They're available both as a shared use of vehicle and as individual vehicles on the

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 These are ones that are available on Amazon high quality electric scooters four to $500

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 very similar to what you would see in other cities such as Dallas that are being shared

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 by various companies on the right is a spin shared scooter spin actually had last summer

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 a deal with TWU to provide shared bikes and then they ended up pulling out because the

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 demand for scooters was so high compared to bikes that they decided it wasn't worth it

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 for them to stay in that business.

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 Scooters share.

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 I think we have discussed this in the past as a quick overview.

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 It's like the bike share the parked various places throughout cities public rights of

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 way parks and people check them out with their with an app on a smartphone about a dollar

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 Some headlines here I would say that the jury is still out about these scooters and safety.

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 The CDC is actually right now working with Austin to analyze emergency room visits and

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 So just an overview of what might be some of the safety concerns versus say a shared

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 bike or something you have a very small diameter wheel it doesn't roll over obstacles like

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 turning radius with the steering speeds that you can achieve 15 miles an hour is usually

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 the motorized top speed but you can go faster down hills or something conflicts with pedestrians

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 where you're riding depends and also mixing with vehicular traffic.

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 So within the Texas Code yes sir.

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 record of electric scooters versus electric power assisted bicycles?

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 to that CDC report and that should tell us give us some good information but there really

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 scooters street highways or sidewalks and so this is this is up to individual municipalities

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 renewal of the shared bicycle pilot program that we've had for this school year.

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 not going over well on bumps and I know that we're in a this year we're completing a lot

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 of streets and redoing them and I don't know that they would be that safe right now on

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 our streets anyway and also I've I just kind of glanced through and did a quick search

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 and there are several cities Corpus, Atlanta they're they're looking at this and adding

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 certain restrictions and I'm glad that we are taking time to get ahead of it and think

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 which seem to have all the pluses without the specific minuses associated with scooters.

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 I'm bringing it up because a member of traffic safety brought the issue up to me.

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 and you know recently got as gifts for Christmas so it would banning them affect that in any

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 those that are from the shared companies and those owned by private individuals but so

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 they've been still could ride in the street no no so public right away is meeting streets

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 and sidewalks they can't really ride there but they they're more than welcome to ride

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 in parks and places that there is appropriate okay so so because it's more of a recreational

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 type of use that they're more than in their yards backyards wherever they want to ride

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 to make sure that we tie that in I think the other thing too that's always conflict is

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 the fact when whether it's these providers you know these for-profit providers you know

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 as far as when they're on the app when they are releasing liability of the company for

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 injury I mean they're requiring you that user to have a helmet with them well the likelihood

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 of a person wanting to just use just I think I'm just gonna go and try on this new vehicle

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 per se who's gonna have a helmet versus potentially a kid that gets these scooters I'm not saying

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 that in all cases but in some situations you would think in most situations if they have

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 a parent they would want them to be wearing a helmet so there is a little bit of a difference

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 and so I think having those in the parks again is sort of in a supervised environment not

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 always but more likely to supervise an environment with the appropriate safety equipment whether

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 it's helmet pads for the hands and knees just like they would if they're riding a bicycle

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 could we put together some kind of a along the same timeline as the ordinance sort of

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 a public communication of do's and don'ts where you can use them it never occurred to

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 me until you said it that oh people could take them to parks you know we have many miles

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 of trail you know so where can you use them and you know we suggest you use a helmet and

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 because then I was like wait my son is has a ten-year-old friend and rides it to our

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 house with he has a you know a helmet on I just don't I don't yeah so that's not okay

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 metropolitan sorry miss something yeah okay so I'll articulate okay motion second all

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 in favor okay now moving on everything I just said direction on the MTA excuse me MTP policy

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 I'm going to be giving a status update on this North Central Texas Council of Governments

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 policy bundle program we gave an initial report back in November of 2018 to this committee

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 just going over some basics about the program and in the past month and a half we've gathered

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 more information so have an update for you all I'm sorry for my sniffles I'm so I know

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 we went over the program I just wanted to do a quick overview so basically North Central

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 if an entity adopts at least 50% of them so in this case 10 10 or more then we are eligible

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 for transportation development credits and these credits basically offset the local match

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 and federally funded transportation projects so they end up helping the city save some

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 money on some of our transportation infrastructure projects and so yes didn't occur to me to

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 ask this in advance do we know how many credits we would qualify for like what is it is it

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 scaled in some way so each project when you submit a project going forward they have a

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 bank of six hundred seven hundred million dollars worth of these credits and they apply

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 so it they can award it by project or they can award it by by a program and so typically

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 with the way the city that submits projects if we would do this it would be our local

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 match requirement per project so but you know would it wipe out all of our local match requirements

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 for a period of time or so just like you'll get a prize so you don't know what it's going

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 to be so remember that these credits are not real money they are if you've had a federal

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 aid project and it's a hundred dollars and you get funded for it the feds will pay for

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 $80 and you got to pay for 20 in this case if you earn these credits right or to be eligible

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 to access those credits they'll simply apply those credits to your project and you can

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 get a hundred dollar project for $80 you don't put anything in the trick is to build a hundred

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 dollar project for $80 so that therein lies the rub so but what happens a lot of times

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 is we negotiate with with the NPO to make it a hundred and twenty dollar project have

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 the local match be offset by the credits and then we build a hundred dollar project for

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 a hundred dollars so it can work out is as long as you're going into with your eyes open

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 but but we do we have any idea so the region has a whole each because these these toll

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 credits are back when we converted 190 and 121 and 360 all these roads to toll roads

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 the federal government wanted those entities that were aggressive and using those tools

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 to have some benefit other than just getting those roads built sooner and so basically

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 they give you an allocation every five years or so to those areas that had toll roads that

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 they they developed and I think the last time I remember seeing the number it was like 650

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 million dollars for the North Texas area and you can trade those to other MPOs but it's

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 about 650 million dollars in credits and so they just allocate them by project to each

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 of these entities only if you pass this policy bundle so if you qualify you can play and

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 if you have projects that happen sooner you get you you get to submit the project and

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 or the access to these credits and then the NPO at that point for that project will determine

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 okay we're going to give you you know five million dollars in credits for this project

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 and it'll show up yeah 80% the project is 120 the feds are putting in 100 the locals

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 batch of 20 dollars is offset by their toll credits so how much you ultimately get depends

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 on how much we build in the time frame while there's still money in the kitty I don't have

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 the number on me but I can we can get it to you as follow-up they have examples of cities

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 from last year how much they each got who applied so we can send that and follow up

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 and I believe how many ever credits you get they're good for the year but in order to

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 reuse them let's say in 2020 we'll have to reapply and just show so you have to show

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 every year in order to use the same credits that you're still meeting all of the policies

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 or the 50% okay so we can get that for you and then okay and then so we've got these

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 policies I kind of went over this last time span I believe it's 12 different categories

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 that we are more than likely meeting and then the ones that we still need to do further

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 and coordination with Council of Governments and internal departments so we've got 12 policies

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 that we've got confirmation that we're satisfying so that puts us over the 10 marks so we've

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 got the the checks for 12 and then we've got five in the category that we're not meeting

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 but are good for the city like you said last time they benefit the city or just good policy

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 and waiting on some answers back and forth so we'll go through these are the 12 that

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 into any any of them specifically if y'all have questions but these are the ones that

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 we currently have policy for here at the city I did want to make one note on securing transportation

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 helping give input onto the top 10 and then helping come up with a plan on how to secure

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 that for this policy as long as we state that we're willing to participate that in that

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 and just make sure that that's something that we are wanting to participate in whether it's

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 staff council I've got confirmation that Council of Governments will be setting up those sessions

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 in the future to start getting cities input so they just want to know that we're willing

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 to participate and would staff tend to sort of tee up a draft or you know some options

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 that was my understanding staff coordination council coordination together helping to give

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 input and identify regionally sound a regional regional structures so that's those 12 the

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 next five are the ones that we're not currently satisfying but we have methods and steps in

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 place that we'd like to take in order to meet the policies because they are good and benefit

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 the city I did want to make a note on this first one idling restrictions we have a memorandum

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 of agreement with TCEQ that basically states that were following the state law on idling

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 restrictions however it expired on December 31st of 18 I've spoken with Catherine Barnett

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 and sustainability and she's got it on her agenda to take that to in the environment

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 committee on the environment and then council hopefully as a consent agenda item to get

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 that back and renewed and that will actually be added to the first list so take us to 13

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 wasn't there a specific dent in city city then specific idling restriction as well well

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 and it's related that is related to our fleet our fleet vehicles internally and so this

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 particular policy with Council of Governments they're referring to any vehicle within the

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 city public or fleet and so this memorandum of agreement states that we're doing that

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 as well in addition to the the fleet city-owned fleet in our clean fleet ordinance be interested

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 in policy options to yes if there's room beyond what the state requires you know that might

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 be worth considering okay I'd love to know you know what those options might be okay

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 and then the next one is parking management these are policies that are focused on reducing

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 excess traffic circulation and they give some examples of what that what that could possibly

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 be and I can go into those if y'all like but we've talked internally as staff as this being

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 something we want to work toward I mean I'm interested would you like to hear more about

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 parking management options today we can provide follow-up if you'd like with just more detail

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 how about a little you know sort of isr to the committee and then you know tentatively

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 put it on the agenda for the next time okay does that include zone parking I believe so

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 they have a bunch of different options on what would qualify and so we can go through

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 all of them if we do at least one we get the check but I know it's you know we want to

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 do good policy yeah the check we're beyond the check we're beyond the check I just what

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 you know it this is just inspiration for us totally interested in your you know your responses

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 to this suggestion definitely okay the third one that we're not meeting but we would like

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 to be meeting is complete streets policy and while we do have reference to this in our

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 comprehensive plan they're looking for a citywide policy that states this and that we're going

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 to be applying these type of initiatives to all future and past projects that we're that

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 we're doing however we do have plans to include this in our mobility plan update so something

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 that will be working towards the next one is wrong way driving we talked about this

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 last time basically they want to see that the city's been making improvements some examples

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 are improvements to help prevent wrong way driving examples including route markers wrong

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 way reflective pavement air pavement arrows they provide a long comprehensive list I have

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 it if you would like to see it I don't know if we have time today just curious to hear

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 you know well I guess you're already telling us you think this is a good idea that we actually

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 have wrong way driving occurring and that you know this like why wouldn't we address

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 that if that if this problem exists right so yeah they have a lot a lot of comprehensive

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 list of things they recommend to prevent wrong way driving to help curb it yeah these are

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 these are all things that you know we can do keep our agenda full you know keep meeting

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 each month some of these we are actually already doing it's a matter of putting it as a policy

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 putting it as a part of our criteria manuals part of our mobility plans part of our different

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 manuals that we use for traffic so it's not per se that we're not doing this it's more

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 of making it formally known and formalizing it and I think part of the wrong way driving

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 is more educational effort so chair a little bit of history back when this policy was initially

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 adopted there was a very shorter list of policies and initially all of these policies started

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 as incentives if you have these policy in place clean fleet then you can get extra points

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 on your selection criteria and they slowly moved over to the stick that if you don't

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 have the policy in place you can't even apply for the program and so when they put this

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 into the last mobility plan for these TDCs the initial list had only those very difficult

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 items that nobody wanted to do so in order to get it to pass the RTC they added stuff

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 that everybody's doing already to make it a little bit easier to get across the threshold

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 so you feel like you're halfway there and then the last one we have on here is the employer

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 trip reduction strategies are we providing those as a city to both they're looking to

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 see if we're providing them both to our employees you know strategies on how to carpool and

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 reduce trips back and forth to work but also they're also interested in if we are providing

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 those to new businesses that come new employers are we giving them educational pieces options

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 on how to reduce trips carpool and so that's kind of the focus of that one they also ask

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 I wanted to put this on here something called tryparkingit.com they recommend using this

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 website kind of platform in our SharePoint internal SharePoint to track our employees

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 side shares that may be another item as well later down the road we have time to get into

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 it today but those are kind of what they're looking at to see if we're doing and recommending

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 and then last three policies still looking into and gathering further research on still

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 good policies for the city though regardless if we get the checkmark or not traffic incident

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 management this is looking at do we have a citywide policy regarding traffic incident

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 management are we tracking regional performance metrics and are we doing a major incident

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 review process I did get confirmation from our fire department that they have all attended

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 traffic incident management training which was one of the checks that we could have gotten

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 to get the credit I'm waiting to get confirmation on that but there's also some good recommendations

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 there past that that the cog is recommending land use strategies I know we talked about

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 this last time they have a lot of different recommendations on policies in place and so

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 I believe we have them in our debt in 2030 comprehensive plan it's just a matter of going

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 through it and finding all of it and showcasing it to council government and then clean construction

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 this is regarding whether or not we have clean construction standards within some of our

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 contract language and so that's something that I'm still working internally to to determine

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 if we are not back and forth with council of governments as well and then was there

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 any questions on that past last one I have a little bit more detailed schedule than last

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 time the early application deadline is due March 15th final application deadlines do

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 April 15th they give that month buffer so that if we submit they can give feedback if

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 there's something we're missing something we thought we were doing and not or vice versa

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 so they'll give us feedback in that month period and then I was told by council of governments

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 in July is when they typically will grant the transportation development credits and

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 let us know how much we're going to receive and then in order to use those towards projects

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 we have to go through the transportation improvement program modification process add the project

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 to the transportation improvement plan in order to use the credits so that process I

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 believe starts in August of 19 when we can submit our project but we can be looking into

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 what projects were interested in before that and have that ready to go and that's what

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 I have for you all is there any questions comments questions my suggestion I'm looking

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 for you know confirmation from my colleagues here would be if there are items that are

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 really just for show but that you know don't change any actual behavior I wouldn't put

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 more time into it but but the items where we would really be potentially you know pursuing

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 good new policies I would say you know schedule met into our agenda and let's do deeper dives

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 on them as you're ready okay okay and that kind of one by one yeah so we can take them

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 up as items just like scooters or anything else okay sounds good make sense yes thank

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 you all for your time thank you and good to know that we're we qualify yeah I was very

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 excited when I got the 12 all right so moving on to item D receive a report and hold the

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 discussion regarding text on system projects in the Denton area to include the 35 express

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 project and I have a request if we could take like one minute to just look at the big picture

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 I'd love to hear you know your one minute version of what is the overall concept you

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 know what are we like is it we I we go through the individual projects and and maybe it is

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 just a list of individual projects but is there a sort of thing text out is aiming for

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 is it that we're going to be ringed by six lane roads or you know what is the big picture

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 it would help me if you could do it in one minute or less you want to do you want to

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 put the map up so I'm gonna pull a map that's because then I'll understand each of the projects

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 you know this can all understand them in the context of what we're trying to build to this

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 message is there a concept good last mobility committee meeting in November this is what

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 was presented and we were trying to overlay some of text up projects these are text up

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 projects in red and then this also these three interchanges along with some of our internal

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 projects that we're working on as far as CIP projects long term as well as some street

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 reconstruct projects that are coming up so we're trying to build this big picture overview

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 of how the city will be under construction with different projects and I think what council

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 member chairs trying to get at is how does text dot look at it long term big picture

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 their individual projects is there anything that they're looking at as far as a big map

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 in the region or within the city limits and the county so I guess it's on now sorry about

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 that so it's a conglomeration of efforts when we get in it's a conglomeration of efforts

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 it's between the county the metropolitan planning organization the local communities but it's

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 looking at regionally how do people move around the entire community as a network so the state

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 obviously has some goals they have long-term goals are looking statewide how do they move

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 people to and from and they've got projections on what they foresee their vehicular traffic

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 looking like where do they move heavy freight where they move more the commuter traffic

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 where those pinch points in the area but then they get into the conversation with us as

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 frequently as possible either through the council of governments or through one-on-one

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 meetings where we get a chance to talk about were the issues that we have associated commuter

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 issues where we exchange items from people getting off the interstate to now they're

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 getting on to the local roads or they're getting on to text dots less traveled highways even

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 though we seem as very highly traveled so their goals and aims are depends on where

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 they are and where they're getting some of the direction but most of it is very localized

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 so so it's a it is kind of what it looks like it's a set of projects to relieve individual

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 pinch points it's not that there's some master plan that we're their master plan it generally

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 goes in line with whatever the MPO they're working around and with metropolitan planning

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 organizations so if they're working with cog they're gonna they're lockstep with cog and

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 what do you see as the long-term vision in the area so one of the major projects that

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 we we've only really heard about and I know John knows more about it John bolster but

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 it's the outer loop so we've heard the outer loop and what that is is if you look at the

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 Dallas Fort Worth area as an overall transportation nexus a corridor that so many people come

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 to and then leave a pass through it is the crossroads for a variety of destinations Houston

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 Austin as well as east west El Paso to the west coast all the way through to Shreveport

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 and back east with all of this coming together in one place that outer loop is designed to

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 provide a faster way of getting people where they want to go so there are a variety of

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 strategies but it's always this constant push of how do I keep up with the aging infrastructure

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 that's always on tech starts mine but then as I'm upgrading the aging infrastructure

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 and meeting the traffic volumes what does that need to be really the local municipalities

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 the cog whoever they're working with in their localized areas they know better than say

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 somebody in Austin they know general principles how much money they have where they're getting

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 federal dollars but as far as was it actually look like what's the purpose that does become

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 something that's that's worked out with the counties and the local offices the cities

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 those have to be done together thanks for hearing me and explaining that sure let's

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 use the remaining time do your deal you know I'm sorry I cast my brakes you had a comment

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 like I just couldn't hear it I would just like like it if you could email the mobility

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 committee that map that you just showed just so that we can have it on hand okay for people

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 that ask okay to share with the public yeah it was in the previous so there we go sorry

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 online so okay definitely share with the public all right so let me just pull the reports

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 good morning again thanks for letting me come back I've been gone a little bit while I was

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 gone it was most of the time I was in Austin working with our friends at the at the headquarters

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 area on the April clear lanes project list that they're going to be putting out and one

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 of the things that's not on this list that we'll talk about is the wishbone between 35w

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 and 35e all the way up to 77 that's the project that there were two projects submitted in

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 the Dallas district this project you know the frontage roads over I-30 in Rockwell County

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 so we'll know it's a 420 million dollar ask on that first project and so we'll know more

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 about that in April but that's why I was gone I wasn't on vacation not that it matters you'd

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 be allowed to have vacation too I think I need you to get that to my wife then okay

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 so what what we do here on this list is just kind of show you an overview of the projects

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 that we are working on that are either under construction have contractors on or engineering

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 working on and the total dollar amount of the infrastructure that's included in these

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 project lists that we're doing so you see the order of magnitude on what your staff

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 is working on with the various partners in order to achieve these projects and this one

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 doesn't include the big wishbone project that we're talking about that we submitted for

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 clear lanes yet so that would add another half a billion dollars to that project list

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 so that's the good news we'll start right off with the bad news MCM and 2181 MCM is

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 a contractor that we've had trouble with from day one they had five contracts in the state

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 of Texas four of them were in Denton County and one of them was in Collin County and they

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 are getting out of the construction business and so at the very end of

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 I'll instruct the universe to hold 11 o'clock for a while so again this is a project that

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 was awarded to MCM they are doing also the city of Denton's water and wastewater reconstruction

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 as part of this project and that's you look at the text that report if you read the

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 narratives mostly what they're doing is moving temporary pavement around to be able to do

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 the water line and the city's utilities first and so that's what they've been working on

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 and at the very end of 2018 I got a call from the district to let me know that the district

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 was probably going to be submitting what they call a 10-day letter to MCM at the first of

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 the year and a 10-day letter is the beginning of the late so a lot of times I'll do 10-day

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 letters and they don't mean it and the contract ignores it they just move on but I was communicated

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 by the district that this 10-day letter is a 10-day letter to get them to perform or

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 they were going to begin the process of defaulting MCM on the contract if that's the case what

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 happens is the bonding company is the state puts a claim on the bonding company terminates

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 the contract with MCM and then goes to the bonding company to exercise their rights as

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 a state to get the bonding company to come in and build 2181 for the price negotiated

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 the problem with that is is that you spend about 10 to 12 months arguing with the bonding

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 company about what has been expended what's been constructed what's remaining to be done

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 and so if we go through that process there's a potential that 2181 would go idle for upwards

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 of a year now we're working really hard to avoid that but MCM is not performing they're

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 clearing out on all of their projects there's several of them that they just walked they

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 started on FM 544 one of my projects in another area of the county at the same time that AGL

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 started on 35 they're still not done they've only got half the road done on 544 and so

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 there's issues related to this contract and I'm certain that I'll either get a question

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 or comment but if not I'm going to move on all right so it gets better because we have

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 no control over their contractors right you are correct all right move on but you can't

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 make it as painful as possible yeah so they'll you know they're going to try to get it done

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 as quickly as possible the district is committed to you know doing this as quickly as possible

419
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,960
 so I haven't heard I've been out of town what that result is but I'll get that to y'all

420
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,920
 probably the next day or so but that's what I was told at the very end of last year so

421
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,960
 your Fort Worth drive project this is a project that when I started working on this I didn't

422
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:43,480
 have any children and now I got one that just graduated from Texas Tech so the project was

423
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:50,080
 awarded to SEMA we awarded it in November we got through the nine or ten year process

424
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:56,000
 with UP and it took us between November and January 2nd to get UP to give us a permit

425
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:03,440
 to do the work they agreed to let us do in the original agreement so SEMA time has started

426
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:11,140
 January 2nd and they are out there doing the yard in the field set up and we will continue

427
00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:18,920
 to have constant updates provided both to we have a technical I mean a on system Task

428
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,880
 Force meeting we do about every three weeks or so this will be on that list to update

429
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,240
 the city and any issues that come up we'll be able to bring the mobility committee as

430
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:35,320
 they come up but this project is finally under construction hallelujah and SEMA is a pretty

431
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:41,520
 decent contractor they did all the work for the 114 170 Parrish Lane work for the county

432
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:49,560
 back in the southern part of the county your I-35E Mayhill project this is a project that

433
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,960
 is fully funded at the forty six point two million dollars we are looking at a ready

434
00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:00,000
 to let at the end of this year so about the time we start to see a little bit of relief

435
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:07,120
 on 288 we're gonna rip all this stuff out now now that you're seeing what 288 looks

436
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:14,160
 like the northbound side that's that 10 lane bridge Mayhill will be 12 underneath it because

437
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,240
 it's got six lanes of traffic coming to it instead of four so maybe it will actually

438
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:23,200
 be a far larger regional movement between the work that the city is doing on Mayhill

439
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:32,320
 to get up to 380 and the fact that 2499 hits 35 there that'll be a very large intersection

440
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:38,400
 for the city and that project's funded LTR is doing the design work so our environment

441
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,920
 we cleared and we're looking at a ready to let of December 2019 and there are there were

442
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,000
 got some other good news on this so there were 12 parcels that we thought we needed

443
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,200
 we're probably going to have a need additional parcels because I'm going to try to where

444
00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:14,240
 did you do the zoom thing see on mine I just use my fingers

445
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:27,200
 so your staff pointed out the Mayhill okay so the 288 project does all the frontage roads

446
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:37,720
 southbound frontage roads and all in the permanent location in the Mayhill through near to 2181

447
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:43,080
 all the frontage roads are on their their permanent location when we initially did the Mayhill

448
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:50,000
 job we stopped past the the ramp in the city brought this to us that we've got this least

449
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:57,760
 last little piece that's not part of the project from about here to the 288 intersection where

450
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:04,520
 it was just missed by all three projects and so what textile agreed to do since we have

451
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:11,960
 that 361 million dollars to apply to 35 is to go ahead and take LTRA contract and include

452
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,760
 the northbound frontage road all the way to the tie-in where the permanent frontage road

453
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,860
 terminates just south 288 on the northbound side so once we're done with Mayhill everything

454
00:46:22,860 --> 00:46:28,960
 from just north of 288 to just south of Mayhill will be in its permanent position related

455
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,920
 to the infrastructure on the ultimate schematic so and because of that okay where am I where's

456
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:47,920
 the report so because of that it says right here textile anticipates addition of possible

457
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,560
 six or more parcels with the expanded project limit so as we go north to the towards 288

458
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,760
 there may be some parcels we have to acquire there as well in their permanent configuration

459
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,840
 so good news is December 2019 should go into construction pretty close to that time frame

460
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,560
 it's fully funded once we're completed everything will be permanently in its permanent location

461
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:17,040
 related to the frontage roads that minimizes any improvements that we do in the future

462
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:27,520
 for the ultimate will be inside the right away footprint okay OHL and the I can't say

463
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,080
 that here the project that I love to love main point I want to make here is is that

464
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,560
 they're building the northbound main lanes now they're saying that in February they'll

465
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,440
 flip all the traffic up to those northbound lanes and start building the southbound main

466
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:52,480
 line so it was November then December was January in December now it's February in

467
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:58,240
 January it's like tomorrow right tomorrow never comes because it turns into the day

468
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:06,720
 but this time they really mean it I don't know can I quote you on that it's OHL they're

469
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:12,600
 headquartered out of Madrid so there's a lot of difficulty there but they have had some

470
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:19,960
 marine issues so it's only 80 percent their fault but anyway the completion date is saying

471
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,880
 July 2019 that's probably not the case we're renegotiating or redoing the schedule now

472
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,000
 and once we get that we'll provide the stamp and report and let you know what it is some

473
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,320
 clarification that the brinker underpass will not be complete is that what you're saying

474
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:46,200
 or just the so the highway part okay so once we the reason we can't put brinker under is

475
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,040
 because we have to build the main lanes there first and so that's the whole bridge structure

476
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,520
 for brinker has to be there in order for us to use brinker but in order to do that the

477
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,400
 whole bridge structure for 288 has to be there as well and so essentially that means that's

478
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,560
 a long way of saying yes the it won't open till right at the end of the project is when

479
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:15,080
 brinker scheduled to open according to OHL they're not going to open it early and we

480
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:24,040
 offer the money the county did the Buckees offered money but they are just not interested

481
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:35,160
 did they offer beaver nuggets i'll have to get back to you on that i'm not sure so 35

482
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,920
 north this project has a schematic approval in january we had to make some changes because

483
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:46,380
 of a historical form in the northern area and keep in mind we need this project cleared

484
00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:53,560
 because part of this project is part of our wishbone project because you will note 77

485
00:49:53,560 --> 00:50:00,760
 is right in here somewhere i think i think that's 7 1173 our project from the wishbone

486
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:07,800
 goes all the way from 35 w all the way to past 380 to it past 288 to 77 so we can tie

487
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,640
 77 in with 1173 the way your city thoroughfare plan shows because if we don't do anything

488
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,560
 but just get past 380 all we're doing is moving the bottleneck further north we got to get

489
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:25,960
 past 77 so this project will be cleared by spring of next year which is in the same time

490
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,160
 we're going to hear about clear lanes on this wishbone project but part of this project

491
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:38,000
 is included in that wishbone ask i know we're running out of time but both of us we've heard

492
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:44,120
 plenty of complaints about the exit at 380 and i-35 and how it's worse than it's ever

493
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:49,160
 been and so i see both of those roads up here on this map now so if this is in the appropriate

494
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,040
 time but i remember i recall you mentioning it and saying something was going to happen

495
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,480
 but so what we were initially we're going to do is what we need to do to solve that

496
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,400
 problem is build what's in the ultimate which is your braided rent because what you have

497
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:07,160
 is you have at grade on ramps and off ramps in the same location and everybody's fighting

498
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,320
 to get on while everybody's trying to fighting to get off what the ultimate does is take

499
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:18,000
 those two to those two actions and separates them so the on has a bridge over and off goes

500
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,720
 under and they don't conflict but that just moves the problem to 380 and so we're going

501
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:30,600
 all the way to 77 with this next phase so yes that's included in this project and remember

502
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,840
 it's essentially environmentally cleared well it is environmentally cleared it's just a

503
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:41,400
 matter of getting it designed and under construction is there anything that we can do as to help

504
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:49,720
 move that along you say individual parts of the ultimate like the braided or because it's

505
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:54,120
 a problem now right you don't wait five years because i got a i got a church and one of

506
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,040
 the lead ushers lives out there and i can't get to church without him telling me 15 minutes

507
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,440
 of trauma you know he's church supposed to be uplifting and i'm gonna have to deal with

508
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,520
 disgruntled people right yeah if there's anything that we can do currently in the in the process

509
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,960
 because the ultimate is great you got a lot of engineers in the room i should they're

510
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,640
 probably can answer something first time so it's an excellent question and one of the

511
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,040
 chief concerns that we have with that offering up there at 380 is is a lot of that stack

512
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,280
 up is that you have a significant amount of residential traffic combined with the commercial

513
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,440
 traffic trying to get to all the wonderful things that are happening right there so i

514
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,160
 know pre tam has been working with text dot as they develop the plan that john's talking

515
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,280
 about about putting in another braided ramp just north of that now then nothing's been

516
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,920
 finalized on that that's been very preliminary discussions but that ramp would drop off at

517
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,640
 windsor so that's something that we're in the process of working with text on that would

518
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,200
 separate some of this traffic so the folks that are trying to get to their homes that

519
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,960
 live off windsor they would have an alternative rather than getting off at university they

520
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,560
 could go past in the left-hand lane and then take the next ramp and the folks that are

521
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,960
 trying to get to sam's walmart whatever they're getting to they can exit right at university

522
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,840
 so that's one effort but it also plays into why we're pushing so hard to get bonnie bray

523
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:28,320
 complete is to have that alternative route for some of this traffic but we were also

524
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,040
 told that the intersection at 380 and bonnie bray isn't going to be improved and that's

525
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:42,440
 where the most congestion is so the intersection at 380 and the interstate do you say interstate

526
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,000
 or bonnie bray bonnie bray and 380 like you were saying we're pushing it to bonnie bray

527
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,980
 but that's already a congested area there and that's not it is it is something that

528
00:53:50,980 --> 00:53:55,200
 we are looking at with both phase five of bonnie bray and phase six how do those two

529
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,280
 get adjusted to make that happen more effectively there are some things that will happen to

530
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,280
 do that now as far as getting extra lanes on university that's not in the cards but

531
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:11,360
 we are looking at how do you resolve that situation with some of the other items okay

532
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,800
 it's just a big deal yeah i guess you'll be interested in so when you talked about the

533
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:22,720
 overall concept for for dallas district in this northern part of the i would say north

534
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:28,080
 part of the lake you know from the lake north this is their number one problem in their

535
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:35,080
 district is the 35 e 35 w up to 288 trauma and so that's why they submitted it to the

536
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:40,920
 clear lanes and we think we got a pretty good shot at getting it so and what we can do then

537
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:47,840
 is once we get it designed if there's some ways to do some breakout jobs at that point

538
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:54,280
 we can maybe look at it that way i'd be very interested in seeing kind of a timeline of

539
00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:00,680
 relief you know sure so people are frustrated we're going to put together a exhibit that

540
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:07,520
 shows the wishbone itself and then we'll highlight what we're thinking the plan is and then bring

541
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:13,640
 it back to you but if if there's nothing in the timeline that's feels soonish might want

542
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,440
 to think harder about that you know what parts of it could happen sooner than other parts

543
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,840
 well so you got it we got defined soon but i know you're not five years right so some

544
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,400
 of it will be felt when we do bonnie bray again that's why we're pushing bonnie bray

545
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:34,440
 so hard right now is that we can do something there where we have full control more or less

546
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:41,440
 till you get to right at 380 proper the interstate we have way less control over but we can still

547
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,100
 communicate i mean yes you know we're interfacing with the public and they just need to understand

548
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:51,680
 that we get it and you know text out we have conversations with them we have conversations

549
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,800
 with you you know yes we ought to be able to say something intelligible back and we'll

550
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,600
 put together i'll give you a sheet on it and give you the plan on it and we'll have the

551
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,040
 schematic that was in the ultimate so you'll have some information that you can just without

552
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,200
 having to just wing it but uh timeline of when things actually hit sure most important

553
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,840
 part all right i'm sorry i don't want to belabor it and and who's who's responsible for telling

554
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:20,160
 us 11 o'clock you know we turn to a pumpkin i just want to see if i can negotiate a little

555
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:29,640
 can we buy 10 minutes i mean yeah i think i think 10 minutes yeah so uh the other thing

556
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:37,800
 i do want to point out um this particular area panhandle which is i think right south

557
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:44,800
 here this is panhandle going in and this is currently under construction as well as this

558
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:51,960
 portion being connected here and one of the this will definitely add as a relief that

559
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,240
 people that really want to get off on this area that don't want to deal with the congestion

560
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:03,000
 can actually get off at panhandle and get off there are other connections that are being

561
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,960
 made and we're currently working on this signal yeah so once this great answer creates a little

562
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:17,600
 bit of natural relief so anyone that's backing off here will start getting shifted into the

563
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,600
 retail portion of razor ranch that definitely belongs on the timeline of relief yeah so

564
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:28,200
 the other thing i was going to suggest to request is uh just don't let the police enforce

565
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,520
 jumping off of the frontage road into the so we just drive over the dirt because every

566
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:39,960
 time i do that there's always cops over there and just like stop enforcing this help the

567
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:46,760
 area out a little bit just kidding i would never do that okay so 35 w main lanes this

568
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,560
 is the ultimate from basically the railroad track on 35 w all the way to the candle line

569
00:57:52,560 --> 00:58:00,760
 it's a it's a six lane divided urban ultimate it's a six lane divided rural ultimate which

570
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,280
 means they'll have the wide medians and the wide parkways and the reason we're doing that

571
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,000
 is because the managed lane systems that's coming up out of fort worth we want to continue

572
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,960
 that at some point in the future when the policy and the paradigm comes back to its

573
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:21,480
 senses and recognize that managed lanes move traffic so if we develop it as a six lane

574
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,820
 rural we have a footprint that allow us to convert it to a managed lane project that

575
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:32,160
 project is essentially going through environmental clearance but we have that and i'll bring

576
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:40,680
 a sheet next time on your report from 1171 i guess that's about right here from 1171

577
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:49,200
 all the way to the railroad track uh tex dot is hired jacobs formerly i'll i'll go fast

578
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:57,080
 sorry uh because i have like seven minutes of concluding items so all right all right

579
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,040
 i'm done so we got jacobs on contract with tex dot to do the ps and e the construction

580
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:09,920
 plans for 35 w for the frontage roads from 1171 all the way to the railroad track just

581
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,600
 south of uh the split and that project is what the city of the county is working with

582
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,360
 tex dot to get funded so ultimately in the five to ten year period the city of denton

583
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:30,120
 has a significant frontage on 35 w because of your city limit lines that will be open

584
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,600
 for development because frontage roads create development so we're doing the frontage roads

585
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,320
 first and so although the schematic for the ultimate is just kind of moving on on its

586
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:44,400
 own we're pulled out the frontage road project and we have somebody doing the design on that

587
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,960
 to get it ready to go to construction in the next three to five years which will open up

588
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:54,400
 economic development on your southwest part of the county city 380 east the project is

589
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,720
 about 130 something million dollars it's ready to let in may of 2021 we're doing the ps and

590
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:05,720
 e which is construction documents and acquiring right away we have 95 there are 100 parcels

591
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,560
 95 have been made we don't have any an ed yet so i'll just keep updating you on that

592
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,440
 because the right away acquisition is the critical path on this item because we can't

593
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:20,520
 move the utilities until we get the right away acquired and the utilities are ubiquitous

594
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:26,400
 in this corridor so we got to get on that pretty quick luke 28 west we're talking about

595
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:33,400
 having it cleared um in about 18 months or so two years i don't know why it's taking

596
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:39,440
 so long but it's it is and then uh this is another project where text i was driving us

597
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:45,080
 to move on this we're anticipating it at a minimum doing the northbound frontage road

598
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,760
 first because it's on the inside which allows the city to attach its infrastructure to the

599
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:57,160
 ultimate configuration but we're not giving up on the total project as its cost once we

600
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:05,600
 get the project ready to let sometime in 2026 15 15 uh it's a 32 million dollar project

601
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:12,960
 we have ltr working on this the um the 60 schematic was submitted december 21st so we'll

602
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,120
 make sure i'm pretty certain they send that out to the city as well if not we're having

603
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,360
 our meeting i guess thursday or whatever we'll make sure you'll have it so y'all can make

604
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:30,760
 provide comments 1173 uh this is a project that uh is now in the mobility plan so garver

605
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,460
 can move forward with environmental clearance before they were just doing a feasibility

606
01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:38,760
 study this county is going to write a letter to the state saying that they will fund this

607
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:44,440
 project as a local locally funded regionally significant corridor which will allow text

608
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,740
 dot to extend garver's contract to do the environmental document and the construction

609
01:01:48,740 --> 01:01:56,680
 plans and that is it thank you do we have uh we're going to just blast through because

610
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,880
 we have three minutes thank you very much uh uh anything you want to say regarding item

611
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:11,200
 e staff report is that you um i know pre tam and others uh had some verbal updates uh the

612
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,920
 one only thing that i wanted to cover here on the acm update is the acm update section

613
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:23,480
 correct um on number number six dcta uh as you all know uh former counselor sarah bagheri

614
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:30,040
 is a new dcta board member representing denton uh she did attend their first their first

615
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:35,400
 board meeting in december uh they have an upcoming meeting uh in in january uh just

616
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,920
 in a dialogue between myself and her she'd asked for uh the opportunity to come to mobility

617
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,040
 at some point in the near future to get some feedback as to what are the the key areas

618
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:51,340
 that the city of denton mobility council would like to get give direction to her so she knows

619
01:02:51,340 --> 01:02:56,920
 to represent the community in the best way so and really what mechanism would that be

620
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,000
 appropriate for you all would it be just her coming out some scheduled meeting in the near

621
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:06,280
 future and just do a verbal discussion with her about some of the key priorities or just

622
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:15,120
 some just be thinking about that so we can communicate that to her um quick one i do

623
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,120
 want to set up a walking tour i think we've asked several times i wanted to do it today

624
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,720
 but uh we're going to run short of time i do want to take a time and if c we can come

625
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:31,760
 over the time and date that we all can agree and be out of the square and just have a great

626
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:38,840
 agenda is the item and just have a quick walk for an hour so

627
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:52,920
 i don't have an issue um if you do that you can see what time we get out of here tonight

628
01:03:52,920 --> 01:04:07,440
 um anything else are coming up concluding items and about 30 seconds yeah uh i have

629
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:17,480
 one where are we on ways ways um do you have an update or we can so um we are currently

630
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:23,880
 working as far as i know we're currently working on the software component integrating it with

631
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:31,560
 our it so we um we have come up with we want to make it in live update but we have come

632
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:37,480
 up with maps that are statically updated it's not live update so we're trying to get to

633
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,800
 a point where it's achieved to our software where we constantly update our system in our

634
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,280
 softwares where we have different types of software for different departments we're integrating

635
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:54,160
 that information the map that you saw was from different softwares being integrated

636
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,840
 and then connecting that to the live update so we're running into some of the issues

637
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:04,240
 technical issues of security what happens what kind of access they get what what type

638
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:11,440
 of information is pushed out so um we're working with it closely on that i think we had some

639
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,400
 sort of release date i think katie if you have anything more to add yes

640
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:26,080
 hi again i don't have the release date um but i know that we like you said we've been working

641
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,800
 with it to get our street segments from our construction report um into the format that

642
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:36,560
 could be consumed by ways um and i can follow up with more specifics once i get back to the

643
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:42,000
 office if y'all would like we'd love to know projected timing and then who who is on our side specifically

644
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:49,200
 um the liaison two ways so i know is there someone um so i know that uh program management

645
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:54,560
 office my boss hailey salazar is working with communications and coordination with technology

646
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:02,880
 services so i would say point of contact hailey salazar um and todd has so i know the initial

647
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:08,560
 planned work component so the items we knew that were going to go out to construction an initial

648
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,960
 push two ways has been there as matter of fact i'm looking at one of them right now you'll see

649
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:18,560
 segments of the roadway on ways that have a circle with a little white line on it so it's a red

650
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,640
 circle with a white line and if you click on it it'll tell you i'm looking at this one it's a

651
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,320
 water drainage improvement on spencer road so though some of those items are already starting

652
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:33,280
 to populate it's the more dynamic items that we're trying to get our arms wrapped around how we push

653
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:39,280
 but those planned items that we know are happening they are already populating on ways just uh i don't

654
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,960
 know if we have like a one-to-one relationship with them uh like we're we're actually negotiating

655
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:53,040
 but uh i'm i'm gonna close this close the meeting in the second year but i just want to reiterate

656
01:06:53,040 --> 01:07:00,320
 my suggestion that we pursue a co-branded app i think it'd be awesome for den you know for our

657
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:06,240
 communication to just have that one thing to say and then that thing says that all this activity

658
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:12,880
 that's frustrating you as part of improving den i have to request that the hickory street options

659
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:20,400
 come before this committee uh really soon for the bike yes yes so our plan was to have an isr

660
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:26,880
 for this friday packet and then we can come back to city council that way we get enough background

661
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,600
 information i think it's been a year and a half or a couple years yeah i see all the work trucks

662
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,640
 there at that point and i'm like well we really need to figure out something fast yes so um and

663
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:42,480
 then the next just a timeline on east sherman um what the widening timeline is and what the

664
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:48,320
 improvements are going to be all in one section so that that's available for us as we come up to the

665
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:55,600
 items as they come to us for vote for so this is sherman at the loop yes and then east out on the

666
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:02,000
 north side yeah okay yep thank you that's a large thing uh okay anything else nope good okay i'm

667
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:13,840
 going to uh uh close our our meeting at 10.05 plus four minutes i mean 11.05 plus four minutes