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 Welcome to the City of Denton's Mobility Committee, Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 10 a.m.

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 Council Work Session Room. Quorum is present and we're convening this

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 regular meeting. We have a section here for citizens comment on the agenda items.

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 Do we have any kind of citizens comments that you all know of? No? Okay. We'll move on to our

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 items for individual consideration. A, MC 23-006, consider approval of the minutes

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 of January 25th, 2023. B, MC 23-007, receive a report and hold a

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 discussion regarding the City of Denton's Transportation Mobility Project status

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 report. Oh, you've already got it set. Show me where. Up top. That way. Got it, got it.

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 This it? No. All right. We're using this or those? Got it. John Polster, Innovative

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 Transportation Solutions, here to give a report on the City of Denton

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 Transportation Mobility Projects, on system projects within the city and

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 impacting the city. First of all, we do a summary on the dollar amounts. We are

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 essentially working on about four billion dollars worth of improvements

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 around the area. 2181, we are looking at having this project closed out. I'll go

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 to the report from TechStut. We're looking at probably March of next year,

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 of this year, to be completed. Primarily, it is cleanup on the the sidewalks,

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 striping, and then from a contractual standpoint, it's a close out on working

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 with the city and TechStut on the contractor and the damage with DME stuff.

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 And so that's part of what the close out does, is close out all of the claims. And

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 you know, Becky and staff have been on top of that from the moment it happened,

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 I think probably a year ago. So we'll get that resolved. 35E Mayhill, right now

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 we're doing utilities. You see this is a look, see if I can get all of them on here.

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 There's a lot of utilities that we're we're moving and it impacts the project

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 as in the ready to let, and we are anticipating being ready to let at the

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 end of this year. This project has about 95 million. This project, when we first

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 started doing it, it was about 38. And then we realized that we needed to extend

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 the northbound frontage road because we built the southbound frontage road when

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 we did the brinker. So we added the northbound frontage road and then we

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 realized that nobody wants to stop at brinker when they go through the light

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 between Mayhill and 288. So we added the braid ramp there and so then that plus

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 inflation we're at about a hundred and three million and by the time we get to

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 23 for ready to let, we'll have those funds available. And the let date

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 currently says June of 2025 because that's what shows up in the unified

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 transportation plan. But if we get it ready to let in December, they'll move

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 the let date up to the probably with January or February 2024. And then you

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 merge your big project between the 235s all the way up to 77. Again this project

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 is in a it's in November 2023 let and that is the actual month of let. And the

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 good news is for this project is we're we're a little under on the project but

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 the very next project I'm going to show you is over by is underestimate by

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 exactly the same amount so they're simply going to roll the numbers from

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 the larger project up onto this job so we won't be impacted by the 150

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 something million dollars we're over. And again it's utilities that are the

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 critical path item everything else is ready to go. We're just moving through

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 utilities and right now we're on track for a for that let date in November of

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 23. So by the end of this year that this whole chunk of 35 from the merged north

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 will go under the knife and then about nine months later Mayhill it'll be

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 horrible but necessary. So here you'll see that we're at 792 we have 661 so

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 we're flipping the cost so we can cover the Delta on the merge which is our

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 priority project and this project will be ready to let based on the utilities

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 in December of this year and then they are scheduled for the funding years for

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 each of those segments and consecutive years so once the merge goes under

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 construction a year later the southern part of the northern section goes under

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 construction and then a year later the northern part of the northern section

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 goes under construction. And that's just saying we're working on utilities. You're

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 at 35 W frontage roads so two things to report let me make sure yeah two things

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 report here is we got the money to do what we thought was going to the cost of

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 the frontage roads from 20 from basically the loop south to 407 and then

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 the price went up significantly so we're working on figuring out how to cover

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 that and the second one is textile and the council of governments not that y'all

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 care per se but the remaining segment from 407 south to Texas Motor Speedway

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 they've got WSP which is doing this section in the north on contract to

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 begin the design on that segment so all of 35 W will be being designed for

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 construction.

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 Frontage roads north to the split. Is that anywhere on the horizon? So there's a gap between the

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 merge and this one where essentially right around the railroad track the

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 merge goes just to the north of the railroad track and this project stops at

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 2449 because basically all that is is floodplain yeah and it's very expensive

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 and so we're waiting for the main lane project to pick up that portion of the

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 frontage road. I also have a question. Is there any clue any kind of toll coming up

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 through there? So this is frontage roads so no no toll on the frontage. But so the

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 the long answer is we're building it as a rural highway which is the same

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 footprint as a toll manage lane so what you see coming out of the south through

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 Fort Worth up to 170 is three general purpose lanes in two toll lanes in each

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 direction they call it a 3223. The intent has always been to carry that cross

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 section all the way to the merge because the merge when you get to the merge in

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 the 35 project up to 77 that's already been cleared as a toll manage lane so in

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 the future when we do 35e through Denton in its permanent location you'll have

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 toll manage lanes just like you do south of the lake all the way to 380 and then

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 what we're doing is we're clearing a footprint for a rural highway which is

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 the same footprint for the urban 3223 frontage roads are in the same location

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 regardless build the frontage roads wait till the paradigm shift changes and then

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 come back and re clear it and redesign it as a toll manage lane. I should probably put

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 that note in there but I don't want to tip Boston off on what we're doing. All

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 right your 380 project out to 377 it's under construction and where we meet

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 fairly regularly on that to make sure that everything's going according to the

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 plan and right now when you look at the outstanding items we're a little bit

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 behind our schedule but we're working on catching that up towards the end of the

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 second phase all right loop 288 West frontage roads and it's actually when I

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 say frontage roads we're we're designing the frontage roads and the grade

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 separations but in order to do that we have to lay out a lot of the main lanes

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 so this is actually a freeway section but we're we're going after the frontage

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 roads and right now the hundred and ninety million represents a frontage

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 road in both directions both northbound and southbound but you know probably go

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 up and then come back down by the time we're out in 26 ready to actually go to

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 construction with it. The 280 East US 380 project this is essentially to take 380

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 because we're ultimately three it'll be a freeway and they'll tie into the loop

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 as we want to convert it to a freeway by adding frontage roads and then again the

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 project we just showed you takes it on around to 35 W so we're doing the

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 frontage roads on the existing part of the loop and you'll see this area right

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 here we're looking for a more direct connection between 380 and 288 because

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 of the speed of movement of the traffic if it's a freeway we meet every two

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 weeks I think with the city staff Becky and her group to make sure because

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 there's a lot of development going on this corridor and we have to make sure

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 that we know the very latest information as we go through this process. I'm

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 hearing the term freeway huh what's the definition of a freeway and also what is

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 380 considered now okay 380 is an arterial because it's all your crossings

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 are at grade and signalized a freeway is when you have great separated movements

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 and so like on 35 you when you want to go from Denton to Dallas you don't have

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 any cross streets that you have to stop at it's just a free movement so 288 has

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 main lanes out there now and we're the city and the county and textile are

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 controlling access to those main lanes by permit but by ordinance because we

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 don't want to have anybody coming onto a road that's traveling at 60 70 miles an

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 hour so in order for development to occur along that section of the loop

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 which there's a lot of open space up there that wants to develop we have to

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 come back in and build in frontage roads and grade separations and you can kind

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 of see the major areas the three major areas we know of that will be grade

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 separated along this section of 288 so it'll be you'll be able to drive

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 basically from 35 all the way east to 380 once we're done with 288 without

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 stopping at any cross street 380 is an arterial like I say now we're going to

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 convert it this project that's under construction right now is converting it

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 to what's called a super street which means that the major cross streets on

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 380 are great separated 428 720 navel legacy until those are all great

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 separated Mayhill some other third one I can't remember right now those are all

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 still at grade so you'll you'll be able to move through it faster but you'll

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 still have places you have to stop

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 thank you yes ma'am and so we pull this out as a separate item so you can see it

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 because you have a Bonnie Bray project that goes all the way from vintage all

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 the way north or actually further south of vintage all the way through

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 paralleling 35 W and 35 and this is the last segment that ties into the loop but

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 if you look on the loop project this part of the loop 288 project is this part

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 that we're showing you in more detail so Westwood formerly known as PK the

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 county's paying Westwood to do the the environmental clearance and a schematic

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 for the freeway on 288 it also includes this portion of Bonnie Bray because we

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 have to environmentally clear it because tech start and cog are funding this

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 portion and for them to fund it it has to be cleared environmentally so it's

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 just a subset of the previous project FM 1515 continue to move towards a ready

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 to let date of October 2024 our schedule was pushed back a little bit due to a

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 couple of items that we needed to change Peter bill that asked us to make some

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 changes that we felt were warranted and we had to make a couple of design

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 changes along the way on the way operations of it and then we had to make

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 some improvements at the tie-in of the 35 merged project so we're out there 2024

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 as a ready to let project 1173 so this project half is kind of got half moving

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 on this project we are schematically clearing everything but when we get it

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 environmentally clear we're going to focus primarily on the right of

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 acquisition on the section to the east on Barthol road because we want to try

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 to get this portion at least past the railroad track included in the 35 merge

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 project and so that's we're basically working on design oh and for those of

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 you living crumb we're going to truncate the project just east of the railroad

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 track from a construction standpoint we will clear it all the way to 156 because

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 when we come in and do the reconstruction of 1173 and realignment

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 will resurface and repave that portion of 156 we won't add capacity but we'll

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 put you new put put new asphalt on the ground outer loop the big green fuzzy

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 thing yeah so we're we're having constant meetings on this there's a lot

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 of going on out there we have had a very good meeting with core of engineers it's

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 all running together prior to today and they understand what we're doing and

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 they are in support and one of the things we needed the core to do for us

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 is we get a lot of people asking us well why do we got to go down 428 why can't

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 you go across the dam why can't you do this why can't you do that and the

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 answer we've told them is that the core of engineers told us that the only place

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 are really going to be a team player on is crossing green belt at 428 because

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 it's already an existing crossing and all we got to do is work to enhance it

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 and it'll be wider but we'll mitigate all that and so what we asked the quarter

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 do is to communicate to us in a clear term right not core talk that they're

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 not going to they're going to make a very difficult for us to go anywhere else

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 but 428 and we need them to say it in a clear manner so there's alternatives

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 that we're looking at that we have to dismiss for some reason that are the ones

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 to go across the dam of course the core is never going to let you touch the dam

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 and so we're we need to get them to tell us the only place that's viable for them

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 is the 428 crossing because that'll eliminate half the alternatives we're

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 looking at and we got to get down to two plus a no build to clear set pretty much

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 on the eat on the West at Milam based on the city's thoroughfare plan the

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 county's thoroughfare plan and that 35 jobs going to go to construction next

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 year it sets the outer loop at Milam so that's already been environmentally

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 cleared and then we got to pick it up somewhere in Collin County and if you go

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 over to Collin County side where we built the northbound frontage road all

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 the way to Gainesville Gainesville Grayson County you'll see there's a road

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 that ties into our frontage road that says outer loop because it's one of the

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 frontage roads for the outer loop that Collin County is already building so

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 our our eastern point is roughly set our middle point is roughly set in our

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 western point is roughly set and we're wiggling in between those three you know

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 set points so it looks like it's going to be closer to Aubrey than it is to

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 yes so if it goes along the thoroughfare plan it'll come up and over Aubrey hit

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 428 and then come down to Milam Road and Milam is right here and 428 is right

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 here so how you get from here to here there are various alternatives and then

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 how you get from here around Aubrey back to here there's various alternatives

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 but there are also which we have currently people asking us to not start

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 at the outer loop start up here go across the top of the dam and come you

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 know south of Sanger so you know we get comments we had to address them and the

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 Corps can solve a lot of that they just get us that statement that they said

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 they would all right Elman Locust so we I think we have a game plan on that the

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 county is participating with the city on this in the bomb program that was one of

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 the things that Becky had really pushed right at the end on the bomb program and

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 so the county is looking at I'm meeting with the court members I think March

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 8th yeah that's what I told you okay that's right I'm like a horrible liar

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 March 8th to try to nail down everything and your staff has communicated to the

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 county pretty clearly early on what their priorities are this is one of the

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 priorities and so you should see a very more clear plan on this starting

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 probably in April time frame and I will since I'm talking about Becky's job I'll

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 ask her if she wants to add to it I think the only thing I would add is

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 what's highlighted in yellow at the bottom is John specifically talking

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 about everything really kind of north of the courthouse when we're having those

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 constant conversations it's tied into the portion south of the courthouse but

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 I know I mentioned this before but we have submitted and reviewed all of the

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 overall roadway design for the southern portion everyone's in agreement and

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 Texan is working on the memo that has to go to the Commission which is in Austin

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 for their review so then as we've mentioned you will receive we will see

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 an agreement come back in some form it's just taking those next steps to take

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 that roadway off system through that process so that that is a process we're

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 working through but we're moving we're moving in the positive manner and we're

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 we're one of the early ones in since they changed the rules on a lot of these

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 things so we're all being used as guinea pigs on what the right verbiage is to

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 submit so we submit draft and they comment before we actually submit it

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 officially and they come back and say change these words add this information

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 stuff like that it's Tom fullery and the only thing different is I offer to give

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 you all the categories so if you see cat 1 cat 2 cat 3 cat 4 on my report as for

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 funding these are the various sundry funding categories primarily the ones

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 that we care about a category 2 which is metro urban which is federal dollars for

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 on system projects category 4 is statewide connectivity so 35 if a road

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 leaves the region it's eligible for connectivity 635 and 820 would not be

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 eligible because they're loops they don't leave the region 380 eligible

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 category 5 is your C Mac air quality so because we're in non-attainment we have

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 access to those and then category 7 is your it's metropolitan mobility and

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 rehabilitation but the officials name for that category 7 from the federal

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 standpoint you'll hear me reference it as STBG funds or surface transportation

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 block grant funds and those are funds that are still federal but that can be

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 spent on any type of project whether it's on system or off system as long as

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 it's a collector and above and you environmentally clear it so the outer

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 loop currently is going to be falling into the category 7 category until

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 textile claims it is an on system project safety of course and then

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 category 11 is is district discretionary so if the district engineer wants to

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 prioritize a project she can do that with her money that she gets in

00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:46.360
 category 11 and then category 12 says strategic priority but basically it's

00:23:46.360 --> 00:23:50.520
 Commission discretionary funds and then that dollar amount in category 12 has

00:23:50.520 --> 00:23:55.680
 been going up steadily since governor Abbott's been governor and chairman

00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.880
 bugs been chair because they're running you I don't know if you've seen but they

00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:06.680
 a lot of the these commissioners for the Transportation Commission don't last

00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:12.880
 very long because there's a that's being run more like a secretary of

00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:18.700
 transportation than it is a commission so there's a lot of concerns that we

00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:23.400
 have on the way category 12 was being funded but we don't say anything in

00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.640
 public because we don't get in trouble

00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:45.800
 little joke there that's all I got any other questions thank you so much I was

00:24:45.800 --> 00:25:04.000
 very informative thank you thank you yes that's what we need honesty okay well

00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:15.640
 we'll move on to see MC 23 - zero zero nine receive a report is this is this the

00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:21.360
 same did we switch it around or receive a report hold a discussion and give

00:25:21.360 --> 00:25:25.520
 direction regarding the innovative transportation solutions scheduled to

00:25:25.520 --> 00:25:31.440
 give the city of transportation mobility project status report so the request

00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:36.520
 from the last meeting was to talk about whether or not mr. pollster was going to

00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:40.440
 attend at every single meeting and make a presentation and because the updates

00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:46.680
 from month to month or not in some folks eyes maybe as great as what you know

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:51.480
 might be expected as you can tell on a lot of these projects there's a lot of

00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.800
 things happening but whether or not that's something you want to hear so the

00:25:54.800 --> 00:26:01.040
 purpose of this item is really to discuss how often you would like to have

00:26:01.040 --> 00:26:06.040
 mr. pollster come in and make these types of presentations you know staff

00:26:06.040 --> 00:26:11.840
 goes to a meeting monthly with tech stop where we review the same information

00:26:11.840 --> 00:26:16.680
 and we also work and provided in the Friday report so it'll be in this week's

00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:21.140
 Friday report just as a council update so really it was just kind of a

00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:24.840
 conversation to talk about how often you would like to see he's he's scheduled to

00:26:24.840 --> 00:26:28.960
 come monthly he's fine with coming monthly and I think there's some

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:32.840
 questions about time frame and and calendar specifically so I'll let y'all

00:26:32.840 --> 00:26:35.440
 kind of talk about that but that's really what the purpose of this action

00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:40.680
 on us yes sir

00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:50.880
 that goes over pretty much all the information we have here and is he in

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.800
 that meeting as well yes sir he leads that meeting myself

00:26:53.800 --> 00:27:00.080
 Trevor other folks attend this is almost identical the packet and that we go

00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:03.560
 through the only thing that really changes is if there's any updates that

00:27:03.560 --> 00:27:07.640
 need to be made before he makes this presentation we received the latest

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:12.280
 version at the time of this meeting so there are sometimes changes that are

00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:16.840
 made so when you say you receive it at this meeting then it in this meeting is

00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:19.960
 the first time you're hearing the update or you get it ahead of this meeting and

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.760
 then or there's sometimes he's presenting things that you're not aware

00:27:23.760 --> 00:27:29.440
 of and because of the change between text I mean you see those no sorry I

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.840
 wasn't clear on that we sit in the on system meeting it's a meeting between

00:27:32.840 --> 00:27:38.560
 the county the city and textile and mr. Polster provides the report Travis

00:27:38.560 --> 00:27:44.120
 Campbell who is the former area engineer who is now one of the assistant district

00:27:44.120 --> 00:27:49.000
 area or district engineers in that textile at Dallas office he actually goes

00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.800
 through the whole report we talk about if there's any questions concerns time

00:27:52.800 --> 00:27:57.880
 frame funding we give updates we you know sometimes mention things that maybe

00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.840
 have happened such as an accident or a concern so it's really a vetting meeting

00:28:02.840 --> 00:28:07.840
 for stakeholder and then from that meeting they make any updates that need

00:28:07.840 --> 00:28:10.840
 to happen and then we're sent the final report to include as a part of the

00:28:10.840 --> 00:28:15.600
 mobility packet but we're present during that and an active role player I mean my

00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:20.040
 only thought is I mean if there's a if I mean if he comes and presents every

00:28:20.040 --> 00:28:25.680
 month to from my perspective he doesn't have to go over everything that really

00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.600
 hasn't had much of a change I mean it just out here it is this is the major

00:28:29.600 --> 00:28:33.400
 change since last month because we're just going over the same stuff but

00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.240
 obviously if there's a change in an update and so forth look you know it's

00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:41.280
 good to hear that but so I don't know I mean I've only been just a few of these

00:28:41.280 --> 00:28:48.320
 so I don't know if it changes monthly but it's just sure those are just my

00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:52.080
 thoughts plus and I don't know there's I've got a calendar issue that we can

00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:55.080
 talk about probably either the next agenda either we can even address it

00:28:55.080 --> 00:29:02.640
 here but I'll just do it so I don't care it's just I hate for to sit through a

00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.960
 same presentation I did last month without very many changes it just doesn't

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:12.420
 seem very efficient sure and so if somehow if there's major changes and I

00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:16.520
 know he doesn't mind coming but if you guys can make them or if they're in the

00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:23.080
 Friday status report it's just because these are these are only two agenda

00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:28.240
 items one agenda item other than the minutes and the the staff memorandum on

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:40.720
 the different projects so those are my thoughts thank you with my thoughts I

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:49.280
 appreciate him coming every month because me personally I enjoy but we

00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:53.160
 also have to be reminded that we're not just speaking just to us there's other

00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:59.240
 people that are interested in this they may not actually be able to get to it or

00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.400
 find it on their own they may appreciate hearing it as well

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.520
 are you talking about from the standpoint of the recording from the

00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:12.120
 standpoint of the recording there are some people that are on next door that

00:30:12.120 --> 00:30:17.560
 are interested in what's happening with those roads out there like that so we

00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:23.320
 remind them that it's online there's recordings online and they can go back

00:30:23.320 --> 00:30:29.480
 and see what's going on but I think that we need to have him every month if he

00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.680
 doesn't have a problem coming every month there's little things that may

00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:39.160
 come up in this presentation and allow somebody to have a question and then I

00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:45.280
 can pass the question on so with that being said that's my position on it I

00:30:45.280 --> 00:30:49.720
 would much rather have him here so we can have a live then if he's gonna be

00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:56.040
 here I just I mean this was a good succinct presentation yeah I don't know

00:30:56.040 --> 00:31:00.880
 how many people are watching this yeah I mean I'd like to know that answer I mean

00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.600
 if we got a hundred people looking at her if we got two people looking at it

00:31:03.600 --> 00:31:08.480
 sure but I mean this is if we're just going over the same old information yeah

00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.760
 and does this come out in our status report does this report come out in our

00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:16.480
 Friday status report yes sir on the week of the mobility committee meeting it

00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:20.920
 also is put in your Friday report the report that he's actually presenting yes

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:26.040
 sir it's in your backup it's okay in the back and that's and that's public that's

00:31:26.040 --> 00:31:32.160
 public information as well okay yeah so I mean that's fine I'm not gonna that's

00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:38.120
 not a hill to worry about but I just remember the last time it just seemed

00:31:38.120 --> 00:31:43.840
 like it was about an hour long and if there's change is fine so we'll keep it

00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:50.360
 the way and if it changes sure no problem and I think I can also talk with

00:31:50.360 --> 00:31:54.160
 him and ask him to really work it well work on focusing on hitting the

00:31:54.160 --> 00:32:04.680
 highlights and just making sure you know what's changed no problem okay well then

00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:12.160
 that is that agenda item I mean I don't think that we need any kind of action do

00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:19.160
 we need a vote for them to keep it on the agenda it's already present okay I

00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.320
 just wanted to make sure that was my understanding but I don't want to do

00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:35.000
 something incorrect okay all right thank you I will move on to DMC 2 3 - 0 0 8

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:42.040
 staff memorandum for Bonnie Bray road update Hickory Creek road phase 3 update

00:32:42.040 --> 00:32:47.520
 resident construction updates future items for mobility committee meeting for

00:32:47.520 --> 00:32:52.680
 2023 good morning Trevor crane director of capital projects so I'll be going

00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.240
 through the updates here make it big enough for everybody to see so starting

00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.560
 with Bonnie Bray so we talked about this a little last time the contractor has

00:33:03.560 --> 00:33:07.760
 fixed those leaks that were a part of the north-south water main phase 3 they're

00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:10.040
 currently out there they were out there yesterday I don't know if they're out

00:33:10.040 --> 00:33:13.320
 there today with the rain but they were out there yesterday I'm working on

00:33:13.320 --> 00:33:18.640
 repairing that back repairing that the street and the asphalt depending on the

00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.640
 weather it seems like every time they get started it starts raining again but

00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.720
 we're hoping to get that done in the next two to three weeks and have that

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:30.440
 wrapped up moving on to Bonnie Bray phase 3 so we talked about this one as

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.760
 well last time we had rejected those original bids and we're working on

00:33:34.760 --> 00:33:39.840
 repackaging those so I actually just got done messaging our project manager

00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:43.640
 they're meeting this week with the engineer to work through the final stages

00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:48.360
 of making sure that design meets all those amendments that we had repackaging

00:33:48.360 --> 00:33:51.360
 it and putting together the bid documents so we're planning on having

00:33:51.360 --> 00:33:56.440
 that bid are out to bid in the next two to three weeks and then we'll see what

00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:02.760
 we get back yeah and then Bonnie Bray phase 6 this project is actually ready

00:34:02.760 --> 00:34:07.520
 to go out the door we're waiting on one final parcel we met last week with the

00:34:07.520 --> 00:34:11.960
 owner of that parcel and our legal team so we feel like we're really close on

00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.800
 achieving that we actually have a path forward to go ahead and start that work

00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.480
 but we want to try to wrap all this up now instead of kind of kicking that can

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.040
 down the road so I feel like we're really close on getting that and then

00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:27.120
 we'll be able to put that Bonnie Bray phase 6 project out the bid as well so I

00:34:27.120 --> 00:34:34.940
 believe we'll have three and six out on the street before the end of March I can

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:39.120
 pause right there if anybody's got any questions yeah there's a notation there

00:34:39.120 --> 00:34:45.840
 that this could be a two-year construction two years for Bonnie Bray

00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.320
 phase 6 yeah because sometimes you know people think that it should wrap up much

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:56.040
 quicker than right yeah two years I mean that's it's a very large project but

00:34:56.040 --> 00:34:59.480
 that two years is really from the beginning all the way through punchless

00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:03.720
 items and sidewalk and those types of things so normally you know it's always

00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:07.000
 depending whether but you know we hope to have that you know up and people

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.240
 driving on it well before that well before but before that two-year and just

00:35:10.240 --> 00:35:13.560
 you know be doing punchless items and those types of things but it could take

00:35:13.560 --> 00:35:17.720
 up to and maybe even more depending on weather and delays and those types of

00:35:17.720 --> 00:35:22.240
 things so I know that that was one of the you know the big contentions about

00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:27.640
 that Bonnie Bray that just wrapped up over scripture you know between scripture

00:35:27.640 --> 00:35:33.000
 and 35 and it just seemed like it was forever you know for the people I think

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.960
 that was a three-year project yeah what I mean I will kind of speak to that a

00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.680
 little bit one of the things that we're finding is with our new CSP and our CMR

00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:44.120
 processes that we're doing we're getting a better contractor that's coming in and

00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:47.120
 doing those that are a lot better with their scheduling and keeping things on

00:35:47.120 --> 00:35:50.640
 track ordering materials ahead of time especially with the escalations that

00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:54.720
 we've seen so we have put some things in place to try to limit those delays and

00:35:54.720 --> 00:36:12.880
 you know keep those projects on on schedule see your tragedy Becky you're

00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:19.240
 loud enough you just talk oh here we go so the only thing I was going to mention

00:36:19.240 --> 00:36:23.240
 is I know you were talking about the portion of scripture to 35 on Bonnie

00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:30.040
 Bray keep in mind the situation on that was a large water main transmission main

00:36:30.040 --> 00:36:33.720
 construction and that is the project of which the contractor defaulted on and we

00:36:33.720 --> 00:36:37.240
 had to go through an entire process to get a new contractor so that's not a

00:36:37.240 --> 00:36:42.520
 typical situation so I just want to caveat that that project had some

00:36:42.520 --> 00:36:46.080
 interesting things that a lot of us were going through for the first time in our

00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:50.000
 careers that we had not been through so although it did feel like eternity for

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:55.120
 all of us it's something that you know wasn't was not a positive thing that

00:36:55.120 --> 00:37:00.400
 happened but unfortunately there are times that those types of things happen

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.200
 from a contracting perspective I've only seen that happen twice in my whole yes

00:37:04.200 --> 00:37:08.320
 construction career and it's been 15 years so it's interesting when it does

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:14.240
 happen yes yes and the people feel it yeah all right moving on to Hickory

00:37:14.240 --> 00:37:19.080
 Creek Road phase three so not really much to update their projects going going

00:37:19.080 --> 00:37:23.760
 good contractors out there now and starting construction so we're on on

00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:31.080
 schedule moving forward still estimated completion in quarter 4 of 2024 and then

00:37:31.080 --> 00:37:35.040
 I could pause there if anybody has any questions on Hickory Creek 3 okay

00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:41.680
 perfect so the next one we had a new item on construction updates so we've

00:37:41.680 --> 00:37:46.480
 made a real concerted effort to you know make sure that the residents are you

00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.560
 know informed we find that you know really your complaints and your issues

00:37:50.560 --> 00:37:53.840
 come up when people just don't really know what know what's going on you know

00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.800
 if you can get out in front of things you know give them information let them

00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.280
 know where to go to find information then that really takes care of a lot of

00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.760
 those problems or at least they know who to go to if there is something so we've

00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.320
 kind of outlined here you know what we do during construction I'll say during a

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:13.240
 design process we're even you know bringing residents in we have a a

00:38:13.240 --> 00:38:17.720
 construction meeting either online or in person right at the beginning of a

00:38:17.720 --> 00:38:23.080
 project so at 30% we have our project managers doing videos and posting those

00:38:23.080 --> 00:38:27.880
 on to discuss Denton at regular intervals during design 60 90% and then

00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:33.360
 once we actually award the contract to a contractor we schedule a community

00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:37.960
 meeting depending on you know where which area it is we'll do it online or

00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.720
 in person we'll have our project manager there our program manager there most of

00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:46.580
 the time I'm there as well our contractors there and then our design

00:38:46.580 --> 00:38:49.080
 firm is there as well so that the residents can know what's going to

00:38:49.080 --> 00:38:52.520
 happen they can ask questions about you know specific to you know their houses

00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:58.200
 or really anything like that so that happens then a letter sent out so a

00:38:58.200 --> 00:39:01.020
 letter sent out the property owners within a certain radius so they know

00:39:01.020 --> 00:39:07.000
 about that meeting like I said we do hold some of those virtually and some of

00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:12.000
 those are we hold those in person the video after we do that the video is

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.900
 posted on to our just project discuss Denton page every project that we have

00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:21.960
 has it has its own discuss Denton page on that discuss Denton page you can go

00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.040
 on there get updates on the project you can find out who the project manager is

00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:29.760
 with all their contact information that way you can get directly in touch with

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.880
 our project managers you don't have to go through the engaged Denton process

00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.440
 where it gets kind of bounced around a little bit before it gets to us so we

00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.880
 want to try to make sure that everyone has that direct line to us so where we

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.440
 can fix any issues or give any information you know as quickly as

00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:49.800
 possible updates on the project or posted monthly on the projects discuss

00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.960
 Denton page so we do have my project managers are updating that discuss

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.540
 Denton page on a monthly basis with anything that's coming up or any issues

00:39:56.540 --> 00:40:02.120
 that we're having so so that's staying up to date those updates are sent to the

00:40:02.120 --> 00:40:07.120
 users email as the project manager makes updates and then the staff also posts

00:40:07.120 --> 00:40:13.920
 updates on projects on the city of Denton's Facebook Twitter pages major

00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.320
 updates such as lane changes and road closures for the project are posted on

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.160
 the city of Denton's Facebook as well as the projects discussed in the page so

00:40:21.160 --> 00:40:25.440
 again we try to we're trying to get everybody to start going to those

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.120
 discussed in pages for those specific projects so it's not so they're getting

00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:33.600
 specific information on those projects and know exactly who to contact with any

00:40:33.600 --> 00:40:38.720
 issues and then we also have our CIP map so that's a interactive map I'm sure

00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:43.000
 you've heard us talk about a lot we're proud of it Becky talks about a lot but

00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:48.000
 that map you can go on there get project scope schedule budgets you can get the

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.600
 project manager you can know what departments delivering it and so that's

00:40:52.600 --> 00:40:57.600
 that actually feeds out of our project management software Procore and that

00:40:57.600 --> 00:41:02.440
 will show any project that is scheduled to initiate within the next 365 days is

00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.920
 currently under construction or if it's been completed in the last 60 days and

00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.920
 then we have finally we have our street closure report which is published in the

00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.360
 Friday report each week and that pride that report contains all the street

00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:18.480
 closures for all of our city projects

00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:29.760
 questions comments I'm just thinking that as you're talking I'm thinking that I

00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:37.440
 will be more mindful as a city council member to remind my constituents that

00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:46.800
 there is a discussed Denton page and they will probably get their question

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:53.000
 answered quicker absolutely then coming through me and then me doing what I do

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.680
 to get back to them right and we're happy answers we're happy to answer

00:41:57.680 --> 00:42:02.240
 questions from council members or CMO if it comes to them but in our point of

00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:05.960
 view it's it's just much easier if they come straight to us we can get it you

00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.280
 know most of the time within an hour or two or you know that day instead of it

00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.560
 you know you're having to get it then you're trying to get it to Sarah or

00:42:13.560 --> 00:42:16.680
 trying to figure out who it needs to go to what department and then you lose a

00:42:16.680 --> 00:42:20.600
 week you know doing that so you know we want to we want to get those comments

00:42:20.600 --> 00:42:24.480
 and those you know issues to us as soon as possible so we can fix them and then

00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.540
 the other part of that is you know I stress to my project managers work if

00:42:27.540 --> 00:42:30.400
 we're going to direct everybody to our discussed in pages and those types of

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.520
 things then we need to make sure that information is correct and the CIP map

00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:37.760
 is correct so you know we're constantly updating that and making sure that that's

00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:45.880
 the most recent information that we have and whenever I receive a complaint I'm

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.920
 just thinking about one in particular someone asked me what's you wanting me

00:42:52.920 --> 00:43:00.520
 to help them get leaves out of a area that is obviously gathered up leaves at

00:43:00.520 --> 00:43:05.760
 the end of a street and so I took all the information and I just turned around

00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:11.640
 and put it on engaged in and you know all the information came back to me and

00:43:11.640 --> 00:43:16.640
 then I had to go back to them you know let them know what was going on in that

00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:21.320
 area and I eventually you know received oh thank you so much for helping me with

00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:26.000
 this situation but you know that's a great opportunity to say hey you could

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.200
 have done this and even if we get you know a lot of times we'll get comments

00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:33.120
 to our project managers aren't necessarily a part of the project but we

00:43:33.120 --> 00:43:36.280
 can work with our other stakeholders with Danny and the streets department

00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.640
 their team or BME or whoever to find out who needs to who needs to take care of

00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:44.720
 that you know we take ownership of everything until we find out whose it is

00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:47.540
 so we're gonna we're not gonna drop those things we want to make sure they

00:43:47.540 --> 00:43:54.960
 get they get taken care of that's excellent thank you so much where is

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.520
 that so on the city of Denton's Facebook slash Twitter page I'm sure there's

00:43:58.520 --> 00:44:07.080
 probably a link to discuss dinner what other places is that link available to

00:44:07.080 --> 00:44:11.760
 you know is it just on our website on the Facebook or is it yeah it's on the

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.960
 website it's on Facebook I mean we can get your list of everywhere it's posted

00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.920
 but you know we put it in our pretty much everywhere we can yeah it's readily

00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:26.400
 available readily available and if you go onto the city's home page and scroll

00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:31.320
 down it's actually one of the big big I mean oh yeah big tabs yeah okay yeah

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:37.920
 wonderful good all right perfect well I'll turn it back over to Becky for

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:43.760
 future agenda thank you thanks Trevor so I guess the last thing we have to do

00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:50.240
 today is go through exhibit 2 so monthly we're bringing you the updates on Bonnie

00:44:50.240 --> 00:44:55.480
 Bray and Hickory Creek Road phase 3 so those are gonna continue to be our

00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.080
 monthly updates Trevor did a great job with that I know Ryan Road everyone

00:45:00.080 --> 00:45:04.520
 understands that's on hold until we get to a certain point that Hickory Creek is

00:45:04.520 --> 00:45:09.960
 closer to being completed because since those are both the east-west corridors

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.280
 in that vicinity we don't want both of them under construction at the same time

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:19.960
 so that'll be ongoing as far as the TxDOT response on the citywide speed

00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:26.680
 study Brett and myself Brett Bourgeois our deputy city engineer and had

00:45:26.680 --> 00:45:31.160
 conversations with TxDOT about that last week and he's been in constant

00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:35.080
 conversation they're requesting a little additional information and so he's

00:45:35.080 --> 00:45:40.360
 working through that to map some of the specific locations it'll probably be a

00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.480
 couple of weeks before we get that information back to them and then

00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.440
 they're working it through their process so you know until we have that

00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.720
 opportunity to bring back to you TxDOT's results we'll leave it on here as kind

00:45:53.720 --> 00:46:00.760
 of an ongoing topic and then we did bring to you today the ITS presentation

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:03.680
 schedule we're gonna go ahead and keep that on there and then the resident

00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:08.400
 construction updates we provided you with that information I think in the

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.680
 next staff report we could give you information to show you where the

00:46:12.680 --> 00:46:18.840
 discussed it and pages are located if necessary but we're basically just saying

00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:21.880
 on those last two items we feel like we've fulfilled those obligations if you

00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.080
 want us to provide something that shows all the areas of discussed it and we

00:46:25.080 --> 00:46:29.440
 sure can but if not we're asking to remove five and six and then see if you

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.720
 have anything additional that you'd like to talk about I know you've brought one

00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:38.400
 to my attention as far as schedule so yeah well also and Madam City Attorney if

00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:43.680
 you feel if I'm off posting just let me know because when you talked about the

00:46:43.680 --> 00:46:50.680
 speed study I mean I've gotten several comments and questions about speed on

00:46:50.680 --> 00:46:55.240
 certain streets that seem to be according to those individuals a little

00:46:55.240 --> 00:47:00.440
 out of whack so I don't know if that's where we discuss it in here or if we

00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.840
 just take it straight to the council meeting and you know how that comes

00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:09.880
 about like oh that's average so I'm just not sure where to address that as far as

00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:17.400
 if people have real concerns how do people go about relooking at that so I'll

00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.080
 just leave that out there sure however that needs to fit somewhere sure I'll be

00:47:22.080 --> 00:47:27.120
 very generic with my answer we've received multiple concerns about one

00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:33.900
 particular area Brett has probably spoken to maybe 15 to 20 residents on a

00:47:33.900 --> 00:47:38.800
 Friday who all called simultaneously back-to-back about one particular roadway

00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.560
 of concern and so we will provide that information in a Friday report but the

00:47:43.560 --> 00:47:47.760
 typical process that we would request is if someone has a concern they submit

00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.480
 that through the engaged in process and we'll work to address those those aren't

00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:58.240
 things that at this point unless we get a ton of concerns in an area that we

00:47:58.240 --> 00:48:01.560
 feel like there's an engineering situation that should be reevaluated that

00:48:01.560 --> 00:48:05.440
 we would bring to mobility committee to discuss great yep all right good

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:13.600
 information and then do you want to yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah basically prior to

00:48:13.600 --> 00:48:17.440
 council getting on council I've had meetings that have been scheduled for off

00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.320
 Wednesdays every other Wednesday and unfortunately those meetings fall on a

00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:26.200
 cycle for the mobility committee so I've got to either miss one I got to miss one

00:48:26.200 --> 00:48:30.920
 or the other and because I made a commitment prior to council I'm asking

00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.960
 for at least some accommodation either a slight time change to 11 on these

00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.320
 Wednesdays or to move it just one Wednesday off cycle because that's what

00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.480
 happens is there's only one mobility meeting a month but if it's on a two

00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:48.320
 Wednesday cycle for me then that means I've got a conflict so which one would

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:55.960
 you prefer well I mean I'd probably just prefer just maybe making an 11 o'clock

00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.200
 just because that way we don't have to deal with all the changes of timing and

00:49:00.200 --> 00:49:05.400
 all that as far as moving days but but that means you know it doesn't matter to

00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:10.680
 me it's whatever's most convenient to everybody here I mean to change the

00:49:10.680 --> 00:49:17.320
 cycle would it might be more because the meetings typical are out around 1045 11

00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:25.000
 o'clock sure so what we will do is evaluate that and bring that back to you

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.120
 to see if there's anything that it conflicts with there's a couple of

00:49:29.120 --> 00:49:32.680
 things we'll have to check obviously is mr. Poulter schedule and then of course

00:49:32.680 --> 00:49:38.880
 the DTV timing of when they're available but as far as moving from 9 to 11 o'clock

00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:47.880
 it's not a huge concern to me 10 to 11 I mean I'm sorry yeah I thought man I've

00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:53.120
 been late every time I'm sorry that was my fault it used to be at 9 o'clock on

00:49:53.120 --> 00:50:02.760
 Mondays so I was going way back machine so yes to go from 10 to 11 o'clock so we

00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.880
 can definitely work through that and see if that's something that we can and I

00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.280
 would have brought that up sooner but then I realized in fact I actually was

00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:16.560
 drafting you a text and then I realized oh wait a minute we've got a you know be

00:50:16.560 --> 00:50:22.800
 a quorum and so we have to do this in public so yeah it was so yeah any any

00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.400
 combination be fine I apologize for that it's just I was trying to work it out

00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:34.560
 and I found that I was not doing service to either commitment and I'd really like

00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:51.000
 to be able to do that so it sounds like DTV was actually messaging me Billy's

00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.800
 messaging me while we're in here saying he doesn't have a concern with 11 so I'll

00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.560
 check with mr. pollster and then we'll work through that process to make sure

00:50:58.560 --> 00:51:02.520
 that we can update the schedule and this really isn't an end around to try to get

00:51:02.520 --> 00:51:20.520
 mr. pollster not to come keep in mind the March meeting we did move out to the

00:51:20.520 --> 00:51:26.560
 fourth Wednesday because the third Wednesday y'all are going to be down at

00:51:26.560 --> 00:51:33.240
 didn't City County days in Boston so what I would propose is bring back the

00:51:33.240 --> 00:51:38.280
 updated schedule for April and they're out because it sounds like it won't be a

00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.400
 conflict for you in the much of month of March that way we can go through the

00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:46.560
 regular process and have that as a part of the voting procedure yeah if that

00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:51.840
 would be fine with you all good okay that's all I have thank you thank you

00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:56.400
 madam chair anything for you Councilmember bird that you'd like to add for a future

00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:09.480
 agenda items oh no okay fantastic thank you are there any concluding items if

00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:18.400
 there are no concluding items we'll declare this meeting over at 1052 a.m.

00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:19.240
 - Thank you.

00:52:19.240 --> 00:52:20.080
 - Thank you.

00:52:20.080 --> 00:52:20.900
 - Wonderful. - Thank you.

