1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,320 Welcome to the City of Denton's Mobility Committee, Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 10 a.m. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,900 Council Work Session Room. Quorum is present and we're convening this 3 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:26,700 regular meeting. We have a section here for citizens comment on the agenda items. 4 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:33,600 Do we have any kind of citizens comments that you all know of? No? Okay. We'll move on to our 5 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:43,520 items for individual consideration. A, MC 23-006, consider approval of the minutes 6 00:00:43,520 --> 00:01:00,720 of January 25th, 2023. B, MC 23-007, receive a report and hold a 7 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,600 discussion regarding the City of Denton's Transportation Mobility Project status 8 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:27,480 report. Oh, you've already got it set. Show me where. Up top. That way. Got it, got it. 9 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:41,600 This it? No. All right. We're using this or those? Got it. John Polster, Innovative 10 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,180 Transportation Solutions, here to give a report on the City of Denton 11 00:01:47,180 --> 00:01:51,280 Transportation Mobility Projects, on system projects within the city and 12 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:58,360 impacting the city. First of all, we do a summary on the dollar amounts. We are 13 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,920 essentially working on about four billion dollars worth of improvements 14 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:09,600 around the area. 2181, we are looking at having this project closed out. I'll go 15 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,760 to the report from TechStut. We're looking at probably March of next year, 16 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:23,520 of this year, to be completed. Primarily, it is cleanup on the the sidewalks, 17 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:31,960 striping, and then from a contractual standpoint, it's a close out on working 18 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:38,000 with the city and TechStut on the contractor and the damage with DME stuff. 19 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,720 And so that's part of what the close out does, is close out all of the claims. And 20 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,400 you know, Becky and staff have been on top of that from the moment it happened, 21 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:56,040 I think probably a year ago. So we'll get that resolved. 35E Mayhill, right now 22 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,320 we're doing utilities. You see this is a look, see if I can get all of them on here. 23 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:06,040 There's a lot of utilities that we're we're moving and it impacts the project 24 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,000 as in the ready to let, and we are anticipating being ready to let at the 25 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:18,640 end of this year. This project has about 95 million. This project, when we first 26 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,960 started doing it, it was about 38. And then we realized that we needed to extend 27 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,680 the northbound frontage road because we built the southbound frontage road when 28 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,280 we did the brinker. So we added the northbound frontage road and then we 29 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,760 realized that nobody wants to stop at brinker when they go through the light 30 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,920 between Mayhill and 288. So we added the braid ramp there and so then that plus 31 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,320 inflation we're at about a hundred and three million and by the time we get to 32 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,200 23 for ready to let, we'll have those funds available. And the let date 33 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,080 currently says June of 2025 because that's what shows up in the unified 34 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,280 transportation plan. But if we get it ready to let in December, they'll move 35 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:14,920 the let date up to the probably with January or February 2024. And then you 36 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:21,840 merge your big project between the 235s all the way up to 77. Again this project 37 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:30,080 is in a it's in November 2023 let and that is the actual month of let. And the 38 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:37,400 good news is for this project is we're we're a little under on the project but 39 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,680 the very next project I'm going to show you is over by is underestimate by 40 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,400 exactly the same amount so they're simply going to roll the numbers from 41 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:53,000 the larger project up onto this job so we won't be impacted by the 150 42 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,340 something million dollars we're over. And again it's utilities that are the 43 00:04:57,340 --> 00:05:00,440 critical path item everything else is ready to go. We're just moving through 44 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:06,800 utilities and right now we're on track for a for that let date in November of 45 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:15,280 23. So by the end of this year that this whole chunk of 35 from the merged north 46 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:24,200 will go under the knife and then about nine months later Mayhill it'll be 47 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:32,800 horrible but necessary. So here you'll see that we're at 792 we have 661 so 48 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,960 we're flipping the cost so we can cover the Delta on the merge which is our 49 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,760 priority project and this project will be ready to let based on the utilities 50 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,860 in December of this year and then they are scheduled for the funding years for 51 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:55,040 each of those segments and consecutive years so once the merge goes under 52 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,760 construction a year later the southern part of the northern section goes under 53 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,880 construction and then a year later the northern part of the northern section 54 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:11,600 goes under construction. And that's just saying we're working on utilities. You're 55 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,640 at 35 W frontage roads so two things to report let me make sure yeah two things 56 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:22,520 report here is we got the money to do what we thought was going to the cost of 57 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,880 the frontage roads from 20 from basically the loop south to 407 and then 58 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:35,680 the price went up significantly so we're working on figuring out how to cover 59 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,160 that and the second one is textile and the council of governments not that y'all 60 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:47,200 care per se but the remaining segment from 407 south to Texas Motor Speedway 61 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,840 they've got WSP which is doing this section in the north on contract to 62 00:06:52,840 --> 00:07:01,240 begin the design on that segment so all of 35 W will be being designed for 63 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 construction. 64 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Frontage roads north to the split. Is that anywhere on the horizon? So there's a gap between the 65 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,320 merge and this one where essentially right around the railroad track the 66 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,400 merge goes just to the north of the railroad track and this project stops at 67 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:43,040 2449 because basically all that is is floodplain yeah and it's very expensive 68 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,880 and so we're waiting for the main lane project to pick up that portion of the 69 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:59,160 frontage road. I also have a question. Is there any clue any kind of toll coming up 70 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:07,360 through there? So this is frontage roads so no no toll on the frontage. But so the 71 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,560 the long answer is we're building it as a rural highway which is the same 72 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,960 footprint as a toll manage lane so what you see coming out of the south through 73 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Fort Worth up to 170 is three general purpose lanes in two toll lanes in each 74 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,880 direction they call it a 3223. The intent has always been to carry that cross 75 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,120 section all the way to the merge because the merge when you get to the merge in 76 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:42,680 the 35 project up to 77 that's already been cleared as a toll manage lane so in 77 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:47,680 the future when we do 35e through Denton in its permanent location you'll have 78 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:53,320 toll manage lanes just like you do south of the lake all the way to 380 and then 79 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,320 what we're doing is we're clearing a footprint for a rural highway which is 80 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,080 the same footprint for the urban 3223 frontage roads are in the same location 81 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,160 regardless build the frontage roads wait till the paradigm shift changes and then 82 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:18,240 come back and re clear it and redesign it as a toll manage lane. I should probably put 83 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,720 that note in there but I don't want to tip Boston off on what we're doing. All 84 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:32,160 right your 380 project out to 377 it's under construction and where we meet 85 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:38,280 fairly regularly on that to make sure that everything's going according to the 86 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,480 plan and right now when you look at the outstanding items we're a little bit 87 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:52,760 behind our schedule but we're working on catching that up towards the end of the 88 00:09:52,760 --> 00:10:02,040 second phase all right loop 288 West frontage roads and it's actually when I 89 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:07,080 say frontage roads we're we're designing the frontage roads and the grade 90 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,000 separations but in order to do that we have to lay out a lot of the main lanes 91 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,920 so this is actually a freeway section but we're we're going after the frontage 92 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,760 roads and right now the hundred and ninety million represents a frontage 93 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:29,360 road in both directions both northbound and southbound but you know probably go 94 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:36,680 up and then come back down by the time we're out in 26 ready to actually go to 95 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:45,520 construction with it. The 280 East US 380 project this is essentially to take 380 96 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,320 because we're ultimately three it'll be a freeway and they'll tie into the loop 97 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:57,520 as we want to convert it to a freeway by adding frontage roads and then again the 98 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,200 project we just showed you takes it on around to 35 W so we're doing the 99 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,080 frontage roads on the existing part of the loop and you'll see this area right 100 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:16,080 here we're looking for a more direct connection between 380 and 288 because 101 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,680 of the speed of movement of the traffic if it's a freeway we meet every two 102 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:26,400 weeks I think with the city staff Becky and her group to make sure because 103 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,720 there's a lot of development going on this corridor and we have to make sure 104 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:39,960 that we know the very latest information as we go through this process. I'm 105 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,360 hearing the term freeway huh what's the definition of a freeway and also what is 106 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:52,860 380 considered now okay 380 is an arterial because it's all your crossings 107 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:57,960 are at grade and signalized a freeway is when you have great separated movements 108 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:04,400 and so like on 35 you when you want to go from Denton to Dallas you don't have 109 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,760 any cross streets that you have to stop at it's just a free movement so 288 has 110 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,240 main lanes out there now and we're the city and the county and textile are 111 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:22,080 controlling access to those main lanes by permit but by ordinance because we 112 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,240 don't want to have anybody coming onto a road that's traveling at 60 70 miles an 113 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,440 hour so in order for development to occur along that section of the loop 114 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,360 which there's a lot of open space up there that wants to develop we have to 115 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,640 come back in and build in frontage roads and grade separations and you can kind 116 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,520 of see the major areas the three major areas we know of that will be grade 117 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:52,160 separated along this section of 288 so it'll be you'll be able to drive 118 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:58,920 basically from 35 all the way east to 380 once we're done with 288 without 119 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:05,680 stopping at any cross street 380 is an arterial like I say now we're going to 120 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:09,720 convert it this project that's under construction right now is converting it 121 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,320 to what's called a super street which means that the major cross streets on 122 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:21,640 380 are great separated 428 720 navel legacy until those are all great 123 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:27,320 separated Mayhill some other third one I can't remember right now those are all 124 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,040 still at grade so you'll you'll be able to move through it faster but you'll 125 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,320 still have places you have to stop 126 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:42,680 thank you yes ma'am and so we pull this out as a separate item so you can see it 127 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:47,440 because you have a Bonnie Bray project that goes all the way from vintage all 128 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,640 the way north or actually further south of vintage all the way through 129 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:57,960 paralleling 35 W and 35 and this is the last segment that ties into the loop but 130 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:05,640 if you look on the loop project this part of the loop 288 project is this part 131 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:14,640 that we're showing you in more detail so Westwood formerly known as PK the 132 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,080 county's paying Westwood to do the the environmental clearance and a schematic 133 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,320 for the freeway on 288 it also includes this portion of Bonnie Bray because we 134 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,600 have to environmentally clear it because tech start and cog are funding this 135 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:36,160 portion and for them to fund it it has to be cleared environmentally so it's 136 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:44,040 just a subset of the previous project FM 1515 continue to move towards a ready 137 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:50,720 to let date of October 2024 our schedule was pushed back a little bit due to a 138 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,120 couple of items that we needed to change Peter bill that asked us to make some 139 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,800 changes that we felt were warranted and we had to make a couple of design 140 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,080 changes along the way on the way operations of it and then we had to make 141 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:14,840 some improvements at the tie-in of the 35 merged project so we're out there 2024 142 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:24,680 as a ready to let project 1173 so this project half is kind of got half moving 143 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:31,840 on this project we are schematically clearing everything but when we get it 144 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,640 environmentally clear we're going to focus primarily on the right of 145 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,080 acquisition on the section to the east on Barthol road because we want to try 146 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,560 to get this portion at least past the railroad track included in the 35 merge 147 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:53,240 project and so that's we're basically working on design oh and for those of 148 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,320 you living crumb we're going to truncate the project just east of the railroad 149 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,680 track from a construction standpoint we will clear it all the way to 156 because 150 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,800 when we come in and do the reconstruction of 1173 and realignment 151 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,400 will resurface and repave that portion of 156 we won't add capacity but we'll 152 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:21,520 put you new put put new asphalt on the ground outer loop the big green fuzzy 153 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:28,000 thing yeah so we're we're having constant meetings on this there's a lot 154 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:36,460 of going on out there we have had a very good meeting with core of engineers it's 155 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:42,800 all running together prior to today and they understand what we're doing and 156 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,860 they are in support and one of the things we needed the core to do for us 157 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:53,520 is we get a lot of people asking us well why do we got to go down 428 why can't 158 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,880 you go across the dam why can't you do this why can't you do that and the 159 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,140 answer we've told them is that the core of engineers told us that the only place 160 00:17:02,140 --> 00:17:10,720 are really going to be a team player on is crossing green belt at 428 because 161 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:16,120 it's already an existing crossing and all we got to do is work to enhance it 162 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:21,000 and it'll be wider but we'll mitigate all that and so what we asked the quarter 163 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:29,600 do is to communicate to us in a clear term right not core talk that they're 164 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:35,400 not going to they're going to make a very difficult for us to go anywhere else 165 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,560 but 428 and we need them to say it in a clear manner so there's alternatives 166 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:45,200 that we're looking at that we have to dismiss for some reason that are the ones 167 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,840 to go across the dam of course the core is never going to let you touch the dam 168 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:54,800 and so we're we need to get them to tell us the only place that's viable for them 169 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,840 is the 428 crossing because that'll eliminate half the alternatives we're 170 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:08,280 looking at and we got to get down to two plus a no build to clear set pretty much 171 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,140 on the eat on the West at Milam based on the city's thoroughfare plan the 172 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:17,440 county's thoroughfare plan and that 35 jobs going to go to construction next 173 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:23,040 year it sets the outer loop at Milam so that's already been environmentally 174 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,960 cleared and then we got to pick it up somewhere in Collin County and if you go 175 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,600 over to Collin County side where we built the northbound frontage road all 176 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,680 the way to Gainesville Gainesville Grayson County you'll see there's a road 177 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,400 that ties into our frontage road that says outer loop because it's one of the 178 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,480 frontage roads for the outer loop that Collin County is already building so 179 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,720 our our eastern point is roughly set our middle point is roughly set in our 180 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,600 western point is roughly set and we're wiggling in between those three you know 181 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:02,040 set points so it looks like it's going to be closer to Aubrey than it is to 182 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,280 yes so if it goes along the thoroughfare plan it'll come up and over Aubrey hit 183 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:15,080 428 and then come down to Milam Road and Milam is right here and 428 is right 184 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,000 here so how you get from here to here there are various alternatives and then 185 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,760 how you get from here around Aubrey back to here there's various alternatives 186 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,200 but there are also which we have currently people asking us to not start 187 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,420 at the outer loop start up here go across the top of the dam and come you 188 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:42,880 know south of Sanger so you know we get comments we had to address them and the 189 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Corps can solve a lot of that they just get us that statement that they said 190 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:54,480 they would all right Elman Locust so we I think we have a game plan on that the 191 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,640 county is participating with the city on this in the bomb program that was one of 192 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:04,720 the things that Becky had really pushed right at the end on the bomb program and 193 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:11,480 so the county is looking at I'm meeting with the court members I think March 194 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:21,800 8th yeah that's what I told you okay that's right I'm like a horrible liar 195 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:31,400 March 8th to try to nail down everything and your staff has communicated to the 196 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,700 county pretty clearly early on what their priorities are this is one of the 197 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:43,600 priorities and so you should see a very more clear plan on this starting 198 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,280 probably in April time frame and I will since I'm talking about Becky's job I'll 199 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:56,720 ask her if she wants to add to it I think the only thing I would add is 200 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,200 what's highlighted in yellow at the bottom is John specifically talking 201 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,520 about everything really kind of north of the courthouse when we're having those 202 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,840 constant conversations it's tied into the portion south of the courthouse but 203 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,560 I know I mentioned this before but we have submitted and reviewed all of the 204 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,560 overall roadway design for the southern portion everyone's in agreement and 205 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,480 Texan is working on the memo that has to go to the Commission which is in Austin 206 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,240 for their review so then as we've mentioned you will receive we will see 207 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,480 an agreement come back in some form it's just taking those next steps to take 208 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,200 that roadway off system through that process so that that is a process we're 209 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,600 working through but we're moving we're moving in the positive manner and we're 210 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,760 we're one of the early ones in since they changed the rules on a lot of these 211 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,200 things so we're all being used as guinea pigs on what the right verbiage is to 212 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,440 submit so we submit draft and they comment before we actually submit it 213 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,920 officially and they come back and say change these words add this information 214 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:07,160 stuff like that it's Tom fullery and the only thing different is I offer to give 215 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:13,080 you all the categories so if you see cat 1 cat 2 cat 3 cat 4 on my report as for 216 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:19,120 funding these are the various sundry funding categories primarily the ones 217 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:23,840 that we care about a category 2 which is metro urban which is federal dollars for 218 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:30,600 on system projects category 4 is statewide connectivity so 35 if a road 219 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,560 leaves the region it's eligible for connectivity 635 and 820 would not be 220 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,480 eligible because they're loops they don't leave the region 380 eligible 221 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,400 category 5 is your C Mac air quality so because we're in non-attainment we have 222 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,600 access to those and then category 7 is your it's metropolitan mobility and 223 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:58,760 rehabilitation but the officials name for that category 7 from the federal 224 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,680 standpoint you'll hear me reference it as STBG funds or surface transportation 225 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,720 block grant funds and those are funds that are still federal but that can be 226 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,400 spent on any type of project whether it's on system or off system as long as 227 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,680 it's a collector and above and you environmentally clear it so the outer 228 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,320 loop currently is going to be falling into the category 7 category until 229 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:30,000 textile claims it is an on system project safety of course and then 230 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,560 category 11 is is district discretionary so if the district engineer wants to 231 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,200 prioritize a project she can do that with her money that she gets in 232 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:46,360 category 11 and then category 12 says strategic priority but basically it's 233 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:50,520 Commission discretionary funds and then that dollar amount in category 12 has 234 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,680 been going up steadily since governor Abbott's been governor and chairman 235 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,880 bugs been chair because they're running you I don't know if you've seen but they 236 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:06,680 a lot of the these commissioners for the Transportation Commission don't last 237 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,880 very long because there's a that's being run more like a secretary of 238 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,700 transportation than it is a commission so there's a lot of concerns that we 239 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:23,400 have on the way category 12 was being funded but we don't say anything in 240 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,640 public because we don't get in trouble 241 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:45,800 little joke there that's all I got any other questions thank you so much I was 242 00:24:45,800 --> 00:25:04,000 very informative thank you thank you yes that's what we need honesty okay well 243 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:15,640 we'll move on to see MC 23 - zero zero nine receive a report is this is this the 244 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,360 same did we switch it around or receive a report hold a discussion and give 245 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,520 direction regarding the innovative transportation solutions scheduled to 246 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,440 give the city of transportation mobility project status report so the request 247 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,520 from the last meeting was to talk about whether or not mr. pollster was going to 248 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,440 attend at every single meeting and make a presentation and because the updates 249 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,680 from month to month or not in some folks eyes maybe as great as what you know 250 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,480 might be expected as you can tell on a lot of these projects there's a lot of 251 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,800 things happening but whether or not that's something you want to hear so the 252 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,040 purpose of this item is really to discuss how often you would like to have 253 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,040 mr. pollster come in and make these types of presentations you know staff 254 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,840 goes to a meeting monthly with tech stop where we review the same information 255 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,680 and we also work and provided in the Friday report so it'll be in this week's 256 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,140 Friday report just as a council update so really it was just kind of a 257 00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:24,840 conversation to talk about how often you would like to see he's he's scheduled to 258 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,960 come monthly he's fine with coming monthly and I think there's some 259 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,840 questions about time frame and and calendar specifically so I'll let y'all 260 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,440 kind of talk about that but that's really what the purpose of this action 261 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,680 on us yes sir 262 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:50,880 that goes over pretty much all the information we have here and is he in 263 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 that meeting as well yes sir he leads that meeting myself 264 00:26:53,800 --> 00:27:00,080 Trevor other folks attend this is almost identical the packet and that we go 265 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,560 through the only thing that really changes is if there's any updates that 266 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,640 need to be made before he makes this presentation we received the latest 267 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,280 version at the time of this meeting so there are sometimes changes that are 268 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,840 made so when you say you receive it at this meeting then it in this meeting is 269 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,960 the first time you're hearing the update or you get it ahead of this meeting and 270 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,760 then or there's sometimes he's presenting things that you're not aware 271 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,440 of and because of the change between text I mean you see those no sorry I 272 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,840 wasn't clear on that we sit in the on system meeting it's a meeting between 273 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,560 the county the city and textile and mr. Polster provides the report Travis 274 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Campbell who is the former area engineer who is now one of the assistant district 275 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:49,000 area or district engineers in that textile at Dallas office he actually goes 276 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,800 through the whole report we talk about if there's any questions concerns time 277 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,880 frame funding we give updates we you know sometimes mention things that maybe 278 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,840 have happened such as an accident or a concern so it's really a vetting meeting 279 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,840 for stakeholder and then from that meeting they make any updates that need 280 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840 to happen and then we're sent the final report to include as a part of the 281 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,600 mobility packet but we're present during that and an active role player I mean my 282 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,040 only thought is I mean if there's a if I mean if he comes and presents every 283 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,680 month to from my perspective he doesn't have to go over everything that really 284 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,600 hasn't had much of a change I mean it just out here it is this is the major 285 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,400 change since last month because we're just going over the same stuff but 286 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,240 obviously if there's a change in an update and so forth look you know it's 287 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,280 good to hear that but so I don't know I mean I've only been just a few of these 288 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:48,320 so I don't know if it changes monthly but it's just sure those are just my 289 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,080 thoughts plus and I don't know there's I've got a calendar issue that we can 290 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080 talk about probably either the next agenda either we can even address it 291 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:02,640 here but I'll just do it so I don't care it's just I hate for to sit through a 292 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,960 same presentation I did last month without very many changes it just doesn't 293 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,420 seem very efficient sure and so if somehow if there's major changes and I 294 00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:16,520 know he doesn't mind coming but if you guys can make them or if they're in the 295 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Friday status report it's just because these are these are only two agenda 296 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,240 items one agenda item other than the minutes and the the staff memorandum on 297 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:40,720 the different projects so those are my thoughts thank you with my thoughts I 298 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:49,280 appreciate him coming every month because me personally I enjoy but we 299 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,160 also have to be reminded that we're not just speaking just to us there's other 300 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:59,240 people that are interested in this they may not actually be able to get to it or 301 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,400 find it on their own they may appreciate hearing it as well 302 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,520 are you talking about from the standpoint of the recording from the 303 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:12,120 standpoint of the recording there are some people that are on next door that 304 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,560 are interested in what's happening with those roads out there like that so we 305 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,320 remind them that it's online there's recordings online and they can go back 306 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,480 and see what's going on but I think that we need to have him every month if he 307 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,680 doesn't have a problem coming every month there's little things that may 308 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,160 come up in this presentation and allow somebody to have a question and then I 309 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:45,280 can pass the question on so with that being said that's my position on it I 310 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,720 would much rather have him here so we can have a live then if he's gonna be 311 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:56,040 here I just I mean this was a good succinct presentation yeah I don't know 312 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,880 how many people are watching this yeah I mean I'd like to know that answer I mean 313 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600 if we got a hundred people looking at her if we got two people looking at it 314 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,480 sure but I mean this is if we're just going over the same old information yeah 315 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,760 and does this come out in our status report does this report come out in our 316 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,480 Friday status report yes sir on the week of the mobility committee meeting it 317 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,920 also is put in your Friday report the report that he's actually presenting yes 318 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,040 sir it's in your backup it's okay in the back and that's and that's public that's 319 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,160 public information as well okay yeah so I mean that's fine I'm not gonna that's 320 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:38,120 not a hill to worry about but I just remember the last time it just seemed 321 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,840 like it was about an hour long and if there's change is fine so we'll keep it 322 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:50,360 the way and if it changes sure no problem and I think I can also talk with 323 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,160 him and ask him to really work it well work on focusing on hitting the 324 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:04,680 highlights and just making sure you know what's changed no problem okay well then 325 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:12,160 that is that agenda item I mean I don't think that we need any kind of action do 326 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:19,160 we need a vote for them to keep it on the agenda it's already present okay I 327 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320 just wanted to make sure that was my understanding but I don't want to do 328 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:35,000 something incorrect okay all right thank you I will move on to DMC 2 3 - 0 0 8 329 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:42,040 staff memorandum for Bonnie Bray road update Hickory Creek road phase 3 update 330 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,520 resident construction updates future items for mobility committee meeting for 331 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,680 2023 good morning Trevor crane director of capital projects so I'll be going 332 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:59,240 through the updates here make it big enough for everybody to see so starting 333 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,560 with Bonnie Bray so we talked about this a little last time the contractor has 334 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,760 fixed those leaks that were a part of the north-south water main phase 3 they're 335 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040 currently out there they were out there yesterday I don't know if they're out 336 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,320 there today with the rain but they were out there yesterday I'm working on 337 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,640 repairing that back repairing that the street and the asphalt depending on the 338 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,640 weather it seems like every time they get started it starts raining again but 339 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,720 we're hoping to get that done in the next two to three weeks and have that 340 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,440 wrapped up moving on to Bonnie Bray phase 3 so we talked about this one as 341 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,760 well last time we had rejected those original bids and we're working on 342 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,840 repackaging those so I actually just got done messaging our project manager 343 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,640 they're meeting this week with the engineer to work through the final stages 344 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,360 of making sure that design meets all those amendments that we had repackaging 345 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,360 it and putting together the bid documents so we're planning on having 346 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,440 that bid are out to bid in the next two to three weeks and then we'll see what 347 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:02,760 we get back yeah and then Bonnie Bray phase 6 this project is actually ready 348 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,520 to go out the door we're waiting on one final parcel we met last week with the 349 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,960 owner of that parcel and our legal team so we feel like we're really close on 350 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,800 achieving that we actually have a path forward to go ahead and start that work 351 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,480 but we want to try to wrap all this up now instead of kind of kicking that can 352 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,040 down the road so I feel like we're really close on getting that and then 353 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120 we'll be able to put that Bonnie Bray phase 6 project out the bid as well so I 354 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:34,940 believe we'll have three and six out on the street before the end of March I can 355 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:39,120 pause right there if anybody's got any questions yeah there's a notation there 356 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:45,840 that this could be a two-year construction two years for Bonnie Bray 357 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,320 phase 6 yeah because sometimes you know people think that it should wrap up much 358 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,040 quicker than right yeah two years I mean that's it's a very large project but 359 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,480 that two years is really from the beginning all the way through punchless 360 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,720 items and sidewalk and those types of things so normally you know it's always 361 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,000 depending whether but you know we hope to have that you know up and people 362 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,240 driving on it well before that well before but before that two-year and just 363 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,560 you know be doing punchless items and those types of things but it could take 364 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,720 up to and maybe even more depending on weather and delays and those types of 365 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:22,240 things so I know that that was one of the you know the big contentions about 366 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:27,640 that Bonnie Bray that just wrapped up over scripture you know between scripture 367 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,000 and 35 and it just seemed like it was forever you know for the people I think 368 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,960 that was a three-year project yeah what I mean I will kind of speak to that a 369 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,680 little bit one of the things that we're finding is with our new CSP and our CMR 370 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,120 processes that we're doing we're getting a better contractor that's coming in and 371 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,120 doing those that are a lot better with their scheduling and keeping things on 372 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,640 track ordering materials ahead of time especially with the escalations that 373 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,720 we've seen so we have put some things in place to try to limit those delays and 374 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:12,880 you know keep those projects on on schedule see your tragedy Becky you're 375 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,240 loud enough you just talk oh here we go so the only thing I was going to mention 376 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,240 is I know you were talking about the portion of scripture to 35 on Bonnie 377 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:30,040 Bray keep in mind the situation on that was a large water main transmission main 378 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,720 construction and that is the project of which the contractor defaulted on and we 379 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:37,240 had to go through an entire process to get a new contractor so that's not a 380 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:42,520 typical situation so I just want to caveat that that project had some 381 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,080 interesting things that a lot of us were going through for the first time in our 382 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,000 careers that we had not been through so although it did feel like eternity for 383 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,120 all of us it's something that you know wasn't was not a positive thing that 384 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,400 happened but unfortunately there are times that those types of things happen 385 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,200 from a contracting perspective I've only seen that happen twice in my whole yes 386 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,320 construction career and it's been 15 years so it's interesting when it does 387 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,240 happen yes yes and the people feel it yeah all right moving on to Hickory 388 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:19,080 Creek Road phase three so not really much to update their projects going going 389 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,760 good contractors out there now and starting construction so we're on on 390 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:31,080 schedule moving forward still estimated completion in quarter 4 of 2024 and then 391 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,040 I could pause there if anybody has any questions on Hickory Creek 3 okay 392 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:41,680 perfect so the next one we had a new item on construction updates so we've 393 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,480 made a real concerted effort to you know make sure that the residents are you 394 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,560 know informed we find that you know really your complaints and your issues 395 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,840 come up when people just don't really know what know what's going on you know 396 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,800 if you can get out in front of things you know give them information let them 397 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,280 know where to go to find information then that really takes care of a lot of 398 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,760 those problems or at least they know who to go to if there is something so we've 399 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,320 kind of outlined here you know what we do during construction I'll say during a 400 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,240 design process we're even you know bringing residents in we have a a 401 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:17,720 construction meeting either online or in person right at the beginning of a 402 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:23,080 project so at 30% we have our project managers doing videos and posting those 403 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,880 on to discuss Denton at regular intervals during design 60 90% and then 404 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,360 once we actually award the contract to a contractor we schedule a community 405 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,960 meeting depending on you know where which area it is we'll do it online or 406 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,720 in person we'll have our project manager there our program manager there most of 407 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,580 the time I'm there as well our contractors there and then our design 408 00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:49,080 firm is there as well so that the residents can know what's going to 409 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,520 happen they can ask questions about you know specific to you know their houses 410 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,200 or really anything like that so that happens then a letter sent out so a 411 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,020 letter sent out the property owners within a certain radius so they know 412 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:07,000 about that meeting like I said we do hold some of those virtually and some of 413 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,000 those are we hold those in person the video after we do that the video is 414 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,900 posted on to our just project discuss Denton page every project that we have 415 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:21,960 has it has its own discuss Denton page on that discuss Denton page you can go 416 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,040 on there get updates on the project you can find out who the project manager is 417 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,760 with all their contact information that way you can get directly in touch with 418 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,880 our project managers you don't have to go through the engaged Denton process 419 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440 where it gets kind of bounced around a little bit before it gets to us so we 420 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,880 want to try to make sure that everyone has that direct line to us so where we 421 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440 can fix any issues or give any information you know as quickly as 422 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:49,800 possible updates on the project or posted monthly on the projects discuss 423 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960 Denton page so we do have my project managers are updating that discuss 424 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,540 Denton page on a monthly basis with anything that's coming up or any issues 425 00:39:56,540 --> 00:40:02,120 that we're having so so that's staying up to date those updates are sent to the 426 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,120 users email as the project manager makes updates and then the staff also posts 427 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:13,920 updates on projects on the city of Denton's Facebook Twitter pages major 428 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,320 updates such as lane changes and road closures for the project are posted on 429 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160 the city of Denton's Facebook as well as the projects discussed in the page so 430 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,440 again we try to we're trying to get everybody to start going to those 431 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,120 discussed in pages for those specific projects so it's not so they're getting 432 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,600 specific information on those projects and know exactly who to contact with any 433 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,720 issues and then we also have our CIP map so that's a interactive map I'm sure 434 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:43,000 you've heard us talk about a lot we're proud of it Becky talks about a lot but 435 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000 that map you can go on there get project scope schedule budgets you can get the 436 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,600 project manager you can know what departments delivering it and so that's 437 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,600 that actually feeds out of our project management software Procore and that 438 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,440 will show any project that is scheduled to initiate within the next 365 days is 439 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,920 currently under construction or if it's been completed in the last 60 days and 440 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,920 then we have finally we have our street closure report which is published in the 441 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,360 Friday report each week and that pride that report contains all the street 442 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,480 closures for all of our city projects 443 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:29,760 questions comments I'm just thinking that as you're talking I'm thinking that I 444 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:37,440 will be more mindful as a city council member to remind my constituents that 445 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:46,800 there is a discussed Denton page and they will probably get their question 446 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:53,000 answered quicker absolutely then coming through me and then me doing what I do 447 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,680 to get back to them right and we're happy answers we're happy to answer 448 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,240 questions from council members or CMO if it comes to them but in our point of 449 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,960 view it's it's just much easier if they come straight to us we can get it you 450 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,280 know most of the time within an hour or two or you know that day instead of it 451 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,560 you know you're having to get it then you're trying to get it to Sarah or 452 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680 trying to figure out who it needs to go to what department and then you lose a 453 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,600 week you know doing that so you know we want to we want to get those comments 454 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,480 and those you know issues to us as soon as possible so we can fix them and then 455 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,540 the other part of that is you know I stress to my project managers work if 456 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,400 we're going to direct everybody to our discussed in pages and those types of 457 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,520 things then we need to make sure that information is correct and the CIP map 458 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,760 is correct so you know we're constantly updating that and making sure that that's 459 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:45,880 the most recent information that we have and whenever I receive a complaint I'm 460 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,920 just thinking about one in particular someone asked me what's you wanting me 461 00:42:52,920 --> 00:43:00,520 to help them get leaves out of a area that is obviously gathered up leaves at 462 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,760 the end of a street and so I took all the information and I just turned around 463 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,640 and put it on engaged in and you know all the information came back to me and 464 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,640 then I had to go back to them you know let them know what was going on in that 465 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,320 area and I eventually you know received oh thank you so much for helping me with 466 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,000 this situation but you know that's a great opportunity to say hey you could 467 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,200 have done this and even if we get you know a lot of times we'll get comments 468 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,120 to our project managers aren't necessarily a part of the project but we 469 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,280 can work with our other stakeholders with Danny and the streets department 470 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,640 their team or BME or whoever to find out who needs to who needs to take care of 471 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,720 that you know we take ownership of everything until we find out whose it is 472 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,540 so we're gonna we're not gonna drop those things we want to make sure they 473 00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:54,960 get they get taken care of that's excellent thank you so much where is 474 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,520 that so on the city of Denton's Facebook slash Twitter page I'm sure there's 475 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:07,080 probably a link to discuss dinner what other places is that link available to 476 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,760 you know is it just on our website on the Facebook or is it yeah it's on the 477 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,960 website it's on Facebook I mean we can get your list of everywhere it's posted 478 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,920 but you know we put it in our pretty much everywhere we can yeah it's readily 479 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,400 available readily available and if you go onto the city's home page and scroll 480 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,320 down it's actually one of the big big I mean oh yeah big tabs yeah okay yeah 481 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:37,920 wonderful good all right perfect well I'll turn it back over to Becky for 482 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,760 future agenda thank you thanks Trevor so I guess the last thing we have to do 483 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,240 today is go through exhibit 2 so monthly we're bringing you the updates on Bonnie 484 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:55,480 Bray and Hickory Creek Road phase 3 so those are gonna continue to be our 485 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,080 monthly updates Trevor did a great job with that I know Ryan Road everyone 486 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,520 understands that's on hold until we get to a certain point that Hickory Creek is 487 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,960 closer to being completed because since those are both the east-west corridors 488 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,280 in that vicinity we don't want both of them under construction at the same time 489 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:19,960 so that'll be ongoing as far as the TxDOT response on the citywide speed 490 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:26,680 study Brett and myself Brett Bourgeois our deputy city engineer and had 491 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,160 conversations with TxDOT about that last week and he's been in constant 492 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,080 conversation they're requesting a little additional information and so he's 493 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,360 working through that to map some of the specific locations it'll probably be a 494 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,480 couple of weeks before we get that information back to them and then 495 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,440 they're working it through their process so you know until we have that 496 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,720 opportunity to bring back to you TxDOT's results we'll leave it on here as kind 497 00:45:53,720 --> 00:46:00,760 of an ongoing topic and then we did bring to you today the ITS presentation 498 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,680 schedule we're gonna go ahead and keep that on there and then the resident 499 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,400 construction updates we provided you with that information I think in the 500 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,680 next staff report we could give you information to show you where the 501 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:18,840 discussed it and pages are located if necessary but we're basically just saying 502 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880 on those last two items we feel like we've fulfilled those obligations if you 503 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,080 want us to provide something that shows all the areas of discussed it and we 504 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,440 sure can but if not we're asking to remove five and six and then see if you 505 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,720 have anything additional that you'd like to talk about I know you've brought one 506 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:38,400 to my attention as far as schedule so yeah well also and Madam City Attorney if 507 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,680 you feel if I'm off posting just let me know because when you talked about the 508 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:50,680 speed study I mean I've gotten several comments and questions about speed on 509 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,240 certain streets that seem to be according to those individuals a little 510 00:46:55,240 --> 00:47:00,440 out of whack so I don't know if that's where we discuss it in here or if we 511 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,840 just take it straight to the council meeting and you know how that comes 512 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,880 about like oh that's average so I'm just not sure where to address that as far as 513 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:17,400 if people have real concerns how do people go about relooking at that so I'll 514 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,080 just leave that out there sure however that needs to fit somewhere sure I'll be 515 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,120 very generic with my answer we've received multiple concerns about one 516 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:33,900 particular area Brett has probably spoken to maybe 15 to 20 residents on a 517 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:38,800 Friday who all called simultaneously back-to-back about one particular roadway 518 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,560 of concern and so we will provide that information in a Friday report but the 519 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,760 typical process that we would request is if someone has a concern they submit 520 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,480 that through the engaged in process and we'll work to address those those aren't 521 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:58,240 things that at this point unless we get a ton of concerns in an area that we 522 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,560 feel like there's an engineering situation that should be reevaluated that 523 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,440 we would bring to mobility committee to discuss great yep all right good 524 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,600 information and then do you want to yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah basically prior to 525 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,440 council getting on council I've had meetings that have been scheduled for off 526 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,320 Wednesdays every other Wednesday and unfortunately those meetings fall on a 527 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,200 cycle for the mobility committee so I've got to either miss one I got to miss one 528 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,920 or the other and because I made a commitment prior to council I'm asking 529 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,960 for at least some accommodation either a slight time change to 11 on these 530 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,320 Wednesdays or to move it just one Wednesday off cycle because that's what 531 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,480 happens is there's only one mobility meeting a month but if it's on a two 532 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,320 Wednesday cycle for me then that means I've got a conflict so which one would 533 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:55,960 you prefer well I mean I'd probably just prefer just maybe making an 11 o'clock 534 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,200 just because that way we don't have to deal with all the changes of timing and 535 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,400 all that as far as moving days but but that means you know it doesn't matter to 536 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,680 me it's whatever's most convenient to everybody here I mean to change the 537 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:17,320 cycle would it might be more because the meetings typical are out around 1045 11 538 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:25,000 o'clock sure so what we will do is evaluate that and bring that back to you 539 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,120 to see if there's anything that it conflicts with there's a couple of 540 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,680 things we'll have to check obviously is mr. Poulter schedule and then of course 541 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,880 the DTV timing of when they're available but as far as moving from 9 to 11 o'clock 542 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:47,880 it's not a huge concern to me 10 to 11 I mean I'm sorry yeah I thought man I've 543 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:53,120 been late every time I'm sorry that was my fault it used to be at 9 o'clock on 544 00:49:53,120 --> 00:50:02,760 Mondays so I was going way back machine so yes to go from 10 to 11 o'clock so we 545 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,880 can definitely work through that and see if that's something that we can and I 546 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,280 would have brought that up sooner but then I realized in fact I actually was 547 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,560 drafting you a text and then I realized oh wait a minute we've got a you know be 548 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,800 a quorum and so we have to do this in public so yeah it was so yeah any any 549 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,400 combination be fine I apologize for that it's just I was trying to work it out 550 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:34,560 and I found that I was not doing service to either commitment and I'd really like 551 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:51,000 to be able to do that so it sounds like DTV was actually messaging me Billy's 552 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,800 messaging me while we're in here saying he doesn't have a concern with 11 so I'll 553 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,560 check with mr. pollster and then we'll work through that process to make sure 554 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,520 that we can update the schedule and this really isn't an end around to try to get 555 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:20,520 mr. pollster not to come keep in mind the March meeting we did move out to the 556 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:26,560 fourth Wednesday because the third Wednesday y'all are going to be down at 557 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:33,240 didn't City County days in Boston so what I would propose is bring back the 558 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:38,280 updated schedule for April and they're out because it sounds like it won't be a 559 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,400 conflict for you in the much of month of March that way we can go through the 560 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,560 regular process and have that as a part of the voting procedure yeah if that 561 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,840 would be fine with you all good okay that's all I have thank you thank you 562 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,400 madam chair anything for you Councilmember bird that you'd like to add for a future 563 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:09,480 agenda items oh no okay fantastic thank you are there any concluding items if 564 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:18,400 there are no concluding items we'll declare this meeting over at 1052 a.m. 565 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,240 - Thank you. 566 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,080 - Thank you. 567 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,900 - Wonderful. - Thank you.