1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,520 Okay, good morning and welcome to the Public Utility Board's meeting for the City of Denton 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,120 of Monday, February 13, 2023, hard to believe, isn't it? 3 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:18,960 I'd like to welcome our newest member, Thomas Plock, welcome. 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,520 We try to do things as quick as possible and get everybody out of here as quick as possible, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,080 and that is our goal. 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,000 The first item is presentation from members of the public, are there any? 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,960 You guys look like you work here. 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Okay. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:43,320 We'll move on to the consent agenda, would any members like to pull any items for discussion? 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:53,320 If not, we'll entertain a motion to approve, sorry, so moved, all right, A, B, C, and D, 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,320 way to go Lee. 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,760 I have a second, Thomas, would you like to have your first second? 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,760 I second. 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,720 He seconds it. 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,720 All those in favor, please say aye. 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Aye. 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Any opposed? 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,720 None. 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Now, we will consider approval to January 23, 23 minutes, so moved, kind of motion. 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,720 All those in favor, please say aye. 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Aye. 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Okay. 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Now, I would like to nominate Devin Taylor as the substitute chair for this next item 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,520 because I have to recuse myself. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,480 I move to approve, second. 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,480 All right. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,480 Move. 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Move. 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,480 On the substitute. 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,480 On the substitute. 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,480 No, aye. 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Call the vote. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,480 All those in favor, say aye. 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,480 All those in favor, say aye. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Aye. 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Sorry. 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,480 I'm sorry. 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,480 All those in favor, say aye. 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,480 All those in favor, say aye. 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,480 All those in favor, say aye. 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,480 All those in favor, say aye. 42 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,480 All those in favor, say aye. 43 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,480 All those in favor, say aye. 44 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,480 All those in favor, say aye. 45 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,480 All those in favor, say aye. 46 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,480 All those in favor, say aye. 47 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,480 All those in favor, say aye. 48 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,480 All those in favor, say aye. 49 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,480 All those in favor, say aye. 50 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,480 All those in favor, say aye. 51 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,480 All those in favor, say aye. 52 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,480 All those in favor, say aye. 53 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,480 All those in favor, say aye. 54 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,480 All those in favor, say aye. 55 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,480 All those in favor, say aye. 56 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,480 All those in favor, say aye. 57 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,480 All those in favor, say aye. 58 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,480 All those in favor, say aye. 59 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,480 All those in favor, say aye. 60 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,480 All those in favor, say aye. 61 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,480 All those in favor, say aye. 62 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,480 All those in favor, say aye. 63 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,480 All those in favor, say aye. 64 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,480 All those in favor, say aye. 65 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,480 All those in favor, say aye. 66 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,480 All those in favor, say aye. 67 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,480 All those in favor, say aye. 68 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,480 All those in favor, say aye. 69 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,480 All those in favor, say aye. 70 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,480 All those in favor, say aye. 71 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,480 All those in favor, say aye. 72 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 All those in favor, say aye. 73 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,480 All those in favor, say aye. 74 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,480 All those in favor, say aye. 75 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,480 All those in favor, say aye. 76 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,480 All those in favor, say aye. 77 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,480 All those in favor, say aye. 78 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,480 All those in favor, say aye. 79 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,480 All those in favor, say aye. 80 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,480 All those in favor, say aye. 81 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,480 All those in favor, say aye. 82 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,480 All those in favor, say aye. 83 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,480 All those in favor, say aye. 84 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,480 All those in favor, say aye. 85 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,480 All those in favor, say aye. 86 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,480 All those in favor, say aye. 87 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,480 All those in favor, say aye. 88 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,480 All those in favor, say aye. 89 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,480 All those in favor, say aye. 90 00:02:53,480 --> 00:03:01,440 The scope of the work is full-depth street reconstruction, including curb and gutter. 91 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,880 There's limited sidewalk improvements, and then these are the street segments that you 92 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,920 see before you for the overall project. 93 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,300 We received five proposals. 94 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:15,960 This was advertised as a competitive seal proposal, a CSP. 95 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,040 We had five proposals with Jago Public Company coming up on top with just over a not-to-exceed 96 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,680 amount of $3.7 million. 97 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:31,040 The schedule for this project, it's 100 percent design documents were completed in Q4 of 2022. 98 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Project bidding is Q1, 2023, with construction initiation and we're looking at Q2, 2023, 99 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,920 with a final completion of 270 days. 100 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,360 With this, staff recommends an approval of a contract between the City of Denton and 101 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Jago Public Company and a not-to-exceed amount of just over $3.7 million. 102 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,080 I don't take any questions. 103 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,680 Thank you, Chair. 104 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,680 When you say limited sidewalk construction, you're just talking about repairing what's 105 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 there or are we going to be adding any? 106 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Repairing what's there. 107 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Okay. 108 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Not adding any? 109 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Correct. 110 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Okay. 111 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Great. 112 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Thank you. 113 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Any questions on the evaluation page? 114 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:24,520 I was curious the way the evaluation numbering works out. 115 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,280 Is that something that a committee of persons does or are you responsible for that or how 116 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:29,280 does that work? 117 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:30,280 It's done by committee. 118 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:31,280 Okay. 119 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:32,640 And how many members are on the committee? 120 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Five. 121 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Five. 122 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,160 And they're primarily people from your department or from other city agencies or how does that 123 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,160 work? 124 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,000 I guess so. 125 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,800 All right. 126 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Good morning, board members. 127 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Seth Garcia, program manager with Capital Projects. 128 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Yeah, so typically we have five members. 129 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Normally three of those members are from our department, so either program managers such 130 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,560 as myself or other project managers. 131 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 And then we typically get two of these stakeholders. 132 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,760 So we had a representative from street department as well as a representative from utilities 133 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,840 that sit on the evaluation committee as well. 134 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:09,840 Okay. 135 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:15,120 And so everybody scores per this sheet based on the information that you receive? 136 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,120 That is correct. 137 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,480 And so the only piece that we don't score is the pricing. 138 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,960 That's done by purchasing through an algorithm. 139 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,360 But the rest of the scores are the average of the five committee member scores. 140 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Okay. 141 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Well, I mean, clearly the winning company had the lowest price and in addition had the 142 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,560 highest score. 143 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,960 So that's a pretty easy call. 144 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Correct. 145 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Yeah. 146 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,160 And we had pricing that was 60%. 147 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 By law, we can go down to 40%. 148 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,040 So with the simplicity of this project, we felt pricing should be significantly higher 149 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,800 than normal for the CSPs just because it was a pretty simple straightforward project. 150 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,120 So this was one we really were looking at one of the lower prices. 151 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Okay. 152 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:05,200 The thing that caught my eye was the things like key personnel, quality, ability to compete, 153 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 similar projects, so on and so forth. 154 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,400 And the way the scoring went on that and then the way the pricing went, it was like it was 155 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,720 almost flipped over, if that makes sense. 156 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Right. 157 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,420 So let's see. 158 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:25,320 So key personnel, what we kind of ask for in that specific category is the personnel 159 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 proposed specifically for this project. 160 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,760 So we're looking at superintendents, foremen. 161 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Some of the things that the evaluation members look at is time with the firm, how much time 162 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,840 are they actually allocating to the specific project. 163 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:39,840 Exactly. 164 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:44,440 So it can be a little bit subjective per evaluation member. 165 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,360 So for instance, those are things that I look for is do we have a project manager that's 166 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,320 been with the company for one year or 10 years, and kind of the history with that. 167 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,500 So those are things. 168 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:58,800 So it is a little bit subjective within there, but like I said, it is an average of all five 169 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,920 evaluates. 170 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,920 Okay. 171 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Again, the price was obvious, so it wasn't really a problem. 172 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Ed had the highest overall score, so that seemed like an easy call, but I was just curious. 173 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,520 It's something I've wondered about. 174 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,240 You've shown us these many times. 175 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,080 I've never really quite understood the background behind it. 176 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,080 So thank you. 177 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Yes, sir. 178 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Not a problem. 179 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Any other questions? 180 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,040 So I have one last question. 181 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:28,320 I keep bringing it up and I'm hoping we can get it eventually added to the slide deck. 182 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,700 The limited sidewalk work, where is that? 183 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:32,700 What is that? 184 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:33,700 Is it reconstruction? 185 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:34,920 Is it any extensions? 186 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,420 Just on that map where you showed, sometimes there are like four colors on the map. 187 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:45,520 These are reading road only, these are getting utilities, if it's possible to add the layer 188 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,360 of sidewalks, like what areas will be getting sidewalk work in those spots? 189 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Understood, yeah. 190 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,000 I believe it's reconstruction. 191 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,160 I do believe there is a portion here that's being taken out and replaced and then other 192 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,960 places that are deemed not suitable that were in the project area based on aging and current 193 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,960 conditions. 194 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Right, yeah. 195 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,720 And I think this neighborhood is maybe a little more straightforward than some of the other 196 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,760 ones where it varies block to block a lot. 197 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:19,480 So, like I said, if possible, we could start adding that in as a layer of what the work 198 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,480 is. 199 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Yeah. 200 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,200 All right. 201 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Seeing no other discussion, consider a motion. 202 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Second. 203 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Ryan McLean. 204 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Second. 205 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Larry Beck seconds. 206 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,240 All in favor, say aye. 207 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Aye. 208 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Opposed? 209 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Now, we'll call back in our chair. 210 00:08:52,760 --> 00:09:04,600 Okay, Thomas, do you want to tell us a little bit about yourself? 211 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,600 I'm sorry. 212 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,720 I meant to do that earlier. 213 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,720 Yeah. 214 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,720 My name is Thomas Plotk. 215 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,960 I recently moved to Denton about two years ago. 216 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Prior to that, I lived in the central Texas region in Bell County, assisted in various 217 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,600 capacities in Bell County. 218 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Currently, I work with Thomson Reuters and Legal Cells. 219 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Welcome aboard. 220 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Okay. 221 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:34,520 We'll move on to item C for individual consideration, which is management reports. 222 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,520 That's you, Tony? 223 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Yes, sir. 224 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,680 So, Mr. Chair, members of the board, the first item that we have for you is an update from 225 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:44,960 solid waste on a comprehensive diversion ordinance. 226 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,920 You received that in your backup. 227 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 I see that Mr. Eugene McKinney's here. 228 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,920 If anyone has any questions, he'd be happy to go through that for you. 229 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,920 All right. 230 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,920 I'm glad to see what we're working on now. 231 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Eugene will come on. 232 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Good morning. 233 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Good morning. 234 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Good morning. 235 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,920 Good morning. 236 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:08,480 My name is Eugene McKinney, I'm Deputy Director of Solid Waste and Recycling. 237 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,480 How can I help this morning? 238 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Yes, sir. 239 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,480 I have a question. 240 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,240 I noticed on the timeline for this ordinance that we're going to get a work session on 241 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,840 the 27th of March, which would be our last meeting before the City Council gets a chance 242 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,840 to look at it. 243 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,200 I would like to see this, if at all possible, even if in draft form, the meeting before 244 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,840 that, so two weeks prior. 245 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,520 You'd like to see it two weeks prior? 246 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Yes, sir. 247 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,520 OK. 248 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,520 I think we can accommodate that request. 249 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,520 Just an overview. 250 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Where are we at? 251 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,640 Where does the draft look like so that we're able to get a little sense of it before it 252 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,680 actually arrives here for us to say to the board, yes, please do this. 253 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:45,680 Absolutely. 254 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:46,680 I believe we can accommodate that request. 255 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:47,680 That was it. 256 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:48,680 Thank you. 257 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:49,680 Yes, sir. 258 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:50,680 Mr. Beck. 259 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:51,680 Thank you. 260 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:52,680 Just curious. 261 00:10:52,680 --> 00:11:00,280 You mentioned that a percentage of the commercial enterprises were working with the city on 262 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:06,240 their recyclables or they had third party individuals, but that left a lot of people 263 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,240 who didn't have anybody. 264 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:13,120 So I'm assuming that the recyclables went to just trash as landfills, is that correct? 265 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,440 And that will be a fair assessment, and part of this process will identify those where 266 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,000 they have nothing that's going to trash to kind of pull that out of the trash and find 267 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:30,560 a source, i.e., a Pratt facility or a third party processing. 268 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:35,600 So part of this process will help identify those who don't have anything and provide 269 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,600 something. 270 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,920 So I'm assuming the goal here will be to get those people on the straight and narrow path 271 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,320 of recycling their stuff one way or another. 272 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Absolutely. 273 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Because when you talk about diversion, and we know the customers that we service and 274 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,880 some of the third parties, but the question mark becomes the other products that's out 275 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,880 there, where is it going? 276 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Yeah. 277 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,040 We like to account for all of that because all of that fits into our diversion strategy. 278 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,040 Okay. 279 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Good deal. 280 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Thank you. 281 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:12,720 So I read the article in the paper, of course, the paper online or whatever, but it looks 282 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:20,760 like you guys are headed towards a mandatory recycling program for a commercial company's 283 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,760 businesses. 284 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:28,440 You know, when you go into, you know, on the municipal side, when you start saying mandatory, 285 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,200 we want to strongly encourage. 286 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Yeah. 287 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,200 It's about the environment, right? 288 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,200 It's about landfill space. 289 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,820 There's so many things that's involved. 290 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:40,480 But we believe that a lot of these items that are being disposed of has a natural recycling 291 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,480 process, right? 292 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,920 That's through some bio that we can put in our astride landfill, but the other products, 293 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:50,620 there's a processing for the third life, first life, second life, third life. 294 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:53,360 So we strongly, strongly encourage. 295 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Very good. 296 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,360 I think it's a good idea. 297 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,360 I appreciate it. 298 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,720 I know it's going to be very difficult to enforce or move forward. 299 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Yeah. 300 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:09,360 So, you know, even that, when we say enforce, from the customer perspective, right, compliance, 301 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,360 they love compliance. 302 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,360 How do we comply? 303 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,200 You know, how do we help you all comply? 304 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,120 You know, it's about the approach, right? 305 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,200 You know, I say it often within the department, it's honey or vinegar, right? 306 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,800 We want to use some honey here to draw those customers and get their buy-in from the community. 307 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,400 Get some education going. 308 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Absolutely. 309 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,400 You bet. 310 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Thank you. 311 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Anybody else? 312 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Kevin? 313 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,400 I look forward to seeing the draft. 314 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,400 I'm really curious. 315 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,520 I think, you know, Peter Biltz and Tetra PACS already have programs. 316 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,480 All they're going to do is give us their reports, you know? 317 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,680 The small businesses, I think, will be the ones where they lack the infrastructure or 318 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,800 the administrative capacity to go find a third party or perhaps they don't think they have 319 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,800 room for a recycling dumpster or something like that. 320 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:02,480 And those are the ones where I think we need to help them comply, right? 321 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Give them, you know, the reason our recycling rate for residential, like everybody gets 322 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:07,880 a residential cart. 323 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Every house. 324 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,880 Every cart. 325 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,880 You have a blue cart. 326 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,280 And not everybody has to use it, but just having it there creates an education, creates 327 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 the opportunity for use, that kind of thing. 328 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,960 I know a lot of small businesses on old buildings with limited dumpster space, you know, we 329 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,160 might need some creative solutions on the -- to provide them the infrastructure they 330 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,160 need. 331 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160 But I do look forward to the plan. 332 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,400 I think this is a great step in the right direction. 333 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,880 And we understand that infrastructure is going to be a challenge for some of the smaller 334 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:38,880 businesses, right? 335 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:39,880 So, you know, we're here. 336 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,880 We're partners, right? 337 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,880 We're community partners. 338 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,880 We'll work with them. 339 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,160 You know, container sizes, carts, whatever, whatever would -- we want to sit down and 340 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:56,320 talk and kind of work these things out to come to that, you know, that agreeable solution. 341 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Thank you all. 342 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,320 >> Thank you. 343 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,320 >> Thank you. 344 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,320 >> All right. 345 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:06,640 So, going on to the next item that we included was feature agenda, a matrix, where you have 346 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:13,960 a couple of items coming up for you, principally, just wanted to put on here the dates of budgetary 347 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,960 related items. 348 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Certainly, Nick Benson is here if you guys have any questions regarding those. 349 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,560 But hopefully, they'll kind of plan out for you over the next coming months what may be 350 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,560 coming in the agenda. 351 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 If you see a blank there, it doesn't mean that there's nothing on the agenda. 352 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,480 There'll be plenty on the agenda. 353 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,840 These are just items that we've tried to highlight for you. 354 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,000 And then the final item is just the new business action items. 355 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,740 As you can see on here, we've completed three of the items that were on there for some time. 356 00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:47,440 And then we did have, at the last meeting, Mr. Ryback did request some additional information. 357 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,840 I think he's spoken with Becky and Steven, and they're working on that. 358 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,840 And we'll be planning to bring that back to you in a work session or a memo. 359 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,560 They'll have that information back to you, hopefully, for the next meeting. 360 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,800 So with that, that concludes the manager report. 361 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,440 Happy to answer any questions you have. 362 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:08,160 If there's something new that you'd like to add, just let us know. 363 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:16,840 Nothing yet, other than Mr. Ryback's request, which was a good request to get a little headstart 364 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:23,400 on the Solid Waste program. 365 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,000 So since I usually do this, who's going to entertain a motion? 366 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,720 I'm going to be adjourned, all right. 367 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,720 All those in favor? 368 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Aye. 369 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,240 That was quick. 370 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Adjournment just requires a second, right? 371 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,240 I can really-- 372 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,240 I can adjourn it. 373 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,240 You can actually adjourn as the chair. 374 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,240 It's just more fun, this one. 375 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:43,240 [AUDIO OUT]