WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.900 good morning city of didn't meeting agenda for the mobility committee and 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:13.360 after the on Wednesday January 25th 10 a.m. after determining that a quorum is 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:17.320 present the mobility committee of the city of didn't is going to convene in a 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:23.600 regular meeting today in the council work session room and we are going to 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:29.120 start with the following items that will be considered first item citizens 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:36.240 comment on the agenda items no there's no one to comment on the agenda items 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:44.520 when the number two in the items for individual consideration MC 2 3 - 0 0 1 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:53.800 consider approval of the minutes of October 26 2022 and second so we are in 00:00:53.800 --> 00:01:04.120 agreement and that passes B MC 2 3 0 0 3 receive a report and hold a discussion 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.960 regarding the city of didn't transportation mobility project status 00:01:07.960 --> 00:01:10.400 report 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:24.080 perfect timing thank you councilmember bird we have John pollster here from 00:01:24.080 --> 00:01:30.680 innovative transportation solutions to present today how was everybody doing 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:40.040 great Merry Christmas okay let's roll through skip the summary sheet for now 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:48.600 all right so I'm gonna put down just a little bit here so 2181 I don't know if 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:53.120 y'all driven over there lately but the road is essentially I'm gonna leave it 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.680 on the map essentially open to traffic and substantially complete the March 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:07.480 time frame that you see there is for what the tech stock calls some punch out 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:13.760 final walk through some pavement markings just making sure the sod done 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:21.520 right but if you drive there it's gonna that's what it looks like hopefully for 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:28.280 another 20 25 years we don't do it again okay so that's good and I don't know 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.200 what y'all feelings are but I don't think anybody at the county's interested 00:02:31.200 --> 00:02:34.840 in having like a ribbon cutting or anything like that because they don't 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:41.380 want to draw the attention to the fact that it took so long to get done okay 35 00:02:41.380 --> 00:02:48.640 Mayhill project this is a currently we have about 95 million dollars on the job 00:02:48.640 --> 00:02:55.520 it's gonna it's about 103 now we are think we'll have it ready to let by the 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.720 end of this year there's utilities that are that are still continuing to be 00:03:00.720 --> 00:03:06.520 moved the let date you see is June of 2025 that was when we first got the 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:11.880 money the category two funds in the 10-year plan that's the year they put it 00:03:11.880 --> 00:03:19.240 in so we met with the district I think earlier this month and if we get the 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:26.480 project ready in December they can move the project up to that fiscal year I 00:03:26.480 --> 00:03:31.360 mean to this yeah that it'll be next fiscal year for construction and by the 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:38.000 time we get there we'll have the dollar amount either adjusted to be accurate or 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.920 we'll have the additional funds for the project so when you look at the status 00:03:42.920 --> 00:03:50.440 report mostly utilities or what we're working on and we're on track for a 00:03:50.440 --> 00:04:00.640 December completion of all the utilities there's a lot of them okay then you get 00:04:00.640 --> 00:04:13.400 to our 35 merge project this project is going to be let in November of this year 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:25.200 the funding is we're about a hundred fifty million short but when you look at 00:04:25.200 --> 00:04:29.080 the next project you'll see that it's about a hundred and seventy over and 00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:35.360 it's going to be a paper chase thing we got to do because that money is in an 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:41.280 out year this money is in this year and so by the time we get to November we'll 00:04:41.280 --> 00:04:48.840 have all that worked out and this is the two merges all the way up to 77 and it's 00:04:48.840 --> 00:04:52.920 the widening of six lanes and adding all of the frontage roads and the braided 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:59.520 ramps to solve the issues between the merge and 380 00:04:59.520 --> 00:05:08.720 yes when I look at the yellow coming down both 35 and 35 W is that when you 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:12.880 say frontage roads because there's no frontage roads there now at least 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:18.080 correct are they adding frontage roads though the project includes frontage 00:05:18.080 --> 00:05:26.520 roads and going to six lanes of main lanes and here we're also doing braided 00:05:26.520 --> 00:05:31.880 ramps between the merge and 380 which is where the entrance and the exit are in 00:05:31.880 --> 00:05:38.000 the same location typically the exits at grade and the entrance is elevated to go 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:50.280 over that way you don't impact any of the Billy come on man come on Billy so 00:05:50.280 --> 00:05:54.160 how far down are the frontage roads coming from this because I mean there's 00:05:54.160 --> 00:06:00.640 no frontage how they stop north of the railroad tracks because what's north of 00:06:00.640 --> 00:06:06.200 the railroad tracks okay I'm trying to because I live over in that area I'm 00:06:06.200 --> 00:06:12.120 trying to figure out where 35 W yeah I'm sorry 35 W coming down 35 there's a 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:18.400 railroad what there's an area that because of the lack of developable land 00:06:18.400 --> 00:06:25.600 it stops just north of where there's no developable opportunity so it's right 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:31.680 around a railroad track where that is okay all right okay good thank you I 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:37.400 wanted to make a comment about that area as well but this is what I've 00:06:37.400 --> 00:06:47.680 experienced trying to get the apogee center apogee from going south on 35 W 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:56.760 that's quite a task to get off at the right area and to find the the ramp to 00:06:56.760 --> 00:07:01.880 go back down towards oak street is that oak a body break sorry are you saying 00:07:01.880 --> 00:07:06.440 you're traveling south on 35 right you're on 35 W and I want to turn back 00:07:06.440 --> 00:07:10.440 around and go north I know I don't want to turn I want to go to apogee stadium 00:07:10.440 --> 00:07:15.520 and so I finally I've gotten lost doing that well I've gotten turned around 00:07:15.520 --> 00:07:22.320 doing that and found myself in the industrial area because there's no sign 00:07:22.320 --> 00:07:29.440 that says exit here for apogee stadium literally yeah there there won't be a 00:07:29.440 --> 00:07:35.560 sign that says exit for apogee stadium because they don't sign those types of 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:41.760 things on a on a state facility okay so they're like if you go out on 121 out to 00:07:41.760 --> 00:07:46.160 the colony and you see Nebraska furniture there there's a sign says 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.480 Nebraska furniture that's because it says Nebraska furniture Boulevard so the 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:55.040 name of the road is Nebraska furniture okay so they don't they don't give you 00:07:55.040 --> 00:08:00.960 green signs for stuff like that okay well I after maybe three or four times 00:08:00.960 --> 00:08:06.100 kind of getting turned around because I'm looking for oak I guess West Oak 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:11.480 Street or Oak Street I don't know what I'm looking for but I know that what I 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:19.480 found out was that I needed to exit and then go up to a ramp but that's not 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:25.600 Bonnie Bray that's in some kind of industrial area 15 15 and that's and 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:30.160 then you bridge over back right yeah that's and so if you make the mistake of 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.800 going to Cavender's you can't get back south on 35 V without going 35 W up on 00:08:35.800 --> 00:08:40.440 15 15 come back over right and then come around on a frontage road that's but 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:46.600 that'll all change when we have the braids okay for the ultimate improvements 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.240 it'll be and then remember we're also doing something to Bonnie Bray whether 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:55.600 we're flipping okay some stuff there too so it should be after we break it all 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.360 up and tear it all up and fix it it should be better okay well looking 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:08.480 forward to that and then speaking of this this is the northern segment from 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.480 three from 77 all the way up to the county line and again you'll see that 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:20.120 it's got almost 800 million attached to it and it's we only need about 660 so 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:23.960 we're gonna work on these two projects to balance them out but again if you see 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:33.520 these are in out years years so not only we had to move it up for for this job we 00:09:33.520 --> 00:09:37.240 need to move it up for the previous job so we're fairly confident that we'll get 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:43.440 that done through the UTP process and again it's all critical path items are 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.400 just all the utilities that we're moving at this point all the right always 00:09:46.400 --> 00:09:57.240 acquired okay so your frontage roads this is there they're stopping at 24 49 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:02.080 going north because when they do the ultimate 35 W that they'll pick up that 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:08.560 section between 24 49 and north of the rural tract the good news was in the 00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:12.160 last UTP it was had zero dollars on it and we were able to get a hundred and 00:10:12.160 --> 00:10:21.000 eighty eight million dollars in category 12 funds but then the economy did what 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:28.640 it did and now that estimate is at 321 million so we are working to see 00:10:28.640 --> 00:10:36.640 whether we can get additional funds or just go ahead and find certain areas that 00:10:36.640 --> 00:10:42.440 we can do the frontage roads on so we're we got some work to do on this one but 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.960 we got a little bit of time because it's not even going to be ready to let till 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:54.880 December of next year so we got we got about two years to do stuff and we're in 00:10:54.880 --> 00:10:59.600 the process of acquiring the right away and we should have the right away 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.200 completed by summer which would then allow us to move into the utility 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:14.600 relocations your 380 377 this is a section between the loop and 377 north 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:20.960 we are anticipating this project being done at the end of this year and we just 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.840 had our one of our pavement phase two 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:37.280 configurations are just happened and we are now shifting the lanes and then 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:40.120 we're doing that I think it's the south bounce the north bounce out we did the 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.520 we did the 10-foot shared path on the north side while we were doing the south 00:11:44.520 --> 00:11:49.000 side now we're flipping the phase and now we're going to be building the north 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:54.520 side and then the south side sidewalk 00:11:54.520 --> 00:12:02.160 easy for me to say okay then yeah this is the 288 West this is the project on 00:12:02.160 --> 00:12:08.720 the on the west side and it is the the dollar amount we're talking about their 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:14.120 190 million that we're chasing for this project includes we've upgraded the 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:21.200 intent on this road before we were just going to do the southbound frontage road 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:28.520 but that 190 that we're chasing builds both frontage roads in both directions 00:12:28.520 --> 00:12:32.800 so 100% of the right away will be acquired and we'll put the frontage 00:12:32.800 --> 00:12:39.360 roads where they belong and they will build the grade separation 380 and over 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:49.720 the railroad track in this phase and then the northern section we're adding 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:56.200 frontage roads to look 288 we are we're really working in this area here we're 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.520 going to adjust your map because that and that looks like we're going cross 00:13:00.520 --> 00:13:05.360 country to get to 380 but we're really working pretty close and to where they 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:10.240 tie together and the intent is ultimately 380 is going to be a freeway 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:16.520 both in your mobility plan county's mobility plan and the state's intent so 00:13:16.520 --> 00:13:21.000 when it comes to the to city of Denton we're going to want the the freeway 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:27.280 traffic to go up onto the section of 288 that's a freeway to hit 35 and then on 00:13:27.280 --> 00:13:34.240 around to 380 so that at that point you can take 380 through Denton and make it 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.520 a no truck route they'll have to go around they can't if they're cutting 00:13:37.520 --> 00:13:41.600 through they got to go around if they're coming to deliver then they can come in 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:48.920 but we're gonna work on this this a little bit better right here lots of 00:13:48.920 --> 00:13:56.040 development out there so Bonnie Bray segment 7 this is the this is basically 00:13:56.040 --> 00:14:01.960 the next once the city and the county do all their partnering with cog to get it 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:08.840 up to 77 then text that and cog take it from there and tie this into the loop so 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:14.440 when I go back up here when we're doing this project you'll see that loop 288 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:21.160 and it used to be Pacheco Cove now it's Westwood that design work and 00:14:21.160 --> 00:14:28.440 environmental clearance includes this section of Bonnie Bray and the frontage 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.980 road so this is not showing you on us is an individual project because it's 00:14:33.980 --> 00:14:42.120 segment 7 of your Bonnie Bray but it's actually included and the loop 288 North 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:51.600 connector project and then 1515 this is where you were talking about what happens 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:56.320 is you come down you come up this ramp and then you hit here and they have to 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:00.940 come across and you come down into this area where we're working on all this 00:15:00.940 --> 00:15:09.120 with Bonnie Bray 1515 and the merge project and again we're looking at a 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:18.040 October 24 ready to let date we're short about 46 million dollars but we'll get 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:27.000 there and utilities are or are part of the critical path item on this project 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:34.160 1173 we've got half working on that and we are going to reduce the limits 00:15:34.160 --> 00:15:39.560 officially to just east of the railroad tracks because crumb proper does not want 00:15:39.560 --> 00:15:44.200 us to come in to all the way to 156 because it impacts a lot of their 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:49.800 historical facilities and if we're not going to go into Old Town then we're not 00:15:49.800 --> 00:15:55.040 going to mess with the railroad either so we'll stop it early they're advancing 00:15:55.040 --> 00:16:04.480 all of the work on the eastern portion of 1173 so as the merged job rolls out 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:20.160 we can add this part of 1173 to 35 job yeah where is that in reference that is 00:16:20.160 --> 00:16:28.600 up at that Milam you know it's not cancer it's Milam is that that's north 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:33.320 of here north okay got you that's up here okay yeah so the reason I know it's 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.760 Milam is because that's where the outer loop hits 35 okay and we had to 00:16:37.760 --> 00:16:41.680 reconfigure you the Milam interchange two reasons one for the direct connects 00:16:41.680 --> 00:16:46.160 for the outer loop too because that's where the counties got their land for 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:55.760 the expo do we know if you know because Universal Studios went to Frisco do we 00:16:55.760 --> 00:16:58.920 know if we ever had any conversations with them about that land up north I 00:16:58.920 --> 00:17:06.920 don't know that I don't but a lot of the infrastructure for that is being paid 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:14.320 for by the county yeah just saying that's Collin County I think yeah but 00:17:14.320 --> 00:17:18.000 there's there's a lot of infrastructure there that we had to do yeah so the 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:29.880 outer loop moving on okay so here ties here at Milam and that part of 35 is 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:34.980 already environmentally cleared so we generally know we have to hit there the 00:17:34.980 --> 00:17:38.760 rest of this is consistent with your thoroughfare plan which means it's 00:17:38.760 --> 00:17:45.600 consistent with the counties because we match the city we have to cross the 00:17:45.600 --> 00:17:51.600 green belt where the core tells us to which is at 428 and what if you ask him 00:17:51.600 --> 00:17:55.280 they're going oh no we're not telling you where to go you just got to go and 00:17:55.280 --> 00:17:59.440 do all your analysis or whatever but what they tell you probably is is if you 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:07.440 go anywhere before 28 we're gonna make it impossible so I say that on the 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.600 record because when I say that it has to cross at 428 because that's what the 00:18:11.600 --> 00:18:15.600 core says and then somebody contacts the core the quarter so no no we're fair-minded 00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:21.520 and open we're willing to look at all options and then I get called all kinds 00:18:21.520 --> 00:18:28.680 of things and they said well let's go up over the dam working with Aubrey Aubrey 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:34.040 has a I don't know what you call it an angel investor or whatever there's a big 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:40.680 landowner out there the venable ranch folks and anytime anything impacts the 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.960 alignment that's on our thoroughfare plan and Albert's thoroughfare plan he 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:50.240 goes out and buys the land so we're we're put it although this is where all a lot 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:56.000 of activities going on we we've got some protection there and then it ties in at 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:03.720 the county line where at where Collin County brings it if you go drive the new 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:09.440 frontage road for the DNT you can go all the way into Grayson County now it ties 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:13.560 in you'll see there's a sign on the Collin County side for the road that 00:19:13.560 --> 00:19:18.320 comes to that frontage road that says outer loop so that's we have to hit 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:23.640 there and the reason you know we're saying we need this and everybody knows 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:29.800 is that when Texas I did their study on 380 to talk about a freeway they 00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:34.480 communicated through their demographic studies that the section between the Toll 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:43.520 Road the outer loop 377 and 380 in this little area the number of planned 00:19:43.520 --> 00:19:49.160 developments over the next 10 years will put 90,000 people in that little square 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:53.960 and that's the size of Richardson when we went to meet with pilot point because 00:19:53.960 --> 00:20:00.280 have ETJ somewhere in here for the outer loop pilot point has 13 developments 00:20:00.280 --> 00:20:05.640 going on in pilot point over the next three years and when those three 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.040 developments 13 developments are done in the next three years they'll go from 00:20:09.040 --> 00:20:16.880 about 5200 to 71,000 so we're behind the curve is what we're saying on the outer 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:24.840 loop and now I'm going to turn over did you say pilot point would go from 5,000 00:20:24.840 --> 00:20:31.800 today 70 three or four years 71,000 yeah which is not unprecedented because if 00:20:31.800 --> 00:20:38.480 you remember when I started working for the county in 90 in my this capacity of 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:47.200 96 Frisco is only about 7,000 right yeah what going on out there 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:57.760 very interesting okay I call it tragic but very tragic it's job security are 00:20:57.760 --> 00:21:14.320 you gonna do almost there we go okay if I could get the mic to turn on of course 00:21:14.320 --> 00:21:18.280 I will so Elmond Lucas I know we've talked a lot about you've seen some 00:21:18.280 --> 00:21:23.560 updates in the Friday reports so we have coordinated with textile given all of our 00:21:23.560 --> 00:21:28.240 comments back to them on the southern section which is from basically south of 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:33.160 the courthouse to Eagle including Eagle and they are now taking that project 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:38.860 forward to Austin to get the approvals and work through that process so once we 00:21:38.860 --> 00:21:42.000 have that information back then of course I'll come and share that with you 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:47.320 and we did go back and forth with them on an overall roadway cross-section and 00:21:47.320 --> 00:21:55.600 we were able to explain the need for the overall and not to play words from last 00:21:55.600 --> 00:22:01.560 night but on the base the overall roadways so you know a lot of our 00:22:01.560 --> 00:22:05.040 conversations was making sure that the foundation that the roadways going to be 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:09.080 built on really meets the city standard so we were able to work through that with 00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:13.440 them also include some curb Danny Kramer and his team worked through and walk 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:19.040 that to make sure that we have curb and gutter replaced in those areas and so we 00:22:19.040 --> 00:22:23.360 feel very comfortable with what we are taking forward and now a textile is 00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:28.440 taking that as the next step once it comes back from Austin and we're all in 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:32.240 alignment and we are going to be working on that agreement that I mentioned I'd 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.360 be bringing forward as you're aware north of the courthouse all the way to 00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:42.840 380 and a few little side roads so just so you're aware some of the construction 00:22:42.840 --> 00:22:48.200 will happen for utility specifically you know around the courthouse because 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:53.160 there's a lot of areas through there that we don't want to disturb but what I 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:58.760 will explain to you is our goal is to have that project and and John worked 00:22:58.760 --> 00:23:03.160 with us on the Denton County trip that was the county bond program y'all are 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:09.160 all aware that was approved and so that is going to include the roadway and then 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:13.920 some of the drainage components utility components will be paid for by the city 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:19.600 of Denton and then once all of that is completed we'll be taking over the the 00:23:19.600 --> 00:23:25.120 goal is to take over Elman Locust from 380 to Eagle and so I know we've talked 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:29.720 a little bit that in a recent council meeting so it's moving right along John 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:33.380 did tell us that we're gonna be a part of that first batch of money that was 00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:38.960 received from the county so we can work through getting the design completed 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.880 we're gonna have some right-of-way acquisition and then move through with 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:47.600 the construction and one thing I would mention too is some of this area you see 00:23:47.600 --> 00:23:51.800 Oakland Street that's one that came up in the bond package last night so there 00:23:51.800 --> 00:23:56.680 are a lot of things going on in this area including north of 380 so I'm very 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:01.280 pleased with where we're headed and very thankful for the help that the county's 00:24:01.280 --> 00:24:05.000 given us and then techs not really working with us hand-in-hand to agree to 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.120 an overall cross-section that is something the city can be comfortable 00:24:08.120 --> 00:24:14.840 with taking over so that's Elman Locust I did want to mention John back on 380 00:24:14.840 --> 00:24:19.760 when you were on that slide particularly talking about a truck route I know it 00:24:19.760 --> 00:24:24.480 was in a recent Friday report it is not currently a truck route to drive through 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:30.840 the center of town you're saying it is you have them restricted already that's 00:24:30.840 --> 00:24:36.120 correct so they had to go around now if they're delivering as you mentioned so 00:24:36.120 --> 00:24:41.960 but I do think it is a you know the goal city's goal to make sure that we're 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:46.320 providing as you're aware and John knows this that there's a lot and he really 00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:50.320 helped us with this there's a lot of development activity that wants to happen 00:24:50.320 --> 00:24:54.640 in this particular area and the developers that come through would have 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:58.360 to build the frontage roads themselves because we won't allow the direct 00:24:58.360 --> 00:25:02.080 connection to a controlled access freeway because they're going 60 miles 00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:06.200 per hour on this roadway so we really appreciate John and we've been working 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:11.840 with mr. Schluter with Westwood monthly we actually have some alignments and 00:25:11.840 --> 00:25:15.840 some exhibits that we've sat down and gone over as a team actually Monday of 00:25:15.840 --> 00:25:19.720 this week and they're going to be sharing with our utilities teams because 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:25.440 there's already infrastructure out there large DME infrastructure and also a 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:30.280 Sherman Drive is the main the route from the Ray Roberts to get the water line 00:25:30.280 --> 00:25:34.160 the transmission line all the way into town so we're working through those 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.960 things and then of course the connection that at Bonnie Bray too is another area 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.480 there is one section throughout this corridor we're currently working on 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.320 that's a pretty tight section where there's homes that are built almost 00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:50.480 exactly to the right of way and so those meetings are ongoing and those also 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:54.440 involve our development services team their transportation planning team so 00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:59.480 really excited about this project also moving forward so we appreciate John's 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:05.320 assistance with that and the county's assistance I have a question 00:26:05.320 --> 00:26:11.720 speaking of the specs for the for the roadway down here on Locust and in this 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:19.000 area here is that going to be the same specs for what's north of the square or 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:25.240 is it something's going to change that's gonna cause in our minds as citizens a 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:31.760 delay so anytime that we do a design of a roadway there is an overall study 00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:37.400 that's done to look at the actual soil condition to make the determination so 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.460 we do have a standard city spec that says thou shalt build X or you can have 00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:45.880 an engineering design that's actually done where you actually take pavement 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:51.160 cores look at what the existing you know soil type is in those areas and then 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:55.560 receive that engineering recommendation so until we have that information I 00:26:55.560 --> 00:26:58.520 don't know what the cross-section is going to look like unless we were to 00:26:58.520 --> 00:27:02.200 use the city standard but it's our recommendation that we would actually go 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:07.380 through do the evaluation and then from there be able to determine exactly what 00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:12.080 cross-section so you know I would think it would probably be something similar 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:14.960 to what we see on the south side but until we have that actual engineering 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:19.920 design with those soil samples we won't know that answer in the other question 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.680 in regards to crossing over into the downtown area I understand that the 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:32.120 crosswalks are getting some upgrades and changes absolutely how is this going to 00:27:32.120 --> 00:27:36.600 affect that we're gonna take it up and put it back down or no and the majority 00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:40.880 of the we don't anticipate doing that because they're out there working right 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.480 now Trevor can speak to that but they're out there constructing right now so our 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:50.800 anticipation would be that we minimally impact as best we can anything through 00:27:50.800 --> 00:27:54.440 the downtown and that's why I mentioned the majority of the utilities in that 00:27:54.440 --> 00:28:01.880 area actually on the backside so on Austin you know on McKinney so or even a 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:06.320 block up Cedar etc so they're all almost on the backside of there where we would 00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:10.480 make those improvements so but our goal would be to minimally interrupt anything 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:16.080 we've just finished completing okay thank you so I think the next is the 00:28:16.080 --> 00:28:22.160 acronyms I will tell you that we are going to add another page because I get 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.920 questions about the categories for funding for state roads all the time 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:31.160 there's 12 of them and so we'll just put another page that says text up funding 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:40.160 categories and one three twelve wisdom but other than that any questions thank 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:45.080 you John do you have any questions thank you thank you so much thank you one 00:28:45.080 --> 00:28:50.880 thing I just wanted to highlight and John spoke to it on his presentation city 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:55.000 staff is actually Trevor's team is actually sitting down with Brett's team 00:28:55.000 --> 00:29:00.560 and working through the FM 1515 alignment we do have their plans adequate in that 00:29:00.560 --> 00:29:05.160 area so we're looking at those corridors and working with text out on that that's 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:12.480 ongoing same with the loop 288 frontage roads there's a lot of coordination 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:16.800 effort so all the projects that you're seeing that John's presenting on we're 00:29:16.800 --> 00:29:21.400 either managing or working through the planning process of with all of our 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.640 improvements so there's a lot of coordination going on with with John and 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.960 with textile it so not only John from the representative he does for the city but 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:33.120 also from the county representation so thank you thank you very much 00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:36.840 absolutely any there's not any more questions comments or concerns about 00:29:36.840 --> 00:29:48.480 that we'll move on to see my John MC 2 2 0 3 7 receive a report hold discussion 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:55.680 or approve mobility committee annual 2023 meeting schedule absolutely so thank 00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:02.080 you very much as you can tell we typically meet on a Wednesday I know 00:30:02.080 --> 00:30:06.720 we've moved the meeting to 10 a.m. and so what we wanted to do today is bring 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:12.440 forward the 2023 calendar our goal is to always try to look at spring break or 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.760 anything else that we know that's happening and so what you'll see is the 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:20.120 calendar Logan's currently put together is the fourth Wednesday of every month 00:30:20.120 --> 00:30:25.200 at 10 a.m. obviously if there's not something to report on or we have a 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.720 conflict we'll work through that but we've tried our best to miss all of the 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:36.160 holidays or any of the the holiday weeks I know the week of December 20th being 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.280 that that's a holiday week there might be the decision like there was this year 00:30:39.280 --> 00:30:43.280 not to meet but it just depends on the topics but what our goal with today is is 00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:46.800 to really work through and make sure there aren't any questions or concerns 00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:53.000 and try to approve this calendar so that we can move forward I will note that on 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:59.300 March 23rd I do know that several of you will be leaving on March 21st to go 00:30:59.300 --> 00:31:03.800 down for another meeting so the March 23rd meeting might be one that we want 00:31:03.800 --> 00:31:08.800 to either look at or look at canceling the week of the 13th through the 17th is 00:31:08.800 --> 00:31:13.840 actually spring break so you know if you would like to move to the 29th we can 00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:17.560 evaluate that but I do believe I know we've changed the council meeting so 00:31:17.560 --> 00:31:22.400 that you can leave and get out of town on the 21st as fast as you can so I know 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.000 you will be gone on the 22nd so that's the only one I would want to mention is 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:31.480 whether we would like to skip the month of March or move to the 29th and so if 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:37.560 we want to move to the 29th we'll definitely check with Billy and also the 00:31:37.560 --> 00:31:40.880 city secretary's office to make sure this room is available and that we can 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:46.820 broadcast from here but I just wanted to bring that up question I've got since 00:31:46.820 --> 00:31:50.720 the year started I've got a meeting on Wednesdays just it's every other 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.880 Wednesday and I'm gonna see if I can't change the interval of the ever other 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.440 Wednesday because right now it's landing on one of the Wednesdays I mean two 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.560 week two Wednesdays out of month for this place and then I've got it and it 00:32:03.560 --> 00:32:08.160 lands on the same one so that meeting ends at 11 so when did we change it to 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:17.880 10 what was it before 9 okay let me talk with them and see if I can't get it on a 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.840 different cycle because we all gotta do skip a Wednesday and then we're off of 00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:26.800 this cycle so let me let me check on that first sure and and if there's 00:32:26.800 --> 00:32:30.400 anything that we would like to do we can obviously revisit bringing it back I 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.840 know we moved to 10 I think mid-year last year Logan may know that 00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:45.080 specifically see her trying to unmute I got it yes we moved probably September 00:32:45.080 --> 00:32:50.080 I believe was when we changed it and I can always check and see if the rooms 00:32:50.080 --> 00:32:54.440 available at different time or no let me see if okay let me check my other thing 00:32:54.440 --> 00:33:01.440 first yeah this is well-established let me let me check that first and I don't 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.840 know if this is off posting somebody can let me know so I'm not sure how to even 00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:15.720 say this so when we get John's reports John's reports about 30 35 minutes it 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.280 seems like a lot of it is sort of the same stuff you know and some of the 00:33:19.280 --> 00:33:24.560 stuff that's doesn't even have to I mean it has to do with the region so I guess 00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:29.480 as I'm sitting here sometimes I'm thinking we don't make any decisions in 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.720 here we don't have so it would be nice if some have something's changed to get 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:38.040 it but if not then that's just sort of my thought just just the efficiency of 00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:42.560 the meeting that doesn't matter to me I'm only one of two but it's like okay if 00:33:42.560 --> 00:33:47.960 it's the same stuff or maybe could just give go-through faster absolutely does 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.560 that make sense yeah it's like okay all right no I completely understand 00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:56.240 because I sat through the same report last week at a meeting that text so I 00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:00.720 see it multiple times - one of the things we've done recently with DCTA is make 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.360 sure that when they give an update it might be off cycle of when you just 00:34:04.360 --> 00:34:09.640 heard the same thing at council right so I'm happy to use our discretion and if 00:34:09.640 --> 00:34:14.600 there's a major up late maybe he comes just quarterly instead of every month so 00:34:14.600 --> 00:34:19.320 that you know or every other month so if there's a major update and I think that 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:24.480 does make a lot of sense he's doing you know he's running through them I think 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:30.440 probably as fast as he possibly can but I do think that that's definitely 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.640 something we can look at and I don't have a concern with that at all if we 00:34:33.640 --> 00:34:38.480 were to look at either every other month or quarterly or as needed is that 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.680 something that or if there's a major update is that something you'd be more 00:34:41.680 --> 00:34:44.920 interested in and I can't because I didn't look at the back of this but this 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.280 his report included in the backup that we get yes sir it shows so if there's 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.640 questions you know if we see something or there can be a note of hey this is a 00:34:53.640 --> 00:34:57.680 major thing I mean and it's not I'm not trying to cut him off or cut them but 00:34:57.680 --> 00:35:01.040 it's like okay I mean because a lot of the stuff we heard today we've already 00:35:01.040 --> 00:35:11.360 heard in council great we're all posting it's close okay I know that we're trying 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.840 to get to actually the scheduling so I think that conversation maybe on an 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.960 agenda that maybe the next one to talk about that or the chair can talk with 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.840 you about it just see if there's something that we can add it to the 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.840 staff report for next time yeah it's a staff report okay I mean it's a 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:31.640 conversation to be had yeah for sure no that's perfect and I think to your point 00:35:31.640 --> 00:35:34.040 you were working on it from a scheduling standpoint but definitely 00:35:34.040 --> 00:35:37.360 we'll add it to the staff report for a future update and I think as far as the 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.120 schedule before you let's leave it I'll work on my end I think I can get mine 00:35:42.120 --> 00:35:45.880 switched okay not a conflict that's wonderful and I think on the March 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.600 meeting would you like to try to go to the 29th do that okay it's a veil this 00:35:50.600 --> 00:36:08.180 room's available then I just knew because of the council meeting being 00:36:08.180 --> 00:36:11.400 changed to a lunch meeting that day in their updates that there was something 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:16.160 happening so I'm sorry it's gonna be for didn't county days Oh didn't county 00:36:16.160 --> 00:36:22.400 days already so what we will do is update to the 29th for March and then we 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.520 will publish the calendar work with the city secretary's office and also with 00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:33.760 the with Billy to make sure that we have this ready to go and we'll send the 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.640 invites to your calendar and get those published so I appreciate the 00:36:37.640 --> 00:36:43.840 conversation and then we'll add as a future agenda item maybe what topics 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:49.400 you'd like to see so we can add that definitely um may I just interject here I 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:54.840 appreciate you know him coming in because there are people that are 00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.640 watching and this may be the only time they can hear that so understand 00:37:00.640 --> 00:37:08.560 alrighty so then the last item last item yes oh we need to make a motion okay I'm 00:37:08.560 --> 00:37:14.620 move that we need to make a motion on it the calendar yeah yeah I'll move proof 00:37:14.620 --> 00:37:24.840 calendar is presented okay second and we're on an agreement thank you my bad 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:35.640 all right MC 2 2 0 3 7 oh we already did that we're on the staff report MC 2 3 0 00:37:35.640 --> 00:37:42.400 0 5 staff report item D absolutely so I have Trevor crane here today he's our 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:47.200 director of capital projects and I'm asking him to give you an update on both 00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:54.800 Bonnie Bray and Hickory Creek and then I will handle the future item so great so 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.440 good morning Trevor crane director of capital projects so today I'll go 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.120 through just a quick update on the Bonnie Bray projects as well as Hickory 00:38:02.120 --> 00:38:07.400 Creek 3 so Bonnie Bray 1 & 2 the both those projects are complete as well as 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:13.800 Bonnie Bray 4a which is the roundabout Bonnie Bray 3 just went to council last 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:19.560 night and that y'all gay council gave us permission to reject those bids so we we 00:38:19.560 --> 00:38:23.680 will be moving forward with rejecting the bids for Bonnie Bray 3 and rebidding 00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:30.320 that as a competitive seal proposal Bonnie Bray 4b that Bonnie Bray 4b and 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.440 Bonnie Bray 5 are both included on that county bond that Becky mentioned earlier 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.120 so as soon as we get funding for those projects we'll be moving forward on 00:38:38.120 --> 00:38:45.080 those just a side note on Bonnie Bray 4b we did have a project that was next to 00:38:45.080 --> 00:38:49.040 that project the north-south water main that when they were closing that project 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:53.040 up they discovered a couple leaks the contractor has gone out fix those leaks 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:58.640 and they're working on fixing those roads as we speak should be done within 00:38:58.640 --> 00:39:05.120 the next two or three weeks weather permitting quick question do we know if 00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:10.000 the lakes were I mean were the lakes so the lakes had been there ever since they 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.520 they put them they put the water lines in I believe so but it was done at the 00:39:14.520 --> 00:39:18.320 towards the end of the project so that would the end of the project is right 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:25.600 there at Bonnie Bray right so my question is so we paved up all the road 00:39:25.600 --> 00:39:33.640 and then we found a two-inch or two small leak in a two-inch service line so 00:39:33.640 --> 00:39:38.480 now service line means it's going to a piece of two service line connections 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:45.360 it's two service line connections correct I guess my question is I mean 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.920 having done plumbing and houses and stuff you know you test your lines and 00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:55.400 so how was this after the final thing was put on or did this occur and they 00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.240 we just missed it we just missed it so this was done after the fact after the 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:03.760 road was paved so there's a lot of reasons why a service line might you 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.000 know might fail after the fact I mean a lot of times they'll even they'll work 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:13.760 when you test them and then all right have we determined that I mean so we we 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.160 obviously tested the line before we started covering it up and paving it it 00:40:17.160 --> 00:40:22.240 was all okay correct yes sir and then finally Bonnie 00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:26.800 Bray phase six so this one is scheduled to go to construction in quarter one of 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:32.520 2023 we're working through one final property through eminent domain we've 00:40:32.520 --> 00:40:36.160 been working with legal and the property owner to acquire that product that 00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:40.900 property hopefully getting pretty close on that and once we get that acquired we 00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:45.280 can move forward with constructing this project this is on the face by the great 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.700 face six okay six yeah and that's the section right that runs adjacent to the 00:40:50.700 --> 00:41:10.760 new the ISD so I can pause right here if y'all have any questions on Bonnie Bray 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:20.520 clarification phase three it goes up to three it goes all the way up to two 00:41:20.520 --> 00:41:29.000 eighty eight or Bonnie Bray is 380 to scripture oh okay yes so the but phase 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:36.120 three specifically is rose on to 35 phase four is from oh yeah you're right 00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:44.160 35 35 scripture okay phase five is from scripture to 380 phase six is from 380 00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:48.440 to 77 okay and as a side note we are looking at our naming convention for 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:54.160 projects yeah yeah I guess I guess one question and we talked about this 00:41:54.160 --> 00:42:00.120 yesterday on the phase three rejecting of the bids and all the different things 00:42:00.120 --> 00:42:05.080 that either you know we could change to get a better accurate bid I guess so my 00:42:05.080 --> 00:42:10.920 question is okay what's going to happen when we repackage it and the bids come 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:19.160 in either the same maybe slightly lower but probably still more than the the 00:42:19.160 --> 00:42:23.040 original budget are you are you anticipating that this repackaging will 00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:29.120 get this bid closer to the budgeted amount or we do so there's a couple 00:42:29.120 --> 00:42:34.040 things kind of working against us with the original bid so let me see how I 00:42:34.040 --> 00:42:40.000 want to say this so this design was done a while back before pride and we 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.280 selected the design firm prior to us establishing our pre-qualified list so 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.800 that led to a lot of the questions that we got from contractors during the bid 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:54.520 process so as they mentioned last night multiple addendums lots of questions so 00:42:54.520 --> 00:42:58.400 when there's questions that leads to risk and contractors if they have but 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.960 they feel there's a risk in the project or it's not really clear they're gonna 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.920 build in those costs in that project with it being a low bid project we don't 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.880 we can't really see the backup or how they've kind of put that risk into the 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.360 project so we've done a couple things we've gone back taking all those 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.120 addendums work those into the design firm or into the design plans so that 00:43:19.120 --> 00:43:23.680 they're clear we feel like we've reduced the risk for the contractor we've also 00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:27.480 extended out the time frame that we expect this project to be built in so 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.800 originally it was 18 months we've extended that out to 24 months that was 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.720 one of the questions and comments we got back from the contractors they felt the 00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:39.640 time frame was too short so they had to build in additional costs for labor and 00:43:39.640 --> 00:43:44.200 equipment and all those types of things and then packaging it as a CSP so a 00:43:44.200 --> 00:43:49.040 competitive sale proposal so the original budget which includes I believe 00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:54.400 RTR County fund or somebody's funds and we do a 20% match so the original budget 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.680 do we remember what the original budget was I don't off the top of my head is 00:43:58.680 --> 00:44:06.800 the 13 million dollar overage was that 20% of the original budget and or that 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:11.400 overage in general is that would be totally our responsibility the city's or 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:15.980 would that be a 20% match so it's whoever's is it the county that's 00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:19.720 providing or is it text out that's providing the I think it's RTR funds 00:44:19.720 --> 00:44:24.080 and I believe so but I have to get back since 80 20 I just remember that so the 00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:28.680 overage would be over the original budget correct is the city's 00:44:28.680 --> 00:44:34.880 responsibility but what I'm hearing you say is the original budget was created 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:41.120 on an old design right estimated on on the old design that you felt so yeah so 00:44:41.120 --> 00:44:45.720 the design didn't change it was just unclear in some of the some of the 00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:49.600 documents so as the contractors were trying to bid on it there were a lot of 00:44:49.600 --> 00:44:52.560 questions on you know how does this work or what am I supposed to do here so 00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:56.680 we've gone back and cleared those up so that there is more clear in that in that 00:44:56.680 --> 00:45:00.160 bidding process so they know what they're bidding on right but I guess my 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:05.520 point is these are my words not yours yeah the design was defective to some 00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:09.920 degree it wasn't as complete as we would have liked it to have been to really get 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:16.000 an accurate bid from a contractor number one which means we probably in our 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.500 budget estimate whoever does that and I'm assuming it's the engineers that 00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:24.000 designed it so yeah so we've checked those numbers yeah we've checked those 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.140 numbers so all the bid quantities against the revised set every all the 00:45:28.140 --> 00:45:31.960 numbers are right so the the quantities that went into the project all those 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.120 things so the in our mind the the cost hasn't changed it's just how the 00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:41.000 contractors perceive those bid items and those design plans and how they bid those 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:46.200 okay great when do you anticipate that going back out oh as soon as we can do 00:45:46.200 --> 00:45:50.880 it so yeah we'll work yeah well we bid it yeah it's ready to go now we were 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.640 just waiting on City Council's direction last night so we'll be ready to get it 00:45:53.640 --> 00:46:00.720 back out on the street so all right so moving on to Hickory Creek Road phase 00:46:00.720 --> 00:46:07.360 three so this is from River Pass Drive to FM 1830 this one was awarded to Mario 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.480 Sincola in quarter three of 2022 I believe they're currently working 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:17.500 through the utility relocations some turning in submittals and RFIs getting 00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:22.080 ready to get out there and work we we expect them to start actual construction 00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:33.320 in quarter one of 2023 I have a question where is Hickory Creek Road is it is it 00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:39.740 down it's Geyer high school somewhere yes yes and that runs over to the 00:46:39.740 --> 00:46:43.640 clubhouse country club room country club room correct okay so I'm in the right 00:46:43.640 --> 00:46:49.320 area right it's so the way Hickory Creek Road is currently configured it has that 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:55.200 big s-curve before it gets the country club road so this bridge will span that 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:59.920 and close down that Hickory Creek Road so it'll span that s-curve Hickory Creek 00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:06.120 and connect at country club I believe okay I'm gonna drive over there just be 00:47:06.120 --> 00:47:14.840 careful I am on be really careful you have any questions no perfect thank you 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:27.920 thank you thank you Trevor alrighty so the next item on our list is to talk 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:35.480 about the future agenda items so the Bonnie Bray Street update is something 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:40.520 that we've been giving you updates on I guess feedback on that would be how 00:47:40.520 --> 00:47:46.000 often would you like to see the updates what happens between a month is really 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.960 probably not substantial enough to bring you back an update on a construction I 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.360 would see where you might want to have an update at least on Bonnie Bray phase 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.000 three since we're getting it back out to bid but just question on what type of 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:03.760 updates you would like to receive on that I personally would like to see every 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:09.440 month okay yeah I mean honestly I mean if there's not much change you can put 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.040 that in the in the in the back up and then just simply say hey are there any 00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:18.120 questions I mean it's perfect yeah no problem that's very simple and you can 00:48:18.120 --> 00:48:22.680 see the paragraphs are very simple on the citywide speed study update we did 00:48:22.680 --> 00:48:26.800 that back in October we did hold the public hearing December 6 that has been 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:31.360 adopted James and his team have been going out and replacing the speed limit 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:36.160 signs so you probably will see that work it's happening you know kind of all over 00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:40.160 town where those replacements need to be made I will tell you our anticipation 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:44.520 when we would bring this back to you would be simply when we hear back from 00:48:44.520 --> 00:48:49.240 textile which they told us could take up to six months on the information we sent 00:48:49.240 --> 00:48:54.120 to them for their review of their roadways so that's the process that they 00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:57.880 have we've already submitted everything to them Brett's been coordinating on 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.560 those efforts but at this time we have not heard back from them we do meet 00:49:01.560 --> 00:49:07.280 with them monthly to ask for updates and follow up on a regular basis but that's 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.520 for any of the roadways that actually were reviewed that are text dots so any 00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:17.200 questions on that item I would anticipate we we're leaving it on here 00:49:17.200 --> 00:49:24.200 just so we bring you back the update when text dots ready but we won't oh got 00:49:24.200 --> 00:49:29.440 it okay Logan separated it out for me so I guess what we're asking we'll remove 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:34.200 number two and then leave number five on here thank you Logan I'm sorry I hadn't 00:49:34.200 --> 00:49:38.520 looked that far down yet so that's that's the goal so we will bring that 00:49:38.520 --> 00:49:45.440 back as soon as textile is ready on the third line is Hickory Creek Road phase 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.240 three update so similarly we'll just bring you that as you know if there's 00:49:49.240 --> 00:49:52.680 not a lot of changes we'll do the same thing for Bonnie braid that is actively 00:49:52.680 --> 00:49:58.960 ongoing and we were very excited to have that project happening Ronnie Road I'm 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.400 sorry not Ronnie wrote I've got that on my brain talking about money very face 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:10.240 six Ryan Road we did provide an update in the September staff report and so I 00:50:10.240 --> 00:50:13.560 think we've explained this before and so I don't know if this is something you 00:50:13.560 --> 00:50:17.880 want to hear regular information on or not but as soon as Hickory Creek phase 00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.640 three gets to a point where we're realizing that we're getting very close 00:50:22.640 --> 00:50:28.480 to construction to be completed and we can sync those up our goal is to when 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:33.160 Hickory Creek phase three completes then Ryan Road would begin and obviously the 00:50:33.160 --> 00:50:38.560 purpose of that is is that those are the major East West corridors along 2181 00:50:38.560 --> 00:50:45.100 that get folks from 2181 to the west side of the side of the town so our 00:50:45.100 --> 00:50:49.040 anticipation is to bring that back there's really no updates we are at 30% 00:50:49.040 --> 00:50:53.640 and on hold until we get to the point where we feel like so keep in mind that 00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:57.400 will go through a design process and then go through the construction but the 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:03.240 construction will not begin until Hickory Creek phase 3 is completed so on 00:51:03.240 --> 00:51:07.120 that one happy to leave it on the agenda there's not really a whole lot to talk 00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:12.800 about at this point because the Hickory Creek phase 3 project is a multi-year 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:18.920 project so and then I guess from so my question would be would you like to us 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.840 to remove Ryan Road because we're really not updating you on it until we get to 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:30.280 the point that's ready to bring the update okay we can remove that one perfect 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.120 Logan has a separate tracker that you're not seeing here that says don't forget 00:51:34.120 --> 00:51:37.360 to bring this back to mobility committee so when we promise we're gonna do 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.920 something we're tracking that we don't miss it so I appreciate her efforts on 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.720 that and then I guess the last thing that I'd like to add to the future item 00:51:45.720 --> 00:51:51.680 is your request to look at the terms for kind of when we see the receive updates 00:51:51.680 --> 00:51:56.680 as I mentioned this is something similar we did with DCTA but looking at from an 00:51:56.680 --> 00:52:00.640 ITS perspective if there's not really a whole lot to bring forward or any 00:52:00.640 --> 00:52:05.060 changes you know how you'd like to work through that so I'm gonna open up that 00:52:05.060 --> 00:52:08.000 discussion for the two of you and kind of figure out what you would like to see 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:14.920 from that perspective well I mean are we going to my John posters report correct 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.120 so are you comfortable I'll have to bring it back as a future agenda item so 00:52:18.120 --> 00:52:20.560 are you comfortable with me bringing it back and at that time we can have the 00:52:20.560 --> 00:52:26.800 discussion yeah okay perfect then we'll put it on the agenda for the February 00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.280 meeting are there any other items you would like for us to bring forward to 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.520 you that you're interested in or anything we can have any staff members 00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:38.600 report on I think I do but it may be more for the whole council okay and that 00:52:38.600 --> 00:52:45.920 is and see attorney's office can a new chair weigh in on this based upon our 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:50.920 discussion yesterday about road impact fees and that the qualified projects 00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.640 are the mobility I think it's the mobility plan that's correct that's what 00:52:54.640 --> 00:53:00.720 I think you said so it'd be interesting to see you know what is on the mobility 00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:05.120 plan either as an example in each one of the sections in the next five years 00:53:05.120 --> 00:53:11.340 that's planned to be either an expansion for capacity or new construction which 00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:15.840 would qualify for those so I think when we talk about that so I don't know that 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.640 that might be something I'll probably just bring that up either in a two 00:53:18.640 --> 00:53:22.960 minute pitch or something because as we go to our public meeting I mean if we 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:26.080 talk about it here we're just going to move it forward to the council but I 00:53:26.080 --> 00:53:30.040 think that data would be important especially for the public hearing when we 00:53:30.040 --> 00:53:35.880 go okay this is so high elevation this is so in the weeds how do we say okay 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:40.800 this is supposed to impact this so I'll put together a two-minute pitch on that 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.800 okay because that's gonna take a little time probably but yeah I've done so no we 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.400 don't need to discuss it here okay yeah wonderful thank you anything else yes 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:57.560 also for these around town projects such as McKinney you know in in phase one 00:53:57.560 --> 00:54:02.680 phase two southeast you know we see the areas that we're taking care of right 00:54:02.680 --> 00:54:09.200 now is there any way that you all can have me to direct the citizens you know 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:16.280 where to go to see how far along the projects are absolutely so why don't we 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:21.540 bring that back as a future agenda item and we can show how we can direct you to 00:54:21.540 --> 00:54:26.000 the areas of where they can receive information and so that's not an issue 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:31.360 at all that's something we have readily available and we're happy to do that 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:36.480 when I came aboard on the City Council you know one of the things that the 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:41.840 southeast neighborhood people South Sedna people brought to my attention 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:48.240 first was Morris Street and right now I know that Morris Street has been given 00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:53.240 some attention but right now as I drive down more Street the only thing that I 00:54:53.240 --> 00:55:00.360 see that's different is the signage for the speed and I'm very cognizant of that 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.800 and I look and match my speed to you know what it's supposed to be sure I'm 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:11.400 doing what the sign is it's it's telling me to do but I'm also getting some 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:18.840 feedback that this street is still being ignored so I think um what would I like 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:24.840 to put that back on the agenda to give me some direction as to what I need to 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.680 tell these folks sure that's not a problem we actually have a project that 00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:33.960 was approved as a part of the DCTA trip okay to do more Street and that's been a 00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:38.000 part of the submission so I think that's fine to bring that back we can bring it 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.800 back as a staff update that's not an issue kind of talk through that and so 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:49.160 definitely that's an easy ask and I'll also ask that we have the traffic team 00:55:49.160 --> 00:55:54.680 to come back out to one of their set of meetings we had one this past Monday I'm 00:55:54.680 --> 00:55:58.680 sure you know one it's going to come up again is there any way we can have them 00:55:58.680 --> 00:56:03.880 your team to come back out to one of the meetings I'll call speak to the chair 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:10.120 of that Association and see we come back out and give an update directly because 00:56:10.120 --> 00:56:15.400 they're seeing a lot of things going on in the neighborhood I'm happy but of 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.960 course I don't drive down those streets every day so I appreciate it if if you 00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:23.320 all will come back out sure I'll work with Trevor on that to find out when 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.720 there's a another update that could be made and if it's something that we need 00:56:27.720 --> 00:56:31.280 to bring forward to the committee we'll do so but okay we'll sidebar that and 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.520 work on when when the next meeting might be available that we can actually come 00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:39.080 and bring some news that's worthy to share so okay and then we had some 00:56:39.080 --> 00:56:43.760 pre-construction meetings with them but giving them an update on a regular basis 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.000 I think Trevor and I can work through that with the team okay no problem 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.200 very much absolutely all right did you have any other streets in particular 00:56:50.200 --> 00:56:57.760 that you want them to take a look at no I mean all of them I'd heard you say 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:02.520 something about Oakland Street whether or not course that's a pretty rough one I 00:57:02.520 --> 00:57:09.120 don't know if I don't remember exactly what we were planning for Oakland Street 00:57:09.120 --> 00:57:12.960 so and we can bring that back to you Oakland was a part of the bond 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:17.320 submission yesterday okay and it is included in one of the 2019 bonds but in 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:21.000 order to do that project we actually need to reconstruct quite a bit of 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:25.200 drainage in that area so that will come up during the bond discussions and so 00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:28.720 it's probably applicable for that to come up during that time frame versus 00:57:28.720 --> 00:57:32.240 us bring something to you separately okay but if you have particular questions we 00:57:32.240 --> 00:57:36.140 can definitely help you with that all right thank you all right you have 00:57:36.140 --> 00:57:43.160 anything else sir yeah well that's it for us 00:57:43.160 --> 00:57:48.520 are there any concluding items did you have any kind of concluding items okay 00:57:48.520 --> 00:57:53.840 well I am going to declare this meeting and so we don't need we're not talking 00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.080 about any kind of future dates right now that's okay well I'll declare this 00:57:57.080 --> 00:58:03.680 meeting closed at 11 o'clock all right thank you very much