WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.760 All right. So with a quorum being present, I will now call this City of Denton Economic 00:00:09.760 --> 00:00:17.040 Development Partnership Board meeting on Wednesday, January 11, 2020 to order. Just want to remind 00:00:17.040 --> 00:00:22.920 everyone that this is being live streamed and recorded. So please say your name and 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:29.920 before you speak and speak loudly and clearly. And if you have phones, please turn those 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.600 off for the time being because I can't imagine anything more important than what we are doing 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:42.160 here together today. Let's change the world. We're going to start with items for consideration 00:00:42.160 --> 00:00:51.280 1A, EDP 23-004. Consider approval of the minutes of September 14, 2022. Those were in your 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:59.520 packet and distributed prior to today. At this time, the Chair will accept a motion for approval 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:07.760 as distributed in a second before we have a discussion. All right. It's been moved. 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:14.320 Do I hear a second? It's a second. All right. It's been moved and seconded. Are there any 00:01:14.320 --> 00:01:22.800 proposed edits to the minutes from where they were distributed? Any further discussion? 00:01:22.800 --> 00:01:28.720 Hearing none, I will call the vote. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. All 00:01:28.720 --> 00:01:35.600 those opposed, please signify by saying nay. And are there any abstentions? All right. 00:01:35.600 --> 00:01:42.880 The motion carries. Items for consideration B, EDP 23-005, elected Chair and Vice Chair 00:01:42.880 --> 00:01:49.200 to the Economic Development Partnership Board. The further information about when that's 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:54.800 supposed to happen and how long those terms are was included in Exhibit 1 in the agenda 00:01:54.800 --> 00:02:00.480 information sheet. But these are one-year terms and anyone who is a voting member of 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:08.000 the board can serve as Chair and/or Vice Chair. The Chair gets together on the agenda before 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:18.240 we have our meetings and proposes on behalf of the board agenda items and governs the 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:23.600 meetings. And the Vice Chair does all of those things as well as fill in to chair the meetings 00:02:23.600 --> 00:02:31.040 if the Chair is absent. Which can only occur less than three times annually for our commitment. 00:02:31.040 --> 00:02:37.040 I read that in what I signed so. Wow. Yeah. You know what, I'm not the only one here that's 00:02:37.040 --> 00:02:46.320 surprised that Steve can read. So this is a huge deal. You know, running one of the top 00:02:46.320 --> 00:02:53.760 five taxpayers in our city and managing the health care of thousands and thousands and 00:02:53.760 --> 00:03:01.360 thousands of citizens. I'm thrilled, thrilled at your commitment to learning to read. Just 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:08.080 kidding. So currently I'm obviously serving as the current Chair and Steve is our Vice Chair. 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:15.280 But at this time I will accept nominations for Chair and then we will move to Vice Chair 00:03:15.920 --> 00:03:20.480 and again you can self nominate as well as nominate someone else. 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:30.320 Council Member Davis. I will nominate Jill Jester for Chair. Second. 00:03:30.320 --> 00:03:37.200 Are there any other nominations for Chair for this next year? 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:48.560 Making it awkward. Just to make sure everyone feels like they've had an opportunity. 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:56.240 All right. Hearing no other nominations. All those in favor of Jill Jester to serve 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:02.480 as Chair for another year, please signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, same sign. 00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:09.680 Nay. I'm just kidding. I got time and it was off. If you could identify yourself. Yeah, Steve. 00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:24.240 Read. Just kidding. Okay. Any abstentions? All right. Well the motion carries almost unanimously 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:30.320 and thank you for putting up with me for another year. Obviously I very much care about the City 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:38.080 of Denton and our prosperity will be. So thank you and sorry to staff and everyone that now has to 00:04:38.080 --> 00:04:44.560 work with me whether you. Okay let's move on to Vice Chair. So at this time the floor is open 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:55.360 for nominations for Vice Chair for this next year of this board. Come on y'all. I did the last one. 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:09.280 Sure. All right. Who did you nominate? Steve Edgar. Are there any other nominations? 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:18.000 All right. So there is one nomination for Vice Chair for this next year of this board and that 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:24.080 is Steve Edgar. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:33.360 please signify by saying nay. Any abstentions? Yeah. Mr. Edgar, congratulations. Thank you. 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:40.080 Oh my gosh. No more than three absences. I'm no more than three absences. All right. 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:54.960 Oh who seconded the motion? I'm gonna say Mr. Davis did because he raised his hand 00:05:54.960 --> 00:06:04.320 right after Mr. Tory did. Yeah I like it. All right well thank you and let's keep moving along. 00:06:04.320 --> 00:06:11.120 Items for consideration CEDP 23-006. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding activities 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.960 and development at Denton Enterprise Airport and we certainly appreciate our speaker coming back 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:23.280 to fill us in on what's happening. The airport is a huge conduit for economic development. 00:06:23.280 --> 00:06:29.520 It's huge as far as visibility in our state and across the nation. It's so much busier than I 00:06:29.520 --> 00:06:34.400 think people realize and we're very pleased to have the airport director here today to tell us 00:06:34.400 --> 00:06:38.720 what's happening, what's on the horizon, and anything that we could be doing to help you. 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:44.240 So welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. I am Scott Gray. I'm the airport director for 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:50.560 Denton Enterprise Airport here in the city and I do have a presentation that you probably got in 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:55.120 your packet in November the last time I was here but believe it or not it was May of 2019 the last 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:59.840 time I was here so probably a lot of things have changed for those that were still on this board. 00:06:59.840 --> 00:07:04.720 I'll cover some of those and in the last two months even some of the PowerPoint has changed 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:14.080 so I'll cover some of those as well. So quickly in 2022 we finished the year with about 00:07:14.080 --> 00:07:20.160 81 ground leases so that would be for anybody leasing land from the city. They typically build 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:23.840 their own facilities so they build their own hangars, they'll build their own office space, 00:07:23.840 --> 00:07:29.600 whatever the case may be. So we have 81 tenants on the airport at the moment, underground leases. 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:36.320 42 businesses, so some of those businesses have multiple properties which our fixed base operators 00:07:36.320 --> 00:07:45.120 do. So 42 businesses, maintenance, aircraft sales, charter, etc. So all of the different 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:50.720 aspects of aviation needs for the folks that visit our airport. We just finished our 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:59.200 base aircraft update. We did a hanger inspection, 425 base airplanes. 36 of those are corporate jets 00:07:59.200 --> 00:08:04.000 and then the spattering of single-engine, multi-engine, med trans helicopters is there 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:09.840 so they have their helicopters there as well. And believe it or not there's two balloons 00:08:09.840 --> 00:08:16.000 that we have. This happens to be an airline pilot that actually does balloons. I think she's been in 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:21.840 a couple of the city events in the last couple of years as well so she does have her balloons 00:08:21.840 --> 00:08:29.120 at the airport as well. We do have two runways. So let's see in 2019 we would have been working 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:35.200 on our second runway. So now we have two runways. In the picture as you can see right here is our 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:42.720 primary runway and then the parallel runway is here. 7,002 feet for the primary, 5,002 feet 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:49.680 for the secondary. The secondary runway was added pretty much to help support flight training and 00:08:49.680 --> 00:08:57.920 separate traffic from faster, larger airplanes to the smaller airplanes which I think has addressed 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:02.240 the reason why we've seen an increase in our operations that I'll cover in a minute. 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:11.200 We have about 950 acres at the airport, most of which you can kind of see is it's right through 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:17.280 here. We do own this property here on this side and we do own this property right here as well 00:09:17.280 --> 00:09:20.480 where the freeway will go through and I'll cover that in a minute as well. 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:32.720 Excuse me, could you reference this? Oh this one over here? Yeah absolutely, absolutely. So as the 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:38.880 title says busiest general aviation airport in the state of Texas. One can argue that but the state 00:09:38.880 --> 00:09:44.320 said it so we're going to go with it. Generally speaking the operational levels for the busiest 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:52.720 is between us, Fort Worth, Meacham and McKinney. We all do about the same thing. We're in different 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.160 locations but flight training up or down any particular month will push somebody up for the 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:02.800 busiest for that month etc etc. But since the state agreed with me that we were the busiest we're going 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:09.840 to go ahead and keep using that. What's pretty exciting for us right now is this has 150 operations 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:17.840 per year. We blew that out of the water this year. We were almost 177,000 operations. So mainly 00:10:18.640 --> 00:10:23.440 increased traffic not only from training so when we got the second runway people that weren't 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:29.680 willing to come use our airport because of one runway their safety concerns with larger aircraft 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:35.280 and smaller aircraft. Having the secondary runway has been enticed not only our flight school that's 00:10:35.280 --> 00:10:41.200 based at the airport to increase their their presence but also other aircraft are coming from 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.880 different airports and training at our facility as well. So let's see I started about five and a half 00:10:46.880 --> 00:10:54.080 years ago. We were at 127,000 operations when I got here. So in five years we've seen about a 40% 00:10:54.080 --> 00:11:00.080 increase in operations. I would expect depending upon the economy that we would probably see a 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:06.800 little more growth in operations at the at the airfield. What we're hoping to see is an increase 00:11:06.800 --> 00:11:13.520 in corporate activity. The training activity is great we need more pilots but those those folks 00:11:13.520 --> 00:11:19.360 don't buy a lot of gas which is which are secondary revenue sources for the airport. So having 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:25.120 corporate airplanes fly particularly transient which means going to and from our airport somewhere 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:30.400 else will enhance not only the presence of the airport but in business activity at the at the 00:11:30.400 --> 00:11:36.080 city. Yes sir. Back on the runways so 7,000 feet is there any corporate jet that can't get in the 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:43.920 dent now or what what can we have? We can accommodate pretty much any existing corporate 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:52.560 aircraft in the fleet. We actually have 737 it comes periodically DC-9s so 7,000 feet is sufficient. 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:59.280 Now if it's 100 degrees in the summer they're fully loaded they're in a Gulfstream stage 650 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:06.560 maybe not be able to fully load with fuel or passengers they'll have to adjust for that. 00:12:06.560 --> 00:12:14.720 Thank you. We are the fourth busiest contract tower. So contract tower different from an FAA tower. So 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:22.080 FAA tower like McKinney excuse me like Meacham and like Dallas Fort Worth and Dallas Lovefield 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:27.760 those are operated built and operated by the FAA. Most of the smaller airports have what's called 00:12:27.760 --> 00:12:34.080 contract towers where the the sponsor the municipality builds those facilities and then 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:38.880 the FAA pays their contractors to go work in it. It actually is about 00:12:38.880 --> 00:12:48.800 20 percent of the cost of operating a FAA tower so it's a lot cheaper. So for smaller airports it 00:12:48.800 --> 00:12:55.680 it's turned out to be a fantastic program. I believe there's nearly 300 of those towers in 00:12:55.680 --> 00:13:03.120 the program one of which is ours and we are number four across the country. The ones that are busier 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:10.240 really have a little bit better weather than we do. Arizona and Florida those are the two busiest ones 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:16.800 and they do a tremendous amount of flight training at those facilities. I always like this one I 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:20.880 think we're a little higher now the December numbers aren't into the FAA system to update that 00:13:20.880 --> 00:13:28.480 number but we're number 89 in the country overall all airports is busiest. When I moved here I moved 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:32.560 here from Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh was number 90 so I thought well this is an upgrade so this is 00:13:32.560 --> 00:13:40.640 one step at a time one at a time. So this will be of interest to all of you folks and I'm sure that 00:13:40.640 --> 00:13:47.600 you may have seen some of this information when it came out. TxDOT does a economic impact study for 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:53.520 all the airports of the state and this was what they gleaned from that when they did ours in 2018 00:13:53.520 --> 00:13:59.840 obviously these numbers are different now. We've been encouraging TxDOT to create a web-based system 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:04.720 where we can actually change parameters and get new numbers on the fly. Some other states have done 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:12.000 that so we're interested in getting as new of information as we can. 2018 data doesn't really 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:19.840 tell us much today unfortunately but 1,400 jobs so that's jobs at the airport and that's jobs 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:26.480 that support the airport so could be jobs at rental car could be jobs at hotels etc etc office 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:33.280 supply companies so that's all that's all across the board not just at the airport. 45 million 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:37.760 dollars in payroll and you know 150 million dollars in goods and services and I'm sure 00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:43.440 these numbers have been enhanced just with activity that's going on. You can see in some 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:49.760 of the pictures the types of airplanes we have corporate jets etc. We do have a number of service 00:14:49.760 --> 00:14:58.000 providers so this has changed since November when I was here. We have two fixed base operators fixed 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:04.000 base operator is the ones they're kind of like the concierge of the of the airport they provide 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:09.840 fueling they arrange for catering they arrange for hotel rental cars etc so they're kind of the 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:15.120 concierge. They are a private business they lease property from us they they provide all the services 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:24.400 for us. US Jet Center was just purchased by Shelter Aviation which is a private company that operates 00:15:24.400 --> 00:15:31.840 15 FBOs across the country mainly in Florida so they bought they bought their facility out and 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:38.640 they now have a presence they did their official opening December 7th I think it was when we did 00:15:38.640 --> 00:15:46.240 the official ribbon cutting mayor was there for that event and we're excited about their presence 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:53.600 they have a history of being the number one FBO in the country over the last four years so it brings 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:58.160 a lot of professionalism and a lot of contacts that would be helpful for attracting those business 00:15:58.160 --> 00:16:05.360 customers to our facility as well. US Trinity Aviation they are our other FBO so we have two 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:11.680 at the moment and then US Aviation Academy US Jet Center US Aviation Academy we're owned by the same 00:16:11.680 --> 00:16:19.440 company the Aviation Academy stayed so they are leasing now from their new landlord and stayed 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:25.440 and they probably have nearly 200 airplanes just to do their flight training their biggest problem 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.520 is they don't have enough mechanics to keep the airplanes checked they have to do a check every 00:16:29.520 --> 00:16:35.680 hundred hours so their their struggle is not that they don't have enough people that want to fly 00:16:35.680 --> 00:16:40.640 it's making sure that the airplanes have been checked off so they can fly. Met Trans as I 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:45.840 mentioned earlier exciting news with them it just we went to council last night and was approved on 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:52.000 consent they've opted for their second parcel next to their development and then we'll be building 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:58.560 another facility there that will house their fixed wing training program so they do their helicopter 00:16:58.560 --> 00:17:02.320 training program they'd be doing their fixed wing training program and additional helicopter 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.960 flight training devices there so we're excited about that taking place as well and then as I 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:13.920 mentioned earlier a number of other businesses that are at the facility. Development opportunities 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:22.560 this is this is on the east side of the airport so give you a perspective the terminal building 00:17:22.560 --> 00:17:27.440 is right off the picture here so here's airport road coming right down here here's the terminal 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:33.440 area of the tower you can see right there so this is where most of our remaining property is on the 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:42.640 east side if it's in the green it's available if it's in red it's already part of leasehold and 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:47.200 these are right of first refusal so this is the parcel that Met Trans is going to build on 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:52.080 so here's their existing facility right here and they have this in their leases right of first 00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:59.040 refusal when they decide to move on so they'll be building on that site. We do have applications 00:17:59.040 --> 00:18:05.440 and development going to start on site 10 and 11 so those will probably be moving forward here in 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:12.880 the next several months as soon as we get some design criteria from that and then with shelter 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:19.520 coming in they've already expressed interest not only do they run FBOs but they do hanger development 00:18:19.520 --> 00:18:24.080 across the country so they're interested in expanding our hanger presence because 00:18:24.080 --> 00:18:26.960 we don't have any places to put all those corporate jets that are going to come 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:31.920 right there's no more room so they're very interested in in developing some of these parcels 00:18:32.560 --> 00:18:42.640 and maybe expanding on some of their old leasehold. So this is a significant piece to the future of 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:48.880 the airport is Luke 288 and I know Luke 288 has probably been talked about for a couple decades 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:57.360 I would imagine it never fails it's always that way right. Our excitement with this is that's 00:18:57.360 --> 00:19:04.560 what's going to allow us to develop this parcel here which is aviation and then as I mentioned we 00:19:04.560 --> 00:19:10.880 own this parcel right here that the free world will be coming through that'll allow the airport 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:16.640 not only to have additional aviation resources on that side but it'll also allow us to diversify 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:24.480 have non-aviation related revenue if say class a office space restaurant whatever the case may be 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:29.680 could be on airport property and we could glean additional revenues that we're not seeing now. 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:39.120 Unfortunately it's not there yet I don't know when it will be there yet I know TechSoc's in 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:45.200 the process of doing all their acquisition of the right away so if that's taking place now I'm 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:52.640 guessing we're still five plus years out to see that happen and I'll be gracious with five years. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:20:00.000 The key for our success is if we could get right here's Jim Crystal if we could get the north 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:06.000 northbound access road built first which I know there's conversations with TechSoc to build that 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:11.440 piece that'll open us up with development opportunities when that starts right now 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:19.520 which is very different property in between the current we own this and we own this parcel right 00:20:19.520 --> 00:20:26.560 here so it'll split that parcel some of that's floodplain you know obviously some issues there 00:20:26.560 --> 00:20:32.320 I'm sure we'll work with parks and do something exciting over there for the can't be developed but 00:20:32.320 --> 00:20:39.600 obviously the future of our airport is is really getting this this access to that side because 00:20:39.600 --> 00:20:45.600 that can expand our development opportunities as you know Cole and Hunter Ranch will be all through 00:20:46.560 --> 00:20:53.920 here south of the airport we're hopeful that that will draw additional folks that need corporate 00:20:53.920 --> 00:21:02.080 travel that need class a office space etc etc I say this and I'll hope I don't offend anybody 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:07.040 but I've said this ever since I got here frozen peas don't fly on airplanes so we have a lot of 00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:13.200 development around the industrial park which is great you know I'm sure it's fantastic for the city 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:19.440 but that doesn't put people on airplanes we need corporate presence in order to enhance our our 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:27.760 airport activity so we do work closely with Wayne and his staff on people that are interested in 00:21:27.760 --> 00:21:33.680 bringing warehousing etc and then if there's an aviation component how we can how we can help with 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:45.680 that this this picture here is from the airport master plan that was completed 15 2015 I believe 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:53.600 it was 2013 data so what this shows is what was proposed to happen in the in that different time 00:21:53.600 --> 00:22:00.080 frames right it's a 20-year plan this was to show what would be proposed in in different sections 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:06.640 of that plan as you can see this piece right here is that parallel runway which is already 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:11.520 constructed so some of these things are done some of these things have already been foregone 00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:18.000 because the property was used for for a different type of development versus t hangers etc the fire 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:24.800 station I believe was shown to be right over here the fire station actually is currently under 00:22:24.800 --> 00:22:29.440 construction right next to the terminal building because it was a better location for access not 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:38.080 only for airport but also for the firefighters to respond to the industrial area etc so the exciting 00:22:38.080 --> 00:22:45.520 thing about about this picture some of this stuff is done and we've convinced the fa and tech stock 00:22:45.520 --> 00:22:52.080 to do another update to our master plan and that's what we're going to be starting here shortly as I 00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:56.400 mentioned the fire station there's a picture a rendering of what the fire station will look like 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.880 if you've been out to the airport before here's the terminal building right here towers just off 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:06.880 the picture so we kind of created it to kind of look like it all fit in at the same time period 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:12.240 so we didn't have something that looked a little older or something a little newer a few facade 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.120 changes will be done to the terminal building to help it match so that project fencing is up they'll 00:23:17.120 --> 00:23:23.920 start moving dirt here probably in the next week and that project's likely going to take about 16 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:32.240 months to finish barring any additional supply chain issues that obviously we faced for a long 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:37.920 time this is the fire truck that was it was purchased it's probably been a little over a 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:43.840 year ago now that that came in so we already have the fire truck that one will be stationed 00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:49.520 here along with two other trucks the other two trucks obviously will respond to other incidents 00:23:49.520 --> 00:23:56.400 within their range the master plan as I mentioned that will likely go to council for a contract for 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:06.160 our consultant to in march and then that project will take 18 months that project will look at all 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:12.560 opportunities available to the city for our airport so not just general aviation not just corporate 00:24:12.560 --> 00:24:17.920 flight training but they will be looking at similar to what mckinney did is there a necessity to have 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:26.400 passenger service is there is a necessity to have cargo activity obviously alliances is pretty much 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:35.040 full at this point so that will be looked at and that process the master plan is a pretty 00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:41.520 strange straightforward process but we're asking our planning firm to kind of ask the questions 00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:47.280 about what we could be and then allow us to go to the council and say these are these are directions 00:24:47.280 --> 00:24:52.320 which which exit we want to take who do we want to be over the next 20 years and then we'll develop 00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:57.440 the rest of the plan accordingly so that could mean runway pavement strength increases could be 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:04.880 runway length could be you know different facilities etc etc that that that plan will help us get there 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:10.880 the next project which we were working with the fa and texas on that went to council last night as 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:19.440 well to finish the design is a nearly 20 million dollar runway reconstruction project so our primary 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:26.880 runway hasn't been touched in decade or more so there's major cracks there's some subsurface 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:33.360 issues some of which we've repaired as we kind of log just so happened the acting administrator 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:38.560 from the fa happened to show up out at the airport and i gave him a tour and allowed him to stick his 00:25:38.560 --> 00:25:43.840 hand down into the runway into the crack and the next thing i know the fa's number one project for 00:25:43.840 --> 00:25:49.440 the region happens to be our 20 million dollar project so we got we got lucky that he came and 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:55.760 visited with his staff so that project's going to probably move forward with design here very quickly 00:25:55.760 --> 00:26:01.680 with construction happening at the end of this year through part of next year our biggest concern 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:07.200 is is as you can imagine if we're that busy we got to close this runway how long it's going to be 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:13.600 closed it's not uncommon for engineers and to say well you need to be closed for three or four months 00:26:13.600 --> 00:26:20.160 and three or four months closure for an airport doesn't really work well right as you can imagine 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:26.640 so we've indicated to them hey we know walmart got their runway reconstructed completely similar 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:31.920 length as ours in two weeks so i think you guys need to go back and figure out how we can do it 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:37.280 better i'll give you 30 days that's how much time i'll give you so that's where we're working towards 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:42.080 now they got to finish the design figure out how we can get there but anything we can do to minimize 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:46.800 the downtime for our primary runway for our for our businesses that are located there and then our 00:26:46.800 --> 00:26:54.960 customers that are coming in as our primary goal there we go now i'll open it up with any questions 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:59.920 that you might have nothing's off off the limits councilmember davis and if anyone else has a 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:05.040 question just raise your hand i'll make notes and we'll go down the line go ahead uh talking about 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:09.600 the fire department can you tell us a little bit about the economic impact that will have and kind 00:27:09.600 --> 00:27:15.600 of obviously more fire fire stations the better uh better emergency response and all that kind of 00:27:15.600 --> 00:27:21.360 stuff for that part of town um but having it at the airport why is that so important it's a great 00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:31.840 question um mainly uh large corporate operators um will actually call especially international 00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:36.880 customers and we've had some international customers come they come from england they'll 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.880 land to clear customs someplace else and then they'll come to us for whatever reason they're 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.520 doing business and they'll ask those questions quite often from international travelers if you have 00:27:47.120 --> 00:27:52.800 arf is what it's called aircraft rescue and firefighting on the airport while we do the 00:27:52.800 --> 00:27:59.040 truck is there there's the uh the firefighters respond from either station three which is by 00:27:59.040 --> 00:28:05.680 ut or station seven which is down off of vintage they respond get in the truck and then then they're 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:12.640 there um so what the significant is is sometimes those operators have sops in their own operation 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.360 of their aircraft they won't go to an airport that doesn't have on-site are especially if they're 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:27.440 carrying passengers right um so i think it will make a big difference in future decisions by 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:34.240 businesses wanting to be located or operate to and from is because we will have we will have on-site 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:40.320 fire response so in order in order to handle larger airplanes and things like that you have 00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:46.000 we've discussed this many times before it's part 139 which is a safety certification from the 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:51.040 airport we operate that way since i've been here but we just don't have a certificate because we 00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:57.120 don't have a need to have one that requires firefighters to respond to the middle of the 00:28:57.120 --> 00:29:03.920 runway within three minutes well obviously now that's very difficult to do is to get somebody 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.760 from station three or seven over get in the truck and get the apparatus out to the middle of the 00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:19.600 runway obviously being on the airport we'll be able to meet that yes oh councilmember davis and 00:29:19.600 --> 00:29:26.160 mr corey yes i heard the news today that uh most of the major airports shut down because of uh 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:33.360 system problems how does it affect our airport with that national system problem and did it 00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:40.800 affect our airport today yes so that was the note of system which um they changed the name of it so 00:29:40.800 --> 00:29:48.400 it was the notice to airmen is what the official name was everybody that has a safety issue 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:56.000 piece of pavements closed etc etc reports that to the fa that thing is available to all pilots that 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.560 are going to and from those airports that system in about 1800 zulu last night so give or take 00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:13.040 24 hours ago um went down um which then pilots can't get the safety information that they may 00:30:13.040 --> 00:30:18.240 need so throughout the night i had emails throughout the night because i'm on that system 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:23.760 um that it was broken at some point in time the fa decided that they were going to do a ground 00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:30.960 stop for all commercial airlines and i think it actually expanded to all ifr which is basically 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:37.680 corporate and uh commercial airlines so they did a ground stop because the pilots couldn't get the 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.400 safety information where they were going let's say a piece of navigation of equipment was 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.480 non-operational they wouldn't know that so they'd be trying to tune in while they're flying and they 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:53.760 can't get it you know that kind of stuff so um for the airlines major impact major impact for us 00:30:53.760 --> 00:30:56.960 yeah we did see some corporate airplanes that were sitting on the ground waiting to leave 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:01.360 because they they were have to wait till the ground stop was over flight training and those 00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:06.400 types of things were unaffected so we still had airplanes operating but we had a few corporate 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:12.400 airplanes i could tell that were sitting there uh apu's running indoors closed going hmm what 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.400 are we going to get out of here um so yeah they they did lift that uh before this meeting started 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:24.800 so um hopefully that won't have any future impact on us at least today the airlines i'm sure 00:31:24.800 --> 00:31:29.520 especially unfortunately southwest will probably struggle through it because the way their system 00:31:29.520 --> 00:31:34.400 works as we found out recently with some of the things that they struggled with it'll have an 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:40.480 impact on their operation was there any kind of dollar negative was there any kind of dollar 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:49.200 negative effect for our airport you know it has an impact on business operators right um but it's 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:55.520 back operational so you know i'm sure the fa is going to be doing a full-blown investigation to 00:31:55.520 --> 00:32:00.720 try to figure out how they can have that never happen again um we'll see what happens but it is 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.600 an important system that we we rely on as an airport operator to tell pilots when there's a 00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:10.320 piece of pavement closed or there's a situation the navigational facility doesn't work whatever 00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:13.120 it's down for maintenance so it's important that it does work 00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:22.560 council member days can you talk a little bit you mentioned the master plan and the master plan 00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:28.880 process and there will be a point in that process where you kind of stop and set the vision kind of 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:33.680 pick a i think you said pick an offer pick an exit or pick a direction can you tell us a little 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:38.800 bit about what some of those directions might be knowing that we've still got a whole planning 00:32:38.800 --> 00:32:43.520 process to go through but what are we talking about what are some different things that we could do 00:32:43.520 --> 00:32:51.600 if we're already really performing at this top tier and pretty busy sure um so it's it's pretty 00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:56.720 much the character of the airport so we're a general aviation airport we don't have scheduled 00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:02.800 airline service we don't have large cargo operators like alliance we have small cargo 00:33:02.800 --> 00:33:09.040 operators and occasional deliveries for peterville etc because we can handle certain size airplanes 00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:15.360 so that's who we are that's who this airport's been for its existence right unless it was when 00:33:15.360 --> 00:33:22.560 it was a military um training facility so that's one direction we continue to be general aviation 00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:27.920 we continue to expand for corporate business purposes private flyers etc the other one is 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:34.320 like mckinney's doing current commercial service do we think that commercial service would be 00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:40.320 warranted in this area of the metroplex right so we'd have to go through very similar things that 00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:48.720 that mckinney has already gone through over the last several years so is the area the metroplex 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:57.600 have demand large enough that another facility would be warranted right then we could venture 00:33:57.600 --> 00:34:03.360 down that path right building a terminal building on the other side with the freeway etc and then 00:34:03.360 --> 00:34:10.960 second to that different than what we are would be larger cargo operation something similar if 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:17.920 you will to what alliance is doing we can be who we are not a lot of changes other than you know 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.040 some additional infrastructure taxiways connectors stuff to get people from the runways to the new 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:27.760 facilities if you start talking passenger service then you need a new terminal building you need all 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:34.320 of that infrastructure and i think mckinney is considering floating a pretty large huge um 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:41.360 bond to do that i i heard numbers of 400 million i believe the construction for the terminal 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:48.400 building and to get them started is 200 million um to give them four gates and have some operations 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:52.320 to do that cargo obviously is a whole different animal because you need 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:59.600 large warehouses that are connected either airside connected so they would be on airport property 00:34:59.600 --> 00:35:06.800 where the aircraft in the earth and the facility is a joint versus just in the industrial park 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:12.000 because you have to get it from the airplane to the storage facility etc etc so there'll be some 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:19.280 logistics with that but those are really the three off-ramps right could there be a combination of 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:24.800 all of those it's impossible there could be a combination of those when you when you take 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:32.080 one of those it impacts the others right so if you decide you want to have passenger service then 00:35:32.080 --> 00:35:37.040 that'll likely have an impact on decisions for the general aviation facilities you may see operators 00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:41.360 decide they don't want to operate at our airport anymore flight schools may decide they would like 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:46.800 to go someplace less congested with large airplanes etc etc so all those things will have to take 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:55.120 into consideration normally when you do an airport master plan you don't make that pause you just go 00:35:55.120 --> 00:36:01.520 they they come back with here's the plan to accommodate everything we can think of that 00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:07.920 that makes sense for this this region i believe it's important for us to kind of make sure 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:14.320 that the council and the citizens understand here's our options and what makes sense for us 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:20.160 is the city not just the airport but for the city of what we need and what would be supported and 00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:28.000 then make the appropriate capital choices right could be runway length could be increased pavement 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:33.360 strength currently in order to view passenger service we could do passenger service with smaller 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:39.200 airplanes right now today we could probably figure out a way to make that happen but if you're going 00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:46.400 to use you know aircraft bigger than 737s like a320s things like that for cargo or passenger 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:53.600 service our runway is generally not strengthened enough to handle that size airplane runway length 00:36:53.600 --> 00:36:58.960 is debatable you know we have seven thousand some argue we need eight for certain types of aircraft 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:05.760 operations some say ten you know all of those things can be done it'll take a pretty good chunk 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:12.160 of money because we've got to cross drainage areas we may have to relocate roadways etc etc so 00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:22.400 that will have major impacts on whatever direction we get yes for our help with executive assistant to 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:32.080 jill jester uh question along those lines do commercial airport department do uh like like 00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:39.920 what mckinney's done does that make money do those does it does it is it is it a a service or is it a 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.120 moneymaker right is it is going to catch recapture those costs or is it a convenience quote unquote 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:51.440 cost great question mayor and and the general answer is depending upon the size of the airport 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:56.000 right so if you take mckinney they're going to get started they're going to start off as the lowest 00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:03.360 level commercial service facility so there's non-hub small medium being dallas lovefield 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:09.120 and large being dfw right those are kind of the sizes so you're going to start off small 00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:15.040 generally when you're in the non-hub maybe even the small you started you probably aren't making 00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:22.160 much money probably costing you there's a lot of investment up front to get it and then it may come 00:38:22.160 --> 00:38:29.760 as the service expands you get additional airlines etc etc but to start no it will be more of a 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:38.560 service to the region than it would be as a economic impact to their bottom line got and 00:38:38.560 --> 00:38:43.680 follow up to that so councilmember davis and i were at alliance and talking to h ross brod jr 00:38:43.680 --> 00:38:50.480 obviously wildly successful built that from the ground up uh and and he seems and so i trust his 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:58.240 insight to say that uh there's an opportunity for us to get into that market and just because of 00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:04.240 where we're located and obviously he has a dog in the hunt because he has 3000 acres near but i i 00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:10.320 trust his his vision i mean they created it from scratch that that uh that industrial side of things 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.880 that freight side of things but looking at the passenger side of things i think it from a rail 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:20.720 standpoint from a why would someone from lewisville come to denton standpoint and driving people to 00:39:20.720 --> 00:39:27.760 denton uh and not having denton citizens have to drive to lovefield etc i think it makes a lot of 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:33.120 sense and so i look forward to the study coming back and my ask is just that we we focus on what 00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:38.640 we can be outstanding and so there's obviously a lot of talk about drones right and so maybe if we 00:39:38.640 --> 00:39:44.640 specialize in that i just want us to be uh uniquely specialized in an area like the flight school's 00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:51.600 done well med transit's done well and if we can somehow be a hub quote unquote or a a source for 00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:57.360 drone as uh services as that takes off and we begin to build infrastructure around that i think 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.720 that's just most important that we specialize in something outside of just convenience but but my 00:40:02.720 --> 00:40:07.600 other ask would be my question would be is there anything that prevents us i forget the name of the 00:40:07.600 --> 00:40:15.840 the freight the the the airline but it's like jst jxt it's a smaller kind of is that is there 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.080 anything preventing us from reaching out to them and saying hey you can fly from here right now as 00:40:20.080 --> 00:40:26.000 and use them as a test case no we can reach out to whomever we want the issue would be what size 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:31.120 airplanes do they use and will our facilities accommodate so is the airplane too big way too 00:40:31.120 --> 00:40:39.200 much then obviously that's a challenge but um we could we can provide service with less than 30 00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:48.880 seats without having our part 139 safety certification so for example um unt and some of their opponents 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:56.320 have used our airport to move their sports teams not the football team because they use a an a320 00:40:56.320 --> 00:41:01.600 and they go out of alliance um because it's a very large airplane but some it is used currently 00:41:01.600 --> 00:41:08.160 today and we can help make that happen but no we can reach out to operators like that um and uh try 00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:13.600 to accommodate them again the the thing that we probably don't have to accommodate it immediately 00:41:13.600 --> 00:41:19.680 is a terminal facility that meets the demand of having that number of people at that location 00:41:19.680 --> 00:41:24.160 waiting to get on the airplane so that would be the one thing that we would have to do and most 00:41:24.160 --> 00:41:29.200 likely that's going to end up being on the other side of the airport right because we have the 00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:34.320 developable um developable property we have the opportunity from a clean slate to build what's 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:39.760 needed um rather than trying to retrofit something that doesn't quite meet the need doesn't say we 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:44.720 can't make that happen in a shorter term to allow it to happen but certainly we can we can talk to 00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:52.480 those folks got important just before i forget you mentioned drones typically referred to as uavs 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:59.920 that is part of the master plan study to find out if we can be a player in that if you will 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:09.280 charter to and from our facility maybe overdue lowfielder dfw business areas etc etc as being 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.400 done in the dallas area and i'll just close with this i mean i think it may be a worthy 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:20.640 field trip for this group to get so i went down to alliance at the service center gulf street does 00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:25.920 and so that phase one of it is there and i think it'd be a worthy field trip to just understand 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:31.360 the economic impact of partnering i mean there's people by they can't build them fast enough and 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.600 the entry level plane is 29 million dollars so a person that has 29 million dollars and a flight 00:42:37.600 --> 00:42:45.040 crew and a support staff on the plane has disposable income or that company does and so just the the 00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:49.840 dollars tighten again that's entry level i mean you you get up there and they're all customized 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:57.360 and just kind of understanding what that brings to our community in and out as they're getting 00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:05.520 things done is is pretty impactful and introduces a whole different business climate to to the city 00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:09.680 of denton and then when you talk about office space it makes that conversation easier because 00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:14.320 they're familiar at a different level so i mean i don't know what it would take to kind of get us 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:20.560 all on a bus to go down but i think it is pretty impactful and pretty impressive to see and that's 00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:25.040 just one of the makers i mean i'm sure there's a million but that just kind of is here in this 00:43:25.040 --> 00:43:31.120 area easy to get to and kind of gives a feel for what we could achieve if we could hit the right 00:43:31.120 --> 00:43:40.240 mix a gulf stream is is one of the top that's like the gold star brand out there and when they were 00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:47.120 looking to expand in the area we were certainly extremely interested having the developable 00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:52.720 property on the other side because they're a large general aviation corporate aircraft developer 00:43:52.720 --> 00:43:59.920 fit who we were at the time unfortunately and don't blame them of picking where they went because the 00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:06.160 facilities were natural for them to fit but that may be something you know if there's continued 00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:12.320 expansion either by them or from martier some of the other operators we were approached about 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:17.440 somebody who wanted to build brand new airplanes and come to our facility but i mean they're talking 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:25.840 airplanes that are probably can't fit in any other airport besides dfw and alliance at the moment 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.000 because they're so big that they're going to build it we just can't handle that type of airplane we 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:36.000 love to try right it's getting there it's going to be the challenges how do we how do we stack up the 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:42.080 funding grant funding etc to get us those facilities to have those and it's it's one of those 00:44:42.080 --> 00:44:48.560 build it before they come you know because sometimes you know the airline industry is is 00:44:48.560 --> 00:44:54.480 reactive they they want it now and they want to show up and start service when they want to start 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.800 service it's not usually the other way around where the communities hey we really want you to 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:03.200 be here they have to have a business model that works for them to come so that's that's the 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:08.960 challenge for passenger service cargo there's just lack of space in the metroplex right now 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:16.400 well i think maybe a trip to the airport would be beneficial not also i don't think we have time to 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:22.160 get into it today but i'd also like to talk about how creative the funding can be for all of these 00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:30.880 different needs development reconstruction all the above but i think that would be a nice deep dive 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:38.560 as well to see what role the city plays versus the state the ffa etc we have had a reception out 00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:45.440 there at economic development partnership board and our investors have been out there for a reception 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.960 which was really great we had some planes we got to look at but maybe something like that would be 00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:58.800 really helpful and increase awareness in the community so that if something like a bond at 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.560 some point comes forward we can assist in being a conduit to the community as far as what is really 00:46:04.560 --> 00:46:10.400 happening out there and what people are saying and i think we've hosted one of your meetings 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:17.040 in the past as well as well as well as that's of interest great well anything else before we let 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:23.440 mr greg go back to work and uh i gotta go to the celebration we're uh we're celebrating the 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:32.400 busiest year the airport so we have some food and cake so i promise to bring this taylor back 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:40.720 so no wine so i won't be gone okay just okay i suppose you could bring your own but i 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:48.880 well thank you so very much we really appreciate you and look forward to continuing our conversation 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:56.240 great thank you all right thank you thank you so much all right um we are closing in on noon so 00:46:56.240 --> 00:47:03.680 we're going to try to move past these next items of consideration as soon as possible um moving 00:47:03.680 --> 00:47:12.800 on to i'm is for consideration d edp 23-002 um receiver or hold a discussion and give staff 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:20.480 direction regarding the meeting dates and times for the calendar year 2023 so in uh your packet 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:30.160 and i believe on your tables in front of you we have two different alternate versions and one is 00:47:30.160 --> 00:47:38.880 a quarterly meeting calendar one is a monthly meeting calendar and uh we're having a presentation 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:51.600 on that or just we're talking about it right yes it was let me get yeah well um so i mean i think 00:47:51.600 --> 00:47:56.880 it's it's you know fair to say that we've had some issues with core in the past year and there have 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:05.120 also been instances where there's not necessarily something that we need to weigh in on um so this 00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:12.800 option is being presented to have a quarterly meeting set versus monthly um in my opinion i 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:19.120 think it would be best to continue to be flexible so long as all of the individual members are very 00:48:19.120 --> 00:48:25.280 good about responding to uh whether or not they're going to be present so that if we know there's not 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:31.760 going to be a quorum we can cancel ahead of time so that no one wastes time additionally if there's 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.320 nothing new to be voted on to be discussed and presented to council uh that we are just flexible 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.720 but you know my initial thought is that having these monthly meetings on hold for us will be 00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:51.360 easier to get everyone together in case in between those quarterly meetings we do have something that 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:58.160 comes up that we need that we want to weigh in on before it goes to council and um that we have that 00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:03.840 time that's set aside and we let everyone know as far in advance as possible whether those are going 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:11.440 to be needed uh but um wayne i don't know if you have further thoughts on the choice of calendars 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:18.640 going from quarterly to monthly and then after mr emerson we can open up the conversation to everyone 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:24.800 go ahead i would only say that we can always if we have a quarterly schedule we can always have 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:31.920 a special call meeting and we could hold those special call meetings on these dates i mean it's 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.240 always an option to do a special call meeting so that would be the only other thing i would 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:43.360 add to the conversation um erin do you have any thoughts or where's is dan here do you have any 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:51.040 um i think for sake of calendaring it's easier to maintain a holding on the calendar just because i 00:49:51.040 --> 00:49:55.840 know that we have so many different calendars and different professions in this room so 00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:01.680 i think it would be easier to hold the dates and then cancel if one is not available or there's no 00:50:01.680 --> 00:50:10.160 updates so let's open it up for a discussion i mean there's no right or wrong answer um i don't know 00:50:10.160 --> 00:50:19.200 how to turn that off apologize for the son of a gun dingy angel is getting in between so someone's 00:50:19.200 --> 00:50:26.640 opening a bottle at one um you know what i'm just gonna i'm just gonna slow it yes so i would just 00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:32.800 my comment would be what would work best for staff and from an organizational from a meeting 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:39.200 perspective if it works better for for you guys for for them to have a monthly set meeting and 00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:48.560 then we adjust uh cancel or reschedule for the next month then uh i mean i in my opinion we try 00:50:48.560 --> 00:50:54.800 to make it easy as possible for this body to respond you know when we have to we need to all right 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:04.080 i would say what makes it easy for staff is what makes it easy for the board because for us it just 00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:11.360 takes staff time preparing to have a board meeting and so we're we're more than happy we're here to 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:16.720 serve at the pleasure of the board so what makes it easy for y'all is actually what makes it easiest 00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:23.760 for us that's the best way to answer that no i would say monthly go ahead yeah i'd just say 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:29.360 monthly and then to your point if we're open and honest about if we can make or not make that that 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:36.960 kind of then you can count noses early and let everyone know we're not meeting but i do want to 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:44.160 stress that this only works if we are all being we're all good about communicating if we are not 00:51:44.160 --> 00:51:51.920 going to be able to make it if we have a conflict and we will also i think work together to also 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:56.320 make sure that we're not having a meeting if a meeting is not needed right i mean everyone's got 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:06.160 other things they uh have as priority as as well um however i i think there is a lot out there to 00:52:06.160 --> 00:52:17.200 talk about discuss learn about and advocate for uh that uh that we have not had the opportunity 00:52:17.200 --> 00:52:25.040 to touch on just yet so um anyways but those are my thoughts but yes i think to your point 00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:32.240 is maybe establishing some norms about what when do we decide we want to cancel when when do we 00:52:32.240 --> 00:52:38.720 want to decide someone's if we don't have rsvps are we we have that form so that we avoid situations 00:52:38.720 --> 00:52:44.880 like last time where you guys are all very busy professionals we show up and then we don't have 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:50.560 a meeting so i think maybe we could establish norms about when do we decide we want to call it 00:52:50.560 --> 00:52:57.440 that would be beneficial to staff as well is there anything in our charter that requires 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:05.920 in-person attendance is there an option of having especially i know we've had to do that several 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:14.400 times in the last couple of years of offering to arrive at forum webex or zoom option as well 00:53:15.120 --> 00:53:21.120 not that i'm aware of i'm not aware of any specific in-person requirement versus 00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:30.000 we are not having um the web or virtual meetings any longer we do need to meet in person and we do 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:36.720 need to have a forum which is one more than half of the appointed board members so that is the stated 00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:41.280 requirement and that's just all boards across the yeah it's an open 00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:51.280 state requirement that we have to have let's um let's go to the capital yes yeah we have a physical 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:59.440 in-person quorum um there's also a little bit of a technical limitation with where we meet because 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:05.600 when we're broadcasting they have to do a very different setup it looks the same to folks watching 00:54:05.600 --> 00:54:10.720 from home but it's technically a very different setup to getting them meeting out and how they 00:54:10.720 --> 00:54:16.400 report it because you're accommodating sometimes you see a presentation sometimes you see a split 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:23.600 screen of the room and the guy on zoom or 300 people on zoom whatever it is it's technically 00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:30.160 very difficult i don't know if they could accommodate here probably accommodate another location 00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:39.120 but similarly that would be if we decided to do in a meeting at the airport that broadcast 00:54:39.120 --> 00:54:45.360 would have to be considered how we can make that happen there or any other remote location i don't 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:52.160 think we can live stream from say the airport or the dist building when the city council meets with 00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:57.600 dist there or something like that that's all recorded and then broadcast later which is an option 00:54:57.600 --> 00:55:04.320 but uh i just i don't think that's necessarily just positive i'm just put it out there there's 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.360 also a technical limitation it just adds an additional consideration not not impossible 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:15.920 it's a different consideration um i like holding just for my own schedule i like holding the 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:22.720 the the date so i know so it's on the calendar and if it cancels goodie i get to be at my desk that 00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:32.320 hour um you really said it it just just means another meeting takes place another another 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:36.880 something another demanding place um but we do that it's been pretty successful some other city 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:42.080 origin commissions i think that they may not need to meet every month but they have a calendar and 00:55:42.080 --> 00:55:50.000 that helps get born there and then um it may be it may be helpful if we get down to there's an 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:55.600 agenda we have enough for a meeting there's enough meat on the bone to have the meeting but we're not 00:55:55.600 --> 00:56:00.640 hearing back from folks um i don't know what the current kind of staff protocol is for reaching out 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:05.200 but i'll work with funtree you know if there's some trouble getting a hold of somebody i'll 00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:09.680 i'll help get people calls and make sure they're going to be there and you're not going to forget 00:56:09.680 --> 00:56:14.560 as soon as you RSVP that kind of thing because it's time out of our day too we should open up one 00:56:14.560 --> 00:56:22.400 agree yes i just offer one other suggestion not too many the water but other boards i sit on and 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:28.640 boards that i manage tend to take off july and december so in the region i've noticed a lot of 00:56:28.640 --> 00:56:34.800 like 10 month boards or add one more challenge but if you know if we don't need if there's if 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:39.600 those are heavy travel months realize i work in academia not everybody does but it still 00:56:39.600 --> 00:56:46.160 tends to be true and so just one other thought that's a good thought and also just as we plan 00:56:46.160 --> 00:56:50.400 out the next year and what we're going to cover and you know sometimes we're not in control of 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:56.480 what's coming up for votes um as far as incentives and that's you know a big part of what we do but 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:02.720 um i think that's very fair to say here are two months that are good to try not to stack up and 00:57:02.720 --> 00:57:07.200 if they're going to be two that follow off these good months so all that information is helpful 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:15.200 additionally um i would encourage you to email me um and i will disseminate or if you have anything 00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:20.720 that you would like to hear more about or discussions that you would like to have um 00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:26.720 there's a lot going on a lot out there the reports that we get each time are so very 00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:35.840 insightful as far as the standard board and what's going on uh so there's there's there's plenty but 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:42.480 feel free to help us bring something to the top of the list if needed and um i thought these 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:47.440 introductions were going to be done for but we have a couple of new people that are here today 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:53.680 uh filling in for tina out not filling in but uh taking over the spot we do have another 00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:59.600 representative from peter bill which is one of our top taxpayers and uh would you mind just 00:57:59.600 --> 00:58:05.520 introducing yourself and telling us just a little bit about sure uh my name is todd wells um i'm 00:58:05.520 --> 00:58:13.760 director of manufacturing engineering for peter belt motors i've been in in denton since 1999 00:58:16.080 --> 00:58:22.480 and i've been an employee of pac heart for going on 24 years now so i've been 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:28.960 um with the same same company for the most part for then extending my career professional career 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:34.480 and just uh looking forward to the opportunity to serve the community here and getting engaged 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:41.040 and definitely the development of the local area so appreciate it real thrilled to have you here 00:58:41.040 --> 00:58:45.920 and look forward to hearing your perspective and know that we always want to be whatever one 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:51.120 has to say and then i understand we have a new you introduce yourself to us please 00:58:51.120 --> 00:58:56.720 i'm katilda and i'm the new specialist with the economic development team with the city 00:58:56.720 --> 00:59:02.960 great we're glad to have you here and look forward to working with you we also have one 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:10.880 yeah yes i'm lacy brother i am what's my name administrative assistant i am kind of the stuff 00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:18.160 one of the staff members for y'all um i grew up in sanger i just recently moved back to the area 00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:23.280 and i've been here for about a month now and i'm really enjoying it thank you and she's the one 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:32.160 who's been emailing you so you'll get your your calendar invitations from lacy meeting agendas 00:59:32.160 --> 00:59:37.200 will come from lacy and any other reminders and communications to the board will also come to lacy 00:59:37.200 --> 00:59:43.680 for us great well thank you we certainly appreciate it all right um so i i think the 00:59:43.680 --> 00:59:50.000 consensus is we're going to keep the holds for monthly but we're all going to uh be very good 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:56.000 about communicating when we're unable to attend and we're also going to be good about determining 00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:00.080 whether or not there's enough meat on the bone as you would say to have a meeting and use everyone's 01:00:00.080 --> 01:00:06.400 time wisely is there any direction to what we would consider meat on the bone for staff or 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:11.760 make staff determine that i'm curious well certainly if there's an incentive that's going 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:22.160 to be presented to council or if there are any changes to the funding or direction that is given 01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:28.000 the any reports that are going to be given to council we would like to also be a part of 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:37.840 your those um and then uh any speakers you know any outside speakers that are here uh to present 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:44.240 we definitely want to make sure that we've got a forum here for that um and i think the rest of 01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:54.560 that is pvd is that helpful yes okay okay great all right um so we are moving to um eat can we take 01:00:54.560 --> 01:01:02.160 yes we need to vote okay um so move thank you all those in favor please signify by saying aye 01:01:02.160 --> 01:01:06.960 opposed please signify by saying nay and the motion carries 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:16.160 moving to item eedp 22-076 receive a report pull the discussion and appointment reappoint numbers 01:01:16.160 --> 01:01:20.800 and an economic development partnership board representative to the downtown economic development 01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:26.640 committee in the past this was the economic this was the downtown task force um currently 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:33.120 mr davis is our representative there it's just you know we do have a specific tourist uh raising 01:01:33.120 --> 01:01:39.040 money and funding for the downtown area and so you know the downtown area has been a big economic 01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:46.240 driver uh and so there's a specific downtown task force to help maintain the communication inside 01:01:46.240 --> 01:01:54.160 and advocacy between the city and our citizens uh so i will let you take it from here see if i can 01:01:54.160 --> 01:02:11.040 make it a little larger so everyone can read it okay so what we're asking you to do today is to 01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:17.680 reappoint some members appoint a new member and also reappoint jesse davis as the chair 01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:23.680 from the economic development partnership um reappointed members would be peggie caps 01:02:23.680 --> 01:02:31.440 hank dickinson tracy wong reena malone and brock mcnight and hank dickinson has had a change of 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.320 employment he now works for the chamber and we'd like for him to hold the chair that represents 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:47.200 the chamber on the board and then we are also asking that we would like to appoint a new member 01:02:47.200 --> 01:02:57.600 to fill the term from alex pain alex has left the board and busy with other projects downtown so 01:02:57.600 --> 01:03:02.800 that's left a vacancy and we'd like to fill up position with jill herbs if you don't know jill 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:08.320 she's a co-owner of panhandle recording house it's just about a block over they've been in 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:15.280 downtown business and property owner for 25 years and they've expressed some interest in being more 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:21.040 involved in the community they're also um have joined the den masonry association and jill's 01:03:21.040 --> 01:03:27.280 actually sat in on a few of the downtown economic development committee meetings just to get a better 01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:32.720 feel for the committee and she feels like it'd be a great place for her to to get involved and and 01:03:32.720 --> 01:03:39.680 be part of the community so that if you have any questions i'm happy to to go through any of the 01:03:39.680 --> 01:03:47.120 the renomination three appointments or provide additional information uh thank you i'd like to 01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:53.760 ask councilmember davis's our representative there um if you're familiar with this potential new 01:03:53.760 --> 01:04:00.960 appointee and feel she would be a constructive member of the uh group i do i do and the really 01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.640 cool thing about this group is that um it was it was new to me when uh y'all appointed me to it 01:04:06.640 --> 01:04:13.040 and then there's some weird goals where i basically have to be the chair um which is fine i guess um 01:04:13.040 --> 01:04:19.280 but getting to know the group it still has that kind of task force feel which is which is neat 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:23.760 and it's a round table kind of different kinds of folks and i think she's gonna be a really addition 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.800 good addition to that kind of round table feel um you've got bankers you got guys that sell ice 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.360 cream you got all sorts of different people um in the room and it's really a good dynamic so 01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:38.080 i think she'll be a good addition thank you and any other comments on the reappointments 01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:44.640 i'm very happy with everybody's every service they're um only only changing one person that's 01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:50.000 somebody who is pretty clear that they needed to move on and do other things so um nothing it's 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:58.800 a good group all right any questions or discussion yes looking for a representative from unt 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:08.160 we have um we on this board we have um we do have the justice williams university 01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:15.200 we have not had anyone from ut and we did for some time which was hank so and then he kind of 01:05:15.200 --> 01:05:22.640 switched positions there um we do have that as one of our um potential you know positions to 01:05:22.640 --> 01:05:27.280 be filled so that would be up to the economic development partnership board if you would like 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:34.640 to open it up and add another member i believed that we are at max it's nine to thirteen in the 01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:44.720 durable um excuse me members so we have six we're right at our max right now at 13 um to add 01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:51.200 another membership member or not to appoint jill is addition you know that would be up to you also 01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:57.440 make that determination i was in no way promoting that i'm just asking because i didn't know what 01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:03.600 there was a if you needed help identifying someone appropriate from unity here at max and are happy 01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:11.440 please don't don't hear that i'm pushing that in any way i will mention that there are some 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:16.960 folks on the board obviously that that can tw but there's some folks on the board that have 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:22.160 connections obviously when when hank was a unt employee that was a really straightforward 01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:28.080 connection but lots of folks on the board that have unt connections and uh have people's phone 01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:33.680 numbers i totally agree i just wanted to make sure we were doing our part so yeah and jill 01:06:33.680 --> 01:06:45.200 herps is a unt proud of unt alumni i do know i think hank still is partial to unt well but it 01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:50.960 you know again it is one of the areas that is targeted um to consider and i think that in the 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.760 future it'd be nice to find a way to have that input uh but it sounds like the group right now 01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:05.200 is successful um but i think in the future let's definitely try to find a way and we do have five 01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:12.080 members that are they're on their final term so at the end of this this two-year session that would 01:07:12.080 --> 01:07:18.480 be a great time to you know look at the diversity on the board all right well at this time is there 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:24.240 a motion to accept uh the proposals for reappointments and the new appointment to the 01:07:24.240 --> 01:07:31.920 downtown economic development committee so moved okay all right it's been moved and seconded is 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:38.240 there any further discussion before a vote all right all those in favor please signify by saying 01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:44.640 aye aye all those opposed please signify by saying nay and the motion carries unanimously 01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:50.640 thank you very much all right thank you appreciate the presentation and all the information all right 01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:58.480 well at this point we are to f which are the staff reports um i do want to hear about the airport 01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:05.280 consensus updates and then we might uh fill in those last couple of items at our next 01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:11.280 meeting as we are running a little late thank you eric is Sullivan on the economic development 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:16.800 program administrator here at the city we received the staff received a request for information on 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.960 denton the city of dentons incentives as well as mckinney's incentives so i'm going to briefly go 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:27.520 over the two programs so the city of denton we adopted our incentive program in 2015 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:32.800 this board actually was included in the policies that you approved in may or were approved by 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:40.000 council in may and the basic considerations over the dent policy is expanding the tax base one 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:47.120 then another idea is to the job growth spurring the job growth of the development of course fuel 01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:53.280 sales and consumption so those are the the three considerations and then the minimum valuation for 01:08:53.280 --> 01:08:58.880 the program is one million in aircraft valuation and that can be combined in order to be eligible 01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:05.200 and then your backup you saw there was a short table that basically provides that the base 01:09:05.200 --> 01:09:13.040 operator can get up to 25 and then the owner can get up to 25 and then the operator and or operator 01:09:13.040 --> 01:09:18.000 because it could be the same entity um can get an additional five percent and that increases based on 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:24.880 valuation from a period of two to ten years so that is the dentons policy and then the city of 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:29.840 mckinney and mckinney's economic development corporation they also have airport related 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:37.120 programs their considerations involve the business personal property valuation of the aircraft itself 01:09:37.120 --> 01:09:42.400 they involve jobs the business the real property valuation of improvements so that would be a 01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:48.640 hangar or some type of office building or complex that would be at the airport and then finally they 01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:53.840 look at sustainability so those are the at the considerations they look at and the things that 01:09:53.840 --> 01:10:01.920 are eligible under their program are infrastructure relocation and training i'd be happy to entertain 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:06.640 questions business personal property was the big one on mckinney yeah that was the first one 01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.720 yeah it was business personal property and then and they have jobs they listed them separately 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:14.320 and then their real personal property and that was the example i gave the hangar or the office 01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:22.000 building and then they look at sustainable activities as well all of those emphasis sounds 01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:28.880 good it seems that maybe should be included in dentons as well next time it comes it's in our 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:35.360 policy to be approved in or the council approved in may i would make okay well thank you for the 01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:42.160 update and anything else before we adjourn we all get back to work or wherever we need to be 01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:43.920 any announcements 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:52.880 all right well welcome again uh tod we're thrilled to have you guys with us 01:10:52.880 --> 01:11:00.640 and uh look forward to the next time and uh we are adjourned thank you