WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.920 Okay, it is nine o'clock and we have a quorum for a call to order the City of Denton Public 00:00:09.920 --> 00:00:14.640 Utilities Board meeting for Monday, January 9th, 2023. 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.320 The first item is presentations from members of the public. 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.960 Does anyone wish to speak? 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:24.000 Okay, I see none. 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.640 We're going to change the agenda slightly. 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:30.920 We're going to hop into item A for items for individual consideration. 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:35.960 So the first item is to receive nominations and hold an election for the chair, vice chair, 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:37.040 and secretary. 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:38.720 Do we have any nominations? 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:42.600 Madam Chairman, I have a question. 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:43.600 Yes. 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.040 How long are the terms for the officers? 00:00:46.040 --> 00:00:47.040 One year. 00:00:47.040 --> 00:00:48.040 One year? 00:00:48.040 --> 00:00:49.040 Because every year we reelect. 00:00:49.040 --> 00:00:50.040 Okay. 00:00:50.040 --> 00:00:51.040 We didn't take care of that. 00:00:51.040 --> 00:00:52.040 I don't remember doing this last year. 00:00:52.040 --> 00:00:53.040 That's how it's like. 00:00:53.040 --> 00:00:54.040 It's a term. 00:00:54.040 --> 00:00:56.040 Didn't we just do this? 00:00:56.040 --> 00:00:59.720 We have not been taking care of that properly for many years. 00:00:59.720 --> 00:01:02.880 And I think we did it right last year, so we're going to continue. 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.680 And then the next item is the calendar. 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.280 We weren't approving the calendar, so now we're going to start approving the calendar. 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:09.280 Thank you. 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:10.280 So good question. 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:11.280 Okay. 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:12.280 Nominations. 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:17.000 Unless there's anything else, I propose we keep it the same for a year. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:18.000 I'll second that. 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:19.000 I second. 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:20.000 Yeah. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.000 Okay. 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:22.000 All in favor say aye. 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.000 Aye. 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.000 Thank you. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.720 Now we'll go back to the consent agenda. 00:01:26.720 --> 00:01:30.400 Does any board member wish to pull an item on the consent agenda? 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:31.400 Yes. 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:32.400 Item C. 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:33.400 Item C. 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:34.400 A. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.400 And Barbara said A. 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:38.400 Any others? 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:39.880 All right. 00:01:39.880 --> 00:01:46.160 So before we go into that, do we have a motion to approve Items B and D? 00:01:46.160 --> 00:01:47.160 So move. 00:01:47.160 --> 00:01:48.160 Second. 00:01:48.160 --> 00:01:49.160 Okay. 00:01:49.160 --> 00:01:50.160 All in favor say aye. 00:01:50.160 --> 00:01:51.160 Aye. 00:01:51.160 --> 00:01:53.340 Did you get who said that, Kim? 00:01:53.340 --> 00:01:55.320 It was Barbara and then Devin. 00:01:55.320 --> 00:01:56.320 Okay. 00:01:56.320 --> 00:01:58.280 We'll take Item A first. 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:01.280 Good morning. 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:08.160 Good morning, Madam Chair, board members, Krista Foster, customer service. 00:02:08.160 --> 00:02:11.320 And how can I help? 00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:22.080 I am aware of this program and know it really is quite helpful, but I will tell you that 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:29.440 in the summertime when it gets really hot and if a landlord is paying the utilities 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:36.880 and the tenant's supposed to be taking care of that and they don't, the landlord isn't 00:02:36.880 --> 00:02:41.560 allowed to turn the utilities off, they just have to keep paying. 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:44.320 So help me out with that. 00:02:44.320 --> 00:02:45.320 Sure. 00:02:45.320 --> 00:02:51.600 And when a customer is setting up service at a new location, we're going to recommend 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:57.200 for the protection of all the different parties that the person who's receiving the service 00:02:57.200 --> 00:03:00.560 is the person who signs for the service. 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:06.360 We know that some landlords prefer to keep those as a single bill, but if they're doing 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:13.000 that, they assume that risk of liability for creating an all bills paid situation. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:17.960 If the person who's residing there has services in their name and they're having trouble paying 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:22.460 their bills, that would make them eligible for programs such as these. 00:03:22.460 --> 00:03:27.200 So that's what we would always recommend because you cannot legally, and we can't allow them 00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:32.940 to turn off because the state of Texas does not allow utilities to be shut off in order 00:03:32.940 --> 00:03:35.360 to try to force an eviction. 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.280 They have to go through the legal process and get a judge's order. 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:40.280 Sure. 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:41.280 Okay. 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:42.280 Thank you very much. 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:51.440 I know that Interfaith Ministries does a really good job with this, and so I am very happy 00:03:51.440 --> 00:03:53.360 that we work with them. 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:57.720 I'm very proud to be able to have a program that will assist all these things like this. 00:03:57.720 --> 00:03:58.720 Thank you very much. 00:03:58.720 --> 00:03:59.720 You're very welcome. 00:03:59.720 --> 00:04:00.720 I move approval. 00:04:00.720 --> 00:04:01.720 Okay. 00:04:01.720 --> 00:04:05.040 Do we have a second? 00:04:05.040 --> 00:04:06.040 Ben seconds. 00:04:06.040 --> 00:04:07.560 All in favor say aye. 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:08.560 Aye. 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:09.560 Carried. 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:10.560 Item C. 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.880 I shall await our speaker's arrival. 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:18.560 Good morning, PUB Board. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.360 Terry Daunty, EASIS and GM at Denton and New Swatley. 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:28.640 My question is, this was a fabulous idea and unfortunately we didn't have it in place two 00:04:28.640 --> 00:04:30.000 years ago. 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:36.120 However, what I couldn't tell from the documentation we were provided is what the levels of coverage 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:42.160 are they're providing, and what would trigger the application of their covering of such 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.120 an outage. 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.960 Sure. 00:04:46.960 --> 00:04:52.840 These quotes that we receive are based upon Ford prices that are in existence at the time, 00:04:52.840 --> 00:05:01.680 so this particular quote is a little stale, and before we actually execute the insurance 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:06.840 binder, we'd get a refresh on it, hopefully we'd see the number go down, but the coverage 00:05:06.840 --> 00:05:10.560 limits are still being negotiated. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:19.600 Normally be 15 to 18 million dollars of total coverage for this premium, and the conditions 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.720 upon which we could draw upon it are very simple. 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:29.680 If there's an outage for any reason, whether it's fuel supply or mechanical failure, the 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:37.680 first of the 12 units, so each unit's rated at 18.75 megawatts, that's a deductible amount, 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:43.960 so we have to have an outage that would be in excess of 18.75 in order to actually file 00:05:43.960 --> 00:05:45.640 a claim. 00:05:45.640 --> 00:05:51.240 So in the event of mechanical failure, how many units at the deck would that represent? 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:56.440 Well, let's just say we had a transmission issue, we couldn't get any power out of the 00:05:56.440 --> 00:05:59.840 plant, and it would cover all but one. 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:00.960 Very good. 00:06:00.960 --> 00:06:01.960 Thank you. 00:06:01.960 --> 00:06:02.960 Yeah. 00:06:02.960 --> 00:06:03.960 Thank you. 00:06:03.960 --> 00:06:04.960 Thank you. 00:06:04.960 --> 00:06:05.960 Any other questions? 00:06:05.960 --> 00:06:06.960 No, ma'am. 00:06:06.960 --> 00:06:09.000 Do we have a motion to approve item C? 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:10.000 So moved. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.000 Okay. 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.000 And a second? 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.000 Second. 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:14.400 I don't know. 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:15.400 Somebody said it. 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:16.400 Okay. 00:06:16.400 --> 00:06:18.040 All in favor say aye. 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:19.040 Aye. 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:20.040 Okay. 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:21.040 That carries. 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:25.880 The next item is receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding 00:06:25.880 --> 00:06:29.760 the 2023 schedule. 00:06:29.760 --> 00:06:33.040 We had a schedule that looks just fine. 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:38.640 It's every second and fourth Monday, except for November and December. 00:06:38.640 --> 00:06:42.680 Do we have a motion to approve the schedule? 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:43.960 So moved. 00:06:43.960 --> 00:06:44.960 Devin moved. 00:06:44.960 --> 00:06:45.960 Second? 00:06:45.960 --> 00:06:46.960 Ben, seconds? 00:06:46.960 --> 00:06:48.960 All in favor say aye. 00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:49.960 Aye. 00:06:49.960 --> 00:06:52.520 Motion carries. 00:06:52.520 --> 00:07:01.040 After approval of December 2nd, 2022 minutes, have we reviewed the minutes? 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.280 Do we have a motion to approve the December 12th minutes? 00:07:04.280 --> 00:07:05.280 Second. 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:06.280 Okay. 00:07:06.280 --> 00:07:07.280 Who seconded? 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:08.280 You moved. 00:07:08.280 --> 00:07:09.280 Ben? 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:10.280 Lee seconded. 00:07:10.280 --> 00:07:11.280 All in favor say aye. 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:12.280 Aye. 00:07:12.280 --> 00:07:13.280 Motion carries. 00:07:13.280 --> 00:07:20.240 Item D. I know Billy needs to recuse himself from this item. 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:38.560 Good morning PUB board members. 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:39.560 My name is Scott Fetig. 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.520 I'm a project manager with Capital Projects, and I'm here today for the consideration 00:07:43.520 --> 00:07:50.000 of a construction contract award for Neighborhood 7A project. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:54.400 This project is part of the 2019 bonding program, and a little bit of the overview for this 00:07:54.400 --> 00:08:00.240 project, we will be reconstructing roadways, we'll be doing some sidewalk connectivity, 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.040 along with wastewater and water upgrades as well. 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:09.000 Some of the streets to be included in this project are Bernard, Leslie, Wisteria, and 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.920 Camellia. 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:18.640 So we advertise this project as a CSP, or competitive sealed proposal, once the evaluations 00:08:18.640 --> 00:08:25.360 were completed, Mountain Cascade came out number one with 92.8 points and a total of 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:30.080 just over 7.6 million for cost. 00:08:30.080 --> 00:08:32.640 So overview of the schedule. 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:37.920 We started design and completed it in August of 2022, and of course we're here today for 00:08:37.920 --> 00:08:41.440 consideration from PUB. 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.580 And if so approved, we'll move forward with council on January 24th. 00:08:46.580 --> 00:08:51.800 With approval there, we anticipate a notice to proceed quarter one of 2023. 00:08:51.800 --> 00:09:00.280 And then we're estimating a final completion of quarter one 2024. 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:05.520 And with that, we recommend consideration approval for a construction contract for Neighborhood 00:09:05.520 --> 00:09:12.800 7A in the not to exceed amount of just over 7.6 million, which does include the 5% project 00:09:12.800 --> 00:09:15.320 contingency. 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.440 And with that, I'll open it up for any questions. 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:18.920 Yes, I have a question. 00:09:18.920 --> 00:09:24.400 These streets do not seem to be related to one another, and it seemed a little bit far 00:09:24.400 --> 00:09:26.840 removed from one another, at least on the map that you presented. 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.400 I wonder if you could go back to that? 00:09:30.400 --> 00:09:33.840 Yes, sir. 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:38.320 I'm just curious, it doesn't have anything to do with the value of the contract or, you 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:43.480 know, the process you're on to go get approval, but I'm just curious why these particular 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.680 streets, which don't seem to be particularly connected to one another, are all included 00:09:47.680 --> 00:09:49.000 in this particular package. 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:50.000 Right. 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:56.440 And so when they look at these, they're looking at OCMI report, of course, which is this OCMI, 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:00.040 which is the index, the street condition, the way that the condition that the street 00:10:00.040 --> 00:10:01.040 is in. 00:10:01.040 --> 00:10:04.720 So they gauge that they take samples, they look at the street, the subgrade, what the 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:09.000 condition looks like, and they value it that way and decide whether or not they want to 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.480 put it on the bond to be reconstructed. 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.400 And so they try to group it in areas so we stay in a closer area when we're doing a project. 00:10:16.400 --> 00:10:20.360 And these, all these streets kind of fell in an area that's relatively close, that all 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.400 require them to be reconstructed. 00:10:22.400 --> 00:10:27.480 Okay, so these streets were strictly selected based on their evaluated condition over some 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:28.480 period of time. 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.280 Was that by the designer or by previous? 00:10:31.280 --> 00:10:32.600 By previous. 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:37.600 So they work with the streets department in their group, they send out a contracted company 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.560 that goes out and takes these samples, evaluates them, and gets that back to the street and 00:10:41.560 --> 00:10:45.520 then they combine a list and provide that to us to which streets need to be reconstructed. 00:10:45.520 --> 00:10:46.520 Okay. 00:10:46.520 --> 00:10:47.520 Thank you. 00:10:47.520 --> 00:10:48.520 You're welcome. 00:10:48.520 --> 00:10:49.520 Devin? 00:10:49.520 --> 00:10:50.520 Yes, sir. 00:10:50.520 --> 00:10:51.520 Hello. 00:10:51.520 --> 00:10:52.520 I have two questions. 00:10:52.520 --> 00:10:58.800 First, the project that was recently approved near Malone, I believe, was construction manager 00:10:58.800 --> 00:11:01.960 at risk as opposed to the competitive seal bid. 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:06.640 Is there a reason why one was selected for that neighborhood and a different one was selected 00:11:06.640 --> 00:11:07.640 for this neighborhood? 00:11:07.640 --> 00:11:15.080 I may get Trevor to come up here and answer that one for me. 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:16.080 Good morning, everybody. 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.660 Trevor Crane, Director of Capital Projects. 00:11:18.660 --> 00:11:24.760 So we evaluate each of those projects really based on complexity, how big they are. 00:11:24.760 --> 00:11:28.080 Really what it comes down to is really the complexity of the project. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:32.400 So the CMAR is usually a little more expensive on the front end, but you get some more benefits 00:11:32.400 --> 00:11:39.840 on the back end, and so we really evaluate those and determine if using that CMAR process 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.280 is really going to be worth that money on the front end. 00:11:42.280 --> 00:11:46.760 If it's really kind of a straightforward process, then we don't want to kind of spend that money 00:11:46.760 --> 00:11:48.480 on the front end if we don't necessarily need it. 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.880 So we evaluate all these projects before we get to that point to determine which one's 00:11:52.880 --> 00:11:56.920 going to be the best one going forward, whether it's a CSP or that CMAR. 00:11:56.920 --> 00:11:57.920 Okay. 00:11:57.920 --> 00:12:02.120 And so in this case, this is a more straightforward project, like I guess the wastewater and 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:03.880 water are under the roads is somewhere. 00:12:03.880 --> 00:12:04.880 Correct, yeah. 00:12:04.880 --> 00:12:09.360 And so we look at a whole lot of different things, so complexity of what the work is, 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:16.240 kind of coordination with different projects that are in the area, coordination with stakeholders, 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:17.480 really a lot of things that go in it. 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:22.920 So we felt this was a perfect project for a competitive sale proposal instead of the 00:12:22.920 --> 00:12:23.920 CMAR. 00:12:23.920 --> 00:12:26.960 And so going forward, we might see both depending on each neighborhood. 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:27.960 You will. 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:28.960 Yeah, you'll definitely see some. 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:34.040 We do have one coming up that's, I think it's 60 million south, or we have two projects 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:38.640 that we're going to bundle together because they're very similar work, a lot of coordination, 00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:40.000 and you will see CMAR. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.640 So you'll see both of those, both of those different styles coming forward. 00:12:43.640 --> 00:12:44.640 Okay. 00:12:44.640 --> 00:12:45.640 Thank you. 00:12:45.640 --> 00:12:46.640 Yeah, no problem. 00:12:46.640 --> 00:12:51.000 And my other question was regarding the project scope mentioned, sidewalk connectivity. 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:52.220 Yes, sir. 00:12:52.220 --> 00:12:55.000 But it doesn't indicate kind of wear or scale. 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.000 Yeah, I can elaborate on it a little bit. 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.980 The major connectivity that we're going to see is on Bernard Street. 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:07.480 So right now from Parvin there at Edenia Park, it moves north there on the west side of Bernard. 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.520 We're going to connect that all the way up to Acme, or that there's a piece of it there 00:13:11.520 --> 00:13:16.720 that just went anew on the east side of Bernard, and we're going to make that a complete connectivity 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.480 all the way down the park to give them a little safer area for people walking between the park 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:21.480 and that area. 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:24.400 And is that a one side of the street? 00:13:24.400 --> 00:13:30.760 Okay, so everything will be on the west side of Bernard from Parvin all the way up to Acme. 00:13:30.760 --> 00:13:31.760 Okay. 00:13:31.760 --> 00:13:32.760 Thank you. 00:13:32.760 --> 00:13:33.760 You're welcome. 00:13:33.760 --> 00:13:34.760 Other questions? 00:13:34.760 --> 00:13:35.760 All right. 00:13:35.760 --> 00:13:38.380 Do we have a motion to approve? 00:13:38.380 --> 00:13:39.380 So move. 00:13:39.380 --> 00:13:40.380 Devin moves. 00:13:40.380 --> 00:13:41.380 Do we have second? 00:13:41.380 --> 00:13:42.380 Lee seconds. 00:13:42.380 --> 00:13:43.380 All in favor say aye. 00:13:43.380 --> 00:13:44.380 Aye. 00:13:44.380 --> 00:13:58.440 And I'll go find Billy, hang on. 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:04.520 The next item is to consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the construction 00:14:04.520 --> 00:14:10.800 of Hickory Creek Interceptor 3 project. 00:14:10.800 --> 00:14:15.400 Good morning, bird members. 00:14:15.400 --> 00:14:16.400 My name is Tracy Beck. 00:14:16.400 --> 00:14:20.920 I'm a project manager with Capital Projects, and today I'd like to discuss a little bit 00:14:20.920 --> 00:14:24.160 about the Hickory Creek Interceptor Phase 3 with you. 00:14:24.160 --> 00:14:28.040 Excuse me, ma'am, could you speak up a little bit? 00:14:28.040 --> 00:14:29.040 I sure can. 00:14:29.040 --> 00:14:30.040 Thank you. 00:14:30.040 --> 00:14:31.040 I'll speak in a little bit. 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:34.480 Hickory Creek Interceptor Phase 3 is Phase 3. 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:41.240 It is continuation of the Phase 1 and 2 on the south end near I-35W, extends approximately 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.080 9,700 feet, about 1.8 miles to the north. 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:50.120 The project is going to be a 30-inch replacement of an existing 12-inch main. 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.640 The purpose is because the 12-inch is undersized and a little bit aging. 00:14:54.640 --> 00:14:56.760 The project was designed in-house. 00:14:56.760 --> 00:15:00.240 We went out for competitive sealed proposals for this project. 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:06.600 The recipients were approximately seven of our bidders, and Wilson Contracting was the 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:12.640 lowest on scoring, and they were very close on the lowest of overall price as well. 00:15:12.640 --> 00:15:17.240 The scoring was 88.2 out of 100. 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:22.440 The final dollar amount that they presented was 5.7 million and some change, and that 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.920 includes the 5% contingency. 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:30.480 The project's been underway for some years, and we're finally getting it to construction. 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:31.760 We have completed the design. 00:15:31.760 --> 00:15:33.520 We've completed the background work. 00:15:33.520 --> 00:15:37.280 Today is awarding as well as going to council at the end of the month, and then we look 00:15:37.280 --> 00:15:40.200 to doing notice of proceed in the first quarter of this year. 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.920 The project's approximately 13 months long, so we look for having that completed about 00:15:44.920 --> 00:15:49.720 this time next year, say second quarter of 2024. 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:55.280 With that, I'm recommending the award to Wilson Contracting for a bid amount of 5.5 million 00:15:55.280 --> 00:15:56.840 and some change. 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.040 That includes the contingency of 5%. 00:16:00.040 --> 00:16:01.040 Any questions? 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:02.040 Questions? 00:16:02.040 --> 00:16:03.040 Yes. 00:16:03.040 --> 00:16:04.040 Go ahead, Lee. 00:16:04.040 --> 00:16:08.560 Why did you decide to do this particular project in-house on design? 00:16:08.560 --> 00:16:14.240 This was actually designed prior to when I took over, and it's just a legacy project 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:15.240 that we're moving out. 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.280 At some point, I believe that when we look at our staff load, we do like using our internal 00:16:19.280 --> 00:16:20.280 staff. 00:16:20.280 --> 00:16:22.920 There's benefits to using internal staff as well. 00:16:22.920 --> 00:16:25.960 Oh, certainly, I don't have a problem with it. 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.280 I was just curious. 00:16:27.280 --> 00:16:31.040 We approved so many design and engineering evaluation contracts. 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:34.680 It was just interesting this one was designed in-house, so it's a curiosity question. 00:16:34.680 --> 00:16:37.760 Trevor Crane, Director of Capital Projects. 00:16:37.760 --> 00:16:42.040 As these projects come forward from the different stakeholders, we have a process set up where 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:46.960 myself and our Deputy City Engineer will evaluate those projects. 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:51.480 He runs our in-house engineering department, so depending on what that project looks like, 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.040 the complexity, whether they have the workload availability, or anything like that, we evaluate 00:16:56.040 --> 00:17:01.440 those projects and determine, one, we'll make a recommendation to the stakeholder, "Hey, 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:04.520 we think this is going to be better for an external project." 00:17:04.520 --> 00:17:09.480 We look at the schedule that they need, the pricing that is available, funding, those 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:14.640 types of things, and whether his team has the availability to do it in-house or not. 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.760 We evaluate all those projects as they come through from the stakeholders to determine 00:17:18.760 --> 00:17:19.760 the best path forward. 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:23.920 Oh, is it the fact that you are basically improving existing infrastructure, make it 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:26.160 a little easier lift in the in-house town? 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.480 Yeah, this project is really just that 30-inch line. 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.000 Our engineering team has a lot of experience in designing those types of things. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:43.360 They designed some of the previous ones before, and they had the availability to be able to 00:17:43.360 --> 00:17:48.960 design it rather quickly, so it just made sense to allow them to do that in-house. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.960 Thank you. 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:50.960 Yes, sir? 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.760 I have just one quick, I see we had seven bidders. 00:17:53.760 --> 00:17:59.640 There was a time when we would not be able to get people to bid, so are things finally 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:01.960 loosening up a little bit, where we're getting more ... 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:09.480 Yeah, I would say we are seeing a lot of different contractors coming in to bid. 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:15.140 This one was, since it was just mainly that one type of work, so you'll see when we bundle 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:20.640 a lot of these projects and we have a lot of different types of work in those, then 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:24.920 sometimes we don't get as many because they'll have to sub some of those things out. 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.440 I would say just the complexity of this work is one of the things that allowed it to have 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:29.440 that many. 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:34.940 I would also say that just the changes that have been made in the last couple of years 00:18:34.940 --> 00:18:39.760 with the city of Denton, I think a lot of contractors are wanting to get in town and 00:18:39.760 --> 00:18:43.400 do a lot of work with us just because of some of the things that we've done, the way we 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:47.000 deliver projects, and just been a lot easier to work with. 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:48.000 Oh, good. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.000 That's good for the citizens. 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.000 Definitely, definitely. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.000 Yeah. 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.000 All right. 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.000 Any other questions? 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.000 All right. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.720 Do we have a motion to approve item E? 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:56.720 Yes. 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:57.720 Ben moved. 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.720 Lee seconded. 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:00.720 All in favor, say aye. 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:01.720 Aye. 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:02.720 Aye. 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:03.720 Thank you very much. 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:04.720 Management reports. 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:11.800 Madam Chair, members of the POB, just to go over future agenda items, obviously we had 00:19:11.800 --> 00:19:14.440 the officer elections, appreciate that. 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.480 There was a couple of items listed for today that did not make today's agenda. 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:24.000 We are working to get those back to you likely for the next meeting or early February, but 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:29.440 on the Lyft station and also the budget and rates for electric, it'll be more of a financial 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.440 update. 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:35.440 And then on the 23rd, we still have scheduled the Greensense program update. 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.120 We are kind of working through that still. 00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:42.320 We're still planning to go back to the sustainability committee as a follow up. 00:19:42.320 --> 00:19:46.320 Our plan is to bring kind of the two presentations that we planned for them and single presentation 00:19:46.320 --> 00:19:47.320 to you. 00:19:47.320 --> 00:19:53.240 At the end of the day, we're going to be seeking a recommendation from both the POB and sustainability 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:59.300 committee on the Greensense program to go to the council, probably likely in May now 00:19:59.300 --> 00:20:01.440 or after May. 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:05.440 So we'll have plenty of time if there's a need for us to come back and do additional 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.840 discussions with you, we'll have time to do that. 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:09.440 But those are the items on the agenda. 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.720 Obviously, what's not listed on here is the various budgets for you. 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:18.880 We'll be listing those out for the next meeting, but we have kick started some of those processes 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.360 already internally for all the utilities. 00:20:21.360 --> 00:20:26.000 So that's on the future agendas and the new business, we still have the first two items 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.520 that are related to the Greensense program. 00:20:27.520 --> 00:20:31.360 We hope to be able to address those with you through that process. 00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:37.400 And there was a request at the last meeting for an update on the ERCOT lawsuit. 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.400 And we're arguing that the day in closed session after we do this meeting, we'll be meeting 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:43.920 downstairs with the city attorney's office. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:47.400 So with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions or there's something else that you'd 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.400 like to see on a future agenda. 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:52.640 Please let us know. 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:54.120 Okay. 00:20:54.120 --> 00:20:55.720 That brings us to concluding items. 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:02.560 Does any board member wish to add a future agenda item or have anything to say? 00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:04.440 Seeing none. 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:05.440 Okay. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:12.400 And we'll go into the closed meeting and legal gave me a nice little thing that I can say. 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:18.680 The Public Utilities Board will now at 921 a.m. convene into a closed meeting to deliberate 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.080 the closed meeting item set forth on the agenda, which include the following. 00:21:23.080 --> 00:21:30.160 APUB 23008, deliberations regarding certain public power utilities competitive matters 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:37.360 under Texas government code section 551.086, consultation with attorneys under U.S. Texas 00:21:37.360 --> 00:21:41.400 government code section 551.071.