Nov 07, 2022 Zoning Board of Adjustment on 2022-11-07 5:30 PM (Special Called Meeting)

Okay, I guess we now should begin recording, call the meeting to order at 539, I guess it is, and we'll be here, calling the meeting to order at 539, and our first order of business is to pledge to the US and the Texas flags, which we have to put them on screen or something, or imagine them, or what do we do? Flags in your hearts. Yeah, let's just do it. Okay. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state, under God, one and indivisible. Thank you. Items for consideration, item number 2A on our agenda is to consider approval of the Zoning Board of Adjustment Commission minutes for the June 29th, 2022 meeting. I'll entertain a motion for discussion if you prefer before the motion, but probably a motion and a second in that discussion would be most efficient. Thank you. Moved by Senator Redwine. I mean, not Senator, Commissioner Redwine. Commissioner Redwine. Tomorrow, maybe. Tomorrow is the whole thing, right? So Commissioner Redwine, is there a second? I'll second. Thank you. Second by Commissioner Fischer. Any discussion of the meetings, of the minutes from the last meeting? So, I didn't, was that everything that we got during the meeting, those four attachments, and I felt like there, we didn't get all that during the meeting, but perhaps it's more of a question, I guess, than anything. Those were the only attachments, are you, is that Mr.? Well, I feel like we had a bunch more beforehand. Is that, was that all there? Something said earlier? Like the backup? Yeah, the backup. That wasn't all inclusive of that, was it? That was just what we got during the meeting. Okay, correct, that was the only thing. That's not standard for how we process meetings. Oh yes, the backup from this meeting itself. All in favor of approving the minutes? Any opposed? Any abstentions? Thank you very much. That carries. Item 2B is to hold a discussion and consider approval of the 2023 Zoning Board of Adjustment meeting calendar, which we have been generously provided in tiny, tiny print. I can entertain, I would like to entertain a motion for approving the calendar, again, motion and a second, and then discussion. Anybody would like to move? The red one again, this time I got it right. And second. I can second that. Excellent. And any discussion of the calendar, do we see any dates that need to be changed? We have always discussed fairly often the November and December times in particular. The DBA is usually the last Monday of the month, so we just want to look carefully at, yeah, we have it in November. We might want to move that earlier. I can't remember what we moved. We moved it before. We moved December before about a week ago. Well, didn't we split the difference last, I think that's what we found this time, we split, essentially tried to create one for the two months, and if we had to do one, we would. Right, and we've been on every, that's a different question. So for November right now we have on the 27th, that's after Thanksgiving holiday weekend, do we want to see earlier in the month? A week earlier perhaps? The 20th. I believe UNT is closed that week next year because they're closing off Thanksgiving week, so that might not be as convenient for me as the 27th. But if other people feel strongly about that Monday after the weekend on Thanksgiving? I'm generally fine with that last week. It sounds like either way we might have some difficulty getting caught. Yeah, and again, as you know, we are here currently in the month of November, so sometimes it's difficult. I propose, I mean, I recommend, I suggest that we keep it on the 27th. And change it when the time comes? Yeah, when the time comes. That sounds good. Yeah, and then let's see, this we have this meeting in January. Okay, any other changes anybody see? Is there an Easter issue anywhere? Can we say January 30th is good? Yeah, for the next upcoming month? Each month, can we have the chairs say each month? Sure, January 30th, February 27th, March 27th, April 24th, May 22nd, and that's a move up which I think is maybe nice. It's probably the last week in school. Yeah, and that's also probably going to, those of us involved with UNT, you may not, you may have trouble getting a quorum on that. Okay. Just a heads up, because we're done and we're gone. And then also June 6th, and then we have July 31st, and then August 28th, September 25th. October 30th, November 27th, December 19th, 18th, sorry, December 18th, and then January looks like it doesn't have anything yet because it's a new year. Should we approve this calendar and then discuss it as it goes by? All in favor? That sounds good. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Okay. All right, we got the calendar for next year. Hopefully it means some meetings. And, and, so that's good. Item number 3A on our agenda is to receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan. This is the big item. Yes, thank you, nice chair. I really wanted to take the opportunity to provide you all with a summary of the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan. Hopefully most of you either participated or know about the comprehensive plan itself. I'm just going to do a very high level overview of the Denton plan 2040. It is our comprehensive plan for the City of Denton. And if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. But again, just a high level overview and it ought to be important to share with this group since we haven't met as often as we would like. So this is one of those opportunities. So the comprehensive plan, as you see here, is made up of major components. Always start off with the vision, right? The community vision statement is the first thing that if you're looking at the comprehensive plan, you want to make sure you view that. Following that, because most of all the other components reflect back to the community vision. It has elements. There are, I believe, nine elements in total. And within each element, there are goals, policies and actions in which the city uses in their decision making decisions in terms of budget or just criteria or whatever it may be. It always goes back to those goals, policies and actions. From there, there are a number of maps that we highlight because they represent the vision again of the city in terms of the preferred growth concept map. That is where we want to see growth happen in the city and I have an exhibit that shows that. A future land use map, where growth is going to happen is where the growth concept map is. What type of land use is where the future land use map expresses or shows where that is. We also have land use designations within the future land use map because obviously the land use, you have to be able to explain what each land use is and that's where the designations come in. The preferred land preservation plan, which is sort of the opposite of development. So any areas of the city that we feel we should preserve, that's also shown in a map form in the comprehensive plan. We have focus area concepts or focus area map where there are certain areas of the city that we want to focus our attention in terms of planning or building up or developing. That is also included. Obviously that's an important thing that's because one of the things that the city is currently in the process of is creating area plans, a little bit more refined areas of the city that we want to build. This more direct and more focused vision for that area that is where those are identified and the city council uses that and making their decision as to which ones we should do first, second, third, and so they've got their priorities. And then last, the action plan. The action plan is just that it's the plan that shows what we need to do next in what time frame and who should be responsible. And also if there is any budgetary reasons or budgetary needs, it all is outlined in the action plan. And then last, I'll make sure I'll go over some of the update process that we went through. It took about a year and a half to get processed. So that is what we went through, like I said, a couple years ago when we first started. So the conference plan. So you're asking, well, what is the conference plan? So really it's a very high level overarching document. It sets the community's priorities and identifies, you know, what, again, what our goals are. It addresses the challenges, you know, we tried to update the plan five to seven years, every five to seven years, because things change. Right. So there's there's large developments that come in or there's a certain, you know, issue that we're dealing with. You know, a decade ago, it was gas wells, you know, currently when we're looking at this conference plan, it was those large developments that were that are coming in. So we wanted to make sure that we address those in the comprehensive plan. It also promotes reinvestment, identifies areas of improvement. Overall, just making sure that the residents and the people within the city's quality of life is up to standards. It fits at the very this is sort of like a flip, a flip compared to what you probably have seen. It's the base of what we make our decisions from. So when you guys are also considering cases, make sure that you understand the conference plan is sort of the vision document. So that is really the base from there. You've got zoning, area plans and site plans. From that, you go up to, you know, utilities and infrastructure, you know, decisions, building plans, and then ultimately certificate of occupancies or buildings or where businesses are occupying the building or a multifamily is being occupied. So from from very, very conceptual to very high level, all the way to certificate of occupancy status. This is the vision statement. It's made up of a number of pages. It's actually four pages long, but it deals with the four strategic directions that you see there. The character of Denton, what we would like to see Denton be in 20 years. 20 years is because that is the planning, you know, timeline for where we would like to plan ahead. So 20 years is that number 15 to 20 years talks about the people, the institutions and the government, the strength of the economy. Right. That's one big thing about the conference plan. It sets in motion the economic process and goals. But it also talks about sound growth. We want to make sure that our growth is, you know, it matches our budget, it matches our ability to provide those services. So that's another important part of the vision statement. And again, I mentioned here goals, policies and actions are reflected from those vision statements that are part of the conference plan. Here are the elements. And before I go here, just a quick questions. I don't want to just continue. If there's a question, please raise your hand or let me know. This is a pretty informal presentation. If you have any questions, please let me know. Yeah, I guess we'll find the, I guess the comprehensive plan. Is that was that already emailed to us? It was. It is not. It's available on our website. I can also send a link to the board if that's something that you would like to see. Yeah, good questions are coming out. I'm curious to know how similar or different the 2040 is from the 2030. So, so the 2040 comprehensive plan is really more of, I wouldn't say a complete rewrite. It's just an update where we, we have a lot of still a lot of good stuff in the 20. What was in 2030 plan was basically carried over to the 2040. Our growth, preferred growth is pretty much the same. Our future land use changed a bit. So we, we tweaked it a little bit where we first had certain business innovation. We kind of tear that down a little bit to be more of an employment center versus, you know, business innovation. So really minor tweaks, nothing major, I would say. But really what it did was update the accomplishments that we have accomplished. It identified areas that we needed to address, such as larger developments that we didn't contemplate back in 2015 when we first started that 2030 plan. And then also, it added some new, you know, goals and policies that were missing. So, overall, I don't think it was a big change, but there were some tweaks that needed to be needed to happen. So the elements that you see here are, like I mentioned earlier, there are actually the total 10, but really we don't count number one because it's really the plan framework. How it basically describes what the process was in updating the plan and what's covered in the plan. We do have the preferred growth concept in element one. But as you can see, I'm not going to read the whole list here, but number two is the land use. That's a big part of the comprehensive plan. The economic vitality, as we mentioned earlier, that's another important topic. Community character and urban design, that covers what we see out in the public, in the public realm. It talks about placemaking, arts and culture, and historic preservation. It's also where the future, I'm sorry, the focus area concept map is located. We also have parks, conservation and environment. That's another important one, as you know, we here again want to make sure that we protect those areas and encourage those areas as much as we can. Mobility, as we continue to grow in the city. Sorry, I'm just going to ask for the land use. Is that a mixture of both private and public land and how the city is going to be using it? Because obviously the parks are separate. Correct. So the land use is everything within the city, public and private. So yes, and the land use, great question. And the land use, and we'll share the map that shows what that area is and what it encompasses. But yeah, the parks and conservation environment is such a unique topic, because there's so much of the city that we have that we currently maintain and want to make sure that we provide. That amenity to our citizens. So that's something that also has a lot of goals and policies specifically just for that. Mobility, another important thing, as we continue to grow as a city, we want to make sure that our mobility is in line with what we are proposing or what we're recommending. Of course, we don't want traffic, right? So if we plan the city appropriately, then hopefully that would be mitigated through some of the pre-planning that we have as part of mobility. Housing and neighborhood, obviously we want to make sure that we have adequate housing for our citizens, talking about neighborhood as well, what should be provided in those neighborhoods. Community health, safety and services, another important thing that we want to make sure we provide, not only for the normal police and fire, but there are also other services that we can provide as well. Infrastructure and utility kind of ties back to mobility. Infrastructure and utilities are your water, wastewater, electric, stormwater, all of those are covered under the infrastructure utility. And then number 10 is really the implementation element where all of the goals and policies and actions are kind of put all gathered together and it gives you an idea of how things are supposed to be done in the next five to seven years. As you can see, the action plan is part of that element as well as some measuring progress methods. Goals and policies, this is just a snapshot. There's approximately 253 actions that you see there. There's a lot to cover, right, because we cover such a wide range of topics. So in total, you can see we've got 35 goals, 123 policies, and then the action plan covers approximately 253 actions, and each of those actions is given a timeline as well as the responsibility of how those actions are going to be accomplished. So the first map that we have here is the preferred growth scenario map. This area that you see that is colored is where the city, when I say the city, the city of Denton as a whole wants to see development occur. You see that most of the area is around major intersections, but the downtown has, the downtown area is actually a big area of where growth should occur, but we also recognize that there are areas of growth as well along the periphery of the city. The red doesn't really signify land use, it's just more intensity, so the darker red is where there's higher intensity as far as growth. Yellow is lower intensity, and the purple that you see there is also the employment areas of the city that we would like to see grow. You see that west of I-35 is where most of the employment hubs are in terms of offices and/or industrial, as well as warehouses, that sort of thing. And then, as you can see, there's Robeson Ranch, that's to the south, as well as Robeson Ranch. I think most of you don't know where Robeson Ranch is, but we also have those major developments that are coming into the city. We have Hunter Ranch in Cole, Cole Ranch is just above it, and then also Hills of Denton, which is another one to the north. These are master plan communities. Each of these master plan communities has approximately 3,500 acres. In Cole and Hunter alone, there's approximately 10,000 units, so that's a lot of development in that particular area. Now, they are being phased, however, as this part of the city grows, you can imagine this is ultimately going to create a big jump in our growth. That's just one part of the city. The other part of the city we're also seeing growth happening is north of Duluth, so around this area is also seeing tremendous growth, and then ultimately, as well as to the eastern side of the city, we're also seeing growth happening here as well. For the most part, the southern part of the city, around just south of I-35, it's sort of filled in. There are still pockets of growth, but for the most part, the areas are going to be to the west, to the north, and to the east. Someone asked me one time, "Where's development happening?" I'm like, "It's happening everywhere." If you get an opportunity on our website, there's a map that's called the Active Projects Map, and you can also kind of get an idea of where that development is happening. When you look at that map, it's basically all of the city, and it's not just one area. It's happening everywhere. Rob? Yes, sir? Sorry. I see it looks like the loop has expanded around. What's the time frame on that? That is actually going to be happening now. When I first moved here, when I first got here, it was a textile roadway. It's a state highway. When we asked them, "So when is this happening?" This was 17 years ago. They said, "It's going to happen 10 years from now." I'm like, "Okay." Every 10 years, it's another 10 years. However, I can tell you that Textile is in the process of purchasing property now along the northern segment of this loop. So this is what Commissioner Kerwein is talking about, this loop right here. So this is happening now on the north side. They're purchasing property, and there's schematics of what it's going to be, where it's going to be aligned. The southern segment, which is over here, is part of the coal hunter development. So when this comes in, this is going to be developed as part of that phase one. And then ultimately, when you have these two segments built, the middle segment is probably going to come right after, and that is just west of the airport. So when this comes in, we can imagine that the city's growth to the west is going to expand more than what it's already expanding to. I believe that the northern part, and generally here, is going to be more of an industrial, more employment. Coal hunter, they have their own master plan, like I said earlier, mainly single family, multi-family, with open space. But that's going to generate so much growth for the city, and it's going to be a balance between, like I said earlier, employment, residential, as well as commercial in that part of the city. Ron, do you have an expected early occupancy date for Coal Ranch, or what's your expectation? We actually have received plats, and if you're familiar with plats, basically it's where the land is subdivided and put into a piece of paper where it shows where the roads are going to go, it shows where the infrastructure is going to go. So to your question, Commissioner Fisher, it's going to happen soon. I don't have the exact timeframe, but once someone starts planning a property, you can imagine six months a year when you'll start to see infrastructure going in, and then immediately after that, the building permits will come after that. So I would say within two years, we'll probably see some houses on the ground. They, being the Coal Hunter development, have been meeting with our city staff almost every week because there's so much coordination that's happening, and it's happening, and their first phase is along this area up here. So you're going to see this area, you're going to see more of them. Now, I'm also seeing a plat coming in for here as well. So sort of following our preferred growth map, so they're planning as well on the Hunter side as well. Again, single family is what they're planning, but soon after that, once those rooftops come in, there will be other uses that will follow as well. So, good question. Is there any un-preferred growth happening? Well, did you remember that comment? Well, I'll make sure to bring it up because there's a map that's coming up. Before we get there, though, I wanted to share with you the future land use map. And, too, Commissioner Farr, you're asking me where in the city is basically anything that's colored is where, you know, we want to make sure that growth is managed, but also what type of land uses are proposed are shown on that map. And I apologize, it's sort of hard to see, but if you get the opportunity to look at this map, you'll see that there are colors and what each colors represent. I can sort of read it, agriculture, rural areas, low residential, until you get to the more higher intensity. Ultimately, you can see here, this area right here is where the airport is. A lot is purple is industrial. The light blue is more light industrial, more like employment land uses. The yellow is single family, so you can see single family covers much of the area outside the loop. The lighter pink or this color pink here is more of your high or mixed use density. This is where the Golden Triangle Mall is and all the other uses that are surrounding the mall. You also see Razor Ranch over here, which is another high density commercial development area. But then ultimately in between you have the commercial mix use, which is, you know, just community mix use that is, and then you have UNT, TW, and all the blues are public entities. So this is the landfill, then UNT. You also have TW, but then you also have the airport as well. So that's what those blue polygons represent. The big brown ones are the master plan communities. So we decided to keep them this color because there's so much going on within those master plan communities, it was really hard to represent it. Now we do have maps for those if one wanted to see them, but those are large master plan communities. Like I said, they're brought 3,500 acres in size and so all in all they're very, that's the size of some cities. So that's a big size. So you can see how, if you remember the map earlier, this is where growth, we prefer, doesn't mean that that's where it's going to happen. But the city would prefer to be in this location. And then you can kind of see what kind of languages would fall under there. But again, our master plan communities are probably going to generate as much of the population growth as we expect in the next five to seven years. In those communities, I would assume they're, I hope there's some additional parks. Yes, sir. We just can't, you can't get all the color. Right, right, yes. I see a lot of park on the east that looks like they're along the lake. I think that's a park, I can't tell. Some of these, yes. Some of these smaller ones are parks. And not only parks but schools. And I believe in one of the 2030 or 2040 there was a goal of setting a park within 10 minute walk of every citizen. Some of those are private, some of those, but some of them, most of them are cities. Yeah, that actually is covered in the Conference of Plan, but it's also covered in the Parks Recreation and Trails Master Plan as well. It's a 10 minute walk basically from anywhere in the city. So what the Parks Department has done is identified basically rings, 10 minute rings from every park we currently have. And where there are gaps, they're looking to fill those in with additional open spaces. So the hope is that the city will be covered with these, you know, polygons that are covered, that represent a 10 minute walk from each of these parks. And is there, sorry, is there any major, like so this is the future land use map. If you were looking at it today, are there any major call outs on like what's super different on this map as opposed to what you see today? So they are, there are some, but I would say that these are so high level that they cover such a wide range of like specific uses. And of course, there are different uses on the ground that don't necessarily fit within that future land use, but they're so small or so minor that the overall general area fits the future land use. Now, we continue to work on that. So if there are applications for zoning changes or proposals for new development, we have to make sure that we refer back to the Comprehensive Plan of this future land use map to make sure that it is consistent. So we try our best to be as close as we can, but there are existing uses, I can't say 100%, but there are other uses that are on the ground today that don't necessarily fit the future land use, but not much. Everything that's striped is in the ETJ? Everything that's striped is currently in the ETJ. Great, yes, great question. So the city limits, I think, is covered in the black boundaries, and then everything that's striped is ETJ. And we have areas of the city, and I don't know if you all know ETJ, basically, it's a five-mile radius from the city's city limits, and that established the city's ETJ extraterritorial jurisdiction. And from that area, the city can, or a person or developer or a property owner that wants to be in the city must go through the city or where the city's ETJ is. So if they're in the city of Denton's ETJ, they come to the city of Denton. If they're in Crum or Sanger, then they go to Crum or Sanger. But the areas that you see colored there that have the hatching is within the city of Denton's ETJ. So any of those properties that come in and want to come in would have to be within the city of Denton. Now, our ETJ actually goes around Crum, and then to a certain degree Sanger is up here as well. And the reason why Crum is basically surrounded by the city of Denton's ETJ is the city of Denton, when it hit 100,000 population, the radius went to five miles. Where Crum hasn't even gone to a certain population, they're at a one-mile radius. So that's why you see theirs being so small. We basically, when we hit 100, we just basically went around them. So this is where we currently are in terms of our ETJ. Now, we also did some boundary adjustments with Ponder. So this is why you see this area over here. But generally, the ETJ is you're in the county, not in the city, but any future annexation, the city has the right to take those properties into the city of Denton. And further, the city only has zoning authority within its city limits. So the land use destinations we're showing in the ETJ on this map are more aspirational to an extent. But it's also sort of where everyone sees growth going or seeing the kinds of uses developing. Just real quick to kind of highlight that area. So this area right here, you can see my cursor. That's currently not in the city, right, because it's got the hatching. And we have it as low residential. We're seeing a lot of low residential development there. And actually, that fits within the growth area of what we want to see is low residential. So that's why we've designated it as low. But as Hillary mentioned, this is not in the city, so we don't have any jurisdiction. However, if it develops, we would like to see, you know, the area developed low residential. I guess who provides policing and fire and all that stuff out there? Is that the city of Denton? No, that is the county. Now there are some agreements between the county and the city to provide. Obviously, if we have a big presence in that area, then for the most part, the county or the sheriff's department, the county sheriffs provide that service for those areas. Is that right? That's right there around like Collins? Collins is I think down here. Yeah. So this is Locust and then this is Shawnee. Okay. I try to make this bigger. It doesn't really help. It just shows the future land use designation and we won't go through all this, but you can see it covers all the different land uses that the city, that the map represents. And a lot of this information is in the conference plan itself. So when you have an opportunity, when I'll send the link out, you get to review. Is that regional mixed use, the squares that are in the ETJ? I can't quite tell the color. Those are actually potential MUDs, municipal utility districts. And for those that are not familiar, municipal utility districts are an extra taxing entity where these developers don't have the, or tax the future owners, this additional tax in order to provide the utility, water and wastewater. They're not technically in the city, but in order for them to develop, they need to establish this municipal utility district in order to provide those services. And you see that they're coming in a lot faster than we anticipated. For those that are familiar with 380 along the eastern side of this area, Providence, Savannah, those were municipal utility districts. Some of them have converted into cities, but those are how they started. We started out as municipal utility districts. Fran, does the, if Den gets to 200,000, does the ETJ boundary move from a five mile to, or are we kind of cat undercurrent? I think we're state cat. I think five miles is. And you've probably seen areas like Fort Worth, for example, they continue, as their city limit grows, so does their ETJ. So it's just sort of like slowly growing, their ETJ also grows. Now, if it hits another ETJ, then it has to go around it or stops. But if there's nothing that stops them, they can, their ETJ can grow as far north or far west as they grow. And this isn't really sort of outside of the ZPA, but I believe the city does also have the right, even though it doesn't use it, to de-annexed annexations, but that's not really done. That's not really done. It's more of an application or the person or the property owner that wants a property to be de-annexed, meaning to be outside or removed from the city. They have to prove to the city that we, the city, have not provided them with the services that we had told them that we would provide. And so it's really on their own selves to provide that proof. For the most part, the city's not going to initiate that unless there's a really good reason, but I haven't seen any de-annexation since I've been here. Robeson will answer that one, that gives us a good reason. But not quite good enough. So this is, Connor, this is your question. Is there areas that we don't want to see, you know, development? Well, this is more the reverse, and this is the area of the city, areas of the city that we want to see growth or be, you know, limited. In that, we want to preserve as much of the land as you see here. These are basically natural features, you know, actually the creeks, some environmental sensitive areas, those are what's represented here. We also show trails and other, you know, floodplains as well. This sort of helps in explaining, you know, this is the area that we want to see remain open and not develop. So this is sort of what was added to the conference plan as part of the 10-20 40. One thing I wanted to mention, and correct me if I'm wrong, the previous map that you showed, it is not the same as the zoning, but it kind of mirrors it a little bit. The zoning actually is a little different. Zoning is a little bit more, there's actually a zoning map, and it gets a little bit more refined, and actually it's really what holds, what uses are proposed or can be built on a property, it's based on that zoning map. The future land use, as Hillary mentioned, is very aspirational. However, we try to make it as consistent to it as much as possible because that's what our vision is and that's what the plan calls for. So it's useful because if there's a requested zoning change that fits with the aspirations, then, you know, this is P&Z work, but if it doesn't fit the aspirations, it's a good reason to turn it down. I think this is the last map. This is the focus area concept map, and you can see that the areas that are in red are major corridors, you know, where there could be a corridor plan. We don't have one right now in the city. I can tell you that we do have some area plans in the city. The downtown, right, you see here, we have a master plan for downtown. That is actually going to be updated in the near future. It's about 20 years old, so that master plan needs to be updated. The city has a city council has identified two areas, possible three areas of future area plans. One is being this northeast area right here, just because we're seeing so much growth there or potential growth in that there's a need to look at that area as far as land use and mobility. We also south to see southeast is another area identified as a southeast is another area for an area plan. We tried to have an area plan here years and years ago but never really got it done. So we're starting that effort as well. And then another area that has some traction or wanting to look at is this northeast because we're seeing such a large amount of growth in this area, we want to make sure not only again land use and mobility. Those are the major things that the area plan can provide a little bit more details to what should be developed in that area. And a couple close to in the west side, close to 377. What are those, he's right over here. West of 35 West. Yeah, that's sort of like I think the DNA area. This one is more like we're country club and is a Hobson. That's another major corridor. So what do those mean. So those are future like area plan so a little bit more focus as far as how we want to see now zoning has control over what uses can be built there, but the area plan can also provide a little bit more direction. Yes, as to you know if that's only is correct or incorrect. They can it can potentially change his own as part of that effort. And is that also that's not the same as overlay, but it can be. I mean, the area plan would inform if there should be an overlay or their zoning should change. So yes, to your point, it would only inform it, it would not be an overlay, an overlay would have to be created for that area. So like if there's a little area that has some beloved businesses and so forth. That just seems like a certain area. That's when there might be an argument for overlay. Correct. And then added protection for that area. What about the green stars. So the green stars are good question they are like our, our branding or our gateway into the city. So you can see that, you know, you've got them, you know, this intersection here, the other area. We also have them in areas of where people would come in, and it'd be a great opportunity to have some sort of branding or gateway location. The blue circle ones are your more or less your gateway, I believe, live in more larger area but the green are more branding versus, you know, gateway. Action plan we talked about this already I won't go through all of this it just basically contains all the actions and how is it supposed to be accomplished. I also asked that the staff, make sure that we be as transparent as possible in terms of where we are in these actions. So, we will have in the next coming month, months. Data dashboard that is on our website so you can see each action and see where they are in the process. I'll tell you much of them are probably going to be in progress or not yet started, but there are a number of them that will be hopefully in the near future completed. And so that's where those are going to be presented again on our city's website. Lastly, and this is the actual room that we're in right now we're sitting way back here but we filled this whole room up with individuals, where we had the comprehensive plan public open house. And you see that there were six phases, and we went through all those phases. Like I said, and you can just imagine there were. It's a strategic update as I said earlier and not a wholesale rewrite so it was strategic to specific components of the conference plan. We identify accomplishments we use input from the community. Again, ultimately the vision and the goals and the policies and actions work, what we wanted to make sure we are still, you know, still valid. And so we want to make sure that that's carried forward the public engagement we try to do it as do as much as we can it started when coven, I think it was 2020. So, it's been that long already and so this was our first opportunity to have a public open house. And so we believe this was back in 2021, but the process itself was started back in 2020. That's pretty much it. So, really high level comprehensive plan is a fairly big document I won't say it's an easy read but it's a helpful document for you all to be familiar with. I won't say it is a requirement for you for this board but it's something that citizens of them, something that you should be aware of and hopefully you can carry that forward. Not only outside of this board but you know with with other folks that you meet as well so hopefully that was helpful and if you have any questions or want to follow up, I'm obviously available to talk about it more, and I'll make sure to send out that link so that you can take a look at that document itself. Hard copies, we have hard copies if you want hard copy. I think some of you may not want hard copies but if you want, I've got some as well. Yeah, I think I have a 2030. I have a 2030. I'd like to get a hard copy. So I'm going to make sure we have three, four. I'll take the link. All right, you take the link. So I hear six. Yeah. Okay. And I don't know, most people are familiar with the ZBI because I've been on it for a while but our role is largely unfortunately we don't prevent anything we, well we do actually when we, if we turn down a waiver, and we're, you know, everybody's had all that training and so forth. I did get a chance to talk to Angela and Connor so I told them that, you know, I think for the most folks, most folks I think it was your first meeting we had that meeting and that was a big challenge. We're trying to ease them, you know, into it so when we get a case, we'll have more time to go through it. Yeah. And the last one yeah right we're one of the city attorneys came forward against the plan and everything. Thank you very much. I guess we will. If there's no further business, let me see that. Does the board have any other business to discuss? Seeing none, if there's no other business I will entertain a motion to adjourn. I move to adjourn. All in favor? Aye. Have a good night. Thank you.