WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.800 >> Okay. All right. 00:00:03.800 --> 00:00:08.700 Well, this meeting of the Mobility Committee Wednesday, 00:00:08.700 --> 00:00:20.100 October the 26th, 2022, 10 a.m. Our first item is 00:00:20.100 --> 00:00:25.600 to have any individual consideration items 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:27.700 on the agendas that individuals are able 00:00:27.700 --> 00:00:30.200 to comment one time per agenda. 00:00:30.200 --> 00:00:31.700 Each speaker is going to give a total 00:00:31.700 --> 00:00:34.200 of three minutes per agenda item. 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.700 A requested speak card must be completed and returned 00:00:36.700 --> 00:00:41.800 to the staff liaison before the committee considers the items. 00:00:41.800 --> 00:00:47.900 Items for individual consideration, MC-22-029, 00:00:47.900 --> 00:00:54.300 consider the approval of the minutes of September 28, 2022. 00:00:54.300 --> 00:00:56.000 >> I move approval of the minutes. 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:08.400 >> Okay. MC-22-030, receive a report and hold a discussion 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:12.100 regarding the City of Denny's Transportation Mobility Project 00:01:12.100 --> 00:01:15.000 Status Report. 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:16.600 Good morning, sir. 00:01:16.600 --> 00:01:29.100 [ Inaudible ] 00:01:29.100 --> 00:01:31.900 >> John Bolster, Innovative Transportation Solutions. 00:01:31.900 --> 00:01:37.700 I'm here to give you an update on your transportation report. 00:01:37.700 --> 00:01:44.400 So we'll start off with some good news. 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.000 As you may have noticed if you drive 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.600 around the southern part of the town, 00:01:50.600 --> 00:01:56.700 2181 essentially was open to its final configuration back 00:01:56.700 --> 00:02:01.300 on October 17th, so road is essentially open 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:07.700 and we're now doing punch list items, sod, painting, 00:02:07.700 --> 00:02:15.300 some of the storm water prevention barricades. 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:17.700 They're up for construction, so it's essentially open 00:02:17.700 --> 00:02:22.400 to traffic after nine years of trauma. 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.700 So that's good news there. 00:02:25.700 --> 00:02:27.700 >> It's wonderful news. 00:02:27.700 --> 00:02:35.100 >> Mayhill, at 35, the project is slowly creeping 00:02:35.100 --> 00:02:40.000 up in cost, we're at 95 million bucks for that interchange 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.900 and fringe roads all the way to the new look. 00:02:43.900 --> 00:02:48.700 The funding was included in its previous August approval 00:02:48.700 --> 00:02:51.900 of the United Unified Transportation Plan 00:02:51.900 --> 00:02:58.500 and we are still ready to let in 2023 assuming all 00:02:58.500 --> 00:03:02.900 of these utilities that are listed here will meet their 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:04.900 deadlines or so. 00:03:04.900 --> 00:03:09.400 Being told by tech site we won't be making these dates, 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:12.400 so we should be letting this project go 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:17.700 to construction in December of, it says June of 25, 00:03:17.700 --> 00:03:21.600 but since we got the money in August, 00:03:21.600 --> 00:03:24.300 it'll be the 23 timeframe. 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:31.700 You'll note that a lot of these numbers are highlighted, 00:03:31.700 --> 00:03:35.700 the reason for that is because of two reasons. 00:03:35.700 --> 00:03:39.900 One is we were needing to get additional funding previously 00:03:39.900 --> 00:03:43.300 to the last six months and the other reason is 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:48.100 that in the past six months a lot of the costs have gone up. 00:03:48.100 --> 00:03:55.900 So the I-35E merge project is at $431 million, it's a change 00:03:55.900 --> 00:03:58.300 and we have those funds and again 00:03:58.300 --> 00:04:03.900 that project will be letting September of next year. 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:07.600 Assuming all these utilities get relocated, 00:04:07.600 --> 00:04:12.500 but again we're fairly confident that that will happen. 00:04:12.500 --> 00:04:18.800 And then your I-35 North project, it's got been broken into, 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.100 it's essentially only three projects. 00:04:23.100 --> 00:04:28.100 The blue project is the interchange associated 00:04:28.100 --> 00:04:34.900 with the 455 project and it's going to be built with SN455. 00:04:34.900 --> 00:04:40.200 Again, it's $792 million is what we have available 00:04:40.200 --> 00:04:45.300 and right now it's at $749, so we didn't have to change the 00:04:45.300 --> 00:04:48.300 dollars on it because we had enough money in the project. 00:04:48.300 --> 00:04:57.300 35W Furnace Roads, this one six months ago we thought it was 00:04:57.300 --> 00:05:01.100 $180 million, we asked for $188 million and got that approved 00:05:01.100 --> 00:05:08.500 in the August UTP, they did a new cost estimate 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:12.700 and their current estimate now is $321 million, 00:05:12.700 --> 00:05:17.600 so somebody's going to have to pay the cost off for that one. 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:24.100 But again, we are, it has an actual let date of September 24, 00:05:24.100 --> 00:05:26.300 so between now and then we'll figure out how 00:05:26.300 --> 00:05:30.500 to cover a doubling across this project. 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:36.900 And this is from 407 North to essentially 2449, 00:05:36.900 --> 00:05:41.800 where the Luke 28 will come in in the future. 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.500 And we're also working on picking up somebody 00:05:45.500 --> 00:05:49.800 to do the Furnace Roads on the southern part of this project 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.600 in the next UTP update. 00:05:54.600 --> 00:06:01.000 Okay, 377 and 380 project across the lake. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.900 We are anticipating this project being completed 00:06:04.900 --> 00:06:06.400 in December of next year. 00:06:06.400 --> 00:06:15.900 There are various phases, we've just switched to our second phase 00:06:15.900 --> 00:06:23.600 all year this month and so far we seem to be on track. 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.300 I haven't heard any problems with anything going on out there 00:06:26.300 --> 00:06:32.500 and I'm assuming if there were problems we'd all hear about it. 00:06:32.500 --> 00:06:34.800 U288 West Furnace Road project. 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.200 The chain to tail is in full on design. 00:06:38.200 --> 00:06:42.100 It's part of what we're doing is working with the city 00:06:42.100 --> 00:06:46.200 on some thoroughfare plan modifications 00:06:46.200 --> 00:06:50.600 to make sure the Luke 28 is accommodating the needs 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:54.400 of those future roads when this project -- 00:06:54.400 --> 00:06:56.800 because when they initially designed this project, 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.900 they used an old thoroughfare plan. 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:03.700 So modifying the southern part of the project 00:07:03.700 --> 00:07:09.000 to make sure it accommodates the city's current thoroughfare plan. 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:17.700 Again, it's not cheap as far as the Furnace Roads cost, 00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:23.500 but we're confident by the time we get to the ready to let date 00:07:23.500 --> 00:07:25.800 of April 26th that we'll have the money. 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.400 And remember, the reason why this takes so long from design 00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:35.400 to ready to let is because of all the utilities out there, 00:07:35.400 --> 00:07:38.800 the gas wells, the transmission lines. 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.000 There's a significant number of relocations just 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.600 with the gas wells along this corridor. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:51.100 And then your 28080 Furnace Road project. 00:07:51.100 --> 00:07:55.200 We've got ChicoCope working on that. 00:07:55.200 --> 00:08:00.400 We met with the city earlier this month to get a handle 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:04.200 on the incredible number of developments that are going 00:08:04.200 --> 00:08:08.800 on in this corridor, trying to accommodate, mitigate, 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:12.400 and otherwise avoid where possible. 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:15.600 But the whole reason we're doing it is because of the development 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.900 that wants to be in this corridor. 00:08:16.900 --> 00:08:21.200 So that's our critical path item right now is to get a handle 00:08:21.200 --> 00:08:26.200 on where the developments are and what can be done in the interim 00:08:26.200 --> 00:08:29.900 to make sure that they are aware of what we're doing 00:08:29.900 --> 00:08:34.000 and we're aware of what they're doing. 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:40.800 And so what we may end up doing is if we have some areas 00:08:40.800 --> 00:08:45.200 where the project is in conflict with the development 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:50.700 and we can't mediate the issue, if the bottom program passes, 00:08:50.700 --> 00:08:56.600 we may end up doing some preemptive land banking 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.600 on this corridor because we can't lose the corridor. 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:03.600 Bonnie Bray, segment seven. 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.400 We're including this and this project. 00:09:06.400 --> 00:09:09.500 So over here on the far west side of the project 00:09:09.500 --> 00:09:13.900 for the loop 288 we're including the Bonnie Bray segment seven 00:09:13.900 --> 00:09:17.300 into the 288 project because it also ties into the frontage road. 00:09:17.300 --> 00:09:20.600 So again, it's Pacheco Coke who's doing that as part 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:27.900 of the 288 design and clearing that part 00:09:27.900 --> 00:09:31.500 because that part's not clear right now. 00:09:31.500 --> 00:09:34.100 1515, nothing really has changed here. 00:09:34.100 --> 00:09:40.200 We're just continuing to work on finalizing the design. 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:46.300 And again, we are looking at a ready to let of October 2024 00:09:46.300 --> 00:09:53.500 and we still need the $38 million but we're confident we'll get it. 00:09:53.500 --> 00:09:58.400 1173, so we were going pretty quick and fast on this one 00:09:58.400 --> 00:10:01.900 to add it to the 35 job but I just got called 00:10:01.900 --> 00:10:07.300 from the engineer saying that the city 00:10:07.300 --> 00:10:11.800 of Chrome has got some issues with the western part of it. 00:10:11.800 --> 00:10:15.500 So we're going to go see if we can't meet with them and figure 00:10:15.500 --> 00:10:19.000 out what their concerns are if there was an administration change 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:22.800 from the old mayor to the new mayor, opinions have changed. 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:26.000 So we may not hit our mark 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.000 for having the project what they call plans adequate which is 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.300 when the design gets far enough along 00:10:32.300 --> 00:10:34.300 where the utilities can use those plans 00:10:34.300 --> 00:10:36.900 to determine whether or not they're in conflict 00:10:36.900 --> 00:10:38.600 so they can start moving. 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.000 We were thinking we'd get that in December or January. 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.600 We may end up not having that ability. 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:47.800 It won't happen some other time. 00:10:47.800 --> 00:10:55.400 Outer Lube, this one is LJA is doing the work. 00:10:55.400 --> 00:10:59.000 What we're looking at is on the eastern portion. 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:04.700 There isn't a logical term and I where Cohen kind of left off 00:11:04.700 --> 00:11:07.300 because they didn't environmentally clear it 00:11:07.300 --> 00:11:10.100 so they just simply built the road in a pasture 00:11:10.100 --> 00:11:12.800 for lack of a better word for future development. 00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:17.000 So we're working with Tech Stock to identify the logical term 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.000 and I and once we get that done then we'll start 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.200 into the hard part of the environmental clearance. 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.800 Alma Locus, I'll leave this to Becky to talk about 00:11:26.800 --> 00:11:29.100 but we did get the information from Tech Stock 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:37.100 and I think the city is reviewing those plans. 00:11:37.100 --> 00:11:39.100 We are meeting internally next week to go 00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:42.300 through the pavement section that's been submitted 00:11:42.300 --> 00:11:45.200 and then I spoke with Travis actually last night 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.600 and we're going to work till meet and go through all 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.700 of our comments later part of next week. 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:54.600 So working through those logistics of the pavement section 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.600 that was submitted, the design that was submitted, 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.200 just making sure we're all on the same page 00:11:58.200 --> 00:11:59.100 so we can move forward. 00:11:59.100 --> 00:12:02.800 So we know what we're doing as far as the limits 00:12:02.800 --> 00:12:05.400 and we know what we're going to do as far as the improvements. 00:12:05.400 --> 00:12:07.700 What we don't know is the pavement depth 00:12:07.700 --> 00:12:14.500 and the effects consistent with what the city desires. 00:12:14.500 --> 00:12:16.900 And then all the resurfacing in the city 00:12:16.900 --> 00:12:20.300 of Denton proper has been completed and we are now 00:12:20.300 --> 00:12:21.800 into the striping phase. 00:12:21.800 --> 00:12:25.900 You'll see where there's where they're striping some 00:12:25.900 --> 00:12:27.700 of the sections in the north. 00:12:27.700 --> 00:12:31.800 It was kind of scary yesterday when I was coming back in town, 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:33.800 but we should be done by the end of the month 00:12:33.800 --> 00:12:40.300 on all the striping on 35 resurfacing project in Denton. 00:12:40.300 --> 00:12:44.200 I think that is it for me. 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:49.100 Don't forget to go vote for roads. 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:51.600 I'm not going to tell you how to vote. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:57.900 It's just going to take a vote for roads and that's it for me. 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:00.100 Any questions? 00:13:00.100 --> 00:13:04.900 >> Yes, I have a question in regards to the -- 00:13:04.900 --> 00:13:06.700 back to the loop. 00:13:06.700 --> 00:13:07.300 >> The outlook? 00:13:07.300 --> 00:13:08.400 >> The outlook. 00:13:08.400 --> 00:13:10.000 >> Loop 288. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:10.700 >> Okay. 00:13:10.700 --> 00:13:13.000 >> The front edge road. 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.500 Right there. 00:13:14.500 --> 00:13:15.800 >> Okay. 00:13:15.800 --> 00:13:17.400 >> So I see that it's highlighted. 00:13:17.400 --> 00:13:19.800 I see a highlight green. 00:13:19.800 --> 00:13:21.200 >> This right here? 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:22.800 >> Yeah, and then it cuts through. 00:13:22.800 --> 00:13:25.300 >> Yeah. So what -- okay. 00:13:25.300 --> 00:13:27.500 I'll wait until you ask. 00:13:27.500 --> 00:13:29.100 >> Go ahead. 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:37.300 >> So what we're attempting to do is to tie 380 to 35 00:13:37.300 --> 00:13:40.800 because we're going to have direct connects at 35 here 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:44.400 on the loop and the intent is once this part 00:13:44.400 --> 00:13:49.000 of the loop is basically a freeway with the front edge roads, 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.300 we want to make the traffic travel up and around the loop 00:13:52.300 --> 00:13:56.600 to go -- it's just cutting through to go up on 288 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.400 and so then you can come in, 00:13:58.400 --> 00:14:01.800 especially when you get the western part done, you can come 00:14:01.800 --> 00:14:06.700 in and restrict truck traffic that's just going 00:14:06.700 --> 00:14:09.000 through your community off of 380. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:10.700 And so in order to make that movement, 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:16.800 we need to have a more direct movement from 382, 288, 00:14:16.800 --> 00:14:19.200 and let me say that that is not the scale. 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.500 It won't be -- it's actually a lot tighter in, 00:14:23.500 --> 00:14:27.400 but the intent is to have a direct movement. 00:14:27.400 --> 00:14:30.600 And then if you want to go into town, you'll have to stop 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.400 and get off of the box and go through the signal. 00:14:33.400 --> 00:14:36.600 So the intent is to make it go straight 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:40.000 over to 35 as fluidly as possible. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:55.200 >> I-35 between the Oak and 380, as we know, 00:14:55.200 --> 00:15:02.000 with the changes that were made, with the exit being so close 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:07.300 and you all pulled the exit back, it's just no -- 00:15:07.300 --> 00:15:08.600 it's no reasoning. 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.000 I mean, it just doesn't seem like there's anything else 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.900 that could be done because I got hung up in there one time. 00:15:13.900 --> 00:15:15.900 >> Yeah, I get hung up there all the time. 00:15:15.900 --> 00:15:16.800 >> And it's just -- 00:15:16.800 --> 00:15:17.400 >> Say it to one. 00:15:17.400 --> 00:15:21.000 >> And it's so -- for me, it's so -- 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:26.400 it's very scary to see all of those impatient people just pull 00:15:26.400 --> 00:15:28.800 out in front of cars that are still traveling. 00:15:28.800 --> 00:15:35.000 >> So the solution is that everything we just built there 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:41.000 is going to be torn out when the merge project goes 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.800 and there'll be a braided ramp there. 00:15:43.800 --> 00:15:47.200 And so what a braided ramp is is what you need is people getting 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.100 on and getting off between Oak and 380. 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:51.800 That's why all those people are there. 00:15:51.800 --> 00:15:52.500 >> They're there. 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:53.000 >> They're there. 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.600 And so what we're going to do is your exit ramp will be 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.600 in the same location as your entrance ramp and it will go 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.600 up and over and get on a freeway. 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:07.000 So you'll separate the movements and that supposedly will solve 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.300 the problem because what's happening is everybody wants 00:16:10.300 --> 00:16:12.500 to get on and off to the same location. 00:16:12.500 --> 00:16:14.900 And just to put it in perspective, if you've gone 00:16:14.900 --> 00:16:18.400 down south towards like North Fort Worth 00:16:18.400 --> 00:16:22.200 where Western Center Boulevard is, those are braided ramps. 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:22.800 >> Okay. 00:16:22.800 --> 00:16:25.000 >> So those big bridges where everybody's getting 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:26.200 on and off at the same time, 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.400 that's what will be there on 35. 00:16:30.400 --> 00:16:33.200 So that should solve the problem. 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.300 >> So when I am -- I'm almost trying to explain 00:16:37.300 --> 00:16:39.000 to my husband what's going on. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:39.800 I was going to do this. 00:16:39.800 --> 00:16:41.200 I got to do this. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.800 That Mayhill and that 35. 00:16:45.800 --> 00:16:49.600 And I notice that the Exxon looks like it's on its way out 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:50.600 or it's finally -- 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:54.400 >> Yes, ma'am. 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:56.400 >> Explain to me what that's going to kind of look like. 00:16:56.400 --> 00:17:00.200 >> So you see what Luke 288 at Golden Triangle Mall 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.400 on 35 looks like, the big interchange? 00:17:03.400 --> 00:17:05.100 That's only 10 lanes. 00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:07.500 What we're going to do at Mayhill is the same thing. 00:17:07.500 --> 00:17:09.800 Only it will be 12 lanes that go under the freeway. 00:17:09.800 --> 00:17:12.900 So it will be a significant larger footprint 00:17:12.900 --> 00:17:16.700 because you have six lanes coming to Mayhill 00:17:16.700 --> 00:17:19.000 and six lanes coming up from 2499. 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:24.600 So it will be a large structure with three lanes in dual Fs 00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:28.300 and then a U-turn in both directions. 00:17:28.300 --> 00:17:35.900 And so that 2499 Mayhill, it's going to run from 35 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:39.400 over to Woodrow like that. 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.400 All of that is being cleaned up. 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.600 >> So we've got three projects going on. 00:17:44.600 --> 00:17:50.200 North of 35 at Mayhill, we are realigning Mayhill 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:54.800 through that track to tie it in and go straight up Mayhill, 00:17:54.800 --> 00:17:59.900 take out that bend at Colorado and Edwards and get rid 00:17:59.900 --> 00:18:02.400 of that great crossing of the railroad. 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:10.900 And then 35 interchange itself 00:18:10.900 --> 00:18:15.200 with Mayhill will be the 12 lanes and then 2499 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.000 to the south is our six lanes. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:29.300 >> Okay, so between Mayhill and Woodrow, Colorado and 35, 00:18:29.300 --> 00:18:33.400 all of that is going to be a part of this project? 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:35.400 >> So we're negotiating that. 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:40.100 Because what happened is the old environmental document did not go 00:18:40.100 --> 00:18:47.300 all the way north to Colorado. 00:18:47.300 --> 00:18:50.600 And so we've got the Cog City of Denton, 00:18:50.600 --> 00:18:55.200 Denton County project that's going to redo Mayhill at Colorado. 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.000 And so we're just figuring out how 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.000 to just close the gap between the two. 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:00.100 We'll figure it out. 00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:02.800 >> That's what I hadn't heard, you know, all that time. 00:19:02.800 --> 00:19:04.200 So I know that that is a big deal. 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:06.400 >> Yeah, we're not going to do all that work and then have it 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.400 with us, you'd all call stupid because we didn't fix that. 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.600 800 feet of pavement. 00:19:12.600 --> 00:19:14.000 We'll fix that. 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.200 We'll get it one way or the other. 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:17.600 >> I'm holding your hand. 00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:20.400 >> Everybody does. 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:20.800 >> Thank you. 00:19:20.800 --> 00:19:23.200 It goes on. 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:24.200 >> I'm good. 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:24.600 >> Yeah. 00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:25.800 >> All right. 00:19:25.800 --> 00:19:27.500 Easy. 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:28.500 >> Thank you very much. 00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:28.800 >> Yeah. 00:19:28.800 --> 00:19:30.200 >> Thanks. 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:31.900 >> I didn't bring anything, so. 00:19:31.900 --> 00:19:32.600 >> Thank you, John. 00:19:32.600 --> 00:19:35.700 >> All right. 00:19:35.700 --> 00:19:41.900 NC22032 received a report holding discussion 00:19:41.900 --> 00:19:45.600 against that direction regarding Bonnie Gray Street 00:19:45.600 --> 00:19:47.800 Project Update. 00:19:47.800 --> 00:19:57.600 [ Inaudible ] 00:19:57.600 --> 00:19:58.100 >> Morning. 00:19:58.100 --> 00:19:58.900 I'm Kyle Pettico. 00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:01.400 I'm a program manager with Capital Improvement. 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:05.700 And so today, I'm going to give an overall update 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:09.200 on all the projects associated with the Bonnie Gray Corridor 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:14.200 and as well as go into staff's findings regarding a potential 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.100 roundabout at Windsor and Bonnie Gray, 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:22.300 associated with the phase six of this project. 00:20:22.300 --> 00:20:23.500 So here's an overview. 00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:25.600 The Gantt chart at the bottom, 00:20:25.600 --> 00:20:28.900 the colors match the map at the right. 00:20:28.900 --> 00:20:33.500 So starting at the bottom from Rose Lawn to 35 is phase three, 00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:34.300 Bonnie Gray phase three. 00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:39.000 That one is currently bidding and is set to close next week. 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.300 So pending council award, we're looking 00:20:41.300 --> 00:20:45.700 at a late four-four start construction. 00:20:45.700 --> 00:20:50.800 And that's approximately an 18-month project. 00:20:50.800 --> 00:20:52.700 Phase four is in green. 00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:56.100 That is between I-35 and scripture. 00:20:56.100 --> 00:21:01.000 That one has funding associated with the 2022 county bond. 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:05.900 And the estimated schedule on that pending the approval 00:21:05.900 --> 00:21:11.000 of the funding is construction start in the beginning of 2024. 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.900 Phase five is scripture to U.S. 380. 00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:16.500 That's in pink. 00:21:16.500 --> 00:21:19.600 That is the same as phase four type 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:22.700 of bond 2022 county bond funding 00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:26.900 and estimated construction start is early 2025. 00:21:26.900 --> 00:21:29.900 Phase six is the one that we're talking about today. 00:21:29.900 --> 00:21:33.200 That is U.S. 380, U.S. 77. 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:39.500 This one is completed in the design phase and we're ready 00:21:39.500 --> 00:21:42.800 to send it out to bid pending one final parcel 00:21:42.800 --> 00:21:46.300 that we have to acquire. 00:21:46.300 --> 00:21:49.200 It's the -- since there's federal funding, 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:55.900 we need to have all the parcels acquired before we commit the project. 00:21:55.900 --> 00:21:58.700 So regarding a proposed roundabout at Wednesday. 00:21:58.700 --> 00:22:02.600 So the current plan for phase six that's complete includes construction 00:22:02.600 --> 00:22:07.900 of a standard signalized intersection with this project 00:22:07.900 --> 00:22:14.000 that would -- traffic signals, crosswalks for a standard intersection. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:20.700 So on August 16th, 2022 council member Davis requested information regarding the viability 00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:23.600 of replacing that planned signal with a roundabout. 00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:30.300 There was previous communication with staff that was provided where staff would -- 00:22:30.300 --> 00:22:34.600 was committed to look into the viability 00:22:34.600 --> 00:22:37.600 and research the viability of a roundabout at that intersection. 00:22:37.600 --> 00:22:43.000 So that's what we're trying to accomplish here even though the project's designed 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.000 and ready to go. 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:51.900 So in this presentation we examine the impacts of this roundabout 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:58.500 on the project cost and schedule, any impacts to traffic and then any impacts 00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:02.400 to pedestrian and pedestrian traffic. 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:08.000 Here's a quick cost breakdown. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:13.300 So running through each of these, we'd have to redesign the pavement, 00:23:13.300 --> 00:23:16.800 redesign the drainage due to the increased footprint. 00:23:16.800 --> 00:23:23.100 We'd have to add in some temporary pavement to maintain access during construction. 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:28.300 We would emit the signal at Windsor which would result in a credit. 00:23:28.300 --> 00:23:35.000 But then we'd have to perform an environmental reevaluation due to the federal 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.700 or the textile funding. We'd have to require additional right-of-way 00:23:39.700 --> 00:23:42.200 which looks -- is approximately a 12-month process 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:46.000 if anything most driven domain. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.600 We would have to accommodate the fire station at this location. 00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:57.000 So the proximity of the roundabout to the fire station would require a preemption signal 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:03.900 and a bigger traffic study to go into how that would work getting the engines out of the garage 00:24:03.900 --> 00:24:08.200 and getting such folks proximity to an un-signalized intersection. 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.800 And then we would also have a large utility relocation cost. 00:24:11.800 --> 00:24:15.500 We're looking at approximately a two-year delay on this. 00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:22.200 And base estimate $1 million cost of relocating utilities. 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:28.400 We'd have to remove a minimum of three EME towers and relocate a 42-inch water line 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:30.900 that would now be under the footprint of the roundabout. 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:36.000 So overall we're looking at approximately a three-year delay and $2 million additional cost 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:42.900 if we were to add a roundabout at this stage of the project. 00:24:42.900 --> 00:24:45.300 Here's a brief overview of the utility concerns. 00:24:45.300 --> 00:24:56.200 So in this overview, this yellow line here is the DME of 138 kVA transmission line. 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:06.600 And that's a picture of what the tower transmission line looks like that would have to be relocated to the left there. 00:25:06.600 --> 00:25:13.700 And that's also the blue line represents the location of the 42-inch water transmission line. 00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:22.800 So the reason for the 24-month schedule impact on these is both of these have up to 12-month lead times 00:25:22.800 --> 00:25:28.900 on materials for procurement plus they have very, very limited windows in which we can shut these down 00:25:28.900 --> 00:25:38.500 to perform any type of relocation because they're both large-scale transmission lines of water and electricity. 00:25:38.500 --> 00:25:45.600 Regarding funding concerns that we uncovered with this analysis. 00:25:45.600 --> 00:25:52.800 So due to the inclusion of FHWA funds, this project cannot be sent out to bid 00:25:52.800 --> 00:25:58.300 until all of our clearance letters for right-of-way utility clearance letters are received. 00:25:58.300 --> 00:26:08.100 So with that long utility relocation window and the additional right-of-way acquisition, 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:16.500 we're looking at a potential, again, 36-month delay to the schedule of the project. 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:20.700 So we would also risk, put our federal funds at risk. 00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:27.400 So right now, we have $11.8 million in federal funding through TxDOT. 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:33.900 And if there's a substantial delay due to a late-stage redesign and this reevaluation 00:26:33.900 --> 00:26:37.200 that the process would have to go through, we would put that funding at risk. 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.600 So I included a Gantt chart at the bottom showing the different stages of Bonnie Bray. 00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:47.500 Bonnie Bray 6 is the blue line, again, showing that we're ready to begin this project 00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:51.700 with construction estimated early next year. 00:26:51.700 --> 00:26:56.100 The bottom line is if we would add a roundabout and include that 36-month delay, 00:26:56.100 --> 00:27:03.300 showing that we wouldn't start construction until approximately 2026. 00:27:03.300 --> 00:27:10.100 So we also analyzed the pedestrian concerns in this area because that's been a bit of a hot topic, 00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:12.900 especially with the new high school openings. 00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:20.300 So on this map, I have the new DISD high school highlighted along 00:27:20.300 --> 00:27:23.700 with the proposed DISD elementary school. 00:27:23.700 --> 00:27:28.300 This elementary school is estimated to be open in August of 2024. 00:27:28.300 --> 00:27:35.500 So we're working that phasing in with the current plan for Bonnie Bray, 00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:39.600 the current construction plan to minimize the impact on that school. 00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:44.200 But if we face the delay due to adding this roundabout, 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:51.300 we wouldn't be starting the improvements on Bonnie Bray until after that school is open. 00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:58.200 We also had concerns regarding adding a non-signalized pedestrian crossing at that intersection 00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:03.200 because with the roundabout not having a signalized crossing times, 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:08.200 the crosswalks would be basically pedestrians crossing live traffic. 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:13.700 So in discussion, this presents what is called a multiple-threat scenario 00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:19.100 where if a pedestrian is crossing and the first car to see them stops, 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:22.500 as they're crossing in front of that car, the pedestrian can't see the second lane 00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:24.500 and that second lane can't see the pedestrian. 00:28:24.500 --> 00:28:31.000 So there's no signal to stop traffic that prevents a potential hazard to pedestrian travel, 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:38.000 especially considering that this is expected to be a major pedestrian route for both of these schools. 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.500 So with the Bonnie Bray phase 6 improvements, 00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:44.900 a 10-foot mixed-use path is being added on the east side of the road 00:28:44.900 --> 00:28:53.900 and a 6- to 8-foot wide sidewalk is being added along the west side. 00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:58.400 And then we also had concerns about future expansion. 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:02.400 So with the traffic impact analysis performed in 2020, 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:12.900 a four-lane divided roadway is expected to be able to take us through 2014 with as far as capacity. 00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:22.400 As soon as we start to exceed the 28,400 average daily trips, 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:27.400 we would have to upsize this to the Bonnie Bray to a six-lane roadway. 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.900 That was initially anticipated to be common issue around 2040, 00:29:32.900 --> 00:29:40.900 but that initial traffic analysis didn't take into consideration the development of these DISD properties 00:29:40.900 --> 00:29:47.900 or the multifamily developments of the mark and the perch, 00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:52.400 both of them in that Bonnie Bray corridor and the added traffic. 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:57.400 So a six-lane upgrade may be required before, earlier than 2040, 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:04.400 and this is just an example of what a six-lane roundabout would look like. 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:10.900 So through our analysis, staff leaves that replacing, at this stage of the project, 00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:15.400 so late with this project ready to bid, 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:20.900 replacing that intersection, the plan's signalization improvements with a roundabout 00:30:20.900 --> 00:30:26.900 would cause more negative than positive impacts on the community and on the project itself. 00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:33.400 It would cause impacts on the traveling public due to pedestrian risks. 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:43.400 With crossing that, it would potentially risk a withdrawal of the federal funding that we have assigned to this project. 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:51.400 DISD would face a delay of the improvements in this area, 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:59.400 causing major traffic impacts on their routes to school when this would eventually take place. 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:08.400 And then the neighborhood also has had a lot of complaints about the intersection at Windsor and Bonnie Bray being a four-way stop, 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:16.400 and so the neighborhood is very much looking for the signal being installed there with this Bonnie Bray project. 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:22.400 So staff recommends against adding a roundabout this phase, but we're searching, 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:30.400 we're looking for feedback from Mobility Committee before we present this to Council. 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.400 Any questions? 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:44.400 I'm pretty sold. I tend to be roundabout, agnostic. 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:54.400 I don't know a ton about the data regarding their safety as far as collisions or collisions with pedestrians. 00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:58.400 My first piece of feedback would be, before you bring it before Council, 00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:08.400 I would say add something in regarding pedestrian safety and roundabouts as far as data. 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:15.400 Just so that, because I'm trying to anticipate what Councilmember Davis might say, 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:25.400 that depending on what the priorities are, is it worth $2 million if it's a lot safer? Maybe. 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.400 Is it worth $2 million if it's a little safer? Maybe not. 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.400 I think that that's a cost-benefit analysis for sure. My feedback would be it's probably not. 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:41.400 But I'd say bring that before Council. 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:48.400 So what concerns was, and this is a question for anybody in the room who has an idea, 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:53.400 what concerns was Councilmember Davis trying to address when he suggested the roundabout? 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.400 Was it primarily pedestrians? 00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:00.400 I believe it's because there was communication between Council and previous staff 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.400 that a roundabout at this location would be analyzed. 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:12.400 And they provided emails of that effect to staff that wasn't communicated during the design process. 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:17.400 So the design went forward with a standard signal, a signalized intersection, 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:23.400 and we're just following up on providing the analysis and providing the information 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.400 that was promised previously but not communicated. 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:34.400 Okay. All right. So his main concern is just, hey, I heard this was happening. Is it not happening? 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:35.400 I believe so. 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.400 Not so much that he's pushing really hard for a roundabout necessarily? 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.400 Yeah. I would concur with what Kyle states. 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:50.400 We've just been made aware of a situation where there is previous communication that happened with previous staff. 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:54.400 None of us were here at that time that said, hey, we would evaluate it. 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.400 So we are wanting to go through the process to physically do the evaluation, 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:05.400 which I believe we've done so I'm confident with the work that Kyle's done to show, yes, it is a possible situation. 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:10.400 There are a million ways to design something, but from the staff's recommendation and perspective, 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.400 it slows the project down three years, adds additional $2 million, 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:22.400 and from a pedestrian perspective is maybe not the best-case scenario, and it negatively impacts DISD. 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.400 We actually met with DISD Monday. 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.400 And one of the things I know Kyle is aware of but I want to highlight is with you, 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:38.400 council has already passed an agreement for the Riney Road portion to be included as a part of the Bonnie and Mary Phase Six. 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:45.400 We've already coordinated with DISD through an interlocal agreement to add Riney Road construction to the Bonnie and Mary project 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.400 so that we are working to have even Riney Road improved before the new elementary comes on board too. 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:57.400 So all of that will be delayed to then after the – and if you've driven Riney Road, 00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:05.400 you know the improvements need to be made before the school – it's a very narrow way also – before there's a ton of school traffic on there. 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.400 We're simply just bringing it forward so that we can get your recommendation. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:15.400 It will go to council next Tuesday, but we felt that it was important to bring it forward just simply from the standpoint 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.400 that we were not aware of the conversations and it was brought to our attention. 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:33.400 So I guess my question is, was it – I guess Councilmember Davis asked you all to evaluate like the feasibility of adding a roundabout, 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:38.400 or was it that you were asked to evaluate or someone at some point was asked to evaluate 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:48.400 whether a roundabout at that intersection would be beneficial either for traffic flow, for safety, for pedestrians? 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.400 What was the request? 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:59.400 Yeah, the request that we received was basically to – would you look into if a roundabout could be constructed in that area? 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:05.400 There's not a lot of information. The information we received is approximately two sentences, 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:14.400 which is saying, "Hey, is there a possibility?" and staff saying, "Yes, we're happy to look into the possibility of putting in a roundabout in that area," 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.400 which would have been a part of the design process if we would have been aware of it. 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.400 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:25.400 Which we would have done the feasibility assessment and my feelings, and I'm sure Kyle will concur, 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:32.400 but we would have still gotten to the same point of a signalized intersection at this location, even with the evaluation being completed. 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:40.400 Well, I'll say this. I mean, just my personal feedback, like if this were the work session that we're going to have in front of Council, 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:48.400 I would say my top priority there would be pedestrian safety and bike safety because, as you mentioned, there is a ton of multifamily going in there. 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:57.400 There are going to be two big schools. Ideally, all the folks who live in those multifamily will be sending their kids to walk to those schools, 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:03.400 so hopefully that will be very heavy pedestrian traffic and whatever. 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:15.400 If you can put something in here about what evidence you have that a signalized intersection is the safest option anyway, then yeah. 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.400 Because I know that for smaller roadways, sometimes a roundabout is safer for pedestrians, right? 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.400 But I think the idea is this is not going to remain a small roadway. 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:30.400 So six lanes of traffic is a lot longer to get across than a smaller intersection. 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.400 I would say I have major concerns about the idea of that becoming a six lane roadway at some point in the future, 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.400 given how dense it's going to be and hopefully how much pedestrian traffic there will be. 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:45.400 I would hope that we can keep it small to prioritize that pedestrian traffic. 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.400 But regarding the roundabout, I'm sold. 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:55.400 Sure. And I would say, too, that on Bonnie Rae Face 6, it has a ten foot side path on one side of the roadway 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.400 and a five to eight foot, depending on the location and the easement on the west side. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.400 So we do have all of that as a part of the design that Kyle's been leading. 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:13.400 I wonder, too, if there was an element of this that was like the person who requested this 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:19.400 was interested in a roundabout for its traffic calming properties to keep traffic slow. 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:29.400 Is there anything else that's in the works in the area for keeping traffic slow on Bonnie Rae and on Windsor? 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:37.400 There's going to be multiple signalized intersections throughout. There's already a signal at 380 in Bonnie Rae. 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:45.400 There'll be one at Windsor. There'll be one at Riney, Barackoway, and then, of course, one at Bonnie Rae and 77. 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.400 So you're going to be stopping multiple times along that area where now you don't have that stop. 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.400 I don't know if there's anything you'd like to add. 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:58.400 Well, I think this is it. So we have the school zones that are being established in that area to slow traffic. 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.400 There we go. Okay. Yeah. 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:07.400 They're already implemented for the implementation of the high school, but we will have additional school zones with the new elementary school. 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:12.400 So my feedback would be, yeah, just include that, aside about that in the presentation. 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:13.400 Sure. 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:22.400 Okay. If the point of a roundabout is to slow people down, here are some other ways we're already planning to slow people down. 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.400 Thank you. 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:36.400 Well, I'm not sold on a roundabout because just the massive scale of what it would be in that area. 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:37.400 Right. 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:41.400 And the number of children. There's just going to be so many families. 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:49.400 You all have even been out there when they're doing football games and all of that. All of that's going to be taking place as well. 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.400 So on Saturday mornings, we're very, very busy. 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.400 With the parks. And that's another point that I didn't spend a lot of time focusing on. 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:11.400 It is in the presentation. It's bringing up with the new high school and with new drivers trying to navigate a complicated roundabout with a lot of school pedestrian traffic. 00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:19.400 It's not a good solution, but we can add that. I can separate that out and add in some statistics to pilot it. 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:27.400 So when this comes to council, I'm sure I'm going to not agree with it going forward. 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:42.400 But my question is about Windsor. That's going to be a very large... Are we planning on expanding that in any way? Two lanes? What's going on on Windsor? 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:55.400 So Windsor improvements are included with the Westgate project that's currently in design. We're bringing the design contract, I think on the 15th of council, to kick that off. 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:18.400 So Windsor, the way it's necked down over by 35. So Windsor's going to be expanded when we rebuild Westgate, when we connect Westgate and log away to a through path there. Windsor's also going to be expanded out to 35 to its current configuration instead of necking down the two lanes. 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:30.400 And with the textile I-35 expansion, they're also constructing an overpass, Windsor overpass, to bring it across 35 at that location. 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:51.400 So that's going to just seal up that corner, that space there on the east side of Monterrey and of course the west side of Monterrey. I'm just noticing some construction, I guess they're moving utilities or something over there on Windsor. 00:41:51.400 --> 00:42:19.400 So yeah, that's a sanitary sewer upsizing upgrade. So that's tied together with the sewer master plan, the wastewater master plan. That project's almost completed and that's related to the future utility improvements up around 288, 288, 77 and I-35 that corner. 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:39.400 Well that's, I didn't have any additional questions in that regard but I'm just, I'm not going to agree with it. We're just looking forward to having a really nice intersection here so we want to be pleased going through that way. Thank you. 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:57.400 Thank you, Sal. Appreciate the feedback and you will see it Tuesday at council. So we'll make some modifications to the presentation and move forward with bringing that to council on Tuesday. 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:12.400 Okay so we'll move on to EMC 22-031, Future Items for Mobility Committee Meeting 2022. 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:23.400 Alrighty. Thank you so much, Logan. So we don't have any additional items that you asked for from the last meeting, but do want to just kind of go through what's been on the standing agenda. 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:37.400 So Bonnie Bray, Kyle just did a great job of bringing you the update on Bonnie Bray Street. The Citywide Speed Study, I think we all know where that stands. We've had those conversations and that presentation was given on the 18th. 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:57.400 I will note what you will see coming back and Brett will be working on this with Ismael, our new transportation engineer, is the ordinances specifically related to the speed study and breaking that down into the school zone ordinance versus the ordinance to make the modifications to the roadways with the recommendation. 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:05.400 And that will not include the textile roadways at this point. So those ordinances you'll see come back, I believe, we currently have it slated for the December council meeting. 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:19.400 On Hickory Creek Road, Phase 3, we did provide an update in the September staff report. There are not a lot of updates to that besides construction has started and moving right along. 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:34.400 And then, of course, Ryan Road, same thing, we brought it back in September. And Ryan Road is still on hold until Hickory Creek gets to a point where the construction is to a point where we feel confident that we won't have both roads under construction at the same time. 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:40.400 I will mention that Ryan Road is a part of the Denton County bond trip 2022 package. 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:51.400 And then the TextDOT response, I just mentioned this, is that we've given all of that information to TextDOT. They told us it takes about six to eight months to receive the response on the citywide speed study. 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:55.400 And so we're going to be working through that with them. 00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:04.400 That's really what we had on the agenda. I don't know if there's anything else that you would like to bring to our attention that you'd like for us to bring back. 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:12.400 And Logan, I don't have the date for the November meeting on the top of my head, but I know November and December are going to be coming here before you know it and going to be fast. 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:24.400 So one of the things we will want to make sure is that there's something on the agenda that we need to bring back forward because if there's not, there may not be any reason even to hold one of the committee meetings. 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:33.400 So let's talk through that. And if I'm open to hearing what you have that you'd like for us to bring forward. 00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:39.400 I this is a direction. 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:47.400 The overlay project is that related to the Microsoft Microsoft. 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.400 It is now. Yes. Okay. 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:56.400 So how are you all going to be handling that situation. Sure. 00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:06.400 So Microsoft specifically we can bring back a detailed report, you will be receiving a staff report in this Friday's report. 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:15.400 Ethan Cox is the director of streets drainage and traffic and I along with several other staff members have been working through that from a contractual perspective. 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.400 And we will be bringing that forward. Like I said in that in a Friday report item. 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:31.400 I mean Ethan's also been in contact with the individuals that made the presentations to counsel on I guess to Tuesday nights ago. 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:44.400 So as far as that overall process, not only are we working to make sure that the contractor comes back and we've been holding the contractor accountable to the measures of which they're supposed to be constructing. 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:50.400 We also are looking at process improvements internally. And that's something that's being evaluated in a part of that overall. 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:55.400 I currently is an ISR may turn to an LSR as we work through that. 00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:02.400 But that should our anticipation is that will be in your Friday report this week. That's our goal. 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:12.400 Was this company nearly finished with that project or were they in the middle of it or were they just getting started when this presentation was done. 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:21.400 The contractor has been completed with the work for some time and the presentations that were brought forward are after the fact. 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:32.400 I've traveled some roads in my mind. I've said they should have done this road. Why was this road not done? 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:42.400 So would it be would it be OK for us to maybe go through it since we're kind of we're having to go back to the contract. 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:48.400 There are some roads out there that should have been included in this packet. 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:57.400 Yeah. So I will tell you with micro selling we're getting to the point where we're not going to be able to do additional construction when the temperatures get below 40. 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.400 You cannot do the construction. So we're at a very tight window holding the contractor accountable. 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:13.400 We're working to have them completed with everything by November 18th and we're actually meeting for the next three hours to go through this internally and then with the contractor on all of their improvement measures. 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:23.400 I would tell you there's particular criteria specifically related to the overall condition index to be used as a part of the overall micro selling. 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.400 That would be the same thing for crack sale, the same thing for mill and overlay. 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:35.400 So if there's particular red ways that you have questions about, I think the engaged in process is a fantastic way to submit that information. 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.400 Or if you have a list of women, you want to send it to the city manager's office for us to evaluate. 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:45.400 But I would tell you that any work to be completed would more than likely be something in next year's package. 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:54.400 And we would want to explain to you the reason why it's a micro sale versus a crack sale versus a mill and overlay as it meets the particular criteria. 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.400 Are you saying mill and overlay? 00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:57.400 Mill and overlay. 00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:58.400 And I-L-L. 00:48:58.400 --> 00:48:59.400 Mill. 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:00.400 I-L-L. 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:01.400 And. 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:02.400 And. 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:03.400 Mill and overlay. 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.400 Mill and overlay. 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:05.400 Okay. 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.400 Yes, I'm sorry. Sometimes I talk really fast and my text is slaying deads and out. 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:12.400 Can you tell me if my perception is accurate here? 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:13.400 Okay. 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:23.400 Because we, you know, staff came to us with a presentation about the micro seal project and explained OPI to us. 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:29.400 And we learned about what the criteria were. 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:35.400 And am I correct in my perception that the criteria just kind of weren't followed? 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.400 It was a process error basically? 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:44.400 There are some criteria and decisions that were made that we would like to improve in the future. 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:54.400 And there are some standards that we're working around what we feel to be the best practice from a best management practice as to move forward. 00:49:54.400 --> 00:50:01.400 But I will say that the majority of what we're working through right now is, you know, as always with anything, right? 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:08.400 We want to continuously improve and we want to make sure that we're adhering to the processes and procedures. 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.400 And some of those are things that we would like to document better, right? 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.400 So that's just a process and Ethan's working through those things. 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:24.400 But I would tell you in many of the cases too, the contractor did not perform to the level of accuracy that we're comfortable with. 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.400 And that's the reason why we're on week three of having a weekly meeting with them. 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:44.400 And so I would tell you that, you know, that's part of the process is making sure that the contractor is going back and completing the work in the way that we feel like is going to meet the expectation within the small time frame of window that we have. 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:52.400 And then of course next year Ethan and I both commit to making sure that it's done in a different manner. 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.400 Thank you. Thanks for handling that. 00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:00.400 I mean, hey, mistakes happen in every organization and all you can do is learn from them. 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.400 Absolutely. 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:10.400 You know, especially since roads are, you know, aside from safety, it's the number one topic of any complaint. 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.400 We're complaining when the roads are bad. 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.400 We're complaining when they're getting fixed. 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.400 And then we complain when they're fixed because people are driving too fast. 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.400 So it just all goes together. 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.400 Sure. 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:29.400 But I was just very curious about, you know, where we were in terms of, you know, correcting. 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.400 So you can answer that question. 00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:40.400 And I was certainly engaged in when I'm driving on the road, I'll be one of those people that will get out of my car and take a picture. 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:41.400 Sure. 00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.400 And just, you know, to note it. 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:50.400 Because I've driven down a few roads and I thought they didn't even get this road, they didn't even get that road. 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:51.400 Right. 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:52.400 So thank you. 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:53.400 Yeah. 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:56.400 I'm going to let Ethan add. 00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:02.400 I was just going to say to your last point about what's the plan for us to address some of the quality issues that we've seen. 00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.400 That is really the purpose of the meetings with our contractor the last few weeks. 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.400 And we're actually meeting with them, like Becky said today, to review their repair plans. 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:19.400 And so I think that is something that we're hoping to line out not just within the staff report, but also communications to the community for those roadways that do need some additional addressing. 00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:28.400 Did the city make the determination as to which roads were going to be done, or did we rely on this company? 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.400 No, that was performed by staff. 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.400 And I think that's where Becky's talking about. 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.400 There are some process improvements that we need to take a look at. 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:43.400 You know, generally the condition of the road is looked at in terms of prescribing maintenance and the type of maintenance that will be performed. 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:47.400 You know, for mill and overlay, you are looking at roads that are in good or better condition. 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.400 It's a preventative treatment. 00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.400 You put a surface on top of the roadway. 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:57.400 That's really there to preserve the underlying pavement, prevent oxidation, prevent water from penetrating it. 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.400 So I think, you know, in some cases when you look at a roadway, you say, "Man, that really needs some work." 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:07.400 For micro seal, you're really looking at smaller or moderate, you know, defects like small cracks. 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.400 Maybe it was patched because a utility was cut. 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.400 Those are the types of things that we would look at for micro seal. 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:20.400 And I think just kind of looking at the process moving forward is making sure, like Becky said, we have a solid process to follow. 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.400 It's documented well. 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:26.400 And then when we push this out to the community, make sure that they understand, yes, your roadway is in good condition. 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:34.400 This is a preventative measure so we can make sure that the roadway lasts as long as the -- we can extend the roadway's life as long as we can. 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:45.400 Just a common thought process would be more aesthetics than the actual safety feature of the road. 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.400 Thank you all very much. Did you have anything else? 00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:56.400 So I have, I guess, a question about -- so obviously 2181 is open now. 00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:09.400 I know I've reached out to you and also to the county tech stat engineer just with some questions about certain intersections and disability issues and whatever. 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:19.400 And so I know that there's going to be kind of an ongoing process of monitoring those intersections, seeing if any other changes or adjustments need to be made. 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:25.400 Obviously, that's not a city roadway, so if people have concerns about it, they should not put it in engage then. 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:26.400 They can. 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:27.400 Okay. 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:29.400 So let me talk to you a little bit about that. 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.400 So Travis and I, Campbell and I, the area engineer for the county have a great relationship. 00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:36.400 I'm sorry, for tech stat, have a great relationship. 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.400 He and I actually talked last night. 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:45.400 We typically, when we receive response from and engaged in that involves tech stat, we give specific contact information. 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:54.400 What he and I discussed last night, and I'm waiting on the information because Logan needs it, is actually providing not only the contact information and telephone number, 00:54:54.400 --> 00:55:00.400 they have a system similar to Engage Denton where people can submit and I'm waiting on that information. 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.400 And he's working to get that over to us. 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:09.400 He also has links to their standard process of projects that are either in the planning, design, or construction phase. 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:17.400 When you're talking specifically about 2181, and you may or may not be aware of this, any signal within the city of Denton, 00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:24.400 Ethan's team through Traffic Operations and James Andrews is responsible for, that's a collaboration that we do with tech stat. 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:34.400 And what I'd mentioned on 2181 is we've received a lot of feedback in regards to Cedar Creek, which is near Geyer High School, Sundown Ranch, 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:39.400 and then a couple of other intersections that the questions are about median cuts and signalization. 00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:48.400 It even came from our own police department and our safety resource officers that are at those high schools, or at the high school I should say. 00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:54.400 So we've worked on some collaboration. Brett's been a part of those signal conversations also. 00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:58.400 And there will be some additional signals that are added in some of those locations. 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:05.400 Now I say that to tell you Sundown and Cedar Creek we know for sure we're going to be adding signals too. 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:12.400 There are other areas where possibilities of signals might be needed, but what we will do in coordinate with tech stat, 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:22.400 and I think probably what you've heard is, we will be working through a process to evaluate the road, the safety of the road, 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:26.400 the speed of the road, the concerns we get, the complaints if there's crash data. 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:33.400 Anything that is a data resource that we can say this is not operating or functioning the way the intention was. 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:37.400 And then that's where we would do evaluations of we need to look at this intersection, 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:43.400 a study needs to be performed to make sure it meets warrants is what it is called for a signal. 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.400 And so there's multiple areas throughout 2181. 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:54.400 And actually I'll expand that to tell you that tech stat and ourselves will be meeting next week 00:56:54.400 --> 00:57:00.400 with Brett and Ethan and several other folks to actually talk specifically about signals 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.400 and areas of which we feel like there are additional signals that are needed. 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.400 There are a couple on 2499 that have come to our mind. 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.400 Brett is leading the entire program. 00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:18.400 So it's a collaboration and there's an actual what's called the Highway Safety Improvement Program that Brett is currently managing. 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:22.400 We're single and you're aware of this because this is from RTC. 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.400 But the HSIP program, we have a number of signals. 00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:32.400 One specific one that I know has been of interest is at Discovery Park and 77. 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.400 And so we do have the signal. 00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:38.400 It's currently in design and Brett's leading that. 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.400 But we will be installing a signal at that location along with four other locations. 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.400 But I tell you that to say that those have received the funding. 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:47.400 We're paying for the design. 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.400 The construction is something TechStat pays for up until a certain extent. 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.400 And then sometimes we have to kick in additional funding. 00:57:53.400 --> 00:58:00.400 But the approach we're going to use this year for submitting for new Highway Safety Improvement Program projects 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.400 is to actually involve TechStat on the areas and the PD on the areas 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:11.400 of which we've seen situations that maybe require or need an additional signal or large developments. 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:18.400 And we also are evaluating a list where certain developments are paying for a portion of a signal. 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.400 And so they've already put in some participation. 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.400 So that's something we could submit to say. 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.400 And I'm just using round numbers. 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.400 Development X already submitted $125,000. 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.400 The signal costs $600,000. 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.400 We're a fourth of the way there or whatever. 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:37.400 Can we get the other funding that's needed from TechStat? 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:41.400 So we've got several different areas and we're going to approach it a little bit differently this year. 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:42.400 That's great. 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:43.400 I'm really glad to hear that. 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:45.400 Very comprehensive answer. 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:46.400 That's fantastic. 00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:51.400 Any sense of so like if something that's not a signal issue. 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.400 I'll trust that signal issues are in the works. 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:57.400 Like, for example, someone emailed me with a concern about like a visibility issue. 00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.400 And I kind of just emailed that. 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:00.400 And he also emailed Travis. 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.400 And I think you emailed Travis Campbell about that. 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.400 And TechStat did something that took care of it. 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.400 Sure. 00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:14.400 Would you prefer that those types of concerns be sent in through TechStat's version of Engaged In? 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:18.400 You know, I think TechStat's preference would be that the sooner they know about a concern, 00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:23.400 the faster they can fix something, especially if it's a project in construction. 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.400 If I'm thinking about the one you were referring to where there were three concerns, 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.400 TechStat's working with the city on solutions in those areas. 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:33.400 Like a line of visibility issue? 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.400 Yes, a site issue. 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:38.400 And we actually met with them last Wednesday to go through all of those. 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.400 A couple of them have already been addressed or are working to be addressed. 00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:43.400 There's one additional one that's a little bit more difficult. 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:49.400 But that response has been given back by TechStat to the individual who brought that to their concern. 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.400 My apologies for just asking a question that's about my personal curiosity. 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.400 But what was done to address it? 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:55.400 Just because I don't even know. 00:59:55.400 --> 01:00:00.400 So in certain situations, if the sound wall was in the way, portions of the sound wall could be removed. 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.400 Or if in certain situations, a lot of times the line of sight is where the stop bar is, 01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.400 because that's where cars have to go to, the stop bar might be moved up. 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.400 But then we worry about the conflict with the pedestrian traffic. 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:17.400 So the stop bar might be moved up, but the pedestrian traffic might have to be rerouted. 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:23.400 And so I'll give you an example where we actually pushed the pedestrian traffic kind of at more of an angle 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:27.400 and then brought it back across and brought it back up so that we could move the stop bar forward 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.400 so you could see to get to the intersection. 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.400 So there's intersection design that goes into those types of conversations. 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.400 Okay, thank you for that. 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:37.400 Of course. 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:38.400 That totally answers my question. 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.400 Okay, perfect. So anything particular that you see as a future item to bring forward? 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.400 I don't think so. 01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.400 I mean, I even feel like the micro-sealed thing is fine for a Friday report for me. 01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.400 I agree as well. 01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.400 Okay, perfect. 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:58.400 So then I would say if anything comes up between now and maybe the week of Thanksgiving 01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:03.400 or the week before Thanksgiving, then we will look to add it to the agenda. 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:09.400 If not, then it might be a possibility that the November 30th meeting, we might skip the November 30th 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:10.400 and have the December. 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:11.400 I know you mentioned that. 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:12.400 We don't have a December 1. 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.400 We don't have a December 1. 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.400 But we do have to solidify a 2022 schedule at the next meeting. 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.400 So we have to have another one. 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:22.400 Okay. 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.400 But it may be just doing that. 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.400 We're here for a question for Ben, I guess. 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:33.400 Is that something that can just be done via email? 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.400 It typically has to take a vote. 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:36.400 Yeah. 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:37.400 Okay. 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:38.400 We'll come back. 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.400 We'll come back in November. 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:41.400 I'm fine with November. 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:45.400 I'm probably not going to be here, but if you would press the finger. 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.400 Well, since I have no light, I'll be here. 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:55.400 We can work through that, too, if there's something that can be done fairly quick through the process. 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:59.400 And, you know, of course, John can always bring an update. 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:03.400 And there may be something we decide that's a topic maybe that we could bring forward. 01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:04.400 We'll discuss it. 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:09.400 I'm thinking DCTA may also be here, but I'm not 100% on it. 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:10.400 Yeah. 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.400 So DCTA is trying to work to continue to bring you an update, too. 01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:19.400 We're working to sync up where, Councilmember McGuire, your update's not at the same time as theirs. 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.400 So there's different. 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.400 So we can work through that. 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.400 So we'll see. 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.400 And I think that that makes sense. 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:36.400 And we'll make sure we bring forward the calendar, too, so that we can get the calendar set for the 2023 calendar year. 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.400 It's hard to believe we're already talking about that. 01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:40.400 Well, then thank y'all. 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.400 If nothing else, I know we have the calendar, ITS report, possible DCTA. 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.400 And then we'll discuss internally if there's anything additional to bring forward. 01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:51.400 And we appreciate it. 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:56.400 Thank you. 01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:00.400 Well, we will close the meeting at 1110. 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:01.400 Thank you. 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:02.400 Thank you, everybody. 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:03.400 Thank you very much.