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 I'm on your list.

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 I'm on your list.

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 But you have to get that.

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 I'm on your list.

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 But you have to get that.

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 I'm on your list.

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 But you have to get that.

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 I'm on your list.

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 But you have to get that.

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 Do we need a list?

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 Do we need what?

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 Do we need a list?

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 List?

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 Oh, introductions?

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 I don't think we need to.

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 I don't think we need to.

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 But we'll introduce the staff

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 as they come up with their items.

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 But I think we can proceed to the first item, Mr. Chair.

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 Okay, I'll second it.

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 So, I guess all in favor would be the next step.

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 And we do have some staff members from Parks and Recreation here to present this item.

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 If you all would like to come up over here, we can get you going.

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 And I'll pull up your presentation, which is one of these.

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 Tamiya?

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 I'll literally do this.

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 There it is.

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 Okay, perfect.

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 All right.

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 Hello, everybody.

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 My name is Tamiya.

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 I'm the Adapted and Inclusive Recreation Coordinator for Parks and Rec.

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 I came and presented to you all in March, so this is a little bit of an update on what

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 we've been doing since then, as well as some new stuff that we're wanting to implement

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 and wanting to get some feedback from you all on.

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 So, yeah, today, so we're going to be going over the program update, what we've been

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 doing in Adapted Rec, how it's grown since I last presented, and our program brand recognition,

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 the areas identified for our improvement going forward towards the future, and some next

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 steps.

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 So our program update.

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 So our Adapted Rec program is programs specifically designed for individuals with disabilities,

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 both intellectual and physical.

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 We have a variety of programs.

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 So we have art classes, sports classes, socials, some dances.

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 We just added a tech class, and we've been doing that for a couple weeks.

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 And they've been growing and increasing consistently over the last year.

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 So currently, we're seeing about a 60% to 75% increase in participation.

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 Since March, we've expanded to get a new partnership with Dent ISD's High School Transition Program.

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 So we've been working with them for a little over a month now.

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 And then we also have some more community involvement.

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 So before, we were mostly working with people from group homes.

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 We have more individuals from our community that have been starting to come to our programs

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 now, which is really fun that it's growing outside of just those confined groups.

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 And so now we're servicing about 100-plus individuals now at this point.

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 So we've really kind of hit some great milestones since March.

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 So our Adapted Rec updates of what we have moving forward.

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 So we're going to be bringing on a Special Olympics program.

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 So this will be a competing team for adults anywhere past that transition age.

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 So since the ISD has a really great special education program,

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 they really have that school age group very well taken care of.

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 They have a lot of opportunities for them.

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 So we're really focusing on that transition age,

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 because that's what we've been getting some feedback on that it's lacking.

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 So adding that competition will kind of elevate it,

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 as opposed to just being a recreation-focused program.

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 And so we've also increased our UDLs in our centers and programs, so our universal design.

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 So we have been increasing our best practices as far as having more auditory and visual cues

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 across all of our programs, some things like that.

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 So just making those minor adjustments, that way somebody doesn't have to ask for those accommodations.

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 We kind of already have them integrated in.

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 And those are just useful for everybody, regardless of disability status.

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 And we've also, very excitingly, gotten some new equipment recently.

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 So this right here, it's a Freedom Chair, so it is an all-terrain wheelchair.

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 And the thing that's a little bit different from this one,

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 as opposed to some other ones that we've seen, is that this one,

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 these red levers right here, the user is able to push themselves.

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 So it allows for some more independence in programs,

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 rather than needing somebody to be pushing the chair themselves.

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 So that one, we just got it in last week,

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 and we're taking it on a test drive with one of our participants in a couple weeks.

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 So hopefully it works out well.

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 We tried it out in the parking lot, and it's great.

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 So we are excited to actually take it out to the trails and see.

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 And then we also, at North Lakes, got a non-motorized treadmill.

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 So this can help with people with an abnormal gait.

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 So then that way, they're setting their own speed and their own pace

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 and not having to match the treadmill.

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 The treadmill works for that.

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 So if y'all want to come by North Lakes and see, it's right whenever you walk in.

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 So that's pretty fun.

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 So our program, Brand Recognition, we are wanting to --

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 I mentioned this back in March,

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 but we've really kind of taken a little bit more steps towards it now.

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 But we are wanting to rename our Adapted Rec program

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 to have everything branded as AIR, A-I-R.

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 So Adapted and Inclusive Rec is what that stands for.

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 And by renaming and redesigning the play logo to go along with our AIR logo,

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 we're hoping that this makes programs easily recognizable as being disability-friendly.

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 And it connects the city's ADA programs to our Adapted Rec programs.

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 And we're also hoping that this is kind of a rebrand and a relaunch for our programs

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 for people who don't know that we're currently offering them,

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 that we'll kind of make this a big deal.

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 That way, we can let them know that we're having it.

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 So we're hoping to see a pretty good jump in numbers, hopefully, whenever that happens.

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 So moving on to our focus areas for process improvements.

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 So we have five areas that we're currently looking at.

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 So it is our accommodations request process,

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 our inclusion statement, staff training,

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 our Adapted Rec-specific program guidelines,

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 and then a participant intake form.

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 So these were all linked in a folder,

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 so hopefully y'all had a chance to take a look at those.

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 But I will be touching on some points on them.

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 And of course, if y'all have any questions, we can get those answered for y'all.

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 For our accommodations request.

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 So we are developing a formal process that the entire department will be using

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 for our accommodations whenever they are submitted.

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 So the way that this is going to help us is going to establish a way to respond to these requests

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 and have them answered in a timely manner

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 and make sure that the participant is letting us know ahead of time

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 that we need to do some extra training, get extra equipment that we have the time for that.

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 And it also designates responsibilities for each of these steps.

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 I'm one person, so it's kind of hard for me to be everywhere at once.

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 So hopefully if we can break this up, then it'll make it a lot smoother

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 and make sure that those requests are all getting got to in a timely manner.

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 And this also will include our best practices for document security and retention.

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 So this will be something that we work with tech services on

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 to either create a password protected file that only specific people have access to

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 or doing an online thing that way people's health and disability information is not well acknowledged.

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 So we'll be working with tech on that to make sure that all of that is secured in a way

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 that is best for us who needs to access the information

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 but also that the people providing the information feel well doing so.

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 Next is our Included Statement.

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 So this document is pretty long. It's about four pages.

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 So it's designed to set our departmental procedures.

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 So this covers everything from staff training, from what this looks like,

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 our future, how we're tracking the information.

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 It really covers everything for our inclusion.

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 And this is not just specifically disability inclusion,

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 but obviously that's a big part that we recognize needs some help.

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 So that is why it's included in this as well.

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 So like I said, this is a very long document.

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 So we have condensed it to have a public facing statement

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 that will be on the Parks and Rec landing page or website landing page.

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 So that way as soon as you click onto that Parks and Rec page,

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 it says, you know, it's like a three sentence short paragraph.

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 We're dedicated to inclusion in our programs.

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 And then it also will have the links for the accommodations request and for the ADA page link there.

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 So then that way everything's all nice and well rounded.

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 And then the full inclusion statement will also be linked below that.

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 That way people who are interested in the entire process have access to it.

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 So next for staff training.

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 So we're working on some standards of practice development and FAQs.

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 That way our staff has a very open door policy on coming

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 and being able to feel comfortable asking questions

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 so that they best know how to approach the community and provide for them the best that they need to be.

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 So we've already implemented quarterly training with the Texas Parks and Wildlife.

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 So this was one that we did back in the summer.

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 So we did one just dedicated to service animals and it was a very well rounded.

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 We got a lot of questions answered.

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 We got a great kind of grip on what our policy is as far as pets and service animals and all of that.

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 Their rights and this is all in accordance with ADA.

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 This was through their ADA office at Texas Parks and Wildlife.

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 And then ARPA has a parks for inclusion policy as well that we make sure that we're aligned with.

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 And then commit to inclusion is from another one.

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 I think that's its own movement, commit to inclusion.

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 So that one is also in public spaces.

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 So we also integrate those in a civil law.

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 So our adaptive rec specific guidelines.

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 So these, the outline increases some of our safety procedures that we didn't necessarily think of whenever we first brought back adaptive rec.

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 So it's some things that increase our safety measures for our staff as well as participants.

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 This includes some participant expectations.

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 And just making sure that our programs are best suited for the individuals coming to these.

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 And this would be provided during registration.

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 So just like our parks code of conduct is provided anytime that you register for a program, this would be along with those adaptive rec programs.

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 So the participant intake form.

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 This is a voluntary form that would be completed when registering for adaptive rec programs,

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 requesting program accommodations for specific programs in parks and rec.

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 And it is, this is also, it's two pages.

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 So this is just the first page.

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 So it would just be some general information, contact information, emergency contact information, demographic information.

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 And then this, these lines would be where you are requesting the specific accommodation.

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 So it would be, I need anything.

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 I need the all-terrain wheelchair to go on this program, things like that.

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 And then this is the health information part.

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 So this is where they can put what their disability is, that way we have a little bit more insight on how we can,

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 what accommodations we can offer if we can't complete their entire accommodation.

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 So this is just the request form.

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 So this is what we would use.

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 This is what would be document protected and only accessible to the individuals that need access for it.

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 Yes.

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 I have a question. Okay.

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 You said it was voluntary, but it includes really critical information like emergency contact.

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 So that sounds to me like it shouldn't be voluntary.

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 So our waiver that everybody in parks and rec has to fill out anytime that they're signing up for a program

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 already includes that information.

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 So this would just be something that way we can kind of match it up to their information in our system.

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 This wouldn't be the only emergency contact information.

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 So our next steps moving forward towards this.

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 So we are bringing this to y'all so that way y'all can give us some feedback on what y'all think we need to change,

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 add, take away, anything like that.

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 And then after we kind of get the thumbs up from y'all, we move on to our department review.

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 This would go to our internal higher ups.

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 So they make sure that they think it sounds great, think that it's something that's worth implementing.

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 And then it would go to legal.

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 So as it is now, it has not been reviewed by legal, but a lot of the documents are taken from or have inspiration from

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 other cities or other current parks and rec documents.

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 So I'm hoping that it's not too far off from what legal would already be approving.

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 Following legal review, it would go to the Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board.

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 So this is once they adopt it, then we start implementing it pretty much right away.

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 So depending on how long this process takes, it could be a few months still,

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 but we're hoping that we're able to get this out rolled out fairly soon.

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 And then we would be able to start more department training and implementation,

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 making sure that everybody across the department is on the same board.

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 Any questions? Yes, ma'am.

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 You mentioned about this database about information that people are voluntary.

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 So I've been wondering if it would be useful for us to get a general database about who are we serving?

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 Who is our committee serving with people with disabilities?

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 And I wondered if that would be information that they could be asked to let us have or what do you all think?

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 Do you all think that that's information that would be useful to us or not?

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 I think it has some practicality to it, but I believe that each division or department within the city

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 is able to point their people to the right resources in order to do that.

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 For me personally, I don't think that I need to know who we're serving,

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 but that we're making services available for whomever we need.

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 That's just me. Yeah, I appreciate that.

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 And we will be using the information and the data provided to track,

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 that way we can kind of see the trends on what specific accommodations are being requested,

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 get a kind of a grasp on what disabilities are most prevalent in our community,

00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:37.000
 that way we can add that to our best practices that's already integrated in our programs.

00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:42.000
 I can add, and maybe this is more of a request than I'm just kind of dropping on Parks and Rec right now,

00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:48.000
 but as this program is rolled out and you do get that information on the types of accommodations that are being requested,

00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.000
 that can always be something that, depending on how quickly they come in,

00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:58.000
 on a quarterly or twice a year basis, that could be reported to this committee,

00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:03.000
 so you have a better understanding of what the needs are in the community,

00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:08.000
 or at least insofar as they are for parks programs.

00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.000
 So I have a question. Being relatively new on this committee,

00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:19.000
 is there a way for the community to reach us directly to communicate needs,

00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.000
 to give feedback on these services that we're offering?

00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.000
 I agree that we don't necessarily need to know each individual,

00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:36.000
 but I do personally think that it's important to work constantly in communication with the community that we're serving,

00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.000
 and letting those voices be primary and first.

00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.000
 So is there a system?

00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.000
 When you say, you mean the committee?

00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:48.000
 Well, not the committee, but just the way that those who are using the services can give us feedback,

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:54.000
 maybe continue to put in requests, and not just through parks and recreation,

00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:59.000
 but all of the kind of projects that we're involved in, and even in any potential future projects.

00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:06.000
 I think I understand. Yes, so I would always encourage them, you know, all of your city email addresses,

00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.000
 and that's one of the reasons we shifted to using city email addresses,

00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:15.000
 was that so people could reach out to you as a member of a public body

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 to express any concerns, desires, questions, hopes, dreams, and they can do that to you guys directly.

00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:29.000
 We do post that information on our website, to be quite frank, it's not on the main page.

00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:32.000
 You do have to go down a couple of layers to get it,

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 but that is the best way I think for people to directly reach out to committee members

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 that deal in the issues that are important to them.

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 And absolutely, I think that it's very important that they do reach out to you and speak to you,

00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:54.000
 and you are appointed by the council to be representatives and speak for the disability community on this body,

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 and the more that you are engaged with them and they're engaged with you,

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 the better discussions and directions we set here. So, absolutely. Thank you.

00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:10.000
 And I think it is working with the city emails because I received a communication of concerns

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 from a parent of a child in another school district outside the city of Dill,

00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:21.000
 and so I was just able to reach back to her and give her some tips on next steps, whatever,

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 and I thought that was pretty amazing that her need was that significant

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 that she would reach out into another city to look for help.

00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:41.000
 I had a question. You mentioned Special Olympics opportunities,

00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:48.000
 because I know with COVID a lot of our Special Olympics for our people out of high school cratered,

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 and I think that's come back for the most part.

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 So, it would be neat if there was coordination through the city,

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 because it's more likely to continue on and have some we've maintained.

00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.000
 How would we find out about that?

00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:11.000
 I mean, more speaking as a parent of someone who is in Special Olympics and everything,

00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:16.000
 like the bowling and the track and all that other stuff, they just sort of fizzled out.

00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:22.000
 Yeah, whenever we start all those programs officially, they'll all be on the Adapt Direct page on the city website,

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 and then I'm sure that we can have a way to have those on the Parks and Rec catalog as well,

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 and hopefully in the next play guide we can have that information in there as well.

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 So, we're in area 11 for Special Olympics,

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 and so we've been working with them to try and get some of their programs hosted up in Denton.

00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.000
 That way we can kind of spread the word that way.

00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:54.000
 A couple weeks ago we had a town hall meeting for Special Olympics that was hosted at North Lake Shark Center,

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 so that kind of was our first "we're going to be starting a program, come to our facility."

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 And we are also working with our athletics department to host a tennis tournament in April,

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.000
 the Special Olympics tennis tournament.

00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.000
 That way, as our program is growing, we can get some other people here.

00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:15.000
 That way we're recognized as a Special Olympics city.

00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:23.000
 Well, I'd like to commend you on increasing your participation to 500-plus.

00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:26.000
 I think that's amazing.

00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:31.000
 And reaching out to the transition group.

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 I have a question, and I may have missed this, so I apologize.

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 If a participant or a parent has a child that maybe has a disability

00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.000
 that's, you know, they would participate in a normal setting,

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 but they just need some accommodations that are between them and the coach or whoever,

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:58.000
 how is that presented, either in the catalog or online, so like, "Oh, here's the form where you can request this."

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:02.000
 Like, is it clear, like, that service is available and how to access it?

00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:07.000
 So, whenever we get all this implemented, so that would be very publicly listed.

00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:13.000
 So, it would be in the catalog, we could have how we have that shorter version that will be on the website.

00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:17.000
 We can have an even shorter version that's sent out on all of our emails.

00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:24.000
 That way people know, you know, any accommodations request, go to the Parks and Rec page for that.

00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:28.000
 And that way, yeah, and that's what that accommodations request form is designed for,

00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:34.000
 is people that can participate in the traditional programs, but just need one or two extra things.

00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.000
 Or if you had somebody that had a visual impairment or a hearing impairment,

00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:42.000
 but they wanted to go to a class that we can get them, you know, "Hey, come 30 minutes early.

00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.000
 We'll go over what we're going to be doing today."

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:49.000
 That way you can follow along with the, you know, limited sensory input that you're getting.

00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:59.000
 So, that's what that accommodations request is really designed for outside of the adaptive rec specific classes.

00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:05.000
 I would just, you know, make sure it's obvious because that's so easy when there's so much information in this.

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.000
 That's what they're looking for.

00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.000
 And if you have to go to so many different pages, then it gets hard for them.

00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.000
 Which is why we were prioritizing putting it on the Parks and Rec homepage,

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:19.000
 rather than a lot of cities that already have implemented this, they have it under their adaptive rec.

00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:23.000
 But if you don't particularly know what adaptive rec is or don't know to look there,

00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.000
 then it's hard to find those request forms and those guidelines.

00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:31.000
 So, that's why it is such a priority for us to put it right on the landing page.

00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:35.000
 That way as soon as you click there, it says, "We're committed to inclusion.

00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.000
 If you need anything, let us know."

00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.000
 That way we can get it rather than you having to jump through hoops to get those accommodations.

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.000
 Could it also be like where you pay?

00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:50.000
 Like, because a lot of people pay online, like another reminder, like, yeah, that'd be good.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:59.000
 And yeah, we can implement that into either adding it to our parks code of conduct,

00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.000
 that we can have something in there, or on the receipt have that it says, you know,

00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.000
 if you need accommodations for this program, contact so-and-so.

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.000
 That way we have it, yeah, kind of listed everywhere.

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.000
 That way no matter if you're already registered, if you're looking to register,

00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:17.000
 if you're looking online, if you're at the rec center, then you can get it accommodated.

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.000
 You can't miss it, that's why.

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.000
 So what would be a reasonable time frame for someone to place an accommodation?

00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:32.000
 So what we're potentially looking at, which this could change in the few weeks after ruling this out,

00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:38.000
 is about two weeks usually gives us enough time for the participant to register.

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:43.000
 And it would also depend on the timeline that we set internally as for getting it,

00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:48.000
 making sure that, you know, you have two days for us to see your request,

00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:53.000
 and then it'd be reaching out to the instructor and then figuring out what the accommodation,

00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:58.000
 if we can accommodate, if we have kind of a bounce back for it.

00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:04.000
 And then that also hopefully will give us enough time to set up a time if it needs to be extra time,

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:09.000
 if it needs to be a pre-meeting for the program, or also getting equipment ordered.

00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:13.000
 So that equipment order part would kind of be what changes your timeline.

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:18.000
 Some equipment takes a while, some we can get off Amazon and get it tomorrow.

00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.000
 So you might want to put a little statement on the form that especially equipment is needed

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.000
 that might increase the amount of time to respond or to provide.

00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:34.000
 Is there a place where your adaptive equipment is listed,

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:39.000
 where people can go and look and see what y'all have currently?

00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:44.000
 Not currently. Our equipment is a little scattered.

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:49.000
 So it might be hard to have a, you can come and see what we have.

00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.000
 We might be able to have a online catalog that way if they reach out,

00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.000
 then we could say we already have an all-terrain wheelchair.

00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.000
 We already have grip assist gloves. We already have foot straps for equipment.

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:05.000
 So then that way we could easily and quickly answer those rather than kind of running around to see,

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.000
 does somebody have this?

00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:12.000
 Yeah, I was thinking that somebody might, like someone that has a disability,

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:18.000
 might go to the page and be like, oh, you know, oh wow, I could do it if I had this thing that they already have.

00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:25.000
 That they might not know about if they haven't had exposure to a recreation therapist in the past.

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:32.000
 Yeah. So we're hoping that in instances like that, also them reaching out, we could, if they don't know what equipment they might need,

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.000
 then we could also say, well, it sounds like this might work best for you,

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:41.000
 which is where on the request form where we would like for them to list the request,

00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.000
 but then also list a little bit about their abilities.

00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:50.000
 That way we can kind of say, you know, given this is your diagnosis, these are your abilities,

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:55.000
 this specific request accommodation might work better than the one that you requested.

00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.000
 Okay, good.

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.000
 Yeah.

00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.000
 Good.

00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.000
 Any questions?

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:05.000
 Yeah, if you all have any other questions or need any more information,

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.000
 I'm like a crazy person with my email, so I'm always on that.

00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.000
 So feel free to reach out that way.

00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.000
 I don't really answer my office phone because I'm never in there.

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.000
 So that's probably not the best way to get in contact with me.

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.000
 Thank you all for letting me present to y'all.

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.000
 Thank you.

00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.000
 Are you excited to be here anymore?

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:24.000
 Absolutely.

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.000
 Good report.

00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:35.000
 I want to try the cherry now.

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:36.000
 Oh, yeah, we can get you out there.

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.000
 Oh, you want to try the cherry now?

00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.000
 Yeah.

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.000
 It's pretty fun.

00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.000
 I'm sure he will.

00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.000
 We do need to get anti-tick bars for it because I fell off of it.

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.000
 It was going up a pretty steep hill.

00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.000
 You need to let me put a GoPro on you and we can just do the whole thing.

00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:56.000
 Would it work for you when you're at the market every Saturday?

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.000
 Does this work okay?

00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.000
 Yeah.

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.000
 Okay.

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.000
 He's got some pretty wide meals.

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.000
 Yeah, it works.

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.000
 Unless it's money, money.

00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.000
 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.000
 Here you go.

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.000
 Thank you.

00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.000
 Thank you.

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.000
 The next item on them, there's nothing on them anymore.

00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.000
 Do what?

00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.000
 There's nothing on them.

00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.000
 No action item on that one.

00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.000
 The rest are not action items.

00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:35.000
 The next item on them is on me.

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:44.000
 All right, so I know you guys are clamoring for really important, interesting stuff, so

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:50.000
 I brought you a policy discussion today, so get excited.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.000
 You're stuck with me for the rest of the meeting.

00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.000
 All the rest of these things are mine.

00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:59.000
 I wanted to broach this topic with the committee.

00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:04.000
 Those who are on the committee from its inception know that there was concern on the committee

00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:10.000
 at a certain point in time to seize ADA policy with respect to our ADA coordinator.

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.000
 We actually, per policy, have three coordinators.

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.000
 One is a representative from HR.

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.000
 One is a representative from, I guess, it's probably my first slide.

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.000
 Maybe not.

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.000
 One is a representative from Streets, who is Nathan, who's been here several times.

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.000
 And one is a representative from our facilities department.

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.000
 Those are outlined and enumerated in our policy.

00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:39.000
 And what we've kind of found that as this body and the city has been a little bit more

00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:46.000
 involved in kind of setting up our disability framework, how we take in accommodation requests,

00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:53.000
 what our grievance process is, that the policy we have may not meet what our needs are.

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:58.000
 So just getting the background out of the way, this is a policy that you can see online.

00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:03.000
 It's policy 100.02, so if you navigate to our government heading and go down to policies

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.000
 and procedures, it's right there.

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.000
 We do have three ADA coordinators.

00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:13.000
 The policy is pretty well focused on employment matters, which is pretty typical for a lot of cities.

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.000
 Not too many of them have a separate ADA policy.

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.000
 Some do, but many do not.

00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:25.000
 We really realized some practical challenges with having three ADA coordinators.

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:31.000
 The first of which, it really does not provide a lot of clarity on if you have an accommodation

00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:35.000
 need for programs or services, who is your point person.

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:42.000
 Now, we may have a specific point person if you specifically want a parks program accommodation.

00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.000
 We're setting up a process for that.

00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.000
 Or if you're in a library and you need an accommodation right then and there, but for

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:53.000
 general accommodations for the city, related to maybe a number of programs that are not

00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:58.000
 specific to one single department, we don't have a person outlined for that, or it doesn't

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:03.000
 seem like there is one, which maybe one of those folks could kind of take the ball and

00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.000
 carry it, but to the person, the member of the public who's requested an accommodation,

00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.000
 it may seem like we just don't have that person.

00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:18.000
 Additionally, when you have three ADA coordinators and none of them has ownership over programs

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:22.000
 and services, you kind of get into the practical problems of, okay, we have an accommodation

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.000
 request, we have a question, we have something that has come to us, who's taking this?

00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:35.000
 And that can cause some delays and miscommunication, which on a good day just kills time, which

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:40.000
 maybe needed time, but on a bad day, it really miscommunicates to the member of the public

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.000
 and it doesn't seem like we have really a plan in place for how to provide them what

00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.000
 they need.

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:53.000
 So we sat down and we discussed a slight change to this policy where we essentially go down

00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:59.000
 to two ADA coordinator roles, it's bifurcated, that might seem like we're not making much

00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:04.000
 of a dent in our problem, but we would essentially have one person to coordinate everything employment

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.000
 related, so if you are an employee or you're an applicant for employment with the city

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.000
 of Denton, this is your route, this is your person, we have a specific process for that.

00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:19.000
 And then we established an ADA coordinator for everything else, and their main role would

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:24.000
 essentially be to coordinate, so they would not have to be necessarily the expert like

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:31.000
 Nathan is with streets, or say someone on a facilities team is with our buildings, or

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.000
 say someone on parks is with their programs, this person would be there to just make sure

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:42.000
 the process runs efficiently and make sure that we as an organization are continually

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.000
 improving to provide services that are accessible to all.

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:51.000
 And they would be, there would be no confusion on who all the questions go to, provided they're

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:56.000
 not related to employment, and there would be no question on who the complaints or the

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:00.000
 grievances go to and who's running those processes.

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.000
 I feel like, we felt like this provided a lot of, a lot more clarity to the public,

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.000
 you as committee members, if someone presents you with an issue, you would say well you

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.000
 need to go talk to this person right here, here's that person's email address.

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.000
 And that would also make sure that that person is also accountable, so if that person you're

00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:27.000
 talking to does not get their issue resolved, or is not, they don't get a response when

00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:32.000
 they reach out, we know exactly who's responsible and who's accountable for that process.

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:40.000
 So, our benefits are with really kind of having that new setup where it's a one for employment,

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.000
 one for everything else.

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.000
 It helps the internal coordination, it provides that public clarity, and the way we would

00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:55.000
 set it up is, it would be a city manager designee, so it wouldn't be tied to one specific position,

00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.000
 not one specific department.

00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.000
 We're going to make sure the best candidate for that job is in that role, someone who

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:09.000
 understands or has capacity to learn more and engage with ADA issues, accessibility

00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:15.000
 issues, disability issues, so that we can not have to be kind of tied to someone in

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.000
 facilities or someone in streets as our policy outlines.

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.000
 So, that's my presentation, three slides guys.

00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.000
 But that's the direction we want to go.

00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.000
 What our concern is, what we wanted to bring it up to you guys is any unintended consequences,

00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.000
 because any time you mess with the policy, there could always be some unintended consequences

00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:39.000
 that we don't realize, or are we not going far enough.

00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:43.000
 But we wanted to have a conversation with this committee to make sure that we are heading

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:47.000
 in the right direction, and I'll show that now.

00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.000
 Well, from being on the committee from the very beginning, this is a very positive, good

00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.000
 move, because this has been my concern about ADA coordination.

00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.000
 It's good for the city internally, that needs to happen.

00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:08.000
 But public facing, those individuals, we're going to get the runaround from one person

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.000
 to the next person to the next person.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:16.000
 So, I'm glad to see that you're trimming it down so that citizens have a more direct

00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:23.000
 contact for addressing their needs for involvement within the city.

00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:29.000
 So, for me, that's a very good move.

00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:35.000
 Is the complaint or grievance process, or if there is one, is that clearly where the

00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:41.000
 public can find it, and then what is that process is my next question, and the reason

00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:47.000
 I'm going there is because usually if there's a grievance process through any place, then

00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:53.000
 there's going to be some type of formal setting, and it's like, so is that coordinator person

00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.000
 going to then delegate who sits down at that first meeting, or is that person?

00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:03.000
 I just want to make sure under federal, state, law, whatever, we're doing everything we're

00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:07.000
 supposed to be doing, and it's not confusing when it gets into the process, if that makes

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.000
 sense.

00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.000
 Well, and I'll kind of walk you through.

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:19.000
 We do have everything housed at cityofdent.com/ADA, and so this is essentially our ADA webpage

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.000
 where we house most of our information.

00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:25.000
 We do have our grievance process.

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.000
 At another point, email the ADA coordinators.

00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.000
 It's not a single person.

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.000
 It'd be great to have email.

00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.000
 Sandy, our ADA coordinator, it's a specific person with a name and a phone number.

00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:45.000
 But we do have an area where you can get information on requesting an accommodation, and then we

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.000
 do have an area toward the bottom on complaints and procedure.

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:56.000
 You can submit a grievance online if you want to, but in our grievance procedures, we do

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.000
 line that out.

00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:03.000
 It's based and kind of borrowed from resources provided by the Department of Justice.

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:10.000
 We didn't want to make too many modifications to it, although if we start getting a lot of

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.000
 grievances and we find that the process doesn't work, we certainly will, and that would be

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.000
 something that would get brought back to this committee.

00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:23.000
 But I would say if anyone on this committee or anybody that you know has experience with

00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.000
 grievance processes, either as administering them or being a person to go through that

00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.000
 process, and they want to take a look at this and they find something that could be better,

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.000
 I think we're always happy to hear that.

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.000
 A process is always good.

00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.000
 A procedure is always good until it's tested.

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:45.000
 And so that's when you kind of find where the issues can lie.

00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:52.000
 I'm always good for feedback, so we like to tweak things when we do that.

00:38:52.000 --> 00:39:01.000
 I think if you stick with the federal outline for grievances, that can go wrong, and that

00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.000
 the city just has a way to help that individual facilitate that process.

00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:15.000
 And when you go through this, you'll see that it does outline 15 calendar days.

00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.000
 You know, we had to make some modifications because this is ACD 88, so we would say, you

00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.000
 know, if we make this policy change, we'd have to update it.

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.000
 You know, another 15 calendar days related to a complaint appealed to the city manager

00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:34.000
 or designee, and so it's pretty specific in outlining, although I don't want to sit

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.000
 here and tell you that it's flawless at all.

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:42.000
 We've not, since we rolled it out, we've not received a grievance through this process.

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.000
 Quite frankly, I hope we don't.

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.000
 Has your legal department looked into it?

00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.000
 I mean, I'm an attorney and I do these schools, you know, so it's like, there has to be something

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.000
 that either are from other cities or somebody they can talk to to know that, yeah, this

00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.000
 is normal.

00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.000
 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.000
 But my concern would just be that I think I like it the way you divided it with HR and

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.000
 then having one person delegate.

00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.000
 And as long as it looks like it's worded pretty well or they can be delegated from there.

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:16.000
 So, you know, the designee.

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.000
 It takes your question.

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.000
 It did go through our legal department.

00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.000
 Well, then it's probably fine.

00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:27.000
 Mike's not here, so I can't get back to you.

00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.000
 So that's, that's where we want to go.

00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:38.000
 I do have, I'm a little concerned about losing possibly the expert, the street expertise,

00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:44.000
 but would this person still be ADA slash bicycle pedestrian coordinator?

00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:50.000
 So I'm not sure to what extent his title would change, but those folks who are the subject

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.000
 matter experts would still be involved in the process.

00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:58.000
 They would, they would be brought in for those items where they have that specific area of

00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.000
 expertise.

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:04.000
 So Nathan, you know, he would still be here probably on a regular basis talking about

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.000
 ADA issues as they relate to streets and sidewalks.

00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:13.000
 And if we did get a question or a complaint come in that's related to streets or sidewalks

00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:18.000
 or pedestrian issues, the coordinator, that would be, Nathan would be the first person

00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.000
 that the coordinator would, would reach out to and they would coordinate a response together.

00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:28.000
 So the coordinator wouldn't, isn't necessarily the subject matter expert, but the coordinator

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:34.000
 makes sure, is there to make sure that the process works and works as it should, that

00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.000
 people get their responses.

00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.000
 And also as someone to look out to make sure that we as an organization have things in

00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:50.000
 place so that we are appropriately trained, but that our systems to meet the needs of

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.000
 people who have disabilities are working.

00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:55.000
 And it's hard to do that.

00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.000
 It's hard to have that level of accountability with three people.

00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.000
 But will they, will it still be a joint position?

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:08.000
 You don't know that with the bicycle pedestrian?

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.000
 No, no, I think that probably if we, if we establish a policy, one ADA coordinator is

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.000
 not my, he would still be the bicycle pedestrian coordinator.

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.000
 His title might just get a little shorter.

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:19.000
 Okay.

00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:23.000
 But I think the nature of what he does relating to ADA, it would, would not change.

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:24.000
 Okay.

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.000
 Make sense?

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.000
 Okay.

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:27.000
 Thank you guys.

00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:40.000
 [inaudible]

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:56.000
 [inaudible]

00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.000
 Okay.

00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:03.000
 So we did this last year where at the beginning of the, kind of at the turn of the year, I

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:11.000
 should say, we brought forward a, there we go, kind of a discussion on it for this group

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:17.000
 to help us set our path for the next fiscal year in terms of what this body would like

00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:18.000
 to discuss.

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.000
 What issues are important to you?

00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.000
 It was incredibly helpful with staff, kind of knowing what your priorities are so we could

00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.000
 line those discussions up and make sure that you were getting the information you needed.

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.000
 And I'd like to do that again.

00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.000
 Since we are not quite the whole committee today, we may bring this item back again next

00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.000
 time just to make sure we get full input.

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:46.000
 But the, the goal of this is, is to help set that, that plan for next year.

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.000
 I think everyone can probably maybe, maybe do without this slide, but I'll do it anyway.

00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.000
 So this committee was created in 2018.

00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.000
 It got started in earnest in early 2019.

00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:04.000
 And under, under its enabling ordinance, it's really to advise the city and advise the city

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.000
 council in areas including disability concerns, accessibility accommodations.

00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:14.000
 You know, I'll have another slide that kind of goes through the specifics, but it generally

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.000
 applies to city projects and activities, but not necessarily does it have to.

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:24.000
 So we can have some other outside entity come in and speak on some topic.

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:32.000
 But, you know, the city may or may not have the ability to, to, to have that other entity

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.000
 do anything specific.

00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.000
 So under the charges of committee, and this is in the enabling ordinance, the committee

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:45.000
 can really talk about and discuss and decide and vote on a lot.

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.000
 You're here to be an advisory body for staff and one for council as well, should the need

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:51.000
 arise.

00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:56.000
 And it's everything from, from infrastructure like sidewalks and ramps to our transition

00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.000
 plan, which we have presented on before.

00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.000
 Adaptive accessible parks.

00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.000
 We've had some park discussions here in the last year.

00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.000
 New facilities, which we don't have too many of those coming on, but existing facilities

00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.000
 certainly.

00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.000
 Talked about the library at the last meeting.

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:14.000
 Signage.

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.000
 Parking lot rehab projects.

00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.000
 Seems very niche, but that was mentioned in the ordinance.

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:27.000
 I think the biggest area in my mind of opportunity are improving city operations.

00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:34.000
 So our programming, how do we make things that we do, the services we provide more accessible

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:39.000
 and kind of increase the connections that we have with those who have disabilities and

00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.000
 disability community.

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.000
 And improving operations with other entities.

00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:51.000
 I think early on we had at least twice, maybe three times you've had DCTA come in on different

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:52.000
 topics.

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.000
 And then of course, just like you received today, parks and rec adaptive rec activity.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:03.000
 So, and I wanted to kind of provide this to you guys to just kind of share how broad your

00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:04.000
 scope is.

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.000
 It is not terribly narrow.

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:11.000
 Y'all did give staff some areas of interest from the last time we had this discussion

00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:17.000
 about a year ago for what we would focus on in the fiscal year 2022 timeframe.

00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.000
 Adaptive rec was one of them.

00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:20.000
 We just had that conversation.

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.000
 We had to wait on that one because we did not have an active rec coordinator.

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.000
 We lost one during the pandemic.

00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.000
 We talked about, Bob came in and talked about the emergency management plan.

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.000
 We've had several sidewalk discussions.

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.000
 Mobility projects have come in as they've come up.

00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.000
 We've had a number of park projects.

00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.000
 We did have a conversation on special events and disabilities.

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.000
 We did have an ADA plan follow up conversation.

00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.000
 And then you did early on, you got a website update because we rolled that out about a

00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.000
 year ago.

00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:55.000
 A couple that we've not gotten to, sheltering during emergencies.

00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.000
 We haven't gotten that one ready to bring forward yet.

00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:03.000
 And the 311 system, unfortunately, is not quite close to implementation yet.

00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:07.000
 So that one's still a number of months off.

00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.000
 But what I'm hoping to at least start the conversation today is to just hear from you

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:19.000
 what is important to you guys that you agree needs to be discussed or should be discussed

00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:24.000
 in the next year, knowing that things that we can't anticipate will come up and we'll

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.000
 get those in as best as we can.

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:31.000
 And that's kind of where I'm going to stop talking and just open it up to the committee.

00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:38.000
 What issues would you like to talk about in the next year?

00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:44.000
 Bring back special events?

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:50.000
 Bring back special events?

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:59.000
 Oh, so special events, events that the city, so we have a special event process.

00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:04.000
 We have large events that the city that run through that process, think arts and jazz,

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.000
 which I think is this weekend.

00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:11.000
 And that all the way down to a number of smaller scale events.

00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.000
 But those are things that the city coordinates or they partner with.

00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:21.000
 And when we had that discussion last time, they were at the beginning stages of making

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:27.000
 improvements to the policy to make recommendations and then leading into kind of more stringent

00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:31.000
 guidelines that you were going to ask the city to partner with you or you're going to

00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.000
 be using city facilities for an event.

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:38.000
 You need to have these things in line with regarding accommodations.

00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.000
 So they got some initial feedback from the committee in that presentation.

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:48.000
 They are scheduled at this point to come back for a follow up in November.

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:55.000
 So that was, I'm not sure if you were there, but that's kind of the level of it.

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.000
 It's anything that goes through our process because they're using public street or they

00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:06.000
 are using a city facility or they're using city resources or city park.

00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:13.000
 Basically, you're doing something that uses the city's money or stuff.

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:19.000
 Well, I've got a few things that were my concern for the coming up here.

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:26.000
 The first one is GoZone, and I would really like for us to get a good idea.

00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:33.000
 I was thinking maybe we could do just a simple online survey to get feedback from people

00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:43.000
 with disabilities about are they able to get a vehicle that has a wheelchair accommodation.

00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:51.000
 I'd read just different things that people will post online and I hear a lot of frustration

00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:57.000
 about, you know, I felt like when the woman came and talked to us, everything sounded

00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:04.000
 great that she was proposing, but I did not find it to actually pan out.

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:09.000
 And I am very concerned about our public transportation and accessibility,

00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:14.000
 which for the buses wasn't really any issue.

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:19.000
 And that's a concern of mine because I see the vehicles, but there are individuals, I

00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:24.000
 believe, that are in wheelchairs that are especially built for specific posturing and

00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:32.000
 what have you, that they cannot be out of the wheelchair to sit in the vehicle to transport

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.000
 from point A to point B. And I think we asked that question.

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.000
 I never heard a resolution for that.

00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.000
 So, yes, GoZone is concerning.

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.000
 Okay.

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.000
 Perfect.

00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:54.000
 I've seen people being picked up too in situations that are not safe, disabled and disaster

00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.000
 away from happening if something had gone wrong.

00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.000
 And I've noticed many, many bus stops are no longer available.

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.000
 I mean, they just say this is closed.

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.000
 I think I've seen more closed than one that's open.

00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.000
 So that is a major concern.

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.000
 And I know it's not a city issue, but the bus does go through the city.

00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:21.000
 Well, and we can invite DCTA to come and this body has questions, has concerns.

00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:26.000
 Yeah, they had talked about it when they did the presentation.

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:34.000
 They talked about people that need, that couldn't leave their wheelchair to get in.

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000
 They talked about having access from like behind.

00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.000
 And we were discussing, well, how would that work?

00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:44.000
 And, you know, where are they going to be loading?

00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.000
 And is it going to be safe and all that kind of stuff?

00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.000
 And that doesn't seem to be the case.

00:51:50.000 --> 00:52:00.000
 We can reach out to them and try to find one of our meeting dates or any of our

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.000
 discuss your own meeting dates for the next year.

00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:05.000
 We'd like to have you come in and talk about it.

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:06.000
 Okay, that'd be great.

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.000
 Okay.

00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.000
 And voting equity is another one.

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:16.000
 I'm concerned with some of -- oh, I'm sorry, Joe.

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:34.000
 What is the legal problem of people riding on in their chair on the bus?

00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.000
 People riding in the chair on where?

00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.000
 On the bus.

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:41.000
 On the bus.

00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:46.000
 On the GoZone.

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:55.000
 Is it legal for people riding in their chair on the GoZone?

00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.000
 On the GoZone.

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.000
 The bus on the ground.

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:03.000
 It should be on the bus.

00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:07.000
 Yeah, the bus accommodates, but I don't believe the GoZone does.

00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:17.000
 I don't know when I need the vans in my chair.

00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.000
 We can -- well, I think we need to frame it today.

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:27.000
 Yes, if they have specific vehicles that will say to transport individuals in their wheelchair.

00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.000
 Yeah, like span and -- I want to say both access and span.

00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.000
 They come to my son's rehab and there are a couple people that stay in their wheelchair

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:45.000
 and then go on wheelchairring.

00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.000
 And then voting equity is another one.

00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.000
 I'm concerned with some of the laws that have been passed and it's going to be more difficult

00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:04.000
 for people with disabilities to vote for absentee voting, and I'm very concerned about that too.

00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.000
 So I would -- just a simple question.

00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:14.000
 Is that something where you would see this as just to have a discussion to better understand

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.000
 what the law -- what it does and doesn't allow?

00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:21.000
 Or are you thinking that you might make a recommendation?

00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:28.000
 Well, I would like to hear about what is allowed and what isn't.

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:33.000
 What is actually -- from people that are actually running elections.

00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:38.000
 You know, what are people able -- what accommodations are they able to do?

00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.000
 What things aren't they able to do?

00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:45.000
 And then from that, we could make recommendations.

00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.000
 So we contract with the county to run all of our elections so we can invite the county?

00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:58.000
 Yeah.

00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:04.000
 And just kind of go through -- provide clarity on those issues that you mentioned,

00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:10.000
 you know, with absentee voting and maybe provide a little bit more.

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.000
 Because, frankly, every time I go into a polling location, I see it and I forget it.

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.000
 So I can tell you what accommodations are available for folks with any kind of disability.

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.000
 So maybe I can give a broad overview of that.

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:22.000
 Is that all you would say?

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:30.000
 You know, just make sure what are the options for people with disabilities.

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:38.000
 I know in the past when I ran an election, you could go out to a car and they just --

00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.000
 and it's all protected.

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:46.000
 I'm part of a new voting -- well, decisions being made, that's not going to be an option.

00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.000
 That's my understanding.

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.000
 I know they had that option, I think, during COVID.

00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.000
 Has that always been --

00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:00.000
 It was before COVID.

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:03.000
 And then you were saying the mail-in.

00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:09.000
 That's very, very confusing.

00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:13.000
 Well, it's, again, a good opportunity for this body to provide --

00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:19.000
 you know, not to get the information, but also provide feedback.

00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:27.000
 Maybe we can post some of the clarity that we see on the website.

00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.000
 Any other issues?

00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:34.000
 I'm still concerned about disaster planning for people with disabilities.

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.000
 Yeah, I'll say the same thing, especially considering the summer was especially tough for many.

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.000
 And we were right on the verge of having another grid issue.

00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:49.000
 The high of 300-plus days, we're now going into winter pretty soon.

00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.000
 And that's a major concern.

00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:54.000
 So I think in the last one, you all got kind of a broad overview.

00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.000
 Do you want to drill down into any one particular --

00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:59.000
 'cause disaster planning is a really broad topic.

00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:05.000
 Do you want to drill into any particular area as it relates to persons with disabilities?

00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:09.000
 Just from people, disabled people that I know, like,

00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:15.000
 accessing temperate control spaces in the event that power does go out,

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:21.000
 whether that's heat, AC, accessing food and necessities,

00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:27.000
 in the case that roads are closed, especially in the winter,

00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:33.000
 medications, making sure you have access to medications,

00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:38.000
 and an ability to store medications properly.

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:46.000
 So accessing food, medicine, and health care, and accessing shelter.

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.000
 And transport during all those events.

00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.000
 Transport and backup.

00:57:52.000 --> 00:58:05.000
 Electricity is vital for a lot of people, for their equipment.

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:12.000
 And one thing I also wonder about is if there was an evacuation order for any reason,

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:17.000
 I don't know what, but if there was one and you don't have a vehicle,

00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:22.000
 how would you access evacuation plans?

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.000
 Okay.

00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.000
 We've got -- we can get Bob in here.

00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.000
 He's got plans for that, so I don't know what they are.

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.000
 He tells me if he needs to.

00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000
 But he can come in, and I'll mention these specific things to him,

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.000
 but he may want to go into some other related topics for you guys.

00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.000
 Okay.

00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:45.000
 You know, there was a group once that had these type of tabletop discussions,

00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:54.000
 and those individuals that were involved included the school system, emergency assistance here,

00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:06.000
 like the fire rescue police, and the county emergency management team, FEMA.

00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:12.000
 And there was a process in place to find people with disabilities

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.000
 and make sure that there was some assistance for them.

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.000
 But I don't know what happened with the food.

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:17.000
 It just disappeared.

00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.000
 And this was well before the pandemic.

00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.000
 Other things that we've experienced.

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:27.000
 And the demographics would be important to them.

00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:32.000
 I'll also ask them how we incorporate this demographic in our --

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.000
 because we still do tabletops.

00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.000
 We haven't done any full-blown exercises that I'm aware of,

00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:42.000
 but we did Table Club actually about two weeks ago.

00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:50.000
 And to what extent we incorporate those issues into our planning tabletops,

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.000
 and also I'll see if there's an opportunity to --

00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.000
 I don't know if something can be done,

00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:00.000
 but maybe a tabletop that focuses solely on those issues

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.000
 and potentially even bringing members of this committee in with that

01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.000
 to be essentially the subject matter experts.

01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:15.000
 We'll see if that's an option as well.

01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:28.000
 [SIDE CONVERSATION]

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:33.000
 And I think this group just needs to continue to keep on top of the safety

01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:35.000
 of pedestrians and bicycle riders.

01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.000
 Every time I drive around town, I'm like, please stop.

01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:42.000
 I'm trying to talk to the car from the studio, the driver.

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:47.000
 I just -- I think they have done some improvements upon --

01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:52.000
 and then they give so many seconds for somebody to turn right,

01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.000
 and then the pedestrians get --

01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.000
 Yeah, I agree.

01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:01.000
 That's what we need to consider overall.

01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:05.000
 And we talked about it at one time about how some of that safety information

01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.000
 and the laws need to go printed in your electricity bill.

01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:36.000
 [SIDE CONVERSATION]

01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.000
 So a thought I wanted to have is that we, rain or shine,

01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:43.000
 we bring Nathan in at least twice a year to give an update on pedestrians

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.000
 on our wall, where we're at with our sidewalk plan.

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.000
 And maybe six months ago, we want to do these segments, here's what we've done,

01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000
 and here's what we haven't done, whatever that might be,

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.000
 and kind of what the plan is going forward.

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.000
 And I thought it would also be good to have Mia back maybe kind of on that same timeline

01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.000
 to just give us an adaptive rack update.

01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.000
 Because they deal so closely with folks who need the accommodations,

01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.000
 who have the disabilities,

01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:16.000
 and we can get kind of a more regular information on that.

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.000
 And hopefully she'll be able to kind of tell more about the types of --

01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000
 kind of speaking to that community need that they brought up earlier.

01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:30.000
 [SIDE CONVERSATION]

01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000
 One thing I did want to mention, and I don't think you need to think of it right now,

01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:39.000
 I'd like to add back in our -- we used to have an agenda item on our agenda

01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:41.000
 called "concluding items."

01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:45.000
 And I don't think it's -- oh, it's still on here.

01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.000
 We'll put it back on, I think we'll put it back on.

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:54.000
 But that's kind of a time at the end of every meeting that if you have a more --

01:02:54.000 --> 01:03:00.000
 something that's a little more time sensitive that you'd like to see at the next meeting.

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.000
 As a committee, as a body, y'all can recommend that.

01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:10.000
 But also, if anything that is discussed,

01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.000
 you feel like you want to make a formal recommendation to counsel on that,

01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000
 we can bring that back at the next meeting.

01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.000
 Or if you see something coming down the line

01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:25.000
 and you all feel that you want the option to make a formal recommendation to counsel,

01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.000
 we can post it that way.

01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.000
 If it's not posted as what we call a consideration item,

01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:35.000
 where you consider it and vote, you're not able to vote.

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.000
 And we'd have to repost that for the next meeting.

01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.000
 So I just want to remind you guys that staff, we love the direction,

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.000
 but also you can give that to counsel.

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:52.000
 And if you vote to give some sort of advisory opinion or some sort of direction to counsel,

01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:56.000
 what we would do is we would take that and we would communicate it to them

01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000
 and give them a report every Friday.

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.000
 And we would communicate to that to the counsel

01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.000
 and then it falls in their court to act on it.

01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:08.000
 Whatever it is you're recommending as a body, they can then act on it.

01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.000
 Which is how we got to the closed captioning from several years back.

01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.000
 You guys voted on it.

01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.000
 Counsel members said, hey, they voted on this.

01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:22.000
 I want that in the budget and enough of them voted on that budget.

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:27.000
 I want that item in there that it's a reality today.

01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.000
 So don't worry about that.

01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:39.000
 Do you think that it would be possible to do a simple online survey about the GoZone?

01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.000
 I think it would be hard for the city to do it.

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:45.000
 I think that's something that you could request GoZone do.

01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.000
 I think the challenge would also be, and this is true of any online survey,

01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:53.000
 is how do you tell if they are your target market or not?

01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.000
 How do you tell if that person has a disability or not?

01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:04.000
 And it's difficult to keep multiple people from taking multiple times.

01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.000
 And then also people who feel very strong,

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.000
 we banded together in skewing those results because they all take the survey.

01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:16.000
 They're not typically representative, so you just have to know that going into it.

01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:21.000
 But I think that would be something where DCTA would have to be the ones to lead that effort

01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.000
 and find a way to make that happen.

01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:31.000
 Is there any way for us as a committee to seek out that information?

01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.000
 Of what?

01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:40.000
 Of how difficult it is for people in the community to get a ride on GoZone

01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:47.000
 if they have a disability that requires some type of wheelchair especially.

01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.000
 I think that could be...

01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.000
 Help them formulate the questions.

01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:53.000
 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.000
 And they made hard copies.

01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:01.000
 I know that I have a community where I can circulate that among people with disabilities.

01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:08.000
 And try and, I guess, have it in a way that it can be mailed in to them.

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:14.000
 They may have another way that's much better than mine.

01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.000
 Well, that might be...

01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:23.000
 Because I'm just concerned, like I said, I'm just going by what I'm reading online.

01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:29.000
 What people are posting in debt and pages about GoZone is where my information is coming from.

01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.000
 And I think we need...

01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.000
 This is serious stuff.

01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.000
 I mean, people need to get around.

01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.000
 They need to get to their jobs, you know?

01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:42.000
 And it's really critical to living your life.

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:50.000
 And I just really want us to be able to get the feedback we need from the people that need to get that.

01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:58.000
 So, I mean, perfectly honest, I think the fact that you're hearing it and the fact that you're seeing it,

01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.000
 I think that's just as good as the data that any survey would provide.

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:07.000
 Because that survey data is going to be inherently difficult.

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:10.000
 It's not going to be a scientific, valid survey.

01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.000
 There's going to be a lot of error in it.

01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.000
 But I think the simple fact that you guys are observing in the community,

01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.000
 that there are issues and this is what you're hearing from the community,

01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.000
 personally, I feel like that's enough to take your grievance to DCTA and say,

01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:28.000
 "Either you don't have the solutions or you have the solutions and you're not communicating."

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.000
 If that's what this body chooses to tell DCTA.

01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:37.000
 But personally, I feel like that would be an additional step that would not really change much for you.

01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000
 I think your ask of them would be the same.

01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.000
 Okay.

01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000
 I have a question.

01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:52.000
 Now, anybody with ADA can apply to Access and get that service and they do take care of wheelchairs.

01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.000
 Right.

01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:59.000
 And GoZone may not yet at least be advanced to that position.

01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:04.000
 So I'm thinking wherever you're hearing that online.

01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:12.000
 It seems to me that it's people that aren't linked up with that and then there's a certain process you have to go through to get on that.

01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:16.000
 And there has to be a timeline, I think, of six months.

01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:21.000
 Yeah, there is an application online with DCTA and then you fill it out and you submit it.

01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:28.000
 And they can probably expedite that given the situation, you know, it's affecting my job.

01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:30.000
 Okay.

01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:36.000
 But I think that it may be able to be approved within two weeks or something like that.

01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:37.000
 Okay.

01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.000
 I know that we've had to do that with my son.

01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:40.000
 Okay.

01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:43.000
 Okay.

01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:44.000
 What's the background?

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.000
 I mean, I'm a little bit new to the committee.

01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:47.000
 It's been a year.

01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:57.000
 So before there was this GoZone, was there more city services for people on buses or like how were those same people getting around?

01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.000
 The buses or Access, right?

01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.000
 Did we cut back on bus services on the GoZone?

01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:05.000
 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.000
 So maybe the bigger issue is they're not going to do what they're supposed to be doing.

01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:13.000
 We need to be pushing to get bus service back and get away from the GoZone.

01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:16.000
 But the buses cannot handle wheelchairs.

01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:17.000
 Okay.

01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000
 The ones that are going to do?

01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000
 Well, those are the big ones.

01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.000
 Yeah.

01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.000
 Oh, the big ones?

01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:30.000
 Yeah, they go down to the level of the curb and you load on and then they pick you up.

01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.000
 It's like they need to talk about it more.

01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.000
 But, you know, sometimes if another entity can't do what they're supposed to be doing, you have to go to...

01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:37.000
 And it costs more.

01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:43.000
 If you have to ask months or weeks in advance against services, that doesn't sound very compliant.

01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.000
 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:53.000
 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think the bus service, I mean, there were a lot of buses riding around town empty.

01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.000
 That was the issue.

01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:00.000
 But they're there, you know, on a fairly, you know, keep the schedule.

01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.000
 And, you know, if you have to be at work at this time, you catch it then and go get it there.

01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.000
 And then you can carry your baby stroller on it if you need to.

01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000
 You can get it on with a wheelchair.

01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:14.000
 Joe can get on and his partner...

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.000
 Yeah.

01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:22.000
 The little couple in there, they were not as comfortable.

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:27.000
 It goes on seems to be kind of among the young people.

01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.000
 Okay.

01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.000
 It's kind of like a cheap lift.

01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.000
 Right.

01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.000
 Right.

01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.000
 I know that the...

01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:52.000
 The one on the opposite side of the bus is not accessible.

01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.000
 The go-zone is not accessible?

01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.000
 The bus.

01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.000
 The bus, the bus, is it?

01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.000
 No, not anymore.

01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000
 We don't have the accessible bus as an option.

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.000
 Very cheap bus routes right now.

01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:07.000
 Yeah.

01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.000
 They did reduce some of the bus routes.

01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.000
 Yeah, I think we only have like the UNT pretty much.

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.000
 So they can't really...

01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:20.000
 I might, when I reach out to them, I might communicate to them.

01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.000
 And I don't want to put words in the committee's mouth.

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:28.000
 So if I write it down right, that, you know, the committee felt there was a certain level of service to those persons who had disabilities.

01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:39.000
 And since we transitioned to go-zone, that service has been reducing the options, the accessibility options, the availability, that this level of service has been reduced.

01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:46.000
 And there are some more specific concerns about how persons with disabilities, specific wheelchair-bound persons, use these services.

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:52.000
 And they'd like to learn more about what's available and ask questions about these pain points.

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:53.000
 Yeah.

01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:58.000
 And I think that will lead into probably a really big discussion.

01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:59.000
 I'll have to carve out some time for that.

01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:07.000
 But I think that's, you know, come tell us what you do and what your response is to these things that we've observed.

01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:13.000
 Also, we've perceived a reduction in service for this demographic, policy law-based or not.

01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.000
 Yeah.

01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:16.000
 I can communicate that.

01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:17.000
 Okay.

01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000
 Thank you.

01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.000
 They have just a bit of background there on the process of hiring a new executive.

01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.000
 I guess it's the executive director of DCTA.

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:35.000
 So this one may, they may be reluctant to come visit us until that person's a couple months in the saddle.

01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:39.000
 So this may be something we take on early in the next calendar year.

01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.000
 But if you guys want November, I can push for November.

01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.000
 Well, no.

01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:47.000
 I mean, I think that if they're hiring a new person, that's a good point.

01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.000
 Okay.

01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:57.000
 I think they should be able to have some, because they won't have the knowledge base to discuss actually what we're talking about.

01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.000
 Well, so I've got so far.

01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:07.000
 So I have, and this is not, again, we'll add on this as you goes on and I will bring things back next meeting just in case if someone's not here.

01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:17.000
 But I've got GoZone, voting equity, disaster planning, kind of those specific areas relating to sheltering, food, medicine, health care, transportation,

01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.000
 electricity.

01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:26.000
 We've got to build in sidewalk pedestrian updates at least twice a year and adaptive rec updates at least twice a year.

01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:31.000
 And then for November, we've already got a special events update already built into that one.

01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:36.000
 So you'll get a follow up on that one as well.

01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.000
 I think that's what I have.

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:43.000
 And for the disaster planning, the water also.

01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:50.000
 You know, I know that they were having water available for people, but you had to be able to go pick it up.

01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.000
 Okay.

01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:59.000
 Well, I have one more slide basically just to say, we'll confirm it at the next meeting.

01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:04.000
 Get some more ideas and confirm kind of our plan.

01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:12.000
 And then I will do a much better job of including kind of basically giving you this at every single meeting in the general report.

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:18.000
 So you all can kind of see what our plan is and how far we'll progress.

01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:25.000
 And the only thing. Oh, sorry, go ahead, Chair.

01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:29.000
 You know, I'm.

01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:32.000
 Okay.

01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:38.000
 So I'm not sure if everyone had a chance to look, so I'll just run through it very briefly.

01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:42.000
 So our non-discrimination ordinance is up and running.

01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.000
 It's live. It's active.

01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:48.000
 One of the ways this might impact persons with disabilities.

01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:58.000
 Obviously, we have a grievance process if you have a disability and you did not get your accommodation or you had an issue with city services, we have a grievance process with that.

01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:08.000
 Although if you have a complaint against a restaurant or an apartment complex, the NDO might be an avenue for you.

01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:17.000
 But I'll remind the committee that in a lot of those cases, if we can refer a person to a federal or state entity, we do that first.

01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:23.000
 So, you know, we refer them to HUD first or we refer them to DOJ Department of Justice first.

01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:35.000
 But if they if either of those organizations don't take up their cause, don't don't run that through their process or they say they don't have jurisdiction comes right back to us and we investigate that.

01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:40.000
 So we've also had a question at our last meeting regarding library volunteers.

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:54.000
 So I think, yeah, in my memory, it's fuzzy. It's been some time. When library previously presented to this committee several years back, a statement was made that people with disabilities cannot volunteer.

01:15:54.000 --> 01:16:01.000
 And I had not retained that one, but some people on this committee heard that.

01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:06.000
 And so when we had that discussion last meeting with library staff, it struck weird to them. It struck weird to me.

01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.000
 So we went out and confirmed it. No, you have a disability. You can volunteer with the library.

01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:20.000
 You might not be we may not have accommodations for every single job, but you absolutely we want and need any volunteers.

01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.000
 So we're happy to have them disability or no.

01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:33.000
 I know a girl, well, young lady that has volunteers at the library lot at South Branch.

01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:38.000
 I'll mention closed captioning. I think the last time we told you is it was going to be installed is installed.

01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:50.000
 So if you watch our council meetings, a little CC button and just click on it and it works surprisingly accurately, surprisingly good.

01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:56.000
 When I first saw it, I was impressed by how much it was actually capturing that was correct.

01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.000
 That's a thing now. So again, this committee.

01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:05.000
 And then one thing I'm going to start including is since we do have that grievance process and request for accommodations,

01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:15.000
 I will start listing the number of requests that are filed through our ADA website and the number of grievances processes that are filed through our ADA website on a quarterly basis.

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.000
 We have had none. So that's maybe that's good.

01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:21.000
 Maybe we just need to get the word out that this is available to people.

01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:27.000
 But I'll just always present that to you guys in our report going forward.

01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:31.000
 And that's I think that's the report.

01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:37.000
 Oh, next committee meeting, November 17th, right here, 3 p.m.

01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:42.000
 That's the report.

01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:51.000
 Yes, Mia, who did the presentation earlier, if anyone wants her business card, I do have it available.

01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:58.000
 Someone's trying to get a hold of you.

01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:07.000
 Is it okay if I say something?

01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:08.000
 Say it again one more time.

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:14.000
 Is it okay if I say something?

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:17.000
 Yeah, you're the chair. You can do that.

01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:30.000
 If anybody wants to come out to the market, I have a lot of new stuff going with it.

01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:35.000
 It goes really professional.

01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:43.000
 And I hope that you're all over in my area to come see me.

01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:44.000
 Okay, cool.

01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:47.000
 Is this in the community market?

01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:54.000
 I got two more tables.

01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:06.000
 I got people getting ready to buy a couple of tables for the market.

01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:09.000
 That's terrific.

01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:19.000
 Getting up early in the morning.

01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:24.000
 And I heard that you got your aids, too. Your assistance?

01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:39.000
 Oh, that's great.

01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:47.000
 The day in the DL.

01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.000
 I didn't get it. I'm sorry.

01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:54.000
 The day in the DL.

01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:59.000
 I made a motion to get ready.

01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.000
 Did you do concluding items?

01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.000
 Oh, concluding items.

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:07.000
 Any concluding items?

01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:08.000
 No.

01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:09.000
 All right.

01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:10.000
 Okay.

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.000
 And then you don't need to motion for adjourn? You can simply adjourn if you'd like to.

01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:16.000
 Okay.

