1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Good afternoon. Welcome to the work session for the Planning and Zoning Commission for 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,720 the City of Denton. I'll call our meeting to order at 432. My name is Tim Smith. I'm 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,680 the vice chair. I'll be filling in for Chair Ellis this evening. I'll also make note that 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Commissioner Ronnie Anderson is also not present at this time. Our first item on work session 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,520 is citizen comments on consent agenda items. Are there any citizens here to make any comments 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:35,680 on consent agenda? We don't have a consent agenda so that's not even possible. All right. 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,000 With that being said, we'll move forward. First item of business then will be 3A work 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,800 session reports. Charlie to present on PZ 22-078 on our fiscal impact model tool. 9 00:00:46,800 --> 00:01:03,080 We've spent a lot of time working and developing this model with our consultant AECOM is here 10 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:10,560 with us. This model started back in 2019 with the adoption of the development code. One 11 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,280 of the approval criteria in the development code was a consideration of fiscal impact 12 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,040 to the city. With that City Council requested staff come up with a standardized model that 13 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:28,760 we could use to input development related information and then produce a summary for 14 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:37,360 consideration when these projects come forward. So we issued a request for proposal and AECOM 15 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:44,880 is the person that was awarded that contract to create this model. So what was the goal 16 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:51,120 of the model? Like I had mentioned previously, the goal is to have a standard model that 17 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,640 isn't developer driven and it's a set of assumptions that the city has come up with 18 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:04,560 through this process of developing it that we can provide consistency from development 19 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:10,360 project and proposal to the next so that you all are looking at the same information every 20 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:16,240 time. Previously, we would have developers submit, sometimes they would submit their 21 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,480 own fiscal impacts for these projects and so like I said before, this would be a standard 22 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:32,840 model. So a word of caution to the commission on how this should be used. This is one of 23 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:39,680 13 approval criteria in the development code. This is not the only approval criteria. So 24 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:46,880 you will see the fiscal impact of these projects based on the model that's been created, but 25 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,200 there's a number of other factors to consider when these projects come forward and then 26 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:58,400 so this is not the -- this should not be the sole determining factor and moreover, it's 27 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:04,520 also should be a balanced citywide approach. So project proposals will come one at a time 28 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,780 and the commission should remember that, you know, these projects balance out citywide. 29 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:13,680 So I think AECOM will touch on it a little bit. What we've seen is what you would probably 30 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:21,400 expect that commercial projects offer a higher net positive fiscal impact to the city than 31 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:27,520 maybe a residential would, but as the city develops out, multiple of these projects could 32 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:35,320 balance the city out as it relates to the fiscal impact. With that, I'll let Chris Brewer 33 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:44,320 with AECOM talk about the work they did. >> Thank you, Charlie. Again, thank you very 34 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,320 much for the opportunity to present tonight. I think this has been an exciting moment to 35 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,760 get to in terms of what we've learned over the last year and a half. To get to tonight, 36 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,160 given all the complexities of the last few years, has been a challenge but also an enjoying 37 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,780 process for us. I think when we look at the scope that we were asked to deliver on, there 38 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:07,440 were really two goals at the end of the day. One is this notion of is a project in that 39 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,560 benefit to the city? Simple enough. But that obviously creates a whole set of questions. 40 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Well, is it a single family house on a one acre lot or is it a five story building with 41 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,040 300 units on half an acre? Again, that notion of density, that notion of scale, having a 42 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,800 model that can deal with such a wide array of development options. Again, building in 43 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:31,760 that flexibility and that redundancy but also building in updateability. These are key challenges 44 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,320 that we had to think through but also building in concrete assumptions that allow us to make 45 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,800 sure that the answers you get make sense regardless of project size. So, again, thinking about 46 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:48,160 that, try and provide a framework for how does the city benefit from real estate development? 47 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,680 What are those fiscal benefits and how do they change over time? Was ultimately a key 48 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,680 goal of our process. And when I think about that, I think, you know, when we first talked 49 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,960 to Charlie and the team, there was this clear challenge of many times you're operating at 50 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,120 the beginning of a development program where the developer does not have a clear view of 51 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,280 their project, their cost may change, their program may change. So, building in a set 52 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:12,360 of assumptions at the front end that allows you to begin to understand that fiscal benefit 53 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,660 conceptually and then as the developer comes back and finalizes their numbers, we can then 54 00:05:16,660 --> 00:05:21,920 improve the model and get to a closer final proxy for what the actual impact will be. 55 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,520 We also see another benefit of this process that we're learning through similar efforts 56 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:31,000 elsewhere is the need for cities to compel developers or to work with developers to come 57 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,520 to a standard set of inputs to allow cities to understand development. I think many developers 58 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,600 will try to confuse the process with different ways of framing information. The huge benefit 59 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,820 of transparency here in terms of asking for information a certain way becomes very telling 60 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:48,720 in terms of understanding how the developers are looking at projects. We want to have a 61 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,080 long-term view, so not just year one of a project but over 40 years, what is that net 62 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,880 benefit over time, how does it change becomes an important thing to us. And then really 63 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,160 I think one of the things we've really keyed in on this study is this reality of roadway 64 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,440 maintenance and reconstruction costs. I think the one issue that a lot of cities are slowly 65 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,120 waking up to is where do they find the funds to replace that 50-year-old road, the city 66 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,160 road. Those sorts of questions have become a lot more present to a lot of cities and 67 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:23,220 our model that we've built to this point allows us to begin to understand those questions. 68 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:29,120 So the core methodology for us, again, it builds from basic information. One is a structured 69 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,080 way of collecting information from our developer, so being able to pull that into the model 70 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,460 and a clear framework in terms of zoning, what's the actual parcel, what's the parcel 71 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:41,720 land value, how much density are we putting on the parcel, again, a very clear and transparent 72 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,240 framework. And then we take that information and we then put it into context with a broad 73 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,720 set of assumptions that have been developed. So a lot of these were brought up through 74 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,520 GIS data, so parcel-specific information on property taxes, so relating property taxes 75 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,560 to year of construction. Again, getting at very specific types of assumptions for whether 76 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,920 it's an effective rate that we're calculating based on some things or a calculated rate 77 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,180 based on property taxes. So that as those rates change, you can change them. But it 78 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:14,760 ultimately gets us to a way of getting to a net benefit framework over a multi-year period 79 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:21,200 of time. And part of what I'm so pleased about with the study is that it is both broad 80 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,900 and robust, meaning we've thought about just about every revenue assumption we can come 81 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:30,060 up with and come up with a framework for how to attack it. And a lot of these, again, series 82 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:34,760 of conversations with city staff to think about and question and second-guess the assumptions 83 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,960 so that we're in a decent place in terms of where we are today in terms of the different 84 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,000 revenues, whether it's a calculated rate or an effective rate. One of the examples of 85 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,500 an effective rate is we wanted to come up with an estimate of net retail sales per square 86 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:53,840 foot. And so we worked with the city to understand aggregated sales tax data in relation to growth 87 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,400 in built occupied retail environment to get at that net number. Now we know from experience 88 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,880 that's going to be a volatile number, particularly post-COVID. So that might be a number that 89 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,680 we update more consistently. But thinking about how to calculate and come up with justifiable 90 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:12,880 numbers is a critical approach for us. And I think one of the things we're most intrigued 91 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,680 about at the beginning was leveraging GIS to be able to get at, in many cases, parcel-specific 92 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,680 assumptions. So being able to think about based on where you are in the city, what those 93 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,280 underlying land values are, what the zoning allows for, what the new development is, and 94 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,120 what, for example, say the property taxes or utility taxes could be. Taking that information 95 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,320 at a parcel level and ultimately working up to get to our assumptions was a critical thing 96 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,760 about this. Because obviously based on where you are in the community, the costs could 97 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,680 be different. So thinking about that and being able to pull that up was one of our key goals 98 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:49,520 in the process. And specifically the revenues could be different. 99 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Probably one of the areas that we spent a lot of time thinking about was cost of city 100 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,320 services, specifically general fund basis. So a lot of time for me as the economist wading 101 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,280 through city comprehensive financial statements. I know not the most exciting thing, but we 102 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:09,280 enjoy it. Thinking about this sort of long-term question as, you know, the city grows, there's 103 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,600 at least an argument that the marginal cost of providing city services should decrease 104 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,560 as we add more residents. So what that tells us is that growth rate on cost should be potentially 105 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,360 less than inflation over time. And at least historically what we're running for in the 106 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,920 model right now is, you know, 2.4% growth in general fund cost. And this is an assumption 107 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,160 that can be changed in the model on an annual basis. But it becomes that one of those critical 108 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,200 notions of how does a new project increase the city's cost of doing business on a general 109 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,320 fund basis. So to us this was an important assumption. But we wanted to actually think 110 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,400 about different ways of looking at the data as well. 111 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Now basically last fall there was a critical moment where we handed the model over to the 112 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,440 city. And I don't remember if I told Charlie to attempt to break the model, but we wanted 113 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,440 to put it through its paces. In other words, try to use it in a bunch of real-world situations 114 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,440 and to see how it was calculating. Because again, we can't always predict the different 115 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,240 scenarios in which it'll be used. And so we wanted to get that real-world experience. 116 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,560 And I think we learned two things for that process. The first was that the model wasn't 117 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,200 dealing with increases in density very well. So if we were adding density within a given 118 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,800 site it was increasing the cost of each additional resident. And we generally agreed that if 119 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,480 we added more residents in a given specific parcel, that marginal cost of each additional 120 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,880 resident should probably go down. So this really triggered a literature review to understand 121 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,320 this question of how does density reduce the cost of city services. And quite frankly there's 122 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,880 a huge body of research that goes back about 40 years on this topic. In our case we found 123 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,980 research from 2021 that actually provided very clear marginal reductions in revenues 124 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:48,960 and costs for each city department to give us a framework for how we might reduce the 125 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:54,440 cost of going from say four units to the acre to say ten units to the acre. So again at 126 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,600 the margin we're able to say it costs the city slightly less amount to provide services 127 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,000 based on more density within a given location. When you read all of these studies though 128 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,280 it's very clear that as you build up in density and start thinking about transit and taller 129 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,280 buildings obviously city cost tends to grow. So that's one of those assumptions that we 130 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,520 think is probably pretty stable for the near term. But it's one of those things to think 131 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,120 about. But again this was one that we made, spent a significant amount of time this spring 132 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,720 trying to adjust for because it wasn't being dealt with in the model really well. I think 133 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,260 the other one that's really been a big focus in the last six months has been this whole 134 00:11:29,260 --> 00:11:34,720 question about roadways, life cycle costs of roadways. The model always dealt well with 135 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,520 the roadway impact fee. It's a relatively straightforward calculation. But there was 136 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,320 this broader question of as roads are taken into the city system what's the cost to maintain 137 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,080 those roads over time and what's that incremental cost to a project whether it be an infill 138 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,000 site with no new roads or say a new subdivision where there's not only impacts on existing 139 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,060 city streets but new roads coming into the system. And we obviously had one set of assumptions 140 00:11:59,060 --> 00:12:02,680 probably six months ago and in the last six months we've revisited almost all of those 141 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,800 and I think we're at a better place now. I think there's still some questions we're 142 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,720 working through here. But the basic goal is to give the city a better perspective of the 143 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,760 true long term cost of how does road maintenance come into play in terms of thinking about 144 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,920 new real estate development. So I think this is probably one of the areas where I think 145 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:25,400 we're much happier with the result meaning coming up with an ongoing cost over 40 years 146 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,040 to maintain a road at such a level where it won't fall apart and we have to reconstruct 147 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,840 it. So we're doing a better job of trying to maintain a road before we have to rebuild 148 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:38,500 it from scratch if that makes sense. Now ultimately what we want to be able to do is to start 149 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:44,520 to build again a faceplate to the model to allow us to understand all the different assumptions. 150 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,920 I think the model deals with a tremendous number of different assumptions that we can 151 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,040 think about based on the property type whether it's single family, multi family, whether 152 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:58,600 it's under three stories or over three stories. We built in a significant amount of flexibility 153 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,320 here to deal with different scenarios because we obviously can't anticipate all of them. 154 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,760 And one of the things I'm excited about is that ability to deal with quite possibly just 155 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,760 about any single development format you could think of is at least at this point conceptually 156 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:17,200 in the model. But then ultimately building in a fiscal summary page and I think it's 157 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,520 the intent of Charlie and Development Services to be able to present a summary like this 158 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,400 whenever we're thinking about a project to be able to understand the sort of net benefit 159 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,400 over 40 years to that project. Again thinking about whether it's a revenue or a cost item, 160 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,520 what does that look like at the bottom line. So again this sort of simple summary is one 161 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:42,740 way that we may see these things presented in the future in terms of policy action. 162 00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:45,840 And again I think this last spring what we started to do was to put the model through 163 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,940 its paces and so this is one example where we took an actual parcel conveniently one 164 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:56,560 acre in size and started to think about how we change density on that parcel, how we think 165 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:59,940 about the number of people as well as jobs associated with that parcel. Again these are 166 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:05,720 all single family up to multi-family projects. Thinking about average unit sizes, construction 167 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,600 cost, one of the big adjustments we made this winter was the model right now runs off of 168 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,240 construction costs based on national building code, international building code. We recognized 169 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,520 early on that a developer might build a building that's more expensive than the code so he 170 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,640 wanted to build in an option in the model to say well it's not a $350,000 house, it's 171 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,400 a $450,000 house. And to have that difference to be picked up in the model is one of the 172 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,640 adjustments. So what we noticed here obviously is thinking about the notion of revenues, 173 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,440 cost of municipal services and then that net impact at the bottom. And I think the one 174 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,720 thing you notice here is as we increase in density that marginal cost of each resident 175 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,600 decreases. So again that's one of those key things we wanted to get at was as we add density 176 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,200 that marginal cost should be going down to some extent. But also thinking about that 177 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,740 net impact and does it ultimately make sense in terms of residential product versus say 178 00:14:56,740 --> 00:15:02,520 retailer commercial product. And really on this last slide we wanted to actually think 179 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,040 about some actual projects and how they might look based on the model and I think some of 180 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,160 this is fairly intuitive in terms of commercial projects and significantly greater net impact. 181 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,040 I always think about this too, the three single family options and realizing lane miles constructed. 182 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,200 And obviously now in the model it's going to take a heavier hand with more lane miles 183 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,600 constructed. So that's one of the differences in the model as we see today. But again a 184 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,160 applying it to different real world situations whether it be an infill site close to the 185 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,000 core or a greenfield site at the edge of town. Those are two very different scenarios and 186 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,320 being able to understand cost implications and revenue implications is something we wanted 187 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:52,680 to think through carefully. Questions, comments? 188 00:15:52,680 --> 00:16:05,720 I think this is a great tool. If I was to be a devil's advocate though, you know, wouldn't 189 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:12,440 it be fair to say that there is a built in bias in this formula towards more density. 190 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:18,320 I mean this really didn't say anything new. We all know a development further out from 191 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:24,680 the city's core is going to cost more, you know, we know that. But as a thriving city 192 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,160 you have to offer alternatives. I mean not everybody wants to live 10 houses per acre. 193 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,640 You know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah. I mean so are we not going to build 194 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:41,440 an R2, R3 development because it doesn't make, I mean it just seems there's a built 195 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,680 in bias. Yeah, right. So and I think this goes back 196 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,960 to one of the key points that Charlie had made at the beginning of the presentation 197 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,840 is that, you know, we need to make sure that we're considering all types of development 198 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,640 within our community. We cannot evaluate projects on a project by project basis as it relates 199 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:07,040 to the fiscal impact to the city. It's very important that we have a community that has 200 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:15,000 a balance of land uses both from non-residential and residential. As the data showed, commercial 201 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,880 development and multifamily projects are going to have a better financial benefit to the 202 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,880 city. But we also recognize the importance of having single family housing. It's very 203 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,520 important that we have a variety of housing types within our community so that our residents 204 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:37,560 and future residents have an opportunity to select from a variety of housing options. 205 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,780 We have an issue with affordable housing that we're also trying to address. So that's why 206 00:17:41,780 --> 00:17:47,440 we say this is only one out of 13 criteria for evaluating zoning requests because we 207 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,360 recognize the significance and importance of having a wide variety of land uses within 208 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:56,600 our community. And I would also caution the commission that as we make decisions on projects, 209 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,240 they need to be land use based, right? So our future land use map is one of the key 210 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,100 components that we look at as part of our comprehensive plan and our policies. They 211 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:11,080 are very land use focused. And so we need to make sure that we're evaluating projects 212 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,280 from a standpoint of is the proposed land use consistent with our comprehensive plan 213 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,000 recommended land uses for the area. It shouldn't be based upon what is the price of the single 214 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,400 family home that's being provided for, or if it's, you know, Starbucks versus Tina's 215 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:30,320 coffee shop that's being evaluated. Again, it comes down to appropriateness of land use. 216 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Thank you. And thank you all for the work. And this is a great idea. It's a great thing 217 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:40,440 tool to use. And I'm all for it. I just wanted to kind of play devil's advocate a little 218 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,480 bit on it. Thank you. Commissioner. Scott. Commissioner call. I appreciate that comment. 219 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,200 And I guess I just want to even make it a little more clear. This is not designed as 220 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:59,440 a tool to disapprove a project. It is not a tool that's designed to prevent something 221 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:05,960 from occurring. It's just another informative way for us to be able to bring projects forward 222 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:11,600 and you can see comprehensively how this fits into our community. So just I want to make 223 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:18,000 sure that's just abundantly clear. It's not a tool in the toolbox to negate something. 224 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Thank you. Thank you, Scott. Any other questions from the commission? Commissioner Pruitt. 225 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Thank you, Chair. More vice chair. I just thank you for all your work on this. I think 226 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,080 it's been a long time coming and a lot of hard work has gone into it. I did have one 227 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,960 just brief question. I think obviously for projects where this is applied and it comes 228 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:47,440 into backup, we'll be able to see it. Will this be used in the development process for 229 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,480 by right projects for staff's information or will it only be used for projects as they 230 00:19:52,480 --> 00:20:00,600 come before us? I think there's a variety of uses that we can use this for. Even when 231 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,440 it first came together, it was contemplated if we're looking at a specific area to incentivize 232 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:10,840 redevelopment, a tool like this could be used to look at multiple different project types 233 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,760 in an area. So I think there's a variety of ways that we could use this tool and not just 234 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,000 the items that come before this commission. Okay. Yeah, I guess I would think -- I think 235 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:28,440 we've talked before about having whatever it is yearly or bi-yearly reviews of the culmination 236 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,560 of projects that have come both before us and through the rest of the process. And as 237 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:41,000 we talk about, hey, what we want is a balanced pattern of development, it might help if we're 238 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,800 already doing that work to be able to see whether this tool is also balanced once you 239 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480 sum all the projects together, if that makes sense. 240 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,920 Yes, I believe I follow you on that. And I guess I go back to -- so with respect to by 241 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,960 right development, this tool, we shouldn't be utilizing for by right development. And 242 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,240 the reason why I say that is because the zoning has already entitled the uses that are allowed 243 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,280 within it. So if somebody comes in with a project that is allowed under the existing 244 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,240 zoning by right, then they have the opportunity to get their plans approved if they meet all 245 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,840 of our development requirements, right, but be able to get that permit. So this is not 246 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:22,080 a conversation for by right development. So you're right with respect to reporting project 247 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,440 progress. I think that was primarily geared toward the Conference of Plan and our 271 248 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:32,120 action items associated with that. But I think there could be some benefit in making sure 249 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:37,280 that we evaluate this tool over time and could provide, you know, maybe an annual summary 250 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,520 to the Planning and Zoning Commission to demonstrate how well we believe this tool is working for 251 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,480 us or working against us or if any of the assumptions need to be modified as we work 252 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,480 through it. 253 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:54,280 Got a couple of questions. Tina answered one of them there, just about us having an annual 254 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,960 report or something like that so we could see just how the impact tool is, this fiscal 255 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,440 tool is working for us to be able to see projects as a whole as they've come in front of them, 256 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,480 the PNZ and then going in front of council, how that pans out. So thank you, Tina, for 257 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,040 answering that. There was a question that I think Charlie, you kind of brought up there 258 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,440 a second ago that I want to come back to saying that we could use this tool as a way of identifying 259 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:24,600 areas that we should maybe look to incentivize development. Does this tool incorporate the 260 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:30,400 ability for us to input maybe tax breaks that we're giving or tax incentives we're giving 261 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,960 and calculate that into the total fiscal analysis? Is that included in that tool for us to be 262 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,920 able to see that? Not saying that it pumps out, saying this is the recommendation if 263 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,800 you want to incentivize, but if we do have incentivization projects that come from like 264 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,440 economic development and can we input that into the tool and see how that affects our 265 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,680 fiscal analysis? Yeah, actually, there's a section in the tool that allow us to add any 266 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:58,600 of those additional economic development incentives as part of the fiscal summary. Okay, awesome. 267 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Whenever you are discussing marginal cost, talk to me about what that means. I understand 268 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,400 it. It sounds like what you're talking about is the dollar to develop or dollar to repair 269 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,600 per person, and that's kind of why you said marginal cost decreases as density increases. 270 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Give me just the definition of what you mean by marginal cost. 271 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:27,600 So the way the model works specifically with general fund costs is that it looks at growth 272 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:36,360 in population over time, growth in inbound commuters. So workers who come in, that's 273 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:42,320 our total on an annual basis over I believe a 10 to 15 year period in relation to growth 274 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,440 in general fund costs over that time. What we're trying to get to is both a compound 275 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,340 growth rate and the expectation, the hypothesis going in was that it was going to be less 276 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:59,400 than inflation and it was, which was helpful, but also on a per person basis, per person 277 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,280 plus per commuter effectively, what's that marginal cost of each person we add, what's 278 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:10,920 that cost? Gotcha. And I think begging or baked into that approach is actually an important 279 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,440 question and I always remember this, my wife is a high school principal and she always 280 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,200 says that at certain times of the year that 25th or 26th kid doesn't, it's all revenue, 281 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,300 it doesn't cost much. So I think there is a conversation to be had about pragmatically 282 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:29,400 what is the marginal cost based on project size. I think we're making a general statement 283 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,800 across the board that well if we add a project there's a cost and I think there's probably 284 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:39,040 an argument that for projects below a certain size that cost might actually be more negligible. 285 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,440 Also based on location, I think this is one of the things we really keyed in on was is 286 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,840 it an infill project where we're keeping the existing road versus is it a greenfield 287 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,440 project where there's a new road to be built? There's obviously a different cost factor 288 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,000 there. Gotcha. Okay. Did this also take into account hot tax and things like that that 289 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,120 are collected from obviously hotel occupancies? Yes. Is that included in there? I just didn't 290 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,680 see it on the tools I was going through when we were looking at the last slide. We spent 291 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,400 a lot of time thinking about assumptions and being able to come up with appropriate proxies 292 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,880 based on whether it's a hotel or some other use. Gotcha. I understand. And then I think 293 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:20,480 to Commissioner Pruitt's questions, what step do we include this tool? I mean obviously 294 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,600 it's, we wouldn't be doing it necessarily at zoning because at zoning there's not a, 295 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,160 we don't have a project to look at. Is it done at preliminary platting? Is it done at 296 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,280 the time of engineering as we lead up to that platting process? When do we see as a city 297 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:41,560 we would incorporate that tool? I was going to say I have, well Charlie I was going to 298 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,520 say, have you given thought to this as to where we would incorporate this? And I've 299 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:51,080 got an idea and that is any report that we produce that requests for the fiscal impact 300 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,600 analysis as an evaluation criteria that we could include that information. Now keep in 301 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,800 mind some of the reports that you receive that address fiscal impact analysis, the zoning 302 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,660 entitlements are already in place, right? So and a great example I believe is on our 303 00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:10,040 platting reports. One of the criteria that's in there is, thank you for the head nonsense 304 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,360 too, one of the criteria that's in there is the fiscal impact analysis. So that data 305 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,440 could be put in there. But again, when it comes to a by-right project that's already 306 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:24,400 been entitled, this really is just for informational purposes only. So it seems like it's at the 307 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,600 step in which this commission is acting more in a ministerial manner than anything else. 308 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,720 Is that correct? Especially on those plotting items? Yes. Gotcha. Okay. What about in the 309 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,640 form of like a PD, whenever there is a plot that's being submitted with that zoning change? 310 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,080 You know with, so I believe one of the criteria for evaluation on the fiscal impact analysis 311 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,080 does apply to rezoning as well as specific use permits. So we would work to be able to 312 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,760 provide that information to the commission. I think, and I don't know if, I can't recall 313 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,120 if we tested this on much larger scale projects that might have a variety of different land 314 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,000 uses included with them. I guess if we get a development plan in, we would probably be 315 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,240 able to plug the information into the tool. Yeah, so one of the benefits of the tool is 316 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:15,120 it allows for multiple uses. And so that we can look at a single project and include residential, 317 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:20,320 retail uses, commercial uses. So those can all be included on a single project. And I 318 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,080 think also a benefit of the tool is we don't have to have a lot of inputs to be able to 319 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:32,040 produce a fiscal impact to the city. I will say, obviously, the more information that 320 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,880 we have about a project, it's going to be a better analysis. And these projects may 321 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,480 also change as projects change going through the process. So if we receive something and 322 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,960 then it comes to platting and the project has changed a little bit, the fiscal impact 323 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,440 obviously is going to be different as part of that as well. I think my only, I think 324 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,560 it's a great tool. And I think my only concern is we've been, this is, this has been discussed. 325 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,640 This tool has been discussed for what, two, three, four, I mean, I've been on the commission 326 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,780 for five years and we've been talking about it. You know, hopefully, hopefully having 327 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:07,040 this come up. I think my only fear has ever been having something like this involved has 328 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,840 just been possibly muddying the lines when we see something that is ministerial, like 329 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,680 a preliminary plat or a final plat, that we, we see an impact analysis that's negative 330 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,560 and it begins to confuse folks to say that, you know, the city, therefore we couldn't 331 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:28,560 do something about it. I think that the, I think it being involved in a zoning process 332 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:34,080 and being informational is, is extremely great. I'd, I'd, I'll let Scott talk in a second, 333 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,520 but the, I think that my, I think there's a little bit of a fear there of we see this 334 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:49,640 in a, a zoning process or an SUP process that may end up affecting a vote that comes forward. 335 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,680 But regardless, I think having more information is always better than not having more information. 336 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,240 So I just want to make sure that's clear. Before I throw to Scott, I just want to recognize 337 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,400 on record that Commissioner Anderson has, has joined us. So welcome, Ronnie. But Scott. 338 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Well, and I think just to be frank that, that this will be a learning process for all of 339 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:12,080 us. So I think that we will, will gain a better understanding as we work through this and 340 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,160 walk through this staff, your professional planning staff will ensure that you understand 341 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,600 that this is for informational purposes or just part of the backup like anything else. 342 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,320 So we'll try to delineate that. And again, I think we're all going to learn as we do 343 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,840 this. It's something new. And again, we'd like to think that it's an improvement. So 344 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,800 we appreciate that. Thanks, Scott. Okay. Any other questions from the commission? 345 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,600 I just want to thank everybody. This has been a long time coming. We spent hundreds of hours 346 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,880 in this model, testing it, I'm going through and redrafting it and get the best product 347 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,140 that we can. So thank you guys for all your support on that. Thank you, Charlie. Thank 348 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:57,320 you Acom for your guys' hard work on it. So thank you. Really appreciate it. Thank you. 349 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,240 Great. Commissioner Smith, if I could just add, I mean, significant kudos to Charlie 350 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,560 as well as Chris as well. Charlie has been tremendous in trying to lead us through this 351 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,640 effort on pulling this tool together and really allowing us to ask lots of questions related 352 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,400 to it and challenging the, especially the assumptions associated with it. So tremendously huge thank 353 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,200 you to both of you for that. Of course. Hang around Charlie. I'll buy you dinner tonight. 354 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:33,720 All right. Moving on to our next work session report. PZ 22-114. Receive report, whole discussion 355 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,720 regarding overlay districts and historic districts. I think we got Mia and Cameron tag teaming 356 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:45,920 this one. Good evening, commission. Cameron Robertson, historic preservation officer and 357 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,400 principal planner. And then we have Mia Hines, associate planner. Let me bring up the overlay 358 00:30:50,400 --> 00:31:00,320 bootcamp. Okay. So this evening, our planning bootcamp is historic districts and overlay 359 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,680 districts. On the agenda, first we're going to be covering just the purpose and history 360 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,720 of overlays, just to give you kind of that foundation to build off of. And then we're 361 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,940 going to start running into our different overlay districts. We have our municipal airport, 362 00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:19,800 unicorn lake, razor ranch, followed by Fry Street. And then I'll be talking about historic 363 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,280 districts as well as our Denton square district. And then we'll be ending with helpful links. 364 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:31,000 So now I'm going to have pass it over to Mia. Thank you, Cameron. Okay. Again, Mia Hines, 365 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,560 associate planner. All right. So what is an overlay district? I like to think of it as 366 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,680 a chicken burrito or a chicken burrito bowl, excuse me. So a chicken burrito bowl to me 367 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,960 is a chicken burrito bowl to you, but they are not the same typically because of the 368 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,240 rice type and the toppings and stuff like that. And so similarly, an overlay district 369 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,440 would be the bowl and then the base zoning would be the chicken. So I say a chicken burrito 370 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,500 bowl and then you understand it as a chicken burrito bowl. We say PD with a base zoning 371 00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:05,480 of MN. It has the same similar type of understanding, but there are different stipulations and different 372 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,000 regulations within that that are special and unique to that specific land area. So sub 373 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000 chapter four of the Denton development code establishes procedures and standards to allow 374 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,800 for the creation of overlay and historic districts, excuse me, in the city of Denton. And again, 375 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,360 that is meant to protect and enhance specific lands and structures by applying specific 376 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,940 standards to that overlay district. The districts shall contain in the creation of them reasonable 377 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:39,120 and necessary requirements to ensure the protection and enhancement of said lands and structures. 378 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,700 The creation and amendments to an overlay district shall be made pursuant to subsection 379 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:53,880 2.7.4 and 2.7.2 and those are the standards that we use whenever we bring zoning text amendments 380 00:32:53,880 --> 00:33:01,520 or zoning map amendments to this body. So historically speaking, currently overlay conditions 381 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,160 are not permitted for base zoning districts under the 2019 DDC. So if you have a straight 382 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:13,400 zoning district or zoning change request brought to you, we cannot apply conditions to that 383 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:19,480 specific straight zoning. We do still have the PD tool or have the PD tool to apply overlays, 384 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,760 but under our current DDC, we do not allow us for overlay conditions to be established 385 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:33,080 on straight zoning changes. Under the 2002 DDC, we did have the flexibility under the 386 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,720 mixed use residential protection overlay standard and that was used where necessary to address 387 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,720 the concerns of owners of existing adjacent residential uses and sort of apply maybe additional 388 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,940 setback requirements or additional landscape requirements and sort of to help provide flexibility 389 00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:58,800 in areas where a developing use would have adversely impacted a neighborhood or to protect 390 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:05,720 environmental areas. There's different reasons to apply overlay districts, but mainly it's 391 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:13,320 to address development concerns or limitations within a specific area. Under the current 392 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:22,640 DDC, section 2.4.5 F1 does allow for conditions of approval, but those cannot be applied to, 393 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,320 like I said earlier, straight zoning changes and zoning map amendments. And then currently 394 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:35,060 under our current DDC and section 2.7.3, we have standards and procedures for rezoning 395 00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:39,520 to a plan development, which is a completely other boot camp in itself and the complications 396 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,320 and things, complexities of things associated with plan development. So just to give you 397 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,600 a brief history of how overlays are and how they've come about. So as we mentioned in 398 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,240 the title slide or excuse me, the agenda slide, we do have a couple of overlay districts here 399 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:03,560 within the city of Denton that have transitioned to PDs under the 2019 DDC. Specifically we're 400 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,560 going to discuss Fry Street, Unicorn Lake, Razor Ranch, Historic Districts, Denton Square 401 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,400 District and the Municipal Airport District. And as you can see, a lot of the things that 402 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,640 they regulate are parking, uses, density, dwelling unit size, things like that, specific 403 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,580 to those areas. So jumping straight in with the Municipal Airport overlay district, these 404 00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:31,320 standards and the things that regulate this area can be found in DDC section 4.5. And 405 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,800 these are standards that restrict the height of structures and objects of natural growth, 406 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,600 land uses and implement state and federal rules regarding land uses in the vicinity 407 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,520 of the airport. And that's essentially to ensure safe travels and safe flight paths 408 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:53,560 for the planes using that airport area. Another overlay district that we have is the Unicorn 409 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,720 Lake overlay. So this is a district that was established, for example, to protect an environmentally 410 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:06,600 sensitive area while still allowing for density and development within an area. This particular 411 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:14,160 district was established via ordinance 2006-139 and encompasses approximately 47 acres allowing 412 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:20,840 for up to 112 maximum single family residential units. The Razor Ranch overlay district is 413 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,140 probably our most active overlay district. I think we have at least maybe two agenda 414 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:32,240 items on the agenda for tonight regarding Razor Ranch. This particular area encompasses 415 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:39,160 approximately 410 acres of land and allows for development of a mix of uses located near 416 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:45,400 West University and I-35. The last comprehensive ordinance for the Razor Ranch overlay was 417 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:52,080 adopted in 2016. Staff will be working with a consultant to provide another comprehensive 418 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,080 ordinance and add that to our current DDC just so we have those standards in a centralized 419 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:03,380 location. So with that, I'll pass it back over to Cameron to cover the Fry Street overlay 420 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:12,000 and the historic districts. Thanks, Mia. So moving on to Fry Street overlay, this is located 421 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:19,440 in our DDC section 4.6, but it covers approximately 12 acres and is divided into two sub areas, 422 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,720 sub area A and B as you can see on the map here. It does apply to all buildings, structures, 423 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,400 sites and properties within that district. It does allow for that multifamily dwelling, 424 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,720 which we obviously see in our sub area B, which you can see in our photo here at Fry 425 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:40,280 and Hickory Street in the lower right hand corner. It does also regulate off street parking, 426 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,640 solid waste containers and signage and it does have district dimensional standards involved 427 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,800 and it does look at lot dimensions, setbacks and other standards such as height maximum 428 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,600 as well as coverage. In addition to that, we do have additional standards for sub area 429 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,320 B, which is that multifamily apartment complex, that mixed use that we see and it does regulate 430 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,640 site landscape and building and parking designs and those site plans are specifically shown 431 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:15,720 within the DDC. Moving on to our historic districts, we do have three local historic 432 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:22,480 districts within Denton, the Oak Hickory Historic District, which is covered in 4.9.4, our Belle 433 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,880 Avenue Historic District, which used to be a conservation overlay and this is located 434 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,640 in our subsection 4.9.5 and then lastly our West Oak Area Historic District, which is 435 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,960 located in 4.9.6 and all of these buildings within the historic districts are reviewed 436 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,440 under our Secretary of Interior Standards, also known as the standards and they also 437 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:48,680 do within their overlays have additional individual architectural requirements that they that 438 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:55,920 are overseen by the DDC such as fencing, ordinary maintenance, window replacements, things such 439 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,640 as that. So just to kind of give you all a general idea of where these historic districts 440 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,600 are, I circled the square, the Oak Hickory Historic District is probably our most well 441 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:12,280 known historic district and that's located west of the square along West Oak and these 442 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,880 are just an example of some of the properties that are in that area, but you can see a historic 443 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,300 building and the building today and once again these are kind of why we have these regulations 444 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:27,840 in place to show and retain that historic character that we have here in the city. Another 445 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,000 example Belle Avenue, which is located just north of T.W.U. campus, but once again that 446 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,640 historic photo and then the building today. And then lastly the West Oak Area Historic 447 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,020 District, which is located a little bit further west along West Oak, generally between Houston 448 00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:51,200 Place and Hickory Street. So moving on to the Denton Square District, this is located 449 00:39:51,200 --> 00:40:00,640 in subsection 4.10. The district is outlined there kind of in that brown tan color and 450 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,080 I wanted to start the local landmarks within this district. These are properties that are 451 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:12,240 under HLC jurisdiction as local landmarks so I just wanted to highlight that. But when 452 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,640 it looks, when we're looking at the Denton Square District, this did get implemented 453 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,960 in June of 2019 and it also falls under the Secretary of Interior Standards for Historic 454 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,280 Properties, but we're also looking at an individual set of guidelines which are located in the 455 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,000 DDC, but also in their own packet and that is the Denton Square District Standards and 456 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,640 Guidelines. And this really is regulating the built environment so that we're looking 457 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,820 at building orientation, setbacks, materials being used and ultimate goal of it is to promote 458 00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:50,840 and preserve the square and to look at proper context and proper infill. So as we're kind 459 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,640 of wrapping this presentation up, we just wanted to share where you can find these different 460 00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,720 overlays on our Denton interactive map. So you can go to our GIS maps, click on planning, 461 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,240 go under the subcategory to overlay districts and then you'll see all our districts there 462 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,400 that you can click on so you have a better idea of where all these are. As you can see, 463 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,000 most of them are located more centrally within our 288 loop in the I-35, but then we also 464 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560 have our municipal airport overlay on the west side of the city and then we have Unicorn 465 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Lake a little bit further south, south of I-35 east on the southeast edge of the city. 466 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:34,120 And as we wrap up here, we have our helpful links, the standards which I just discussed, 467 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,080 the Denton Square District Guidelines, Preservation Plan, Zoning Map, Comprehensive Plan and Community 468 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,720 Code, but we are free to stand for any questions. Thank you, Mia and Cameron. Any questions 469 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:52,600 from the commission? Mia, can you go back to the historical lake district for the downtown 470 00:41:52,600 --> 00:42:04,040 area? Just a pure curiosity. So the STARD, the STARD properties have to fall underneath 471 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:10,240 the HLC guidelines, but then the entire, our entire historic overlay applies to all buildings 472 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:16,840 within there? Correct. So the STARD are local landmarks, so they have additional jurisdiction 473 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:23,040 under HLC, so HLC has to review those. Just those properties. Yes, correct. But when we're 474 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,680 looking at the square as a whole, that does have its own kind of set of standards separate 475 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,440 from HLC. Gotcha. I'm guessing HLC is more strict than our standards are. Yes, correct. 476 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,960 Okay, got it. So basically it's like the entire down there has one set of strict standards 477 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,560 and then those STARD ones have even more strict on top of that. Correct. Okay, just wanted 478 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,360 to make sure. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So any other questions? Thank you all very much for 479 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,000 your hard work. Appreciate it. Okay. That brings us to clarification of agenda items 480 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,640 for tonight. I'll give a few notes to make sure if you guys saw the emails that came 481 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:06,880 in. Item 3E FP 22-0027A has been withdrawn by the applicant. And then items 4C and 4E 482 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,520 both had revisions that were emailed out. 4C, just whenever we make a vote, it'll be, 483 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:19,440 if it is a vote for approval, it will be with the modifications as prescribed in the presentation. 484 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,160 And then on 4E, if approved for a vote with modifications as presented on some revised 485 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:33,000 ordinance text. So you guys should have all received that. Okay. First item then 2A, consideration 486 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:40,560 of the of the meeting minutes from August 24, 2022. Any comments or questions on that? 487 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:48,560 Okay. Seeing none, move on to 3A ZCP 22-0018. I think that's Mia Hines coming on up for 488 00:43:48,560 --> 00:44:06,400 that one. Okay. Good evening again, members of commission. Mia Hines, associate planner. 489 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,640 Just a brief overview of this agenda item. It is a request for a site plan approval for 490 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:19,880 a razor ranch medical office development phase three. The site is approximately 2.065 acres 491 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:28,360 located at the southeast corner of Panhandle and I-35 frontage. And staff will be recommending 492 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,640 approval of this request as it meets the established requirements. Just a brief reminder that the 493 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,920 reason that this is a zoning compliance plan, which is typically approved administratively, 494 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,240 but the reason that this is coming before this body is because it's within the razor 495 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:47,040 ranch south campus. So Tina, do you have anything to add in there? Got you. All right. Thank 496 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,640 you, Mia. Any questions? All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. I think you got the 497 00:44:51,640 --> 00:45:03,720 next one. FP 22-0028. Mia, I'm telling you, we're going to combine all these into one 498 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:13,200 PowerPoint and make it super easy. I should. I should. Okay. Good evening again. This is 499 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,700 a final plat for the razor ranch addition. At this time, the plat, I'm sorry, located 500 00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:24,760 south of university, east of I-35. At this time, staff is recommending denial as the 501 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,560 plat doesn't meet all of our approval criteria. However, we have no objection to the request 502 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:40,440 extension to a date certain of September 28th, 2022. Okay. Any questions? All right. Three 503 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:50,720 for three, MP 22-0011B. Oh, that is me. That is you. Sorry. You're good. Okay. This is 504 00:45:50,720 --> 00:46:03,880 a minor plat located within the city's ETJ at the northeast corner of March and, sorry, 505 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:12,840 I can't read the street name. It is of J&J Acres. It does not meet all of our criteria 506 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:18,000 for approval. At this time, we tried to work with the applicant here last minute as well, 507 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,800 and we just weren't able to get to that point, so we are recommending denial of this case. 508 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,240 And we already gave an extension on this one. Yes, sir. Okay. Any other questions? All right. 509 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:38,360 Thank you, Mia. All right. Bring us to 3D PP 22-0022. Sean Jacobson to present. Good 510 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:45,760 evening, Chair and members of the commission. So, yes, this is PP 22-22, which is the prominent 511 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:53,280 square addition. It's a 36.13 acre site at the southeast corner of Loop 288 and University. 512 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,400 At this time, staff is recommending denial, but we do not object to the request for an 513 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:08,640 extension to that October 12th. Any questions? No questions? Okay. Thank you, Sean. 3E has 514 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:18,600 been withdrawn, so it's a 3F PP 22-0021A. Julie Wyatt to present. Good evening, Julie 515 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:26,200 Wyatt, Senior Planner with the City of Denton. This is PP 22-21. This is located between 516 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:33,840 Loop 288 and Mayhill. The purpose of this plat is to facilitate a multifamily development. 517 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,680 They still have to get an SUP for that multifamily development, as well as address some other 518 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:45,280 items on that preliminary plat. They have submitted for those additional requirements, 519 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,560 but they're not quite there yet, so we are recommending denial of the request. I'll be 520 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,160 happy to answer any questions. And we gave the extension last meeting, correct? Yes, sir. 521 00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:03,920 Any other questions? All righty. Thank you, Julie. 3G PP 22-0007A, all you. All right. 522 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:10,200 So this is for a single-family residential development south of Audra. It is the second 523 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,680 phase of a two-phase project. They have a couple of things they need to work through 524 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,120 on this preliminary plat, so we are recommending denial. However, we have no objection to that 525 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:26,560 extension that they requested. Okay. Any questions from the commission? All right. Thank you, 526 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:33,480 Julie. Last one, FP 22-0001. All right. This is for the Agave Ranch development, and you're 527 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,840 probably all very familiar with this one. They did get a plat or a preliminary plat extension 528 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,540 a couple of weeks ago from this commission. They're now moving forward with their final 529 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:48,760 plat. They do have some items that they do need to work through on this first phase of 530 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,880 their final plat, so staff is recommending denial. However, we have no objection to their 531 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,800 requested extension, and I'll be happy to answer any questions. Okay. Any questions 532 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:06,680 from the commission? I know there was an email sent in, Julie, from the North Denton Neighborhood 533 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,200 Association. I don't know if you had a chance to review any of those comments they had in 534 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,880 there and would be willing to address it. I don't want to go through line by line item 535 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,200 on there on a plat with an extension request, but are any of those things been brought to 536 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,120 the attention of the applicant to be able to address? It seems like they're referencing 537 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,960 things that were put into the overlay as originally approved. Yes. So we went through the concerns 538 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,960 with that neighborhood association, and they were related to those overlay conditions. 539 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,760 So this zoning was approved a couple of years ago with overlay conditions with the adoption 540 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,340 of or the implementation of the 2019 Denton Development Code, those transition to a PD. 541 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:51,060 So any development on the site has to conform to that, and that has to do with land use 542 00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:56,320 as well as screening and other open space requirements. We did go through their concerns. 543 00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:01,720 A lot of their concerns were related to those amenities that are required of the development, 544 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:09,120 some trail systems, some park amenities. Those are things that are typically or those aren't 545 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,200 reflected on final plots. Those are reflected in the development of the site. So the applicant 546 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,000 has reserved those common area open space lots that are going to be maintained by the 547 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,640 HOA to accommodate those landscape buffers and open space amenities that are required 548 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,880 by the applicant, but that wouldn't be reflected on the final plot. Only the reserved space 549 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,920 will be reflected on the final plot? Yes, sir. Got you. Okay. I know there was a question 550 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,200 about phasing, but I think we understand they're doing this in I think three phases, correct? 551 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:44,040 They are. And staff, the way their plot does reflect, the phasing is a little unconventional, 552 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,360 so we have asked them to be a little clearer with their resubmittal so that it's very clear 553 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,920 going forward how that phasing is approached in those remainder areas. 554 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,600 How do they make it more clear on the plot? There really isn't a set rule as to how an 555 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,960 applicant could address these. It's pretty open-ended in terms of our Denton Development 556 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,080 Code and the Texas Local Government Code, but we just want to make sure that however 557 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,680 they choose to say that this is phase two or phase three, that it's just very clear 558 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,240 on the plot. Got it. Okay. All righty. Any other questions 559 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:23,080 from the commission? Thank you, Julie. Thank you. Appreciate it. That brings us to item 560 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:31,040 number four, public hearings, 4A PD 22-0006 and Cameron Robertson to present. Good evening, 561 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,920 commissioners. Cameron Robertson, historic preservation officer and principal planner. 562 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:46,520 There it is. Okay. So this is for PD 22-0006. This is a request for a planned development 563 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:52,800 with MN-based zoning for an approximately 36,000 square foot home zone furniture showroom 564 00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:01,500 at the southeast corner of University Drive or also known as US 380 and Ector Street. 565 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:06,320 It is consistent with other commercial development along US 380. The majority of the parking 566 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,280 would be placed at the front of the lot and the property or the building itself would 567 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:17,860 be centered between that north and south property line along that western edge to mitigate impact 568 00:52:17,860 --> 00:52:22,560 for those residential properties to the south. It is also staff found that it is consistent 569 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,920 with our Denton 2040 comprehensive plan and staff is recommending approval. And I can 570 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:35,960 take any questions. Any questions, commission? Commissioner Pruitt. Thank you, vice chair. 571 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,840 Just qualitatively so that we're all on the same page, is there a particular main reason 572 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:48,480 why this is decided to go to the PD route and the main zoning category wouldn't apply 573 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:55,520 or wouldn't be sufficient for the proposed development? So currently it is an MN zoning 574 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:01,920 district. If we went the just MN zoning district, we would not be allowed to have front parking. 575 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,460 The parking would be near the rear nor near those residential properties. Additionally, 576 00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:12,760 we would have to have that SUP for a general retail use over 15,000 square feet. So what 577 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:19,600 this PD is trying to provide is proper infill, more contextual that is more compatible with 578 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,800 the properties, commercial properties along US 380 as well as to reduce the impact to 579 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:30,800 those residential properties at that southern edge. Okay. Thank you. Tina. And to that point, 580 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,120 I think Cameron explained that very well. Normally we would not advocate the planning 581 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:40,020 and zoning commission consider planning plan development district requests for single lots. 582 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:45,400 But in this case, as Cameron pointed out, we felt it was an appropriate solution to 583 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,400 be able to address this infill development. We understand why the MN zoning was put in 584 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,700 place, particularly from a land use perspective. But when it comes to the existing surrounding 585 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:59,880 development conditions, especially if you look at the existing grocery store that is 586 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,320 immediately to the West, that it would only be appropriate to consider this type of solution 587 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,600 as it relates for the development of that property. So otherwise you normally hear us 588 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:18,520 on our soapbox about our caution on using PDs. Trust me, we hear it. Thank you. Is the 589 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,840 applicant have a presentation tonight, Cameron? They do not have a presentation, but they 590 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,600 will be here for Q&A. Okay. I'll just ask the question here because it's more of a 591 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,480 piece of curiosity. Are they going to shut down the other home zone over off 288 or is 592 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,520 this going to be a second location in the city of Dunlap? From my understanding, this 593 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,840 would be a second location. Okay. Understood. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any other 594 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:56,140 questions? All right. For BZ22-0004A, Mia Hines to present. Thank you. Mia Hines, just 595 00:54:56,140 --> 00:55:03,200 a brief description of this request. It is to amend the text associated with the Razor 596 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:11,120 Ranch overlay district's allowance of multifamily within the Razor Ranch South Campus. Specifically, 597 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:18,960 they are wanting to add 200 multifamily units. Currently, the Razor Ranch overlay district 598 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:24,800 standards allows for up to 1800 multifamily units within the Razor Ranch South Campus. 599 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,760 They're wanting to increase that to 2,000 and it's just a zoning text amendment. They 600 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,760 aren't trying to include it in an area where it isn't already permitted or anything like 601 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:38,680 that. As part of this though, we wanted to further clarify, visually speaking, where 602 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:45,680 multifamily is permitted on the zoning concept plan just to show, again, it's something that's 603 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,840 already listed within the standards where multifamily is, but just to visually show 604 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:56,200 and have a visual representation of where multifamily is permitted. With that, staff 605 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,680 is recommending approval of the request as it complies with the applicable sections of 606 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,520 our DDC and I will take any questions you have at this time. 607 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:12,200 Any questions for the commission? I've only got one. I know you just made the presentation 608 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,200 on overlay districts a minute ago on work session reports. This feels a little bit of 609 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,480 cart before the horse in the sense that you referenced that there was going to be a review 610 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,240 of that Razor Ranch overlay district and is that correct in understanding what you said 611 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:31,560 earlier? Not a review, but a compiling of Razor Ranch ordinances the way that they're 612 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:38,280 amended. Every amendment doesn't include the entirety of the Razor Ranch district development 613 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,920 standards. What we're wanting to do instead of when I'm looking at a specific sub area 614 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,560 and reviewing it, I have to go find the specific ordinance and then point to those specific 615 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,680 development standards within that specific ordinance. What we're wanting to do is compile 616 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,440 the changes and amendments and add that to as an appendix to our 2019 DDC just so it's 617 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,120 much easier for us to access and it's much easier for the public to access as well. 618 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,480 I know we've made amendments in the past, but I just know the city staff started working 619 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,080 on this. We're making changes to it, but if we're just compiling them all together, then 620 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:13,680 what's another one? So, okay. Well, and to that point, what I would add is given all 621 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,720 of the ordinance amendments that have transpired over time, this is going to be a complex project 622 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,880 for us to consolidate, and we had started on an effort and then the person who was working 623 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,000 on it is no longer with that entity, so we're basically having to start over again. So, 624 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:35,640 we don't want to cause any delay with the applicants project in this particular case. 625 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,080 So, as for right now, we believe it's appropriate to go ahead and allow for this means of addressing 626 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,080 the need. Got it. Thank you. Any questions? 627 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,120 Okay. Thank you, Mia. Thank you. 628 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:59,240 Brings us to 4C, S21-0008, Ron Megida to present for us. 629 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:16,640 Thank you, Chair, members of the commission. I'll take my glasses off so I can see. Again, 630 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,040 Ron Megida, principal planner of development services. The request is for a specific use 631 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:27,640 permit as introduced for an equipment sales and rental use. The equipment sales and rental 632 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:35,640 use is part of a U-Haul commercial business, which will consist of office, warehouse, self-storage, 633 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,240 as well as the equipment sales and rental uses as requested. It is located here, as 634 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:48,760 you can see in yellow, just north of 380, east of Spring Valley Drive, and, again, approximately 635 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:58,560 5.892 acres in size. The site plan that you see here, you hopefully had received the revised 636 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,600 version of it. I just want to highlight a couple things. Obviously, it's going to be 637 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,800 made up of three buildings. Building A will be where the office and front of the business 638 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:16,680 will be located with also warehouse spaces to store the U-Box containers. So that is 639 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:22,520 primarily what Building A will serve. Building B is the location of the self-storage units. 640 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Those are individual units rented by individuals, again, to store their items. Similarly, Building 641 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:37,260 C will have similar type units for individual renters to rent those units. The specific 642 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:44,400 use permit, as again introduced, is really to allow for the equipment rental and sales 643 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:51,800 area or use, and that is displayed here in what is shown highlighted in this darker gray 644 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:59,040 shading, one location here as well as the other area, which is shown over here. Also, 645 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,280 want to make mention as part of the conditions, which I will highlight in a second, there 646 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,960 will be some locations where those U-Box containers will be stored temporarily. This is to allow 647 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:16,120 for those individuals that own those U-Boxes to empty or load them again from the U-Boxes 648 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:22,720 to their units or vice versa, as well as a U-Box display only, which will be located 649 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:28,320 in front by the front entrance, and this will be just for that purpose to display that type 650 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:36,440 of use or that type of container. I'll go straight to the recommendations or the conditions 651 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:42,160 that is staff is recommending approval of the specific use permit with the following 652 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,200 conditions. Condition one is primarily making sure that the site plan as well as the landscape 653 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:53,200 plan is followed and complied with. If there are any changes, they will require a new specific 654 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,280 use permit. Now, there is some allowances for some slight changes to the landscape area, 655 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:03,920 up to 5%, but again, all other changes will require a new specific use permit. Storage 656 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:11,440 of the U-Box containers are prohibited outdoors. They must be located within an enclosed structure. 657 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,980 Again, except for those that we mentioned earlier that you saw earlier, the display 658 01:01:15,980 --> 01:01:20,560 one will be located in front. That will be outdoors, as well as those temporary stored 659 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:26,760 containers, again, right in front of building B. Those will also be outdoors if there is 660 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:32,040 a need for them, and again, that area is specified in the site plan, and that is the only area 661 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,520 in which those U-Boxes will be located. That concludes my presentation. I'll stand for 662 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,520 any questions. 663 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,520 >> Commissioner Perot. 664 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:50,200 >> Thank you, Vice Chair. Just one, when staff was evaluating this, did you look at the proposed 665 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:58,440 alignment of the 380 to 288 bypass on TxDOT's future projects, and how does that impact 666 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,520 this area, or is it further north of this? 667 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:06,880 >> I think it's further north of this, and I know Karina, who also was part of this review, 668 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,980 and I'm getting a head nod as well. So yes, the transportation department, as well as 669 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:13,920 our other engineering department, looked at that specific alignment. 670 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,920 >> Thank you. 671 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:22,440 >> Any other questions to the commission? I think the only question I have is I know 672 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,520 on DCRC on Monday, we were looking at the next item we were going to discuss was outdoor 673 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,520 storage, and I just didn't know, with you leaving the charge on that, how much, you 674 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,800 know, the changes and the recommendations that are within here are going to align with 675 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,040 some of those recommendations city staff was going to make to changes to outdoor storage 676 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,040 in the DDC. 677 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,640 >> Yes, the goal, right, and again, we won't get into that because I think posting, we 678 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,440 want to make sure we don't get outside of that. 679 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,520 >> Sure, I understand. I guess more of is we're not going to create a nonconformity 680 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,120 if there is some sort of change, ultimate change that gets created in the development 681 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,760 code later on down the road for outdoor storage. It seems like this has been very strict in 682 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,400 the way that it's restricting outdoor storage, and I guess to make it more, so that Hillary 683 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,800 doesn't hit me over the head in a minute, I've seen U-Haul facilities before that have 684 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,520 trucks that are stored all over the place on the site itself. I don't, I see it talks 685 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,920 about the U-Haul, the U-Box containers. I don't think this has actual truck rentals 686 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,280 there, so it's just storage facilities and the U-Boxes themselves, and that the U-Boxes 687 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,000 are being contained to only the temporary areas and the display areas. Is there anything 688 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,000 I'm missing on that? 689 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,560 >> So, no, these will include trailers and trucks as well, and because these are displayed, 690 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,160 you know, for immediate rental and for sale, they will be allowed, and that is something 691 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,760 that the development code will allow and, or does allow and will allow in the future. 692 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,720 >> But for, but for display, it's out there, but then for the actual storage of them, they'll 693 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,280 also be outdoors back there. 694 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,240 >> Correct. Correct. So, storage is a little bit, you know, different versus display, you 695 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,240 know. 696 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,240 >> Sure. 697 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,360 >> The ones that are not necessarily immediately for, you know, sale or rental, those are what 698 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,600 we're referring to as display, and I'm sorry, for as storage. 699 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,600 >> Yeah. 700 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,840 >> So, those are a little bit more stricter in what we would require. 701 01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,840 >> Okay. Got it. 702 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,640 >> Commissioner Smith, if I could add to that. So, keep in mind, the DDC has a use that's 703 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,360 considered equipment, sales, and rental, and so, and then we also have outdoor storage. 704 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:16,200 So, in this particular instance, we've evaluated this as equipment, sales, and rental because 705 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,720 of the trucks and trailer component. The U-box container is a little bit of a unique situation 706 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,480 associated with this, and we felt like it aligned better with the equipment, sales, 707 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,540 and rental component of their business, but the standards that this request has been evaluated 708 01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:34,200 against are based upon the requirements that we would have in place for equipment, sales, 709 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,420 and rental, which may have some differences compared to our standard outdoor storage regulations. 710 01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:43,480 So, not to split hairs, but it does to some extent. 711 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,480 >> Gotcha. Thank you. Commissioner Anderson. 712 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,600 >> Thanks, Chair. Are there going to be open 24 hours to the storage units? Because, I 713 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,680 mean, there's a neighborhood right behind it, and I wouldn't want to live in that neighborhood. 714 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,400 >> My understanding is that they're going to have some, no, they'll be closed, is my 715 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,600 understanding. So, there'll be business hours where there will be closed hours. 716 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,800 >> But they don't have a code where they can come in and punch in and go to the storage 717 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,920 unit, all that stuff. 718 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,840 >> Not that, I mean, the applicant is here, and they'll be able to answer that question. 719 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,200 My understanding is even with that, they will not be allowed to enter the building during 720 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,200 closed hours. 721 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:25,440 >> Okay. Any other questions for the commission? Okay. Thank you, Ron. Brings us to 4D, DCA 722 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,080 22-0005. Ron, your project as well. 723 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:48,440 >> All right. Okay. This is a development code amendment related to multifamily dwelling. 724 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:54,720 And, really, the genesis of this code amendment started off with how we are to address multifamily 725 01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:00,320 living. And those that are, you know, on the commission are familiar with these, these 726 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:05,640 are ones where they're on a single lot, and they are developed with either a single family 727 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:12,320 or duplex or even a triplex or fourplex on a single lot again. And so, trying to categorize 728 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:17,120 what that type of use is, it's a fairly new residential type. We, you know, struggled 729 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:23,320 with it. We actually processed it as PDs in the past. But after learning more of the function 730 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:28,720 and the way it's developed and what it's being used as, we felt that it was more of a multifamily 731 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:35,320 use. So, therefore, staff is recommending that we categorize it as a multifamily, have 732 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,240 adjusted that by, you know, refining and clarifying the definition of multifamily so that it would 733 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:46,040 include this type of use. We're also adding additional standards to enhance the multifamily 734 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,200 development. Again, as a result of adding this, I want to make sure that we address 735 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:56,800 these other, you know, components such as a single family type of housing. So that is 736 01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:03,580 what is under Section 533D. That will be included in there to address specifically those buildings 737 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:11,080 that have one or two units. Lastly, we wanted to make sure that we address dimensional standards 738 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:18,720 under MN where the housing, or sorry, the height limit is 41 through 65 would require 739 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:24,320 a specific use permit, and that applies to all uses. We are actually limiting that or 740 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:29,920 applying that only to where it's adjacent to residential uses, and I'll discuss that 741 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:36,400 in our presentation during the public hearing. The DCRC met on this several times, three 742 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:43,760 dates specifically. Therefore, after meeting with staff and reviewing the proposed code 743 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,680 amendments, they've recommended that this be moved forward to the Applying Zoning Commission 744 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,560 and City Council. The sections that we saw here, or that you see here, pretty much what 745 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:57,980 I described earlier, we were going to work on the definition of multifamily. We're proposing 746 01:07:57,980 --> 01:08:02,320 some main amendments there, adding that use specific standards for those buildings that 747 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:08,640 have one to two units, and then also that MN district dimensional standards as it relates 748 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,960 to building, maximum building height. That concludes my presentation. I'll stand for 749 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:24,240 any questions. Any questions for Ron? Okay, seeing none. Thank you, Ron. Last one for 750 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:35,680 EDCA 22-0006. You all heard a little bit about plan developments 751 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,640 or overlay districts as it relates to plan developments. The reason for this code amendment 752 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:49,200 is really to develop a more comprehensive PD procedure from rezoning it to a plan development. 753 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:58,720 One of the major additions that we're proposing, staff, is the option for an overlay plan development. 754 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:04,560 What will result is there will be two types of PDs if this were to be approved. One, an 755 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:10,260 overlay, which is a little bit more or less involved as far as types of submittal requirements. 756 01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:17,240 It's a little bit more to address the compatibility or the issues that are more related to adjacency. 757 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:23,000 That is what is being proposed. We're also looking at clarifying what submittal requirements 758 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:29,840 are for standard PDs. The current development code has it, but we felt that there was a 759 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:37,720 need for more clarification. Adding more information related to PD amendments. As we get more PDs, 760 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:43,440 more amendments will follow. Staff is recommending that we delete the notification requirements 761 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:49,520 for minor amendments. Currently, the requirement is to notify property owners. Again, we felt 762 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,680 that that was not necessarily needed for minor amendments as opposed to major amendments. 763 01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:00,640 Lastly, looking at the criteria for approval for rezoning to a PD, we added a little bit 764 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:06,680 more information and more criteria so that when staff looks at it, when the Planning 765 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,800 and Zoning Commission looks at it, and City Council, they have a little bit more of information 766 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:18,640 in which to make their decision. That basically summarizes the PD code amendments. 767 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:25,560 Any questions for Ron? I've only got one. Ron, can you just walk through what is a minor 768 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,880 amendment and a major amendment when it comes to a PD? 769 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,760 Sure. Generally, a minor amendment is something very simple where it doesn't affect the site 770 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:45,320 layout. It doesn't affect the number of units or parking or any major design element. As 771 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:51,160 opposed to the major, which if they're proposing a change in their street configuration or 772 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:58,000 access, that sort of thing, a little bit more substantial. That is something that is considered 773 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,880 major. The full description of that is available on your backup if you need to. We can pull 774 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,480 that up during now, or we can pull it up during the public hearing. 775 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,000 No, I just wanted to make sure you said it out loud. 776 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,080 Commissioner Smith, if I could ask Ron a quick question. I seem to recall we had some corrected 777 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,440 text. Are you addressing that in your public hearing presentation, or was that sent out 778 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,640 previously? Yes, that will be part of the presentation 779 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:27,440 in the public hearing. Okay. Got it. All right. Thank you, Ron. Appreciate 780 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:30,600 it. Before we close work session, I just want to 781 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,760 recognize and say welcome back to Corina Maldonado for coming back from maternity leave and welcome 782 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:41,600 back on as a transportation planner. Everyone go over there and say hi to Corina. Glad you're 783 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:47,280 back and rolling. With that, I will close our work session at 544 and we will reconvene 784 01:11:47,280 --> 01:12:03,400 in council chambers at 630. Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton 785 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:10,240 planning and zoning meeting on September 14, 2022. I'll call our public meeting to order. 786 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,040 First item of business is item number one, pledge of allegiance to the US and Texas flags. 787 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:21,660 Please stay with me if you're able. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 788 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:28,720 of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, 789 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:36,640 with liberty and justice for all. Honoring the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the 790 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:46,200 United States of America and Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. 791 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:52,160 Thank you. All right. On to item two, consider approval of the planning and the zoning meeting 792 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:57,800 minutes for meeting of August 24, 2022. Commissioner Villarreal. 793 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,520 I move approval. I didn't see who the second was before I 794 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,440 got away. Commissioner Anderson. 795 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,560 Second. Okay. First and a second for approval. 796 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:18,800 Go ahead. Take a vote. Take a vote on the board. 797 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:28,000 That passes 6-0. Moving on to item three or item 3A, ZCP 22-0018. 798 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:42,920 I'll ask up Mia Hines. Mia Hines, associate planner. 799 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:52,080 This item is a zoning compliance plan for Razor medical office building phase three. 800 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,480 This is coming before this body, and I'll get into that subsection here in a second, 801 01:13:55,480 --> 01:14:00,040 but this is coming before this body as it is within the Razor Ranch South Campus and 802 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:05,560 any site plan within that development area requires approval by the Planning and Zoning 803 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,560 Commission. So again, this is a consideration or considering 804 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,480 approval of the site plan for medical office development within the Razor Ranch overlay 805 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:19,680 district South Campus. The site, as you can see there to the right, 806 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:26,080 is approximately, or located at the southeast corner of Panhandle Street and I-35. 807 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:32,400 It's approximately 2.065 acres, and the area specifically that we're concerned about this 808 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:37,400 evening is the area highlighted in green. Previous phases for this have already been 809 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:42,640 developed and are existing, and this is just the phase three of that overall development. 810 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,960 So if you're familiar with the, I know you all are familiar with the Razor Ranch overlay 811 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:53,360 zoning, within the overlay are sub-districts, and then within those sub-districts are each 812 01:14:53,360 --> 01:15:00,600 parcel is further subdivided for conceptual land uses allowed within that particular area. 813 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:07,240 So this site is zoned within the RCCD Zoning District. It's part of the Razor Ranch Overlay 814 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:14,080 District South Mixed Use District, and the uses permitted on this site, as you can see, 815 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:19,960 they're highlighted in the box, the red box, are hotel, retail, office uses, and multifamily. 816 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,360 And so with them proposing medical office, that use is of course permitted within this 817 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:28,880 particular site. For Razor Ranch site plans, and this is sort 818 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:34,960 of what I was, I'm sorry, for Razor Ranch site plans, what we're going to look at for this 819 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:43,000 particular site is Ordinance 2011-225, specifically the architectural standards established in 820 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:50,560 Exhibit C-2A and the landscape standards established in Exhibit D-2A. And with the Zoning Compliance 821 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,840 Plan package, we took a look at the site plan, the landscape plans, and the four-sided building 822 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,960 elevations. Additionally, the Razor Ranch Overlay District 823 01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:06,520 and the 2002 DDC provides criteria for approval for site plans within this sub-area of Razor 824 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:14,040 Ranch, specifically the site plan should substantially comply with the concept and schematic plan. 825 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:20,040 The site plan provides for a compatible arrangement of buildings and land uses. The site plan 826 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:25,000 provides for the adequate and safe circulation of vehicular traffic, and the site plan fully 827 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,120 complies with all other sections of the Overlay District. And so those are things that we 828 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,240 checked to make sure were addressed as we were reviewing this Zoning Compliance Plan 829 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:38,120 package. Additionally, with the development and the 830 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:45,720 approval of the site plan for Phase 2, came some conditions with that approval as it relates 831 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:52,720 to the eventual development of Phase 3. Specifically, one stipulation was that plant materials approved 832 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,920 for Phase 2 and the amended Phase 1 should not be removed in future phases unless they 833 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,280 could be successfully replanted using equivalent or similar material. Additionally, the minimum 834 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:10,680 open space requirement shall be maintained for all approved and future phases of land 835 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:15,160 included within Lots 1R, which is there shown to the south, and then Lot 2, which is our 836 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:21,440 subject lot this evening. So here's the site plan, and of course a detailed version was 837 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:27,920 provided within the backup. Existing on the site for the overall razor medical development 838 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:33,480 is a 15,000 square foot building and an approximately 22,000 square foot building. Currently there 839 01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:40,080 are 193 parking spaces, and as you can see, shown in there with the light orange color 840 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,640 and the light yellow color, there is one driveway access point off of Panhandle. That's only 841 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,980 a right in and a right out. And then there's a cross access point through Phase 2 into 842 01:17:50,980 --> 01:17:56,960 Phase 1 and a cross access also to the east. So with the addition of Phase 3, which we're 843 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,080 focusing on this evening, the applicant is proposing an approximately 9,000 square foot 844 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:08,120 medical office building on Lot 2, shown there in green, 37 additional parking spaces, and 845 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:13,820 then that driveway there to the northwest would be a full access point, right in, right 846 01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:20,480 out, left in, left out, and straight ahead as well. So the landscape plan, in looking 847 01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:27,560 and reviewing this particular plan, we wanted to make sure that the minimum requirements 848 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:33,900 as established in the 2002 DDC and the razor ranch overlay districts were met, namely minimum 849 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:38,960 one tree per 45 linear feet. That was actually, if you look at the image to the right, all 850 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:44,400 of the lighter green circles are existing plantings approved with previous phases. If 851 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,400 you recall the approval criteria I mentioned earlier, one of the stipulations was that 852 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,320 anything approved within the previous phase should not be removed unless they could be 853 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:58,200 replanted as a part of this Phase 3. They are not proposing to remove any of those plantings. 854 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:03,880 They are adding two trees within the parking area and then some screening there along the 855 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:09,880 east. So those standards are being met. Excuse me. Additionally, within that, as you can 856 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:14,200 see by the table, those minimum open space requirements for the entire site are being 857 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:20,800 maintained as well. So here are the elevations with the proposed 858 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:27,520 material and color screen there to the right. That image that you see at bottom center is 859 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:33,560 an existing building within Phase 1 of this development. So as you can see, both the proposed 860 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,320 elevations and color and material scheme match with what is existing within the razor medical 861 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:44,040 development. So with that, staff is recommending approval as the request does meet the established 862 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:49,480 criteria of the RROD development standards, and I will stand for any questions that you 863 01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:58,320 may have at this time. Thank you, Mia. I don't see any questions 864 01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,320 at this time. Thank you. 865 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:07,760 Does the applicant have a presentation or is that it? Nothing? Okay. All right. This 866 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,080 is not a public hearing, but as an item for individual consideration, anybody who would 867 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:17,800 like to speak may do so with three minutes. Okay. Seeing none, I'll open the floor to 868 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:23,040 a motion or approval. Commissioner Anderson? Make a motion to approve. 869 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,800 Okay. I've got a motion to approve. Commissioner Villarreal? 870 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:31,000 Second. Okay. I've got a second. Commissioner Perot? 871 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,000 I've got technical difficulty if I come back up. We're good. 872 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,680 Good? Okay. All right. We have a motion and a second for approval. We'll call for a 873 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:55,540 vote on the board. Nothing? Okay. On this item, we'll take a vote 874 01:20:55,540 --> 01:21:02,240 via roll call. We got a recusal. How should we handle that? 875 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:09,720 I was going to say if Selena can reset it, you're more than welcome to take a vote that 876 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,720 way. Okay. All right. We'll take a vote. Commissioner 877 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:19,640 Anderson, Commissioner Villarreal, will we make a motion again? Okay. 878 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:37,720 All right. Motion passes 6-0. Sorry for the technical difficulties there. Okay. Bring 879 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:43,160 this to item 3B, FP22-0028. Mia, your presentation as well. 880 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:54,680 Good evening again, members of the commission. Mia Hines, Associate Planner. So this is a 881 01:21:54,680 --> 01:22:01,400 final plat request for Razor Ranch addition located at the southeast corner of West University 882 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:08,880 and I-35. The plat at this time does not meet all of our approval criteria, and so staff 883 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:15,280 is recommending denial. However, we do not have any objections to the requested extension 884 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:23,260 to October 12th. Okay. Thank you, Mia. Commissioner Villarreal. 885 01:22:23,260 --> 01:22:25,960 To approve the extension to a date starting of October 12, 2022. 886 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,480 Okay. Got a motion to extension. Commissioner, approve it. 887 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:35,440 I have a second. The first and the second. Any discussion? Okay. Seeing none, I'll call 888 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:51,080 for a vote on the board. That motion passes 6-0. Moving on to item 3C, MP22-0011B, and 889 01:22:51,080 --> 01:23:00,280 Mia Hines come on back up as well. Thank you. Again, Mia Hines, Associate Planner. 890 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:07,840 This is a minor plat application for J&J Acres. The property is, at this time, the plat does 891 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:13,680 not meet, I'm sorry, located at the northeast corner of Warshin and Green Valley Circle. 892 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,920 At this time, the property does not meet the standards and approval criteria within our 893 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:24,120 ordinance, and so staff is recommending denial. Okay. Thank you very much, Mia. Any questions? 894 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,120 Commissioner Anderson? Has there, was this brought up in the work 895 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:33,280 session? Was there already a previous? There was. Yeah, there was a previous extension 896 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,280 already given. That's correct. 897 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:41,560 Yes. All right. Thanks. Okay. All right. Seeing no other speakers, I will call for a motion. 898 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:48,160 Commissioner Villarreal? Move to deny. Okay. Got a motion to deny. Commissioner 899 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,160 Pruitt? Second. 900 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:54,960 Okay. We have a first and a second for denial. Any discussion? Okay. Seeing none, I'll call 901 01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:02,600 for a vote on the board. Just a reminder, a vote yes is a vote yes to deny. Okay. Motion 902 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:12,200 passes 6-0. Item 3D, PP 22-0022, and Sean Jacobson to present. 903 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:18,760 Good evening, Chair and members of the commission. Sean Jacobson, Associate Planner, presenting 904 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:29,520 PP 22-0022, a preliminary plat for the prominence square addition. At this time, staff is recommending 905 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:38,480 denial of this plat for a property on the southeast corner of Loop 288 and University 906 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:43,080 Drive because it does not meet our standard of approval. However, staff has no objection 907 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:49,640 to the requested extension to October 14, sorry, October 12. 908 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:53,600 Any questions for Sean? Okay. Commissioner Pruitt? 909 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:59,080 I'll move to approve the applicant's requested extension to date certain of October 12. 910 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,040 Okay. Got a motion to extend. Commissioner Anderson? 911 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,040 Second. 912 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:11,800 Okay. With a second. Any other discussion? Okay. I'll call for a vote on the board. Motion 913 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,560 passes 6-0. Item 3E has been withdrawn by the applicant. So that's FP 22-0027A that 914 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:27,440 has been withdrawn. So I'll move down to 3F, PP 22-0021A. Julie Wyatt to present. 915 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:31,960 Good evening. Julie Wyatt, Senior Planner with the City of Denton. I'm presenting PP 916 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:40,480 22-0021A. This is for a preliminary plat for the Forest Crossing Phase 2 addition. The 917 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:46,240 purpose of the preliminary plat is to facilitate a multifamily development. They do have some 918 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:51,480 items that they have to address with the preliminary plat, including moving forward with a specific 919 01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:57,280 use permit for that use. And so staff is recommending denial. They have received an extension, so 920 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,120 there is not an option for an additional extension. I'll be happy to answer any questions. 921 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,200 Okay. I don't see any questions, Julie. Thank you. 922 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,520 I'll take a motion and discussion. Commissioner Villarreal? 923 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:10,520 Move to deny. 924 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,480 Okay. Got a motion to deny. Commissioner Cole? 925 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:13,480 Second. 926 01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:19,800 Okay. Got a second. With a first and a second to deny, I'll ask for a vote on the board. 927 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:31,000 Okay. That motion passes 6-0. Moving on to 3G, PP 22-0007A. I believe that is Julie Wyatt 928 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,000 as well. 929 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:39,840 Good evening. This is PP 22-0007A. This is for the Audre Oaks addition. It's for a single-family 930 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,160 residential development south of Audre Oaks. They do have some items they do need to work 931 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:48,960 through in order for it to meet our criteria for approval. So staff is recommending denial. 932 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,240 However, we have no objection to the requested extension to October 12th. I'll be happy to 933 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,240 answer any questions. 934 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,040 Okay. I don't see any, Julie. Thank you. 935 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,040 Thank you. 936 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,280 I see a motion and discussion. Commissioner Cole? 937 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,360 I make a motion extension to October 12th, 2022 meeting. 938 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,000 Okay. Got a motion for extension. Commissioner Anderson? 939 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,000 Second. 940 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:20,440 First and a second, hanging in the discussion. Call for a vote on the board. That motion 941 01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:29,640 passes 6-0. Our last item of individual consideration, 3HFP 22-0001. I'll call Julie Wyatt as well 942 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:30,640 for that project. 943 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:36,520 Good evening. This is for a final plat for a phase of the Agave Ranch development. The 944 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,000 item, they do have some items that they do need to correct on the final plat before we 945 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:47,000 can recommend approval. So we are recommending denial. However, we have no objection to the 946 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,240 requested extension to October 12th. I'll be happy to answer any questions. 947 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,880 I don't see any. Thank you, Julie. 948 01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:01,280 Discussion or a motion? 949 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,280 Commissioner Pruitt? 950 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:07,880 I move to approve the applicant requested extension to a date certain of October 12th. 951 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:15,280 Okay. Second. Second for Cole. Okay. Any discussion? That's enough to call for a motion on the 952 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,280 board. 953 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:30,160 All right. That motion passes 6-0. Moving on to item four, public hearings, 4A PD 22-0006 954 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,680 and Karen Robertson to present. Evening, Karen. 955 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:43,340 Thank you. Good evening, commissioners. Let me pull up my presentation real quick. So 956 01:28:43,340 --> 01:28:52,120 this is for PD 22-006, home zone. This is a request for a PD with MN land uses for general 957 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:59,120 retail use larger than 15,000 square feet. It is located on approximately 2.407 acres. 958 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:06,600 It is located on the southeast corner of Ector Street and University, also known as US 380. 959 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:11,840 It is also situated between an existing commercial corridor, which is that US 380, as well as 960 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,920 single family dwellings along the southern edge. 961 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,600 So before I kind of delve into the development plan itself, I just want to kind of talk about 962 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,880 the difference between a PD and an SUP in this instance. So the reason this is going 963 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:33,120 through the PD process versus an SUP is to allow for consistent commercial development 964 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,720 along US 380. Currently, the project site is larger than two acres, so it does not need 965 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:43,640 our definition of infill development. Due to that fact, it has to be restricted with 966 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:48,680 that MN district. An MN district does not allow for front parking, and it is a little 967 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:53,640 bit more restrictive. So with the PD, this allows that commercial development to push 968 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:59,080 most of its parking along US 380 and to kind of match what we're seeing along that commercial 969 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:04,820 corridor to the north, east, and west with that Aldease. The applicant is also seeking 970 01:30:04,820 --> 01:30:11,300 to allow for all general retail uses, regardless of size, to be permitted on the property. 971 01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:16,880 So moving on to the development plan, it would be a maximum of 39 feet, four inches tall, 972 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,240 and it would be centrally situated along that western edge of the property, which is close 973 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:27,120 to Ector Street. It does allow for setbacks, beginning at a minimum of 55 feet near the 974 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:32,520 residential properties on the south and the east side. It does have a main entrance emphasis 975 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:40,440 along US 380. It also allows for vehicular access. Primary access would be from US 380. 976 01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:48,180 There would be a drive along Ector Street and cross access along Primrose Street. The 977 01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:54,080 development did reduce the parking number of parking spaces to 87 parking spaces, and 978 01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:59,980 the primary parking, as I stated, would be located along the frontage of US 380, similar 979 01:30:59,980 --> 01:31:06,200 to what you see across on the west side to Aldease. Additionally, there would be a tree 980 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:11,160 preservation area that would be located along the southern edge. Those are those trees highlighted 981 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:17,920 in green there. It would also provide a minimum six foot solid masonry wall along the southern 982 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:23,720 and eastern southeast edges for those residential properties. The development plan is currently 983 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:31,040 providing 21% landscape area. The minimum for MN districts is 20%. They'd also be providing 984 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:37,920 a 74% new and preserved tree canopy, which that minimum is 40% for MN districts. 985 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,280 So looking at the provable criteria, just a summary, the project is consistent with 986 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:47,280 Denton 2040 comprehensive plan, which I'll delve a little bit more into in my slides 987 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:51,760 after this. It does provide greater level of design quality as compared to a specific 988 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:56,640 use permit. It is compatible with the surrounding area, especially that commercial corridor, 989 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:02,520 and it does provide public facilities adequate to serve the development. 990 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:07,240 So moving on to the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan, I'll kind of keep this high level, 991 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,840 but it is a mix of community mixed use as well as low residential. Community mixed use 992 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:16,080 areas do accommodate greater density between that single family with neighborhoods and 993 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:20,480 commercial areas. And then low residential does include land uses that support residential 994 01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:27,920 neighborhoods. It is on a corridor focused area, which we do see US 380 remaining a significant 995 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:34,880 commercial thoroughfare in the city. It does implement, it is infill. It is basically filling 996 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:41,120 a gap in our neighborhood fabric along US 380. The property itself has been undeveloped 997 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,080 since the 1960s, except for that southern portion, which does have a residential property 998 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:52,000 on it. And it does provide context sensitive commercial infill. In regards to urban design, 999 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,600 as I stated earlier, the primary access would be along US 380, but it would allow for cross 1000 01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:02,800 access as well as onsite pathways to public sidewalks. And lastly, building scale and 1001 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,680 orientation, it is centered in the property along that western edge, trying to reduce 1002 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:13,120 the impact to neighboring residential properties to the south and southeast. 1003 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:18,320 Moving on, it provides an additional commercial option in this established area. As you can 1004 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:24,000 see on the aerial here, much of the corridor is already infilled. This is one of the last 1005 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:29,040 remaining properties on US 380. The existing size of the property does limit the size and 1006 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:33,800 scale of development. The applicant has reduced the parking and has placed the majority of 1007 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:38,640 parking towards the front of that property along that commercial corridor to keep it 1008 01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,880 away from the adjacent residential properties in the south and southeast. And it is a compatible 1009 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:48,800 land use and scale and form considering the single family residential as well as the adjacent 1010 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:54,600 commercial. There was public outreach done. There was a newspaper ad and property posted 1011 01:33:54,600 --> 01:34:03,440 both in August. Notices were mailed, 20 in the 200 foot, 118 in the 500 foot. We did 1012 01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:10,000 receive one response in opposition at 1207 Primrose Street. Staff is recommending approval 1013 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:17,440 of the request as it complies with criteria in section 2.4.5(e) as well as 2.7.3(d). 1014 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:21,360 And this is scheduled for the City Council on September 27th. And I can stand for any 1015 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:26,200 questions. Thank you, Cameron. I don't see any at this 1016 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:31,040 time. We do have a card from the applicant. I'll go ahead and call up Michael Clark to 1017 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:42,080 come up and speak. You'll have 10 minutes. Before you continue, I want to go ahead and 1018 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:49,620 open up the public hearing. Good to go? Okay. Sorry. Thank you. Good evening. My name is 1019 01:34:49,620 --> 01:34:57,840 Michael Clark. I'm with Winkleman and Associates, 6750 Hillcrest Plaza, Suite 215, Dallas 75230. 1020 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:02,720 Here representing Jason Adams and Home Zone. Jason is unfortunately out of town. We've 1021 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,520 had a couple delays and he was unfortunately not able to be here. I have the architect 1022 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:14,040 is with me here tonight and the broker if there's questions that I can't answer. Staff 1023 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:19,260 as always did a very thorough report for you guys. I'm not going to try not to be redundant. 1024 01:35:19,260 --> 01:35:26,240 But the Home Zone, what we're proposing here is a showroom, has very little traffic. Any 1025 01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,280 basically people come in, they look at furniture. Furniture is delivered from their warehouses 1026 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:37,140 in Grand Prairie. So we have very little truck traffic, very little vehicular traffic actually. 1027 01:35:37,140 --> 01:35:42,080 Staff is in agreement with our parking request for a slight deviation in the required parking. 1028 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:48,480 We actually think we need significantly less than that for what we're proposing here. We've 1029 01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:53,600 worked diligently with staff, worked trying to preserve trees, get the parking. To get 1030 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,720 where we're at here today, we had a, pardon me, we had, I believe, a very productive meeting 1031 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:03,320 with the homeowners. They expressed some concerns. We, I think, alleviated many of them with 1032 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:08,920 the low traffic and the showroom and the low trucks. I think... 1033 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:16,880 We'll have public comment. You'll have public comment here in a minute, Mr. Anderson. So 1034 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,800 if we can, we'll just let the applicant go ahead and present. Sorry, sorry, go ahead. 1035 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:26,280 From, as I said, we had a public meeting and we invited as many as we thought we could. 1036 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:31,520 If I did something incorrectly or obviously somebody didn't get invited, I apologize for 1037 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:37,080 that. We have coordinated cross access with the commercial uses to our east as staff directed, 1038 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:41,440 quite frankly, not to throw them under the bus or anything, but the cross access to Prim 1039 01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:46,600 Rose is really more for them than us. We don't envision using that little narrow alley that 1040 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:51,680 goes out to Prim Rose for anything other than for them to eventually, if they redevelop, 1041 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:58,280 get access jointly with us. Pardon me, with us. So with regard to Prim Rose and the access 1042 01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:03,040 there, we don't envision using that in any way. That being said, I'm happy to answer 1043 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:08,280 any questions and reserve any time I have left to answer any other questions possibly. 1044 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:14,760 Are there any questions for Mr. Clark? How did you notify the neighborhood of the public 1045 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:24,360 meeting you're going to be having? We, how did we, Jerry Clark was our contact 1046 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:28,040 given to us for the HO, for the Homeowners Association. I'm sorry, it's been a number 1047 01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:34,320 of months ago. Jerry Clark was our contact and he established the meeting with the Ector, 1048 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,920 I apologize, I can't remember the name of the organization, but we set up a meeting 1049 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:43,600 at a local church down on Ector, just a few blocks south of the site, but he was the one 1050 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,720 that coordinated it. Were you in attendance there? Yes, sir. 1051 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:54,600 How many folks showed up? 15, 16, Gary? Perhaps 20. Okay. 1052 01:37:54,600 --> 01:38:00,360 It wasn't a huge number, but it wasn't three. Okay. All right. What were the main concerns 1053 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:07,280 are brought about the neighborhood? They were concerned about the homeowners immediately 1054 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:12,440 to our south were concerned about the proximity. We discussed the height of the building and 1055 01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:18,240 the actual separation that we were preserving trees there and the lack of truck traffic. 1056 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:24,040 I think made them feel more comfortable. The rest of the homeowners were, I think, generally 1057 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:32,320 concerned about traffic and I think the showroom use and the seriously very limited amount of 1058 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:40,240 traffic was what made them feel more comfortable. Okay. All right. I see other questions for 1059 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,860 you, Mr. Clerk. Thank you very much. This is a public hearing. I do have two other 1060 01:38:43,860 --> 01:38:49,720 cards that are wishing to speak. I'll start with Crystal Rainey Anderson. Come on up and 1061 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:54,160 introduce yourself, give your name and the address and then you have for a public hearing 1062 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:59,960 four minutes to speak. Okay. My name is Crystal Rainey Anderson and 1063 01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:06,680 I am here representing my mother, Janet Rainey. She lives at, we live at 1207 Primrose Lane, 1064 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,200 Denton, Texas, which is exactly right behind where they're proposing to build this home 1065 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:17,120 zone. I have a letter of opposition that she sent in. She wanted me to read here today. 1066 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:22,680 She says, "I am opposed to the rezoning of the property. I'm strongly opposed to a home 1067 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:29,680 zone project. I brought my property in 2009 and have spent over $150,000 remodeling and 1068 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:35,200 adding to it. It is my retirement home and home for my daughter, son-in-law and two grandsons. 1069 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,040 My property value would decrease tremendously. Between the proposed retaining wall and my 1070 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,240 back fence, there would definitely be a dead space where homeless people could and would 1071 01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:49,400 camp creating trash pileups and who knows what else. Right now, I have an uninstructed 1072 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:54,120 view from my back patio and kitchen window. If this project is approved, I would be looking 1073 01:39:54,120 --> 01:40:00,080 at a back of a business instead of the sunset and clouds, which we regularly enjoy. There 1074 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:04,940 are tagged trees next to my back fence that cannot be removed. These trees provide shade 1075 01:40:04,940 --> 01:40:09,660 and help kill these. I also don't want to hear delivery truck beeps or garbage trucks 1076 01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:14,200 dumping at four o'clock in the morning like they do down the street at Enterprise. According 1077 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,840 to the plan, the dumpsters will almost be in line with my bedroom window. That is not 1078 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,800 acceptable. Not only that, but I also do not want to sit on my back patio and listen to 1079 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:29,000 the delivery trucks at their docking bay at any time in the day. Although this is not 1080 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,880 a food service business, there would still be employee food trash and bathroom trash 1081 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:38,440 that would attract rats and guess where they would end up. If this property is approved, 1082 01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:44,600 I would be concerned because of the outside lights and security cameras. The eight foot 1083 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,600 retaining wall will not prevent these lights and cameras from shining into my backyard 1084 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:53,280 or even my bedroom windows. I don't want my backyard lit up at night. I have grandchildren 1085 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,000 that play in the backyard and I do not want security cameras looking in there. That is 1086 01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:02,920 an invasion of privacy. Home zone is a very affordable furniture store because the furniture 1087 01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:07,520 is cheap and poorly made. I know because I bought from them and had to get a refund. 1088 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,360 I do not believe this location will benefit them and they should move up the road to raise 1089 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:16,740 a ranch. The traffic would increase down Ector and Emory and Primrose. It is hard now to 1090 01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:21,560 make it across Ector from Emory with the increased traffic. I'm sure there will be accidents. 1091 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:26,440 It's almost impossible to make a right-hand turn onto University from Ector. There have 1092 01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:31,760 been several wrecks there already. I understand that there was a neighborhood meeting of which 1093 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:36,760 we did not get invited to some weeks ago. I know that the owners who are notified of 1094 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:42,920 this were the vitamin shop owner and the 1300 Ector owner. Why were not the rest of us 1095 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:47,280 invited? We don't know what was discussed at this meeting. The first time we knew about 1096 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,840 this was when one of the owners who were invited provided my next door neighbor a copy of the 1097 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:57,200 plan. I would like to know why we were left out and others left out of that meeting. There 1098 01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:02,040 were five homeowners, three retirees, that would be greatly affected by this project. 1099 01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:07,400 We would slowly be overtaken by other businesses and I'm sure none of us are in favor of this. 1100 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:11,920 We are all residential zoning, not a retail business. We want to enjoy our homes to the 1101 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:16,160 stage of our lives. I don't want to leave this area, but if this project is approved, 1102 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:20,960 most likely my house will go up for sale. Please do not approve this project. Keep the 1103 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:30,320 neighborhood. We don't want them in our backyard. Thank you for your comments. Next to speak, 1104 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:35,080 Mr. Kurt Anderson. You'll have four minutes to speak. Just state your name and address 1105 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:40,600 and your four minutes will begin. Hi. My name is Kurt Anderson. I live at 1207 Primrose. 1106 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:48,800 This is my wife, Crystal. Son-in-law, I take care of the property. I also take care of 1107 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:57,200 the easement behind the property. The tagged trees are an issue and also you have tagged 1108 01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:10,320 trees that go into approximately maybe 30 yards into those properties on the easement 1109 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:20,520 line from where they're going to exit to Primrose. You go down, you look down that line, that 1110 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:26,560 tree line, all those trees are tagged. You go look down this side, all the trees are 1111 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:35,560 tagged. You know, I maintain that area. I keep it clean so the vagrants and the homeless 1112 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:44,220 don't camp out. I had an incident last year, last July. Someone broke into my shed. I found 1113 01:43:44,220 --> 01:43:52,160 two homeless men on the other side of my fence in a bunch of brush. Covered up. They had 1114 01:43:52,160 --> 01:44:02,120 a nice little pad and 25 feet easement. All it's going to do is attract homeless. We're 1115 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:11,680 going to have a rat problem on top of more traffic, whether it's, you know, Primrose 1116 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:19,360 actor. People are going to be going, you know, if they miss the driveway, they're going to 1117 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:25,800 come in Primrose. You know, I've got kids out there. I like to play. You know, you're 1118 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:33,760 going to increase the traffic. You're going to have, you know, what's -- my question is 1119 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:40,520 how is the state going to deal with the infrastructure? Are they going to put lights in Primrose 1120 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:49,480 and lights at the other entrance so people can get out safely? You know, I oppose this. 1121 01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:57,960 You know, I'm a man of few words. I don't usually speak up like this, but this is going 1122 01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:09,680 to be an issue. Not just for us. Security wise, lights, it will be 24/7. That's an invasion 1123 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:20,520 of privacy. And they can't do anything but do that. They have to. That back line, you're 1124 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:25,600 going to get a lot of people coming in and out of there, going to those dumpsters to 1125 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:32,760 pick furniture, and it's going to end up in that alley because that's where they're going 1126 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:39,800 to put it. And guess who's going to occupy that furniture? Homeless people. I've got 1127 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:48,120 nothing against homeless people. I was homeless for six years. I came to Texas to change my 1128 01:45:48,120 --> 01:46:00,240 life. Okay? I have no problems with them. Their shelters being built, hopefully it accommodates 1129 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:08,700 the masses. But you're still going to get people in there. No matter what you do, people 1130 01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:13,640 are still going to camp out there. Because it's going to be hidden. And it's going to 1131 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:24,440 be hidden well. Unless you can supply a patrol that goes through that easement, pave it up, 1132 01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:34,440 preserve the trees, make a nice alleyway through, and that goes all the way from 380 to actor. 1133 01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:47,080 That easement. Like I said, I oppose this. And thank you very much for your consideration. 1134 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:55,640 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Cameron, I have a couple questions for you based off 1135 01:46:55,640 --> 01:47:01,920 what the public comment was made on that. Traditionally when we have neighborhood notification 1136 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:10,920 for any type of neighborhood meetings, are we providing the 205 foot, 500 foot radius 1137 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:15,600 addresses to the applicant? How does that -- I've never actually ever asked before how 1138 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:20,920 does an applicant get the addresses for inviting out neighborhoods? They source it themselves? 1139 01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:26,680 How do they go about that? So we usually provide those addresses as well. But that meeting 1140 01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:32,320 did take place in January of 2022. So it has been a while. I assume as staff that I provided 1141 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:37,840 that, but I'm not positive. I do know that they went through the HOA first. Okay. Okay. 1142 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:43,960 Thank you. Another question I had. There was a question about lights and access at Hector 1143 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:50,320 and Primrose. I'm assuming a TIA was completed for this project and there wasn't. I know 1144 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:56,600 that TxDOT controls 380, but we don't see any major TIA impacts that come from that 1145 01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:05,480 to predicate a stoplight. Let me grab the quick numbers real quick. Sure. I will provide 1146 01:48:05,480 --> 01:48:14,880 them. So in regards to our trip generation report, it would generate approximately 238 1147 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:22,560 daily trips with 10 morning peak hour trips and 18 evening peak hour trips. Okay. Thank 1148 01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:30,200 you. Okay. Any other questions for Commissioner Anderson? On the presentation, can you go 1149 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:39,200 back to the lot? I want to see what's going to happen that's going to back up to Anderson's 1150 01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:46,960 property. This photo right here? Yes. The little red arrow. Yes. I'm looking at a map 1151 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:51,840 here and I don't see where that arrow is going to come out. Is it going to come out by the 1152 01:48:51,840 --> 01:49:02,960 building at 1201 or 1211 Primrose? Yes. I believe that is correct. As staff, I do want 1153 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:09,920 to preface though that the egress and the ingress and the cross access can change as 1154 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:17,640 part of the PD standard stipulations. So there is additional, I guess, wording included in 1155 01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:23,640 our development standards to allow for changes at the CEP phase. There's not going to be 1156 01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:31,240 a grass 30 foot area between their house and it's going to be paid parking, correct? Yes. 1157 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:36,320 Not only 9% is allowed to be paid, but yes, there will be some paid parking behind that. 1158 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:43,720 Okay. Could I ask the developer, I mean, could I ask you a question, please, sir? The other 1159 01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:49,560 concerns they had were lights. Are there going to be tall lights facing the properties on 1160 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:59,980 Primrose and Hector? Cameron, how do I bring it back up? No, go ahead. Unfortunately, they 1161 01:49:59,980 --> 01:50:04,360 weren't at the meeting, so they didn't hear if those questions were brought up and answered 1162 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:11,800 or not. That's good. Thanks. As far as lighting goes, that was discussed in the meeting and 1163 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:16,640 one of the things that we will do, or not one of the things, there will be no pole lights 1164 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:21,920 at all behind the building. Everything will be on the building, wall packed, shielded. 1165 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:27,400 So just the bare minimum of light for security in the back. Okay. But back inside, my apologies. 1166 01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:33,760 Okay. Now cameras, are there going to be cameras facing their property looking in their backyard? 1167 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:40,400 I don't know that. Yeah, I apologize. I don't know that, but I assure you that if we have 1168 01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,480 cameras with an eight foot wall, they will not be able to, they won't be high enough 1169 01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:49,000 to be in their yard and I'm not trying to make light of it, but we will not be searching 1170 01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:55,520 in their backyard. It will simply be for our security. And may I answer a couple other 1171 01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:01,560 questions if I could? Sure. Absolutely. Perfect. Thank you. The lights were one of them. The 1172 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:08,280 garbage, actually we would just as soon not have a dumpster. They recycle all cardboard 1173 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:14,120 and all styrofoam inside. We're required to have a dumpster. So we've got a double dumpster 1174 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:19,640 and we certainly don't need two. But I understand, I deal with rules all the time. That's what 1175 01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:24,240 we're showing. So the dumpster is not, I mean, it will be, it will be utilized. Any commercial 1176 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,360 property is going to have a dumpster. It's not trying to make light of that either, but 1177 01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:34,520 it will not be heavily used. And food products, houses have trash. I mean, we have employees 1178 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:39,600 who might have some food trash, but that's it. I mean, there is no food product here. 1179 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,400 And one other thing with the lights, we close at eight o'clock. This is not a, not a late 1180 01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:48,340 night operation. So the lights on would be just for security reasons only. That's correct. 1181 01:51:48,340 --> 01:51:52,000 And they're, they're not as bright as. No, and they'll be shielded. They'll, they'll, 1182 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:58,040 I don't know how to describe it exactly, but it'll be basically just a light on the wall, 1183 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:03,280 just shining and with a cutoff fixture, basically just, just like the drive. Okay. Okay. Thank 1184 01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:11,640 you. Terribly described, but not a bit as just answer your question regarding the lighting. 1185 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:15,840 So as part of the DTC, we will be looking at lighting specifically during the building 1186 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:21,040 permit process as part of the DTC, all lighting does have to face downwards. It cannot face 1187 01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:30,360 out and it cannot shine on neighboring properties. Thank you. Any discussion? Questions for city 1188 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:37,000 staff or applicant? Okay. Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and look to the dais 1189 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:48,880 for a motion or discussion. I closed the public hearing already. And then you use your, your 1190 01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:53,080 four minutes. I'm, I'm sorry. There will be time at city council as well. If you want 1191 01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:57,240 to bring up any of the points that you do have, and I'm sure camera will be able to 1192 01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:01,160 visit with you afterwards to be able to questions that can be worked out with the applicant, 1193 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:09,040 but I did close the public hearing now. So we do have to move forward. I apologize. Motion 1194 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:19,840 or discussion? Okay. Commissioner Cole. I'll make a motion to approve. Okay. A motion to 1195 01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:27,360 approve commissioner Anderson. A second. And man, I just want to say one thing. Unfortunately, 1196 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:32,200 three 80 is going to be building up and, and, and, you know, this is going to be a lot lower 1197 01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:36,600 traffic than something else. I believe that would eventually come in there. So I just 1198 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:43,480 want to say that to you guys. Sorry. Okay. We got a motion, a second to approve. So you 1199 01:53:43,480 --> 01:53:57,220 know, the discussion on the board, I'll ask for a vote. Okay. The motion carries six zero. 1200 01:53:57,220 --> 01:54:01,200 And I believe, uh, just for those that are spoke, um, the, it will be seen at council 1201 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:09,560 on September 27th, uh, in this room at, at six 30. So the 27th of September. Yes, sir. 1202 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:18,840 In this room. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh, that'll take us to item four B Z 22 0 0 0 4 a I'll 1203 01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:38,800 be Mia Hines to present. Now open the public hearing at this time. Okay. Good evening again. 1204 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:46,000 Members of the commission, Mia Hines, associate planner. Um, this is, uh, this item on the 1205 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:52,640 agenda is a zoning change for the razor range overlay district regarding the number permitted 1206 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:58,900 number of multifamily units within the South campus. So the request is specific to specifically 1207 01:54:58,900 --> 01:55:08,800 to amend the text of, um, section 35.7.15.7 subsection 8.1 C and a two of the razor ranch 1208 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:14,640 overlay, uh, development standards. Currently the, those standards allow up to 1800 multifamily 1209 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:20,120 units, um, within the South campus where multifamily is permitted. Um, and the applicant is proposing 1210 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:25,800 to increase that to two, a total of up to 2000 multifamily units, um, within the South 1211 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:30,240 campus. Um, as a part of this request, the applicant has provided, um, a, an exhibit 1212 01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:35,040 sort of clarifying where a multifamily is permitted. Um, they aren't changing any underlying 1213 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:41,000 zoning or any, um, um, conceptual lean uses that are already existing and already permitted 1214 01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:46,040 within the razor ranch South campus. Um, they are simply sort of clarifying for visual purposes 1215 01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:51,720 where multifamily is permitted, um, on that exhibit. And this is sort of what I was talking 1216 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:56,160 about there. The area highlighted or the area in the center highlighted, um, in the sort 1217 01:55:56,160 --> 01:56:01,520 of light pink color is considered what we call the razor ranch town center area. Um, 1218 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:06,360 as you can see, it just has that RR1 designation as it currently exists. They're shown there 1219 01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:12,480 to the left. Um, and the, we would just further clarify that with, um, the MF, um, next to 1220 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,360 it. Again, MF, multifamily is already permitted within the town center. This just visually 1221 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:23,440 clarifies that point. Um, so in reviewing this request, since it is a simple text amendment, 1222 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:27,800 we looked into the razor ranch overlay development standards to see if there was a specific review 1223 01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:33,080 criteria, um, and there, uh, was not within those overlay standards. Also anything within 1224 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:38,640 the razor ranch, um, development that does, is not specifically listed, um, in the standards, 1225 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:45,560 uh, is subject to the 2002 DDC. And the 2002 DDC did not have any, um, criteria for approval 1226 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:51,760 specifically related to amending overlay text, um, um, and regulations. And so with that, 1227 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:56,800 we brought it forward to what we currently go by, um, and, and, and, uh, reviewed the 1228 01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:04,600 request, uh, pursuant to the, um, uh, criteria for approval located in sub-chapter two of 1229 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:09,600 the current DDC. Um, specifically, I just wanted to point out that, um, the, the future 1230 01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:15,920 land use map area designation for this site is regional mixed use. Um, and so with that, 1231 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:22,280 if you look in our 2040 comprehensive plan, the, um, intended, uh, area or that, that 1232 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:27,880 area is intended for development, proposing residential commercial office entertainment 1233 01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:33,400 and other uses except industrial at the highest level of scale and density within the city. 1234 01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:38,760 So if there were anywhere to support and promote additional density and additional multifamily, 1235 01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:44,120 um, um, uh, dwelling units, it would be within where we have within our future land use map, 1236 01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:49,200 regional mixed use. And so that's, uh, part of the, the, uh, support, um, for this project. 1237 01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:56,040 Um, additionally, there are, um, design standards, uh, specifically applicable to multifamily 1238 01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:01,080 developments within the Razor Ranch South Campus, namely a minimum of 7% parking area 1239 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:06,420 landscape coverage, a minimum of 15% parking area tree canopy coverage, and a 15 foot wide 1240 01:58:06,420 --> 01:58:12,020 landscape screening buffer around parking areas. And that sort of aids in the, um, minimizing 1241 01:58:12,020 --> 01:58:18,480 adverse impacts on surrounding properties, wherever multifamily would develop. Um, so 1242 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:22,840 with that pursuant to our DDC and state law, we did do public outreach. And as the time 1243 01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:30,600 of this report, we have not received any opposition or any responses in opposition to this request. 1244 01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:34,880 So given that, uh, staff recommend staff is recommending approval as it meets the criteria 1245 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:40,880 I discussed, um, earlier. Um, a part of the backup that was sent to you was a, a red line 1246 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:44,620 essentially showing what those changes are. That has been modified a little bit just to 1247 01:58:44,620 --> 01:58:49,040 provide further clarification. It's still, um, that they are, the applicant is requesting 1248 01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:55,520 to increase from 1800 up to 1800 multifamily units to 2000. Um, but instead of what the 1249 01:58:55,520 --> 01:59:00,600 wording has, and I believe that that was shared with you in advance of this meeting, um, instead 1250 01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:05,880 of the wording provided within the packet, we're, we would like to go with, um, um, what's 1251 01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:11,400 here and that would be the remaining 750, um, multifamily dwelling units can be built 1252 01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:15,960 within the density zone or outside of the density zone within any sub district in the 1253 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:20,860 South campus. And so that's something that is already exists. Um, it's already in place, 1254 01:59:20,860 --> 01:59:24,920 but it further clarifies, cause as it reads currently, um, one would think that those 1255 01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:30,680 remaining 750, um, need to be outside of the density zone. And that's certainly not the 1256 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:35,440 goal, um, here. So with that, I'll stand, oh, following the decision of the recommendation 1257 01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:40,440 of this body, this is scheduled for the September 20th city council meeting and I'll take any 1258 01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:44,600 questions or comments that you may have. The applicant is also here with a brief presentation. 1259 01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:53,000 Okay. Maybe questions for city staff. Okay. Uh, seating. Yeah. Thank you. Do I have one 1260 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,080 car to speak? And as the applicants, I'll ask Amy Bissett to come up and introduce yourself 1261 01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:01,640 as well as your address and you'll have 10 minutes to speak. Thank you. Amy Bissett, 1262 02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:09,280 97 land company, 109 North Elm, Denton 76201. I'm going to be very brief, but I do want 1263 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:13,040 to share a couple of quick things with you all. I appreciate being here this evening. 1264 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:19,440 Um, as you know, um, razor ranch is its own unique animal. It's an older, um, development 1265 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:27,000 code and it's, um, the 400 acres is regulated by a complex, um, zoning overlay ordinance. 1266 02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:32,720 But when you boil it down to its very base, um, there are 15 pages of a base ordinance 1267 02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:38,400 that really outlines the entire development. Um, it, it dictates the criteria for approving 1268 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:44,000 a site plan. Um, it dictates the land divisions on the North and South side of university, 1269 02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:48,900 um, indicates development standards and permitted uses. And on the South campus, there are three 1270 02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:55,320 primary sub-districts, the town center RR2 and the South mixed use district. The South 1271 02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:59,760 campus development standards do define the number of and type of dwelling units allowed. 1272 02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:06,760 Um, and they, it also defines a density zone, which, um, Mia showed on, on, uh, in her presentation 1273 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:10,920 and I've got another exhibit here showing the same. Um, really what I just wanted to 1274 02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:16,360 point out here is that, um, the design or the intent behind, um, the razor ranch overlay 1275 02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:21,380 district is that the multifamily would be, um, clustered around the 10 acre public park 1276 02:01:21,380 --> 02:01:27,560 that was dedicated by, um, the razor ranch developer and, um, provide those amenities 1277 02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:32,720 within walking distance. And, um, I'm going to show you an aerial in just a minute because 1278 02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:38,440 I think it's worth sharing, but, um, our request is simply to change a couple of sentences 1279 02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:44,360 within the text of those 15 pages. Um, the only substantive change is to increase the 1280 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:50,720 number of total units by 200 and, um, to provide some corrective text or really clarification 1281 02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:58,320 text on, um, where multifamily is allowed outside of the density zone. And then, um, 1282 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,640 Kevin Bankhead with Allegiance Hill View is here with me as well and, um, available for 1283 02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:06,720 any questions that you may have, but he sent this aerial to me not that long ago and just 1284 02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:11,080 wanted to share if you look, um, you're looking towards the density zone in this aerial with 1285 02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:17,360 the, you can see the, um, oop, got to flip right off of it, the 10 acre park here and 1286 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:22,000 you can see how the multifamily that's developed today is kind of clustered around that with, 1287 02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:28,240 um, immediate access to a very, um, nice public amenity. And, um, that's all I have and happy 1288 02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:33,160 to stand for any questions. Thank you. 1289 02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:42,600 Any questions for Ms. Bissett? Okay. Thank you. That is the only card I have, uh, to 1290 02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:47,240 speak. Anybody who has wished this public hearing, uh, to speak publicly may do so and 1291 02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:53,440 you can fill out a blue card afterwards. Okay. Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing 1292 02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:58,720 and I'll move to the dais for motion or discussion. Commissioner Cole. Make a motion to approve. 1293 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:03,840 Okay. Got a first for approval. Commissioner McDade? I second. Okay. Got a second. Well, 1294 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,880 the first and second for approval. No other discussion to be had. I'll ask for a motion 1295 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:21,720 or a vote on the board. Okay. That motion passes six zero. Okay. With that, we'll move 1296 02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:30,400 on to item four C that's 21 dash zero zero zero eight. Ask Ron McGee to come up to present. 1297 02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:32,920 Thank you chair. My name is the commissioner Ron McGee, a principal planner with development 1298 02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:45,760 services. Get my presentation. This, uh, request is public hearing now around. Okay. Great. 1299 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:51,680 Thank you. Um, this request is for a specific use permit to allow for an equipment system 1300 02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:56,520 sales and rental use, uh, the equipment sales and rental use as part of the U hall commercial 1301 02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:02,840 business, um, that you see here outline in yellow, um, north of university and just east 1302 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:09,520 of spring Valley drive. It's approximately 5.82 acres in size. Uh, the business will 1303 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:16,120 consist of an office warehouse self storage, uh, units as well as the equipment sales and 1304 02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:23,720 rental use, uh, that is being sought out after, uh, for this SUP. The future land use, um, 1305 02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:28,360 designates the area as community mixed use, uh, with some light industrial to the north 1306 02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:32,960 of the property. Uh, it was currently zone light industrial and as part of that light 1307 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:38,680 industrial zoning district, the equipment sales and, um, rental use requires a specific 1308 02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:44,800 use permit. This is the proposed site plan. Um, this site plan was emailed to the planning 1309 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:50,840 zoning commission, uh, prior to the meeting. Uh, it's an updated one that's, um, in, uh, 1310 02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:55,000 that's different from what was included in your packet that was sent out on Friday, uh, 1311 02:04:55,000 --> 02:05:00,840 really quickly to illustrate what the site plan includes. It includes a building a, which 1312 02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:08,240 will be the, uh, location where the office and the rental, um, uh, activity will occur. 1313 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:15,040 Uh, it also houses, uh, the you box containers, which will be part of the, uh, business. Uh, 1314 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:21,160 this warehouse will be, um, primarily where they will be stored, uh, loading and, um, 1315 02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:25,960 unloading will come from the back of the property, the rear, I'm sorry, the back of the building, 1316 02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:32,400 uh, the rear area that you see here, um, highlighted by the cursor. Building B is the location 1317 02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:38,040 of the storage units where individuals are able to rent out, uh, individual units in order 1318 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:43,720 to store their items. Uh, building C, which is further, uh, to the east, I'm sorry, to 1319 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:48,960 the west, uh, as well will be located, uh, will be where, uh, self-storage units will 1320 02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:55,800 be located. Um, the area where the equipment rental, uh, display areas, uh, primarily again 1321 02:05:55,800 --> 02:06:01,480 per this SUP will be located in the areas that are highlighted or shaded in gray in this 1322 02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:08,160 particular area, uh, along the, uh, western part of the property as well as this area 1323 02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:13,000 over here. Now the remaining areas that you see here in white, uh, those will be for the 1324 02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:20,040 purpose of maneuvering large trucks and other, um, uh, vehicles. Uh, but again, the display 1325 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:24,720 area and equipment rental area will be in this highlighted areas. Also important to 1326 02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:29,120 note in the site plan is two areas specifically as it relates to the conditions, which I will 1327 02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:34,600 be presenting in a few minutes. Uh, the area that you see here in orange is where there 1328 02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:40,920 will be temporary storage of U box centers, uh, send, uh, sorry, containers that is, uh, 1329 02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:46,440 where individuals who want to unload or unload their items from the U box containers into 1330 02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:51,040 their storage units that are able to, and that will only occur within the area that's 1331 02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:58,480 identified there and dimensioned as eight by 18 feet, uh, in size. The other area important 1332 02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:04,600 to note is the orange that's in front of building a, that will be the location of a U box container 1333 02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:11,880 display, uh, that will only serve as a display to help, um, uh, show what a U box, uh, container 1334 02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:19,320 is. As far as the landscape plan, um, the landscape plan complies with the landscape 1335 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:24,080 area tree canopy cover, uh, the street tree requirements as well as the buffer screening 1336 02:07:24,080 --> 02:07:29,160 and requirements, uh, per the development code. I want to make mention that the, uh, 1337 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:34,280 applicant as well as staff have worked hard in order to provide that screening that's 1338 02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:39,980 required or that's part of this proposal. You see that the area along university is 1339 02:07:39,980 --> 02:07:45,200 well landscaped with trees and, uh, landscaping also included. There's hard to see, but there's 1340 02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:52,400 also a berm that again helps screen, um, the, uh, the equipment cells and rental, um, and 1341 02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:59,360 just provides that additional landscaping that we would like to see on US 380. Criteria 1342 02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:04,560 for approval for, uh, SUPs are under, uh, section two five, I'm sorry, two four, uh, 1343 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:12,320 five E as well as two five two D. Uh, could summary, um, wise the proposal is consistent 1344 02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:17,040 with the goals and policies of the den 20 40 comprehensive plan. Uh, it complies with 1345 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:22,600 the ally zoning district purpose statement. Uh, the approval of the SUP is not expected 1346 02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:28,480 to generate any adverse impacts and the utilities and infrastructure is available as this area 1347 02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:34,240 is located within an urban area along three 80, uh, an area that, um, is, uh, somewhat 1348 02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:40,560 developed already, uh, with other uses newspaper, I'm sorry, uh, notifications were sent out 1349 02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:47,680 on includes newspaper as well as a website. Um, notice this, um, were, um, published on 1350 02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:55,320 our city website as of this afternoon, staff has not received any written responses. Um, 1351 02:08:55,320 --> 02:09:00,160 one public hearing sign was posted on the property, um, in advance of the meeting and 1352 02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:06,440 there were no neighborhood meetings held for recommendations. Staff is recommending approval 1353 02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:12,120 with this, um, issue for this USP requests with the following conditions. The first one 1354 02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:17,600 is generally to comply with the attached site plan and landscape plan. And again, the attached 1355 02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:21,920 site plan, um, that we're referring to is the one that was submitted with the changes 1356 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:27,360 that were, um, described. Um, if there were, if there are any changes to the site plan 1357 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:33,000 or the landscape plan, that will require a new specific use permit. Now there is allowances 1358 02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:38,000 for some landscaping, uh, adjustments up to 5%. But again, generally any changes will 1359 02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:44,280 require a new specific use permit. Uh, condition number two, uh, relates to the, um, you boxes 1360 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:49,760 or storage containers specifically, uh, they're not, they're not allowed to be stored out, 1361 02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:57,280 um, in, um, outside of the enclosed structure. Um, the change and the backup, we added that, 1362 02:09:57,280 --> 02:10:02,440 um, the last sense that you see there, this does not include the one storage container 1363 02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:07,080 located by the front entrance of building A for display purpose only. So that would 1364 02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:13,360 be something that would be allowed and it would be just that one, um, storage container. 1365 02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:18,320 Number three, um, again, changes, um, that were sent earlier, uh, prior to this meeting, 1366 02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:24,200 um, include the following that in situations when their storage containers are, um, temporarily 1367 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:30,200 stored outside of the, of the, um, uh, the building, uh, they're primarily to be used 1368 02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:36,600 by customers to load and unload, uh, their items. And they are, um, in an area identified 1369 02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:41,960 per the site plan. Again, as I illustrated in the site plan, an area of eight by 18 only 1370 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:48,360 that's where they would be located. Again, these changes, um, were made after the packet 1371 02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:55,120 went out, uh, after, um, staff and the applicant were able to further discuss, um, their business 1372 02:10:55,120 --> 02:11:02,680 plan. With that, um, staff, um, stands for any questions. The applicant is, uh, present 1373 02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:07,880 and does not have a presentation, but is, uh, open for questions or be available for 1374 02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:08,880 questions. 1375 02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:14,280 Thank you, Ron. I don't see any questions for you right now. So appreciate it. This 1376 02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:18,520 is a public hearing. Uh, anyone who's wishing to speak may do so. We fill out a blue card 1377 02:11:18,520 --> 02:11:25,040 afterwards if you'd like. Okay. Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and move to 1378 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:34,320 dais for a motion or discussion. Commissioner Cole. I make a motion to approve with conditions. 1379 02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:38,920 Okay. The motion approved with the conditions are presented. Commissioner Villarreal. Second. 1380 02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:47,880 Okay. Got a second. Um, chair, may I ask for a tiny adjustment on the motion? Um, to, just 1381 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:55,000 to confirm that it's as, um, as presented. Is that correct? Conditions as, as, as presented. 1382 02:11:55,000 --> 02:12:00,560 Yes, chair. Thank you. All right. Clarification of the motion. Uh, commissioner cold motion 1383 02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:05,880 to approve with conditions as presented and commissioner Villarreal seconds that. Okay. 1384 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:17,880 All right. Any discussion? Okay. Call for a vote on the board. That motion passes six 1385 02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:25,880 zero. Good luck in your project. All right. I'll move on to item four D D C a 22 dash 1386 02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:30,320 zero zero zero five, and I'll open the public hearing. Go ahead. Ron. Thank you chair. I'm 1387 02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:38,320 a commissioner on the principal planner. Um, this item is a code amendment requests initiated 1388 02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:44,680 by the city. Uh, it is for the purpose of addressing a new residential type that we've 1389 02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:51,120 seen the last, uh, I guess past year, uh, regarding, um, uh, horizontal multifamily 1390 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:58,440 living and those that actually seen and heard some of those cases, we've processed as can 1391 02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:04,000 you go to the full screen? I'm sorry about that. Um, these, uh, horizontal multifamily 1392 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:10,360 living have been processed as PDs, uh, primarily because we, um, we're trying to find a use 1393 02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:17,840 that fit, um, what their role functions are. After review and further, um, you know, study 1394 02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:23,480 of this type of use, uh, it was determined that the use is more in line with multifamily 1395 02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:28,840 as it is a single lot with multiple units. Uh, now these units are not typically what 1396 02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:34,960 you'd seen a multifamily as far as a vertical, um, type development. It does have some of 1397 02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:39,320 them have single family, uh, or single units. Some of them have two units. Some of them 1398 02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:43,920 at three unit buildings. Uh, so they're, they're not your typical, but again, by definition, 1399 02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:50,920 they fit the multifamily desk, uh, definition as such. We have updated the, um, or proposed 1400 02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:55,600 update the definition of multifamily. Uh, and that's part of this code amendment. We're 1401 02:13:55,600 --> 02:14:00,960 also adding a use specific standard, uh, to multifamily specifically to, uh, provide a 1402 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:07,380 little bit more design consistency for those buildings that contain one or two units as 1403 02:14:07,380 --> 02:14:13,080 part of a future multifamily development that more or less would resemble what you've seen 1404 02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:19,120 as a horizontal multifamily living type development. Uh, also in addition to the code amendment, 1405 02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:24,040 uh, this code amendment, we're looking at adjusting the, um, the, um, the dimensional 1406 02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:30,080 standards that is for the MN district, uh, where it requires a, uh, SGP for buildings 1407 02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:36,240 over 41 or 41 to 65 feet. Uh, and we're gonna, um, I'll further describe what we're proposing, 1408 02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:41,240 but really just focusing on where those buildings are proposed adjacent to residential uses. 1409 02:14:41,240 --> 02:14:46,600 And I've got, uh, uh, shared, uh, information that I'll share in the presentation or the 1410 02:14:46,600 --> 02:14:52,240 slide that's coming. Also make, I wanted to make note that the DCRC, um, held, um, three 1411 02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:56,640 meetings specifically to discuss this proposed code amendments. Uh, as you see here, April 1412 02:14:56,640 --> 02:15:03,920 22nd, May 27th and June 24th, uh, they, the development code review committee has recommended 1413 02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:07,680 this be moved forward to planning zoning commission and city council. And therefore we're, we're 1414 02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:12,720 here tonight, uh, for this, uh, item, uh, summary of the code amendments. Um, again, 1415 02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:17,120 we talked about the multifamily dwelling unit being, uh, amended. Uh, we're also adding 1416 02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:22,120 residential condominiums as it is referenced in that, uh, in the code. We want to make 1417 02:15:22,120 --> 02:15:28,620 sure that we provide a definition for it as well. Then you use, uh, use specific standard. 1418 02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:33,960 We're also proposing to add that as part of section five three three D, which is the use 1419 02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:38,480 specific standards for multifamily. And then lastly, uh, again, mentioning the dimensional 1420 02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:44,020 standards for MN, uh, we're looking to amend the, uh, height, uh, maximum building height 1421 02:15:44,020 --> 02:15:50,640 requirement as it relates for, uh, as it relates to the MN district. So, uh, with that, uh, 1422 02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:56,080 what you see on screen is the proposed definition of multifamily. Uh, you see that the, uh, 1423 02:15:56,080 --> 02:16:03,160 the red line and underline, um, in red are the added in or deleted, um, language. Um, 1424 02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:09,500 so as, uh, proposed, the definition of multifamily dwelling will, will be as follows, a single 1425 02:16:09,500 --> 02:16:16,760 lot containing five or more dwelling units. This definition includes residential condominiums 1426 02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:23,600 developed on a single lot. We're also proposing as mentioned, uh, a definition for residential 1427 02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:29,820 condominium dwelling. And that is, is going to read as follows, a pop, sorry, a property 1428 02:16:29,820 --> 02:16:37,160 comprise of multiple individual dwelling units on a single lot where each unit is owned separately. 1429 02:16:37,160 --> 02:16:41,480 Again, um, very similar to, um, multifamily, but we wanted to make sure that we gave it 1430 02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:48,560 a special definition as it is referenced in the development code. The use specific standard 1431 02:16:48,560 --> 02:16:55,220 that I was referring to is the one in red, uh, highlighted in underline that is, um, 1432 02:16:55,220 --> 02:17:00,880 it is for buildings containing one or two dwelling units. Uh, they shall comply with 1433 02:17:00,880 --> 02:17:06,760 the building mass and form standards as established in section seven, 10 three E, which is the 1434 02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:11,960 building mass and form. Again, this would only apply for those buildings that are part 1435 02:17:11,960 --> 02:17:20,360 of a multifamily, uh, development that contain only one or two dwelling units. The item, 1436 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:24,280 um, that you see here is related to, again, the build, uh, maximum building height for 1437 02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:30,920 MN. As you see note number two, um, that's where the changes are being proposed. Uh, 1438 02:17:30,920 --> 02:17:36,760 buildings between 41 and 65 feet. We've added the language adjacent to a residential zoning 1439 02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:44,320 district or adjacent to an existing single family detach dwelling townhome or duplex use 1440 02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:51,320 shall require a specific use permit pursuant to two five two of the development code. Now 1441 02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:56,560 the reason why you see, uh, single family detached dwelling townhome and duplex highlighted 1442 02:17:56,560 --> 02:18:03,520 is that this is something that was changed or amended and modified, um, after the development 1443 02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:11,720 code review committee, uh, made their recommendation. Um, the understanding of what we believe was 1444 02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:17,920 it was intended for these types of uses, but as it was presented to the DCRC, the development 1445 02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:24,000 code review committee, it only stated existing residential use. Uh, we wanted to go a little 1446 02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:30,880 further and really just focus on the uses that we felt that was the, um, uses that wanted 1447 02:18:30,880 --> 02:18:36,560 to, we wanted to see protected. And that again is the single family detached dwelling townhomes 1448 02:18:36,560 --> 02:18:42,560 and duplex uses. So that is different from what the DCRC recommended, but again, wanted 1449 02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:49,080 to make sure that we specify specifically those types of uses. Staff recommends approval 1450 02:18:49,080 --> 02:18:57,680 with, um, um, as it does comply or as it does meet the requirements of approval for code 1451 02:18:57,680 --> 02:19:02,600 amendments under section two, seven, four D of the DDC. And that concludes my presentation. 1452 02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:09,920 I'll stand for any questions. Okay. I don't see any Ron. Thank you. This is a public hearing. 1453 02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:16,960 Anybody who was wishing to speak may do so. You thought a blue card afterwards. Okay. 1454 02:19:16,960 --> 02:19:20,600 Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing. I'll move to the dais for a motion. Commissioner 1455 02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:27,960 to vote. Sorry. Before I take the motion, Tina Ron, could you please pull up that slide 1456 02:19:27,960 --> 02:19:31,920 that had the language with respect to the MN district? Something just caught my attention 1457 02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:38,800 on that as you were explaining that. So the note number two buildings between 41 and 65 1458 02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:43,840 feet, we have adjacent to a residential zoning district. We consider multifamily zoning districts, 1459 02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:50,560 residential districts, correct? It does include multifamily if yes. Okay. And given your explanation 1460 02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:55,800 that we were the reason why we were amending this provision was to not require a specific 1461 02:19:55,800 --> 02:20:00,800 use permit also for multifamily adjacent to multifamily. I believe we need to tweak the 1462 02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:06,680 text that's on the slide so that it says adjacent to a residential zoning district parentheses 1463 02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:12,440 excluding multifamily districts parentheses or adjacent to an existing single family detached 1464 02:20:12,440 --> 02:20:17,680 dwelling townhome or duplex use. So when he was presenting that, it caught my attention 1465 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:23,960 with the language that's proposed here. So it's kind of silly to require a specific use 1466 02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:28,940 permit adjacent to for a multifamily development adjacent to a multifamily development. So 1467 02:20:28,940 --> 02:20:34,400 the way this language that we have here is since we consider multifamily zoning districts, 1468 02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:38,760 residential districts, it's important that we make, we insert a parenthetical reference 1469 02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:43,160 that excludes multifamily districts. And my apologies that we did not catch that previously. 1470 02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:50,400 I guess going with our shorter presentations for work session, I missed that. And my apologies 1471 02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:54,680 for bringing that up at the dais, but I just want to make sure that we get that correct 1472 02:20:54,680 --> 02:21:00,120 and want to make sure that the commission would be in agreement with that change. 1473 02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:08,160 All right. Thank you, Tina. So this will have the change within there saying that footnote 1474 02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:11,600 number two adjacent to residential zoning district excluding multifamily dwelling use 1475 02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:17,440 or adjacent to an existing single family detached dwelling townhome or duplex use. So we've got 1476 02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:23,560 that in there. Okay. With that said, commissioner Villarreal, I'm sorry, before I go to commissioner 1477 02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:30,480 Villarreal, commissioner Peru. Sorry. Just a point of clarification. I'm trying to recall 1478 02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:36,120 where in our code it defines a multifamily district. I think we have our one through 1479 02:21:36,120 --> 02:21:42,920 our seven and then the other districts which allow multifamily are mixed use districts. 1480 02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:57,620 So I just want to make sure that the language is clear as intended. Does R7 allow multifamily 1481 02:21:57,620 --> 02:22:04,680 with this approval of a specific use permit? I believe so. Yes. Do we have any other residential 1482 02:22:04,680 --> 02:22:09,320 zoning districts that would trigger the multifamily? I guess we want to make sure that we are not 1483 02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:14,440 requiring an SUP for multifamily development adjacent to multifamily. And since we consider 1484 02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:20,160 adjacent to a residential zoning district, is it appropriate then to say excluding multifamily 1485 02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:28,400 uses or do we need to, I'd be concerned about excluding R7 altogether since R7 allows for 1486 02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:38,360 other residential uses, such as single family. So, yeah, so just to kind of clarify the multifamily 1487 02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:45,320 dwelling use is permitted in the residential zoning districts, but only in the R7 with 1488 02:22:45,320 --> 02:22:53,560 a specific use permit. So. Does that answer your question commissioner Peru? Yeah, I just 1489 02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:59,560 wanted to, maybe I was mishearing, but I thought we were referring to a term of multifamily 1490 02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:03,880 district, which wasn't defined in the code. And I appreciate you catching me because I'm 1491 02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:10,360 confusing my cities. So maybe what we do is on that language, excluding multifamily uses 1492 02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:17,000 in an R7 district. The whole intent was to remove that specific use permit requirement 1493 02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:22,440 for the additional height where it was adjacent to the, for multifamily uses where it was 1494 02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:26,720 adjacent to single family detached dwellings, townhomes or duplex uses, but also in our 1495 02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:30,760 code we were trying to be consistent with our language because we typically make references 1496 02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:39,680 to residential districts and then whatever additional qualifiers we add on there. So, 1497 02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:43,720 but I appreciate you catching me on that. So maybe it needs to be excluding multifamily 1498 02:23:43,720 --> 02:23:48,400 dwelling use in R7 district. I know it gets a little wordy, but I just want to make sure 1499 02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:56,520 that we're trying to achieve the intended outcome. Okay. All right. I guess I have a 1500 02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:02,480 quick point of clarification commissioner. Sorry, apologies. A quick point of clarification 1501 02:24:02,480 --> 02:24:09,440 before I make the motion. What practical difference does adding the language about the R7 zoning 1502 02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:14,720 district make to the overall amendment? I'm, I guess I'm missing the confusion on Eric's 1503 02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:18,840 part. I think it, I think it makes it, cause if it says adjacent to a residential zoning 1504 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:25,560 district and R7 being a residential zoning district and because R7 can allow for multifamily, 1505 02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:29,160 then that might, then that's what Tina is saying that essentially if we have it in there 1506 02:24:29,160 --> 02:24:33,520 and it just says residential zoning district, then we would be requiring new multifamily 1507 02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:38,560 to obtain an SUP when they're a budding or adjacent to an already existing multifamily 1508 02:24:38,560 --> 02:24:42,960 that's existed in R7 district. So I don't know if that helps clarify. No, I get, I get 1509 02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:48,880 that part. I guess my question is more about the language Ron had before he added the R7 1510 02:24:48,880 --> 02:24:53,860 zoning district when it just said excluding multifamily dwelling use. I think it's, I 1511 02:24:53,860 --> 02:24:57,000 think it's only just, I think it's just, I think it's just overkill of clarification 1512 02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:02,120 so to speak since R6 and lower doesn't allow for any multifamily with an SUP. Okay. I, 1513 02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:05,640 I see your point and I agree with you that I think that it might be just overkill, but 1514 02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:09,160 I think it might just be more of a better clarification to say R7 zoning district by 1515 02:25:09,160 --> 02:25:13,400 putting it into there. But yeah, I don't know if Tina, if you had anything else into there 1516 02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:22,080 that, okay. You've all explained it. Okay. All right. Well with that, yeah, I've served 1517 02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:28,040 on the DCRC when this was proposed. Staff did a good job of providing a real tangible 1518 02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:32,920 need for these changes and I appreciate that. With that, I happily move to approve the amendments 1519 02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:38,880 as presented with the new changes. All right. Commissioner McDade. I second. Okay. Well, 1520 02:25:38,880 --> 02:25:45,240 first and a second. Any other discussion? Sometimes democracy at works feels like mommy 1521 02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:50,160 and daddy fighting at the dais, but it's okay. We'll be okay with that. See no other discussion. 1522 02:25:50,160 --> 02:26:00,800 We will take a vote on the board. Okay. That motion passes six zero. All right. Ron, last 1523 02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:09,040 one. 4E DCA 22-0006. You to present and I'll open the public hearing. Great. Thank you, 1524 02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:13,680 chair, members of the commission. This is another city initiated code amendment related 1525 02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:18,960 to plan developments. The reason for this code amendment is really to provide a more 1526 02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:26,600 comprehensive procedure for rezoning to a plan development. One of those changes is 1527 02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:33,740 to also add a new type of PD, a plan development, an overlay plan development. And I'll go into 1528 02:26:33,740 --> 02:26:40,040 that in my slides preceding this to provide a little bit more description of the difference 1529 02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:47,660 between what an overlay PD is as well as what a standard PD is. The DCRC did meet on this 1530 02:26:47,660 --> 02:26:52,840 particular item and discussed it on July 8th. And per the recommendation, we are bringing 1531 02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:57,920 it forward to the planning zoning commission and ultimately to city council for consideration. 1532 02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:04,120 To summarize the code amendment code amendments, that is again, we're outlining and proposing 1533 02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:10,860 the new type of PD and that is an overlay. So we will now approve, have two types of 1534 02:27:10,860 --> 02:27:17,400 plan development, an overlay PD, a plan development, as well as a standard plan development. We're 1535 02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:24,960 also looking at clarifying the submittal documents, just again, to help more further require what 1536 02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:28,960 we need in order to review plan developments. We're making sure that those documents are 1537 02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:35,360 provided. Clarifying when concurrent reviews are allowed. There are certain times when 1538 02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:39,000 they are allowed and certain times when they are not. So that is further clarified in this 1539 02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:46,000 proposed code amendment. Adding more information related to PD amendments. There is, as you 1540 02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:53,080 all know, past PDs prior to 2019, there were some PDs that were created as part of the 1541 02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:59,200 2019 development code and as we know, as PDs start to become used more often, there will 1542 02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:05,480 be needs for amendments. So adding more information is going to be helpful in those efforts. We're 1543 02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:11,560 also proposing to delete, sorry, to delete the notification requirements for minor amendments. 1544 02:28:11,560 --> 02:28:18,180 The current requirement is that we, the city, notify adjacent property owners for minor 1545 02:28:18,180 --> 02:28:24,120 amendments to PDs. We feel that those are unnecessary and that those minor amendments 1546 02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:29,520 are typically minor in nature, of course, and the ones that are more substantial, such 1547 02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:34,880 as the major amendments, do still require those notifications and do still require public 1548 02:28:34,880 --> 02:28:41,320 hearings for those considerations. Lastly, we are proposing to add more clarification 1549 02:28:41,320 --> 02:28:46,560 as it relates to the approval criteria for rezoning to plan development. Again, to provide 1550 02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:53,760 further information to be able for staff, the P&Z, and city council to review as planning 1551 02:28:53,760 --> 02:29:00,960 developments are proposed. So we won't spend, I won't go through all of the code amendments 1552 02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:07,280 that's on, that was submitted to the planning zoning commission. Those are included in your 1553 02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:14,840 backup as exhibit two. I really just wanted to focus on the overlay PD addition, and as 1554 02:29:14,840 --> 02:29:22,560 you see on this slide, the description of an overlay plan development is presented, 1555 02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:28,000 and I will read it for the viewing public. I also want to make mention that the changes, 1556 02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:35,640 there are changes to this description different from the backup that was sent to you on Friday. 1557 02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:42,600 Yes, we looked at this after the backup had been sent out. We wanted to add a little bit 1558 02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:49,000 more clarification to the description, and so the changes that you see here is what staff 1559 02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:56,400 is proposing. So an overlay plan development is a PD intended to address concerns of neighboring 1560 02:29:56,400 --> 02:30:02,920 property owners to ensure the proposed rezoning and subsequent development of are compatible 1561 02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:10,000 with surrounding neighborhoods or less intensive uses. An overlay PD may be used to restrict 1562 02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:16,960 or expand the uses permitted within a base zoning district, or to impose additional use 1563 02:30:16,960 --> 02:30:23,480 specific standards within sub-chapter five upon a proposed use, or to modify setbacks, 1564 02:30:23,480 --> 02:30:29,040 landscaping, screening, or buffering requirements to allow the borders joining residential uses 1565 02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:38,680 or less intensive land uses than what is proposed within the overlay PD. I also want to make 1566 02:30:38,680 --> 02:30:47,440 clarification that the last sentence on this description should not be included. I failed 1567 02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:53,000 to remove that. That is not our intent. We want to remove that as part of our code amendment, 1568 02:30:53,000 --> 02:31:05,880 so let me go ahead and make that quick correction. Further, the overlay plan development is in 1569 02:31:05,880 --> 02:31:11,720 the course of reviewing any requested zoning map change to a base zoning under the section 1570 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:18,480 272. The director of planning, as well as the planning zoning commission or city council, 1571 02:31:18,480 --> 02:31:23,680 they find that there is a need to impose conditions upon the request that rezoning to address 1572 02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:30,760 compatible concerns. This overlay PD would be one of those options to utilize if that 1573 02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:38,720 is the direction of the planning zoning commission, the director, and the city council. So examples 1574 02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:46,360 of an overlay PD, as you probably have already or know of, is the Baker track. Our end district 1575 02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:51,320 that one is located on the northwest part of the city. As you know, there was a rezoning 1576 02:31:51,320 --> 02:32:00,760 to go from RR to LI, and as part of that rezoning, there was some conditions added to that, primarily 1577 02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:07,160 adding landscaping and some trees and some screening. So that zoning change request would, 1578 02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:13,760 if they were to be presented today or if this was approved, they would come in as an overlay 1579 02:32:13,760 --> 02:32:18,640 plan development. Another one is the Windsor 935 medical office. This one is a little bit 1580 02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:26,760 further ago, and where there were some uses that were identified as only allowed, and 1581 02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:33,360 so limiting just certain uses, that is another way an overlay plan development could be used 1582 02:32:33,360 --> 02:32:42,600 in the future, again, if the code amendment was approved. Standard PD is defined or described 1583 02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:48,080 as intended to be used to achieve greater flexibility than is allowed by strict application 1584 02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:55,180 of the DDC. So standard PD may be used to permit new or unique land use or combinations 1585 02:32:55,180 --> 02:33:01,760 of uses to propose, or to propose innovative or creative development standards. A standard 1586 02:33:01,760 --> 02:33:08,360 PD shall be built off of a basic zoning district within the DDC. And again, I apologize, the 1587 02:33:08,360 --> 02:33:13,600 last sentence should not be included with this plan development or with this proposed 1588 02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:22,480 code amendment. That is something that will not be included. Examples of a standard PD, 1589 02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:29,400 obviously Robeson Ranch is one of those plan developments. The Christopher Todd communities, 1590 02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:32,680 which is the horizontal multifamily, again, as I mentioned earlier in the previous code 1591 02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:38,380 amendment, that was used as a PD because we didn't have quite understanding of what that 1592 02:33:38,380 --> 02:33:43,280 type of residential development is, so it was processed as a PD. Love First Community 1593 02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:50,840 Village, that one is off of McKinney and just west of Mayhill, that is. That had a unique 1594 02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:57,320 development proposal where there were some additional housing types, and the way it was 1595 02:33:57,320 --> 02:34:02,600 laid out was a little different from your typical development, so that we felt was more 1596 02:34:02,600 --> 02:34:09,360 of a specialized PD or a unique type of development, so it fit within the definition or description 1597 02:34:09,360 --> 02:34:15,880 of a standard PD. So those are examples of what we would refer to as standard PDs. 1598 02:34:15,880 --> 02:34:22,880 I want to make also just a quick presentation on what we would require between the two. 1599 02:34:22,880 --> 02:34:27,960 Overlay PDs, really what we're looking for is just a list of conditions or restrictions 1600 02:34:27,960 --> 02:34:34,000 that are proposed, again, hopefully to ensure that there is compatibility between the proposed 1601 02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:38,000 development and any other neighboring property, so that would be something that the staff 1602 02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:45,600 will be looking for as part of their submittal documents. Standard PDs are a little bit more 1603 02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:51,200 involved in that we require a little bit more information and require the following. One 1604 02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:57,160 is the PD regulation document, which will consist of the following. Also a PD development 1605 02:34:57,160 --> 02:35:01,960 plan, which is really their site plan for that particular development, and if they're 1606 02:35:01,960 --> 02:35:06,360 proposing any phasing, they will also provide a phasing plan as part of their submittal. 1607 02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:12,240 So again, as you can see, I just want to illustrate, an overlay PD does not require as much as 1608 02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:18,940 does a standard PD, where they will provide a lot more information as part of their submittal. 1609 02:35:18,940 --> 02:35:24,680 With that, staff is recommending approval as the proposed code amendments are consistent 1610 02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:33,200 or are in line with the section of the DDC, Section 274D as it relates to code amendment 1611 02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:36,880 approval criteria. With that, I'll stand for any questions. 1612 02:35:36,880 --> 02:35:43,320 Okay. Thank you, Ron. I don't see any questions this time. This is a public hearing. Any of 1613 02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:51,320 those that wish to speak may do so. You can fill out a blue card after the fact. Okay. 1614 02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:55,820 Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing. I'll move to the dais for a motion or discussion. 1615 02:35:55,820 --> 02:36:01,720 Commissioner Cole. Make a motion to approve. Okay. Commissioner 1616 02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:10,000 Cole, a motion to approve with the additions and changes that were created and presented. 1617 02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:17,000 Yes, with the conditions presented. Okay. Thank you very much. Commissioner Villarreal. 1618 02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:27,080 Okay. Got a first and a second in the discussion. Okay. Seeing none, I'll ask for a vote on the 1619 02:36:27,080 --> 02:36:35,960 board. And that passes 6-0. Okay. I'll take us to our final item tonight. The item 5A, 1620 02:36:35,960 --> 02:36:41,360 our Planning and Zoning Commission Project Matrix. I'll turn the dais over to Tina. 1621 02:36:41,360 --> 02:36:46,620 Thank you, Chairman. We have not had a City Council meeting since the Planning and Zoning 1622 02:36:46,620 --> 02:36:52,960 Commission last met, so no cases to report or provide any update on that. But wanted 1623 02:36:52,960 --> 02:36:57,440 to get an item on your calendar just because I know some of you are working professionals 1624 02:36:57,440 --> 02:37:04,160 and want you to be able to plan accordingly. On October 12th, we are anticipating that 1625 02:37:04,160 --> 02:37:08,800 the Planning and Zoning Commission will probably need to convene a meeting at approximately 1626 02:37:08,800 --> 02:37:14,400 3.30 or 4 o'clock that afternoon. We'll obviously firm up that time once we have the agenda 1627 02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:18,760 more solidified, but just wanted to, you know, maybe have you put that on your calendars 1628 02:37:18,760 --> 02:37:23,640 for 3.30, and we might pleasantly surprise you with a later start time. But the reason 1629 02:37:23,640 --> 02:37:28,960 for this, just so you know, is our capital projects engineering team as well as our transportation 1630 02:37:28,960 --> 02:37:33,840 planning team is working on an update to our roadway impact fee ordinance. The Planning 1631 02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:41,240 and Zoning Commission serves as the CIAC, and I would be lying if I told you what all 1632 02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:45,880 those letters stood for. I just know that's the acronym assigned to the alternate committee 1633 02:37:45,880 --> 02:37:51,440 that you would convene into to consider any changes to the roadway impact fee ordinance. 1634 02:37:51,440 --> 02:37:57,480 So what we would do is in all likelihood convene that meeting first, take care of that business, 1635 02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:01,640 and then it will have a separate agenda posted, and then we'll have your normal Planning and 1636 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:07,800 Zoning Commission agenda packet that evening as well. But again, more importantly, just 1637 02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:11,680 want to get that on your calendars so that you can plan accordingly at work, so thank 1638 02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:12,680 you. 1639 02:38:12,680 --> 02:38:16,240 Okay. Commissioner Villarreal. 1640 02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:22,600 So I brought it up briefly at the DCRC meeting about perhaps putting forth a potential amendment 1641 02:38:22,600 --> 02:38:26,760 or at least a discussion about a potential amendment, and it was said that this would 1642 02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:33,720 be the best venue to initiate that discussion, right? I know we've had a couple conversations 1643 02:38:33,720 --> 02:38:39,440 over the last few P&Z meetings about parking minimums, and I know we just had a DCRC, or 1644 02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:46,760 sorry, a Development Code amendment regarding that, but I know there's a lot of discussion 1645 02:38:46,760 --> 02:38:56,560 and approval in the realm of removing parking minimums entirely, and I would like to kickstart 1646 02:38:56,560 --> 02:39:05,160 that discussion down the line and put that on staff's radar for perhaps a future amendment 1647 02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:10,000 going to DCRC, not immediately, but sometime in the long-term future. 1648 02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:11,000 Okay. 1649 02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:12,000 That's it. 1650 02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:13,000 Got that in? 1651 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:14,000 Awesome. 1652 02:39:14,000 --> 02:39:16,120 Okay. Commissioner Cole. 1653 02:39:16,120 --> 02:39:28,680 I just wanted to concur with Commissioner Villarreal on that. I support him in that, just having 1654 02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:39,000 a conversation. I think we should have a conversation. I think there is a consensus on this commission 1655 02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:47,800 to have that conversation, but I think it needs to be targeted and narrow and not go 1656 02:39:47,800 --> 02:39:52,160 down a rabbit hole, but just handle the parking minimums. 1657 02:39:52,160 --> 02:39:59,320 Okay. I know we did just approve a code amendment. We did. It's got to go to council, and it 1658 02:39:59,320 --> 02:40:02,640 sounds like we haven't gone to council yet. Say it again? 1659 02:40:02,640 --> 02:40:04,640 Go to council. 1660 02:40:04,640 --> 02:40:09,240 Okay. Go to council. Really, the discussion on that would probably have to be much later 1661 02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:15,480 on, and I'd hate for us to go through and have a discussion about change to code that 1662 02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:20,760 we just approved. I think it's a good discussion to have, and I think that we'll direct city 1663 02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:26,880 staff to bring back why parking minimums even need to exist and what the importance of those 1664 02:40:26,880 --> 02:40:30,880 are, then see where we go from there. Commissioner Pruitt. 1665 02:40:30,880 --> 02:40:37,440 Yeah, I'll just third that, but also echo some comments of the vice chair. Any change 1666 02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:44,500 like that is something that needs community buy-in, needs a longer perspective to understand 1667 02:40:44,500 --> 02:40:52,720 what the trade-offs are, and so I think I would look forward to those discussions. 1668 02:40:52,720 --> 02:41:01,960 Okay. Anything else to add to the matrix this time? Okay. Seeing none, I'll adjourn our 1669 02:41:01,960 --> 02:41:05,080 meeting at 759. Thank you very much.