WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.440 All right everyone, welcome to the Sustainability Framework Advisory 00:00:10.440 --> 00:00:16.720 Committee. It is Friday, August 26th and it's 1 of 02 and we are in the City 00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:22.940 Council Work Session Room. We do have a quorum. Mr. Stevens may make it today but 00:00:22.940 --> 00:00:29.400 I'm looking to be maybe absent as well if you want to document that. And we do have a full agenda today 00:00:29.400 --> 00:00:34.200 so I just ask that maybe we take our questions down and then at the end of 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:39.680 the presentation we can go through and ask them and we can get started with our 00:00:39.680 --> 00:00:46.520 first item for individual consideration. Consider approval of the June 29, 2022 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:53.600 minutes. Anybody have any comments on this? Oh it's no good to approve. Okay. Second. 00:00:53.600 --> 00:01:02.280 All right. All in favor? Aye. All right. We'll move on to item B. Receive a report and hold a 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:06.080 discussion regarding the current tree code requirements and the development 00:01:06.080 --> 00:01:09.520 impacts to trees. 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:14.800 Can we have Colleen Fitzgerald? It's Patrick, sorry. I knew I was going to do that. 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:19.200 From Development Services to Landscape Planner. We're going to talk to us about tree code today. 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:24.120 Welcome. Come on in. And just a friendly reminder to everyone, we are using the 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.800 mics that are hanging from the ceiling, so speak loudly. 00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:37.960 Good afternoon everyone. Colleen Fitzpatrick, Landscape Planner with the 00:01:37.960 --> 00:01:42.360 Planning Department and Development Services. Today we will be going over the 00:01:42.360 --> 00:01:49.480 current tree code which is the 2019 EDC and go over tree preservation requirements. So 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.040 we had a request from the committee to go over the current tree code 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.320 requirements and I'm guessing part of that was probably fueled by the large 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:00.240 amount of construction going on throughout Denton. Pretty much anywhere you 00:02:00.240 --> 00:02:06.840 turn you can see dirt turning, things happening. So I just wanted to go over 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.920 the 2019 tree code today. Some of the projects that you're probably seeing 00:02:10.920 --> 00:02:16.720 constructed today are under older code, so the 2002 code, but all the ones that 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:20.680 are being reviewed today that will be built will be going into the 2019 code. 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:25.640 So today we will be going over what those tree code requirements are, how 00:02:25.640 --> 00:02:31.400 we're reviewing them, and how they're enforced. So what are those requirements? 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.400 We're going to start with preservation. We're going to break it up into two 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:40.440 spots. Preservation and then mitigation. The overall standard preservation 00:02:40.440 --> 00:02:45.240 requirement is a minimum of 30% preservation of the total DVH of 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.120 heritage and quality trees. On the next slide I'm going to go over definitions, 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:54.080 but there's several definitions that categorize trees different way. As far 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:58.460 as DVH, what that means is diameter at breast height. So you're measuring the 00:02:58.460 --> 00:03:02.680 diameter of the trunk of the tree at four and a half feet from the ground up. 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:08.440 So basically arms length and then you measure that diameter of the tree, not 00:03:08.440 --> 00:03:15.120 the circumference, but the diameter. So standard preservation is 30% of the 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.720 inches of quality heritage trees. It's not a tree-per-tree basis, it's a 00:03:19.720 --> 00:03:24.720 percentage of the total inches on the site. There is an option for a lower 00:03:24.720 --> 00:03:29.840 preservation amount that goes to 20%, but the mitigation rate will be higher if 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:36.260 you go below that 30% minimum. I wanted to address ESAs, environmentally 00:03:36.260 --> 00:03:41.360 sensitive areas. Tree code requirements and ESAs are separate requirements. They 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:46.840 do not double dip like they did previously in the 2002 code. So when 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:51.960 we're looking at tree preservation we do not count ESA tree canopy as part of 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:57.000 those calculations. So they have their separate requirements. ESAs are 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:01.620 undeveloped areas, they're to be preserved in perpetuity. Tree code are 00:04:01.620 --> 00:04:07.960 tree preservation requirements in the development impact area or DIA. So on the 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:14.920 table we have just a generic example. Anything that would be considered green, 00:04:14.920 --> 00:04:19.260 the trees in the green spot, you can see the removals of the X and the green, 00:04:19.260 --> 00:04:24.240 those would go towards tree code. The trees in blue would be a riparian buffer, 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.600 so those would be ESA category trees and those would go towards your ESA 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.320 preservation requirements. We're not going to go into ESAs, but this is just 00:04:32.320 --> 00:04:36.680 showing the relationship, how we're reviewing them with the new code. The red 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:42.240 area where it says encroachment into ESA includes EIA. If there's an alternative 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:49.700 ESA proposed to go into an ESA for drainage or into a riparian area, they 00:04:49.700 --> 00:04:54.080 have to file for an alternative ESA. Any area where they're developing to do 00:04:54.080 --> 00:04:58.920 those stormwater encroachments ends up in the DIA, so then that gets kicked to 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.520 tree preservation. So then we add those calculations of canopy into tree 00:05:03.520 --> 00:05:12.640 preservation and they get moved out of the ESA to preservation. So into those 00:05:12.640 --> 00:05:17.960 tree definitions, secondary trees are four different types of trees. So 00:05:17.960 --> 00:05:22.440 secondary are considered healthy ash, healthy boat arc, which is also known as 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:26.400 Osage orange. If you see those big brain-like apples throughout town, that's 00:05:26.400 --> 00:05:30.960 part of the Osage orange or boat arc tree, packberry trees, and codwood trees. 00:05:30.960 --> 00:05:37.000 And those are trees that are six inches wide in diameter and above. Those 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:42.720 species, six inches and above, are secondary trees. Quality trees are all 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:50.120 non-secondary trees that are between 16 inches and 18 inches. So one thing to 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:53.720 keep in mind is that all protected trees, when you get into these categories, 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:58.320 anything that's six inches wide and larger are going to be protected for 00:05:58.320 --> 00:06:03.840 the DDC. So secondary trees, you got your ash, boat arc, packberry, and codwood, six 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:11.440 inches and larger. Quality, non-secondary trees that are between six and 18 inches. 00:06:11.440 --> 00:06:17.480 Heritage trees are all quality trees that are 18 inches and larger, and all 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.560 post oaks are considered heritage trees even if they're below that 18 inch 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:26.040 requirement. So all post oaks, no matter how big they are, six inches and above, 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:32.040 will be heritage trees. Non-protected trees are dead or unhealthy trees, trees 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:35.240 that pose an imminent or immediate threat to persons or property, 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:41.360 crape myrtles, ornamental pears, mesquite, honey locust, and noxious and invasive 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:46.880 trees on the Texas Department of Agriculture. Landmark trees are a special 00:06:46.880 --> 00:06:50.680 category. We actually do not have many in the City of Denton because they have to 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.160 be registered. So we only actually have six trees that are marked as landmark, 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:02.480 and those are either with the Texas Big Tree Registry, the property owner has to 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:07.400 designate them or request to be designated to be on that registry, or 00:07:07.400 --> 00:07:13.760 there have been some private property of relationships with the City of Denton, 00:07:13.760 --> 00:07:19.200 where they've usually been a private owner that designates a tree, and then 00:07:19.200 --> 00:07:24.280 the city will accept that designation as landmark. The only one on 00:07:24.280 --> 00:07:29.760 public property that we have is at the new DPS site over on McKinney and Mayhill. 00:07:29.760 --> 00:07:34.080 There is a large landmark tree there. The others that we have a record of are on 00:07:34.080 --> 00:07:42.280 private property. So how do we review this? The City of Denton has created a 00:07:42.280 --> 00:07:47.720 resource to help make the tree preservation process easier for us to 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:53.160 review and the development community to submit their applications. 00:07:53.160 --> 00:08:00.000 What the Planning Department has done is they've created an inventory list, so an 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.520 Excel file, where you can see the different categories of information that 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:09.920 we need per DDC requirements, and then it out calculates in the table on the far, I 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.640 guess, right side for you looking at that. That's where all the information in the 00:08:14.640 --> 00:08:20.040 tree inventory data ends up in the tree mitigation worksheet. The trees that are 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.560 marked on the tree inventory data are the ones that are being preserved, and as 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:29.800 you can see in the box over there, 30% preservation has been achieved because 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:34.840 they're meeting the inches. It's not a tree-for-tree removal basis, it's per the 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:40.960 inches. So they're preserving, looks like they need to preserve 49 inches, but 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.840 they're actually preserving 69 inches, so they're above that 30% preservation 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:54.040 requirement, and they're only keeping five trees. As far as mitigation goes, so 00:08:54.040 --> 00:08:57.820 the mitigation table on the right is where we can see that. I'm going to go 00:08:57.820 --> 00:09:01.760 back and let you see what a 30% mitigation will look like if they 00:09:01.760 --> 00:09:07.160 follow that standard requirement. You can see on the very bottom, it says 00:09:07.160 --> 00:09:12.080 negative 74.5 inches. When we see that on a final plat, when we're looking at 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:16.480 landscape plantings and trying to figure out if they owe tree mitigation into the 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.880 tree bun, if that's negative, they're not going to owe a feed. There are standard 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:25.460 landscape requirements that will make them, or they have to follow certain 00:09:25.460 --> 00:09:30.600 landscape requirements that they're required to put trees on site, so this 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.720 doesn't mean they don't have a site with no trees. They still have to meet those 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.480 landscape requirements, but those requirements do not go towards 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:42.800 mitigation because they don't have to pay that. However, on this sheet, if we 00:09:42.800 --> 00:09:49.120 look at it, any tree that's removed has to be replaced. So, sorry I'm going to go 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:53.200 backtrack here. When we look at the 20% mitigation, I wanted to show you at the 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:58.760 bottom here, if they're at 20% so they go below 30, now they're in a total where 00:09:58.760 --> 00:10:02.800 they have to pay mitigation. So, we compare those landscape plans. If they 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:05.920 go below the 30, they're going to have to pay into the tree bun or plant more 00:10:05.920 --> 00:10:12.200 trees to make up for that. So, they're at positive 71.65. So, as far as 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:17.280 mitigation goes, that's kind of the difference between 30% and 20%. When 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:21.080 you remove a protected tree, you have to replace it. Where can you replace it? 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:26.320 Either on the property, and they have to be at least two inches in caliber inch, so 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.800 that's the measurement diameter, when they're planted and above. So, they can 00:10:31.800 --> 00:10:37.320 either be on the site paying to the tree fund or on a location mutually agreed 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:42.480 upon by the city and property owner. Sometimes developers don't necessarily 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:47.920 want to see their tree fund go into a place where they don't know where their 00:10:47.920 --> 00:10:52.000 money's going. They'll coordinate with Parks Department and see if they can put 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:57.320 those trees and see them actually get planted within their project timeline and 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:03.880 see that actually go to use. So, that's an example of if they choose not to go 00:11:03.880 --> 00:11:06.520 into the tree fund, they want to coordinate with the city to put the 00:11:06.520 --> 00:11:10.400 trees elsewhere, that's where the trees are going. They want to put that money 00:11:10.400 --> 00:11:17.160 towards immediate action in plantings. So, this is the overview. We kind of went 00:11:17.160 --> 00:11:22.080 over the charts. 30% preservation, there's a different replacement ratio 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:29.440 rate. 20% preservation, there's a higher mitigation rate. So, when we're looking 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:34.240 at these on review, STAB is going to look at it in a three-year period, and then on 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:40.400 the mitigation table, if they owe mitigation, you multiply the 71 inches at 00:11:40.400 --> 00:11:47.840 the bottom by $200, and that's how much they owe. Here are some examples of how 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:53.360 we're reviewing the 2019 DDC. On the early stages of development, we're 00:11:53.360 --> 00:12:00.160 looking at construction impacts in 7.7.4 D. There are distances that you need to 00:12:00.160 --> 00:12:04.400 be away from the drip line, construction activity to help preserve the life of a 00:12:04.400 --> 00:12:11.000 tree. You can see on this side, on the before picture, they had a smaller area, 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:14.400 the yellow area was the only area where they're preserving the heritage and 00:12:14.400 --> 00:12:18.400 quality trees. After discussing this with their engineers and landscape 00:12:18.400 --> 00:12:22.640 architects, we were able to encourage them to preserve more trees based on 00:12:22.640 --> 00:12:27.520 their construction implications. You can see on the after photo, they have 00:12:27.520 --> 00:12:33.400 extended that area in the center, and they've added an additional landscape 00:12:33.400 --> 00:12:38.280 area along the frontage there, so they've increased their preservation with the 00:12:38.280 --> 00:12:42.440 with the way that we've been reviewing this, and to increase preservation. So 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:48.120 this is just one example. Here's another one. The original submittal, the trees in 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:54.160 yellow on the before, were going to be impacted by either grading or the septic 00:12:54.160 --> 00:12:59.920 being put in on the other side of the grading area. So after conversations, we 00:12:59.920 --> 00:13:03.800 bring up the concerns. What you're showing in the plans is going to impact 00:13:03.800 --> 00:13:07.880 the critical root zone of these trees, and they're not actually going to receive 00:13:07.880 --> 00:13:12.760 preservation credit. So we were able, they didn't, their intent was not to 00:13:12.760 --> 00:13:16.720 remove any trees, so we brought up the concerns, and then they revised their 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:24.140 site layout to reduce the impact and reduce the loss of trees. Okay, so 00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:29.040 enforcement, how do we enforce this, or how do we enforce this. Mitification fees 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:33.120 are due at the time of the filing of the final flat. Staff will surveillance the 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:39.600 area from construction up to three years. If we do see a violation, we issue a 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.000 stop work order. We have building permit go out there, stop the work on the site, 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.680 tell them to put the fence back up, or they cannot work until they have fixed 00:13:46.680 --> 00:13:52.440 the situation. Ways that they can fix the situation is through additional 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:58.680 plantings in the available open space on the site, or they pay just a 00:13:58.680 --> 00:14:04.280 straight fee into the mitigation fund. It was requested that we add some of the 00:14:04.280 --> 00:14:09.240 tree fund data in the last five years, so you can see at least on the right side 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:15.200 there, those are some of the statistics that we've had, and we gathered the data 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.200 for at least this year. It's still definitely in progress, but you can see 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.600 that total there, and then we also have the tree fund balance, which is around 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:30.600 half a million dollars that's currently existing in that account. Here's some 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.500 examples of violations that we've seen on site, and we're trying to avoid in the 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:39.560 development review stage. So you can probably see what's going on here, and 00:14:39.560 --> 00:14:46.880 how it's not good. The tree is already seeing signs of decline. The imagery here, 00:14:46.880 --> 00:14:51.480 the construction crews have totally decimated half of the critical root zone. 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:56.920 We've already seen root damage, so we contacted the developer and let them 00:14:56.920 --> 00:15:01.640 know that this tree needs to have a mitigation fee paid, or they need to 00:15:01.640 --> 00:15:07.080 remedy the situation by planting trees on the site. So these are the type of 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:12.360 examples that go on as far as violation goes. Here's another one that's similar. 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:19.040 There's excavation, which is a violation in our DDC under section D. They have 00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:23.960 removed the tree fencing after we had inspected and approved the site to begin, 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:28.760 and they excavated under the critical root zone. We actually had a call from a 00:15:28.760 --> 00:15:32.320 resident that notified us of the situation, and we acted on it immediately. 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:37.680 We had building inspections go out and stop the situation, and then they paid 00:15:37.680 --> 00:15:43.920 it to the tree fund. You can see the same situation happening on the right side. 00:15:44.560 --> 00:15:50.000 Here's another one as far as compaction goes. This is the last slide, at least for 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:55.240 enforcement's go. Where we have compaction issues, first of all, there's no tree 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.760 fencing. There's supposed to be tree fencing around these. That's a violation. 00:15:58.760 --> 00:16:03.320 And then they're storing heavy equipment, which is a specific category under the 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:08.000 DDC that you were not supposed to do. And then on the far right side, you can see 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:14.720 the trees that are next to the home. We want to avoid long-term conflicts with 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:20.960 trees. This happened probably after the developer was long gone. There was 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:25.500 compaction during the construction of the retaining wall. You can see the 00:16:25.500 --> 00:16:30.200 canopy is going over that section, so the root zones were impacted, and we have 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.560 increased drainage, which may have also left the depth of the tree. But these are 00:16:34.560 --> 00:16:39.800 just examples of what we're trying to avoid and address as far as tree code 00:16:39.800 --> 00:16:50.320 and new construction. And with that, I'll take any questions. Anybody have questions? 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:59.080 I do. Go ahead, Ed. Thanks for the presentation. Do we have any idea how 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:06.200 much carbon is sequestered by the current canopy that we have? I do not have that 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:11.400 information. For a tree code review, we're specifically looking at DBH that is 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:17.800 preserved, so we do not have that data collected at the time of the development 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:23.880 review. Okay, what do you think? I don't know, maybe it's... I think it would be 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:33.040 interesting to know if we could get that information. And is the canopy increasing? 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:39.360 For development? I mean... Just deaden's tree canopy, or is this a question that's 00:17:39.360 --> 00:17:44.920 really not related to what you presented? I think it's a combination. Yeah, I don't 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.200 think it really relates, but with our landscape requirements being as strict 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:53.840 as they are, and we do encourage... well, we don't encourage... we make developers 00:17:53.840 --> 00:17:57.400 replace what they're planting, and they have to meet that mitigation ratio and 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:03.880 replacement. So the landscape plans definitely have lots of trees that are 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:11.720 replacing what is removed. Some instances, they're replacing what species that are 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.880 better than what is on the site. Some sites have disease or secondary trees 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.960 that aren't as valued, and they're putting in quality and heritage trees, or I 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:27.360 guess quality species in. So we are also making up for that, but the carbon 00:18:27.360 --> 00:18:31.440 sequestration, that's a really good question, that unfortunately we can't 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.720 enforce in development services to collect that data, but I think that's 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:38.480 really interesting to look into. Yeah, I think especially with the climate action 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:44.720 plan coming up. Are newly planted trees irrigated? Did they put irrigation 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:50.540 systems in? Yes. And how long do they usually stay irrigated? They should be in 00:18:50.540 --> 00:18:55.600 perpetuity unless they're planning to do zero escaping. I would work 00:18:55.600 --> 00:18:59.120 with them on a maintenance plan to make sure that those are established before 00:18:59.120 --> 00:19:04.520 they start pulling back on that water supply. And that leads me to my final 00:19:04.520 --> 00:19:09.760 question, which you just mentioned. Are we seeing more, or are we seeing any 00:19:09.760 --> 00:19:14.520 developers who are coming in and zero escaping? Yes, we've seen at least three 00:19:14.520 --> 00:19:18.160 requests. I think there's only one that I've seen move forward with 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.640 implementation. It's one of the data centers. They aren't zero escaping 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:27.560 everything, but they're doing permanent irrigation on their landscape beds and 00:19:27.560 --> 00:19:33.800 irrigating their trees. But turf, they're putting in native seed, and then they're 00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:38.720 going to temporarily irrigate that to establishment. And then after 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.920 that's established, there will be no turf irrigation at that point. Great, thanks 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:48.080 pretty much. So the initial site inventory, those are 00:19:48.080 --> 00:19:53.280 self-reported numbers, right? Whenever a developer's looking at a plat and it's 00:19:53.280 --> 00:19:58.880 reported to... They have to be verified or collected by the 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:05.520 DDC professional. So if I don't have a verification on their profession that's 00:20:05.520 --> 00:20:10.560 related to the DDC, I will kick the plans back and not accept them. So it either 00:20:10.560 --> 00:20:15.960 has to be a certified arborist, an urban forester, a landscape architect, or a land 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:20.400 surveyor with tree identification. And each of those positions, are they all 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.720 under say like a standardized certification? Because I know for some 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:28.760 you could be under ISA, but for an urban forester, I didn't know that that was a 00:20:28.760 --> 00:20:34.320 criteria we had. I don't see them submitted or reviewed by an urban 00:20:34.320 --> 00:20:38.800 forester. It's an option in the DDC, but if let's say there's a violation and 00:20:38.800 --> 00:20:44.200 they're contesting what I'm telling them is a violation, I say please hire an ISA 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:48.400 certified arborist to verify what you're telling me is correct. And if they 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.680 provide that, I'll look into it professionally and get their response. 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:59.520 But yes we have professionals, ISA, they have to verify it. It has to be on the 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:03.920 plan saying I'm responsible for identifying the accurate information on 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:08.560 this site. So if there's incongruencies with what you might inspect on site and 00:21:08.560 --> 00:21:12.080 what they've reported, are those rectified in the development process or is 00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:21.480 there like a keep that happens immediately? Yes, that's actually happened before. So if I see a site and I am concerned the 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.240 data is not accurate, I will ask them about that during the review process and 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:33.840 ask for clarification on the methods that were used to collect the data. 00:21:36.840 --> 00:21:41.960 So then during the development process you said is it standard for three times 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:46.880 for your office to inspect the site or is that the average that you shoot for? 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:52.400 Usually they're off-site inspections, so I look at aerial photography because 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:56.280 there's just so much development coming in. We have to be delicate with our 00:21:56.280 --> 00:22:02.040 time and where it's being used. Usually I get on site. Sometimes during the 00:22:02.040 --> 00:22:07.160 development review they'll invite you on site and ask you whatever questions 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.380 that they have, but typically inspections happen whenever things 00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:15.680 approved and we're doing tree fencing inspections, but what I think your 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:20.560 concern is coming from is is the data accurate and are we approving things 00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:30.800 that should be approved, right? So we have to trust the professionals that are 00:22:30.800 --> 00:22:35.080 submitting the plans. If they're not providing that professional certification 00:22:35.080 --> 00:22:39.760 then we can kick it back and not accept the plans, but we can't contest every 00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:45.160 single project because it's not possible and then you're also overriding their 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:51.160 professional certification. So you can you can't contest everything. You have to 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:57.000 trust the system and their professionalism with their license, but if 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:02.560 there's a concern that maybe there was some misinterpretation, you can question 00:23:02.560 --> 00:23:07.560 it and then you can try to clarify the issue. What would you see as a proper 00:23:07.560 --> 00:23:11.320 process given you're working with limited staff and limited time when a 00:23:11.320 --> 00:23:16.120 site violation does exist? Is it encouraged for residents to report or 00:23:16.120 --> 00:23:21.600 is it better for you to engage from the office in that process? Oh I love 00:23:21.600 --> 00:23:27.160 when citizens tell me what's going on. It's helpful. It's our community. I 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:32.560 appreciate their involvement. Like the one example that you saw, they understood 00:23:32.560 --> 00:23:37.680 that something strange was happening and they notified staff and that caused a 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.760 chain of reaction for us to take action. Because we can't be everywhere at once. 00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:46.960 If there's something happening we definitely welcome. Sorry rolling 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:52.680 through. Post-project violations like the last example that you showed where you 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.800 often expect up to three years outright or at least they're supposed to ensure 00:23:56.800 --> 00:24:00.240 that their mitigation survives up till then. When you have an issue like the 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.180 image on the right where it's years after potentially development, how are 00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:09.380 those situations rectified where it was, I'm going to use the word, the fault of the 00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:14.560 developer that a mitigate or a preserve tree ended up dying. How is that 00:24:14.560 --> 00:24:18.280 situation resolved in the long run so far as it relates to mitigation of the tree? 00:24:18.280 --> 00:24:22.520 Yes that's a good question. We look at the code, which code was it adopted under 00:24:22.520 --> 00:24:28.440 and what we can enforce. Because it is 2019 we might not have that enforcement 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:33.640 with the older code. So we look at all aspects of the project, what was reviewed, 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:39.080 what code it falls under. So if this had happened, let's say under the 2019 code, 00:24:39.080 --> 00:24:46.240 we would reach out to the property owner and try to rectify the situation. Final question. 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:51.880 When it's a city project and we're working on city lands or city easement 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:59.560 and the city contractor has a violation, we're already paying them. Do they pay us 00:24:59.560 --> 00:25:04.580 back in the tree fund for say mortality that they didn't anticipate or an issue 00:25:04.580 --> 00:25:09.320 like the image on the left where the contractor may have not fully understood 00:25:09.320 --> 00:25:13.600 what our criteria was for preservation. How are those issues when it's our own 00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:18.920 people in a sense? The code still applies to them. We do have provisions in the code 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:24.380 that if it's for public improvements or enhancements of roadway infrastructure 00:25:24.380 --> 00:25:29.960 they can be exempt from the tree code for that sort of use. So it just depends 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.960 on the situation. If it's going in for sewer line that has to happen, it's sort of 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:38.240 multiple communities. There's not much we can do about it. They're protected in our 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:43.600 code. But if there are solutions where we can avoid the removal of the tree, we're 00:25:43.600 --> 00:25:53.240 going to try to pursue that. Thank you so much. One question. What the heck happened in 2020 that there was almost a million others? 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:58.400 I wish I could tell you that but I wasn't here when that happened. Nobody talks 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:04.960 about that. That's such an outlier relative to everything else. Yes I cannot 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:13.520 speak to that. I started in October of last year, so 2021. I'm seeing some head 00:26:13.520 --> 00:26:19.200 shakes. I'm not sure. A bunch of violations. I mean is that what that's telling us? 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:23.240 I think it might be telling us there was more development because as more of 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.320 these projects get approved and start going, it's a combination. It's not 00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:31.120 always violations. It's the final flat and the projects coming through. So some 00:26:31.120 --> 00:26:37.440 of these projects, I've seen people $1,000. I've seen people owe $200,000. 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.920 So it just depends on the type of projects that are moving forward and 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.560 going through construction at that time. That may have been a year where there 00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:50.960 was way more construction than we saw in the previous years. It may also have been old 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:57.360 growth forest just cut like you know like a lot of bigger trees. 00:26:57.360 --> 00:27:08.800 Sorry. I just have just one too. Why why the 30% number? I guess I'm asking 00:27:08.800 --> 00:27:14.080 because this is so the city's developing rapidly. You can imagine someday where 00:27:14.080 --> 00:27:19.720 we're built out as it were. Does the city have a goal to have a 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:25.720 certain, like if you can count all the DBH and all the trees now, do we want to 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:30.280 stay at that same number? Do we want to have an acceptable percentage less than 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:35.040 that in the future? Do we want to grow that? Like what is the goal and is the 30% 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:40.400 number designed to get us there? Or is that just what's legally we can get away 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:46.440 with? I believe legally that could be something you guys appear to. It could be 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:55.360 legally or it's what council put before us in the code. Haley can speak to that. 00:27:55.360 --> 00:28:01.120 Yeah when we were updating the tree code, that's right on the microphone, when we 00:28:01.120 --> 00:28:06.200 went through the tree code update in 2019 we were looking at trying to balance all 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.040 the factors. So obviously we have our landscaping requirements that are higher 00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:12.320 than a lot of other cities. Our tree preservation was already significantly 00:28:12.320 --> 00:28:16.080 more than other cities so we didn't we couldn't make a drastic jump from where 00:28:16.080 --> 00:28:19.560 we were in our 02 code which averaged from like 10 to 20 percent depending on 00:28:19.560 --> 00:28:23.840 the site. But we did want to increase that amount that was council's desire. So 00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:28.280 we looked at what the recommended amount of tree coverage for our area is which 00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:32.080 based on our ecosystem was anywhere from 20 to 40 percent depending on what part 00:28:32.080 --> 00:28:35.840 of the city you were in and what ecoregion that was within. So the 30% 00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:39.440 was a good balance where we felt like we were we were marginally increasing our 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:44.240 requirements that are to be quite honest already much higher than other cities in 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.680 the area and tend to get questioned and challenged a lot more because of that. So 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.560 we wanted to to get to a number that was an increase but not a drastic increase. 00:28:52.560 --> 00:28:55.680 So 30% was that balance that council ended on at that time. 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.680 Interesting. Thank you. 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:03.000 Yeah I was gonna it used to be 20% it could go down to 10% and so when we 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:08.640 approved the new code we got it to 30% down to 20%. So it's a little bit of 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.640 increase but I believe the overall canopy goal for the city is 30%. So I 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.120 don't know with all the development if we're further away from that goal I 00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:25.720 think we were like 20% 40% so I don't know where we are on that goal. 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.320 And I would have to look to Heywood and Michael for that answer but I know just 00:29:30.320 --> 00:29:33.440 based on as Colleen spoke to our landscape requirements combined with our 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.600 tree code canopies increasing on all of these properties that we're seeing 00:29:36.600 --> 00:29:39.520 developing. So the trees might be small today but over time we will definitely 00:29:39.520 --> 00:29:44.620 get to a much higher tree canopy overall for the city. And if those die they need to be 00:29:44.620 --> 00:29:50.320 replaced. So if they just go through and kill a bunch of them they have to be to 00:29:50.320 --> 00:29:55.600 be in compliance with code. You have a follow up? No I'm glad you said that because I there 00:29:55.600 --> 00:29:59.800 was a presentation a while back by our urban forester that showed actually the 00:29:59.800 --> 00:30:05.520 city is a tree maker like like the forest has grown as we've developed it 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:09.120 seems like and it seems like that's what you're saying is going to happen. Yes 00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:13.960 if you think of an industrial site on the west side of town when they come in 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:16.760 there may be just a handful of mosquitoes or something on the property 00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:20.800 because it's mostly been cattle land. We're requiring them to plant back at 00:30:20.800 --> 00:30:24.680 least enough trees to someday have at least 20% tree canopy coverage on that 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.840 side at a minimum just based on their zoning district. So over time we'll see 00:30:28.840 --> 00:30:34.600 that increase but Heywood probably has that. So we do have an overall goal of 40% 00:30:34.600 --> 00:30:40.960 tree canopy and we did some some numbers looking at coal hunter development 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.920 based on you know the tree canopy that's there now versus once the site is built 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:50.560 out and the data showed out remember the numbers specifically that there would be 00:30:50.560 --> 00:30:55.840 an increase but it's also site dependent. Some sites you may go in and 00:30:55.840 --> 00:31:00.800 have 100% or near 100% tree canopy cover where you're never going to get 100% if 00:31:00.800 --> 00:31:04.200 you build something there because you at least have that building footprint and 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:10.560 the area that you're developing. The other thing to keep in mind is the coal 00:31:10.560 --> 00:31:16.160 preserves based on diameter of the wrench which there isn't a direct link or 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:23.080 correspondence to canopy size. It's not a linear progression. In some cases once 00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:27.160 the tree gets a certain size the canopy will actually start to shrink a little as 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:35.080 the tree gets you know towards the downside of this life cycle. So 00:31:35.080 --> 00:31:40.400 hope that helps to answer and clarify a little bit. While you're here I have a 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.040 question for you. So on the landmark trees we heard that there's not a lot 00:31:44.040 --> 00:31:49.400 but I know that as development is increasing there's a lot more old growth 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:54.920 forests that are going to be developed. Have you or anybody do they recommend to 00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.240 the developers like this should be a landmark tree and like give them 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:05.920 information on the process or is that like out of our? So for example the DPS 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.480 site calling reference I was the one that reviewed those plans when it came 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.280 in and they were struggling to meet tree code so we sat down and reviewed the 00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:15.000 plans in detail with them and saw I can't remember the inches of the tree it's like 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:22.440 27 or it was a significantly size poster so I was like hey looking at the state 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.480 database you probably qualify for landmark tree if you do this you're 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.400 going to get a little more credit and it can help offset because they were having 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:32.800 to plant a forest of trees back on site to meet our landscape requirements. So we 00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:35.840 have those negotiations with them where possible when we see those trees that it 00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:38.800 looks like could be a good candidate for that but ultimately it is the property 00:32:38.800 --> 00:32:42.400 owner who has to agree to designate and in that case they were amenable to doing 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:50.600 that. Okay well that's good to know. And my last question is as far as dead trees is 00:32:50.600 --> 00:32:59.200 that up to the citizens or is there a a way for the city to go out and like 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:03.280 within that three years if there's a lot of trees that are dead on a new 00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:08.560 development how is that enforced and who finds those I mean I know that with the 00:33:08.560 --> 00:33:13.760 drought I've seen lots of little trees that are dead so like how does that 00:33:13.760 --> 00:33:20.360 process work? Are these new plantings or preserved plantings? New plantings. Okay 00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:26.280 I think we could have code enforcement go out and I would wait till it's a good 00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:29.440 time of year to plant at least but you can give them the notification and we 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.560 would work with them on replacing that but I think that's something we can get 00:33:33.560 --> 00:33:40.520 building inspections on our code enforcement into. So that's recorded? Yeah so I think there are 00:33:40.520 --> 00:33:44.480 ways that we can enforce that to make sure that's get replaced. All right awesome 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:51.040 thank you. Anybody else have any questions? I appreciate the presentation. Thank you 00:33:51.040 --> 00:33:53.840 all for coming today. 00:33:53.840 --> 00:34:12.800 We will move on to our next item. Item C. Receive a report, hold a discussion and 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:17.020 give staff feedback on sustainability framework metrics and implementation 00:34:17.020 --> 00:34:19.920 tracking dashboards. 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:27.640 Good afternoon committee members. I'm James Subliss the conservation programs 00:34:27.640 --> 00:34:33.080 coordinator. So today we wanted to review with you an internal dashboard that we 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:38.320 have been using to make sure that the sustainability framework is on track and 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.880 that we are working in progress all of those goals strategies and metrics that 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:48.560 are included. So today we'll go through a quick background of the sustainability 00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:53.200 framework and also how the dashboard functions. Some of the details related to 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:57.160 that. We'll do a quick demonstration with the dashboard and then we will take some 00:34:57.160 --> 00:35:04.080 next steps some feedback and we will go through that. So again the purpose of the 00:35:04.080 --> 00:35:07.360 framework so this is a guiding document that allows the city to be a sustainable 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.960 community that improves the environment and utilizes resources in ways that are 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.080 fiscally and socially responsible and its implementation is also the charge of 00:35:15.080 --> 00:35:21.000 this committee. So kind of an important document there. It's got eight key focus 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.960 areas, 66 goals and strategies which are the general principles and methods that 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.800 showcase progress for the framework itself and then we have 36 metrics and 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.440 those metrics help to track whether those goals and strategies are making 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.240 good progress. Again as the sustainability framework advisory 00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:45.480 committee progress and metrics tracking will ensure that we are staying on the 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.200 path with the implementation of the framework. Areas of improvement can be 00:35:49.200 --> 00:35:53.800 easily identified internally as we review this and areas of success can be 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.160 highlighted and replicated. So some things to note during the dashboard 00:35:59.160 --> 00:36:02.040 demonstration for the goals and strategies you'll see four different 00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:08.920 categories those are ongoing, incomplete, in progress and complete and so ongoing 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.760 that just means that the language surrounding that goal or strategy 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:16.860 implies that there's not necessarily a completion something like continue to 00:36:16.860 --> 00:36:20.760 improve the efficiency of city buildings or energy efficiency so that's something 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.560 that's always going to be an ongoing goal as a part of that framework. The 00:36:24.560 --> 00:36:28.840 ones that are a little bit more binary have that set completion threshold 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:33.160 associated with them will be designated as either incomplete or complete if 00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:37.480 steps have been taken on those items they will be noted as in progress but 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:41.800 maybe they haven't reached quite the goal that was set out. With the metrics 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:47.880 the metrics are a year-over-year metric so when we look at 2019 it is in 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.480 relationship to the year before so those metrics are either designated as 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:58.280 improved or declined if it is the same and there's no change and then it's 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.520 possible that with some of the more recent years the data is not available 00:37:01.520 --> 00:37:07.160 and so that designation is in there as well. With that I will pull up the 00:37:07.160 --> 00:37:14.600 dashboard real quick. Again this is just for our internal review so far so you 00:37:14.600 --> 00:37:18.160 can see all of the different key focus areas there on the left-hand side one 00:37:18.160 --> 00:37:23.360 through eight and all of the different years so we'll start here with some of 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.960 the goals and strategies. As you can see a good portion of the goals and 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:36.260 strategies are ongoing and so the 25% of goals and strategies here you can see 00:37:36.260 --> 00:37:41.440 are really going to be the ones that change over time so as we move from 2019 00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.680 to 2020 you can see some of those movements in progress and as we go here 00:37:45.680 --> 00:37:49.600 in 2021 we're moving more of those items into the complete in progress 00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:56.200 categories. We can also if we have questions about where we're at on 00:37:56.200 --> 00:38:02.780 certain items we can go ahead and sort by whatever key focus area that is and 00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:07.240 we can get a quick glimpse so if we are talking to other departments or 00:38:07.240 --> 00:38:12.920 anything like that we can get a quick sense of where everything is at. Very 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:17.140 similar here with the metrics so just to give you kind of an example here so 00:38:17.140 --> 00:38:22.840 we'll go into the energy and energy conservation and efficiency. So for 2020 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.840 we saw year-over-year improvement in every single one of those metrics which 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:32.480 was great to see and so once again that's a comparison to 2019. As we move 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.680 into 2020 we had a slight decline or 2021 we had a slight decline in the 00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:40.120 number of participants in the rebate program and we had a slight decline in 00:38:40.120 --> 00:38:46.040 our internal energy consumption numbers. So once again just a really good way to 00:38:46.040 --> 00:38:50.960 kind of if we have an internal question about something go and give a check on 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.480 that here in our dashboard. 00:38:56.040 --> 00:39:10.040 So for our next steps we want to continue to update the dashboard in 00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:13.960 terms of our 2022 numbers which will be going in here in the fall and as we 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:18.680 move through January and complete the 2022 calendar year. We're also going to 00:39:18.680 --> 00:39:22.120 consider options to utilize this dashboard as a virtual counterpart to 00:39:22.120 --> 00:39:25.400 the written document itself. It sort of functions that way for us internally. 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:29.080 One thing that we do want to make sure that we're doing for some of those 00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:33.400 ongoing goals and strategies is that each year we're keeping track of what 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.440 items what achievements have gone into those ongoing activities and basically 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.560 what action items are we taking to improve those and typically they will 00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:47.160 be reflected in the metrics so we can attribute some of those action items as 00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:52.440 we see those change as well. So pretty quick overview but with that I will take 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:59.560 any questions that you might have. So I'm just curious if we there would be any 00:39:59.560 --> 00:40:04.120 value in adding absolute numbers where it's possible say like change in 00:40:04.120 --> 00:40:09.200 renewable energy for D&E would be like an absolute value once right knowing not just a 00:40:09.200 --> 00:40:14.280 percentage of change but what value we started and where we went to. Sure and we 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.240 do have that information I think this is a quick look of did it increase or did 00:40:18.240 --> 00:40:21.880 it decline so that we can sort in that way so we can identify okay this year 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:26.600 maybe this is what our priorities are at a glance. So all of the absolute 00:40:26.600 --> 00:40:29.720 values are in there and that's something that if we build it out a little bit 00:40:29.720 --> 00:40:33.240 more we could include as a part of that rather than just the relative change in 00:40:33.240 --> 00:40:38.560 the percentage. Just one other one it seems like we're making some good 00:40:38.560 --> 00:40:43.440 progress in a lot of these key areas I'm just curious I know obviously this would 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.840 be for internal use but if we're proud of our progress is there some way to 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.200 highlight what we do have ongoing where we have progressed in some areas and in 00:40:51.200 --> 00:40:55.840 other words publicizing some of the elements of this that would be a tool 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.640 online perhaps for residents to look at. Yeah absolutely so I think this one 00:40:59.640 --> 00:41:02.920 functions really well for our internal uses I think that we'll probably design 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.560 something very similar or even if it's just a posting you know what I mean of 00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:10.440 the 2022 2022 highlights for example we could do something like an annual report 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.560 that would be a little bit more publicly digestible and I think that's really the 00:41:13.560 --> 00:41:20.840 next step with us. Thank you. Anybody else? Adam? Just a quick question that was one of my questions so 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:26.600 thank you. The data you're capturing is going to be really broad because it 00:41:26.600 --> 00:41:30.240 applies to a whole bunch of things the cities have going on so for example the 00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:35.320 40% tree canopy cover we just talked about is something that would be tracked 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:39.400 here. Yes correct. I just want to get a sense of the scope of this. Yeah and for the 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.800 metrics it really helps us kind of put everything under one roof so that we you 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.760 know every year we're making sure that we're going out to those departments 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.520 that may be the the holders of that data and we're centralizing you know what's 00:41:50.520 --> 00:41:55.760 important to the framework. Does council have access to this or 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.800 or people who advise council on decisions so that like does this feed 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:06.600 into informing decision-making? So right now this is our essentially our internal 00:42:06.600 --> 00:42:10.720 tracking of the framework and the results can be exported in any number of 00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:15.120 ways as we just reported to committee on the environment earlier this week and so 00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:18.320 they got a snapshot of some of the results of and I think that will be the 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:25.120 process that that continues in. So what you're saying is that this dashboard as 00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:31.120 it is with the information it now contains will not be accessible through 00:42:31.120 --> 00:42:37.320 the sustainability website? In its current format correct. Yeah what do you 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:45.000 envision how do you envision putting it on the website? I imagine that like I 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.920 said I think that an annual report is going to be in the works and a next step 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.360 that comes out of this especially now that it is easily housed. Is there a 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:58.600 reason for keeping it internal like this? I think it's purely a functionality item. 00:42:58.600 --> 00:43:03.120 What are you meaning what? So just if there's a bit of a learning curve with 00:43:03.120 --> 00:43:05.920 sorting through some of this and so we would want something that would be a 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.800 little bit more a little bit more friendly and public-facing. Okay then I 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:19.920 would really be happy if a public a dashboard for public consumption, current 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:25.640 not just a year end, but I think something that could be posted that the 00:43:25.640 --> 00:43:30.040 public could access so that and you could put in there check out these 00:43:30.040 --> 00:43:36.000 highlights here's what we're doing because it's a it's amazing it's an 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:41.400 amazing organizational tool and I think people need to know about it because if 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:48.400 they do they'll take advantage of it and know what you guys are all about. 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:54.240 I actually agree with that because a lot of people are seeing a lot of 00:43:54.240 --> 00:44:01.640 development change. A lot of development is clearing initially and the trees will come up and it's depressing. 00:44:01.640 --> 00:44:07.360 And so if you see things like this it tells us that we're doing something in 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:15.960 the city other than just stripping off the surface and putting out a track housing thing, it tells us we're doing something else. 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:25.440 So I think the more people can access this type of information for our city the better. 00:44:27.560 --> 00:44:33.440 I also had on my notes that I think this would be great information to share on 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.440 the sustainability web page and then hearing you talk about how it might not 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:46.080 be in our usual usable interface. I do think don't we have an open data page or 00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:50.480 we used to a long time ago where something like this might be implemented 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:58.160 a little bit easier in that. I know that several years ago we did and it was 00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:02.400 maintained and it was it was user friendly like we could go to it. It was 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.680 something separate from the city of Denton but it was an open data. 00:45:06.680 --> 00:45:14.680 There was a metrics database that was very simple with the arrows and the yellow and the red. 00:45:14.680 --> 00:45:19.200 I'd like to be able to build this in a way where we can share most of the data 00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:25.680 but maybe not have as many clicks to get to each of the important pieces right so 00:45:25.680 --> 00:45:32.640 well I I think it would be fantastic to see the goals that we're moving towards 00:45:32.640 --> 00:45:38.200 and how you know how we're progressing but I did have a question on say like 00:45:38.200 --> 00:45:43.920 here's an example the sustainability metrics greenhouse gas emissions for 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:49.040 municipal government operations. Our target is just to reduce greenhouse 00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:54.920 gas emissions. There's no like number target or you know so how how do we see 00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:01.280 or we just kind of like oh well they were reduced by like 0.5 percent yeah you 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.680 know what I mean like do we get to come through and kind of add to this a little 00:46:06.680 --> 00:46:11.320 bit more or? Well we've adopted the science-based target now which we didn't 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:17.240 have when we adopted the 2020 plan so we can put more targets on that. We have the 00:46:17.240 --> 00:46:26.040 community-wide reduction okay so we can tie back to those now so that okay so 00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:31.760 that is in your those community-based goals are in in your document they're 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:37.040 not in this hard paper copy but we do have a goal now like a number goal. Right 00:46:37.040 --> 00:46:42.000 yeah for for example for the greenhouse gas emissions and as things update we 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.320 can and really this I mean this is meant to pair with the document itself but we 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.520 can certainly make those changes as they become more more relevant like that. Okay 00:46:51.520 --> 00:46:54.720 I just want to make sure that that was overlapping you know that was 00:46:54.720 --> 00:47:01.600 coordinating and then I just want to say this is great it shows that this just 00:47:01.600 --> 00:47:06.920 isn't an empty document you know like which a lot of things are so this is 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:12.180 really fantastic thank you and then maybe we could do an insert or in the 00:47:12.180 --> 00:47:18.760 newsletter or something just to kind of overall highlight as you know while we're 00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:27.520 waiting for kind of just a snapshot of our annual update. Yeah it goes on this it gets me 00:47:27.520 --> 00:47:32.040 thinking do we know how people receive information about the cities to 00:47:32.040 --> 00:47:38.040 standardize? Where are they getting this information? Where do we get this information? 00:47:38.040 --> 00:47:44.160 You're on live TV. Yeah no I know that but it's like it's it's not in the DRC is it 00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:49.200 it's the city's web page is nice but it's hard to kind of navigate through 00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:56.360 that so you really got to look and I just I don't know maybe I'm just thinking 00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:01.200 out loud it's a little bit off topic but it's like I I want to know this stuff 00:48:01.200 --> 00:48:05.600 right and I'm on this committee and I'm seeing this here but I want to know this 00:48:05.600 --> 00:48:09.280 as a citizen how these things are going on how do we how do we get that message 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:15.160 out there? I think that's actually in another item coming up. Oh really? Okay good yes. 00:48:15.160 --> 00:48:24.680 Yeah yeah all right. Anybody have any questions about this one? Thank you JT. 00:48:24.680 --> 00:48:31.640 Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay we will move on to item D. Receive a report. Oh 00:48:31.640 --> 00:48:37.960 that's what we just did isn't it? No. 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:43.760 See okay so we see report hold the discussion and give staff feedback on 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:48.000 action items and implementation strategies using current and future 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:55.120 sustainability framework fund. We're going to jump up for this one, Catherine Barnett 00:48:55.120 --> 00:49:00.480 sustainability manager and then JT is going to help take notes as we work through this one. 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:09.080 Okay. I think everyone will help take notes as we work through this one. So just a little bit of background talk about the 00:49:09.080 --> 00:49:12.800 framework fund work plan and the progress then we'll go into some 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:18.080 brainstorming and suggestions and if we need to we can pull up some of our staff 00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:24.880 brainstorming to help us up with that discussion and feedback in next steps. So 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:29.200 just a little bit of background we know the framework was adopted in 2020 then 00:49:29.200 --> 00:49:35.040 we had this committee come on for their first meeting in May of 21. The work plan 00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:41.040 was approved March 22nd of 22. We've been working on that since it was adopted 00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:48.320 or approved by council and we have additional funding coming to 2022-2023 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:54.640 of the year that we need to talk about. So here are the items from the framework 00:49:54.640 --> 00:49:59.840 fund work plan that was approved by council. So the climate action plan is in 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.960 process. We've had our kickoff meeting with that. Our air quality monitors are in 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:11.280 procurement right now. It's open for proposals. Low-income weatherization. We 00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.600 are trying to get some other plans that we can compare to so we're not 00:50:15.600 --> 00:50:21.800 reinventing the wheel and trying to find data sources for some of our low-income 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:26.760 programs where there's already verification process there that we don't 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:32.520 have to just completely start over. So I have some staff time on that and then the 00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:38.360 food fellows program is going to kick off in September with a compost class and 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:44.600 then move into planting, gardening, herb gardening, just trying gardening for 00:50:44.600 --> 00:50:49.160 everyone. So we'll work on that one and then we have started some alternative 00:50:49.160 --> 00:50:53.280 transportation education and we will work on that when it's not a hundred and 00:50:53.280 --> 00:51:00.840 five degrees and people want to walk in. City fluid electrification. We have some 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:07.200 hurdles there just due to supply issues. Rainwater capture and then the solar 00:51:07.200 --> 00:51:11.160 structures and efficiency upgrades are just taking a little bit longer to get 00:51:11.160 --> 00:51:18.840 off the ground. So the climate action plan RFP was awarded July 19th. We had 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:25.120 the kickoff on July 22nd and we had our engagement data and planning kickoff on 00:51:25.120 --> 00:51:29.480 the 11th of August. So moving pretty quickly right now we're still on target 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:37.240 for a May/June deliverable. As I said the air quality monitors are in purchasing 00:51:37.240 --> 00:51:43.240 and we're moving through the other two programs. So now we get to the fun part. 00:51:43.240 --> 00:51:51.960 Brainstorming, where to spend up to four million dollars on sustainability projects next year. 00:51:51.960 --> 00:52:12.960 We gave you the focus areas. We gave you the copy of the plan so you can refer to the focus areas and we want to open it up for discussion, ideas for projects that we could work on, anything that might fit under one of the eight focus areas. 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:24.800 My initial thought is that once we get the climate action plan back, this would 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:34.240 probably help us direct more specifics. So this is just kind of 00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:38.880 brainstorming and eventually it might change when we get those. I think we 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:51.400 can keep narrowing down because we get projects there that are more defined, maybe, for the climate action. 00:52:51.400 --> 00:53:03.400 Sorry, the delivery on the climate action plan is for 2023. What month? May/June. So that's almost a year and a half. 00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:09.400 So lots of time to think about that. And Michael is edging over this way. 00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:14.400 I was going to say, yes. Come on up here, he's supposed to be. 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:22.400 Michael Gotti, Director of Environmental Services and Sustainability. Just want to remind you, we're going to have the funds. They'll accrue next year as the funds come into the fund. 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:29.400 So it's projected we might get to four million. We would like input from y'all on what we could do during next year with those funds. 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:39.400 Knowing the climate action plan is coming, which will then refine some of that and the climate action plan should be timed excellent for the following year's work plan as well. 00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:45.400 So we're going to continue to have the fund. So there's things that y'all recommended this year that we didn't have funds for. 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:51.400 You want to continue those and move those into next year or you want to go a different direction. We just want to hear your input. 00:53:51.400 --> 00:54:00.400 The money could roll in kind of month by month. It could be larger slugs. It just kind of depends how it comes in. But it's projected to be up to four million next year. 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:14.400 Can I ask you a question? Is there any possibility of any funds coming in from this recent bill that was passed, the IRA, with all the incentives in it that the city could take advantage of? 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:25.400 There are potentials there, yes, and we are looking at that. I don't have any perfect details on that. This would be a separate, in a sense, separate pot of money to do other things with that we're here watching. 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.400 Great. You could keep us updated on that. That would be great. Thanks. 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.400 Thank you all. 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:41.400 I would like to add more to transportation, biking infrastructure, pedestrian infrastructure, put some more money towards that for sure. 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:52.400 I know sidewalks, I think that supplemental to the city budget would be helpful. 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:53.400 Any ideas? 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.400 I also had some ideas on transportation. 00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:57.400 Go ahead. 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:06.400 Some of it related to, kind of on the same strand as our alternative education program, but like an adult cycling training course. 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:21.400 Just because I know there's a lot of barriers that that was never part of your childhood when you have the flexibility to make mistakes and mess up, but as an adult in reality, if you're not already educated on how to operate a bike, it can be a really intimidating burden. 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:41.400 So I'm just curious if there is perhaps a local partnership maybe with the folks at Bike Denton, where we could partner some of those fundings to have a class specifically for that, as well as like fund things like if you are in early childhood development courses for younger children as well that we could go through the city, I think would be really fun. 00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:53.400 And then second, also under transportation, perhaps also greenhouse gas management, since our number one emissions factors, those vehicle miles traveled, looking at alternative transportation. 00:55:53.400 --> 00:56:07.400 Having been in Denver all summer, they have a really, really interesting bike rental program that's offered through the city that has qualifications and verifications to just ensure that their city resources are being allocated responsibly. 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:19.400 But if you don't have the means to independently purchase your own bicycle, it was a really cool program where they give you one effectively, you rent it from them, almost like a library book. 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:29.400 But kind of in the same vein, if that wasn't the direction we wanted to go, similar to how we do the solar rebate program, I'm curious if we could explore a bike rebate program. 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:33.400 I don't know if that would happen pre or post purchase, but just a couple ideas. 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:43.400 So just a question on the Denver program. So it wasn't one where there were the bikes around town, you had to go and apply and rent the bike from the city? 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:52.400 It would not be another lying situation for Denton. Yeah, it was a, call it a city fleet that you would apply towards, and I can email you this link if that's great. 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:53.400 That would be amazing. 00:56:53.400 --> 00:57:08.400 And so you would rent effectively as the same you would from a public library of book, you would rent from the city, from their city bike fleet for an appropriate amount of time after you presented them some qualification documents like actually proving residency in the city, and they would loan you this bike. 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:20.400 And I've seen that implemented in New York as well. So that was the program we could create, or again, the voucher rebate idea if you were to purchase a bike. 00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:25.400 We did a little bit of learning. 00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.400 We have a loaner program. 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.400 Years ago. 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:41.400 Wait, wait, sorry, I had a long flashback, but it was a city staff loaner program. And we have a bike shop over at the service center where we could work on. 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:54.400 The PD helped us with bike maintenance. So, one of the things we're talking about is getting with the sustainable schools program bringing back, is it bike rodeo? Am I making that up? No, we get bike rodeo. 00:57:54.400 --> 00:58:04.400 So, we could do an adult bike rodeo and a kids, you know, we used to set up at Collins and do the bike rodeo. 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:23.400 On this bike talk, if you set back up that center, people could bring their bikes that were broken or donated them and then they could, you know, be refurbished and keep them out of the landfills and, you know, give kids or adults bikes that can't afford them. 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:34.400 It's kind of like the bike repair clinic or even a bike repair room. 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:44.400 Similar to this education course is the how to actually repair and fix up your bike so it would be less of a cost burden if say it busted or the wheel fell off or whatever and you knew how to do that yourself. 00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:48.400 I would love that. I have a broken bike right now. 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:50.400 Anybody else? 00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:58.400 Yeah, this isn't about bikes. 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:02.400 Something like, I'd like to say brainstorming. 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:08.400 I don't know if DME wants to go into the battery charging business. 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:23.400 But I could see city-sponsored or city-owned charging stations at city facilities. 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:35.400 And especially with the projection of EV ownership, as we're all aware of, how that is going to become the norm. 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:49.400 And this ties in also with municipal projects like solar structures actually having parking lots, city parking lots that have solar screens that feed into battery chargers. 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:59.400 So, I mean, just looking down the road a little bit but we know what's coming and I think this should certainly be part of the discussion. 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:03.400 It also ties in with city fleet electrification too. 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:13.400 City is going to have to have battery chargers for its own vehicles so perhaps that program could be expanded to the public as well. 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:27.400 Yeah, I think if you look into the structures like in the city hall parking lot or the operations parking lot that has the solar on top, maybe we could help purchase some of those around. 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:33.400 Or even put a couple of fast chargers, you know, like one at the library or one, I don't even know. 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:39.400 I guess it would have to be a partnership with DME but we could look into that. 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:45.400 And there are a couple of chargers going in this week at the development services building. 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:53.400 And then I know that there's a grant out for a fast charger and I think a level two. 01:00:53.400 --> 01:01:00.400 This could be another IRA component too. 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:21.400 And I mean, as far as reducing waste and food waste, there was a program, I forget what city it is, that they handed out food processors, like free to homeowners to help reduce the food waste. 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:32.400 So I know we want to encourage composting but maybe not everybody wants to do it or they don't have a place to do it. 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:39.400 But they could, you know, have a food processor to help the waste go instead of. 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.400 Oh, the garbage disposal? 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:42.400 Yeah. 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.400 Okay. 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.400 Yeah, I'm saying food processing, sorry. 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.400 What are we making? 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:48.400 Sorry. 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:49.400 Garbage disposal. 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:50.400 That's right. 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.400 I read down that and I just kept reading it. 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.400 No, no, no, that's good, that's good. 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.400 You're like, she's gone insane. 01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:01.400 There's a lot that goes in my salsa, but I don't know. 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:02.400 Sorry, garbage disposal. 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:03.400 No, no, no, no, that's a great idea. 01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:04.400 I like that. 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:05.400 Yeah. 01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:06.400 I'm trying to look at the topics up here. 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:12.400 So water, water conservation, obviously needs to be in the forefront. 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.400 Any, any suggestions for water conservation? 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:21.400 I had water down because we kind of left it out of the older goals. 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:33.400 Water conservation, something about aren't there gadgets you can put on your sprinklers to control how much? 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:40.400 Rain sensors and moisture meters for irrigation for lawns. 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:42.400 Yeah. 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:48.400 I would like to look into having incentives for people to zero escape. 01:02:48.400 --> 01:03:00.400 I mean, I'm already looking at tearing our lawn out and changing it up because it's, I don't want to even see my water bill. 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:16.400 And on Keep It Beautiful, you know how they hand out trees, maybe we could partner with them and hand out native plants instead of just trees that take a lot of water to establish. 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:22.400 Like just a native plant giveaway or something, drought tolerant. 01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:25.400 Yeah, that would be a great, great campaign. 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:35.400 A lot of places look at doing that strip of land between the street and the sidewalk and incentivizing people to pull the lawn out of that area. 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:39.400 Plant, butterfly nards and other things. 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:46.400 But we don't have enough sidewalks to do something about that sadly. 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.400 But that's like another option. 01:03:51.400 --> 01:04:12.400 Well, and to go along with our National Wildlife Community Certification, if we incentivized kind of your habitat, plants, a box similar to what AgriLife used to do with their butterfly garden box with all the plants you need to create your habitat. 01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:17.400 Then it gives people a step ahead on that certification process as well. 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:22.400 Okay, native low water use. 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:27.400 I don't know how this would connect and it needs a lot more rainstorming, but kind of underwater, kind of our way of use. 01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:41.400 I know in our development code we allow in stormwater swales for those to be vegetated with native vegetation and that those don't have to be managed in the same way that we would manage a lawn. 01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:49.400 So I'm just wondering if there's, I don't know how often that gets adopted in someone's plan. 01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:51.400 I've only seen it crop up in a handful of times. 01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:59.400 Ryan High School did a project recently where they were redoing one of their drainages and decided to vegetate it with native vegetation. 01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:12.400 But only a handful of examples come to mind. I wonder if there's a way that we could encourage that route of water management a little bit more over just your turfed grass bio soils. 01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:20.400 I'm not sure exactly how that relationship would look like because we can't require it without changing the code. 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:32.400 I think that's something that Colleen, it sounds like she would be in favor, so I think we made a new ally with Colleen. 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.400 She's nice. 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:44.400 She is, she is. So I think that that's something that we can talk to development services about and see what would it take for more developments to choose something like that. 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:52.400 If it's a cost burden or just an education burden that it's an option for them or what to do with it after you've installed it and how to manage it. 01:05:52.400 --> 01:06:00.400 I'm not sure what the hurdles are. It's just strange to me that it's not taken up as much as it could be. 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:20.400 And have we, and we may do this, each department in the city, maybe if they have a copy of our goals and strategies and then they can kind of get back to us on what they think. Maybe they have an idea that they've wanted to do for a long time and haven't been able to because of restrictions. 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:37.400 I think that would be helpful for us too if there's a list. They might think of something that we might not. 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:55.400 Also, you may, you're probably aware of this, but North Texas, a gentleman named Patel is their energy manager now. And they are, they have their own carbon inventory. 01:06:55.400 --> 01:07:06.400 I'm working on the new one now, but they have two years passed, but they're starting their own discussion for a university climate action plan. 01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:20.400 So I think it would be good if we could include them in our dialogs in some cases as well because they seem to be on the same track. 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:23.400 Okay. And he's the energy manager? 01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:24.400 Yeah, I'll send you his information. 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:25.400 Okay, that'd be great. 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:27.400 Yeah. 01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:42.400 And so on water, too, we can talk to the other departments, talk to water and wastewater, and is there expanding plants and growing, what could we help them do to be more energy efficient? 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:46.400 And then at the same time, water conservation? 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:58.400 I'm kind of quiet because I don't know enough about what the other departments need, you know, or where money already exists to do some of this stuff. 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:22.400 Kind of like we were talking about with some of our first year projects where maybe we're paying an incremental cost. So maybe if drainage is going in and working on something, but then they weren't going to expand and take it outside of that drainage footprint. Maybe we do something to work on the areas along the drainage channel and improve that or restore that. 01:08:22.400 --> 01:08:47.400 Definitely like that idea. If there's a chance to do restoration in some areas. And I'm looking at, depending on how well some of the things go that we had earlier, I mean, if they are very successful, like the low income weatherization, maybe adding more money to that. 01:08:52.400 --> 01:09:02.400 And I think fleet, as more vehicles become available, that pot of money can grow. 01:09:02.400 --> 01:09:14.400 And on fleet, I don't remember, does that include, because I know at one point, like, parks got an electric lawnmower. I mean, does that include all of those things that we can electrify? 01:09:14.400 --> 01:09:16.400 Anything that would run through fleet. 01:09:16.400 --> 01:09:22.400 Yes. And so they're all aware of that. 01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:42.400 I think it's just the supply right now on the vehicles. What's out there doesn't necessarily match up with what was due for replacement right now. So conversation is happening with fleet to see how we can mesh things together to work a little better. 01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:58.400 So energy, even when we're at 100% renewable, of course we want energy efficiency, because these summer bills this year, everybody was hurrying. 01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:01.400 So the weatherization is going to be key to that. 01:10:01.400 --> 01:10:19.400 Our audit and rebate program, which is funded separately, still is something that we're working towards. The rebates, you'll hear about a little bit about next week, but trying to keep up with inflation, too, with our rebates. 01:10:19.400 --> 01:10:28.400 So talking about that, talking about how we can rethink our audit program in the future. 01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:39.400 Did the rebates, speaking of rebates, did that money run out really quickly again for like windows and solar? 01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:42.400 No, we still have funding in that program. 01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:53.400 The solar funds were deleted, but I think there's 110,000 left in the other part. That's what Tony told me. 01:10:53.400 --> 01:10:59.400 Do we rebate for electric lawn equipment? 01:10:59.400 --> 01:11:01.400 We do not yet. 01:11:01.400 --> 01:11:09.400 That might be something we can add. 01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:11.400 Anybody else? 01:11:11.400 --> 01:11:29.400 On energy, does DME do anything with smart grid technology, for example, are there some places where people can have their thermostat effectively controlled, they can opt into it to modulate when there's high demand? 01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:31.400 Do we have stuff like that? 01:11:31.400 --> 01:11:44.400 We do not currently have the demand management program for smart thermostats through DME. That is something that they've talked about with demand response in past conversations. 01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:49.400 I don't know where we are with that right now. We can get DME. We can ask that question next week. 01:11:49.400 --> 01:12:03.400 I'm wondering, because you're right, we have 100% renewable, at least kind of. We want to electrify more things so then we want to have a way to also decrease the demand on the grid, right? 01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:05.400 Yes. 01:12:05.400 --> 01:12:10.400 If we could play a role there, a small role. 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:16.400 On that note, do we give out or rebate for smart thermometers? 01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:17.400 We do. 01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:45.400 Okay. That is one of our rebates. We do electric vehicle rebate, HVAC, windows, insulation, ductwork. I don't know if there's a rebate for duct repairs. I'm forgetting something. I'm looking at JT. Which rebate did I forget? 01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:47.400 Duct tape. 01:12:47.400 --> 01:13:15.400 Maybe just as we increase the programs or add to it, just on that education and outreach, make sure that there's some funding that stays in there for that so that people know what's available to them. 01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:34.400 And putting native plants back in and trying to make that area more of a natural habitat. So those could be some projects that could be tackled more quickly than some others that require all of our ramp up to build a program. 01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:37.400 Would that be something you're interested in? 01:13:37.400 --> 01:14:03.400 I know for our last round of recommendations we talked about participating in our public land acquisition fund that parks overseas. I just wonder, and I vocalize a little opposition there because it's just way beyond the scale of our budget, but I wonder if the energies and resources we're thinking about for that space could be directed into these more very limited timeline projects like the smaller restoration thing. 01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:13.400 Kind of like the strip along the railroad off Colorado and Shady Oaks that parks just did that GOAT project on. Be an excellent candidate for something like a restoration project. 01:14:13.400 --> 01:14:17.400 Okay. I'm trying to think about exactly where that is. 01:14:17.400 --> 01:14:19.400 It's right across from Spencer Generating Plant. 01:14:19.400 --> 01:14:23.400 Oh, okay. I was thinking about the goats on my heels, right? 01:14:23.400 --> 01:14:25.400 That's right, yeah. 01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:27.400 Different GOAT project. 01:14:27.400 --> 01:14:37.400 And I mean, I think having a little sign like, you know, this restoration project was, you know, paid for by these funds so that people can see them being used. 01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:38.400 Start making the connection. 01:14:38.400 --> 01:14:48.400 In our community, yeah. And then it might trigger something in their head like, oh, I need to go find out what's going on. 01:14:48.400 --> 01:14:53.400 I can look up all the stuff we're doing. 01:14:53.400 --> 01:15:01.400 So anything else so far have been some of what we brainstormed on. 01:15:01.400 --> 01:15:04.400 Go ahead. 01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:10.400 Okay. So when we were talking about water, we were talking about irrigation classes and incentives. 01:15:10.400 --> 01:15:16.400 One of the things we learned is a lot of folks move into a new home and they don't know how to control their sprinkler system. 01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:17.400 They don't know how that controller works. 01:15:17.400 --> 01:15:34.400 So some classes about that, increased natural habitat stormwater controls at city facilities, previous paving, reclaimed water reuse, and then the ice swim support and stormwater impact reduction projects. 01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:36.400 So I think we kind of touched on most of that. 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:40.400 This is just a little more fleshed out maybe. 01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:49.400 But if these are things that kind of build in with what we were talking about with water, then we can build, mesh that all together with the notes. 01:15:49.400 --> 01:15:59.400 Yeah. On the previous paving, how would, where would that be implemented and how? Would that like the development services department or? 01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:03.400 It could be the development services. It could be on city projects. 01:16:03.400 --> 01:16:05.400 Okay. 01:16:05.400 --> 01:16:10.400 You know, we've seen some really great purviews paving and some not so great. 01:16:10.400 --> 01:16:11.400 Right. Yeah. Yeah. 01:16:11.400 --> 01:16:18.400 So some best practices maybe that we can demonstrate on city projects to try to get the development community to buy in. 01:16:18.400 --> 01:16:20.400 Okay. 01:16:20.400 --> 01:16:24.400 What are some of the like irrigation classes and incentives? 01:16:24.400 --> 01:16:29.400 I mean, incentives go to people to change their habits. 01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:36.400 Classes require people to, I guess they could do it. You could do everything online. It requires them kind of buying into that. 01:16:36.400 --> 01:16:41.400 Unless there's more outreach with irrigation. 01:16:41.400 --> 01:16:46.400 So I believe we did two irrigation classes this year so far. 01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:57.400 You know, and maybe it's encouraging folks to learn how to install drip irrigation instead of the sprinkler heads and moving more to that type of system. 01:16:57.400 --> 01:17:04.400 And then just learning about their controller and then how to water their yard where rather than soaking it, you know, 01:17:04.400 --> 01:17:12.400 and everything running off after doing a 10 minute zone, you know, do it a couple of times and not as frequently throughout the week. 01:17:12.400 --> 01:17:16.400 So there's just different methods depending on your soil. 01:17:16.400 --> 01:17:28.400 And we provide for engaging other tools in those classes. But it could be a virtual class, it could be an in-person class. 01:17:28.400 --> 01:17:35.400 And then maybe work with someone in town that have a rebate for some of the supplies. 01:17:35.400 --> 01:17:40.400 Have we ever done virtual classes for irrigation? 01:17:40.400 --> 01:17:42.400 I believe one. 01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:49.400 Okay. I just wonder if that's something that maybe we partner with DTV and we record it once. 01:17:49.400 --> 01:17:54.400 And you know, it's something that could be available online for people because I know obviously with class attendance as if anything, 01:17:54.400 --> 01:18:00.400 it's very scheduled and lifestyle driven that it's difficult to get people to come out to participate. 01:18:00.400 --> 01:18:06.400 But I just wonder having something as like a resource posted would be really easily accessible when, okay, I'm at my house. 01:18:06.400 --> 01:18:10.400 I'm looking at my controller right now. I could pull up something. 01:18:10.400 --> 01:18:15.400 It would just be if we're already doing classes in person, it might be worth the time to build it. 01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:22.400 That would be like the composting. If there was like a bunch of things available. 01:18:22.400 --> 01:18:29.400 I meet so many people who are like, I live in a new house, I know nothing about landscaping or growing plants. 01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:38.400 So they just resort to whatever else, which is mow grass and water grass. That's it. That's it. 01:18:38.400 --> 01:18:49.400 So I think that's a great idea for us or for the department to partnership with DTV on some of these 01:18:49.400 --> 01:18:58.400 main issues that somebody may want to look up on their own in their own time for information. 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:05.400 If somebody wants to volunteer their house and their sprinkler system. 01:19:05.400 --> 01:19:15.400 I'm willing. So we did have the electric landscape equipment incentives as an idea. 01:19:15.400 --> 01:19:23.400 Would that just apply to homeowners? Because a lot of that equipment is being used by landscapers. 01:19:23.400 --> 01:19:29.400 So that's where you make the difference is that you get those guys to go electric. 01:19:29.400 --> 01:19:36.400 One of the ones who are doing 90 percent of the mowing, blowing, edging and weeding in the city. 01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:41.400 That's a total gap. That's why I see it. 01:19:41.400 --> 01:19:49.400 There is a lot of that. I think we would just have to find a way to make sure that equipment 01:19:49.400 --> 01:19:55.400 was being used in the city of Denton primarily. So if we could have some type of verification. 01:19:55.400 --> 01:20:00.400 If it's a local company. If it's a local company. Right. 01:20:00.400 --> 01:20:04.400 I mean, we know a lot of the landscapers in town, but they're always changing. 01:20:04.400 --> 01:20:13.400 So we can ask about that and then make it something that we work with our contractors to ask that they use electric equipment. 01:20:13.400 --> 01:20:20.400 I think it might be a higher priority to just ensure at first city departments or contractors 01:20:20.400 --> 01:20:26.400 who are doing landscaping that we can replace or as things come up for replacement. 01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:31.400 Encourage them to adopt an electric vehicle or equipment. 01:20:31.400 --> 01:20:38.400 And that might be almost more of a demonstration and that might also encourage more uptake from businesses. 01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:45.400 I just think it might get messy if we're trying to, might look weird if we're giving money to businesses. 01:20:45.400 --> 01:20:49.400 Versus incentivizing residents to purchase equipment. I think it's a whole different category. 01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:56.400 But I would love to see all city vehicles and equipment first being electrified before we start talking about something else. 01:20:56.400 --> 01:21:00.400 We're in Texas giving money to businesses. 01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:06.400 I just added that one way you can do that with the businesses is you can incentivize the person hiring the company 01:21:06.400 --> 01:21:11.400 to where we offset the cost of that service if they can verify and confirm they're using electric. 01:21:11.400 --> 01:21:16.400 That way we're actually giving it back to the folks in Denton instead of directly to the business. 01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:23.400 Sounds good. 01:21:23.400 --> 01:21:30.400 Alright. And I love my electric lawnmower. It is awesome. 01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:34.400 I recommend that. 01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:39.400 So facility fund support for energy, water conservation and management. 01:21:39.400 --> 01:21:50.400 Internal facilities still bring improvement on our internal facilities. We know that through our tracking and management. 01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:57.400 So land use. I mentioned this a little bit with restoration, walking trails. 01:21:57.400 --> 01:22:02.400 A little bit more of a scenic stroll type of environment where you've got some shade. 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:06.400 We've talked about that before where nobody wants to walk on the sidewalk. 01:22:06.400 --> 01:22:13.400 It's 105 degrees right next to the street so we can get them off into the green space with some trees. 01:22:13.400 --> 01:22:20.400 Maybe a surface that isn't concrete. 01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:28.400 I think that would be something that we would all like to see including the green infrastructure with drainage. 01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:37.400 NWF community support. I mentioned the boxes for PAPTAP, pollinator way station, pocket prairies, tree rescue. 01:22:37.400 --> 01:22:44.400 Anything that we can do along those lines I think fits in with what we've talked about today. 01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:51.400 Is there anything else that jogs something for you in land use? 01:22:51.400 --> 01:22:55.400 Anybody? 01:22:55.400 --> 01:23:08.400 I guess the only thing I can think of and I think it's already being addressed is that Parks was talking about plantings to stop the erosion. 01:23:08.400 --> 01:23:18.400 Like in Avondale where the banks have just collapsed and there's actually hazard fence up. 01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:28.400 Keep people from going over the precipice. But that might go in with the green infrastructure in terms of the drainage. 01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:34.400 They restore some of the riparian habitat. 01:23:34.400 --> 01:23:36.400 Is that all the drainage area there? 01:23:36.400 --> 01:23:38.400 Yeah. 01:23:38.400 --> 01:23:49.400 Like after this rain storm when the level goes up it just rips it up because there's no trees in that particular part. There's no root systems to hold the soil in. 01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:52.400 Okay. So it sounds like some grasses. 01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:58.400 What I'm afraid of is they're going to say the only thing we can do now is channel this and put concrete in. 01:23:58.400 --> 01:23:59.400 No. 01:23:59.400 --> 01:24:02.400 I don't want that. 01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:08.400 All right. And we've seen some other technologies on some other channels that have challenges. 01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:17.400 I'll chain myself too. I'll lay down. 01:24:17.400 --> 01:24:25.400 All right. So there are alternative transportation incentives, city facility, EV charging, bike infrastructure, bike repair, education clinics. 01:24:25.400 --> 01:24:28.400 I love the bike rental idea. 01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:46.400 Definitely got that. And then anything that we might be able to do to help encourage bike infrastructure, pedestrian infrastructure, I think will fit with the transportation sector. 01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:48.400 I think we covered it. 01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:49.400 Okay. 01:24:49.400 --> 01:24:58.400 I mean just adding that the bike repair and education and what did you say it used to be? 01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:10.400 We did our training. It was a bike rodeo and there was like a skills contest at the half day out at Collins Stadium. 01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:16.400 We were going to talk to the PD and see if they were still willing to do any of that in sustainable schools. 01:25:16.400 --> 01:25:23.400 So we can visit with them and if they don't have the resources, I'm sure they can point us to some resources that can help with some adult clinics. 01:25:23.400 --> 01:25:28.400 And I was going to say there may be some bike shops around that may want to partner. 01:25:28.400 --> 01:25:31.400 Yeah. I think we'd open it up to all the bike shops in town. 01:25:31.400 --> 01:25:43.400 Yes, ma'am. 01:25:43.400 --> 01:25:49.400 So we talked a little bit about bringing businesses into education and outreach. 01:25:49.400 --> 01:25:54.400 I have reductions in education materials for businesses. 01:25:54.400 --> 01:25:57.400 Privat removal, just education to the community. 01:25:57.400 --> 01:26:10.400 But if we remove Privat, what we can put back in its place that may be a better food source, better habitat, materials resource management, 01:26:10.400 --> 01:26:18.400 the locking bars and chute lids have done amazing things with our recycling contamination. 01:26:18.400 --> 01:26:23.400 So maybe supporting some of the there is a cost associated with it. 01:26:23.400 --> 01:26:32.400 So maybe supporting that cost for some businesses that may not want to invest in it, but it's going to be the best practice going forward. 01:26:32.400 --> 01:26:36.400 So maybe a little bit of support for that. 01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:42.400 New downtown recycling containers that are appropriately sized. 01:26:42.400 --> 01:26:49.400 You know, the big bellies were there long before we had as much restaurant activity on the square. 01:26:49.400 --> 01:26:52.400 So the waste stream has changed since we talked about that before. 01:26:52.400 --> 01:27:02.400 So I think that looking at some different alternatives for recycling to make sure that we're actually capturing recycling instead of all the trash would be great. 01:27:02.400 --> 01:27:06.400 How do those recycling containers work downtown? 01:27:06.400 --> 01:27:10.400 Does the city, does the recycling, do they come in? 01:27:10.400 --> 01:27:15.400 How do we know that that all goes to recycling and is it contaminated? 01:27:15.400 --> 01:27:17.400 So our valet team picks those up. 01:27:17.400 --> 01:27:18.400 Okay. 01:27:18.400 --> 01:27:20.400 Yes, valet. 01:27:20.400 --> 01:27:21.400 Yeah, valet. 01:27:21.400 --> 01:27:24.400 So the valet that does the big bellies. 01:27:24.400 --> 01:27:28.400 Well, they're emptying the big bellies, too, since they're in the area. 01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:29.400 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 01:27:29.400 --> 01:27:34.400 Yeah, they're almost always contaminated. 01:27:34.400 --> 01:27:35.400 Okay. 01:27:35.400 --> 01:27:40.400 Yeah, yeah, I would think so. 01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:47.400 So yeah, maybe when we do that, just something that would be a little more restrictive lid. 01:27:47.400 --> 01:27:53.400 Probably maybe focus on bottles and canes, not wet waste. 01:27:53.400 --> 01:27:56.400 That's what the primary contaminants are. 01:27:56.400 --> 01:27:57.400 Yeah. 01:27:57.400 --> 01:28:01.400 I'd like just a second idling reduction efforts. 01:28:01.400 --> 01:28:02.400 Okay. 01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:13.400 There's been work done over in my neighborhood where they bring those huge trucks come in. 01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:15.400 I don't know what the correct name is. 01:28:15.400 --> 01:28:20.400 They're like a dump truck on steroids, really long. 01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:28.400 And they just sit there in the street with their engines on, waiting to be told to come and do whatever they need to do. 01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:32.400 They're gone now, fortunately, but I see a lot of that. 01:28:32.400 --> 01:28:45.400 And even certain businesses, when they deliver their services and are out of their vehicle for a while, keep the engines running. 01:28:45.400 --> 01:28:54.400 I think a lot of people don't know about the restrictions on that. 01:28:54.400 --> 01:29:01.400 Well, then the idling restrictions, aren't they just for the City of Denton vehicles right now, the ordinance? 01:29:01.400 --> 01:29:07.400 There have been some changes with COG on the state's idling. 01:29:07.400 --> 01:29:08.400 Okay. 01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:11.400 So there's some updates coming on that. 01:29:11.400 --> 01:29:14.400 Good. 01:29:14.400 --> 01:29:16.400 Brandon, did you have something else? 01:29:16.400 --> 01:29:17.400 No. 01:29:17.400 --> 01:29:21.400 I was wondering if you could go into the organics program expansion. 01:29:21.400 --> 01:29:28.400 So we're going to want to have a pilot organics on the square. 01:29:28.400 --> 01:29:30.400 It's a co-grant. 01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:38.400 So we put a placeholder in there if that's accessible to maybe expand that to other areas of town. 01:29:38.400 --> 01:29:45.400 It will work nastily with the ballet, since we already have the individual touches of the restaurants downtown. 01:29:45.400 --> 01:29:51.400 We talked about this on our agenda item when we discussed the downtown ballet service, right? 01:29:51.400 --> 01:29:54.400 Yes. 01:29:54.400 --> 01:30:05.400 And on the star foam, I know that we don't recycle star foam, but another city, we recommend that people take it to Dallas or some place has? 01:30:05.400 --> 01:30:07.400 There's a place in Dallas and then Frisco. 01:30:07.400 --> 01:30:09.400 That also has a densifier. 01:30:09.400 --> 01:30:16.400 So we have been talking about doing some collection events where people can bring it and drop it off and we can take one large load. 01:30:16.400 --> 01:30:19.400 Yeah, I would like that. 01:30:19.400 --> 01:30:36.400 And then also with some of the larger plastics like the rubber made containers that don't go through our recycling facility well, but still could be compacted and recycled, special collections or drop-offs for this. 01:30:36.400 --> 01:30:39.400 And then, of course, sustainable purchasing support. 01:30:39.400 --> 01:30:50.400 We work with our purchasing team to make sure that folks are thinking about what they're purchasing and could there be a different fit for that. 01:30:50.400 --> 01:31:00.400 If we come to anything where there may be a cost incentive or a cost differential, maybe we need to incentivize it a little bit to get it over the hump to a better choice. 01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:13.400 Has there been any specific attention given to plastic reduction, as in plastic water bottles and vending machines and stuff like that? 01:31:13.400 --> 01:31:21.400 We were making some strides with that before COVID and then single use became the norm again. 01:31:21.400 --> 01:31:31.400 So I think we'll start moving in that direction again. 01:31:31.400 --> 01:31:36.400 So local food and community gardens for funding. 01:31:36.400 --> 01:31:43.400 Maybe we can partner with organizations to establish more community gardens that are closer to where people live. 01:31:43.400 --> 01:31:58.400 The Shiloh model is working really well with the raised beds, so if we can have someone from Shiloh come in and help teach classes about how to get the most production out of those raised beds, I think that would be a great community benefit. 01:31:58.400 --> 01:32:10.400 And then eco-friendly playgrounds, wellness workout stations, something that I see whenever I travel around places and you see more of that active lifestyle type of equipment for adults as well as children. 01:32:10.400 --> 01:32:17.400 So we talked about that and then we mentioned the curvy trails. 01:32:17.400 --> 01:32:23.400 And on the community garden, I know that we just have one now at Bowling Green Park near North Lakes. 01:32:23.400 --> 01:32:31.400 I think having one over on the southern town maybe by MLK, just a small community garden would be great. It would balance it out. 01:32:31.400 --> 01:32:39.400 Yeah, I agree with that. And then maybe even one at Dania. 01:32:39.400 --> 01:32:48.400 I woke up in when Drew Huston was working on this. He was really thinking about a project that was like edible landscaping out at MLK. 01:32:48.400 --> 01:33:02.400 So I wondered too, perhaps that idea could be exported to just other city facilities if there's a specific space, especially if it's a high traffic space where more edible landscaping could be installed. 01:33:02.400 --> 01:33:14.400 I would have distributed a little bit more, but I like intentional urban gardens as well. It would be cool to have more than just the one town by North Lakes. 01:33:14.400 --> 01:33:23.400 Don't we do foraging classes? We haven't done a foraging class in a while, but yes we have in the past. 01:33:23.400 --> 01:33:32.400 I need to find a new instructor. So we'll provide some feedback on the brainstorming at our next meeting. 01:33:32.400 --> 01:33:41.400 We'll reach out to departments and see what projects they might have on that back burner, if they need a little bit more of an incentive or some funding to help them get that started. 01:33:41.400 --> 01:33:50.400 And we will come back with some flushed out ideas, more ideas at our next meeting. 01:33:50.400 --> 01:33:53.400 We'll come up with anything in the meantime, feel free. 01:33:53.400 --> 01:34:03.400 Yeah, those are really great. Thanks everybody. 01:34:03.400 --> 01:34:15.400 Alright, we will move on to our next item. E, Receiver Report and Public Discussion on an Update Regarding Climate Action Adaptation Planning. 01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:25.400 That would be me again. I'll just say it. So just a little bit of background, progress update and next steps. 01:34:25.400 --> 01:34:36.400 So the framework referenced the development of a climate action plan, so we did move forward with that with the council recommendation in March. 01:34:36.400 --> 01:34:41.400 We used the sustainability framework on dollars to secure the consulting contract. 01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:48.400 Sustainable Solutions Group was selected as the consultant. As I said earlier, we had our pick off at the end of July. 01:34:48.400 --> 01:34:59.400 We started working on the data transfer, started working on the pre-engagement strategies, and the pre-engagement is going to be very important. 01:34:59.400 --> 01:35:04.400 And I hope you all saw the email with the request for a couple of names. 01:35:04.400 --> 01:35:13.400 What they're asking for with the pre-engagement is to get folks who are very engaged in the community to talk to them about how best to engage dentally 01:35:13.400 --> 01:35:20.400 so that we get as much support, not as much support, but as much feedback as we developed the climate action plan. 01:35:20.400 --> 01:35:24.400 We want people who are for and against it, so it doesn't have to be just supporters. 01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:30.400 And a lot of times with our public engagement, it's the same small crowd that comes out. 01:35:30.400 --> 01:35:36.400 We would like to develop a larger audience for the development of the climate plan. 01:35:36.400 --> 01:35:40.400 So that's what the pre-engagement request was. 01:35:40.400 --> 01:35:48.400 Just if you know anybody that's engaged in the community, that would be a great person for them to talk to about denting and how to engage with folks. 01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:58.400 We're always looking for more ideas. We try as many avenues as we can, and it still feels like that one-on-one conversation is the best way, which is good. 01:35:58.400 --> 01:36:03.400 Now we're back out in the community and we're having this. 01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:15.400 So just to clarify, you would like names of individuals who not necessarily are environmental and climate-focused, but are like marketing outreach-focused? 01:36:15.400 --> 01:36:19.400 Marketing outreach-focused or community that are really engaged in the community. 01:36:19.400 --> 01:36:21.400 Okay. 01:36:21.400 --> 01:36:28.400 Yeah, we all know people that touch different segments of the community that maybe weren't involved in. 01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:33.400 So just a wide range of folks for them to choose from. 01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:41.400 And then they'll only take about six of the 20 and 24 names that we get, and then they'll compile all those results. 01:36:41.400 --> 01:36:48.400 So I'll just verify that someone's willing to be interviewed, and then they'll choose who they're going to interview. 01:36:48.400 --> 01:36:54.400 Are you going to help the interviewees kind of understand the expectations that this meeting is going to have? 01:36:54.400 --> 01:36:55.400 Yes. 01:36:55.400 --> 01:36:58.400 Okay, excellent. 01:36:58.400 --> 01:37:04.400 We will have to reach out to everyone before their names are given to our SSG. 01:37:04.400 --> 01:37:17.400 So they are scheduled for a presentation with ESMAC in September, and we should be pretty well along with the data collection and about ready to kick off the full engagement plan by then. 01:37:17.400 --> 01:37:28.400 I think it would be nice to hear from them how they work through the process of developing a plan and their engagement strategies. 01:37:28.400 --> 01:37:34.400 It's been interesting so far in our meetings with them, just the different approaches they take. 01:37:34.400 --> 01:37:39.400 Any questions on that? 01:37:39.400 --> 01:37:47.400 Can you tell me what other cities they've worked with, if any? 01:37:47.400 --> 01:37:55.400 Not off the top of my head. 01:37:55.400 --> 01:37:57.400 I can give you a list. 01:37:57.400 --> 01:37:59.400 This isn't their first? 01:37:59.400 --> 01:38:12.400 No, it will be their first one in Texas, but they do have one of the team, and she's been with Tina I think for about five years, and she does live in Austin. 01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:18.400 So she's familiar with Texas, but they have not done a plan in Texas before. 01:38:18.400 --> 01:38:25.400 They've got a really interesting website that has a lot of, they've done a lot of stuff. 01:38:25.400 --> 01:38:26.400 A lot in Canada? 01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:30.400 Yeah, they're in Vancouver. 01:38:30.400 --> 01:38:34.400 And they just opened an Albany office recently. 01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:39.400 So in my mind, I have kind of like the 2030 plan process. 01:38:39.400 --> 01:38:46.400 Do you think it will look something kind of like that in terms of the community engagement type activities? 01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:56.400 So there will be focus groups, there will be one-on-one meeting in a box kind of things, or we can go out to neighborhood meetings. 01:38:56.400 --> 01:38:59.400 Similar to 2030? 01:38:59.400 --> 01:39:01.400 2040? 01:39:01.400 --> 01:39:03.400 Yeah, no, 2040. 01:39:03.400 --> 01:39:08.400 Yeah, similar. 01:39:08.400 --> 01:39:11.400 Okay, thank you. 01:39:11.400 --> 01:39:16.400 I guess if you want to, we're on staff reports, so if you want to stay on out there. 01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:17.400 Sure. 01:39:17.400 --> 01:39:18.400 Comfortable. 01:39:18.400 --> 01:39:22.400 I may go grab the matrix, though. 01:39:22.400 --> 01:39:30.400 Dan, kind of wave at everyone, we have the Bird City, Texas update, and Dan is our new sustainability coordinator. 01:39:30.400 --> 01:39:32.400 Hello, welcome. 01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:44.400 Dan is already working on our Bird City re-application, and he's been great working with NWF and all things wildlife. 01:39:44.400 --> 01:39:51.400 As well as the mom action plan and everything else, but he's getting us caught up on all things wildlife. 01:39:51.400 --> 01:39:54.400 Alright, now I read the update, it was pretty good, it's good. 01:39:54.400 --> 01:40:00.400 Do you have any questions for him about that? 01:40:00.400 --> 01:40:06.400 Okay, I'll grab the matrix. 01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:10.400 Any questions on the matrix? 01:40:10.400 --> 01:40:15.400 Matrix questions? 01:40:15.400 --> 01:40:20.400 Do you have any questions about the matrix for us? 01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:23.400 I don't have any about the matrix for you? 01:40:23.400 --> 01:40:26.400 Okay. 01:40:26.400 --> 01:40:31.400 Alright, well, it looks like we're good on the matrix. 01:40:31.400 --> 01:40:37.400 So we can move on to our last concluding items. 01:40:37.400 --> 01:40:48.400 Does anybody have anything they want to add to the matrix, any new business items you would like to discuss? 01:40:48.400 --> 01:40:49.400 Adam? 01:40:49.400 --> 01:41:01.400 This was raised by Ed already, the IRA, which I think is going to have maybe a lot of funding for cities seeking climate goals. 01:41:01.400 --> 01:41:06.400 It'd be nice, I don't know if this is necessarily a matrix item, but something to just keep on our radar. 01:41:06.400 --> 01:41:14.400 And I'm really curious about does the city have, do we feel like we have the staff and the infrastructure in place to identify those funds 01:41:14.400 --> 01:41:20.400 and feed them into the projects that we want to have going, you know? 01:41:20.400 --> 01:41:27.400 So maybe if it's not a whole presentation, maybe just an update in the staff report for next meeting on that? 01:41:27.400 --> 01:41:33.400 Because I think I did hear we were looking into it. 01:41:33.400 --> 01:41:36.400 So that's good. 01:41:36.400 --> 01:41:38.400 That'd be good information for us to have. 01:41:38.400 --> 01:41:49.400 Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, I'd like to see if we can find out how much carbon is sequestered by our current tree canopy. 01:41:49.400 --> 01:42:06.400 And also at some point, discussion of perhaps future incentives with developers for zero escape. 01:42:06.400 --> 01:42:09.400 I think everybody good? 01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:11.400 Thank you, everyone, for your time today. 01:42:11.400 --> 01:42:17.400 I believe we are done and we will close the meeting at 2.44. 01:42:17.400 --> 01:42:18.400 Thank you.