>> Thank you. I'm going to get.
I thought I heard him coming.
So items for individual
consideration, MC22020, consider
approval of the minutes of July
20th, 2022, you're just in time.
Can I get a motion for approval
of the minutes?
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Okay. So the approval of the
minutes have been approved.
Next item on the agenda is MC22024,
receive a report, hold a
discussion, and give staff
direction on adding a public
comment section to the Mobility
Committee agenda.
>> So thank you very much.
So really what we wanted to do
today is take the opportunity
to talk about -- I know last
meeting we actually had a
conversation about adding a
public comment section.
It wasn't formalized.
So we just wanted to entertain
today if the committee is still
interested in having that public
comment.
And so then staff will work
forward with adding that to the
agendas from here on out.
But we just needed to work
through the process of
formalizing it.
>> Yeah.
So obviously I brought this up
last month.
We had a member of the public
who was here to comment last
month.
And being a body that's
governed by the Texas Open
Meetings Act, if someone shows
up and wants to comment, we are
going to let them.
But I just think that it would
help with clarity and everybody
being on the same page and
communication with members of
the public if we had an actual
agenda item to sort of clearly
communicate that, yes, members
of the public are allowed to
comment on these meetings.
>> Any additional comments?
>> No.
>> So I move approval.
>> What rules would govern it?
Would it be the same -- three
minutes, four minutes?
>> Oh, good point.
I don't know that we -- do we
have -- what are the rules
governing public comment, for
example, at P&Z meetings?
Is it the same as council
meetings?
>> Typically it is the same
requirements of the three to
four minutes.
So we can work through -- I
don't know, Marcella, if you
have any additional feedback on
that, but we would work through
following the same procedures
as the standard open meetings
at it.
>> Yeah.
So generally it would be the
same.
So it would be the same
procedures as the standard open
meetings.
There is some leeway in time
length and things like that.
It just has to be posted on the
agenda and clear what the
procedures are ahead of time so
that everyone knows, you know,
what's going on.
And then if you're going to
allow public comment that would
have a subject matter, then
there would be some additional
restrictions on that related to
Texas open meetings because that
speaker would only be able to
speak on that subject matter.
But if it's just a general
public comment period, then
there's -- you know, they can
comment openly on the discussion.
>> And so my question would be
you all guiding us on setting
the agenda that's going to
reflect all of that if someone
calls in and has something
that's related to the items, you
all will have already had that
information as we do on our
agendas for the city council
meeting.
Is there an agenda item that
we can call in and have to call
in early?
>> Can I make a -- have a
response?
>> Yes.
>> I don't think we need to have
a public comment like we do for
citizens' reports or open mic.
I think if there's a public
comment, it should relate
directly to an agenda item that
we are considering because, I
mean, I just don't think that
would be appropriate for a
subcommittee because we are a
subcommittee and if they want to
share with the full council on
the agenda, I think they would
be able to do that at council
meetings, which are more -- I
think we meet, what, is it once
a month?
Twice a month?
>> Twice a month.
>> So same frequency.
And then they're addressing the
whole council.
So if they want to address, in
my opinion, if they want to
address something on the agenda,
it would almost be like an item
for individual consideration
that if someone is here and
they want to speak on something
on the agenda, well, then we
have a process whereby they can
either fill out a blue card or
probably not.
It could be more informal than
that.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's the
purpose of this.
I don't know if that's the
purpose of this, whatever it is
that we do.
But to have it as an open mic or
a citizen's report on talk about
anything, quite frankly, I mean,
that would open this up to
people coming in here talking
about all kinds of things that
aren't mobility related.
And then we also would have to
decide, well, how many people,
how many speakers do you limit
it to?
>> Yeah.
>> So those are just my
thoughts on it because, I mean,
we're here to talk about
mobility issues.
>> Yeah.
>> And I certainly want to hear
what they have to say about
that.
>> Okay.
>> But something else?
Yeah.
>> I think that's a fair
concern.
My only question would be for
legal, like, are we allowed to
limit it to only items that are
on the agenda or do we, you
know, under TOMA, have to allow
for just general comments?
>> So that would mostly depend
on how it's written on the
agenda.
So on our council agendas, for
example, there's two separate
places for public comment.
There's that open mic section
where they can kind of
preregister and talk on any
subject.
And then there's citizen comment
on consent.
And then I believe it's the
white cards that they submit for
each individual consideration
item.
So it would just depend on how
it's written in the agenda.
>> Well, I think the thing
-- I think the thrust of her
question was does TOMA -- because
I know we had some legal status
reports on TOMA and people
speaking at council meetings,
that you have to allow them to
speak.
But I think the question was,
can we limit their input to
just the specific agenda item,
substantive agenda item, or do
they have a right to speak on
anything?
And based on your response, what
I thought I heard you say was if
we've posted it as a general
public comment and an open mic,
they can.
But does TOMA require a body
such as this that's subject to
TOMA have to let someone speak
on anything that's unrelated to
anything on the agenda?
>> So that's where my answer
came on, how it was written on
the agenda.
So if it's posted as public
comment or open reports from
the public, then there is that
expectation that the public
could be --
>> So if it's not, then TOMA
doesn't require it -- TOMA
doesn't require us to provide a
public comment section or if we
put it on there, that's fine.
But it doesn't require us to do
that.
>> Correct, yeah.
TOMA relates to when
deliberations are taken in
public.
>> Okay.
All right.
>> Okay.
Well, so to address the concern
that, you know, we want to kind
of keep it on topic, given that
this is a very, you know, kind
of specific subcommittee, would
it be better then, instead of
having a public comment section
on the agenda, to just have
instructions at the top of the
agenda for if you want to
comment on one of these agenda
items, here's how you do it.
>> I think that's more
appropriate.
>> I would be fine with that.
>> Okay.
So that's the way it will be
written out on the agenda at our
meetings.
>> Okay.
>> And if anybody wants to speak
to the mobility committee on an
item, then that's the direction
that we'll go.
Is that what I'm hearing?
>> Yes, yeah.
No, that's about me.
>> All right.
>> Do we need a motion?
>> I think we're probably good.
>> Well, just for clarification,
so if there is an item that's not
posted on the agenda that someone
would like to speak with, is the
committee comfortable with having
that individual speak with them
individually so that if it's
something y'all would like to
bring up during the future agenda
item section that we could work
through that?
Because some of the things that
happen are we have individuals
that reach out and say they want
to make a presentation to Traffic
Safety Commission, Mobility
Committee, et cetera, which I'm
perfectly fine with working
through that process, but maybe
what we might be able to work
through is if there is an
individual who wants to do so,
then bring it to one of the
individuals who are on either
the committee or the commission's
attention, and then we add that
as a possible future agenda item
so that it would then be posted
and they could speak on it.
Does that work okay?
>> Yes.
>> That could be one solution.
I would almost feel more
comfortable if somebody is
really wanting to give a
presentation directing them to
come to a council meeting.
>> Okay.
>> And do that during the public
comment, like pre-register.
>> Sure.
>> For public comment at
council meeting.
>> That makes sense, too.
>> Because generally, if
somebody is coming before this
committee with a presentation,
it's because they want to give
it in public.
>> Sure.
>> Not just in a private
conversation.
But yeah, I think that would be
fine.
>> And there are times that
there's an operational issue
that they might want us to look
into that they want to bring
before this committee that, you
know, there might be -- I mean,
I'll just use an example.
Bike bollards on a certain
location, you know, they might
want to bring to this committee
or to traffic safety because
it's a specific item related to
that.
So that was the reason why I
had the question is how do we
work through that?
But I think I understand.
So would you like to repeat?
>> So I mean, my direction --
this is just me.
I don't think I speak for the
body necessarily.
But my direction would be if
someone comes -- not traffic
safety because that's a citizen
committee, right?
But if somebody wants to speak
to the mobility committee about
a topic that's not listed on an
agenda, that they be encouraged
to preregister to speak in a
council meeting.
>> Okay.
And then we'll just include in
the agenda instructions on how
they would actually speak
specifically on a posted item.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
Great.
Got it.
Thank you.
>> I don't think we need a
motion or anything.
>> Yeah, no, it's just
direction.
Is everybody else in agreement
with the idea of directing folks
to preregister for council
meetings?
Is that more appropriate?
Okay.
Thank you.
Also that we'll move on --
>> I'm sorry, Councilmember
McGuire.
I do want to mention also that
those would be individuals that
would have to be able to come in
person because our committee
currently does not have the
ability to have someone call in
for this specific meeting.
>> Yes.
Yeah.
And I was aware of that.
But thank you for stating that
explicitly.
>> I apologize.
I just wanted to make sure.
>> Public commenters must be
present in person for this
committee.
>> Okay.
And we'll also add that to the
report.
I'm sorry.
We'll also add that to the
report.
I'm sorry.
I just wanted to make sure.
>> Okay.
So we'll move on to NCE 22019,
receive a report, hold
discussion, and give staff
direction regarding the revised
mobility committee meeting
schedule for 2022.
>> Absolutely.
So as you are aware, we meet
monthly.
And we are currently meeting on
the third Wednesday of the
month from 9 to 11 a.m.
>> Okay.
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>> So I-35 North, again, it's
December of next year, so if
you're going from here to
Oklahoma, I'm not sure why you
would, but if you are, it's all
going to be under construction.
We're going to get to the good
news here in a second.
Here we go.
All right.
So the Texas Transportation
Commission in its August
meeting on August 30th will be
reviewing the draft 10-year
unified transportation plan.
The draft unified transportation
plan will include and does
include, and will still be there
in September if they approve it
as is, $188 million for the
construction of the frontage
roads from 407 to the Loop 288,
2449 project.
So after this month, we'll check
with the powers of the bay.
If they don't change it, then
they rarely change it between
August and September.
We will show, going forward, the
funding will go from an asterisk
to $188 million in the year that
they put it in.
So essentially, this is one of
those projects where we started
not knowing where the money is
going to come from back in the
day.
So you see, the schematic was
approved in 2020, which means
we were working on it for two or
three years before that.
And now we've got the money, but
we still got to go through all
the processes of acquiring the
right-of-way, moving the
utilities, and designing the
project.
And keep in mind, that $188
million doesn't just build the
frontage roads.
If it comes to a cross street,
it builds the permanent ultimate
grade separation at that cross
street.
So if we're flipping the stack,
this project flips the stack.
If we're not, and we're just
widening it to the ultimate width
for the freeway, it does that.
So it's more than just frontage
roads.
Frontage roads and the cross
streets.
So we finally got it funded,
which is usually the case.
Still got to work through
right-of-way and utilities.
So your U.S. 380 section across
the lake.
We continue to work with the
district to stay in the area
office to stay on top of what's
going on out there.
They are going to be shifting
the phasing for part of the road
from basically the lake back to
the city early.
And that will help them catch up
on their completion date.
Right now it says November 23,
but if you read in here, we are
working on getting a recovery
schedule.
The recovery schedule has been
submitted and reviewed.
So we are working to maintain and
expedite this project to its
original contract date of
November.
Frontage roads.
We continue on the design on
this project, the right-of-ways
being acquired.
And this is one of the other
projects, and I guess this is as
good a time as any.
The way we are getting some of
these projects funded is that,
like I said, Austin and Houston
are being sued.
They are suing TxDOT.
And they met with Houston about
six months ago.
And not only do they have that
$9 billion project that's on the
bubble now.
They've got about $2 billion worth
of real roads that are in their
four-year plan, which is the
STIP, State Transportation
Improvement Program, that they're
not going to be able to get to in
the '23 and '24 fiscal year
timeframe.
And so what the commission has
directed staff to do is to not
defund those projects in the
Harris District or the Houston
District, but to move them out of
the STIP, which means they
wouldn't be in these first four
years.
They'd be moved out to year nine
or six or whatever.
Those dollars in those '23 and
'24 fiscal years still need
projects.
And so they are directing the
districts, other districts, to
be ready to submit candidate
projects for those dollars.
And the criteria has to be that
they have to be able to be let
go and constructed in that '23,
'24 timeframe.
And so what's driving the boat
on the loop is the utilities
because of those transmission
lines and all those gas wells
out there.
And so TechStat Dallas is
looking at to see if there's
any way they can expedite at
least some portion of 288, so
whether it be the northern half,
because if we can get the
northwest quadrant under
construction, then it'll allow
the city to come back and
consider having a no truck route
through the heart of Denton and
making them go up and around
380 to go past your core for
pass-through vehicles.
O&D are still eligible to come
in town, but those that are just
on the Texas trunk system would
have to go up and around to
bypass the city.
So there's activity that's going
to be going on with this project
over the next 18 months.
Some of what we were doing with
the frontage roads just a minute
ago.
>> Question, Madam Chair.
>> Yes.
>> So John, let me make sure I
understood what you just said.
So it's possible that if we are
far enough along that some of
that funding that I think you
call them the STIP or STIF or
whatever it was --
>> STIP.
>> -- STIP is allocated.
This could be a project that --
and that means it would have to
be -- did you say constructed
and completed?
>> No, it has to be able to be
start in those two fiscal years.
>> Okay.
>> So that's a tight -- 23 would
be tight for us, but 24 we may
be able to do.
>> Sure.
>> Because although it's got a
ready to let of April of '26,
you'll look that we're putting
significant time allocations in
there for right-of-way and
utility relocations.
And the right-of-way acquisition
is going faster than the --
than what they anticipated
because they've already -- it
says all parcels are in
appraisal, but we were also
told after we had this report
done that they've made --
they've got parcel offers out
already on some -- so those
appraisals are done and the
offers are being made.
So this is a candidate for --
>> Good.
>> -- chasing those dollars.
There will be several of them
here.
>> I have a question.
You say it has to be started.
Is it started or does start mean
shovels in the ground?
>> So it has to be -- have a
ready to let so they can go to
construction in those two fiscal
years, and that's September to
August of those fiscal years,
'23 and '24.
So everything we're doing on
this list where it says right-of-way,
utilities, environmental, all
those have to be done, and that
ready to let date, we'd have to
shave off some time on it, but we
think we can do that, especially
if we decide that we can't do
the whole project, we're going
to focus on that northwest
quadrant so that we can get that
truck route rerouted.
>> I have another question.
Sorry.
Lots of questions.
So my question is about the
interchange at 35W and future
loop 288.
Is that going to be like a grade
separated interchange where 288
becomes vintage, or is it going
to be like there's an on ramp
onto 35?
>> Excellent question.
So it will have direct connects
from 35W to 288, and from loop
288 to 35W, but there will not
be any large structures that ties
vintage into the freeway with
those direct connects, because
the intent was we don't want to
be driving 70 mile an hour
vehicles down vintage.
So vintage, if you want to get
onto the freeway vintage, you'll
do it just like you're doing now.
You come up to a signal, get on
the frontage road, you go to your
next on ramp.
If you want to go south, you'll
cross, get on the next on ramp.
So there's no easy way to get
from the loop to vintage.
You'll have to get off the main
lanes, drop onto the frontage
road, stop at the signal at the
interstate, cross the interstate,
and then go down vintage.
>> Good, good, good.
I was starting to get a little
bit worried about people flying
down 288.
>> We anticipated that.
>> Right down vintage, yeah.
>> Loop 288 east, yesterday, I
think today's Wednesday, yes.
Ditton County Commissioner's
Court hired Pacheco Cope to
begin the environmental work.
So we'll probably by our next
meeting have an actual schedule
that we can start proposing to
keep, and this is to add frontage
roads and a grade separation at
King's, I think, King's Road.
>> King's Road.
And then it'll have a tie-in.
We're showing that green line
here, but nobody that's in this
quadrant freak out because we
don't really know what we're
doing.
What we're doing is we've got
to have a better connection from
the loop and through 380 than
the box that's there now.
So we'll figure that out as we
move forward.
1515 is one of those projects
that we're saying is also
eligible for that '23-'24
fiscal year roundup because we
are already in October of '24,
and that's just one month
outside of that fiscal year for
'23, so we're definitely chasing
those dollars for FM 1515, and
that's a -- that's a $38 million
job, and we have 500,000, so
we're almost there.
What could happen?
1173 is another one of those
projects, and as a matter of
fact, what we're being told is
if -- half associates -- we just
got them on contract a few months
ago, so it's really not their
fault, but we are looking at
trying to get plans adequate by,
I think, December -- I can't
remember what they said.
I think it was December, and if
we can get the plans adequate by
December, the Dallas district
wants to include FM 1173 as part
of the big 35 job because we're
building the connection for the
future 1173 at Barthold Road
anyway, and it'll help us clean
up this whole area if we can go
ahead and get that done as part
of the 35 job.
So this is another one of those
ones that we're -- we're on the
bubble on.
>> So is the plan to make a
grade separation there at that
77 Barthold Road?
>> It's already in the 35
project, so we're moving the
77 -- 1173 intersection to that
77 where the truck stop is.
That's where the grade
separation is going to be.
That old 1173 will not cross the
railroad track there.
It'll be dead-ended, and we'll
have to figure out what we're
going to do with that section of
the road.
Elm and Locus.
Okay, so since we last met,
Travis and Becky are working
getting closer to the -- what
they think the full payment
design needs to be based on the
information they're getting out
of the -- Austin from the ESL
study.
But if you were looking at the
bond program workshops, you'll
note that half of the county's
14 million is in that bond
program, specifically spelled
out, and the intent is to --
there are some projects that we
think that are in the bond
program that will get funded by
the state, and we'll have money
to move to the remaining part of
this project so that whenever we
need the $21 million to do,
Elm and Locus will have it just
in time delivery.
You see the resurfacings are
going on.
There was a little bit of
trouble early on because the
heat was so hot that the asphalt
was peeling up and had to go
back and recalculate the
formula, and it's my
understanding that they are
doing that, and they should be
done by November with all the
resurfacing, and --
>> Was that -- sorry, Madam
Chair, question.
>> Yes.
>> Was that -- when was that
completed?
Originally.
What, four or five years ago?
>> Oh, well, so when Buzz
started in TechStat as an
intern, they were building 35,
and they haven't stopped since.
But the last one was -- we
started 12, so I think it was
what, 16, 17, 18?
>> So -- and that was my
question.
So the pavement -- so you're
saying the formula was
miscalculated originally?
>> No, no.
On this resurfacing, the --
when they got the contract and
started doing the resurfacing,
we were only in the '90s and
whatever, but as they went into
the full-on summer, the
temperature got to where they
had to change the formula.
They had to go back to the
factory -- or not factory, but
the mixing plant to change their
formula.
So they stopped for about a
month to get that recalibrated.
But the AGL contract that
TechStat did to do the interim
improvements that were done
four or five years ago did not
include any overlay or any
improvement to surface ride.
They were trying to save money,
right?
So now we're coming back and
trying to --
this was that -- okay, now I've
got you.
I'm just mixing up my projects.
>> Yeah.
So this is to get you a somewhat
rideable surface, and AGL moved
the striping so much, they were
using temporary striping.
And as you all can tell, if
you're driving at certain times
of the day, you can't even --
you're not really sure what
stripes you're supposed to
follow, the ones they erased or
the ones that you can't see.
So they're coming back with a
striping tool.
>> That's all I have, Madam
Chair.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know.
Am I supposed to get out of
this?
>> Thank you very much.
We appreciate the updates.
>> Thank you.
>> Do I have any additional
questions, comments, or
concerns about anything in that
area?
All right.
If there's not any other
questions or comments or
concerns, we will move --
>> Sorry, I do, because I thought
I said I was going to say I was
going to say I was going to say
I was going to -- sorry, I do,
because I thought -- sorry, I
found an acronym that I thought
I was going to look up and then
it wasn't in our glossary here.
ESAL, area office is awaiting
delivery of ESAL from Tex.Austin
to prepare.
>> You're going to have to walk
back to the mic.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Sorry, because I know that
last month we were talking about
pavement design plans for Elm
and Locust.
I want to make sure I understand
what the update is here.
>> So basically there are
engineers that do certain types
of things, traffic engineering.
There are certain guys that do
pavement design based on traffic
that's going to drive it and
soil conditions.
That's generally what it is.
I'll have to get you the actual
verbiage on what that means, but
it's basically pavement design.
>> Okay.
So we are anticipating an
agreement on pavement design this
month.
Cool.
Thanks.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
We'll move on to MC-22023 staff
report.
Bonnie Bray Street update.
Citywide speed study update.
Future items for mobility
committee meeting for 2022.
>> All righty.
So just a couple of really quick
updates.
These are standard updates we're
going to be doing every month.
Just wanted to bring you up to
date with Bonnie Bray Street.
We're going to be talking about
really from between 35 and
scripture, which we call 4B.
So 4B specifically, as you're
aware, we're putting in an
overlay in that area.
And we anticipate that to be
complete here just in the next
few weeks.
So mid-September.
It's just a temporary driving
surface.
It's not obviously the
permanent condition, but this is
just to help us through that
process until we actually start
as a part of the county bond
program to receive that
additional funding as long as
that passes in November to
actually do the permanent
improvements, which is a
four-lane divided roadway in
this section.
>> Quick question, Madam Chair.
On that, because I drive that
almost daily because it's on
the route home, on the new
pavement that was done just
recently, there's already
beginning to be kind of dips
and things like that in it.
So, I mean, are we -- because I
know they're grinding up the
old surface and trying to do a
fairly decent preparation of the
roadbed.
Is that -- I mean, who's -- do
we have any type of warranty
work on that temporary surface?
Or it just -- I mean, because
what was done is just smooth as
glass, and now you can already
begin to see some of the
settlements and the dips.
So how do we deal with that?
Or is it just -- that's just the
way it is?
>> Well, a couple things.
One, the project hadn't been
accepted yet.
So if there are specific areas
that we're already seeing
concerns, that will be some
things that we want to work
through.
>> Okay.
>> And then, two, I would say
that our ultimate goal, because
of the thickness, it's really
just a two-inch overlay.
And the goal for that is to be
a riding surface that is
-- was more amenable than the
existing condition with the
patches.
>> Well, of course, anything
would be.
>> And so it's to buy time
until we have the opportunity
to actually start the
construction.
Because ultimately, I really
didn't want to have a surface
out there that was some of the
conditions we see, and I'll use
the example of Elm and Locust as
we're working through the
process.
>> Sure.
>> But if there are specific
areas, and obviously I'll bring
that to the inspectors' attention
and work through that.
But if there are specific areas
that we're seeing some type of
failure, we will see some of
that just because of the type of
construction.
But if there's something that we
can improve before we accept it,
we want to do that.
>> Okay.
All right.
Good.
Thank you.
>> And then on Bonneberry Phase
3, which is actually Rose Lawn
Drive to 35, and then Bonneberry
Phase 6, which is US 380 to 77,
those are both on track to
begin construction by the end of
the year.
They both have an approximate
two-year timeline.
And I will tell you that on
Bonneberry Phase 6, we have not
acquired all the right-of-way.
We have one parcel that's still
remaining, which has been
remaining for a number of
months.
But we've made the decision to
move forward with bidding that
project and being very specific
with the contractor as to what
areas he can work in and cannot
simply because we want to get
that project underway.
And so similarly on Phase 3, our
goal is to have both of those
out to bid and by the end of the
year.
So then depending on bidding
process, et cetera, timeline, we
will work to, you know, really
have those completed by the end
of 2024 is the goal.
>> Quick question, Madam Chair.
>> Sure.
>> On the parcel that's left.
>> Yes, sir.
>> What stage are we -- have we
-- has that come to -- I don't
guess -- has it come to
council frame?
The domain has it?
>> So in the very beginning,
similar to like you saw last
night on 35, we went through the
process to show you different
parcels that we thought we would
need to go to eminent domain on.
I'll have to confirm that that
section of Bonnie Bray did come
through the process.
My recollection is, yes, it did,
and it's been some time ago,
probably close to almost two
years ago.
But this one particular parcel
has a right-of-way reservation,
not dedication on their plat.
And so that's what we're
actually working through.
>> So it's not -- it's
different?
>> It's a little bit different.
>> Okay.
>> And it's actually something
that's been constructed within
the last five years.
>> Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
>> Absolutely.
So we're working through that.
But the good news story is that
both of those are going to be
getting to construction by the
end of the year and then
starting with getting those
taken care of.
So, you know, ultimately our
goal is to not only get three
and six under construction
and completed by the end of
quarter four, but then also
through the Denton County bond
package, which I know y'all have
seen information we've been
providing on that, we did submit
for Bonnie Bray what we call 4B,
which is from Scripture to 35
and then 5, which is from
Scripture to 380 as a part of
the county bond package, and
both of those have made the cut.
So we're very excited about that.
So then from there, we hope to
have all the way from Rose Lawn
to 77 completed, which not just
is that a roadway project,
understand, it's a water, a
sewer.
In many cases, some of the
infrastructure has already been
completed.
It also will include sidewalks
or side paths.
There will be new intersection
improvements with
signalization at several of the
locations, specifically on
Bonnie Bray Phase 6, like at
Windsor, Bronco Way, Riney Road
intersection, and then, of
course, at 77 we'll be changing
kind of that configuration on
Bonnie Bray.
So you'll see that throughout
the project itself.
Any other questions on
Bonnie Bray?
>> I have a question.
So I'm really glad to hear that
there's kind of a sense of
urgency and that I know that
it's a little bit of a risk to
keep moving forward, even though
right-of-way acquisition isn't
100% complete, but I appreciate
that y'all are trying to move
as quickly as you can.
Can you give us an update?
You know, I know we heard a
little bit in a Friday report
about some temporary pedestrian
improvements in the Bonnie Bray
Phase 6 area.
Can you tell us a little bit
more about what the temporary
solutions are and then what the
permanent solutions are going to
be?
>> Sure.
So the temporary solutions are
what you see on the ground
today.
Improvements were made at the
intersection of Bonnie Bray and
Windsor to actually re-stripe
the crosswalks in that area and
add some additional
notification, warning,
advancement on the stop signs at
that location.
And then there is existing
sidewalk all the way along the
eastern side of Bonnie Bray.
And then at the intersection of
Rainey Road, Bronco Way, a
four-way stop, all-way stop
condition was installed along
with advanced warning
information on the stop signs so
that you can see that, along
with some additional ramps in
that area, and then, of course,
a crosswalk.
And I will tell you I'm very
proud of the team.
That all came together very
quickly.
And you're looking at one of the
individuals in the room, Mr.
Andrews, who made a lot of that
happen, along with Mr. Pedigo,
who worked with one of our
contractors to make sure that
there was a safe passageway for
children to walk to school
across Bonnie Bray at Windsor,
all the way north up Bonnie
Bray, and then, of course, to
cross the street again to get to
Bronco Way.
So those temporary
improvements have all been
constructed.
We're still evaluating if
there's anything additional that
we feel like needs to happen.
There also has been the
school zone installation that
you passed last night at council
that resolution on, and that's
not only along Bronco Way, but
that's also along Bonnie Bray
itself.
We'll continue to have
additional conversations with
the school district.
We meet with them monthly.
And then, of course, we have our
joint meeting with them on the
30th, where we'll be talking
about, I'm sure, many items.
And we have a presentation
prepared to talk through a lot
of those.
Permanent condition was really
what we showed in the Friday
report, which will be two lanes
in each direction.
There will be a median.
There will be some left and
right turn lanes, signalization
at Bonnie Bray and Windsor,
Bronco Way and Riney Road, and
then also signalization at 77
and Bonnie Bray.
And also, there will be a 10-foot
side path that will be along the
entire eastern boundary of that
project.
And then on the western boundary
of the project, there will be a
6 to 8-foot.
It varies in some locations due
to the right-of-way takes in
those areas.
So that's the permanent condition
for Bonnie Bray.
>> Okay, excellent.
And we should expect the
signalization and the new side
path on the west to be done by
the end of 2024?
>> Yes, ma'am.
That's all a part of the project.
And the side path will actually
be on the eastern side.
There will be a sidewalk on the
western side.
>> Oh, yes.
Excuse me.
>> No, you're fine.
I just wanted to make sure.
So very excited about getting
that started.
It is a little bit risky to
take, but at this point, I'm
willing to take the risk so that
we can get the project moving
forward.
>> I have a question about
medians.
>> Sure.
>> I know that we had a bit of
a discussion, a little bit of
a discussion about the
conservation of water and
impact of planting trees and
medians.
Tell us a little bit about how
that will work along the Bonnie
Bray and really your thoughts on
how that works all over the city.
Are we going to start adding
that particular conversation in
the mobility packets?
>> So I'm not aware of the
conversation that you're
referring to, but let me give
you some general speak.
So on Bonnie Bray itself, we
will work with the parks
department as to whether there
will be pavers or whether that
will actually be a grass median,
whether there will be
installation of any type of
trees.
With trees comes irrigation such
as drip lines, et cetera.
So those will all be parts of
the project depending on which
route we go.
So there's many different
opportunities.
There are opportunities where
sometimes there's actually like
a brick type paver looking.
It's actually concrete.
It's just stamped in some of
those areas.
Some of those decisions are
financial decisions the city
has to make.
And then also the maintenance.
So keep in mind that anything
that we install within a city
right away has to be maintained
by our parks department or
either through a contract.
So those are decisions that we
will work through with the parks
department.
And as far as Bonnie Bray phase
six, I'm happy to -- or even
phase three, I'm happy to bring
that back in the next update.
I am not aware with what the
final decision are either on
one of those projects.
So that's a great question, and
I'll have to bring that back to
you.
>> I just have always
personally have been concerned
about adding trees to medians
because of the requirement to
keep them alive.
>> Sure.
>> And we know that we are
talking about water conservation
all over the country right now.
>> Absolutely.
>> And for us to do our part in
making sure that we're zero
scaping, is that the word?
>> Absolutely.
Zero scaping.
You know, as appropriate.
And we could be a city that
could be in front of all of
that.
So if we choose to be.
>> Absolutely.
I appreciate that comment.
I would also say that one of the
things that comes to my mind is
from a safety perspective,
wanting to make sure there's a
clear line of sight if trees are
installed.
Sometimes they do, you know,
cause that issue.
But there are things that can be
done from a design perspective.
So, you know, that's where the
irrigation appropriate, you know,
measures have to be made.
Even concrete, you know, will
have to be maintained at some
level.
Especially if there happens to be
an accident.
Sometimes those have to be
replaced, et cetera.
But I apologize.
I don't know the answer to how
we're handling either one of
those projects.
I haven't thought to that level
of detail.
But I will definitely bring that
back at the next report.
>> All right.
Thank you.
>> Absolutely.
>> If I can add to that, just
kind of a slightly different
perspective, and I know that
this isn't exactly your purview,
but maybe you can work this into
your conversations that, you
know, yeah, we are continuing a
conversation about water
conservation.
I would be cautious about
applying that conversation to
trees.
Trees tend to be not quite as
water intensive as, for example,
turf and grass.
And trees have so many other
benefits that turf and grass
don't have as far as carbon
sequestration and dealing with
heat deserts, right?
I mean, if you're walking down
the street on a roadway that has
no trees versus a roadway that
is tree lined, that's -- it's a
lot more manageable if there are
trees.
So I hear you and I'm also
concerned about water
conservation.
I would rather see us address
that by reducing the amount of
turf rather than the number of
trees.
>> Okay.
>> Me personally.
>> No, that makes sense.
And you are absolutely correct.
It's more of a landscape
architect type conversation.
And so those are things that we
put as a part of these projects
and work through that with the
Parks Department.
So we can bring back
specifically what's going to
happen and what's planned for
Bonneberry Phase 3 and Phase 6.
So then the last thing is
really not much different than
the update that you saw last
month on the citywide speed
study.
I think you're all aware that
we're coming to you on
September 27th to counsel for
that overall update.
Nathan has been working through
some internal reviews with our
team.
We're also meeting with the
city manager's office to go
through the presentations and
the updates.
I do want to keep in mind that
there's going to be certain
parameters that our team's not
going to be able to evaluate,
such as tech stock roadways.
There's a whole different
procedure that works through
speed limits from tech stock
roadway perspective.
And Nathan will go into a lot
greater detail on that during
his presentation.
And we'll also work through
school zones.
There's some cleanup that we'd
like to do between what is
allowed in school zone ordinances
that we currently have versus
what's actually the ordinances
for the actual speeds on the
roadways.
And so we'll work through that
and it'll be categorized into
different topics and it'll help
narrow down what the true focus
of the citywide speed study is.
So we're really looking forward
to having that conversation
with all of you.
And I don't know that there's
anything really to add to that,
but just been an ongoing process.
And I will tell you, just to add,
I guess one other thing is we do
meet monthly with our police
department, with our traffic
division officers.
And we had a conversation with
them actually last week
specifically related to some of
the data.
And I think Nathan's done a
really good job with the study
that's been produced that will
be presented to you to show
where a lot of the crashes are
actually happening.
And I think it'll be eye-opening
to see.
It probably won't be anything
that you didn't already figure
out, but a lot of that is
happening along Tech Start
roadways such as I-35.
So we can work through that with
you and very excited about
having that as another item that
we'll have checked off the list
as we work through that process.
So any additional questions on
that?
>> Any additional questions?
>> So the last item is any
future agenda item.
So is there anything that the
committee would like for our
team to bring forward?
I know these two are the
standard items that we're going
to continue to bring forward,
but anything else that you would
like to see that we bring
forward and discuss with you?
>> Did you want to go first?
>> Yes, please, if it's okay.
So I like getting the weekly
update on Bonnie Bray.
Would you be willing to add
Hickory Creek and Ryan Road to
that kind of update?
Obviously, Ryan Road is probably
going to be a lot of -- it's not
going to be ready to let until
whenever it's going to be ready.
But if we could just kind of get
a standing update on that.
>> Sure.
>> It's just a one sentence.
>> So let me just verify that I'm
understanding you correctly.
Would you like it to be something
that we're bringing to the
mobility committee or are you
asking for that to be in the
Friday report?
>> Oh, I -- probably Friday
report would be easier, I guess.
>> Either way.
We take the same information.
>> You want it weekly?
>> I don't think I need it
weekly.
>> Okay.
Well, if you're not needing it
weekly, then what I would suggest
is we just make it another agenda
item that we bring forward the
update similar to how we're
doing.
They're simple for us to update.
I will tell you Ryan Road is
probably not going to change a
whole lot because that project is
not going to be completed for a
couple of years because we're
obviously going to wait for phase
three of Hickory Creek Road to
be at a very final form.
But we can update you.
And that did make the Denton
County bond list also.
>> Awesome.
Yeah.
The Ryan Road thing, I know that
the dates have been kind of
moving around and like last time
I got an update on it.
I think the dates have changed
since the last time I got an
update on it.
So could you just kind of give
us an update on what the new
timeline is, I guess.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
>> That's what I'm hoping for.
>> We can do that.
That's not a problem.
And keep in mind those dates
are going to shift as Hickory
Creek phase three shifts.
So -- and then I guess on
Hickory Creek Road, are you
specifically just asking about
phase three?
Phase two is finishing up
construction.
So just curious if you want both
phases or just phase three?
>> I just like, I guess, updates
on the timeline of whatever's
coming up next.
>> Okay.
That's no problem.
Very similar to what we do for
bond committee.
So we are good with that.
>> Well, the Hickory Creek --
Hickory Creek is easy to find on
the website.
So I guess, Ryan, what are you
going to do with that?
>> I'm going to update the
timeline.
I'm going to update the
timeline.
>> I'm going to update the
timeline.
>> I'm going to update the
timeline.
So I guess Ryan Road is not on
the website currently.
>> Sure.
And I will add that if that's
something that we can add to
Disgust Denton to help with that
message, too, we're happy to do
so also.
>> Actually, maybe that's what
I'd rather have.
If you could just add Ryan Road
to just the website, just
Improving Denton and --
>> That's simple.
>> Because you have really good,
really clear timelines for
Hickory Creek on Improving
Denton.
And I'd just like to see that
same thing for Ryan Road,
really.
>> Ryan Road is on Disgust
Denton.
>> Okay.
>> Sorry.
>> Well, how about this?
We're going to verify that the
projects that are the high-profile
projects that we're working on
that are the roadways that are
coming through town will confirm
that all of those are on Disgust
Denton, that the information is
the most updated, as we just made
an update for the bond committee
that we'll be presenting on
Friday.
And then if there's any
additional information that you
want to share with us, we'll
be happy to do so.
>> Okay.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay.
Well, we're going to have the
meeting on Friday.
And then if there's any
additional questions, we can
always bring that back.
And we'll just continue down the
path of bringing Bonnie Bray and
Citywide Speed Study.
And then next month we'll have a
conversation to discuss the
median improvements on Bonnie
Bray 3 and 6.
>> Sorry.
I'm not seeing Ryan Road, but
maybe I'm looking in the wrong
place.
>> Okay.
Well, we can show you after the
meeting.
Maybe this is just a me issue.
>> It's okay.
There's no problem.
We'll walk through it.
And if Logan has found the
location, then we can show you
that directly after the meeting.
>> Councilmember Watts, did you
have any additional comments?
>> Okay.
Well, my question is going to be
in regards to the bond package.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> And I've heard you mention
that a couple of times.
Will it be out of order for me
to ask for you all to add that
to the list of conversations
that we have on a monthly basis
as to what roads in, you know,
at some point in the next 15,
20 years to, you know, keep us
up with what's happening as far
as the bond package is
concerned?
>> Sure.
No problem.
We did provide an update in the
most recent Friday report, but
I'm happy to bring that forward.
It'll be very similar as it'll
kind of be standstill until the
November election, but we can at
least provide you a summary of
which projects made the list,
what we're moving forward.
So happy to do so.
Just did similar for the bond
committee, so that's no issue at
all, and we can bring that up as
an additional item.
>> Okay.
And as far as I'm concerned,
that's the only things that I
have.
Either you all have any last
minute considerations.
Thank you.
>> Absolutely.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> So we have concluding items.
Anyone has a concluding item they
want to add?
Share.
All right.
So if there's no concluding items,
then we will conclude this meeting
at 10.01.
Thank you.
>> Absolutely.
Happy to help.
>> Okay.