1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,320 All right so at this time I will call at 11 38 a.m. Wednesday August 10th the 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Economic Development Partnership Board meeting. We will begin with items for 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:26,000 consideration under heading 1 subsection A EDP 22-050 which is consider 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:33,680 approval of the minutes of July 20th 2022. That was attached as Exhibit 2 and 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,240 sent out to the board prior to today's meeting. At this time I will entertain a motion to 6 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:45,880 approve the minutes as distributed. All right it's been moved and seconded at 7 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,560 this point. Is there any discussion or suggested edits to the minutes of the 8 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:58,120 July 20th 2022 meeting minutes. Hearing none I will call the vote. All those in favor 9 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,600 please signify by saying aye. All those opposed please signify by saying nay. 10 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:09,240 And the motion carries unanimously congratulations minutes. Going down to 11 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,520 section B EDP 22-051 receive a report for discussion and make a 12 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,280 recommendation to the City Council regarding an amendment to the Economic 13 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Development Partnership Board ordinance. That included three exhibits that went 14 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,920 out with the pre-meeting packet including a draft red line of the EDP 15 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,800 ordinance changes. This is something that's been discussed for quite some 16 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,880 time. I think everyone's aware of this coming down the pipeline to make things 17 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,840 easier but we will go ahead and let the change be presented for discussion. Thank 18 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:52,920 you. Thank you for that. So without further ado we'll get started. 19 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:19,080 It's working out okay. All right so what's our objective today's we want to 20 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,040 provide the recommended Economic Development Partnership Board ordinance 21 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:32,800 changes regarding the the chamber the DIT and chambers representation. So the 22 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Economic Development Partnership Board was created in 2003. As hopefully most of 23 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,360 you know you this is an advisory board that's in charge of implementing our 24 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:51,120 economic development strategies, policy guidance, making recommendations to the 25 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,840 City Council and chamber and reviewing any prospect perspective and Senate 26 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:03,640 packages and also of course making those recommendations to City Council. The 27 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:09,920 current structure of the EDP board is two City Council members, two chamber 28 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:19,040 board members, two top 20 taxpayers, the UNT and TWU presidents, one member with 29 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,760 aviation experience, one member of the Denton Black Chamber and one member of 30 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:31,720 the Denton Hispanic Chamber and then lastly one at-large. So this current I 31 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,160 guess configuration of the board came about in 2017 when there was a new 32 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:43,640 ordinance passed which is which essentially added these bottom positions 33 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:51,480 with the black chamber and Hispanic. So what are the recommended changes so we 34 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,980 can look here and look at the original language and then the language that we 35 00:03:56,980 --> 00:04:01,800 are recommending that we add is we say two members will be nominated by the 36 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Denton Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors and those members must reside 37 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,480 or work within the City of Denton and so I think the real substance of change 38 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,040 that we're seeing here is that currently the members from the Chamber of 39 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Commerce from the City of Denton have to be sitting board members so that's 40 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:28,760 really the substantial change that we're here to talk about. And I'm happy to add 41 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:34,560 just if there's any clarification needed currently the other two chambers don't 42 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,600 have the requirement that it be a voting board position. The Denton Chamber of 43 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,720 Commerce for whatever reason in the ordinance it has to be two current 44 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,720 sitting board members. The terms are different as far as how long someone can 45 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,720 sit on the Denton Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors than necessarily this 46 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,920 board. What we don't want to do is hamper the continuity and 47 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,620 institutional knowledge of saying hey we have to leave this board if we are no 48 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:04,160 longer serving on the Denton Chamber of Commerce Board. Also the Denton Chamber 49 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,960 of Commerce is limited in how many seats per our bylaws that we can give and as 50 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:15,160 we push more with our DEI committee and are trying to be more diverse in all 51 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,760 ways as far as this big business small business it really hampers our ability 52 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:27,120 to bring in new perspectives and new people to carry the load of the Denton 53 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Chamber of Commerce. So it's been discussed for quite some time and I'm 54 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,640 glad to have the opportunity now to explain that and to say that we would 55 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:40,400 like on behalf of the chamber for the chamber to have the conduits here to the 56 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,280 EDT board just as the Black Chamber of Commerce and the Hispanic Chamber of 57 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:50,000 Commerce have. But they do not have to take one of the board seats which are 58 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:59,200 hard to come by. Is there a motion or discussion or question? Yes Mr. Boyd. 59 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:12,240 On the recommendation that's going to be struck I see that the current such 60 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,040 member must reside or work in the city of Denton. When you say member is member 61 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:25,840 the organization a member that person is selected. But with the city of Denton how 62 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:32,280 many people actually live within the city limits? So you're saying if a person 63 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:37,120 doesn't live within the city drawn limit, an accounting limit, a DISD limit they 64 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,080 are not eligible to serve on this board? These would just be representatives from 65 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,680 the Denton Chamber of Commerce. That's the same these are the same 66 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,040 wordings in with the Black Chamber members as well. It must be reside or live in the city. 67 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,000 It's work or live. So that member must work or live or the other Denton 68 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Black Chamber address must be in the city. I don't know I don't have the 69 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,200 language. You don't have that many members in the Black Chamber that actually live within the 70 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:18,280 tax city limits of Denton. Corent, Lulham we have members like that but not in the 71 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,560 city. I don't think I think there's one thing this the only one we're updating 72 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,760 is for the the the overall chamber. Right. The other two policies are staying the 73 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,960 same. We're not updating those am I correct? That's correct. Well I'm saying 74 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:41,240 that's when regulation in this ordinance that the Black Chamber members and his 75 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Senate chamber member must reside in the city. Or work. Or work. Must reside or work in the 76 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:56,760 city of Denton. This being a city of... That member or you say that member? Yes 77 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,120 according to the ordinance. I'm not arguing it away I'm just saying that's 78 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,640 how it's worded. That they reside or work. Whoever is appointed on this board 79 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,800 needs to either reside or work in the city of Denton in order to be talking 80 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,920 about the city of Denton's actions. If that's the case I need to submit my 81 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:23,360 resolution today because I don't live in the city of Denton. I live 10 yards in 82 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Corent. So according to this I shouldn't be on this board as of today. Do you work 83 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:45,000 here? No I don't. You volunteer somewhere. We'll consider that work. No but you're right I'm just talking. Assume assumptions you know. I get a little confused with assumptions. That will probably have to be 84 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,320 something that one of the city attorney addresses that's not something that's 85 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:54,960 under my purview. Councilmember Davis. Yeah. One of the reasons why I like the 86 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,100 change of discussion today is because it mirrors what's already in place for the 87 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:02,800 other two chambers. Does the other two chambers have the requirement you're 88 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,920 talking about? The member has to reside or work in the city. That's the only 89 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:15,160 qualification that's currently on the other two chambers. So this language 90 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,920 would be duplicating that. It's not changing it. That's what's already in 91 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:28,000 place. It's mirroring it and copying it for Denton Chamber if that makes sense. So I 92 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,600 don't think what's proposed is any change to the black chamber and Hispanic 93 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:39,160 chamber but the same broader requirement on the Denton Chamber if that makes 94 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:47,440 sense. Why does he have to live in the city? And back to my point I need to 95 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,840 then excuse myself. Well so that's so outside of this order for what's already 96 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,960 in place is an issue that you're talking about. So what's the current policies in 97 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,000 place? Maybe we need to because we do want retired people because that's a lot 98 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,880 of wisdom for our city. We need to address that somewhere in our policies 99 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:11,880 because work or have worked or retired we need to add that wording from our 100 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,400 policy. That's actually a very good point. For this specific issue we're 101 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,400 lining it up so all three chambers are the same. But for our policy I think we 102 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,120 should put on our notes to maybe come back around and check that. Can we take 103 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,720 a recess for five minutes? Is that meaningful to everyone? Are there any 104 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,440 objections to a quick recess? And not to be adversarial but for this item or for what he's 105 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:45,280 talking about? I need to discuss something with staff and with the chair. I will say I think that Mr. Gore your point is 106 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,160 heard and that is something that you know can be addressed. It's not something 107 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,120 that can be voted on today because it has to be published in the agenda so much 108 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,560 ahead of time etc. I think it's part of the conversation that's something that 109 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:58,760 can be continued and I don't know if that has to do with the break that we 110 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,760 need but I know that we can't vote on that change today. It's just part of a 111 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,960 conversation that we're having regarding the proposed change. Is that right? 112 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Councilmember Davis? I agree with that and then just one thing I'd like to kind of put 113 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,000 on the record before we take a break is the language and the ordinance regarding 114 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,320 qualification and nomination and appointment. If these organizations 115 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:26,080 nominate a person, the City Council approves and appoints that person and the 116 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,920 ordinance says that person shall serve at the City Council's pleasure. So which 117 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,760 is common language right? So I think questions of qualification and who's to 118 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,000 be on the board and who's not to be on the board are to be determined by the 119 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 City Council. Now could somebody else bring something else up later on about 120 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,480 that? Sure, but I think the ultimate decision about does someone meet the 121 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,760 qualification in the ordinance is the council when they appoint, when they 122 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:00,320 accept the nomination from the organization to appoint them. I just want to put 123 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,280 that on the recording on the record. I think that maybe what we can do is 124 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,560 request that be added to the next agenda that it be researched and looked into as 125 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:13,520 far as where the requirement comes from if that's a requirement for all city 126 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,720 boards. Is that a requirement just for this board and what kind of leeway the 127 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,600 City Council has for the appointments? Does that sound acceptable to the City 128 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Attorney representative and the rest Mr. Gorey and the rest of the board? 129 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Right now it is 1150. We will reconvene at 1155 for a short break. Thank you 130 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:55,000 everyone for your patience. Thank you everyone for your time. I certainly appreciate everyone and 131 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,920 everyone's transparency and input. At this time we are going to conclude 132 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:05,720 today's meeting because of the advice of the City Deputy Attorney that we may have 133 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,440 lost form. This is something that's going to be further researched and looked into 134 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,200 by the City Attorney's office today and as soon as there's a determination or 135 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,360 suggestion of change or what have you we will let everyone know as soon as 136 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,040 possible but because of the Open Meetings Act, because of other regulations 137 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:30,240 that this work could run afoul of, it is on the City Attorney's office advice that we 138 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:36,200 conclude today's meeting. I would ask that Councilmember Davis and Mayor Huxford would 139 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,800 you mind staying just for five minutes for a quick conversation regarding this 140 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:50,840 matter, the potential vote that didn't happen on the change of the order. It's not on the matter of who was in the board. 141 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Can I speak before we conclude the meeting just so I can have it on the 142 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,120 record? Yes, now I don't think we have reforms, I don't think actually we have a meeting, but you can 143 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:10,840 certainly speak to us. You can read my mind, but you've dealt with me enough. I'll talk to Mac more 144 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:20,920 succinctly, but here we sit in a city where the charter is being challenged at 145 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,760 every turn and we move forward, where the legal rights of officers are being 146 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,680 challenged at every turn and yet we move forward. And in this advisory body we 147 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:41,240 conclude because of a failure to nail down a detail, a miniscule detail, 148 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,800 because if you want to drill down, if someone has a complete definition of 149 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,720 work, because I know he's in the insurance business, so if he's getting 150 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,000 residual from someone indenting and he checks on that, is that work? We don't 151 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,320 have a fine definition of work. And so if we're gonna get down to this level of 152 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,600 detail for an advisory committee meeting, then I expect the same shutdown at every 153 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,120 level of this city and I will make that abundantly clear in the legal department. 154 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,980 I want them to have the same approach everywhere, where not to be 155 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:19,120 inconveniencing citizens for something that I think is absolutely miniscule. 156 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Quite taken. Thank you. And with that we are concluded for today. Thank you.