1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,700 Okay, it is nine o'clock and we do have a quorum so call to order the Public Utility Board meeting for the City of Denton on Monday, June 27th. 2 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:16,160 The first item on the agenda is presentations from members of the public. Does anyone from the public wish to speak? 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:25,440 Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda. Does any board member wish to pull an item from A through D? 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:35,180 Yes, Ben, go ahead. Item A. Any others? All right, do we have a motion to approve Items B, C, and D? 5 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:44,440 Mr. Beck is moving. Second. Mr. Redbeck seconding. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Item A. 6 00:00:44,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Do we have someone to cover Item A? Hi, I can try. Larry Hill, purchasing manager. Morning. 7 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Yeah, I mostly had financial questions. So contracts for compressed natural gas for vehicles, I was curious how does the fixed, it talked about the difference between fixed and variable rates, how does a fixed rate in the contract compare to say market prices today? 8 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Do we know that? I do not know that. I would have to get that answer and can get it to you. I know we sign a contract every six months for a fixed rate. 9 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:51,820 Do we know any kind of benefit of that fixed rate as compared to the market? I do not have that answer, so I'd have to get that back to you. Do you have it? 10 00:01:51,820 --> 00:02:15,880 Good morning. JJ Tips, administration manager for solid waste. The benefits is that it's a locked price, so that we can do better to forecast that. The six month contract we sign is based on the price at that time, so Lumina offers it, basically tells us the most up to date. We choose to lock it in at that point. And I'm sorry, I forgot your other question. 11 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:29,920 Oh, that's okay. Yeah, so basically I was just trying to get an idea of is a fixed rate the best way to go? And so like how does it compare to the market? Are we generally coming out ahead? Are we 50/50? How does that work? 12 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:45,040 It varies due to the volatility of the market. What it does for us is it allows us to better project and budget for that. We know what the price is going to be for six months as opposed to just spot pricing each time we fill up. 13 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Okay. But on the whole, I think it works out. We get hit, you know, we lock something in and the prices go up, or the same thing happens the other way. Do prices ever go down? 14 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:24,200 We've seen it, not in a while. But yeah, I think when I first started a few years ago, CNG was around $2 per, I think MMBTU is the measurement. Now we're up around six. Wow. Okay. Okay. All right. Do we have a motion to prove item A? Mr. Beck motioned and Barbara second. All in favor say aye. 15 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Aye. Opposed? You're an aye? Okay. I did vote for it. Yes. Okay. It was late. I just want to make sure it was what you wanted. Okay. The next item is considered the approval of the June 13th minutes. Were there any changes or corrections? Okay. Seeing none, do we have a motion to approve? So moved. Okay. Barbara moved. Billy second. 16 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:13,680 All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Management reports. So Madam Chair and Board, really no changes to both of these items for you. Just as a reminder, July 25th is kind of our targeted date for the POB to formally approve or make a recommendation on the budget and the rates to the City Council. 17 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:28,760 So that's a pretty important date for you to have on your calendar. Obviously, you know, we have a budget presentation day. We'll have some additional presentations coming to you on July 11th. And then, of course, the 25th will be the date that we designated for you to approve the budget formally. 18 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:44,240 So we'll be asking you to approve an ordinance or approval of an ordinance to go to the Council. And then the two items that we have on the agenda today, there's a presentation by our procurement department on a question that was asked about the frequency of meetings and then the other item we're still working on. 19 00:04:44,240 --> 00:05:01,560 So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. Any questions? Go ahead. I know it's an issue right now, but we haven't really spoken about the drought conditions and what that's doing to our current water supply. I wonder if we could get something brief on that. 20 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Yeah, we could probably bring that back to you. I think there's a discussion today. I don't know if Steven might be prepared to answer that later today during the work session. Okay. Thank you. 21 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:23,400 All right. Concluding items. Does any board member wish to have a future item added to the agenda or have anything to say? 22 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:43,160 No. All right. We'll go into our work session. The first one is to receive a report, hold a discussion and give staff direction on the public utility board meeting schedule. 23 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Morning. Lori Hewell, purchasing manager. A little background first. On May 9th, you guys requested a work session to determine the feasibility of moving to one meeting per month. The city charter does require the PUB to meet at least once a month. 24 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:16,000 The current process is you're meeting twice a month. And our process in procurement for all of our procurement items is that we get a recommendation of approval by PUB a minimum of five days before council. We do have a couple exceptions to the process. 25 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:33,720 The back to back meeting, like this week, we have council tomorrow, so there's a couple items going back to back. We're allowed to do that when there's no scheduled council meetings within 10 days. Since the next council meeting is not until July 19th, we're approved to go bring a couple items back to back. 26 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:52,440 The other would be retroactive, which means you guys see it after council has already approved it. This will occur if there is a PUB meeting canceled or if the existing contract is going to expire or there's some issue that it needs to go to council first before PUB. 27 00:06:52,440 --> 00:07:11,680 >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Madam, before you move on. >> Yes. >> One of the items on your slide was meeting is canceled by PUB chair and/or staff liaison. Under what circumstances do we normally cancel a meeting? 28 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,720 >> Lack of quorum. >> Lack of quorum, okay. And from the staff side. 29 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:36,160 >> We have an emergency meeting. We have an emergency meeting. We have an emergency meeting. If there was an emergency situation, something like that. Generally speaking, if that's going to happen, I'll be in touch with both the chair and vice chair of the PUB and get some consensus and notify the PUB in advance. 30 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:45,720 That's the only time if there's an emergency situation that would necessitate. We wouldn't cancel it just because we had a short agenda or anything like that. 31 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Otherwise, you'll try to hold the -- we will try to hold the meeting. And if we don't have a quorum, we just can't make any decisions. >> Right. >> Okay. Thank you. 32 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:14,120 >> Okay. So PUB does not just approve purchasing stuff. We have the majority. But then there's budget also. And then just miscellaneous non-procurement contracts. These are just some purchasing metrics of how many months we had, like how many had two meetings a month and how many just had one. 33 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:28,440 Normally, it's just November and December with one meeting. So this is the metrics for 2021. We actually brought you in 2021, 133 items with seven of them going retroactive. So you saw it afterward. 34 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:43,320 And this year so far, we've had 78 items brought to you. But we also did -- had 21 retro items because of the break in January that there was a five-week break. And actually, it was longer than that. I think it was like six or seven weeks. 35 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:59,720 And 18 of those items were from that break of the 21 retro items. The average time it takes us from when -- we do not allow an item to go on to the agenda unless it is complete, meaning that the vendor has signed it and then we have an ordinance from legal. 36 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:21,000 So from that point, the average time from it being complete to it getting approved by council is about 24 days. That's where we're sitting right now. So to kind of get the item to that agenda-ready process, it takes about 70 to 120 days of staff time to get it there. 37 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:32,920 And that's staff time in the procurement office. There is more time with the department getting the specifications ready, getting the scope put together, price lists and all those items, and then they bring it to us at solicitation review committee. 38 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:49,800 We tend to try to get that advertised within two weeks of it coming to us. Then it's advertised anywhere from two weeks to a month. And then it goes to the evaluation committee and interviews, and that could take anywhere from two weeks to a month, a month and a half, depending if there's demos and things like that. 39 00:09:49,800 --> 00:10:01,240 And then once we've picked our top vendor, then we have contract negotiations. Sometimes those go really quickly, but sometimes those can last up to a month. So that's kind of where we get the seven to 120 days. 40 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Once all that is done and we have a signed contract by the vendor and an ordinance from legal, we consider it agenda-ready. It has to be agenda-ready 12 days before -- well, it has to be completed. 41 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:28,200 So there's 12 days until we have to have it on legislature. So it has to be completed, and there's 12 days from that date till PUB. So once we get it in and start that process, after PUB recommends approval, it takes seven days to get to counsel. 42 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:40,520 So no matter what, in that process, there is 19 days, but we still tend to average about 24 days from completion. 43 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:59,400 >> Yes, go ahead. >> Yes. >> Last meeting, we talked about your request for the increase in staff. >> I think we need -- do you see the increase in staff shrinking that 70 to 120-day time period, or is it going to remain about the same? 44 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:10,360 >> Yes, I hope it would. >> It should? >> Yes, it should. >> Okay. >> Give my staff more time to work on -- we'd be able to divide the departments up better to where they wouldn't have as many departments, so they'd be able to get to their items quicker. 45 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:32,520 >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. Okay. So currently, the average number of days, like I said, was 24. If we went to only one meeting a week or a month, sorry, it would possibly increase up to 42 days. 46 00:11:32,520 --> 00:12:01,640 Material, supplies, service, and construction may take longer to purchase. So exception increases, like if we were going down to one month, we would like to add a new exception to the retroactive, which would be that if the next scheduled PUB meeting is more than 20 days from contract completion, we would be able to go to counsel first, so that would mean most likely that there would be more items that you guys would see retroactively, so you wouldn't see it before you got the approval. 47 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:21,080 And then also during budget presentations, like the summer, so May through September, to keep the two meetings a month. To change, to do one meeting a month, it would just be the approval of a new calendar. 48 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Staff, we do recommend staying at the two meetings per month schedule just to ensure, you know, the timely procurement of the material, supplies, and services. Questions? >> Questions. >> Since this is my question, I'll ask another one. Thank you for that. I understand it's a long and involved process for procurement because it is a public entity, the city. I'm sure the same is true, county, state, federal, so forth. 49 00:12:50,760 --> 00:13:19,000 But we had several meetings in a row where we had a total time of meeting of less than 20 minutes because there was really only one item for this sort of thing on our agenda. >> Well, most of our items are on consent. >> Yes. >> So even though there was -- >> Right. So since your items are on consent and we didn't pull anything out of consent, so that's on us, but my point being is that, you know, we were brought in here for several meetings in a row where we were only here for 15 minutes. 50 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:43,960 So it doesn't seem like a good use of our time, and I recognize you have a long process. Is there a way for you to, since you have this long process, to sort of shepherd these things into a little bit more occurring in a per meeting basis in our offseason when we are not in the budget cycle? 51 00:13:43,960 --> 00:14:12,520 >> I think it's just really hard to know when the contract is going to be done. Sometimes we have it completely done, and then we put it in, and then the vendor has more questions. So it's really hard. Most of these items -- so our biggest complaint from departments is that this process takes a long time, so -- and there's stuff we can control, which is our time, but there's a lot of stuff we can't control. We can't control the vendors, you know, contract negotiations, how long it takes them to get us a BAFO back, a best and final offer. 52 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:41,080 There's a lot of things that are not in our control, and then even the end process. There's 19 days that we can't control because we have to get it into Legistar those 19 days before, so 12 for PUB and then seven for council. So there's a lot of days in the process we can't, so once it's done, we just try to get it on the next, just so the departments can get what they need, and a lot of times they're getting it to us way ahead of time, and we still don't make the deadline to get a contract. 53 00:14:41,080 --> 00:15:02,600 And before the other one expires, or if it's like a construction project, before they wanted to have it started, before it was like planned in the CIP to get started, a lot of times we are missing that date. So this would just add, it would increase most likely our average to be, instead of 24 days, it could be up to 42 days, so they'd have to wait to get it approved. 54 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:11,520 And I know from my perspective, you said 21 contracts had to go to council, and we were informed retroactively? 55 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,020 Correct. 56 00:15:12,020 --> 00:15:30,640 And I think Billy will concur, I'm not speaking for him. I think it's our duty to even show up for 20 minutes to approve those contracts before city council, so that's my opinion is that we, go ahead Barbara. 57 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:41,800 Is it possible when we anticipate a very brief meeting that we zoom that meeting? 58 00:15:41,800 --> 00:16:01,600 No, Barbara, there's very limited circumstances in which we can teleconference under state law as well as our charter and board and commission meeting standards. 59 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Susan and I share a similar opinion on this, I think it is our duty, it's the charter and it's the law, and I think we ran into, or during the pandemic, we ran into a situation, we had a conundrum, and it was, everything was coming to us retroactively, but it still needed to be approved in accordance with the charter, right? 60 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:32,480 I believe it's, if not state statute, but then at the same time, I've asked this question several times, you know, if we're going to do that, then why do we have to have a public utility board? 61 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,680 So, true, yeah, because the charter says we do, anyway. 62 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Well, Billy, and kind of in response to that, if you recall, we set up a procedure that we shared with the board on how we're going to handle items that go to the council first and then retroactively to the PAB, but that was intended to be kind of the exception and not the rule, and I think we've tried to do a really good job. 63 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:22,560 And frankly, to be honest with you, I think what Lori's saying is that two meetings a month is almost the bare minimum when you consider the number of contracts and procurement items that they have on the agenda, obviously, some of those items are on your consent agenda, and there's very little questions, but that's certainly incumbent upon the board to review those items, and if there are questions, you're free to pull them. 64 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:42,360 You know, we try to exercise some judgment as well on some items, depending on what the item is and the dollar value, sometimes we preemptively will put them for individual consideration and plan a presentation if it's an item that we know you're ultimately going to have questions about anyways, and so, but again, kind of just going back to Billy's comment, that certainly was an issue. 65 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:54,000 We met with the chair and the vice chair, we heard them loud and clear, and that's why we established that procedure that we have in place, and hopefully, the number of items that are going to the council before the PAB are very minimal. 66 00:17:54,000 --> 00:18:12,240 Right. You know, and I think, you know, we've spoken about this sidebar just saying that having the two meetings there doesn't mean you can't cancel one if you don't need it, so that's all. 67 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:19,320 So what do you need from us? 68 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:36,520 No, I think Laura's just kind of looking for some concurrence or some direction from the PAB on, I think the recommendation is to keep things the way they are, and if there is a situation where we have to cancel a meeting or if there is an opportunity for us to aggregate things and maybe cancel a meeting, we're willing to take a look at that. 69 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:42,120 It's just based on the volume of contracts she has, I think it's going to be almost impossible at this point. 70 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,200 Go ahead, Devin. 71 00:18:44,200 --> 00:19:06,840 Thank you, Chair. This might not be the most exciting part of being on the PUV, but this is a critical function for government to operate, for the utility department to function, so it's a small sacrifice, I think, to come up here for 15 or 20 minutes every two weeks or so, so I don't see a problem with the volume. 72 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:25,240 We're seeing 180, 200-plus approvals a year that are needed and the delay that it would incur, or the change in process where there'd be a 10-day period every month, a third of all contracts would go to City Council first and come back. 73 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:41,800 That seems like that's a pretty big hole in the process, so, I mean, two meetings a month, except when they can't happen for urgent reasons, is appropriate. 74 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,400 Okay, I see Mr. Beck shaking his head, yes. 75 00:19:45,400 --> 00:20:06,520 I concur with Mr. Taylor, and these brief meetings that we do have could turn into longer ones. It is an opportunity where if something came up where one of us really wanted an elaboration on an item, it could turn into a 30- or 45-minute meeting, so it offers us that opportunity, too. 76 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:33,880 Well, since this was my complaint, I would appreciate it if items could be aggregated during the off-season as much as possible, and I understand we do have to meet, we are obligated to look at these items and approve them, but if our agendas are going to be short, I shall be sure to pull more items from the consent agenda to make our meetings more worthwhile. 77 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,600 All right, so I think you have your direction. We'll stay as we're doing, okay, thank you. 78 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,160 Thanks. 79 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:46,840 All right, and the next item is to receive a report and hold discussions and give staff direction on the preliminary budgets. 80 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:56,760 Good morning, Chair Peebe, members, thank you, and Assistant Director of Finance. Let me get the first presentation pulled up. 81 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,840 So, before we get started, just give you a brief introduction to the presentations, and we definitely can get started with each one. 82 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:10,040 So, there's three presentations for you today. The first presentation is a continuation of the water, wastewater, and solid waste presentation. 83 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:28,440 The second presentation is the electric operating budget. That's actually the first time that's come forward to you. And then the next one is the capital budget that's being proposed for fiscal year 2023. 84 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:35,400 Okay, so I know several Peebe members were not here last meeting, so please feel free to ask questions if you have them. 85 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Definitely, I'm glad to answer those, even if they're the same questions. So, just a little bit of overview of the presentation. 86 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,520 We have removed the operational slides for water, wastewater, and solid waste from today's presentation. 87 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,920 This presentation will focus just on the financial perspective of these utilities. 88 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:59,160 So, we will talk about the water, wastewater, and solid waste budgets. 89 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:07,640 So, the financial assumptions for water, just for anybody who went here last time, I'll run through these really quick, and then please ask any questions that you may have. 90 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,760 So, average growth for the water utility, we're currently forecasting 2% over a 10-year period. 91 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,840 The financial forecast that you'll see today is actually a five-year forecast, but we do plan in a 10-year window. 92 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:27,240 The Hunter-Cole Ranch development is accounted for in 2024, so we start seeing those rooftops pop up with the Hunter-Cole Ranch development starting then. 93 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:35,240 We do have 2% to 3% increases in non-rate revenues. This expense should not be there. That's actually a typo. 94 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,640 So, we have 2% to 3% expense increases also in the budget. 95 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:47,880 One update I did want to tell the Peebe about that's happened since our last meeting is the TMR's contribution rate increase from 17.65% 96 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:55,320 to 18.15%, and then the capital budget expenses were revised based on some internal cross-departmental meetings. 97 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:05,080 So, meeting with the engineering department, meeting with water, wastewater, looking at the projects, doing those cross-coordination medians has resulted in some changes to the capital budget. 98 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,920 They're minimal, but we wanted to make sure to point them out. 99 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:17,560 The TMR's rate increase, could you give us just a brief description of what that is? 100 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Yeah, great question. I should have spelt that out here. That's the Texas Municipal Retirement System, so that is the city's retirement system for the employees. 101 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:31,080 So, we make a contribution. The city makes a contribution to that plan on behalf of employees. 102 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960 This is the contribution to make that fund whole this coming year. 103 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,280 As part of the budget, this rate increase in that contribution then? 104 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,920 That is correct. Yeah, absolutely. 105 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:47,800 So, the percentage of increase was dictated by the total dollar amount needed, or did the council raise the rate? 106 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,960 No, great question. So, we do have consultants to look at that. That is the total percentage needed to make that fund whole. 107 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:03,240 That is what's needed this coming year to make it whole, based on who's putting into it, who's taking out interest earnings, everything. 108 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:12,120 I have a question on the 2 to 3 percent increase. Do you think that's enough with how quickly certain items are inflating? 109 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,640 I think, Susan, that's definitely a great question, something we talked about last time. 110 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:22,440 I mean, I think inflation, you look at the news, and inflation is at 8 percent. We're budgeting a 3 percent increase in expenses. 111 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:32,200 We do think, I think, from cost containment and some cost reduction strategies, I think it is sufficient, but it's definitely something we're going to have to monitor throughout the fiscal year. 112 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:40,760 And a good example of that is fuel. You know, we're increasing a 52 percent in fuel, a 52 percent increase in fuel, but it's very possible it may not be sufficient. 113 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:47,720 And if it's not sufficient, we'll definitely come back to the Public Utility Board during the fiscal year, update you with a possible budget amendment. 114 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:54,360 So, hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully see inflation start going down, and the 2 to 3 percent will be sufficient, but you have to be determined. 115 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,040 Yeah, fuel was my main concern because of the 2 percent increase. 116 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:04,360 Yeah, big component of the solid waste budget, absolutely. Thank you. 117 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:10,920 OK, so this is the water forecast here, as I'd said. So, we do plan on a 10-year financial picture. 118 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:18,120 I am showing just a five-year picture here for presentation purposes, and just a little bit, the numbers can be a little bit bigger for you. 119 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:22,360 So, I'm going to walk through this slowly. Please feel free to ask questions if you have them. 120 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:32,840 The fiscal year 2022 columns, you can see that column here. This is the current fiscal year that we're in. This runs from October 2021 to September 2022. 121 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:40,920 The fiscal year will be ending pretty soon. You can see our adopted revenues here are $52.2 million, and then our expenses are $51.2 million. 122 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:49,240 I think Mr. Cheek had a question earlier about revenues, and I know Stephen is here and definitely can talk to the drought conditions that we've been seeing here lately. 123 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,680 But we are currently forecasting about $51.4 million in water revenue. So, really close to the budget. 124 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:01,240 I think water sales, we're definitely forecasting those to continue to increase in the summer months as we continue to see this dry weather. 125 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:08,440 On the expenses, you can see the estimated expense is about $50.3 million. So, for net income, about $1.1 million. 126 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,840 2023, so this is the budget we're here to talk to you about today. You can see we have planned revenue of $62.2 million. 127 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:23,560 One thing we did talk about last meeting was this large increase between the adopted revenues of $52.2 million and what we're proposing for 2023. 128 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:31,160 This is a cost participation. So, we do have some cost participation funding coming in for some different tech stock projects, and we'll look at those shortly. 129 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:37,080 So, we're simply pulling those into the operating budget and expensing them out to the appropriate project. 130 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:45,560 On the expenditure side, you can see we have $62.4 million in expenses. So, using about $248,000 in reserves. 131 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Going down to the bottom down here, one thing I definitely want to point out, it's important for this utility. 132 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,520 This utility is healthy. This is a great utility as all the utilities in the city are great. 133 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:05,320 But one thing we focused on the water utility is really leveraging those revenue funding of projects and impact fee funding to offset some debt issuance. 134 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:11,080 So, it's really benefited this fund in the last three or four years. I just want to make sure I pointed that out because the staff has done a great job. 135 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,560 So, this rate increase, you can actually see for the five-year window, we are not forecasting rate increases for their water utility. 136 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:25,960 This does not include those contractual agreements. There will be some contractual agreements that will come back to the public utility board during the July 11th meeting. 137 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240 So, we'll be looking forward to those. They will be coming forward to you. 138 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:37,640 As you move down the page a little bit here, you can see the end of the reserve balance. So, we do keep a reserve balance for the water utility in case something catastrophic was to happen. 139 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Currently, we have about $24.5 million that we are forecasting to have. You can see that number right there. 140 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,680 The reserve targets, if you remember last year, we did talk to you about reserve targets for the different utilities. 141 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:58,440 The minimum reserve in this utility is $18.4 or 120 days and then $27.8, which is 180 days. You can see those numbers there. 142 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:10,280 So, we do fit in that reserve target in each of the years. We slightly dip below in 2027, but we will look at this annually to make sure that we are above that reserve target in the future. 143 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Does anybody have any questions on water? Yes, sir. 144 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:36,760 Yes. In the previous slide, we talked about like a 2% to 3% increases in expenses, revenue, and it looks like this is about a 12% increase in revenue from current year. 145 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:45,080 Is that like $57 million versus $50.5 million? Is that $51 million? 146 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Are you talking this $52.2 million in 2023 or 2022? 147 00:28:50,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Yeah, $51.447 total revenue versus $62 million minus the $6 million. So, we are expecting that is 12%? 148 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:12,520 Yeah, great question. So, it probably is 12%. I can't do that math this early in the morning, but the majority of that is the cost participation. 149 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:22,920 So, if you look up here, you can see that $6.2 million. So, that cost participation is coming in as a revenue. If you were to exclude that, right, it would bring that number down to about $56, $55. 150 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:30,120 So, I think the majority of that increase that you are seeing is associated with that cost participation from text-dot reimbursements. 151 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Okay, let's look at the total expenditures in less aid and construction. So, we go from $50.3 million to $56.2 million down the line. That's more than a 10% increase? 152 00:29:48,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Yep, great question. So, if you excluded, now we could do a couple things, right, is you could exclude the revenue funding capital if you wanted. The majority of the increase is the same thing here, right, we have the cost participations that are being expensed out of the operating budget. 153 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:17,160 So, that $6.2 million is buried in this $18.9. Another thing that you are not seeing is the revenue funding component of it. So, we are continuing to increase that revenue funding in the future for those projects. 154 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:29,720 I think if you were to exclude all that, you would not see that drastic increase. Hopefully that answers your question. Is that 2% is non-revenue funding of projects or debt service? That is O&M expenses. 155 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,720 Okay, so we are anticipating water revenue to increase by more than 10% next year? 156 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:47,240 No, not water sales. No, water sales for residential customers. I may not be understanding your question. 157 00:30:47,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Total expenditures, less aid in construction, is $50.3 for FY2022. Yeah, right, down one, down right there, and then it's $56 in 2023, and that's approximately what it would, if you take the total revenues and you subtract out the cost participation, those are in line with each other. 158 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:32,840 So, that appears that revenue is forecast to increase by $5 million or so, and expenditures are also, am I, I must be missing something here. 159 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:51,160 I think you're correct. I see exactly what you're saying. So, this aid in construction line that you see down here, so we have $50.3, then it goes to $56.2. This does exclude aid in construction, so this cost participation project, right, but there's other things it doesn't exclude, and what are those things it doesn't exclude? 160 00:31:51,160 --> 00:32:07,000 So, this year coming up, we are looking to do some supplemental packages, right, currently of $1.1 million, so that'd be above that 2% or 3% that we're talking about. Then we're also to do an additional $2 million or $3 million in revenue funding of projects. 161 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:20,200 So, I think if you take both of those, right, it's going to be about $4 million that's increasing this next year. So, that, when it says excludes aid in construction, it's just excluding the cost participation projects. Hopefully, that helps answer your question. 162 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Right, but that does indicate that revenues are increasing from $51.4 to $56, right. So, if I take $62.2 and subtract out the $6.2, we get about $56 million in revenue. 163 00:32:42,600 --> 00:33:00,680 So, Nick, I think if, you know, so Devin, if you take a look at the user charge, right, so in fiscal year '22 estimate, right, the first two lines, about $40 million, right, that's projected to increase to about $43 million. 164 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:18,960 That's about roughly a 1% increase. That's the actual revenue. All the other increases really coming from those miscellaneous revenues and then also the cost participation that Nick's talking to. So, the actual user charges, it's only about 1% increase. 165 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:32,120 Okay, and then the additional, I guess there's another 1.7 additional in miscellaneous revenue, 1.7 million additional in miscellaneous. And what accounts for that? 166 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:44,320 So, the majority of what's in miscellaneous revenue is you have some wholesale agreements that are in there. So, for some raw water sales, then you also have tapping fees, meter fees, it could be meter replacement fees. 167 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:56,760 So, we're continuing to see an increase in tapping fees. I think actually last fiscal year we saw like a $1.4 million increase or something that fiscal year. So, that 2 to 3% that Tony talks about, right, is from a volumetric standpoint. 168 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:05,760 The numbers that you're seeing in DAWN or miscellaneous revenues would be the non-volumetric revenues, those things that would be outside of 2 to 3%. So, they'd be above that. 169 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,240 And I guess a driver of tapping fees would be new houses. 170 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:10,840 Growth, yes, absolutely. Yes, sir. 171 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,480 All right, thank you. 172 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,000 You're welcome. 173 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:26,840 Okay, so I'm going to go to, I think the next one here is waste water. We'll go through these, very similar to water. We try to be as consistent as possible across the utilities, especially water, as you can imagine. 174 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:37,480 So, average population growth at 2% over 10 years, 100 coal ranch, of course, is in 2024. We do have the 2 to 3% that Mr. Taylor was talking about just shortly ago. 175 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,040 And we have expenses of 2 to 3%, and, of course, the TMRS rate. I'll have to repeat the percentage for you, but you can see that increase that we talked about. 176 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:55,240 With this reoccurring supplemental request, we'll talk about these in greater detail if you want and provide that backup for you. It's actually provided as an exhibit in your agenda today. 177 00:34:55,240 --> 00:35:00,880 And then you can see some new positions that are being requested in the department. 178 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:13,360 So, wastewater fund, very similar to water. We are showing a five-year picture. We do have a 10-year forecast for this utility, just like water. A little bit different. Wastewater does have some forecasted rate increases in the future years. 179 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,280 We talked about last meeting, so I want to make sure to make the PUB aware of that. We'll talk about that a little bit. 180 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:29,560 So, you can see in this column here, the 2022 budget of what we're currently in. We had adopted revenues of 38.6 or 38.7, expenses of 37.9. 181 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:39,560 We are forecasting about 45.8. That increase is mostly contributed to a cost participation project from a development. We've already received an $8 million contribution from that project. 182 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:57,320 So, we are showing that as revenue coming in this year. It's one, one project. That was for, I may have to have Stephen come up and talk to that, but yeah, but I do believe I know which one it is. 183 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,000 I hate to tell you the wrong name, though. But it is one project, though, Mr. T. 184 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:20,640 So, I might be asking the same question if I didn't hear it very well. So, the cost participation, you've got a big bump in two years in the wastewater fund and only one in the water side. I'm curious why the difference. 185 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:38,400 This $8 million, this $12.6. Okay, in '22 estimate, you've got a cost participation of $8 million. In '23 preliminary, you've got one up to $12.7, whereas in the water side, you only have one cost participation fee in one year. 186 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,080 I'm just curious why it's two years versus one year. That's all. 187 00:36:42,080 --> 00:37:10,040 Well, Stephen Gay, Director of Water Utilities, I can let Nick answer the question about the timing, but with regards to the project, the cost participation project, you may recall, I want to say about almost three meetings ago, you guys approved us entering into agreement with the developer to do those improvements on Milam Creek up on the, as part of the TechStat relocation, and that was an $8 million contribution to complete that project. So, that's what that, that's what that cost participation is for. 188 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:24,400 So, we're installing a gravity line, and we're funding it this year. We have to do some design work, and so next year, we'll be doing all the construction. So, this budget cycle is when we're going to be completing that construction. 189 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:32,520 So, then what's the preliminary for next year, '23, the $12.7 million, or six? 190 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,000 Yeah, it's the $12.6. So, I was just talking to Cassie, which she brings up a great point. 191 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:46,320 So, in wastewater, we have two projects, one of them being a Milam project, Milam Road project, and we have one for TechStat. So, there's two projects that we're showing as revenue coming in in 2023. 192 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Okay, thank you. 193 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,720 Yeah, you're welcome. And on water, it was just one, so, yeah. 194 00:37:51,720 --> 00:38:02,360 Okay, so, 2023, I'll continue here, just total revenue, you can see $55.3 million in revenue. We are planning to use some reserves. We'll talk about that here in just a second. 195 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:11,640 Expenses, you can see 62.5, of course, the majority of that increase is associated with those cost participation and then revenue funding of projects. 196 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:22,760 Moving down the page a little bit here, you can see we are not forecasting a rate increase this current year. We are proposing to use some reserves from the fund balance to offset some of these expenses. 197 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:31,760 Moving out in the future, though, what I did want to point out to the Public Utility Board in '24, '25, and '26, we are forecasting a 3% rate increase each year. 198 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:41,200 One thing I talked about the Public Utility Board last meeting was, is that we look at this budget annually, even though we're forecasting in 2024, staff will take a look at it again next year. 199 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:49,600 And if that rate increase is needed, we'll bring it forward to you. But we just want to be transparent and tell you what's on the horizon for the Wastewater Fund. 200 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,400 Does anybody have questions, Susan? 201 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,640 Can you remind me what our debt coverage ratio is for our bond covenants? 202 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Is it 1.2? Great question. 1.25 for this utility. 203 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,400 So we're always meeting that. Thank you. 204 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,360 Did you have something, Tony? 205 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Hey, before you leave both of these funds, there was a question that Billy had earlier about drought conditions. Billy, do you want -- you used to want to ask -- 206 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,880 It was more of a physical -- physically where I went with our water right now. 207 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Okay, I think Stephen has some information he can probably address now. 208 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,640 Good morning, Stephen Gay, Director of Water Utilities, PB Member Cheek. 209 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:41,600 We just -- I checked this morning, so the Corps of Engineers shows both of our reservoirs are actually spilling currently, so we're in really good shape. 210 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:49,960 Current elevation at Ray Roberts is 632, Lake Louisville is at 522, and we monitor those lake levels very regularly. 211 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:58,320 And we look back at the five-year condition, and we actually have more water in the reservoirs today than we had in 2017 and 2018. 212 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,120 So hopefully that answers your question. Yes, sir? 213 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,080 Is the dry weather increasing customer demand? 214 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,600 Yes, it is, yeah. 215 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:19,600 And you'll see when we -- in our next budget presentations, if we put the operational information in, we'll update those numbers, and you can see that escalation in production. 216 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,120 Thank you. 217 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,560 You had referenced a couple of numbers when you were saying what the levels were, were those feet of depth or acre? 218 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,240 They're the actual elevation of the water in the lake. 219 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:29,800 Thank you. 220 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,440 Yes, sir? 221 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,160 What's the threshold that sends up the red flags? 222 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:48,120 It's -- when we get down, I want to say in Ray Roberts, it's 622, and in Lake Louisville, I want to say it's 510 to 18. 223 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,400 So we've got some bandwidth there. 224 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:58,200 And the Corps of Engineers who is responsible for operating those lakes, they're the ones that are monitoring it, and they're actually spilling currently. 225 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,760 So we have plenty of water coming into the reservoirs at this time. 226 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,040 When we do reset threshold, what are the initial actions the city starts taking? 227 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:12,360 Yeah, we have a conservation and drought management program, and so what we'll do is we'll start messaging that to our community. 228 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:21,400 And, you know, you may or may not be aware, but the largest use is outdoor water use and watering, so that will be the first step is to curtail outdoor water usage. 229 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:27,800 And so then we'll kick into maybe a two-day watering scenario and, again, message that to the public. 230 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,080 Okay, thanks. 231 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,600 You're very welcome. 232 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,680 Good. 233 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040 Thank you, Stephen. 234 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640 Okay, anybody else with wastewater? 235 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480 That's okay. 236 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,960 All right, so drainage. 237 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,200 Drainage does roll up into the wastewater utility, but we do show it separately just for transparency. 238 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:55,080 So you can see the adopted budget here that we're currently in, what we're forecasting in the preliminary budget. 239 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:05,240 So preliminary budget for drainage is $6.4 million, right, and the majority of that is from that impervious surface revenue that we receive for drainage fees. 240 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:16,440 And you can see expenses, about $6.4 million in expenses, and we keep a million dollars in fund balance for anything that may happen on the drainage utility. 241 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:23,640 This is the solid waste financial assumption is a little bit different than water wastewater, so I'll walk you through it here and ask any questions you may have. 242 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,080 So we are including the wholesale agreements for solid waste. 243 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480 As a reminder, these agreements actually came up for renewal this year. 244 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,160 The public utility board and city council, we were considering those for approval here in the next couple weeks. 245 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,600 So be on the lookout for that. 246 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,080 The financials you see today include those wholesale agreements. 247 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,680 If they don't get approved, something was to happen, we'd come back to you with a modified financial picture with those taken out. 248 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960 So just keep that in mind. 249 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:58,360 We are projecting an increase between 2.5 and 3.5 percent, a little bit more growth in the solid waste utility just for some landfill traffic that we're seeing coming in that facility. 250 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,680 So it's a little bit outside of that city growth. It's actually outside growth coming into that facility. 251 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,880 Expenses, we are 100 percent revenue funding of vehicle replacements is a great achievement in this utility. 252 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,560 This is something we started talking about a couple of years ago and we finally reached that benchmark. 253 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,200 So we are proud of that. 254 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,120 Fifty three percent increase in gas and oil. 255 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,720 Hopefully that is overstated. 256 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,800 Hopefully it's only a 10 percent increase. 257 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,320 So we get to be determined. 258 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,840 We are maintaining the contributions to the closure post closure fund. 259 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:33,160 We actually updated this or are in the process of updating the closure post closure study this year to incorporate the new permit that was approved. 260 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,960 Yes, sir. Mr. Jumper. 261 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:47,520 I can't remember if a meeting or two ago recently we talked about possibly the possibility of electric vehicles instead of gas or diesel vehicles. 262 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,520 Can anybody remind me where we landed on that? 263 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:57,720 I'll ask Eugene to come up here and speak to that from Solid Waste. He has the details. 264 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,880 Good morning, everyone. Eugene McKinney, Deputy Director, Solid Waste and Recycling. 265 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,600 To your to your point of electric vehicles, we've been exploring that for quite some time now. 266 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,080 There are a lot of different models on the market promising a lot. 267 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,760 But as we dig down and look at some of the solid waste equipment, there are heavier trucks that require a lot. 268 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,600 And just to be honest, the battery life is just not there to support a full route for one day. 269 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,840 In fact, we just demoed Mac makes a great product. 270 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,520 But I think on a residential route, we have about twelve hundred homes. 271 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:36,320 The city is growing. Right. The capacity for that truck before recharge is only one hundred and fifty tips. 272 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:44,040 That's only an hour because not only is the engine and everything electric, the mechanics of the body are electric. 273 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,880 So it almost reminds me of the first cell phone we can imagine we've seen. Right. 274 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,480 It was kind of big spaceship thing. And now we've got a little computer in our hands. Right. 275 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,640 So evolution is coming. But we're just concerned about jumping into it right now. 276 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:04,320 Great. So basically, longevity, work life, battery life, all that. Yes. 277 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,080 Not even close. It sounds like, you know, when I say close, I'm thinking I just I just attended a trade show. 278 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,040 And the best estimates were about three, five, seven years. 279 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,760 You know, however, we are we are putting our investment in smaller footprint vehicles. 280 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,160 We have some electric cars. They have much better range. 281 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,320 So if you live in the city, question you do, you got an automated cart that we deliver. 282 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,560 We're looking at an automated truck, I mean, our electric vehicle for that, that box truck. 283 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,160 It has a range of six to eight hours from from from full to empty. 284 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,600 Of course, the lighter the vehicle is, because as the day go along, the more efficient it is. 285 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,760 So it's coming, but just not from the applications we're looking for right now. 286 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,600 You know, one of the questions that was asked, well, if it only get one hundred and fifty containers for one truck, 287 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,600 we need about 10 trucks to pick up one route. So that's kind of where we are. 288 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,560 OK, thanks. Thanks. Good question, though. 289 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,960 All right. We will look at the financials now. Oh, yes. 290 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,240 Oh, sorry, Barbara. I'm sorry. I am hearing that in reference to the dump. 291 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:22,440 This may not be a question for you, but that either there are a lot of people using it or something's not working real correctly 292 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:29,160 because it's a three to four hour wait to empty at the at the dump. 293 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:40,000 And I was just wondering if you had a sense of why it's taking so long or there that many people using it. 294 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:46,120 We can join together. So we have had a lot of questions about that line coming in. 295 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:53,080 We have a capital improvement project in the budget to redo the scale house to help with that coming in and out. 296 00:46:53,080 --> 00:47:00,240 But Eugene will probably tell you the DFW landfill closed, which was in Louisville. So that has created a large shift 297 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,360 where people are coming in and accessing the landfill at much greater numbers. 298 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,160 Now, they do have a great plan of getting people in and out. 299 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:16,440 And then we're looking at expanding that scale house so we can get maybe our trucks on a different route or more than one lane. 300 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:23,280 They've been closing and technically they're not completely closed. They're in a process called post closure. 301 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,160 So they're limiting the amount of waste that's coming in so they don't reach capacity. 302 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200 Well, in the process, they're raising the gate rates. 303 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:39,880 So it becomes it might be a closer drive, but the rates are so high it's cheaper to just to come to them. 304 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,240 So, you know, and that's just a way of controlling what comes in. 305 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,840 You raise the rate, I'm going to pay just six tickets, I'm going to pay seventy five dollars here versus twenty five dollars here. 306 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,720 Always I'll expire the extra five dollars in gas and I'm still safe. 307 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:59,400 Should we be looking at raising hours? 308 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,720 I guess that's part of another conversation with the comprehensive management strategy that's coming forward. 309 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,200 There is going to be a large emphasis on the diversion. 310 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:15,280 So looking at what's coming in and out, so definitely Brian and Eugene have lots of programming changes coming up to address that. 311 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,880 But what is coming in, we are working on, you know, what does our footprint look like? 312 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:28,040 How do we get people in and out quickly and expanding that scale house and what technology can we approve so that it's not a face to face transaction for entering the landfill and exiting? 313 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,200 Thank you, Taylor. Go ahead. 314 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:41,200 So I also I took some stuff out to the landfill recently and I noticed that it is a one point seven mile drive. 315 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:53,520 Once you pass the scale house to the working face and then another one point seven miles back is where it used to be about a half mile. 316 00:48:53,520 --> 00:49:08,400 That change was that change, I guess, what was the cause of that, because that's that's a pretty significant additional mileage for every customer and every city truck. 317 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,360 Well, a couple of things drove that one, we have to stay in compliance with our permit. 318 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,920 And one of that one one of the reasons for that is it's a control of the mud that comes out of the landfill. 319 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,480 So the further to travel on concrete, the thought is you'll get some of the mud off on concrete. 320 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:34,160 Now, for your light vehicles, we are finalizing the completion of our PDF, our public disposal facility, which you won't have those barriers in that area if you just bring it some out. 321 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,520 But but again, these are heavy trucks. They track the mud in and out. 322 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,920 We get a wet day. We can't we try to minimize having that on the main roads because we have to be compliant with our permit. 323 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,640 We have people out all the time. We have sweepers and things like that. 324 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,200 But as much as we can do, it starts inside the facility. 325 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,400 Right. So as much as we can reduce the mud inside, it kind of results to the street. 326 00:49:53,400 --> 00:50:05,240 OK, and another question unrelated, the the wholesale agreements has has declined about one and a half million twenty twenty three to twenty twenty two. 327 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:14,480 Do we have an agreement expire or are we just expecting less tipping from one of our agreements? 328 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:25,040 I think JJ, I'll bring you back up here. That's his subject matter area. He monitors those. 329 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,600 Good morning again, JJ Tips, Solid Waste Administration Manager. 330 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:41,040 This year, to coincide with the management, the Solid Waste Comprehensive Management Strategy, we elected to cap the volume we were going to accept. 331 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,160 So I believe it was around one hundred ninety seven thousand tons on this previous round. 332 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,480 We capped it at one twenty on this one. 333 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,880 And then there's some incentives for diversion to gain a little bit more for those haulers. 334 00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:03,960 So we currently have six agreements we're going to look to go on this next round, it looks like, with three. 335 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:13,880 So you said. So we are. The reduction in tonnage will come from removing three agreement or canceling ending terminating. 336 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,560 Yeah, we put out a competitive agreement. We capped that total amount at one hundred twenty thousand tons. 337 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,040 Now, that doesn't mean that the other haulers who aren't getting in on the new contracts will stop. 338 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,440 We don't know what that'll look like. So we may still get the same amount of tonnage. 339 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,720 But at that point, they'll be paying the full gate rate as opposed to a discounted rate. 340 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:42,800 I see. And so it's great news to be able to use this as an incentive for the diversion. Thank you. 341 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:49,560 Thank you. And we can point that out on the financials to Mr. 342 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,040 Taylor about some of that transitioning to the gate rate. 343 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,840 I'll point that out here in just a second. So let me keep going. 344 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,080 I'm glad I invited everybody to the meeting today. A bunch of people come up here. 345 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:06,840 It's good. Good interaction. So, hey, we like the questions. So the five year forecast, the solid waste utility. 346 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,320 So you can see the current budget that we're in here in twenty twenty two, about thirty nine point eight 347 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,960 million in revenue, about thirty seven point one million in expenses. 348 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,040 So about two point one or two point seven million positive and net income for the end of the year. 349 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:27,960 We're fairly close to the budget, about three point six million in net income to finish this fiscal year in 2023. 350 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:33,960 So the preliminary budget that we're going into, you can see revenue about thirty nine point eight million. 351 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,120 We do have some planned reserve usage and this is strategic. 352 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,680 We are looking to revenue fund some assets this coming year. 353 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,000 So we'll talk about that here in just a second. But going back up here really quick. 354 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,600 So you can see that wholesale agreement, Mr. Taylor, decreasing from six point two to four point seven. 355 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:55,640 You can see the transition to this rate revenue, which would include that landfill gate traffic or they pay the gate rate, basically the higher rate. 356 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,920 So we are anticipating that expenses for twenty twenty three. 357 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:05,480 You can see forty two point seven million in expenses. So it is increasing in twenty twenty three. 358 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,400 The majority of this increase you can see up here is that this vehicle replacement, three point six million in vehicle replacement. 359 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,400 This is one hundred percent of the collection vehicle in my mouse to work here. 360 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,880 One hundred percent of the collection vehicle replacement in the coming fiscal year. 361 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,600 We do have some revenue funded capital. You can see here. 362 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,040 And then we are also looking to start revenue funding our cell construction. 363 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,680 So budgeting annually for some contribution to a cell fund to build the next landfill cell. 364 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,520 So we are looking to do that. This fund is healthy. 365 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,640 We're looking to put that money to work for us and decrease the debt issuance moving forward. 366 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,520 So great news in this fund. Definitely positive things. 367 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:48,320 Is that a one year one year expense depreciated at all. 368 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:54,800 We use typically depreciated a life of the asset. So if we look to I think currently, if I'm not mistaken, I'm looking over here. 369 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,160 I think we're currently doing like five years on cell development just to stay consistent what we're seeing. 370 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:06,360 So yeah, the next cell slated, you can see here one point five, one point five and three figure on the twenty twenty five time period. 371 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,640 So coming up before you know it, I'll be here moving down the page a little bit. 372 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:17,800 You can see the operating reserve. So ending this fiscal year using a two point eight million in reserves or seven point five million. 373 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,760 Our reserve targets in this fund are five point nine to seven point six. 374 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,480 So we do maintain within that reserve requirement for the current year. 375 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,720 Moving into the future, we do dip below a little bit. 376 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:35,360 But that is as we continue to revenue fund those assets and then we bring it back up in the fifth year where we're in compliance with that revenue requirement. 377 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,800 So I just want to point that out to you. 378 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,440 No rate increase, no rate increase for solid waste customers down there. 379 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:51,720 Yeah. Yeah. And the same thing with with this utility like the others, are there any rates that do need to increase for cost of service based reasons? 380 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,400 We'll bring it back to you on July 11th. So yeah. 381 00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:00,560 But for the average residential customer, we're not forecasting rate increase. 382 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,720 But then next steps. So whoever wasn't here last time, just go through these really quick with you. 383 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:10,360 So June 28th, we do have a city council presentation. 384 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,760 We actually moved the electric discussion from city council then, but we do talk capital budget to city council tomorrow. 385 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,840 So we encourage you to watch that meeting. 386 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:23,240 They will see a version of the presentation that you see today later today, but it will include general fund departments. 387 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,480 So what you see today will just be for the utilities. 388 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,080 They'll get the big picture, be like a 60 slide presentation or something. 389 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,000 Cassie's looking forward to that presentation. 390 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:38,080 So July 11th, we'll start talking about the utility budgets again, start talking about those rate discussions. 391 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:45,960 And then, of course, on July 25th, as Tony mentioned earlier, be looking for your approval for the budget and rates. 392 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,960 That concludes this presentation. We have two more presentations. 393 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,920 The next one will go through electric. Tony's going to come up and present the operational information. 394 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,000 Once he gets done with that, I'll walk you through the financials. 395 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,400 Oh, go ahead. Sorry, Mr. Taylor has one more question. 396 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,360 Do we just have a like a two minute break? Oh, a two minute break. Sounds good. Sure. 397 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,840 Let's have a two minute break. We'll be back at 10, say 10 a.m. 398 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,840 All right, Tony. 399 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:23,280 OK, it is 10 o'clock and we are back. 400 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:28,360 Go ahead, Tony. OK, so, Madam Chair, members of the P.B., Tony Puente, DME General Manager. 401 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,920 I was telling Susan that's probably been about two and a half years the last time that I did a presentation here. 402 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:40,560 So I'm a little nervous. But just so you know, in case you don't know, it's been pretty hot, right? 403 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,680 And so I wanted to just kind of share a little bit of anecdotal information for you. 404 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:51,200 So prior to June of this year, ERCOT's all time summer peak was set in August of 2019. 405 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,280 It was seventy four thousand eight hundred and twenty megawatts. 406 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,000 In the month of June, we have exceeded that peak four times now, right? 407 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:07,560 With the latest peak coming on June 23rd, seventy six thousand five hundred and ninety two megawatts. 408 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,880 And that's in June. Right. So so again, so if you haven't noticed, it's pretty hot. 409 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,400 Energy use is certainly certainly up. 410 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,920 So so a couple of things before before I get started here with this part of the presentation. 411 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:27,080 So DME's mission is to provide safe, reliable and electric power and excellent customer service. 412 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,480 That continues to be our mission statement, continues to be kind of what we're focused on. 413 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,640 And as I was thinking about this presentation last night, I was praying for us. 414 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,480 I remember a quote that was that was said by an admiral Nimitz after Iwo Jima. 415 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,800 He said, uncommon, uncommon valor was a common virtue. 416 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,960 And I can tell you that's been my experience at DME with the staff that we have. 417 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,720 And let me tell you that you have a wonderful staff, right? 418 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,040 Not taking away anything from the rest of the city. 419 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,280 We have fabulous staff all across the city. 420 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,520 I'm certainly just responsible for DME now. 421 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,640 And I tell you, the folks there are fantastic. 422 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:10,480 And when we talk about valor, you know, just going back to Winter Storm Uri and even even last year with Landon and Oakley, 423 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,560 many of our staff members left their families in the dark, right, to come here and serve our customers. 424 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:22,880 Right. And so certainly when I think of valor and I think of of our staff, that certainly rings true for me. 425 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,160 And certainly I can echo that for all our management team as well. 426 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,040 So DME, as we have up here, was founded back in 1905. 427 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:37,320 That's one hundred and seventeen years of DME providing local public power to to customers here in Denton. 428 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,400 And what's interesting is that, you know, that that actually happened thirty nine years before the city was even incorporated. 429 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:49,480 And so DME has actually existed well before the city ever came about its incorporation. 430 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,960 And then finally, DME, as most of you know, does have a defined service territory. 431 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,960 We do serve some small parts of Corinth. 432 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:04,720 And then we have some areas that are dual and triply certified where we actually do compete for developments. 433 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,880 And that's usually at the very beginning of the development process. 434 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,920 And so this is a map. 435 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,880 Everything in Teal is really our single certified territory. 436 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:25,280 Everything outside of that, that's in a different color, and I apologize, I'm a little color blind, is where we're competing mainly against Encore and also CoServe Electric. 437 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,800 And so so we so we try to get ahead of the curve there. 438 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:42,760 This year, the PAB approved and council also approved a new line extension policy where we're going to be treating some of these service areas a little bit differently so that we can be in a better position to to compete for those developments and those customers. 439 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:48,560 And just as a reminder, the vast majority of the Hunter and Coal Ranch development will be served by DME. 440 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,040 And we're able to we're able to negotiate that early on in the process. 441 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:58,280 And so that as you know, that development is is is is in the works. 442 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,080 One of the things that we're very proud of and something that we're that we're certainly focused on is safety. 443 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:10,040 We've made a lot of changes in safety. We have a whole new group of people under under Jeff Brown, who's our who's our manager over safety. 444 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:16,320 But this year we were awarded the safety award. If you remember, we brought that to you not too long ago. 445 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:25,880 That's a number one in the category of two hundred and fifty to a million worker hours that we're judged against with other utilities. 446 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:37,800 There's something that we're proud of. And one item that that I will mention to you, our long term goal in our budget is to designate or to allocate one percent of our overall budget to safety. 447 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,800 I think that that sends a really good message to our staff. Right. 448 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,560 One of the things that we tell our staff is we want to make sure that that we send them home just like they came. 449 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,960 And if we get send them home even better, we certainly try to do that as well. 450 01:00:48,960 --> 01:01:00,480 So thank you. So just speaking of metrics, one of the metrics, one of the main metrics that we that we track is the safety metric. 451 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,400 That's really an indication of how long does it take for us to restore power? 452 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:11,720 How long is a customer out of power? And as you can see on here, we're well below the national average. 453 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:18,040 Right. We have ticked up a little bit over twenty twenty, but certainly I think it's well it's something to be proud of. 454 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:26,320 And it's something that we're constantly commended by our customers on the performance of our staff and how quickly we get out there and respond to to outages. 455 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:34,760 And these and these are forced outages. These are not the rotating outages or the mandated outages by our system type outages that happen. 456 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:43,280 There's a failure and some equipment are lying down and we deploy our staffs pretty quickly to get those restored. 457 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:49,600 Comparison that we want to show you and certainly we'll be talking with you a little bit about about rates, the finance department will be doing that. 458 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:58,160 But where we are today compared to other MOUs is something that's that we present regularly every year. 459 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:03,160 So this is as of May of this year, we did this comparison. 460 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:13,200 Our current average residential rate, about one hundred twenty one thousand two hundred kilowatt usage is one hundred twenty four dollars and eighty cents is the average electric only rate. 461 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,720 I want to make that very clear. Our customers get a lot of different services build on their bill. 462 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:25,760 But this is just the electric portion. And where we compare, I think we're very competitive right right in the middle of the pack, but certainly itching to the left. 463 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:33,720 I think as as as the year budget, the budget year goes goes forward, you're going to be seeing many of these utilities increasing rates. 464 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:48,600 And so one of the things that I wanted to skip to really quick, if if if I could, we ran a comparison. 465 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:56,640 So we want to show you kind of these rates here, these are kind of the competitive rates that people are seeing out there that they're able to lock in. 466 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:04,520 And so a standard rate with no prepaid 12 months fixed price with one hundred and fifty dollar cancellation fee. 467 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:10,760 These are the rates that people are looking at, 17.9 cents, 18.1 cents, 18.1 cents. 468 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:16,040 These are these are the companies, the private companies that people are able to lock their rates into. 469 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,880 What's very interesting here is the energy only component, the energy cost component. 470 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:29,320 If you can see that 13.7 cents, right, that compares to a three cent ECA that we're charging our customers currently. 471 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:37,720 Which is why they give you a context. And certainly the market, certainly the price of natural gas is certainly driving this out in the private sector. 472 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:43,960 Certainly we're not immune to it. The other thing to this having an impact here is passed through charges related to winter storm Uri. 473 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:52,400 And as you know, certainly over the last year and part of our recommendation this year is to try to get one more year kind of under our belts to try to absorb that. 474 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:59,040 I think we've been fortunate to do that and not being able to not having to pass that forward to our customers at this point, certainly. 475 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:07,360 And we'll talk a little bit about the data center. I would imagine somebody may have a question that's also part of the reason why we've not had to pass that forward at this point. 476 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:18,320 But I wanted to show you this and just give you some context as it relates to our current rate, overall residential rate, you know, right under ten and a half cents, so. 477 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,800 Go ahead, Mr. Taylor. 478 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:33,840 I'm not sure if now's the time to ask it or if it'll be later, but regarding the ECA, how like how how comparable is the ECA to the energy only rate? 479 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:46,320 The energy only portion of these as far as like DME's budget versus the transmission distribution and full energy delivery. 480 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,880 And I don't know if you're going to have anything talking about ECA in the presentation, it might be better to bring it up then. 481 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,920 Yeah, I think I think the discussion about ECA just kind of look at my finance friends here. 482 01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:00,640 I think I think that that's going to come back to you when we start talking about the rates and how we how we have those structured. 483 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:08,600 And we can certainly take a look and see if there's a way for us to give you that kind of comparison so we can kind of try to size up what are three cents. 484 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,920 How does that weigh against something somebody is charging 13 cents? 485 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,280 We can certainly try to do that. Yeah. 486 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:25,600 So just headed back to the presentation. 487 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:34,040 So so the other the other comparison that we do is, as you know, DME achieved 100 percent renewable. 488 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,440 It's a 100 percent renewable goal in twenty one. 489 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:44,720 And so we try to give a comparison of what would somebody out in the market get currently on 100 percent renewable type pricing structure. 490 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:51,320 And we're certainly way on the left side of that certainly far less expensive. 491 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,360 The average that you see up here is two hundred twenty five dollars and 83 cents per month. 492 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:03,160 Ours is at one twenty four. It's an all in all in rate, as you know. 493 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:09,560 So the next item, just briefly on our organizational chart, you know, pretty, pretty linear. 494 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,240 One of the things that I wanted to say is so we've had this structure now for about a year and a half. 495 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:22,320 I can tell you, we've been very fortunate that many of our, you know, certainly our senior executive staff and our division managers are still here with us. 496 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:27,600 Right. You know, these folks were with us during winter storm URI and some of the challenges that we've had. 497 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,960 And some of these folks have actually been at DME for over 30 years. Right. 498 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,280 And so so we have a lot of stability. Our current turnover rate's about seven percent. 499 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,560 So I think we've done a pretty good job of retaining our staff. 500 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,640 But I will tell you, that's not without its challenges. 501 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:49,360 Certainly, we're seeing some pressures in the market, just like everybody is across the city and across, really, you know, the entire country and all the industries. 502 01:06:49,360 --> 01:07:02,000 I mean, the other thing that I'll mention is that that, you know, if if in fact, you know, we make some recommendations on adding 11 FTEs, if those are added, you know, we are committed to looking at this structure a little bit closer. 503 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:10,760 So we may make some adjustments just kind of on our business needs and certainly being sensitive to the span of control that some of our some of our some of our staff has. 504 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,000 We don't we want to make sure that we have a good work-life balance with our staff. 505 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:20,440 And so we'll be looking at the structure, you know, if if if those positions are approved. 506 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:26,640 So this is our FTE counts. One of the one year that's not on here is fiscal year 1920. 507 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:39,680 Just wanted to point out that in fiscal year 1920, we had one hundred eighty nine FTEs that were budgeted at the utility through the VSP program and through some other cost reduction efforts that we had some reorganization. 508 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,480 We were able to eliminate 20 FTEs. And so we got to one hundred and sixty nine last year. 509 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:50,120 We did add four new FTEs to the budget and this year we're requesting 11. 510 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,360 So that'd be a total of 15 FTEs that we'd be adding back to DME. 511 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,480 But again, from an all time high of one hundred eighty nine. 512 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:04,000 So we would still be five short, if you will, to get us back to to what we consider full strength. 513 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:13,160 But I think we've made a commitment both to the council and to the community that we're going to strategically look at those positions and add them on as we feel we need them. 514 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,640 And so so that's where we are currently. Just want to give you that flavor. 515 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,920 And certainly, I think there'll be a discussion after this on the actual positions. 516 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,480 And certainly, if you have any questions, we have our staff here to be able to address any of that. 517 01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:34,720 I remember out of the internal audit that there was a recommendation to add to staff and is that what's in regulatory risk is adding those staff? 518 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,400 Well, there was actually a recommendation to add three staff, three staff people. 519 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,160 And so of the 11, three of those are directly related to that internal audit recommendation. 520 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:48,120 Yes, ma'am. Thank you. So with that, that that concludes our operational presentation. 521 01:08:48,120 --> 01:09:01,080 I'll turn it over to Nick. Thank you, Tony. OK, so financial assumptions very similar to the other utilities. 522 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:07,000 Just want to summarize them really quick for you. So we have an average load growth of two percent for twenty twenty three. 523 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,920 Of course, we look at that annually for this utility. 524 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:15,320 We are looking to increase the data center revenues with the associated higher forward energy process. 525 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:21,720 And we'll look at that shortly. And then the end of your estimate for purchase power reflects significant increases. 526 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,000 We will talk about this shortly. You'll see it on the performer. 527 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,960 Energy prices have definitely increased with electric utility such that we may have to bring a budget amendment back this fiscal year. 528 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:37,640 So I just wanted to put that in the process out there. Some basic revenue definitions for the electric utility. 529 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,480 I won't read these word for word, but definitely go through them really quick with you. 530 01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:49,400 The first one is the non-deck based rate revenue. You can see ECA revenues and Mr. Taylor asked the question earlier regarding those revenues. 531 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:56,240 We got non-rate revenues, data center revenues, and then deck revenues, of course, and then the planned use of reserves. 532 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:02,280 And we'll talk about these on the performer here shortly. 533 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:09,920 So revenues for the electric utility. We'll go through these really quickly, try to take my time and go through them if you have any questions just ask me. 534 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:15,840 So in twenty twenty two, the current budget that we're in, we have two hundred forty five point seven million in revenue. 535 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:21,360 We are forecasting to come in about three hundred eight point five million for the end of your estimate. 536 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:34,760 Plummon area, about four hundred and fifteen million. We are looking to use some reserves and you'll see this on the performer here shortly. 537 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:43,000 Yeah, so the deck definitely could change day to day on the deck with energy prices and we can run that facility and Tony can talk to it a little bit more. 538 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,360 Chris is here also. But in twenty twenty two, right, we had a budget of twenty one point two million. 539 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:53,200 We are forecasting the deck to come in at fifty seven point three million, right, because energy prices are increasing. 540 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,200 The deck is running more. Mr. Cheek, to your point, could it be more? It definitely could. 541 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:02,000 Could it be less? It could be a little less, too. Yeah. Yes, sir. 542 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:17,680 I was curious of that big increase in the deck revenue and also the data set of revenue is obviously ramping up so that in twenty two, twenty three, it's going to be a pretty significant contributor. 543 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:23,640 So to what do we attribute the growth in both of those? I think you were just addressing the deck. 544 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:32,360 Yeah, and the data center definitely can take a stab at it and Tony can correct me or interrupt me if it's. Oh, Terry's here. I didn't see Terry's center there. 545 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,400 Terry will answer that question. Hang on a second. 546 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:49,840 Good morning, Terry Nolte, Assistant GM. So two things drive both the deck revenues and and the data center, and those are forward prices. 547 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,360 So gas prices, natural gas prices, which is the fuel. 548 01:11:53,360 --> 01:12:00,640 We use at the Denton Energy Center are up from this time last year was about three dollars and fifty cents today. 549 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:06,880 They're trading close to eight dollars, so that's over two hundred percent increase in costs. 550 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:16,840 Obviously, we don't run the deck unless we can make a gross margin against our variable fuel costs and variable operating costs. 551 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:25,600 And so due to the changes in ERCOT after winter storm, you're a much more conservative approach. 552 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:33,240 We are seeing more dispatch hours, even with that higher gas price, and that's what's attributing the higher revenues. 553 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:39,200 So revenues are going up. Gross margins are pretty much online with what we had in the budget. 554 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:54,400 So while revenues are an indicator of the amount of the cost of running the unit, we really track gross margin because gross margin is what if we aren't making gross margin, we can't cover fixed costs, the debt primarily. 555 01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:10,680 So with respect to the data center, Ford prices for electric prices are also up significantly because in ERCOT, the price of Ford power is really dependent upon the price of gas, natural gas. 556 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:19,920 So with that large increase in natural gas price, Ford electric prices have come up accordingly. 557 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:31,720 The structure of the transaction that we have with the data center takes that risk away from DME and our ratepayers and passes that higher electric cost risk onto them. 558 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,080 And that's why you're seeing a larger increase than what we had originally budgeted. 559 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:40,160 Right. Is that rapid? Yes, it's the increase in the Ford prices. 560 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:56,560 OK, thank you. So to continue that, the margins on data center and the deck, are they fuel cost is up, Ford purchase energy cost is up, but those are all just passed through basically. 561 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:03,840 So are the net, is the net level or is the net increasing as well? 562 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:21,520 So on the deck for the Denton Energy Center, relatively on budget, on gross margin basis for the for the data center above budget and primarily that we say above budget. 563 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:32,160 You know, there is a the the franchise fee, the ROI that we pay to the city is a function of the actual price of electricity. 564 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:39,120 So as the price of electricity goes up, those franchise and rent and ROI fees will go up as well. 565 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:46,880 The net income to DME associated with the data center is fairly constant. 566 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:57,000 So that's probably not going to change, even if we see prices go up in the wholesale market. 567 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:17,360 The General Fund receives the benefit of those higher numbers. Correct. And, you know, I just say, you know, there is the rate pressure that Nick will talk about is really do the fact that we don't 100 percent supply all of our energy from the deck or from our renewables. 568 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:33,480 And so when we're in the market buying power, we're paying wholesale market prices, which are up relative to where we had the budget at this time last year. 569 01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,520 Thank you, Terry. All right. Let me revenues. 570 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,520 Anybody else got questions on revenues or is OK. 571 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:47,320 We'll go to expenses. So for the current fiscal year, you can see here we have two hundred and forty point seven million in expenses. 572 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,640 We are forecast about two hundred ninety one point, well, two. 573 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:57,480 So as I said, we may be coming back with a budget amendment is very likely here pretty soon to offset those purchase power expenses. 574 01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,960 So be looking forward to that. Definitely will probably come forward to you for the end of the fiscal year. 575 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:07,960 In twenty twenty three, we have four hundred fifteen million in expenses. Tony had hit on this a little bit earlier. 576 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:21,440 We'll talk about a little bit more shortly. We do have some baseline adjustments, about one point three million and some supplemental packages, about two point one. 577 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:26,560 So this is the five year forecast. I'm very proud to say we have a ten year forecast for electric now. 578 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,520 This is actually our first year to have a ten year forecast for this utility. 579 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,480 So we're showing you a five year picture here, but be consistent across the utilities. 580 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:42,240 We do plan on a ten year window. So the adopted column here, we already looked at these numbers, won't go through them line by line, but walk you through the totals. 581 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:50,640 Two hundred forty five point seven million in revenue in the adopted budget, about two hundred forty point seven million in expenses into your estimate. 582 01:16:50,640 --> 01:17:04,560 Of course, revenues are three hundred and eight point five with those expenses, about two hundred or two hundred ninety one point one preliminary budget in this column, you can see three hundred and ninety nine point nine million in revenue. 583 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:14,600 The majority that we talked about earlier, about one hundred and forty eight point five million is coming from that data center to offset those purchase power expenses associated with it. 584 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:23,160 Coming down to the expenses here, you can see four hundred and fifteen million. And I will note the majority of the increase in expenses is associated with that data center. 585 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:32,560 We had called the data center out separate from this, what I prefer to as a city didn't purchase power, non data center, the non data center purchase powers up here right here. 586 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:41,800 Seventy point one. You can see some deck fuel, of course, that natural gas that Terry was talking about earlier and then that purchase power for the data center. 587 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:50,960 This pro forma does assume that the return on investment to the general fund stays at six percent that will be discussed to city council here in the coming weeks as we start the budget discussions. 588 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:59,880 So I want to make sure I pointed that out. As you move down the pro forma here, you can see we have reserve usage of fifteen point two to balance the budget. 589 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:05,040 We are not looking to do rate increases in the preliminary budget of twenty twenty three. 590 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:12,160 I mean, you can see that ECA rate that Terry had talked about earlier, so point zero three four one similar to wastewater. 591 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:17,080 We are forecasting some increases in this utility based on energy prices and what we're seeing in the market. 592 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:24,160 So that rate, you know, that rate base and the burden that's putting on the rate base, that energy prices that we're seeing. 593 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:29,960 So in twenty twenty four, you can see we're currently forecasting for the average residential customer. 594 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:35,480 They would see a five percent increase in their bill. So this is coming up in twenty twenty four. 595 01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:39,480 Twenty twenty five, we also have a five percent. Twenty twenty six, we have a two percent. 596 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:44,040 And then twenty twenty seven, we don't have anything. This is important. 597 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:48,920 You know, we will talk about this in twenty twenty four again. We come back to you at the preliminary budget. 598 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,640 If the energy market changes and we don't need this increase, of course, we can talk about that at that time. 599 01:18:54,640 --> 01:19:03,400 One thing we do to Mr. Jump or Mr. Taylor's point earlier about the ECA rate, we are assuming that the ECA rate would fluctuate going forward. 600 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:10,400 This pro forma assumes that we would have the conversation with PB and city council to talk about that rate and the need for it to adjust. 601 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,360 But we do deem it necessary. We do need to talk to you in detail about that. 602 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:19,920 July 11th, we can have that conversation and then we can ask every question that you have regarding that. 603 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:27,040 Moving down the pro forma just a little bit here, you can see the end and reserve target of one hundred and twenty one point eight is what's currently in the reserve. 604 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,160 A reserve target is one twenty five to one hundred eighty eight. 605 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:41,040 You may remember last year as a result of winter storm Uri, we did increase the reserve target for electric, actually increase those percentages to the minimum of forty six with a maximum of sixty nine. 606 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:46,560 Prior to that, the reserve targets were closer to forty to fifty million, so about double what it used to be. 607 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,920 Then going out in the future years, you can see where we fall within that reserve target. 608 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:56,960 So in twenty twenty seven, we end at one twenty two point three with the reserve being one sixteen point seven is the minimum. 609 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,640 So definitely within that reserve target. 610 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:06,040 And then, Barbara, I know you'd asked our Susan, excuse me, Susan, I know you asked earlier about the debt coverage ratio for this utility is one point five. 611 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:18,040 OK, yeah. Anybody have questions on the pro forma? I know it's a lot of numbers here. Yes, sir. 612 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:29,400 So I'm trying to go back to slide, actually on the expenses slide, the administrative cost has increased about twelve million and I was trying to. 613 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:39,720 That's a bucket. So it's and I'm trying to figure out where that where that goes like on the pro forma or. 614 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:45,000 Does that also include energy trading costs? 615 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:52,960 So the administrative costs that you see here on this slide, it rolls up those transfers to the general funds. 616 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,400 We talk about the franchise fees and return on investments, they roll up into the administrative cost. 617 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:04,680 OK, thank you. Yeah, they're broken out of this slide. 618 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:12,480 OK, I'll keep going along here. So this is the deck pro forma we wanted for transparency purposes, break this out and show this to you separate. 619 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,480 This is buried in the forecast that you just saw. 620 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:19,600 So when you see the deck revenue and expenses, but this is a look at just the deck. 621 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:26,200 So you can see some history here going back to seventeen eighteen all the way to the preliminary budget of twenty twenty three. 622 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:34,440 We are currently forecasting at fifty two point five million in revenue this upcoming fiscal year at sixty point four million in expenses. 623 01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:38,520 So about seven point nine million deficit for the deck. 624 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:44,760 So I wanted to point this out to everybody. 625 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,640 The capital plan will definitely get into this in more detail in the next presentation. 626 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,640 We have a very long presentation for you to discuss it, but at a real high level here, 627 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:58,360 you can see they have eighty one point seven million in capital projects planned in twenty twenty three of that. 628 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,480 About seventy four point nine million are going to be debt funded. 629 01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:11,680 One point one million to be revenue funded and about four point four million in aid in construction or those contributions for those different developments or textile. 630 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,200 Capital plan, just a little bit different view of it. 631 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:20,200 So you can see how they fit into the different categories, what makes up the fifty three point five million. 632 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:25,840 So you can see the largest categories being the distribution substations, the feeders and extensions. 633 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:34,320 You get down here, you got some technology and then you have some electric relocations and so forth. 634 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:41,240 So capital plan. So this is just forty three point eight million of the projects that make up the eighty one point seven million. 635 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,040 That said, we'll get into greater detail of this in the next presentation. 636 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:49,520 And Tony and Terry and then we're happy to answer if you got questions, but you can see some of the big projects. 637 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,120 We have the Hickory, G.I.S. substation of twelve point five million in twenty twenty three. 638 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,680 Next biggest one here, we have some textile relocations of five million. 639 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:07,640 Then we have the Hickory and Locust transmission line for the four point four million. 640 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:13,680 OK, so Nick, I just want to say, you know, if the board has any questions, those projects, Jerry Fielder, our head engineers here. 641 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:25,960 So feel free if you have any questions on any of these projects. All right. 642 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,680 If I'm going too slow, just tell me to speed up. 643 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,040 OK, so baseline adjustments, I'll walk you through these. 644 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:37,600 If you got questions, I'll definitely get Tony or one of the staff members up here to answer it for you. 645 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,000 But we currently have I'll show you the total really quick and I can flip back to the side. 646 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,680 So I have one point three million in baseline adjustments. 647 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:49,600 Those baseline adjustments are adjustments to existing line items within the budget. 648 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,480 They usually do not include new programs or new initiatives that the department wants to do or new positions. 649 01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:58,960 But we do ask that the department break these out for transparency purposes. 650 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,840 So if you have any questions, of course, we can answer them. 651 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,440 But you can see we have, you know, some regulatory fees. 652 01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:12,080 We have TMD contracts for metering, some increases in those contract costs, so forth. 653 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,680 Some training increases, upcoming legal matters of two hundred and fifty thousand. 654 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,640 And then we have some outside contract treatment services for five hundred. 655 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:24,640 So the one point three that I mentioned earlier. 656 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,560 Supplemental packages, I know Tony had mentioned these positions earlier, 657 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:33,000 but this is a summary of the positions that are being considered this year for approval. 658 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,800 You can see them position title listed on your left hand side. 659 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:43,200 You can see any one time costs associated with the position, what the reoccurring cost is, and then what the total is. 660 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,240 And I think last meeting, we should have spelled this out here. 661 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,160 What does FT stand for this full time equivalent? 662 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,760 So just make sure everybody is aware of that. 663 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:57,280 And Nick, sorry, just to answer Susan's question, Susan, 664 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:05,520 the ERCOT settlements rates administrator, credit analyst and the energy market analyst are the three that were recommended through the internal audit. 665 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,600 Thank you. Yes, ma'am. 666 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,240 And then we have some additional positions on here. 667 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:19,200 You can see just the engineering supervisor, regulatory affairs manager and administrative assistant, so forth, going on the page. 668 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:28,520 About two million in supplemental packages. These are included in the financials that you just saw. 669 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:34,600 And then next steps won't repeat this for you, but we'll come back to you two times in July for further discussions. 670 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,960 If you have questions, we'll be happy to answer them. 671 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,480 And then that is the rest of this presentation. 672 01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:50,080 Questions. You must have done a great job. You do have one. 673 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:55,920 Whenever we when we come back for the rate conversation, I was curious if we could. 674 01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:14,960 Is it possible to see the performance of our renewable purchases versus the general wholesale market? 675 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:23,000 Yeah, we could do that. As you know, much of the information is confidential, so we don't have to place a closed session discussion with you, but we could probably do that. 676 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:29,880 We'll we'll talk with with legal and get some direction on that, sir. 677 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:36,120 Yes, go ahead, Mr. Beck. I guess it's as good as time as any, since we're under the electrical banner here. 678 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:43,400 Just any progress on our search for a gas well inspector? 679 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,120 Yeah, that's actually in the environmental services budget. 680 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:55,120 That's not part of our budget. OK, sir. Quickly. Yeah, I didn't mean to bog us down. 681 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,760 No worries. So that position actually reports of their sustainability. 682 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:04,400 Michael Gagne is the director. They do anticipate having that position open and recruiting for it in the next week. 683 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:19,920 OK, and then this is electrical. Any plans or thoughts on the city installing electrical stations for EVs? 684 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,760 Yes, as a matter of fact, we've applied for a couple of grants. 685 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:32,440 We are currently working on installing two, I think it's a total of four charging stations at the Development Services Center over here off of Elm. 686 01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:37,600 So we're working through that process now. And so certainly we're taking a look at that. 687 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:47,360 The other thing, too, that we're looking at is, as you know, the state has a plan out there to have charging stations every 50 miles off of major interstates and highways. 688 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,560 And so we're certainly going to be looking at that, those opportunities. 689 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:56,360 Certainly, if we can use other people's money, we certainly want to be able to do that first to be able to defer any any of those costs. 690 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,920 But but we are looking at that, you know, Mr. Beck. 691 01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:11,120 And so all you pretty much have right now in the future, anyway, is the four at a certain location, nothing, nothing, nothing distributed around the city. 692 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,080 Well, again, we're looking at those at the Development Services Center. 693 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:19,440 We're looking at two at the Civic Center, kind of keeping it kind of here in the downtown area. 694 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:25,320 As you know, some establishments, private establishments are deciding to install their own. 695 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:31,480 So you have you start to see some at hotels, certainly over at at at Razor Ranch. 696 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:35,440 You see some there as well. So so there's certainly a growing interest. 697 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:43,280 I think I think many of our private sector partners kind of see those as opportunities for their own customers to be able to attract customers. 698 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,120 And so we're certainly working with them to install those. 699 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:52,400 Those either tend to be at a at a direct charge to the customer or they provide it for free to their customers. 700 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,920 And obviously, then we charge them for the electric use separately. 701 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,720 So great. Thank you. 702 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:14,560 Morning, Mr. Beck. So Chris Ludwig, executive manager of operations, a prior project that DME has completed about two years ago, the North Lakes Library at the North Lakes Park. 703 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:20,240 There are there are four charges or two charges there, two dual charges there and the same at the South Lakes. 704 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:27,200 So those those were put in by DME two years ago using some some grant money. 705 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:36,000 Yes, sir. OK, Susan, we are ready for the next presentation. 706 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,160 To be capital. Yep, capital is here. 707 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,080 So in your backup, you should have had a detailed capital budget. 708 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,800 Just want to take a second to recognize staff. 709 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:51,560 It was a great effort that Danielle and I know Matt sent up there to work together to put that together this year with the department. 710 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,520 So first year, we've had this document. 711 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,160 We are extremely proud of it and we hope you are, too. 712 01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:03,160 So we'll walk through it really quick with you. 713 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:08,920 OK, so we'll talk about the development process, what all work went into putting the capital budget together. 714 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,080 We'll talk about the preliminary five year forecast for each of the utilities. 715 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:20,640 I know we've touched on these a little bit already, and then we'll talk about some upcoming dates for the capital budget. 716 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:27,320 So all the way back in December, which doesn't feel very long ago, we actually kicked off the budget process. 717 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:33,960 We began meeting with departments to review the process process in January. 718 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:42,760 And then you can see going through all the way down to currently where we're at right now, about the June, July time period, we're starting those workshops at the PB and City Council. 719 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:50,200 I think one thing is important to note is that this is a comprehensive budget development process for the capital plan. 720 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,160 It looks across the city and all departments. 721 01:30:52,160 --> 01:31:00,280 So it's not just looking at utility projects, it's looking at streets, engineering, drainage, any department, the city parks, library. 722 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:07,240 What makes sense, what's consistent across the utilities, what's consistent across the city, and we're not duplicating efforts. 723 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:13,720 So we don't want to tear up a street and not look at the water waste water line. 724 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,640 So the preliminary budget, why develop a budget book? 725 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,120 Before, we didn't have anything, right? 726 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,880 It was buried in each utilities budget and it was part of the adopted budget. 727 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:31,960 It wasn't very comprehensive, but we need something to refer to moving forward to hold staff accountable and really communicate with the public what's going on in the community. 728 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:42,480 So the 2022 adopted capital budget totaled 672 million dollars, which is a large amount of projects right across 19 functional areas. 729 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:49,400 The book references resources for staff and the public, like I mentioned, just they can refer to it any time during the year. 730 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,320 It is an ongoing development process, so we're still working on this book today. 731 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,080 What you have is a great document. 732 01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:07,080 It is definitely close to being complete, but like I said, as we continue having meetings internally, up until budget adoption, that book may change a little bit and we can update you accordingly as that happens. 733 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,560 So I just wanted to point that out. 734 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,080 So we'll go into a summary. 735 01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:17,440 So real high level, this pulls together all the utilities into one summary sheet. 736 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:21,360 It makes it a little bit easier to visualize it than it does on an individual budget basis. 737 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:33,040 So in 2023, the electric utility, as we just saw, has 81.7 million in projects, water has 54, wastewater has 68.3, and then solid waste has 23.2. 738 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:40,120 So utility system wide, about 227.3 million in projects coming up in 2023. 739 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:45,120 If you look at the five year picture, what is that total over five years, about 750 million. 740 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:52,000 So there is a large amount of projects in the utility slated to be construction over the next five year period. 741 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:59,200 And if you want to reference this, this is page two of your book if you're looking on your smart device. 742 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:04,320 So the electric utility, as we had mentioned, 81.72 million in projects. 743 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:11,880 We are projecting a 2023 CO, so certificate of obligation debt issuance of 74.9 million. 744 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,720 We are anticipating 1.15 of this to be transferred from the operating fund. 745 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,600 So trying to revenue fund some of those projects from the operating budget. 746 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,800 Then we have 4.4 million in cost participation. 747 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:29,200 And then what we're going to do on the next couple of slides is just highlight some of the large projects we want to talk to you about, bring to your attention. 748 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:35,320 If you have questions, like Tony had said, Jerry's here, Mr. Filder would be happy to come up here and answer or Tony will too. 749 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,960 So the first one is a building construction. 750 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,120 So we are looking to build a backup data center. 751 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:44,160 This is the land purchase and design funding. This will be about two million dollars. 752 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:50,800 The next one is the distribution substations, about 10.8 million in distribution substations plan this year coming up. 753 01:33:50,800 --> 01:34:00,000 So there's three of them, the Hickory substation, Underwood and Arco substation. 754 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:07,160 I mean, if I'm moving too fast to these next one, about 12.6 million in feeders and extensions and improvements. 755 01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:12,760 You can see pole change outs, the UNT Express feeder from Locus substation. 756 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,320 And then we have new residential and commercial, about five million. 757 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:22,280 And then you can see the data center, excuse me, the deck as a Denton Energy Center winterization. 758 01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,080 This is from Winter Storm URI. 759 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,320 Some of the recommendations we had of what we need to winterize at that facility. 760 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:33,160 And then you can see automated meter reading about one point one million. 761 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:40,680 And then we have some electrification locations, about six point five million. 762 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,840 And in your book, I mean, there's detail on each one of these projects that breaks it down. 763 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:49,320 So feel free to look at it to transmission lines, about 10.9 million in transmission lines. 764 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:53,720 You can see some of the major ones being on Hickory transmission substations. 765 01:34:53,720 --> 01:35:00,520 You can see the Hickory gas and still insulated substation 17.3 is a major project coming up. 766 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,880 We have some technology software and hardware, about five point six. 767 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:09,960 And then street lighting is discussed usually annually with City Council about increasing the number of street lights in the community. 768 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:16,360 So we do have some funding for that, about three million. 769 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,240 This is the electric summary one more time. 770 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,080 So eighty one point seven million. 771 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,680 You can see how it breaks down here and how it will be funded coming up in 2023. 772 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:28,440 Get my mouse to work here. So debt funded the 74 revenue funding. 773 01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:34,560 If you were to look at the operating pro forma that we reviewed last presentation, you would see this revenue funding called out. 774 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:43,280 Some cost participation and some vehicle replacement coming from our vehicle replacement fund, about one point two million. 775 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,080 Now we get into water. Does anybody have questions on electric? 776 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,640 I don't want to move too far in the presentation. 777 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:54,440 I don't see any. OK. 778 01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:59,880 So water has about fifty four point zero three million projects is coming fiscal year. 779 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:08,160 We are forecasting about thirty one point seven million to be certificate obligation funded about twelve point three million coming from the operating budget. 780 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:14,600 So being revenue funded and about six point two being this cost participation projects that we discussed. 781 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,760 You can see some of the major projects we call out here for you. 782 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:25,840 The water line replacement, about twenty one point nine million. This you can see is supporting the twenty nineteen neighborhood road package. 783 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:32,920 We have some line relocations and we have some lead copper rule compliance and regular remediation that we have accounted for. 784 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,280 Transmission lines about twelve point five million. 785 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,520 You can see us in Northwest transmission lines and booster pump station. 786 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,560 Yes, sir. Mr. Ryback, the water line replacement. 787 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,720 What percentage of the replacement is the rural compliance remediation? 788 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,920 Small percentage, large percentage. I believe it is a small percentage. 789 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,240 I don't see Stephen here. I want to say it's it's a minimum. 790 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,200 I want to say three three hundred thousand of it's not very much. 791 01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,400 I don't we can get that. Yeah, it's very small percentage. 792 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:09,320 I don't have the exact amount. It's very small percentage. Absolutely. 793 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:22,400 So plan improvements. This is something that's discussed to the public utility board and city council almost annually. Right. As we look at the demand in the city and where we need to make improvements and making improvements to our water treatment capacity and what we can treat, how much water we can treat. 794 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,160 So about fourteen point seven million going towards those efforts in twenty twenty three. 795 01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,600 You can see some of those projects caught out here just below it. 796 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:37,920 Annual field service replacement. So when you see this, this is replacing existing water lines that are in the community that need to be replaced. 797 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,840 We revenue fund those typically just because they've already been debt funded once. 798 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,920 There are some instances where we debt fund them, but I think we're revenue fund on this coming fiscal year. 799 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,600 So great news. Then you see taps, hydrants and meters. 800 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,720 One point two million. I know, Mr. Taylor, earlier we talked about the growth we're seeing in the community. 801 01:37:53,720 --> 01:38:01,480 This is to buy some of those new hydrants and meters and taps for those different facilities. 802 01:38:01,480 --> 01:38:08,960 So the water total is fifty four million. As I said, the thirty one point six million in debt funding, revenue funding. 803 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:26,440 So coming from that operating budget, about twelve point two million in cost participation and scrolling on the Patriots and vehicle replacement, about three hundred fifty nine thousand total fifty four million for water. 804 01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:33,560 Hey, don't move into wastewater hands. Wastewater is sixty eight point three four million on the twenty twenty three CO issue. 805 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:42,560 It's about forty point nine of that, about four point eight three will be transferred from the operating budget and then twenty point six will come from cost participation. 806 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:50,440 So two projects on the wastewater side that we had talked about earlier, you can see the lift station improvements, about twenty five point seven million. 807 01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:57,280 Some big projects coming up, the Milam Creek is mentioned there, the wastewater line replacement at thirteen point five million. 808 01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,960 You can see a lot of this supports the twenty nineteen neighborhood road package. 809 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:06,960 So supporting those bond programs are approved by voters, making sure we're looking at the water and wastewater line within those streets. 810 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:11,200 And then you see the solids handling improvements. This project was named last year in the budget, too. 811 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:17,200 So looking to continue that effort to get that project completed. 812 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:22,400 And then wastewater sixty eight point three, forty point nine of that coming from debt funding. 813 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:33,280 Large portion that come from cost participation from those two different entities and then the revenue funding, about four point eight. 814 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,880 Don't move into solid waste. Solid waste. 815 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:45,480 So total capital program for twenty twenty three is twenty three point two four CO debt issues, about sixteen million this coming year. 816 01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:49,280 Three point five million of that been transferred from the operating budget. 817 01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:55,720 You can see we have some structural updates that I know Christina came up here earlier and talked to some salehouse improvements. 818 01:39:55,720 --> 01:40:01,040 We have some to the home chemical collections, our ACC facility to collect those chemicals. 819 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:05,000 You can see road and infrastructure around that facility and then building construction. 820 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:12,640 So we are looking to construct a fleet shop at Solid Waste this coming year to help with improving the repair of those vehicles. 821 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:17,080 And then cell construction reserve of one point five million, we talked about that earlier. 822 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:25,560 It's establishing that reserve to revenue fund the cell development in the future. 823 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:29,800 Solid waste totals of twenty three point two million in total projects. 824 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,520 Those are the numbers I just read out to you here. 825 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:42,560 A large portion coming from the vehicle replacement for those vehicle purchases this year coming up. 826 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:48,320 And then upcoming dates. So as I said, this actually the entire capital plan to be discussed with city council tomorrow. 827 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:54,000 Courage you to watch that. We'll also talk to council about it again during the budget workshop on August the 6th. 828 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:58,000 This year we actually have, I think, eight hours scheduled with them on all day Saturday, August the 6th. 829 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,640 So that'd be a fun filled day. 830 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:09,320 So please come out to that meeting and that's got to the presentation. 831 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,080 I think that's actually all the presentations for today. Yes, it is. 832 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:18,160 And I really like the budget book. Thank you. Very well done. Very well. 833 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:22,000 All right. Any questions? 834 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:25,000 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 835 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,400 OK, ten forty five.