1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,400 [BLANK_AUDIO] 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Okay, is everybody ready? 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,860 All right, we will go ahead and start the special call meeting of the Board of Ethics. 4 00:00:14,860 --> 00:00:17,920 It's by 30 May 9th, 2022. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:26,960 And the item for consideration is BOE 22-017. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,700 Ethics Complaint Number 22-001 filed on May 2nd, 7 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:39,900 2022 concerning Alleged Violations of Ethics Ordinance Section 2-273. 8 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:43,080 Madison has put together agenda information sheet. 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,060 I don't think I'll go through all of it. 10 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:49,840 But what we're doing today is finding whether this is an actionable claim, 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,280 meaning that the allegations or evidence contained in the complaint of true would 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,160 constitute a violation of the ethics ordinance, or whether it's baseless, 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,880 meaning the allegations and evidence contained in the complaint of true would 14 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,400 constitute a violation of the article. 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,560 So going to the ethics complaint, Scott Lewis Campbell has filed a complaint 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,320 about Paul Melter. 17 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:18,480 And I'll note that Paul Melter is not a council member as of, I guess, Tuesday. 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:24,880 But just going into the complaint, not even worrying about whether it's moot or not. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,960 But going into the complaint, Mr. 20 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:40,760 Campbell is saying that Paul Melter had improper influence using a flyer, 21 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,640 and that he violated the article by using city facilities, 22 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,920 personnel equipment, software, et cetera, for private purposes. 23 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:58,560 But then going to the flyer that he attached, it doesn't have anything about 24 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,440 the city secretary's seal that he's complaining about. 25 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,440 So I think my opinion is that it's baseless because there's nothing on here 26 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,680 that shows that, and even if there was a city seal on it, if it was like a public 27 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,160 document that had a city seal, it's not, anybody can pick that out and use it. 28 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:23,000 So I would find this is baseless, and I'll, whoever else wants to join in? 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 >> I'm finding it baseless, too. 30 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,840 He talked about improper influence. 31 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Am I supposed to be speaking into the mic? 32 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,680 >> No. >> Okay. 33 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,680 He's talking about improper influence, and then the wording he used was from 34 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:43,240 abuse of resources, which says that Melter would have used city facilities, 35 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,760 which he did not, personnel, which he did not, equipment, which he did not, 36 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,600 software, which he did not, supplies, which he did not, or staff time for 37 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,760 private purposes, so I find it to be baseless. 38 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,440 >> Can I add anything to add? 39 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,560 >> Yep, I agree, I found it baseless. 40 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,880 The piece of evidence that was attached did not include the notary seal, 41 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,680 which is clearly on page, I think, two of the document, and 42 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,120 I did not see it anywhere in the attached evidence, so I found it baseless as well. 43 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,440 >> Okay, let's see, do we need to have a motion to find it baseless, I guess? 44 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,280 We haven't done this, we have wanted to do this for a couple years. 45 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,320 So moved, I move to find this baseless, any second? 46 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,280 >> I'll second, yeah. 47 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,320 >> Any more discussion? 48 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,040 All right, I think our panel has- >> We need to call the vote. 49 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,560 >> Need to call the vote. 50 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,200 Call the vote, okay, it's kind of funny cuz we all obviously know what the vote is, 51 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,000 but okay, all in favor of finding the complaint baseless, say aye. 52 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,760 >> Aye. 53 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,800 >> All opposed, we all said aye, so we all agree. 54 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,080 So this has been found baseless, is there anything else? 55 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 >> Yes, I would like to talk about frivolity. 56 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,160 >> Okay. 57 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:09,080 >> I move that we consider that this is a frivolous request as per 58 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:26,840 the Code of Ethics, section 2-282-282 and item C. 59 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,920 >> Would you like me to bring up the ordinance? 60 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 >> Yeah, if you bring up the ordinance, the pagination's weird. 61 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,280 But on page 19 of the ordinance, if you add 3 to the, 62 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:50,400 it's actually probably 22 of the actual document because- 63 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,080 >> The next page? 64 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,360 >> Yes, well, the next page. 65 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:02,600 So under item three, there are factors that we need to look at in determining frivolity. 66 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:09,280 So if we look, we'll need to look at A, B, C, D, E, and F. 67 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:16,160 >> Okay, all right, so frivolous complaint is defined in the code as a sworn complaint 68 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,520 that is groundless and brought in bad faith for groundless and brought for the purpose of harassment. 69 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:34,440 And then we actually, well, I was wondering if I know, can we discuss that in this hearing? 70 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,320 >> You can recommend that a hearing be held to determine frivolity. 71 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,320 >> Okay. 72 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:48,240 >> So the factors are the timing, which I guess the timing is right before an election. 73 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,320 >> Five days. 74 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,080 >> What's that? 75 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 >> Five days before the election. 76 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,760 >> The nature and type of any publicity surrounding the filing of this sworn complaint, 77 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,400 and the degree of participation by the complaint in publicizing the fact that the complaint was filed. 78 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,520 I don't think we have any evidence of that. 79 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:12,400 >> Well, actually, B, the nature of publicity, there was a big article in the paper on April 21st about this. 80 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,760 >> Okay, I didn't see that, so. 81 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,920 >> Okay, I do. 82 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:25,000 >> And the mayor was quoted quite a bit in it, so I printed out the copy of the article. 83 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,440 But yes, there was some publicity. 84 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,120 And they were going to the AG's office, or the Secretary of State's office. 85 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,800 So yes, there was publicity. 86 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,720 >> The existence and nature of any relationship between the respondent complaint and the fourth complaint was filed. 87 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,240 I don't know of any, but if. 88 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:52,920 >> They were running against each other, and he was representing, he filed a complaint before. 89 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,840 >> Was it against Malter? 90 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:55,320 I don't remember. 91 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:02,600 >> Against Armin Thorpe, but it was kind of against, my point in calling this frivolous is that it's political. 92 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:10,080 And I think if we go down that path and we don't call it frivolous, we're going to open ourselves to a lot of other frivolity complaints. 93 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,760 And I think D kind of goes with C, and goes with what you just said. 94 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,240 >> As far as ENF, I don't know that we know what he was thinking. 95 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,080 >> Yeah, any evidence of complaint newer recently, and you should have known the allegations of the complaint when Brown was. 96 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,880 I mean, I don't know the, the attached document doesn't have what it says it has, which makes me kind of think like that. 97 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,240 And any evidence of the complaint's motives, which I guess we don't know the evidence of that yet. 98 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:45,600 But I guess, you know, you consider all the factors, but you don't have to find, you know. 99 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:51,960 As a lawyer, like when there's a factor test, it doesn't mean you necessarily have to find all of them, you know, you just kind of. 100 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,320 >> So we need to recommend that there be a hearing about frivolity? 101 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,840 >> Correct, and we need to make a motion to recommend. 102 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:05,000 >> That we send this to a panel to determine if this is frivolous or not. 103 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,000 >> It would be a full hearing, it would be a full, the full board would be, it would be like a normal hearing. 104 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 It would just be a pre-determined frivolity. 105 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,080 >> Okay, anybody want a second? 106 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,960 >> Any seconds? 107 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,880 >> I'll second that, yeah. 108 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 >> All right, any more discussion? 109 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,040 A vote that we recommend to the board to consider whether this is frivolous. 110 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,320 All in favor, please say aye. 111 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,480 >> Aye. 112 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,360 >> All opposed? 113 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:39,280 So we are going to recommend to, for the board to look at this for frivolity. 114 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Okay, I think, I think that's all we can really do here. 115 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:50,480 I think if there's nothing else, then I guess Madison will have to get together with a letter, 116 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:56,360 get together a letter for under the code about the outcome of this meeting. 117 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Technically it's a letter from you, but I can prepare it for you and have you review it. 118 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,760 That would be great. 119 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Thank you. 120 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Okay, and I think the meeting could be adjourned. 121 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,960 All right, thanks. 122 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,800 >> Thank you.